Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

2020-06-28 Thread Marc Gemis
On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 10:48 PM Mark Wagner wrote: > Distributed storage is one of those things that sounds good, but > nobody's figured out how to make it actually work well. I also wonder about privacy and security in a distributed system. Will the distributed system only contain the blurred

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

2020-06-21 Thread Marc Gemis
> * The CIA World Factbook says there are about 64 000 000 km of roads in > the world. > * Google Street View takes 100 photos per km. > * A photosphere from my tablet, compressed using WebP at 50% quality > takes 2.7 MB. I doubt the CIA number takes into account paths and tracks. Mapillary al

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-12 Thread Marc Gemis
Tomek, My mother tongue is Dutch. The second language I learned in school was French. Then English. I can follow discussions in German as well. But I'm not going to learn Esperanto, Polish, etc. anymore. I'm too old for that. I'm also not going to follow links to some sites that I don't know to g

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping outside Europe

2020-01-08 Thread Marc Gemis
e resistance. regards m. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:57 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > 7 Jan 2020, 20:53 by ma...@anche.no: > > On 07/01/2020 14:38, Marc Gemis wrote: > > Since OSM is a do-ocracy, do not complain, but write the wiki page you > want to see > > > that&

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping outside Europe

2020-01-07 Thread Marc Gemis
> a more important issue (I would call it "mapping outside Europe", hence > the subject) is for me each and every (photo)graphic explanation of the > tagging values. take `highway` > (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway). text are fine, > really, but the associated pictures seem all t

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Marc Gemis
So isn't the only conclusion that you can make that pre-rendered tiles fail as soon as one needs to serve a multi-language audience? Wouldn't the best technical solution be vector tiles (or another technology) and let the end-user choose in which language the names are displayed? Removing the "nam

Re: [OSM-talk] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-06 Thread Marc Gemis
What you describe is a rather trivial case. I agree that using OSM requires knowledge about all possible tagging methods. But even when you store all phone numbers as contact:phone in the database, all data consumers will still need to offer that data when people ask for phone. Especially in the c

Re: [OSM-talk] mapbox, (Changeset Analyzer), whodidit

2019-09-24 Thread Marc Gemis
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:47 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: > > What are these for anyway, other than stalking ?, Quality assurance (QA). It helps more experienced mappers to see where new people add things. If they spot mistakes, they should engage in a friendly conversation via private me

Re: [OSM-talk] lines, drawing.

2019-09-19 Thread Marc Gemis
rawing on the web edit map. > > the colors on the edit map do not match the info page. > > the rail platform on the web edit page is gone. > > the rail platform on the page is gone. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Rendering-highway_railway_platform_area.png >

Re: [OSM-talk] lines, drawing.

2019-09-19 Thread Marc Gemis
Maybe a stupid question, but what has to be fixed on that page? Can you provide a bit more detail? On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 3:47 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: > > can someone fix this page ? > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/LinesTab > ___ >

Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it nice to share? 🙂 | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-08-02 Thread Marc Gemis
This "self appointed police of OSM" will probably question - how did those companies receive the data, under which copyright? - how did they geocode the POIs, using Google's geocoder ? (a big no-no) - how up-to-date is this data ? Will you reimport POIs that have been rightfully removed in OSM ? -

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways divided by paint?

2019-07-03 Thread Marc Gemis
I agree that in this case I would tolerate it, but is it still allowed to turn from East Mineral avenue to the North-South, unclassified highway? If not, one should add turn restrictions. regards m On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:11 PM Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > On 03.07.2019 22:03, Jack Armstrong Dance

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-29 Thread Marc Gemis
I assume that that way (powerline) was downloaded because it also has nodes in the area you downloaded. JOSM will never complain about objects that are not downloaded. Powerline ways tend to be long, so the warning can easily be in another state, that is true. Furthermore, I thought that it is not

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Thread Marc Gemis
> > I am the copyright owner of my edits. You are the owner of yours. > > I don't recall ever giving the OSMF authority to act as my agent. Did you? You probably agreed to https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Contributor_Terms, not ? m. ___ tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing road geometry Australia

