Re: CS>Question Lyme, mycoplasma & ozone, etc treatment legitimacy??

[Max]

my two cents;

Define your objective.  If the objective is raise money, or seek 
treatment, what value is it arguing that Lyme is bio-engineered? If 
proving that lyme even exists is an issue, searching PubMed is a good 
place to start.   But if you have to argue this fundamental thing, 
perhaps you are talking to the wrong doctor.   I wonder what value it is 
to point this doctor who wants you to see a Lyme illiterate doctor to 
the silver list?    Be very specific with your intentions.  If you need 
to convince a health care professional, ask them what proof they 
consider valid, then find that proof rather than trying a scatter shot 
approach.  No doctor will have time or interest, but they will have 
derision.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6521364/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33504503/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33910962/


On 9/27/2021 11:22 PM, jenny goodhealth wrote:
One of my friends replied to my request for help to raise medical 
funding to treat Lyme & co-infections as follows:



“I got your message. I am still concerned about you being taken 
advantage of by doctors/healthcare providers (Dr. Steven Harris. other 
LLMDs & Naturpath provides ozone treatment)  selling you these 
un-proven treatments (ozone & other alternative treatments) for an 
un-proven diseases (Lyme disease & co-infections).  I care for your 
welfare and don’t doubt that you have symptoms worth treating.  But I 
fear you are caught up in the wrong treatment approach – perhaps for 
years.  I am interested in how I can help you get better clarity on 
this.  You said you were going to look into my concerns. Did you?



Here’s the link on some information on Dr. Harris and the suspected 
fraud issues around chronic lyme disease. 
https://lymescience.org/steven-harris/ 






 If you are willing to re-assess, I will consider helping you find a 
medical evaluation from a doctor that is not a Lyme-Literate Doctor.  
I am not willing to help you raise money for un-specified past 
healthcare bills or future Lyme-literate treatment.”


Please advise on how to persuade him that (1) chronic Lyme & 
mycoplasma fermentan icognitious are bioengineered & exist;  (2) the 
medical establishments did not want us to get well & purposes 
misdiagnosed us; (3) ozone & other alternative treatments are 
effective & legitimate; (4) my LLMD Dr Steven Harris is a relatively 
ok doctors in comparison with other MDs  How to find out whether 
Dr.Harris’ M.D. license was revoked or suspended in Illinois as 
mentioned in above link?


Will tell him about this group, some books written by Lyme doctors 
(any recommendations) help?   Also will tell him about 
betterhealthguy.com by Scott Frogren dedicated to help Lyme patients 
help?


Please advise??

Thanks


Jen

Re: CS>question high B/P

[Marshall]

Most health food stores, Amazon.  Dr.'s Best is best I think.

Marshall

On 10/14/2020 1:37 PM, Harsha Godavari wrote:

any good source of the serrapeptase?

hg

- Original Message -
From: Marshall 

My wife and I both defeated high blood pressure by taking
serrapeptase for a week or two.


Marshall


On 10/13/2020 11:12 AM, cat4...@aol.com  wrote:



Hi to all you knowledgeable people.
I have high blood
pressure for the last 3 month and have not been able to
bring it down naturally. Do not want to take meds either.
Can someone please make
some suggestions.
166 over 70 is a weird
number for me.My B/P has always been on the low side
Any response would be
greatly appreciated.Thank you kindly
Christel

Re: CS>question high B/P

[Marshall]

Dr.'s Best.  Start out slow, 40,000 to 50,000 then work your way up to 
120,000/day.  It dissolves plaque in the veins and if you go hog wild at 
first, some can break off and cause problems.  Once the plaque and 
cholesterol is gone, the pressure goes down.  I found it good for about 
5 years, when you may need to take another round.


Marshall

On 10/14/2020 1:11 PM, Alan Jones wrote:

Marshall, any suggestions on brand or potency?

I have a problem swallowing pills, they get stuck in my esophagus 
sometimes, would like to get easy to swallow (small) pills.


On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 9:47 AM Marshall > wrote:


My wife and I both defeated high blood pressure by taking
serrapeptase for a week or two.

Marshall

On 10/13/2020 11:12 AM, cat4...@aol.com 
wrote:


Hi to all you knowledgeable people.
I have high blood pressure for the last 3 month and have not been
able to bring it down naturally. Do not want to take meds either.
Can someone please make some suggestions.
166 over 70 is a weird number for me.My B/P has always been on
the low side
Any response would be greatly appreciated.Thank you kindly
Christel




--
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, 
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States 
respectively, or to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>question high B/P

[Deborah Gerard]

 Amazon has the liquidAmazon.com


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On Wednesday, October 14, 2020, 01:11:24 PM EDT, Alan Jones 
 wrote:  
 
 Marshall, any suggestions on brand or potency?
I have a problem swallowing pills, they get stuck in my esophagus sometimes, 
would like to get easy to swallow (small) pills.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 9:47 AM Marshall  wrote:

  My wife and I both defeated high blood pressure by taking serrapeptase for a 
week or two.
 
 Marshall
 
 On 10/13/2020 11:12 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote: 
   
 Hi to all you knowledgeable people. I have high blood pressure for the last 3 
month and have not been able to bring it down naturally. Do not want to take 
meds either.  Can someone please make some suggestions. 166 over 70 is a weird 
number for me.My B/P has always been on the low side Any response would be 
greatly appreciated.Thank you kindly Christel   
 
 


-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor 
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to 
the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)  

Re: CS>question high B/P

[Harsha Godavari]

any good source of the serrapeptase?
hg
- Original Message -
From: Marshall 

My wife and I both defeated high blood pressure by taking
serrapeptase for a week or two.


Marshall


On 10/13/2020 11:12 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:


Hi to all you knowledgeable people.I have high blood
pressure for the last 3 month and have not been able to
bring it down naturally. Do not want to take meds either.
Can someone please make
some suggestions.166 over 70 is a weird
number for me.My B/P has always been on the low sideAny response would be
greatly appreciated.Thank you kindlyChristel

Re: CS>question high B/P

[Alan Jones]

Marshall, any suggestions on brand or potency?

I have a problem swallowing pills, they get stuck in my esophagus
sometimes, would like to get easy to swallow (small) pills.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 9:47 AM Marshall  wrote:

> My wife and I both defeated high blood pressure by taking serrapeptase for
> a week or two.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 10/13/2020 11:12 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Hi to all you knowledgeable people.
> I have high blood pressure for the last 3 month and have not been able to
> bring it down naturally. Do not want to take meds either.
> Can someone please make some suggestions.
> 166 over 70 is a weird number for me.My B/P has always been on the low side
> Any response would be greatly appreciated.Thank you kindly
> Christel
>
>
>

-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>question high B/P

[Marshall]

My wife and I both defeated high blood pressure by taking serrapeptase 
for a week or two.


Marshall

On 10/13/2020 11:12 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:


Hi to all you knowledgeable people.
I have high blood pressure for the last 3 month and have not been able 
to bring it down naturally. Do not want to take meds either.

Can someone please make some suggestions.
166 over 70 is a weird number for me.My B/P has always been on the low 
side

Any response would be greatly appreciated.Thank you kindly
Christel

Re: CS>question high B/P

[Deborah Gerard]

 
Hawthorne berries bought mine down...but knowledge is good get to the bottom of 
why it is happening...On Tuesday, October 13, 2020, 11:47:56 AM EDT, Nenay 
Sylver  wrote:  
 
 
The kidneys and adrenals are involved in the regulation of blood pressure. See:

  

https://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/systems/kidney-urinary/kidney8.htm 

  

https://www.drlamcoaching.com/adrenal-fatigue/symptoms/adrenal-fatigue-and-blood-pressure-symptoms/
 

  

  

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health, 5th Edition

www.nenahsylver.com 

  

NEW Etsy Shop: Earth Riches

Handmade, one-of-a-kind jewelry

of semi-precious stones from the Earth

plus rare and unique vintage items

https://www.etsy.com/shop/EarthRiches 

  

From: cat4...@aol.com  
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 8:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>question high B/P

  


Hi to all you knowledgeable people.

I have high blood pressure for the last 3 month and have not been able to bring 
it down naturally. Do not want to take meds either. 

Can someone please make some suggestions.

166 over 70 is a weird number for me.My B/P has always been on the low side

Any response would be greatly appreciated.Thank you kindly

Christel
  

Re: CS>question high B/P

[Jean Baugh]

How about beet root capsules from Nature's Way?

Jean

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:47 AM Nenay Sylver 
wrote:

> The kidneys and adrenals are involved in the regulation of blood pressure.
> See:
>
>
>
>
> https://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/systems/kidney-urinary/kidney8.htm
>
>
>
>
> https://www.drlamcoaching.com/adrenal-fatigue/symptoms/adrenal-fatigue-and-blood-pressure-symptoms/
>
>
>
>
>
> *Nenah Sylver, PhD*
>
> author, *The Rife Handbook*
>
> *of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health, 5th Edition*
>
> www.nenahsylver.com
>
>
>
> NEW Etsy Shop: Earth Riches
>
> Handmade, one-of-a-kind jewelry
>
> of semi-precious stones from the Earth
>
> plus rare and unique vintage items
>
> https://www.etsy.com/shop/EarthRiches
>
>
>
> *From:* cat4...@aol.com 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 8:12 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* CS>question high B/P
>
>
>
>
> Hi to all you knowledgeable people.
>
> I have high blood pressure for the last 3 month and have not been able to
> bring it down naturally. Do not want to take meds either.
>
> Can someone please make some suggestions.
>
> 166 over 70 is a weird number for me.My B/P has always been on the low side
>
> Any response would be greatly appreciated.Thank you kindly
>
> Christel
>

RE: CS>question high B/P

[Nenay Sylver]

The kidneys and adrenals are involved in the regulation of blood pressure. See:

 

https://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/systems/kidney-urinary/kidney8.htm 

 

https://www.drlamcoaching.com/adrenal-fatigue/symptoms/adrenal-fatigue-and-blood-pressure-symptoms/
 

 

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health, 5th Edition

www.nenahsylver.com   

 

NEW Etsy Shop: Earth Riches

Handmade, one-of-a-kind jewelry

of semi-precious stones from the Earth

plus rare and unique vintage items

https://www.etsy.com/shop/EarthRiches 

 

From: cat4...@aol.com  
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 8:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>question high B/P

 


Hi to all you knowledgeable people.

I have high blood pressure for the last 3 month and have not been able to bring 
it down naturally. Do not want to take meds either. 

Can someone please make some suggestions.

166 over 70 is a weird number for me.My B/P has always been on the low side

Any response would be greatly appreciated.Thank you kindly

Christel

Re: CS>Question about CS and COVID

[Deborah Gerard]

 I take it and am 68 years old and refuse to wear a mask when I go out in 
public...no worries here.
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020, 12:24:44 PM EDT, Dan Nave 
 wrote:  
 
 Are we actually seeing any reports of CS being effective on Covid-19?

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 7:38 AM Ode Coyote  wrote:

HiYa Shelby !!
CS will kill the HECK out of Covid 19
ode

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:19 AM Shelby  wrote:


Hello, I have never posted here before and I hope I am doing it correctly. I 
learned that COVID is inside a lipid cell. How can CS help with this?

 

Shelby




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Re: CS>Question about CS and COVID

[Richard Atkinson]

am told by a homeopathic doctor in Barcelona  that CS is an excellent 
preventative but  not a cure all for Covid 19 sadly 
best wishes 

Richard Atkinson
atomicsil...@gmail.com
The Chaos Oasis 
Belize

facebook 
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> On May 13, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Dan Nave  wrote:
> 
> Are we actually seeing any reports of CS being effective on Covid-19?
> 
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 7:38 AM Ode Coyote  > wrote:
> HiYa Shelby !!
> 
> CS will kill the HECK out of Covid 19
> 
> ode
> 
> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:19 AM Shelby  > wrote:
> Hello, I have never posted here before and I hope I am doing it correctly. I 
> learned that COVID is inside a lipid cell. How can CS help with this?
> 
>  
> 
> Shelby
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Top News - Sponsored By Newser 
> 
> Bad News for Brits Hoping to End Lockdown 
> 
> Shark Kills Calif. Surfer 
> 
> Fauci, Top COVID Officials Exposed to Virus 
> 

Re: CS>Question about CS and COVID

[Dan Nave]

Are we actually seeing any reports of CS being effective on Covid-19?

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 7:38 AM Ode Coyote 
wrote:

> HiYa Shelby !!
>
> CS will kill the HECK out of Covid 19
>
> ode
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:19 AM Shelby  wrote:
>
>> Hello, I have never posted here before and I hope I am doing it
>> correctly. I learned that COVID is inside a lipid cell. How can CS help
>> with this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Shelby
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Top News - Sponsored By Newser
>> 
>>
>>- *Bad News for Brits Hoping to End Lockdown*
>>
>> 
>>- *Shark Kills Calif. Surfer*
>>
>> 
>>- *Fauci, Top COVID Officials Exposed to Virus*
>>
>> 
>>
>>

Re: CS>Question about CS and COVID

[Robert Banever]

Dear Ode,     I agree totally.  I'd love to get your opinion on another matter.  Currently I'm taking 2 teaspoons of CS daily, keeping in my mouth for 4 or 5 minutes before swallowing to allow the ions to absorb into the blood before reaching the stomach.  I also nebulize with a small amount daily, only for a few minutes as I don't have any symptoms and feel fine.  For prevention do you think what I'm taking is enough?  Also, is it necessary to keep the solution in the mouth before swallowing?  Thanks for all that you do.     Bob -Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote 
Sent: May 11, 2020 5:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Question about CS and COVID

HiYa Shelby !!CS will kill the HECK out of Covid 19odeOn Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:19 AM Shelby <samje...@netzero.net> wrote:Hello, I have never posted here before and I hope I am doing it correctly. I learned that COVID is inside a lipid cell. How can CS help with this? Shelby

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Re: CS>Question about CS and COVID

[Ode Coyote]

HiYa Shelby !!

CS will kill the HECK out of Covid 19

ode

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:19 AM Shelby  wrote:

> Hello, I have never posted here before and I hope I am doing it correctly.
> I learned that COVID is inside a lipid cell. How can CS help with this?
>
>
>
> Shelby
>
>
> 
>
> Top News - Sponsored By Newser
> 
>
>- *Bad News for Brits Hoping to End Lockdown*
>
>- *Shark Kills Calif. Surfer*
>
>- *Fauci, Top COVID Officials Exposed to Virus*
>
>
>

Re: CS>question

[Sandee George]

Excellent advice Olushola - thanks for sharing this very important knowledge to 
all 
Peace, love, good health, blessings & hugs to you 
Sandee 🐬
An Attitude of Gratitude & Awareness are Everything!!!
oha...@juno.com & or san...@spiceisle.com
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On Nov 11, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Olushola Camara  wrote:



On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 6:06 PM Marshall mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com>> wrote:
Mineral imbalance, and/or dehydration.  Take a calcium/magnesium supplement 
(1,000 mg calcium 500 mg magnesium,

Mineral imbalance is at the root of many health issues. Before one begins to 
pop supplements indiscriminately, it's best to get tested to know exactly your 
mineral status. 
https://requestatest.com/mag-zinc-copper-panel-with-iron-panel-plus-vitamin-a-and-vitamin-d-test
 

 performs such a test. Next find someone who can analyze the results. This part 
is very important.
There's a Facebook group called the Magnesium Advocacy Group that can help you 
with this. Also hair test can also give you a mineral status.

