Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-14 Thread Mike Edwards
Venkat, Many thanks, Mike. Venkata Krishnan wrote: Hi Mike, I have added your id in as 'confluence-administrators'. - Venkat On 6/13/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Luciano, Only just spotted your request in the emails My user ID is edwardsmj Do I need to send this

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-14 Thread Simon Laws
Hi, a couple of points in line... On 6/14/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I have migrated all content (or atleast most - folks who have added something to the main wiki in the last 24 hrs, please check and copy over the changes to TUSCANYWIKI). I have provided all 'create'

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-14 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi, I have migrated all content (or atleast most - folks who have added something to the main wiki in the last 24 hrs, please check and copy over the changes to TUSCANYWIKI). I have provided all 'create' permissions to confluence-users. So, if somebody is having trouble creating pages, please l

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-13 Thread haleh mahbod
Can you please also outline what are the steps that a contributor can follow to provide updates to the website through this wiki? Thanks, Haleh On 6/13/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I have created the Tuscany Wiki space now on confluence - http://cwiki.apache.org/conflu

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-13 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi, I have created the Tuscany Wiki space now on confluence - http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Index. Mike, I need help with copying the pages over from TUSCANY and then stubbing the autoexport for TUSCANYWIKI. Right now I just about see export and import of spaces. Thank

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-13 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi Mike, I have added your id in as 'confluence-administrators'. - Venkat On 6/13/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Luciano, Only just spotted your request in the emails My user ID is edwardsmj Do I need to send this directly to infra, or will you handle it? Yours, Mike.

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-13 Thread Mike Edwards
Luciano, Only just spotted your request in the emails My user ID is edwardsmj Do I need to send this directly to infra, or will you handle it? Yours, Mike. Luciano Resende wrote: Venkat, Mike, infra is asking for your confluence user ids, could you please provide this info. On 6/8/

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-13 Thread Mike Edwards
Venkat, +1 from me. How to migrate content? I assume that you mean how do we control the process? The steps in actually moving content are reasonably straightforward - but the process for deciding to do it must mirror that for placing code into trunk, as mentioned on some other emails...

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-13 Thread Simon Nash
Sounds good to me. Let's get this started and refine the process as we go along and learn what's most effective. Simon Venkata Krishnan wrote: Hi, I have the admin access now. I am able to see the 'Create Space' option on the dashboard now. Before I go ahead let me conform the following

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-13 Thread ant elder
On 6/13/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I have the admin access now. I am able to see the 'Create Space' option on the dashboard now. Before I go ahead let me conform the following - We are going to create a space named 'Tuscany Wiki' with key 'TUSCANYWIKI' - All contents

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-13 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi, I have the admin access now. I am able to see the 'Create Space' option on the dashboard now. Before I go ahead let me conform the following - We are going to create a space named 'Tuscany Wiki' with key 'TUSCANYWIKI' - All contents of the present wiki space 'TUSCANY' will be copied over to

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-12 Thread Simon Laws
Ok, thanks Venkat for looking into this. Simon

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-12 Thread Venkata Krishnan
I was wanting to take Luciano's help to make my id admin. Since he is not available I've just about posted to infra to add my id as confluence admin. As mentioned on the IRC last night I'd like to check up after I get admin privelges, if this can be done by us or should have to only go thro infra

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-12 Thread Simon Laws
Ok, so can our Confluence admins tell us if we need to create a JIRA with infra to make this happen or whether they can action this? Simon

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-11 Thread Simon Nash
I'd like an additional space that non-committers can use to preview proposed updates to the Web site. I suggest granting access control permission to edit this space by request on the dev list. Anyone who wants to contribute to the Web site could make such a request. The structure (e.g., menus)

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-11 Thread Simon Nash
Comments inline. Simon Simon Laws wrote: In this situation where only commiters have access to update the site wiki the committers have to adopt the role of an editor. New content can come either as unformatted page content or formatted (for confluence) page content Unformatted content, e.g

