Charles Perry Locke wrote:
If I may add a comment, there is a difference between reformation
and restoration. The protestant movement was a reformation...JS'
movement was a restoration. I see them as quite different.
DAVEH: I understand that, Perry. I'm trying to figure out why they
went
DAVEH: I hope you don't mind my intrusion, John. First.welcome to
TT and this thread.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with "person" (and I have used this many more times than
once) gives us the impression that know what God looks like.
DAVEH: Does not the Bible suggest what
If only Judas could have endured one more moment?Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote: DAVEH: Sinners.yes. Lost?.Can one be lost if he endures to the end? YESDAVEH: Now let me ask you, Terry.Do you believe one can be saved if he does not endure to the end?--
Back in the old days, before computers to zip out copies. There were companies that printed forms. Sometimes forms would have a sort of part number. Would the form number printed on the bottom of the form, be legally binding? Would the form number be part of the terms of a contract?Dave [EMAIL
I don't care what you call the rock.
The verse says the gates of hell will not prevail against the church
Thye other verse teaches the church will exist througout ALL AGES
Jesus must be mistaken because you know there was a TOTAL Apostacy
shortly after the last apostle died there were no more
- Original Message -
From: Lance Muir
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 10, 2004 06:11
Subject: David: Not a question but another quotation..
"Theological statements operate with what we may
call open concepts-concepts which, to be sure, must be closed on our side, for
we have
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Therefore, using the Jewish calendar, the first day of the month was
always a new moon and the middle of the month was the full moon.
It really is that simple. The problem is that you do not believe me,
so study some history about calendars like Blaine has
John wrote:The
problem with "person" (and I have used this many more times than once)
gives us the impression
that know what God looks like.
DAVEH: Does not the Bible suggest what God looks like when we
are told Jesus is in his express image? (He 1:3) It seems
logical to
me that the Son
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What I do find curious though is why you feel the Bible is inerrant,
when you apparently aren't even sure who penned parts of it. Who
do you think wrote Hebrews, Kevin? DavidM thought you might
possibly think Paul did so, but I would like to hear your thoughts
What does the verse say dave? Try reading it real slow.
what does the word UNTILmean?
whom (Jesus) heaven must recieve UNTIL the times of restitution of all things.
Jesus is in heaven UNTIL
Are you claiming JOe restored ALL things?
Then where are the "LOST" books of the Bible?
Instead of
Welcome to TT John Smithson, you write in part:
"I am educated by the Word; I am entertained by
history."
Truly wisdom from above,
judyt
God allows the devil to raise up hereticsto make his people
study
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated
3/9/2004 5:11:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
So many questions and controversies over doctrine?
That is why we need JoE?
Seems to me with over 200 offshoots of the Branches of the RESTORATION, something has gone seriously wrong!Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
True Christianity wasNEVER lost
Mt 16:18 And I say also unto
Who did the RC Church burn during the dark ages?
Bible believing christians were never in short supply for torches
You are totally leaving out the Waldenses, Anabaptists Albigenses
How do they fit in your scheme of things?
Why did they keep getting slaughtered?
Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up [Greek, harpazo]together with them in the clouds, to meet the LORD in the air: and so shall we ever be with the LORD" 1Thessalonians 4:17"I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of
Wm. Taylor wrote:
, I don't have a problem with it
myself, but I'm not all pruned up about this
it-has-to-come-from-the-bible stuff. What about you who are? Is that a
true and accurate statement concerning Jesus Christ?
Bill Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 21:33:32
-0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
..the rapture..
is thisbiblical wording
now; what verse?
G
~ P 235
Naw,G.
He wascommunicating to the other members of the Godhead
TheTRI - part being created man in His image, as a TRI part being (1)Body, (2)soul (3)spirit
1Thes 5 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming
There is no defense of a book (BoM) that has been changed countless times.
The book has been tampered with, it has been cooked.
There are no extant copies of the source documents. No BoM sites, NO BoM peoples names recorded in any history, places or documents secular or otherwise.
It was the
1 Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times SOME shall DEPART from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Not all just some.
Seems to me JoE was a prime candidate for this.
He joined left the methodist church
he was seduced by a "angelic"
a. No syntactics contains its own semantics b.
