[Vo]:Major Coral Bleaching Crisis Spreads Worldwide

This is mainly for Stewart (ChemE) due to his hypothesis that pulsed Doppler radar is damaging coral reefs, but thought the Collective might like to see it as well. http://www.biosciencetechnology.com/news/2015/10/scientists-major-coral-blea ching-crisis-spreads-worldwide -mark iverson

[Vo]:Water, out with the old, in with the new? U-tube vid

ted as usual when quantum coherence is present. Could be connection as to the missing neutrons in LENR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Qrn-jrbfE First part is some history. starts to get interesting at ~10 mins into the talk. -mark iverson

[Vo]:FYI: Ultra-fine grain nickel

Don't think this is relevant to LENR, but thought I'd transfer the knowledge into the Collective in case it triggers something. http://phys.org/news/2013-10-method-stronger-nickel.html -mark

[Vo]:Of Embrittlement and NAEs...

Hydrogen embrittlement in martensitic steels" http://web.brasimone.enea.it/mat/hydrogen/hydindex.htm What happens when embrittlement occurs in a metal??? Can you say, NAE??? ;-) Jones... race ya to the bottom of this hole! J -Mark Iverson <>

[Vo]:FYI: New experiments challenge fundamental understanding of electromagnetism

hould be done to confirm the theory, and other experiments should also confirm the findings. However, if no errors are found in the theory and the NIST experiment is correct, some physics outside of QED must be present." -Mark Iverson

[Vo]:More delusional scientists, and over 60,000 publications!

standing of the mechanism." Obviously they don't know how to make simple measurements, and must be engaged in a massive instance of self-delusion/group-think, or the grandest conspiracy to maintain their funding. Makes LENR look like small potatoes. -Mark Iverson

[Vo]:Is Lockheed's Skunk Works into LENR?

No, it isn't LENR, but it does use Deuterium as a fuel. and RF energy to heat the fuel. Small, simple (relatively speaking) and scalable. and commercial by 2025. "Nuclear Fusion in Five Years?" http://www.engineering.com/DesignerEdge/DesignerEdgeArticles/ArticleID/5388/ Nuclear-Fusion-in-Five

[Vo]:Can Fields Induce Other Fields in Vacuum?

FYI: this forwarded to me by a colleague. -Mark Trouble with Maxwell's Electromagnetic Theory: Can Fields Induce Other Fields in Vacuum? http://vixra.org/pdf/1206.0083v5.pdf Abstract The purpose of this article is to point out that Maxwell's electromagnetic theory, believed by the ma

[Vo]:FYI: Researchers control chemical reactions in individual atoms...

"Researchers devise a means to control chemical reactions in individual atoms" http://phys.org/news/2012-07-chemical-reactions-individual-atoms.html They're getting closer to doing the experiment I suggested over a year ago. "In their experiments, the team used a magnetic field to isolate

[Vo]:Also from the DARPA doc... Can you say, 'Person of Interest'?

Life imitating Art, or vice-a-versa? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Person_of_Interest_episodes http://www.cbs.com/shows/person_of_interest/episodes/ Title: Anomaly Detection at Multiple Scales (ADAMS) Description: The Anomaly Detection at Multiple Scales (ADAMS) program will d

[Vo]:Two papers of interest... more clues for dipolar-like electron structure.

I know both of these effects are found in very cold samples, and what possible relevance could they have for LENR??? Well, in ordinary condensed matter I would say NONE, but H/D-loaded metal lattices are NOT ordinary condensed matter. There could likely be small localized regions where coherence

[Vo]:Remote Joule heating in Carbon nanotubes

FYI: http://phys.org/news/2012-04-carbon-nanotubes-weird-world-remote.html "This is a new phenomenon we're observing, exclusively at the nanoscale, and it is completely contrary to our intuition and knowledge of Joule heating at larger scales-for example, in things like your toaster," says fir

RE: [Vo]:Requesting recommendations on Web Authoring tools & animation generation packages

