Well folks I went to the movie and saw parts of it; it was much more
disturbing than I had anticipated so I averted my eyes from a lot of it
as
did one of our daughters. It wasviolence from start to finish,
the soundtrack
one of punching, slapping, and whipping and the atmosphere decidedly
Raymond Bothoms hence; you
Got your information from a Jehovah Witness site
http://www.bibletoday.com/htstb/spurious.htm
Are you joining?
Blaine Borrowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Raymond Bothoms is just another one of us good old boys from Utah. By the way, Kevin, where do you live?
These witnesses had no conviction.
The things they "saw" made NO DIFFERENCE in their lives
ALL of the 3 Witnesses APOSTACIZED
(therefore they were witnesses against the power of the BoM)
4 of the eight Apostacied a fifth dying before he had a chanceto, with the last 3 being SMITHS!
More of a
CPL says Kevin, you can stop weeping now...I solved the "mystery". LOL
LOL
Not much of a mystery was it.
How about that it was there in the CONTEXT all the time.
Who would have guessed?
Surely not any LDS who love to pull out 1 verse here 1 verse there
(or even a partial verse as in "gods many
WT says I for one can attest to the fact
See Blaine you need to listen up we have 2 witnesses here William Lance"Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Lance, welcome to the neighborhood. I like what Torrance says. I for one can attest to the fact that it is trulyintimes of deep conflict
HALALUYAH!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: "Blaine Borrowman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blaine: Read this Kevin, and weep: What about the passage in your dearly beloved Bible, that says, (Jesus speaking)
"And other sheep I have , which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they
Just pointing out the Numbers of the verses, the chapter headings, the chapter divisions and anything outside the text of the Word of God are not inerrant.
If we did not have Gods inerrant word someone on this earth he could not hold us responsible for doit what it says.Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I found itdifficult to believe
theRoman soldiers could have acted in the
way they were portrayed which was totallychaotic and out of order,
drinking
on the job, laughing, and whipping him all the way up this steep hill to
Golgotha
with him bloody, staggering, and constantly
JT, that the Pope allegedly said 'it is
as it was' is interesting, eh?
e.g., what if he'd have said(?), 'that
ain't how it happened'
G ~ P 235
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 04:07:06 -0500 Judy
Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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Let God be God and every man a
liar
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Old bible manuscripts are available for scholars to study. Are old
Joe's golden plates available for scholars to study?
vincent j. fulton
On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 21:28:22 -0800 Charles Perry Locke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine, the number of witnesses is impressive...but the book is a
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Just pointing out the Numbers of the verses, the chapter
headings, the chapter divisions and anything outside the text of the
Word of God are not inerrant.
DAVEH: Thank you for pointing that out, Kevin. QuestionWhy do you
think God let those errant chapter headings
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Raymond Bothoms hence; you
Got your information from a Jehovah Witness site
http://www.bibletoday.com/htstb/spurious.htm
DAVEH: Whether or not the author is a JW (or whether the site is JW
related), is the material he offered correct, Kevin? IF it is correct,
would
Judy Taylor wrote:
Well folks I went to the movie and saw parts of it; it was much
more
We nolonger know Jesus after the flesh.
DAVEH: ??? What do you mean by this, Judy?
Last I
heard the movie had already made $200,000.00
DAVEH: Hm..I would think he will make a
Great stuff, Dave H. Sometimes we are much closer
to the truth than we are even aware. Keep it up!
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Dave
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 12:48
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Last words on
Jesus had the same
Kevin Deegan wrote:
VINCE The problem in Mormonism is that you open up again
the Roman and Greek idea of there being many gods, which I believe
would be contrary to Scripture and the cherished teaching of Scripture
that there is only one God.
DAVEH: I don't see it that way at
Wm. Taylor wrote:
Great stuff, Dave H. Sometimes we
are much closer to the truth than we are even aware. Keep it up!
DAVEH: Thanx for the words of encouragement, Bill. However, I must
warn you that saying such may cause a wrath of unkindness to befall you
here in TT.
