Re: [TruthTalk] Moderator Report

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/15/2005 11:02:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: lol (what's 9648x2x666?) :-) J

Re: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/15/2005 9:54:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- slade The ad honimen rule is one who no that has been invoked before. DAVEH: Hey John..I fully concur. Nowplease explain what it means so I can decide whether or not to retract my

Re: [TruthTalk] Ye are gods

2005-01-16 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Your explanation is the best I've heard from your side of the fence, DavidM. Thank you again. David Miller wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: ... how do you explain that judges would have been originally construed to be gods? Why not just leave it as judges, or perhaps use

Re: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/15/2005 9:54:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- slade The ad honimen rule is one who no that has been invoked before. DAVEH: Hey John..I fully concur.

Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:55:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is NOT, read NOT intended as an insult JD Tradition and God's Word do not mix and they do not blend they are like oil and water. I am aware that this is not a politically correct thing to say but no

Re: [TruthTalk] Moderator Report

2005-01-16 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: You've made an obvious miscalculation, G. Try 1.7027027027027027027027027027027 X 666 and then stand on your head. Hint.read it in a FIXEDSYS font, or hand write the answer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lol (what's 9648x2x666?) On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:48:49 -0800 Dave

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/15/2005 3:01:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a thought (it just occurred to me). We're waiting for a time when all Israel will be saved. Could it be that Messiah's death is the sacrifice delivered once for all Israel... a communal sacrifice like

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/15/2005 2:54:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: Three hits Gregory - Unity will happen when we are all saying the same thing which unfortunately is not a reality right now. We used to sing Ps 133 at a Church I went to.. Behold how good and how pleasant

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/15/2005 2:47:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me restate the question with the proper inflection Could it be that Messiah's death is the sacrifice delivered once for all of Israel... a communal sacrifice like the Yom Kippur service? -- slade

Re: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/15/2005 2:26:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have talked about this before. You are following a terrible translation here. Romans 3:23 says, "For all have sinned..." The word sinned here is aorist indicative active. It means past tense. It then

RE: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
I believe God allowed for ad hominem. You vipers! You hypocrites! I think those may have even been swear words back then, too. Sorry David, but you haven't changed my mind...there is a big difference between government and babysitting. And TT Moderation is not government, IMO. Kay -Original

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:49:03 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/15/2005 3:01:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Just a thought (it just occurred to me). We're waiting for a time when all Israel will be saved. Could it be that Messiah's death is

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Conference hosted by Dave Hansen?

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
Hehehe Still way too far and way too long. It would take us four days to get there, plus four days back. Slade gets ten days vacation per year. There's no way I'm traveling for four straight days, hanging for two days and doing it all over againwith or without kids! You guys have

Re: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread Jeff Powers
So now TT has become a DICTATORSHIP. Whats next mass crucifixions of the dissenting members? I would almost be in favor of it, except, I know from my time on here that several ppl are protected and can be as asinine as they choose and get away with it. While others get pounced on for minor

RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
It will happen. Anyone one to bet? It's already happened. This is the issue I had with David. The words said do not matter as much to me as to David. I hear the tone behind the words far better than David does while he sees the words used far better than I. When I tried to speak with

RE: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
Again, it's a matter of perspective, Jeff. An infraction to one is not an infraction to another. Also, we give more leeway to those we understand [or THINK we understand] than those with a different theological slant. -- slade P.S. Don't use the asinine word again. I think it might be taboo...

RE: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
Just had to do this:as·i·nine ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-nn)adj.Utterly stupid or silly: asinine behavior.Of, relating to, or resembling an ass.[Latin asinnus, of an ass, from asinus,

RE: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now *REPRIMAND*

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
C'mon, Kay... You did this on purpose. KNOCK IT OFF!!! -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Slade HensonSent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 09.11To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For you on TT who might have an evangelical bent, the following might be of interest. I did not copy the speech itself, given in the Salt Lake City Tabernacle on January 14, 2005, which can be found on http://www.beliefnet.com/story/156/story_15656_1.html in case you are interested. It

