Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment - 617.95. engine - crazy idea?

[Marshall Booth]

OK Don wrote:

Reduced cam follower wear? Only reason I can think of --



It's been reported (rather frequently) that the use of Mobil synthetics
will reduce the need for valve adjustment (but I don't know why that
might be). I KNOW it reduces timing chain wear (I've measured that) by
about half and I understand why, but I can't figure out why it would
reduce the need to adjust valves.

Marshall


As intake valves wear they get tighter - can't be cam follower wear any 
way I can imagine!


Marshall
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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] G Class to continue

[Alex Chamberlain]

Lots of cheap early-'80s G-wagens on ebay.de.  If >=25 years old, they
no longer need to pass EPA and NHTSA to be imported.  Flights to
Europe are cheap---go over there, find a good one, ship it back---it'd
still be cheaper, all told, than a used one that's already here, let
alone a new one.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

On 11/12/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good news!
>
> Now all I need is a second income to afford one.
>
> Tim
> 1982 300TD Moby
>
> On 11/12/05, George Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mercedes To Continue Producing G-Class
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Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment - 617.95. engine - crazy idea?

[Peter Frederick]

Three things, really, I would guess -- reduced wear on cam follower and 
adjuster nut (also reduced wear on the cam lobe, but that won't affect 
clearance), reduced wear on guides (and hence better seating and 
reduced wear on seat), and less ash in the combustion chamber since 
there is less consumption and less zinc stearate in the oil (I think, 
not sure on the last one).


I've not run Mobil 1 in a 61x engine long enough to need to do a valve 
adjust yet (will be checking my brother's 300D this weekend or next), 
but on the Volvo, only a couple valves were out of spec after 50,000 
miles.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment - 617.95. engine - crazy idea?

[OK Don]

Reduced cam follower wear? Only reason I can think of --


> It's been reported (rather frequently) that the use of Mobil synthetics
> will reduce the need for valve adjustment (but I don't know why that
> might be). I KNOW it reduces timing chain wear (I've measured that) by
> about half and I understand why, but I can't figure out why it would
> reduce the need to adjust valves.
>
> Marshall

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Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment - 617.95. engine - crazy idea?

[Marshall Booth]

Hans Neureiter wrote:

Since the valve adjustment job is fairly easy but a PITA, why not adust the
valves a bit looser than specs, i.e. .005"/.015" instead of .003"/.013".
This would throw the timing off a hair, open a little later and close a bit
sooner. But will it be significant enough to notice?
The benefit being longer intervalls between needed adjustments since they
always tend to tighten up.


A well maintained engine lubricated with good oil that's changed as 
required, will not need adjustment very often, but they still need to be 
checked before each cold season to insure flawless cold starting. The 
process is far from linear and often changes quite suddenly! Once you 
have become "one with your car," you may be able to tell that the valves 
need adjustment from the sound, but I was never able to count on that 
even after 20+ years of trying. Increasing valve clearance will make 
them noisier, increase wear (at least a little) and the engine won't run 
as well. Tight valves quiets the engine, but results in slow/no cold 
starting, poor running when cold and excessive valve wear/damage.


Valves can tighten (usually intakes) with wear (and that prevents cold 
starting) and they can also loosen (usually exhausts) and that makes the 
engine noisier, but neither of those results are exclusive - so they 
really must be checked every 15kmi or so and adjusted if they are out of 
specification.


It's been reported (rather frequently) that the use of Mobil synthetics 
will reduce the need for valve adjustment (but I don't know why that 
might be). I KNOW it reduces timing chain wear (I've measured that) by 
about half and I understand why, but I can't figure out why it would 
reduce the need to adjust valves.


Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] G Class to continue

[TimothyPilgrim]

Good news!

Now all I need is a second income to afford one.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/12/05, George Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mercedes To Continue Producing G-Class

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[TimothyPilgrim]

Let me guess, a 190D that Tan was bidding on and lost by $100?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/12/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no, the good deals dont last long.  Y'all dont even want to know about
> the steal deal I just brought home.

Re: [MBZ] For G-Wagon Lovers

[TimothyPilgrim]

They've got the snorkles, but there's also a big rectangular box on
the passenger fender. I have no clue what it might be.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/12/05, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Snorkle intake for when you drive across rivers?  The Hummers in my
> neighborhood have them, but when they would have been needed in the
> hurricane all their owners took off,. wimps.
>
> --R
>
> TimothyPilgrim wrote:
>
> >I was wondering that myself.
> >
> >Tim
> >1982 300TD Moby
> >
> >On 11/11/05, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>What's the square box thing above the passenger (right) front wheel?
> >>
> >>-Dave Walton
> >>
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[MBZ] G Class to continue

[George Gregory]

Mercedes To Continue Producing G-Class
Posted on November 11, 2005 at 8:52 AM CST


 Despite earlier rumors that Mercedes may be replacing the legendary G-Wagon
with the upcoming GL-Class, DaimlerChrysler has officially announced today
that they will continue producing the G-Class in coming years.

 The legendary G-Wagon has remained virtually unchanged in it's design since
1979, except for various safety and technology upgrades.  According to
Dieter Zetsche, head of the Mercedes Car Group, "Mercedes-Benz wrote
automotive history by always ensuring that the G-Class remained state
of-the-art over the past 26 years, and it will continue to offer its
customers the very latest technology in the future.²

 Production for the G-Class will remain at the Magna Steyr Plant in Graz,
Austria, where over 185,000 have been produced throughout the years.

 Although the G will remain with Magna Steyr, DaimlerChrysler has also
announced today they will be moving E-Class production (which has been with
Magna Steyr since 1996) to the DaimlerChrysler plant in Sindelfingen from
early 2007.

 For more info on the G-Class and E-Class production, you can check out the
full press release below.


OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE


Mercedes-Benz G-Class: Legendary Off-Roader Will Remain Part Of The Mercedes
Product Lineup

Stuttgart/Graz, Nov 11, 2005

DaimlerChrysler will continue to produce its ³classic off-roader² in the
coming years. On behalf of Mercedes-Benz, the company Magna Steyr has
manufactured over 185,000 units of the legendary G-Class in Graz, Austria,
since 1979. The car continues to be very popular among customers, and it has
been part of the Mercedes product lineup for the past 26 years.

