Well, you know how I feel. :) But the others don't so...
I believe the most crucial and missing approach is to put resources into
making ready-made applications that work on mod_perl rather than core
mod_perl itself. This is also a problem on Linux, but that's another story.
A quantity of appl
. I'm sure that you realize
> > the potential of mod_perl.
> >
> > IMHO of course... I'm just a programmer, so if you ask about my business
> > plan, I tell: you find a good business shark and push it forward, we will
> > do the coding. Easy huh, but that's what we
that it will happen all at once in this year without a lot of concerted
effort from the mod_perl community to open source their applications that
run on top of mod_perl rather than keeping them all closed source.
At 10:21 PM 4/27/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Fri, 27 Apr
At 09:06 AM 4/28/01 -0400, barries wrote:
> > But then this gets into the Collabnet SourceXChange model which Collabnet
> > just shut down due to lack of capability of making money (I guess). So
> I am
> > not sure if this would bode well for this type of model on mod_perl.
>
>Not sure either, e
At 09:14 AM 4/28/01 +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>
> > As I think I mentioned, it's great that the people like you on this list
> > have a passion for delivering cool software.
> >
>[snipped]
> >
> >
I would like to restate that while I think these engines are cool and
useful, that they are not the things that bring the masses to your
platform. This was the point I was making. I am not naysaying projects
like Enhydra, but just stated that they are not as directly useful for
bringing the m
At 03:24 PM 4/30/01 -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Matt Sergeant wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
> >
> > > Yes precisely. It used to be that you could only die() with a
> string, but
> > > 5. gave us die() with a reference to an object and at tha
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ell as comments on the project.
>
>Does it belong on CPAN and what would a good namespace be if so? I've kept
>the current naming similar to Axkit with, DnsZone.pm, Apache::DnsZone.pm
>and Apache::DnsZone::, is that fine?
>
>that's all for now,
>
>--
>Thoma
At 09:19 PM 5/15/01 -0500, Jimi Thompson wrote:
>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Gunther Birznieks
>To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Jimi Thompson
>
>No, we don't have a design yet as far I know. I am not really organizing
>it. I just thought I would post quickly
t;instead of just doing this:
>
>print <
>
> foo
> bar
>
>
>EOF
>
>Seems like the same amount of typing, it's easier (for me anyway) to read
>and understand, and faster. What am I missing?
>
>
>Thanks,
>Larry Leszczynski
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There has been some discussion on the list lately about generating widgets
ala CGI.pm, HTML::StickyWidgets etc...
The thing is that these products or plug-ins are very HTML oriented. The
widget is defined as an HTML widget like a textfield or checkbox or
dropdown or what-have-you.
What I am r
At 10:13 AM 5/22/2001 +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote:
>On Tue, 22 May 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have a widget framework like this? I think the closest I found
> > to widget abstraction is SmartWorker, but it is not abstract in quite the
> > way tha
At 02:26 PM 5/22/2001 -0400, kyle dawkins wrote:
>On Tue, 22 May 2001 06:25, Matt Sergeant wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 May 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> > > I want/need a *Perl* solution!
> >
> > Well if you can pay for it... (still unemployed here and getting po
At 08:54 PM 5/23/2001 +1000, Cees Hek wrote:
>On Tue, 22 May 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>
>
>This sounds very useful and powerful. I've been looking for a project to
>help out with, and this one sounds interesting to me. Let me know if you
>want some help devel
At 08:50 PM 5/23/01 -0400, Adi Fairbank wrote:
>Stephen,
>
>I read your proposal and I like it a lot. I will help filling out the
>HTML::Widget::HTML* space (in your package structure suggestion).
>
>However, I like Gunther's suggestion for a namespace of Widget:: better than
>HTML::Widget::, bec
Related to the previous discussion of closures vs object interface (eg
param) for getting CGI form data into the widgets:
While I think that it is clever to allow an interface to change where the
parameters come from, I think in practice there are different things to
expect. eg how to deal wit
At 10:22 AM 5/24/2001 -0700, Paul Lindner wrote:
>On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:59:36AM -0400, Chip Turner wrote:
> > darren chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > The nice thing about closures is they could hide any interface at all
> > behind them; all that is required is that the function
>other reasons.. So, we were exploring the possibilities..
>
>Niral
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At 03:06 PM 5/25/01 -0400, Agoston, Rich wrote:
>Will there be other conferences later in the year that will offer these
>types of mod perl tutorials?? Thanks.
>
>
> http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2001/pub/10/mod_perl_tutorials.ht
>ml
My belief (but Stas may be able to confirm or den
At 01:21 PM 5/26/01 -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
>Stas Bekman writes:
>
>I'd just like to remind folks that the course-notes are not the only
>reason to attend the tutorial. The other is the face-to-face
>information exchange, which has a vastly higher bandwidth than email.
