RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
In the e-mail below, I mentioned how I didn't see many of these deals on eBay anymore. Well I just found one. A guy wanted $300 bucks for a palette-load of Atari hardware and software. He was local so I went to check it out. I could have bought the whole thing, resold separately and made good money on the deal, but frankly it was too much stuff and it needed cleaning...it would take a long time to deal with. (he had about 8 Atari CPUs alone...lots of peripherals, some Commodore stuff too). Instead I picked up an Atari 400 in the box and about 45 original games (including in-box Sierra Ultima 1: The Original, Alternate Reality City Dungeon, and a few other nice finds) for $75. Once again, none of the games were mentioned in the lot description, and I got lucky that he was local. But if you find 1 or 2 of these a year and it's worth the extra search effort. Hugh -Original Message- From: Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Wow, there are so many...maybe too many. However, the ones that stick out in my mind aren't necessarily the best or rarest games I have, it's the best deals I found. So I'll just name the ones I got for free (the deal can't get any better than that): Akalabeth Starcross (Saucer Package) Suspended (Mask Box) Infocom folios -- Deadline, Suspended, Seastalker, Infidel, Planetfall, Enchanter, etc. Ultima Ultima II small box Ultima II big box Sierra folios -- Ulysses, Mystery House, Wizard and Princess, Time Zone, etc. I'll stop there...literally hundreds more. How did I get all these for free? On eBay, believe it or not, and they weren't free...initially . They came in large lots of stuff (usually with a ton of hardware). The games weren't even mentioned in the lots (so a search wouldn't find them). However, they were in the pictures, and I was lucky to spot them. I won the lots and kept the games. I sold the stuff I didn't want back on eBay (splitting up the items and with better advertising) and made more than I paid for the original lots. So the games actually made me money. I don't know if it's because I have less time or if these deals aren't around any more, but I haven't scored one in quite a while. I really miss the old days of ebay (5 years ago! :-) I'm also proud of my complete collection of EA flat box games...not that they're rare or expensive. I just haven't seen another complete set...anybody on this list collect EA flats? Hugh -Original Message- From: John Romero [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Figured I'd switch topics here since it had to happen sooner or later! What's your favorite old software find that you have? I have a *bunch* of old ziploc baggie games from the early days, but I'd have to say that my favorite ones are: (1) Pristine, perfect complete collection of Softalk magazine (1980-1984) (2) Akalabeth (the one with the orange castle) (3) Master Disks for a few of Nasir Gebelli's games: Horizon V, Eggs-It, Neptune. (4) Signed copy of Phantom's Five (Nasir) (5) Perfect box copy of Ultima II (6) Signed copy of Cyber Strike (Nasir) (7) Signed copy of Both Barrels (Nasir) - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
It doesn't seem to be any rarer than any other Synergistic titles. They're all pretty uncommon from my experience. Is the cover art for Warlock's the same as the manual? Mine's sans box. - Original Message - From: Hugh Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Sorry, slow in responding to this one. Yes, I do. Is it particularly rare? I don't have much from Synergisitic: The Warlock's Revenge Dungeon/Wilderness Campaign Escape from Arcturus Odyssey: The Compleat Adventure Hugh -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Yes! I have mint copies of these two as well. Man, I am pretty loaded with Synergistic Software. :) Got Warlock's Revenge? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Unfortunately, mine is in storage with the rest of my stuff :-( However, I do know that it is in a ziploc bag...not a box. Like most of my Synergistic stuff. Hugh -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 6:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? It doesn't seem to be any rarer than any other Synergistic titles. They're all pretty uncommon from my experience. Is the cover art for Warlock's the same as the manual? Mine's sans box. - Original Message - From: Hugh Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Sorry, slow in responding to this one. Yes, I do. Is it particularly rare? I don't have much from Synergisitic: The Warlock's Revenge Dungeon/Wilderness Campaign Escape from Arcturus Odyssey: The Compleat Adventure Hugh -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Yes! I have mint copies of these two as well. Man, I am pretty loaded with Synergistic Software. :) Got Warlock's Revenge? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Sorry, slow in responding to this one. Yes, I do. Is it particularly rare? I don't have much from Synergisitic: The Warlock's Revenge Dungeon/Wilderness Campaign Escape from Arcturus Odyssey: The Compleat Adventure Hugh -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Yes! I have mint copies of these two as well. Man, I am pretty loaded with Synergistic Software. :) Got Warlock's Revenge? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Awesome info. That's the sort of thing I wanted to know can't find anywhere. Thanks. I read this article a while ago... http://sch57.msk.ru:8100/~khim/hackers/part3/chapter19.html which describes the Ken Williams/Mark Duchaineau thing from at least 1 person's perspective. Unbelievable. (This is the TOC: http://sch57.msk.ru:8100/~khim/hackers/toc.html) Reading too much stuff like this makes you realize how little you've accomplished in life. Seems like everyone who's someone had already established themselves by age 20 (don't even start about Ray Tobey). A few messages back you'd said you'd written 50 or so games by age 20? One of Tom Leher's (has a compilation on Amazon) lines was something like By the time Bethooven was my age, he had already been dead for 2 years Sigh. Are there any old foggies out there (game developers who didn't start coding when they were 10)? -Original Message- From: John Romero [mailto:john;monkeystone.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Back then, most games filled up all available memory and rarely ever did they have to load from disk, so most games back then were NOT keeping protection in mind. It was a very easy thing to tack on, though, because what would usually happen is the guy in charge of protection would get the game file, then break that up into various pieces himself and write a bootstrap loader that loaded a chunk of game in at a time, then loaded a chunk of loader for the next piece, then executed the loader chunk to load the next piece, etc. Usually they would only have a 256-byte loader (trk 0, sector 0) that would load in the first loader, which was usually the place where they pulled various tricks to hide the loader code. Sometimes they would load in a piece of code that loaded in at the end of the stack ($100+), over the input buffer ($200+) then when it was done do an RTS which would go to the address that was stored at $1FE-1FF, which ended up being the start of the next loader chunk... It was pretty crazy. I believe Tom McWilliams did most of Sirius' copy protection and he used the little ship graphic from Gorgon while loading the rest of the game.it definitely made it look like Nasir did the protection himself, but I don't think he did. I could definitely verify this for a fact if you need to know. BTW, did you know that Ultima II's release was held up because Mark Duchaineau didn't want to protect it with his normal code (he wanted to use his new SpiraTrack scheme) and Sierra was *locked* in to using his protection code.??? - John -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:junk6;bellatlantic.