[FRIAM] another good bundle!

2018-12-24 Thread glen e p ropella
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/stem-books -- glen ep ropella 971-599-3737 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.

[FRIAM] but it feels good

2020-02-14 Thread glen e p ropella
https://changelog.com/posts/why-do-so-many-developers-get-dry-wrong > Once you eeked out enough XP to reach Level 2, condensing that copy pasta > down felt amazing. Suddenly your code looked more impressive. Efficient! > Clean! Simple! This is like the lowest common form of refactoring. But it

Re: [FRIAM] on stupidity

2020-02-14 Thread glen e p ropella
Hm. But you can't deny that we're all stupid at some time, in some context, for some isolated decision. The point is that a slight deviation is "yet another episode of my stupidity", whereas a large deviation implies a different basis ... like the garbage poetry I wrote as a kid. It's so stupid,

Re: [FRIAM] Wittgenstein

2008-10-08 Thread glen e. p. ropella
complete), then it is either true or false. But just because a statement is true doesn't mean it's sound ... i.e. backed up by data taken from reality. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied C

Re: [FRIAM] Origami metaphor (Level b)

2008-10-08 Thread glen e. p. ropella
uniqueness of a particular shape given those constraints. But such an analogy would be even weaker and wouldn't help explain Wittgenstein's position, I don't think. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com ==

Re: [FRIAM] government hierarchy (was Re: Willful Ignorance)

2008-10-09 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake Phil Henshaw circa 10/09/2008 04:48 AM: > Right, but totally inconsistent with your first statement "just hire an > expert". You must be confusing me with someone else. I've been arguing _against_ "just hire an expert" the whole time. -- glen e.

Re: [FRIAM] Not a bad idea

2008-10-09 Thread glen e. p. ropella
of their own voice. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Relaxed Selection, a b-level posting

2008-10-13 Thread glen e. p. ropella
be our species, may be determined by the next five generations. So I don't really give a shit what's happening to our genetic evolution." -- Paul Ehrlich -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] Selection, Reproductive rate, and Karrying Kapacity.

2008-10-13 Thread glen e. p. ropella
g capacity is increased, the whole > population can expand, but this does not stop selection. It may > change the nature of selection from tracking how well individuals can > make use of limited resources to how fast they can reproduce when > times are flush, but there is no reason to

Re: [FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all the humans

2008-10-17 Thread glen e. p. ropella
e of: Thus spake peter circa 10/01/2008 09:50 AM: > Sure I will dig out some names ... > [...] > > glen e. p. ropella wrote: >> But can you help me reduce my ignorance? Which "complexity science >> geniuses" created these credit models? And which ones do you thi

Re: [FRIAM] Cloud Computing?

2008-10-20 Thread glen e. p. ropella
attention. If any of you have done this, I'd appreciate any pointers to make the work easier. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at

Re: [FRIAM] Blinded By Science - When models FAIL taking all the humans

2008-10-20 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake peter circa 10/18/2008 07:26 PM: > glen e. p. ropella wrote: >> Peter? Did you ever get a chance to dig up some names of these >> "complexity science geniuses"? >> > > Lets see how accurate these names are and when they get their subpoenas >

Re: [FRIAM] The true crisis is still to come

2008-10-27 Thread glen e. p. ropella
he peak oil issue from the global climate change issue and focus solely on peak oil and the origins of oil... for now, anyway.) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meet

Re: [FRIAM] Election: Why So Close

2008-10-31 Thread glen e. p. ropella
ems, in order to make our political decisions? What is it about dichotomy (usually false) that helps us cognitively? ... especially to make the transition from thought to action? -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://tempusdictum.com

Re: [FRIAM] Election: Why So Close

2008-10-31 Thread glen e. p. ropella
lly rewrite the law with later that may, in fact, provide true open primaries. Gee, what's an average moron like me supposed to do, here? Do I vote for it or not? In the end, I resorted to my old tactic of not voting for things I don't understand, especially one's that amend constitu

Re: [FRIAM] Election: Why So Close

2008-10-31 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Are there any generic (abstracted) properties of circumstances where habit is clearly best ... or where in-depth analysis is clearly best? -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group lists

Re: [FRIAM] Election: Why So Close

2008-10-31 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake Douglas Roberts circa 10/31/2008 05:15 PM: > It is if you are my shill, sitting out there in the audience amongst all the > rubes. I live to serve! -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://tempusdictum.com

