UPDATED (February 29): In an interview with New Technology, said Alexandros
Xanthoulis that the test was conducted on 24 February and that it is not
focused on security, as the product is ready for such tests. The focus instead
was to show that the released heat energy from a Low Energy
It seems that the straw that broke the camel's back was a poster eluding to
Defkalion/Praxen being a possible front organization for laundering money out
of Greece.
There were two or three posters that were not just acting like spoilt children,
but making accusations that would make any
What I found most amazing, was all of the Rossi info:
On February 20, 2012 Rossi performed a demonstration to show the actual level
of development. Among the participants was chemist Roland Pettersson, retired
Associate Professor from the University of Uppsala, who also attended a test of
e.g. behind gas engines and biogas engines
* Small CHP plants
* Decentralized solar facilities
Inlet pressure 2 up to 40 bar (a)
Inlet temperature dry saturated steam up to 400 °C
- Original Message -
From: Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com
This might
This might be possible with supercritical CO2, though not in sizes less
than about 100kW. Most definitely not steam
On 26 February 2012 21:43, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote:
As long as there is not at least a press release from Siemens about this,
i wouldn't consider this being more
I agree, hydrogen will diffuse through metal walls until the hydrogen
pressure (partial pressure) is the same on both sides.
On 24 February 2012 20:54, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:20:54 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
• The high pressure CO2 coolant
/snip/
* There is the initial report showing the system ran 4000 watts for
100 hours that showed a well-thought out overunity test. It was a 3rd
party test, paid for by the company. The report remains confidential,
but it was impressive enough to get Sterling Allan on a plane.
/snip/
We
Just a guess,
There is a general arcing characteristic of Fluorescent ballasts. The wide
frequency range emissions created by these arcs act much like lightning to an
AM radio signal. As the spectrum is wide enough, but varying amplitude, any
amplitude modulated signal would be likely
I've never delved into Casimir Force, but I have to say, it's really intriguing.
As I understand the basic evidence of Casimir Force: experiments seem to verify
that metal plates at extremely close distances in a vacuum preclude longer
wavelengths of the aether-equivalent, creating a higher
But in an effort to eliminate many arguments re: relativistic miscalculations
of satellite orbits, I thought they conducted additional experiments using
synched atomic clocks in lieu of GPS satellites.
Did the atomic clocks feed the same HSSL cards over the same fiber link?
Terry Blanton
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
NanoSpire, Inc. Successfully Harnesses Cavitation Zero Point Energy to
Produce Dramatic Levels of Fusion Transmutation In Water
press release:
Sometimes, motivated 14-year-olds build treehouses; others, fusion reactors:
Taylor cranks it up to 40,000 volts. “Whoa, look at Snoopy now!” Phaneuf says,
grinning. Taylor nudges the power up to 50,000 volts, bringing the temperature
of the plasma inside the core to an incomprehensible 580
I knew a pathological liar when I was younger, she was one of the smartest
people I have ever met, but would lie to no benefit other than to make
herself look better or garner sympathy from the bad things she said had
happened to her. I didn't realise it at first, thinking she had had a lot
of
EARTHLINGS:
I'VE BEEN GETTING ALL KINDS OF BEEPING, STATIC ASKING IF I REALLY EXIST! THIS
IS FOOLERY. ASK ANY REAL SCIENTIST IN THE GALAXY (NOT THOSE
SNAKE-HEADED-ASTRONOMERS OF EARTH). THERE IS NO QUESTION BUT WE EXIST. I NO
LONGER REPLY TO SILLY BEEPS.
REGARDS,
ZAPHOD.
Date: Mon, 20 Feb
I believe that it was Jed that first made the comparison:
In the past ice (simple, frozen H2O) was delivered to businesses and homes.
Centralized production, then distribution made sense due to the technological
limitations of the time. Now that nearly every home in the developed world has
The key issue is that household electricity demand averages about
0.3-1.5kW, but can spike up to 10kW with aircon, ovens, hairdryers, clothes
dryers, toasters, kettles, lawnmowers, powertools etc. It is very hard to
make a system that can cover such a range efficiently or cheaply.