Olushola

Re: CS>question

[Olushola Camara]

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 6:06 PM Marshall  wrote:

> Mineral imbalance, and/or dehydration.  Take a calcium/magnesium
> supplement (1,000 mg calcium 500 mg magnesium,
>

Mineral imbalance is at the root of many health issues. Before one begins
to pop supplements indiscriminately, it's best to get tested to know
exactly your mineral status.
https://requestatest.com/mag-zinc-copper-panel-with-iron-panel-plus-vitamin-a-and-vitamin-d-test
performs such a test. Next find someone who can analyze the results. This
part is very important.
There's a Facebook group called the Magnesium Advocacy Group that can help
you with this. Also hair test can also give you a mineral status.

Olushola

Re: CS>question

[PT Ferrance]

If you are concerned about keeping your blood pressure down you might want to 
research Argenine and Lysine.PT
 

On Sunday, November 10, 2019, 12:09:25 PM EST, Da Darrin 
 wrote:  
 
 MaryAnne, I would have to wright a book to explain so This is one already 
written. The dosage is far higher than RDA. but I can say that the results are 
almost immediate.Dave


https://www.amazon.com/Practicing-Medicine-Without-License-Handbook/dp/1435712935/ref=sr_1_1?crid=27KF5F5N3INID&keywords=practicing+medicine+without+a+license&qid=1573404108&sprefix=practicing+med%2Caps%2C239&sr=8-1
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 6:17 AM MaryAnn Helland  wrote:

 Dave -- can you share more information on the Vit.C, L-Lyline and Proline 
protocol you mentioned for hardening of arteries?  My blood pressure continues 
to be mildly high, despite pretty clean arteries -- so I'm wondering if your 
combo might help.
BTW -- just saw a commercial on TV for Theraworx for muscle cramps!  Magnesium 
and Calcium works for me!MA
On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 05:06:53 PM CST, Marshall 
 wrote:  
 
   Mineral imbalance, and/or dehydration.  Take a calcium/magnesium supplement 
(1,000 mg calcium 500 mg magnesium, I take the solaray brand from  Amazon), and 
99 mg of potassium daily.  Make sure you are hydrated before going to bed.
 
 If you still have them theraworx seems to help also.
 
 Marshall
 
 On 11/9/2019 11:31 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote: 
   
 With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what causes these 
excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night?. I do not know what 
causes them nor what to take to eliminate them Any suggestions would be 
appreciated even if it is not silver related Thank you kindly Christel   
 
   
  

Re: CS>question

[Da Darrin]

MaryAnne, I would have to wright a book to explain so This is one already
written. The dosage is far higher than RDA. but I can say that the results
are almost immediate.
Dave


https://www.amazon.com/Practicing-Medicine-Without-License-Handbook/dp/1435712935/ref=sr_1_1?crid=27KF5F5N3INID&keywords=practicing+medicine+without+a+license&qid=1573404108&sprefix=practicing+med%2Caps%2C239&sr=8-1

On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 6:17 AM MaryAnn Helland 
wrote:

> Dave -- can you share more information on the Vit.C, L-Lyline and Proline
> protocol you mentioned for hardening of arteries?  My blood pressure
> continues to be mildly high, despite pretty clean arteries -- so I'm
> wondering if your combo might help.
>
> BTW -- just saw a commercial on TV for Theraworx for muscle cramps!
> Magnesium and Calcium works for me!
> MA
>
> On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 05:06:53 PM CST, Marshall <
> mdud...@king-cart.com> wrote:
>
>
> Mineral imbalance, and/or dehydration.  Take a calcium/magnesium
> supplement (1,000 mg calcium 500 mg magnesium, I take the solaray brand
> from  Amazon), and 99 mg of potassium daily.  Make sure you are hydrated
> before going to bed.
>
> If you still have them theraworx seems to help also.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 11/9/2019 11:31 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what causes these
> excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night?.
> I do not know what causes them nor what to take to eliminate them
> Any suggestions would be appreciated even if it is not silver related
> Thank you kindly
> Christel
>
>
>

RE: CS>question

[Jim]

The oil from Dr. Shealy is excellent.

 

From: Nenah Sylver  
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 9:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>question

 

Christel wrote: With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what 
causes these excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night? I do not 
know what causes them nor what to take to eliminate them Any suggestions would 
be appreciated even if it is not silver related

 



Most people are deficient in magnesium, which can lead to muscle cramps. Take a 
mixed magnesium complex supplement orally. Before bedtime, it will help you 
sleep. Magnesium "oil" can be rubbed into the sore areas topically.

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

 

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Re: CS>question

[Cyndiann Phillips]

Those cramps, are you taking medication for cholesterol? Statins can cause
that and sometimes it's permanent. Very dangerous!

Cyndi

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:14 PM Beth Toraason 
wrote:

> Magnesium oil massaged on my legs at bedtime works for me.
> Beth T
>
> On Nov 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Sandee George  wrote:
>
> Suggestions for the cramps, lack of water, lack of Vit C, lack of salt
> just for starters
> Peace, love, good health, blessings & hugs
> Sandee 🐬
> An Attitude of Gratitude & Awareness are Everything!!!
> oha...@juno.com & or san...@spiceisle.com
> Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2019, at 12:31 PM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what causes these
> excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night?.
> I do not know what causes them nor what to take to eliminate them
> Any suggestions would be appreciated even if it is not silver related
> Thank you kindly
> Christel
>
>
>

Re: CS>question

[MaryAnn Helland]

 Dave -- can you share more information on the Vit.C, L-Lyline and Proline 
protocol you mentioned for hardening of arteries?  My blood pressure continues 
to be mildly high, despite pretty clean arteries -- so I'm wondering if your 
combo might help.
BTW -- just saw a commercial on TV for Theraworx for muscle cramps!  Magnesium 
and Calcium works for me!MA
On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 05:06:53 PM CST, Marshall 
 wrote:  
 
   Mineral imbalance, and/or dehydration.  Take a calcium/magnesium supplement 
(1,000 mg calcium 500 mg magnesium, I take the solaray brand from  Amazon), and 
99 mg of potassium daily.  Make sure you are hydrated before going to bed.
 
 If you still have them theraworx seems to help also.
 
 Marshall
 
 On 11/9/2019 11:31 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote: 
   
 With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what causes these 
excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night?. I do not know what 
causes them nor what to take to eliminate them Any suggestions would be 
appreciated even if it is not silver related Thank you kindly Christel   
 
   

Re: CS>question

[cat4461]

Thank you Nenah.That is what I did before but it did not help.Really 
weirdChristel
In a message dated 11/9/2019 11:52:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
nenah12egro...@cox.net writes:

Take a mixed magnesium complex supplement orally. Before bedtime, it will help 
you sleep. Magnesium "oil" can be rubbed into the sore areas topically.

Re: CS>question

[Marshall]

Mineral imbalance, and/or dehydration.  Take a calcium/magnesium 
supplement (1,000 mg calcium 500 mg magnesium, I take the solaray brand 
from  Amazon), and 99 mg of potassium daily.  Make sure you are hydrated 
before going to bed.


If you still have them theraworx seems to help also.

Marshall

On 11/9/2019 11:31 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:


With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what causes 
these excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night?.

I do not know what causes them nor what to take to eliminate them
Any suggestions would be appreciated even if it is not silver related
Thank you kindly
Christel

Re: CS>question

[Nicky]

> On Nov 9, 2019, at 2:39 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
> 
> I'll second this.  The same thing happened to me. 
> PT
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 2:21:09 PM EST, Da Darrin 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> All good information although in my case I've had to take so much Magnesium 
> that it causes loose stool, like just water. That means Dehydration which 
> also increases cramps. Drinking lots of water doesn't help with dehydration 
> unless you also take the three most common electrolytes: Salt, Potassium,and 
> bi-carbonate (baking soda). With this knowledge I have been able to reduce 
> the magnesium to 3 grams from almost 12 a day and am not cramping at night. 
> The Doctors tell you No Salt but hey are full of sh**. Salt doesn't harden 
> arteries, scurvy does, from lack of vitamin C, L-Lysine and Proline.( Linus 
> Pauling regimen). 
> Helped me a lot, maybe not for you, Who knows.
> Dave
> 
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 8:52 AM Nenah Sylver  > wrote:
> Christel wrote: With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what 
> causes these excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night? I do not 
> know what causes them nor what to take to eliminate them Any suggestions 
> would be appreciated even if it is not silver related
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Most people are deficient in magnesium, which can lead to muscle cramps. Take 
> a mixed magnesium complex supplement orally. Before bedtime, it will help you 
> sleep. Magnesium "oil" can be rubbed into the sore areas topically.
> 
>  
> 
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
> 
>  
> 
> Holiday combination packs will save you money!
> 
> The Rife Handbook NEW 5th Edition
> 
> Rife Therapy DVD set
> 
> Sauna Book
> 
> www.nenahsylver.com  
> 
>  
> 
> NEW! See my EarthRiches Etsy shop:
> 
> https://www.etsy.com/shop/EarthRiches 
> Beautiful, handmade, one-of-a-kind items from
> 
> semiprecious stones for healing and enrichment
> 

Re: CS>question

[PT Ferrance]

I'll second this.  The same thing happened to me. 
PT
 

On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 2:21:09 PM EST, Da Darrin 
 wrote:  
 
 All good information although in my case I've had to take so much Magnesium 
that it causes loose stool, like just water. That means Dehydration which also 
increases cramps. Drinking lots of water doesn't help with dehydration unless 
you also take the three most common electrolytes: Salt, Potassium,and 
bi-carbonate (baking soda). With this knowledge I have been able to reduce the 
magnesium to 3 grams from almost 12 a day and am not cramping at night. The 
Doctors tell you No Salt but hey are full of sh**. Salt doesn't harden 
arteries, scurvy does, from lack of vitamin C, L-Lysine and Proline.( Linus 
Pauling regimen). 
Helped me a lot, maybe not for you, Who knows.Dave

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 8:52 AM Nenah Sylver  wrote:


Christel wrote: With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what 
causes these excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night? I do not 
know what causes them nor what to take to eliminate them Any suggestions would 
be appreciated even if it is not silver related

 



Most people are deficient in magnesium, which can lead to muscle cramps. Take a 
mixed magnesium complex supplement orally. Before bedtime, it will help you 
sleep. Magnesium "oil" can be rubbed into the sore areas topically.

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

 

Holiday combination packs will save you money!

The Rife Handbook NEW 5th Edition

Rife Therapy DVD set

Sauna Book

www.nenahsylver.com  

 

NEW! See my EarthRiches Etsy shop:

https://www.etsy.com/shop/EarthRiches 

Beautiful, handmade, one-of-a-kind items from

semiprecious stones for healing and enrichment

  

Re: CS>question

[Da Darrin]

All good information although in my case I've had to take so much Magnesium
that it causes loose stool, like just water. That means Dehydration which
also increases cramps. Drinking lots of water doesn't help with dehydration
unless you also take the three most common electrolytes: Salt,
Potassium,and bi-carbonate (baking soda). With this knowledge I have been
able to reduce the magnesium to 3 grams from almost 12 a day and am not
cramping at night. The Doctors tell you No Salt but hey are full of sh**.
Salt doesn't harden arteries, scurvy does, from lack of vitamin C, L-Lysine
and Proline.( Linus Pauling regimen).
Helped me a lot, maybe not for you, Who knows.
Dave

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 8:52 AM Nenah Sylver  wrote:

> Christel wrote: With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me
> what causes these excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night? I
> do not know what causes them nor what to take to eliminate them Any
> suggestions would be appreciated even if it is not silver related
>
>
>
> 
>
> Most people are deficient in magnesium, which can lead to muscle cramps.
> Take a mixed magnesium complex supplement orally. Before bedtime, it will
> help you sleep. Magnesium "oil" can be rubbed into the sore areas topically.
>
>
>
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>
>
>
> Holiday combination packs will save you money!
>
> *The Rife Handbook **NEW 5th Edition*
>
> *Rife Therapy DVD set*
>
> *Sauna Book*
>
> *www.nenahsylver.com *
>
>
>
> *NEW! See my EarthRiches Etsy shop:*
>
> *https://www.etsy.com/shop/EarthRiches
> *
>
> *Beautiful, handmade, one-of-a-kind items from*
>
> *semiprecious stones for healing and enrichment*
>

Re: CS>question

[PT Ferrance]

You can deal with them with a product called J Kloss Anti Spasmodic Compound 
from Herbalist & Alchemist  
https://www.herbalist-alchemist.com/shop-products/formulas-a-z/j---l/klc-j-kloss-anti-spasmodic-compound
I've done all the minerals and still get them occasionally and this definitely 
helps.  I believe the ones I get are tied to foods I eat and the phases of the 
moon (affects the water in the body.PT


 

On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 12:14:34 PM EST, Beth Toraason 
 wrote:  
 
 Magnesium oil massaged on my legs at bedtime works for me.Beth T


On Nov 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Sandee George  wrote:

Suggestions for the cramps, lack of water, lack of Vit C, lack of salt just for 
starters 
Peace, love, good health, blessings & hugs Sandee 🐬An Attitude of Gratitude & 
Awareness are Everything!!!oha...@juno.com & or sandee@spiceisle.comAlive Again 
Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops



On Nov 9, 2019, at 12:31 PM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:

With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what causes these 
excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night?.I do not know what 
causes them nor what to take to eliminate themAny suggestions would be 
appreciated even if it is not silver relatedThank you kindlyChristel

  

Re: CS>question

[Marshalee Hallett]

Magnesium!!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Sandee George  wrote:
> 
> Suggestions for the cramps, lack of water, lack of Vit C, lack of salt just 
> for starters 
> Peace, love, good health, blessings & hugs 
> Sandee 🐬
> An Attitude of Gratitude & Awareness are Everything!!!
> oha...@juno.com & or san...@spiceisle.com
> Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 9, 2019, at 12:31 PM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
> With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what causes these 
> excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night?.
> I do not know what causes them nor what to take to eliminate them
> Any suggestions would be appreciated even if it is not silver related
> Thank you kindly
> Christel
> 

Re: CS>question

[Deborah Gerard]

 The girls are right the magnesium oil is wonderful I make my own. Just FYI 
certain medications might be causing the leg cramps as well so do your research 
if you are on medications.
On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 12:00:08 PM EST, Sandee George 
 wrote:  
 
 Suggestions for the cramps, lack of water, lack of Vit C, lack of salt just 
for starters 
Peace, love, good health, blessings & hugs Sandee 🐬An Attitude of Gratitude & 
Awareness are Everything!!!oha...@juno.com & or sandee@spiceisle.comAlive Again 
Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops



On Nov 9, 2019, at 12:31 PM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:

With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what causes these 
excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night?.I do not know what 
causes them nor what to take to eliminate themAny suggestions would be 
appreciated even if it is not silver relatedThank you kindlyChristel
  

Re: CS>question

[Deborah Gerard]

 Here is a list of some drugs that can cause the leg cramps 
too...anti-psychotic drugs should be on it too. Be sure and drink lots of good 
water thru the day :) Hope this might help