Language, like mathematics is a symbolic system c. Do the "symbols" themselves
contain the truth(meaning) or, do they point away from themselves to the
"meaning" we all seek? Lance Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To:
DAVEH: Does not the Bible suggest what God looks like when we are told Jesus is in his express image? (He 1:3) It seems logical to me that the Son would look similar to his Father.
For eons without end (for eternity past) Jesus did look like he Father.
JN 1 IIn the beginning was the Word, and
DAVEH:
Do you recognize/accept the Trinity Doctrine? To me, the word
doctrine means a set of principles, something concrete to use as a
measuring device. I am not sure that I can describe the trinity and do
justice. Your idea of one in purpose is clearly included, but I think
Bill and Kevin
William shies away from "biblicists" whatever that is.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a. No syntactics contains its own semantics b. Language, like mathematics is a symbolic system c. Do the "symbols" themselves contain the truth(meaning) or, do they point away from themselves to the
. I am educated by the Word; I am
entertained by history.
Grace
John Smithson
===
What a great line Is that original? Can I steal it?
Terry
Everyone of us speaks from a "tradition" and words
mean things. Why not revisit this whole discussion as it took place in the 4th
century by such as Athanasius, Cyril, Gregory and yes,another Gregory
(Nazianzus Nyssa)-the Capadocians. Lance
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Again, this is not an issue I hang my salvation on. I am actually
"pan-trib"...however it pans out!
Hey Perry. That's my view on the tribulation too. I just never
knew what to call it before. Many thanks
I would like to hear (read) your post-tribulational
From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Everyone of us speaks from a "tradition" and words
mean things.
Why not revisit this whole discussion as it took
place in the 4th century
by such as Athanasius, Cyril, Gregory and
yes,another Gregory
(Nazianzus Nyssa)-the Capadocians.
Lance
jt: But
Everyone of us speaks from a "tradition" and words mean things. Why not revisit this whole discussion as it took place in the 4th century by such as Athanasius, Cyril, Gregory and yes,another Gregory (Nazianzus Nyssa)-the Capadocians. Lance
It is just a matter of whether your tradition is the
I read your post:
Gal 4;30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture?
Search the scriptures
Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
2 Tim 3;16 All scripture
Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a. No syntactics contains its own semantics
b. Language, like mathematics is a symbolic system
c. Do the "symbols" themselves contain the truth(meaning) or, do
they point away from themselves to the "meaning" we all seek?
Lance
God's word is not a
If it is a contract with the government, yes. Certain forms are required,
and without the proper form number, are not acceptable. BUt probably not in
civil matters between two contracting parties.
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
"Truth is a Person" AMEN11However, how then does
one account for this cacaphony (look it up if you don't know it) of voices. The
Word of God + One indwelt by the Spirit of God =??Well, what it equals is this
conversation! Does someone out there see that? A little less hyperbole, a little
Hi Terry, I am not suggesting that anything other
than Scripture is revelatory, neither are there other sources of truth comparable to the Bible. I am saying
thattrue statements can come from sources other than the Bible.
"Truth is aPerson" is a great little quote. The first time your
John Smithson wrote:
I am educated by the Word;
I am entertained by history.
Judy wrote:
Truly wisdom from above
Terry wrote:
What a great line Is that original?
Can I steal it?
Why is it that those who say such things always seem to be those who are
least educated in history? I
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not suggesting that anything other than
Scripture is revelatory,
neither are there other sources of truth comparable to the Bible.
I am saying thattrue statements can come from
sources other than the Bible.
"Truth is aPerson" is a great little
Yes, Lance, yes, yes, yes. This is what I'm getting
at.
Bill Taylor
- Original Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:12
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk]
Re:Language-Including "The Bible"
a. No syntactics contains
From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Truth is a Person" AMEN11
However, how then does one account for this
cacaphony (look it up if you
don't know it) of voices.
jt: I know what the word 'cacaphony' means Lance,
this is what goes on
in hell.
lm: The Word of God + One indwelt by the
Perry wrote:
I must say that I am in the same camp as Kevin
with respect to not seeing Mel Gibson's movie.
My position is that it is not the Passion...
it is an RCC commentary about the Passion.