Currently even
Absorption heat pumps are mainly used for industrial hot water using warm
water or other waste heat sources. For domestic use they are not currently
common due to higher cost than electrically driven heat pumps and have low
COP of typically 1-2 vs 4-8 for electrical heat pumps, (though when
Photosynthesis is actually a fairly inefficient process. 20GWh of sunlight
on a hectare of land over a year might yield 30MWh of Wheat (8,000kg).
But if we have cheap power we can make a reasonable proportion of animal
feeds from CO2 and Water using chemical processing (simple
glycerol,
When you say the human population pressure would be reduced, what do you
mean?
Do you mean there would be fewer hungry people?
Yes, and if we could make animal food through chemical processing from CO2
and H2O then we wouldn't require as much land for agriculture and so we
could have more
I received your original post entitled: Dick Smith $1M sentiments
The mail-archive site does on occasion miss emails, out fail to correctly
catalogue them. The best thing to do are:
A) Ensure that any time you create a new thread, you start a new email from
scratch. If you reply and change the
/snip/
If you had a smart person like me as leader of the country back in 1989, we'd
already have LENR as our main energy source if it is real...
Well, both private businesses and the government have wasted trillions on a
lot of stupider things...
/endsnips/
Thanks for the laugh. Now, please
The question was eventually asked, and skirted on Rossi's
journal-of-nuclear-physics.com:
Q:
Bill Conley
February 16th, 2012 at 10:27 AM Mr. Rossi,
Several months ago you said that although your first 1MW plant client wished to
remain confidential, a second client was willing to be
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XjyLGEdsMJM/Tz9AEkZYmjI/ABA/yUce73ufydQ/s400/ClownSnakeVulture.jpg
_
After scouring the net, I believe that it may have been during the first
Defkalion press conference, that Rossi grew wary of puppet-snakes, clowns,
and vultures.
If anyone is sitting on their hands, and is looking for a challenge, it may be
time to begin construction on a Wikipedia entry for Defkalion Green
Technologies. Such an entry needs to be entirely confined to reliable sources
(e.g., Republic of Greece, Government Gazette, 4 April 2011; Greek
It was mentioned here before, but this is not the first $1,000,000 reward
offered by Smith:
So today I am announcing Dick Smith’s Wilberforce Award – $1 million to go to
a young person under 30 who can impress me by becoming famous through his or
her ability to show leadership in
2012/2/16 Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl:
Nowhere does Rossi say the invoice is fabricated. He just says it is
'unvalid', which apart from not entirely correct or usual English, is a bit
vague, and maybe intentionally so. (he might be conveniently hiding behind
his language barrier, here,
I know this has been discussed before, but I thought there might be some
interest in rough estimates of energy costs of Ni enrichment, just in case
it turns out to be critical for improving power density or decreasing
radioactivity of products.
With Ni it appears you are most interested in Ni62
From Jarold:
/snip/
and what does that say about Defkalion who is only in the LENR business
because of Rossi. If no valid tests are performed by either group by March 31,
this whole thing is most likely a fraud.
/snip/
Defkalion GT was not invited and did not participate officially in any
I believe the hydrogen loss they are referring to is centered about hydrogen
containment, not hydrogen consumption.
As for Rossi's 60°C reaction point, that was the temperature of his surrounding
water during the EK testing. At around 60°C water temp, the slope of
temperature gradient changed;
The simplicity is elegant. Repeat your most-cited demonstration, and you'll
get $1 million USD, no strings attached.
You can buy use the money for whatever you want - You can use it for further
research - perhaps to re-purchase your house or even donate some of the money
to charity.
I'm
According to Sterling Allen:
A week ago today, I found an email in my inbox that had been sent to me on
November 28 that I had overlooked. It was from a person representing a company
in South Africa stating that they had a Fuel Free Generator, and that they had
seven working prototypes with
The media are going to love this, and they will be very damning if Rossi
doesn't accept.
