and gave up after just a
few pages. I used Word Perfect at the time which went a lot further.
If I were to do it again, I would either use OOo or Scribus or a
combination of both.
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with the earlier versions for the same things either. On the
other hand loading is
faster since you don't have to wait for the time out loading as in 2.x
and X-11.
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educated teacher would mark it down. We say On Monday the President
said so (a) the word order is different but also, and *much* more
importantly, (b) we say ... *on* Monday
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the capability written into the specifications for USB
2.0. The problem is that it is not a required part of the
specification and unless everything on the USB chain implements it, it
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another type of document such as a spreadsheet.
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On Mar 22, 2008, at 11:19, Richard Grant wrote:
I downloaded the program with Safari and, when I tried running the
program the icon just bounced and bounced - so I uninstalled it and
then downloaded with Firefox and tried
it on your Mac and even pass the program on to other Mac users. Being
much more recent than 2003, it most likely will do a better job of
opening the ppt or doc files than the 2003 version of Microsoft Office.
Thanks again
Marcia
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ISO opendoc
file standard
but uses a proprietary file format that changes with each version of
Word.
Open Office Writer can save the file in either rtf, a relatively open
Microsoft file format,
or as a doc format for Word 6, or Word 95, or Word 97.
Enjoy,
Ross Bernheim
On Jan 3, 2008, at 21:21, Harvey Kabaker wrote:
Ross Bernheim wrote:
On Jan 2, 2008, at 17:01, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
A shot in the dark. How about, when you print, try selecting
collate, and see what happens
I already tried it. Same problem.
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A shot in the dark. How about, when you print, try selecting
collate, and see what happens
I already tried it. Same problem.
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I will note that I am having the same problem. This has persisted for
the last several
versions of OOo, and Mac OS X 10.3, 10.4 and now 10.5. This is not a
printer issue,
as I have tried with different printers. I do not have this problem
when printing from
OOo on Windows XP.
Ross Bernheim
, in this case I do not
believe the cause can be laid at HP's feet.
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Hardware solution,
Sharp Zarus. This is a handheld PDA like Linux computer
later ones had QVGA display in color and have a keyboard,
albeit small. They are generally available from importers who
specialize in localizing them for the local market as they are
not sold through regular channels
On Nov 16, 2007, at 13:05, David Lowe wrote:
On Nov 15, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Ross Bernheim wrote:
Just found an interesting bit on the time out error on launching
OOo. Seems there is a script involved. I managed to get
a look at it, but am not familiar with the scripting. Seems someone
who
was that the clipboard required two tries at pasting
with OS X 10.4 and earlier. I suspect that it needed the extra to
change window manager focus.
Ross
On Nov 13, 2007, at 1:18, Datatude wrote:
Did you try to copy from another application and paste into OOo
under X11?
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The user really only wants to be able to open, edit and send back
the odd Microsoft doc to their clients...
TIA
Alan
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I am running Open Office 2.3 on my eMac G4 under Mac OS X 10.5 and
X-11 with no
problems. There is a time out dialog from X-11 but clicking ok seems
to let things continue
on properly.
Ross Bernheim
On Nov 6, 2007, at 7:56, Conor Phillips wrote:
Hi
I've just bought an iMac
Jim,
OOo 2.3 works under Leopard. There is a problem with a time out on the
launching
of X-11, but a simple click on the OK button allows things to proceed
normally from
there.
Ross Bernheim
On Nov 4, 2007, at 15:17, Jim Thomson wrote:
I have used open office on a PC but have just
, so it does
not appear to be an OOo 2.3 problem.
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it and install if if you are using
OS X 10.3. You also could use NeoOffice/J an implementation that runs
natively on the Mac and uses Java.
And finally there are builds available for the port of Open Office
native to the Mac which is still in development.
Ross Bernheim
On Oct 14, 2007, at 6:34, Kevin
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I want to find out how many people are actually subscribed to this
User List to see if there is justification to make changes to how
the list works with regard to subscribe requirements or not.
Okay this will only work best if everyone
On Aug 31, 2007, at 1:43, M. Fioretti wrote:
File formats are the only real reason why the Microsoft monopoly still
exists. Closed or not documented file formats are a terribly stupid
and dangerous idea no matter who creates them.
There is another reason. Most users are lazy and do not want
open source databases available
for a download.
They range from simple to complete SQL databases capable of rather
large and complex files. Open Office's database can serve as a front
end for many of
these more complex databases if desired.
Ross Bernheim
On Aug 2, 2007, at 18:07, Roy
multiple authors over a period of time. These are areas where
OOo is a
better choice.