That's like arguing that Kevin's posts on TruthTalk are a Baptist
commentary about Jesus Christ
Lance wrote:
Language, like mathematics is a symbolic system
... Do the symbols themselves contain the
truth(meaning) or, do they point away from
themselves to the meaning we all seek?
Excellent point, Lance. Language is not truth, but it helps point us to
the meaning that we all seek.
From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Again, this is not an issue I hang my salvation on. I am actually
pan-trib...however it pans out!
*Hey Perry. That's my view on the tribulation too. I just never knew what
to call it
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]John Smithson
wrote: I am educated by the Word; I am entertained by
history.Judy wrote: Truly wisdom from above
Terry wrote: What a great line Is that original?Can
I steal it?
Why is it that those who say such things always seem to be those
who
Kevin Deegan wrote:
There is no defense of a book (BoM) that has been changed
countless times.
The book has been tampered with, it has been cooked.
There are no extant copies of the source documents. No BoM
sites, NO BoM peoples names recorded in any history, places or
documents
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Lance
wrote: Language, like mathematics is a symbolic system ... Do
the "symbols" themselves contain the truth(meaning) or, do they point
away from themselves to the "meaning" we all seek?
Excellent point, Lance. Language is not truth, but it helps
David Miller wrote:
The problem is that you do not believe me,
so study some history about calendars like
Blaine has and you too will understand.
Judy wrote:
You must be behind on your reading David because
this thread is resolved; I disagree with you on
some other issues but this is not
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Please hear me out before ousting me.
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:39:41 -0500
Perry wrote:
I must say that I am in the same camp as Kevin
with respect to not seeing Mel Gibson's movie.
In a message dated 3/10/2004 4:18:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Welcome to TT John Smithson, you write in part:
"I am educated by the Word; I am entertained by history."
Truly wisdom from above,
judyt
Hi judyt: i am thinking we agree. Right?
God bless and I am
Perry wrote:
Actually, we know the order is true despite what
falling away may mean, right? Paul is laying out
the order. The falling away happens, then the man
of sin is revealed, then the Lord comes.
Now, if one takes falling away to mean a falling
away of the faithful from the faith,
In a message dated 3/10/2004 5:21:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: I hope you don't mind my intrusion, John. First.welcome to TT and this thread. it is great to speak with you
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with "person" (and I have used this many
The Word of God stands sure!
IS 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
1 Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
1 Co 16;13 Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong.
2 Thes
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]You and Kevin
mocked me and raked me over pretty good for this very mundane point of fact that
I kept saying was very simple. It seems to me that both you and Kevin
should apologize and clearly state that you were wrong on this point.
jt: FTR I did
Lance says A little less hyperbole, a little less certainty, might go a long way.
You may be uncertain, I KNOW in WHOM I have Believed and KNOW that He is Able to perform that which He has promised!
Take the BIBLE test:
2 Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own
DavidM says: The truth is that history is a body of knowledge from which all of usinterpret and understand truth, including truth found in the Bible.
I do not interpret the truth of the bible through the lense of history. I interpret history through the lens of TRUTH the HOLY BIBLE.
Why should I
Joseph Smith, Jr., The Holy Scriptures, Translated and Corrected by the Spirit of Revelation, by Joseph Smith, Jr. the Seer ... Plano, Illinois: Published by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Joseph Smith, I.L. Rogers, E. Robinson, Publishing Committee, 1867.
This version was
Something has gone horibly wrong the man that preaches UNITY is now going to distance himself or "SEPARATE" from the one who preaches separation. Isn't that a hoot!David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Judy wrote: It would have saved a lot of misunderstanding if you could have explained as simply
Kevin wrote:
Something has gone horibly wrong the man that
preaches UNITY is now going to distance himself
or SEPARATE from the one who preaches separation.
Isn't that a hoot!
You apparently have never understood my teaching about unity and
separation, but hey, maybe from your perspective
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Please hear me out before ousting me.
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:21:56 -0500
Perry wrote:
Kevin's posts may indeed be Baptist commentary, but
If the Baptists agree with scripture then, by all means,
lets read Kevin's commentary.
I
The word used here for one is ECHAD, Hebrew/Chaldee Lexicon To
The Old
Testament, (echad) means, "to unite, to join together, to be in
unity."
in other words "Compound United oneness"
echad is a uniplural adjective describing several items in one
unit or
group or
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/
Greetings in the Matchless NameofYahShua!!
