Hi,
I have been looking around on the Inet to see if I could find anything about how I
secure qmail pop3 service, but I don't have a ??? and I don't find a ???..
I was wondering if anyone have some good ideas what to use or where I can find some
information about securing qmail pop3 etc.
qmail-pop3d is far secure..but using it with inet is not recommended...use
qmail-pop3d with tcpserver..check the FAQ regarding this...
regards
dushyanth
Hi,
I have been looking around on the Inet to see if I could find anything
about how I secure qmail pop3 service, but I don't have a ???
* Per-Fredrik Pollnow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010726 09:40]:
I have been looking around on the Inet to see if I could find anything
about how I secure qmail pop3 service, but I don't have a ??? and I don't
find a ???..
I was wondering if anyone have some good ideas what to use or where I can
find
Hi guys,
I've installed the mdk (Mandrake) qmail rpm package on my Mandrake 7.2 box.
I've got it set up so that it's dealing with local mail quite nicely, and now
i'm ready to use fetchmail, which is also installed, to download mail from a
pop server.
qmail is running. If i check the ps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
John Wolford wrote:
qmail is running.
Nope, not quite ...
If i check the ps listing, i see, in part:
[root@homer init.d]# ps -ef |grep qmail
root 29806 29805 1 Jun01 ?02:43:31 supervise qmail-pop3d
root 29808 29805 0 Jun01 ?00:00:00
David Talkington wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
John Wolford wrote:
qmail is running.
Nope, not quite ...
If i check the ps listing, i see, in part:
[root@homer init.d]# ps -ef |grep qmail
root 29806 29805 1 Jun01 ?02:43:31 supervise qmail-pop3d
root
Hello all.
I am niebie to qmail but untill now i am happy.
I have some questions :
I can connect POP3 to the unix users but i cannot receive any email.
When i open the unix-user i made his home directory to be :
/home/username.
Is this the correct one for qmail?If not which is?
Another thing
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Constantine Koulis wrote:
I can connect POP3 to the unix users but i cannot receive any email.
When i open the unix-user i made his home directory to be :
/home/username.
Is this the correct one for qmail?If not which is?
Yes it is. I think you should first tell us if
Hi,
I can connect POP3 to the unix users but i cannot receive any email.
When i open the unix-user i made his home directory to be :
/home/username.
Is this the correct one for qmail?If not which is?
this depends on your configuration, in most cases it is
hint: link /var/spool/mail/user +
]
Subject: Re: Newbie question-CJK
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:14:23 +0200
Hi,
I can connect POP3 to the unix users but i cannot receive any email.
When i open the unix-user i made his home directory to be :
/home/username.
Is this the correct one for qmail?If not which is?
this depends
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Constantine Koulis wrote:
Dear sir.
About local delivery i can send from root to local users but from local
users to root nothing.As well i can send from local users and root to
outside world.
Where is mail for your local users stored?
Do you check ~alias/ for root
Hi,
please mail an exploit of /var/log/qmail/current
and we'll see...
Tom
- Original Message -
From: Ian Truelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:38 AM
Subject: newbie question
I just installed qmail under RedHat 7.1
It passes all the internal
Ian Truelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It passes all the internal tests, but I am not able to get anything from
outside the local machine.
Okay. Lots of possible causes for that one.
All I get when I try to email my machine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
messages from the mail daemon where I
: Re: newbie question
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:16:59 +0200
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,
please mail an exploit of /var/log/qmail/current
and we'll see...
Tom
- Original Message -
From: Ian Truelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001
I just installed qmail under RedHat 7.1
It passes all the internal tests, but I am not able to get anything from
outside the local machine. I know I have not set something up properly, or
failed to set something up, but I can't figure out what it is that is wrong.
All I get when I try to
I am running qmail on:
RedHat 6.2
256 Mb Ram
I set concurrency remote = 150...
however, most of the time, it seems like only a handful of remote processes
are running, even though the queue backs up (right now, over 14000 msgs in
queue and only 20 remote processes running)...