Re: [FRIAM] Obama, Proposition 8

2008-11-11 Thread glen e. p. ropella
and; but neither can be a wife. Personally, I think marriage is an obsolete concept. We should completely separate legal contracts from religious ceremonies and purge "marriage" from the law entirely. It should be in the exact same category as baptism. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095

Re: [FRIAM] Obama, Proposition 8

2008-11-11 Thread glen e. p. ropella
nate the concept of "marriage" completely, for everyone. This would include legalizing poly[gamy|andry]. If 2, 3, or N people want to enter into a contract that involves household assets and medical power of attorney, then so be it. But leave your religion at the threshold of the courthou

Re: [FRIAM] Dictionary definitions

2008-11-12 Thread glen e. p. ropella
it's evidence that people are seeking better, more expressive language with which to express the human condition. It is progressive. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group

Re: [FRIAM] Adobe Alchemy

2008-11-20 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake Saul Caganoff circa 11/20/2008 04:01 PM: > Hmmm c/c++ into actionscript. > > Is this gold into lead or lead into gold? Prolly more like turkeys into chickens. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://tempusd

Re: [FRIAM] Airline fee

2008-11-21 Thread glen e. p. ropella
g CopyNo mouseover? -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsatt and robustness

2008-12-01 Thread glen e. p. ropella
is robust. E.g. a long sought after datum validating some old, accepted, but not yet validated theory. The problem is that this latter sense of robustness includes false memes that take hold and persist despite being proved false or overly simplistic. So a vigorously robust belief

[FRIAM] The Reasoning Club

2008-12-24 Thread glen e. p. ropella
I thought, perhaps the SfComplex might be interested: http://www.kent.ac.uk/secl/philosophy/jw/reasoning/club/ -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets

Re: [FRIAM] Poll: which scripting languages are available on your computer?

2008-12-25 Thread glen e. p. ropella
on > Ruby/irb > Javascript (i.e. a command-line version like Rhino) > Groovy > BeanShell/PNuts (java interpreters with nifty add on features) > .. suggestions? -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com

Re: [FRIAM] Poll: which scripting languages are available on your computer?

2008-12-25 Thread glen e. p. ropella
erent languages. I'd rather keep a rich tech stack than spend time rewriting everything from scratch just so I can have it in a particular language. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied C

Re: [FRIAM] Poll: which scripting languages are available on your computer?

2008-12-25 Thread glen e. p. ropella
fer to junk the old stuff and buy brand new stuff (usually made in China). The hip and trendy fads are great for preoccupying the teenager's (or politician's) mind; but for any serious work, one should consider as much historical context as possible in order to make wise decisions in the

[FRIAM] The impact of snark on reproducibility

2008-12-29 Thread glen e. p. ropella
something overly jargonal or complicated. Of course, most snarky (sarcastic, sardonic, or ironic) expositions are not purposeful attempts at obfuscation. ("Never ascribe malice where incompetence will suffice.") On the other hand, many are. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-bas

Re: [FRIAM] The impact of snark on reproducibility

2008-12-29 Thread glen e. p. ropella
hat when the Trickster is, himself, tricked, it may take some time for the realization to land. Not that I know anything about that, mind you ... I'm just yapping ... [grin] -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com

Re: [FRIAM] Poll: which agent-based model is most fundamental?

2008-12-31 Thread glen e. p. ropella
s will always assume some context. And the prominence of that (class of) pattern(s) will go away if that assumption changes. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv

Re: [FRIAM] Poll: which agent-based model is most fundamental?

2009-01-02 Thread glen e. p. ropella
ies (1-3) above, then come up with some others. You can also replace "useful" with "common".) I suspect when/if we got to a classification granularity of 5-9 (possibly falsely) distinct methods, we can begin to assert where each method is _most_ useful. And where a method i

Re: [FRIAM] Classification of ABM's

2009-01-05 Thread glen e. p. ropella
ontext dependent classification, we can delegate work to the drones we have at our disposal. (BTW, "drone" is a role, not type. Brilliant people can act as drones just by acting outside their field of expertise.) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com

Re: [FRIAM] Classification of ABM's

2009-01-05 Thread glen e. p. ropella
(primarily) of agents. (However one may define "agent".) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's Colleg

[FRIAM] what is math ... again (was Re: Fw: art and science)

2009-01-12 Thread glen e. p. ropella
es (like entrepreneurship, art, scientific speculation) vs. the more inferential/reasoned activities (like accounting, manufacturing, falsification), and those people proficient in one but not the other. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com ==

Re: [FRIAM] what is math ... again (was Re: Fw: art and science)

2009-01-12 Thread glen e. p. ropella
than concepts in math will fail because they are both part of the same thing. The concepts are Yin and the symbols are Yang. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listser

Re: [FRIAM] what is math ... again (was Re: Fw: art and science)

2009-01-13 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake Russ Abbott circa 12/01/09 07:58 PM: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, glen e. p. ropella < > g...@agent-based-modeling.com> wrote: >> I disagree. I think the emphasis on concepts is a peculiar form of >> anthropocentrism (or, at worst, narcissism ;-).