So much banter on the calendar.
There are those who believe that the moon is new when it is full.
Their numbers are growing significantly. Yes, they are wrong ... but that
is nothing new.
One writes that the first month is
epistemological
Hey Vince. He's doing it again.
Terry
Wm. Taylor wrote:
Hi Terry, I am not suggesting that
anything other than Scripture is revelatory, neither are there other sources of truth comparable to
the Bible. I am saying thattrue statements can come from
sources other than the Bible. "Truth is aPerson" is a great little
Does that mean you would have been in the Coliseum
cheering as Christians were being fed to the Lions? That is history. Is that the
kind of entertainment you are looking for?
. I am educated by
the Word; I am entertained by history. Grace
John Smithson
Powerful, David, Preach it!
- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:24 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] The value of history
John Smithson wrote:
I am educated by the Word;
I am entertained by history.
Judy wrote:
jt wrote If they were kept in their place it would not be so
bad, but
when they are used as a grid through which to determine
God's truth they become a problematic.
I reply Judy, Don't you get it? When we
say, "Truth is a Person," we are already accepting, without reservations, the
grid
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jt wrote If they were kept in their
place it would not be so bad, but
when they are used as a grid through which to determine
God's truth they become a problematic.
I reply Judy, Don't you get it? When we
say, "Truth is a Person,"
we are already
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/
Greetings in the Matchless NameofYahShua!!
If we were to "level the playing field" and agree to discuss
this subject sola Scriptura (from Scripture only), using only
Scriptural words, this discussion would be much easier. Is that such an
unreasonable request to
In a message dated 3/10/2004 12:01:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JS'
What is JS
John -- the new guy
You are too much for me, Judy. I can't help
you.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:37
PM
Subject: [TruthTalk]
Re:Language-Including "The Bible"
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jt wrote
Gesundheit !! :)
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:58:46 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
epistemological
Hey Vince. He's doing it again.
Terry
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man. (Colossians
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bill seems to grasp the idea that we would be better off learning to
synthesize our viewpoints together into a complete whole, where perhaps a
synergy might develop through such mutual cooperation.
vince:
Most people call that ecumenism. I see no
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:48:57 -0600 Chris Barr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
By the way, Indian is an inaccurate word to describe the indigenous
peoples of the western hemisphere commonly called the Americas.
My handy, dandy Webster's dictionary tells me that, in this context,
the word
In a message dated 3/10/2004 5:21:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 04:08:49 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jesus must be mistaken because you know there was a TOTAL Apostacy
shortly after the last apostle died there were no more christians on
earth.
vince:
God always preserves a remnant who are His people: 1 Kings
In a message dated 3/10/2004 5:26:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What a great line Is that original? Can I steal it?
Terry
Yes but can have it --- send the anticipated revenues to my worship therapist - I am musically challenged. It is so bad that on one occasion,
In a message dated 3/10/2004 6:17:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A little less hyperbole, a little less certainty, might go a long way. When you equate your statement(s) of the truth with the Truth Himself you're already moving away from the Truth. Lance
By this phrase
In a message dated 3/10/2004 6:27:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kevin has made several arguments about how the Book of Mormon has no
historical basis and therefore should not be trusted. If we accept the
idea that history has entertainment value but not educational
In a message dated 3/10/2004 6:42:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perry wrote:
I must say that I am in the same camp as Kevin
with respect to not seeing Mel Gibson's movie.
My position is that it is not "the Passion"...
it is an RCC commentary about "the Passion".
David Miller wrote:
The truth is that history is a body of knowledge
from which all of us interpret and understand truth,
including truth found in the Bible.
Kevin wrote:
I do not interpret the truth of the bible
through the lense of history. I interpret
history through the lens of
I also think you do not understand the bible teaching on separationDavid Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin wrote: Something has gone horibly wrong the man that preaches UNITY is now going to distance himself or "SEPARATE" from the one who preaches separation. Isn't that a hoot!You
In a message dated 3/10/2004 12:45:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does that mean you would have been in the Coliseum cheering as Christians were being fed to the Lions? That is history. Is that the kind of entertainment you are looking for?
