Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Reporting Attribution Issues on Mapbox maps

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: > > > Webpages not hosted by Mapbox that are > > using Mapbox tiles with > > OSM-derived data would be responsible for > > their own attribution, so > > you'd need to contact them like with any other site. > > Actually,

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Reporting Attribution Issues on Mapbox maps

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: > > > Webpages not hosted by Mapbox that are > > using Mapbox tiles with > > OSM-derived data would be responsible for > > their own attribution, so > > you'd need to contact them like with any other site. > > Actually,

Re: [Talk-us] Reporting Attribution Issues on Mapbox maps

> Hey -- we've set up a support point for attribution issues on Mapbox > hosted maps. Let us know if you spot something, and we'll work to fix. > > (Note, we won't be handling attribution issues on non-Mapbox hosted maps) > > That's wonderful. All third party mapping providers should have a system

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Reporting Attribution Issues on Mapbox maps

> Hey -- we've set up a support point for attribution issues on Mapbox > hosted maps. Let us know if you spot something, and we'll work to fix. > > (Note, we won't be handling attribution issues on non-Mapbox hosted maps) > > That's wonderful. All third party mapping providers should have a system

Re: [OSM-talk] Gamification in Volunteered Geographic Information in regard with Contributors' Motivations

As someone who was a developer on a gamification of OSM data, I have questions about this study... What are the terms of the study results? Will they be released as Open Science? Thank you, - Serge Wroclawski On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Chen Chen <c226c...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote: &

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

Michal, The client code is proprietary, and the browser is just a platform from which to execute the code. It's similar to running Skype's proprietary binary on Debian. Running a proprietary application on a Free operating system does not change the freedom of the application. -Serge

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

Martijn, I think your approach on this issue is spot on. I personally think that when a project like OSM supports non-Free software, especially ones run by external entities, it sends absolutely the wrong message. Worse still is if we force users to use these gatekeepers to interface with our

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Slack

Martijn, I think your approach on this issue is spot on. I personally think that when a project like OSM supports non-Free software, especially ones run by external entities, it sends absolutely the wrong message. Worse still is if we force users to use these gatekeepers to interface with our

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

Indeed, and bringing this back from a meta-discussion to the practical matters at hand- there are extremely good reasons for human readable changeset comments, and good (and easy) ways to approach encouraging them. The reasons for them are clear- to facilitate the meta-mapping operation- the idea

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

Russ, TIGER wasn't what I was referring to. Please don't speak on my behalf. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: So who decides what is good data and what is bad data? The community as a whole decides what is good and bad data. That starts with the local community and moves up to the OSM community as a whole in terms of whether or

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 5:19 AM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to argue for a general do-not-remove-if-you-do-not-have-the-original-mapper's-ok-beforehand policy for these and similar cases. Then you are (whether or not you intend it) arguing in favor of dis-empowering

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

Russ, Instead of replying to every individual point, I'm going to address your email as a whole, which is around the idea that deletion is different from addition. These discussions are nuanced. Are there going to be things one person can identify that another can't- yes. But at the same time, I

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

Brad, How do I know if there is a razed railway there? That is, if I'm on the ground and there's a building, how do I know it's a razed railway? - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: It's really just a small handful of people who think it's okay not just to delete things, but to counsel other people to delete things. I didn't see it, so I deleted it is a reason for a ban, not an excuse against being

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

Roland, replies in-line On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de wrote: Luckily, in the offline database on my device, the object with name=Köln had a tag name:nl=Keulen. So I know that the sign is referring to my desired destination. Depending on the device

Re: [Talk-us] Removing a CDP

I agree with Rich Welty- if you know the area and the CDP boundary makes no sense, then remove it. The issue in the past has been where some people wanted to remove all of them. - Serge On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I would like to remove

Re: [Talk-us] Removing a CDP

Brad, Thank you for reminding us of what the Census office says that CDPs are. I would just add that CDPs are used in some places as de-facto cities or towns, which is why we've rejected proposals to remove them all. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] New York, Ellis Island Boundary

