[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:

 I don't know if you have to put your brown shirts on when you do this but the 
 White House is asking everyone to report any *fishy* things you've heard, to 
 them, about health insurance reform. This is hysterical, the people that 
 freaked out at Bush asking people to report suspected terrorst, want you to 
 report suspected *misinformation* circulating over the internet. Hugo Chavez 
 was right, Obama is moving faster than either he or Castro ever did!


I think he just people to expose the lies, of the insurance industry, that is 
backing the hysteria...
These are the same people that stormed the recount in Florida, during the 2000 
election, so that the Supremes could step in, and elect the President from the 
bench...
Everything that comes from the Republican side, is 99% lies...
There might be a glimmer of truth somewhere, if you really look hard, but I 
doubt it...

r.g.



[FairfieldLife] 'Soul Transitions- August 2009'

2009-08-06 Thread Robert

Soul Transitions Vibe Report for August 2009
Nancy Leilah Ward


The Poetry of My Soul

My prayer is to express the poetry of my soul.
To live a deeper life.
More than taking care of business, the surface of things
but to dive deep into the mystery
to awaken visions within.
To travel on the beam of light
that shines through the center of my being.
We each have something drawing us forward
dancing on points of light as our feet come down.
If it made a sound, it would be like bells
or ice flowing on top of a river.
My soul calls out for more, more, more.
I know there is more than this.

My prayer is to live my life like a prayer.
Every breath sacred.
Tapping into the infinite depth within.
Deeper than the stars.
Deep as the Universe.
The deeper I travel within,
the further out I go.
Moving through exploding fractals
of light
colored by emotion
in motion.

My life is a prayer.
My actions consciously honor the mystery;
that which is beyond words
As I chop wood, carry water.

This to all…
May our breath be blessed with love.
All this and more.
Dancing on diamond lights
our footsteps light our path,
disappear behind us.
Onward.

This is how I’ve been feeling lately. What’s going on? A potent
download of cosmic energy on July 21-22, as well as three eclipses
have been affecting us all. Opening ourselves to new energy brings up
big change at the cellular, at the atomic, at the sub-atomic levels.
Many of us have been feeling very strange. For the last week, I have
been having moments of fever and achiness and sometimes digestive
problems on and off. I’ll wake up with a fever and then an hour or so
later I’ll feel absolutely fine, with my usual energy. One day will go
by and I’ll be fine, then the fever will show up again for an hour or
so, or I’ll have to lie down and rest because of feeling achy. Of
course my mind goes to thoughts of Lyme’s disease, West Nile virus or
swine flu, but I keep hearing “ascension symptom” from the wise voice
within. Some of the symptoms I’ve been hearing about from others are
fever, nausea, aching backs, aching arms and joints, feeling
disoriented and lightheaded, feelings of inertia, panic, deep grief
and sleeplessness.

Many people are feeling like they no longer know what to do with their
lives – they know that things are changing and they don’t know exactly
what to do but that they want to do something different. Others, after
feeling this way for the past year, have found their paths and are
moving forward with conviction and commitment. This includes people
who a few months ago felt completely lost and unsure of what they
wanted to do. Everyone is at their own place in Divine timing of the
evolutionary process.

We are being triggered by energy surges and sometimes this feels like
we’re being pulled out of our bodies.

Many of One
Indeed you are in for a ride, dear ones. As you ride the waves of
change, trust your instincts. Trust your guidance, trust your “gut.”
Trust in your ability to discern what is your highest path and
purpose. And when you don’t know, do nothing. Many are diving deep
into their beings to experience the heart of their soul. We see
relationships changing as people can no longer hide from the truth in
themselves. This can create much confusion and upset, but know that
the path within is paved with love.

Dear ones you are being called to a deeper experience of yourself as
you integrate the energies and open to receive your soul. You will
find you cannot do what doesn’t resonate with your heart. This is
causing much upset and change among many people. We wish for you to
know with the deepest love that everything is going to be OK. Listen
to your hearts. Spend time in nature. Retreat to gain clarity. Allow
the emotions to flow through you, hide nothing from yourselves. For it
is with the deepest expression of your truth that you will find
freedom and clarity. Much is changing and shifting. Bring in the
energies of love. Be your deepest authenticity - you are being called
to greater levels of awareness. Many are feeling the need for a deeper
connection with Source.

You are Source
The very Universe exists within you and without you. You are truly one
with everything. To maintain your connection in the 3rd dimension you
experience feelings of separation and defined boundaries. Somewhere
deep within is a seed of knowing that you are greater than your
perceptions and that you are vast. If you sit within this possibility
and allow yourselves to expand, you will touch the stars. The true and
total knowledge and experience of this would be too much for you to
handle so it is given to you in small doses… glimpses of the vastness
of your being. We feel you wishing to remember, wishing for a deeper
experience and these experiences can be found through creative
processes, through interactions with one another and through the
stillness within.

Those of you who are feeling the call to greater awareness have been
the forerunners and the ones holding the energy for others. 

[FairfieldLife] Ayahuasca Experience

2009-08-06 Thread John
To All:

Is this the Soma found in the Amazon forest?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM8_fpDxUiY



[FairfieldLife] ‘All Media~All Negative~All the Time!’

2009-08-06 Thread Robert

Turn it down, and better yet,
Turn it off...

All mass media has become negative! All the Time! Led by Fox and Drudge 
(((former CIA ))(((Rogues') perhaps, or better yet, per-hapless? ...

Behind the curtain is industrial strength drug companies and insurance 
companies and doctors for profit...

They are pulling out all stops to incite violence and death...
Why, one might be inclined to ask?
Why would humans to this to their countrymen?
Good Question...

Let’s think and feel about this for a minute...don't mind the time...
(one minute of silence)

Get this:
There are two forces of nature behind the curtain: Mr. Lust and Ms. Greed...
Underlining them both: Control over Life and Death...in other words: Fear...
The way to overcome them, is to understand, that there is,
Enough to go around, if we work together...and do not polarize in order to keep 
separate...
There is no need to fear unity of purpose, as this is God’s way for us to be 
happy...
For what if a man/woman gains the world,
But loses their souls?~

r.g.




  


[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread Robert
 (snip)
  Plus I think the whole thing is just a national 
 IQ test.   
 (snip)
What a scary thought, of taking a national IQ test...
The results might cause one to pause?
And take time out, to water the root?

r.g.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread Robert
--(snip)
This is a total lie...
Nobody wants to report anyone on the FFL to the WH...
Don't ya think they have better uses of their time?
With all the noise in the corporate owned media, they are just attempting to 
shine some light on the darkness of that realm...
That's all...
Give the President a break, will you?

r.g.



[FairfieldLife] 'Lust: The Ultimate Distraction!'

2009-08-06 Thread Robert



  

[FairfieldLife] 'War-What is it good for?'

2009-08-06 Thread Robert
It's good to make money, for people like Hitler, and the Bush Crime family, 
Inc...
These fear/war mongers, create, in their aftermath...poverty, delusion and 
destruction for the people...
Whereas, governing without fear/war mongering, but instead, to work together 
for the common good...produces  prosperity, not just materially, but 
spiritually...
War, and killing, ends up killing not only material things, but the very soul, 
itself...

Robert Gimbel  Copyright  2009



  


[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote:
 
  I don't know if you have to put your brown shirts on when you do this but 
  the White House is asking everyone to report any *fishy* things you've 
  heard, to them, about health insurance reform. This is hysterical, the 
  people that freaked out at Bush asking people to report suspected terrorst, 
  want you to report suspected *misinformation* circulating over the 
  internet. Hugo Chavez was right, Obama is moving faster than either he or 
  Castro ever did!
 
 
 I think he just people to expose the lies, of the insurance industry, that is 
 backing the hysteria...
 These are the same people that stormed the recount in Florida, during the 
 2000 election, so that the Supremes could step in, and elect the President 
 from the bench...
 Everything that comes from the Republican side, is 99% lies...
 There might be a glimmer of truth somewhere, if you really look hard, but I 
 doubt it...
 
 r.g.


Robert, Granted there is plenty of wrong information and hysteria about health 
care on the internet, no doubt hyped by the insurance industry and the 
Republican party. Their biggest fear is a health care bill with a public 
option. Here's the problem, a few key Democrats don't want the public option 
either. Neither of them want a public option. The difference is that the 
Republicans can outright oppose it and the Democrats have to PRETEND they favor 
it. The insurance industry lines the pockets of Republicans AND Democrats. It's 
one big Kabuki dance.

Recently, Obama told leftwing activists like Firedoglake and Media Matters to 
back off pushing for the public option. WTF? 
http://www.progressive.org/wx080509.html  Max Baucus, Democrat, head of the 
Senate Finance Committee, took single-payer off the table at the beginning of 
discussions. Baucus takes more money from insurance lobbyists than anyone in 
the Senate. http://www.progressive.org/wx080509.html

The sticking point between John Q. Public and the DEMOCRATS is the public 
option. The majority of the people want a public option. 

The poll — which was  just released by the Employee Benefit Research 
Institute, a D.C. policy think tank — finds that a majority (53%) strongly back 
the availability of a public plan, while another 30% somewhat support it. 
That's a total of 83% in favor of a public plan — a staggeringly large 
majority. 

http://tinyurl.com/knnsgs

Have you noticed the number of distractions on T.V. that allows very minimal 
discussion or promotion of the idea that the MAJORITY of the public wants a 
public option? No. Media attention has been on the paranoia of the right, the 
birthers, Palin, Michael Jackson and a beer with the president instead of 
health care. ANYTHING except focus on the fact that Obama and the Democrats 
ALREADY HAVE the support they need to get a public option. Obama and the 
Democrats DON'T NEED TO COMPROMISE.

Network TV represents corporate media who has no interest in the will of the 
people, it doesn't increase the bottom line. The public option threatens the 
bottom line. Corporatism is a greedy behemoth that snarls at the public option 
and the corporate media enables it. Media protection of corporate interests was 
true during GW Bush and it is true now. NOTHING has changed. The more conflict 
we see on TV between the left and the right about health care the more likely 
it is that we will not see of a public option. Both sides of the aisle and 
their insurance industry enablers want to bury it. Public Option RIP.

I'm no fan of Sen. Cornyn but he has a valid reason to ask the White House:

How do you intend to use the names, email addresses, IP addresses, and 
identities of citizens who are reported to have engaged in fishy speech?

How do you intend to notify citizens who have been reported for fishy 
speech?

http://briefingroom.thehill.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/cornynletter.pdf

There isn't any reason for Obama to have private email addresses to counter 
disinformation. Homeland Security and the FBI can easily find out whats 
happening on the internet and Axelrod knows exactly how to counter as well as 
spread disinformation. Citizen ratting on each only creates a climate of 
paranoia, inflames the opposition, suppresses free speech and ensures the 
necessity of a compromise on health care which will nix the public option.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread Vaj


On Aug 5, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


Mike Dixon wrote:
 I don't know if you have to put your brown shirts on when you do  
this but the White House is asking everyone to report any *fishy*  
things you've heard, to them, about health insurance reform. This is  
hysterical, the people that freaked out at Bush asking people to  
report suspected terrorst, want you to report suspected  
*misinformation* circulating over the internet. Hugo Chavez was  
right, Obama is moving faster than either he or Castro ever did!
Ah, but you'll feel much better after your vacation at our re- 
education

center. ;-)

PS: don't believe everything Alex Jones says.



Or radical right-wing Oxy addicts spewing artificial venom over the  
airwaves.

[FairfieldLife] Yes We Cannabis

2009-08-06 Thread raunchydog
Furor Over an Obama Puff PieceIt was only a matter of time before
someone combined a certain memorable image of a young future president
with a jokey twist on his campaign slogan ... to come up with a message
that Barack Obama definitely did not approve.
The folks at the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws
got there first. For their annual conference poster, they took an old
photo of cool-dude college freshman Obama puffing away -- on a regular
cigarette, mind you -- and tweaked it just ever so slightly to fit their
message: Yes We Cannabis.

Read more:


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliable-source/2009/08/rs-norml5.html
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliable-source/2009/08/rs-norml5.html\





  [http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliable-source/poster5_228.jpg] 
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliable-source/2009/08/rs-norml5.html\




[FairfieldLife] Obama Wants to Kill Your Grandmother

2009-08-06 Thread Vaj
Five Right-wing lies meant to scare the ignorant:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/08/06/healthcare/?source=newsletter


[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 On Aug 5, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
  
  Mike Dixon wrote:
   I don't know if you have to put your brown shirts on 
   when you do this but the White House is asking everyone 
   to report any *fishy* things you've heard, to them, about 
   health insurance reform. This is hysterical, the people 
   that freaked out at Bush asking people to report suspected 
   terrorst, want you to report suspected *misinformation* 
   circulating over the internet. Hugo Chavez was right, 
   Obama is moving faster than either he or Castro ever did!
   Ah, but you'll feel much better after your vacation at 
   our re-education center. ;-)
 
  PS: don't believe everything Alex Jones says.
 
 Or radical right-wing Oxy addicts spewing artificial 
 venom over the airwaves.

