RE: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-12-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- I have to agree with Terry - I have come to respect the LDS guys as individuals but their alignment with JS are scary! I just can't buy the JS lifestyle as a model for their spitirual life. Neither can I buy the theology of anyone who supports Hitler.

RE: [TruthTalk] The Law

2002-12-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- Now I ask you, which of these men will God reward? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA -- David, Obviously the one who obeyed the law of love. That's what Jesus taught; we should do good on the Sabbath. Izzy -- Let your

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-12-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Laura, I do have all of Marlins past posts on my computer, and in none of them did he state that he supports Hitler. I think that is an untrue, if not unkind, statement. Maybe Marlin would be kind enough to clarify this issue for Laura? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-12-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dec 2002 14:52:34 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura, I do have all of Marlins past posts on my computer, and in none of them did he state that he supports Hitler. I think that is an untrue, if not unkind, statement. Maybe Marlin would be kind enough to clarify this issue

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-12-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
this they are liars keep in mind that in TT records DavidM assures DaveH that Joseph Smith/Mormonism is Christian g -- On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 14:52:34 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura, I do have all of Marlins past posts on my computer, and in none of them did he state that he supports

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-12-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, I think you must realize that most of us (I think)use the term Christian to mean someone who sincerely follows Christ. You have not given me a better word to use yet...do you have one? Izzy PS In MY book, Hitler was NO Christian! -Original Message- I am now as before a Catholic

RE: [TruthTalk] The Law

2002-12-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perry, Just for clarification, would you care to define revelation? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:TruthTalk- I AM saying that 1) no additional revelation beyond the NT is necessary relative to the gospel message or salvation, -- Let your speech be

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-12-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
Some of us dont think that Catholics are usually Christians. Seems like a rarity to me. Usually they are adulterers and/or liars in my experience. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December

RE: [TruthTalk] The Law

2002-12-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Law The sense in which I am using revelation is information that comes to an individual by divine or supernatural means. A supernatural revealing of information. Perry From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] The term Christian

2002-12-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, For the sake of TT'ers, how about you choose a name for REAL Christians, so that we can all talk the same lingo without reinventing the wheel every time we use the word. How about we use the capitalized word Believers? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] The term Christian

2002-12-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
The only problem I have with that is that there is a cult called The Way. They are the wrong way, but nonetheless, some would identify you with that cult. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles P. Locke Sent: Thursday, December 26,

RE: [TruthTalk] a tree is known by its fruits

2002-12-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
Another nitpicker on TT. sigh Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 1:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] a tree is known by its fruits On Fri, 27 Dec

RE: [TruthTalk] further revelation

2002-12-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
Beach Be sure to apply sunscreen, as none of us sitting here in the snow would pity you too much if you got sunburned! J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 1:13 AM To: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] The Law

2002-12-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
don't think I can change the meaning of a word because one person claims to have had a revelation. From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Law Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:19:26 -0600 Well, then, I've had that myself more

RE: [TruthTalk] a tree is known by its fruits

2002-12-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
Laura, Then you are the one who thinks Hitler was a Christian! ROFL!!! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 11:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] a tree is

RE: [TruthTalk] The Law

2002-12-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
), and it contradicts scripture, then whom might we assume is the supernatural force from which this infomation came? Hmmm.) Perry From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Law Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:36:53 -0600 Perry

RE: [TruthTalk] The Law

2002-12-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
of revelation, lets use lies. Perry From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Law Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:46:47 -0600 Perry, Thanks. But I would still like to have a more concise definition from you now that you have said

RE: [TruthTalk] to call sinners to repentance

2002-12-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
Marlin, Nice commentary. Whoever has been forgiven much, loves much. Izzy Luke 7: 40And Jesus answered him, Simon, I have something to say to you. And he replied, Say it, Teacher. 41A moneylender had two debtors: one owed five hundred [2] (25) denarii, and the other fifty. 42When

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-12-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
with doubt. From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:14:27 -0800 DAVEH: Just out of curiosity Izzy, how would you categorize Mother Theresa? ShieldsFamily wrote: Some

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-12-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
an estimated 50 million of these Christians were martyred throughout the dark and middle ages because they refused to join the RCC. Perry From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1 Date: Sat, 28

RE: [TruthTalk] a tree is known by its fruits

2002-12-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
I think Glenns little eSoul has been reincarnated into garys. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] a tree is known by

RE: [TruthTalk] a tree is known by its fruits

2002-12-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
See what I mean? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] a tree is known by its fruits you're lying about your poor

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-12-29 Thread ShieldsFamily
Ive always said there are going to be a lot of surprises in heaven! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 11:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible

[TruthTalk] Thank God for Thorns

2002-12-29 Thread ShieldsFamily
TTers, Heres a nice little article sent to me by Bob Just, the author of the Imagine article that many of you enjoyed earlier last week. It is written by another author: Izzy From: TIM TIMMONS To: THE PARTNERSHIP for Building a New Community Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002

RE: [TruthTalk] Don't Be A Fool!