I agree, the historical boundary should be removed, but we need to be sure to show what's in what state. It's quite a little mess. - Serge On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, puzzled about

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalks

On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 5:29 AM, Roland Olbricht olbri...@mentzdv.de wrote: Dear all, our current pedestrian routers often don't give street names, but instead only instructions like look for the line on the map. To improve that I would like to encourage mappers to give separately mapped

Re: [OSM-talk] iD Security

Mike, Have you filed a bug report on their issue tracker? https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues I quick search didn't reveal anything. https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93q=cookie - Serge On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:39 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] iD Security

Seeing the ticket, I think that the behavior here is what I'd expect it to be, and what I think many people would expect as well. It doesn't seem like this is related to iD ignoring cookies, but about how you were logged into an account and authorized iD to edit on behalf of one of them. I'm not

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging POI's - Nodes vs. areas

Mark, You're correct- there's no set standard here. OSM uses folksonomies which overlap and change over time. Specifically the question of tagging amenties or shops as buildings or nodes is one where we as a community don't have complete consensus. The general feeling in the US from my

Re: [Talk-us] Happy weekend - join the #Mapathon!

Just want to report that the OSM NYC Meetup yesterday went great! It's a shame that I didn't know the weather today would be a so much warmer, but there's no way to plan for things like that weeks in advance... - Serge On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Alex Barth a...@openstreetmap.us wrote:

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

Eleanor, I want to clarify some things: On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Eleanor Tutt eleanor.t...@gmail.com wrote: Paul - If perception of mapping in the US isn't aligning with reality, we probably *do* need to do a better job as a chapter board of telling the full story. I believe that the

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

Russ, Replies in-line. I also mention my work in the DWG, but I'm not representing the DWG here, just reporting on what happened. On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Brad Neuhauser writes: So, is the argument here that we should no longer delete features

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Eleanor Tutt eleanor.t...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Serge. As a member of the chapter board, I feel a bit erased? misrepresented? by your email. It hurt, especially because I think you and I share some common ground about why we map and that it is important to feel

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

Eleanor, I don't see a reason not to be public with my reply to you. I organize mapping parties during the warmer months (have one next week) and during the colder months, organize indoor mapping events. The indoor events tend to get less participants than the outdoor ones, which is surprising.

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: But the map *already* doesn't render abandoned railways, much less razed railways. C'mon, let's not conflate the renderings with OSM. I can understand if someone deletes a railway by hitting the wrong key. I can

Re: [Talk-us] user damages administrative boundaries around Rapid City

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:21 AM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: The last thing that I would want to do is involve the Data Working Group. I'm sending this mail as a DWG member- but I'm only speaking for myself, and not on behalf of the DWG. I don't think most people realize that

Re: [Talk-us] Boundaries and verifiability (was Re: Retagging hamlets in the US)

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Every time this boundary debate or accuracy debate comes up, I image that I am supposed to have $20,000 of GPS equipment[1]; post process the data so that it is accurate; before I dare put the data in OSM. I agree

Re: [Talk-us] Boundaries and verifiability (was Re: Retagging hamlets in the US)

I agree 100% with Bryce. - Serge On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: The nice thing about mapping a neighborhood name as a point feature is: a) It helps people locate the neighborhood b) it completely sidesteps the question of the exact, possibly

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC - Moderation Queue for osm.org

Hi Vidun, Sounds good. If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know. - Serge On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Vidhun k vidhu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am Vidhun doing my bachelors in computer science. I have participated in GSoC last year with PublicLab contributing to the

Re: [OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

Folks, This post doesn't represent the DWG in any way, but as someone who does DWG work, and closely monitors his local area, I think I have a bit of expertise in this area. In my experience, iD users do not make any more mistakes than any other editor in relative terms. In other words- if 80%

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS POI populations

Mihn, If we do any en-mass edit, there are a few things I think we want to consider: 1. Before anything else, we need to make sure it's community approved, source data and code examined and approved by the community. 2. I think that in principle this is a good idea, but we'll also encounter

Re: [Talk-us] Edits near Lexington, KY?