Guys, can you please move any further discussion about web-tools to vortex-B??? -Mark From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:35 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Requesting recommendations on Web Authoring tools & an

RE: [Vo]:Strobe-light for atoms... cont'd

sides at various inclinations described in the figure by the angles phi and theta. In this way, the researcher can tune the interaction-force on demand. I wonder if they can do this with just a single atom, of any flavor? -Mark From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charte

Re: [Vo]:The power generator that runs by water

Just fwding this from zt. it went to my personal email but could be of interest to the Collective. -mark http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en

RE: [Vo]:

It is most likely a phishing expedition! I've been in the Collective for several years and have *never* seen that kind of msg from eskimo.com (the domain where this mail-list is hosted). Any emails asking for username/password should be ignored! Legit companies will never ask you to supp

[Vo]:FYI: interesting (or more like long overdue) findings on structure of atomic nucleus...

New picture of atomic nucleus emerges http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-03-picture-atomic-nucleus-emerges.html ".a quarter of the nucleons in a dense nucleus exceed 25 percent of the speed of light, turning the picture of a static nucleus on its head." Hell, I could have told then that!

RE: [Vo]:A new use for the Vortex ... Vortex Radio Waves

Kewl! And so kind of them to name it after this forum! :-) -Original Message- From: Ron Wormus [mailto:prot...@frii.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:18 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:A new use for the Vortex ... Vortex Radio Waves Really creative!

RE: [Vo]:To Radiate or Not to Radiate

uld create some kind of bias current and charge buildup that would be interpreted as a positive hit by the electronics. I could reversed the polarity but that does not remove the charge buildup problem. Not sure if this would work. More experiment is required. - Original Messag

RE: [Vo]:To Radiate or Not to Radiate

Then there is the problem that energetic particles may be oriented in a particular direction, so where do you place your detector? It probably depends somewhat on the geometry of the core, and the orientation of its physical structure. If you have the resources, obtain multiple detectors and plac

RE: [Vo]:Krivit on SPAWAR LENR Shut-down

These comments are interesting: "In response to your recent query," Fallin wrote, "while I won't discuss details of our internal decision-making processes, I will confirm SPAWAR plans no further low-energy nuclear reaction (LENR) research. There are other organizations within the federal government

[Vo]:FYI: faster than a speeding electron... how fast is that??? Radar gun for electron flow...

Just some interesting science. http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-electron-detection-breakthrough-unleash- next-generation-technologies.html "The researchers discovered that by shining light from a high-power laser onto a material that contains moving electrons, light of a different color i

RE: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

Daniel: As DGT has stated SEVERAL times, is it up to the visiting entities, NOT DGT, to release test results!!! You are not reading things correctly.. perhaps because English is not your native language. Those entities, if they CHOOSE to release the results, will very likely do it via the mai

RE: [Vo]:Over unity at MIT

PDF was too large, so go get U.S. Patent No. 0119825, McFarland. -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:29 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Over unity at MIT Terry - Not sure I follow. Are you saying that "virtual

RE: [Vo]:Over unity at MIT

The key wording is here: "A heated semiconductor light-emitting diode at low forward bias voltage Vmailto:danieldi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:21 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Over unity at MIT Why do you think it would violate the 2nd law? I don't under

RE: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

Noone^2 wrote: "I not a very jovial person." Yaaa think? J Whatever the baggage you're carrying around with you, don't you think it's time to let it go? It does nothing by make one's life miserable and full of drama. -m

RE: [Vo]:Protestants vs Catholics

I think Reality has been talking to Rich Murray! :-) -mark -Original Message- From: integral.property.serv...@gmail.com [mailto:integral.property.serv...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:28 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Protestants vs Catholics Terry, The 21st c

RE: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report : Theory?