Ross Bernheim
On Jun 13, 2007, at 14:15, Mike Reeves wrote:
I was asking if it was a feasible thing to do. Here's a question:
Would it be worth company resources and time to give OpenOffice a shot
Wilson,
I am currently using OOo 2.1 on my eMac at work running Mac OS X 10.3.9.
I have not encountered any problems running this program. My only
problem
was that the eMac did not come with the X-11 window system and I had to
download and install it before installing and running OOo.
Ross
and saving as a doc
file. When opened
in MS Word the graphic was munged.
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On Jun 5, 2007, at 13:10, Dan Lewis wrote:
On Tuesday June 05 2007 2:04 pm, Ross Bernheim wrote:
Hello,
I have been using OOo for several years now on Mac, Linux, and
Wndows XP. Great
program and I have converted several others to it.
My problem is I need to do some drawings, basic boxes
. Not the leas of which is with returning
customres you can simply look up the last invoice in the log and
open it and do a save as with the new invoice number and then
edit the invoice without having to re-enter the customer information
all over again.
Ross Bernheim
On May 24, 2007, at 4:04, Dan Lewis
the different OS's
and
under Parallels, you can drag and drop between OS X and Windows XP,
but not between the other OS's and OS X yet.
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than
the previous 4/5 of a quart and they could charge the same and pocket
the extra profit. In some states it
is illegal to sell some food items in metric measures!
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It works for me with a caveat. OOo uses the control v, x, and c key
combinations rather than
the equivalents using the 'Apple' key combinations. Secondly you may
need to hit control
v twice to get it to paste.
Ross Bernheim
On Mar 28, 2007, at 10:58, Kojo Idrissa wrote:
I've been using
Ron,
There was a free version of Word Perfect that ran under Mac OS 7. You
might look for it. I believe it was
version 3.5e. I used it and it was good for the time. It slowed down
with large documents above about 75
pages or so if I remember correctly.
Ross Bernheim
On Mar 4, 2007, at 9
On Jan 18, 2007, at 1:36, Guy Voets wrote:
The *odt and other OpenOffice.org formats are readable by Mac as well
as by
PC.
Do you have OOo installed on both computers? If the PC doesn't have OOo
installed, you need to save the documents made on your Mac as *.doc (or
*.xls) (Save As and choose
publishing program for the document and a word processor or text editor
for the text portions and import the text into the desktop publishing
program.
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Bradley,
On the Mac, OOo opens up with a blank writer document. To open up a
document of another type, go to the File menu and open New and you will
get
a drop down menu listing all the document types such as spreadsheet,
presentation, etc.
Ross Bernheim
On Jan 5, 2007, at 16:06, Bradley
drive will also allow
you to have a lot more space for
programs and documents and music, etc.
The Mac mini is a nice machine, and is greatly improved by more memory
and an external hard disk drive
Ross Bernheim
no other word processor can use the
standard without violating Microsoft's patents this is another reason
to not consider it a true standard. Also note the similarity in name
and use of the word Open to suggest an openess that does not really
exist.
Ross Bernheim
Roger,
what is being talked about is a port of OOo to use Apple's Aqua
interface directly, not an
Aqua look. Doing an Aqua-look for the PC would require a lot of work to
create all the
Mac Aqua user interface.
Ross
On Dec 15, 2006, at 20:40, Roger S wrote:
I note that OpenOffice is
The download of X11 on the Apple site is for 10.3.x only. You need to
install the X11 from the CD or DVD that came with your
machine or retail version of 10.4.x. Boot from the CD and install. At
the install it will let you choose the type of install. You want
to install an optional package, X11.
Jan,
You need to install the X11 from the OS X 10.4 install disk. The
download version from Apple's
website is for 10.3, not 10.4. The install from your installation disk
is to install an optional package
the X11, not the X11 sdk which is for software development and is an
add on to the X11
On Oct 31, 2006, at 19:36, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
M. Henri Day wrote:
Dear Ross,
I agree with much of what you write. Still, to the degree that public
perception of OOo as bloated and slow is justified, I think these
problems
should be addressed in the course of development work on
, it is a problem. If on the other hand you open it once
and leave it open
all day long as I do, this is only a minor annoyance at worst.
Ross Bernheim
On Oct 29, 2006, at 8:12, M. Henri Day wrote:
Dear James,
Interesting article, which should help to encourage a more open view
of the
possibility
On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:48, M. Henri Day wrote:
Dear Ross,
I agree with much of what you write. Still, to the degree that public
perception of OOo as bloated and slow is justified, I think these
problems
should be addressed in the course of development work on the programme
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small is often
Guy,
I wish I knew what was different. I had the problem in 2.0.3 so
I downloaded and installed 2.04. Still no joy.