 The Mercedes-Benz E-Class 4MATIC, which Magna Steyr in Graz has also been
building since 1996, will be manufactured instead at the DaimlerChrysler
plant in Sindelfingen from early 2007. ³By continuing to produce the G-Class
in Graz and manufacturing all E-Class variants at our main plant in
Sindelfingen from 2007, we have found a viable solution for both partner,²
explains Dr. Dieter Zetsche, DaimlerChrysler Board of Management member and
head of the Mercedes Car Group. ³We are delighted that we can continue our
successful and long-standing cooperation with Magna Steyr.²

With its rugged technology and outstanding off-road capabilities, the
G-Class has set standards from the very start. And it is equipped with the
industry¹s most effective drive and driving safety systems, combining
permanent all-wheel drive with the 4ETS electronic traction system and three
differential locks that are activated when needed.

The vehicle¹s striking shape, which has remained nearly unchanged over a
period of almost three decades, has made the ³G² a design classic with cult
status. Together with its legendary ruggedness, the off-roader¹s design has
contributed most to its popularity. ³Mercedes-Benz wrote automotive history
by always ensuring that the G-Class remained state of-the-art over the past
26 years, and it will continue to offer its customers the very latest
technology in the future,² says Zetsche.


 Copyright © 2005, DaimlerChrysler AG

Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D, its runs grate

[Tan Qu]

Sorry about that. I lost bid on that one, only by less
than $100. Whoever won it got a good deal. 

Tan

--- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> if you give me the vin, and no, Im not going to the
> auction, Im too lazy
> 
> Tan Qu wrote:
> 
> > Kaleb,
> > 
> > Can you pull the Carfax record on this "runs
> grate"
> > 190D? It is only 20 miles from me. Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > Tan
> > 
> > --- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/190D-Mercedes-Benz-1988_W0QQitemZ4586768380QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > 
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> >>  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81
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Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Tan Qu]

The W201 diesels in good conditions are hard to find
come by. I just lost on bidding one (1988 190D)
located only 20 miles from me. That was almost one
owner car (seller's grandpa bought new in 1988). I am
looking for one to replace my unfortunate '82 240D
that people here seem to like to run into it but
haven't had much luck getting one yet!


Tan

--- Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jeepers folks, that's a gen-yoo-wine rare find, and
> a killer price as
> well!  Hope someone near there nabs it up, and
> quick.  I wouldn't
> think twice about picking that thing up, and right
> now--seriously.
> 
> 
> Casey
> Olympia, WA
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> '87 300TD intercooler (210k)
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Re: [MBZ] For G-Wagon Lovers

[Rich Thomas]

Snorkle intake for when you drive across rivers?  The Hummers in my 
neighborhood have them, but when they would have been needed in the 
hurricane all their owners took off,. wimps.


--R

TimothyPilgrim wrote:


I was wondering that myself.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/11/05, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


What's the square box thing above the passenger (right) front wheel?

-Dave Walton
   



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Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no, the good deals dont last long.  Y'all dont even want to know about 
the steal deal I just brought home.


Ron Dwelle wrote:

Yes, I called the guy as soon as the note from Rick appeared on the 
list. The seller had listed the car Thursday, and when I called him on 
Friday, he already had a deposit on the car. The buyer was supposed to 
show up 8 am Saturday morning with the cash. I asked the buyer to let 
me know. He e-mailed this morning--the guy showed up and paid for the 
car.


So, such deals don't last long!!!

Ron Dwelle

On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

I hope the list maintains some collective memory for this, since it's
a classic example of one of those "legendary" killer deals that pops
up from time to time.  I would've never believed an '87 190D 2.5 turbo
in decent shape could be found for just $1200. damn damn damn

On 11/11/05, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/110597913.html

No affiliation, ect.
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD



Casey


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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] att Bio Fans

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

you should post that to the biodiesel list.

George Gregory wrote:


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10003067/

 


http://www.dailysentinel.com/news/content/gen/ap/TX_Willie_Nelson_Biodiesel.
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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Cupholder for E320

[TimothyPilgrim]

I find that even talking to a passenger in a heavy traffic situation
can be dangerous. That's why I normally ignore whoever is sitting next
to me...

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/12/05, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yup.  It's the mental distraction, not the physical, that matters.
>
> On 11/12/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Which have been shown to be just as dangerous as handheld ones...
> >
> > On 11/11/05, James Jetton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Yes, they did put phones in.  With hands free capability.
> > >
>
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> '87 300D Turbo
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Re: [MBZ] Cupholder for E320

[Alex Chamberlain]

Yup.  It's the mental distraction, not the physical, that matters.

On 11/12/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which have been shown to be just as dangerous as handheld ones...
>
> On 11/11/05, James Jetton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes, they did put phones in.  With hands free capability.
> >

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] For G-Wagon Lovers

[TimothyPilgrim]

I was wondering that myself.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/11/05, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's the square box thing above the passenger (right) front wheel?
>
> -Dave Walton

Re: [MBZ] For G-Wagon Lovers

[TimothyPilgrim]

I hear that.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/11/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> wow, those things look cool when set up like that (narrow tires, roof rack),
> it's a shame to see them sitting on 25" chrome rims in compton.

Re: [MBZ] Cupholder for E320

[TimothyPilgrim]

Which have been shown to be just as dangerous as handheld ones...

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/11/05, James Jetton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, they did put phones in.  With hands free capability.
>
>
> James Jetton
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1987 560 SEL
> 1982 300D Turbo

[MBZ] Cup holders and phones

[wilton strickland]

Color-coordinated, folding drink holders ($39.95) in my 91 350SDL break
easily wilth passengers' careless knee bumps.
'Stiil using phone installed in 91 350SDL in '91; Motorola Microtac in the
87 300D.  Both have hands free features, but we pull over/stop to use them,
or let pass. do calling.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment - 617.95. engine - crazy idea?

[Peter Frederick]

Hans:

If you use good oil (synthetic is best) you will find that you don't 
need to do much adjustment.  Set to specs, the difference in 
performance can be noticeable.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] OK Don's phat new ride

[OK Don]

Thanks! Just to be sure, the modulator with the adjustment is the part
on the side of the tranny, not the source of vacuum on the back of the
IP?

On 11/12/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you got it right.
>
> Hans Neureiter wrote:
>
> > There is a rubber cap on the modulator (3/4" dia.). Underneath is a T-handle
> > resting in detents. Pull it out and turn it. Left is softer, right is harder
> > (unless Kaleb says otherwise).
> >
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'90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

[MBZ] Valve adjustment - 617.95. engine - crazy idea?

[Hans Neureiter]

Since the valve adjustment job is fairly easy but a PITA, why not adust the
valves a bit looser than specs, i.e. .005"/.015" instead of .003"/.013".
This would throw the timing off a hair, open a little later and close a bit
sooner. But will it be significant enough to notice?
The benefit being longer intervalls between needed adjustments since they
always tend to tighten up.

