t and Ella
and Louis actually being played back to back with Rex Griffin, Ernest Tubb
and Red Foley on "country" stations, a programming choice that ended the
very next year?
I also think this would have been before the widespread notion of
one-format-based radio stations, which makes it all
At 01:27 AM 4/25/99 -0400, Jon wrote:
In between she
did a good slow, hard-country number that's not on either of her albums,
most likely titled "A Way To Survive"; anyone know where it comes from?
A Way To Survive is among my very favorite Ray Price hits, a Top 10 effort
from 196
al moments. But it's incredibly hard for me to watch, especially since
I know what he's lost, and what's coming. --david cantwell
At 09:36 PM 4/23/99 +0200, Tom wrote:
Of course. He single handedly made it all right not to know how to sing,
not to know how to play and still be a big star.
I have no comment. Just wanted to say how great it was to see a Tom Ekeberg
post! --david cantwell
and producer
Butch Vig take us through the album's recording and mixing, track by track.
You're right, btw, that Cobain's vocals were never pleasing. But they
weren't supposed to be. --david cantwell
ty. And, as to her singificance, would her
contemporary, Sweet Baby James, have played a more visible, more
broad-based role in spreading this kind of music to the wide world (both in
confessional songwriting and in OVERLY confessional songwriting)?
Plus, James apparently has got that whole Garth thing to answer for...
--david cantwell
(a master of disguise)
Now, this is an intriguing nomination, but it's the wrong category. Maybe
instead: Turd-Stirrer/Goat-Getter/Curry-Baiter/Midwest Basher of the Year?
--david cantwell
nfluential records were
produced by the Bomb Squad, not Dre.
Nuff said. I'm right, you're wrong. Na, na, na, nahhh.
But I nominated him FIRST. Na, na, na, nahhh yourownself g. --david cantwell
is hardly representative of the band's work this
decade--you could argue in fact that it works so well precisely because
it's the culmination of what they'd done well all through the 80s. --david
cantwell
,
of white women in favor of black women, of what's presented as
all-by-myself art vs.collaborative art. --david cantwell
At 09:22 AM 4/21/99 -0700, you wrote:
My favorite "shut up" line was from Henry Rollins of Black Flag:
"Lose the 'tude, dude."
A good shut up line, no doubt, but if reversed and shouted at Rollins
instead, it would make a more than appropriate heckle. --david cantwell
e "top ten most influential" candidates.
But I'm standing pat with my Satchmo/King then JB/Bing Top 4. --david cantwell
Dittos to all the Cobain support. But, though I'd need to think much harder
about it, my gut reaction tells me the artist of the decade might just have
to be...Dr. Dre. --david cantwell
Jackson? Bolden, and King Oliver
too, were certainly big influences on Louis but how many people in future
years cited Oliver or Bolden as influences? And how many named Armstrong?
--david cantwell
is appears on the MCA Bing box) and "Old Soldiers Never Die."
Live struff, of course, is another matter.
maybe this is right.... --david cantwell
PS: Bing recorded two sides, My Baby Said Yes and something else I forget,
with Louis Jordan and His Tympany Five in 1944.
At 02:07 PM 4/20/99 -0400, DP wrote:
Wondering when we're going to start debating the Artist of the
Millennium,
Solomon, for all those psalms. Or was that the last millenium
G --david cantwell
does just that on at
least two occasions. --david cantwell
any leads.
Buh, buh, buh bye! --david cantwell
Thanks Brad! I didn't know about the '36 Louis/Bing deal that Lance had
suggested was out there. I wonder if it's not from the film of that same
year (Pennies From Heaven), which starred both Bing and Louis. But then why
would it be listed as Frances Langford..? I dunno... --david cantwell
is the man. Satchmo was the foundation not just of modern jazz,
as you say, but of modern popular music.