Re: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread Jeff Powers
I also have to comment on Davids mention of LAW. Considering that most here reject God's Law, you are all a bunch of Lawless individuals, so why do we now need the "Laws of David"? It's obvious that no one here is obedient to God (I include myself) as He expects it, so what makes anyone

RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
I especially likes these two portions: We have not been afraid to argue strenuously with each other, but our arguments have been conducted in a sincere desire genuinely to understand each other—and in the process we have formed some deep bonds of friendship. Something lacking on TT. I don't

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If we keep God's commandments as far as we understand them, and live each day as if there will be no tomorrow, we will have no problems when we are called up to meet our maker. This will be true whether we are LDS, evangelical Protestant, Catholic, Jew, Muslim, or whatever. Greater love

RE: [TruthTalk] Taboo?!??

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
J Well, I was going to say, when you are shaving, look down and behind, and if theres any dust therethats it! Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Powers Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:35 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] Taboo?!??

2005-01-16 Thread Jeff Powers
:) - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:31 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Taboo?!?? J Well, I was going to say, when you are shaving, look down and behind, and if there’s any dust

RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:42 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation In a message dated 1/15/2005 12:44:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Conference hosted by Dave Hansen?

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
2) Buy one first class air ticketand let Izzy bring your kids in her car. I think NOT. J Izzy (My car will be full of MY critters!)

RE: [TruthTalk] What is Unity?

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
A good man you are if you have a cat in your lap. (I am a cat!) J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:12 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is Unity? In a

Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Jeff Powers
Izzy, I am not a part of this discussion, but I AM INSULTED BY IT. Maybe John was also. Jeff - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:37 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

RE: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- So now TT has become a DICTATORSHIP. Whats next mass crucifixions of the dissenting members? I would almost be in favor of it, except, I know from my time on here that several ppl are protected and can be as asinine as they choose and get away with

RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thats your choice. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Powers Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:40 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation Izzy, I am not a part of this discussion, but I AM

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/16/2005 5:33:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have all been sanctified by an offering once and for all [time]. Heb 10:10. Done deal. Case Closed (in the words of the Money Slut -- Gerald Posner). John Only IF/WHEN we come to it and let go of what

Re: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/16/2005 6:02:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's already happened. This is the issue I had with David. The words said do not matter as much to me as to David. I hear the tone behind the words far better than David does while he sees the words used

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/16/2005 7:20:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My thinking exactly...which is why I ask Dave H. what he believes...not what others claim he believes. Why is that others know his beliefs more than he does? This is an excellent point. there are those who

RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
When one thinks I focus on Tradition instead of Scripture, I guess I should just laugh it off and say, "Hahahaha, great joke!" I'm going it ignore the hits when they come my way. After all, Messiah saidI amto turn the other cheek and He was NOT referring to actual physical strikes.

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/16/2005 7:29:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we keep God's commandments as far as we understand them, and live each day as if there will be no tomorrow, we will have no problems when we are called up to meet our maker. This will be true whether we

Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/16/2005 7:38:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: Possibly because you appear to be focused in/on tradition right now and I study God's Word (just a guess on my part) Possibly an insult. (just a guess on my part). JD, why must you keep

Re: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology

2005-01-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hmm, I differ in my interpretation of high places. It means people who occupy positions of high visibility, usually in government jobs, but could also be those in teaching, clerics, etc. who are able to influence others by setting the pace, or setting the example for others to follow. A

Re: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/15/2005 2:26:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sin as a noun, meaning the sin principle of the flesh is with us as long as we are in this flesh, but this is not the same thing as saying that there is no time we can say that we do not continue to sin.

RE: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
We are not to sacrifice to the false gods in high places... i.e., the tops of hills, etc. Read about Bilam and the attempted cursing of the Sons of Yisrael in Numbers. -- slade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday,

Re: [TruthTalk] The two sticks; was: Mormon Related #2

2005-01-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perry, I read the article at the reference given--in fact, I read it several times. My considered judgement is that it is one man's opinion, which he has a right to, but by no means the final word. There were some facts that lent credibility to what the man wanted to say, plus some