--
Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Ron Dwelle]

Yes, I called the guy as soon as the note from Rick appeared on the 
list. The seller had listed the car Thursday, and when I called him on 
Friday, he already had a deposit on the car. The buyer was supposed to 
show up 8 am Saturday morning with the cash. I asked the buyer to let 
me know. He e-mailed this morning--the guy showed up and paid for the 
car.


So, such deals don't last long!!!

Ron Dwelle

On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

I hope the list maintains some collective memory for this, since it's
a classic example of one of those "legendary" killer deals that pops
up from time to time.  I would've never believed an '87 190D 2.5 turbo
in decent shape could be found for just $1200. damn damn damn

On 11/11/05, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/110597913.html

No affiliation, ect.
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD


Casey

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Zeitgeist]

I hope the list maintains some collective memory for this, since it's
a classic example of one of those "legendary" killer deals that pops
up from time to time.  I would've never believed an '87 190D 2.5 turbo
in decent shape could be found for just $1200. damn damn damn

On 11/11/05, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/110597913.html
>
> No affiliation, ect.
> Rick Knoble
> 1985 300 CD

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (210k)
'84 300D (205k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

Re: [MBZ] OT: For the Jeep freaks, interesting Grand Wagoneer

[Alan Duff]

I have a '85 Grand Wagoneer that I've owned for a couple of years. The 
problem areas are:

The oil pumps are a known wear out item and are housed in the aluminum 
timing cover. Wear results in low oil pressure and the fix usually 
requires both to be replaced. Mine went from 15 psi to 60 psi at highway 
speeds after replacement. Cost of parts is around $450. Probably a one day 
job if no bolts break off.

The carbs are Motorcraft and work ok at highway and offroad. The need to 
be rebuilt every couple of years and usually require adjustment in the 
spring and fall to run correctly. Good fix is a Holly Avenger carb at 
about $400 plus a new intake at $200. A better fix is fuel injection at 
$2,000.

The engines tend to overheat due to a marginal cooling system. Best fix is 
a Flowkooler water pump at around $200 and a four core aluminum radiator 
at $400. Expect the bolts to be frozen in the block and require much time 
and assorted breakage to get them out.

The clunk is likely a u-joint. These things have several of them in the 
drivetrain and require frequent greasing. Some in the front are almost 
impossible to get to and tend to get skipped.

The sending unit in the fuel tank tends to go out and leave the gauge 
reading at full so you don't know how much gas you have. This is not a 
real problem as you need to stop at every third gas station anyway. I get 
about 8 mpg with mine which has the 360 V-8, the six bangers get a little 
better mileage.

The rear springs tend to sag on the drivers side where the gas tank is. 
Stock complete replacement springs are around $400 and ones with a four 
inch lift around $600, plus shipping and those things are heavy. You will 
need a torch, Sawsall, BIG hammer and lots of time to get the bolts 
holding the springs out. They will have rusted in the metal lining of the 
bushing. The one holding the front of the rear spring on the drivers side 
goes through a hole in the frame to a nut clipped on the backside. This 
will break and require removal of the skid plate and gas tank to replace. 
This probably needs to be done anyway as the skid plate tends to trap mud 
and rust out so it will need replaced. If there is any rust on the frame 
you don't want it.

The good points are the things will go anywhere offroad while hauling 
serveral adults and lots of gear. 

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Marshall Booth]

Rick Knoble wrote:

http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/110597913.html


There were 3 190Ds brought officially to the US.

There was the 201.122 190D 2.2 brought to the US in '84-'85. 72 HP, 0-62 
mph ~19 sec (that's 5+ sec faster than a 240D) highway mpg ~36-37 (more 
economical than a 240D too). VERY nice car - even nicer with a 5 speed 
that makes EVERYTHING about it nicer.


There was the 201.126 190D 2.5 brought to the US from '86-'89. 90 hp, 
0-62 mph ~ 15 sec (faster than an '81-'85 300SD). Highway economy ~33-34 
mpg. A 5 speed was available that also made everything else better, but 
VERY few of them were imported (my guess is no more than a few hundred).


Finally there was the 201.128 190D 2.5 turbo 123 hp (119 in Calif). Only 
imported to the US in '87 and fewer than 1400 were brought over. 0-62 
~11 sec. Only available as an automatic. Really a nice car - matched 
PERFECTLY with the automatic transmission. I love 5 speeds (owned 3 of 
'em), but the 190D 2.5t really is PERFECT with an automatic.


There was a European 201.122 190D 2.0 (never officially brought to the 
US) that was manufactured from '83 thru the early '90s. ~70 SAE hp and a 
little less torque than the 2.2 version sold in the US. Nice VERY 
economical car. I've done well over 40 mph on the highway with the 5 
speed I own (got 48 mpg once, but 42-43 much more usual and can drop 
below 40 with the AC cranking full blast or in the winter with winter 
fuel). Acceleration is a little slow - 18-19 sec to 62 mph - still MUCH 
faster and more economical than a 240D and much less work to maintain 
(no valves to adjust).


Timing chain life of OM60x engines is routinely almost double what it is 
on OM61x engines using regular oil and about double that again using 
Mobil 1. With just a little care, the timing chain should last the life 
of the engine TWICE!


Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Ron Dwelle]

It's sold.

Ron Dwelle

On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:12 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

For $1200 I wish some one here would buy it. That is why I posted it. I
don't have $1200 to spare. Even if it isn't a turbo, it IS a pretty good
deal. If it is a turbo, it is an extreme bargain...
Rick Knoble


- Original Message -
From: "Ron Dwelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D



Yup, you're right. I was looking at the lack of a badge on the trunk.
Trunk must have been replaced/repaired/repainted.

Ron

On Nov 12, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:

Ron, it has the slotted right front fender, which makes it a 2.5
turbo, assuming it wasn't swapped after a crash--correct?
See this pic:  http://www.johndevine.com/benz/benz%20001.jpg

On 11/12/05, Ron Dwelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Bt!!!  Wrong. The 190D, especially the turbo, is a hot little car.
Unfortunately, the one advertise on the Nashville Craig's list is not 
a

turbo, in spite of the ad. Actually the non-turbo model is not that
bad, acceleration wise. No comparison with a 240D. If I drove either 
of

the 190Ds the way I have to drive the 240 (pedal to the metal), I'd be
in jail.



