Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

Heh... I got to troubleshoot an Optaphone last summer. Absolutely nothing wrong with the equipment, just a n connector that wasn't sealed properly by the operators doing their own maintenance or something and took on some water. I recall that it had been installed circa 2002 in this particular ap

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. COMPACT shootout dare

That's good to hear. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 21, 2015 8:59 PM, "Patrick Leary" wrote: > Thanks Jaime. I only dare because I've enough customer examples to know > I'm more than safe. > On Feb 21, 2015 8:49 PM, "Jaime So

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. COMPACT shootout dare

Thanks Jaime. I only dare because I've enough customer examples to know I'm more than safe. On Feb 21, 2015 8:49 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Touche' Patrick... its great when you know what your product can do. > Wonder who will take the challenge? To misquote Ten Bears...your words > have iron

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. COMPACT shootout dare

Touche' Patrick... its great when you know what your product can do. Wonder who will take the challenge? To misquote Ten Bears...your words have iron no paper can hold... Jaime Solorza On Feb 21, 2015 6:42 PM, "Patrick Leary" wrote: > Put it this way, you guys want to organize a foliage-based

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. COMPACT shootout dare

450 doesn’t have anything over LTE, I see this more what deployment strategy an operator wants to follow: 1. Macro type deployment, Lte ,high customer count per site ratio, $$$ 2. Micro site deployment,450 or wifi based gear, med to low customer count per site ratio, low $ Gino A. Vill

[AFMUG] PMP450 vs. COMPACT shootout dare

Put it this way, you guys want to organize a foliage-based NLOS shoot out in 3.65? Do it. I'll provide the gear on my end. If I don't at least twice the distance of the 450 at the same mod, I'll give you the gear. If I do, you ALL taking up the dare put in orders. Deal? -- Patrick Leary Director

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

The issue was the implied inclusiveness. That is the way it was sold. Maybe it could do 70 Mbps. Maybe it could go 70 miles. Maybe it could support 70 PMP customers. But it could not do all 3 at the same time. Whatcha want Bunky; 70 Mbps, 70 miles, or 70 PMP customers? Pick one. bp On

Re: [AFMUG] COMPACT vs. PMP450 Shootout Comment

You missed this part: "*We have tested both the Cambium PMP450 product in the past, with minimal success when dealing with NLOS due to foliage (the link would disappear after a few hundred meters of NLOS coverage). Our testing so far with the Telrad COMPACT1000 and their CPE7000 outdoor CPE has be

Re: [AFMUG] COMPACT vs. PMP450 Shootout Comment

Iirc Rory wanted a Telrad vs Cambium 450 shootout… not the 320 Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Patrick Leary mailto:patrickleary.af...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Saturd

Re: [AFMUG] COMPACT vs. PMP450 Shootout Comment

The name withheld in that one is because the user would rather not upset their former vendor, yet. I do not think they've broken the news. Been a long time coming. I saw things go the other way back in the old Alvarion days. On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Name withheld..

Re: [AFMUG] COMPACT vs. PMP450 Shootout Comment

There have been several, Josh. Nathan Stooke liked it to much he is buying $2.3M worth of it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:28:38 PM S

Re: [AFMUG] COMPACT vs. PMP450 Shootout Comment

Name withheld... >From where I'm looking I haven't seen any one from WISPA or AFMUG speak highly about the product publicly. I'm concerned why. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 21, 2015 8:24 PM, "Patrick Leary" wrote: > Rory,

[AFMUG] COMPACT vs. PMP450 Shootout Comment

Rory, so this is not buried in the last thread: *"We have seen exceptional results when testing Telrad’s equipment. Our terrain is rough at best, abrupt elevation changes with thick forests throughout our network footprint. We have tested both the Cambium PMP450 product in the past, with minimal s

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

We installed Optophones in Santa Ana and Coleman Texas!!! Damn small world Jaime Solorza On Feb 21, 2015 3:13 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I know a guy that used to modify cordless phones back in about 1990. > Garberville California. His name was Nat. He could get 5 miles out of > those thin