   
   - Furosemide (Lasix), hydrochlorothiazide (Microzide), and other diuretics 
("water pills") that remove fluid from the body
   -  Donepezil (Aricept), used to treat Alzheimer's disease
   -  Neostigmine (Prostigmine), used for myasthenia gravis
   -  Nifedipine (Procardia), a treatment for angina and high blood pressure
   -  Raloxifene (Evista), an osteoporosis treatment
   -  Terbutaline (Brethine), albuterol (Proventil and Ventolin), asthma 
medications
   -  Tolcapone (Tasmar), which helps treat Parkinson's disease
   -  Statin medications for cholesterol, such as atorvastatin (Lipitor), 
fluvastatin (Lescol), lovastatin (Mevacor), pravastatin (Pravachol), 
rosuvastatin (Crestor), or simvastatin (Zocor)

On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 12:22:20 PM EST, Deborah Gerard 
 wrote:  
 
  The girls are right the magnesium oil is wonderful I make my own. Just FYI 
certain medications might be causing the leg cramps as well so do your research 
if you are on medications.
On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 12:00:08 PM EST, Sandee George 
 wrote:  
 
 Suggestions for the cramps, lack of water, lack of Vit C, lack of salt just 
for starters 
Peace, love, good health, blessings & hugs Sandee 🐬An Attitude of Gratitude & 
Awareness are Everything!!!oha...@juno.com & or sandee@spiceisle.comAlive Again 
Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops



On Nov 9, 2019, at 12:31 PM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:

With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what causes these 
excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night?.I do not know what 
causes them nor what to take to eliminate themAny suggestions would be 
appreciated even if it is not silver relatedThank you kindlyChristel

Re: CS>question

[Beth Toraason]

Magnesium oil massaged on my legs at bedtime works for me.
Beth T

> On Nov 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Sandee George  wrote:
> 
> Suggestions for the cramps, lack of water, lack of Vit C, lack of salt just 
> for starters 
> Peace, love, good health, blessings & hugs 
> Sandee 🐬
> An Attitude of Gratitude & Awareness are Everything!!!
> oha...@juno.com  & or san...@spiceisle.com 
> 
> Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 9, 2019, at 12:31 PM, cat4...@aol.com  wrote:
> 
> 
> With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what causes these 
> excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night?.
> I do not know what causes them nor what to take to eliminate them
> Any suggestions would be appreciated even if it is not silver related
> Thank you kindly
> Christel
> 

RE: CS>question

[David Bearrow]

Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big toe), 
I limp into my kitchen and fix myself a glass  of  a product called calm. 2 
teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium and it gets rid of the cramp within 5 
minutes. I really rely on this product .

Best regards,
David Bearrow
On Saturday, November 9, 2019, Nenah Sylver  wrote:


Christel wrote: With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what 
causes these excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night? I do not 
know what causes them nor what to take to eliminate them Any suggestions would 
be appreciated even if it is not silver related

  



Most people are deficient in magnesium, which can lead to muscle cramps. Take a 
mixed magnesium complex supplement orally. Before bedtime, it will help you 
sleep. Magnesium "oil" can be rubbed into the sore areas topically.

  

Nenah Sylver, PhD

  

Holiday combination packs will save you money!

The Rife Handbook NEW 5th Edition

Rife Therapy DVD set

Sauna Book

www.nenahsylver.com  

 

NEW! See my EarthRiches Etsy shop:

https://www.etsy.com/shop/EarthRiches 

Beautiful, handmade, one-of-a-kind items from

semiprecious stones for healing and enrichment

Re: CS>question

[Sandee George]

Suggestions for the cramps, lack of water, lack of Vit C, lack of salt just for 
starters 
Peace, love, good health, blessings & hugs 
Sandee 🐬
An Attitude of Gratitude & Awareness are Everything!!!
oha...@juno.com & or san...@spiceisle.com
Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops




On Nov 9, 2019, at 12:31 PM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:


With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what causes these 
excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night?.
I do not know what causes them nor what to take to eliminate them
Any suggestions would be appreciated even if it is not silver related
Thank you kindly
Christel

RE: CS>question

[Nenah Sylver]

Christel wrote: With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what 
causes these excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night? I do not 
know what causes them nor what to take to eliminate them Any suggestions would 
be appreciated even if it is not silver related

 



Most people are deficient in magnesium, which can lead to muscle cramps. Take a 
mixed magnesium complex supplement orally. Before bedtime, it will help you 
sleep. Magnesium "oil" can be rubbed into the sore areas topically.

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

 

Holiday combination packs will save you money!

The Rife Handbook NEW 5th Edition

Rife Therapy DVD set

Sauna Book

www.nenahsylver.com    

 

NEW! See my EarthRiches Etsy shop:

  https://www.etsy.com/shop/EarthRiches 

Beautiful, handmade, one-of-a-kind items from

semiprecious stones for healing and enrichment

Re: CS>question about earthing material

[Dan Nave]

Check out this site.  They have a lot of silver fabrics. It may be best to
contact them directly about any particular fabric to make sure that it is
100% fine silver.
< http://www.lessemf.com/fabric1.html#1230";

Dan

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 7:27 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> If James McDonald is still on this list.  Do you have a new supplier of
> the rip-stop silver fabric for the bandages?  The website you list below is
> not longer available.
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>
> On Saturday, January 26, 2013, 12:19:31 PM EST, James McDonald <
> kscma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I use their rip-stop silver fabric to make "powered silver bandages" I
> have several different sized cut(in the shape of bandaids & pads) with a
> small power source to run silver ios off of the "bandaids. My neighbor who
> has diabetess and had an ulcer from the knee to the ankle, it has been
> opened for over 5 years. It only took 2 months with wearing the silver
> bandaid 2 hours a day. Worked great! No scar's and healed nicely. I am
> making several of these so my kids will have them as well as neighbors who
> already want them. I have told them of the cost of material, they still
> want them. Buying the material in bulk would be cheaper, but I have just
> handwashed the silver fabric just to be extra careful!
>
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:37 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>question about earthing material
>
> A natural would be cotton or bamboo or silk interlaced with carbon
> thread.  If this is not available, I think one could buy carbon thread or
> conductive thread and just sew a few zig zag patterns in the foot region of
> a spread.  just glanced at this page with some conductive silver plated
> fabrics.  http://www.fine-silver-productsnet.com/shmefayaandf.html
>
> On 1/26/2013 12:01 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote:
>
> This is addressed to Bonita Poulin and anyone else who might know.
> Thanks to some very informative discussions in this group, I am ready
> to buy some Earthing material with which to make a half-sheet for my bed. 
> Bonita
> had written: “I just received the fabric and grounding cord I ordered
> from www.lessEMF.com <http://www.lessemf.com/> . The fabric covers most
> of my queen size bed. Total cost, including USDS shipping was $69.50, much
> cheaper than the ready made grounding sheets sold online.”
> It is indeed a great price. The only thing, the material sold on this
> site is polyester. I like natural fibers, and am wondering how comfortable
> you found this material. Also, have you felt better since sleeping on this?
> Researching more into this, I’ve found that the conductive silver
> threads can break (thus losing their conductivity), so the sheets must be
> handled carefully.
> Any info you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
> Nenah
>
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
> author, the NEW *Rife Handbook* (2011)
> *Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy* (2004)
> VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification
> www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>question about earthing material

[PT Ferrance]

If James McDonald is still on this list.  Do you have a new supplier of the 
rip-stop silver fabric for the bandages?  The website you list below is not 
longer available.Thanks.PT

On Saturday, January 26, 2013, 12:19:31 PM EST, James McDonald 
 wrote:  
 
 I use their rip-stop silver fabric to make "powered silver bandages" I have 
several different sized cut(in the shape of bandaids & pads) with a small power 
source to run silver ios off of the "bandaids. My neighbor who has diabetess 
and had an ulcer from the knee to the ankle, it has been opened for over 5 
years. It only took 2 months with wearing the silver bandaid 2 hours a day. 
Worked great! No scar's and healed nicely. I am making several of these so my 
kids will have them as well as neighbors who already want them. I have told 
them of the cost of material, they still want them. Buying the material in bulk 
would be cheaper, but I have just handwashed the silver fabric just to be extra 
careful!

 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:37 AM
 Subject: Re: CS>question about earthing material
   
  A natural would be cotton or bamboo or silk interlaced with carbon thread.  
If this is not available, I think one could buy carbon thread or conductive 
thread and just sew a few zig zag patterns in the foot region of a spread.  
just glanced at this page with some conductive silver plated fabrics.  
http://www.fine-silver-productsnet.com/shmefayaandf.html    
 
 On 1/26/2013 12:01 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote:
  
  This is addressed to Bonita Poulin and anyone else who might know.     Thanks 
to some very informative discussions in this group, I am ready to buy some 
Earthing material with which to make a half-sheet for my bed. Bonita had 
written: “I just received the fabric and grounding cord I ordered from 
www.lessEMF.com . The fabric covers most of my queen size bed. Total cost, 
including USDS shipping was $69.50, much cheaper than the ready made grounding 
sheets sold online.”     It is indeed a great price. The only thing, the 
material sold on this site is polyester. I like natural fibers, and  am 
wondering how comfortable you found this material. Also, have you felt better 
since sleeping on this?     Researching more into this, I’ve found that the 
conductive silver threads can break (thus losing their conductivity), so the 
sheets must be handled carefully.     Any info you can provide will be greatly 
appreciated.    Thanks. Nenah       Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife 
Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and 
Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com   
 
 

 

Re: CS>Question about melatonin...

[Deborah Gerard]

 Just to make it easier to take...wondered about how one would go about making 
it into a liquid then using a dropper.
On Thursday, January 24, 2019, 1:46:10 PM EST, Nenah Sylver 
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Why do you want to make it into a liquid? Whenever I use melatonin, I take a 
pinch of the powder onto my tongue. Not much is needed.

  

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health:

an integrated approach for cancer and other diseases 

NEW 5th Edition

www.nenahsylver.com  

 

 

  

From: Deborah Gerard  
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 11:26 AM
To: Silverlist Post 
Subject: CS>Question about melatonin...

  

Hi everyone,

  

I bought some Melatonin from PureBulk in powder form. I want to make it into a 
liquid and want to use CS. Can someone comment if this would be okay to do this 
will it affect it at all?

  

Thanks in advance,

  

Debbie
  

Re: CS>Question about melatonin...

[Sandee George]

I agree with you depending upon the strength of the melatonin 
Peace, love, good health, blessings &
Sandee🐬
An Attitude of Gratitude is Everything
oha...@juno.com & or 
san...@spiceisle.com
Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops

Re: CS>Question about melatonin...

[Sandee George]

Peace, love, good health, blessings &
Sandee🐬
An Attitude of Gratitude is Everything
oha...@juno.com & or 
san...@spiceisle.com
Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops

RE: CS>Question about melatonin...

[Nenah Sylver]

Debbie,

Why do you want to make it into a liquid? Whenever I use melatonin, I take a 
pinch of the powder onto my tongue. Not much is needed.

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health:

an integrated approach for cancer and other diseases 

NEW 5th Edition

  www.nenahsylver.com  

 

 

 

From: Deborah Gerard  
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 11:26 AM
To: Silverlist Post 
Subject: CS>Question about melatonin...

 

Hi everyone,

 

I bought some Melatonin from PureBulk in powder form. I want to make it into a 
liquid and want to use CS. Can someone comment if this would be okay to do this 
will it affect it at all?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Debbie

Re: CS>question for Ode

[Ode Coyote]

Look on ebay for 12 gauge silver wire, use 7" long pieces bent into some
semblance of a loop so spring tension will hold in  the electrode plate
holes

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:22 AM,  wrote:

> I did that also Ode and left a message and a private email to you.I bought
> the silver puppy years ago and it was working fine all these years.It is
> the small travel puppy and came with the looped silver rod.That got so thin
> in the center that it broke.Instead of 2 loops I have 4 thin pieces now.
> I need to know what replacement to get. The loops on your site are priced
> between 40 and 80 dollars. Surely there has to be a more reasonable priced
> silver rod.Please help me out and tell me what to get. .The puppy is not
> shutting down when finished either.Not sure if the rods have anything to do
> with it or not. I have used the broken loops to make it
> Please advise
> Thank you kindly
> Christel
>
> In a message dated 12/15/2017 6:43:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> silverpuppy1...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Ode here.
> I have not seen anything in a thread headline requesting my attention.
> You can always go to the website and use the customer contact thing.
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 12:46 AM, abel...@atlasnova.com <
> abela...@atlasnova.com> wrote:
>
>> Sadly, the silverlist has not been active for some time. If you're
>> looking for some good honest information on how to make the best possible
>> colloidal silver your best bet at this time is a thread called "the art of
>> making colloidal silver" it can be found at:
>>
>> http://goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver.61973/
>>
>> Several of the responders on the thread have a silverpuppy and they might
>> be able to help you with your questions. The thread is not owned by any
>> commercial interest and is open to everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *cat4...@aol.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:22 PM
>> *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Subject: *CS>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this list still active?Has not beenj anything posted in a long time.
>> Am trying to get in touch with ode with questions on my silver puppy but
>> can't get a response there either.someone please holler and tell me what's
>> going on. Thank you
>>
>> Christel
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: CS>question on H Pylori LINK TO DOCUMENT FOR CHRISTEL

[Rowena]

I think my reply got stuck somewhere; I've put the material through 
Notepad to strip any attachments, so here goes again:





Does anyone know if h pylori can be treated without the 20 antibiotics 
they want me to take?

Mastic gum certainly.
You could look into Propolis too.


Melatonin treats H. pylori and gastric ulcers and more
Jacob Schor, ND, FABNO
www.DenverNaturopathic.com
June 24, 2013
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BLACK SEED OIL!
Black Seeds Useful for Helicobacter pylori Infection

In 2010, Saudi Arabian researchers indicated that a large number of 
diseases are ascribed to Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori), particularly 
chronic active gastritis, peptic ulcer disease and gastric cancer. 
Successful treatment of H. pylori infection with antimicrobial agents 
can lead to regression of H. pylori-associated disorders. H. pylori 
resistance against antibiotics is increasing, and it is necessary to 
find new effective agents. Nigella sativa seed (black seeds), a commonly 
used herb, possesses anti-helicobacter activity.



The present study was undertaken to evaluate the efficacy of black seeds 
for the eradication of H. pylori infection in 88 human non-ulcer 
dyspeptic patients. Patients were randomly assigned to four groups. The 
groups received various combinations of clarithromycin and/or 
amoxicillin (antibiotics), omeprazole (anti gastric reflex drug), and 
black seed oil. Researchers found that black seeds possess clinically 
useful anti-H. pylori activity, comparable to the combined use of all 
three drugs that were tested. [16]


Below are some quotes from notes I took from a website about Hpylori; I 
don't seem to have the exact link noted but it is here somewhere: 
http://www.mygutsy.com/healing-update-5/ http://www.dramyyasko.com
Plenty of info; the condensed document I made is 17 pages long. I'll 
forward you a copy.

Quotes:

·   Herbs-There are so many to count but there is good list 
that are proven to kill it effectively. (I have lists below)


·   Baking soda or acids- Which one do you choose? It is 
important to understand the “science” behind it all to know HOW to get 
rid of h. pylori. Read the section “a note on acids”


·   Gums: (I did not want to include this in “herbs” so it 
got its own category. Mastic gum is the most common and very good at 
killing h. pylori.