2019-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
If you miss the on-ramp and are waiting for the traffic signals, a router can recalculate the route in the meantime and still try to let you turn left at the traffic signals. m. On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Maarten Deen wrote: > > I agree that Markus' solution is more elegant (and I was more

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.17.0

2018-11-26 Thread Marc Gemis
> My intention was rather to hear about some general trends, As far as I understand, One general trend is to be "cleaner, have less information". (e.g. the building removal) Another one is paler colours (e.g. parking from yellow to grey) other landuse colour changes towards paler colours I regul

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.17.0

2018-11-25 Thread Marc Gemis
> BTW: what do you consider to be a progress here? What do you like the > most in recent changes and maybe what problems are the most visible? The sing ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM

2018-08-02 Thread Marc Gemis
isn't this just a variation on what3words [1] or Plus Codes from Google [2] ? Why would you enforce an address string made from 26 strange characters to people that might never have seen the English alphabet ? m. [1] https://what3words.com/ [2] https://plus.codes/ On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:45 P

Re: [OSM-talk] building=grandstand vs leisure=bleachers

2018-07-14 Thread Marc Gemis
You asked the exact same question in April 2018 on the tagging mailing list, not ? I like the response Philip Barnes gave you back then: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-April/035662.html. bleachers = open structures, without walls, grandstands with walls, roofs and often for

Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific paper on "Information Seeding"

2018-07-09 Thread Marc Gemis
> Compare that with the AND import of the Netherlands where the data was > accurate and needed only minor fixing but where the bulk has just been > untouched (except for adding metadata) and is still the base of the map > in the Netherlands. I hope you are not referring to the building import nor

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-04 Thread Marc Gemis
And of course you can use one of the mapcontrib "apps", e.g. https://www.mapcontrib.xyz/t/8a9a5d-Eau_potable (or make your own) regards m On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > The wiki page of amenity=drinking_water lists 2 apps: > [1] https://play.google.com/st

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-04 Thread Marc Gemis
The wiki page of amenity=drinking_water lists 2 apps: [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bplaced.tapwater [2] http://wetap.org/ I've never tried them. m. On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > I am looking for an application for Android displaying > amenity

[OSM-talk] Mapper of the Month: Yasunari Yamashita (Japan)

2018-05-11 Thread Marc Gemis
This month we interviewed 2 Japanese mappers. The first interview is can be found on the Belgian website [1]. The Japanese version as a diary entry [2]. The second one will be publish in the next couple of days. I hope you enjoy reading it. regards m. [1] http://www.osm.be/2018/05/11/en-motm-Y

Re: [OSM-talk] Local language help

2018-05-10 Thread Marc Gemis
Don't you think that Belgians like Jo and the rest of the Belgian community know best what the default language is in a certain area ? This can be a pretty sensitive topic, which is not always easy to understand by outsiders. So please let the Belgian community decide the default language without p

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM editor for cycling infrastructure on smartphone?

2018-05-09 Thread Marc Gemis
https://www.mapcontrib.xyz/ has a number of dedicated "apps". Search for bicycle on the home page. On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Is there anywhere an app for editing specifically bicycle infrastructure > elements in OSM: bicycle paths, shared foot-bicycle paths, road cr

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Marc Gemis
018 o 14:49, Marc Gemis pisze: >> The name for the country in the name tag is " België / Belgique / Belgien" >> (*) >> The name for any street in Brussels is either " - " >> or " - " with the majority mapped with French in >> front. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Marc Gemis
2018 at 2:16 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > W dniu 26.04.2018 o 13:53, Marc Gemis pisze: >> Do you now assume that names in region B outside city C have a >> namehr;nameit in the name tag? > > Yes, unless stated otherwise for cities E, F and G. > > To be clear: I assume only tha

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

2018-04-24 Thread Marc Gemis
I wonder why those arguments always pop up when we talk about separate sidewalks and not when we talk about separate cycleways. AFAIK it is common practice to map cycleways as separate ways in OSM as soon as there is a kerb. Don't we encounter the same problems in data processing for cycleways ?