Re: [FRIAM] Art, Science & Vice-versa

2009-01-14 Thread glen e. p. ropella
ks loaded with some pretty weird Eddington-typewriter sort of text presumably analyzing (other people's) art. I don't understand any of it; but at least from a superficial level, it looks a _lot_ like what we see here and I wouldn't have it any other way! -- glen e. p. ropella

Re: [FRIAM] Slashdot | Canonical Close To $30M Critical Mass; Should Microsoft Worry?

2009-01-20 Thread glen e. p. ropella
on you choose is determined by what you intend to do with the machine. For myself, I tend to play around with my desktops a lot but leave my laptops alone. So, for my desktop, I choose Debian. For my laptops, I choose Ubuntu. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeli

[FRIAM] Mann's hockey stick

2009-01-23 Thread glen e. p. ropella
ng the methods? -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Mann's hockey stick

2009-01-26 Thread glen e. p. ropella
s) have representation in high impact journals with strong peer review. I'm sure there are sociologists examining such processes. If I knew what to ask for, I'd be asking for that research instead. [grin] Chip: Thanks for the specif

Re: [FRIAM] Mann's hockey stick

2009-01-27 Thread glen e. p. ropella
ct, I'd probably argue that bias (both personal and collective) in hiring is a good thing. It's probably good in all human activity, perhaps even science. But it's in science where we most often claim to be rational. In any case, I'd like to be able to discuss these topics in th

Re: [FRIAM] Homeostasis by Peer Review

2009-01-29 Thread glen e. p. ropella
on your past interests, more elastic where clusters of articles cover much of the same content, coefficients of friction were adjusted based on which region of rating space you were exploring at the time, colors (of the articles) change when your focus shifts from fact to speculation or physics to p

Re: [FRIAM] Homeostasis by Peer Review

2009-01-29 Thread glen e. p. ropella
actually _doing_ something?!? Umm ... ok ... perhaps I'm in the wrong place... [patting pockets, grabbing jacket, retreating from the room] ;-) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applie

Re: [FRIAM] Stevey's Blog Rants: Rhino on Rails

2009-02-16 Thread glen e. p. ropella
But we've seen that natural systems don't succumb as easily to solutions built with linearized methods, which is why "agile methods" are so popular these days. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com ==

Re: [FRIAM] Stevey's Blog Rants: Rhino on Rails

2009-02-16 Thread glen e. p. ropella
indicator for linear thinking is the degree of conviction to some assertion. [grin] E.g. if someone tells you that language ABC is the best language for XYZ, then they're most likely a (naive) linear thinker and prize abstraction over concreteness. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, ht

Re: [FRIAM] Stevey's Blog Rants: Rhino on Rails

2009-02-16 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake Prof David West circa 16/02/09 05:47 PM: > Thus spake glen e. p. ropella circa 16/02/09 16:02 PM > >> The next trick is to transition ... to more >> formal, repeatable, and communicable processes. > > There are no such things. Yes, there are. But you may no

Re: [FRIAM] Stevey's Blog Rants: Rhino on Rails

2009-02-16 Thread glen e. p. ropella
27;m trying to represent. _Whatever_ languages they happen to be. Why? Because the objective is to actually get the work done, not pontificate on or wring my hands in subservience to "What One Should Do" ... like some 10 commandments of the Software God. It sounds li

Re: [FRIAM] Obama sez: 1 year of higher education/career training.