2002-12-31 Thread ShieldsFamily
Surely we do not have anyone on TT who would use such dastardly tricks! J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 9:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Don't Be A

RE: [TruthTalk] Eastern Orthodox Paradigm. WAS: Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2003-01-01 Thread ShieldsFamily
of my need for a savior, then to repentance, and then subsequent baptism, then donned the full armor of God and was made a holy warrior to the LDS (I just added that to rib DaveH VBG ). Perry From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE

RE: [TruthTalk] Eastern Orhtodox Paradigm. WAS: Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2003-01-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thanks Marlin. I realize that the Jews don't have a knowledge of Jesus (the unsaved ones.) That's why the Messianic congregations are preferable. I am not saying we should follow their traditions, but just experience the Jewish way of life and relating to each other. My comments are about

RE: [TruthTalk] The Lord's Prayer - Original or not?

2003-01-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perry, I always considered that verse to mean that John taught his disciples how to pray, and they wanted Jesus to teach them how to pray--not that they wanted Jesus to teach them to pray the same prayer that John taught. It would not surprise me if the Lord's Prayer came from the influence of

RE: [TruthTalk] Amish self-sufficiency

2003-01-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
Heres an excerpt from the Amish prayer book under Rules for a Godly Life, which I know that Marlin will at least enjoy: On the Sabbath especially take note of the wonderful works of God; of the creation and governing of the world, and of our Redemption. Make the Sabbath a day of

[TruthTalk] Godly diet?

2003-01-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his diet plan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution to lose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothing else. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves! I'm

RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?

2003-01-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Im intrigued by it, but have doubts about my ability to give up carbs TOTALLY for even two weeks! Also I read it once before and thought there was no way I could eat such an abnormal diet for the rest of my life. I have an acquaintance who has been on the INITIAL part of the diet for many

RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?

2003-01-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Hi Marlin, So whats the point? Are you saying we still should not be eating pork (and mice?). I know that is a big controversy. Most Believers think that Peters vision about all foods being declared clean means that we can eat anything now. Do you disagree? Id appreciate your input.

RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?

2003-01-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, golly! I thought giving up carbs was bad enough! :-) How do you get past the urge to eat food??? I'd actually like to do this. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL

[TruthTalk] RE:Godly diet?

2003-01-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, Actually I know plenty of people who live like that. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Godly

RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?

2003-01-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, It was disobedience to Gods commandments that got Eve into troubleand just might have the same effect upon us. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?

2003-01-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:35 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Hi Marlin, So whats the point? Are you saying we still should not be eating pork (and mice?). I know that is a big controversy. Most Believers think

RE: [TruthTalk] RE:Godly diet?

2003-01-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] RE:Godly diet? Terry, Actually I know plenty of people who live like that. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?

2003-01-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
only been carniverous! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:41 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Terry, It was disobedience to Gods commandments that got Eve into troubleand just might

[TruthTalk] Bible Code

2003-01-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
I was looking around at the bookstore today and came across Bible Code II. Do any of you on TT have an opinion on whether there really is a secret code in the original Hebrew text of the OT? I think it is possible, because with God anything is possible. Or do you think the words and

RE: [TruthTalk] Bible Code

2003-01-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Shakespeare was a translator for King James, and that he signed his work. In the KJV, Psalm 46, look at the 46th word from the beginning of the chapter, and the 46th word from the end. H. Perry From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

RE: [TruthTalk] Bible Code

2003-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Marlin, I find the subject of gematria, or Bible numerics, to be fascinating. Perhaps because Im a total failure at math??? But even so, I can see the undeniable finger of God in this. I have read about Dr. Panin in a few books I have read on the subject. It amazes me that more people

RE: [TruthTalk] Bible Code

2003-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perry, As far as the bad reports about the men below: some repented, and some are just speculation that we can't say for sure is true. While I understand your argument, it makes no sense to me. Why accept any opinion on Christianity from a possibly hypocritical wolf in sheep's clothes? (If that