Shawn, My memory is fuzzy but there was a HS class that incorporated OSM in the curriculum in around 2009/2010. It was discussed at the first SOTM US in Atlanta. There were a number of issues with the instructional effort on all sides of the equation. For the school, they felt our tagging

Re: [OSM-talk] 176k Wikidata tags to add to OSM

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Edward Betts edw...@4angle.com wrote: I'm going to continue to refine my results and reduce the number of false positives. Once I'm happy with the list I'll post it here. When we have reached consensus I'll add the Wikidata tags to OSM. I won't upload my

Re: [OSM-talk] Experiences with graphical tablets and JOSM?

I used one briefly. I didn't have the kind where there's an LCD projection- I had a cheap one. It was okay but my experience is that I don't do much drawing in Josm, rather I'm using tools to create objects like boxes and circles, them modifying them- so the pen was more work than using a mouse.

Re: [OSM-talk] discussion: inclusion and alcohol

Olekisy, I think the point about statistics is like your point about alcohol free beer- it misses the point. The question before OSM isn't Do OSM events model the alcoholic consumption trends of the country they're in? nor is the question Are there beverages which taste similar to alchol free

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset comment function

Andy, This is a good question. I'd hoped to write the blog post about the feature before it went live, but it didn't happen. I did end up writing it, and in my blog post, I presented several use case scenarios for it: https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2014/11/02/introducing-changeset-discussions/

Re: [OSM-talk] discussion: inclusion and alcohol

Richard, Yes, it's quite significant. There are many events, eg at SOTM-US where I've felt very uncomfortable both due to alcohol and noise. It's hard to find public places to hold social events that don't serve alcohol, though. While I do drink on occasion (once every 3-4 months), I often

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset comment function

Mikel, Short answer: Not at this time. Longer answer: Yes, that's a good idea for sure. It's something I didn't have on the roadmap, but after just a day of using the feature in real life, I already want it. There are a bunch of other features that would be nice to implement based changeset

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

Hi Kate, Replies in-line. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: I'd say the size of the board to me is not necessarily the issue. I do think however having a board elected completely just from the OSMF membership isn't the best approach. Those elected from

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

Group, the Management Team, the Communications Working Group, the Data Working Group, etc. All of these folks deserve more support and recognition. - Serge On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kate, Replies in-line. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Kate

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

essentially everybody that he had ever had contact with and you in discussion suggested that we simply ignore him. Simon Am 22.10.2014 22:54, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: I want to actually apologize for one mis-statement. Michael Collinson from the MT actually was very good about this and one

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

and then ignored it as I thought I was supposed to do. From a human perspective however I should have talked you. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Simon, The DWG gets a lot of abuse thrown at us, and I think something in Kate's email really spoke

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental validation software

Simon, That's a great point you make, about talking directly with your neighbor. But speaking as someone who had some negative experiences in a similar situation dealing with digitizers (offsite mappers) working for a company- how does one engage a company vs an account? If you are seeing

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental validation software

Simon, So if i understand you right, the answer for a mapper is to find a company representative and work with them? Do we have a list of such representatives and their contact, along with the accounts that work on their behalf? - Serge ___ talk

Re: [diversity-talk] OSM code of conduct: starting points

I'm not arguing for an exception for unacceptable behavior, but I am saying that we need to be cognizant of a few issues: 1. Whereas the Code of Conduct presumes that most behavior is done with full knowledge and intent, we cannot really assume that. We can't assume that if someone is behaving in

Re: [diversity-talk] OSM code of conduct: starting points

I think the right way forward is to focus on directed efforts, rather than try to have a single, unified code of conduct at the start. This is for a few reasons: 1. I tried to create a CoC from the top down in 2010. It didn't work. People don't like top down things imposed upon them. 2. There

Re: [Talk-us] changeset 25081346 spanning contiguous United States

Peter, It's great you reached out to the user. The DWG is really the best place for such complaints/concerns at this point. The email for the DWG is d...@osmfoundation.org I've forwarded your email to the DWG and you should receive a reply about it shortly from a DWG member (most likely