Michael Geier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am running qmail on:
RedHat 6.2
256 Mb Ram
I set concurrency remote = 150...
however, most of the time, it seems like only a handful of remote processes
are running, even though the queue backs up (right now, over 14000 msgs in
queue and
Michael Geier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I set concurrency remote = 150...
however, most of the time, it seems like only a handful of remote processes
are running, even though the queue backs up (right now, over 14000 msgs in
queue and only 20 remote processes running)...
Most likely you
, 2001 12:30 PM
To: Qmail Mailing List
Subject: Re: newbie question with concurrency remote
Michael Geier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am running qmail on:
RedHat 6.2
256 Mb Ram
I set concurrency remote = 150...
however, most of the time, it seems like only a handful of remote
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 01:53:50PM -0500, John Hogan wrote:
yep, popper's running...
qmail is configured to ~/Mailbox, tests, performs local delivery and receipt
What popper? qmail-pop3d only does Maildir.
Greetz, Peter.
i was running just regular, old, linux distribution flavored popper... must i switch?
- hogan
At 09:17 PM 4/26/2001 +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 01:53:50PM -0500, John Hogan wrote:
yep, popper's running...
qmail is configured to ~/Mailbox, tests, performs local
thanks for the off-list advice...
i thought i'd let everyone know - building a sym-link from /var/spool/mail/username to
~(username)/Mailbox did the trick... popper must have been looking at the old
/var/spool i'll have to figure out a way to change popper and release those nasty
i have qmail all configured, tested and working in a local environment... when i send
a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the message is not downloaded by a third-party UA and is
only available at the command line (pine)
any ideas?
- hogan
Hi John,
Thursday, April 26, 2001, 7:16:38 PM, you wrote:
JH i have qmail all configured, tested and working in a local
JH environment... when i send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the
JH message is not downloaded by a third-party UA and is only
JH available at the command line (pine)
JH any
John Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i have qmail all configured, tested and working in a local environment...
when i send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the message is not downloaded by a
third-party UA and is only available at the command line (pine)
If NFS is involved, make sure that the
yep, popper's running...
qmail is configured to ~/Mailbox, tests, performs local delivery and receipt
new messages are received in Pine just fine, but not by a remote UA
- hogan
At 07:42 PM 4/26/2001 +0100, Barry Hill wrote:
Hi John,
Thursday, April 26, 2001, 7:16:38 PM, you wrote:
JH i
Well have you tried to start tcpserver anyway?
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Johnson, Garrett wrote:
Please forgive my ignorance. I'm trying to learn.
I have set up a secondary Qmail server on RedHat 7.0 and it
seems to have come up without a problem, but I'm having a
hair-pulling time trying to
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 12:19:57PM -0800, Johnson, Garrett wrote:
Why isn't tcpserver running (keeping in mind that it isn't passing any email
right now)? Something more disturbing is that when I run mconnect without
arguments I get:
tcpclient: unable to connect to 127.0.0.1 port 25:
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 12:19:57PM -0800, Johnson, Garrett wrote:
This is what I get from ps -ef | grep qmail:
root 503 502 0 Mar16 ?00:00:00 supervise qmail-send
root 505 502 1 Mar16 ?00:54:39 supervise qmail-smtpd
qmaill 507 504 0 Mar16 ?
Please forgive my ignorance. I'm trying to learn.
I have set up a secondary Qmail server on RedHat 7.0 and it
seems to have come up without a problem, but I'm having a
hair-pulling time trying to test if it works properly. It has
passed some basic tests. For instance I can use qmail-inject
At 03:37 PM 3/19/2001, Gerrit Pape wrote:
did you read life with qmail? read it at www.lifewithqmail.org. Use the
init script from there and you shouldn't have any problems. :-)
~kurth
PS - to the list - yes, i know this is what I answer for every
answer...however almost every question can
SFGH, Dean's Office, School of Medicine
-Original Message-
From: Chris Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:39 PM
To: Johnson, Garrett
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Qmail newbie question
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 12:19:57PM -0800, Johnson, Garrett wrote
My server is a UNIX box with BSDI 4.0, Apache, Qmail, and Frontpage. My
BSDI and QMail were set up by someone else (no longer with us) and I am
pretty much a newbie in this arena
A Frontpage client wants to publish a form to be received on my server
addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and relayed
Virginia Chism [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A Frontpage client wants to publish a form to be received on my server
addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and relayed (forwarded/redirected) to her
personal email address which is not on my server.