[TruthTalk] Quotes from Francis Frangipane in The 3 Battlegrounds

2003-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
I am thoroughly enjoying my Sabbath by (1) Napping, and (2) reading The 3 Battlegrounds by Francis Frangipane. I am happy to share with you some of my favorite highlighted passages below: (Comments welcome) You will remember that the location where Jesus was crucified was called

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Science and pork

2003-01-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Title: Romans , Chapter 14 Marlin, Have there been any studies done to compare the incidence of cancer in non-pork eating vs port-eating people? Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Science and pork

2003-01-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Title: Romans , Chapter 14 Marlin, While I would like to believe the following article, I have serious problems understanding how it could be scientific: Part of his research with the microscope revealed to him a specific state that the blood MUST be in for cancer to develop.

RE: [TruthTalk] Romans 14

2003-01-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Title: Romans , Chapter 14 Dear Chris, I second the motion; why dont you join TT so we can enjoy more of your commentary? And test your patience! J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson Sent: Saturday, January

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Science and pork

2003-01-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
which bones had gone out of position. It was always the same bones that went out. He used to do a similar exercise with cigarettes. http://www.hopebeyond.bizland.com/This is his web site. --Marlin - Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTE

RE: [TruthTalk] Diets

2003-01-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, Is this an issue of law versus freedom, or has it now become a health issue? FYI, we are discussing both issues simultaneously. . I thought that Michael D did an outstanding job of educating anyone with an open mind concerning the Biblical aspects of this discussion,

RE: [TruthTalk] Diets

2003-01-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, my dear Terry, You have me laughing so hard!!! Whatever, Izzy, Dont be so open minded that your brains fall out. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 7:25 PM To: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Diets

2003-01-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, Now that Im a bit more composed---have you ever seen a chicken that has cloven hooves and chews a cud? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 9:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [TruthTalk] Diets

2003-01-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
I had a lost friend once, who always said Everybody wants to go to Heaven, but nobody wants to die. He is in Hell now. Will be there for a long, long time. He never made Jesus his Lord Still, what he said is so true of most people who claim to be Christians. Why do you

RE: [TruthTalk] Hell

2003-01-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
TTers, I have a question for you. Where is hell located? I think it could actually be in the middle of the earth. Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet

2003-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
Title: Romans , Chapter 14 My husband says it is most likely a TT server problem. Possibly it is not recognizing the tag on your emails as already having been sent. I think it is divine providence deciding that your message was so good that it needs to be repeated. J Izzy -Original

RE: [TruthTalk] SermonAudio.com - What's New Details.html

2003-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thanks Terry. Very interesting and sad. (Although I'm sure we have all felt that way at times.) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk]

RE: [TruthTalk] The relationship between Torah observance and eternal life.

2003-01-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The relationship between Torah observance and eternal life. I have no idea if

RE: [TruthTalk] The relationship between Torah observance and eternal life.

2003-01-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
I have noticed that Believers who lift up Jesus ability to set us free from a sinful life are often ridiculed by Christians. I am not setting myself up as pure, but am telling you that because JESUS is pure, we are free from subordination To the devil. You are a slave to whatever rules

RE: [TruthTalk] The relationship between Torah observance and eternal life.

2003-01-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
] The relationship between Torah observance and eternal life. I figured that would get a rise out of you. Thanks for not disappointing me. Terry - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: RE

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk?

2003-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Greetings, Chris! What is an underShepard? You arent one of those guys who makes everyone in your congregation call you to ask if they can get a haircut, or buy a new car, or get other permission for other activities of daily living are you? Thats the skinny Ive heard about the Sheparding

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Science and pork

2003-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Pocahontas, AR 72455 (870) 892-7843 http://www.childrenofJesus.org - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1/12/03 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw

[TruthTalk] College-themed caskets available!

2003-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Title: Romans , Chapter 14 Wow! Now you can keep that old team spirit with a college-themed casket of your very own! http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,75528,00.html Izzy,

RE: [TruthTalk] Diets

2003-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
ROFL!!! I think hes just sleep-deprived. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 6:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Diets Rev. Chris: You have

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Science and pork

2003-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
remember)All I know about blood is that it gets all over you whenyou butcher a hog. No need for an apology. Even nurses make mizteaks. Terry - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:40 AM Subject: RE

RE: [TruthTalk] The relationship between Torah observance and eternal life.