The thing is, though, that these guys on the radio
GET PAID to spew this fear vomit. What's fascinating 
to me is to watch the meltdown here on Fairfield Life, 
home of 30-year meditators who consider themselves 
better and smarter and more highly evolved than almost 
everyone in the world, and yet have been manipulated 
into believing and spreading the *same* fear-vomit.

It's fairly predictable that whenever progressives
are about to win one that the Republicunts like Dixon,
Willytex, and Shemp freak out. They're *easy* to prog-
ram; all you have to do is push their fear button and 
they do as they've been told to do and repeat what
they've been told to repeat. The only thing strange
in this scenario is is that these long-term TMers 
still *have* so much fear in them that they can be 
manipulated this easily.

But the fascinating one lately is Raunchydog, a sup-
posed liberal who has been manipulated into believing 
and repeating *exactly the same propaganda* by appeal-
ing not to her sense of fear but to her attachment to 
being a victim and to her hatred of Obama -- a hatred 
she developed for no reason than that he proved that 
the woman Raunchy had a crush on wasn't qualified to 
be president. Being manipulated by those who prey on
your fear is almost normal these days in America, but
being manipulated by those who prey on your insane
desire for *revenge*? That would be scary if the 
person being manipulated were ignorant trailer trash.
But when the person being manipulated is a 30-year
TMer *acting* like ignorant trailer trash? *Really*
scary.






Re: [FairfieldLife] Ayahuasca Experience

2009-08-06 Thread Peter

No.

--- On Thu, 8/6/09, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: John jr_...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ayahuasca Experience
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 4:29 AM
 To All:
 
 Is this the Soma found in the Amazon forest?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM8_fpDxUiY
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
 
 But the fascinating one lately is Raunchydog, a sup-
 posed liberal who has been manipulated into believing 
 and repeating *exactly the same propaganda* by appeal-
 ing not to her sense of fear but to her attachment to 
 being a victim and to her hatred of Obama -- a hatred 
 she developed for no reason than that he proved that 
 the woman Raunchy had a crush on wasn't qualified to 
 be president. Being manipulated by those who prey on
 your fear is almost normal these days in America, but
 being manipulated by those who prey on your insane
 desire for *revenge*? That would be scary if the 
 person being manipulated were ignorant trailer trash.
 But when the person being manipulated is a 30-year
 TMer *acting* like ignorant trailer trash? *Really*
 scary.


Notice that Barry has no proof of manipulation, quotes me or offers specifics 
about the nature of exactly the same propaganda I allegedly repeat, BECAUSE 
IT DOES NOT EXIST. His only purpose is to disparage me because he is still 
smarting from the drubbing he got for being a victim of his vicious button 
pushing guru, Lenz. Barry compulsively emulates Lenz asshole behavior everyday 
and he's proud of it. Geez, talk about a line etched on stone.







[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
  But the fascinating one lately is Raunchydog, a sup-
  posed liberal who has been manipulated into believing 
  and repeating *exactly the same propaganda* by appeal-
  ing not to her sense of fear but to her attachment to 
  being a victim and to her hatred of Obama -- a hatred 
  she developed for no reason than that he proved that 
  the woman Raunchy had a crush on wasn't qualified to 
  be president. Being manipulated by those who prey on
  your fear is almost normal these days in America, but
  being manipulated by those who prey on your insane
  desire for *revenge*? That would be scary if the 
  person being manipulated were ignorant trailer trash.
  But when the person being manipulated is a 30-year
  TMer *acting* like ignorant trailer trash? *Really*
  scary.
 
 Notice that Barry has no proof of manipulation, quotes me 
 or offers specifics about the nature of exactly the same 
 propaganda I allegedly repeat, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST. 

Au contraire. You are promoting *exactly* the 
same Obama is trying to recruit people into
spying for him and supplying him with the email
addresses meme that the right wing is spouting.

What is fascinating is that you don't seem to
realize that it's the same meme, and that it 
came from the same place, the same Republicunt
thinktank that thought it up and then sent it
out to the rightwing nutbag bloggers and to 
the leftwing nutbag Hillarybot bloggers, know-
ing that they'd all jump on it like white on
rice and then broadcast it to their audience.

What is hilarious is that you still believe
yourself a liberal **AS** you parrot the Repub-
licunt memes.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt Health Care Town Halls

2009-08-06 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:

 And Maddow is ...objective?


The difference is that Maddow backs up her reports with verifiable facts. The 
wingnuts simply make stuff up - like FEMA concentration camps for Obama's 
political enemies and mandatory service for young people where they'll be 
subject to 're-education' indoctrination to turn them agqainst their parents, 
Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, etc., etc.

There's a whole boat-load of easily lead gullible idiots who believe crap like 
that that. Are you one of them, Dixon?



 
 --- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:
 
 
 From: do.rflex do.rf...@...
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
 Health Care Town Halls
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:11 AM
 
 
   
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
 
  All you have to do is Google* Inside Obama's Acorn* by Stanly Kurtz. But 
  there are many others.
 
 
 The correct spelling of his name is Stanley, and he's a not remotely 
 objective. He's a flaming right wing nutbag Obama hater.
 
  
  --- On Wed, 8/5/09, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:
  
  
  From: do.rflex do.rflex@ .
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
  Health Care Town Halls
  To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
  Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:44 PM
  
  
    
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
  
   What's funny about this is, these are Obama tactics coming back to bite 
   him in his own ass. He's the community organizer that helps groups like 
   ACORN do this very thing.
   
  
  Let's see you back up your claim, Mr Dixon.
  
  First, show that ACORN uses the tactics as described in the video report.
  
  Second, show that Obama helps groups like ACORN do this very thing. 
  
  BTW, do you think the 'South' will rise again?
  
   --- On Wed, 8/5/09, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ ... wrote:
   
   
   From: shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ ...
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
   Health Care Town Halls
   To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
   Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:22 PM
   
   
     
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:
   


Rachel Maddow - guest Chris Hayes on the Town Hall disrupters

Watch: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=17PLsr0- Hs4
   
   
   BillyG just presented the results of a poll showing that 45% of Americans 
   are satisfied with their health care.
   
   If that's the case, I can't imagine that that is entirely right wing, 
   first of all. So if there is going to be a mob, as you say, that shows 
   up at this event, why would it be described as right wing necessarily? 
   Democrats and left-wingers may very well be part of that 45% and I 
   suspect that they are and, indeed, make up a hefty part of it.
   
   No one should disrupt public meetings outside the bounds of acceptable 
   modes of protest. But people who are counter to a certain position have 
   every right to organise and show up at these things. I personally don't 
   like it when that happens and would prefer that it stays civil but it is, 
   after all, a town hall meeting.
   
   What bugs me is Bill Maher's show where there IS a mob mentality in his 
   studio audience which openly snickers, cat-calls, and drowns out 
   right-of-center voices on his show. I would much prefer that Maher keep 
   the exact same format he has but do it WITHOUT a studio audience.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
   
   But the fascinating one lately is Raunchydog, a sup-
   posed liberal who has been manipulated into believing 
   and repeating *exactly the same propaganda* by appeal-
   ing not to her sense of fear but to her attachment to 
   being a victim and to her hatred of Obama -- a hatred 
   she developed for no reason than that he proved that 
   the woman Raunchy had a crush on wasn't qualified to 
   be president. Being manipulated by those who prey on
   your fear is almost normal these days in America, but
   being manipulated by those who prey on your insane
   desire for *revenge*? That would be scary if the 
   person being manipulated were ignorant trailer trash.
   But when the person being manipulated is a 30-year
   TMer *acting* like ignorant trailer trash? *Really*
   scary.
  
  Notice that Barry has no proof of manipulation, quotes me 
  or offers specifics about the nature of exactly the same 
  propaganda I allegedly repeat, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST. 
 
 Au contraire. You are promoting *exactly* the 
 same Obama is trying to recruit people into
 spying for him and supplying him with the email
 addresses meme that the right wing is spouting.
 

Barry is wrong. The request for citizens to report fishy emails comes 
directly from the White House:

From the White House:

There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, 
spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors 
often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual 
conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, 
we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web 
about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to f...@whitehouse.gov 
 

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/

Who decide what is fishy? I don't agree with right wing opposition to health 
care and I don't believe the Democrats should do anything to torpedo the public 
option, which I believe the fishy email request will do. Obama has absolutely 
no business suppressing free speech. Only in totalitarian governments do 
citizens spy on citizens.  

 What is fascinating is that you don't seem to
 realize that it's the same meme, and that it 
 came from the same place, the same Republicunt
 thinktank that thought it up and then sent it
 out to the rightwing nutbag bloggers and to 
 the leftwing nutbag Hillarybot bloggers, know-
 ing that they'd all jump on it like white on
 rice and then broadcast it to their audience.
 
 What is hilarious is that you still believe
 yourself a liberal **AS** you parrot the Repub-
 licunt memes.





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of raunchydog
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:45 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White
House
 
 Barry is wrong. The request for citizens to report fishy emails comes
directly from the White House:

From the White House:

There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there,
spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors
often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual
conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White
House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on
the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to
f...@whitehouse.gov mailto:flag%40whitehouse.gov   

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/

Who decide what is fishy? I don't agree with right wing opposition to
health care and I don't believe the Democrats should do anything to torpedo
the public option, which I believe the fishy email request will do. Obama
has absolutely no business suppressing free speech. Only in totalitarian
governments do citizens spy on citizens.
 
They're not suppressing anything or spying on anyone. They're asking to be
informed of misinformation that is being forwarded around between millions
of people, so that they can get a sense of which lies are most commonplace
and most in need of rebuttal. 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread It's just a ride
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Rick Archerr...@searchsummit.com wrote:


 They're not suppressing anything or spying on anyone. They're asking to be
 informed of misinformation that is being forwarded around between millions
 of people, so that they can get a sense of which lies are most commonplace
 and most in need of rebuttal.


I agree.  I suppose those spreading false rumors about spying are
also part of the problem.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
   
   But the fascinating one lately is Raunchydog, a sup-
   posed liberal who has been manipulated into believing 
   and repeating *exactly the same propaganda* by appeal-
   ing not to her sense of fear but to her attachment to 
   being a victim and to her hatred of Obama -- a hatred 
   she developed for no reason than that he proved that 
   the woman Raunchy had a crush on wasn't qualified to 
   be president. Being manipulated by those who prey on
   your fear is almost normal these days in America, but
   being manipulated by those who prey on your insane
   desire for *revenge*? That would be scary if the 
   person being manipulated were ignorant trailer trash.
   But when the person being manipulated is a 30-year
   TMer *acting* like ignorant trailer trash? *Really*
   scary.
  
  Notice that Barry has no proof of manipulation, quotes me 
  or offers specifics about the nature of exactly the same 
  propaganda I allegedly repeat, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST. 
 
 Au contraire. You are promoting *exactly* the 
 same Obama is trying to recruit people into
 spying for him and supplying him with the email
 addresses meme that the right wing is spouting.
 
 What is fascinating is that you don't seem to
 realize that it's the same meme, and that it 
 came from the same place, the same Republicunt
 thinktank that thought it up and then sent it
 out to the rightwing nutbag bloggers and to 
 the leftwing nutbag Hillarybot bloggers, know-
 ing that they'd all jump on it like white on
 rice and then broadcast it to their audience.
 
 What is hilarious is that you still believe
 yourself a liberal **AS** you parrot the Repub-
 licunt memes.



I concur that Ms Dog's motivation is her blind hatred for Obama because her 
Champion Hillary was defeated by him. She'll even justify her agreement with 
the distorted claims of the wingnuts to be able to demean the one who 'done her 
woman wrong.'










[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Lost: The Ultimate Distraction!'

2009-08-06 Thread scienceofabundance
Why is there smoke coming out of her mouth? 



[FairfieldLife] THE SPIRITUAL BIBLE

2009-08-06 Thread Abir Taha
 
A Spiritual Journey of Self-Discovery beyond Eastern Fundamentalism and Western 
Materialism
 
 “Alas! The god in man remains a child waiting to mature. Shall man grow into a 
god, or is he doomed in his humanity?” This question, posed in the prologue of 
Abir Taha’s inspirational new philosophical novel, The Epic of Arya: In Search 
of the Sacred Light (www.the-epic-of-arya.com.), is central to the sacred 
mission of its main character, Arya, who seeks to find the god within.
 
The Epic of Aryais a spiritual bible, an allegorical novel that follows its 
narrator on a mesmerizing journey of self-discovery that will heal, awaken and 
transform readers with its messages on love, truth and spirituality.
 
Arya has a secret longing and a silent pain: half-woman, half-goddess, she is 
torn between Love and Truth, between passion and duty. When she wakes up from 
her eternal sleep into a new world that is surrounded by darkness and 
confusion, she wonders, “Why has the gloomy veil of Maya, goddess of illusion, 
covered the radiant face of Gaia our Earth? Where and why has the sun 
disappeared? Why is God dead?” But what she will discover is that the world has 
descended into ignorance, wearing the mask of “faith” in the East, when it is 
truly obscurantist fundamentalism, and the mask of “reason” in the West, which 
disguises atheist materialism. 
 