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Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Rick Knoble]

For $1200 I wish some one here would buy it. That is why I posted it. I
don't have $1200 to spare. Even if it isn't a turbo, it IS a pretty good
deal. If it is a turbo, it is an extreme bargain...
Rick Knoble


- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Dwelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D


> Yup, you're right. I was looking at the lack of a badge on the trunk.
> Trunk must have been replaced/repaired/repainted.
>
> Ron
>
> On Nov 12, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
>
> Ron, it has the slotted right front fender, which makes it a 2.5
> turbo, assuming it wasn't swapped after a crash--correct?
> See this pic:  http://www.johndevine.com/benz/benz%20001.jpg
>
> On 11/12/05, Ron Dwelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Bt!!!  Wrong. The 190D, especially the turbo, is a hot little car.
> > Unfortunately, the one advertise on the Nashville Craig's list is not a
> > turbo, in spite of the ad. Actually the non-turbo model is not that
> > bad, acceleration wise. No comparison with a 240D. If I drove either of
> > the 190Ds the way I have to drive the 240 (pedal to the metal), I'd be
> > in jail.
>
>
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[MBZ] att Bio Fans

[George Gregory]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10003067/

 

http://www.dailysentinel.com/news/content/gen/ap/TX_Willie_Nelson_Biodiesel.
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Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Ron Dwelle]

Yup, you're right. I was looking at the lack of a badge on the trunk. 
Trunk must have been replaced/repaired/repainted.


Ron

On Nov 12, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:

Ron, it has the slotted right front fender, which makes it a 2.5
turbo, assuming it wasn't swapped after a crash--correct?
See this pic:  http://www.johndevine.com/benz/benz%20001.jpg

On 11/12/05, Ron Dwelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Bt!!!  Wrong. The 190D, especially the turbo, is a hot little car.
Unfortunately, the one advertise on the Nashville Craig's list is not a
turbo, in spite of the ad. Actually the non-turbo model is not that
bad, acceleration wise. No comparison with a 240D. If I drove either of
the 190Ds the way I have to drive the 240 (pedal to the metal), I'd be
in jail.

Re: [MBZ] Cell phones

[Harry Watkins]

I was never going to get one until I was right behind three cars that
smashed into the inside barrier right after a short downpour.  We were on
I-75 (speedway) south of Lakeland FL and I had no way to get help.  Of
course someone else did, whew.

So I got a Tracfone to keep in the car, $100 a year with 100 minutes I
almost never use.  It was handy when Ivan came through Pensacola though.

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Zeitgeist]

Ron, it has the slotted right front fender, which makes it a 2.5
turbo, assuming it wasn't swapped after a crash--correct?
See this pic:  http://www.johndevine.com/benz/benz%20001.jpg

On 11/12/05, Ron Dwelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bt!!!  Wrong. The 190D, especially the turbo, is a hot little car.
> Unfortunately, the one advertise on the Nashville Craig's list is not a
> turbo, in spite of the ad. Actually the non-turbo model is not that
> bad, acceleration wise. No comparison with a 240D. If I drove either of
> the 190Ds the way I have to drive the 240 (pedal to the metal), I'd be
> in jail.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (210k)
'84 300D (205k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

Re: [MBZ] OT: For the Jeep freaks, interesting Grand Wagoneer

[Peter Frederick]

A buddy of mine has one of the "old" Cherokee pickups (age unknown) he 
got for towing it home -- needed a carburetor, I think.  Pretty 
distinctive now -- paint roller paint job, it really stands out! -- and 
gets a whole 10 mpg!


He's a college student, so is making do.  Seems to run fine and is 
pretty sturdy, but the gas is killing him!


Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT: For the Jeep freaks, interesting Grand Wagoneer

[Mike Canfield]

Alex,
 After reading the ad I would not bid without an in person inspection.  Why 
do they say the oil pressure sending unit needs replaced?  Is this a typical 
AMC 360 with a bad oil pump? Does it have oil pressure?  The skip they 
mention is probably carb related. No fun to rebuild or work on at all with 
all the BS in the way.  The clunk is probably the T-case chain and will 
probably be good for a long time but, being a Benz owner, I can see you 
wanting to fix every little thing to make it right and spending a fortune on 
a vehicle that may never be right.


My $.02, Mike
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From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:44 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: For the Jeep freaks, interesting Grand Wagoneer



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4587334405

I'm kind of toying with getting one of these.  Seems like the price of
gas is driving down the used prices of all big SUVs and such.  This
one looks nice, but look at the under-the-hood pics.  What's up with
the driver's side of the engine?  Looks like there's something
missing---a bunch of hoses that don't go anywhere.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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[MBZ] eBay 300d in Georgia

[Rick Knoble]

Appears to need s B2 piston...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-Mercedes-Benz-300D-Good-body-Good-engine_W0QQitemZ4587966375QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
No affiliation, ect.

Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD

Re: [MBZ] OT: For the Jeep freaks, interesting Grand Wagoneer

[Mike Canfield]

Alex,
 I owned SEVERAL of those "full size" (They are hardly as big as what is 
full size now.park one next to an Excursion.)Waggies...They are 
great vehicles...The electrical systems can be somewhat of a nightmare 
at times and if it has Quadra-Trac the chain in the t-case should be 
checked.  Be prepared to spend a fortune on gas.  They will pass anything 
but a gas station and , from personal experience/abuse, I know they will 
take way more of a beating than you are likely to give it.
 Price still seems a bit high for an 80's modelI believe they made them 
until 91(IIRC).  I never paid more than a couple hundred bucks for the rust 
belt victims I drove.


Mike
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Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:44 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4587334405

I'm kind of toying with getting one of these.  Seems like the price of
gas is driving down the used prices of all big SUVs and such.  This
one looks nice, but look at the under-the-hood pics.  What's up with
the driver's side of the engine?  Looks like there's something
missing---a bunch of hoses that don't go anywhere.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] Liberal cop heaven

[Mike Canfield]

Who cares if he got some from her but to use the TAXPAYERS time and 
equipment as well as shirking his official duties demands some sort of 
reprimand.


Mike
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Liberal cop heaven




In a message dated 11/11/2005 9:41:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/248016_basney11.html


wooha!!! he ...met ... a drunk complainant ...and took her home and
smutted her???
ohy vey
unbelievable!
collins
1985 500 sec
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Re: [MBZ] OK Don's phat new ride

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

you got it right.

Hans Neureiter wrote:


There is a rubber cap on the modulator (3/4" dia.). Underneath is a T-handle
resting in detents. Pull it out and turn it. Left is softer, right is harder
(unless Kaleb says otherwise).

On 11/11/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I replaced the engine mounts today (thanks Rusty) - it's a MUCH nicer
ride with the engine off the frame! The left side was completely
collapsed.
The tranny mount is scheduled for tomorrow since it's the same age.
While I'm there, I'd like to adjust the shifts a bit. They're soft,
almost to the point of flaring, but not quite.
I assume this is done at the vacuum modulator?