>I learned more pra
I read this post a few times.
At 03:44 PM 5/24/01 -0400, David Harris wrote:
>[[ This is a resend.. did some cutting and pasting of code into telnet
>windows that messed it up through shell expansion. My bad. ]]
>
>I have a couple modules that might be the start of what you are calling a
>Widget
I think this post is quite apt.
At 02:12 AM 5/25/01 -0400, Chip Turner wrote:
>Gunther Birznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > While I think that it is clever to allow an interface to change where
> > the parameters come from, I think in practice there are different
At 02:16 AM 5/25/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
>Jay,
>
>I think that pretty much describes what I have in mind ...
>plus a few other features.
>
>Hopefully within a week or two (based on demands of other *paying* jobs),
>I will have a working distribution with most of the bare-bones plumbing in
At 02:31 AM 5/25/01 -0400, Chip Turner wrote:
>Gunther Birznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > However, I think it is reasonable to make the interface to support a
> > data source for the widgets flexible and object based to make it easy
> > for someone to write
>WidgetState class (and using some additional,
>not-yet-implemented arguments
>to Widget->controller()).
I think it would be better as a Widget::State:: rather than the
other way around. From the way you describe it, this is really an interface
to getting state information that sh
At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
> >
> >I don't understand the Widget::Controller. Can you say more about this?
> >
> >Also will we require XML to configure? Or is this also an optional feature
> >that you more or less want for yourself but others can choose to not use?
> >
>
>Hi,
At 10:49 AM 5/28/01 -0500, James G Smith wrote:
>Gunther Birznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >At 02:31 AM 5/25/01 -0400, Chip Turner wrote:
> >>Gunther Birznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> > However, I think it is reasonable to mak
At 05:52 PM 5/28/01 -0400, you wrote:
> > Let's focus a bit.
> Specifically on requirements more than implementation - *GOOD*
I think you misread my intention. I think the requirements are simple and
fairly clear except for some interesting enhancements people (includign
yourself) propose o
At 10:04 AM 5/29/01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Tue, 29 May 2001, Stephen Adkins wrote:
>
> > Right. I have many more requirements I eventually want to support
> > (such as internationalization). The trick is making the design such
> > that it works in the simple case for simple things, w
At 10:08 AM 5/29/01 -0400, Jay Lawrence wrote:
>My $0.02 on XML config files. Although they may be attractive to some,
>personally, I don't like them.
I personally do like them, but I find XML to be heavy weight for parsing in
mod_cgi. And many of my users are on normal cheap ISPs that would not
At 11:02 AM 5/29/01 -0400, Robert Landrum wrote:
>At 9:53 PM +0800 5/29/01, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>>At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
>>> >
>>>>I don't understand the Widget::Controller. Can you say more about this?
>>>>
>
At 10:27 AM 5/29/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
>At 09:49 PM 5/29/2001 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> >At 12:15 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Development of a straw-man set of Perl Widget Library core classes is
> >>go
At 10:23 AM 5/29/01 -0500, James G Smith wrote:
>Gunther Birznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >At 12:15 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
> >>The rendering of this widget as HTML requires at least the following
> >>
> >>* config information (
At 05:14 PM 5/29/01 -0500, James G Smith wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Where is this language value coming from? The widget's container. You only
>care about English? Then set it to "EN-US" and forget it.
>[snip]
> >Implementation strategies can be as simple as:
> >
> >
> >sub label {
> >
>
At 12:31 PM 5/29/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
>At 09:53 PM 5/29/2001 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> >At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
>...
> >>$widget = $wc->widget("first_name");
> >>print "First Name: ", $widget
At 09:14 PM 5/31/01 +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote:
> > At 12:31 PM 5/29/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
> > >At 09:53 PM 5/29/2001 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> > > >At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
> > >...
>[...]
> > >The call
At 03:36 PM 5/31/01 -0400, Robert Landrum wrote:
>At 10:51 PM +0800 5/31/01, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>>At 11:02 AM 5/29/01 -0400, Robert Landrum wrote:
>>>At 9:53 PM +0800 5/29/01, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>>>>At 05:17 PM 5/28/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
>
At 04:21 PM 5/31/01 -0700, brian moseley wrote:
>On Thu, 31 May 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>
> > Let's put it this way, I have actually used widgets for
> > the last 6 months in real world applications using JSPs
> > and widget libraries in Java. I can't tel
At 04:28 PM 5/31/01 -0700, brian moseley wrote:
>On Thu, 31 May 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>
> > I think it can be supported through a custom subclass of
> > what you have been describing as a container/controller
> > for the widgets. I think if it is done at th
At 03:50 AM 6/1/01 +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote:
> > At 09:14 PM 5/31/01 +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote:
> > > > At 12:31 PM 5/29/01 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
> > > > >At 09:53 PM 5/29/2001 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> > > > >
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At 02:26 PM 6/7/2001 +1000, Steve Smith wrote:
> > HTML::Embperl
>
>For me, this has one major win over the other toolkits: auto form
>population from a hash. The online mortgage application system I
>wrote has about 1,800 form fields, which have to be populated with
>data from a database. By ma
At 08:25 PM 6/8/2001 +0200, Gerald Richter wrote:
> > At 02:26 PM 6/7/2001 +1000, Steve Smith wrote:
> > > > HTML::Embperl
> > >
> > >For me, this has one major win over the other toolkits: auto form
> > >population from a hash. The online mortgage application system I
> > >wrote has about 1,80
At 08:59 AM 6/8/2001 -0500, will trillich wrote:
>On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 06:52:14PM +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> > At 02:26 PM 6/7/2001 +1000, Steve Smith wrote:
> > > > HTML::Embperl
> > >
> > >For me, this has one major win over the other toolkits
ng Guidelines.' It is very helpful for anyone dealing with these issues.