If he is prepared to put such money on the line it would be nice if Smith
opened this up to all-comers, like an X-Prize, eg for a consistently
replicable cold fusion reaction with a gain of 5-10 and power
I don't know why he wants to go back to March 29, and not, for example, the
Oct 5 (was it?) Heat Exchanger version, and to use steam rather than
water. Also, Rossi only guarantees COP=6, not 8. KE would be fine to
supervise ... but I think I'd go with recommendations from Jed (ISTR) to
hire an
As It stands right now, no money is actually tied to these preorders. I'm
sure that in A.R's world, they serve to legitimize his claims. For a potential
investor, it would be requiring to hear that he has already received 100,000
firm commitments (and actually sold fourteen 1MW plants!).
As one
This is a lot of aluminum consumption. These are back-of-the-napkin-style
calculations, so I apologize if I've missed something, but (unless I've made a
large mistake) it appears that:
2[Al ]+ 6[H2O] + CC = CC + 2[Al(OH)3] + 3H2
So, two atoms of aluminum are consumed for every three atoms
While I don't think Stirling are good for larger sizes I do think that they
might work well for 0.2-3kW. Stirling engines were in large volume
production 100 years ago for small output applications (though they were
big and heavy), and the cost is less of a negative factor for small sizes
if they
While waiting for useful, conclusive information, impatience can lead to data
prospecting.
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=11
It seems that forums 11 thru 16 require special permissions.
Only f=11 displays a forum name: Associates Corner (Registered users of
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Have you see The Stuff?
Did you mean The Thing ?
Rob
@eskimo.com
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
Thoughts?
There are 3,154 posts in QA and Older Discussions:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/index.php
This was when the forum was open then closed due to too much riffraff
I am something of an expert in heat engines, I've worked in IC engine
development, Brayton development, have built (for fun) Rankine cycle
engines, and even an engine that ran on the expansion and contraction of
solid metal.
I've also been involved in the development of hydrogen working fluid
There is simply no way that LENR will be useful for getting stuff to orbit
- unless it is used as a method for making cheaper chemical rocket fuels,
and even then rocket fuel costs are only a few % of a launch.
- LENR power density is far too low (a 3500kg SSME delivers 9GW of power,
ie 2.5MW/kg)
are smaller as operate at much higher speeds) and costs
probably $3-5k when mass produced.
Recuperated Brayton (like capstone C30) that weighs 100kg and costs about
$5-10k when mass produced.
On 6 February 2012 18:50, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* Robert Lynn
Yep aircraft will be the big win.
Repower Concorde with LENR heated engines and fly anywhere in the world
without stopping, though you will probably not be allowed to fly supersonic
over land. No vapour trails and no NOx production so other than noise it
is a perfect solution. Mach 3 is
, weight and
size factors.
On 6 February 2012 22:39, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* Robert Lynn
**Ø **
**Ø **If you have a few hundred million $ to put into Stirling
development then by all means have a go and see what you can do, but almost
no-one who has
evacuation is a problem, maybe on could design the car
to be a good radiator
does it seems reasonable ?
2012/2/6 Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com
So take an (optimistic) $10k 30kW 200kg Stirling + generator + very large
radiators (need much cooler temps than IC engines
Sonoluminescence is undisputed. There is certainly bubble creation and light
release.
Notice that they lightly dance around the fusion claim in this article. All
fusion statements are forward-looking. I was reading in to their answers that
they had observed fusion, until Question #6.
Q6: Do
So, they made a control run, with a purely resistive load, but then used a
different input power on the CF run?
It seems that the red output delta T/input power is then scaled up for the
lower CF input power. Why was the same input power as the control run not used
in the CF run? This doesn't
There are real problems with his patent. Not only is there a host of un-cited
prior art, patent and public domain, but his existing patent application has
limited application to even his current product line.
IANAL, but his patent application centers on the physical construction of his
early
SWAPAR, like SAPWAR, is a misspelling of the acronym SPAWAR. Navy Space and
Naval Warfare Systems Command.