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-24 Thread Marc Gemis
FYI The unisex tag is also used as a shorthand for female=yes, male=yes on shop=hairdresser [1] . Giving it another meaning on toilets might cause extra confusion. regards m [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=hairdresser Op di 24 apr. 2018 18:27 schreef Rory McCann : > Hi all,

Re: [OSM-talk] diversity-talk: No such list

2018-02-21 Thread Marc Gemis
I know of at least 1 person that got banned from the tagging mailing list for 2 weeks or so for using inappropriate language. regards m. On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 20. Feb 2018, at 02:50, Kate Chapman wrote: >> >> If someone want

Re: [OSM-talk] Tool for tag tracking

2018-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
Oleksiy, Is your planned tool similar to : http://tagfinder.herokuapp.com/ ? m. On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > I work on a tool to view a certain tag on the map for a non-programmer, for > those who do not speak English (a language could be selected in the upper > wr

Re: [OSM-talk] no osmf-talk link at listinfo

2017-12-19 Thread Marc Gemis
It's listed on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists Just click on the "archive" link there to access it (read-only of course) as a non OSMF member. m. On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:19 AM, Sérgio V. wrote: > Of course I understand, and support, that sending emails to OSMF-talk is > onl

Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

2017-11-20 Thread Marc Gemis
this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge > ‘centroids’ (simple), another would be to consider whatever challenge has at > least one task within the current map bounds (harder). What would be your > idea about this? Others with an opinion? > -- > Martijn van Exel

Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

2017-11-20 Thread Marc Gemis
The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues" within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set). m. On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > For those who have

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-11-02 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 02-Nov-17 08:58 PM, Tomas Straupis wrote: >> >> 2017-11-02 11:24 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis wrote: >>> >>> The current situation is not helping in producing useful maps. Too >>>

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-11-02 Thread Marc Gemis
The current situation is not helping in producing useful maps. Too often I find myself in a residential area with large gardens and trees when I expected to find a real forest based on what OSM is displaying. So there is room for improvement. I like the landcover=trees idea, but this does not des

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-10-25 Thread Marc Gemis
Please tell me where the wikipedia link is in e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q37344570 :-) Wikidata does not have to be a bunch of links to wikipedia articles. It has references to 2 external DBs (ODIS & Onroerend erfgoed), so it should be considered notable. I have no idea how many bad item

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-10-16 Thread Marc Gemis
I was thinking about possible changes to the tool that would make it a useful tool for the community, and at the same time not violating any policy. On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Monday 16 October 2017, Marc Gemis wrote: >> Would Yuri's tool

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-10-16 Thread Marc Gemis
Would Yuri's tool be OK, if the proposed changes were limited to objects that were created/last edited after survey to the person that is using the tool ? I was thinking of a scenario where people try to help with a tag-renaming proposal. Such a tool would be handy to help them locate all objects

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-10-01 Thread Marc Gemis
> Wikipedia is based on secondary sources, it rejects original research. > OSM is fundamentally different in that because it is based on > verification by original research. I'm trying to understand this. If I noticed an inception date on a information sign next to a building, is this original re

Re: [OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM

2017-09-28 Thread Marc Gemis
O, I even believe that e.g. all (or a large number of) Dutch streets are in Wikidata without having a Wikipedia article for the individual streets. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > Thanks for explaining, Andy. > > Please note that as I said before, it is not true t

Re: [OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM

2017-09-28 Thread Marc Gemis
true that each Wikipedia article (or page) has a Wikidata entry, but not the other way around. regards m On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 28/09/2017 10:36, Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> Andy are you now saying that it is OK to have 1 wikidata tag on each >&g

Re: [OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM (was: Overlapping brands)

2017-09-28 Thread Marc Gemis
Andy are you now saying that it is OK to have 1 wikidata tag on each street, so someone can create an external list of streets with Wikidata ids to represent some kind of collection (like "all streets named after Leuven") ? m. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 28/09/201