>But anyway, I want to run my IIS server on a single process so I can follow
>the documentation. Does anyone out there know how to do that?
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Scott Purcell
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>}
>
>
>I wanted to print out for each SSN corresponding SSN numbers but it's just
>not working!!! If this is feasible in Perl I'd appreciate if someone could
>help.
>
>
>Thanks
>I.S
>
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, unfortunately no one has
come up to be able to sponsor the cost for the T-Shirts. So I figure I
would raise the question again in case someone has a company that would be
willing to corporate sponsor such a thing.
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At 02:29 PM 6/18/2001 +0800, Trevor Phillips wrote:
>Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> > >I suppose I could do this now by having a front-end proxy, and mini-Apache
> > >configs for each "group" I want, but that seems to be going too far
> (at this
> > >stag
ath/to/apache/dir/httpd -X
>
>I have been through my install trying to execute a httpd at the command
>line, but I am making no connection.
>
>Could someone please explain a litle more in detail what I should do on a NT
>system and what the httpd is (exe?);
>
>Thanks
>
>S
go into the
> design.
> >
> > Jimi
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Gunther Birznieks
> > To: mod_perl list
> > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 10:17 AM
> > Subject: mod_perl bof Oreilly Conference TShirts
> >
> >
I didn't get any reply yet
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At 02:07 PM 6/29/2001 -0500, Christopher L. Everett wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I've been running apache+mod_perl servers with apache+mod_ssl
>front-ends, and been quite happy with this type of setup for
>quite some time.
>
>Now I need to use SSL certificates for authenticating users
>of an online datab
:-) Sadly most people *still* see Perl on the web as
>CGI, as printing out your HTML from code, etc. It needs more articles in
>the right places to fix that sort of misconception.
>
>Matt.
This is really off topic.
Anyway, so what are the right places for those articles? Microsoft Systems
At 04:46 PM 7/5/2001 -0500, Purcell, Scott wrote:
>Hello,
>NT question.
>I believe that Apache 2 is out for NT, and was wondering if apache 2 works
>with mod_perl? I am running Apache 1.3.20 and mod_perl 1.25_01-dev. Can or
>should we start converting to Apache 2?
>
>Just curous about some time f
or
a flat rate. :)
>
>Jimi
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>>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Gunther Birznieks
>>To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Matt Sergeant ;
>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Joachim Zobel
>>Cc: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL P
w/:standard/;
>my $q = CGI->new;
>print $q->header();
>print $q->start_html("hello");
>foreach (my $i=1; $i<5; $i++) {
> my $tmp = int(rand(1000)+1);
> print "$tmp is tmp\n";
>}
>
>
>Scott Purcell
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At 06:16 PM 7/7/2001 -0700, brian moseley wrote:
>On 7 Jul 2001, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>
> > Yes. Writing a templating system in Perl is trivial.
> > Writing a *useful* templating system in Perl is
> > demonstratably hard.
>
>unless you keep application features in a separate layer
>from the
At 03:44 PM 7/15/2001 +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote:
>Looks like Camelot, the organisers of ApacheCon (and other conferences,
>such as XML Dev Con - a conference I've spoken at a number of times), are
>going out of business. Those of you who know the employees at Camelot will
Odd, I got the letter f
At 01:19 PM 7/14/2001 -0400, Geoffrey Young wrote:
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Ken Williams
> >To: modperl
> >Sent: 7/14/01 11:48 AM
> >Subject: BOF?
> >
> >Yo,
> >
> >I just noticed that there's no mod_perl BOF listed at
> > http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2001/pub/10/bofs.html
At 12:10 AM 7/16/2001 -0500, James G Smith wrote:
>Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, brian moseley wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, Ken Williams wrote:
> >>
> >> > I just noticed that there's no mod_perl BOF listed at
> >> > http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs
At 11:31 AM 7/16/2001 -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:
>At 10:46 AM 07/16/01 -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> >Are there any requests other than price for next year? What would you
> >like to see? What could you do without?