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Judy Taylor wrote:
Well folks I went to the movie and saw parts of it; it was much
more
We nolonger know Jesus after the flesh.
DAVEH: ??? What do you mean by this, Judy?
jt: I mean that he walked about in the flesh for approximately 33 1/2yrs
and
certain
From: "Jensen, John T" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The
most interesting question to me is how you, as a Protestant,
know:
- what is Scripture (i.e. which
writings are Scripture and which not)
- why it is Scripture (i.e. why those
writings have authority - are
something that you will be
"judged
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
that the Pope allegedly said 'it is as
it was' is interesting, eh?
e.g., what if he'd have said(?), 'that
ain't how it happened'
jt: I wouldn't have expected him to rock
the boatsince the Pope
and Mel Gibson are of
the same
religiousmindset. Both are heavily
From: Graham Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am a Trinitarian. Again, let us not pretend the doctrine
of the Trinity is somehow laid out bare and easy to see in Scripture.
The church reflected for centuries on the topic before advancing to the
views articulated by the Cappadocian Fathers (the Gregories
Judy,
If you will bear with me through a short anecdote,
I will try to spin it into something that explains my fears regarding the
direction in which I see this discussion taking us.
After Augustine the Church went in a decidedly
different direction from where it had been headingprior to
DAVEH: Thank you for pointing that out, Kevin. QuestionWhy do you think God let those errant chapter headings be placed in his presumably inerrant work to mislead folks?
He put it there for Folks like you:
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
IS 8:14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but
I already answered this see other post
This info is in error.
Maybe you two groups (LDS JW) should combine forces and cast dispersion on God's word.
You could call it the "Yea hath God said society"
Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Raymond Bothoms hence; you
Got your
DAVEH: Were you thinking about TTers when you wrote this, Judy?!?!?!? ;-)
God wrote it DaveH!
Read it yourself maybe he was thinking of TTers, especially you unbelievers!
HOLY BIBLE Romans 3 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?Much every way: chiefly,
Wm. Taylor wrote:
So much kindness. I agree.
I love you, my friend, and hope to
show you why in due course.
DAVEH: Thanx for your reply, Bill. I must say that I very much
appreciate your kind and humble way of expressing yourself. I wish you
had been here last year to help
Hi David,
I am not so foolish as to think that I can dissuade
and then persuade with only a couple of short hellos; nor do I believe that the
ultimate judgment in this matter is even mine to make. I am just really, really
in love with our Lord and want to show that love to others, you
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVEH: Thank you for pointing that out, Kevin.
QuestionWhy do you think God let those errant chapter headings be
placed in his presumably inerrant work to mislead folks?
He put it there for Folks like you:
DAVEH: Don't let me put words in your mouth,
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVEH: Were you thinking about TTers when you wrote
this, Judy?!?!?!? ;-)
God wrote it DaveH!
DAVEH: God may have been the author, but Judy posted it.
Read it yourself maybe he was thinking of TTers, especially you
unbelievers!
DAVEH: Ahh Kevin.just
I am sorry, thatI do not fit your little Butter Cup christianity. That is right,I forgot,we are supposed to "prophesy SMOOTH things" I do not want to work thru the things that divide us. I am interested in staying divided heretics on one side christians on the other. Which side are you? The bible
This is turning into heretic talk!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: "Jensen, John T" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The most interesting question to me is how you, as a Protestant, know:
- what is Scripture (i.e. which writings are Scripture and which not)
- why it is Scripture (i.e. why those
Amen Judy
JJ, Where do you draw the line?UNITY with a homosexual church OK?Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: "Jensen, John T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[jj] My question wasn't really just asking for information. It was, ofcourse, a leading question: how do we preserve unity if we disagree?jt:
Which books in the OT?
That is an easy one!
The Jews were the custodians of God's word Romans 3;2
We know what the Jewish cannon contained. It included NO Apocryphal books.