And the edifice? I guess that'd have to be Elvis. --david cantwell
At 05:38 PM 4/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
It's hard to argue AGAINST Armstrong, but I think Charlie Parker put Louis'
massive
ince, been built upon these two
strategies, all the way from, uh, Sinatra and Elvis on up to Madonna and
Tupac. --david cantwell
(though the competition ain't much,
I'll admit). They have a website at exit159.com and a self-titled album on
Don't Touch Me Records. --david cantwell
At 05:30 PM 4/19/99 EDT, you wrote:
Just heard a song by Frogpond on bravenewworld.net and it was really
something special in a twangless, indie pop
don't know, but
those first four, man, no one can touch them. --david cantwell
Charlie
Rich. --david cantwell
At 11:46 AM 4/18/99 EDT, you wrote:
It was a song Mike Ireland said he'd learned from a 45 that included some
dumb interview in which the DJ credits the song to Charlie Rich. Anybody
know of it?
If that's the story he told, the I'd say it's definately Life Has It's
Little Ups And Downs (as
note one.
Like Linda, I wish barry's subject line was more prognostication than
historical desctription. --david cantwell
rock efforts.
Lisa Stansfield--Lisa Stansfield (Arista, 1998)--The best album yet from
one of the most amazing, powerful singers on the planet.
George Strait--Chill of An Early Fall (MCA, 1991)--One of the best country
albums, ever.
I could go on but...
--david cantwell
I addressed that last post to Carl Wilson, but it was Jacob London who
started things off, right? Ooops. Sorry. Great idea, Jacob. --dc
o Jermaine...man, it's all just incredible.
And the song? You know, it's pretty darn good, too. Not great, maybe, not
al by itself, but then with great singles, it's often the singer, or the
overall sound, in tandem with the song that takes everything to another
level. --david cantwell
PS: Great
To Give It Up
Public Enemy's Fight The Power
Afrika Bambaataa's Looking For the Perfect Beat
Steve Wonder's Signed, Sealed, Delivered
Frederick Knight's I've Been Lonely For So Long
The Four Tops' Bernadette
Jerry Butler's Only The Strong Survive
Wyclef Jean's Gone Till November
--david cantwell
those who would dismiss 70s pop out of
hand anyway. --david cantwell
At 09:32 PM 4/8/99 EDT, you wrote:
Hadacol - Tornado
Make that BIG Tornado by Hadacol, which reminds me of Porter Wagoner's Big
Wind. --david cantwell
That last post went to the wrong address. Sorry, ignore, blah blah blah. --dc
, but
on Sun's it's your dream station. Of course, even that changes as the hours
pass... --david cantwell
11:43 PM 4/7/99 -0400, you wrote:
I finally snagged that cable TV music service, where you get 31 different
musical genre selections. I wanted it mainly to have access to "classic
country.&qu
Can't say definitively which came out first, but as for debuting on the RB
chart, Tramp was first, entering the RB 100 on Jan 7th. Make A Little Love
entered April 1. They climbed, respectively, to #5 and #20 RB, #52 and #97
pop. --david cantwell
At 10:56 AM 4/7/99 EDT, you wrote:
does anyone
g forced
them to, uh, practice night after night. --david cantwell
time. She may have even recorded it that way
(is that true?). What I want to know though is, when she sang Montana
Plains, did she just change Texas to Montana or did she change any of
Hamblen's other words too???
Off list answers welcome if this is too boring... Thanks. --david cantwell
that, right? Alright
then... --david cantwell
At 11:37 AM 3/2/99 -0600, you wrote:
You lost me there, David. Country may be roots music, but not all roots
music is country. Why's her distinction silly?
You're right, Bob, about roots and country. But I was referring to the
distinction between REAL and unreal. --david cantwell
NP: Kelly
. The other is black gospel, which is great but Anthony
(?) Heilbut's The Gospel Sound pretty definitively covered that side of the
tradition already. We need a southern gospel book, before the tradition's
gone for good... --david cantwell
, then
they turn it over to some young guy or gal for half an hour who oversings
soulleslly, like a lot of contemporary christian
Also: Given what I like, Shane, do you think the annual national quartet
convention would let me down or lift me up? Is it worth checking out?
--david cantwell
;real" country) or simply "country that I
like" (which is no help at all, at least in regards to what's "real" or
not). --david cantwell
e
Big Book error by error. It was a very long review. --david cantwell
t the door! --david cantwell
Since I'm one of the lucky few who Jacob had shared this with, I can give
my estimation of the piece right now: one of best, smartest, most
insightful music pieces I've ever read. Period. --david cantwell
ourse, it's not like any of us could have listened to the record and
doubted their ELO jones for one second, but there it is...
