Re: [Vo]:ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES By A. Einstein

2014-02-20 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:06 AM, H Veeder wrote: As Dave has mentioned, Einstein's reason for postulating the constancy of c > was partly motivated by his examination of the laws of electrodynamics. > ... Here is the introduction to his paper ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING > BODIES. > That's

[Vo]:Time dilation twist. Plus how time travel.

2014-02-20 Thread John Berry
This post contains 2 thoughts, one an idea of how to show why time dilation in SR can't work, the other to point to interesting conclusions of various arguments. First is a train on a large turntable, the larger the turn table the less G force needs to be. The turn table either accelerates to a si

[Vo]:Recent patent for low temp He-3 production

2014-02-20 Thread pagnucco
Hopefully, this has not already been posted to Vortex -- Method for producing helium-3 using a hydrogenated lattice (red fusion) US 20130329844 A1 - Publication date Dec 12, 2013 Abstract Helium-3 (also known as He-3 or 2He3) is created in a nuclear fusion reaction by fusing Deuterium (1D2) ions

Re: [Vo]:Experiment Proves General Theory of Relativity to be one hundred million trillion times wrong!

2014-02-20 Thread John Berry
Here is a sample: http://benthamscience.com/ebooks/Sample/9781608053995-sample.pdf You can buy it for $30 here: http://www.eurekaselect.com/100222/chapter/study-of-light-interaction-with-gravity-impulses-and-measurements-of-the-speed-of-gravity-impulse You may be able to get it off this guy (Andr

Re: [Vo]:Experiment to answer relativistic magnetic field question!

2014-02-20 Thread John Berry
On further thought, I think I can debunk my own idea here. The problem is that if the magnetic field is not moving relative to the drifting electrons then it is moving relative to the circuit (volt meter probes) that check for the hall effect voltage, and these moving magnetic fields would be indu

Re: [Vo]:Experiment Proves General Theory of Relativity to be one hundred million trillion times wrong!

2014-02-20 Thread Axil Axil
Try This http://www.americanantigravity.com/news/space/eugene-podkletnov-on-antigravity.html I am looking for this paper: "Study of Light Interaction with Gravity Impulses and Measurements of the Speed of Gravity Impulses" I would love to read it if I could find it. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1

Re: [Vo]:Experiment Proves General Theory of Relativity to be one hundred million trillion times wrong!

2014-02-20 Thread a.ashfield
Has any later news of Podkletnov**surfaced? This wired article was interesting http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.03/antigravity_pr.html Sounds like Wired was persuaded the effect was real.

[Vo]:Experiment to answer relativistic magnetic field question!

2014-02-20 Thread John Berry
I have been trying to conceive of experiments that would give a different result based on if a magnetic field was created by only the electrons in a wire, or also created by the protons in a wire dependant on relative velocity. I have thought of many that do not even need testing and furnish the r

Re: [Vo]:Experiment Proves General Theory of Relativity to be one hundred million trillion times wrong!

2014-02-20 Thread Axil Axil
That's why there has been no follow up to this blunderously awesome "experiment" in eight years, This statement may not be correct...Recent work on anti gravity. http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1101/1101.2419.pdf Review of Poher experiment on fields produced by electric discharges in a superco

Re: [Vo]:Experiment Proves General Theory of Relativity to be one hundred million trillion times wrong!

2014-02-20 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Here's an arrogant reply I received regarding this article: Experiment that is almost certainly wrong, or large galaxies would be sucking their local small cluster galaxies in at rates that astronomers would have seen a long time ago. First: the article is wrong. The magnetic analogue of the grav

Re: [Vo]:If a moving electric field creates a magnetic field...

2014-02-20 Thread John Berry
Axil, This had no intentional relationship to the other thread. This post simply asks the question: If a magnetic field is observed to exist from a moving electric field, if the electric field if from a long (even infinity long) narrow spindle charged to a high potential, then what would the stre

Re: [Vo]:If a moving electric field creates a magnetic field...

2014-02-20 Thread Axil Axil
more... a background article as follows: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.03/antigravity_pr.html On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > The gravity modification principle explained in the other thread was based > on photons enclosed by a superconductor that are rotating at

Re: [Vo]:If a moving electric field creates a magnetic field...

2014-02-20 Thread Axil Axil
The gravity modification principle explained in the other thread was based on photons enclosed by a superconductor that are rotating at a rapid rate. All these requirements are included in the NiH reactor: widespread superconductivity, photons at extreme densities and just to cover all the bases d

Re: [Vo]:Re: Why Hot Water Freezes Faster Than Cold - Physicist Solve the Mpemba Effect

2014-02-20 Thread Mark Jurich
I wrote: Mpemba Paradox Revisited -- Numerical Reinforcement –> http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.1014 Structure order, local potentials, and physical anomalies of water ice: http://arxiv.org/abs/1402.3880 - Mark Jurich

[Vo]:If a moving electric field creates a magnetic field...