[...]
Now I have been told that I need to add
Roger Arnold wrote:
How do you make a users file using "qmail-pw2u" from your /etc/passwd
file ?
If I execute /var/qmail/qmail-pw2u with no extensions I would have
thought that it would have created an assignments file from /etc/passwd,
however all that happens is that it goes into never-never
Roger Arnold" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Qmail Users" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 5:01 AM
Subject: Newbie question
Roger Arnold wrote:
How do you make a users file using "qmail-pw2u" from your /etc/passwd
file ?
If I execute /var/qmail/qmail-pw2u w
Here is the thing: I DO NOT have a domain YET. SO in my
/etc/hosts file, I added swaru as my machine name. SInce I'm
not part of any network (it's a system at which is soon going
to be a web/mail server), I named my machine swaru (swami + guru :-).
I don't know anything about
Message-
From: Greg Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 6:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: newbie question. please recommend solution
Here is the thing: I DO NOT have a domain YET. SO in my
/etc/hosts file, I added swaru as my machine name. SInce I'm
I'm trying to make qmail under my solaris work.
I have solaris 2.8 running on Ultra-2.
Now here is scenario:
I got the q-mail smtpd working (not the way they say in the documentation -- but it
works).
Now I'm trying to set up virtual users. I want to use vmailmgr because of the web
interface +
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Charles Cazabon wrote:
CCThe mail transaction above is not an example of (unauthorized) relaying.
CCBy putting the domain in rcpthosts, you have told qmail-smtpd "I am willing
CCto accept mail from anyone which has an envelope recipient of
CC[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
CC
CCIf
Hello all.
Sorry for boring you, but i have this problem i cannot understand:
I configured qmail with tcpserver following the installation instructions
step by step.
At this point i have a tcpserver at the moment allowing
connections only from localhost.
Everything is working fine and i send and
Dario Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for boring you, but i have this problem i cannot understand:
At this point i have a tcpserver at the moment allowing
connections only from localhost.
You're preventing connections to port 25 completely?
Please post the contents of your smtp.rules
CCYou're preventing connections to port 25 completely?
CCPlease post the contents of your smtp.rules file to be more clear on exactly
CCwhat you are allowing/disallowing.
the rule is :
127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
CC
CC If i try to do relaying from a host that is not allowed i get the message:
CC
Dario Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CCYou're preventing connections to port 25 completely? CCPlease post the
CCcontents of your smtp.rules file to be more clear on exactly CCwhat you
CCare allowing/disallowing.
the rule is :
127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
Okay, you're not denying
Just a recommendation..
Book Title: "Pragmatics of Human Communication"
Author: Paul Watzlawik a.o.
ISBN: 0393010090
and now back to work..
Anton Pirnat
Scott D. Yelich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Was the issue about an MX pointing to a CNAME ever resolved?
Yes; it's verboten. If you do it, don't expect to receive 100% of the mail
people try to send to you.
Also; please start a new thread when posting a new question; your message
showed up in
"Aaron L. Meehan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've said enough. Pretty close to adding a rule for *Outlook* and
*Inernet Mail Service* (heh, "Service!") into my .procmailrc, though,
for mails to this list, with the SNR getting so bad among you all.
The only problem with doing that is the
On 1 Dec 2000, Matt Brown wrote:
The only problem with doing that is the clueful admins with clueless
management who force everyone to use the Corporate Email Solution, ie
Outlook. Not me right now, but it was me in my last job.