You turn something one way or the other to adjust this?

What do you turn, and which way for harder?

TIA,
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Cell phones

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Heck, my kids dont have one, and they are 8 and 10.

BillR wrote:


-Dave M.
(one of the last people on planet Earth who does not own a cell phone!)

Dave - You are far from the last.  Neither of my grandsons have them yet,
and one of them is almost a year old.  ;-)
BillR  [Who pulls off the road to talk on his]
Jacksonville  FL  904-737-2855   cell 904-707-0404
1981 300SD  EM  266K / 201K engine
2001  I 30  'Hers'  72K
1996 Sentra  255K / @ 90K engine [one of the kids has it borrowed long-term]




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Re: [MBZ] Beer enema. meth. facts

[Mike Canfield]

I have to add to that a bit..ALL of those chemicals are not used at 
once in Hitler's brew.  Many of them can be substituted for others.  I have 
read the ingredients and watched a local law enforcement team show a class 
on how it is made.  I also know a couple idiots who used to make it and got 
scared.
 The biggest correction is this.The kids are mostly SMOKING the 
meth.not injecting it in thier veins.  Not saying that's any better.


Mike
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Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beer enema. meth. facts




In a message dated 11/11/2005 8:53:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yup - those same democrats  here in Okie land made the meth stock -cold
medicines - "behind the  counter" drugs. The police seem to think it
has at least made a dent in the  number of meth labs here


   well let me say this about that
the reason over the counter medicines have been placed behind the  counter 
(

if so they can not be easily shoplifted )
the active ingredient in methamphetamine is,  in one   method of illicit
manufacture is  Pseudoephedrine Hydrochloride
the chemicals needed are
   *   Ephedrine (Cold Tablets)  Pseudoephedrine (Cold  Tablets) Acetone
Alcohol (Isopropyl or Rubbing)  Toluene (Brake Cleaner) Ether (Engine 
Starter)

Sulfuric Acid (Drain Cleaner) Methanol/Alcohol (Gasoline  Additives) Alkyl
mercury Salt  (Table/Rock) Lithium  (Batteries) Anhydrous Ammonia  (Farm
Fertilizer) Sodium  Hydroxide (Lye) Red  Phosphorus (Matches/Road Flares) 
Muriatic Acid
Iodine (Teat Dip or  Flakes/Crystal Trichloroethylene (gun  Scrubber) 
Sodium

Metal
is this is a called  nazi meth it was a production method used by the 
Germans

in WW  2
i will not go in to how its made but in short  sutafed pills are  crushed
washed in a Coffey strainer with Acetone Alcohol (and or)  Toluene,  ether 
is
boiled  on  a electric only cooker and this is boiled for a while  and 
Sulfuric

Acid  added  pool testers used to check ph  levels
the problen ALL OF YOU face is that these assclowns who make this drug 
can
and have  made this stuff in hotle rooms cars houses and in the 
wilderness and
these chemicals used in the manufacture of this stuff  coats  everything 
in

effect all surfaces are covered with god only knows what
has become a BIG problem because  some body buys a house or renta  s hotle
room or buys a used prsteen benz and suffers mysterious health problems
not to mention all of
there are even some  jackasses who add a mecury compound  (  this is REAL
dangerous  shit ) to the mix
then  dont forget this stuff gets shot in a vain .and guess what 12% 
of

12 graders have used this drug!
it aint all ways about trying to stop some drug... some times its about 
the

unsuspecting public who ends up with using something these  guys polluted
collins
1985 500 sec
_http://www.kci.org/meth_info/sites/recovering%20meth%20user%20gives%20graphic
%20account.htm_
(http://www.kci.org/meth_info/sites/recovering%20meth%20user%20gives%20graphic%20account.htm)

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Re: [MBZ] OK Don's phat new ride

[Hans Neureiter]

There is a rubber cap on the modulator (3/4" dia.). Underneath is a T-handle
resting in detents. Pull it out and turn it. Left is softer, right is harder
(unless Kaleb says otherwise).

On 11/11/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I replaced the engine mounts today (thanks Rusty) - it's a MUCH nicer
> ride with the engine off the frame! The left side was completely
> collapsed.
> The tranny mount is scheduled for tomorrow since it's the same age.
> While I'm there, I'd like to adjust the shifts a bit. They're soft,
> almost to the point of flaring, but not quite.
> I assume this is done at the vacuum modulator?
>
> You turn something one way or the other to adjust this?
>
> What do you turn, and which way for harder?
>
> TIA,
> --
> OK Don, KD5NRO
> Norman, OK
> '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC
> The FSM created the Diesel Benz
> http://www.venganza.org/
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Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Ron Dwelle]

No, the 190D 2.2 was imported 1984 and 1985. The 2.5 was imported 1986 
through 1989. The turbo model was imported only in 1987.


Ron Dwelle

On Nov 12, 2005, at 1:02 AM, OK Don wrote:

The 190D was imported from '84 thru '86 best that I can tell.

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Ron Dwelle]

Bt!!!  Wrong. The 190D, especially the turbo, is a hot little car. 
Unfortunately, the one advertise on the Nashville Craig's list is not a 
turbo, in spite of the ad. Actually the non-turbo model is not that 
bad, acceleration wise. No comparison with a 240D. If I drove either of 
the 190Ds the way I have to drive the 240 (pedal to the metal), I'd be 
in jail.


Ron Dwelle
1982 240D
1985 190D euro
1987 190DT

On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:47 AM, Chuck Landenberger wrote:

Hi All.

IIRC, the 190D was imported for a verrry short time.  Marshall could
correct me.  But, in a drag race a 240D wins against the 190D.

And I'm not home so I don't have my Nitske book to check that out.

For anyone driving a congested city commute w/high speed
merging..  Definitely not your car.

Just my opinion..

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:



http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/110597913.html

No affiliation, ect.
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD
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Re: [MBZ] Beer enema. meth. facts

[Ed Booher]

On 11/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>well let me say this about that
>  the reason over the counter medicines have been placed behind the  counter (
>  if so they can not be easily shoplifted )

I believe you are saying that they have been set behind the counter so
that they are not as easy to shoplift?  On this I must scream to the
mountain tops BS!!! If they cared about me shoplifting Dayquil they
wouldn't make me show them my Driver's License, copy down my DL and
ask me to SIGN the book that it is ME getting ready to walk off with
this medicine.

