CSRE: Body Energizer
Ran across this on the Rife List and found it interesting http://www.molecularenhancer.com/three-piece_charger.htm He has an interesting approach. He is not selling the machine but on loan for research. Claims it cured his cancer. machines like this have become popular recently. Ed Kasper LAc., -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CShoney to faith
I thought part of the healing power of Honey or Sugar for external application was in the osmosis (spelling) the drawing in/sealing off the wound. Sorta dehydrates the infection. If that were the case the microbogicaly activity would not matter. Although IMO, everything helps, and Raw is optimum. Ed Kasper LAc. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CShoney to faith You know, I kind of wonder about this. Heating honey may deactivate some enzymes and so on and make it ineffective for certain things. However, even sugar is supposed to have beneficial effects when put onto a wound, drawing and sterilizing, so I would think that honey would at least work in a similar manner, regardless of whether it has been heated or not. Dan -- From: Staya Udanvti Bob Butler [mailto:cheroke...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShoney to faith For HONEY to be an effective herbal remedy it must be Raw, natural, un-processed, un-heated, un-filtered, honey. Real honey as extracted from the combs will contain bits of wax, pollen beads, propolis, and bee body parts. This will not sell in stores. I know of no way to put the organic title to honey as the bees will travel up to fifty miles away. If someone is touting organic then their honey must come from a very remote island at least 50 miles from any other land. Heating above 105³ F kills the beneficial enzymes. Microwaving honey also destroys the enzymes. Typical honey analysis: Fructose: 38%, Glucose: 31%, Sucrose: 1%, Water: 17%, Other sugars: 9% (maltose, melezitose), Ash: 0.17% .. Source: Sugar Alliance Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti
RE: CSRe: RE: CShoney to faith
with germs do you mean any microbes, fungus, viral, bacteria, etc... Is the water the hydrate from the microbes, so it would kill by dehydrating the microbes? Ed -Original Message- From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net [mailto:noblemet...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: RE: CShoney to faith Honey produces H2O2 when in contact with germs. From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net Date: 2006/09/22 Fri PM 12:36:24 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CShoney to faith I thought part of the healing power of Honey or Sugar for external application was in the osmosis (spelling) the drawing in/sealing off the wound. Sorta dehydrates the infection. If that were the case the microbogicaly activity would not matter. Although IMO, everything helps, and Raw is optimum. Ed Kasper LAc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHow long does it last?
Ode, thanks for the reassurance. It brings me make to my attempts to understanding disorders and our bodies. Pleomorphism http://www.enderlein.com/About_Pleomorphism.htm When talking in terms of diseases I think its better prefix any thoughts with I don't know Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 7:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHow long does it last? At 09:57 AM 9/14/2006 -0700, you wrote: So goes my theory that EIS/CS negative charge contributes to its healing properties. Ed Kasper LAc. Santa Cruz, CA. Maybe not. There goes the idea that the CS has a negative charge in the bottle and after a while. Ion exchange and relative charges 'in vivo' or in the presence of pathogens is a whole 'nother story. The mainstream is chasing ion exchange like mad men splashing in puddles. We may just be wading in it up to our necks by sheer accident. The hydroxyl anions associated with silver ions can make a very unstable compound out of the silver. Metallic silver can be re-ionized under various conditions. The body and pathogens is a conditional soup where anything that can happen, probably does and no one thing is the limit. Silver in its varied forms and compounds could work one way, then turn around and work backwards another way, then make a right, then left turn to work yet another set of ways in a progression of reactions and interaction with an ever changing electro-chemical environment. [Chemical reactions can be stated as electronic equations and still say the same things ..not that I quite understand or completely comprehend either way of looking at it. ;-)] Very fresh CS is obviously different than CS that's only several hours old. This is easily provable. What that difference means In use By whom Used how and For what isn't so obvious. If there's one thing one could say about CS/EIS ...it's, it never stays the same under sufficiently different conditions. It's dynamic. Which also could explain why for some people used in some applications it's a fantastic miracle and for some it's ho hum. The deeper you go into the soup, the more varied the conditions, change and exchange probabilities . The less that it encounters to change it for better or worse, [ direct surface contact] the more it works predictably. Some swear by one thing and some swear at it. Your set of rules in this game may well not apply to *anyone* else without doing some creative editing and maybe even your set is constantly changing with a progression of conditions that *using* the silver sets into motion. Dosing and methods of use recommendations I've seen often make no sense at alland perhaps they shouldn't. Are prescription meds any different? Why does the Doc give you a bomb when a pellet would have done, then change that to a missile? then it's a prayer that cures ya. Mystery used to be spelled, My Story. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant
I like the idea, But what about the chlorine in the tap water. Isn't chlorine evaporated, and thus would end up in the cooler bottle. A second stage would be necessary to to allow the chlorine to evaporate off. Ed Kasper LAc. Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Lisa Shepherd [mailto:windwalkers...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant if you would like to distill some of the tap water, it is really quite simple, my a/c instructor told me about this method, used to clean freon as an experiment he tried, should work well with water in warm weather, though you would need a tester to verify how clean it came through. Thought I would share it so someone could try anyway, as I am not home enough to do these kinds of tests at this time. Simply place a bottle of the tap water outside where it is very warm/hot, run a tube through a window or small opening, into another empty bottle, natural process occurs, the vapor that heat creates becomes liquid again on the inside cool bottle. If you try this let me know how it goes, have thought many times of trying it but havent gotten settled enough to do such things yet, still unpacking...ugh...at 1 day a week it will take me 3 years to get it all unpackedlol...good luck. Godspeed all, Lisa. Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Jonathan B. Britten wrote: I should have mentioned that we can indeed make our own products at almost no cost. I've never tried, but if it works, deodorant would be very nearly free. The products in the stores are oven quite lucrative for the manufacturers. One could make a pint or two of EIS, store it in plastic atomizer bottles, and have a ready supply of deodorant for pennies. That could add up to enormous savings over time. I should try. I'll post the results. BTW, seems plain tap water would work all right for this purpose; you'd end up with silver salts, but for use on the skin it shouldn't matter much. In my little home experiments, tap water produces lots of sliver salts very quickly. One should never ingest these, but for a homemade deodorant, tap water would be cheaper and faster. On an automatic generator, the shutoff is pretty fast. Actually in the case of argyria, silver salts on the skin is worse than taking by mouth. Silver salts have been known to cause argyria in a matter of minutes on the skin with only one application. The reason is that when taken by mouth it would take a good bit to reach the threashold value of salts in the skin, but when applied directly it can only take a drop. Marshall JBB On Friday, Sep 1, 2006, at 05:41 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote: I have been using 19ppm CS twice daily as a splash-on deodorant and have been very pleased with it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
RE: CSHow long does it last?
So goes my theory that EIS/CS negative charge contributes to its healing properties. Ed Kasper LAc. Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHow long does it last? EIS/CS doesn't have a charge [as commonly promoted as ionic charge ] after a few hours. Once all the ions find the anions made at the same time, it's over all charge neutral and particle repulsion is presented by weak Vandervals forces, not ionic charge. Being extremely chemically active, it's not likely that many, if any, free ions exist after a few hours. What ions get stripped off in vivo and -become- ionically charged -again-..and what that does, is a subject for many guesses. It is, however, generally stable on the shelf for years if only pure water is present. In the presence of other substances, it's not very stable. Ions strip easily. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTabasco peppers...
As a herbalist they are not equal. Cayenne is a specific type of hot pepper. Tabasco is about 40,000 HU. Low by today's standard and what's on the market. For an emergency anything HOT, as HOT as one can get and take is the recommendation (SCHULTZ) Don't forget to add the CS Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers... In a message dated 9/11/2006 11:13:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, oldgl...@bigcountry.net writes: Secondly if Dr Christopher was having success with a 40,000 HU cayenne, maybe heat is not so much a factor as is the type of herb that he used. Habanero's were certainly available for Dr Christopher to choose from How much tabasco would be equal to a t of cayenne? Brickey
RE: CSsilver comparisons
as a side note 16 oz of good quality CS also contains 12 oz of Distilled Water. Which IMO, is a plus, as people generally are dehydrated and need a good quality water to also help remove toxins from the body.. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Mike and Nancy [mailto:nancym...@delisefamily.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsilver comparisons Yes! - Original Message - From: gmetrop...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:02 PM Subject: Re: CSsilver comparisons Nancy, Does this mean that if one is advised to take 16oz/d. of good quality homemade with added peroxide that only 2 teaspoons a day of Argentum would be necessary?
RE: CSTabasco peppers...
My point was truth in labeling. Habanero are not cayenne. Secondly if Dr Christopher was having success with a 40,000 HU cayenne, maybe heat is not so much a factor as is the type of herb that he used. Habanero's were certainly available for Dr Christopher to choose from. and Tabasco is readily available, affordable and with a well deserved reputation. Finally, only a few have addressed my question of using a combination of CS and hot peppers BTW, Dennis did you ever try to just collect the oils form the peppers. Try heating for a long time just below boiling. The oil will come to the top and can be collected. That stuff will really be all hot. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Dennis Gulenchin [mailto:dgulenc...@mts.net] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers... Almost every local grocery has fresh habanero peppers in the produce section for a reasonable price. I have purchased these, (when I run out of my homegrown chili peppers)dried and ground them up and they are noticeably hotter than the chili peppers. Dennis Ed Kasper wrote: ahhh ... Dr Christopher's original formula hot cayenne. .is really habanero peppers ??? According to Curing with Cayenne, Schultz stated ...Dr Christopher was using the low potency 40,000 unit cayenne page 41 tobasco is hotter than 40,000 Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: julie martin [mailto:wolfp...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 9:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers... i recently purchased a new bottle of cayenne extract. this time i found Dr Christopher's original formula hot cayenne. it still uses grain alcohol and includes habanero pepper (200,000 hu). i have read that habanero can be used instead of the cayenne. i understand it can be purchased at Teeter Creek herbs if requested. i do not think tobasco pepper would be hot enough and would not rely on their use in the case of a heart attack unless i had no choice. many people keep cayenne pepper (powdered) in their spice cabinet. it is not expensive and can be found in the local grocery or fresher, higher hu can be found in the herb shops or Whole Foods markets. many people also keep an emergency first aid kit in their homes and cars. it would be simple enough to purchase a bottle of the extract to keep to include in this kit so one would find it easily in an emergency. these one ounce bottles cost $10 - $14. julie --- M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Remember the question I was asking was whether the tabasco sauce many folks would have in the cupboard would be useful first aid for a heart attack, as is reported about cayenne pepper. It's not cayenne but frutescens. One can assume, or use whatever's at hand, I suppose, but we don't know for sure. Anything would be better than nothing? What about other hot sauces? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTabasco peppers...
Any Hot pepper works. according to Richard Schulze in Curing with Cayenne page 119 IMO, however cayenne does have properties others don't (that we know about) Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 7:38 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers... Yumm. Sounds good, Dennis. I miss gardening. Haven't done so since I was about 14. Remember the question I was asking was whether the tabasco sauce many folks would have in the cupboard would be useful first aid for a heart attack, as is reported about cayenne pepper. It's not cayenne but frutescens. One can assume, or use whatever's at hand, I suppose, but we don't know for sure. Anything would be better than nothing? What about other hot sauces? Be well, Mike D. Mike, I grow chili peppers every year to be dried an ground up and the pods look like the tabasco variety but the plant is not as big or bushy. They are about a foot high with about 50 pods per plant. There is some good info and pictures at Pepper Profile: Capsicum Frutescens http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/profile_frutescens.html According to this site, the species name frutescens means shrubby or bushy. Dennis M. G. Devour wrote: Well, I got an answer to my question about the peppers used in Tabasco sauce. Don't know exactly what it means, though... Mike D. --- Forwarded message follows --- To: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Simple ingredient question... From:Whats Cooking whatscook...@tabasco.com Date sent: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:33:25 -0500 Thank you for your email of recent date. No, TABASCO(R) Peppers are Capsicum frutescens, TABASCO(R) variety. Cayenne peppers are Capsicum annum. Thank you for your interest in our company and our products. M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com 08/31/2006 07:59 AM To: whatscook...@tabasco.com Subject: Simple ingredient question... Are the peppers you use a variety of cayenne, or some other pepper entirely? Be well, Mike D. --- End of forwarded message --- [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
RE: CSTabasco peppers...
ahhh ... Dr Christopher's original formula hot cayenne. .is really habanero peppers ??? According to Curing with Cayenne, Schultz stated ...Dr Christopher was using the low potency 40,000 unit cayenne page 41 tobasco is hotter than 40,000 Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: julie martin [mailto:wolfp...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 9:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers... i recently purchased a new bottle of cayenne extract. this time i found Dr Christopher's original formula hot cayenne. it still uses grain alcohol and includes habanero pepper (200,000 hu). i have read that habanero can be used instead of the cayenne. i understand it can be purchased at Teeter Creek herbs if requested. i do not think tobasco pepper would be hot enough and would not rely on their use in the case of a heart attack unless i had no choice. many people keep cayenne pepper (powdered) in their spice cabinet. it is not expensive and can be found in the local grocery or fresher, higher hu can be found in the herb shops or Whole Foods markets. many people also keep an emergency first aid kit in their homes and cars. it would be simple enough to purchase a bottle of the extract to keep to include in this kit so one would find it easily in an emergency. these one ounce bottles cost $10 - $14. julie --- M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Remember the question I was asking was whether the tabasco sauce many folks would have in the cupboard would be useful first aid for a heart attack, as is reported about cayenne pepper. It's not cayenne but frutescens. One can assume, or use whatever's at hand, I suppose, but we don't know for sure. Anything would be better than nothing? What about other hot sauces? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTabasco peppers...
Yes, I agree. IMO, Dr Christopher contributed much to American herbal medicine especially by making his formulas public and not propriety. IF the manufacture of his products benefit Dr Christopher's family that I would like to support them, otherwise Schulze (and others) often refer to Dr Christopher, and use his formulas as a bases for their own. They also make their own formulas but more often state what is in the formula. Truth in labeling should be truthful. As a herbalist myself my clients know they can make their own, but often prefer me to make it for them. No problems. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: julie martin [mailto:wolfp...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 10:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTabasco peppers... no, it apparently has both cayenne and habanero. i have read elsewhere that habanero can be used in place of the cayenne. i just found it interesting that the bottle states Dr Christopher's Original Formula and the ingredients are propriety blend and habanero. julie --- Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: ahhh ... Dr Christopher's original formula hot cayenne. .is really habanero peppers ??? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTabasco peppers...
high grain all-natural vinegar, I would take to mean higher than the common 5% acetic acid which is referred to as 5 grains, found in most store bought vinegars. While 8 grains (8% acetic acid) is used in pickling. Tabasco's high grain may refer to a higher than 5% acetic acid level. That could mean a longer shelf life if one were to water down their Tabasco with CS. IMO, an acetic acid level of 2% would be good for close to one year, not counting any anti pathogenic preservative effects of the CS. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTabasco peppers... Show me a Heat Scale of peppers ranging from mild to hot. Changing local weather conditions affect the heat level of peppers - which means the Scoville ratings shown below are averages. Some peppers are listed in two different cateogory ranges due to the variation. Pepper Heat Scale 100,000-350,000 Habanero; Scotch Bonnet 50,000-100,000 Chiltepin; Cayenne; Tabasco 30,000-50,000 Aji; Piquin; Tabasco 15,000-30,000 de Arbol 5,000-15,000Serrano; Early jalapeno; Aji Amarillo 2,500-5,000 jalapeno; Mirasol 1,500-2,500 Sandia; cascabel; Yellow Wax Hot 1,000-1,500 Ancho; Pasilla 500-1,000 Anaheim; New Mexican 100-500 Bell; Pimento What's in TABASCO^® sauce? TABASCO brand pepper sauce is made with three simple ingredients: fully-aged red pepper, high grain all-natural vinegar, and a small amount of salt mined right on Avery Island. It's pure pepper sauce—no additives whatsoever. lot of good info on www.tabasco.com jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION.