It's KEN Shoulders, not Ed Shoulders... -Original Message- From: Zell, Chris [mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:34 PM To: 'vortex-l@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report : Theory? To explain: Ed Shoulders is not some ill-educat

RE: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report

Frank: Nothing I read indicates that it's a "magnet motor". It uses a 'modified' motor, and I'm sure it has magnets or electromagnets, but nothing indicated that it was purely a magnet motor. Please show where you got that impression. -Mark From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@ao

RE: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

Morning Jed, Very first impression upon seeing it was well done; simple and organized. First paragraph summarizes its purpose, and first page summarizes the content to be found. No BS distracting one's eye from the real info... good job! -Mark From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gma

RE: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

What was interesting in the e-catsite.com article was this: ". soon on this site I will post an article and details regarding an LANR (lattice-assisted nuclear reaction) patent that has been translated into English and made available to this site by its author. The patent was originally granted i

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

Terry the interrygator asks: "How old is your hotmail account?" Good question! Enquiring minds want to know... But being the well seasoned troll that MY is, he probably has several alter-egos so when one of them is banned, and questions arise as to when #2 started, as is the case here, he can

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

Oh no. sounds like MaryYugo's brother. only worse. Jarold, GET OVER IT! Just wait it out like the rest of us. Or, get some people and equipment together and try to replicate it like a few of us. If it makes you feel good, just call it a fraud and move on. nothing to see here. -Mark

[Vo]:Of Nuclear Masses and MIT...

Jones: FYI: your intuitive ruminations about the a.m.u and nuclear masses not being all that 'constant' just might prove insightful! In his latest paper, Hagelstein mentions that excited nuclei have differing masses. The problem he has encountered is that traditional models for condensed matter

RE: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter

lumination images show X-like nanowires lying flat against the substrate with fused joints." -Mark From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:40 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed

RE: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter

Axil wrote: "There are many new quantum mechanical experiments done recently that show how quantum wells transfer coherence between quantum particle types of all kinds. I just saw one where a photon can spin a tiny quantum wheel...light to mechanical energy." Here's the reference: http://www

RE: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter

The key phrase in the abstract is: "In the resulting model, there appears a new term in which nuclear transitions are coupled to lattice vibrations." I wonder if Hagelstein has been reading Znidarsic's work? :-) -m -Original Message- From: David ledin [mailto:mathematic.analy...@gmail.co

RE: [Vo]:Comment from Dr Mitchell Schwartz on Krivit

As has been stated, we don't have the details, so we are speculating. From: Robert Leguillon [mailto:robert.leguil...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:58 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Comment from Dr Mitchell Schwartz on Krivit So, they made a control run, wit

RE: [Vo]:Comment from Dr Mitchell Schwartz on Krivit

Don't understand the confusion. The LEFT half of the chart has the word 'CONTROL' written above it in BIG letters, the RIGHT half has NANOR above it; NANOR being Schwartz's acronym for his version of LENR technology. The traces look to be continuous (i.e., from the same sensors), thus, he must

RE: [Vo]:Comment from Dr Mitchell Schwartz on Krivit

And those of you on both sides of this, including Dr. Schwartz, failed to see/acknowledge that the 'claims' that Krivit was reporting were QUOTES from OTHER LENR researchers (W&L???). For example: [researcher#1] "New Energy Times had received a tip from a LENR researcher that the gain was 18

RE: [Vo]:Clues...

Oops! Jones corrected my error where I said... "and the three charged leptons (i.e., electron, muon and tau) each have integer spin." I meant to say *half-integer spin*... Thx Jones! -Mark From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Friday, February

RE: [Vo]:3M speculation on Cold Fusion

But the nuclear active layer is very thin... -mark -Original Message- From: Nigel Dyer [mailto:l...@thedyers.org.uk] Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:3M speculation on Cold Fusion I once heard it said that the common denominator behind a

[Vo]:Clues...