Re: [TruthTalk] Definition of Mormon Please

2005-01-16 Thread Charles Perry Locke
DaveH wrote: Does that clear up your misunderstanding of how the LDS perceive resurrection? No, but it clears of my understanding of how LDS misperceive the resurrection. None of it is Biblical...all from the musings of a man, Joseph Smith. The only thing Biblical about Joseph Smith is that

Re: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Just thinking out loud, Jeff. :-) Jeff Powers wrote: Or maybe the renegade, rebellious biker DAVEH: Sounds like somebody familiar with the right cause DAVEH: Jesus is always the right cause but the wrong methods? DAVEH: Some think Mormonism meets

RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
It's already happened. This is the issue I had with David. The words said do not matter as much to me as to David. I hear the tone behind the words far better than David does while he sees the words used far better than I. When I tried to speak with others about the tone (even the implied

RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
It is funny that you think I am the one who stirrs the pot when it was Judy who made the statement. LOL Jd And you appointed yourself to notify Slade that he was insulted. Good job, JD. Izzy

[TruthTalk] What I believe...............and what I do not believe

2005-01-16 Thread Terry Clifton
What I believe.and what I do not believe A while back, John, my brother in Christ, articulated what his beliefs are. He had reached the point, he felt, that he had separated the wheat from the chaff and had a firm grip on what Christianity was for him.

Re: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread Terry Clifton
Jeff Powers wrote: I also have to comment on Davids mention of LAW. Considering that most here reject God's Law, you are all a bunch of Lawless individuals, so why do we now need the "Laws of David"? It's obvious that no one here is obedient to God (I include myself) as He

RE: [TruthTalk] What I believe...............and what I do not believe

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
The oracles of God from a man of God. (Jonathan take note.) Izzy . I believe that I am not a Baptist, or a Catholic., or even a protestant. I do not claim to be an

RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
You got the order wrong, but nice try blaming JD for my sin. -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 12.59To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Private

RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
I appreciate you nonetheless, Izzy. Humbling is what one needs most. However,I still think one moderator is all that's needed. One Moderator. One Owner. --slade -Original Message-From:ShieldsFamilySent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 12.57Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium

RE: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Ephesians 5 1(A)Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; 2and (B)walk in love, just as Christ also (C)loved [a]you and (D)gave Himself up for us, an (E)offering and a sacrifice to God as a (F)fragrant aroma. 3But (G)immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named

RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
I respectfully disagree. J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:23 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority I appreciate you nonetheless,

Re: [TruthTalk] What I believe...............and what I do not believe

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/16/2005 10:02:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I believe.and what I do not believe A while back, John, my brother in Christ, articulated what his beliefs are. He had reached the point, he felt, that he had separated the

Re: [TruthTalk] What I believe...............and what I do not believe

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/16/2005 10:02:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I believe.and what I do not believe A while back, John, my brother in Christ, articulated what his beliefs are. He had reached the point, he felt, that he had separated the

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-16 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
Unity is the show of love DESPITE not saying the same thing in the theological details, because on the main issue of following Christwe are saying the same thing. It is not a rational or scriptural goal to aspire to get everyone to agree with ones self. The goal, rather, should be to live

RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
To which do you disagree? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 13.25To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority I

Re: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
Explain, please! Gregory A. Hession J.D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Springfield, Mass. - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:34 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef Avram and Yosef, Yeshiva*

RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
I understand now why you disagree. No need to respond. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Slade HensonSent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 13.55To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the

Re: [TruthTalk] What I believe...............and what I do not believe

2005-01-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/16/2005 10:02:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe that I am not a Baptist, or a Catholic., or even a protestant. I do not claim to be an Armenian or a Calvinist or any other thing except a follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. If you must put me in

Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
What is the Talmud Slade? Did you say yesterday that you had a paper to write on the Talmud? jt On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:24:16 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When one thinks I focus on Tradition instead of Scripture, I guess I should just laugh it off and say, "Hahahaha,

Re: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
You are "stirring the pot" here John, that just didn't need to be said.. On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:26:17 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/16/2005 7:38:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:jt: Possibly because you appear to be focused in/on tradition