2009-02-26 Thread glen e. p. ropella
dents @ $25 per student. http://tempusdictum.com/tdproducts.html -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lecture

Re: [FRIAM] Invitation to Conversation/Discussion/Debate

2009-04-01 Thread glen e. p. ropella
beer or positive freedoms). Like proprietary software, the costs and benefits exist, they are just in different places and require attention at different times. If the above discussion is irrelevant to what you intended, then pleas

Re: [FRIAM] The Unreasonable Reverence of The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in theNatural Sciences

2009-04-28 Thread glen e. p. ropella
we will be surprised, sit back, and wonder why we were so enamored with it before... and many of us will even poke fun of and deride those people who still find it useful. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com =

Re: [FRIAM] The Unreasonable Reverence of The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in theNatural Sciences

2009-04-28 Thread glen e. p. ropella
hen the network collapses to a single node and we freeze in order. But with the right balance of homo- and hetero-geneous attention, we can manipulate the universe in appreciable ways. At the end of the day, a good maxim is the ancient aphorism: "Know ten things, say nine." -- glen e. p

Re: [FRIAM] The unreasonable Effectiveness of ABMs in ComplexSystems

2009-04-28 Thread glen e. p. ropella
too vague to warrant comment. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] emergence, again

2009-04-29 Thread glen e. p. ropella
philosophical, linguistic, or computational phenomena attacked on the grounds that they conflict with one of the basic axioms of mathematics. But both assumptions are mistaken and the attack is groundless." -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com =

Re: [FRIAM] emergence, again

2009-04-29 Thread glen e. p. ropella
). And I believe it can be proven that the AFA means that every system of equations has a unique solution. (If we assume the foundation axiom instead, as in the "usual" math, that's not true.) But the AFA can be stated as: a set can contain itself as its only element, which is the

[FRIAM] linux phylogenetic tree software

2009-04-30 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Anyone know of a good linux/foss package for reading FASTA data files and rendering trees? -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe

[FRIAM] scaffolding, replacement, and adaptive simulation

2009-04-30 Thread glen e. p. ropella
gher level abstraction? I was thinking someone did something like this with TranSims at one point; but I can't find anything. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listser

Re: [FRIAM] linux phylogenetic tree software

2009-05-07 Thread glen e. p. ropella
t; http://atgc.lirmm.fr/phyml/ > > PhyML isn't strictly speaking open source, but it's free. > > To actually draw a picture, an easy to use package is FigTree > http://tree.bio.ed.ac.uk/software/figtree/ -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.

[FRIAM] Reasoning Defeasibly about Probabilities

2009-05-07 Thread glen e. p. ropella
sible reasoning (even ranting about syllogism is welcome ;-)? -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's Colleg

[FRIAM] when does evolutionary significant mutation occur?

2009-06-12 Thread glen e. p. ropella
d even if the same trait can be achieved with multiple mechanisms, we still say the individuals exhibit the _same_ trait? Thanks for any clues and don't ridicule me too much ... I'm sensitive. [grin] -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com ===

Re: [FRIAM] when does evolutionary significant mutation occur?

2009-06-15 Thread glen e. p. ropella
to explain why it would be incorrect are a) equivocations on the words "trait" or "possess", b) specifics about the _timing_ of evolutionary relevant mutation, or c) an assertion that crossover is the salient operator not mutation. > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 4:09 PM, gle

Re: [FRIAM] when does evolutionary significant mutation occur?

2009-06-15 Thread glen e. p. ropella
its the parents don't have. Hence, offspring must always get all their traits from their parents. And that implies (to me) that no new traits will ever arise. So, either the authors statement is too vague or wrong, or I am missing something fundamental. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095,

Re: [FRIAM] consciousness

2009-06-15 Thread glen e. p. ropella
rid of these two extremes. So, to answer your question as directly as possible, roboteers do NOT provide the robots with their "knowledge". The roboteers construct a machine, that's all. If there is any knowledge in a robot, it will remain a mystery to the roboteer until the robots are

[FRIAM] Foundations for ethics (was Re: (Subjective) experience)

2009-06-19 Thread glen e. p. ropella
unethical or immoral is guilty of not paying attention to, and acting in discordance to, the state of his own body. He who is ethical and moral pays close attention to, and acts according to, the state of his own body. He who is amoral ignores the state of his body.

Re: [FRIAM] Direct conversation

2009-06-22 Thread glen e. p. ropella
basic value to be as clear as possible as much as > possible and to be clear that one is not being clear when that is the > case. Having written that I can think of situations (e.g., negotiations) > when a dollop of ambiguity helps. But I think that's a different situation. -- gl

Re: [FRIAM] Direct conversation

2009-06-22 Thread glen e. p. ropella
le as much as possible. Feynman famously said "Science is >what we have learned about how not to fool ourselves about the way the world >is. " Are you really objecting to that as a goal? (It certainly won't work >as a software development strategy!) I would have thought that thi

Re: [FRIAM] Direct conversation

2009-06-23 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake Steve Smith circa 06/22/2009 08:57 PM: > glen e. p. ropella uttered/spake/emitted/gurgitated: >> A mandated method to be clear as possible as much as possible would be >> just as effective and efficient as a mandate to be as vague as possible >> as much as poss