In exasperated despair, Arya resolves to roam the Earth in search of the lost 
sacred light that would end humanity’s eternal night. She travels from East to 
West in search of Hyperborea, otherwise known as Shambhala, the “land beyond 
the North wind,” where legend has it that the sun never sets and where gods 
first existed on the earth and lived among men by speaking through them. 
 
On her journey, Arya meets various characters that serve as mediators to the 
discovery of her own identity and divinity, including a wise old man from the 
East, an old woman from the North, a knight with whom Arya falls in love, the 
King of the World, and a prophet who is Arya’s soul-mate and the invisible, 
constant presence which guides her. 
 
As Taha explains, these characters are aspects of Arya’s own soul and the souls 
of all people. “Life is first and foremost an inner journey of self-discovery,” 
writes Taha. “All the people we meet on our path are archetypes, symbols, 
states of mind, milestones that lead us back to our own inner journey on the 
path of awakening.”
 
Full of practical wisdom, poetic prose and spirituality steeped in philosophy, 
The Epic of Arya conveys a universal message of unity, hope and salvation in a 
world torn apart by the clash of civilizations and religions, offering a 
spiritual alternative. 


  

[FairfieldLife] Rachel Maddow: Corporate thuggery behind anti-health care 'activists'

2009-08-06 Thread do.rflex


Rachel exposes the right wing corporate organizers behind the thuggery at 
health care town halls.

This is how Corporate America creates the illusion of a 'grass roots' movement 
to support their own interests.

Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xlqxSRhARU



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

But the fascinating one lately is Raunchydog, a sup-
posed liberal who has been manipulated into believing 
and repeating *exactly the same propaganda* by appeal-
ing not to her sense of fear but to her attachment to 
being a victim and to her hatred of Obama -- a hatred 
she developed for no reason than that he proved that 
the woman Raunchy had a crush on wasn't qualified to 
be president. Being manipulated by those who prey on
your fear is almost normal these days in America, but
being manipulated by those who prey on your insane
desire for *revenge*? That would be scary if the 
person being manipulated were ignorant trailer trash.
But when the person being manipulated is a 30-year
TMer *acting* like ignorant trailer trash? *Really*
scary.
   
   Notice that Barry has no proof of manipulation, quotes me 
   or offers specifics about the nature of exactly the same 
   propaganda I allegedly repeat, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST. 
  
  Au contraire. You are promoting *exactly* the 
  same Obama is trying to recruit people into
  spying for him and supplying him with the email
  addresses meme that the right wing is spouting.
  
  What is fascinating is that you don't seem to
  realize that it's the same meme, and that it 
  came from the same place, the same Republicunt
  thinktank that thought it up and then sent it
  out to the rightwing nutbag bloggers and to 
  the leftwing nutbag Hillarybot bloggers, know-
  ing that they'd all jump on it like white on
  rice and then broadcast it to their audience.
  
  What is hilarious is that you still believe
  yourself a liberal **AS** you parrot the Repub-
  licunt memes.
 
 
 
 I concur that Ms Dog's motivation is her blind hatred for Obama because her 
 Champion Hillary was defeated by him. She'll even justify her agreement 
 with the distorted claims of the wingnuts to be able to demean the one who 
 'done her woman wrong.'


Quoting myself again:

There isn't any reason for Obama to have private email addresses to counter 
disinformation. Homeland Security and the FBI can easily find out whats 
happening on the internet and Axelrod knows exactly how to counter as well as 
spread disinformation. Citizen ratting on each only creates a climate of 
paranoia, inflames the opposition, suppresses free speech and ensures the 
necessity of a compromise on health care which will nix the public option. RD

Who decides what is fishy? I don't agree with right wing opposition to 
health care and I don't believe the Democrats should do anything to torpedo the 
public option, which I believe the fishy email request will do. Obama has 
absolutely no business suppressing free speech. Only in totalitarian 
governments do citizens spy on citizens. RD

It's a fact that the request for fishy emails came from the White House. It 
is not a rightwing meme. Your inability to see anything wrong with ANYONE in 
government asking citizens to report fishy emails isn't fishy encroachment on 
YOUR first amendment rights. Just imagine the howling you would do if Bush 
asked for emails for people protesting the Iraq War. If Hillary were pulling 
this same shit, I would object to it as well. This is not a matter of partisan 
grandstanding on my part. It is a matter of standing up for what is right and 
objecting when the government ANY government, Bush, Obama, Hillary, ANYONE 
seeks to intimidate people exercising their right to free speech. If you don't 
hold your government to account, no matter who is in power, count yourself 
among the Sheeple. 

I support a health care bill WITH a public option. IMO this tactic only lessens 
the chance of that happening.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread Bhairitu
raunchydog wrote:

 Apparently Obama gives a shit about suppressing free speech by encouraging 
 citizens to rat on each other and doesn't give a shit for the reasons you 
 suggested:

 to learn what disinfo is being circulated so they can prepare the 
 appropriate counter arguments. 

You still don't get it.  It's about the disinformation not about 
collecting email addresses.  It's not about suppressing free speech.  If 
anyone is trying to suppress free speech it is the teabaggers 
themselves.  Wake up and smell the coffee.  Who's stirring this up?  Not 
the WH but the criminal run health insurance companies who are trying 
hoodwink you so they can continue ripping off the public.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Ayahuasca Experience

2009-08-06 Thread John
Apparently, it induces psychedelic visions.  In mythological terms, the person 
who takes it communes with the gods, or beings from another world.

Nonetheless, one should be wary in using any types of drugs.  In jyotish, drugs 
can be represented by Rahu, a malefic planet that induces heightened 
experiences, or other compulsive behaviours.

Believe or not, a computer scientist is using the effects of ayahuasca as a 
model to build quantum computers.  

JR











--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote:

 
 No.
 
 --- On Thu, 8/6/09, John jr_...@... wrote:
 
  From: John jr_...@...
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ayahuasca Experience
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 4:29 AM
  To All:
  
  Is this the Soma found in the Amazon forest?
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM8_fpDxUiY
  
  
  
  
  
  To subscribe, send a message to:
  fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
  
  Or go to: 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 raunchydog wrote:
 
  Apparently Obama gives a shit about suppressing free speech by encouraging 
  citizens to rat on each other and doesn't give a shit for the reasons you 
  suggested:
 
  to learn what disinfo is being circulated so they can prepare the 
  appropriate counter arguments. 
 
 You still don't get it.  It's about the disinformation not about 
 collecting email addresses.  It's not about suppressing free speech.  If 
 anyone is trying to suppress free speech it is the teabaggers 
 themselves.  Wake up and smell the coffee.  Who's stirring this up?  Not 
 the WH but the criminal run health insurance companies who are trying 
 hoodwink you so they can continue ripping off the public.


What you don't get is that both the Democrats and Republicans are sleeping in 
the same bed with the insurance industry. This just smoke and mirrors to quash 
the public option.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
 But the fascinating one lately is Raunchydog, a sup-
 posed liberal who has been manipulated into believing 
 and repeating *exactly the same propaganda* by appeal-
 ing not to her sense of fear but to her attachment to 
 being a victim and to her hatred of Obama -- a hatred 
 she developed for no reason than that he proved that 
 the woman Raunchy had a crush on wasn't qualified to 
 be president. Being manipulated by those who prey on
 your fear is almost normal these days in America, but
 being manipulated by those who prey on your insane
 desire for *revenge*? That would be scary if the 
 person being manipulated were ignorant trailer trash.
 But when the person being manipulated is a 30-year
 TMer *acting* like ignorant trailer trash? *Really*
 scary.

Notice that Barry has no proof of manipulation, quotes me 
or offers specifics about the nature of exactly the same 
propaganda I allegedly repeat, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST. 
   
   Au contraire. You are promoting *exactly* the 
   same Obama is trying to recruit people into
   spying for him and supplying him with the email
   addresses meme that the right wing is spouting.
   
   What is fascinating is that you don't seem to
   realize that it's the same meme, and that it 
   came from the same place, the same Republicunt
   thinktank that thought it up and then sent it
   out to the rightwing nutbag bloggers and to 
   the leftwing nutbag Hillarybot bloggers, know-
   ing that they'd all jump on it like white on
   rice and then broadcast it to their audience.
   
   What is hilarious is that you still believe
   yourself a liberal **AS** you parrot the Repub-
   licunt memes.
  
  
  
  I concur that Ms Dog's motivation is her blind hatred for Obama because her 
  Champion Hillary was defeated by him. She'll even justify her agreement 
  with the distorted claims of the wingnuts to be able to demean the one who 
  'done her woman wrong.'
 
 
 Quoting myself again:
 
 There isn't any reason for Obama to have private email addresses to counter 
 disinformation. Homeland Security and the FBI can easily find out whats 
 happening on the internet and Axelrod knows exactly how to counter as well as 
 spread disinformation. Citizen ratting on each only creates a climate of 
 paranoia, inflames the opposition, suppresses free speech and ensures the 
 necessity of a compromise on health care which will nix the public option. RD
 
 Who decides what is fishy? I don't agree with right wing opposition to 
 health care and I don't believe the Democrats should do anything to torpedo 
 the public option, which I believe the fishy email request will do. Obama has 
 absolutely no business suppressing free speech. Only in totalitarian 
 governments do citizens spy on citizens. RD
 
 It's a fact that the request for fishy emails came from the White House. 





 Your warped view of Obama for the reasons I gave [which are surley obvious to 
those paying attention to your posts] distorts his motives into something 
sinister when it simply isn't. 

Rick said it clearly:

They're not suppressing anything or spying on anyone. They're asking to be 
informed of misinformation that is being forwarded around between millions of 
people, so that they can get a sense of which lies are most commonplace and 
most in need of rebuttal.







It is not a rightwing meme. Your inability to see anything wrong with ANYONE in 
government asking citizens to report fishy emails isn't fishy encroachment on 
YOUR first amendment rights. Just imagine the howling you would do if Bush 
asked for emails for people protesting the Iraq War. If Hillary were pulling 
this same shit, I would object to it as well. This is not a matter of partisan 
grandstanding on my part. It is a matter of standing up for what is right and 
objecting when the government ANY government, Bush, Obama, Hillary, ANYONE 
seeks to intimidate people exercising their right to free speech. If you don't 
hold your government to account, no matter who is in power, count yourself 
among the Sheeple. 
 
 I support a health care bill WITH a public option. IMO this tactic only 
 lessens the chance of that happening.





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of raunchydog
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:24 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White
House
 
  
Quoting myself again:

There isn't any reason for Obama to have private email addresses to counter
disinformation.
To reiterate what Bhairtu just said, they're not trying to collect email
addresses. They're interested in the content of the emails which are
spreading lies around the country, so they can put out rebuttals to those
lies. Your posts fall into that category by claiming that the administration
is trying to spy, collect emails, etc. So either you're misinformed,
confused, or deliberately trying to do damage, with no concern for truth, as
are the right wing nutters.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread It's just a ride
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:28 AM, raunchydograunchy...@yahoo.com wrote:
 What you don't get is that both the Democrats and Republicans are sleeping in 
 the same bed with the insurance industry. This just smoke and mirrors to 
 quash the public option.

Not true.  Public option will go into the exchange where those
electing the public option will have the benefit of mass pricing and
safeguards from being denied coverage because of pre-existing
condition or being dropped because of an expensive claim.

RD, I never believed you'd lie, cheat and do anything to get back at
the guy who rightly trounced your unworthy candidate.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:


[snip]

 
  Your warped view of Obama for the reasons I gave [which are surley obvious 
 to those paying attention to your posts] distorts his motives into something 
 sinister when it simply isn't. 
 
 Rick said it clearly:
 
 They're not suppressing anything or spying on anyone. They're asking to be 
 informed of misinformation that is being forwarded around between millions of 
 people, so that they can get a sense of which lies are most commonplace and 
 most in need of rebuttal.

[snip]


You sound like Hugo Chavez, John, when people protest to him that he is 
stifling freedom of the press and the right to dissent when Chavez closes down 
virtually all the media outlets that oppose him: Oh, no, we're not stifling 
dissent we're merely closing down media that are operating outside the law.

You also sound like supporters of Joe McCarthy.

The White House has no place asking for people to rat on other citizens by 
sending the words of dissenting voices to the government.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
 
 [snip]
 
  
   Your warped view of Obama for the reasons I gave [which are surley obvious 
  to those paying attention to your posts] distorts his motives into 
  something sinister when it simply isn't. 
  
  Rick said it clearly:
  
  They're not suppressing anything or spying on anyone. They're asking to be 
  informed of misinformation that is being forwarded around between millions 
  of people, so that they can get a sense of which lies are most commonplace 
  and most in need of rebuttal.
 
 [snip]
 
 
 You sound like Hugo Chavez, John, when people protest to him that he is 
 stifling freedom of the press and the right to dissent when Chavez closes 
 down virtually all the media outlets that oppose him: Oh, no, we're not 
 stifling dissent we're merely closing down media that are operating outside 
 the law.
 
 You also sound like supporters of Joe McCarthy.
 
 The White House has no place asking for people to rat on other citizens by 
 sending the words of dissenting voices to the government.



Right. Uh-huh.