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-11 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi Luciano, since you now have the admin previleges on confluence could you please grant us admin previleges. My id is 'svkrish'. Thanks - Venkat On 6/9/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Venkat, Mike, infra is asking for your confluence user ids, could you please provide this i

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-11 Thread Simon Laws
In this situation where only commiters have access to update the site wiki the committers have to adopt the role of an editor. New content can come either as unformatted page content or formatted (for confluence) page content Unformatted content, e.g. word docs, text, diagrams etc can be directly

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-09 Thread Simon Nash
Comments inline below. Simon Simon Laws wrote: Conversation seems to have stopped so, from the previous comments... * Confluence admins: Venkat, Luciano, Mike Edwards [1] have been proposed to cover the timezones we operate in. Venkat are you progressing this? * http://cwiki.apache.org/con

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-08 Thread Luciano Resende
Venkat, Mike, infra is asking for your confluence user ids, could you please provide this info. On 6/8/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Conversation seems to have stopped so, from the previous comments... * Confluence admins: Venkat, Luciano, Mike Edwards [1] have been proposed to cov

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-08 Thread Simon Laws
Conversation seems to have stopped so, from the previous comments... * Confluence admins: Venkat, Luciano, Mike Edwards [1] have been proposed to cover the timezones we operate in. Venkat are you progressing this? * http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY space access: As this is no

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-07 Thread Hernan Cunico
There should be no problem with all committers being "space" admins however I don't think it's a good idea to make every single committer at Apache a Confluence Administrator. If the need comes from a limitation with a plugin then we should workout that limitation. Just a thought. Cheers! Hern

Re: Steps to update the Web site, was: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-07 Thread ant elder
+1 to Mike as admin, if its not all committers and we just have the one uk based one then Mike would be a far better choice than me as he actually know as something about it! ...ant On 6/7/07, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Folks, I'd just like to say that if you need Confluence he

Re: Steps to update the Web site, was: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-07 Thread Mike Edwards
Folks, I'd just like to say that if you need Confluence help, that I have some expertise in this area since I manage the www.osoa.org site, which is also based on Confluence. Yours, Mike. ant elder wrote: On 6/7/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you have Confluence Admi

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-07 Thread ant elder
On 6/6/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes - confluence admin. Ok for now shall I go ahead and raise requests for Admin previleges for me and Luciano ? At the very least, if we really can't have all committers be admins could we at least have admins for each timezone we're ac

Re: Steps to update the Web site, was: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-07 Thread ant elder
On 6/7/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you have Confluence Admin rights ? We are trying to get couple of people with Admin rights in order to be able to resolve this infra issues. Otherwise we are dependent on the existent confluence admins, and Herman is one of the guys that a

Re: Steps to update the Web site, was: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Luciano Resende
Do you have Confluence Admin rights ? We are trying to get couple of people with Admin rights in order to be able to resolve this infra issues. Otherwise we are dependent on the existent confluence admins, and Herman is one of the guys that are helping us. On 6/6/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAI

Re: Steps to update the Web site, was: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Luciano Resende wrote: Comments inline On 6/6/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] haleh mahbod wrote: > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56590 > > This document is purely sharing the wiki stucture and explains how to > move > cwiki to th

Re: Steps to update the Web site, was: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Luciano Resende
Comments inline On 6/6/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] haleh mahbod wrote: > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56590 > > This document is purely sharing the wiki stucture and explains how to > move > cwiki to the website. > > Accordin

Steps to update the Web site, was: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[snip] haleh mahbod wrote: http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56590 This document is purely sharing the wiki stucture and explains how to move cwiki to the website. According to this doc a change to the Wiki representing the Tuscany Web site is: 1. Exported

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] haleh mahbod wrote: How about we change the name of the document to 'Tuscany cwiki & Website Structure' And remove the paragraphs marked with the pink comments? http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56590 This document is purely