Re: [FRIAM] Direct conversation

2009-06-23 Thread glen e. p. ropella
t always end up equivocating on the word "best"!) So, I'd have the same criticism if someone fixated on the conviction that riddles are the only or best way to communicate. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com =

[FRIAM] Teleology of Symbol Grounding (was Re: Direct conversation)

2009-06-24 Thread glen e. p. ropella
are talking about the objective grounding of the symbols in that context, i.e. reality or truth, which is only approachable through transpersonal interpretation. That's my $0.02 anyway. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com ==

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and explanation

2009-07-07 Thread glen e. p. ropella
o manipulate them into thinking the way you want them to be thinking. Hence, I regard "emergence" as a purely manipulative term... a bit of rhetorical trickery intended to hypnotize the audience. Like all buzzwords, it's useful in some circumstances. So, it's not futile a

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and explanation

2009-07-07 Thread glen e. p. ropella
organization instead of using the magical term "emergence"? -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's Colle

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and explanation

2009-07-08 Thread glen e. p. ropella
ent properties. Honestly, I can't think of any. > -Original Message- >> From: "glen e. p. ropella" >> >> [...] >> >> But, as Yudkowsky said in that post that Jochen forwarded, isn't >> this true of _everything_? Can you name an

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and explanation

2009-07-09 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake russell standish circa 07/08/2009 05:33 PM: > On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:16:55AM -0700, glen e. p. ropella wrote: >> Well, since my post consisted of questions, I could hardly be wrong. ;-) >> >> The question was: Is there any identifiable property of a system that

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and explanation

2009-07-09 Thread glen e. p. ropella
a trivial (but not entirely useless) word except in the sense of emergency: "A serious situation or occurrence that happens unexpectedly and demands immediate action", which boils down to "poorly understood" or, at least,

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and explanation

2009-07-09 Thread glen e. p. ropella
x27;t be applied to the component, only to the system containing the component, which is true in all non-trivial situations), then the characteristics are still "emergent", even though we reasonably and abstractly reduce the

Re: [FRIAM] Analytic philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2009-07-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
nce those breakthroughs come, they congeal into a mathematics that is then adopted by an army consisting of a different, more fastidious, type of philosopher. The trail blazers move on to the next wild frontier while the "settlers" move in and bring mind-numbing order to the regi

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and explanation

2009-07-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
but unless it were about concrete things, particular systems, particular methods for measuring those systems, then I don't think its of much use. If you chose a family of systems (perhaps your statics example of triangular trusses) and a family of measures (perhaps robustness to harmonic oscill

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence and explanation

2009-07-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
tics (because of the way they're measured). But if nonlinear == emergent, then what's the point of the less well-defined term "emergent"? -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] Analytic philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2009-07-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
the world. OK. That last paragraph proves that I should shut up for awhile. [grin] -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

[FRIAM] Emergent consensus?

2009-07-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
n't tend to keep track of where I learned something, who said it, why they said it, where it's successful and where it fails, etc., I'm very fragile to changes in context. It's funny. I'll say almost the exact

Re: [FRIAM] Analytic philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2009-07-15 Thread glen e. p. ropella
omplex, is to define/test methods for engaging in constructive philosophy. For example, a mandate might be that all these discussions must result in an artifact, be it a wiki page, a simulation, or just an influence graph showing, say, how Zeno contributed to

Re: [FRIAM] Information request/Amazon EC2

2009-08-20 Thread glen e. p. ropella
lems; but without the ability to replicate the entire toolchain all the way down through the OS, our transition from cluster to cloud would have to wait for a scientific and development punctuation point... which almost never happens. ;-) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-mod

Re: [FRIAM] Agents, stocks, and flows

2009-08-28 Thread glen e. p. ropella
not a diff eq system? -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs

2009-09-04 Thread glen e. p. ropella
s are rude or obnoxious because the internet consists of simple, easily composed things that no matter what organization one chooses for her construct, it will violate some other person's standard. That also leads to a much larger number of "should" statements... "On

Re: [FRIAM] Fascism and ettiquette

2009-09-04 Thread glen e. p. ropella
ple, laws, corporations, etc.) within. It has something to do with precedent (static treatment of a dynamic system), the need to treat every circumstance with a rule (hyper generalization), and the tendency to avoid smearing blame (aka reductive causality). But I'm not skill