They, like NASA, had been researching cold fusion/LENR. Under a small glare of
media attention, their program was possibly cancelled. There is a wealth of
information available by
An article at greenstyle.it seems to indicate that JET Energy's demonstration
was not hydrogen-nickel, but deuterium+tritium=helium.
Do we have any such confirmation?
R.L.
__
This is the article in question:
original -
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=nprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=www.greenstyle.it%2Ffusione-fredda-successo-per-un-test-effettuato-al-mit-7376.html
From: robert.leguil...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Cold Fusion.. openly demonstrated at MIT
.
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 00:00:39 -0500
From: r...@hush.com
To: robert.leguil...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Cold Fusion.. \openly\ demonstrated at MIT
Hi Robert, I just got an update:
the NANOR used in the present ongoing MIT Demonstration is a
ZrO2-PdD CF
2000-6000psi hydrogen is pretty dangerous, be very careful about your
design and setup, make sure all your valves seals and fittings are able to
withstand those pressures, keep those valves, seals and fittings away from
high temperatures, and try to keep reactor vessel volume small.
I believe
I my previous job as a IC engine development engineer we used platinum RTDs
(also called PRTs) for most water and air temperatures (200°C), but
thermocouples for all exhaust temperatures (500°C) where errors of 1-2°C
don't really matter.
While platinum RTDs are best, they are several times the
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=autotl=enu=www.greenstyle.it%2FFe-cat-greco-defkalion-mostra-in-video-lhyperion-in-funzione-7299.html
I kind of like it - shows that they're focussed on engineering and making
things work rather than slick marketing (makes their claims more believable
to me). But I don't like the way the thin metal tube hydrogen lines are
strung out across the lab - an accident waiting to happen.
On 30 January
Ian Bryce of the Australian Skeptics (and fact-finder for Dick Smith) recently
linked and posted an A.S. press release on Defkalion's forum:
http://defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=956
I'm thoroughly unimpressed with the comments from the Australian Skeptics:
Smith
It extremely unlikely that Ni enrichment is being employed, regardless of
Rossi's claims. Even without knowledge of the mechanism for LENR how would
a hydrogen atom ever know if it was interacting with Ni 62 or Ni 64? The
coulomb barrier is identical for both.
But assuming that only one Ni
From Defkalion's forum, they area claiming control over power peaks/troughs:
http://Defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=955p=5734#p5734
Defkalion GT
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:56 pm Posts: 437
@Engineer We had to ask (it was around midnight here ) our RD people who
performed that
Terry is dead-on. The autonomous Unmanned Combat Air Vehicles (UCAVs) can take
off by themselves, fly a grid pattern looking for targets, ask, permission to
engage when they find targets, then return home and land themselves.
It's been seven years since Boeing demonstrated autonomous vehicles
Well, I'm looking forward to seeing the videos in question.
On a side note, following link-to-link (as the internet often pulls
rail-switches on my trains of thought), I ran across this gem:
Are you attempting to mislead like the transgendered George ‘Mary Yugo’ Hody
of Thermonetics
Here's a quote from Mary regarding Storms thermocouples:
If you're going to air cool, you may wish to supplement your temperature
measurements for calorimetry with heat flux measurements. Heat flux
transducers, already calibrated, are commercially available (Google is your
friend). Some are
Agreed.
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:48:47 -0400
From: andre_vor...@blums.nl
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A huge Rossi (bad) thing to be revealed soon. (Daniele
Passerini)
I vote for stopping the discussion about MY's real identity right here.
This is not what I read this
The statement at UNIBO indicates they will publish independent results:
However, the Department of Physics has made available its experience and its
equipment to carry out independent measurements on the production of heat by
equipment called E-cat in order to provide an answer to the entire
I think are a many potential downsides to using bulk material substrates
(foams, foils, wires) with nickel coatings.
- you might get large and non-homogenous transient temperature changes
throughout the reactor and this could lead to deformation and even breakup
of large continuous scaffolds.
- it
acetylene and nickel instead of
nickel,carbon,h2 a idea that is floating around..
Marten
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Rubrik: [Vo]:Nickel honeycomb ?