2003-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Hi David, Thanks for the notes. I see what you mean by shadow now. However, the Passover was not one of the 10 Commandments, as was Sabbath rest. And now WE are the holy Priesthood. So, I can see how those things were superceded by Jesus. However, I dont see how that changes the

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk?

2003-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Hi DaveH! Are you still hiding out there from David Millers book? J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk? DAVEH: Welcome

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk?

2003-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- DAVEH Sountil that is done, I'm trying to avoid aggravating any TTers! You can run, but you cant hide! J Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] underShepherd

2003-01-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] underShepherd \o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily Sent: 1/16/03 5:36 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk?

2003-01-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
You mean you stopped??? J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk? ShieldsFamily wrote: -Original Message

RE: [TruthTalk] Broken bones 101, etc.

2003-01-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
Marlin, I have prayed for you and your family to be healed. It would help if you would see a doctor about taking an antibiotic for your probable strep throat. If you have strep, it can turn into much more serious things if you dont kill the germs(especially in children). Oh, for your

RE: [TruthTalk] getting over the flu

2003-01-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
happy for the Sabbath rest. --Marlin - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:18 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Broken bones 101, etc. Marlin, I have prayed for you and your family

RE: [TruthTalk] Broken bones 101: Brief intro

2003-01-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
Chris, Sounds like good advice. I guess you are not a promoter of the Atkins Diet? Guess my only alternative to lose that 5 lbs. is get a dadburned trampoline! J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of little children of Jesus

RE: [TruthTalk] Broken bones 101, etc.

2003-01-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Broken bones 101, etc. \o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily Sent: 1/17/03 5:18 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Broken bones 101, etc

[TruthTalk] Aardvarks!

2003-01-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
According to British scientists we have not descended from the monkey, but from the Aardvark! http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-549913,00.html. Romans:21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and

RE: [TruthTalk] Stand for the Unborn!

2003-01-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
Peter, I appreciate what seems to be your sincere effort to determine when life begins. As a former Labor Delivery nurse I can tell you this: Prior to birth if you tie off the umbilical cord, then you will learn the difference between a Living and a Dead human being being born. It had the breath

RE: [TruthTalk] Stand for the Unborn!

2003-01-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Eyland Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Stand for the Unborn! On 22/1/03 2:15 AM, ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a former Labor Delivery nurse I can tell you this: Prior to birth

RE: [TruthTalk] Stand for the Unborn!

2003-01-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
Peter wrote: Whew!! Thanks for that. I thought you might have been saying that somehow the preborn infant was actually breathing air. Your breath of life then means indirect Oxygen transport through the mother's blood in the umbilical cord attached to the torso and not by direct

RE: [TruthTalk] Stand for the Unborn!

2003-01-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- I have asked the question when does human life become a human person? Peter, Are you saying that a human life is NOT a human person? Then whattheheck is it??? Wouldnt you agree that they are both HUMANS? (Im assuming that prior to your birth you were

RE: [TruthTalk] Stand for the Unborn!

2003-01-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
! On 22/1/03 11:18 AM, ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Are you saying that a human life is NOT a human person? Then whattheheck is it??? Wouldn¹t you agree that they are both HUMANS? (I¹m assuming that prior to your birth you were not an aardvark.) Izzy G'day Izzy, Laura et al B

RE: [TruthTalk] Cell phones and abortions

2003-01-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Chris, Can you give us the source of this study? Izzy Every female 18 years and under who had an abortion, and also had a relative afflicted by breast cancer (mother, sister or aunt) was also afflicted by breast cancer by the age of 45! Yet laws are passed in many jurisdictions

RE: [TruthTalk] Stand for the Unborn!

2003-01-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message-from David Miller: How can you say with certainty that it did not change into a person at some point along that continuum? At what exact point would you say that is? I say there is no exact point that you can POINT to. J Suppose for the sake of

RE: [TruthTalk] Cell phones and abortions

2003-01-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
: [TruthTalk] Cell phones and abortions Yes, I CAN give the source of this study. Is that all you wanted to know? vbg Chris - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/22/2003 7:39 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Cell phones and abortions

RE: [TruthTalk] Bottom line on Pro-choice

2003-01-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
I agree! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of little children of Jesus Christ Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Bottom line on Pro-choice \o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/

RE: [TruthTalk] Stand for the Unborn!

2003-01-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Izzy, you haven't explained, from the Bible, what a human being is and when they start. Until proven otherwise, Ill go with the from my mothers womb part. Psalm 13913 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. You have clearly identified the

RE: [TruthTalk] Stand for the Unborn!