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt Health Care Town Halls

2009-08-06 Thread Mike Dixon
I'm curious Reflux, how often do you bother to verify Maddow's *facts*and to 
what extent ? You don't... do you? As for loonies, they are out there. Remember 
Bush was *selected not elected* Bush was AWOL, Bush was a cocaine addict, 911 
was an inside job, it was a missile, not a jet, that hit the Pentagon,  Blood 
for oil, Bush is stealing Iraqi oil,Bush is getting ready to suspend the 
constitution and declare marshal law, etc. You fell for all that crap, didn't 
you. I bet Rachel Maddow did also.

--- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt Health 
Care Town Halls
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:36 PM


  



--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:

 And Maddow is ...objective?

The difference is that Maddow backs up her reports with verifiable facts. The 
wingnuts simply make stuff up - like FEMA concentration camps for Obama's 
political enemies and mandatory service for young people where they'll be 
subject to 're-education' indoctrination to turn them agqainst their parents, 
Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, etc., etc.

There's a whole boat-load of easily lead gullible idiots who believe crap like 
that that. Are you one of them, Dixon?

 
 --- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rf...@.. . wrote:
 
 
 From: do.rflex do.rf...@.. .
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
 Health Care Town Halls
 To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:11 AM
 
 
   
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
 
  All you have to do is Google* Inside Obama's Acorn* by Stanly Kurtz. But 
  there are many others.
 
 
 The correct spelling of his name is Stanley, and he's a not remotely 
 objective. He's a flaming right wing nutbag Obama hater.
 
  
  --- On Wed, 8/5/09, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:
  
  
  From: do.rflex do.rflex@ .
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
  Health Care Town Halls
  To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
  Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:44 PM
  
  
    
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
  
   What's funny about this is, these are Obama tactics coming back to bite 
   him in his own ass. He's the community organizer that helps groups like 
   ACORN do this very thing.
   
  
  Let's see you back up your claim, Mr Dixon.
  
  First, show that ACORN uses the tactics as described in the video report.
  
  Second, show that Obama helps groups like ACORN do this very thing. 
  
  BTW, do you think the 'South' will rise again?
  
   --- On Wed, 8/5/09, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ ... wrote:
   
   
   From: shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ ...
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
   Health Care Town Halls
   To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
   Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:22 PM
   
   
     
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:
   


Rachel Maddow - guest Chris Hayes on the Town Hall disrupters

Watch: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=17PLsr0- Hs4
   
   
   BillyG just presented the results of a poll showing that 45% of Americans 
   are satisfied with their health care.
   
   If that's the case, I can't imagine that that is entirely right wing, 
   first of all. So if there is going to be a mob, as you say, that shows 
   up at this event, why would it be described as right wing necessarily? 
   Democrats and left-wingers may very well be part of that 45% and I 
   suspect that they are and, indeed, make up a hefty part of it.
   
   No one should disrupt public meetings outside the bounds of acceptable 
   modes of protest. But people who are counter to a certain position have 
   every right to organise and show up at these things. I personally don't 
   like it when that happens and would prefer that it stays civil but it is, 
   after all, a town hall meeting.
   
   What bugs me is Bill Maher's show where there IS a mob mentality in his 
   studio audience which openly snickers, cat-calls, and drowns out 
   right-of-center voices on his show. I would much prefer that Maher keep 
   the exact same format he has but do it WITHOUT a studio audience.
  
 


















  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread Bhairitu
raunchydog wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
   
 raunchydog wrote:
 
 Apparently Obama gives a shit about suppressing free speech by encouraging 
 citizens to rat on each other and doesn't give a shit for the reasons you 
 suggested:

 to learn what disinfo is being circulated so they can prepare the 
 appropriate counter arguments. 
   
 You still don't get it.  It's about the disinformation not about 
 collecting email addresses.  It's not about suppressing free speech.  If 
 anyone is trying to suppress free speech it is the teabaggers 
 themselves.  Wake up and smell the coffee.  Who's stirring this up?  Not 
 the WH but the criminal run health insurance companies who are trying 
 hoodwink you so they can continue ripping off the public.

 

 What you don't get is that both the Democrats and Republicans are sleeping in 
 the same bed with the insurance industry. This just smoke and mirrors to 
 quash the public option.
Oh yes I get that and have said so many times.  Never said that congress 
wasn't corrupt.  That's why we need to push for single payer.  After all 
I was opposed to ANY bailout last September.  There were both 
progressives and conservatives opposed to it.  It was a sellout to the 
banksters and their wealthy offshore backers.  Love to see those age old 
families lose their money.  They SO deserve it.

Worse then that is our congress critters are obsolete.  There are 
probably few if any of them who understand technology and yet they are 
passing very stupid technology laws at the behest of lobbyists.

This whole thing is just amusing to me.  It IS like a national IQ test 
and many are failing.  Aren't we fortunate to be alive in such an 
exciting time?



[FairfieldLife] Keep Track of the Right Wing Lies Here

2009-08-06 Thread Bhairitu
This site list the lies and disinfo on the health reform bill:
http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:54 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White
House
 
You sound like Hugo Chavez, John, when people protest to him that he is
stifling freedom of the press and the right to dissent when Chavez closes
down virtually all the media outlets that oppose him: Oh, no, we're not
stifling dissent we're merely closing down media that are operating outside
the law.

You also sound like supporters of Joe McCarthy.

The White House has no place asking for people to rat on other citizens by
sending the words of dissenting voices to the government.
 
Who's talking about closing down the media? It's statements like that that
characterize the right wing as raving lunatics who deserve to be as
marginalized as they have become. They just want to be kept abreast of all
the bullshit that goes around so they can counter it with the truth.
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread It's just a ride
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Rick Archerr...@searchsummit.com wrote:
 Who's talking about closing down the media? It's statements like that that
 characterize the right wing as raving lunatics who deserve to be as
 marginalized as they have become. They just want to be kept abreast of all
 the bullshit that goes around so they can counter it with the truth.


Rick, I have this strong sense of discomfort.  I find myself actually
agreeing with you on this.  I hope it's just a case of every 12 hours
even a broken clock tells the right time.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt Health Care Town Halls

2009-08-06 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:

 I'm curious Reflux, how often do you bother to verify Maddow's *facts*and to 
 what extent ? You don't... do you? 



Rachel provides the sources for those facts as she reports them - which you'd 
have noticed if it really was important to you.



As for loonies, they are out there. Remember Bush was *selected not 
elected* Bush was AWOL, Bush was a cocaine addict, 911 was an inside job, it 
was a missile, not a jet, that hit the Pentagon,  Blood for oil, Bush is 
stealing Iraqi oil,Bush is getting ready to suspend the constitution and 
declare marshal law, etc. You fell for all that crap, didn't you. I bet Rachel 
Maddow did also.



It isn't possible to reason with the remaining 20% dead-ender fringe. They're 
simply not capable of it.


~~ The Incredible Shrinking GOP: Only 20 Percent Self-Identify As Republican ~~

= = Earlier this week a Washington Post poll made a big splash because it  
found that only 21 percent self-identify as Republicans. The abysmally low 
number  got pundits and reporters talking about whether the GOP is shrinking to 
the point of irrelevance.

Now we have another poll that finds that the number of self-identified 
Republicans has dropped even lower: 20 percent.

Here are the key numbers, buried in the internals of the new NBC/WSJ poll:

- Thirteen percent identify themselves as a strong Republican; seven percent 
as a not very strong Republican. Total: Twenty percent.

http://snipurl.com/ov48x  [theplumline_whorunsgov_com] 



 
 --- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:
 
 
 From: do.rflex do.rf...@...
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
 Health Care Town Halls
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:36 PM
 
 
   
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
 
  And Maddow is ...objective?
 
 The difference is that Maddow backs up her reports with verifiable facts. The 
 wingnuts simply make stuff up - like FEMA concentration camps for Obama's 
 political enemies and mandatory service for young people where they'll be 
 subject to 're-education' indoctrination to turn them agqainst their parents, 
 Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, etc., etc.
 
 There's a whole boat-load of easily lead gullible idiots who believe crap 
 like that that. Are you one of them, Dixon?
 
  
  --- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:
  
  
  From: do.rflex do.rflex@ .
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
  Health Care Town Halls
  To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
  Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:11 AM
  
  
    
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
  
   All you have to do is Google* Inside Obama's Acorn* by Stanly Kurtz. But 
   there are many others.
  
  
  The correct spelling of his name is Stanley, and he's a not remotely 
  objective. He's a flaming right wing nutbag Obama hater.
  
   
   --- On Wed, 8/5/09, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:
   
   
   From: do.rflex do.rflex@ .
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
   Health Care Town Halls
   To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
   Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:44 PM
   
   
     
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... 
   wrote:
   
What's funny about this is, these are Obama tactics coming back to bite 
him in his own ass. He's the community organizer that helps groups like 
ACORN do this very thing.

   
   Let's see you back up your claim, Mr Dixon.
   
   First, show that ACORN uses the tactics as described in the video report.
   
   Second, show that Obama helps groups like ACORN do this very thing. 
   
   BTW, do you think the 'South' will rise again?
   
--- On Wed, 8/5/09, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ ... wrote:


From: shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ ...
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to 
Disrupt Health Care Town Halls
To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:22 PM


  



--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:

 
 
 Rachel Maddow - guest Chris Hayes on the Town Hall disrupters
 
 Watch: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=17PLsr0- Hs4


BillyG just presented the results of a poll showing that 45% of 
Americans are satisfied with their health care.

If that's the case, I can't imagine that that is entirely right wing, 
first of all. So if there is going to be a mob, as you say, that 
shows up at this event, why would it be described as right wing 
necessarily? Democrats and left-wingers may very well be part of that 
45% and I suspect that they are and, indeed, make up a hefty part of it.

No one should disrupt public meetings outside the bounds 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt Health Care Town Halls

2009-08-06 Thread Mike Dixon
And you verify those sources for accuracy? Or do you just beleive her becuase 
you like what she says?

--- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt Health 
Care Town Halls
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 5:23 PM


  



--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:

 I'm curious Reflux, how often do you bother to verify Maddow's *facts*and to 
 what extent ? You don't... do you? 


Rachel provides the sources for those facts as she reports them - which you'd 
have noticed if it really was important to you.


As for loonies, they are out there. Remember Bush was *selected not 
elected* Bush was AWOL, Bush was a cocaine addict, 911 was an inside job, it 
was a missile, not a jet, that hit the Pentagon,  Blood for oil, Bush is 
stealing Iraqi oil,Bush is getting ready to suspend the constitution and 
declare marshal law, etc. You fell for all that crap, didn't you. I bet Rachel 
Maddow did also.


It isn't possible to reason with the remaining 20% dead-ender fringe. They're 
simply not capable of it.

~~ The Incredible Shrinking GOP: Only 20 Percent Self-Identify As Republican ~~

= = Earlier this week a Washington Post poll made a big splash because it found 
that only 21 percent self-identify as Republicans. The abysmally low number got 
pundits and reporters talking about whether the GOP is shrinking to the point 
of irrelevance.

Now we have another poll that finds that the number of self-identified 
Republicans has dropped even lower: 20 percent.

Here are the key numbers, buried in the internals of the new NBC/WSJ poll:

- Thirteen percent identify themselves as a strong Republican; seven percent 
as a not very strong Republican. Total: Twenty percent.

http://snipurl. com/ov48x [theplumline_ whorunsgov_ com] 

 --- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rf...@.. . wrote:
 
 
 From: do.rflex do.rf...@.. .
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
 Health Care Town Halls
 To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:36 PM
 
 
   
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
 
  And Maddow is ...objective?
 
 The difference is that Maddow backs up her reports with verifiable facts. The 
 wingnuts simply make stuff up - like FEMA concentration camps for Obama's 
 political enemies and mandatory service for young people where they'll be 
 subject to 're-education' indoctrination to turn them agqainst their parents, 
 Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, etc., etc.
 
 There's a whole boat-load of easily lead gullible idiots who believe crap 
 like that that. Are you one of them, Dixon?
 
  
  --- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:
  
  
  From: do.rflex do.rflex@ .
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
  Health Care Town Halls
  To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
  Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:11 AM
  
  
    
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
  
   All you have to do is Google* Inside Obama's Acorn* by Stanly Kurtz. But 
   there are many others.
  
  
  The correct spelling of his name is Stanley, and he's a not remotely 
  objective. He's a flaming right wing nutbag Obama hater.
  
   
   --- On Wed, 8/5/09, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:
   
   
   From: do.rflex do.rflex@ .
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
   Health Care Town Halls
   To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
   Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:44 PM
   
   
     
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... 
   wrote:
   
What's funny about this is, these are Obama tactics coming back to bite 
him in his own ass. He's the community organizer that helps groups like 
ACORN do this very thing.

   
   Let's see you back up your claim, Mr Dixon.
   
   First, show that ACORN uses the tactics as described in the video report.
   
   Second, show that Obama helps groups like ACORN do this very thing. 
   
   BTW, do you think the 'South' will rise again?
   
--- On Wed, 8/5/09, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ ... wrote:


From: shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ ...
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to 
Disrupt Health Care Town Halls
To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:22 PM


  



--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:

 
 
 Rachel Maddow - guest Chris Hayes on the Town Hall disrupters
 
 Watch: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=17PLsr0- Hs4


BillyG just presented the results of a poll showing that 45% of 
Americans are satisfied with their health care.