Datum: ons, jan 25, 2012 22:00
I think are a many
But if depositing on the walls how would you get the massive surface area
required? 4µm powder has about 0.4m²/gram of surface area, and using
approximate (Rossi) figures of 100kW/kg then a 10kW unit needs about 100g
or 40m² of surface area. It also creates more problems with
recycling/replacing
Earlier in the thread, hydrogen was mentioned as a control mechanism, or a
possible factor to be purged at the onset of quiescence:
I'm having trouble imagining that the existing reactor core has a pile of
nickel, a hydrogen gas fitting, and a hydrogen release for anything short of
emergency
of the reactor kernal without blowing
micro/nanopowder out of the reactor into the hydrogen system?
I agree that a type of fluidized bed of micro/nano powder might work well
if uniformly distributed
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Robert Lynn
robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Hydrogen
What are the implications? Its the university going to sever all Rossi support?
Will they caution Giuseppe Levi from further involvement? Bianchini? If the
UNIBO contract is null and void, who are the two universities that Rossi is
referring to?
Ponderous. Really ponderous...
Date: Tue, 24
Rossi would have all the money he could ever want from any one of several
thousand large multinationals or governments by next week if he did a
single proper black box test similar to Jan-Jun 2011 demos (no surrounding
water box) but with proper independently installed and recorded calorimetry
by
Initially may be able to speed the rate of experimentation using an array
of samples all subjected to the same heating and pressurisation cycles.
Set out multiple test powders in an array within a reaction chamber and
use an IR (or maybe visible spectrum at more useful elevated temps) camera
to
I find it a little disappointing, that Defkalion are not going to use flow
calorimetry for their demos. Their choice of course. It is a bit hard to
understand their test procedure, they specify a Bare hyperion reactor but
what that means is unclear, it also sounds like they are not using a
No such thing as a magnetically transparent steel (or any conductor for
that matter) RF will not pass through a conductive material. And for the
same reason high frequency magnetic fields will not penetrate any metal by
more than a fraction of a mm. For a bit of a guide as to what sort of
A low frequency magnetic field (basically DC turned on and off) could help
agitate the powder and dissipate hot spots, but at temperatures above 360°C
curie temp of Nickel (that appears to be where the reactors operate
according to DGT) static magnetic fields will have no effect on pure nickel.
Convection and radiation will tend to equalise temperature inside the
reactor cavity pretty quickly regardless of where the heat source is within
the cavity. Page 4,5 of Dekaflion's Hyperion product details pdf from
november shows a cross-section with a horizontal cylindrical geometry and
lists
Do you think others have not thought of this before? The RFG could not have
imparted a power anywhere close to 10Kw. And if the SBB was supplying DC
current at all, that power would still have been registered on the AC supply
line. 10Kw of power is not something you can hide easily.
What
Not to beleaguer the point, but could you please show us this goo evidence?
Simply upload edits to the images that call attention to the relevant goop...a
simple red circle would do...
Many of us here on Vortex analyzed, even over-analyzed, those photos. I'm not
sure what
Horace Hefner did some excellent analysis on this subject, presuming that there
is a check valve and/or flow restrictor at the output.
From the stability of the E-Cat temp, you can tell that it is at boiling
temperature, with a mix of water and vapor. Simple steam charts will show you
that the
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
Even if he doesn't have a secret catalyst that enhances his reaction, he may
inadvertently become the catalyst that brings LENR into the mainstream...
I disagree with that reasoning. If Rossi is a fraud
/snip/
It is either minor confusion or a minor lie. Minor compared to the usual level
of chaos that Rossi sows when he opens his mouth. This incident sent AussiGuy
into a tizzy. I told him I do not understand why, because anyone who has dealt
with Rossi knows he does this kind of thing
I am pretty sure Rossi's stability and control problem stems from relying
on heat transfer through a large temperature differential (low Watts per
degree) to cool a reaction that has a positive temperature coefficient (ie
gets more powerful with increasing temperature).
The simple fix is to use
During the September test (with the large steam release in question) the
temperature exceeded 133C... You can see it in the video.