Thanks Ode. Is that the way the silver cleaner works. Putting baking soda in water with a piece of aluminum foil? Ed -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION. At 05:44 PM 9/4/2006 -0700, you wrote: Ionic silver versus ionic detoxification ? Is there a difference. Can some one explain how the ionic detox works, tried Google with plans and how to got 153,000 hits but no breakdown of how the thing really works nuts and bolts wise. Couldn't you just put your feet in the CS machine ? Ed ## Yup Depending on what you do with the electrodes and electrolytes, voltage and current, you can put silver in or take stuff out right through the skin. ..but what stuff is coming out? I don't see how it can be very selective. Mebbe it doesn't need to be if you put the right stuff back in. You don't need an electrode array. Just put a rubber matt in a stainless steel pot full of salt water and stand on it. Control the current flow by how salty the water is or use a potentiometer...or both. [If your toes start to wiggle, turn it down] Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION.
Thanks, ED -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 5:48 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION. Ionic transfer between different potentials, yes. Silver and Aluminum makes it's own battery..a very weak one. Add an external battery and you add to the differences in potential, can direct which way ions go and at what rate. Ode At 11:17 PM 9/5/2006 -0700, you wrote: Thanks Ode. Is that the way the silver cleaner works. Putting baking soda in water with a piece of aluminum foil? Ed -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION. At 05:44 PM 9/4/2006 -0700, you wrote: Ionic silver versus ionic detoxification ? Is there a difference. Can some one explain how the ionic detox works, tried Google with plans and how to got 153,000 hits but no breakdown of how the thing really works nuts and bolts wise. Couldn't you just put your feet in the CS machine ? Ed ## Yup Depending on what you do with the electrodes and electrolytes, voltage and current, you can put silver in or take stuff out right through the skin. ..but what stuff is coming out? I don't see how it can be very selective. Mebbe it doesn't need to be if you put the right stuff back in. You don't need an electrode array. Just put a rubber matt in a stainless steel pot full of salt water and stand on it. Control the current flow by how salty the water is or use a potentiometer...or both. [If your toes start to wiggle, turn it down] Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006
CSIONIC DETOXIFICATION.
Ionic silver versus ionic detoxification ? Is there a difference. Can some one explain how the ionic detox works, tried Google with plans and how to got 153,000 hits but no breakdown of how the thing really works nuts and bolts wise. Couldn't you just put your feet in the CS machine ? Ed -Original Message- From: ccdirectt [mailto:ccdire...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSore Knee Look into IONIC DETOXIFICATION. You put your feet into a thing of water with a ion device it draws out toxins,heavy metals other stuff.A lot of chiropractors are doing it.Its about $30 to $75 per treatment.Heres a photo i posted on curezone.com You can buy these devices on Ebay $299 up. The one they used on me cost $747 on Ebay.I intend to buy one soon. http://curezone.com/ig/search.asp?myquery=ionic+detoxificati on -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSKidney Infections
as a preventative probiotics like kefir, kombucha, sauerkrauts protect from E Coli and other pathogens. There is some research showing effectiveness of these ferments. Most important after a course of antibiotics and CS. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKidney Infections Excellent news, Del, and nice report. A family member uses oral CS to keep recurrent bladder infections under control from daily catheterization to void the bladder. It does work. Be well, Mike D. We just had a scare with our two year old twin grandchildren because of a severe E-Coli infection. This can be fatal to small children because it can cause renal failure. The doctors offered no help, said there was no antibiotic for it, just wait and hope. Meanwhile, in the news, a child in Albany died from it. So my daughter was scared out of her mind. We treated them with colloidal silver around the clock, and also with d-mannose in a formulation called Clear Tract which is specifically recommended for kidney and bladder infections, and is especially effective against e-coli infections of same. End result is that both kids are fine now two and a half weeks later. Having the right knowledge can save lives! Del [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency
RE: CSTravel Kit EmergencyAdding CS to Cayenne will get CS to the destination faster (in theory) That's why I would like to hear from those that use cayenne and use CS. IMO, they should be added together, but personal testimony is important. Some claims that cayenne as a nasal spray is superior. I am not sure how CS would react to alcohol or vinegar, with cayenne it should be fine, or I see no reason why a combination would be bad. If you simply have a glass of CS and some cayenne powdered and mixed what you needed when you needed would work. However, IMO, a cayenne tincture is simply more powerful. If CS was added just before that would be IMO, an added value. However, if CS was added to the tincture beforehand then that would be simpler and quicker, being ready made. Many of the disorders cayenne are noted for are inflammation in nature. Cayenne may work to just blast through working through the stagnation caused by inflammation. CS should work as an anti-inflammatory, more of the root of the problem, that which causes the inflammation. Any on know of possible bad reaction of CS with alcohol or vinegar? Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 12:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency Tinctures made with 80 proof vodka don't need any preservative. I'm not sure about vinegar, but it doesn't seem to need any preservative by itself so I don't think that it should need any for the tincture, especially if there is alcohol in it as well. The point is to make the tincture very strong (with much more herb than most herbalists generally use) so that you don't have to take so much of the carrier (ie alcohol or vinegar) in order to get a good dose of the herb. I don't think you need to add CS. Dan -- From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Fri 9/1/2006 9:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency When doing these home tinctures, alcohol most of the times refer to vodka. Most alcohol content is listed in proof as in 80 proof. which means that 80 proof equals 40% alcohol by volume. 40 proof is 20% alcohol. Proof equals 1/2 alcohol . As a preservative different herbs may call for different percentages alcohol. I am not sure what percentage cayenne calls for, but I'm pretty sure only needs 10-20% by volume alcohol. Also as Tabasco and others only use vinegar (acetic acid) is more economical but not as hot as alcohol. By question is what would the combination of Colloidal Silver and vinegar or alcohol be? Maybe CS as a preservative would not need anything else (but it does not seem to work that particular way. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. attachment: winmail.dat
RE: CSCayenne tincture
I think they may have been referring to cross contamination. That could happen to anything that is opened and say in a water bottle, is drunk and some of the fluid runs back into the bottle after being in the mouth. Back flow. Also possible with medicine droppers. Where the eye dropper squirts the medicine out but the person is not careful and lets the pipette come in contact with some surface and brings it back into the bottle. The European shaker bottle address some of those concerns. Otherwise I would not see any problems, CS may fall out of suspension, or worse bond with some element within vinegar 0r alcohol or cayenne. I wonder if there is a test that could check that out. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 7:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCayenne tincture I thought someone warned once to never drink out of the bottle of CS because it would cause it to fall out of suspension if it is contaminated with anything. So, I can't imagine how you could mix it with vinegar or other food and have it stay ok for any period of time. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne Tincture Methods
Can a tech who operates a gas chromatograph qualify as an expert in medicinal herbs because he or she can tell you how the ppm of compound X in this or that herb sample that crosses the lab bench? For example in markers and standardization of extracts. Biochemical markers are required for pharmaceutical extractions of single herbs and formulas. You absolutely do not care what those compounds do pharmacologically or physiologically. They are markers, not active ingredients, by definition. You do a chemical assay and project the three dimensional peaks onto your computer screen. You need three dimensional peaks to see if the peaks are clean and without other internal peaks in the topography. You look for overall consistency in the relative amplitudes of the peaks to assure yourself that this current batch of extract has been carried out in the same manner as all of the previous batches. There is no biological assay or clinical assay involved in any of this. The company will simply identify what is the most appropriate for them, in means of production. For example hypericum (the marker associated with hypercium) in the herb St John's Wort was identified as the ingredient. The commercial interests created value by percentage of those markers. Concentrated and standardized to those markers, people in Europe who were prescribed this phyto-drug by allopathic medical doctors became sick and then tried to ban the natural herb St John's Wort as dangerous. Same as Ma Huang (ephedrine) and a host of other phyto-drugs. My answer is do what you do. mix and tincture the herbs as you outlined below. The overall effectiveness may vary season to season. Maybe need a little bit more or a little bit less, but the safety and effectiveness will be known, this knowledge can be passed on, and we can learn from our experience. just my 2 cents Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@fugitt.com] Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 7:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCayenne Tincture Methods Morning Teri, At 08:13 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote: Since I have 20 Habenaro plants, 6 cayenne, and 1 Caribbean red I have plenty to make a tincture. My question is do you leave the seeds in when you grind in the blender??? Yes, I used the seeds, core, and even the stem ends on some. Others where the stem and end looked a bit abnormal, these were cut off. The amazing thing about the hot peppers is the tissue thin walls, when compared with Bell and Banana peppers. Strange indeed. I would mix the peppers if I had the variety. Without any scientific basis, I think there are some ingredients in peppers that are good, other than the heat and the part that burns. Would like to see a chemical breakdown on peppers, if anyone has any information or links to this. I have always been a bit skeptical on most herbs because I feel they have been inadequately studied. Plus they are grown around the world in many soil types and a variety of conditions, drought, heavy rainfall, low sun, high sunlight, and you name it as to the growing conditions. Heavy rainfall will result in lower concentration of nutrients, flavors, and minerals. Low water makes greater concentrations. Poor nutrients in the soil has its effects also. Where does this leave us? Guessing as to quality. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne Tincture Methods
You may have spoiled your peppers by attempting to dry them. Need to keep the peppers from touching each other, or anything else. Air needs to circulate to remove the moisture. Low heat (95-100F, not in direct sunlight) is preferred over high heat as the outside may dry but the inside still contain moisture and eventually get mold on the inside. Hanging peppers or threading them with string. Just the heat from a oven's pilot light (gas) is all that is needed. Plus a few days. The dried pepper should be thoroughly dried. Should be crisp and brittle. You can tincture fresh cayenne. Fresh herbs are usually tinctured at a 1:2 ratio. (dried herbs at 1:5) where one part herb :equals 2 parts solvent There are different opinions on using alcohol, vinegar or water and salt on preparing cayenne. But drying cayenne or other peppers have the same standard and procedure. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 5:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCayenne Tincture Methods Thanks to Dan, Kasper, and Everyone of the ideas on Cayenne Why is everyone so against a little alcohol? A little alcohol is good for you. Cayenne tincture should be made with alcohol. You can make it yourself with 80 proof vodka and cayenne or fresh (hot) peppers. The Everclear I had in stock was 180 proof ( 85 % ). I had to purchase one more bottle, $ 15.00 per fifth. All they had was 180 proof. In July a few friends picked all their excess peppers and gave them to me. I placed them in a greenhouse in metal pans for about 10 days. The idea was they would grind or chop better if dry. I chopped the complete batch. They were still too moist and sticky to grind into a powder or very small particles. I simply placed this into pint jars and covered with Everclear. The jars were about 65 to 70 % full so I covered with the Everclear. A few days later the pepper material had swollen up a bit so I made another pint jar for a total of 4. About then I read something about 50 % alcohol so I added about 2 ounces of distilled water instead of more Everclear. I also read brew times that ranged from 15 days to 60 days. More confusion. I also talked to a few people that has made the Tincture and got different data. I left the jars on the cabinet and did in fact shake them several times per day. After near 30 days, I did not detect the strength I wanted. At this time, I added 1 heaping TBS of Cayenne Powder to each jar. At a later date, about 45 days, I still did not detect the strength of the bought Tincture so I added another heaping TBS of Cayenne powder. The total time is approaching 60 days now. The strength is getting better. In the absence of an instrumentation test, I add a specific number of drops to 4 ounces of water and compare the taste and heat to the bought Tincture. The taste of the tincture I am making is not as strong in flavor as the purchased Tincture, but the heat and bite is getting close. I am thinking of straining and bottling one pint after 60 days and may leave the other 3 pints another few weeks. I still feel my alcohol per cent is a bit high even after adding a few ounces of distilled water. I may have done a few things differently if we had this thread two months ago. The cost of the Health Food Store Tincture is about $ 120.00 per gallon. The cost of the home brew Tincture is about $ 6.00 per pint, mostly the cost of Everclear. Any ideas, suggestions, or criticism are welcome. Next time, I may use all cayenne powder. It is very reasonably priced. Wayne If fresh peppers, cut them up and put in blender container, fill empty space with vodka and blend (just enough vodka to cover). Put in a jar and shake up every day for a week or so and then strain. You can do the same thing with the ground dried cayenne but you may need to use a different gage for filling with alcohol (add vodka to cover and go above the cayenne by one third of the volume for example, I mean add more vodka). Make it strong. Just don't be drinking more than a couple of droppers full at a time, or more than a shot... ;-)) One MD (David Williams) is recommending drinking one or two cups of Irish coffee at the first sign of a heart attack... Richard Schulze (I think it was) recounts a story of an herbalist throwing a pinch of cayenne in his own eye at the start of a lecture to prove that cayenne wouldn't harm the eye. It didn't. With this in mind and some experience using lesser doses of cayenne in an eyewash I decided to test the theory. I threw a large pinch of cayenne into my eye. I really wished I hadn't for about 20 minutes, it really hurt. After that the eye was perfectly fine. Half vinegar and half alcohol is used to make a tincture of lobelia. Dan -Original Message- From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, August
RE: CSCayenne Tincture Methods
The Dispensatory of the United States of America. Tinctura Capsici Concentrata is prepared by macerating 4 ounces of capsicum in 12 fluid ounces of rectified spirit for 7 days; then filter. King's American Dispensatory A preparation made by adding 1/2 ounce of powdered capsicum and 2 drachms of salt, to 1/2 pint each, of vinegar and water CLINICAL HERB MANUAL by MICHAEL MOORE Capsicum (all) Pods (Cayenne) 1:5, 95% alcohol Vinegar (in the form of acetic acid) is a classic and respected solvent. Salt is often added to foods to retard spoilage. Cayenne has a respectable percentage of oils which may act as a preservative as well. I have never seen cayenne spoil. Tabasco Sauce (vinegar + salt) I have never seen mold on although I have seen the color turn brownish from age. I believe cayenne may be light sensitive. You could also tincture in cayenne in Jack Daniels Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: laquerenci...@sbcglobal.net [mailto:laquerenci...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 1:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCayenne Tincture Methods Thanks Ed for the information on how to prepare cayenne. I'd appreciate hearing about the options using vinegar and water/salt for tincturing. I'm hoping a couple of non-alcohol quarts of such tincture could be kept in the fridge to prevent spoilage. DByron -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne Tincture Methods
As an after thought after chopping peppers, etc be careful with where your fingers go, The best antidotes to any burning are dairy products such as milk, yoghurt and ice cream. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne
According to Schultz, pepper when added to water and taken orally is immediately taken up by the mucous membrane and salvia reacts instantly. The stomach begins preparing for the food versus a capsule which just unexpectedly opens suddenly in the stomach giving what Shultz describes as a punch in the stomach. Makes sense to me. additionally items in the stomach only have so much time to digest before they are passed through. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:59 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCayenne Ed Kasper wrote: You can make your own Cool Cayenne by adding 1 part peppermint or ginger to 1 part Cayenne. Cayenne especially in capsules (which Schulze said were worthless) may irritate the stomach so a common combination was adding peppermint or ginger which abate stomach distress. Cayenne's only side effects are nausea and vomiting I bought some cayanne capsules, and when I take them I certainly feel the heat, so I am not sure why they would be labelled useless. The way that you build tolerance to cayenne is to start with a 1/4 teaspoon cayenne in water 3x a day, next day 1/2 teaspoon of cayenne, and so on until you are up to 1 teaspoon of cayenne in water 3x a day, with meals. If you are sensitive to cayenne, just take it slower, 2 days at 1/4 teaspoon, and so on. If I feel some nausea coming on, I just take a little ginger or peppermint as an antidote and that stops it. The cayenne capsules are pure cayanne powder in a gelatine capsule, and I take it with water, so I don't understand how this would be different then taking the powder with the pepper. The only difference is a minute quantity of gelatine. Marshall Still think combining Cayenne and CS would be a good idea. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSore Knee
Sore Kneetrampolines are great, Got my kids (age 3 and 9) a inflatable Bounce House. Geez, do they have the energy. wish I could recycle that :)) Even just standing and raising your heels off the floor a few times, helps. Raise your hands over your head, shake and lower. The lympathics are motion based so most movement would be helpful. CS would also help as its made with distilled water, which helps leech all those stored toxins in the lymphs. The best idea is a massage from a good friend. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net [mailto:oldgl...@bigcountry.net] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 5:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSore Knee Hi, I understand jumping on a small trampoline will help with lymph drainage. Jean Brain damage from the Lyme Disease. CS stopped the bug, but after 6 years of the little devils, I have permanent damage. sigh...Sure wish I could get rid of it. Brushing the skin doesn`t work, nor has anything else I`ve tried. It isn`t the circulation or the nerves, it is lymph building up. Of course if I lost a bunch of weight that might help... Marshalee
RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency
When doing these home tinctures, alcohol most of the times refer to vodka. Most alcohol content is listed in proof as in 80 proof. which means that 80 proof equals 40% alcohol by volume. 40 proof is 20% alcohol. Proof equals 1/2 alcohol . As a preservative different herbs may call for different percentages alcohol. I am not sure what percentage cayenne calls for, but I'm pretty sure only needs 10-20% by volume alcohol. Also as Tabasco and others only use vinegar (acetic acid) is more economical but not as hot as alcohol. By question is what would the combination of Colloidal Silver and vinegar or alcohol be? Maybe CS as a preservative would not need anything else (but it does not seem to work that particular way. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency Wayne, I looked up how Richard Schulze makes his tinctures. His rule of thumb is that after the herb and the alcohol are blended together (in a blender) you let the solids, the herbs, settle. The alcohol should be showing above the level of the herbs, but only about half as much as the height of the herbs. That is, the alcohol above the level of the herbs should be 25% to 50% compared to the level of the settled herbs. This gives one strong tincture that will work... Dan -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTravel Kit Emergency Morning Linda, At 08:54 AM 9/1/2006, you wrote: I wonder if our old survival list still works? Is there a book I can get with this information, plus the other 9? We are getting ready to travel full-time, and I am trying to assemble the best possible medical kit to take along. As you can imagine, I have a few ideas and suggestions. I find things in my pantry that amazes me, that I do not even know how they got there. One is an Emergency Surgery Kit. Not sure everyone would need one of these. It looks like something a doctor or surgeon would carry when traveling light to another country.I suppose today it would make the owner a terrorist or he could not get it on the plane. Actually, I think anyone that flies has forgotten about survival altogether anyway. If you missed the publication by Dr. David Williams containing what he carries when he goes to other countries, I have a few copies. ( Hard Copy, not electronic Copies ) Likely you may find this on his website. I'm on my way to the health store as I finish this for the cayenne to start with (having now been convinced that Tabasco Sauce is only a poor cousin). I am making 4 pints of Cayenne Tincture. Not sure how it is going to turn out yet. more ideas later... Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne
Just dug out my old copy of Curing with Cayenne by Sam Biser featuring Richard Schultze. In the book Schultze states that any hot pepper will work, the hotter the better. (p119). As a herbalist I would have to disagree on the face value, except if the intention is solely for its heat value. Schultze is considered an authority on Cayenne, and has many followers so should be highly considered. That would mean that Tabasco sauce would have significant medicinals value, readily available and cheap. Plus IMO, a pretty reputable company. only problem I could see is that its not cayenne. Tabasco sauce and CS would make a valuable combination, maybe faster than Gardoade, H2O2, and DMSO. or maybe an interesting formula. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCayenne Ed wrote: Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different pepper. I'm looking at a bottle... Ingredients are: distilled vinegar, red pepper, salt. In my limited experience, red pepper has always meant cayenne. Poking around the www.tabasco.com site nowhere do they refer to the special variety of red pepper they grow as cayenne, and cayenne is only mentioned specifically in a listing of heat unit ranges, alongside of Tabasco. Don't know what it means. Maybe an e-mail to the company is in order... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne
You can make your own Cool Cayenne by adding 1 part peppermint or ginger to 1 part Cayenne. Cayenne especially in capsules (which Schulze said were worthless) may irritate the stomach so a common combination was adding peppermint or ginger which abate stomach distress. Cayenne's only side effects are nausea and vomiting The way that you build tolerance to cayenne is to start with a 1/4 teaspoon cayenne in water 3x a day, next day 1/2 teaspoon of cayenne, and so on until you are up to 1 teaspoon of cayenne in water 3x a day, with meals. If you are sensitive to cayenne, just take it slower, 2 days at 1/4 teaspoon, and so on. If I feel some nausea coming on, I just take a little ginger or peppermint as an antidote and that stops it. Still think combining Cayenne and CS would be a good idea. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne
Julie, I was just wondering if you cayenne extract was an alcohol based extraction or what solvent was used, maybe vinegar? any ideas? Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: julie martin [mailto:wolfp...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCayenne i believe this information and the use of cayenne saved my life when i had a heart attack. i used tincture of cayenne and continued to use it every few minutes until i felt better. i keep a bottle on hand at all times and never leave home without it. julie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne
Thanks Julie. I make a cayenne extract with my kombucha distilled vinegar (2% acetic acid). I use 180,000 HU. It has a tendency to fall out of suspension and has to be shaken. Even with the low percentage acetic acid it doe not seem to attract mold, but long term storage may be a problem. Tabasco Sauce uses vinegar and vinegar is extremely healthy for you especially compared to alcohol. I have also made kombucha mushroom tea using cayenne and comes out really spicy. Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different pepper. Lots of peppers are hotter than cayenne - some over 1,000,000 HU, so IMO, I don't think Tabasco would work. I seem to know a lot of folks who gobble down really hot peppers daily and they seem to have the same problems as the rest of people who don't eat hot peppers so cayenne must have special attributes otherwise Dr Christopher, Shultz, and others would have used even hotter peppers or simply Tabasco sauce. One thing I am leery of is the claim that cayenne scan/should be used in the eyes. I trained police for years in the use of pepper spray, as a matter of policy (and group pressure) I had to be pepper sprayed and it did knock me down with for what I thought was a long recovery time. Police pepper spray is simply capsicum oil (cayenne pepper) and water and pressure. maybe I should practice up for the coming events. In your opinion what would be the difference if one used vinegar instead of alcohol ? Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: julie martin [mailto:wolfp...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCayenne Ed, the two bottles i have are from different companies. one says neutral grain spirits (38%), distilled water. the other says extracted with 95%grain alcohol and distilled water. i also keep the powder on hand to make a hot tea with, which after you get used to it is pretty good. i try to buy the freshest available and the highest heat units. i would use the powder for any cut to stop bleeding and would reach for any form of cayenne before i took nitro. julie I was just wondering if you cayenne extract was an alcohol based extraction or what solvent was used, maybe vinegar? any ideas? Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ?
see http://www.happyherbalist.com/Morgellons.htm there are side by side pictures of the chemtrails and morgellions. Long list of Links to TV news cast showing the disease at the botoom. Ed -Original Message- From: Ken Nancy Bagwell [mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 6:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ? Ummm...how did this man come to this conclusion? Are there pictures? Or better yet, video or lab tests to back up what he is saying? He says this parasite moves. Well he must have video taped this. -Ken ccdirectt ccdire...@yahoo.com wrote: This is pretty long.They talk about Morgellons comming from cotton source. http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread7527.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
RE: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ?
Maybe it is the negative charge that helps. The Bentonite Clay is more astringent and draws whatever closer to the surface and the negative charge disrupts - rather than kills. The people I've spoken to did not say that it killed them just made them surface and offered relief. I assume once surfaced they could deal with them by plucking them off. http://www.happyherbalist.com/Morgellons.htm. There is a connection of Morgellons to those found in man-made chemtrails as well. Speculation goes all over and it is clear. People do have it. Allopaths are in denial. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ? OK, got a reply from the fellow I sent the CS to: - Hi Marshal: It seems to be about the same. The CS appears to retard it a bit but does not eliminate it. This stuff is pretty tough! Part of the reason for this may be that the CS is killing the microbes that the organism is farming for what ever purpose, but is not killing the actual nematomorph itself since it is a higher life form than a simple bacteria. Not really sure but thats my guess. -Cliff Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ?
Bentonite clay has helped in at least 2 people that I am aware of. One of those believes she got it from pampas grass seeds. I have talked to maybe a dozen people who believe they have this and their stories about the pain and suffering are the same, yet their beliefs in how it came about differ. Another person remains in the HUD Trailers from New Orleans and relates it a bite he received while in one of the trailers. MD's deny the relationship. All the people have been to doctors and feel like they are going crazy and there has been nothing western MD can do. It may be the negative charge of Bentonite that is responsible for its amazing detoxifying properties: http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=112 I believe CS has a negative charge as well, I wonder how the two combined would work. (Since one needs to mix water with the clay) more information http://www.happyherbalist.com/Morgellons.htm several links there on TV news stories Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: gailev...@cox.net [mailto:gailev...@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: ccdirectt Subject: Re: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ? Also visit www.lymebusters.com ge www.livingnow.net/gevans ccdirectt ccdire...@yahoo.com wrote: The Govt at first said it was a mental problem.They think they are infested with parasites. These thing crawl under the skin excrete some type of fiber.Lots of consperisy theories.G E cotton from 3rd world countries.Mutant smallpox/chickenpox. This has photos.Theres also a Morgellons forum on the Curezone site.Look at the photos first. http://curezone.com/ig/search.asp?myquery=morgellons Heres the Morgellons website. http://www.morgellons.org -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ?
Ruth , Bentonite Clay can be taken internally. It is also used to clarify wine as well as numerous uses. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: ruth strackbein [mailto:ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ? Hi! I have not heard of Morgellon's except on this site, but am interested in Bentonite Clay. My chiropractor would like me to use it in conjunction with another cleansing preparation, can't think of the name of it. I tried this for 1 week had a terrible time getting rid of it. So have not wanted to go on with it. Perhaps I should give it another try . My digestive tract is so sluggish anynow , and when all that gets backed up in there, too, it's a problem! any ideas? Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:52:33 -0700 Bentonite clay has helped in at least 2 people that I am aware of. One of those believes she got it from pampas grass seeds. I have talked to maybe a dozen people who believe they have this and their stories about the pain and suffering are the same, yet their beliefs in how it came about differ. Another person remains in the HUD Trailers from New Orleans and relates it a bite he received while in one of the trailers. MD's deny the relationship. All the people have been to doctors and feel like they are going crazy and there has been nothing western MD can do. It may be the negative charge of Bentonite that is responsible for its amazing detoxifying properties: http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD ProdID=112 I believe CS has a negative charge as well, I wonder how the two combined would work. (Since one needs to mix water with the clay) more information http://www.happyherbalist.com/Morgellons.htm several links there on TV news stories Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: gailev...@cox.net [mailto:gailev...@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: ccdirectt Subject: Re: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ? Also visit www.lymebusters.com ge www.livingnow.net/gevans ccdirectt ccdire...@yahoo.com wrote: The Govt at first said it was a mental problem.They think they are infested with parasites. These thing crawl under the skin excrete some type of fiber.Lots of consperisy theories.G E cotton from 3rd world countries.Mutant smallpox/chickenpox. This has photos.Theres also a Morgellons forum on the Curezone site.Look at the photos first. http://curezone.com/ig/search.asp?myquery=morgellons Heres the Morgellons website. http://www.morgellons.org -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFace to face with argyria...
Mike I agree whole heartily with your position. as well as your efforts to correct the problem, which I would like to hear more of. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 9:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFace to face with argyria... Dear group, In another thread David wrote: Don't assume that someone who looks grey has been taking colloidal silver. It's more likely to be caused by heart medication. I will be interested to see how prevalent use and abuse of that heart medication will become, versus the relative frequency of argyria in the next few years. The reason for my remark is a case of argyria I've encountered: I recently met a mature couple (in their late fifties or sixties, I believe) who both developed argyria over the last few years. He has classic generalized pigmentation quite reminiscent of Rosemary Jacobs, and she has less intense coloration, except for a mask-like area around her mouth and chin which is darker. What makes their case of special importance to us is the way in which they acquired their condition: In the run-up to Y2K they began making and drinking CS using the primitive three 9V batteries and salt recipe which was widely disseminated on Y2K web sites and discussion forums at that time. Unlike Stan Jones or other recent cases, they followed the instructions exactly. They didn't over-cook it or drink a glass of muddy sludge every day, but made exactly what the promoters of that recipe intended for them to make. While other factors, such as a deficiency in selenium or vitamin E or the use of caffeine, may have increased their vulnerability to argyria, the only real mistake they made was they followed those instructions and drank a glass per day for a long enough time -- and turned blue. So, as stunning as it is to confront a genuine case of argyria in the flesh, the real message is that the old pinch of salt recipe is now well *proven* to be capable of producing generalized argyria, AND there may be a lot more cases developing in the aftermath of the Y2K phenomenon, just like these folks' did. This is the reason for some of my recent comments urging us to treat every new argyria report with complete seriousness and an absolute absence of defensiveness. Although we as a group abandoned the pinch of salt idea in favor of pure silver in water at low concentrations much earlier than the rest of the alternative health community, other people are *still* promoting that primitive process to this day. As I see it our task is four-fold: * Continue our efforts to promote low concentration silver preparations made with fine silver and pure water only. * Advocate the concurrent use of low-dose selenium and vitamin E in conjunction with *any* silver preparation. * Study and further develop the already successful argyria treatment protocol to maximize safety while retaining effectiveness in reversing the condition. * Provide that information to everyone who seeks it, taking the lead in helping argyria victims treat themselves. I was able to explain to this couple what happened. Until I did, they didn't know it was the silver that turned them blue. I also mentioned the successes we've seen in reversing it, and I will do what I can to help them in the months ahead, if they are willing. So, as for David's observation, although the pharmaceutical companies have now produced a heart medicine that might turn people blue, I'm afraid the number of legitimate argyria cases which will emerge in the next few years may not leave us much to sing about. Please, tell me what you think? If you'd like to add to, correct, or endorse my thinking, send your comments along to the list. Discussion would be helpful. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSProbiotics
Debbie, they are live ferments and the only problem was you were over-fermenting. they are still good and healthy. I gave you my toll free number and other news groups to help you get started. Once live probiotic ferments get established they are easy and simple. Some people can not boil water without burring it so there are pills and capsules. The same experience may apply to CS. Some people do not trust making CS themselves. It is still possible to get live probiotics from one of the newsgroups and the facts are they are better than capsules or pills. Ed Kasper -Original Message- From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net [mailto:debbiegerar...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:49 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSProbiotics Purchased the Caspian Sea Yogurt from you Ed and twice it did not work and you would not answer my e-mails.no money back garuntee from this company either, I got ripped off!!!.debbie -- Original message -- From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net Try Kombucha, Kefir, Tibicos, Caspian Sea Yogurt all natural live probiotics simply to make at home and are cheap or actually free from many groups online. Do a google or search yahoo groups. Live probiotics - not capsules or pills ... works miracles for many Kefir and tibicos can be made in water, similar to Japanese water crystals, or with nut milk. CSY is made only with milk and Kombucha with sugar, water and tea. http://www.happyherbalist.com/how_to_kefir.htm http://www.happyherbalist.com/caspian_sea_yogurt.htm http://www.happyherbalist.com/kombucha_brewing_guide.htm free Tibicos http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction! =VIEWPR OD ProdID=50 live free and healthy Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:30 PM To: silver list; Georgia Subject: CSProbiotics Got some Natren Healthy Trinity probiotics for son who has irritable bowel. VERY expensive, but arrived with bubble wrap, cold pack, and totally surrounded with styrofoam. He's only used about 5 but says he has to quitit causes horrible foul gas. Anyone else had that problem? He's trying to wean himself off Immodium, it's been like he needs more and more now. Pat
RE: CSapricot seeds,milk based probiotics
Xing Ren, the Chinese herb, is the kernel of the apricot Try Chinese or oriental markets, cheap at Chinatowns herb shops about $10 pound. Paw-paw (papaya) also has a digestive enzyme function, The skin, fruit as well as the seeds all have beneficial actions. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: zeb caffe [mailto:jamaki...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSapricot seeds,milk based probiotics Marshall, I have seen apricot seeds sold in only one health food store in my town. I think you can buy them on line as it seems I have seen them on a web site before. If you need the name of the health food store, I would be glad to find out.Many stores will mail you their product for a small fee.The ones in the health food store came with some warnings I remember.I agree that the probiotics might be causing problems due to the milk aspect. I think that the natren brand also has a milk free product. If not, there are plenty other probiotics that do. Some probiotics also come with digestive enzymes included in the product which might be helpful with the digestion of the lactose. Thanks to everyone who helped with the emu oil question.