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
So you do not agree with the Automated Edits code of conduct ? If an automated edit takes place in a country, why do you expect that that community follows the talk mailing list or even speak English ? People has the right to know that some stranger starts making changes in their area without being

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
> > Can anyone think of an example where two unrelated brands share the same > name and category of business in the same geographical area? Is "the same geographical area" relevant ? Why should a data consumer use a separate datebase to identify the brand of an item ? Suppose I want to find all "

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
I fail to understand how an external database can link to an OSM location in case we do not allow foreign keys. I know there is some vague "find something with a name similar to X in some area Y" kind of strategy, but did somebody ever implemented such a thing ? I doubt that "area Y" is always know

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-26 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > That's simply rubbish. Tags on an OSM object describe it in the real world. > They should be verifiable. Whether an OSM object has a wikidata tag on it > is essentially irrelevant as far as OSM is concerned - it's just a primary > key into

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-26 Thread Marc Gemis
programmers project, it's about people, not software :-) On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 26 September 2017 at 04:14, Marc Gemis wrote: > >> I believe the mechanical edit polity demands that you discuss with the >> *local* community. That means if y

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
ecision making. This would improve contributors morale, > instead of making them feel like robots :) > > Clarifying: the OSM objects already point to those pages via redirect. The > redirect information is only stored in Wikipedia. > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Marc Gemis wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
or via Osmose ? On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > what about a Maproulette task ? > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Yuri Astrakhan > wrote: >> At the moment, there are nearly 40,000 OSM objects whose wikipedia tag does >> not match their wikida

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
what about a Maproulette task ? On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > At the moment, there are nearly 40,000 OSM objects whose wikipedia tag does > not match their wikidata tag. Most of them are Wikipedia redirects, whose > target is the right wikipedia article. If we are not r

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
> moving it here. I believe I acted in good faith according to the mechanical > edit policy - discussed with the community, and proceeded. I believe the mechanical edit polity demands that you discuss with the *local* community. That means if your edit modifies items in e.g. Mexico, Belgium and J

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-20 Thread Marc Gemis
As for the Faroer Islands (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4628) I see some contradicting information there.The labels refer to an archipelago, while the "is a" statement refers to an administrative part of Denmark. When an item has only 1 "is a" statement, it is not possible to refer to 2 differen

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-22 Thread Marc Gemis
> >> maxspeed:practical should take dense account or traffic jams into >> account as good as possible. So far I am not aware of any router >> evaluating time based conditional restrictions but those could be >> used to take rush hours somewhat into account. > > Agreed. Or even live traffic. But I

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-22 Thread Marc Gemis
Did you try with e.g. MapFactor Navigator, which has settings for your preference of 8 road categories + maxspeed inside & outside towns ? Just being curious. regards m On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 22/08/17 11:41, Colin Smale wrote: >> I agree, classification shoul

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-20 Thread Marc Gemis
> So basically: please don't go adjusting roads in the US away from > established rough consensus because you think it ought to be different. or anywhere else I would say :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/l

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-19 Thread Marc Gemis
As you can see from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway:International_equivalence, trunk roads are defined differently in many countries. If you look at e.g. Denmark, a trunk road needs a special sign. Those signs typically come with some rules and permissions (e.g. higher speed allowed, no

Re: [OSM-talk] An import in New Zealand, assistance requested

2017-08-15 Thread Marc Gemis
Isn't this something for the Data Working Group: d...@osmfoundation.org ? regards m On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:10 AM, Robin Paulson wrote: > Before I ask for assistance, please note this: I've already brought > this up on osm-imports and got nowhere useful. > > There are a number of users in NZ

[OSM-talk] Mapper of the month series

2017-07-18 Thread Marc Gemis
As you might now, the Belgian community has a series of interviews with mappers from all over the world. This time we have a Canadian: Jamie Nadeau en: http://www.osm.be/2017/07/18/en-motm-jamie_nadeau.html fr: http://www.osm.be/2017/07/18/fr-motm-jamie_nadeau.html nl: http://www.osm.be/2017/07/18

Re: [OSM-talk] "NRCS basic OSM training" - low quality changesets in Nepal

2017-06-22 Thread Marc Gemis
So Warin's proposal should use +, not dot. With plus you can append anything, with dot the other characters should remain the same. m Op 23 jun. 2017 00:54 schreef "Éric Gillet" : 2017-06-23 0:34 GMT+02:00 Nicolás Alvarez : > > Ben .. you could try, say, bdiscoe@gmail.com and > bdiscoe.old.