>  the active ingredient in methamphetamine is,  in one   method of illicit
> manufacture is  Pseudoephedrine Hydrochloride
> the chemicals needed are


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[MBZ] Cell phones

[BillR]

-Dave M.
(one of the last people on planet Earth who does not own a cell phone!)

Dave - You are far from the last.  Neither of my grandsons have them yet,
and one of them is almost a year old.  ;-)
BillR  [Who pulls off the road to talk on his]
Jacksonville  FL  904-737-2855   cell 904-707-0404
1981 300SD  EM  266K / 201K engine
2001  I 30  'Hers'  72K
1996 Sentra  255K / @ 90K engine [one of the kids has it borrowed long-term]

Re: [MBZ] OT: For the Jeep freaks, interesting Grand Wagoneer

[Trampas]

Also note the new radiator. I would wonder if the engine was overheated. 

Trampas

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Looks like spare radiator hoses. One on driver's side and second on
passenger... 

Trampas

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Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:44 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] OT: For the Jeep freaks, interesting Grand Wagoneer

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4587334405

I'm kind of toying with getting one of these.  Seems like the price of
gas is driving down the used prices of all big SUVs and such.  This
one looks nice, but look at the under-the-hood pics.  What's up with
the driver's side of the engine?  Looks like there's something
missing---a bunch of hoses that don't go anywhere.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] OT: For the Jeep freaks, interesting Grand Wagoneer

[Trampas]

Looks like spare radiator hoses. One on driver's side and second on
passenger... 

Trampas

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: For the Jeep freaks, interesting Grand Wagoneer

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4587334405

I'm kind of toying with getting one of these.  Seems like the price of
gas is driving down the used prices of all big SUVs and such.  This
one looks nice, but look at the under-the-hood pics.  What's up with
the driver's side of the engine?  Looks like there's something
missing---a bunch of hoses that don't go anywhere.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98

[Brian Chase]

Yes, those 440s tend to pull like a freight train too, right from idle. 
Wasn't going to mention it, but with all the posts regarding old American 
steel, I'm going to throw out there that I have pretty much decided to sell 
my '68 Coronet 500 two door coupe.


She was my first car - had 'er since I was 16 (c. 20 years). Arizona car. 
The 500 was a luxury option, but I turned it into a street machine. Have the 
original trim.


Replace the original 383 with a 440 which I had completely rebuilt (forged 
pistons, roller rockers, stellite valve seats, etc. etc. Rebuilt tranny and 
suspension, etc. Front disc.


Won't go into too much detail, I know it's way Off Topic. Would be seeking 
around $10k - otherwise may just keep 'er in the family.


Brian



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:29:42 -0500

Although I liked the big Buicks I was more partial to the late 60's early 
70's Chryslers. My ideal pimpmobile was a 69 Chrysler Imperial my 
grandfather had. Nothing but yards of chrome, leather and a big block 440 
that sounded like a freight train when you floored it


69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata


-Original Message-
From: TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:04:44 -0500
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98


The Wildcat is my ideal Pimpmobile!

http://www.dreams-cars.net/images/Pubs/Buick/Pub_Buick_Wildcat_1966.jpg

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah the Wildcat, it wasn't only big it was pretty fast too if you ordered 
the

430cid engine option. that was a tire abuser!
>
> 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
> 72 350SL   108,000 Miles
> 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
> 1999 Mazda Miata
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:02:41 -0500
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
>
>
> You wrote:< > and largest production GM car to date, a 1972 Olds 98>>>
>
> Awww, these young whipper snapper don't know what a *real* land yacht 
is!

> ;-)
>
> The 68 Buick Wildcat was pretty big also -
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
> A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
>
>
> > beg  to differ on that largest car, have ya ever seen a 59 Caddy ? you 
can

> > almost play full court basketball on the hood
> >
> > 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
> > 72 350SL   108,000 Miles
> > 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
> > 1999 Mazda Miata
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 'Mercedes mailing list' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:12:14 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
> >
> >
> > With all of this 92 Olds 98 bashing it probably would not be wise to 
share
> > with the froup the fact that I used to own a true land barge, the 
longest

> > and largest production GM car to date, a 1972 Olds 98.
> >
> > The 92 Olds 98 is small in comparison.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Hargrave
> > 256-656-1924
> > www.kegkits.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> > On Behalf Of David Brodbeck
> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:44 PM
> > To: Mercedes mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 Olds 98
> >
> > Kevin wrote:
> >> The car handles like it needs nav lights and a ship-to-shore radio :)
> >>
> >
> > Add them.  And a flying bridge, while you're at it.  It'll be great. 
;)

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[MBZ] An SD in the new movie Derailed?

[Brian Chase]

Dieselers,

While I'm not a movie guy, I've seen a couple traliers for the new Jennifer 
Anniston movie "Deralied" and they both had shots of what appeared to be a 
late '80s 300SD. Actually, it's probably not a diesel - not sure the klatta 
is so much cut out for stunt work, but at any rate, thought it was 
interesting.


Brian
'83 240D

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Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Zeitgeist]

Jeepers folks, that's a gen-yoo-wine rare find, and a killer price as
well!  Hope someone near there nabs it up, and quick.  I wouldn't
think twice about picking that thing up, and right now--seriously.


Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (210k)
'84 300D (205k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Desert Rat]

PTWRONG.

This is the 123 HP 5 cylinder TURBO diesel (same engine found in the
124). It'll blow  other MB diesels into the weeds.

Very rare car.


On 11/11/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Disregarding the gearing possibilities-- the 190D should be faster --
>
> 123 chassis 240D - 3250 Lb and 67 HP
> 201 chasis 190D  -  2700 LB and 72 HP
>
> 240D - 48.5 Lb/HP
> 190D - 37.5 Lb/HP
>
> The 190D was imported from '84 thru '86 best that I can tell.
>
> On 11/11/05, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All.
> >
> > IIRC, the 190D was imported for a verrry short time.  Marshall could
> > correct me.  But, in a drag race a 240D wins against the 190D.
> >
> > And I'm not home so I don't have my Nitske book to check that out.
> >
> > For anyone driving a congested city commute w/high speed
> > merging..  Definitely not your car.
> >
> > Just my opinion..
> >
> > Chuck
> > Phoenix AZ
> > On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
> >
>
> --
> OK Don, KD5NRO
> Norman, OK
> '90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
> The FSM created the Diesel Benz
> http://www.venganza.org/
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1985 380SL 145K "Blue Belle"

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[OK Don]

Disregarding the gearing possibilities-- the 190D should be faster --

123 chassis 240D - 3250 Lb and 67 HP
201 chasis 190D  -  2700 LB and 72 HP

240D - 48.5 Lb/HP
190D - 37.5 Lb/HP

The 190D was imported from '84 thru '86 best that I can tell.