RE: CSapricot seeds,milk based probiotics
Carica papaya. Common Name:Pawpaw, Paw Paw, Papaw, Poor Man's Banana, Hoosier Banana, etc. (In Australia the tropical papaya, Carica papaya, is also known as Pawpaw). The one that grows through out the American southwest is considered toxic, this IMO, is due to the action of the enzymes. The toxic one has been used in conjunction with fermenting kombucha tea and taken as a cancer remedy (not FDA approved) and is mentioned in Harald Tietze Kombucha books as well as made popular by the Australia's Kombucha House (TM) . The entire fruit may be used. At any rate buy organic papaya at your local super market. and as Mark says grind the seeds. Ed Kasper -Original Message- From: Mark S. Siepak [mailto:bro...@gtcinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSapricot seeds,milk based probiotics Sorry, but Paw-paw is a native North American fruit, Papaya is from the tropics, and is the one with the digestive enzyme, papain, in the seeds. Dry and grind them in a pepper mill. -- The real trouble with this world of ours is not that it is an unreaonable world, nor even that it is a reasonable one. The commonest kind of trouble is that it is nearly reasonable, but not quite. Life is not an illogicality, yet it is a trap for logicians. It looks just a little more mathematical and regular than it is; its' exactitude is obvious; but its' inexactitude is hidden, its' wildness lies in wait --G. K. Chesterton ___ Mark S. Siepak bro...@gtcinternet.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSProbiotics
The separation is into what is called curds and whey it is not spoiled just over fermented. Either add more milk or reduce the time. And I stand by by offer of unconditional guarantee and you're money has been refunded. You need to address these issues directly with me. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist 417 Laurent St. Santa Cruz, CA. 95060 (831) 425-8801 toll-free 1-888-425-8827 http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net [mailto:debbiegerar...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:38 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSProbiotics Excuse me I wasn't over fermenting nothing Ed within six hours the milk separated. I know fully well how to boil water and know when I am getting shafted too by a company . I will make certain anyone who will listen will know you have a nasty attitude when it comes to customer support and you sure don't back up what you state on your web-site I also reported you to the BBB. And I am out fifteen bucks thanks to trusting you!!! debbie -- Original message -- From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net Debbie, they are live ferments and the only problem was you were over-fermenting. they are still good and healthy. I gave you my toll free number and other news groups to help you get started. Once live probiotic ferments get established they are easy and simple. Some people can not boil water without burring it so there are pills and capsules. The same experience may apply to CS. Some people do not trust making CS themselves. It is still possible to get live probiotics from one of the newsgroups and the facts are they are better than capsules or pills. Ed Kasper -Original Message- From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net [mailto:debbiegerar...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:49 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSProbiotics Purchased the Caspian Sea Yogurt from you Ed and twice it did not work and you would not answer my e-mails.no money back garuntee from this company either, I got ripped off!!!.debbie -- Original message -- From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net Try Kombucha, Kefir, Tibicos, Caspian Sea Yogurt all natural live probiotics simply to make at home and are cheap or actually free from many groups online. Do a google or search yahoo groups. Live probiotics - not capsules or pills ... works miracles for many Kefir and tibicos can be made in water, similar to Japanese water crystals, or with nut milk. CSY is made only with milk and Kombucha with sugar, water and tea. http://www.happyherbalist.com/how_to_kefir.htm http://www.happyherbalist.com/caspian_sea_yogurt.htm http://www.happyherbalist.com/kombucha_brewing_guide.htm free Tibicos http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction! ! =VIEW PR OD ProdID=50 live free and healthy Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:30 PM To: silver list; Georgia Subject: CSProbiotics Got some Natren Healthy Trinity probiotics for son who has irritable bowel. VERY expensive, but arrived with bubble wrap, cold pack, and totally surrounded with styrofoam. He's only used about 5 but says he has to quitit causes horrible foul gas. Anyone else had that problem? He's trying to wean himself off Immodium, it's been like he needs more and more now. Pat
RE: CSProbiotics
Try Kombucha, Kefir, Tibicos, Caspian Sea Yogurt all natural live probiotics simply to make at home and are cheap or actually free from many groups online. Do a google or search yahoo groups. Live probiotics - not capsules or pills ... works miracles for many Kefir and tibicos can be made in water, similar to Japanese water crystals, or with nut milk. CSY is made only with milk and Kombucha with sugar, water and tea. http://www.happyherbalist.com/how_to_kefir.htm http://www.happyherbalist.com/caspian_sea_yogurt.htm http://www.happyherbalist.com/kombucha_brewing_guide.htm free Tibicos http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD; ProdID=50 live free and healthy Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:30 PM To: silver list; Georgia Subject: CSProbiotics Got some Natren Healthy Trinity probiotics for son who has irritable bowel. VERY expensive, but arrived with bubble wrap, cold pack, and totally surrounded with styrofoam. He's only used about 5 but says he has to quitit causes horrible foul gas. Anyone else had that problem? He's trying to wean himself off Immodium, it's been like he needs more and more now. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScomment and report on control experiment, was Re: CS Science Project
Yes mostly water but swimming about in that is mostly bacteria, yeasts and other microbes. These other life forms actually make up a greater percentage of our body that our cells. just a thought Ed -Original Message- From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net [mailto:debbiegerar...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and report on control experiment, was Re: CS Science Project You are what you think about since we are what about 90% waterdebbie
RE: CSBromelain
Heel produces two Homeopathic products that in studies show have been as effective as prescription drugs. look up ZEEL and TRAUMEEL. http://heelinc.com/ Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 7:15 PM To: silver list Subject: CSBromelain I don't remember hearing any of you recommending bromelain. It helps take antibiotics into the diseased cells, so I wonder if it would also help with colloidal silver. I started it a few weeks ago. I think it helps my knee recover faster from overuse and have less pain when resting. It has an anti-inflammatory effect, but still isn't as effective as Celebrex which I still take one of per day. http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:E51pco4PyeUJ:www.thorne. com/altmedrev/fulltext/bromelain1-4.html+bromelainhl=engl= usct=clnkcd=1 Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCaspian Sea Yogurt...
Debbie, We got your email yesterday (05/18/2006 10:16 AM) and shipped the replacement out the same day. You should have gotten an email from me and the postal service with the Delivery Confirm: 420495259101805213907140461828. We also have a toll free number posted on our site. One difference (and why I am responding to you here) is that the email in your initial order was devorah...@. - www.HappyHerbalist.com -Original Message- From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net [mailto:debbiegerar...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:50 PM To: Unknown Subject: CSCaspian Sea Yogurt... Has anyone else from this list tried the CSY from Happy Herbalist, I bought the starter from this site and it came slightly leaking from the package and I followed the directions to make it, even organic milk, and it separated within six hours and it is not supposed to, tried it again and it separated again, I have sent several e-mails of concern to eddly and am getting no replyanyone else have this problem? thanks debbie
RE: CSCS and emergency drinking water
MessageI put aside an old water bottle once that still had a small amount of water left in it. Some time later I saw it and looking closly I notice green algae in it. The water was from a commerical water distiller where I used to get my glass bottles filled. The guy said it wasn't uncommon and said to just rinse with some biodegradable stuff he had. The glass bottle was one of those 5 gallon glass bottles of the old days with a plastic pump on top. . Ed -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:56 AM To: 'cs' Subject: CSCS and emergency drinking water Thinking about puting some Emergency Water away on shelf (distiled water from my distiller). Water would be in 2 to 3 gallon containers. How long would it last with a little CS in water. Also thought about cleaning some pennies and melting a drop of pure silver on one side and then putting one in each jug. Would the silver coated penny affect the dringing water, in long or short term. Bob
RE: CSProbiotic Question
Mother of vinegar is available at most beer and wine hobby shops. Takes several months to make. Kombucha only takes 1-2 weeks. see http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATSCategory=3 that is my own web site. where I sell everything for the kombucha enthusiast. A non-commercial informational site is http://users.bestweb.net/~om/~kombu/starts.html Brewing Kombucha Pictures online http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm Enjoy Your Health, Ed Kasper L.Ac. California Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist www.HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: kskiefe...@aol.com [mailto:kskiefe...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSProbiotic Question In a message dated 5/5/2006 12:06:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, edkas...@pacbell.net writes: Mother of Vinegar and Kombucha are Different. may look very similar. does anyone know of where to get starters of either of these? Karen
RE: CSProbiotic Question
If you are interested in kombucha mushroom tea then I don't recommend that place - only because they recommend using apple-cider vinegar which is definitely a no-no. Apple cider is along the lines of mother-of-vinegar and is a different species of yeasts and bacteria than kombucha. These are naturally occurring yeasts ands bacteria in apples and do make an excellent health drink but it is not kombucha mushroom tea. for a full analysis of what constitutes kombucha mushroom tea see my site http://www.happyherbalist.com/analysis_of_kombucha.htm as a note many people give kombucha away just like other probiotics (kefir and tibicos) don't be afraid to ask, you may be surprised what your neighbor is doing. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSProbiotic Question http://www.earthcalls.com/kombucha/page5.shtml#Price I have no idea if this is a good place, and I've never had the tea before either, but when I was searching, this site was much less expensive than the other that I found. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWD 40 Warning
JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed. People and good intending folks should freely hear and discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below. I can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the Off Topic list. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSProbiotic Question
Mother of Vinegar and Kombucha are Different. may look very similar. Both are extremely healthy. Mother of vinegar and kombucha have the same bacteria different yeasts. Mother of vinegar uses predominately an anaerobic (without oxygen) yeasts and kombucha yeasts are aerobic (with oxygen) yeasts, One yeasts grows by fission one by budding. Mother of vinegar takes months, kombucha 1-2 weeks. Mother of vinegar usually over 4% acetic acid with a pH 2.5, Kombucha acetic acid 2% and a pH 3.0 less leaching better tasting. Different acids and nutrients are formed. Kombucha while being acid pH 3.0 is an alkaline-forming food and will (according to Dr Barefoot) balance one's pH. You can test the results yourself using pH strips. Usually within 30-60 days. According to German researcher (Guenther Frank) alcohol over 20% [or Colloidal Silver) will kill the yeasts and bacteria yet kombucha still produces some amazing health benefits therefore the health benefits are often attributed to the acids that are produced. Helps a lot of people especially with fatigue and mobility. Ed Kasper LAc. Santa Cruz, CA -Original Message- From: Dennis Gulenchin [mailto:dgulenc...@mts.net] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:52 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSProbiotic Question Ed, Is there not a way of creating your own mushroom from the mother of apple cider vinegar? I remember reading about this procedure some time ago but not sure which list it was on. Dennis Ed Kasper wrote: two of the best non-commercial sites Dom's Kefir site http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html and the Weston A Price Foundation http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html Besides the sour kraut and typical fermented foods there's Caspian Sea Yogurt - which requires no cooking and is smooth and drinkable. Kefir again no cooking just straining which is a powerhouse and even my 3 and 8 year olds will ask for it! There's also Kombucha Tea (recommended by Dr Robert Barefoot/ Calcium Factor) KT is a longer ferment typically 6-8 days and produces a sparkling apple cider-like tea. How to make kombucha Tea at my site http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm. The best thing is that once you get started its really easily, and cheap to make your own. And there's a lot of help at the newsgroups. You may even ask for gift - as some of the members do gladly give starters away. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done From Ruth Strackbein From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com (Unknown) Subject: CSProbiotic Question Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 03:48:00 + Could someone be so kind to advise me on a good source of pro-biotic...their seems to be so much bad press on some of them I don't know who to trust...thank in advance debbie
RE: CSProbiotic Question
two of the best non-commercial sites Dom's Kefir site http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html and the Weston A Price Foundation http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html Besides the sour kraut and typical fermented foods there's Caspian Sea Yogurt - which requires no cooking and is smooth and drinkable. Kefir again no cooking just straining which is a powerhouse and even my 3 and 8 year olds will ask for it! There's also Kombucha Tea (recommended by Dr Robert Barefoot/ Calcium Factor) KT is a longer ferment typically 6-8 days and produces a sparkling apple cider-like tea. How to make kombucha Tea at my site http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm. The best thing is that once you get started its really easily, and cheap to make your own. And there's a lot of help at the newsgroups. You may even ask for gift - as some of the members do gladly give starters away. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done From Ruth Strackbein From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com (Unknown) Subject: CSProbiotic Question Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 03:48:00 + Could someone be so kind to advise me on a good source of pro-biotic...their seems to be so much bad press on some of them I don't know who to trust...thank in advance debbie
RE: CSLiver powder argument
My apology to the list Ed Kasper -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:18 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: rans...@atmc.net; edkas...@pacbell.net Subject: RE: CSLiver powder argument Let's see... Ed, seeming not to have read Bob's post well at all, makes remarks that contradict everything Bob said, starting with the clueless suggestion that it's the juices that Bob has already stated he's been using for a long while. Now, if I try hard, I can see that Ed's remarks *might* not be intended to be disrespectful and dismissive. Maybe the stuff is expensive. Maybe fresh organic calve's liver would be better. Maybe commercial meat products are produced very unsafely -- and *maybe* that applies to the product Bob is reporting on. I don't know. But starting with the erroneous remark about the juice and the tone of the rest, I can certainly see why Bob reacted badly... however disappointed I am to see it on-list. Bob: I'm taking a tablespoon in the morning chased with fresh squeezed grapefruit and lemon juice. I've been doing GJ LJ a long time so these effects are not from that. Ed: It may be that your kick in the pants is more from the fresh squeezed grapefruit and lemon juice (old folk remedy). All I know is you both need to cool down. I can't tell if there's some sort of bad blood between you two, but if there is, I don't want to see it here. Drop it now. Mike Devour Silver List owner DB, lets see; cross post, off topic use profanity insult another list mate yeah, you're doing well Ed -Original Message- From: ransley [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:06 PM To: The Silverlist Subject: RE: CSLiver powder Before you wrote that you should have read what I wrote- I've been doing the juices for a long tme and have never felt any uplift from them. Keep the criminal crap to yourself. If you don't like it, don't eat it. As for the chemicals, I know the difference and you can keep that to yourself as well. Go stick a needle in your own ass and let some hot air out. Sorry Mike, I won't do it again. DB -Original Message- From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSLiver powder It may be that your kick in the pants is more from the fresh squeezed grapefruit and lemon juice (old folk remedy). At those prices one may be better off buying fresh organic liver from your local market. And if you could get fresh organic calves liver you should be soon rocketing into space. Now a days commercial beef production (even in Brazil, et al) is criminal. The liver's function is to clean the blood of toxins and because commercial interests are chemically dependent the liver becomes a virtual wasteland - then add the powdered desiccated process or just maybe the kick in the pants comes not from the liver - but the concentrated chemicals passed through ... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLiver powder