If that's the case, I can't imagine that that is 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt Health Care Town Halls

2009-08-06 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:

 And you verify those sources for accuracy? Or do you just beleive her becuase 
 you like what she says?



I haven't seen anything she's reported to be innacurate. She's even gone after 
Obama on a number of issues. 

Maddow doesn't make stuff up like the loonies on the far right do. 

I gave a few examples of the bullshit reported by the loons on the right - 
Glenn Beck and his FEMA concentration camps - Michelle Bachmann and her claims 
of mandatory 're-education' camps for the young. 

Can you give examples of anything Maddow has reported that's similarly turned 
out to be such fabricated bullshit?



 
 --- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:
 
 
 From: do.rflex do.rf...@...
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
 Health Care Town Halls
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 5:23 PM
 
 
   
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
 
  I'm curious Reflux, how often do you bother to verify Maddow's *facts*and 
  to what extent ? You don't... do you? 
 
 
 Rachel provides the sources for those facts as she reports them - which you'd 
 have noticed if it really was important to you.
 
 
 As for loonies, they are out there. Remember Bush was *selected not 
 elected* Bush was AWOL, Bush was a cocaine addict, 911 was an inside job, it 
 was a missile, not a jet, that hit the Pentagon,  Blood for oil, Bush is 
 stealing Iraqi oil,Bush is getting ready to suspend the constitution and 
 declare marshal law, etc. You fell for all that crap, didn't you. I bet 
 Rachel Maddow did also.
 
 
 It isn't possible to reason with the remaining 20% dead-ender fringe. They're 
 simply not capable of it.
 
 ~~ The Incredible Shrinking GOP: Only 20 Percent Self-Identify As Republican 
 ~~
 
 = = Earlier this week a Washington Post poll made a big splash because it 
 found that only 21 percent self-identify as Republicans. The abysmally low 
 number got pundits and reporters talking about whether the GOP is shrinking 
 to the point of irrelevance.
 
 Now we have another poll that finds that the number of self-identified 
 Republicans has dropped even lower: 20 percent.
 
 Here are the key numbers, buried in the internals of the new NBC/WSJ poll:
 
 - Thirteen percent identify themselves as a strong Republican; seven 
 percent as a not very strong Republican. Total: Twenty percent.
 
 http://snipurl. com/ov48x [theplumline_ whorunsgov_ com] 
 
  --- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:
  
  
  From: do.rflex do.rflex@ .
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
  Health Care Town Halls
  To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
  Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:36 PM
  
  
    
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
  
   And Maddow is ...objective?
  
  The difference is that Maddow backs up her reports with verifiable facts. 
  The wingnuts simply make stuff up - like FEMA concentration camps for 
  Obama's political enemies and mandatory service for young people where 
  they'll be subject to 're-education' indoctrination to turn them agqainst 
  their parents, Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, etc., etc.
  
  There's a whole boat-load of easily lead gullible idiots who believe crap 
  like that that. Are you one of them, Dixon?
  
   
   --- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:
   
   
   From: do.rflex do.rflex@ .
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
   Health Care Town Halls
   To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
   Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:11 AM
   
   
     
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... 
   wrote:
   
All you have to do is Google* Inside Obama's Acorn* by Stanly Kurtz. 
But there are many others.
   
   
   The correct spelling of his name is Stanley, and he's a not remotely 
   objective. He's a flaming right wing nutbag Obama hater.
   

--- On Wed, 8/5/09, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:


From: do.rflex do.rflex@ .
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to 
Disrupt Health Care Town Halls
To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:44 PM


  



--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... 
wrote:

 What's funny about this is, these are Obama tactics coming back to 
 bite him in his own ass. He's the community organizer that helps 
 groups like ACORN do this very thing.
 

Let's see you back up your claim, Mr Dixon.

First, show that ACORN uses the tactics as described in the video 
report.

Second, show that Obama helps groups like ACORN do this very thing. 

BTW, do you think the 'South' will rise again?

 --- On Wed, 8/5/09, 

[FairfieldLife] Is It Just Me?

2009-08-06 Thread do.rflex

Is It Just Me? http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=25088
by John Cole

  [i-see-stupid-people]

Is it just me, or does everything just seem stupider than normal this
August recess? Between Mouthpiece Theater and the Atlantic phoning it in
and Alessandra Stanley making a mistake every sentence and morons
getting caught while taking a luxurious stroll through Iraq and wingnuts
threatening congressmen because they are trying to reform health care
and congressmen whinging about empathy and racist latinas on and on and
on, it just seems like everything is dumber this summer.

And I say that knowing full well that last August brought us Sarah
Palin. Times like this, there really is only one thing that can cheer me
up:

  [goinggalt1]




I feel better.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=25088







[FairfieldLife] Birther movement hatched by Left-Wing: Coulter

2009-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
Several days ago I posited a question here whether the birther movement was 
started by those on the left and Democrats, not by Republicans as had been 
popularaly reported.

Judy responded that, no, it was a radical right-wing group.

Just co-incidentally, Ann Coulter's column that came out yesterday touches on 
this question and, according to her (see 3rd paragraph below), the birthers 
were indeed initiated by the left-wing.



OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE SPOTTED IN BOGUS MOON LANDING FOOTAGE
August 5, 2009


Tardy though they are, we welcome MSNBC to finally joining every major 
conservative news outlet -- including Fox News, The American Spectator, Human 
Events, National Review and Sweetness  Light -- in discrediting the idea that 
President Obama wasn't born in this country and, therefore, is ineligible to be 
president. 

Now the big question: Was Joe Biden born on this planet? 

Inasmuch as the birther movement was hatched in the station wagon of MSNBC's 
favorite left-wing fantasist, Larry Johnson, maybe the mainstream media can 
stop acting as if it's a creation of the Republican National Committee. 

Which party contains 99 percent of the people who believe (or believed): 

-- O.J. is innocent; 

-- Bush shirked his National Guard duty; 

-- Sarah Palin's infant child, Trig, was actually the child of her daughter; 

-- Justice Antonin Scalia threw the 2000 election to Bush so that his son could 
get a legal job with the Labor Department; 

-- The spectacularly guilty Mumia Abu-Jamal was framed; 

-- The Diebold Corp. secretly stole thousands of Kerry votes in 2004; 

-- Duke lacrosse players gang-raped a stripper; 

-- Bill Clinton did not have sex with that woman; 

-- Heterosexuals are just as likely to contract AIDS as gays; 

-- John Edwards didn't have an affair with Rielle Hunter; 

-- John Edwards' campaign aide Andrew Young is the father of Rielle Hunter's 
child. 

And as has been recently noted, a 2007 Rasmussen poll showed that 35 percent of 
Democrats believe Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks in advance, while 26 percent 
aren't sure ... 

Holy mackerel. 

Another favorite MSNBC guest, Janeane Garofalo, believes Enron's Ken Lay faked 
his own death. It's weird that Keith Olbermann didn't ask her about that when 
she was on his show a couple of months ago, given his sudden interest in 
stamping out conspiracy theories. 

Also trying to revive his failing TV show, MSNBC'S Chris Matthews has been 
denouncing the birthers on Hardball nightly and demanding that every elected 
Republican who appears on his show do the same. 

How many times has Matthews forced Democratic officeholders to denounce Al 
Sharpton for the Tawana Brawley hoax? Or for that matter, how many times has he 
forced Sharpton -- a frequent guest on his show -- to admit the case was a 
fraud? 

Sharpton has veto power over all Democratic presidential candidates. Even Al 
Gore, a former vice president of the United States, was required to kiss 
Sharpton's ring. 

If there ever comes a time when Republican presidential candidates have to get 
the blessing of the head of the birther movement to run, I'll say: I'm wrong -- 
Republicans do have as many conspiracy nuts as the Democrats. 

Not content with merely humoring their nuts, Democratic officeholders promote 
conspiracy theories themselves. 

In 2003, Democratic presidential candidate and future Democratic National 
Committee Chairman Howard Dean approvingly cited the left-wing lunacy that 
Saudi Arabia had warned Bush in advance about the 9/11 attacks. He promised a 
caller to National Public Radio that, if elected, he would investigate. 

In the fall of 2004, Clinton's Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said she 
believed Bush was holding Osama bin Laden and planned to release him just 
before the election. (She later claimed she was joking -- a surprise to all 
three witnesses who heard her say it.) 

Sen. Barbara Boxer officially objected to the certification of Ohio's votes in 
the 2004 election -- on the Senate floor -- and demanded an investigation into 
the Diebold stole Kerry votes conspiracy theory. 

And, of course, a Democratic House and Senate actually used official government 
proceedings to investigate the original nut-job conspiracy theory, the October 
Surprise, maintaining that Reagan struck a secret deal with the Iranians not 
to release the hostages until after the 1980 election. 

Now, the only October surprise will come under ObamaCare: Order an MRI in April 
and get it by ... October -- surprise! 

Rosie O'Donnell -- who has headlined many a Democratic fundraiser -- is a 
prominent 9/11 truther. She believes the World Trade Center was blown up with 
explosives, not taken down by terrorists in airplanes. 

Most shockingly, the Democrats have a hand-in-glove relationship with Michael 
Moore, crackpot documentarian, whose Fahrenheit 9/11 is chock-a-block with 
demented conspiracy theories, including: 

-- the 

[FairfieldLife] The Big Dog is Back

2009-08-06 Thread do.rflex


Jon Stewart welcomed former President Bill Clinton back to the world stage last 
night on the Daily Show. 

Very funny. 

Here's the clip: 
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/08/06/the_big_dog_is_back.html

or,

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-august-5-2009/william-jefferson-airplane



RE: [FairfieldLife] 60+ German Scientists dissent over global warming

2009-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/04/07/morano-climate-depot-joke/ is a
commentary on your source.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Wants to Kill Your Grandmother

2009-08-06 Thread WillyTex
Vaj wrote:
 Five Right-wing lies meant to scare the ignorant:
 
Don't you just hate those right-wing liars?

How can the Obama administration remake one-sixth of 
the economy if it can't even handle a used-car program? 

A billion-dollar program that was supposed to last till 
November, ran out of money in five days? This is just 
outrageous! 

No wonder more  Americans are opposed to Cash for 
Clunkers and Federal Government Health Care Programs. 

Read more:

'Time for Plan B?' 
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post, August 4, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/m3gcz6



[FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt Health Care Town Halls

2009-08-06 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:

 Not only stuff she has said, but is DNC propagated. All these town hall 
 meetings are organized by the Insurance companies and the Republican party.  




Apparently you didn't carefully watch her report here: 

Corporate thuggery behind anti-health care 'activists

Rachel exposes the right wing corporate organizers behind the thuggery at 
health care town halls.

This is how Corporate America creates the illusion of a 'grass roots' movement 
to support their own interests.

Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xlqxSRhARU

  

They say this because this is how *community organizers* do it! THAT is your 
astro turf. They can not beleive the masses reject their ideas  and demand they 
stop. I have no doubt that people in the insurance industry and Republicans 
attend these meetings to see what the public sentiment is, but to say that they 
are orchistrating them is pure BS. They couldn't do that if they had months of 
planning. Have you been to any of them? They are every day people, republican, 
democrat and independant that are very concerned about the direction all of 
this is going and they don't like it. They see an over bloated  federal 
government amassing more and more power  over thier lives, that they will have 
to pay for with higher and higher taxes and the loss of their personal 
freedoms. They don't want their
  retirement pensions made worthless form inflation induced by the printing of 
 money. They  threw Republicans out of power in 2006 because they spent our 
 tax dollars like drunken sailors And they are seeing the same thing, on 
 steroids, out of the current congress. Something very very uggly is brewing 
 out there, fed by the arrogance of those in power and refusing to stop and 
 listen to the people. There will be a blood bath (figuratively) in 2010 and 
 the party in power is going to have a very rude awakening if they don't have 
 a major attitude adjustmentsoon.
 



Like I said: It isn't possible to reason with the remaining 20% dead-ender 
fringe. They're simply not capable of it.

- - With an increasingly fringe GOP, the more moderates who leave the GOP, the 
more conservative and extreme the GOP becomes, and the more the party will pick 
people like Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee in their primaries - people who can't 
win a general election. 

http://www.americablog.com/2009/07/cnn-palin-is-another-huckabee-party.html

= =

Sen. Voinovich (R-OH) : Southern Republicans are sinking GOP

Republicans have become more rural and less educated 


- - In an interview on Hardball, former Rep. Tom Davis (R-VA) followed up on 
recent comments made by Sen. George Voinovich (R-OH) about how the Republican 
party is losing its appeal. 

Said Davis: Politics has been defined by culture over the last few cycles, and 
we've become a rural party and a Southern party. We've been losing inner 
suburbs and the like. A lot of this was the policies of the Bush 
administration. 

Furthermore, as the GOP increased its focus on cultural issues, it also caused 
a widening education gap. 

Davis added: The high education areas Obama carried -- 78 of the 100 counties 
with the highest education. McCain carried 88 of the 100 counties with the 
lowest education. As we move to cultural politics, that's been the shift. 