On 11/11/05, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All.
>
> IIRC, the 190D was imported for a verrry short time.  Marshall could
> correct me.  But, in a drag race a 240D wins against the 190D.
>
> And I'm not home so I don't have my Nitske book to check that out.
>
> For anyone driving a congested city commute w/high speed
> merging..  Definitely not your car.
>
> Just my opinion..
>
> Chuck
> Phoenix AZ
> On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
>

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Norman, OK
'90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Chuck Landenberger]

Hi All.

IIRC, the 190D was imported for a verrry short time.  Marshall could  
correct me.  But, in a drag race a 240D wins against the 190D.


And I'm not home so I don't have my Nitske book to check that out.

For anyone driving a congested city commute w/high speed  
merging..  Definitely not your car.


Just my opinion..

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:



http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/110597913.html

No affiliation, ect.
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD
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[MBZ] OT: For the Jeep freaks, interesting Grand Wagoneer

[Alex Chamberlain]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4587334405

I'm kind of toying with getting one of these.  Seems like the price of
gas is driving down the used prices of all big SUVs and such.  This
one looks nice, but look at the under-the-hood pics.  What's up with
the driver's side of the engine?  Looks like there's something
missing---a bunch of hoses that don't go anywhere.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] Liberal cop heaven

[PONDERSOA]

 
In a message dated 11/11/2005 9:41:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/248016_basney11.html


wooha!!! he ...met ... a drunk complainant ...and took her home and  
smutted her??? 
ohy vey
unbelievable!
collins 
1985 500 sec 

Re: [MBZ] Beer enema. meth. facts

[PONDERSOA]

 
In a message dated 11/11/2005 8:53:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yup - those same democrats  here in Okie land made the meth stock -cold
medicines - "behind the  counter" drugs. The police seem to think it
has at least made a dent in the  number of meth labs here


well let me say this about that
 the reason over the counter medicines have been placed behind the  counter ( 
 if so they can not be easily shoplifted ) 
 the active ingredient in methamphetamine is,  in one   method of illicit  
manufacture is  Pseudoephedrine Hydrochloride
the chemicals needed are 
*   Ephedrine (Cold Tablets)  Pseudoephedrine (Cold  Tablets) Acetone 
Alcohol (Isopropyl or Rubbing)  Toluene (Brake Cleaner) Ether (Engine Starter) 
Sulfuric Acid (Drain Cleaner) Methanol/Alcohol (Gasoline  Additives) Alkyl 
mercury Salt  (Table/Rock) Lithium  (Batteries) Anhydrous Ammonia  (Farm 
Fertilizer) Sodium  Hydroxide (Lye) Red  Phosphorus (Matches/Road Flares) 
Muriatic Acid  
Iodine (Teat Dip or  Flakes/Crystal Trichloroethylene (gun  Scrubber) Sodium  
Metal  
is this is a called  nazi meth it was a production method used by the Germans 
in WW  2  
i will not go in to how its made but in short  sutafed pills are  crushed  
washed in a Coffey strainer with Acetone Alcohol (and or)  Toluene,  ether is 
boiled  on  a electric only cooker and this is boiled for a while  and  
Sulfuric 
Acid  added  pool testers used to check ph  levels   
the problen ALL OF YOU face is that these assclowns who make this drug  can 
and have  made this stuff in hotle rooms cars houses and in the  wilderness and 
these chemicals used in the manufacture of this stuff  coats  everything  in 
effect all surfaces are covered with god only knows what  
has become a BIG problem because  some body buys a house or renta  s hotle 
room or buys a used prsteen benz and suffers mysterious health problems  
not to mention all of  
there are even some  jackasses who add a mecury compound  (  this is REAL  
dangerous  shit ) to the mix  
then  dont forget this stuff gets shot in a vain .and guess what 12%  of 
12 graders have used this drug! 
it aint all ways about trying to stop some drug... some times its about  the 
unsuspecting public who ends up with using something these  guys polluted 
collins  
1985 500 sec  
_http://www.kci.org/meth_info/sites/recovering%20meth%20user%20gives%20graphic
%20account.htm_ 
(http://www.kci.org/meth_info/sites/recovering%20meth%20user%20gives%20graphic%20account.htm)
 

Re: [MBZ] Good deal here

[Chuck Landenberger]

Craigslist in Boston now sez:

This posting has been removed by craigslist staff

://boston.craigslist.org/car/110471278.html


Lee
 
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I encouraged the badges on the rear of my sedan to fall off. Normally a
Anyone know where I can get Mercedes paint in a spray can?


http://www.paintscratch.com/

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

[MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D

[Rick Knoble]

http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/110597913.html

No affiliation, ect.
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD

Re: [MBZ] For G-Wagon Lovers

[dave walton]

What's the square box thing above the passenger (right) front wheel?

-Dave Walton


On 11/11/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What the Canadian military is driving in Afghanistan now.
>
> http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?find&defaultjoin=and&field=Keywords&op=contains&value=+&field=Keywords&op=contains&value=mercedes&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos&template=results_e.np&sorton=IPTC%20-%20DateCreated&ascending=0
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> Tim
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[MBZ] Liberal cop heaven

[redghost]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/248016_basney11.html

Another reason Seattle is such a great place.  It is a wonder the 
crooks even get caught.  Must be the social services



--
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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] For G-Wagon Lovers

[Gerald R. Flintrop]

Those out here at Camp Pendleton's SOG motor pool are.

Jerry

 

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are the military versions diesel powered?
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Re: [MBZ] GOOD DEAL HERE

[PONDERSOA]

 
 
In a message dated 11/11/2005 5:28:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

http://boston.craigslist.org/car/110471278.html


 hm sounds kinda fishy to me  what i would do if you are  interested in 
this car you can probably ask the seller for a test drive but  before the drive 
contact your local police 
 i am thinking this car might be a replate ( a car who's vehicle  
identification number was  taken off of a  different auto )   usually all 
departments 
have an auto squad, that is a unit  that  has contact with the manufacturer not 
just the dealers they have special  knowledge in the hidden vin locations and 
will usually do  a search for  members of the public if the car is in stolen 
status they will obviously not  return it , but if you have not purch. the vech 
no harm doen.
 
 collins 
 1985 500 sec

Re: [MBZ] For G-Wagon Lovers

[Gabriel S.]

are the military versions diesel powered?

Re: [MBZ] For G-Wagon Lovers

[Gabriel S.]

wow, those things look cool when set up like that (narrow tires, roof rack),
it's a shame to see them sitting on 25" chrome rims in compton.