Researchers in Australia made that startling discovery about the true 
cause of ulcers in the early 1980s, at about the same time that mastic 
was being rediscovered by the Arab scientists in the Middle East. The 
Arab and British researchers subsequently (in the late 1990s) found that 
mastic kills H. pylori. By then it was known that H. pylori typically 
infects the stomach and intestines, but it is also commonly found in the 
mouth (which is, after all, part of the gastrointestinal tract), because 
there’s no way to prevent the bacteria from migrating up and down the 
esophagus


Benefits:

·   effective at eradicating h. pylori

·   helps prevent cavities -specifically Streptococcus 
mutans- known to create cavities. (the bacteria travels from stomach to 
the mouth)


·   acts as prebiotics for your probiotic (natural source of 
food for your healthy bacteria- helps keep bad bacteria out)


·   soothes stomach ailments

·   eliminates stomach ulcers

·   “absorbs” bad cholesterol –helps reduce heart attack risk

·   anti-bacterial and anti-fungal

·   decreases symptoms of IBS

·   helps protect liver by decreasing certain liver enzymes.

·   anti-viral



warning:

·   Usually considered safe unless you have a true allergy 
to the cashew family. It can be used by people on medications, but to be 
safe, check with your doctor first.







Probiotic:

I take custom probiotic 11 strain (affiliate link). Gut pro and 
prescript assist are also good. Both of these are free of fillers. There 
are many strains that are superior in killing h. pylori, but when I did 
my research I found that Custom probitoics was the best fit for me. Be 
careful because they are powerful and can cause detox/die off.


Here is an article going over the “best strains” for eradication h. 
pylori. They don’t “kill” the h. pylori but they prevent any further grown.


Studies have also highlighted probiotic supplementation to enhance 
natural killer cell activity, stimulate IgG antibody responses


·   L. acidophilus- reduce urease activity of h. pylori.

·   L. johnsonii- secrete antimicrobial substances that stop 
the h.pylori from adhering to the gut lining.


·   L. salivarius- secrete antimicrobial substances that 
stop the h.pylori from adhering to the gut lining. Reduce inflammation 
in gut


·   L. casei- inhibits h. pylori by lactic acid

· 

Re: CS>question on H Pylori LINK TO DOCUMENT FOR CHRISTEL

[Rowena]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15397278/HPylori.doc

This is a link to a 2MB document I made out of notes as mentioned in a 
post I made a little earlier.


I can't send it to you direct and don't like to clog up the silver-list 
storage, if it would even accept it.


Anyone can download it - it's on my own dropbox - a bit more convenient 
to read printed out on paper than on screen, I think. But, it's 17 pages 
of close-fitting type!


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15397278/HPylori.doc


On 14/11/2016 4:02 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:
Does anyone know if h pylori can be treated without the 20 antibiotics 
they want me to take?

Thank you
christel

Re: CS>question on H Pylori

[Lena Guyot]

I'd have to look it up in the CAFL list. My computer is being very pokey and my 
eyes are fried. Sorry. Just google 'CAFL list' and you'll find 'h.pylori'. L
On Nov 13, 2016, at 8:32 PM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:

> would you be so kind and post the frequency/ I do not own a rife machine but 
> have a frequency generator.
> Have not used it in ages but maybe it still works.
>  
> In a message dated 11/13/2016 8:15:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> drumr...@stny.rr.com writes:
> Yes! Once, every few years, I get that painful anxious feeling in my gut that 
> feels like the beginning of an ulcer. Having been told that h. pylori is main 
> the cause of ulcers, I use the CAFL Rife frx for it and within a day or two, 
> it's history. Just my experience: nota doc just a Lymie lab-rat.
> 
> Be well,
> Léna
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Robert Larson wrote:
> 
>> did a rife machine kill yours?
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 13, 2016 1:40 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:
>> Rife machines have frequencies that knock it out very easily. Or seriously 
>> use CS.L
>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 3:02 PM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know if h pylori can be treated without the 20 antibiotics they 
>> want me to take?
>> Thank you
>> christel
>> 
>> 
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>> Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour v>
> 
> =

Re: CS>question on H Pylori

[Cat4461]

would you be so kind and post the frequency/ I do not own a rife machine  
but have a frequency generator.
Have not used it in ages but maybe it still works.
 
 
In a message dated 11/13/2016 8:15:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
drumr...@stny.rr.com writes:

Yes! Once, every few years, I get that  painful anxious feeling in my gut 
that feels like the beginning of an ulcer.  Having been told that h. pylori 
is main the cause of ulcers, I use the CAFL  Rife frx for it and within a day 
or two, it's history. Just my experience: not  a doc just a Lymie lab-rat.  

Be well,
Léna

On Nov 13, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Robert Larson wrote:


did a rife machine kill yours? 

On Nov 13, 2016 1:40 PM, Lena Guyot <_drumr...@stny.rr.com_ 
(mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com) > wrote:

Rife machines have  frequencies that knock it out very easily. Or seriously 
use CS.  L

On Nov 13, 2016, at 3:02 PM, _Cat4461@aol.com_ (mailto:cat4...@aol.com)  
wrote:






Does anyone know if h pylori can be treated without the 20  antibiotics 
they want me to take?
Thank you
christel





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=

Re: CS>question on H Pylori

[Lena Guyot]

Yes! Once, every few years, I get that painful anxious feeling in my gut that 
feels like the beginning of an ulcer. Having been told that h. pylori is main 
the cause of ulcers, I use the CAFL Rife frx for it and within a day or two, 
it's history. Just my experience: not a doc just a Lymie lab-rat.

Be well,
Léna
On Nov 13, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Robert Larson wrote:

> did a rife machine kill yours?
> 
> 
> On Nov 13, 2016 1:40 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:
> Rife machines have frequencies that knock it out very easily. Or seriously 
> use CS. L
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 3:02 PM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if h pylori can be treated without the 20 antibiotics they 
> want me to take?
> Thank you
> christel
> 
> 
> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html 
> Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour v>

Re: CS>question on H Pylori

[Robert Larson]

did a rife machine kill yours?
On Nov 13, 2016 1:40 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:Rife machines have frequencies that knock it out very easily. Or seriously use CS. LOn Nov 13, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Cat4461@aol.com wrote:




Does anyone know if h pylori can be treated without the 20 antibiotics they 
want me to take?
Thank you
christel

Re: CS>question on H Pylori

[Lena Guyot]

Rife machines have frequencies that knock it out very easily. Or seriously use 
CS. L
On Nov 13, 2016, at 3:02 PM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:

> Does anyone know if h pylori can be treated without the 20 antibiotics they 
> want me to take?
> Thank you
> christel

Re: CS>question on H Pylori

[Deborah Gerard]

By all means Christel try not to take their antibiotics unless you research 
them thoroughly CS is not effective with H pylori? 

On Sunday, November 13, 2016 2:45 PM, "phoenix23...@tds.net" 
 wrote:
 

 #yiv5224253313 body 
{height:100%;color:#00;font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman, new 
york, times, serif;}Hi, christel...  My understanding is that DGL and Mastic 
Gum can help to clear up H pylori.  You can
probably google alternative treatments of H pylori and find the protocol for 
using these two products.Lola
- Original Message -
From: cat4...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 15:02:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: CS>question on H Pylori


Does anyone know if h pylori can be treated without the 20 antibiotics they 
want me to take?Thank youchristel


   

Re: CS>question on H Pylori

[phoenix23...@tds.net]

Hi, christel...  My understanding is that DGL and Mastic Gum can help to clear 
up H pylori.  You can
probably google alternative treatments of H pylori and find the protocol for 
using these two products.Lola
- Original Message -
From: cat4...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 15:02:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: CS>question on H Pylori


Does anyone know if h pylori can be treated without the 20 antibiotics they 
want me to take?Thank youchristel

Re: CS>question for Jason

[Dee]

Hi Sandee, lovely to hear from you, I believe our water contains all sorts of 
contaminants ie the reading of 350 or thereabouts before distilling.  I believe 
it contains chlorine etc., but even so, it still reads '0' after distilling.  I 
realise also that the meter is not accurate per say but accurate enough for 
that I would think.  The CS I make is always, without exception, clear.  I can 
go up to thirty but don't, I normally have it about 15.

You take care Sandee and actually it's cold here, but not too bad by world 
standards I believeregards Dee

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Feb 2015, at 16:13, Sandra George  wrote:
> 
> Hi There Dee I think it depends upon the composition of the water - the study 
> of water is very complex and very interesting, which is why I told you years 
> ago that you needed to find distilled water with a “0" reading on the TDS 
> meter, this was one of the first things I learned about making good quality 
> colloidal silver.Your distiller is obviously a very good one, mine does 
> not give me a reading of “0” all the time, so I am aware of the different 
> compositions which 
> the so called distilled water I purchase has, which sometimes causes me to 
> have to do a double or triple distillation to
> get to as near a “0” reading as is possible.Of course you can make 
> colloidal silver with a less clean water, however
> for me to do a distillation is not a problem as I do it over night, and then 
> use it first thing in the morning sometimes
> it is still warm which of course enhances the process of making the colloidal 
> silver by cutting down the time to get 
> whatever reading you choose to have for your brew, mine I stop at 10 and then 
> it settles over time in storage to 5 
> For my gel I run the process up to 20 and make the gel immediately to 
> disallow for settle !The tricks of the trade.
> Take good care and have a wonderful day in that not too bad today weather 
> over your side 
> Regards
> Sandee🐬
> Attitude is everything !!!
> Sandra George
> Colloidal Silver Products
> Eye Drops & Topical Gel
> aliveagai...@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 20 Feb 2015, at 11:49, Dee  wrote:
> 
> Why do you have to triple distill sol! We have very hard water here and I 
> just distill once.  The water consistently reads '0' on my meter (cheap from 
> Amazon) when distilled whereas it read over 300 before distillingDee
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 20 Feb 2015, at 14:47, sol  wrote:
>> 
>> I have cleaned my SG-6  brew jar (gallon) and installed brand new electrodes.
>> I don't remember you mentioning if cleaning with peroxide is ok? Well rinsed 
>> afterward with DW, wiped dry with clean paper towelling.
>> Electrodes wiped with paper towelling wetted with DW.
>> 
>> The DW reads 1.7 uS on my PWT.  Not 0.3 unfortunately, but the best I have 
>> at the moment.
>> 
>> I have set the generator to the lowest setting, and plan to check tyndal 
>> when it shuts off.
>> From there I will decide whether to stop at that point and check uS or raise 
>> the setting a bit and check again and so on to see how the tyndal changes, 
>> and whether I have sparklies at any point.
>> 
>> I don't expect to get  a 10 uS product with no or faint tyndal and no 
>> sparklies but I should get a much better product, right?
>> 
>> I no longer have a distiller, so 0.3uS distilled water isn't going to be 
>> available, and to be honest, I don't see me ever getting another distiller 
>> and double or triple distilling to get the water down to that level. Just 
>> can't manage it anymore.
>> 
>> what do you think?
>> sol
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Re: CS>question for Jason

[Sandra George]

Hi There Dee I think it depends upon the composition of the water - the study 
of water is very complex and very interesting, which is why I told you years 
ago that you needed to find distilled water with a “0" reading on the TDS 
meter, this was one of the first things I learned about making good quality 
colloidal silver.Your distiller is obviously a very good one, mine does not 
give me a reading of “0” all the time, so I am aware of the different 
compositions which 
the so called distilled water I purchase has, which sometimes causes me to have 
to do a double or triple distillation to
get to as near a “0” reading as is possible.Of course you can make 
colloidal silver with a less clean water, however
for me to do a distillation is not a problem as I do it over night, and then 
use it first thing in the morning sometimes
it is still warm which of course enhances the process of making the colloidal 
silver by cutting down the time to get 
whatever reading you choose to have for your brew, mine I stop at 10 and then 
it settles over time in storage to 5 
For my gel I run the process up to 20 and make the gel immediately to disallow 
for settle !The tricks of the trade.
Take good care and have a wonderful day in that not too bad today weather over 
your side 
Regards
Sandee🐬
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops & Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 20 Feb 2015, at 11:49, Dee  wrote:

Why do you have to triple distill sol! We have very hard water here and I just 
distill once.  The water consistently reads '0' on my meter (cheap from Amazon) 
when distilled whereas it read over 300 before distillingDee

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Feb 2015, at 14:47, sol  wrote:
> 
> I have cleaned my SG-6  brew jar (gallon) and installed brand new electrodes.
> I don't remember you mentioning if cleaning with peroxide is ok? Well rinsed 
> afterward with DW, wiped dry with clean paper towelling.
> Electrodes wiped with paper towelling wetted with DW.
> 
> The DW reads 1.7 uS on my PWT.  Not 0.3 unfortunately, but the best I have at 
> the moment.
> 
> I have set the generator to the lowest setting, and plan to check tyndal when 
> it shuts off.
> From there I will decide whether to stop at that point and check uS or raise 
> the setting a bit and check again and so on to see how the tyndal changes, 
> and whether I have sparklies at any point.
> 
> I don't expect to get  a 10 uS product with no or faint tyndal and no 
> sparklies but I should get a much better product, right?
> 
> I no longer have a distiller, so 0.3uS distilled water isn't going to be 
> available, and to be honest, I don't see me ever getting another distiller 
> and double or triple distilling to get the water down to that level. Just 
> can't manage it anymore.
> 
> what do you think?
> sol
> 
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[sol]

Dee wrote:

Why do you have to triple distill sol! We have very hard water here and I just 
distill once.  The water consistently reads '0' on my meter (cheap from Amazon) 
when distilled whereas it read over 300 before distillingDee

  

Dee,
I don't have to double or triple distill since I haven't had a 
distiller for years and years now. Might have been air contaminants or 
water contaminants.  Ode and I used to discuss the issue a lot. But used 
to be my DW absolutely had to read 0.3uS  on my Hanna PWT meter or I'd 
get CS that was not clear. I believe your meter must be a TDS, and I 
don't know what your '0' reading equates to on a PWT, but I know the 
range is different. Anyhoo, when my distiller was new, one pass did it, 
but as the still aged, it took two or more passes to get the DW pure 
enough. Funnily enough, I now get clear CS with commercial DW that reads 
up to about 3.0 uS. But in the old days, commercial DW here often read 
7.0 to even 10.0 on my PWT. Made very bad CS.

sol

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Re: CS>question for Jason

[sol]

Truthfully, I was a bit shocked at the condition of my brew jar. Silver 
was even plating out on the sides of the jar.
And don't know why I didn't want to "waste silver" by cleaning 
electrodes. I'm 69 and have several sets on hand, more than enough to 
last out my lifetime and then some, LOL.
It is easy to get into a rut when one is disabled, well easy anytime 
probably, but more so when disabled and in pain all the time.
I certainly won't go crazy obsessed over my CS. Did that the first 2-3 
years, and no longer have the energy for it.

Thanks so much,
sol


Jason wrote:

Hi Sol:

Yes, I always clean the container with hydrogen peroxide, then rinse 
with distilled water.


Yes, your EIS will be completely fine.