It may be that your kick in the pants is more from the fresh squeezed grapefruit and lemon juice (old folk remedy). At those prices one may be better off buying fresh organic liver from your local market. And if you could get fresh organic calves liver you should be soon rocketing into space. Now a days commercial beef production (even in Brazil, et al) is criminal. The liver's function is to clean the blood of toxins and because commercial interests are chemically dependent the liver becomes a virtual wasteland - then add the powdered desiccated process or just maybe the kick in the pants comes not from the liver - but the concentrated chemicals passed through ... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: ransley [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 6:50 AM To: The Silverlist; beck-n-st...@yahoogroups.com; n...@yahoogroups.com Subject: CSLiver powder I can't remember where this subject originated from so I'm posting it to three groups. This week I rec'd and started taking Powdered Desiccated Argentine Beef Liver from: http://www.mikebrownsolutions.com/livering.htm What a kick in the pants! Where has this stuff been all my life? After the second day I could tell an enormous difference in my fatigue level- as in no fatigue nearly all day long. I'm taking a tablespoon in the morning chased with fresh squeezed grapefruit and lemon juice. I've been doing GJ LJ a long time so these effects are not from that. It tastes NASTY, the nastiest tasting stuff I've ever choked down. Kelp powder is sugar and kefir is a milkshake beside this stuff. You'd better get some breakfast on top of it right away to keep from tasting it again. Never take it within two hours of milk or dairy, and you can mix it into a fruit juice smoothie, but I just prefer choking it down and getting it over with. I put it in my mouth, then swirl the juice through my mouth until it's all wet before swallowing; mercifully, the liver powder doesn't clump or get gooey. The acids of GJ LJ overpower most of the nasty taste. Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLiver powder
Hey DB must be the crap you're eating Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: ransley [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:06 PM To: The Silverlist Subject: RE: CSLiver powder Before you wrote that you should have read what I wrote- I've been doing the juices for a long tme and have never felt any uplift from them. Keep the criminal crap to yourself. If you don't like it, don't eat it. As for the chemicals, I know the difference and you can keep that to yourself as well. Go stick a needle in your own ass and let some hot air out. Sorry Mike, I won't do it again. DB -Original Message- From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSLiver powder It may be that your kick in the pants is more from the fresh squeezed grapefruit and lemon juice (old folk remedy). At those prices one may be better off buying fresh organic liver from your local market. And if you could get fresh organic calves liver you should be soon rocketing into space. Now a days commercial beef production (even in Brazil, et al) is criminal. The liver's function is to clean the blood of toxins and because commercial interests are chemically dependent the liver becomes a virtual wasteland - then add the powdered desiccated process or just maybe the kick in the pants comes not from the liver - but the concentrated chemicals passed through ... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLiver powder
DB, lets see; cross post, off topic use profanity insult another list mate yeah, you're doing well Ed -Original Message- From: ransley [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:06 PM To: The Silverlist Subject: RE: CSLiver powder Before you wrote that you should have read what I wrote- I've been doing the juices for a long tme and have never felt any uplift from them. Keep the criminal crap to yourself. If you don't like it, don't eat it. As for the chemicals, I know the difference and you can keep that to yourself as well. Go stick a needle in your own ass and let some hot air out. Sorry Mike, I won't do it again. DB -Original Message- From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSLiver powder It may be that your kick in the pants is more from the fresh squeezed grapefruit and lemon juice (old folk remedy). At those prices one may be better off buying fresh organic liver from your local market. And if you could get fresh organic calves liver you should be soon rocketing into space. Now a days commercial beef production (even in Brazil, et al) is criminal. The liver's function is to clean the blood of toxins and because commercial interests are chemically dependent the liver becomes a virtual wasteland - then add the powdered desiccated process or just maybe the kick in the pants comes not from the liver - but the concentrated chemicals passed through ... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite
Nenah, would this be the same as sproated oats? Ed -Original Message- From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite - Original Message - From: Trem To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: Re: CSsuper cure ? / Liquid Zeolite Nenah, I'm hearing about zeolite from a dealer of mine that's trying to get me interested in taking it as a substitution for chelation. I had 18 chelation sessions last year but didn't get what I wanted. Not sure whether CS interfered with the process. What is the recommended dosage, for what length of time, how often and finally...how much liquid is in each bottle? Thanks. Best regards, Trem www.silvergen.com Hi Trem. Each bottle is a scant 15 ml. My wholesale cost is abou $47.00 (this includes their shipping to me). Bottle lasts between 2 and 4 weeks, depending on how much you use. After learning how savagely mercury ruins the nervous system, I'd suggest that anyone who is mercury toxic to do a month or two of oat top tea to restore the nervous system BEFORE doing chelation -- it might save you money on the chelation product in the long run. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness
RE: CSCS and vinegar and ascorbic acid
Thanks for the advice. I am mixing CS with essiac tea along with vit C and with a kombucha tea extract (has a 2% acetic acid level) and wanted opinions on the combination. ed -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS and vinegar and ascorbic acid I add citric acid to CS that I sell for mixing into other ingredients as a stabalizer. That hopefully keeps the ionic portion of it from combining with other ingredients and precipitating out. Marshall Ed Kasper wrote: any opinions about the combination of these (CS and acetic acid and ascorbic acid [vit C]) thanks, Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS and vinegar and ascorbic acid
any opinions about the combination of these (CS and acetic acid and ascorbic acid [vit C]) thanks, Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp
So your allopath doctor tells you to go home and die. they say maybe a couple of months, but it goes on an on for 2-3 years. They give you all the morphine you want which does not stop the pain just makes you constipated and nausea. Now you can't even die in peace These people are not lazy. They are not drug addicts. They are our sick and dying. Good men, women and children. Hundreds of thousands - every year. And if it hasn't happened to someone you know - it will soon. Twenty-five years of medical research (University of Mississippi) and results are inconclusive Cancer kills ... the AMA, the politicians, the drug monopoly, the police, and those who look the other way make it cruel. There are thousands of good allopath doctors - real physician's - who do everything possible to make the quality of life the best that can be for their patients - including things that are illegal. You're arrested if you do, dammed if you don't. If you can't stand up for your family. You have nothing to stand for. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: lkfields [mailto:lkfie...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 6:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp I wasted (no pun intended) 5 years of my life smoking dope. It may not make you lazy but it sure does rob you of your drive. I found I was motivated to do nothing but look for the next joint. FINALLY after 5 years I suddenly realized THIS IS YOUR LIFE and if I didn't *do* something it would be my life for the rest of my years. I joined the Navy and kicked the habit. It was difficult to do. I am glad I left that lifestyle behind. Personally, I don't care if weed is legalized or not. People will find a way to get high (legal or not) of they are so inclined. Keeping it illegal doesn't stop it. Lori -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] ..it doesn't make people lazy, it gives lazy people something to do for an excuse. If it messes up someone who isn't lazy..like me..they just don't do it. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release
A drug search for ephedrine (the isolated ingredient of the herb ma/ ephedra, plenty of OTC products. So it is still out there. There is a warning on Sudafed that overdose makes you drowsy. But pop a handful and you'll get a buzz (so they say, I never tried it). You may be right and maybe ephedra was unadulterated compared to Sudafed but IMO, BOTH products were made by phamaucitcals (not by a herbalist). Here's a question. Drug Companies routinely produce many times over the number of legal prescriptions (or OTC sales) as the legitimate demand call for - including the free samples. They have been doing this for years. Why in a business sense would they continue to produce say 1,000 units when they can only sell or give away 100 units ??? Since OUR government has statistics on everything ... like how many eggs the average American eats per year, I wonder how many Sudafed's each American consumes (buys) versus how many Sudafed's (ephedrine) are produced each year. (Referring to previous posts) that answer will show that Senator Feinstein's (D-CA) heart is in the right place - depending upon who you're working for that is... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net [mailto:oldgl...@bigcountry.net] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release Hi, It is my opinion ephedra was competing with prescription speed/diet pills and therefore needed to be removed. Not because they were worried about anyone but because it was losing revenue for the pharma companies. It is all about money and they don't take kindly to anyone lowering their profits. Jean ** Although I've never heard it said (other than by me) it is my personal opinion that ephedra was banned in order to dry up an uncontrolled source of an ingredient which could be used to make crystal methadrine (speed)... Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSletter from officials
No politician is ignorant period ALL issues before Congress deal with money and politics is money. EVERYTHING in politics is scripted. Nothing said or done without a script. Even the paper and envelops are careful that when sent to a union official has the union label. Politics is the largest business in the world. Domination does not come from ignorance. Controversy fuel campaign income. Being either for or against brings in money. Therefore no politician wants to see resolution. How difficult or long does it take to pass one bill? Compare that to the ENRON bill - dealing with preventing the sale or transfer of 401Ks during the time of a companies internal audit, sounds good on paper - but fantastic for kevin levy (Eron CEO) who didn't want a run of the companies stock as employers wanted to sell off. The employees ended up losing everything as Kevin sold off his shares. THAT BILL passed within one week of introduction Oh, you must of missed that in the news ! Take for instance the town hall meetings filled with only those that are loyal. Nowadays even to get in you have to sign a loyalty oath. Debates pose no unknown questions. Answers are limited and restricted by prior agreements. Press conferences are not open. Ask the wrong questions - like Helen did regarding the Iraq war and where she was in the front row (she's been there for 40 years) she was sentenced to the back row and never got to ask another question. (till she repented). New stories are written and handed out to journalist who have sources and are praised/paid for their skills (!!) hey, and I ain't cynical I spent 10 years in Chicago politics (1970-1980) There ain't no silver lining . Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: David W Kenney [mailto:dr...@montrose.net] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSletter from officials I received an almost identical letter. It didn't say where the person stands on the issue. They indicate that they are interested in the health of the public so that cases like ephedra don't happen again. In other words they are for Codex. -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSletter from officials B. Boxer sent me a similar letter. This woman may actually be ignorant of the situation. After all, she spends her time on politics and little else. Staff writes those letters and briefs her on nearly everything, or so I understand. She has to lack knowledge. No one would knowingly make that statement about ephedra and attach their name to it surely. How embarassing. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp
D'ya tink that those who smoke the hemp and complained of cotton mouth upset the cotton growers so much that they (the cotton growers) went on a rampage . ed -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 5:19 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp I still have several copies of Jack Herers book The Emporer Wears No Clothes from when I went on the Hemp Tour promoting the thousands of proven and traditional uses of that plant. The story is there, quite well documented, chapter and verse. Email me privately if you want one. Virtually every bit of the info was gleaned from the Library of Congress. Hursts grandson publically apologized to the world. PS I don't smoke the stuff..it turns 'me' into a statue with cotton mouth and I have more interesting things to do, but I know hundreds of people who do, with no ill effects on their lives other than occasional 'cop-itis'. ..it doesn't make people lazy, it gives lazy people something to do for an excuse. If it messes up someone who isn't lazy..like me..they just don't do it. Ode At 01:47 PM 7/7/2005 -0400, you wrote: Guys-- do some reading on hemp and how it could replace millions of barrels of oil a day. WR Hurst did a real con job on the US. TJ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release
I believe it is important to note here that she points out specifically to the few deaths caused by dietary supplement Ephedra, to continue as the rationale to protect the people . Specifically in this case ephedra was a concentrated isolated standardized form of a common herb. This phyto--Pharmacia was used and promoted in a way in which the herb by itself would never be used for. Herbalist have always cautioned in its use and was not for long term use. IN EFFECT this phyto--Pharmacia ephedra was responsible for killing and injuring people and while the simple whole herb, ephedra - got the blame. How could anyone make such a simple mistake? . Just as if one took the simple herb foxglove isolated, concentrated and standardized it into DIGITALIS it would be a drug and it as all drugs would kill people. Or where making a simple tea from the simple herb St John's Wort be as effective as the Anti-depressive drugs (and without side affects) yet when St John's Wort was concentrated isolated and standardized blamed on liver failure. YET there are no reported cases of the herb ma huang (ephedra) or the herb St John's Wort being associated with death or even injury !!! Where both Ma Huang and St John's Wort grow wild and may be made as a simple tea that offers relief quickly and affective it does take certain degree of expertise and expensive equipment to produce a concentrated, standardized isolation of a single ingredient. Then to market and promote such a product without any concerns of known reactions. ... .who would profit from such madness ... Ephedra - which was sold and marketed in Health Food Stores across the USA as a isolated, standardized concentrated extract was specifically promoted and marketed as a street drug. All those involved in this action knew it was speed. They also knew speed helped reduce the appetite (lose weight) and gave one lots of energy. It was also aimed at kids and ALL those involved in this knowingly were selling drugs. BTW, you can still LEGALLY BUY Ephedra at your local __drugstore__. Its over the counter (no prescription needed) Sudafed (and a few other brand names) Thank God, the PRESS and the Government protect the people... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL [mailto:f...@atlanticbb.net] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release Sen Feinstein should worry about the 100,000 plus deaths caused each year by the side effects of lawful and correctly prescribed medications. It is hypocresy to the nth degree! Frank - Original Message - From: Raine To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: Re: CSNATIONAL HEALTH FEDERATION - CAFTA Press Release Below is the response I got from my Senator. Not very heartening. Dear Mrs. : Thank you for writing to express your concerns regarding the Codex Alimentarius legislation proposed under the World Trade Organization (WTO). I appreciate the time you took to write. I understand your serious concern regarding this issue. As you know, the WTO is an international body which addresses the rules of trade between countries. At its heart are the WTO agreements, negotiated and signed by the bulk of the world's trading nations, which provide the legal ground-rules for international commerce. They are essentially contracts, binding governments to keep their trade policies within agreed limits. The availability of dietary supplements to the public is important, but it is equally important that these supplements do not put the consumer's health at stake. I believe that if we are to ensure the safety of those who consume dietary supplements, we must make sure that these supplements are not hazardous to their health. We cannot allow deaths, such as those caused by the dietary supplement Ephedra, to continue. Please know that I will continue to monitor the work of the WTO and be sure to keep your thoughts in mind as I do so. Again, thank you for writing. I hope that you will continue to keep me informed of your views and concerns. If you should have further questions regarding this or any other issue, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington, D.C office at (202) 224-3841, or visit my website at http://feinstein.senate.gov. Sincerely yours, Dianne Feinstein United States Senator http://feinstein.senate.gov Paula Perry wrote: This article explains the whole situation we are facing regarding CAFTA and CODEX. I am sending it because we all need to act quickly. CAFTA is in trouble. There is a slim chance it will not pass. Paula http://www.thenhf.com/newsflash_49.htm
RE: CSsilver toxicity
It would seem to me that the actual amount of silver does not matter. Most important would be the process of producing EIS or CS. The method and materials should be suspect and examined. It would also seem logical for the man to bring in an actual sample for testing as well as his material and equipment as the fault may lie anywhere. For example it may have been very poor grade silver ... Of course all this may have transpired and I apologize as I am getting in late on this discussion. -Original Message- From: Michael Redecke [mailto:gammaparti...@yahoo.de] Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 8:33 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSsilver toxicity Hello Matthew ! concerning a 38 years old man with argyria: Matthew wrote: .The dosage was 450ml of 450ppm CS taken 3 times a day for 10 months. That concentration of 450ppm seems odd. EIS made with DW does not come close to 450ppm. the electrolysis process self-limits by going into saturation, generating precipitates or floating elemental surface crust, long before 450ppm can be reached..snipped -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: CS Gel making