Re: [Talk-us] changeset 25081346 spanning contiguous United States

There is... this is something I'd consider a contentious edit but not *strictly* incorrect. The author of the changeset should have consulted the US/Canadian community before making it, and if he had done so, would have seen that he should have added an operator= or some other tag indicating that

Re: [Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits

Alan, The number of edits a user names is a data point. For some people, it's an important data point, for others it may not be, but it's an interesting piece of information. By analogy, if this were a cyclist organization, I would hope that a board member had experience as a cyclist. The number

Re: [Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org wrote: On Oct 3, 2014, at 08:28, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: It is just one lens through which one might view the candidates. Sure, I get that. I’m just saying it’s at best a meaningless lens, and a misleading

Re: [OSM-talk] A new contributor action to be investigated

Pierre, As the DWG person who is already working on this case, we have said that we are investigating and will take action after our investigation is complete. I will not discuss that investigation on this public forum, but you knew this and decided to send this letter to talk despite this. I am

Re: [OSM-talk] A new contributor action to be investigated

on with the research though. Thanks for that. Cheers, Rafael. On 25/08/14 21:40, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Pierre, As the DWG person who is already working on this case, we have said that we are investigating and will take action after our investigation is complete. I will not discuss

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

Dave, OSM is by far the best free geographic database in the world, but we have anomalies which need to be addressed. MapRoulette helps address these kinds of problems and brings to light errors which might not otherwise be seen or fixed. Many tasks do require local knowledge, but there are also

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

I have some questions about this survey. First of all, you never explain what this survey is for. Is it academic, is it commercial? You mention names of professors, but not institutions. You also never explicitly state what you're studying. Knowing these would put me at ease. Secondly, you don't

Re: [OSM-talk] photon

Easy setup? The previous version required nominatim. What about the current one? On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Christoph Lingg | komoot christ...@komoot.de wrote: Dear all, we want to let you know that we have just released version 0.1 of photon. It is a geocoder based upon elasticsearch,

Re: [Talk-us] Road abbreviations

Toby, Thanks for the pointer. I think you're right that in this case especially, there's no reason to admonish anyone, but perhaps we can examine the data and see if there's a safe way to expand it, like we did the TIGER data. That may also explain some large portion of the contractions I found.

Re: [Talk-us] Road abbreviations

. So if you have expertise in Tilemill, I'd love the help in setting up some tiles that show probable abbreviations. - Serge On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks

Re: [Talk-us] Road abbreviations

they rendered, so in this case, I'd just look for some known contractions at the end. We may change that later, but that's where I'd start. - Serge On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On 7/30/2014 1:45 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: So if you have expertise

Re: [Talk-us] More road name expansion thoughts

On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Here in Washington DC, the street names are all suffixed with the quadrant (NW, SE, SW, NE) the road lies in. The official names of the streets kept by the DC city government all use the contraction. Historically, I

[Talk-us] More road name expansion thoughts

Hi all, After reading about the issues with Scout and problems with name expansion, I decided to do a little thinking on this issue. The short answer is that Scout (as well as other text to speech engines) should not need to be expanding values, ie E - East. The reason for this is that practice

Re: [Talk-us] More road name expansion thoughts

Thanks to all the folks who've commented on this thread and also to the folks who contacted me off list about this. A majority of the feedback I received was very positive, which I'm thankful about. I attribute much of this to the very conservative approach that was taken last time, because there

Re: [Talk-ro] sorein

Strainu, Thank you for your question. The answer to how we handle clones/proxy accounts/sock puppets is quite straightforward. Any account that Sorin creates has the same status for us as the sorein account. How do we determine if an account is a sock puppet? We work with the admin team to

[Talk-ro] sorein

Dragă comunitatea românească, Eu cer scuze în avans, în cazul în care acest e-mail sună ciudat. Eu nu vorbesc limba română și eu sunt, folosind un program de traducere pentru a traduce acest e-mail (originalul este în partea de jos a acestui e-mail). După o deliberare de mult, grupul de lucru de

Re: [Talk-us] How is Scout?