During the October 6th test, the temperature reaches 123.8C at the onset of
self-sustaining mode, and it drops to 103C by the end of the test.
Rossi is a dodgy character, but that does not mean that it isn't working.
There are a lot of others out there with Impeccable professional
scientific reputations who are getting high-level outputs from similar Ni-H
systems.
Eg Brillioun Energy reported 2x gain in February last year at relatively
http://www.examiner.com/paranormal-in-st-louis/andrea-rossi-sinner-or-saint
Is Andrea Rossi the world's greatest inventor since Nikola Telsa and the
savior of mankind, or is he one of the worst scoundrels of the year? It's very
difficult to say at this time, but the question really is that
The only reference that I could find on ecat.com to dispensation of university
testing was more than two months ago, before Rossi seemed to have disavowed it:
Q: Will you do more public tests of the E-cat?
Asked by Ecat.com 2 months ago
A:
1- we made all the tests we had to make
2- no more
Those articles have been mentioned here in the past, but thanks for adding the
podcast to the mix.
Though there were absolutely no technical revelations, what I did take away
from the interview is the breath of investors being lured in.
In the past, Rossi claimed that the customer's money
After a bit of digging around the web, looking for commonality in the posts of
the two personas, it certainly seems likely that AG is Greg Watson. I would
concede that everything I've found is circumstantial, and that a string titled,
Goodbye Greg was probably premature.
Further, if they are
@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
After a bit of digging around the web, looking for commonality in the posts of
the two personas, it certainly seems likely that AG is Greg Watson. I would
concede
___
When Defkalion was recently asked about testing (again), they replied:
As already stated in this forum, there are several independent tests scheduled
for the next period. All of them will be video-recorded/uploaded in YouTube or
National Instruments did not initiate a press release. Check the original
source at:
http://pesn.com/2011/11/10/9601953_National_Instruments_signs_to_do_E-Cat_controls/
Enquiries to National Instruments from the likes of Sterling Allen prompted
their press release (upon Rossi's
The article is not viewable in its entirety from your link, but if Vortexians
would like access to the whole article, it can be accessed via a quick Google
News search.
I think that we're all still in wait-and-see mode regarding Rossi and
Defkalion.
The only thing that I have taken away
It wouldn't be the first time that Krivit would have released something that he
shouldn't have.
All of the recent info that comes to mind was all derived from CMNS
communications.
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:19:41 +0100
From: shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:
I agree, the positioning and detail of the container seems identical to a
degree that is unlikely if it were not the same container. Is it
absolutely sure that these videos were taken months apart?
On 18 January 2012 23:18, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote:
I did some further analysis of
You guys must have missed the post by Patrick Ellul:
1. Italo R. January 18th, 2012 at 2:02 PM Dear Ing. Rossi, I have watched this
interview with you in Bologna realized on the 12th of January 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odkfAjqA4pc In it appears a 1 MW container. May
I ask you if
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
LENR just made petroleum obsolete. Then, currencies will be Nickel-based?
Or what?
bitcoin :)
It makes sense actually since bitcoin relies on wasting lots of now
unlimited energy.
Rob
I've limited my skeptical Rossi criticisms awaiting a new test or any sort of
verifiable information.
I commend maryyugo for pulling back (a bit) on her repeated arm waving of
proof and independent testing, when no new information has been revealed.
But, I agree with her that some of the
His name was Thales of Miletus. g
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:25:53 -0500
From: sa...@pobox.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on the It was sent back statement
On 12-01-16 05:11 PM, Zell, Chris wrote:
Edison was a greedy liar and cheat who was cruel to
The story of the customer having returned the 1 MW unit originated from a post
here on Vortex claiming inside knowledge. Rossi has subsequently denied it was
returned by the customer. Rossi does say that he is working with National
Instruments and the customer in order to optimize it.
Date:
At a minimum a replaceable cartridge needs to have an additional supply of
hydrogen - and that means a sealable connection (not something you would
necessarily trust a muppet consumer with - a lot of people don't even know
how to tighten a nut. Also if we are to believe recent speculation about
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