Can you explain how you make your CS gel using Knox gelatin. thanks Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: angel nest [mailto:angelzn...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 9:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: CS Gel making why not use simple, (i think natural !), knox gelatin (for food consumption - so, it's got to be pretty clean in terms of source, right? instead of all these things that sound like synthetic something or other... plymer, triethanolamine... what are these things - actually ? i use knox gelatin for my face masks weekly. or for a weaker cs gel product, how about mixing in a bit of very high ppm with a bit of aloe vera gel? any thoughts? angel
RE: CSMesosilver
Mark, please speak up, can't hear you ed -Original Message- From: Cavena8 [mailto:cave...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 11:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMesosilver email correspondence regarding this issue can be addressed to cave...@yahoo.com Thanks, Mark --- Ron r...@core.com wrote: Hummm, wonder what this is all about? The information we are seeking will be used in a complaint against Purest Colloids,Inc./Frank Key in an action being drafted by our attorney to be filed in Oregon Court. If you or someone you know has had Mesosilver delivered to an Oregon address please let us know. I thank you for any information you may be able to provide in this matter, Sincerely, Mark Cave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWater Ionizers / Alkalizers
http://www.nutech2000.com.au/prod97.htm their page didn't show up and its an old link here was some of the info I saved. How to make Oxygen Rich Ionised Alkaline Water? The Water Activator In the centre of the tank, a semi-permeable membrane divides it; the membrane is sealed around the edge in order that water cannot leak between sections. Each half of the tank has a small valve or tap to permit the appropriate water (alkaline or acid) to be drawn from its section of the tank. Each half of the tank is filled with fresh clean water and then a direct electric current of low voltage is applied across the iridium plates. Depending on the conductivity of the water, after about one hour, the water in each half of the tank will be found acid on one side and alkaline on the other. The water in the side with the anode (electrical positive electrode), is the acid water, the side with the cathode (electrical negative electrode), is the alkaline water. The time span the activator needs to fully divide the water depends on the minerals in the water. Distilled water has no minerals at all and is not suitable for the production of acid and alkaline water. The same is the case with R.O water. Tank water from a plastic tank could be a problem, since there are not many minerals (only from air pollution and bird droppings) in the water. However, tank water from a concrete tank could be found to have many minerals, which is calcium due to lime leached out. Some water could need several hours to separate to the highest possible reading. Measuring the pH, during the ionisation process is the only way to find out how much time a certain water needs to be fully activated. Please note that electronic pH meters should not be used in water under current. You have to switch the unit off for a while before testing the pH level. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: SJY [mailto:youngst...@konnections.net] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:38 PM To: Silver List Subject: CSWater Ionizers / Alkalizers Folks, I would appreciate anyone who has experience drinking alkaline water, produced by a commercial or home-made water ionizer, sharing their results. From what I read on the web, they are constructed something like a CS generator, but have a permeable membrane to keep the acid and alkaline water separated, the electrodes are typically titanium, and they cost a lot - over $500 usually. I suppose if one used silver electrodes, one could have the benefits of EIS as well as high pH water. Might this be the next advance in CS generators? Does anyone have plans for building one? Has anyone built their own, and if so, what are your results? Terry Chamberlain posted a website that had plans for one, but it was not a flow-through version, and I think there should be simpler designs and construction methods. Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBody pH
Yes. Since minerals are basic ground up rock. There may be lead and especially aluminum in most everything. There is aluminum and lead in common everyday foods. And if its not listed on the label those may be in trace amounts that are not required to be listed. According to most Coral Calcium (and Calcium) labels you'll see many metals listed. What the net effect of those are, are subject to speculation. Most (if not all) intervention at this time - the purpose for taking any supplements - must be weighted for the outcome potential. I strongly argue that all intervention should be of the shortest term possible and the focus is to restore the body's natural balance where intervention (supplements, herbs, CS, etc) is not needed. There are many avenues to adjust your body's pH. Calcium.being just one. Kombucha, lemon water, alkaline water, homeopathic remedies, to name a few. Diet and lifestyle is the single most contributing factor. Generally any long term intervention - cal/mag supplements - does not treat the root disorder. They may be recommended for the immediate short term, but focus should not be taken off searching for the root cause: why are supplements necessary. That does not negate that supplements may be necessary. The same should be said about CS. Most on this list seem to be of the opinion that in __acute crisis stage__ massive doses in as direct contact as possible for as long as possible would be the prescription. Once the distress has been eliminated very small and indeed they are very very small doses are administered as preventative. Where the affliction is seen as __chronic__ then slightly higher yet far lower doses are recommended. All the while when on a maintainace dose people are watching and looking for possible side affects or possible symptoms from long term use. Cases, of course, are judged independently, but generally that is the universal approach to health. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:25 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH Ed, A Local homeopath here, syas that ALL calcium supplements contain some lead. Have you heard this? I'd sure like to know, as I take cal/mag supplements. Sally
RE: CSBruises
don't forget the body. Thats following behind. Intention, Energy, Body. Not always last. But look what happens when the body goes first!! trauma in one nano-second. Where there may be an 'out of body experience, as if watching your experience as an observer. Or a feeling of everything in slow motion - then the impact - bang - and you're back. Or it never happened. Or better, how could it have happened. Maybe thats where Einstein came up with his Space-Time theory and opened up Quantum and String theory. You know maybe it all just started when Newton got hit with an apple, Einstein flew off his bicycle and Niles Bohr (spelling!) did or didn't do something but intended to. Unification of Mind, Body and Spirit, attempt to live (or be alive) in the NOW. Reality may only be exist when our perception of it (finally) creates it. Says a lot for denial. See Bush is really not bad when you're in denial ... (did I get ya?) Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:04 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBruises From a Taoist perspective, Chi follows Yi, Blood follows Chi. That is, Chi (or life force energy) follows Yi (the mind, or the mind's attention). The attention, Chi, and the circulation will also go to the place which is lightly touched or rubbed. This may very well help heal the trauma... Dan Re: CSWarning for LV CS http://www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79056.html From: sol (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:05:35 This may seem really weird to ask but are you experimenting by hitting yourself? Just curious, as I have noticed a strange phenomenom on myself, it is that if I crash into something hard, and am really busy, and sort of therefore pay not much attention or quickly forget I bruised myself somewhere I get a bruise, sometimes a big bruise appears and I can't remember hitting into anything at all. If OTOH, I notice immediately, and put my concentration on the spot I have hit, (so to speak, but I mean if I really have time to notice) rub the spot, and think I'm going to have a big bruise, no bruise ever forms (or ever comes to the surface to be seen). I have always wondered what the heck the mechanism for the two different outcomes of a big bump could possibly be other than a strictly mental control over the bruising process. Unless it is the rubbing of the sore spot, vs not rubbing it? sol Sandee George wrote: I have observed the following and would like all to hear from you all your different perspectives : Why is it when I hit any part of my body, not drawing blood, that by using C.S. thereon by applying a soaked pad of it - there is practically no bruising or inflammation - this interests me - thanks Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBody pH
I had used the TRC brand (which I sell SR $24.00 120 tablets for 30 day supply. I was taking 2-4 times the recommended allowance. Calcium: High Grade Marine Coral 2,000 mg, Magnesium 250 mg, Vitamin D 400 IU, Vitamin C 60 mg, MSM 250 mg, Plus 75 chelated minerals and 100% RDA of all vitamins A-Z . Thats why even at my wholesale price it still cost me a lot more than buying a bottle of 1,000 capsules of plain Calcium (at COSTCO) for $10. There is nothing wrong with either brand. Both are exactly as they state on the labels. But. Robert Barefoot (Calcium factor) states that one can take mega-doses of Coral Calcium without possibility of calcium poisoning. Which I still believe is true. But not calcium derived from shell fish or the more common calcium (carbonate - chalk) . That's when the gout struck. Stopped immediately and 3 weeks later my gout was gone. Tried (COSTCO CALCIUM) again a few months latter and bang right to the big toe. Stopped (COSTCO CALCIUM) and relief. Latter tried the TRC Coral calcium and no problems at higher doses. So that made a believer out of me. This was about 2-3 years back and Coral calcium was really popular and selling for a lot of money. About 10-$20 more than I was selling it at. Prices are very competitive now. I would suggest if you want to take calcium use a respected Coral Calcium brand. Most are reasonably priced now. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH Thank you for answering my post. What are the mg.of the coral calcium tablets you are taking and how many do you take and when?? Thanks mary -- Original message from Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net: -- No, I was OK taking high doses of CORAL calcium and had no problems. I got gout when I switched to regular calcium (calcium from shell fish - not coral calcium) and got gout. It depends upon the type of calcium. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH On another post you mention that you took higher dosages of coral calicum for gout. My husband has gout please advise!! Mary
RE: CSWas: Body pH, Now: Kombucha Tea
Yes. simply use a filter. Cheesecloth works well and you can add as many layers as you have patience for.. You can use a metal prefer plastic filter and a large funnel. Suggest then bottling using a plastic water bottle. Fill to the brim, and give a squeeze to remove all the air and then cap. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSWas: Body pH, Now: Kombucha Tea In a message dated 3/27/2005 11:07:21 AM Central Standard Time, edkas...@pacbell.net writes: Coral Calcium plus Kombucha Tea balances the body's pH. Ed -- I have a question for you regarding Kombucha Tea. I tried Kombucha several years ago. Was very successful growing new mushrooms and creating the liquid. But had a very hard time drinking it because I could not completely free the liquid from *strands* of matter -- which would of course become another mushroom. When I'd come upon one of these, it made me gag. Consequently, I just gave up. Is there a way to get around this problem? MA
RE: CSBody pH
Personally when I used a Coral calcium in high doses I did not get gout. Then I switched to the huge bottle of Calcium (about 1/4 the price) which was from shellfish and I got severe gout. So I believe Coral Calcium which I can take does not flare up. I repeated this experiment (like a sadist) and regular calcium will cause a flare up for me. I don't feel the need to take any supplements at this time. I offer free ph test strips so people can test themselves. I'll out today but should have some in within the week. You and others are welcome to email me for the free samples email e...@happyherbalist.com with free samples pH strips in the subject line. No cost or obligation but we do send out product literature as well as tell you how to do the test (simple) . lemon water, apple cider vinegar (Bragg's organic) and Kombucha all work along the same lines. KT has more live stuff in it and IMO does much more. KT is a lot more work, although quite enjoyable. Really depends upon where you are in the big picture. I do not recommend taking any of the above at the same time as CS. I'd suggest they be taken hours apart. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 7:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH Question, my husband has gout do you think drinking this tea would help he does drink lemon water to balance the ph but we have not checked his ph levels simply because I have not gotten the ph test strips?
RE: CSBody pH
The ph strips are on backorder and should be here within a week. You get complete information with the free samples. really easy. Please contact me off list if you have questions. as this is off topic. The test strips are a promotion from a company I am associated with. No Charge. e...@happyherbalist.com with pH test strips in the subject line for free sample Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH I would like some ph strips but I would like to pay for them also information on how to use them. Thanks Mary -- Original message from Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net: -- Personally when I used a Coral calcium in high doses I did not get gout. Then I switched to the huge bottle of Calcium (about 1/4 the price) which was from shellfish and I got severe gout. So I believe Coral Calcium which I can take does not flare up. I repeated this experiment (like a sadist) and regular calcium will cause a flare up for me. I don't feel the need to take any supplements at this time. I offer free ph test strips so people can test themselves. I'll out today but should have some in within the week. You and others are welcome to email me for the free samples email e...@happyherbalist.com with free samples pH strips in the subject line. No cost or obligation but we do send out product literature as well as tell you how to do the test (simple) . lemon water, apple cider vinegar (Bragg's organic) and Kombucha all work along the same lines. KT has more live stuff in it and IMO does much more. KT is a lot more work, although quite enjoyable. Really depends upon where you are in the big picture. I do not recommend taking any of the above at the same time as CS. I'd suggest they be taken hours apart. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 7:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH Question, my husband has gout do you think drinking this tea would help he does drink lemon water to balance the ph but we have not checked his ph levels simply because I have not gotten the ph test strips?
RE: CSBody pH
No, I was OK taking high doses of CORAL calcium and had no problems. I got gout when I switched to regular calcium (calcium from shell fish - not coral calcium) and got gout. It depends upon the type of calcium. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH On another post you mention that you took higher dosages of coral calicum for gout. My husband has gout please advise!! Mary
RE: CSBody pH
According to The Calcium Factor by Robert Barefoot Coral Calcium plus Kombucha Tea balances the body's pH. I sell a lot of kombucha which is a very simply and cheap tea (pro-biotic) to make and enjoy at home. If you ask around you may find one at your neighbors and may get started for free. Just adding sugar and tea is all that's really needed. I put pictures up on my web site. http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm Kombucha is acidic, usually around 3.0. Like lemons. It is an alkaline forming food once it becomes part of the body's synergy. Some people make kombucha extract using alcohol - which kills the probiotics kombucha but leaves the acids (acetic and gluconic mostly) which they theorize is the catalyst for health. Now IMO, one could substitute CS for the alcohol. As both will kill the flora friendly kombucha, but not the acids and have a wonderful combination. Some people do this and monitor their pH via urine strips. Kombucha tea (alone without the CS) does begin to noticeable balance the pH within 30-60 days. many folks do both but at different times. live free and healthy, Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist member of the CS list since ... maybe 1999. seems I remember stuff about Y2K bug here. Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: SJY [mailto:youngst...@konnections.net] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:49 PM To: Silver List Subject: CSBody pH I have been reading some things that suggest as we age, our systems tend to become more acidic, and this in turn makes our systems more vulnerable to disease (e.g. cancer) and eventually death. Some advocate ingesting foods or other organic or inorganic compounds to shift one's pH to be slightly alkaline. Has anyone had any experience alkalizing their bodies? For example, is anyone having good results with a product called Alkaline Body Balance, or others like it, to mitigate cancer or other medical problems? To keep it CS oriented, I would assume there would be no harm in taking products to increase body alkalinity (e.g. potassium or cesium salts) along with doses of Colloidal and Ionic Silver. Comments? --Steve Y. (circa 2000 on the list) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: Homeopathic CS
Thanks all for the references. I'm just curious is all. I'll have to check into it more and see what their different potencies discriminate. Just for what you quoted below CS is still another breed. ed kasper -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Homeopathic CS Interesting thought. There are already several homeopathic silver remedies: Argentum Cyanatum (silver cyanide) Argentum Iodatum (iodide of silver) Argentum Metallicum (silver leaf and precipitated silver) Argentum Nitricum (nitrate of silver) You could look them up in the Boericke Materia Medica online, or the Kent MM online, etc to see if they are anything like what you would be aiming for by making a homeopathic CS. I just don't quite see what you would be aiming for? Since silver has been used homeopathically for a very long time, with provings already done? The link to the Boericke MM was just given, do you have the link to the Kent? I have one or two other MM links if you would like them, I haven't looked up any of the silver remedies in them. I usually go to Boericke first, then to Clarke, for more detail if needed. sol Ed Kasper wrote: Just curious as if anyone has done or thought about creating a homeopathic preparation of CS. I've played with going the other way. Of distilling the CS to create higher percentage of CS. prefer just the regular stuff. But I like to play around with things. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