Re: [TruthTalk] Potty Talk

2005-01-16 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
I agree with Judy. Our words should be edifying, which is interpreted in cultural context. If we use vulgar words to shock, or merely carelessly, it shows our tongue is still a fire. Gregory A. Hession J.D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Springfield, Mass. - Original Message - From:

[TruthTalk] Potty Talk

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]I believe God allowed for ad hominem. "You vipers!" "You hypocrites!" Ithink those may have even been swear words back then, too. Respectfully disagree. Jesus may have looked like us but he sure didn't act like us.The above were statements of fact and

Re: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread Lance Muir
Some 'creative' expressions that may be employed in the place of 'taboo's': 1. non-discretionary fragrance 3. previously owned prose 4. ethically disoriented Please feel free to add to the list. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

RE: [TruthTalk] Potty Talk

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
In the future, please be careful to credit the person with the words they write. This is the second time in a week I've been "quoted" saying someone else's words. I, for one, care deeply for passion. Many discussions over Scripture are passionate -- whether it's mine, my opponent, or

RE: [TruthTalk] Private Interpretation *REPRIMAND*

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
The *naner-naner* needs to stop. As I stated in a previous email... I hear the tone behind the words better than David does. David sees the words used far better than I. When I tried to speak with others about the tone (even the implied tone), I got shot down. EVERY TIME. Simply

Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

2005-01-16 Thread Lance Muir
What if the small-minded, boxed-in formulas of modern religion weren't the Truth? (previously owned prose) - Original Message - From: Slade Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 16, 2005 10:19 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian? I especially

Re: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread Lance Muir
IFF I've understood Slade then, I completely agree with him on this. Might we have access to thedecision making process on the tandem moderators thingy? Personally, if I were to cast my vote for a couple(t), it'd have to go to Judy/Izzie. From: Slade Henson To:

Re: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread Lance Muir
W. C. Fields also had a good ear for 'tone'. Nobody listened to him either, Slade. - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 16, 2005 08:59 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority It

RE: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
You reemergence is appreciated! -- slade -Original Message-From: Lance MuirSent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 15.04

RE: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Debbie Sawczak
-Original Message-From: Gregory A. Hession J.D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 1:59 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef [Gregory]Explain, please! [Debbie] In the hypothetical Rebbe's assumed"sacred vs

Re: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
Thank you.I see your point - We shouldn'tbite and devour each other politely and spiritually or coarsely and profanely. Gregory A. Hession J.D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Springfield, Mass. - Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-16 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
This is an example of ad hominen attack disguised in polite words. Gregory A. Hession J.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Springfield, Mass. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:53 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Torah

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:47:19 -0500 "Gregory A. Hession J.D." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unity is the show of love DESPITE not saying the same thing in the theological details, because on the main issue of following Christwe are saying the same thing. It is not a rational or

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Explain please... How so? On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:09:07 -0500 "Gregory A. Hession J.D." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is an example of ad hominen attack disguised in polite words. From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kay, I think I asked you about how you celebrate Sukkoth, but maybe

Re: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread Jeff Powers
Dave, I was not thinking of you, breathe easy my friend. Jeff Life makes warriors of us all.To emerge the victors, we must armourselves with the most potent of weapons.That weapon is prayer.--Rebbe Nachman of Breslov - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-16 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
Judy: I agree that we cannot have a mealy-mouthed, squishy, Barney the Dinosaur, We-are-the-World,Everything-Is-Beautiful Jesus. Let's assume that I am referring to the full-orbed Jesus of the Scriptures, the Jesus of the Nicene Creed, begotten before all ages, God of God, light of true

RE: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
When one wants to become a Rabbi, a young man begins to sit at the feet of a rabbi. He follows his teacher, watches how he interacts with his environment, how he responds to those of the Covenant and those outside the covenant, watches as he studies and davens (prays), and listens as he

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Can you be sure the Jesus of the apostles is the same Jesus as the Nicene Creed? jht On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:28:27 -0500 "Gregory A. Hession J.D." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy: I agree that we cannot have a mealy-mouthed, squishy, Barney the Dinosaur,

RE: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
Similarly, we can speak all we want to about love. Unless the words we use are crafted with care, the words kill the love. -- slade -Original Message-From: Slade Henson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 16.38Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef When