Agreed. At my last consulting job... it took over 3 weeks to
"asantos" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or that XEmacs is not an operating system.
Actually, XEmacs is as much of an operating system--probably even
moreso--than early versions of Windows.
-Dave
Louis Mushandu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fits qmail installation and all was fine until I tried to send email to
the box. It produces the following error message
And wrote it twice. Woohoo. Hint: if no one replies to your question the
first time you post it, posting exactly the same
From: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actually, XEmacs is as much of an operating system--probably even
moreso--than early versions of Windows.
Me, I'd say that neither is an operating system ;)
Anyway, I think that a good rule of thumb to qualify a software piece as a
operating system is "does
I may be out of line here.
You are.
You post off-topic bullshit to a mailing list about qmail.
Oh, and you don't even have the decency to comply to the
well-established quoting standards when quoting email from others.
This is not a "I am willing to help dumb idiots" mailing list.
This is
But if you come here, post moronic questions, get beaten for it, and
then have the audacity to come back and whine publicly, then you are the
most pathetic creature on Earth and deserve to die slowly and painfully.
May the flies of a dozen dead camels' asses rest in your armpits!
I cannot
Am Donnerstag, 30. November 2000 20:30 schrieb Barley:
But if you come here, post moronic questions, get beaten for it, and
then have the audacity to come back and whine publicly, then you are the
most pathetic creature on Earth and deserve to die slowly and painfully.
May the flies of a
Thus spake Dave Sill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I'm not a big fan of newbie smackdowns, though a repeat offendor might
warrant one. I think newbies generally respond better to reward than
punishment. E.g., instead of:
This is a question that I have asked numerous times and I never got a
good
How exactly is my MUA broken?
Your MTA is not so broken that it could not be fixed if you actually
understood what you are doing. Robin chose to be more polite to you
than you are to us, so he rather wrote that it's your MUA's fault.
Telling someone to RTFM would be helpful, if the manual
Am Donnerstag, 30. November 2000 20:30 schrieb Barley:
But if you come here, post moronic questions, get beaten for it, and
then have the audacity to come back and whine publicly, then you are
the
most pathetic creature on Earth and deserve to die slowly and
painfully.
May the
"Barley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I cannot get over this attitude. Can it really be that the majority of the
qmail community feels like old Felix here?
If I say "yes" can we kill this thread?
-Dave
Quoting John W. Lemons III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I've seen this over and over and over. Someone joins the list, probably
because they are having problems (the same reason I joined), posts a
question
Back in the day, it was prudent and _neccessary_ to do thorough
checking of the forum's
Thus spake Barley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Man, this Robin character is nuts. Coder-superiority syndrome big time. Why
is it that tech geeks are so sure that their field of knowledge is the only
one that indicates general intelligence?
Hahaha, you idiot can't even be bothered to use a search
us newbies are chastised by
definition.
-Original Message-
From: Aaron L. Meehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 3:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)
Quoting John W. Lemons III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I've seen this ove
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 12:55:33PM -0800, Barley wrote:
I think you're worng.
STOP THIS BULLSHIT. NOW! IT'S ALREADY MORE THAN ENOUGH.
And if you think you must continue, take it to private mail.
\Maex
Am Donnerstag, 30. November 2000 21:55 schrieb Barley:
You see, you, like Felix, are a rude person who
enjoys trashing newbies. You were the first person to get incredibly nasty
about newbies yesterday, then that joker Robin...now this Felix character.
It seem to me that you angry types form
Thus spake Barley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
You mentioned Darwinism in a former post, Robin. How exactly is an angry
geek who knows a whole lot about electronic boxes, but less than nothing
about interacting successfully with the 5 billion other real-live people on
the planet suited for
From: Markus Stumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
STOP THIS BULLSHIT. NOW! IT'S ALREADY MORE THAN ENOUGH.
"...a dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack
of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of
gentle manners, is more significant than a riot.