You don't have to go crazy to get a good end product, especially with 
the Silverpuppy or Silvergen.  :o)


~Jason





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Re: CS>question for Jason

[Dee]

Why do you have to triple distill sol! We have very hard water here and I just 
distill once.  The water consistently reads '0' on my meter (cheap from Amazon) 
when distilled whereas it read over 300 before distillingDee

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Feb 2015, at 14:47, sol  wrote:
> 
> I have cleaned my SG-6  brew jar (gallon) and installed brand new electrodes.
> I don't remember you mentioning if cleaning with peroxide is ok? Well rinsed 
> afterward with DW, wiped dry with clean paper towelling.
> Electrodes wiped with paper towelling wetted with DW.
> 
> The DW reads 1.7 uS on my PWT.  Not 0.3 unfortunately, but the best I have at 
> the moment.
> 
> I have set the generator to the lowest setting, and plan to check tyndal when 
> it shuts off.
> From there I will decide whether to stop at that point and check uS or raise 
> the setting a bit and check again and so on to see how the tyndal changes, 
> and whether I have sparklies at any point.
> 
> I don't expect to get  a 10 uS product with no or faint tyndal and no 
> sparklies but I should get a much better product, right?
> 
> I no longer have a distiller, so 0.3uS distilled water isn't going to be 
> available, and to be honest, I don't see me ever getting another distiller 
> and double or triple distilling to get the water down to that level. Just 
> can't manage it anymore.
> 
> what do you think?
> sol
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Re: CS>question for Jason

[Jason]

Hi Sol:

Yes, I always clean the container with hydrogen peroxide, then rinse 
with distilled water.


Yes, your EIS will be completely fine.

You don't have to go crazy to get a good end product, especially with 
the Silverpuppy or Silvergen.  :o)


~Jason


On 2/20/2015 6:47 AM, sol wrote:

I have cleaned my SG-6  brew jar (gallon) and installed brand new
electrodes.
I don't remember you mentioning if cleaning with peroxide is ok? Well
rinsed afterward with DW, wiped dry with clean paper towelling.
Electrodes wiped with paper towelling wetted with DW.

The DW reads 1.7 uS on my PWT.  Not 0.3 unfortunately, but the best I
have at the moment.

I have set the generator to the lowest setting, and plan to check tyndal
when it shuts off.
 From there I will decide whether to stop at that point and check uS or
raise the setting a bit and check again and so on to see how the tyndal
changes, and whether I have sparklies at any point.

I don't expect to get  a 10 uS product with no or faint tyndal and no
sparklies but I should get a much better product, right?

I no longer have a distiller, so 0.3uS distilled water isn't going to be
available, and to be honest, I don't see me ever getting another
distiller and double or triple distilling to get the water down to that
level. Just can't manage it anymore.

what do you think?
sol



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Re: CS>Question about CS and eyes

[mborgert]

what are ms crystals?
Mary
On Sat, 10/25/14, phoenix23002 tds.net  wrote:

 Subject: Re: CS>Question about CS and eyes
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, October 25, 2014, 9:23 AM
 
 Bernadette.. this
 was a reply from Vicki Hood on this list a while back to a
 question about treating cataracts (had to dig it out). 
 This was posted
 back in Nov, 2011.  Maybe you can find the original
 discussion in the archives.. Lola H.
  
  did my own.  Years ago i did the research and took
 the best of the research.  tried it on myself and then dogs
 in need. Worked every time.  Start 3or 4 x a day, cut back
 according to severity of the cataracts.   Go figure---if
 it doesn't work (and it always does) it cannot hurt
 you.  Buy gentle eye solution (nonsting) add 15% MS
 crystals.  That would be 1 teaspoon for each ounce of eye
 solution. Thats not perfect measure but close enough.  
 Keep everything clean as you can.  Each eye,  1or 2 drops
 RAW flax oil (not from caps but from the fridge at the
 health store ---Barleans is good).  5 mins to half hour
 later drop or 2 of eye solution. The dogs i treat often have
 this goober grub in the corner of their eye after about 3 or
 4 days.  Cataracts come off in layers.  Now this does not
 correct the nearsight or farsight like lens implant
 surgery.  Sure does take that piece of white sheet off of
 dogs and my eyes.  I like to keep it up for maybe 6 weeks
 after i have cut back to couple times a week.  Even longer
 if you want.  Save a dogs life.  Many people cannot afford
 surgery for their dogs.  The last dog i did was 16.  It
 made a whole new tailwagger.  i could see it.  Dogs with
 pressure behind eye (glaucoma) usually have bulging eye. 
 That hurts like the worst of migraine and needs meds from a
 vet.  Please do not let them suffer.  Cataracts and
 glaucoma are 2 different things.  I am not medically
 trained.  I love the best of the research i do.  Just
 passing it on if you care to try.  It worked for me and
 mine.  
 
 On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at
 3:37 PM, Bernadette Burch 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Thanks everyone with your suggestions on cataracts.  
 I will read up on your protocols and hopefully be able to
 make a well informed decision.
 
 
 B.
 
 Sent from my
 iPad
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Victor
 Cozzetto 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Along those lines I would recommend the
 Magnetic Pulser from the Beck Protocol. Dr. Beck provided
 schematics for building it, but you can also get a
 manufactured model from Sota Instruments. I have used two
 sets of devices from Sota over the years, and they are
 excellent. 
 
 
 I do not have any direct experience with cataracts, but
 I have seen the pulser do many amazing things, and read
 testimonials about its success against cataracts. That is
 what I would use if I had cataracts.
 
 
 I am also one that sprays my eyes with CS whenever they
 feel icky.
 
 
 Victor
 
 
 On Fri, Oct 24, 2014
 at 10:52 AM, Walter Anderson 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Being related to
 circulation, another more expensive option is PEMT (Pulsed
 Eletro-Magnetic Therapy). Bemer has a video on YouTube about
 its effect on cataracts. I suspect a Rhumart might have
 similar effects as they both increase circulation. Not
 cheap, but we have found PEMT very useful for things from
 bruises to joint issues.
 
 Walter
  
 
 
 From: Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net]
 
 Sent: Thu, Oct. 23, 2014 14:02
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com;
 silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS>Question about CS and
 eyes
  
 
 Yes lots of exercise. 
 Walk quite a bit with dogs, grandchildren and great
 grandchild.  Work in the vegetable gardens and can, etc.
 all summer.  I don't go to the gym as I don't like
 to go there.  Husband and I don't sit still too long as
 there is always something to do.  So all that said.I
 hope I don't have to start going to the gym!
 
 Sent from my
 iPad
 
 
 On Oct 23,
 2014, at 4:47 PM, PT Ferrance 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 It is my
 understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory
 issues... not moving the debris out of the lens.  Do you
 get any exercise?
 
 PT
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Bernadette Burch
 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014
 4:43 PM
 Subject: CS>Question about
 CS and eyes
 
 
 I am a 70 year old female in excellent health,
 and I do not take any medications.  I do not wear
 prescription glasses.  Today at my annual eye appointment
 the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but
 still no glasses needed.  He then said he could see start
 of cataracts, but nothing to worry about for a long time. 
 My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help prevent any
 cataract formation?  I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt
 or a bug in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and
 would have some pasty eye feeling and this knocks whatever
 is forming straight out of eyes. 
 
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Than

Re: CS>Question about CS and eyes

[phoenix23002 tds.net]

Bernadette.. this was a reply from Vicki Hood on this list a while back to
a question about treating cataracts (had to dig it out).  This was posted
back in Nov, 2011.  Maybe you can find the original discussion in the
archives.. Lola H.

 did my own.  Years ago i did the research and took the best of the
research.  tried it on myself and then dogs in need. Worked every time.
Start 3or 4 x a day, cut back according to severity of the cataracts.   Go
figure---if it doesn't work (and it always does) it cannot hurt you.  Buy
gentle eye solution (nonsting) add 15% MS crystals.  That would be 1
teaspoon for each ounce of eye solution. Thats not perfect measure but
close enough.   Keep everything clean as you can.  Each eye,  1or 2 drops
RAW flax oil (not from caps but from the fridge at the health store
---Barleans is good).  5 mins to half hour later drop or 2 of eye solution.
The dogs i treat often have this goober grub in the corner of their eye
after about 3 or 4 days.  Cataracts come off in layers.  Now this does not
correct the nearsight or farsight like lens implant surgery.  Sure does
take that piece of white sheet off of dogs and my eyes.  I like to keep it
up for maybe 6 weeks after i have cut back to couple times a week.  Even
longer if you want.  Save a dogs life.  Many people cannot afford surgery
for their dogs.  The last dog i did was 16.  It made a whole new
tailwagger.  i could see it.  Dogs with pressure behind eye (glaucoma)
usually have bulging eye.  That hurts like the worst of migraine and needs
meds from a vet.  Please do not let them suffer.  Cataracts and glaucoma
are 2 different things.  I am not medically trained.  I love the best of
the research i do.  Just passing it on if you care to try.  It worked for
me and mine.
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Bernadette Burch  wrote:

>  Thanks everyone with your suggestions on cataracts.   I will read up on
> your protocols and hopefully be able to make a well informed decision.
>
> B.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Victor Cozzetto 
> wrote:
>
>  Along those lines I would recommend the Magnetic Pulser from the Beck
> Protocol. Dr. Beck provided schematics for building it, but you can also
> get a manufactured model from Sota Instruments. I have used two sets of
> devices from Sota over the years, and they are excellent.
>
> I do not have any direct experience with cataracts, but I have seen the
> pulser do many amazing things, and read testimonials about its success
> against cataracts. That is what I would use if I had cataracts.
>
> I am also one that sprays my eyes with CS whenever they feel icky.
>
> Victor
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Walter Anderson <
> walter.ander...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>>  Being related to circulation, another more expensive option is PEMT
>> (Pulsed Eletro-Magnetic Therapy). Bemer has a video on YouTube about its
>> effect on cataracts. I suspect a Rhumart might have similar effects as they
>> both increase circulation. Not cheap, but we have found PEMT very useful
>> for things from bruises to joint issues.
>>
>> Walter
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net]
>> *Sent:* Thu, Oct. 23, 2014 14:02
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Subject:* Re: CS>Question about CS and eyes
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes lots of exercise.  Walk quite a bit with dogs, grandchildren and
>> great grandchild.  Work in the vegetable gardens and can, etc. all summer.
>> I don't go to the gym as I don't like to go there.  Husband and I don't sit
>> still too long as there is always something to do.  So all that said.I
>> hope I don't have to start going to the gym!
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:47 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
>>
>> It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory
>> issues... not moving the debris out of the lens.  Do you get any exercise?
>>
>> PT
>>
>>
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* Bernadette Burch 
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM
>> *Subject:* CS>Question about CS and eyes
>>
>>
>> I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any
>> medications.  I do not wear prescription glasses.  Today at my annual eye
>> appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still
>> no glasses needed.  He then said he could see start of cataracts, but
>> nothing to worry about for a long time.  My question is would a daily eye
>> wash of CS help prevent any cataract formation?  I do use CS eye wash when
>> 

Re: CS>Question about CS and eyes

[Bernadette Burch]

Thanks everyone with your suggestions on cataracts.   I will read up on your 
protocols and hopefully be able to make a well informed decision.

B.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Victor Cozzetto  wrote:

Along those lines I would recommend the Magnetic Pulser from the Beck Protocol. 
Dr. Beck provided schematics for building it, but you can also get a 
manufactured model from Sota Instruments. I have used two sets of devices from 
Sota over the years, and they are excellent.

I do not have any direct experience with cataracts, but I have seen the pulser 
do many amazing things, and read testimonials about its success against 
cataracts. That is what I would use if I had cataracts.

I am also one that sprays my eyes with CS whenever they feel icky.

Victor

> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Walter Anderson 
>  wrote:
> Being related to circulation, another more expensive option is PEMT (Pulsed 
> Eletro-Magnetic Therapy). Bemer has a video on YouTube about its effect on 
> cataracts. I suspect a Rhumart might have similar effects as they both 
> increase circulation. Not cheap, but we have found PEMT very useful for 
> things from bruises to joint issues.
> 
> Walter
> 
>  
> 
> From: Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net] 
> Sent: Thu, Oct. 23, 2014 14:02
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Question about CS and eyes
> 
>  
> 
> Yes lots of exercise.  Walk quite a bit with dogs, grandchildren and great 
> grandchild.  Work in the vegetable gardens and can, etc. all summer.  I don't 
> go to the gym as I don't like to go there.  Husband and I don't sit still too 
> long as there is always something to do.  So all that said.I hope I don't 
> have to start going to the gym!
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:47 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
> 
> It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory issues... 
> not moving the debris out of the lens.  Do you get any exercise?
> 
> PT
> 
>  
> 
> From: Bernadette Burch 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM
> Subject: CS>Question about CS and eyes
> 
> 
> I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any 
> medications.  I do not wear prescription glasses.  Today at my annual eye 
> appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no 
> glasses needed.  He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to 
> worry about for a long time.  My question is would a daily eye wash of CS 
> help prevent any cataract formation?  I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or 
> a bug in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty 
> eye feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. 
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.
> 
> B.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: CS>Question about CS and eyes

[Victor Cozzetto]

Along those lines I would recommend the Magnetic Pulser from the Beck
Protocol. Dr. Beck provided schematics for building it, but you can also
get a manufactured model from Sota Instruments. I have used two sets of
devices from Sota over the years, and they are excellent.

I do not have any direct experience with cataracts, but I have seen the
pulser do many amazing things, and read testimonials about its success
against cataracts. That is what I would use if I had cataracts.

I am also one that sprays my eyes with CS whenever they feel icky.

Victor

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Walter Anderson <
walter.ander...@outlook.com> wrote:

> Being related to circulation, another more expensive option is PEMT
> (Pulsed Eletro-Magnetic Therapy). Bemer has a video on YouTube about its
> effect on cataracts. I suspect a Rhumart might have similar effects as they
> both increase circulation. Not cheap, but we have found PEMT very useful
> for things from bruises to joint issues.
>
> Walter
>
>
>
> *From:* Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net]
> *Sent:* Thu, Oct. 23, 2014 14:02
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Question about CS and eyes
>
>
>
> Yes lots of exercise.  Walk quite a bit with dogs, grandchildren and great
> grandchild.  Work in the vegetable gardens and can, etc. all summer.  I
> don't go to the gym as I don't like to go there.  Husband and I don't sit
> still too long as there is always something to do.  So all that said.I
> hope I don't have to start going to the gym!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:47 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
>
> It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory issues...
> not moving the debris out of the lens.  Do you get any exercise?
>
> PT
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* Bernadette Burch 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM
> *Subject:* CS>Question about CS and eyes
>
>
> I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any
> medications.  I do not wear prescription glasses.  Today at my annual eye
> appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still
> no glasses needed.  He then said he could see start of cataracts, but
> nothing to worry about for a long time.  My question is would a daily eye
> wash of CS help prevent any cataract formation?  I do use CS eye wash when
> I get dirt or a bug in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would
> have some pasty eye feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight
> out of eyes.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.
>
> B.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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RE: CS>Question about CS and eyes

[Walter Anderson]

Being related to circulation, another more expensive option is PEMT (Pulsed 
Eletro-Magnetic Therapy). Bemer has a video on YouTube about its effect on 
cataracts. I suspect a Rhumart might have similar effects as they both increase 
circulation. Not cheap, but we have found PEMT very useful for things from 
bruises to joint issues.