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? BTW I have all 89 issues of Computist + the four errata issues. The Super IOB images are on Asimov. Mail me if you're interested in any sort of info, etc. I'm not great, but I've normalized a good stack that weren't in any of those issues. John, if you don't mind yet another question your way... classic game copy protection is one of those perverse fascinations of mine. Some of them (Nassir's 4+4 encoded, spiral quarter-tracked, self-modifying loader-that-sits-on-video-memory with a nibble-count mess) were just unreal. Mercifully, most schemes were home-grown almost-DOS 3.3 variants. When writing games that integrated with copy protection, what considerations did you have to make? Was development done w/the protection in mind, or was it normal file-based code until it was ready for commercial release? -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 09:36 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] I've been thinking about this... and wouldn't it be safer to play off backup copies? I mean, the disk could get munched in the drive, the label could get scratched going in and out... or is that attitude too anal for the rest of this group? B-) If you can make backup copies. Grrr. Magazines like The Computist can be invaluable if you just want to make your legal backups. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
end of the Golden Age of Gaming (by GOTCHA's definition), you have to love that gameCarmack sure knows how to make them ;-)) ^^^ DO I NEED TO KILL YOU FOR THAT REMARK??!!! ;P~~ - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. Well, I may have been horribly raped back in 1998, but I paid $800 for my Akalabeth. !!! - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
I havn't got any spectacular tales to write about, but these are my best finds: Three copies of [MS(T)] Worlds of Ultima 2 Martian Dreams for $8 each. Ultima 8 by Softworld (the Chinese editor of Origin games) for $5 A huge bundle of Apple 2 games that included Ultima CPC (with manual) and other rare games (incomplete U2, etc) for $100 shipped. Another huge bundle of Apple 2 games that included another Ultima CPC (disk only) and other rare games (Autoduel complete, some Wizardries, U3, U4) for another $100 shipped. I was given the box of the autographed 10th Anniversary Worlds of Ultima Savage Empire. No contents, just the box. -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Admnistration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
I don't think you have been raped, I believe there was a floppy only Akalabeth that was sold (more or less recently) on eBay for $1000. To avoid severe budget strains, I have commited myself not to spend more than $50 USDs per game. Of course I'd break this rule on extreme exceptions (Akalabeth on eBay with a BIN of $51 ? ;) ), but so far it wasn't necessary. I think my record is still $35 on a [MS] Ultima 2nd trilogy Deluxe edition! :) -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Admnistration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: Assunto: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? John Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11-11-2002 08:54 Solicita-se resposta a john That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. Well, I may have been horribly raped back in 1998, but I paid $800 for my Akalabeth. !!! - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Apple EA: I keep the stuff sorted by publisher, so I could certainly write up a list. I should clarify that its to the best of my knowledge (37 titles is what it looks like). I never had an official catalog of all published titles, but I'm 99% certain I have the kitchen sink. I've trolled archives, newsgroups, old mags, etc. to find names Most I paid for a game was what we'll call major oops. New to ebay, had only actively started collecting for a few months, I put in a safety bid to keep snipers away and someone apparently did the same. So for a shrinkwrapped copy of Starflight I coughed up $250 bucks. I learned two valuable lessions that day and in the coming months: 1) Only bid what you're actually willing to pay 2) In almost every case, no matter how uncommon, there's a high probability that once a title appears, additional copies will appear shortly thereafter. Needless to say the title, while highly prized, can be had for much less. CF had described many moons ago how new collectors skew fair value for titles by doing stuff like this. -Original Message- From: Hugh Falk [mailto:hughfalk;mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Thanks for the minor deity status! I'd actually like to see what the complete EA Apple II catalog looks like. Do you have a list you could send me? Also, does that include IIgs? That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. For me it was Caverns of Callisto (NM), which I paid $111.38 on ebay. Considering I was looking for at least a couple of years, and this was the first one I saw, I'm surprised it didn't go for more. (April of this year). It's possible I've paid more for a single game in the past, but I don't think so (I might be repressing a horrible memory). Hugh -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:junk6;bellatlantic.net] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 7:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title (complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility, app, etc.) Of those by far the most satisfying to find: Marble Madness, Realm of Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox, Adventure Construction Set. Hugh is a tiny god for providing the EA Flatpack reference online :) I have all the Apple ][ Origin titles complete (except Caverns of Callisto, which I missed for $5 on a newsgroup last year). These two sets are by far my most valued, though there are buckets more that I prize as well (mostly RPG's). Both sets have at least one error-free set of disks (why collect if you can't play)? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Grrr... I stumbled on a complete VG/NM (somewhere in there) copy of Caverns for the Atari this year, but the Apple version keeps slipping away from me. As before, I'm trying to make disk images off the originals so I can play them in 20 years (or next weekend. Whatever.) The disks have lasted this long. Based on no scientific data whatsoever, I'd say 30 years (2x the max shelf life) is probably the most a disk can be expected to last w/o any special care. Origin apparently had an internal movement at one point to re-release all the classics (for the PC at least). I recall a newsgroup article by an employee at one point (or so they said) that they were going to remove the protection, redo the manual (probably as a PDF) and publish all the goods you can't find anymore (a la Lost Treasures of Infocom), but for free (download). The first one was supposed to be Auto Duel, but the idea was shot down (no suit likes to give away intellectual property for free and all). And for Auto Duel I'm sure SJG (Steve Jackson Games) might have something to say about that too. So, any of you coveted Apple Caverns owners want to let me borrow it for a week? :) (Raucous laughter subsides). Didn't think so. John: swamped w/Wasteland folders yet? -Original Message- From: John Romero [mailto:john;monkeystone.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? I have all the Apple ][ Origin titles complete (except Caverns of Callisto, which I missed for $5 on a newsgroup last year). These two sets are by far my most valued, though there are buckets more that I prize as well (mostly RPG's). Whoa, nice collection! I also love collecting Origin titles; they were one of my favorite game companies (which is also why I loved working for them in the 80's!) I have a mint Caverns of Callisto...heh... ;) - John -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:junk6;bellatlantic.net] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title (complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility, app, etc.) Of those by far the most satisfying to find: Marble Madness, Realm of Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox, Adventure Construction Set. Hugh is a tiny god for providing the EA Flatpack reference online :) I have all the Apple ][ Origin titles complete (except Caverns of Callisto, which I missed for $5 on a newsgroup last year). These two sets are by far my most valued, though there are buckets more that I prize as well (mostly RPG's). Both sets have at least one error-free set of disks (why collect if you can't play)? -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 12:45 AM, Hugh Falk wrote: [snip] I'm also proud of my complete collection of EA flat box games...not that they're rare or expensive. I just haven't seen another complete set...anybody on this list collect EA flats? The EA game I have are the common Bards Tale and Wasteland ones. Color me a classic RPGer. :) To expand on your point about not particularly rare or expensive games, I collect the old Avalon Hill computer games. They had some nifty hybrids (computer game with mounted map board and counters) and a messy listing of games. Trying to figure out what games are out there and then finding them is the fun for me. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
:-) JUST A JOKE, OF COURSE! :-) Hey John, if you wouldn't mind, can you share the highlights of your resume with the group? Not so much the games (which a lot of us know), but the roles you played on the teams. I didn't know about your time at Origin, for example. If this is already well documented somewhere, feel free to send a link. Hugh -Original Message- From: John Romero [mailto:john;monkeystone.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? end of the Golden Age of Gaming (by GOTCHA's definition), you have to love that gameCarmack sure knows how to make them ;-)) ^^^ DO I NEED TO KILL YOU FOR THAT REMARK??!!! ;P~~ - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Sounds reasonable to me...it would go for a lot more today. Is this for one of the Computerland versions? If so, it would definitely go for more. The big wildcard is that Richard Garriott seems to be making new ones with his original materials. I think we already debated the value of those in this group...and it would probably still go for more. Hugh -Original Message- From: John Romero [mailto:john;monkeystone.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. Well, I may have been horribly raped back in 1998, but I paid $800 for my Akalabeth. !!! - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Hugh Falk stated: AH was one of the most prolific publishers of the early 80's, but I guess their products overlapped and were just overshadowed by SSI. I didn't buy many computer games in the early '80s. Now that I think about it, I don't think my family had a computer until about 1983. And for a long time we only had one floppy disk for each of us because they were so expensive. Our entire software collection probably consisted of AppleWriter, MasterType (my parents' idea), and Choplifter for a year or so. But I digress Anyway, I didn't even know Avalon Hill made computer games until I found a copy of Andromeda Conquest at a closeout store. I think it was probably about $10, which was very cheap for software back then. Somewhere (hopefully at my parent's house) I still have it and the box. Lee just pointed out an AH game I have to put on my want list...Incunabula. Anybody have one for trade or sale? BTW, Hugh, it occurs to me that it's possible that game only came out for DOS compuers. I notice very little of your AH collection is DOS. Epyx is another company I heavily collect (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/epyx.htm). Again, I feel one of the most successful (yet underappreciated) publishers of the 80s. I don't know about most successful, but certainly one of the more successful publishers. It's a shame they're gone. -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Dan Chisarick stated: I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title (complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility, app, etc.) Of those by far the most satisfying to find: Marble Madness, Realm of Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox, Adventure Construction Set. Hugh is a tiny god for providing the EA Flatpack reference online :) That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that has rectangular, yellow stickers with red text reading DEMO COPY / line / NOT FOR RESALE on it. There's one on the front, one that was apparently holding the folio closed, and another on the disk. (The reference card is missing.) Anyone know the origin of these stickers? Was it a pre-release, a copy for review, a copy for a store to load on a computer for customers to try, or something else? -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Dan Chisarick stated: Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are the joysticks? Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those things, anyway? :) I guess its called the external keyboard. Sigh. Back on topic: Add Rescue Raiders to the list of gems. I never thought I'd get that, let alone a Demo copy (used the cheat keys/level skip keys... all the levels are intact. Demo copies of some titles are incomplete, some are full copies w/a DEMO sticker on them. This seems to be the latter.) Guess I should read ahead before posting. Okay, so how can I tell if my copy of Skyfox (for the Apple II, BTW) is a full copy or not? I don't have any other copies to compare it against. Any cheat keys I should try? -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Dan Chisarick stated: Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are the joysticks? Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those things, anyway? :) I guess its called the external keyboard. Sigh. Drat, forgot my reply to this part in my last post. There are joysticks for PDAs (e.g. http://www.tt-tec.com/html/Products/T102.htm), they're just not well supported by the games due to a lack of standards. -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that has rectangular, yellow stickers with red text reading DEMO COPY / line / NOT FOR RESALE on it. There's one on the front, one that was apparently holding the folio closed, and another on the disk. (The reference card is missing.) Anyone know the origin of these stickers? Was it a pre-release, a copy for review, a copy for a store to load on a computer for customers to try, or something else? Hey, if you want Ray Tobey to sign your Skyfox, I could probably arrange that, too. ;) - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 09:36 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] I've been thinking about this... and wouldn't it be safer to play off backup copies? I mean, the disk could get munched in the drive, the label could get scratched going in and out... or is that attitude too anal for the rest of this group? B-) If you can make backup copies. Grrr. Magazines like The Computist can be invaluable if you just want to make your legal backups. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
In high school and college, I worked in video-game retail throughout the mid-to-late 80s (at an Atari/Commodore/Apple store and later at EB). We would get demo copies just like you describe for store display. However, they probably could have been used for any of the purposes you mention. Hugh On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:21:06 -0600 (CST) Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Chisarick stated: I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title (complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility, app, etc.) Of those by far the most satisfying to find: Marble Madness, Realm of Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox, Adventure Construction Set. Hugh is a tiny god for providing the EA Flatpack reference online :) That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that has rectangular, yellow stickers with red text reading DEMO COPY / line / NOT FOR RESALE on it. There's one on the front, one that was apparently holding the folio closed, and another on the disk. (The reference card is missing.) Anyone know the origin of these stickers? Was it a pre-release, a copy for review, a copy for a store to load on a computer for customers to try, or something else? -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 10:32 PM, Dan Chisarick wrote: [Snip] Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are the joysticks? Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those things, anyway? :) I guess its called the external keyboard. Sigh. Sony has a game pad you can connect to their Clie PDAs if you want a PalmOS device. http://www.palminfocentre.com/view_story.asp?ID=4295 -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
The ones we got were consistantly full copies...never modified, except for the sticker to prevent the reseller from making money on it. Hugh On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:25:18 -0600 (CST) Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Chisarick stated: Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are the joysticks? Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those things, anyway? :) I guess its called the external keyboard. Sigh. Back on topic: Add Rescue Raiders to the list of gems. I never thought I'd get that, let alone a Demo copy (used the cheat keys/level skip keys... all the levels are intact. Demo copies of some titles are incomplete, some are full copies w/a DEMO sticker on them. This seems to be the latter.) Guess I should read ahead before posting. Okay, so how can I tell if my copy of Skyfox (for the Apple II, BTW) is a full copy or not? I don't have any other copies to compare it against. Any cheat keys I should try? -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
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On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 11:38 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: [Snip] That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. The most I've actually paid for a game -- I've bid higher, but not won the auction -- was ~$675 for an orange castle coversheet Akalabeth. (:chuckle: I needed the coversheet as those are what I'm missing from my other Akalabeth and my Ultima.) For me, the interesting thing is that the seller was one of the programmers for Arena and Daggerfall. It is cool to see that the people who develop the games are as serious collectors as us. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 12:04 AM, John Romero wrote: Hmm. Now I have an urge to go find Dungeon Campaign and Wilderness Campaign... Yes! I have mint copies of these two as well. Man, I am pretty loaded with Synergistic Software. :) Why do I have the feeling that the list of games you want, but don't have is pretty small? ;-) Is there anything in particular that you're still looking for? On a more general note, I'd love to see everyone's collections some time. I feel like a dilettante compared to the rest of you. grin -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Alexander Zoller wrote: [Snip] Favorite finds: items previously believed to NOT exist. Ultima III by US Gold, for example, or the slipcased Ultima Trilogy. Was this a US version? -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
Was this a US version? No, it was a European release by Microprose. They used to distribute Origin's games in sturdy, small-sized, two-piece cardboard boxes (same measurements as the Rainbird blue boxes -- a bunch of Level 9 and Magnetic Scrolls titles came in these). For some inscrutable reason, they took the same box type for the Trilogy again but used an additional slipcase, leaving the box halfs plain and white. It has been speculated this happened right before their joint venture with Origin ended (the license was turned over to Mindscape), and they may have been pressed for time. This seems to be confirmed by the fact that instead of printing a custom-sized manual for this release, they simply 'trimmed' the Trilogy's manual by about an inch so it would fit in the box. I can email you some pics. Also of the US Gold U3 if interested. /Alexander -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find? On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Alexander Zoller wrote: [Snip] Favorite finds: items previously believed to NOT exist. Ultima III by US Gold, for example, or the slipcased Ultima Trilogy. Was this a US version? -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
[SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
Sorry to start a new thread here, but I've got some catching up to do! :) Here are some of my favorite finds: 1. Lord British Starter Kit--Akalabeth and Ultima 1 sold together by California Pacific--still in the original baggie (also the most I ever paid for a title--$1,200.00 in a bundle w/about 20 other worthless titles--does this price set some kind of record?) 2. 2 original release Akalabeths--please see my article for detailed information. http://originmuseum.solsector.net/stories/story1.htm 3. Caverns of Callisto--Just because it's caused more buzzing from collectors recently--it wasn't that hard for me to find! :) 4. Savage Empire Special Edition-autographed (WITH the T-Shirt) 5. Ultima 1 for Atari 400/800-(breathes a sigh of relief after checking for counterfieiting!--Thanks for your diligence, guys!) 6. The Origin Audio CD-Volume 1--Not really a software title, but very hard to find. I found this in a used software store, and bought it for 5 BUCKS! LOADS of other stuff!--after re-reading this, I can't seem to decide on any 1 find... - Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com - -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 02:24 PM, Origin Museum wrote: [Snip] 1. Lord British Starter Kit--Akalabeth and Ultima 1 sold together by California Pacific--still in the original baggie (also the most I ever paid for a title--$1,200.00 in a bundle w/about 20 other worthless titles--does this price set some kind of record?) I don't believe so, not for an Ultima-related title. I vaguely remember someone complaining about snipers on Usenet after they lost an Ultima around $1,500. I could be wrong on that one, though. I do know that a shrinkwrapped Starcross saucer went for $2,000 on eBay. Oh, by the way, I got the $250 figure from a gentlemen who was at the UO Faire where that Akalabeth was auctioned. Normally he is reliable about such things. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 02:27 PM, Alexander Zoller wrote: [Snip] o, it was a European release by Microprose. They used to distribute Origin's games in sturdy, small-sized, two-piece cardboard boxes (same measurements as the Rainbird blue boxes -- a bunch of Level 9 and Magnetic Scrolls titles came in these). For some inscrutable reason, they took the same box type for the Trilogy again but used an additional slipcase, leaving the box halfs plain and white. It has been speculated this happened right before their joint venture with Origin ended (the license was turned over to Mindscape), and they may have been pressed for time. This seems to be confirmed by the fact that instead of printing a custom-sized manual for this release, they simply 'trimmed' the Trilogy's manual by about an inch so it would fit in the box. Ah, that sounds like my CPC Progame version of Ultima. My Japanese version only differs from the regular version by the addition of a cheap photocopy of the manual that was partially written in Japanese Kanji (?). I can email you some pics. Also of the US Gold U3 if interested. I'd like to see those. I always thought that the US Gold box for U4 was one of the best. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
Welcome aboard, Joe! Haven't heard from you in a while. By the way, I couldn't link to your story below. Hugh -Original Message- From: Origin Museum [mailto:originmuseum;crius.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] What's your favorite find? Sorry to start a new thread here, but I've got some catching up to do! :) Here are some of my favorite finds: 1. Lord British Starter Kit--Akalabeth and Ultima 1 sold together by California Pacific--still in the original baggie (also the most I ever paid for a title--$1,200.00 in a bundle w/about 20 other worthless titles--does this price set some kind of record?) 2. 2 original release Akalabeths--please see my article for detailed information. http://originmuseum.solsector.net/stories/story1.htm 3. Caverns of Callisto--Just because it's caused more buzzing from collectors recently--it wasn't that hard for me to find! :) 4. Savage Empire Special Edition-autographed (WITH the T-Shirt) 5. Ultima 1 for Atari 400/800-(breathes a sigh of relief after checking for counterfieiting!--Thanks for your diligence, guys!) 6. The Origin Audio CD-Volume 1--Not really a software title, but very hard to find. I found this in a used software store, and bought it for 5 BUCKS! LOADS of other stuff!--after re-reading this, I can't seem to decide on any 1 find... - Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com - -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
It sounds like we could get a lot of autographs between the two of us. I could just about throw an EA Flat at Mike Abbott's office (Hard Hat Mack) from where I sit. If anybody wants an autograph, let me know, I don't think he'd mind. John, I'd actually like a Ray Tobey autographed Skyfox if its not too much of a hassle. (I'd have to dig a copy out, but I think I know where that one is). Wastland would be great as well. Let me know if it's not too much trouble. Hugh -Original Message- From: John Romero [mailto:john;monkeystone.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that has rectangular, yellow stickers with red text reading DEMO COPY / line / NOT FOR RESALE on it. There's one on the front, one that was apparently holding the folio closed, and another on the disk. (The reference card is missing.) Anyone know the origin of these stickers? Was it a pre-release, a copy for review, a copy for a store to load on a computer for customers to try, or something else? Hey, if you want Ray Tobey to sign your Skyfox, I could probably arrange that, too. ;) - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
I've met a lot of collectors in the game development ranks. Which makes sense since a lot of developers get into games because they're passionate about them. Though I've found very few as serious about it as us. Also, I generally run into console (2600, Colecovision) collectors. Steve Meretzky was the only serious PC game collector I met. I know one with an incredible pinball game collection as well. Hugh -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 11:38 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: [Snip] That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. The most I've actually paid for a game -- I've bid higher, but not won the auction -- was ~$675 for an orange castle coversheet Akalabeth. (:chuckle: I needed the coversheet as those are what I'm missing from my other Akalabeth and my Ultima.) For me, the interesting thing is that the seller was one of the programmers for Arena and Daggerfall. It is cool to see that the people who develop the games are as serious collectors as us. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Yes! I have mint copies of these two as well. Man, I am pretty loaded with Synergistic Software. :) Got Warlock's Revenge? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