2014-02-20 Thread John Berry
I would have thought that relative motion to an electric field would probably create the observation of a magnetic field, both in SR (that I reject) and in an aether model. But I am starting to question that, I would appreciate any answer to the following: Take a long piece of dowel, apply charge

Re: [Vo]:Experiment Proves General Theory of Relativity to be one hundred million trillion times wrong!

2014-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:57 PM, John Berry wrote: > It does seem to be very similar the the initial Podkletnov effect. Dr. Ning Li's company went black around that time.

Re: [Vo]:What do . . .

2014-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Jones Beene wrote: >> Hmmm... I was looking for a Board member in common. > > A Tesla has a great grid leveling device on board. A power source, > constant or transient, could make for a autonomous vehicle.

Re: [Vo]:What do . . .

2014-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Hmmm... I was looking for a Board member in common. A Tesla has a great grid leveling device on board. A power source, constant or transient, could make for a autonomous vehicle. Of course, it's a fruity idea, eh?

RE: [Vo]:What do . . .

2014-02-20 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton BLP and Tesla Motors have in common? Hmmm... I was looking for a Board member in common. Does not seem to be the case. What I found was that three of BLP's prestigious former Board members, including Michael Jordan, former CEO of Westinghouse, seem

Re: [Vo]:Experiment Proves General Theory of Relativity to be one hundred million trillion times wrong!

2014-02-20 Thread John Berry
It does seem to be very similar the the initial Podkletnov effect. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > This article is from 2006. Has there been any update since then? When > are we allowed to say that Einstein's theory is off by 20 orders of > magnitude due to 250 experi

Re: [Vo]:Experiment Proves General Theory of Relativity to be one hundred million trillion times wrong!

2014-02-20 Thread Kevin O'Malley
This article is from 2006. Has there been any update since then? When are we allowed to say that Einstein's theory is off by 20 orders of magnitude due to 250 experiments performed? On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:51 PM, John Berry wrote: > > http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-First-Test-That-Prove

Re: [Vo]:Experiment Proves General Theory of Relativity to be one hundred million trillion times wrong!

2014-02-20 Thread Axil Axil
Here is a patent that describes how to build an anti-gravity engine. http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2012/11/anti-gravity-patent-available-for-development-2495864.html The NiH reactor will provide a good self contained power source for an anti-gravity vehicle. On Thu, Feb 20, 20

Re: [Vo]:Experiment Proves General Theory of Relativity to be one hundred million trillion times wrong!

2014-02-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
I agree, I thought I noticed in one of Rossi's videos the hot cat was moving around in the rack... On Thursday, February 20, 2014, Axil Axil wrote: > One of the unrecognized applications of the NiH reactor is its application > to gravity modification. > > According to the theory expressed in thi

Re: [Vo]:Experiment Proves General Theory of Relativity to be one hundred million trillion times wrong!

2014-02-20 Thread Axil Axil
One of the unrecognized applications of the NiH reactor is its application to gravity modification. According to the theory expressed in this thread, since the NiH reactor contains superconducting fields of distorted and degenerate vacuum energy generated by enormous self reinforcing magnetic fiel

[Vo]:What do . . .

2014-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
BLP and Tesla Motors have in common?

RE: [Vo]:Cold Fusion a Credible Future Shock

2014-02-20 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Alan Fletcher > The following is a selection of credible strategic shocks Here is another one which is more a twist on a known risk. And it could involve LENR but not in the way most are anticipating. The most credible and imminent future shock for the USA

[Vo]:Experiment Proves General Theory of Relativity to be one hundred million trillion times wrong!

2014-02-20 Thread John Berry
http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-First-Test-That-Proves-General-Theory-of-Relativity-Wrong-20259.shtml According to Einstein's theory of general relativity, a moving mass should create another field, called gravitomagnetic field, besides its static gravitational field. This field has now been me

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion a Credible Future Shock

2014-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
They need to read Jed's book.

Re: [Vo]:ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES By A. Einstein

2014-02-20 Thread John Berry
While I would still like to know what voltage a non-ferromagnetic N-machine generator will establish at different RPM's, I looked up and found that Depalma's chart of voltage to RPM in his Sunburst machine was linear, double the RPM produced double the output voltage. This would seem hard to expla

[Vo]:Cold Fusion a Credible Future Shock

2014-02-20 Thread Alan Fletcher
UK Ministry of Defence Document Lists Cold Fusion as ‘Credible Strategic Shock’ Links to :

Re: [Vo]:ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES By A. Einstein

2014-02-20 Thread John Berry
My view on SR is of course that it can not be possible. But it does give some interesting and correct answers, now impossible is still impossible, but... If we reduce the magnet in Einstein's example to an electromagnet, or better yet just one straight wire carrying a DC current. (or a macro model

[Vo]:urban farming.

2014-02-20 Thread Axil Axil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrpyUA1pQqE Will LENR help?