Martijn, How often would this be? If it's once every few months, that might not be so bad, but if it's more frequently, maybe Twitter would be better. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Organizational mapping policy

To elaborate on what Frederik said a bit... The DWG has seen some what we're calling organized mapping which we can generally define as a set of mappers being directed or working on behalf of an organization. The difference between what OSM experienced and what Wikipedia experiences regarding

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed repeated mechanical edit: Empty relations

This seems reasonable to me. With these kinds of objects, there's really no easy way to understand the editor's intent, and figuring that out would very likely be more work that re-doing it. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

CDPs in OSM have been an ongoing issue of discussion for a while. NE2 stated that he would delete them all unless someone could show him a single example of them being useful. I pointed out that Bethesda, MD (noted for being where the NIH and the Naval Medical Academy, along with several other

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

Clifford, I do not like your statement in favor of deleting Bethesda from OSM. - Serge On Jun 11, 2014 4:21 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: however folks may feel about CDPs, they aren't

[Talk-us] Fwd: USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Russ, My opinion is that this is a single data source issue. Unlike other data that we collect, there is nothing in the ground indicating the existence of this as a route. There's no sign indicating where the route is, so there's be no way to collect this data other than by looking at an external

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Steve, On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:34 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: After my talk, Serge and Paul (Norman) had lunch with me, and while they said that they did not represent the DWG, in fact they actually did. Serge characterized this as If a cop pulls you over and says 'I'm going

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Since there is no signage for these routes, this is an import and should be following the import guidelines. - Serge On May 31, 2014 3:19 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: OSM's USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers to help map new APPROVED United States Bicycle Routes. Please

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Ian, OpenTripPlanner can handle routing, which is a pretty core part of handling bus data. OpenTripPlanner can also be fed directly from the GTFS data from the transit authority, which simplifies updates, etc., making a really ideal choice for applications where you want to work with local

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Highly suspicious edit

The DWG moderators can only block accounts on a temporary basis. DWG moderators can't make permanent blocks, or delete spam diary entries, or spam profiles (at least not at this time). The OSMF has only banned a single user AFAIK; Doing that requires intervention from the OSMF board. IME

Re: [OSM-talk] Organizational mapping policy

Kate, You bring up some really excellent questions. Like Frederik, the key that differentiates the organizational mapping is central planning/management. From your email it seems that HOT is involved in various project, some of which would qualify as this organizational mapping, while others

Re: [Talk-us] Sidewalks as footpaths

Being an American has nothing to do with a really bad data design. I've been an American 35 years and I think this is really not a good way to model sidewalks. The problem (aside from the issue of data clutter) is that the sidewalk data can't be used for pedestrian routing because the information

Re: [Talk-us] Sidewalks as footpaths

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:58 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: I've been an American 35 years and I think this is really not a good way to model sidewalks. Ok, serge, well how do you address my

[Talk-us] Fwd: Sidewalks as footpaths

Bill, You're right that we should map what exists on the ground. I think we need to really consider a few factors here: 1. Why we map sidewalks at all (in either style) 2. What benefits one mapping method has over another 3. The data as it exists now 1. Why map sidewalks This is a judgement

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Sidewalks as footpaths

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I'm trying to work out how using name=* on the sidewalks isn't the easiest, most obvious answer. Because there are walking paths with names, and that's not what you're talking about. What you want is essentially a

Re: [OSM-talk] Menufy.com added hundrets of stores with payment:bitcoin=yes, which don't accept Bitcoin

There are two issues here. The first is the accuracy of the data and the second is tagging. For data, we in OSM prefer primary source data That is someone going to a location and verifying the information. We also allow information such as satellite imagery to be used, but again, in this case

Re: [OSM-talk] Menufy.com added hundrets of stores with payment:bitcoin=yes, which don't accept Bitcoin

Andreas, It sounds to me like then it's menufly which offers bitcoin, and not the restaurants themselves. If that's the case, we need to remove these tags. - Serge On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote: Update: /u/dansfloyd (Reddit) who works at Menufy