If I left the list without
Amen Amen Amen
Thanks for the scriptures.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 04:08:49 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: Jesus must be mistaken because you know there was a TOTAL Apostacyshortly after the last apostle died there were no more christians onearth.vince:God
John Smithson wrote:
Wow -- David my friend Where have you gone?
I was referencing spiritual truth more than anything
when I made my statement I am educated by the Word,
I am entertained by history.Entertainment includes,
in this case, the joy and validation I feel when
ROTFL
Exactly!
The bible never tells us to find areas of commonality. Find Truth let the chips fall where they may.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bill seems to grasp the idea that we would be better off learning tosynthesize our viewpoints together into a
David Miller wrote:
Bill seems to grasp the idea that we would be better
off learning to synthesize our viewpoints together
into a complete whole, where perhaps a synergy might
develop through such mutual cooperation.
Vince wrote:
Most people call that ecumenism.
No, you aren't hearing
Jesus said I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life
He did not sayI know the way, He said HeIS the Way, IS the Truth.
The TRUTH PERSONIFIED!
TRUTH manifest in the Flesh.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jt wrote If they were kept in their place it would not
Hi everyone. This is funny to me but , I sat down, opened all the mail from this list, post three or four replies and emptied my mail box. I immedicately exited the email and re-entered just to see if anything had post while I working on your (you all) articles. THERE WERE 20 new emails. Man oh
This is the core of the problem, you are essentially a Mormon in sheeps clothing.
JN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
JN 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself;
What will take the place of denominations?
Has there ever been a time on earth without "denominations"?David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Miller wrote: Bill seems to grasp the idea that we would be better off learning to synthesize our viewpoints together into a complete whole, where
DavidM says I already accept the Bible as an authority for truth
What are the other "authorities"?
David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perry wrote: Actually, we know the order is true despite what "falling away" may mean, right? Paul is laying out the order. The falling away happens, then the
In a message dated 3/10/2004 3:21:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Answer this and maybe I can
better understand where you are coming from.
Look, I think we are having a semantics problem here more than anything. In its context, I stand by what I said. Now, if the context
In a message dated 3/10/2004 3:47:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What will take the place of denominations?
In the Bible there is the church local and the church universal but exactly where is the church denominational?
Has there ever been a time on earth without
Let me ask you this, John. Do you think we can better understand truth
and life through a knowledge of history? Answer this and maybe I can
better understand where you are coming from. One thing for sure, what
you said struck a chord of resonance with others here, so maybe there is
http://www.inter-islam.org/faith/dajjal.htm
But I will tell you something which no Prophet has told his people.Verily he (Dajjal) is one-eyed and Allah is not one-eyed.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0953327515/103-4075416-0637422?v=glance
For some reason god thought it
Blaine: Kevin is right about the apostacies,
wrong about the credibility of the witnessing. The 12 men never denied
their testimonies, even after they had apostasized. Most, including two of
the three witnesses who saw the angel, repented, and rejoined the LDS Church
after it had moved to
In a message dated 3/10/2004 4:23:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine: Kevin is right about the apostacies, wrong about the credibility of the witnessing. The 12 men never denied their testimonies, even after they had apostasized. Most, including two of the three
What do you get if you've done both?
- Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:15
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The value of
history
Let me ask you this, John. Do you think we can better understand
You seem to know a quite a bit about the
Restoration denomination, John. Where did you pick this up?
Bill
Here's a history lesson.
Oliver Cowdry was a teacher and, for a time, a participant
in the Campbell/Stone movement (early 1800's).. Since I do not
believe that Mormon "truth" is
I think I figured it out. Some wise ass who thinks
he knows it all.
- Original Message -
From:
Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:30
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The value of
history
What do you get if you've done both?
Just kidding, just kidding.
- Original Message -
From:
Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:37
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The value of
history
I think I figured it out. Some wise ass who
thinks he knows it all.
Wm. Taylor wrote:
What do you get if you've done both?
Judging from what they are teaching in college these days, I would
suspect that you would get a lot of conflicting information.
Terry
Let me ask you this, John. Do you think we can better understand truth
ROTFLOLWelcome to TT, a hotbed of religious discussion!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone. This
is funny to me but , I sat down, opened all the mail from this list,
post three or four replies and emptied my mail box. I immedicately
exited the email and re-entered just to see if
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