There are quite a few repeaters using club call signs rather than an
individuals call sign.
I used our club call sign on my first repeater, and am using my own on my
repeater here.
According to the application for coordination here in Texas, I will be
the trustee of the repeater.
Wayne,
Trustee appears to remain in use by some coordinators for repeaters
operated directly by the licensees, a context in which the term has not had
any meaning to the FCC since the WR callsigns went away. As long as we
use the terms the FCC expects in any official communication with the
Hello all,
I have a nice working Data Signal, Inc CWID-70. I cannot find anything
online at all about Data Signal, Inc never mind finding any manual for
the CWID-70. Anyone have any info on this unit. Need to find out the
pinout for the 25 connectors on the back and about programming.
Thanks
At 12:50 AM 5/17/2008, you wrote:
Hi Mark,
We are all here... some of us haven't been located by the
authorities yet. If you want to call my cell... 17074463419
and the brauts can be ordered with pepers and onions for .75
more... mmmhm good. Our booth is just up from
the Outside
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The contact number I have for eBay is
Main: 800-322-9266
Alternate: 408-376-7400
Other: 888-749-3229
Main Address:
2145 Hamilton Avenue
San Jose 95125
Call before 2pm Pacific time M-F
Well, at least I have it for next year... ;-p
Mark - N9WYS
-Original Message-
At 12:50 AM 5/17/2008, you wrote:
Hi Mark,
We are all here... some of us haven't been located by the
authorities yet. If you want to call my cell... 17074463419
--- snip ---
I'm the short fat guy with red
I have a GE mstr II rack repeater. Uhf version. I am installing an
rc210 controller. I have all the cards out accept the 10 v regulator
card plus I have the guard tone board and the encode board installed.
These are original boards. I have found receive flat audio, transmit
audio, PTT, and cos.
There are two or three practical ways to source out Data Signal -
Albany GA manuals and information.
First, I would instruct people to search the Repeater-Builder web
site. Scans of some of the more common Data Signal Products have
been made and dontated / sent in by various folks.
The
Re: Dayton 2008
It was great to meet up with Bob, Dave, Jeff and everyone else
who made Dayton 2008 a lot of fun. I kept trying to encourage
Bob to buy more surplus radio gear...
My back hurts from hauling a near weight-limit suitcase back
to the left/west coast so you know I fell off my
Thank you for taking time to reply to this.
73
W4CSO
- Original Message -
From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:34 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sunday at Dayton - Part Deux
The contact number I have for eBay is
: David n1roa@ wrote:
: Well,
: I have been in touch with gamecountry.biz. I can get a manual
: for $20.00 but they cannot offer nor do they have anyone that
: can offer a new prom.
Hi David,
I was dealing with the Manual portion of your post first. Now
let's talk real world... Relative to
It was great to meet up with Bob, Dave, Jeff and everyone else
who made Dayton 2008 a lot of fun. I kept trying to encourage
Bob to buy more surplus radio gear...
Where were you Sunday? NO6B bought lunch (brats) but you were nowhere to be
found...
My back hurts from hauling a near
So you were there too, Jeff???
That does it - next year, WE (or at least *I*) absolutely NEED to coordinate
a meet location and time, so we can put faces to names! I'm so frustrated I
missed everyone!
Maybe next year I'll float a mini-blimp over my head with my call on it...
kinda like KE8T-
A very long time ago I reversed engineered the CWID 70 stupid prom thing and
made one with my call.
I had the manual, a prom burner and a lot of time to kill.It is a very
similar design to the one in the 70's or early 80's Amateur Radio Handbook. I
have
the manual somewhere if the
I asked my XYL if the Repeater-Builder group would qualify for one of
Hamvention's reduced-price Club spaces?? ($100 for 4 spaces)
My kids will be old enough next year to allow for my wife and I to tend some
tables. If we do get a few club spaces, we can all have a central location
to meet
Scott, missed seeing you guys there this year...hope you can go next year .
There was no rain but some wind this year.
73 John VE3AMZ
- Original Message -
From: Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:28 PM
Subject: Re:
The XYL and I were there on Friday. We drove to Indy on Thursday, dropped
the youngin's off with the in-laws and make the trek back to Dayton on
Friday morning. We didn't go back for Saturday's fun. I looked at the crowd
on Friday and decided not to return on Saturday. We did get to see a few
When it comes to a coordination, what term CAN you use with the FCC
since they have no term for the holder of a coordination? You can't call
that person a licensee since the coordination is not a license.