Walter

 

From: Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net] 
Sent: Thu, Oct. 23, 2014 14:02
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Question about CS and eyes

 

Yes lots of exercise.  Walk quite a bit with dogs, grandchildren and great 
grandchild.  Work in the vegetable gardens and can, etc. all summer.  I don't 
go to the gym as I don't like to go there.  Husband and I don't sit still too 
long as there is always something to do.  So all that said.I hope I don't 
have to start going to the gym!

Sent from my iPad


On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:47 PM, PT Ferrance mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory issues... not 
moving the debris out of the lens.  Do you get any exercise?

PT

 

  _  

From: Bernadette Burch mailto:bernade...@pa.net> >
To: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>  
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: CS>Question about CS and eyes


I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any 
medications.  I do not wear prescription glasses.  Today at my annual eye 
appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no 
glasses needed.  He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to 
worry about for a long time.  My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help 
prevent any cataract formation?  I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug 
in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye 
feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.

B.

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Re: CS>Question about CS and eyes

[Sandra George]

Hi There B - I use EIS to wash out my eyes both morning and evening before bed 
and when I wake in the morning - I was told some twelve years ago that I had 
cataracts and would have to have them removed,
I found an eye drop perfected from Russia for their soldiers to see well at 
night, the drops are called Natural Cineraria and you can get them from Natural 
Opthalmmics, they are also available on Amazon - I also use
MSM drops which take care of the free floating radicals - cataracts are caused 
from an over production of proteins by the body due to lack of exercise and or 
not ridding the body of toxins    I go to the same eye doctors and they are 
totally at sea to understand how my cataracts have either gone or have been 
reduced
and have no effect on my vision Happy testing    I am now a happy 
75 year old enjoying life 
Sandee🐬
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
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On 23 Oct 2014, at 16:43, Bernadette Burch  wrote:

I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any 
medications.  I do not wear prescription glasses.  Today at my annual eye 
appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no 
glasses needed.  He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to 
worry about for a long time.  My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help 
prevent any cataract formation?  I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug 
in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye 
feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.

B.

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Re: CS>Question about CS and eyes

[Bernadette Burch]

Yes lots of exercise.  Walk quite a bit with dogs, grandchildren and great 
grandchild.  Work in the vegetable gardens and can, etc. all summer.  I don't 
go to the gym as I don't like to go there.  Husband and I don't sit still too 
long as there is always something to do.  So all that said.I hope I don't 
have to start going to the gym!

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:47 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory issues... not 
moving the debris out of the lens.  Do you get any exercise?
PT
 
From: Bernadette Burch 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: CS>Question about CS and eyes

I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any 
medications.  I do not wear prescription glasses.  Today at my annual eye 
appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no 
glasses needed.  He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to 
worry about for a long time.  My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help 
prevent any cataract formation?  I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug 
in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye 
feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.

B.

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Re: CS>Question about CS and eyes

[PT Ferrance]

It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory issues... not 
moving the debris out of the lens.  Do you get any exercise?
PT

 


 From: Bernadette Burch 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: CS>Question about CS and eyes
 

I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any 
medications.  I do not wear prescription glasses.  Today at my annual eye 
appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no 
glasses needed.  He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to 
worry about for a long time.  My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help 
prevent any cataract formation?  I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug 
in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye 
feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.

B.

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Re: CS>Question......

[Michael Brown]

Thank-you for the fascinating info, I will research the links as well.  
   Sincerely, mlbrown

>

Re: CS>Question......

[Dan Nave]

This was Robert L. Berger (Ole Bob to us EISers)

Dan


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:

> Ole Bob wrote:
>
> "The History of Colloidal Silver
>
> "Silver has been used throughout history by the aristocracy
> for plates and drinking vessels, and its use has been a
> source of protection from the ravages that affect the mass of
> humanity. Our pioneers would add a silver dollar to the milk
> buckets to prolong the useful life. If you so choose you can add
> a tablespoon of your silver product to a gallon of milk and it
> will not spoil for weeks.
>
> "Prior to the discovery of penicillin there were over
> ninety US letters patents of silver compounds for medicinal
> purposes. It was during 1917 that Dr . Henry Crooke conducted
> 2,000 tests proving that silver solutions would kill
> almost all pathogens. Since ionic silver solutions could not be
> patented, the Food and Drug Administration was moved by the
> pharmaceutical companies not to approve its use by the American
> Medical Association.
>
> "For those who want an in-depth look at the history of
> the use of silver for human well being I suggest that you visit
> the Google.com web site and enter "colloidal silver ." Another
> worthwhile web site is at www.silverinstitute.org in Washington
> D. C. You will enjoy the www.silverlon.com web site as
> their product has been approved by the FDA and the AMA.
>
> "If the web site is selling a product be careful what you
> believe about their product, as everyone thinks theirs is the best.
>
> "Circa 1953 there was an article in the Reader's Digest
> on the role that silver played in the building of the Burma road
> during world War II . Shortly after construction began everything
> stopped due to dysentery and diarrhea from the water
> supply. An English doctor gathe red up a number ofD batteries
> and silver coins, which he took to India.
>
> "The coins were converted into wires about a meter long
> and one was soldered on each end of the D battery. The silver
> wires were placed in the Lister bags water supply with the
> batteries on the outside. In just a few days the medical problem
> disappeared and the road was completed.
>
> "At that time I was living in La Ceiba, Honduras, and our
> water supply was from unfiltered, unprocessed mountain runoff
> water, and I was curious about the silver process. At my request
> the director of the research laboratory had his personnel prepare
> twelve petri dishes for bacterial culture growth.
>
> "A water sample was divided into three parts. One part
> was used to make a 1, 10, 100, and 1000 dilution sample for the
> untreated water, a second set was made for water that was stirred
> with a silver wire for two minutes, and the third set was made
> using water that had been stirred with two silver wires that were
> soldered to the ends of a D battery.
>
> "What follows are my personal experiences while investigating
> the making of a silver product to be used for human
> consumption.
>
> "The twelve samples were incubated for forty-eight
> hours so that any bacteria present would grow. At the end of
> the incubation period the samples were viewed with results as
> listed on the table.
>
> "Untreated Water:
> 1/1 Solid cover of bacterial growth.
> 2/10 to 3/100 had successfully reduced growth.
> 4/1000 had five colonies of bacteria.
>
> "Stirred Water:
> 1/1 had a few colonies.
> 1/10 had less than sample 1.
> 1/100 and 1/1000 were free of bacterial growth.
>
> "Electrolyzed Water:
> All four of the culture dishes were bacterially free.
>
> I returned to the United States in 1957, and in 1997
> while browsing the Internet I encountered a silver list moderated
> by Professor Katherine Stevenson of the Jamestown College in
> North Dakota, which I joined.
>
> "I soon realized that every list member had their own
> special way of making what they called colloidal silver, and
> there was little interest to arrive at a standard process. There
> upon started my investigation of the electrolytic process for
> making a silver product."
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Michael Brown wrote:
>
>>
>> Just curious, who was it that originally started making this stuff? My
>> first experiments were the result of reading Bob Beck's literature. Don't
>> re
>> call anyone prior to that. Anyone know?   thanks, mlbrown
>>
>
>

Re: CS>Question......

[Dan Nave]

Ole Bob wrote:

"The History of Colloidal Silver

"Silver has been used throughout history by the aristocracy
for plates and drinking vessels, and its use has been a
source of protection from the ravages that affect the mass of
humanity. Our pioneers would add a silver dollar to the milk
buckets to prolong the useful life. If you so choose you can add
a tablespoon of your silver product to a gallon of milk and it
will not spoil for weeks.

"Prior to the discovery of penicillin there were over
ninety US letters patents of silver compounds for medicinal
purposes. It was during 1917 that Dr . Henry Crooke conducted
2,000 tests proving that silver solutions would kill
almost all pathogens. Since ionic silver solutions could not be
patented, the Food and Drug Administration was moved by the
pharmaceutical companies not to approve its use by the American
Medical Association.

"For those who want an in-depth look at the history of
the use of silver for human well being I suggest that you visit
the Google.com web site and enter "colloidal silver ." Another
worthwhile web site is at www.silverinstitute.org in Washington
D. C. You will enjoy the www.silverlon.com web site as
their product has been approved by the FDA and the AMA.

"If the web site is selling a product be careful what you
believe about their product, as everyone thinks theirs is the best.

"Circa 1953 there was an article in the Reader's Digest
on the role that silver played in the building of the Burma road
during world War II . Shortly after construction began everything
stopped due to dysentery and diarrhea from the water
supply. An English doctor gathe red up a number ofD batteries
and silver coins, which he took to India.

"The coins were converted into wires about a meter long
and one was soldered on each end of the D battery. The silver
wires were placed in the Lister bags water supply with the
batteries on the outside. In just a few days the medical problem
disappeared and the road was completed.

"At that time I was living in La Ceiba, Honduras, and our
water supply was from unfiltered, unprocessed mountain runoff
water, and I was curious about the silver process. At my request
the director of the research laboratory had his personnel prepare
twelve petri dishes for bacterial culture growth.

"A water sample was divided into three parts. One part
was used to make a 1, 10, 100, and 1000 dilution sample for the
untreated water, a second set was made for water that was stirred
with a silver wire for two minutes, and the third set was made
using water that had been stirred with two silver wires that were
soldered to the ends of a D battery.

"What follows are my personal experiences while investigating
the making of a silver product to be used for human
consumption.

"The twelve samples were incubated for forty-eight
hours so that any bacteria present would grow. At the end of
the incubation period the samples were viewed with results as
listed on the table.

"Untreated Water:
1/1 Solid cover of bacterial growth.
2/10 to 3/100 had successfully reduced growth.
4/1000 had five colonies of bacteria.

"Stirred Water:
1/1 had a few colonies.
1/10 had less than sample 1.
1/100 and 1/1000 were free of bacterial growth.

"Electrolyzed Water:
All four of the culture dishes were bacterially free.

I returned to the United States in 1957, and in 1997
while browsing the Internet I encountered a silver list moderated
by Professor Katherine Stevenson of the Jamestown College in
North Dakota, which I joined.

"I soon realized that every list member had their own
special way of making what they called colloidal silver, and
there was little interest to arrive at a standard process. There
upon started my investigation of the electrolytic process for
making a silver product."






On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Michael Brown wrote:

>
> Just curious, who was it that originally started making this stuff? My
> first experiments were the result of reading Bob Beck's literature. Don't
> re
> call anyone prior to that. Anyone know?   thanks, mlbrown
>

Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Jasmine Mykal]

Ok, got it. Same set up as mine would be.

Thanks PT!

Teri and the Happy Hooligans
On Jan 2, 2014 5:56 PM, "PT Ferrance"  wrote:

> My meter is on a garage wall... on the outside so the 3'x3' plate when on
> the inside of the garage and then another plate next to the meter on the
> outside.
> PT
>
>   --
>  *From:* Jasmine Mykal 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 8:38 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration
>
> "Like"
> PT - When you say a plate was placed behind the meter, do you mean on the
> inside of the house? Or between the meter and the house? The electric
> monopoly installed the device last year and these freaky body jump kind of
> things have increased ever since.
> Have no idea how to explain the body jump things. It does not sound like
> the OP's vibration thing. Mine are more like quick rumbles that come in
> waves that go down my body. I have had them as long as I can remember and
> have lived in various regions of the Country, as well as Central America.
> Great discussion. I thought it was just me Glad to know I'm not the
> only one who feels weird things in their body. ;-)
> Teri and the Happy Hooligans
> On Jan 2, 2014 8:57 AM, "PT Ferrance"  wrote:
>
> A 3'x3' piece of 1/4" thick steel plate was put behind the smart meter.
> Another piece of 1/4" thick steel was put alongside the smart meter between
> the meter and a bedroom.  The size of this piece was determined by the
> trajectory so that the room would be protected.  It extends past the meter
> by some distance so that I was sure the room would be comfortable... and it
> is.
> I hope this helps.
> PT
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* sol 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:00 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration
>
> PT, could you give details of how you used the steel plate? Or tell me if
> you have already posted details here and I'll search the archives.
> thanks,
> sol
>
>
> PT Ferrance wrote:
> > Yes they are.  I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4" steel
> plate.  I could feel the difference.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > *From:* Deborah Gerard 
> > **
> >
> > Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are
> being installed on peoples homes?
> >
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[PT Ferrance]

My meter is on a garage wall... on the outside so the 3'x3' plate when on the 
inside of the garage and then another plate next to the meter on the outside.
PT





 From: Jasmine Mykal 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration
 


"Like" 
PT - When you say a plate was placed behind the meter, do you mean on the 
inside of the house? Or between the meter and the house? The electric monopoly 
installed the device last year and these freaky body jump kind of things have 
increased ever since. 
Have no idea how to explain the body jump things. It does not sound like the 
OP's vibration thing. Mine are more like quick rumbles that come in waves that 
go down my body. I have had them as long as I can remember and have lived in 
various regions of the Country, as well as Central America. 
Great discussion. I thought it was just me Glad to know I'm not the only 
one who feels weird things in their body. ;-) 
Teri and the Happy Hooligans
On Jan 2, 2014 8:57 AM, "PT Ferrance"  wrote:

A 3'x3' piece of 1/4" thick steel plate was put behind the smart meter.  
Another piece of 1/4" thick steel was put alongside the smart meter between the 
meter and a bedroom.  The size of this piece was determined by the trajectory 
so that the room would be protected.  It extends past the meter by some 
distance so that I was sure the room would be comfortable... and it is.
>I hope this helps.
>PT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: sol 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:00 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration
> 
>
>PT, could you give details of how you used the steel plate? Or tell me if you 
>have already posted details here and I'll search the archives.
>thanks,
>sol
>
>
>PT Ferrance wrote:
>> Yes they are.  I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4" steel plate.  I 
>> could feel the difference.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* Deborah Gerard 
>> **
>> 
>> Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being 
>> installed on peoples homes?
>> 
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Jasmine Mykal]

"Like"

PT - When you say a plate was placed behind the meter, do you mean on the
inside of the house? Or between the meter and the house? The electric
monopoly installed the device last year and these freaky body jump kind of
things have increased ever since.

Have no idea how to explain the body jump things. It does not sound like
the OP's vibration thing. Mine are more like quick rumbles that come in
waves that go down my body. I have had them as long as I can remember and
have lived in various regions of the Country, as well as Central America.