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

It’s the best way to deploy Ubiquiti because the APs are inexpensive and the processors can’t handle a lot of overhead or users. You make a lot of new friends too because people with APs on their house are the first to call when it goes down. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Be

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

Except for the fact that gamers will always complain, there's never been a legitimate complaint. As the customer quote mentioned, his gamer's performance improved compared to UBNT...even running WiMAX. That's with a gamer who does several hundred gig a month. That's because the jitter under WiMAX (

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

If you never had a latency complaint, you never served many gamers... From: Patrick Leary Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"? That just me drinking the Koolaid and believing it Jason. I do though

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

I know a guy that used to modify cordless phones back in about 1990. Garberville California. His name was Nat. He could get 5 miles out of those things. At the time Jim Carlson was selling TVs and hot tubs. Jim decided to make a higher powered (2 watts) UHF version called the OptaPhone. I

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

I'm looking forward to their entry. As far as I see it, only two companies are out there really trying to break the mold. We are defining what it means to do fixed LTE and they are setting the bar in traditional unlicensed. On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Mimosa will be a

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

Mimosa will be a contender in the big boy WISP arena when they finally release their PtMP. I dunno that UBNT will have the advanced capabilities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Patrick Leary < >> >> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Know this though, should a competent COMPACT operator come into your >> >>> market...your goose is cooked. Until then, hold

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

MPACT operator come into your > >>> market...your goose is cooked. Until then, hold any opinion that > >>> makes you comfortable. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Patrick Leary > > Director BD, North America, Telrad

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

;> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Patrick Leary < > >> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Know this though, should a competent COMPACT operator come into your > >>> market...your goose is cooked. Until then, hold any opinion that >

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

Show me 100w amp that will work on this? Then you need the same amp on the customer side. These cards are old news On Feb 21, 2015 11:04 AM, "Philip Rankin" wrote: > Paul, Absolutely not legal for any commercial purpose and can only be used > by a licensed amateur radio operator, not the general

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

d any opinion that >>> makes you comfortable. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Patrick Leary > Director BD, North America, Telrad > 727.501.3735 > patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] > patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my >

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

Paul, Absolutely not legal for any commercial purpose and can only be used by a licensed amateur radio operator, not the general public in any way!!! I doubt that even the Ham operator can even access the general Internet with it legally! But, as a Ham, and as a tinkerer, it would be really intere

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

Moving the AP closer to the user vs. trying to serve customers further out from a central site. The microcell model works a lot better than macrocell when it comes to unlicensed IMO. There are also many different levels of micro and macro cells. On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Jaime Solorza wr

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

Here are the jitter quotes I was looking fro from Daniel Moore: "There is a higher latency on the WiMAX platform. With LTE we see an average of 20 ms added vs 40-60 ms with WiMAX. That said- the latency & jitter is much more stable than our WIFI gear. Almost no jitter on both WiMAX and LTE. With U

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

No one is saying f'off but you. I responding to your disbelief. I'm never going to convince everyone, nor will we ever be a fit for everyone, nor do we want everyone. Right now we are attracting a pretty good crowd, mostly consisting of long time Cambium users. And I mean major WISPs; lots of them.

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

They had a microcell vs macrocell seminar at show but I was in Phoenix Contact training off site in 20 words or less what is difference? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > The more

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

The more I do wireless, the more I prefer the microcell model. Telrad's equipment certainly seems like something you would use in a macrocell-type setup, if for no other reason than price. I've seen much more consistent jitter when using Ubiquiti in a microcell vs macrocell application. On Sat,

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

So the solution to the price points and the legitimate concerns of smaller operators is not to address them directly, but rather to insult prospective customers? I understand, a customer concerned about cost is likely not going to be a good long term prospect when selling a higher ended product wit