Re: [OSM-talk] Street Complete

2017-06-02 Thread Marc Gemis
On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > If you promote an editor that affects OSM data, you need to be responsive to > the OSM community. That means monitoring the communication channels favoured > by the OSM community and being prepared to respond to them. You cannot just > de

Re: [OSM-talk] Street Complete

2017-06-02 Thread Marc Gemis
Assuming the author(s) of the app is on this list. The app was mentioned for the first time on the forum (perhaps here [1]), so the author might be more familiar with that communication channel. m. [1] https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=56582 (December 1, 2016) On Fri, Jun 2, 2017

Re: [OSM-talk] Time-based attributes

2017-06-02 Thread Marc Gemis
There is an old proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/temporary I guess without any support from data consumers. m. On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:59 AM, MonkZ wrote: > Hi, > > are there things like attribute values that change over time? > > Like this, to indicate a value ch

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-11 Thread Marc Gemis
ok, multiple from in a relation will solve this. Isn't it a problem that some "from"s do not end in some "intersection"s ? On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 1:28 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> On Fri

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-11 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> to: the collection of ways one can travel to after stopping/giving >> way/waiting for traffic signal. This would include the from way so >> u-turns have to obey the sign/signal as well. > > > Yes. At a minimum, a stop, give_way, traffic_si

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-11 Thread Marc Gemis
So would a stop sign / give way sign /traffic signal then be mapped as stop_position: node where on the street does one have to stop/give way/wait for traffic signal sign : node (optional) the exact location of the sign from: the way one is following to which the action has to be applied (is this

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-28 Thread Marc Gemis
about cycleways). m. On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> Just curious, do you apply the same arguments to map separate >> sidewalks and sidewalks separate from cycle ways ? Or are there >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread Marc Gemis
Just curious, do you apply the same arguments to map separate sidewalks and sidewalks separate from cycle ways ? Or are there reasons to treat sidewalk differently ? m On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2017-04-27 9:19 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe : >> >> So not all of

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-26 Thread Marc Gemis
In some countries you have to place bicycle=use_sidepath on the main road when you map a separate cycleway. This is done to indicate that you are supposed to ride on the cycleway, but may use the main road to access e.g. houses on the opposite side. In such a case it make no sense to also keep cyc

Re: [OSM-talk] Disputed border between Greece and Turkey near Imia/Kardak in the Aegean Sea (was: Re: [Geocoding] Boundries of Kardak Islands)

2017-03-30 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 6:39 AM, David Marchal wrote: > If I correctly remember, in such cases, both point of views should be used; > in this case, two boundary segments should be dragged: one including the > islets with Greece, and the other one including them with Turkey. The rule is that borde

Re: [OSM-talk] Lots of small copies of existing relations

2017-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
For the changeset discussion: go to http://www.hdyc.neis-one.org/? (fill in your osm name behind the question mark). there you find links behind "Changeset discussions:" and "Discussed changesets". The former is for the ones you participated in, the latter for comments on your own changesets.

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Marc Gemis
I'm now trying to clean up the wikidata / wikipedia tags on administrative boundaries in Belgium. One of the problems seems that nyuriks automatically (?) added wikidata tags [1] without making sure the wikipedia tags were placed correctly in OSM. And now that same person asks to help him clean u

Re: [OSM-talk] Spoken street names

2016-08-17 Thread Marc Gemis
There is also Mapfactor Navigator [1], they do have a free version as well.I didn't like their "announcements" for highway exists as much as OsmAnd's. m [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mapfactor.navigator&hl=en p.s. I find spoken street names not so interesting. In Belgium