Great discussion. I thought it was just me Glad to know I'm not the
only one who feels weird things in their body. ;-)

Teri and the Happy Hooligans
On Jan 2, 2014 8:57 AM, "PT Ferrance"  wrote:

> A 3'x3' piece of 1/4" thick steel plate was put behind the smart meter.
> Another piece of 1/4" thick steel was put alongside the smart meter between
> the meter and a bedroom.  The size of this piece was determined by the
> trajectory so that the room would be protected.  It extends past the meter
> by some distance so that I was sure the room would be comfortable... and it
> is.
> I hope this helps.
> PT
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* sol 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:00 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration
>
> PT, could you give details of how you used the steel plate? Or tell me if
> you have already posted details here and I'll search the archives.
> thanks,
> sol
>
>
> PT Ferrance wrote:
> > Yes they are.  I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4" steel
> plate.  I could feel the difference.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > *From:* Deborah Gerard 
> > **
> >
> > Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are
> being installed on peoples homes?
> >
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[123 456]

Ah...a radiation sheild. Good thought.
T

On 1/2/14, PT Ferrance  wrote:
> A 3'x3' piece of 1/4" thick steel plate was put behind the smart meter.
> Another piece of 1/4" thick steel was put alongside the smart meter between
> the meter and a bedroom.  The size of this piece was determined by the
> trajectory so that the room would be protected.  It extends past the meter
> by some distance so that I was sure the room would be comfortable... and it
> is.
> I hope this helps.
> PT
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: sol 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration
>
>
> PT, could you give details of how you used the steel plate? Or tell me if
> you have already posted details here and I'll search the archives.
> thanks,
> sol
>
>
> PT Ferrance wrote:
>> Yes they are.  I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4" steel plate.
>> I could feel the difference.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> *From:* Deborah Gerard 
>> **
>>
>> Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being
>> installed on peoples homes?
>>
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[PT Ferrance]

A 3'x3' piece of 1/4" thick steel plate was put behind the smart meter.  
Another piece of 1/4" thick steel was put alongside the smart meter between the 
meter and a bedroom.  The size of this piece was determined by the trajectory 
so that the room would be protected.  It extends past the meter by some 
distance so that I was sure the room would be comfortable... and it is.
I hope this helps.
PT





 From: sol 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration
 

PT, could you give details of how you used the steel plate? Or tell me if you 
have already posted details here and I'll search the archives.
thanks,
sol


PT Ferrance wrote:
> Yes they are.  I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4" steel plate.  I 
> could feel the difference.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* Deborah Gerard 
> **
> 
> Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being 
> installed on peoples homes?
> 


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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[sol]

PT, could you give details of how you used the steel plate? Or tell me 
if you have already posted details here and I'll search the archives.

thanks,
sol


PT Ferrance wrote:
Yes they are.  I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4" steel 
plate.  I could feel the difference.





*From:* Deborah Gerard 
**

Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are 
being installed on peoples homes?





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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Deborah Gerard]

Your the one who noticed and commented on the fear not any of us and it wasn't 
the subject we were talking about...FOCUS if you think you can manage that 
without being so arrogant.



On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 7:43 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:
  
Read some of the content from the link you provided.  Pure fear.  Most of these 
kinds of symptoms aren't a problem if the person doesn't freak out about it.

So there...




On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:

That's your opinion...nobody said anything about "fear". So don't read more 
into it than being stated!! 
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:48 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:
>  
>Here's a case of "we have nothing to fear but fear itself."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:
>
>Boy your sure not alone there are other people with the same problem,
>>
>>
>>http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Neurology/Feels-like-Im-vibrating/show/297668 
>>
>>
>>
>>On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:00 PM, Deborah Gerard  
>>wrote:
>>  
>>I would certainly do some research on this...I never even heard of it before.
>>Debbie 
>>
>>
>>
>>On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:47 AM, Dan Nave  
>>wrote:
>>  
>>I'd say, relax and enjoy it.  Consider yourself lucky.
>>
>>Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words <2wordsproduct...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling 
>>>the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing 
>>>of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and 
>>>goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low 
>>>side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. 
>>>And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical 
>>>sensation.  Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>Joy
>>>
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Dan Nave]

Read some of the content from the link you provided.  Pure fear.  Most of
these kinds of symptoms aren't a problem if the person doesn't freak out
about it.

So there...


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

> That's your opinion...nobody said anything about "fear". So don't read
> more into it than being stated!!
>
>
>   On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:48 PM, Dan Nave 
> wrote:
>  Here's a case of "we have nothing to fear but fear itself."
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
>
> Boy your sure not alone there are other people with the same problem,
>
> http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Neurology/Feels-like-Im-vibrating/show/297668
>
>
>   On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:00 PM, Deborah Gerard <
> devorah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>   I would certainly do some research on this...I never even heard of it
> before.
> Debbie
>
>
>   On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:47 AM, Dan Nave 
> wrote:
>   I'd say, relax and enjoy it.  Consider yourself lucky.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words <2wordsproduct...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of
> feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing
> the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then
> flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is
> on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a
> hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain
> physical sensation.  Any substantial evidence with this would be
> appreciated.
>
> Joy
>
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[PT Ferrance]

Yes they are.  I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4" steel plate.  I 
could feel the difference.

Happy New Year everyone!
Blessings, 
PT





 From: Deborah Gerard 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration
 


Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being 
installed on peoples homes?



On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 1:34 PM, Joe Huard  wrote:
 
One thing that I would do if this was happening to me, would be to make 
up a cheap Faraday cage, and enter it when the vibration starts. If it 
stops, I would know that
 it is caused by EMF from microwave towers, etc.
There are many people who are getting so sensitive to cell phone tower 
transmissions that they need to make their whole house into a Faraday cage.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV9dhGv_tTsResonance:Beings of Frequency
Joe
Silver ;-)

On 31/12/2013 12:32 AM, 2Words wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of 
> feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been 
> experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it 
> goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling 
> is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there 
> and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics 
> or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation.  Any substantial 
> evidence with this would be appreciated.
>
> Joy
>
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Deborah Gerard]

Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being 
installed on peoples homes?



On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 1:34 PM, Joe Huard  wrote:
  
One thing that I would do if this was happening to me, would be to make 
up a cheap Faraday cage, and enter it when the vibration starts. If it 
stops, I would know that it is caused by EMF from microwave towers, etc.
There are many people who are getting so sensitive to cell phone tower 
transmissions that they need to make their whole house into a Faraday cage.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV9dhGv_tTsResonance:Beings of Frequency
Joe
Silver ;-)

On 31/12/2013 12:32 AM, 2Words wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of 
> feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been 
> experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it 
> goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling 
> is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there 
> and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics 
> or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation.  Any substantial 
> evidence with this would be appreciated.
>
> Joy
>
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Joe Huard]

One thing that I would do if this was happening to me, would be to make 
up a cheap Faraday cage, and enter it when the vibration starts. If it 
stops, I would know that it is caused by EMF from microwave towers, etc.
There are many people who are getting so sensitive to cell phone tower 
transmissions that they need to make their whole house into a Faraday cage.

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV9dhGv_tTs Resonance:Beings of Frequency
Joe
Silver ;-)
On 31/12/2013 12:32 AM, 2Words wrote:

Hi,

Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of 
feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been 
experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it 
goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling 
is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there 
and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics 
or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation.  Any substantial 
evidence with this would be appreciated.


Joy


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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Deborah Gerard]

That's your opinion...nobody said anything about "fear". So don't read more 
into it than being stated!!



On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:48 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:
  
Here's a case of "we have nothing to fear but fear itself."







On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:

Boy your sure not alone there are other people with the same problem,
>
>
>http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Neurology/Feels-like-Im-vibrating/show/297668 
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:00 PM, Deborah Gerard  
>wrote:
>  
>I would certainly do some research on this...I never even heard of it before.
>Debbie 
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:47 AM, Dan Nave  wrote:
>  
>I'd say, relax and enjoy it.  Consider yourself lucky.
>
>Dan
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words <2wordsproduct...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>>
>>Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling 
>>the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing 
>>of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes 
>>the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - 
>>but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there 
>>are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation.  Any 
>>substantial evidence with this would be appreciated.
>>
>>Joy
>>
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Dan Nave]

Here's a case of "we have nothing to fear but fear itself."





On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

> Boy your sure not alone there are other people with the same problem,
>
> http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Neurology/Feels-like-Im-vibrating/show/297668
>
>
>   On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:00 PM, Deborah Gerard <
> devorah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  I would certainly do some research on this...I never even heard of it
> before.
> Debbie
>
>
>   On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:47 AM, Dan Nave 
> wrote:
>  I'd say, relax and enjoy it.  Consider yourself lucky.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words <2wordsproduct...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of
> feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing
> the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then
> flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is
> on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a
> hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain
> physical sensation.  Any substantial evidence with this would be
> appreciated.
>
> Joy
>
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Deborah Gerard]

Boy your sure not alone there are other people with the same problem,

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Neurology/Feels-like-Im-vibrating/show/297668



On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:00 PM, Deborah Gerard  
wrote:
  
I would certainly do some research on this...I never even heard of it before.
Debbie



On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:47 AM, Dan Nave  wrote:
  
I'd say, relax and enjoy it.  Consider yourself lucky.

Dan




On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words <2wordsproduct...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
>
>Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling 
>the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing 
>of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes 
>the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - 
>but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there 
>are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation.  Any 
>substantial evidence with this would be appreciated.
>
>Joy
>
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Deborah Gerard]

I would certainly do some research on this...I never even heard of it before.
Debbie



On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:47 AM, Dan Nave  wrote:
  
I'd say, relax and enjoy it.  Consider yourself lucky.

Dan




On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words <2wordsproduct...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
>
>Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling 
>the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing 
>of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes 
>the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - 
>but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there 
>are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation.  Any 
>substantial evidence with this would be appreciated.
>
>Joy
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Dan Nave]

I'd say, relax and enjoy it.  Consider yourself lucky.

Dan


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> Hi,
>
> Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of
> feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing
> the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then
> flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is
> on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a
> hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain
> physical sensation.  Any substantial evidence with this would be
> appreciated.
>
> Joy
>
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[123 456]

Another observation...
we are, indeed, an electrical battery and with the complex  circuitry
we all have with this terrestrial body it  sort of makes sense that
when we start to percieve the finer energys we are immersed in  that
one  would begin to be  aware of and even start to attune  to these
energys  both  within  and without.
Wouldn't it?
Some  people  might even get  a bit rattled even feeling  or  (gasp)
hearing their blood circulate through the  body.
LOL
T

On 12/31/13, Tony Moody  wrote:
> On 31 Dec 2013 at 8:18, 123 456 wrote about :
> Subject : Re: CS>Question About Body Vibratio
>
>> Hi Joy..
>> The only thing I can relate  to  what you  described is a meditation
>> phenomenon that occures at a certain point in the awakening  process. It
>> is what used to be seen with  the 'Holy Rollers' as they  were called in
>> the last century. Now, it may not be as violent as all that but...it was
>> recommended by a teacher tojust relax and go  with the exxperience and
>> to
>> drink pure
>>  distilled cold  water to help the body and mind to stay grounded.
>> It was the chakras opening..so I was told.
>> Hope this  is of help.
>> Tara
>>
>
> Hi Joy and Tara,
> Me changing tack completely.
> Yes, If it is what you are talking about : there is a fairly normal
> phenomenon of feeling as if
> ones torso is rotating slowly while sitting quietly. I have only ever come
> across this mentioned
> in Polarity Therapy as the East West current. As far as I can remember we
> did not work with
> this physical motion much but we were aware of it when it occured. I think
> you are correct;
> observe it and it will settle down soon. It is good to know that all is
> working well.
> OK,
> Tony
>
>


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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Tony Moody]

On 31 Dec 2013 at 8:18, 123 456 wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>Question About Body Vibratio

> Hi Joy..
> The only thing I can relate  to  what you  described is a meditation
> phenomenon that occures at a certain point in the awakening  process. It
> is what used to be seen with  the 'Holy Rollers' as they  were called in
> the last century. Now, it may not be as violent as all that but...it was
> recommended by a teacher tojust relax and go  with the exxperience and  to
> drink pure
>  distilled cold  water to help the body and mind to stay grounded.
> It was the chakras opening..so I was told.
> Hope this  is of help.
> Tara
> 

Hi Joy and Tara,
Me changing tack completely.  
Yes, If it is what you are talking about : there is a fairly normal phenomenon 
of feeling as if 
ones torso is rotating slowly while sitting quietly. I have only ever come 
across this mentioned 
in Polarity Therapy as the East West current. As far as I can remember we did 
not work with 
this physical motion much but we were aware of it when it occured. I think you 
are correct; 
observe it and it will settle down soon. It is good to know that all is working 
well. 
OK, 
Tony

Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[123 456]

Thanks RaVen...
those could all bbe called meditation experiencesand yes...the
breathing patterns or  breathwork will trigger this.
It does have aphysiological effect and thats where the Bvits come in.
I should have asked if you eat meat at all?
Beef or buffalo (bison) are the best for maintaining the fire  energy.
Just a tiny amount or  even the bone  soup as was talked  about on
another thread.
T

On 12/31/13, RaVen  wrote:
> Hi Joy,
> I've personally experienced this bodily vibrations in the past.
> Here are a few of my theories -
> 1) lack of B complex vitamins - I've researched for people who are severely
> lacking B complex vitamin often get this vibrating sensation in their bodies
> or feel as if they're about to float.
>
> 2) depending on the time of day - if you're in bed when this happens, it
> could be an introduction to out of body experience
> (OBE) ---
> 3)  Breathwork
> I once went to a therapist who was an expert in breath work - he taught me
> to breathe a certain way and it was a bewildering experience because I could
> feel my entire body "vibrating" - it freaked me out, actually and I kept
> interrupting the process as I was nervous. Even my teeth were vibrating!
> Very difficult to explain but that is the best word I can describe.
> Finally he coached me to release my defensiveness and next thing I knew I
> was "out" for an hour-- this was part of a healing process for the
> emotional/psychic/physical therapy.
>
> Those are the only times I've ever personally experienced the vibration
> sensations.
>
> I know this is not CS related, but I thought I'd put in my 2 cents.
>
> RaVen
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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[RaVen]

Hi Joy,
I've personally experienced this bodily vibrations in the past. 
Here are a few of my theories -
1) lack of B complex vitamins - I've researched for people who are severely 
lacking B complex vitamin often get this vibrating sensation in their bodies or 
feel as if they're about to float. 

2) depending on the time of day - if you're in bed when this happens, it could 
be an introduction to out of body experience
(OBE) --- 
3)  Breathwork
I once went to a therapist who was an expert in breath work - he taught me to 
breathe a certain way and it was a bewildering experience because I could feel 
my entire body "vibrating" - it freaked me out, actually and I kept 
interrupting the process as I was nervous. Even my teeth were vibrating! Very 
difficult to explain but that is the best word I can describe. 
Finally he coached me to release my defensiveness and next thing I knew I was 
"out" for an hour-- this was part of a healing process for the 
emotional/psychic/physical therapy. 

Those are the only times I've ever personally experienced the vibration 
sensations. 

I know this is not CS related, but I thought I'd put in my 2 cents. 