Here's the clip: 
http://www.gawkk.com/voinovich-southern-republicans-sinking-the-gop/discuss 

= =

~~ The Incredible Shrinking GOP: Only 20 Percent Self-Identify As Republican ~~

= = Earlier this week a Washington Post poll made a big splash because it found 
that only 21 percent self-identify as Republicans. The abysmally low number got 
pundits and reporters talking about whether the GOP is shrinking to the point 
of irrelevance.

Now we have another poll that finds that the number of self-identified
Republicans has dropped even lower: 20 percent.

Here are the key numbers, buried in the internals of the new NBC/WSJ poll:

- Thirteen percent identify themselves as a strong Republican; seven percent 
as a not very strong Republican. Total: Twenty percent.

http://snipurl.com/ov48x [theplumline_whorunsgov_com]


[snip to end]








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt Health Care Town Halls

2009-08-06 Thread Mike Dixon
Not only stuff she has said, but is DNC propagated. All these town hall 
meetings are organized by the Insurance companies and the Republican party.  
They say this because this is how *community organizers* do it! THAT is your 
astro turf. They can not beleive the masses reject their ideas  and demand they 
stop. I have no doubt that people in the insurance industry and Republicans 
attend these meetings to see what the public sentiment is, but to say that they 
are orchistrating them is pure BS. They couldn't do that if they had months of 
planning. Have you been to any of them? They are every day people, republican, 
democrat and independant that are very concerned about the direction all of 
this is going and they don't like it. They see an over bloated  federal 
government amassing more and more power  over thier lives, that they will have 
to pay for with higher and higher taxes and the loss of their personal 
freedoms. They don't want their
 retirement pensions made worthless form inflation induced by the printing of 
money. They  threw Republicans out of power in 2006 because they spent our tax 
dollars like drunken sailors And they are seeing the same thing, on steroids, 
out of the current congress. Something very very uggly is brewing out there, 
fed by the arrogance of those in power and refusing to stop and listen to the 
people. There will be a blood bath (figuratively) in 2010 and the party in 
power is going to have a very rude awakening if they don't have a major 
attitude adjustmentsoon.

--- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt Health 
Care Town Halls
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 5:42 PM


  



--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:

 And you verify those sources for accuracy? Or do you just beleive her becuase 
 you like what she says?


I haven't seen anything she's reported to be innacurate. She's even gone after 
Obama on a number of issues. 

Maddow doesn't make stuff up like the loonies on the far right do. 

I gave a few examples of the bullshit reported by the loons on the right - 
Glenn Beck and his FEMA concentration camps - Michelle Bachmann and her claims 
of mandatory 're-education' camps for the young. 

Can you give examples of anything Maddow has reported that's similarly turned 
out to be such fabricated bullshit?

 --- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rf...@.. . wrote:
 
 
 From: do.rflex do.rf...@.. .
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
 Health Care Town Halls
 To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 5:23 PM
 
 
   
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
 
  I'm curious Reflux, how often do you bother to verify Maddow's *facts*and 
  to what extent ? You don't... do you? 
 
 
 Rachel provides the sources for those facts as she reports them - which you'd 
 have noticed if it really was important to you.
 
 
 As for loonies, they are out there. Remember Bush was *selected not 
 elected* Bush was AWOL, Bush was a cocaine addict, 911 was an inside job, it 
 was a missile, not a jet, that hit the Pentagon,  Blood for oil, Bush is 
 stealing Iraqi oil,Bush is getting ready to suspend the constitution and 
 declare marshal law, etc. You fell for all that crap, didn't you. I bet 
 Rachel Maddow did also.
 
 
 It isn't possible to reason with the remaining 20% dead-ender fringe. They're 
 simply not capable of it.
 
 ~~ The Incredible Shrinking GOP: Only 20 Percent Self-Identify As Republican 
 ~~
 
 = = Earlier this week a Washington Post poll made a big splash because it 
 found that only 21 percent self-identify as Republicans. The abysmally low 
 number got pundits and reporters talking about whether the GOP is shrinking 
 to the point of irrelevance.
 
 Now we have another poll that finds that the number of self-identified 
 Republicans has dropped even lower: 20 percent.
 
 Here are the key numbers, buried in the internals of the new NBC/WSJ poll:
 
 - Thirteen percent identify themselves as a strong Republican; seven 
 percent as a not very strong Republican. Total: Twenty percent.
 
 http://snipurl. com/ov48x [theplumline_ whorunsgov_ com] 
 
  --- On Thu, 8/6/09, do.rflex do.rflex@ . wrote:
  
  
  From: do.rflex do.rflex@ .
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow: Right Wing Mob Mentality to Disrupt 
  Health Care Town Halls
  To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
  Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:36 PM
  
  
    
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
  
   And Maddow is ...objective?
  
  The difference is that Maddow backs up her reports with verifiable facts. 
  The wingnuts simply make stuff up - like FEMA concentration camps for 
  Obama's political enemies and mandatory service for young people where 
  they'll be 

[FairfieldLife] Corporate Group Takes Credit For Organizing Town Hall Disruptions

2009-08-06 Thread do.rflex

Anti-Reform Group Takes Credit For Helping Gin Up Town Hall Rallies
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/anti-reform-group-takes-c\
redit-for-helping-gin-up-town-hall-rallies/
Conservatives for Patients' Rights, the operation that's running
a national campaign against a public health care option, is now publicly
taking credit for helping gin up the sometimes-rowdy outbursts targeting
House Dems at town hall meetings around the country, raising questions
about their spontaneity.
CPR is the group headed by controversial former hospitals exec Rick
Scott that's spending millions on ads attacking reform in all sorts
of lurid ways, a campaign that's  being handled
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/10/AR20090\
51002243.html?hpid=topnews  by the same P.R. mavens behind the Swift
Boat Vets.

In response to my questions, a spokesman for the group confirmed that it
has undertaken a concerted effort to get people out to the town hall
meetings to protest reform. The spokesperson, Brian Burgess, confirmed
that CPR is emailing out town hall alert flyers, and schedules
of town hall meetings, to its mailing list.

These efforts — combined with CPR's effort to enlist Tea
Party-ers, as  reported yesterday
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/inside-the-tea-partiers-anti\
-health-care-organizing-campaign.php  by TPM — provide a glimpse
into the ways anti-reform groups are trying to create a sense of public
momentum in their favor.

CPR spokesman Burgess confirmed that the group had set up a list serv
designed to reach out to third party groups involved in the
health care fight, including the Tea Party activists. And in a statement
emailed to me, Scott, who was  ousted
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/10/AR20090\
51002243.html?hpid=topnews  as a health-care exec amid a 1990s fraud
probe, took credit for the town hall showings.

We have invested a lot of time, energy and resources into educating
Americans over the past several months about the dangers of
government-run health care and I think we're seeing some of the
fruits of that campaign, Scott said, though he claimed outrage was
spontaneous.

Similarly, America's Health Insurance Plans, or AHIP, the insurance
industry group, has  stationed employees
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124891353497192109.html  in 30 states
to track local town hall events.

The question is whether these uprisings are actually helpful to the
anti-reform cause, or whether their raucus agitprop will work againt
them. Dems have  blasted out to reporters
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0809/The_danger_in_the_rights_an\
ger.html?showall  examples of protestors harrassing House Dems.

The more you dig the more you learn that this is a carefully
orchestrated effort by special interest lobbyists and the Republican
Party, who are using fringe elements on the right to protect insurance
company profits and defeat health care reform, said House Dem
leadership aide Doug Thornell. The anger at these events looks very
similar to what we saw at McCain/Palin rallies in the fall.

http://snipurl.com/owwh8  [theplumline_whorunsgov_com]










[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread WillyTex
shempmcgurk wrote:
 You sound like Hugo Chavez, John...

Why is it that the two expats, who don't
pay any U.S. income tax, don't vote, and
don't even live in the U.S.A., want to 
scream the loudest about American's health 
care? 

Why should ex-Americans think that any plan 
conceived in Washington D.C. will in any way 
improve the medical attention they get now 
from the welfare system in Spain or Brazil?





[FairfieldLife] Re: 60+ German Scientists dissent over global warming

2009-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/04/07/morano-climate-depot-joke/ is a
 commentary on your source.



...and how, pray tell, does your link counter what the German scientists say?  
There is NOTHING there to counter it...it doesn't even mention it.

And I ask again: why aren't you eagerly embracing claims that global warming is 
bogus?  Aren't you at all encouraged that the alarmism is wrong and millions 
aren't going to die?

Why are you so unhappy, Rick, at ANY news that counters the claims of 
catastrophy for mankind?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Keep Track of the Right Wing Lies Here

2009-08-06 Thread WillyTex
Bhairitu wrote:
 Keep Track of the Right Wing Lies Here

Don't you just hate those lying Right Wings?

It's simple - you're old - those individuals 
in poor health are more likely to apply for 
health insurance and more likely to need 
treatments requiring high insurance company 
payouts. 

Those individuals that are in good health 
will find that the cost of insurance way too 
high for the perceived benefit, and some will 
remove themselves from the risk pool. 

People should be free to opt out of any health 
care system. But, it is a fact that a government 
health care system would have to be compulsory. 

Young people who are in good health are going 
to start a riot if they are required to pay 
higher taxes for health care they don't need 
or want. 

Get ready for the revolution. It's as simple 
as that. This ain't going to be no 'Tea Party' 
with the young punks. You old guys will be 
eliminated.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Wants to Kill Your Grandmother

2009-08-06 Thread Vaj


On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:06 PM, WillyTex wrote:


Vaj wrote:
 Five Right-wing lies meant to scare the ignorant:

Don't you just hate those right-wing liars?


I guess it's not just Rush who's on Oxy.



How can the Obama administration remake one-sixth of
the economy if it can't even handle a used-car program?

A billion-dollar program that was supposed to last till
November, ran out of money in five days? This is just
outrageous!


It's been an amazing success. I mean such great news in one week: an  
overwhelming upsurge in new car sales to the point the program sells  
out and one of the Clintons rescuing some innocent journalists from an  
evil dictator. Can you imagine Condie trying something like that?  
She's probably still afraid to leave the country like Bush!


It's great also the majority of Americans support healthcare reform,  
but it's sad to find out the same old right-wing billionaires are  
getting normal Americans to try to disrupt our town hall political  
process through lies they're being indoctrinated in. I realize the  
republicans are getting, statistically, less educated as more  
reasonable people leave the Cult of Rush and Beck and O'Reilly. But  
since when do right-wingers wanna listen to advice from closet  
homosexual drug addicts, recovering alcoholics and men who stick  
vibrators up their butts and call fellow employees?

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: 60+ German Scientists dissent over global warming

2009-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:22 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 60+ German Scientists dissent over global
warming
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/04/07/morano-climate-depot-joke/ is
a
 commentary on your source.


...and how, pray tell, does your link counter what the German scientists
say? There is NOTHING there to counter it...it doesn't even mention it.

And I ask again: why aren't you eagerly embracing claims that global warming
is bogus? Aren't you at all encouraged that the alarmism is wrong and
millions aren't going to die?

Why are you so unhappy, Rick, at ANY news that counters the claims of
catastrophe for mankind?
Because as far as I can tell, from a layman's perspective, the evidence for
global warming/climate change is compelling, the vast majority of legitimate
climatologists concur that the threat is real and dire, and those with whom
you choose to align yourself are of the same mindset as those who denied
that cigarettes cause cancer or those who are currently fighting health care
reform. In other words, they don't give a damn what happens to people,
individually or collectively, short-term or long, as long as it doesn't
impact their bottom line. And they're always going to find a certain subset
of the population, in which you are included, who is susceptible to their
propaganda.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Wants to Kill Your Grandmother

2009-08-06 Thread WillyTex
  Don't you just hate those right-wing liars?
 
Vaj wrote:
 I guess it's not just Rush who's on Oxy...
 
So, under your health care plan, old people won't 
even be able to get an Oxy for their back pain. 
Ouch! Why are you so selfish and cruel? What are 
you trying to do - get rid of all the old people? 
Let them eat cake? Screw you - I want my MTV. 

You young punkers need to get some smarts - over 
my dead body are you going to kill my granny! 
Screw you and your cash for clunkers program and 
screw your mandatory public health care. You're 
not going to get into my bank account for no 
automatic deductions to pay for your boozing and 
smoking bad habits. 

Now I ask you, has a single dollar been given to 
any car dealer on the Cash for Clunkers program? 
No, and it will be many months before any car 
dealer gets any dollars from the federal government. 

Apparently lots of people who can't afford a new 
car are getting one now, so, I wonder how many 
of those car loans will be in default six months 
from now. How is that going to help the economy? 

But it's debatable if getting a new car than has 
better gas milage by 3 MPG will actually reduce 
any greenhouse gasses.  Somebody is going to have 
to pay for the clunkers, and their destruction, 
sooner or later - there's no free lunch, no matter 
how much you hate the Right Wing.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Wants to Kill Your Grandmother

2009-08-06 Thread Vaj


On Aug 6, 2009, at 5:49 PM, WillyTex wrote:


  Don't you just hate those right-wing liars?
 