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

Here is Daniel Moore quote from when he first fired up his new gear: " We deployed two Compacts this week, different towers. Our first two installations were completed tonight on Tower 1, here are the results--- The first- customer is aprox 6 miles from the base station. Behind a small hill. T

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

Meant to say between his Telrad gear and his UBNT links. On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: > That just me drinking the Koolaid and believing it Jason. I do though > think the latency ding Moto users have always done is a red herring. I've > never in my entire career had an ac

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

That just me drinking the Koolaid and believing it Jason. I do though think the latency ding Moto users have always done is a red herring. I've never in my entire career had an actual operator using my gear telling latency caused them problems. The issue is really jitter, and we do better than UBNT

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

Ok, with all due respect, this is BS (and I'm not talking about Base Station either). With some of the new gear that Ubiquiti has and Mimosa is releasing, I could get more bandwidth and lower latency to the end user at a lower price - this is what WISPs have excelled at for many years. I'm sure yo

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

speaking of legal. I hear the Mennonites in Cuahtemoc Chih have their own long range cordless telephone system using 200=300MHz systems from Senao/Engenius with 100 ft. towers. they use as two way radio as well. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:0

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

Would it be usable for commercial purposes? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:22 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read Well if you have a HAM license for this band you can transmit data in the 420 to 450MHz b

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

Well if you have a HAM license for this band you can transmit data in the 420 to 450MHz band US or 430 to 450MHz Europe at very high power levels using 5 and 10MHz channels!!! They use an approach used by many to up or down convert a frequency from say 2.4GHz down to 902-928MHz.. eg .(Shireen, T

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

And not legal for commercial use I'm sure... On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > My take on it is that it is a "semi-off-the-shelf" way to do broadband > in the 420-450 MHz band. Might have twice the foliage-penetrating > capability of 900 MHz. > > bp > > > > On 2/21/2015 9

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

My take on it is that it is a "semi-off-the-shelf" way to do broadband in the 420-450 MHz band. Might have twice the foliage-penetrating capability of 900 MHz. bp On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote: Jaime, Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please? What, exactly, can w

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

Jaime, Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please? What, exactly, can we do with this? Jaime Solorza On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

yeppers...I think our military uses something similar in 300MHz band using Atheros based transceiver and UDC from ???. I said too much Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Philip Rankin wrote: > As an old time Ham Operator, it would be pr

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

Ryan, that should be the very worst case on the CPE and that's all in (no caps of course), except for the cable. It even includes the mount bracket, as shown circled here: [image: Inline image 1] On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Ryan Ray wrote: > Assuming we did have the fiber what would be an

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

As an old time Ham Operator, it would be pretty cool to operate a data station at 420MHz using 100 watts or more! I intend to research it more. On Feb 21, 2015 10:53 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Well I found it interesting > > Jaime Solorza > On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"?

Assuming we did have the fiber what would be an accurate number for everything needed to hang a bts. Earlier in your comments you said about $275 per cpe? Sent while mobile > On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:07 AM, Patrick Leary > wrote: > > Neighborhood style micro pop would be doable. Not sure the ec

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

Well I found it interesting Jaime Solorza On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Architect > 915-861-1390 >

[AFMUG] Info for Telrad COMPACT FCC filing in 3.65 GHz LTE

I was advised to post this info. This would be a typical case, assuming the 4-port 65 degree antenna. Antenna manufacturer: Alpha Wireless Antenna Model Number: AW3023 Antenna gain: 18.0 dBi Beamwidth: 65° Azimuth: 70.0° Polarization: Dual polarity, dual slant, +/- 45° Elevation angle: out

[AFMUG] Interesting read

http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Canopy FSK 5.2 and 5.4 SMs

yes 2015-02-21 7:36 GMT+01:00 Kurt Fankhauser : > $5 per radio? > > > Kurt Fankhauser > > Wavelinc Communications > > P.O. Box 126 > > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > > http://www.wavelinc.com > > tel. 419-562-6405 > > fax. 419-617-0110 > > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Daniel Gerlach > wrote: >> >> i a