I am beginning to suspect a corrupted preference file somewhere,
but don't know What files OOo stores where and which to toss and
have OOo re-create.
Ross
On Oct 17, 2006, at
Arnold,
He is not the only one with the problem. I too have not been able to
get OOo 2.x to send mail on
any of my Macs running 10.3.9 and 10.4 and Apple's Mail program. OOo
1.x series worked fine.
I miss this very useful feature. Something is definitely wrong with OOo
2.x in this regard.
file on a
shared drive. Turning it off solved the problem.
I don't remember quite where it was. Perhaps this will jog someone
else's memory and they can point to it.
Ross Bernheim
On Oct 1, 2006, at 22:05, Adrian Try wrote:
When I try to save, I can navigate to the shared folder on the Windows
On Sep 25, 2006, at 20:54, Kirill S. Palagin wrote:
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Subject: Re: [users] Re: Two ways Microsoft sabotages Linux
desktop adoption
company use MS Word
On Sep 26, 2006, at 0:20, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Correct. One area that I haven't had a problem yet with, is
Accessno one
is using it that I've dealt with. I'd like to hear from someone who
has and
what they did to replace Access and if so, did they use Base or
something
else that will
On Sep 26, 2006, at 13:03, James McKenzie wrote:
James McKenzie wrote:
Ross Bernheim wrote:
On Sep 25, 2006, at 20:54, Kirill S. Palagin wrote:
What specifically is inconvinient in supporting Word/Excel?
Because I need to convert the document and save it in Word/Excel
format rather
On Sep 23, 2006, at 0:54, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Fred,
Not all cases are the same. Businesses vary quite a bit. Some are
totally locked down and controlled. Others
are much less controlling and only step in when there is a problem. I
have seen a whole range of situations.
If it is a
Jeffery,
What operating system are you using? I have no problems with this on my
Mac running OS X 10.4.
Ross Bernheim
On Sep 25, 2006, at 14:10, Jeffery Small wrote:
In the next release, will there be support for dual-headed displays
running
separate window managers on each display
Fred,
Not all cases are the same. Businesses vary quite a bit. Some are
totally locked down and controlled. Others
are much less controlling and only step in when there is a problem. I
have seen a whole range of situations.
If it is a controlling situation and the boss says MS Office, then
On Sep 22, 2006, at 0:20, Kirill S. Palagin wrote:
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In ALL cases, management
Fred,
Many find it 'difficult' to move from a tool that they are familiar
with and
comfortable using. It also takes time and effort to learn something new.
In order for these people to change, the thing that they are changing to
has to be not just a bit better, but significantly better in
percentage of them to
either
use or switch to OOo is unrealistic at this point. Working towards
having a
greater awareness of OOo and higher adoption rates is very realistic.
Ross Bernheim
On Sep 19, 2006, at 17:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think some of the greatest opportunities
to it and there is
a cost in effort to switch. ODF won' do it as everyone he exchanges
files with uses Word.
Any other motivators that I can use?
Ross Bernheim
On Sep 20, 2006, at 12:25, Terence W C Warby wrote:
I would have thought that working in a small business would have made
it easier to adopt
Fred,
He won't buy a new computer with Vista just because it is new. We
continue to
use our computers until they will not run the needed versions of the
software we
use or die beyond economical repair. It will be a few years at least
until he gets
a new computer.
Ross
On Sep 20, 2006, at
use. However doing so could
possibly cause other
problems.
Ross Bernheim
On Sep 14, 2006, at 9:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi. I need to know if I can install Open Office on an Ubuntu system ?
Which system do I choose to install, windows or Lynux? I need a
version for French, is there one
Adrian,
Thank you for the tip. I will download it and hopefully it will make my
required use of Windows
at work a bit easier.
The many eyes at work. OOo.
Ross Bernheim
On Sep 7, 2006, at 5:39, Adrian Try wrote:
I have the same problem in Calc as the OP. Using Windows XP (Home)
SP2; OOo
Benton
The X-11 download from Apple is an older version and not for 10.4x
which is what
your Macbook pro has on it. You need to install the X-11 from the
install disk that
came with your computer. Just do a custom install and select the
optional X-11
package.
Ross
On Sep 3, 2006, at 13:13,
OOo 2.0 on it as well as my other Macs
and Linux boxes.
Install X-11 on your Mac and enjoy OOo on OS X.