Food for thought... I'm looking at wikipedia's "List of elementary particles" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_particles and all Quarks and Leptons have an opposite (anti)... and the three charged leptons (i.e., electron, muon and tau) each have integer spin. I would argue, and this

RE: [Vo]:Cross-over technology

Jones: Just adding to the 'clues'... this from my posting Dec.17, 2011. Look for phi-ratios in the numbers... -Mark = "Golden ratio" hints at hidden atomic symmetry Jan. 7, 2010 Courtesy Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres and World Science By tuning the system the resear

RE: [Vo]:ET - Call home

Robin comments on Heisenberg Uncertainty applied to remote viewing: "I am beginning to suspect that there is a Heisenberg uncertainty aspect to remote viewing. The more clearly something is seen, the less is known about where or when it is. :)" I think this could also apply to Rossi's progress tow

RE: [Vo]:Verisimilitude, lies, and true lies Part 1

Jones: You might want to follow this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg35942.html The quote from the PhysOrg article which starts the thread is this: "So you have one set of data that tells you the mass-dependence picture doesn't work and another that tells you the densit

RE: [Vo]:Alan, what is SPAWAR "B A N" ? ? ?

The thread subject was: "Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research" It was initiated by Jed in this posting: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg59243.html Note that Jed misspelled SPAWAR (SAPWAR) in the opening sentence... With further comments here: http://w

RE: [Vo]:ET - Call home

Daniel: Without getting an explanation from the source, i.e., a Sumerian scribe, how do we know FOR SURE what the PROPER meanings should be in those 'dictionaries'??? The meanings that ended up there are LIKELY influenced by what the current thinking is on cosmology and other scientific fields of

RE: [Vo]:What Bill B. said, to the second power

Bill: Don't know if you're aware, but MY's true identity has been determined... It started with a discovery by Robert Leguillon in this post: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg62551.html And Terry added some additional thoughts in subsequent posts... The discourse has returne

[Vo]:RE: [Vo]:"The cooper pair dance".

Lou: I looked at the subject lines of the author's other papers and it seems he's focused on ball lightning... and it may be relevant. The other thing that comes to mind are 'charge clusters' which came out of Ken Shoulders' and Hal Puthoff's research. Try searching for 'charge clusters' and/or

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

JoJo wrote: "Axil, Please, by all means keep the speculations and the "embarrassing" experimental advice coming. I have learned a lot from you and many other people here. Vortex has been the most useful forum as far as gaining insight into replicating Rossi. And PeterB wrote: "I have only b

RE: [Vo]:Name that tune

- From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < <mailto:zeropo...@charter.net> zeropo...@charter.net> To: vortex-l < <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:23 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:Name that tune David: Who knows what Rossi is using for the hea

RE: [Vo]:Name that tune

David: Who knows what Rossi is using for the heating elements! J Things change on a weekly basis with him… IIRC, earlier last year, Rossi said they used a “Programmable Lighting Controller”… PLC. However, that acronym has different meanings; to most in the USA, PLC stands for “Programmabl

vortex-l@eskimo.com

Giovanni/Daniel: I just want to thank you both for taking time to analyze carefully the W-L paper. We could use more theoretical types in the 'Collective'. -Mark From: Giovanni Santostasi [mailto:gsantost...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:06 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject:

RE: [Vo]:What Bill B. said, to the second power

So MaryYugo was still using HIS female-sounding pseudonym instead of HIS real name??? HE must think we're really stupid. is HE not aware of the fact that HIS identity has been clearly established??? Randy, send me HIS response and I'll look it over. -Mark From: Randy Wuller [mailto:rwul

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

In the first video that I watched, when the camera panned left to view the gas cylinder on the floor, they blurred out the vid shortly after the tank came into view... so are they conscious of what gets onto a video??? Yes... -mark -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbe

[Vo]:magnetic monopoles and nuclear transmutations

Equation for Light Leptonic Magnetic Monopole and its Experimental Aspects Georges Lochak http://arxiv.org/abs/0801.2752 An excerpt from the Abstract: "Our monopoles are magnetically excited neutrinos, which leads to experimental consequences. These monopoles are assumed to be produced by el

RE: [Vo]:RE: Defkalion video of internal testing

There seems to be the assumption that the video is an example of their latest and greatest level of heat generation! I may have missed it, but there is no such statement by DGT to that effect... it is just an example of *some* testing going on. Unfortunately, this smacks of the same kind of incon