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[snip] haleh mahbod wrote: How about we change the name of the document to 'Tuscany cwiki & Website Structure' And remove the paragraphs marked with the pink comments? http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56590 This document is purely sharing the wiki stucture and e

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Simon Laws
Looking at the Geronimo spaces I like the idea of having separate spaces for the documentation for different versions. However we havn't got to V1.0 yet so not an immediate requirement. I would still go with. /TUSCANY - the main project web site space current site content committer access

Re: Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Hernan Cunico
You pretty much summarized the advantages of having multiple spaces From Admin point of view, there are all benefits from having multiple spaces, you have more control on everything, it is more granular and the maintenance is "lighter"-weight. From the user perspective it is transparent, howev

Tuscany wiki strategy, was :Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Luciano Resende
Should we have a discussion around our wiki strategy and make sure we do the right thing? We could use the Geronimo wiki strategy [1] as an example and start point. I think we should consider the following things: - Naming Convention - Access Control List for the wiki spaces - Scope for co

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Hernan Cunico
I would suggest you guys use lower case for the space names, at least for the one with the highest hierarchy. Remember the URL is case sensitive and it is based on the space ID. Ideally http://cwiki.apache.org/tuscany should take you to a page consolidating pointers to all the other Tuscany spa

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Yes - confluence admin. Ok for now shall I go ahead and raise requests for Admin previleges for me and Luciano ? - Venkat On 6/6/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OK so, I'll raise a JIRA against infrastructure asking for a new space to act as our wiki: Name: Apache Tuscany Wi

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Simon Laws
Yes. Make sense? Simon

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Luciano Resende
So, the idea is to have the current wiki as the official Tuscany website, and the new one, would be used as general purpose wiki ? On 6/6/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OK so, I'll raise a JIRA against infrastructure asking for a new space to act as our wiki: Name: Apache Tusc

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Simon Laws
OK so, I'll raise a JIRA against infrastructure asking for a new space to act as our wiki: Name: Apache Tuscany Wiki Key: TUSCANYWIKI Is everyone happy with this name? Venkat, when you say "administrator" privileges I assume you mean confluence admin privileges? Wouldn't this be a separate

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Hernan Cunico
diff for patches wont work as the confluence native content (the source) is not on svn. That is unless those patches are for any other static content that is not served directly by confluence but still is being referenced by it, something like the css or some images like logos, templates, etc.

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Mike Edwards
Simon, I think that the idea is to split the material between "official Website" pages and general Wiki pages. The official website pages would be restricted to editing by committers. The rest of the Wiki can be open to editing by all. The simplest way for a non-committer to create somethi

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Simon Nash
With this new approach, how can a non-committer make a change? Will there be a mirror of the web site in the separate space with committer+CLA access where I can do this? Or will I need to create diff patches and attach them to a JIRA? Simon ant elder wrote: +1, it would be unfortunate to ha

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Venkata Krishnan
When we do this, we should also be asking for 'administrator' access for a couple of us atleast so that we could give Hernan a break on somethings such as a manual autoexport. Thanks. - Venkat On 6/6/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok Hernan, thanks for your advice on this, I guess

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Hernan Cunico
I think it was Ted Husted who created your space first, you could start there. Either way, you need to send the request to infra@ and open a JIRA with the request so those folks can keep track Cheers! Hernan Simon Laws wrote: Ok Hernan, thanks for your advice on this, I guess we can go with ju

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread ant elder
+1, it would be unfortunate to have the home paged covered in unsavory links by some spammer just as 0.90 has been announced. ...ant On 6/6/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok Hernan, thanks for your advice on this, I guess we can go with just having committers access on the space u

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Simon Laws
Ok Hernan, thanks for your advice on this, I guess we can go with just having committers access on the space used to generate the website and them move everything else to a separate space with committers and cla access. Who do we ask for a new space? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Simon

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Hernan Cunico
Everybody knows what to expect from a wiki (due to wikis very nature) and what to expect from an official website. AFAIK, if a content is not developed and/or entirely controlled by the committers then it can not be called official. There have been endless discussions on this topic on infra@ Ma