Trustee is an appropriate term in any sense of the word since that
person is entrusted
Why is it that it seems to be hard to locate the updated part 97.201
other than on the ARRL web site?
I searched and searched but only came up with the older version till I
searched on the ARRL site.
At any rate, it does now allow one to use parts of two meter as control
links.
I have never programmed a motorola before. I have a
VHF High band,conventional unit with the A5 head. It currently
works on a weather channel. I have a RIB and the appropriate cable as
well as some spectra software. I do not want to turn the radio
into a 'brick' so I am asking for some direction
-Original Message-
From: Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 19, 2008 2:57 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]part 97.201 was Control Link
Why is it that it seems to be hard to locate the updated part 97.201
other than on the ARRL web site?
I
Wayne wrote:
Why is it that it seems to be hard to locate the updated part 97.201
other than on the ARRL web site?
I searched and searched but only came up with the older version till I
searched on the ARRL site.
Because most hams who have websites are clueless that Part 97 ever
skipp025 wrote:
People are using Micor Mobiles to hold down their tents... on Sunday
as folks depart a scoop loader comes down the rows picking up what
everyone leaves behind.
NOW I know how to market those things on eBay! Thanks Skipp! :-)
In another half day Dayton 2008 will pass
George Henry wrote:
Did you try the FCC website? 3 clicks from the home page and you're there.
And in PDF form, too, which makes searching the rules for keywords SOO
much nicer! (I downloaded all of the subparts assembled them into 1 PDF
document with Acrobat 6.0)
This link:
I sure could use the same information. Have Spectra, Software and rib
Ralph, W7HSG
-- Original message --
From: k5ilf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have never programmed a motorola before. I have a
VHF High band,conventional unit with the A5 head. It currently
works on a
It said something about not keeping it.
So I deleted it.
people with fertile minds (full of manure, ha ha ha...)...
Wayne WA2YNE
On Sun, 18 May 2008 12:02:18 -0500, Robert Pease [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If I forward this will it help me have better luck with my midland
repeaters.
Has she made several bad films yet with a heavy accent ?
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:05:27 +
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sunday at Dayton - Part Deux
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com,
To get any FCC regs go to:
http://www.fcc.gov/
Select on the left Rules Regulations.
At the top select Title 47 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
Now you can scroll down and select ANY Part you want including Part 97,
the Amateur RAdio rules.
You will be taken to another site.
I
Joe,
I know of some Hams who have talked to Riley about setting up standards
for coordinators. He and FCC do not want to even think about it.
What does it take to be a coordinator??? There may be some standards in
the FCC minds. For commercial there are some standards and I think they
call
Scott,
Are the space outside or inside. Also what about the $70 spaces.
When I had inside booth, 8x8, at Dayton 15 years ago they were over
$400. Outside was $30 and more if wanted more spaces. This is when
they sold out with about a 40% excess in request. They did a lottery to
Chris,
What is the PROM in the CWID70??? What is the part number.
73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A very long time ago I
You know, Ron, you just gave me an inspiration.
What if the coordinators themselves were not hams, and not eligible to operate
ham repeaters? Imagine how many paper repeaters and how much corruption would
disappear instantly!
Maybe we should all elect professional spectrum managers instead of
At 03:28 PM 5/19/2008, you wrote:
I asked my XYL if the Repeater-Builder group would qualify for one of
Hamvention's reduced-price Club spaces?? ($100 for 4 spaces)
My kids will be old enough next year to allow for my wife and I to tend some
tables. If we do get a few club spaces, we can all
Or try here for the official copy:
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/cfr/1998/47cfr9
7.pdf
Mark - N9WYS
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
George Henry wrote:
Did you try the FCC website? 3 clicks from the home
At 02:24 PM 5/19/2008, you wrote:
So you were there too, Jeff???
That does it - next year, WE (or at least *I*) absolutely NEED to coordinate
a meet location and time, so we can put faces to names! I'm so frustrated I
missed everyone!