Ross Bernheim
On Aug 15, 2006, at 17:41, Cary Howe wrote:
Looks like my migration to Mac is costing me Open
Office. After waiting forever for an Intel Mac version
I tried to in stall
of differences in
how OOo and the Mac OS X handle things that the ported version of OOo
has to work a bit
differently on the Mac.
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Kyhana,
Can you print from other applications to your printer under
OS X 10.4.x? If not, then get that working first. I have noticed
that OOo 2.x won't let me print to other than a generic printer,
but that works as it goes to the Apple Personal Laserwiter NTR
that I have on my network using an
and as part of OOo it
is integrated into OOo and is available for the cost of a download.
Ross Bernheim
On Jun 15, 2006, at 10:58, joann kokindo wrote:
Ackkk file maker.. so much for spell checking
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to figure out how to
locate/install the correct x11. It won't install. I DON'T HAVE THE
DVD DISK.
I've tried everything, several versions.
Can't run OpenOffice. PLEASE HELP !
It is on the DVD that came with your Mac. Else download from Apple's
web site.
Ross Bernheim
in the older
OOo format that it handles, likewise, no problems.
Ross Bernheim
On Apr 26, 2006, at 10:04, Shekhar Patil wrote:
Hi! I have a Wndows XP based PC at home and I am thinking of buying an
Apple G4. If I save all documents in the Wndows XP format using
OpenOffice
Writer, will I be able
Mark,
I have found that pasting twice seems to do the trick. It appears to be
a focus
issue between Aqua and X11 as near as I can tell. I paste quite often
between
Aqua apps and OOo on 10.3.9 and 10.4.x.
Ross Bernheim
On Apr 26, 2006, at 12:58, L. Mark Stone wrote:
Running OOo 2.0.2
.
For 10.2.8 you need to look to another source for X-11. Installing
either the BSD ports
or Fink (with the Fink Commander GUI) should allow the installation of
a third party
X-11 package.
Ross Bernheim
On Apr 5, 2006, at 13:45, CPHennessy wrote:
On Tue April 4 2006 08:34, + Backstage wrote
and paste between X11
applications and Quartz applications among other niceties.
OOo will launch X11 when you start OOo.
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an Apple Personal
Laserwriter NTR and it sits on the ethernet network via an ethernet to
Appletalk/Localtalk bridge. For some reason, OOo won't let me add it
and I can only print to the generic printer, but it works.
Ross Bernheim
On Mar 13, 2006, at 11:27, Don Vawter wrote:
When I attempt to load
or printer model in the dialog. It does print to the printer
fine
though.
Yes, the Mac mini is probably using Rosetta to get OOo to work, but
work it does and at a good rate.
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of
entries in the folder and then
NeoOffice/J was much faster opening the folder.
Ross Bernheim
On Mar 5, 2006, at 16:58, Joseph Hogan wrote:
Hello,
I decided to take the plunge, and start using Neo Office.
I have the latest version. I am using an upgraded Mac (G4 350MHz to
a 1.6GHz).
I
and are using. If you have a lot of programs open and
insufficient memory,
OOo and NeoOffice/J use a lot of memorty.) You might be swapping memory
out to disk which
might account for the problem.
Ross Bernheim
On Mar 6, 2006, at 12:40, Joseph Hogan wrote:
Hello
Thanks for the help.
I am
not
be available. On the other hand, many laptops work well with Linux. In
the user group I
am in, Knottix has a good history with laptop installations. Others to
look at include
Ubuntu and Kubuntu. These last two are used a lot on Mac laptops
because they have PPC
support.
Ross Bernheim
Knoppix is a great way to probe and see if the hardware that you have
is supported under Linux. If all works well, albeit a bit slowly since
it
is running from CD, you can then install Knottix or Kubuntu or another
distribution to hard disk and gain the full speed.
Knottix and Kubuntu and
Andy,
You can try before you move the program to hard disk. I agree that it
is far better to move the program to the hard disk to run regularly.
The disk image is functional and for those programs that have an
installer, it saves having to move the unpacked installer to the hard
disk to add
of this is a bit basic, but there are many neophytes who
read this list and may not be familiar with it.
I use both OOo 2 and NeoOffic/J. Both have their charms and foibles.
Ross Bernheim
On Feb 20, 2006, at 19:25, Andrew Fisk wrote:
Ah ha!
Did you try dragging it to you applications
. Or there
is another program that has changed or corrupted something on your Mac
that causes the problem.
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If it did
download correctly, then the problem may well be the file on the OOO
server
and you should contact someone on the site to check it.
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NeoOffice/J in its latest version can read the odf but not
write to it.