wasn't the japanese communications code broken several months before Pearl. (purple code), why weren't the aircraft carriers there, and didn't US Pearl forces sink a miniature japanese submarine at the entrance to pearl several hours before the actual attack and notified washington. For my money the germans, japanese, english and american governments are all suspect. The only truth seems to be not don't trust those in power. But we should keep things on topic. remember the Golden Rule. dems that got da gold makes da rules. It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong. -Voltaire [Francois Marie Arouet] (1694-1778) Enjoy Your Health, Ed Kasper L.Ac. California Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist www.HappyHerbalist.com -Original Message- From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 6:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article What is your take on Pearl Harbor Albert? -Original Message- From: Albert Peirce [mailto:aepei...@cinci.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Most interesting that rense.com would publish a scurrilous article by Alex S. Perry impugning the Allies' efforts to defeat Nazism, Fascism, and Japanese expansionism in the Far East, and then shut down its site on the web so that no response could be made and read by anyone who originally responded to and read Mr. Perry's article entitled THERE WAS NO NEED FOR WORLD WAR II Any information about contacting these people would be appreciated. Regards, Al
CSRE: Homeopathic CS
Just curious as if anyone has done or thought about creating a homeopathic preparation of CS. I've played with going the other way. Of distilling the CS to create higher percentage of CS. prefer just the regular stuff. But I like to play around with things. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSacid/alkaline was, Re: CSThe water debate
Sol, Traditional Chinese Medicine, in fact, insists on a differential diagnosis. To achieve a correct diagnosis and prescription depends upon the uniqueness of the presentation i.e., the strength (condition) of the pathogen and the strength (condition) of the individual as just two concerns of many. TCM is certainly not one size fits all. The alkaline/acid differernation is viewed more precisely as a tendency towards yang / yin. Distilled water, is not dependable upon one individual metabolic type. rather viewed as one side in a many sided equation. The value of distilled water for me is that it is the only clearly defined variable in the equation. And water is in every equation. The individual can be viewed as best they can be it metabolic, acid, alkaline, yin or yang, or a big soup. water by itself may be the cure or the problem or tweaked by CS lemons herbs or drugs. always viewed case by case. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:49 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSacid/alkaline was, Re: CSThe water debate Whether any substance or food or vitamin or mineral is alkalinizing or acidifying depends on the metabolic type of the individual ingesting the substance. There is no one size fits all recipe for bringing a body into proper pH balance. Just like there is no one size fits all best diet or supplement regimen. This the problem with alternative medicine as well as with conventional medicine. Both rely on one size fits all diagnsois and treatment. sol Ed Kasper wrote: The process of adding silver to distilled water creates charged water. I believe lemon in distilled water does also. Can both be viewed as an alkaline/acid differernation ? Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe water debate
Would the potency of your alkaline water be better if you started with distilled water? Acid and alkaline are relative. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:04 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe water debate I am not convinced. I use filtered ionized water to drink. Unlike distilled water it is alkaline, which should help prevent me from becoming acidic, and contains a good bit of calcium, which I depend on for strong bones. But I do think it is certainly better than tap water with chlorine and fluorine and other garbage in it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe water debate
But you still do not know what is in the water you'll only know pH. As far as I know, municipalities do very limited testing. Its really a don't ask don't tell type thing. There are no test for pharmaceical drugs, recreation drugs, heroin or methadone. All these drugs that go into a persons body come out and go down the drain. For those that live in St Louis, MO they are downstream of Chicago!! BTW, the Chicago River is the only river in the world that flows away from a lake! (intentionally!!) Wouldn't distilled water (aciditic) become alkaline forming simply by adding a slice of lemon? The process of adding silver to distilled water creates charged water. I believe lemon in distilled water does also. Can both be viewed as an alkaline/acid differernation ? Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- No, it would be unchanged. When you start with tap water you have minerals, such as calcium, potassium and so forth, and the other ions such as chlorine, fluorine, carbonate. The ionizer separates these to produce an alkaline stream with the minerals such as calcium and potassium hydroxide, and an acid stream that contains the chlorine, fluorine, and carbon dioxide. If you start with distilled water, there is nothing to separate and send to the two streams, both would still be distilled water. Marshall Ed Kasper wrote: Would the potency of your alkaline water be better if you started with distilled water? Acid and alkaline are relative. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- I am not convinced. I use filtered ionized water to drink. Unlike distilled water it is alkaline, which should help prevent me from becoming acidic, and contains a good bit of calcium, which I depend on for strong bones. But I do think it is certainly better than tap water with chlorine and fluorine and other garbage in it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCSRe[2]: CSbook recommendation
Ode, just remember to change those filters once in awhile or they actually create a mo'dangerous condition. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: V [mailto:zon...@expo-net.org] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:25 AM To: Ode Coyote Subject: CSRe[2]: CSbook recommendation I think you'll find that the membrane system in the body is a highly intelligent reverse osmosis water treatment plant. If that is working properly, it doesn't matter what water you drink. Ode Would anyone know the darned truth about the issue surrounding spring water vs distilled/reverse osmosis. I'm getting conflicting information from various sources regarding this matter. Everyone seems to have their own take on it, including viable doctors in homeopathic medicine. There doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence supporting whether one is better then the other, unless I've been looking in the wrong places. Many thanks Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe water debate
Distilled water is the benchmark. All other water is impure as it contains something. maybe good maybe bad. When we want the good stuff to go in - the purer the water the freer to carry more of what we want into our body. Our cells gain the advantage of having more good stuff to choose from (osmosis) and the purer the water the better opportunity to dispose debris and toxins (osmosis) On both sides of the equatation (osmosis) equals leaching and this is exactly what we want. called homeostatis. balance. if you have xyz inside the cell you can not eliminate it by having xyz in the water or with no room for the ride out. Of course if you do not eat anything or plan to add anything into your body but distilled water I reckon you'd be turning yourself inside out until you simply vanished into a puddle in the night. Why is this not simple? Distilled water does not exist INSIDE our bodies. Or maybe thats where those MD's are right. Distilled water picks up all those cheeseburgers, fries and a coke on its way and distrubutes it all along its route and that - is a bad thing! Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: TC [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe water debate The statement Ernie made about there not seeming to be any real science behind the various claims about which water is better than which goes to the heart of the matter. Most everyone agrees that water that is full of chemicals or pathogens would not be good for you. After that, the controversy over which purification system is best and which form of water is healthiest rages on. When I studied Dr. Carey Reams' teaching, he explained that water is a carrier in our bodies, transporting nutrients throughout the body to the places they were needed, then carrying toxins and waste products to the eliminative organs to be disposed of. To accomplish this, he said, water was best utilized when it was empty. Indeed, he said, when we drink water containing various substances (minerals, chemicals, etc.), our bodies must first distill the water before using it. This metabolic distillation operation of our bodies is part of its defense system to remove and protect itself from substances it doesn't want, as well as prepare the water for its transporting function. This is also why distilled water doesn't leech minerals from our bodies, but just the reverse, our bodies remove the inorganic minerals from the water. I found this explanation to make a lot of sense, and, along with Reams' other teachings, are an integral part of my concept of the aspects of health. Other folks certainly have differing opinions, of course, but that's what makes it all so interesting! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS(Fwd) RE: CSThe water debate
Consider Saline Solution. a 1% saline solution, dissolve 1 g salt in 99 mL water. Different % can be made. Although water is not identified it is understood to be pure medically and scientifically speaking you want WATER to be 99.99% purity. That is the benchmark. That means almost universally that water is distilled which simply means as pure as pure can be. A saline solution stabilizes the body in an emergency such as blood loss. Water affects the blood volume as it does celleur contents. The affect on blood can be immediate and on celleur structure insidious. Water affects the pH systems of the body. the pH of urine, sweat, lymph, stomach, intestines, blood , different cells, are all different. To what degree of affect there is, is dependent upon the degree of purity of water in a specific encounter. What is needed for you - a specific unique individual may be different. But without a benchmark no one IMO, would be able to determine anything. The effectiveness of what goes in as well as that which comes out can only be determined when all the variables are know. CS can be determined to be effective because there is only silver and distilled water. Of course the effectiveness may be due solely to distilled water ! More than not it is probably due to the combination of the two. (or three: hydrogen oxygen, silver; as specific electrical charge (s) ) two studies that may highlight differences of water. Remember most bottled water contents unspecified amounts of salt and pure water Induced sputum: comparison between isotonic and hypertonic saline solution inhalation in patients with asthma. isotonic saline solution (0.9%) inhalation as a means to induce sputum by comparing it to hypertonic saline solution (4.5%) inhalation.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd =Retrievedb =Pub Meddopt=Abstractlist_uids=11742907 Wound Irrigation in Children: Tap Water or Saline Solution? http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040101/tips/17.html A total of 14 wound infections were equally divided between patients in the two groups, with no differences based on the method of repair. There was, however, a significantly increased risk of infection in foot wounds irrigated with tap water. The authors conclude that tap water might be as effective in preventing bacterial infection as sterile normal saline solution for simple wounds in children. The overall wound infection rate was 2.9 percent, which is comparable with other studies. There is an assumption that tap water is free of any significant pathogenic bacterial counts. Other potential advantages of tap water irrigation include the following: (1) decreased cost, (2) ready availability, (3) reduction in biohazard risk to health care workers, and (4) decreased patient anxiety because of the absence of a syringe from the procedure. The increased risk of foot infections in the group irrigated with tap water has uncertain significance and might not persist in a larger trial. Water, is our lifeblood. Opt for clean rivers, streams and oceans. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Are you saying that distilled water is better to drink as a rule, than ordinary filtered water? If this is so, then I could see why distilled H20 with CS would be able to get to the source more efficiently. Sally -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol
YES, it is being sold but that does not mean it is not banned or that the internet site (if American) can not be persecuted by the FDA. Specifically it is a federal violation to offer for sale __Red Yeast Rice_ with any links to any medical claim such as the university study that indicates Red Yeast Rice is as effective as any prescription drug. Under that set of circumstances the FDA will classify Red Yeast Rice as a New Drug and take legal action against that individual for selling drugs without a federal license. In all honesty, people are buying those products (capsules, etc) with the intent of lowering their cholesterol. BTW, not everything on the internet is legal. And it is not that several products are similar to. It is specially that all Red Yeast Rice. contain statin which is the identifier in all cholesterol lowering drugs. Again similar to the ban on the Chinese herb Ma Huang because it contains ephedrine. As does other herbs which may fall under the FDA ban as well. Although many pharmacies OTC drugs remain on store shelf that also contain ephedrine ! It is at the discretion of the FDA and who they choose to persecute. The problem with home users is that there is truth in what the FDA is saying. (I can't believe I'm saying that !!) It is dangerous to combine Red Yeast Rice with cholesterol lowering drugs. IMO, cholesterol lowering drugs - not Red Yeast Rice - that should be banned. But the combination is life threatening. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: George [mailto:in...@dragonbyte.net] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 5:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol Red Yeast Rice hasn't been banned. It is available from dozens of websites. However, several products made from Red Yeast Rice are currently 'banned' because they are similar enough to patented drugs that patent infringement lawsuits have been filed. That is all. Nothing too insidius. What are all ya'll going to do in August of this year when NONE of your dire predictions come to pass? (Can you say Y2K?) George From: Denise Every To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol There is some report on the internet (can't find it now) that stated the FDA banned Red Yeast as a university study found red yeast to be ___effective as drugs___ I did a quick search and red yeast rice is still being sold, I found it on multiple sites, Vitamin Shoppe being one. I did find an article on WholeHealthMD.com that mentions the FDA withdrawing it, it said, In 2001, however, red yeast rice extract, a natural unregulated nutritional supplement, was withdrawn by the FDA. This decision followed the agency's determination that it was chemically too similar to the prescription statin medication Mevacor, and thus should be classified as a drug, which by law is strictly controlled by the federal government. But I don't know what the date of this article is, the web site has a copyright date of 2000... maybe the FDA took some other action since and reversed its 2001 decision? Denise
RE: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol
There is some report on the internet (can't find it now) that stated the FDA banned Red Yeast as a university study found red yeast to be ___effective as drugs___the FDA there upon classified Red Yeast a New Drug and banned its importation. I emailed the FDA and never got a reply (that I know of). WARNING one should not take red yeast when they are taking zocor, etc as they effect will be too strong and side affects will happen. Do a web search under Distillers Grain and you'll find its used as livestock feed and being studied as an alternative to antibiotics etc. Healthier and more beneficial for livestock ... so the FDA bans it for human consumption. I think a google on Statin drugs will also show up red yeasts, or fermented foods. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Faye [mailto:fkill...@bayou.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:59 AM To: Lynda Khula; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRed Yeast Rice Cholesterol Lynda do some research on red yeast rice. It is supposed to be very good to lower cholesterol. Faye - Original Message - From: Lynda Khula To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:53 AM Subject: Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol I am sure in most cases this is true, but I have been taking zocor for the last 18 years and my good cholesterol count is horrible, I have had 3 attacks of pancreastitis in the last 15 years and my gal bladder removed on the last attack want to stop taking the zocor so am looking into different things, thanks for all the info I have now been told I have MSX I am now taking all the things mentioned here and then a lot more last count 23 different herbs, would like to cut it down to less Lynda
RE: CSTrace minerals supplement suggestions
here is an analysis of the Rockland Mines TRC minerals http://www.happyherbalist.com/collodial_analysis.htm they leech their minerals from shale rock at their Utah mine. Without chemicals or additives. TRC is also one of the main suppliers for various multiple level companies. the Suggested retail for their Body Booster 33.5 fl oz - 38,000 mg of 77 minerals is $24.95 I sell this stuff as well it is not multi-level marketing but they do have a Buyers Club (no fee's) where you get about 40 % off SR and free shipping with orders over $100. many times a local HFS will have this item as a leader and sell it at a loss around $15.00 Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Judydownmaine [mailto:apea...@adelphia.net] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 9:03 AM To: Silver-List Subject: CSTrace minerals supplement suggestions Does anyone have any suggestions for trace minerals? Brands? websites? On the internet there is a plethora! Thanks, Judy Down Maine NEVER!!! hold a cat while starting a chain-saw.