Re: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs

2009-09-04 Thread glen e. p. ropella
pedia entry on Haskell. [grin] Or, how to cross-correlate forums to find out whether a blogger is using another identity to comment on his own blog entries. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Ap

Re: [FRIAM] emergence

2009-09-07 Thread glen e. p. ropella
/twilight zone, where it > appears to be right now. Statistical and/or structural pattern > recognition <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_recognition> seem to > be good places to start. (See also descriptive statistics) > <http://en.wiki

Re: [FRIAM] emergence

2009-09-07 Thread glen e. p. ropella
eve that emergence is a > perception that is dissolved by understanding. When we read the EMERGENCE > book together, we will find that there are many smart people on both sides > of that argument, but that complexity scientists, on the whole, tend to > share the view that emergence is not a

[FRIAM] word soup (was Re: emergence)

2009-09-07 Thread glen e. p. ropella
OK. I'll stop. I promise. Waiting for my simulation to finish has placed me in a weird state and I've run out of comments to make on Facebook. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com

Re: [FRIAM] I'm looking for a word

2009-09-07 Thread glen e. p. ropella
t "undecidable"? Or perhaps "semidecidable"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decidability_(logic) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meet

Re: [FRIAM] I'm looking for a word

2009-09-07 Thread glen e. p. ropella
t is very close. In the most extreme, an undecidable sentence is proven undecidable if its effective computation will never halt, right? -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group list

[FRIAM] concrete study (was Re: Emergence Seminar--British Emergence)

2009-09-15 Thread glen e. p. ropella
t; commonality among "emergent" phenomena. (That's why I like the >>> notion of level of abstraction as representative of emergence.) >> >> This is also, as we will see, the position of William Wimsatt, I >> think. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http:/

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Re: Emergence Seminar--British Emergence

2009-09-15 Thread glen e. p. ropella
difficulty > representing with any fidelity the opinion with which they disagree. > > > that I was characterizing the discussion as a whole, not the > contributions of any one of us. In short, we all should be mad at > me, not any one of us. Clear as mud, right. I apologize

[FRIAM] comm. (was Re: FW: Re: Emergence Seminar--British Emergence)

2009-09-15 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake Marcus G. Daniels circa 09-09-15 10:36 AM: > glen e. p. ropella wrote: >> 2) reading and responding to a post's gestalt, rather than some >> fractioned >> piece of it, > > If the parts of the message are wrong or unclear, then doubt should be > c

Re: [FRIAM] comm. (was Re: FW: Re: Emergence Seminar--British Emergence)

2009-09-15 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Good intentions may abound with no impact on the goodness of the actual outcome. Besides, if our impoverished models of writers are so bad, how could we come to the conclusion that a writer encouraging the reader to model her is probably up to no good? ;-) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095

Re: [FRIAM] comm. (was Re: FW: Re: Emergence Seminar--British Emergence)

2009-09-15 Thread glen e. p. ropella
e poking the established view at exactly the weak point. Hm. Thanks! We were hoping the attack was a little less visible. Thanks for making a bunch of noise and alerting the enemy to our approach. Whose side are you on, anyway?!?! [grin] -- glen

Re: [FRIAM] comm.

2009-09-15 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake Marcus G. Daniels circa 09-09-15 03:20 PM: > glen e. p. ropella wrote: >> Can you really distinguish between communication, entertainment, and >> manipulation? > > I can recognize that Penn Jillette excels at all three, but I also > recognize he won't ge

Re: [FRIAM] comm.

2009-09-15 Thread glen e. p. ropella
d one. If you don't, then don't. That's it. There's no more to it. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at

Re: [FRIAM] comm. (was Re: FW: Re:Emergence Seminar--BritishEmergence)

2009-09-16 Thread glen e. p. ropella
t will help the new lab reproduce the result. Again, as long as the simpler model is adequate for the use, you use it. If it's not, you extend it. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Appl

Re: [FRIAM] comm. (was Re: FW: Re:Emergence Seminar--BritishEmergence)

2009-09-16 Thread glen e. p. ropella
ats that the uncertainty in the extended model is unbounded and your model is totally invalid ("invalid" in simulation jargon or "unsound" in logic/philosophy jargon). -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com

Re: [FRIAM] comm.

2009-09-16 Thread glen e. p. ropella
y map your lexicon to others' is a great way of ensuring you don't fall into the trap of "consensus reality" and justificationism. Really, it's 6 to one 1/2 a dozen to the other. Both are untrustworthy and that's why the success of science is based on _behavior_ not

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