RE: [Vo]:A huge Rossi (bad) thing to be revealed soon. (Daniele Passerini)

: [Vo]:A huge Rossi (bad) thing to be revealed soon. (Daniele Passerini) --- On Sat, 1/28/12, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > As the one who 'rode her ass' a number of times, I have said that her > (his) technical criticisms were WELCOME... but to lay off the focus on > the p

RE: [Vo]:A huge Rossi (bad) thing to be revealed soon. (Daniele Passerini)

Agreed, 110%... -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:A huge Rossi (bad) thing to be revealed soon. (Daniele Passerini) On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Andre Blum wrote: > I

RE: [Vo]:A huge Rossi (bad) thing to be revealed soon. (Daniele Passerini)

Abd: Yes, you did indeed miss something... You are really out of touch with what went on, and WHY she was ultimately banned... Tell you what... you go back and read ALL 900+ of her (his) postings since only 11/10/2011, and then tell me that you still think that! Out of those 900+ postings, I wou

[Vo]:Fate of the quark model...

I was reading the abstract for "Anomalous mass of the neutron", 11/21/2011 on Rossi's JONP site, and there was this phase, "The quark model (d,u,d)." Is this perhaps descriptive of the quark model's ultimate fate? J -Mark

RE: [Vo]:Chirping sounds in nature

Jean: Do a web-search for Myron Evans. He was a very prolific scientist/mathematician, and published quite a number (over 100) of papers. One topic he did considerable work on was RF-induced fermion resonances using *circularly-polarized* RF, and I think there were also papers on pulsed RF.

RE: [Vo]:Chirping sounds in nature

Sounds like a horny cricket likes the warmth of his ham-shack! J My dad was a ham. W6PXZ. Good memories. From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:37 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Chirping sounds in nature From: jean guy moreau

RE: [Vo]:The color of vortex?

Check out his youtube channel, http://www.youtube.com/user/magnetvortex and some of the comments on the lower-RH side, including link to this pdf. http://www.free-energy-info.com/VladimirUtkin.pdf -mark _ From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo

RE: [Vo]:The color of vortex?

s a strong UV component now, which was absent before. _____ From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint RE: Jones 'the color of vortex' The video dude says: "I am building Kapanadze type coils and modulating them with audio waves with multiple harmonics&q

RE: [Vo]:The color of vortex?

RE: Jones 'the color of vortex' The video dude says: "I am building Kapanadze type coils and modulating them with audio waves with multiple harmonics" So, he is modulating the coil with audio-frequencies (20Hz to 20Khz???), and the bulb is somewhere in the circuit containing the K-coil(s)??? Have

RE: [Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and vibrational modes (phonons)...

Morning guys! Yes, the state-space involves numerous variables, and their interactions (e.g., CONstructive vs DEstructive interference)... trying to model it, understand it, and then control it will likely be a monumental task. The complexity of the problem, and it's sensitivity to precise freque

RE: [Vo]:Problem with flow calorimetry in Defkalion system

I was under the impression that the physical shape of Rossi's core was similar to what was used in DGT's Hyperion? More of a low-height, rectangular shape... -m -Original Message- From: Alan J Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 4:14 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.c

[Vo]:Resonances: Coupling between electronic states and vibrational modes (phonons)...

FYI: The presence of excess heat, and [near] lack of high-E particles/photons from LENR reactions would require coupling the large amount of E into the lattice vibrations (phonon modes) instead of into gammas (photons) or particles (neutrons and subsequently, dead grad-students). The article belo

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Best Chance

Jones: A few questions... I have specific reasons for each one. 1) When you refer to the variable mass of a proton, are you thinking about H, or protons in all elements? 2) If the mass of a proton = m_sub_p +- m_sub_v , would the variability (m_sub_v) be less than or equal to the total mass of th

RE: [Vo]:LEAD shielding - a dual purpose?