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 09:27:57PM +0100, Felix von Leitner wrote:
Thus spake Dave Sill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I'm not a big fan of newbie smackdowns, though a repeat offendor might
warrant one. I think newbies generally respond better to reward than
punishment. E.g., instead of:
This is
Isn't it interesting that Stumf, Leitner and Socha all come from Germany?
Just a coincidence, I suppose.
And that they all talk sweepingly of "genetic superiority"? I thought I was
the only one who noticed...
'nough said.
Armando
Barley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 30 November 2000 at 11:30:46 -0800
But if you come here, post moronic questions, get beaten for it, and
then have the audacity to come back and whine publicly, then you are the
most pathetic creature on Earth and deserve to die slowly and painfully.
Felix von Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 30 November 2000 at 21:27:57 +0100
Thus spake Dave Sill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I'm not a big fan of newbie smackdowns, though a repeat offendor might
warrant one. I think newbies generally respond better to reward than
punishment. E.g.,
Barley wrote:
And that they all talk sweepingly of "genetic superiority"? I thought I
was
the only one who noticed...
Let's see, if USENET history is any indication, flame wars usually die down
the moment people start calling each other Nazis. Glad to see this one's
almost over.
By the way,
Was the issue about an MX pointing to a CNAME ever resolved?
Scott
Am Freitag, 1. Dezember 2000 00:54 schrieb asantos:
Isn't it interesting that Stumf, Leitner and Socha all come from Germany?
Just a coincidence, I suppose.
What about writing a rule for your mailer: if ( $sender =~ /.de$/ ) { kill
mail; }. Then you can happily read all the lusers bullshit
about interacting successfully with the 5 billion other real-live
people on
the planet suited for survival in a Darwinian sense?
You wouldn't say that if you knew how many of us wanted to sleep with him.
--
Kate
http://www.katewerk.com
Hrm i thought Robin was a woman ;)
Rick
Quoting rmiddleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
about interacting successfully with the 5 billion other
real-live people on the planet suited for survival in a
Darwinian sense?
You wouldn't say that if you knew how many of us wanted to sleep
with him.
Hrm i thought Robin was a
From: Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Isn't it interesting that Stumf, Leitner and Socha all come from Germany?
Just a coincidence, I suppose.
What about writing a rule for your mailer: if ( $sender =~ /.de$/ ) { kill
mail; }. Then you can happily read all the lusers bullshit without being
On Fri, 01 Dec 2000, Henning Brauer wrote:
What about writing a rule for your mailer: if ( $sender =~ /.de$/ ) {
kill mail; }. Then you can happily read all the lusers bullshit
without being disturbed by us nazis tryin to get world domination.
Maybe you won't get the 3rd world war
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 03:21:40PM -0800, Barley wrote:
Isn't it interesting that Stumf, Leitner and Socha all come from Germany?
Just a coincidence, I suppose.
And that they all talk sweepingly of "genetic superiority"? I thought I was
the only one who noticed...
Isn't it funny, how
Am Donnerstag, 30. November 2000 22:21 schrieb Horacio:
On Fri, 01 Dec 2000, Henning Brauer wrote:
What about writing a rule for your mailer: if ( $sender =~ /.de$/ ) {
kill mail; }. Then you can happily read all the lusers bullshit
without being disturbed by us nazis tryin to get world
Isn't it funny, how *some* people that live in a country and a culture
- that killed thousands of black people
- that killed thousands of red indians
- that killed thousands of people with the atomic bomb
- that killed thousands of people in Vietnam
You forgot the hundreds
Hrm i thought Robin was a woman ;)
You wouldn't believe how much money we made with that webcam...
--
Robin S. Socha http://socha.net/
hah! that owns! now smack your dad for the chick's name ;)
Thus spake David Dyer-Bennet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
a. are too dumb to state their question properly
(this includes bad grammar, bad spelling, bad quoting and obnoxious
signatures)
Remembering that English is not the first language for everybody; I
make considerably more
* Markus Stumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001130 20:23]:
Isn't it funny, how *some* people that live in a country and a culture
- that killed thousands of black people
[snip]
Yeah yeah yeah, at least *we* know that David Hasselhof is talentless.