Vaj wrote:
 I guess it's not just Rush who's on Oxy...

So, under your health care plan, old people won't
even be able to get an Oxy for their back pain.
Ouch! Why are you so selfish and cruel? What are
you trying to do - get rid of all the old people?
Let them eat cake? Screw you - I want my MTV.


Gee, I never said that. If your Grandma is a Republican living in TX,  
she can get all the Oxy she needs off her Mexican housekeeper's  
cousin. If she'd like to go the more expensive route, she could try  
her PCP.




You young punkers need to get some smarts - over
my dead body are you going to kill my granny!
Screw you and your cash for clunkers program and
screw your mandatory public health care. You're
not going to get into my bank account for no
automatic deductions to pay for your boozing and
smoking bad habits.


Don't worry, we won't kill Granny. She's probably already helping sap  
the Medicare funds dry like the other illegal aliens in Texas.




[FairfieldLife] For Shemp: Climate Change: Why It's Even Worse Than We Feared

2009-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
Hopefully to counterbalance some of the crap with which you choose to fill
your head:


CLIMATE-CHANGE CALCULUS
WHY IT'S EVEN WORSE THAN WE FEARED
By Sharon Begley 
Newsweek 
August 3rd Issue, 2009

http://www.newsweek.com/id/208164

Among the phrases you really, really do not want to hear from climate
scientists are: that really shocked us, we had no idea how bad it was,
and reality is well ahead of the climate models. Yet in speaking to
researchers who focus on the Arctic, you hear comments like these so
regularly they begin to sound like the thumping refrain from Jaws: annoying
harbingers of something that you really, really wish would go away.

Let me deconstruct the phrases above. The shock came when the
International Polar Year, a global consortium studying the Arctic, froze a
small vessel into the sea ice off eastern Siberia in September 2006.
Norwegian explorer Fridtjof Nansen had done the same thing a century before,
and his Fram, carried by the drifting ice, emerged off eastern Greenland 34
months later. IPY scientists thought their Tara would take 24 to 36 months.
But it reached Greenland in just 14 months, stark evidence that the sea ice
found a more open, ice-free, and thus faster path westward thanks to Arctic
melting.

The loss of Arctic sea ice is well ahead of what the Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change forecast, largely because emissions of carbon
dioxide have topped what the panel -- which foolishly expected nations to
care enough about global warming to do something about it -- projected. The
models just aren't keeping up with the reality of CO2 emissions, says the
IPY's David Carlson. Although policymakers hoped climate models would prove
to be alarmist, the opposite is true, particularly in the Arctic.

The IPCC may also have been too cautious on Greenland, assuming that the
melting of its glaciers would contribute little to sea-level rise. Some
studies found that Greenland's glacial streams were surging and surface ice
was morphing into liquid lakes, but others made a strong case that those
surges and melts were aberrations, not long-term trends. It seemed to be a
standoff. More reliable data, however, such as satellite measurements of
Greenland's mass, show that it is losing about 52 cubic miles per year and
that the melting is accelerating. So while the IPCC projected that sea level
would rise 16 inches this century, now a more likely figure is one meter
[39 inches] at the least, says Carlson. Chest high instead of knee high,
with half to two thirds of that due to Greenland. Hence the no idea how
bad it was.

The frozen north had another surprise in store. Scientists have long known
that permafrost, if it melted, would release carbon, exacerbating global
warming, which would melt more permafrost, which would add more to global
warming, on and on in a feedback loop. But estimates of how much carbon is
locked into Arctic permafrost were, it turns out, woefully off. It's about
three times as much as was thought, about 1.6 trillion metric tons, which
has surprised a lot of people, says Edward Schuur of the University of
Florida. It means the potential for positive feedbacks is greatly
increased. That 1.6 trillion tons is about twice the amount now in the
atmosphere. And Schuur's measurements of how quickly CO2 can come out of
permafrost, reported in May, were also a surprise: 1 billion to 2 billion
tons per year. Cars and light trucks in the U.S. emit about 300 million tons
per year.

In an insightful observation in The Guardian this month, Jim Watson of the
University of Sussex wrote that a new breed of climate sceptic is becoming
more common: someone who doubts not the science but the policy response.
Given the pathetic (non)action on global warming at the G8 summit, and the
fact that the energy/climate bill passed by the House of Representatives is
so full of holes and escape hatches that it has barely a prayer of averting
dangerous climate change, skepticism that the world will get its act
together seems appropriate. For instance, the G8, led by Europe, has vowed
to take steps to keep global warming below 2 degrees Celsius by reducing CO2
emissions. We're now at 0.8 degree. But the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere
is already enough to raise the mercury 2 degrees. The only reason it hasn't
is that the atmosphere is full of crap (dust and aerosols that contribute to
asthma, emphysema, and other diseases) that acts as a global coolant. As
that pollution is reduced for health reasons, we're going to blast right
through 2 degrees, which is enough to ex-acerbate droughts and storms, wreak
havoc on agriculture, and produce a planet warmer than it's been in millions
of years. The 2-degree promise is a mirage.

The test of whether the nations of the world care enough to act will come in
December, when 192 countries meet in Copenhagen to hammer out a climate
treaty. Carlson vows that IPY will finish its Arctic assessment in time for
the meeting, and one conclusion is 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Wants to Kill Your Grandmother

2009-08-06 Thread Mike Dixon
What I find amusing about it is the Car companies that needed the buisiness the 
most, Chrysler and GM, had virtually no inventory for people to buy from. So, 
they bought Fords and Toyotas. Well, at least most of the Toyota's were made in 
the US, by US workers.

--- On Thu, 8/6/09, WillyTex no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:


From: WillyTex no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Wants to Kill Your Grandmother
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 7:06 PM


  



Vaj wrote:
 Five Right-wing lies meant to scare the ignorant:
 
Don't you just hate those right-wing liars?

How can the Obama administration remake one-sixth of 
the economy if it can't even handle a used-car program? 

A billion-dollar program that was supposed to last till 
November, ran out of money in five days? This is just 
outrageous! 

No wonder more Americans are opposed to Cash for 
Clunkers and Federal Government Health Care Programs. 

Read more:

'Time for Plan B?' 
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post, August 4, 2009
http://tinyurl. com/m3gcz6

















  

[FairfieldLife] 'Republican Negative Nabbobs of Fascist Hatred!'

2009-08-06 Thread Robert
'Dear Pat Buchanan:Remember 1973, when you, Mr.Buchanan, didst dwell this 
sewer, you all made of Washington, D.C.Now Barack Obama, this brave soul, 
stands against the forces of 'No'...We, up here, in Madison, we call this: 
Negatation, which is the direct opposite of,Meditation...which brings people 
Peace, Shalom, Allah, Buddha, Krishna...Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan are dead, 
now, as you probably know...Their ghosts still haunt us Today...So, until your 
G-Damn evil doers, get off the toilet, 'We the People, now have a voice...
R.G.  Madison,WI


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Shemp: Climate Change: Why It's Even Worse Than We Feared

2009-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 Hopefully to counterbalance some of the crap with which you choose to fill
 your head:



Ask yourself, Rick, why you have chosen GOOD news to be crap and horrible, 
holocaustic news to be the truth.

Even if the good news had only an ounce of probability to it, why treat it as 
crap?  You should be hoping and praying that it's true and doing everything 
within your power to investigate whether there is value to it.

It is irrational to take the them and us attitude vis a vis global warming.  
YOu should be happy that so many people now demonstrate the non-viability of 
the alarmist view.





 
 
 CLIMATE-CHANGE CALCULUS
 WHY IT'S EVEN WORSE THAN WE FEARED
 By Sharon Begley 
 Newsweek 
 August 3rd Issue, 2009
 
 http://www.newsweek.com/id/208164
 
 Among the phrases you really, really do not want to hear from climate
 scientists are: that really shocked us, we had no idea how bad it was,
 and reality is well ahead of the climate models. Yet in speaking to
 researchers who focus on the Arctic, you hear comments like these so
 regularly they begin to sound like the thumping refrain from Jaws: annoying
 harbingers of something that you really, really wish would go away.
 
 Let me deconstruct the phrases above. The shock came when the
 International Polar Year, a global consortium studying the Arctic, froze a
 small vessel into the sea ice off eastern Siberia in September 2006.
 Norwegian explorer Fridtjof Nansen had done the same thing a century before,
 and his Fram, carried by the drifting ice, emerged off eastern Greenland 34
 months later. IPY scientists thought their Tara would take 24 to 36 months.
 But it reached Greenland in just 14 months, stark evidence that the sea ice
 found a more open, ice-free, and thus faster path westward thanks to Arctic
 melting.
 
 The loss of Arctic sea ice is well ahead of what the Intergovernmental
 Panel on Climate Change forecast, largely because emissions of carbon
 dioxide have topped what the panel -- which foolishly expected nations to
 care enough about global warming to do something about it -- projected. The
 models just aren't keeping up with the reality of CO2 emissions, says the
 IPY's David Carlson. Although policymakers hoped climate models would prove
 to be alarmist, the opposite is true, particularly in the Arctic.
 
 The IPCC may also have been too cautious on Greenland, assuming that the
 melting of its glaciers would contribute little to sea-level rise. Some
 studies found that Greenland's glacial streams were surging and surface ice
 was morphing into liquid lakes, but others made a strong case that those
 surges and melts were aberrations, not long-term trends. It seemed to be a
 standoff. More reliable data, however, such as satellite measurements of
 Greenland's mass, show that it is losing about 52 cubic miles per year and
 that the melting is accelerating. So while the IPCC projected that sea level
 would rise 16 inches this century, now a more likely figure is one meter
 [39 inches] at the least, says Carlson. Chest high instead of knee high,
 with half to two thirds of that due to Greenland. Hence the no idea how
 bad it was.
 
 The frozen north had another surprise in store. Scientists have long known
 that permafrost, if it melted, would release carbon, exacerbating global
 warming, which would melt more permafrost, which would add more to global
 warming, on and on in a feedback loop. But estimates of how much carbon is
 locked into Arctic permafrost were, it turns out, woefully off. It's about
 three times as much as was thought, about 1.6 trillion metric tons, which
 has surprised a lot of people, says Edward Schuur of the University of
 Florida. It means the potential for positive feedbacks is greatly
 increased. That 1.6 trillion tons is about twice the amount now in the
 atmosphere. And Schuur's measurements of how quickly CO2 can come out of
 permafrost, reported in May, were also a surprise: 1 billion to 2 billion
 tons per year. Cars and light trucks in the U.S. emit about 300 million tons
 per year.
 
 In an insightful observation in The Guardian this month, Jim Watson of the
 University of Sussex wrote that a new breed of climate sceptic is becoming
 more common: someone who doubts not the science but the policy response.
 Given the pathetic (non)action on global warming at the G8 summit, and the
 fact that the energy/climate bill passed by the House of Representatives is
 so full of holes and escape hatches that it has barely a prayer of averting
 dangerous climate change, skepticism that the world will get its act
 together seems appropriate. For instance, the G8, led by Europe, has vowed
 to take steps to keep global warming below 2 degrees Celsius by reducing CO2
 emissions. We're now at 0.8 degree. But the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere
 is already enough to raise the mercury 2 degrees. The only reason it hasn't
 is that the atmosphere is full 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 60+ German Scientists dissent over global warming

2009-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
 Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:22 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 60+ German Scientists dissent over global
 warming
  
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/04/07/morano-climate-depot-joke/ is
 a
  commentary on your source.
 
 
 ...and how, pray tell, does your link counter what the German scientists
 say? There is NOTHING there to counter it...it doesn't even mention it.
 
 And I ask again: why aren't you eagerly embracing claims that global warming
 is bogus? Aren't you at all encouraged that the alarmism is wrong and
 millions aren't going to die?
 
 Why are you so unhappy, Rick, at ANY news that counters the claims of
 catastrophe for mankind?
 Because as far as I can tell, from a layman's perspective,




This is only too true...







 the evidence for
 global warming/climate change is compelling, the vast majority of legitimate
 climatologists




Why do you keep repeating this?  Just cause you repeat the same line over and 
over doesn't make it true.

Where is this vast majority?  Evidence, please.




 concur that the threat is real and dire, and those with whom
 you choose to align yourself are of the same mindset as those who denied
 that cigarettes cause cancer or those who are currently fighting health care
 reform.



Actually, it's the other way around.  Those that claimed that cigarettes caused 
cancer relied on actual cause and effect research; your alarmists don't.






 In other words, they don't give a damn what happens to people,
 individually or collectively, short-term or long, as long as it doesn't
 impact their bottom line.





Oh, you mean like Al Gore whose $100 million fortune is directly tied to global 
warming alarmism continuing to be accepted?

Or the scientists that get grants (about $75 billion so far from the federal 
government) that get this windfall as long as global warming alarmism continues?







 And they're always going to find a certain subset
 of the population, in which you are included, who is susceptible to their
 propaganda.



Which side, really, is known for propaganda and which side is known for 
thinking for themselves?



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republican Negative Nabbobs of Fascist Hatred!'