I kept a list of all the frequencies everyone here said they
I had about 6 or so listed on an Excel Spreadsheet, but only actually used
the Bades' 900 machine... Other than that, I was on 223.46 simplex.
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 02:24 PM 5/19/2008, you wrote:
So you were there
Or, you can get the complete and latest edition of Part 97 here:
www.repeater-builder.com/fcc/2007-part-97-rules.pdf
Please take careful note that the latest and current edition of Part 97 is
dated October 2007. The next edition will be dated October 2008, and will
be published in January 2009.
David,
I have a CWID-50 Automatic Station Identifier, and it was made by Control
Signal Corporation, not Data Signal. I was able to buy both the manual
and a new PROM for it at reasonable prices. Go here:
www.controlsignal.com
The phone number is 800-521-2203. I wonder if CSC is really the
At 09:21 PM 5/19/2008, you wrote:
I had about 6 or so listed on an Excel Spreadsheet, but only actually used
the Bades' 900 machine... Other than that, I was on 223.46 simplex.
Wouldn't do me any good, since I don't have 900 didn't bring the 220 HT.
Just about everybody I know hangs out on a
Well all of us commercial system operators have to deal with this and pay
through the nose. It would take some politics out of the coordination process
and to each his own. It we did do this then most likely the FCC would issue a
10 year license. Also, to keep in mind, all you people that are
Ok make that make that me three. I have a spectra with the remote head
for 440, and have a riblless cable with an extra wire sticking out of
one connector (what's it for?)
Roy Dean kd5ayw Clovis NM
Paul,
How would that make the paper repeaters disappear? Also, I doubt if you could
get any professional person to do that job for the dues collected.
Paul
_
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Paul Plack
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008
Thank you all for your help. The h41-h42 jumper( system board) was
cut in my late night wiring. Works great with factory encode/decode
boards. The following I found was flat audio ( through the de-emp
circuit on the rc210)on the system board RX PA, ptt on the back , mic
high for tx audio, the
My 444.85 machine was there and worked well. I used a DB 408 antenna this
year instead of a old Ringo and made a ton of difference in the coverage in
the buildings but still did not cover the whole inside flea market. I think
part is do to the amount of transmit noise inside the buildings, go
Actually, there is national mutual recognition of coordinators and not
just anyone can establish themselves as a coordinator. It would require
cross-coordination with surrounding coordinators which is not going to
happen unless the existing coordinator goes belly-up (as happened in NYC
and has
Yea - make it someone who doesn't care about anything other than the
money - that would really 'improve' things. :-\
That's what exists in the Land Mobile bands - bands where you have two
repeaters coordinated 200 FEET apart. Is that REALLY what you want?
Joe M.
Paul Plack wrote:
You
You're probably right on the money part.
In my admittedly limited experience, (four states, three different
coordinators,) one of the perks of being elected to some coordinating bodies
seems to be grabbing available pairs out of turn when they open and/or putting
paper repeaters on them. If
- Original Message -
From: Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]part 97.201 was Control Link
George Henry wrote:
Did you try the FCC website? 3 clicks from the home page and you're
If they are 77 split mastr II's, it is likely to be difficult to retune
up to the 440 band.
But not impossible with modifications.
far easier to tune an 88 split downwards.
One item sometimes overlooked is the low pass filter in the output, which
low split units might create problems.
You'd be amazed at what negative feedback can do in many instances.
I have given a few, a couple wound up being mutually retracted once the
seller made good.
But I won't take BS from any seller, especially when an item is not as
stated.
Most sellers seem to be okay, but some are
I went to the ARRL site and got to Part 97 which came up as a web page.
I select in EDIT SELECT ALL, COPY and then PASTE in Wordpad. Sure does
not have all the pretty stuff, but does save the text.
The FCC web site takes one to a list of each section and not the entire
Part in one file.
I use a credit card or debit card also. Recently I bought a laptop on
Ebay for $600 and paid for it using Paypal. Well the guy must have died
or something as I never heard from him or saw my laptop. So I
complained to Paypal. They gave me a partial refund.
The partial refund was what was
Paul Plack wrote:

You're probably right on the money part.
In my admittedly limited experience, (four states, three different
coordinators,) one of the perks of being elected to some coordinating
bodies seems to be grabbing available pairs out of turn when they open
and/or putting
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