Hi Steven... Think the most likely explanation is that Rossi was trying to throw people off his trail; slow them down. If the competition thinks that gammas are produced in copious numbers, they will be looking at the wrong theoretical explanations... he's leading the snakes down the wrong hole

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Best Chance

don't have the answer, but it was my assumption, about control. Quiescence does not seems to be a problem with DGT according to their talk and (more important) to their test protocol (which does talk about continuous heat). 2012/1/24 Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint Question: Could the quiesc

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Best Chance

No complaints here Axil. as far as I can recall, your postings have a high SNR, very little repetition, good links to references. Like Horace, you tend to ignore the non-technical discussions, and seem to like working on a theoretical understanding. That's great! As far as the 'indiscretion' is

RE: [Vo]:MgH2 as hydrogen source

Chan has put up a website, but there's nothing there yet. claims he's too busy to engage in conversations. http://chanfusionpower.chan.host-ed.me/ -m From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:18 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:MgH2 as hydro

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Best Chance

slight loss of mass form the prior Hyperion run will not be noticed, since the "depleted H2" can still be oxidized in a chemical reaction. Jones From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint Jones wrote: "Stated simply, quiescence involves "too much depletion" in the mass o

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Best Chance

nate the problem with periodic dumping of H2 and reloading (every few hours) on a set schedule. There is evidence that DGT may be doing this already. Jones From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint If quiescence is a reality, and *if* it will require a scientific/QM understanding, the I don

RE: [Vo]:Problem with flow calorimetry in Defkalion system

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > At 01:19 PM 1/24/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: >> >> I believe they want "professional organizations." > > > I'm a professional!  All we need to do is organize! Oh well, so much for that idea! Getting the Collective organized would be more di

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Best Chance

window in it to see when the powder was fluidizing... On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: Jones: If you are filling a bucket with water at 1 liter/min., and draining it at 0.99 l/min, it will take awhile, but will fill up and eventually overflow. Question: Could the q

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Best Chance

eventually builds up to begin melting the Ni tubercles, slowly quenching the 'active area'? If so, then my initial thoughts don't apply and it is an engineering problem. -Mark From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:40

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Best Chance

On 24 January 2012 19:40, David Roberson wrote: I agree that they must have a well designed and functioning control unit to prevent meltdown. If quiescence is a reality, and *if* it will require a scientific/QM understanding, the I don't think any amount of 'control engineering' is going to b

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Best Chance

Lots of good, and *rational*, skepticism going on today. Rossi's failure to deliver is likely due to the lack of competent experts in the required technologies (physics, engineering), and that is probably due to his ego and/or paranoia of someone stealing his 'secret sauce'. DGT differs in tha

[Vo]:insightful and concise...

In the interim, while the Collective was being purged of trolls, there were a few comments that went on thru the backup vortex, and I'd like to bring one very insightful comment by Mr. Beene over to this, the main forum, for posterity. The thread was about Rossi and DGT, what the coming year wi

RE: [Vo]:REMOVING RULE2 VIOLATORS, 'subscribe' blocked.

E.L. Mr. Bill Beaty, the list founder and benevolent, and mostly absent, dictator, shut The Collective down for ~24 hours after flushing the trolls down the . well, use your imagination. It is back online now and the signal-to-noise ratio is climbing fast! -Mark From: Energy Liberator

RE: [Vo]:The Garbage Collection of a Fool's Imagination

Sure there is.. a hip dude by the name of P. Floyd talks all about it! Hmmm, for some strange reason, I'm feeling comfortably numb... :-) -Original Message- From: Kyle Mcallister [mailto:kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 10:32 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: R

RE: [Vo]:The Garbage Collection of a Fool's Imagination

Dear Giovanni, Your post was NOT trolling. I am probably the one most responsible for your reticence or concern about posting because I came down pretty hard on the trolls. and that probably has a few of you concerned about getting the same kind of treatment. *Please forgive me*, that is not

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion is open for testing as from now

A few thoughts come to mind. I think this forum can put together a team that would do a great job of testing. I know who would NOT be a good choice: - NOT a university that has any involvement with hot fusion, CERN, etc. - NOT a govt agency; can't trust them to be honest, or to do it effi

[Vo]:New class of electron interactions in quantum systems

Now that those pesky, annoying trolls have been flushed. oh, better be careful since my SO is of Scandanavian descent, and just loves the little buggers.. We can get back to the fun stuff! New class of electron interactions in quantum systems http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-class-electron-int

RE: [Vo]:REMOVING RULE2 VIOLATORS, 'subscribe' blocked.