Re: [OSM-talk] combining nodes with ways

2016-08-11 Thread Marc Gemis
But then you remove the node. I had the impression the OP wanted to keep the POI node, but copy/move address information onto the building. You can easily copy all tags from one object to another, (select first, select target, shift-R), but then you also copy the POI tags, not only the address info

Re: [OSM-talk] combining nodes with ways

2016-08-11 Thread Marc Gemis
As far as I know you cannot know the extend of "wonderland" until you asked all people in Wonderland what their postcode is. "Wonderland" or ZIP-code "area" is only defined by the post, and does not match any administrative boundary. This is the case for Canada, US and UK. Unlike Belgium or Germany

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: >> - add an external ID to OSM. This would be analogue to the current wikidata >> tag. It's better not to add external IDs to OSM. It would be OK if there is only 1 project in the world that would do this, but if every pet project will start do

Re: [OSM-talk] Viewing pre-redaction OSM tiles?

2016-07-14 Thread Marc Gemis
Do you mean Martijn van Excel's "Now and Then" ? https://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#10/52.2644/5.2899 It does has a slider, but it compares 2007 with now. regards m On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 9:42 PM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > I am not. I just don't want to say "guilty" prematurely. It's a syst

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

2016-03-11 Thread Marc Gemis
Please read http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes, which describes the ":lanes"- subkey. This page states: "Please be aware that this extension covers all kinds of lanes for all kind of vehicles and is not restricted to motorized traffic." this means that all turn:lanes, change:lanes, access:l

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

2016-03-10 Thread Marc Gemis
Thanks for writing this nice guide. Everything becomes more complex when there are cycle lanes involved. Maybe you could spend a chapter on that as well ? I'm thinking about turn:lanes that should take into account the cycle lanes, as well as permissions for the different lanes in those cases. Al

Re: [OSM-talk] OsmAnd financially rewarding mappers

2016-03-03 Thread Marc Gemis
Yeah, just created a dedicated OSM account and start adding points and ways, who cares that they have that password. It does have to be your normal OSM account with "serious" password. My point is that it might attract people that just upload data without any benefit to OSM (wrong data or data tha

Re: [OSM-talk] OsmAnd financially rewarding mappers

2016-03-03 Thread Marc Gemis
So you will start making changesets where you move points one pixel at the time to their final position ? (just to increase the number of changesets) :-) On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 5:17 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> If I

[OSM-talk] OsmAnd financially rewarding mappers

2016-03-03 Thread Marc Gemis
If I understand the discussion on [1] correctly OsmAnd will reward mappers with bitcoins. The bitcoins seem to be paid via a formula based on the number of changesets you upload. I think this is a bad idea, (just like Jack Burke illustrates with the Dilbert strips in the linked topic). What do you

Re: [OSM-talk] Need some help

2016-02-11 Thread Marc Gemis
Coinmap was announced a long time ago on the forum: [1] A search on Google for "Coinmap OSM" returns as first entry: " coinmap https://coinmap.org/ By subscribing, you agree with the terms of Mailchimp Privacy Policy. Copyright © SatoshiLabs. All Rights Reserved. Portions of data © OpenStreetM

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

2016-02-03 Thread Marc Gemis
I wonder whether this some expression in German that is translated literally in English. m. On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Dave F wrote: > Hi > > So often I'm put off from delving further into OSM & its uses by the > confusing nature of it's wiki pages. > > A simple example: > > http://wiki.op

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal to close newbies@ list

2016-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
In Belgium and The Netherlands, there are people that try to contact every new mapper via a personal message. This message includes a list of sources where the mapper can ask for help. The message is in the language of the mapper (Dutch or French). Belgian mappers get informed about the Belgian mai

Re: [OSM-talk] Is there a OSM map viewer program to dynamically view OSM data?

2016-01-07 Thread Marc Gemis
oops, I missed the "standalone" part in your message On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > http://www.openpoimap.org > http://www.openlinkmap.org > http://www.flosm.de/en/POI-map.html > > or look at the complete list at > http://wiki.openst

Re: [OSM-talk] Is there a OSM map viewer program to dynamically view OSM data?