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Simon Laws
The rules, as documented [1], don't restrict editorship of a wiki used as a project website to just committers but ask that only those who have a signed CLA on file be allowed to edit the pages destined for the project website. It doesn't say we can't restrict it to just committers of course. I t

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-06 Thread Simon Nash
I would be disappointed to lose the ability to contribute directly to the Web site pages. When the move to a wiki-based approach was first discussed, one of the benefits was that it would not be necessary to limit updates to committers as was the case with the previous web site. Would it be possi

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-05 Thread haleh mahbod
How about we change the name of the document to 'Tuscany cwiki & Website Structure' And remove the paragraphs marked with the pink comments? http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56590 This document is purely sharing the wiki stucture and explains how to move cwiki to

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-05 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi Ant, What drove that statement was the re-org that had to done to the content. If we do not follow some fundamental guidelines its going to be difficult to organize or link up the content. Also there aren't any guidelines there that are going to be cumbersome to follow - there are just about

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-05 Thread Hernan Cunico
You will have to restrict edit to just committers if you want to make this Confluence space your "official" web site. I strongly recommend you folks discuss this with Infra@ as you will also need Confluence admin auth to control your own user groups. Cheers! Hernan ant elder wrote: I don't lik

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-05 Thread ant elder
I don't like this bit: "Since the Wiki content forms the backbone for the public website content, it is important that the community adheres to some community accepted common guidelines when authoring content on the Wiki, to help in consistency and maintainability of the content." If we're worri

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-05 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi, I've added more to this guidelines page. Please take a look and see if it all makes sense. Thanks. - Venkat On 6/5/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Website update is done. Below is the draft of 'cwiki development guide' that lays out the tree structure for cwiki. http:

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-04 Thread haleh mahbod
Hi, Website update is done. Below is the draft of 'cwiki development guide' that lays out the tree structure for cwiki. http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Tuscany+cwiki+Development+Guideline Can we update it with your suggestions and once an agreement is reached make it the devel

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-02 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi Haleh, please see my comments inline. Thanks - Venkat On 6/1/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't see a difference and in fact it is more work. In today's mode: you update one page. a) update Latest release b) move the old release to previous releases. (Note: I think previ

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-01 Thread haleh mahbod
Hi, I have now converted Java SCA and SDO to the new navigation style mentioned in this thread. I'll be working on the other subprojects next. If possible, give me till Tuesday afternoon to clean up the navigation since this is all real time and we can easily walk over each other's work. I'll d

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-01 Thread haleh mahbod
I don't see a difference and in fact it is more work. In today's mode: you update one page. a) update Latest release b) move the old release to previous releases. (Note: I think previous releases should be on the same page). In your proposal: Have a page for each release and then link it back t

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-01 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi Haleh, I am trying to re-org the downloads / release page for the following reason :-- Currently the SCA Release pages points to two things i) Latest Release ii) Previous Releases. In the Latest Release section we have hardcoded the content for the 0.90 release. This is something we will ha

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-01 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi Kelvin, I've just added one more menu item 'SCA Java Home' to link back to the home page of the subproject. Will do the same for DAS and SDO as well, now. Also I am going to see if we can get the other downloads pages (M2 ones) to look the same as the current one. - Venkat On 6/1/07, kelvi

Re: Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-06-01 Thread kelvin goodson
Haleh, this looks really good, thanks. I particularly like the "Latest Tuscany Releases" inset box and the new download page layout. The sub-project menu doesn't provide a link back to the sub-project's home. Would it be possible to make the title of the sub-project menu to be a link back to the

Website - Consistent navigation menus

2007-05-31 Thread haleh mahbod
Hi, The left navigation bar used to change as we navigated through pages. We also had a discussion around wanting a release page per subproject on the subproject page. Based on these comments, I have made the following updates for SCA Java for now. If it looks good, I'll go ahead and make the upda