Both the OOo and NeoOffice/J teams have slightly different visions. The
marvelous thing is that they can both follow their visions and we all
benefit from their generous efforts. Thank you gentlemen and ladies.
Ross Bernheim
as a pdf and attach it from the mail program. Not as convenient.
So the choice is yours as to which version of OOo you want to use.
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as easily out of
the box.
I would suggest asking the teachers what they would prefer. It is they
who the intended audience.
Ross Bernheim
On Jan 13, 2006, at 6:33, Anthony Chilco wrote:
Hi Carrie,
I'd suggest that your daughter submit (with her teacher's approval}
her work in PDF format
live in an interesting world with many OOo/NeoOffice/J
choices for use on our Macs.
Thanks for your additional input to the thread.
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handle the new
Open Document Format that OOo 2 handles as its default native file
format. But OOo
2 can still read and write the older format.
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files on
a samba server. I just fired up OOo 2.0 to work on an MS Word file with
graphics
on a CD and saved it out to my local disk.
I would move exclusively to OOo 2.0 if it could read and write files
from my server.
Ross Bernheim
app and shows in
the toolbar itself
rather than a start OOo app.
Still using mostly NeoOffice/J 'til they fix the problem with OOo 2.0
working with files on
the samba server.
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On Nov 9, 2005, at 10:37, Paul wrote:
Have a look at :
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?
t=5691highlight=network+map
I believe that it is a known bug.
/paul
On 11/10/05, Christian Ojeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, i using Open Office 2.0, Windows 98SE and my net fileserver
and
treated almost like an official port of OOo for a long while. This was
due to the difficulties and time it was taking to do an official port to
the Mac OS X.
So chill. A gentle reminder is all that is needed.
Apologies if I misconstrued anyone's position or intent.
Ross Bernheim
A happy OOo
.
There are minor problems when he tries to do things beyond clever with
Word or
uses odd fonts that I don't have a similar enough or the same one on
the Mac so
that the formatting is off a bit.
Ross Bernheim
As Dorothy Parker said, If you can't say anything nice about anybody,
come
over here
problem as I do
almost all my work in OOo with files on the server.
Ross Bernheim
On Oct 28, 2005, at 3:30, Roberto Demarchi wrote:
Hi,
I cannot open files from my OO 2.0 on Mac X.
The files are located on a Windows HP server.
With OO 1.1 I did'nt have this problem.
Could someone help
exclusively from the Samba share on the sever, this problem is a
serious one for me. In the meantime I will continue to use the older
versions of OOo and NeoOffice.
Thanks for any help in solving this problem.
Ross Bernheim
The price of freedom is eternal litigation
10.39 and 10.4.x, x86's using both AMD
(Kubuntu) and Intel processors (PaPix), and AMD-64 running Knottix in
the 64 bit mode and an iBook (G3) running Kubuntu.
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On Oct 5, 2005, at 9:44, Chad Smith wrote:
On 10/5/05, Andrew Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Open Office does run on Macintosh OSX -- I would suggest that you
take a look at http://www.neooffice.org/ this is a much more mac
like version of open office. If you are running OS 9 or earlier you
On Oct 4, 2005, at 11:55, Chad Smith wrote:
On 10/4/05, Ross Bernheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NeoOffice/J is more Mac like and that is generally good. However,
I do notice that it takes several seconds for an open or save dialog
to open under NeoOffice/J whereas OOo does not have this lag
On Oct 5, 2005, at 14:17, Andrew Fisk wrote:
Ross wrote
I recently bought an iBook 500MHz with 2 usb and firewire interface
and
Mac OS 9.2 on it. Rather than try to put OS X on it which would have
taken up a major portion of the small hard disk, I put linux on it.
The
Kubuntu 5.10 Breezy
whereas OOo does not have this lag.
This is on an eMac 1.25 Ghz G4 with 1/2 Gig memory.
Also the printing process is a bit different between the two
programs, though easily adapted to whichever you prefer.
Ross Bernheim
On Oct 4, 2005, at 6:09, Chad Smith wrote:
Just use NeoOffice/J - no X11 required
can work with the files.
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On Jul 24, 2005, at 5:49, CPHennessy wrote:
Anthony,
Attachments on emails for this list are generally removed to avoid
problems
with viruses. Can you please write in text exactly what the error
message
was ?
Also have you used the CD to install OpenOffice.org on any other
computer
(just
Welcome,
There are templates for resumes on the OOo web site and elsewhere.
If you are on a Mac, OOo runs on the Mac under OS X with the X-11
windowing system that comes on
the installation disks and can be installed from there or downloaded
from Apple's web site.
As an alternative, you can
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