2009-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
You are aware, aren't you, Robert, that Pat Buchanan was AGAINST the war in 
Iraq right from the beginning?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote:

 'Dear Pat Buchanan:Remember 1973, when you, Mr.Buchanan, didst dwell this 
 sewer, you all made of Washington, D.C.Now Barack Obama, this brave soul, 
 stands against the forces of 'No'...We, up here, in Madison, we call this: 
 Negatation, which is the direct opposite of,Meditation...which brings people 
 Peace, Shalom, Allah, Buddha, Krishna...Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan are 
 dead, now, as you probably know...Their ghosts still haunt us Today...So, 
 until your G-Damn evil doers, get off the toilet, 'We the People, now have a 
 voice...
 R.G.  Madison,WI





[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle; Windmill Hill, Nr Avebury Trusloe, Wiltshire. 6th August.

2009-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
Why do I visually see lines/grooves in the grass/wheat (or whatever it is) 
within the impressions?  Is this not how someone -- a human -- would 
artificially make a crop circle (i.e., stick in ground attached to a rope 
attached to a human walking with an implement to flatten said grass/wheat)?

Why would an alien make lines/grooves like a human would?  Did the aliens get 
down and walk in circles, too?

These are obviously man-made...and quite beautiful!  But man-made.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 
 
 
 Image Russell Stannard Copyright 2009
 
   http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer09c.html
 
 CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST CROP CIRCLE CONNECTOR DVD
 http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer09c.html
 
   http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/
 Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you
 
 
 
 REQUEST
 
 We would be grateful to any one that attended our second event at Alton
 Barnes who took photo's of the 'Response Collective' music group during
 their performance to our Crop Circle 2009 video show could you send us
 full resolution .jpeg copies of your photo's (also any other photo's of
 that night that you might feel would be of interest) to 
 mjfuss...@... mailto:mjfuss...@... 
 
 
 
 Images Philippe Ullens  Copyright 2009
 
   http://www.hengeshop.com/acatalog/Crop_Circles.html
 
 
 
 Image Patrice Marty www.savoirperdu.com http://www.savoirperdu.com/ 
 Copyright 2009
 
   http://www.chetsnow.com/signs.html
 
 
 
 Image Russell Stannard Copyright 2009





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republican Negative Nabbobs of Fascist Hatred!'

2009-08-06 Thread sgrayatlarge
Yes indeed you are great at streaming fascist hatred

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote:

 'Dear Pat Buchanan:Remember 1973, when you, Mr.Buchanan, didst dwell this 
 sewer, you all made of Washington, D.C.Now Barack Obama, this brave soul, 
 stands against the forces of 'No'...We, up here, in Madison, we call this: 
 Negatation, which is the direct opposite of,Meditation...which brings people 
 Peace, Shalom, Allah, Buddha, Krishna...Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan are 
 dead, now, as you probably know...Their ghosts still haunt us Today...So, 
 until your G-Damn evil doers, get off the toilet, 'We the People, now have a 
 voice...
 R.G.  Madison,WI





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2009-08-06 Thread FFL PostCount
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[FairfieldLife] Fwd: A few more reasons why I voted No

2009-08-06 Thread WLeed3


 
  

 From: or...@hatchforsenate.com
Reply-to:  r.1.91.189533.2b520ef183381bb6-wleed3=aol@hatchforsenate.com
To:  wle...@aol.com
Sent: 8/6/2009 6:21:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: A  few more reasons why I voted No


 
(http://hatch.rootshq.com/administrator/components/com_civicrm/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=139qid=189533)
   
William -- 
This morning, before the confirmation vote on Judge Sotomayor, I  addressed 
a few more reasons why I voted No on her nomination. 
Short version of my speech: Judge Sotomayor's record simply creates  too 
many conflicts with principles about the judiciary in which I deeply  believe. 
I hope that on the Supreme Court, Judge Sotomayor will take an  objective, 
modest, and restrained approach to interpreting and applying  written law. I 
hope that she actively defends her impartiality against  subjective 
influences such as personal sympathies and prejudices. And I  hope that she 
sees 
the Constitution, both its words and its meaning, as  something that she must 
follow rather than something she can change. 
Because the record does not convince me that Judge Sotomayor holds  those 
views today, I could not her support appointment to the Supreme  Court. 
My full speech on the Senate floor is pasted below. I'd appreciate it  if 
you would share your thoughts by replying to this email. 
Sincerely,

Senator Orrin Hatch 
P.S. Take a moment to read my comments and see how times have changed  
since the Democrats unfairly filibustered Miguel Estrada. Senators and  
grassroots groups, including Hispanic organizations, who today say that  a good 
resume, rich life story, and ethnic heritage make a compelling  confirmation 
case opposed even holding a vote for Mr. Estrada.  

  
Statement of Sen. Orrin G. Hatch
Before the  United States Senate
Regarding the nomination of Sonia Sotomayor to  be Associate Justice of the 
Supreme Court
August 6, 2009 
On Tuesday, I explained some of the reasons why I cannot support the  
nomination of Judge Sonia Sotomayor to replace Justice David Souter and  I will 
mention a few others today. Her record simply creates too many  conflicts 
with principles about the judiciary in which I deeply believe.  I wish 
President Obama had chosen a Hispanic nominee whom all Senators  could support. 
During the debate this week, many of my Democratic friends have spent  time 
reading Judge Sotomayor's resume rather than reviewing her record.  Nearly 
every speaker on the other side, for example, has repeated the  talking 
point that she has more federal judicial experience than any  Supreme Court no
minee in a century. I know that she does, and I respect  her for it. But 
Justice Samuel Alito had only one less year of federal  judicial experience, 
and 
actually had five more years on the U.S. Court  of Appeals, when he was 
nominated. He too had been a prosecutor, and he  too had received a unanimous 
well-qualified rating from the ABA. Yet 19  current Democratic Senators voted 
to filibuster his nomination, and 35  voted against confirmation. 
Other Senators emphasize the importance of appointing someone with  Judge 
Sotomayor's inspiring life story and ethnic heritage. Once again,  I do not 
disagree. Yet she is being treated with far more dignity and  respect than 
was Miguel Estrada, a highly qualified Hispanic nominee  with an inspiring 
life story. The Senate, for example, will today  actually vote on Judge 
Sotomayor's nomination. In 2003, for the first  time in American history, this 
body 
was prevented from voting at all on  the Estrada nomination, even though he 
had majority support. Senators  and grassroots groups, including Hispanic 
organizations, who today say  that a good resume, rich life story, and ethnic 
heritage make a  compelling confirmation case for Judge Sotomayor opposed 
even holding an  up-or-down vote for Mr. Estrada. The treatment of Miguel 
Estrada was  unfair and disgraceful toward the nominee and damaging to the 
traditions  and practice of this body. 
My Democratic colleagues want people to believe that the concerns  about 
the Sotomayor nomination are limited to one speech and one case.  Some of them 
have said as much. At the same time, they say that our  review should be 
limited to only certain parts of the nominee's record.  As I have done with 
past nominees, however, I examined Judge Sotomayor's  entire record for 
insight into her judicial philosophy. In addition to  the controversial 
speeches 
that I discussed on Tuesday, Judge Sotomayor  gave a speech at Suffolk 
University Law School which was later published  in that school's law review. 
She 
embraced the idea that the law is  indefinite, impermanent, and 
experimental. She rejected what she called  the public myth that law can be 
certain and 
stable. She said that  judges may, in their decisions, develop novel 
approaches and legal  frameworks that push the law in new directions. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White House

2009-08-06 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
 Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:54 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama wants FFLer's to report me to the White
 House
  
 You sound like Hugo Chavez, John, when people protest to him that he is
 stifling freedom of the press and the right to dissent when Chavez closes
 down virtually all the media outlets that oppose him: Oh, no, we're not
 stifling dissent we're merely closing down media that are operating outside
 the law.
 
 You also sound like supporters of Joe McCarthy.
 
 The White House has no place asking for people to rat on other citizens by
 sending the words of dissenting voices to the government.
  
 Who's talking about closing down the media? It's statements like that that
 characterize the right wing as raving lunatics who deserve to be as
 marginalized as they have become. They just want to be kept abreast of all
 the bullshit that goes around so they can counter it with the truth.

 Some would say that it must be a typo- you have truth and BS reversed.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Wants to Kill Your Grandmother

2009-08-06 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote:

 Vaj wrote:
  Five Right-wing lies meant to scare the ignorant:
  
 Don't you just hate those right-wing liars?
 
 How can the Obama administration remake one-sixth of 
 the economy if it can't even handle a used-car program? 
 
 A billion-dollar program that was supposed to last till 
 November, ran out of money in five days? This is just 
 outrageous! 
 
 No wonder more  Americans are opposed to Cash for 
 Clunkers and Federal Government Health Care Programs. 
 
  Did you see where the post office is in trouble to the point where  they are 
looking at closing some of the local ones?
   With considerable expierience, the PO doesn't have a great record
 and now they are in cars?   (The Buick stops here?)



[FairfieldLife] anyone interested in throwing rocks in the lake and talking spiritual esoteric

2009-08-06 Thread mirza
Bullshit around sunset? Could be a new group.



[FairfieldLife] Re: anyone interested in throwing rocks in the lake and talking spiritual esoteric

2009-08-06 Thread mirza
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mirza mirzamayl...@... wrote:

 Bullshit around sunset? Could be a new group.

Spiritual and esoteric, I meant to say.as in contemplating the  
spiritual,esoteric or just whatever bullshit feels like it wants to be said. 



[FairfieldLife] Reduce CO2? Treason against the biosphere!

2009-08-06 Thread shempmcgurk
Humans and Their CO2 Save the Planet!

Posted By Frank J. Tipler On August 5, 2009 @ 6:59 am In . Column2 07, . 
Positioning, Legal, Science, Science  Technology, US News | 89 Comments

As the Senate considers the fate of the cap-and-trade bill, we should consider 
what it means for more carbon dioxide to be added to the atmosphere, something 
the bill intends to prevent.

Carbon dioxide is first and foremost a plant food. In fact, plants take carbon 
dioxide from the atmosphere and use the energy from sunlight to combine the CO2 
with water to yield glucose, the simplest sugar molecule. Carbon dioxide is 
also the source of all organic — this word just means contains carbon — 
molecules synthesized by plants. Without carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, 
there would be no organic molecules synthesized by plants. The less carbon 
dioxide there is in the atmosphere, the fewer organic molecules synthesized by 
plants. All animals depend on plants to synthesize essential organic molecules. 
Without the organic molecules synthesized by plants, the animal world could not 
exist. Without plants, there would be no biosphere.

Several million years ago, a disaster struck the terrestrial biosphere: there 
was a drastic reduction in the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere.

The flowering plants evolved to be most efficient when the percentage of CO2 in 
the atmosphere was about 1,000 parts per million. But the percentage had 
dropped to a mere 200 parts per million. Plants tried to adapt by evolving a 
new, more efficient way of using the little remaining CO2. The new mechanism, 
the C4 pathway, appeared in grasses, including corn and wheat, which enabled 
these plants to expand into the plains. If the carbon dioxide percentage had 
stayed low — or worse, had decreased further — the entire biosphere would have 
been endangered.

Fortunately for the plants and the rest of the biosphere depending on them, a 
wonderful thing happened about 150,000 years ago: a new animal species, Homo 
sapiens, evolved. This creature was endowed with a huge brain, enabling it to 
invent a way to help the plants with their CO2 problem. Gigantic amounts of 
carbon had been deposited deep underground in the form of coal, oil, and 
natural gas. Not only were these reservoirs of carbon locked away in rock, but 
they were in forms of carbon that the plants could not use.

These wonderful humans, however, worked hard to help the plants. Not only did 
the humans dig the coal, oil, and natural gas, bringing it to the surface, but 
they converted these raw materials into the only form of carbon that plants 
could use: carbon dioxide. Due to the diligent plant-saving efforts of the 
humans, the CO2 atmospheric percentage is now at nearly 390 parts per million. 
Were humans to continue in their biosphere-rescuing efforts at the present 
rate, the CO2 level will be returned to normal in a mere few hundred years.

The cap-and-trade bill is designed to stop this effort to save the biosphere. 
This is a profoundly evil act. In the words of the Nobel Prize winning 
economist Paul Krugman, anyone who supports the bill, or any measure aimed at 
reducing the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, is guilty of 
treason against the planet!

Those who want to reduce the use of fossil fuels are the mortal enemies of the 
biosphere. They must be stopped at all costs! Write your senator at once!

The astute reader will have noted that Krugman actually accused those who 
opposed the cap-and-trade bill of treason against the planet. What I have 
done is use well-known science to show that, from the biosphere's point of 
view, it is the cap-and-trade bill that is treasonable. Remarkably, Krugman 
assumes that the climatic conditions of a mere century or so ago are the 
natural ones that must not be changed. A very anthropomorphic point of view 
is being used to denounce humanity. An ultraconservative reactionary political 
position is being called progressive.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/humans-and-their-co2-save-the-planet/?print=1




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[FairfieldLife] How people spend their time

2009-08-06 Thread bob_brigante

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/07/31/business/20080801-metrics-\
graphic.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/07/31/business/20080801-metrics\
-graphic.html