Re: [MBZ] OK Don's phat new ride

[OK Don]

I replaced the engine mounts today (thanks Rusty) - it's a MUCH nicer
ride with the engine off the frame! The left side was completely
collapsed.
The tranny mount is scheduled for tomorrow since it's the same age.
While I'm there, I'd like to adjust the shifts a bit. They're soft,
almost to the point of flaring, but not quite.
I assume this is done at the vacuum modulator?

You turn something one way or the other to adjust this?

What do you turn, and which way for harder?

TIA,
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Norman, OK
'90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

[MBZ] NOLA refugees

[redghost]

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=25131

And they did not invest in a Benz with the loot?

--
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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Beer enema

[redghost]

http://www.oweb.com/state/story/202005_staWV--PainPatch-M0065.asp

Just do what Lt Don does



On Wednesday, November 9, 2005, at 06:42 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:


Hey, what part of "all will be forgiven" did you not understand???
Just send the freakin meds, man

On 11/9/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Y'all do not want these.  Really mess you up.  Make you send things to
online community that result in huge embarrassment.




--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Good deal here

[OK Don]

Sheesh - did you see the plumbing in front of the radiator?

On 11/11/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Somebody got screwed, and she is mad that it was his secretary, so 
>
> away goes his toy
>


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Norman, OK
'90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

Re: [MBZ] Beer enema

[OK Don]

Yup - those same democrats here in Okie land made the meth stock -cold
medicines - "behind the counter" drugs. The police seem to think it
has at least made a dent in the number of meth labs here.

On 11/11/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess if you need to live in a storage unit, that is as good a place
> as the next to cook meth.  Democrats just love to enable the meth
> heads,  Makes them feel good to have full use of all public services,
> like the cops, the rehab centers, child protective, the jails and
> courts, get crackhead mama some welfare, toss in some socialized
> medicine, parole officers, food banks, special ed for the crack babies
> with fetal alcohol syndrome, maybe some AIDs care.  Heck it is a full
> employment program, got to have a way to track where your downtrodden
> voters are.
>

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'90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

Re: [MBZ] Deux Chevaux

[B Dike]

I drove a 2CV to school as a kid.  Great mileage but
not good in snow because of low clearance and the pan
below the engine would ride up over the snow and leave
the wheels high and dry.  But a couple kids could lift
the car up and move it.  The door windows were hinged
and opened by flipping them up.  If you closed the
door shut by pulling on the window opening, the window
would  slam shut on your fingers and darn near break
them! 

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Speaking of 2CVs, a few weeks ago I saw a 2CV
> Charleston (I think) bounding 
> along here in Seattle. New condition, almost. Rara
> avis.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good deal here

[redghost]

Somebody got screwed, and she is mad that it was his secretary, so 

away goes his toy

On Friday, November 11, 2005, at 02:27 PM, Lee Levitt wrote:


Is there any chance that it's *not* a scam?

http://boston.craigslist.org/car/110471278.html

Lee
'93 300D 2.5L td 178K



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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Cupholder for E320

[James Jetton]

Yes, they did put phones in.  With hands free capability.


James Jetton
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1982 300D Turbo
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I flipped through a copy of the Canadian Forces magazine at the
bookstore a couple months back and there was a letter to the editor
from a soldier in the camp at Kabul. He expressed discontent at some
of the mechanical issues with their new G-Wagons. I didn't see exactly
what he was complaining about though.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/11/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> TimothyPilgrim wrote:
> > What the Canadian military is driving in Afghanistan now.
> >
> > http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?find&defaultjoin=
=3Dand&field=3DKeywords&op=3Dcontains&value=3D+&field=3DKeywords&op=3Dconta=
ins&value=3Dmercedes&site=3Dcombatcamera&catalog=3Dphotos&template=3Dresult=
s_e.np&sorton=3DIPTC%20-%20DateCreated&ascending=3D0
>
> The US Marine Corps has 60-80 G-Wagons as well.
>
> Marshall

Re: [MBZ] Beer enema

[redghost]

I guess if you need to live in a storage unit, that is as good a place 
as the next to cook meth.  Democrats just love to enable the meth 
heads,  Makes them feel good to have full use of all public services, 
like the cops, the rehab centers, child protective, the jails and 
courts, get crackhead mama some welfare, toss in some socialized 
medicine, parole officers, food banks, special ed for the crack babies 
with fetal alcohol syndrome, maybe some AIDs care.  Heck it is a full 
employment program, got to have a way to track where your downtrodden 
voters are.



On Friday, November 11, 2005, at 11:34 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:


redghost wrote:
I am sure you did not vote illegally.  that is left to the Seattle 
Dems

who signed up the dead, the incarcerated, and those living in storage
units or cardboard boxes in a post office.



Of course, according to the Washington State Republicans, just living 
in
an apartment building with a name that sounds vaguely like it might be 
a

postal drop is enough basis to challenge your right to vote.  But only
if you live in a Democratic-leaning area, of course.  Also, if you're a
live-in manager at a storage facility in a Democratic district,
Republicans don't think you should get to vote.

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Re: [MBZ] For G-Wagon Lovers

[Marshall Booth]

TimothyPilgrim wrote:

What the Canadian military is driving in Afghanistan now.

http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?find&defaultjoin=and&field=Keywords&op=contains&value=+&field=Keywords&op=contains&value=mercedes&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos&template=results_e.np&sorton=IPTC%20-%20DateCreated&ascending=0


The US Marine Corps has 60-80 G-Wagons as well.

Marshall
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[MBZ] For G-Wagon Lovers

[TimothyPilgrim]

What the Canadian military is driving in Afghanistan now.

http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?find&defaultjoin=and&field=Keywords&op=contains&value=+&field=Keywords&op=contains&value=mercedes&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos&template=results_e.np&sorton=IPTC%20-%20DateCreated&ascending=0

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D, its runs grate

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

if you give me the vin, and no, Im not going to the auction, Im too lazy

Tan Qu wrote:


Kaleb,

Can you pull the Carfax record on this "runs grate"
190D? It is only 20 miles from me. Thanks.


Tan

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/190D-Mercedes-Benz-1988_W0QQitemZ4586768380QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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Re: [MBZ] Friday Moose story

[L . Mark Finch]

Yes, but there's a question as to whether the inebriated ungulates were  
drunken moose or sozzled elk.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4419876.stm


On Nov 11, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:


Did anyone post this earlier in the week?
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/wire/sns-ap-drunken- 
moose,0,527132.story?coll=sns-ap-world-headlines


Rick Knoble
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