[Vo]:ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES By A. Einstein

2014-02-20 Thread H Veeder
As Dave has mentioned, Einstein's reason for postulating the constancy of c was partly motivated by his examination of the laws of electrodynamics. Here is the introduction to his paper ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES. You can see he is bothered by a lack of symmetry in the laws but a lack

[Vo]:FYI: The Third Way of Thermal-Electric Conversion...

2014-02-20 Thread Mark Jurich
The Third Way of Thermal-Electric Conversion beyond Seebeck and Pyroelectric Effects Thermal-electric conversion is crucial for smart energy control and harvesting, such as thermal sensing and waste heat recovering. So far, people are aware of only two ways of direct thermal-electric conversion

Re: [Vo]:Extraordinarily disappointing report

2014-02-20 Thread Axil Axil
If the past is prolog, the Papp engine produced very little if any heat. The same will be true for the Mills engine. Mills engine energy production will come from two places: pressure/shock wave expansion with associated plasma movement and the production of excess electrons. These two energy sour

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:50 PM, John Berry wrote: > But Terry, but are these epo's moving? No, unless they are hit by a photon which alters their polarization. Hotson explains it well in the referenced article. Although, it might help to read his first two articles before. www.zeitlin.net/Open

Re: [Vo]:Extraordinarily disappointing report

2014-02-20 Thread Bob Higgins
I thought it was an interesting report, but I think a fundamental issue may be getting missed in the calorimetry of the BLP experiment. As I understand it, the calorimeter was modified to have the large copper electrodes that supply the very high spot welder current placed into the test chamber.

RE: [Vo]:Curious paper from SLAC

2014-02-20 Thread Jones Beene
To add a few more details into the mix for future reference, here are some slides with most of the basic mathematical formalities. http://moriond.in2p3.fr/QCD/2011/FridayAfternoon/Pachucki.pdf The overriding proposition is this: Essentially

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-20 Thread David Roberson
Harry, that is an interesting experiment. I will certainly give it some thought since it approaches the problem from a different angle. (pun intended) This is similar to the case where a second non moving charge counters the initial repulsion. My first thought is that this idea might revea

RE: [Vo]:Curious paper from SLAC

2014-02-20 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Bob Cook Check out the current (Feburary) issue of Scientific American--page 32--regarding the radius of the proton. Seems the wave functions overlap better than one might have concluded from old theory. The researchers have interesting connections to active lon

Re: [Vo]:The Chiral Magnetic Effect (CME)

2014-02-20 Thread Bob Cook
Axil-- How do you get wind of all these good items? Bob From: Axil Axil Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:10 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:The Chiral Magnetic Effect (CME) http://physik.uni-graz.at/~dk-user/talks/Chernodub_25112013.pdf A 10^16 magnetic field will deconfine the quarks in t

RE: [Vo]:Extraordinarily disappointing report

2014-02-20 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: a.ashfield > 0.5 C is easy enough to measure. What I found disappointing was the COP = 2.8 Even that inflated estimate could go away with a poof when they measure P-in from the wall, which should always be done with pulsed power. But the huge disappointment in

Re:[Vo]:Extraordinarily disappointing report

2014-02-20 Thread a.ashfield
JOnes, 0.5 C is easy enough to measure. What I found disappointing was the COP = 2.8

Re: [Vo]:Curious paper from SLAC

2014-02-20 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-Axil, Ed, etal Check out the current (Feburary) issue of Scientific American--page 32--regarding the radius of the proton. Seems the wave functions overlap better than one might have concluded from old theory. The researchers have interesting connections to active long-term LENR theory

[Vo]:Plastic detector progress video

2014-02-20 Thread fznidarsic
If I can't solve the world's energy problems perhaps I can help manage its waste. Progress report on #1 plastic detector. Video linked below type mp4 5 MB. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/PlasticDetect.mp4 Frank Znidarsic

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

2014-02-20 Thread Roarty, Francis X
[snip] So it makes far more sense to consider this proof of something that can exist, the aether, than proof of something that can't (all frames being equal and experiencing unequal time dilation equally).[/snip] EXACTLY! Our metrics of time and distance all assume physical objects to limit disp

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-20 Thread John Berry
Correction: If the result of the magnetic force being seen to act on one frame as expected from the flux in another leads to a dramatic and non-trivial paradox, it is going to be harder to keep up the delusion that such is possible. If an observer in another frame expects a force to exist in the

Re: [Vo]:Extraordinarily disappointing report

2014-02-20 Thread Nigel Dyer
Is this a report of the same demo for which we previously saw the video. I dont think the high voltage arc discharges appeared in the video, and seem to be quite different to the low voltage electric arc welder style demo. Both demos come within the patent description. For the high voltage

Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law

2014-02-20 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM, H Veeder wrote: > Dramatic! > > As alternate way of revealing the paradox, I imagined the two charged > balls connected by a spring which counter balances the force of repulsion. > In the reference frame where the balls are moving, a magnetic force would > cause t