ChemE, I think most of us have a healthy skepticism, especially when it comes to Rossi, and that is always in the back of our minds, but the whole purpose is to keep an open-mind, ask ourselves 'what if.' and run with that to see where is leads. engage in discussions, see things from different per

RE: [Vo]:REMOVING RULE2 VIOLATORS, 'subscribe' blocked.

Hi Jouni, Don’t know if the software, which is quite old, can do what you request, however, when the Collective’s toilet gets backed up with turds, Mr. Bill (Beaty) comes in to unplug and flush the toilet… so, it should last for awhile. -Mark From: Jouni Valkonen [mailto:jounivalko...@g

RE: [Vo]:Ampenergo's email is disabled

@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:33 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ampenergo's email is disabled On 23/01/2012 5:56 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > Thank you Susan for triggering a major point about the so-called > skeptics, now obviously fitting the defi

RE: [Vo]:Opponents should please go away and form your own group

Bill, There are many new-comers to the Collective due to vortex-l being mentioned on one or more of the websites covering the whole Rossi/E-Cat fiasco... and because of that, there have been numerous requests for references, which of course Vorts, and mostly Jed, have kindly provided links. So the

RE: [Vo]:Rossi lies again to cover his data fraud

Shaun, You do realize that the RFG was not used in the first several E-Cat demos, aren't you? Oh, that's right, how could you??? Since you just swooped in and started barfing your accusations and speculations all over the place before doing your homework! Not unlike Mary, but at least she is a bit

RE: [Vo]:Ampenergo's email is disabled

Mary, Certain people are not 'suggesting', Mary, they are STATING it as FACT. That is what I object to; do you even know the difference??? You have made similar speculative statements before about me and I have thoroughly shown how the FACTS show differently, and yet you repeat your specu

RE: [Vo]:Opponents should please go away and form your own group

When it comes to Rossi and the E-Cat, of course they can’t Craig… and that’s a *fact* that they are choosing to ignore. Gee, sounds a bit pathological to me… Now, *IF* a plaintiff does come forward sometime in the future, then we may have real evidence of wrongdoing, depending on the circumstan

RE: [Vo]:Ampenergo's email is disabled

Thank you Susan for triggering a major point about the so-called skeptics, now obviously fitting the definition of 'trolls', that have been spewing their BS for that last several days. If you guys and gals are s concerned about helping prevent people who might invest in this scam, don't

RE: [Vo]:The 1MW container is not from old footage.

old footage. On 1/22/12, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > Mary, have you forgotten that at least one of the principles in > Ampenergo has worked with Rossi before, or was in business with him, > and if they gave Rossi $ to secure a licensing spot, so what? So Rossi has received money i

RE: [Vo]:there is a BNE - Rossi connection

Since you failed to rebut my assumption that Millin is guilty of running at least one or more scams, obviously lying to perpetrate those scams, then is that assumption correct? -Original Message- From: Shaun Taylor [mailto:shauntaylor...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:01 PM T

RE: [Vo]:The 1MW container is not from old footage.

Those are the facts, at this time. -Mark From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:08 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The 1MW container is not from old footage. On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: Shaun, Pi

RE: [Vo]:The 1MW container is not from old footage.

he 1MW container is not from old footage. On 23/01/2012 10:47 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > So here was Shaun's acknowledging the FACT that he doesn't know, or > have evidence that Rossi is even aware of the Australian licensee (Millin): Mark, since then I saw the slide sh

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