RE: CSre(2): CSPHN broken link
the link opens; its the first actually 2 links that seem to go into landscaping. Bummer, as I look out into my own tall overgrown what used to be lawn. maybe there's a message there, eh. http://www.whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm ed -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSre(2): CSPHN I am very happy to find this posting, as I just happen to have FINALLY received a good hardback copy of Wilhelm Reich's interesting book, The Bion Experiments.Not being a biologist, I am open-mindedly skeptical about Reich's claimed observations, but intend to keep reading and learning. Ed's useful post gives me a good site to continue that effort. Much obliged!But note that the first link, supposedly to a pleomorphism site, has evidently been taken over by a landscaping outfit! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCansema
thanks for the post on Congressman Ron Paul of Texas 14 th district. Great Guy. I have a question on your cancer pH RE: SECOND. Test her Ph. If over 6.8 she does not have Cancer - merely a tumour - please elaborate more on this. or refer me to a site if this goes too far OT. or email me e...@happyherbalist.com test pH of blood, salvia, sweat or urine? thanks, Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCansema At 01:21 AM 03/03/05, you wrote: And I need it too. My husband was diagnosed yesterday for the third time. Sigh. MA You really will have to face giving up the good life, I'm afraid. :-) Any form of cancer is a very bad sign of systemic intoxication. What sort of blood state is he in? Acid Ph of what sort of level? It can be dropped pretty dramatically by simply changing from a cancerous diet. Only this very day, I had a call from a MD - hysterical because his wife has proved positive for a cancer. What can he do, what can he do??? He *knows* medical treatment is extremely dangerous and ineffective. Same anecdotal reporting of an opinion I once heard out in the jungle somewhere, as I passed to him: FIRST. Do not let her have any invasive treatment. SECOND. Test her Ph. If over 6.8 she does not have Cancer - merely a tumour - THIRD. Whether Ph acid positive or not, get her out of the good life - where do you think tumours and melanomas come from? ( He didn't know - like most Doctors) FOURTH. Cancer is not a big deal - not like losing a leg, or having asbestosis, or physical brain damage. More like being an alcoholic/diabetic. You have demonstrated a weakness for sugar and have a damaged metabolic system. Like owning an old auto, ( even if you are 21!) your body needs TLC from now on. That's all. FIFTH. Fear kills more people than bullets. There is never a time when fear has a use. Never. Any action, any positive action at all will banish it to the animal world where it belongs. Best wishes, Himagain NOTA BENE: NOTHING I say here or elsewhere should be construed as any form of qualified advice on any matter unless specifically paid for at my counselling rate of $2000 per hour. Your due diligence is mandatory in all things - especially in longevity matters. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS PHN
The symptoms of shingles is very common in China and is usually diagnosied as gallbladder or liver heat or dampheat and treated accordingly. Typical herbal formula is Xiao Feng San but depends upon the differential diagnosis. Acupuncture is another method often successfully employed. All intergarte well with CS applied locally with laser light theraphy. One can also simply use a laser pointing pen (Radio Shack 24.95). First saturate the area with CS, cover with plastic film (saran wrap)and press (gently) the laser agianst the skin. Hold for a few minutes and repeat along different areas. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: V.Jean.G. [mailto:tijua...@webtv.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS PHN There's no cure for shingles; however, Famvir, an expensive anti-viral prescription drug, may help to control the disease but won't cure it. Shingles is caused by Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome. It starts in the ear, affects the eyesight, tear ducts, hearing, facial muscles, swallowing, speech, hair loss, vertigo, high anxiety, and slowly progresses to vital organs and lastly the brain. Massachusetts General Hospital has estimated over a million suffer from shingles in the U.S. Why no one has studied this disease, discovered in 1907, is truly mind boggling. Contact your state and federal representatives and ask for research on Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome. V.Jean.G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCansema
regarding essiac tea a very good source of non-commercial information is available at http://essiac-info.org/ they do some comparison of various outfits as well as some common advice. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCansema In a message dated 3/3/05 1:24:27 AM Central Standard Time, rainelov...@sbcglobal.net writes: The appointment was 2 weeks away, so in the meantime I took Essiac Tea (Flor-Essence). By the time my appt. rolled around all spots and the abnormal mole, were gone and I cancelled it. OK -- now I need information for me!! I've got a couple of moles that I'd like to see disappear. What is Essiac Tea and/or Flor-Essence and where would I get that? Thanks. MA
RE: CScancer
I would be interested in the research on cancer and inducing fevers. If possible please post the reference sites. Many Chinese herbs and formulas are being studied specifically for cancers. Xiao Chai Hu Tang for liver cancer is in FDA approved second stage clinical trials. That herbal formula is a classical harmonizing formula. One of the Traditional Chinese Medicine's treatment methods. sweating is another form of treatment to expel a pathogen. It is used in exterior conditions when a pathogen first enters the body, like in a common cold. And in late stages as the pathogen is being expelled by other factors and assists by expressing the pathogen via sweating out through the pores of the skin. There are many Chinese herbal formulas and recommendation that achieve this. The sweat produced is only a mild sweat as a heavy sweat like in a sauna or sweat lodge, is too damaging to the body (and in the case of cancer where the body is already weakened a heavy sweat would be contraindicated) Another method is the use of purgatives. This expels the pathogen out through the stool. Used when the pathogen is deeper in the body. Although not a specific Chinese herbal formula, essiac tea, follows this method in treatment of cancers. Interesting thought. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScancer There has been alot of research on cancer treatments regarding raising the body temperature or inducing artificial fevers. They are able to do this at some of the holistic clinics. I dont know how a lay person in their home could do it . It would seem difficult to induce a fever yourself. YOu could raise the outer body temperature but I think that it is the core temperature that kills cancer,bugs etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSre(2): CSPHN
How does CS work ? most say by killing all single cell organism. This is western thinking. And the downfall is that it works and it doesn't work. It is not whether either may be proven but in our understanding of what is happening that is important. Western medicinal thinking is tunnel vision based upon the single germ theory. It is not scientifically looking for answers. It is focused on proving its single germ theory. It works and it doesn't work - but 'they will not admit that simply saying we need more research. TCM, Chinese Medicine = Pleomorphism: the concept that cells/diseases, and especially one-celled microorganisms, can change to cells/diseases of another type. For example Pleomorphism in human cells might be the morphing of skin cells to connective tissue cells, or of blood cells to bone tissue. In TCM - Wood to Fire to Earth to Metal to Water. Cold to Heat, Damp to Dryness a constant ebb and flow. My thinking would say that CS works via Pleomorphism: returning the environment to a more natural state and therefore not receptive to what western theory calls germs / diseases. http://www.whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm http://www.whale.to/p/bird.html think outside the box. Newton, Einstein, Pasteur ... and do not be limited to everything you've been told. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: V.Jean.G. [mailto:tijua...@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 8:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSre(2): CSPHN Zonman: I need to clarify my comments on shingles. I agree, there's a cure for everything that hasn't exceeded the point of no return. Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome is no different; however, when RHS is merely ignored since 1907 and no research of any kind, how can there ever be a cure for a disease that maimes, disables and kills equals to Aids? I've spoken to university professors but all say this disease is too complex and instead opt to study the easy things. As you know, pharmaceutical companies would lose billions if a cure to the common cold (a virus) were found. Many complications come from a cold. Same scenario for Parkinsons, Alzheimers, ALS, MS, Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Epstein Barr, etc, etc. I know people who first contracted shingles as a teenager and still fighting it at age 80. They've tried everything available to them without success. I don't doubt the many who've said CS has helped them; however, once CS is stopped, or any other Western or alternative medicine, the symptoms always return and the virus remains. There can be no cures to these diseases unless there's research on the thousands of viruses out there. There are eight categories of viruses. With all due respect, you have your opinion and I have mine. V.Jean.G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
Louise, very nice post. I was wondering your opinion on Nebulizing a homeopathic remedy. Secondary do you have any opinions on Homotoxicology http://www.heelbhi.com/about_story_of_heel.html I am interested in this line of homeopathy as it more closely follows Traditional Chinese Medicine (I'm a licensed acupuncturist and herbalist) as to the stages of disease. The new German medicine (only briefy-briefy scanned) seems to follow along Pleomorphism Theories of Infectious Disease http://www.whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm which IMO follows along TCM as well. Understood in the terms of Pleomorphism CS would not attack a virus directly as understood via western single germ theory but rather make the environment unfriendly towards any proliferation of the virus. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Louise [mailto:lou...@raw-connections.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection In Germanic New Medicine it is a sign of a hanging healing conflict, I think it is I am fed up with this. So perhaps a change in attitude and some homeopathic remedies or Bach flower remedies for the emotions (though the homeopathic remedies can be useful as well for the sinus problem, but it chronic the emotional reasons need to be worked on. http://germannewmedicine.ca Another website that is also worth checking out is www.newmedicine.ca the homeopathic remedies depend for instance if t he colour our the snot if yellow green then it would be different than if it was clear for instance. See links or book recommendation below. Louise For a lot of the day to day little things and for emergencies you can do the treating yourself (for acutes of known causes) You can use this book for people and animals Everybody's Guide to Homeopathic Medicines by Stephen Cummings, MC and Dana Ullman, MPH coupled with a little 30C kit with Arnica 200C you will be able to help quite a lot of emergencies. http://www.abchomeopathy.com/go.php put in symptoms and get a remedy, but do check with Materia Medica how good a match it is. Do not assume this program is right. on line Materia Medica http://data.widgetworks.com:591/boericke/ or http://www.homeopathyworks.com/boericke.htm http://www.abchomeopathy.com/conditions.php/m http://www.vitalforce.org/repertory.html good repertory to match symptoms with suggestions to look up in Materia Medica. http://www.simillimum.com - click on 'First Aid Room Gives you a quick run down of the remedies to read (you need a good Materia Medica or keynotes. http://www.homeoint.org/books/allkeyn/index.htm A Canadian company in BC that is selling Phytopia Homeopathic Remedy Kits. Their Pharmacy kit contains 48 remedies, all of which were identified in class as 'must haves' for acute prescribing. The kit comes in a handy travel case, with 'cheat cards'. http://phytopia.biz/HomeopathyKits.html http://a2zhomeopathy.com/ several kits here and I use them when traveling myself. Washington Homeopathic has a 50 rx kit for $69.30 Can ($52.20 U.S.) also a nice kit with a booklet. And a 100 rx kit for ($92.40 U.S.) $122.66 Can (March 2004) Washington Homeopathic Products 33 Fairfax St., Berkeley Springs WV 25411 Orders only 1-800-336-1695 http://www.homeopathyworks.com/ http://www.homeocan.ca/ mixes http://www.drsandharshomeopathic.com/ a homeopathic pharmacy in Edmonton http://www.dolisos.ca/english/Products/Products.htm CANADIAN!! http://www.homeopathyovernight.com/fcatalog.html if you really need a remedy over night (though that service costs more) I found in Canada if was not overnight as the customs held it up thinking it was drugs of some kind needing a prescription. Would not want to have a sick dying dog and ordering there. also http://www.canadamedexpress.com/productpage3.asp would be perhaps a better place to order from. Helios has a nice kit with 36 rx which cost $60 Can. (March 2004) It comes in a sturdy plastic case which fit well in a purse and it also come with a little booklet. http://www.helios.co.uk/hh.html For books I suggest www.minimum.com With your first order they give you this extensive catalogue and I bought a lot of books, videos and cassette tapes, many more than on my school list of books. -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:47 AM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection I forgot to add that I already use CS in a Nebulizer daily. I will try the 10 DMSO to see if this helps Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver
RE: CSBleeding from behind CS/Aloe Vera testimonial...
Steve, Glad it worked. FYI bleeding that is bright fresh red would not be to much of a concern. Bleeding that is darker is a concern as it indicates a higher up disorder possible indicating a serious internal disorder. Just stopping the bleeding is a step but if the bleeding was dark needs further investigation. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. ] -Original Message- From: scl...@netzero.com [mailto:scl...@netzero.com] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 3:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBleeding from behind CS/Aloe Vera testimonial... Don't tell anyone but it was my wife's cooking. Some kind of a bean stew which caused intesinal eruptions which I will not elaborate on any further. Suffice to say I am healed! Steve Hi Steve, Even more important is why did you start bleeding? Celebration night out? A Curry, or Mexican? New Drug? Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRussian DNA Discoveries
Maybe why THE government is so persistent upon building more and greater frequency devices, like satellite: radios, TV, microwaves, replacing the limited earth bound power grid. Once individuals are isolated (from family, peers and social groupings) without communication they (we) may be easily programmed. My guess is for everything we know today THE government is already 25-50 years ahead of us on. Sad, reality can be so harsh. Ignorance so blissful. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Ian Roe [mailto:ian_onta...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRussian DNA Discoveries Well, this article certainly explains a lot doesn't it? I find it fascinating. Ian - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 4:35 PM Subject: CSRussian DNA Discoveries Interesting article about communicating with your DNA for healing and so forth: http://www.rense.com/general62/expl.htm Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks
according to research by Leon http://www.geocities.com/lgasparyan/e_home.html a Blue LED will be affective when applied topically at the wrist artery.Though not as affective as laser intravenously applied. A RED LED would be less - though still affective. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 10:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks How deep would a UV light penetrate? Seems like we could clean our blood by shining the UV light on our near skin arteries similar to a Beck zapper. I just had 3 UV blood cleaning treatments in Mexico and they helped my Allergies/Asthma. My Beck zapper did not work that well for Allergies/ Asthma. Still get Aspergillus clumps from my sinuses during flushes but they are smaller and can go 4 days without seeing anything. Could the 660 nm red led simulate the UV light? Brickey
RE: CSPMR
Steve there is a combination of two classic Chinese herbal formulas, Xiao Chai Hu Tang Plus Wu Ling San. Can't promise a cure but seems to treat the symptoms. TCM does not specifically treat western diseases but relies upon a differential TCM diagnosis. This differential may indicate a different herbal formula for the same disease in another person. free online TCM Diagnosis and Herbal Recommendation http://www.happyherbalist.com/tcm_Herbal_Diagnosis.htm Enjoy Your Health, Ed Kasper L.Ac. California Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist -Original Message- From: SJY [mailto:youngst...@konnections.net] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:46 PM To: Silver List Subject: CSPMR Anyone have any reliable information regarding treatments for polymyalgia rheumatica (PMR) besides the use of steroids (e.g. prednizone) and inflammation/pain reducers like ibuprofin? These control the pain but are not very effective in curing the problem. Most literature regarding PMR says the cause is unknown, and the cure seems to be the passage of time - perhaps 6 months to two years augmented by 5 to 10 mg daily doses of prednizone. Are there known useful alternative treatments, e.g. colloidal silver, that can speed recovery? Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CStetrasil, etc.
Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a tincture, how strong how applied. Thanks Ed -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large quantities it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as it does topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of it... virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old and has its roots in American Indian herbal medicine. I've used it successfully for skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've used CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE
I think chaparral has some cautionary about use. caution with history of liver disease. discontinue if nausea, fever, fatigue or jaundice occur bloodroot cautionary not to use while pregnant, may cause vomiting and nausea do not exceed recommended dosage bloodroot is pretty expensive stuff so most folks will use sparingly. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 7:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE I'm with Ed: the more information we can get, the better. I particular, I have read nothing about bloodroot and CS in combination or as complementary protocols. BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great book. Spontaneous Healing. This is a must-have. (The subsequent book were a bit disappointing. . . ) Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve. This can save lives. Kindly pass on the recipe to anyone interested. JBB This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers provided that they have become exposed to or close to the surface of the skin. 1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis) 1/2 cup Zinc Chloride, crystals or liquid 1/2 cup common white flour 1 1/2 cup warm water 100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana) Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the cancer out at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does not irritate the skin. On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote: Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a tincture, how strong how applied. Thanks Ed -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large quantities it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as it does topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of it... virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old and has its roots in American Indian herbal medicine. I've used it successfully for skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've used CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance. Bob
RE: CSUpdate on flu/cold that did not respond well to EIS
Marshall do you suspect that EIS and H2O2 will break down or not be as effective if added together and than stored for many 30 day. Ed -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:49 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUpdate on flu/cold that did not respond well to EIS OK, from what I can tell, the EIS was of marginal value for this bug. This is what happened: 1. I got it, ran 102 fever for 3 days, EIS did not seem to help. Took about 4 ounces of EIS with 2 or 3 drops of H2O2 added on the third night, and my fever broke about 8 to 10 hours later. Took 10 days to fully recover. 2. My daugher got it and ran a 102 fever. On the second day I suggested trying the EIS with a few drops of H2O2 added. Her fever broke about 8n to10 hours later. She is still weak, but recovering quite quickly and nicely. 3. Her husband came down with it yesterday, and was running a 101.5 fever. She gave him some EIS with H2O2 added when he got home. His fever broke later this morning (estimated to be 8 to 10 hours after taking the EIS with H2O2) while he was asleep, and he went to work today. From what I can tell the addition of H2O2 and letting sit a few minutes then drinking it seems to really superpower EIS. From my experiments it appears that adding H2O2 to EIS breaks down the larger particles and reacts with the silver ions (silver hydroxide) changing a mix a silver hydroxide and medium sized particles to silver oxide (Ag2O), and very small particles. I am still not sure if it is the silver oxide or the very small silver particles that are causing the greatly increased effectiveness, or it could be both. But I guess it really doesn't matter, thing is, this really works! Note, I believe this should be used with EIS that is not much greater than 10 ppm, since silver oxide has a solubility limit of about 13 ppm. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSProbiotics
Consider kefir (fermented milk similar to yogurt) and kombucha (fermented sugar and tea similar to apple-cider) both easy and fun to make at home for just pennies. Not as cheap as CS but well worth it. I sell the stuff and you can see information about them on my website - but ask around your local HFS or yahoo groups and simply ask for some and your chances are good at getting some for free - maybe postage, best to find one local. If your confused email me off-list as this is off topic. Dom's Kefir in-site for information: http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Looking for kefir grains?... or have kefir grains to share? http://66.46.11.99/clarkson/Show/Clarkson/kefir/default.asp http://www.rejoiceinlife.com/kefir/kefirlist.php Original_Kombucha Home: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/original_kombucha/ Brewing Kombucha Pictures online http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm Enjoy Your Health, Ed Kasper L.Ac. California Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist www.HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSProbiotics Louise wrote: You need to take probiotics when you are not eating meat. For dog a fermented salad is great way of doing this. The fermented pulped salad is made (mostly with leafy greens) adding probiotics (human grade and non dairy) to establish the good bacteria in the intestines. The human grade digestive enzymes are also added (need one with cellulase and amylase at least) are added to the pulped salad and keep the mix at BODY temperature for at least 15 minutes before feeding, wait at least 2 hours after this salad mix before feeding meaty bones for the best results. This salad helps diarrhea problems as well as constipation, boost the immune system and gives extra b vitamins to boot :o It helps to repair the intestines by establishing good bacteria that prefers raw food and leafy greens. You first pulp the veggies (chop up some romaine lettuce so it is easier to process, some freeze it first to smash into very tiny pieced in the bag after it is frozen) some add a little water for processing) it should look like baby food when done. For sick animals make it mostly leafy greens and low starchy veggies. You can freeze this mush and then continue the rest of the procedure when you need some more fermented veggies. With the thawed mixture or the freshly made one you add some probiotics human grade (non dairy type) always sold in the fridge of pharmacy or health food store. add one capsule or digestive enzymes (like UDO's digestive blend human type, though if you read the labels you will find similar types for less money) but they should have the basics of Cellulase and Amylase. (for dogs and cats about 10 pounds or less use 1/4 capsule of each) Do you eat this immediately, or do you wait a while for it to ferment? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