2003-01-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, I am a common sense kind of person, rather than an intellectual. I don't do research. I just think something like this: If Mary had aborted Jesus, would she have killed a Person or a non-Person? Therefore, I deduce that a preborn human being is a Person. Too simple, Izzy, Don't be so

RE: [TruthTalk] Cell phones and abortions

2003-01-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, Thanks for doing the research here; I was gone all day yesterday and didn't get a chance to look it up. I knew it sounded fishy. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:17 AM To: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Bottom line on Pro-choice

2003-01-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
Chris, Your statements below seem amazingly unprofessional to me. If you are going to spout facts and statistics like you know what you are talking about, it is imperative that YOU provide your references. Every medical journal article goes into great detail to verify its facts; not

RE: [TruthTalk] Wolf in sheep's clothing?

2003-01-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perhaps, Chris, you dont provide your references because you cant stand to have your conclusions challenged? (FYI, David Miller has background in PhD science research. So sneer at that, if you wish.) If someone challenges your conclusion, wouldnt it make more sense to argue the merits of

[TruthTalk] Catholic Bishop gives ultimatum to Gov. Davis/Calif.

2003-01-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
Here is some refreshing news from the Catholic church: Bishop challenges Davis on abortion 'Oppose it or stop taking Holy Communion,' governor told http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30637 (From WorldNetDaily)

[TruthTalk] Link between abortion and breast cancer:

2003-01-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
of YahShua ! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/23/2003 10:03 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Cell phones and abortions David, Thanks for doing the research here; I was gone all day yesterday

RE: [TruthTalk] Stand for the Unborn!

2003-01-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, Good questions, and I don't know. I just think that when I miscarried, years ago, and very early on, that I lost a real Person. I look forward to meeting that Person in heaven. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Miller

RE: [TruthTalk] Stand for the Unborn!

2003-01-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, As I read our previous exchanges I am laughing at the Mars vs. Venus differences in the way men and women think. LOL! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [TruthTalk] Notes from a friend ...

2003-01-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- I offer the following for the anonymous ignorant defender of death to children who claims that there are no credible studies or experts that believe that there is a causal link between breast cancer and abortion.

RE: [TruthTalk] Wolf in sheep's clothing?

2003-01-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 11:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Wolf in sheep's clothing? On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:39:23 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (FYI, David Miller

RE: [TruthTalk] Stand for the Unborn!

2003-01-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Pete the Aard, That was nice. By the way, are you munching on the Australian deep-fried variety, or upon the chocolate-dipped French fourmi? Izzy, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Eyland Sent: Friday, January 24,

[TruthTalk] More from Frangipane:

2003-01-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Here are a few good words from Francis Frangipanes The 3 Battlegrounds, regarding Discernment: If we do not move in divine forgiveness, we will walk in much deception. We will presume we have discernment when, in truth, we are seeing through the weil of a critical spirit. We must

RE: [TruthTalk] More from Frangipane:

2003-01-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Hi Terry, Ha! Sorry, but in fairness to Francis, I must tell you these are just a FEW excerpts from what he has written (hopping around in a chapter), and surely NOT a complete picture of all his viewpoints. He is very big on eliminating sin in ourselves, however, before we get to the

RE: [TruthTalk] Wolf in sheep's clothing?

2003-01-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
? you're explaining this to whom? if to _tt_what are your credentials? On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:29:02 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To me it helps explain why David has such excellent understanding in a wide variety of scientific areas, and also that he understands

RE: [TruthTalk] Wolf in sheep's clothing?

2003-01-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
-academic/s -- (for ref:) On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:56:06 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..Chris Barr, after he cast aspersions upon Davids capabilities to understand a certain piece of medical research...I guess that makes you smarter than I am. Izzy -Original

RE: [TruthTalk] Wolf in sheep's clothing?

2003-01-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
YES PETE--I'VE NEVER SEEN AN AARDVARK C.V. BEFORE!!! Izzy, If you want credentials, I suspect that newcomer Peter might blow us all away if he shared his curriculum vitae with us. Feel free to tell us more about yourself Peter. Maybe you can succeed where I have failed in gaining Gary's

[TruthTalk] How is Marlin?

2003-01-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Marlin, We havent heard from you in a while. Are you doing okay, post-flu? Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] God and war

2003-01-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
Marlin, Life is not really one big Conspiracy Theory. You have been hanging around Chris too much, in my opinion. I am not sure what causes people to get into that mindset, but it is not godly. Yes, conspiracies have and do exist, but that is not the norm in everything, all the time.

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