Re: [OSM-talk] Menufy.com added hundrets of stores with payment:bitcoin=yes, which don't accept Bitcoin

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 3:20 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Or possible tag accepts payment from menufly, (menufly=yes?)there is some added value in the information here. We don't tag any other business information that way. We don't say delivery=grubhub, for example. If we went

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

I have to say that I have very mixed feelings about Burning Man being in OSM. While I think that it's interesting because the event is so large and there's potential utility, there are two things that bring me a bit of concern: 1. Based on past years, the data is added but not deleted. The event

Re: [Talk-us] Last call spring #editathon

As much as I love when people use MapRoulette, OSM NYC will be holding a mapping party this upcoming weekend. - Serge On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Alex Barth a...@openstreetmap.us wrote: This weekend the annual OpenStreetMap spring #editathon takes place in the US. Are you planning to

Re: [OSM-talk] local chapter DWG

Maning, Are you concerned about a specific issue in particular? Is there something that you've complained about that the DWG hasn't acted upon, because I haven't seen any mail from you to the DWG. If there's a specific issue you're concerned about, I think the best step would be to contact the

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Advices on OSM mobile applications for IPhone and Ipad handy for field work in humanitarian contexts

It's not an app but POIPond is a great tool for making/editing POIs quickly and easily. It's a mobile application that runs on pretty much any phone (Android, IOS, Windows Mobile, etc.) - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Vandalism in NYC - reverted

Alex (or anyone else), If you find vandalism like this, please do not email DWG members individually, but instead, you should: 1. Free free to revert it. You do not need permission to do so. 2. Message the user through the OSM message system 3. If you want help, please email

Re: [OSM-talk] No new information on the SOTM since January 2014

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: Why don't we focus on the substance raised, rather than framing everything as Steve sitting around sending volumes of flak your way which let's face it isn't very accurate. I find this statement a bit hard to understand.

Re: [Talk-us] mappy hour tonight, 8:30pm eastern time

Richard asked me to start the hangout. The URL is: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7acpifm4a9c1h4a4l7ef511218?hl=en - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [OSM-talk] Crimea/Russia/Ukraine Borders

The DWG has an OSMF approved process for handling political disputes. There's no reason to start a flamewar about this. - Serge On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I'm curious how OSM handles this dispute. I expect Russia's parliament ratify the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

Alex, Some of the points you continue to make are patently false. 1. There is more open data coming online by the day and we are not compatible Let's take this apart. If the data is open, by which you mean that it would fall into something like the definition of freedomdefined.org, then there

Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

Alex, Some of the points you continue to make are patently false. 1. There is more open data coming online by the day and we are not compatible Let's take this apart. If the data is open, by which you mean that it would fall into something like the definition of freedomdefined.org, then there

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

Indeed, almost no license violation cases make it to court. In the 20 years since the GPL was created, it has gone to court only a handful of times, yet there have been hundreds (maybe thousands) of license violations which have been settled out of court. A court case benefits neither side. It's

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 2:44 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/03/2014, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: On 14.03.2014 23:21, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: There's one fairly obvious to me : the share-alike requirement is necessary to enforce the attribution requirement

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

Norbert, 1. Yes, it would be fair to say that ODbL is much closer to LGPL than it is to GPL. The ODbL does not require Share-Alike merely on combining two datasets, but only if you modify the data that's in OSM in addition to adding your own. 2. Using GPG is good. Using GPG without MIME

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 7:43 AM, o...@k3v.eu wrote: On the flip side of this, if share alike is so great where are the examples of organisations contributing back to OSM because of it? We see this already. I've spoken to companies and orgs who have said specifically that they would not

Re: [Talk-us] FW: Report of Explosion, Building Collapse in Manhattan

I saw smoke from my apartment, but I was going to wait to go over there until the smoke cleared and they'd handled any hazards. - Serge On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Russell Deffner russdeff...@gmail.comwrote: Anyone want to individually figure out the building and update in OSM? =Russ

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