/pg
--
Peter Green : Gospel Communications Network,
Thus spake Markus Stumpf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
- who has the highest crime rate in "western civilation"
- where it is forbidden to show naked breasts (you know the things you got
your first meal from in your life) on TV, but it is prefectly ok
to broadcast a detailed sequence of a
Thus spake Barley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
And that they all talk sweepingly of "genetic superiority"? I thought I was
the only one who noticed...
It was you who brought that term up.
Felix
PLEASE DO NOT READ NEWBIE QUESTION IF WANT TO USE THOSE DEROGATORY
STATEMENTS .YU DONT EVEN HELP EITHER .I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO
WOULD LIKE TO HELP!
-Original Message-
From: Henning Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:55 AM
To: suresh
a question, provide all necessary information, in general as much
as possible. At least OS, versions (including patch version), _complete_
logs, configuration
-checked all logs yourself, including ldap logs, set loglevel to highest
possible value - helps a lot
PLEASE DO NOT READ NEWBIE QUESTI
eline. Ch
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie question
Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2000 15:11 schrieb suresh:
Suresh, for first writing such nonsens to the list and asking me for help
off
list does not fit together. before asking other busy people for help (it is
no paid suppor
for help.
Jamin W. Collins
-Original Message-
From: Henning Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 3:11 AM
To: suresh; Qmail-Ldap@Argus. Pipeline. Ch
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie question
Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2000 1
I don't see your problem. he was on the wrong list as this is qmail-ldap
specific. he posted to the qmail-ldap list too, so nobody can tell me he
didn't know about this list. I answered anyway. I asked him if the file
mentioned in the error msg exists. if so, i requested more info than one
: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)
* Jamin Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] whines:
I may be out of line here. However, this is not the first time I've
seen snappy rude responses from people in response to others asking
for help. I am simply quoting this message as it is the most recent.
*sigh
on 11/29/00 9:47 AM, Jamin Collins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All I ask is that common courtesy be extended to those asking for help.
The people who often provide help simply expect the same sort of courtesy.
Remember who's doing whom the favor, and that this list is about qmail, not
Unix.
on 11/29/00 11:10 AM, Jamin Collins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you see the questions of users on this list as bothersome, I'm sorry.
However, as membership to the list is voluntary, you are not being forced to
read them. In short, if you don't like them, don't read them.
Sure. And if
Original Message-
From: Henning Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 9:35 AM
To: Jamin Collins; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)
I don't see your problem. he was on the wrong list as this is qmail-ldap
specific. he posted to the
How exactly is my MUA broken?
It isn't, the user is broken. The user incorrectly decided that
everyone would just love to see the full text of the original message
(perhaps in case they inexplicably missed it the first time!), and that it
needed no marking to make it clear to readers
Sometimes I wonder what brings people like you to posting this whining
luser shit over and over and over again? This is not your new-age pink
treehuggers society - this is a technical discussion list. IT-Darwinism,
y'know? Survival of the brightest and, like, stuff. Huh-huh.
--
Robin S. Socha
If
* Jamin Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How exactly is my MUA broken?
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I've included the original text of the message
on 11/29/00 11:22 AM, Jamin Collins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As such, asking for help (whether on the right list or not) is in no way
wrong. Berating someone for doing so is rude.
It might also be considered rude to post to the wrong list, or to ask for
help without providing useful
not
subscribed so it can't unsubscribe me. Go figure.
-Original Message-
From: Jamin Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 10:22 AM
To: 'Henning Brauer'; Jamin Collins; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)
Since you've asked, my
Jamin Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How exactly is my MUA broken?
I've included the original text of the message I've responded to. I've
simply chosen not to add anything to the beginning of each line of the
original message.
Hence the breakage. Netiquette dictates that replies be
W. Lemons III
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)
"John W. Lemons III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The mind boggles at how important their work is that they are unable
to help, yet they have plenty of time to post novella's about how
busy they
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