RaVen

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Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[123 456]

Hi Joy..
The only thing I can relate  to  what you  described is a meditation
phenomenon that occures at a certain point in the awakening  process.
It is what used to be seen with  the 'Holy Rollers' as they  were
called in the last century.
Now, it may not be as violent as all that but...it was recommended by
a teacher tojust relax and go  with the exxperience and  to drink pure
 distilled cold  water to help the body and mind to stay grounded.
It was the chakras opening..so I was told.
Hope this  is of help.
Tara

On 12/31/13, Tony Moody  wrote:
> On 31 Dec 2013 at 7:32, 2Words wrote about :
> Subject : CS>Question About Body Vibration
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of
>> feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing
>> the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way -
>> then
>> flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate
>> is
>> on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a
>> hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain
>> physical sensation.  Any substantial evidence with this would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Joy
>>
>
> Hi Joy,
>
> To keep a bit of silver in the conversation. In my experience use of CS or
> EIS has lowered
> the tinnitus to an acceptable, even enjoyable experience. I think what has
> happened in my
> case is that congestion, inflammation and some blockage has been reduced. My
> hearing has
> improved a bit but the tinnitus is still there.
>
> Yes, I have been hearing / sensing this for a few years. Lately, the noise
> has been
> changeable by the hour; it changes tone, volume and speed.  Basically I can
> describe it in
> terms of the sound made by a washing machine on wash cycle or on spin cycle.
> "Usually" the
> sound is fairly monotonous and steady and in the faint background, if at
> all. However in the
> past few months "the noise" has at times become louder, more insistent and
> with an urgent
> feel to it. I don't have a log or diary of this but my thought is that soon
> after sensing this sort
> of urgent quality 'sound' there is a world disaster somewhere as a result of
> an earthquake or
> violent weather event. The Indian ocean tsunami, new zealand earthquakes,
> and more
> recently,  heavy weather and floods 5 Dec UK and Europe.  Yadda yadda.
>
> I drive an old stick shift van. Fairly recently I drove an automatic. While
> stuck in traffic and
> dithering I shifted from Neutral to Drive a few times and got just about the
> exact tones. A
> Whurrr - Whoorrr sound, "The noise' has about a count of 7 per whurr or
> whoor. and overlaid
> on that is an occasional, intermittent, irregular blip or thud. The carrier
> wave; the 'rrr' part of
> the sound is akin to the putter-putter of a small gasoline engine idling;
> like a lawnmower in
> the distance and that is about 8Hz, which is very interesting in itself,
> being Earth Frequency
> as found by Schumann.
>
> OK, I have tinnitus, with which I am very familiar. and which I have had for
> many, many years
> and basically as a result of happily listening to loud machinery. 'the
> noise' is not tinnitus which
> is always there and which I can listen to; or try to ignore. 'the noise' is
> obliterated by ambient
> noise such as wind, rain, vacuum cleaner etc.  'the noise' seems to
> amplified by some
> wooden structures such as bed base and empty cabinet.
>
> At one time the 'the noise' drove me nuts trying to isolate or analyse it. I
> thought it could be
> tinnitus or residual sound caused by close proximity to computer or workshop
> equipment ( it
> is sort of like the pc fan setup but that is very steady ). I did all sorts
> of inconclusive
> experiments except that I'm fairly sure it is not related to mains or power
> frequency. At one
> time I was convinced "it" was coming from the cell phone towers but this is
> very difficult to
> prove one way or another because the noise "comes from everywhere". This is
> still the
> possiblity if the noise is coming from switched mode power supply equipment
> either leaking
> physical noise or (more likely) leaking noise back into the powersupply
> system
>
> There are a few of us in our village that have mentioned this in passing. It
> is not a popular
> topic because it implies a certain amount of daftness. !!!
>
> I try to meditate and that is exactly the sort of situation that will bring
> awareness of this sort of
> phenomenon. This past week, on a whim, I found that sometimes I can
> influence 'the noise'
> by sending "it" thoughts like "Peace and Joy" , the results of which has
> been that 'the noise'
> became inaudible for a few minutes to return and be banished again until I
> lost concentration.
> :-)  another occasion the noise just faded and did not return. third attempt
> yesterday was not
> successful at banishing the noise.I'm either daft as a brush or on
> something or maybe I
> am onto somet

Re: CS>Question About Body Vibration

[Tony Moody]

On 31 Dec 2013 at 7:32, 2Words wrote about :
Subject : CS>Question About Body Vibration

> Hi,
> 
> Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of 
> feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing
> the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then
> flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is
> on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a
> hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain
> physical sensation.  Any substantial evidence with this would be
> appreciated.
> 
> Joy
> 

Hi Joy,

To keep a bit of silver in the conversation. In my experience use of CS or EIS 
has lowered 
the tinnitus to an acceptable, even enjoyable experience. I think what has 
happened in my 
case is that congestion, inflammation and some blockage has been reduced. My 
hearing has 
improved a bit but the tinnitus is still there. 

Yes, I have been hearing / sensing this for a few years. Lately, the noise has 
been 
changeable by the hour; it changes tone, volume and speed.  Basically I can 
describe it in 
terms of the sound made by a washing machine on wash cycle or on spin cycle. 
"Usually" the 
sound is fairly monotonous and steady and in the faint background, if at all. 
However in the 
past few months "the noise" has at times become louder, more insistent and with 
an urgent 
feel to it. I don't have a log or diary of this but my thought is that soon 
after sensing this sort 
of urgent quality 'sound' there is a world disaster somewhere as a result of an 
earthquake or 
violent weather event. The Indian ocean tsunami, new zealand earthquakes, and 
more 
recently,  heavy weather and floods 5 Dec UK and Europe.  Yadda yadda.

I drive an old stick shift van. Fairly recently I drove an automatic. While 
stuck in traffic and 
dithering I shifted from Neutral to Drive a few times and got just about the 
exact tones. A 
Whurrr - Whoorrr sound, "The noise' has about a count of 7 per whurr or whoor. 
and overlaid 
on that is an occasional, intermittent, irregular blip or thud. The carrier 
wave; the 'rrr' part of 
the sound is akin to the putter-putter of a small gasoline engine idling; like 
a lawnmower in 
the distance and that is about 8Hz, which is very interesting in itself, being 
Earth Frequency 
as found by Schumann. 

OK, I have tinnitus, with which I am very familiar. and which I have had for 
many, many years 
and basically as a result of happily listening to loud machinery. 'the noise' 
is not tinnitus which 
is always there and which I can listen to; or try to ignore. 'the noise' is 
obliterated by ambient 
noise such as wind, rain, vacuum cleaner etc.  'the noise' seems to amplified 
by some 
wooden structures such as bed base and empty cabinet. 

At one time the 'the noise' drove me nuts trying to isolate or analyse it. I 
thought it could be 
tinnitus or residual sound caused by close proximity to computer or workshop 
equipment ( it 
is sort of like the pc fan setup but that is very steady ). I did all sorts of 
inconclusive 
experiments except that I'm fairly sure it is not related to mains or power 
frequency. At one 
time I was convinced "it" was coming from the cell phone towers but this is 
very difficult to 
prove one way or another because the noise "comes from everywhere". This is 
still the 
possiblity if the noise is coming from switched mode power supply equipment 
either leaking 
physical noise or (more likely) leaking noise back into the powersupply system  

There are a few of us in our village that have mentioned this in passing. It is 
not a popular 
topic because it implies a certain amount of daftness. !!!

I try to meditate and that is exactly the sort of situation that will bring 
awareness of this sort of 
phenomenon. This past week, on a whim, I found that sometimes I can influence 
'the noise' 
by sending "it" thoughts like "Peace and Joy" , the results of which has been 
that 'the noise'  
became inaudible for a few minutes to return and be banished again until I lost 
concentration. 
:-)  another occasion the noise just faded and did not return. third attempt 
yesterday was not 
successful at banishing the noise.  I'm either daft as a brush or on 
something or maybe I 
am onto something very important.  

OK,

Tony 

Re: CS>question

[suzy]

thank you Lena!
I want to try these out, as thick blood seems to come with my territory. 
I have an f-165 and can program them in.

warmly,
Suzy
On 3/4/2013 8:53 PM, Lena Guyot wrote:
I checked CAFL and it's not there, so I can't remember where/when I 
got the series, but I managed to hand copy from my FScan 2. They work 
for me. I'm not a doc, just a Lymie lab-rat, so can't actually 
recommend anything for anyone else, or anyone else's machine.


62000
63000
87000
89000
91000
94000
96000
98000
99000
105000
163000
316000
319000
379000

Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:19 PM, suzy wrote:


Hi Lena,
Do you have a set of sticky-blood frequencies you'd recommend as 
being the most helpful to run?

It sounds like a great idea for all of us!
Suzy
On 3/4/2013 12:39 PM, Lena Guyot wrote:
First hand. Whenever a scab or cut bleeds thickly, stickily, and 
coagulates too quickly, I know it's time to run the frx and within a 
day my blood is a normal texture and flow again. (having psoriasis 
and picking at the plaques, I have a pretty regular opportunity to 
observe this.) I also notice an increase in energy and better 
circulation.
Of course, I also do a lot of detox to carry off the debris. Please 
keep in mind: If Lyme teaches us nothing else, it teaches us that 
every body is different. I'm no doc, just a Lymie lab-rat who's 
getting better all the time.


Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, bob Larson wrote:


there are?  for sure?
has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where 
you could observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment?

or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ?


*From:* Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
*Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
*Subject:* Re: CS>question

There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate
frequencies that clear 'sticky-blood'.
Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much
sludge that builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance
won't cover these. At all! Did the insurance at least cover the
stent?

Be well,
Léna



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Re: CS>question

[Lena Guyot]

I checked CAFL and it's not there, so I can't remember where/when I got the 
series, but I managed to hand copy from my FScan 2. They work for me. I'm not a 
doc, just a Lymie lab-rat, so can't actually recommend anything for anyone 
else, or anyone else's machine.

62000
63000
87000
89000
91000
94000
96000
98000
99000
105000
163000
316000
319000
379000 

Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:19 PM, suzy wrote:

> Hi Lena,
> Do you have a set of sticky-blood frequencies you'd recommend as being the 
> most helpful to run?
> It sounds like a great idea for all of us!
> Suzy
> On 3/4/2013 12:39 PM, Lena Guyot wrote:
>> First hand. Whenever a scab or cut bleeds thickly, stickily, and coagulates 
>> too quickly, I know it's time to run the frx and within a day my blood is a 
>> normal texture and flow again. (having psoriasis and picking at the plaques, 
>> I have a pretty regular opportunity to observe this.) I also notice an 
>> increase in energy and better circulation. 
>> Of course, I also do a lot of detox to carry off the debris. Please keep in 
>> mind: If Lyme teaches us nothing else, it teaches us that every body is 
>> different. I'm no doc, just a Lymie lab-rat who's getting better all the 
>> time.
>> 
>> Be well,
>> Léna
>> On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, bob Larson wrote:
>> 
>>> there are?  for sure?
>>> has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where you 
>>> could observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment?
>>> or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ?
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> Subject: Re: CS>question
>>> 
>>> There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that 
>>> clear 'sticky-blood'.
>>> Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that 
>>> builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all! 
>>> Did the insurance at least cover the stent?
>>> 
>>> Be well,
>>> Léna
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Re: CS>question

[suzy]

Hi Lena,
Do you have a set of sticky-blood frequencies you'd recommend as being 
the most helpful to run?

It sounds like a great idea for all of us!
Suzy
On 3/4/2013 12:39 PM, Lena Guyot wrote:
First hand. Whenever a scab or cut bleeds thickly, stickily, and 
coagulates too quickly, I know it's time to run the frx and within a 
day my blood is a normal texture and flow again. (having psoriasis and 
picking at the plaques, I have a pretty regular opportunity to observe 
this.) I also notice an increase in energy and better circulation.
Of course, I also do a lot of detox to carry off the debris. Please 
keep in mind: If Lyme teaches us nothing else, it teaches us that 
every body is different. I'm no doc, just a Lymie lab-rat who's 
getting better all the time.


Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, bob Larson wrote:


there are?  for sure?
has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where 
you could observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment?

or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ?


*From:* Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
*Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
*Subject:* Re: CS>question

There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate
frequencies that clear 'sticky-blood'.
Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much
sludge that builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance
won't cover these. At all! Did the insurance at least cover the
stent?

Be well,
Léna



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Re: CS>question

[cking001]

I switched from coumadin to nattokinase after doing my due diligence
research.
My cardiologist want me to consider aspirin, but that has it's own
list of bad effects including blindness.

Chuck
"The greatest threat to the Republic is that people rarely question 
 the authenticity of political quotes at the bottoms of emails" - 
 Thomas Jefferson 

On 3/4/2013 1:01:42 PM, Sarah Miller (sarahmiller...@gmail.com) wrote:
>Do you know anything to replace blood thinners?  Have a friend who just had
>a stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it.


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Re: CS>question

[Dan Nave]

Traditionally, aspirin is used as a blood thinner.  Many people take 1
baby aspirin a day for that purpose.  One could take more to thin the
blood more.

Natto enzyme, available for a fairly cheap price at places like
Swanson's Vitamins, will clear out fibrin from the blood.  One dose
will last about 10-12 hours so one may want to take 2 a day, one in
the am and one in the pm.  You could discuss this all with the doctor
who should be willing to advise if one cannot afford the blood
thinners.

Dan


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Sarah Miller  wrote:
> Do you know anything to replace blood thinners?  Have a friend who just had
> a stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sarah


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Re: CS>question

[Lena Guyot]

First hand. Whenever a scab or cut bleeds thickly, stickily, and coagulates too 
quickly, I know it's time to run the frx and within a day my blood is a normal 
texture and flow again. (having psoriasis and picking at the plaques, I have a 
pretty regular opportunity to observe this.) I also notice an increase in 
energy and better circulation. 
Of course, I also do a lot of detox to carry off the debris. Please keep in 
mind: If Lyme teaches us nothing else, it teaches us that every body is 
different. I'm no doc, just a Lymie lab-rat who's getting better all the time.

Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, bob Larson wrote:

> there are?  for sure?
> has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where you could 
> observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment?
> or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ?
>  
> 
> From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>question
> 
> There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that 
> clear 'sticky-blood'.
> Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that 
> builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all! 
> Did the insurance at leastcover the stent?
> 
> Be well,
> Léna

RE: CS>question

[bob Larson]

there are?  for sure? 
has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where you could
observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment?
or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ?
 


  _  

From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>question


There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that
clear 'sticky-blood'. 
Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that
builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all!
Did the insurance at least cover the stent?


Be well,
Léna

Re: CS>question

[Lena Guyot]

There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that clear 
'sticky-blood'.
Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that 
builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all! Did 
the insurance at least cover the stent?

Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Sarah Miller wrote:

> Do you know anything to replace blood thinners?  Have a friend who just had a 
> stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sarah

Re: CS>question

[phoenix23002 tds.net]

How wierd that her insurance won't pay.  Usually they are eager to put us
on things that aren't particularly good for us.

Study.. research and come to your own conclusions but nattozyme
(nattozime), serrapeptase and 'earthing' products can help
thick/sludgy/ketchupy blood.  Earthing products increase the 'zeta'
potential of red blood cells.. helping them to repel one another which
means the cells have more 'elbow' room.  Lola H.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:14 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

>  I would think a letter from the doctor that put the stent in about what
> will happen to it and her if a blood clot develops would be a place to
> start.
> PT
>
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> *From:* Sarah Miller 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Mon, March 4, 2013 1:02:22 PM
> *Subject:* CS>question
>
> Do you know anything to replace blood thinners?  Have a friend who just
> had a stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sarah
>

Re: CS>question

[PT Ferrance]

I would think a letter from the doctor that put the stent in about what will 
happen to it and her if a blood clot develops would be a place to start.
PT





From: Sarah Miller 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 1:02:22 PM
Subject: CS>question

Do you know anything to replace blood thinners?  Have a friend who just had a 
stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it. 


Thanks,

Sarah