MT 23;35 Jesus said "That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel
Hang in there, Kevin. This is a forum for the
discussion of "religion" too. Like or not, heresy falls under that heading.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 10:30
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Kevin Deegan wrote:
I already answered this see other post
DAVEH: Really??? Is your below comment the post you are referring
to..
Perhaps you should take a second look. take your own advice.
or have you converted to the Jehovah's Witnesses?
Do you visit Jehovah Witness sites
Here is a good one bill
Titus 1 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped,
Wm. Taylor wrote:
Hi David,
I am not so foolish as to think that
I can dissuade and then persuade with only a couple of short hellos;
DAVEH: Ahhh.It is nice to chat with a fellow with some common
sense! I guess the question is whether you feel compelled to try to
The church is the way the truth, you roMAN catHOLICS sound like Mormons!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Graham Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>woops!! sent this accidentally...not finished, so will, with yourindulgence, carry on...In other words, what we think we bring by ourselves to the Bible
Kevin says, "This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them
sharply, that they may be sound in the
faith."
I say: Kevin, I agree with you on this one. In
fact, this is precisely what I did to you earlier today. Is that why you
continue in the soundness of your faith?
Kevin says, "For there
NCV is that one of those gender nuetral Feminized bibles?
God is gender biased, lets fix it. LOL
http://www.cbmw.org/resources/articles/genderneutral.php"Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let everyone see that you are gentle and kind. The Lord is coming soon. Do not worry about anything,
Thanks David
No, I don't have any illusions here. If you are
persuaded by anything I say, you will know who has been whispering in your
ear.
Again, Thanks,
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Dave
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 10:44
PM
Hi Kevin, as to your question. I do not know. I
seldom use this version. I just happen to really like this passage, the way the
New Century Version translates it. As for study, I usually prefer the New King
James Version.
Thanks for asking,
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
No dave you are an unbeliever in God's word
You are not of God. You will not enter in because of UNBELIEF.
You have the spirit of error.
You do not trust Gods word
For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
God's word says your unbelief amounts to
Show me one error.Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
I already answered this see other postDAVEH: Really??? Is your below comment the post you are referring to..
Perhaps you should take a second look. take your own advice.
or have you converted to the Jehovah's Witnesses?
Do
Are you Church of Christ?
That is who put out the NCV"Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Kevin, as to your question. I do not know. I seldom use this version. I just happen to really like this passage, the way the New Century Version translates it. As for study, I usually prefer the New
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVEH: And then he specifically adds Jesus Christ to
his comment as a separate entity. Why would he do that if he weren't
pointing out their differences despite their singleness of purpose?
The scripture says ONE God in the chapter a number of times I
must have
DAVEH: Whether or not the author is a JW (or whether the site is JW related), is the material he offered correct, Kevin? IF it is correct, would that not suggest the Bible is not as inerrant as some TTers have professed? IF his information is not correct, how do you explain it?
Dave below find
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Show me one error.
DAVEH: Hm...have you been reading what Blaine posted, Kevin?
Read to the bottom of this post. You have replied to it several times
now, and it remains pretty much as Blaine posted it. The material
Blaine quoted suggested there are quite a
Kevin,
No, I am not "churches of Christ," although I did
grow up in that denomination.
I did not know that they are the one's who
sponsored this translation, however. Thanks, I've learned some new
here.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL
Kevin Deegan wrote:
How do you interpret the scriptures I cited?
DAVEH: Just like you do, except I'm viewing it from the other side of
the fence, Kevin. And guess who I see when I peer over it.
Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: Thank you for pointing that
Kevin Deegan wrote:
The church is the way the truth, you roMAN catHOLICS sound like
Mormons!
DAVEH: What are you trying to do, Kevin.make the RCC folks feel
bad!?!?!?! :-\
Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From:
Graham Budd
woops!!
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~~~
Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote:
No dave you are an unbeliever in God's word
You are not of God. You will not enter in because of UNBELIEF.
DAVEH: Until I heard Steve Brown's broadcast, I believed Paul wrote
Hebrews. Now some TTers are in agreement with SB and are suggesting
the headers may be
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