BTW I have all 89 issues of Computist + the four errata issues. The Super IOB images are on Asimov. Mail me if you're interested in any sort of info, etc. I'm not great, but I've normalized a good stack that weren't in any of those issues. John, if you don't mind yet another question your way... classic game copy protection is one of those perverse fascinations of mine. Some of them (Nassir's 4+4 encoded, spiral quarter-tracked, self-modifying loader-that-sits-on-video-memory with a nibble-count mess) were just unreal. Mercifully, most schemes were home-grown almost-DOS 3.3 variants. When writing games that integrated with copy protection, what considerations did you have to make? Was development done w/the protection in mind, or was it normal file-based code until it was ready for commercial release? -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 09:36 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] I've been thinking about this... and wouldn't it be safer to play off backup copies? I mean, the disk could get munched in the drive, the label could get scratched going in and out... or is that attitude too anal for the rest of this group? B-) If you can make backup copies. Grrr. Magazines like The Computist can be invaluable if you just want to make your legal backups. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Oh, another thing: y'all probably didn't know that I wrote InfoDOS, Infocom's DOS for Zork Zero and a few of their other games ;) - John -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:junk6;bellatlantic.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? John, if you don't mind yet another question your way... classic game copy protection is one of those perverse fascinations of mine. Some of them (Nassir's 4+4 encoded, spiral quarter-tracked, self-modifying loader-that-sits-on-video-memory with a nibble-count mess) were just unreal. Mercifully, most schemes were home-grown almost-DOS 3.3 variants. When writing games that integrated with copy protection, what considerations did you have to make? Was development done w/the protection in mind, or was it normal file-based code until it was ready for commercial release? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
One of these is a copy of Star Saga: One for the Apple II. All the materials inside are unused and the manuals are shrinkwrapped. I don't recall hearing about it until I found it, but I thought it was cool finding it in that condition. I have no sentimental attachment to it, however, and have decided to see what it will fetch on eBay. They generally seem to snag about $50 - $60, from what I've seen. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 12:45 AM, Hugh Falk wrote: [snip] I'm also proud of my complete collection of EA flat box games...not that they're rare or expensive. I just haven't seen another complete set...anybody on this list collect EA flats? The EA game I have are the common Bards Tale and Wasteland ones. Color me a classic RPGer. :) To expand on your point about not particularly rare or expensive games, I collect the old Avalon Hill computer games. They had some nifty hybrids (computer game with mounted map board and counters) and a messy listing of games. Trying to figure out what games are out there and then finding them is the fun for me. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
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I also collect AH games. My list is here: http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/avalonhill.htm (no history section for AH yet...need to get to that). For some reason AH games are not very desirable on ebay (with only a few exceptions like Telengard). AH was one of the most prolific publishers of the early 80's, but I guess their products overlapped and were just overshadowed by SSI. Lee just pointed out an AH game I have to put on my want list...Incunabula. Anybody have one for trade or sale? Epyx is another company I heavily collect (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/epyx.htm). Again, I feel one of the most successful (yet underappreciated) publishers of the 80s. Hugh -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 7:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 12:45 AM, Hugh Falk wrote: [snip] I'm also proud of my complete collection of EA flat box games...not that they're rare or expensive. I just haven't seen another complete set...anybody on this list collect EA flats? The EA game I have are the common Bards Tale and Wasteland ones. Color me a classic RPGer. :) To expand on your point about not particularly rare or expensive games, I collect the old Avalon Hill computer games. They had some nifty hybrids (computer game with mounted map board and counters) and a messy listing of games. Trying to figure out what games are out there and then finding them is the fun for me. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
I also collect AH games. My list is here: http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/avalonhill.htm (no history section for AH yet...need to get to that). For some reason AH games are not very desirable on ebay (with only a few exceptions like Telengard). AH was one of the most prolific publishers of the early 80's, but I guess their products overlapped and were just overshadowed by SSI. Indeed, they released a ton of titles and most are relatively easily to find, but most aren't very sought after by collectors. It's a shame, there are some neat pieces in some of them, such as game boards and markers. If anyone is looking for any particular titles, I have a boatload I haven't gotten around to listing yet. Hugh, I notice you list Police Blotter as an adventure, can you tell me a bit more about it? I haven't seen it on any of the adventure lists I've come across. Lee just pointed out an AH game I have to put on my want list...Incunabula. Anybody have one for trade or sale? Don't have this one, sorry. My current overlooked company is Med Systems / Screenplay. They published graphic adventures, RPG hack-and-slashes, and maze quests in the early 1980s. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
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Both sets have at least one error-free set of disks (why collect if you can't play)? I've been thinking about this... and wouldn't it be safer to play off backup copies? I mean, the disk could get munched in the drive, the label could get scratched going in and out... or is that attitude too anal for the rest of this group? B-) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