2016-01-07 Thread Marc Gemis
http://www.openpoimap.org http://www.openlinkmap.org http://www.flosm.de/en/POI-map.html or look at the complete list at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services regards m On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Wuzzy wrote: > Hi! > > I was wondering if there is some standalone ap

Re: [OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

2016-01-07 Thread Marc Gemis
What about changeset comments with "google" in it ? On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Hans De Kryger wrote: > So i just came across an edit of a user near me that listed the source of > his edit as (Google Maps Street View) (1) > > I have just contacted the user asking for more information about h

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-05 Thread Marc Gemis
As soon as you record the data it is in the database, it doesn't matter whether it is rendered on the standard map or not. I think that if you need "stats" on abandoned buildings or shops, that you will load the data into your own database or a GIS system such as QGIS, where you can really analyse

Re: [OSM-talk] Belgium/Netherlands Boundary Change

2016-01-05 Thread Marc Gemis
No, the border does not have to be changed yet, although there seems to be an agreement between both governments Discussion on Belgian mailing list: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/2016-January/008250.html On the Dutch Forum: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=53204

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-24 Thread Marc Gemis
openlinkmap.org has such a box (search only in current map view). I assume it is using nominatim for obtaining the data. regards m. On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote: > > > On December 24, 2015 11:21:22 AM GMT+01:00, malenki wrote: > >>Because I know of the fallability of m

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-30 Thread Marc Gemis
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > In my example the party that needs to do the translation from w3w to lat/lon > would be Amazon, and they will probably be paying w3w for a licence to do > that. Wouldn't it be more likely that Amazon would invent their own system where custome

Re: [OSM-talk] Undiscussed (?) edits removing lesser-used highway=* tags

2015-11-07 Thread Marc Gemis
GerdP has written me twice about some tagging mistake I made. In one case I told him about a proposal he was not aware of, and he promptly reverted the change he had made in the meantime. In both cases we had a nice conversation via the changeset comments. Perhaps he did not contact the mapper tha

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering idiosyncrasies

2015-11-02 Thread Marc Gemis
11:31 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > >> I was once told by one of the style developers that the layer tag is not >> used in the standard rendering on osm.org. Only the size of the area's >> matter. >> > > I can confirm that using a layer tag does impact r

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering idiosyncrasies

2015-11-02 Thread Marc Gemis
I was once told by one of the style developers that the layer tag is not used in the standard rendering on osm.org. Only the size of the area's matter. regards m On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Ed Loach wrote: > Dave asked: > > > > Is anybody able to explain why the wood on the left renders >

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

2015-11-02 Thread Marc Gemis
> > > that's the difference between explicit and implicit mapping. If you are > explicit, you know that it should be like that, if you rely on the absence > of information / tags you might fall on your nose because the data wasn't > complete etc. > For some stuff it might sense to use the "no" to a

Re: [OSM-talk] Traffic Signs

2015-09-29 Thread Marc Gemis
AFAIK the Fins are already adding all traffic signs, see [1]. The Dutch made their own preset for JOSM based on the same lib. In Belgium someone tried the same, but it never really took off. regards m [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Finland:Traffic_signs On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:23 PM,

Re: [OSM-talk] running and registering an old osmand version

2015-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
While I also believe it is best to contact the OsmAnd devs, I doubt that the Google group is the best place. I do not see a lot of activity from them over there. On osmand.net there is a Contact Us link at the bottom . I hope you have more luck there. regards m On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 6:52 PM, S

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

2015-09-12 Thread Marc Gemis
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > Respect to Russ for standing up for his principles in the face of all this > bullying. Nobody has given a *consistent* answer yet. Why are "former > railway lines" which are no longer immediately evident on the ground > forbidden so vehemently

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

2015-09-12 Thread Marc Gemis
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Dave F. wrote: > highway=track, railway=abandoned, that cause problems & is what I'm trying > to solve A hiking or cycling map could only show the former, a railway map the latter. It is similar to 2 hiking paths following the same road. Which one should get p

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