RE: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
When one wants to become a Rabbi, a young man begins to sit at the feet of a rabbi. He follows his teacher, watches how he interacts with his environment, how he responds to those of the Covenant and those outside the covenant, watches as he studies and davens (prays), and listens as he

RE: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
Similarly, we can speak all we want to about love. Unless the words we use are crafted with care, the words kill the love. -- slade When one wants to become a Rabbi, a young man begins to sit at the feet of a rabbi. He follows his teacher, watches how he interacts with his

Re: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:40:30 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Similarly, we can speak all we want to about love. Unless the words we use are crafted with care, the words kill the love. -- slade Slade, I thought you discerned byfeelings rather than bywords people speak - a

RE: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
Exactly my point. Thank you. -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 16.51To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

RE: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
Let be rephrase that since it's a bit ambiguous I said the following: I hear the tone behind the words far better than David does while he sees the words used far better than I. To indicate that I discern by feelings rather than words is incorrect. I discern by the Spirit

RE: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Debbie Sawczak
[Debbie] I love it. Thanks for rescuing the butterfly. -Original Message-From: Slade Henson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:38 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef When one wants to become a Rabbi, a young man

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-16 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
The council of Nicea was a multiyear assembly of nearly every bishop in the church, bathed in prayer, and intent on dealing with heresy which had attempted to demean the nature of Christ. I assume they got it right. Do you have some specific disagreements with some of its precepts? It isn't

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-16 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
It sounds like how a sarcastic lawyer asks a witness a question, when he knows the witness can't answer it in the expected manner. Gregory A. Hession J.D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Springfield, Mass. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Oh, thanks for the explanation. I read it as an honest question but he may be trying to make a point. Does that make it ad hominem? On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:17:22 -0500 "Gregory A. Hession J.D." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It sounds like how a sarcastic lawyer asks a witness a question,

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Conference hosted by Dave Hansen?

2005-01-16 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Rent a larger van, Izzy. Think of how much fun your kids will be having playing with their friends while you are driving. It would be an opportunity to sing children's songs and quote ScriptureYou think of it.SUNDAY SCHOOL ON THE ROAD. Wow Izzyyou could be such a good

Fw: [TruthTalk] What I believe...............and what I do not believe

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Right On! A man of the Word. Bless You Brother Terry jhtFrom: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I believe.and what I do not believe A while back, John, my brother in Christ, articulated what his beliefs are. He had reached the point, he felt, that he had separated

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
I don't know about the "bathed in prayer" part because they were constantly banishing each other. It was the beginning of the Church/State merger era when (because of Constantine) the Church began to wield the power of the heathen state which was never the will of the Lord who said "Render

RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
One moderator. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:55 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority To which do you disagree?

RE: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and the moral majority

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Lance, so you want Judy and me to be moderators of the rest of you??? (COOL!!!) J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:13 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] ad honanemium rule and

RE: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Did you finally get the shop appropriately decorated, Lance? Or did you finally come up with something worthwhile to say? J (It doesnt keep the rest of us from posting!) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Sunday, January 16,

RE: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
I prefer small nibbles to large chunks myself. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory A. Hession J.D. Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:29 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef Thank you.I see your

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Conference hosted by Dave Hansen?

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh you are SO full of fun ideas, DaveH. Ill call you next time I want to have a painting/remodeling party. You could have a blast. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:35 PM To:

RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
So No, I don't trust creeds or orthodoxy to discern or to lead me totruth. jht Same here Judy. Same here. Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Slade if I were you I would re-evaluate this gift because I do not believe it comes from the Spirit of God. Accusation always originates withthe enemy and the ability you claimyou have to feel or hear and discern the tone behind the words people use always leads to accusing others which

RE: [TruthTalk] Avram Yosef

2005-01-16 Thread Slade Henson
Oh PLEZZEE... K. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 18.16To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Avram

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!

2005-01-16 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
You may want to re-consider rejecting the wisdom of the elders as a practice. Otherwise, we are just adrift in the sea of our own prejudices, unrestrained by the great cloud of witnesses that went before us.They left a great legacy, and we should be careful before rejecting it. It seems

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