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Too anal? Certainly not for me, and I doubt for most people here... I didn't want to blab/stray off-topic or I'd go off for 50 pages. I image all the floppies (either normalize them or make nibble images) copy them over a string of computers and burn the images on CD for use on an emulator. The same images can be used to create real Apple disk images in the future if I want to play them on a real Apple. I hunt originals because I want to preserve as much of the original (no crack screens, etc.) as possible. Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are the joysticks? Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those things, anyway? :) I guess its called the external keyboard. Sigh. Back on topic: Add Rescue Raiders to the list of gems. I never thought I'd get that, let alone a Demo copy (used the cheat keys/level skip keys... all the levels are intact. Demo copies of some titles are incomplete, some are full copies w/a DEMO sticker on them. This seems to be the latter.) Had the original receipt and some Sir-Tech dealer promo letter in there too. Cool. -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:ceforman;earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 10:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Both sets have at least one error-free set of disks (why collect if you can't play)? I've been thinking about this... and wouldn't it be safer to play off backup copies? I mean, the disk could get munched in the drive, the label could get scratched going in and out... or is that attitude too anal for the rest of this group? B-) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Copies are the way to go for playing, and I usually let other people do the copying. Finding good original games at a garage sale, thrift store, flea market, etc. is a rarity for me (especially since I don't go often anymore). However, I've found hundreds of copies or loose originals at these places. People often sell disk cases full of them for a few bucks. They don't have much value to the collector but are great for playing. Now here's a question. If you own the 20-year-old original, is buying 20-year-old copies (likely pirated 20 years ago) still pirating? :-) Hugh -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:ceforman;earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 7:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Both sets have at least one error-free set of disks (why collect if you can't play)? I've been thinking about this... and wouldn't it be safer to play off backup copies? I mean, the disk could get munched in the drive, the label could get scratched going in and out... or is that attitude too anal for the rest of this group? B-) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
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Thanks for the minor deity status! I'd actually like to see what the complete EA Apple II catalog looks like. Do you have a list you could send me? Also, does that include IIgs? That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. For me it was Caverns of Callisto (NM), which I paid $111.38 on ebay. Considering I was looking for at least a couple of years, and this was the first one I saw, I'm surprised it didn't go for more. (April of this year). It's possible I've paid more for a single game in the past, but I don't think so (I might be repressing a horrible memory). Hugh -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:junk6;bellatlantic.net] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 7:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title (complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility, app, etc.) Of those by far the most satisfying to find: Marble Madness, Realm of Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox, Adventure Construction Set. Hugh is a tiny god for providing the EA Flatpack reference online :) I have all the Apple ][ Origin titles complete (except Caverns of Callisto, which I missed for $5 on a newsgroup last year). These two sets are by far my most valued, though there are buckets more that I prize as well (mostly RPG's). Both sets have at least one error-free set of disks (why collect if you can't play)? -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 12:45 AM, Hugh Falk wrote: [snip] I'm also proud of my complete collection of EA flat box games...not that they're rare or expensive. I just haven't seen another complete set...anybody on this list collect EA flats? The EA game I have are the common Bards Tale and Wasteland ones. Color me a classic RPGer. :) To expand on your point about not particularly rare or expensive games, I collect the old Avalon Hill computer games. They had some nifty hybrids (computer game with mounted map board and counters) and a messy listing of games. Trying to figure out what games are out there and then finding them is the fun for me. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
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Regarding Odyssey: The Compleat Adventure: I remember this one, this was a GREAT game! It's in four parts, right? First you fight monsters, trade, and acquire enough money to build a ship and leave the island, then you have to navigate the ocean, find a magic artifact in some catacombs (my memory here's a bit fuzzy) and then use it to storm the bad guy's fortress. My cousin and I used to play it on his IIe. The only thing was, he'd gotten a pirate copy so a lot of the text had been hacked to display dirty words. IIRC, there was also a sequel, Apventure to Atlantis I think. Yes, I have several mint copies of Odyssey. I also have some mint Apventures as well, all straight from Bob Clardy himself! :) - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Hmm. Now I have an urge to go find Dungeon Campaign and Wilderness Campaign... Yes! I have mint copies of these two as well. Man, I am pretty loaded with Synergistic Software. :) - John -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 08:41 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] I remember this one, this was a GREAT game! It's in four parts, right? First you fight monsters, trade, and acquire enough money to build a ship and leave the island, then you have to navigate the ocean, find a magic artifact in some catacombs (my memory here's a bit fuzzy) and then use it to storm the bad guy's fortress. My cousin and I used to play it on his IIe. The only thing was, he'd gotten a pirate copy so a lot of the text had been hacked to display dirty words. That's the one. :) It is wild to see how inventive people were with such limited resources. IIRC, there was also a sequel, Apventure to Atlantis I think. I have that one as well. I haven't started it yet as I need to complete my Odyssey first. Hmm. Now I have an urge to go find Dungeon Campaign and Wilderness Campaign... -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
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Speaking of Wasteland, if any of you have a copy that you'd really love to have autographed, I could probably arrange for you to have your copy autographed by Alan Pavlish... :) - John -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 12:45 AM, Hugh Falk wrote: [snip] I'm also proud of my complete collection of EA flat box games...not that they're rare or expensive. I just haven't seen another complete set...anybody on this list collect EA flats? The EA game I have are the common Bards Tale and Wasteland ones. Color me a classic RPGer. :) To expand on your point about not particularly rare or expensive games, I collect the old Avalon Hill computer games. They had some nifty hybrids (computer game with mounted map board and counters) and a messy listing of games. Trying to figure out what games are out there and then finding them is the fun for me. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
[SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Figured I'd switch topics here since it had to happen sooner or later! What's your favorite old software find that you have? I have a *bunch* of old ziploc baggie games from the early days, but I'd have to say that my favorite ones are: (1) Pristine, perfect complete collection of Softalk magazine (1980-1984) (2) Akalabeth (the one with the orange castle) (3) Master Disks for a few of Nasir Gebelli's games: Horizon V, Eggs-It, Neptune. (4) Signed copy of Phantom's Five (Nasir) (5) Perfect box copy of Ultima II (6) Signed copy of Cyber Strike (Nasir) (7) Signed copy of Both Barrels (Nasir) - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
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What's your favorite old software find that you have? Since John listed 7, so will I... 1. Shrinked PC re-release from SoftSmith, of Sentient Software's Cyborg by Michael Berlyn. Currently the only known PC copy in existence (unless you've got one and haven't come forward yet). 2. Softporn by Sierra. Gotta love Roberta in a hot tub. B-) 3. Adventure in Serenia, Sierra's PC version of Wizard and the Princess. 4. Signed photo of Douglas Adams and Steve Meretzky, from their days at Infocom. (Okay, technically that's not software, but it's related.) 5. Myth by Magnetic Scrolls. Given away to members of the Official Secrets adventurers' club, in Europe. Never available to U.S. players. 6. and 7. Scott Adams Limited Gold Edition collectors' cases (both disk and cassette versions), only 1000 made. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 05:09 PM, John Romero wrote: Figured I'd switch topics here since it had to happen sooner or later! What's your favorite old software find that you have? My favorite find was a big box Ultima II. I found it at a used bookstore that was starting to resell old computer software. I was startled to see a number of Apple ][ Ultimas there. As I looked through the stacks there it was. I couldn't believe my luck when I saw the price tag of $4. Yes, four dollars. When I opened it, though, I realized that I had made the mythical killer find. You see, there were two cloth maps, two sets of disks, two manuals (one being a first edition!)... I had one box with double the fun. :-D Another favorite find was Odyssey: The Compleat Apventure by Robert Clardy (Synergestic Software). I remember the hours and hours I used to play this game in college. Finding a mint copy was a fun bit of nostalgia. Even better I found I still enjoy the game today. Ultima: Escape from Mt. Drash is one simply because it took me three years to find a copy. Before I found my copy several people had claimed to own a copy, but when asked to share some information about the game they had numerous excuses why they couldn't share (my favorite being the one where the person claimed their Drash cartridge (!) was cracked). -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
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On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, John Romero wrote: Figured I'd switch topics here since it had to happen sooner or later! What's your favorite old software find that you have? I have a copy of Adventure in Serenia as well. Paid top dollar for it; it's always going to be the centerpiece of my collection, seeing how it's the first game (out of, oh, many hundred) I ever finished. (I restrict my collecting to PC games only, so this is about as rare as it gets -- no Akalabeth for me.) I also managed to lift a big-box IBM Ultima II off eBay for $25, heh. It's not in great shape, though; maybe I'll get around to finding a box in better condition some day. -- Stephen -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
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John Romero stated: What's your favorite old software find that you have? Just to introduce myself to Mr. Romero and whoever else might be new, I'm not really much of a software collector. I find the topic quite interesting, but my personal passion is old video games (e.g. Atari 2600). Once MobyGames started up, though, I couldn't seem to help but wanting to buy old computer software when I found it. Before that, I might pick up an Infocom game if I saw one, but that was about it. At the moment, being unemployed and in need of money, I'm finally getting ready to sell many items. Some I'd never intended to keep and just hadn't gotten around to selling. Others I thought I might keep but current circumstances dictate they must go. One of these is a copy of Star Saga: One for the Apple II. All the materials inside are unused and the manuals are shrinkwrapped. I don't recall hearing about it until I found it, but I thought it was cool finding it in that condition. I have no sentimental attachment to it, however, and have decided to see what it will fetch on eBay. -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Wow, there are so many...maybe too many. However, the ones that stick out in my mind aren't necessarily the best or rarest games I have, it's the best deals I found. So I'll just name the ones I got for free (the deal can't get any better than that): Akalabeth Starcross (Saucer Package) Suspended (Mask Box) Infocom folios -- Deadline, Suspended, Seastalker, Infidel, Planetfall, Enchanter, etc. Ultima Ultima II small box Ultima II big box Sierra folios -- Ulysses, Mystery House, Wizard and Princess, Time Zone, etc. I'll stop there...literally hundreds more. How did I get all these for free? On eBay, believe it or not, and they weren't free...initially . They came in large lots of stuff (usually with a ton of hardware). The games weren't even mentioned in the lots (so a search wouldn't find them). However, they were in the pictures, and I was lucky to spot them. I won the lots and kept the games. I sold the stuff I didn't want back on eBay (splitting up the items and with better advertising) and made more than I paid for the original lots. So the games actually made me money. I don't know if it's because I have less time or if these deals aren't around any more, but I haven't scored one in quite a while. I really miss the old days of ebay (5 years ago! :-) I'm also proud of my complete collection of EA flat box games...not that they're rare or expensive. I just haven't seen another complete set...anybody on this list collect EA flats? Hugh -Original Message- From: John Romero [mailto:john;monkeystone.com] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Figured I'd switch topics here since it had to happen sooner or later! What's your favorite old software find that you have? I have a *bunch* of old ziploc baggie games from the early days, but I'd have to say that my favorite ones are: (1) Pristine, perfect complete collection of Softalk magazine (1980-1984) (2) Akalabeth (the one with the orange castle) (3) Master Disks for a few of Nasir Gebelli's games: Horizon V, Eggs-It, Neptune. (4) Signed copy of Phantom's Five (Nasir) (5) Perfect box copy of Ultima II (6) Signed copy of Cyber Strike (Nasir) (7) Signed copy of Both Barrels (Nasir) - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/