Where do I sign up for the Jeff Lynne fan club again? I can't get down with
Discovery, but Face The Music, A New World Record, and Out Of the Blue?
Mmmm, mmm that's s
th Gillian Welch, Dan
isn't just strumming behind Mike here, he's a complete partner: Mike
Ireland AND Dan Mesh. Great stuff, I thought... --david cantwell
stripped naked. And if you liked those original settings,
here's your chance to experience the songs reimagined. --david cantwell
,
Dolly Carlisle. --david cantwell
number of artistic choices left to be decided --david cantwell
Speaking of those damn no good country pop singers, I was wondering if
anyone knows of a good Foley collection on disc. Thanks. --david cantwell
Hey Terry, no matter how far down I scrolled on your last post, I couldn't
find your usual PS. Did you forget? No one packs more into a PS than you
do, and they're usually the most interesting points made by anyone all day.
--david cantwell
PS: Mike Ireland finished tied for #241 on the Pazz
At 12:29 PM 2/23/99 -0500, Terry asked:
Isn't there a sound aesthetic
argument for arranging "gritty" songs in a "gritty" fashion, and giving
urbane lyricizing a glossier finish?
Sure there is. But there's also an aesthetic argument for providing a
contrast between gritty lyrics and "sweet"
and pretty
obviously, right.
Plus, let's face it: If you have 50 goddamn chances to
pick Anodyne and you come up with the goose-egg--get to the back of the bus,
ya chump!!
Well, I agree you gotta pick a Tupelo--and Anodyne's awfully damn good; I
won't argue against it--but I'd go with Still Feel
is sometimes a valid artistic choice.
ps ...I'm talking about artistic choices, not financial calculations.
Yeah, me too. g --david cantwell
* as country
music.
The kinda short answer: Most of the musicians, producers, songwriters, and
country fans who made and loved those records would, of course, disagree.
The very short answer: Puh-lease.
--david cantwell
PS: And, at any rate, I thought everybody here always said it was
*marketed
At 08:39 PM 2/12/99 -0500, JW wrote of the Sultan of Schlock:
I'll bet he's no Jim Reeves on the diamond.
Or Charley Pride neither. --dc
ry serious record collection should include,
filed right next to (at the very least) a J5 greatest hits set. --david
cantwell
in the last 20 years (Hotter Than July comes to
mind) but it's definatly not his A stuff.
Could we agree on this: one of the most influential, and best, artists of
the entire rock and soul era? for the entire century? But not the last 20
years. --david cantwell
"entire" and "resounding"
are too strong for what you are saying.
I mean the "entire" not to refer every single single ever put out, hardly,
but to mean every part of the American popular musical tradition. And
resounding, from where I sit, probably isn't strong enough.
e definately done so-- that this situation
created more inspiration in him, not less. He certainly didn't intend it as
a toss off, as even a casual listen to this lush and intricate double album
will attest. --david cantwell
At 01:12 PM 2/2/99 EST, Neil wrote:
I'm not sure I'd call it more mellow. I think the real difference is that the
guitars and twang are mostly removed in favor of pianos. If pianos = more
mellow, than so be it. There's still plenty pop, that's for sure.
I agree, mellow is hardly a word I'd use
At 03:13 AM 1/29/99 -0500, Tera wrote:
You guys are all the samesheesh! gActually, there probably wouldn't
have been a Motown without Stax or Chess.
I can see, I guess, how we might argue that Chess paved the way for Motown
in that it proved there was a crossover market for black artists
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Does anyone out there know the details of Johnny's recent murder
conviction? The little details that have been available via Blue Chip have
made it all sound very weird. If anyone knows of a way to get to local
newspaper accounts or anything at all, I would appreciate it very much.
--david
At 04:42 PM 1/20/99 EST, you wrote:
he hasn't been convicted. yet. he has been indicted, and was supposed to show
up for a court hearing yesterday. he's presently out on a $50,000 bond.
Yes, that's right, my very big mistake. If anyone hears anything else,
though, please pass it along. --david
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