>
>Well, this is more along the "price" issue that you don't want to hear abo
At 10:46 AM 7/16/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>Matt Sergeant writes:
> > I doubt it's the last one we'll see fall... I suspect TPC will be a
> > shadow of its former self... :(
>
>for four years arguing that it should be cheaper. If you feel that
>there'd be more attendees at a lower price, then I sugg
a common error in my log:
>
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>&Apache::ROOTwww_2emy_2ddomain_2ecom::cgi_2dbin::pads::welcome_2epl::ReadPar
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>
>
>Any info would be appreciated!
>
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> --Anonymous
>
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> --Anonymous
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ce") should be redone in better
> > >detail to explain forwarding SSL to the back-end server.
> > >
> > > Issac
> > >
> > >Internet is a wonderful mechanism for making a fool of
> > >yourself in front of a very large audience.
> > > --
At 01:19 AM 7/26/2001 +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote:
[snipped]
>I see what you mean. I'm not dealing with client certs (yet), and I'm
>thinking that when the system that I'm testing now goes production, it'll be
>a front-end SSL, back-end non-SSL sorta deal... But that won't work for now
>due to
At 02:44 PM 8/1/2001 -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
>On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>
> > When you've had your fill of wrestling over mySQL vs PostGres and stored
> > procs versus inline SQL (I know I have long ago)
> >
> > You guys s
seems a waste to redefine all the
>subroutines and variables again. But I do need it to reinitialize $dbh
>when C is called.
>
>What should I do?
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At 07:16 PM 8/1/2001 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote:
> > I have a CGI application where I do:
> >
> > require 'db.pl';
> >
> > where db.pl defines some functions and variables related to connecting to
> > the database, and then executes C<$dbh = DBI->connect(...)>.
>
>
>
> > I can get around this by
At 07:18 PM 8/1/2001 -0700, Nick Tonkin wrote:
>On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Philip Mak wrote:
>
> > I have a CGI application where I do:
> >
> > require 'db.pl';
> >
> > where db.pl defines some functions and variables related to connecting to
> > the database, and then executes C<$dbh = DBI->connect(...
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emember, the E in
>perl is for "Eclectic." :-)
>
>Idioms are there for a reason: They do well in shorthand a required task.
>Even if there are other, longer ways to do the same thing. TIMTOWTDI. The
>way I "ought to" program is in the way that makes perfect sense when one
>understands all of the pieces, and document the hell out of it so that
>people behind me who don't understand can at least follow the requirements
>list. ESPECIALLY when the person behind me is me, 6 months later.
>
>
>
>L8r,
>Rob
>
>#!/usr/bin/perl -w
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with real multi-user locking
with the session id as a mere key to that database.
I guess it just depends on your scenario. I would be curious to hear about
some real world (as opposed to academic) scenarios about it being an issue.
Later,
Gunther
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At 12:10 PM 8/11/2001 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote:
>Hi,
>
>At 04:42 PM 8/11/2001 +0200, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote:
> >At 09:26 AM 8/11/01 -0500, Jim Smith wrote:
> >>If we want better QA, I'd propose requiring approval from someone on that
> >>list before a module is put anywhere in the heirarchy
s it really just personal prefence?
> >
>
>This is rather off topic for mod_perl and should (imho) belong on a perl
>list instead. Can I request any followups be taken to private mail or a
>more suitable list?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave
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>thanks. Rod
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Hey guys..MASSIVELY OFF TOPIC!! :( :( :(
At 12:24 AM 10/3/2001 -0400, Michael Bacarella wrote:
> > I've had about two years of experience with perl, and one year of
> > experience with mod_perl and MySQL.
> >
> > I've been doing contract programming jobs for people and charged by the
> > hour
y our own mod_perl
> > regular contributer Perrin Harkins.
> >
> > http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/10/17/etoys.html
> >
>
>Yup, this is an excellent read. Thanks Perrin.
>
>Greg
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that many organizations which will allow such a
heterogeneous environment unless a vendor installs it as a turnkey solution
and is willing to deal with all the support.
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At 08:46 PM 10/23/2001, Rob Nagler wrote:
> > is easier and more standardized, and well documented. But I "feel" like
> > coding front-end web applications is much easier in Perl where the workflow
> > bits change all the time. For this, I like using SOAP on the backend Java
> > server and SOAP on
At 09:45 PM 10/23/2001, Perrin Harkins wrote:
>Matt Sergeant wrote:
>
>>OK, so what are we missing?
>
>
>Based on the comments I've seen here over the years, and some on Slashdot,
>the thing that seems to worry people the most is the lack of an obvious
>message queue API in Perl. I've seen plen
At 10:36 PM 10/23/2001, Leon Brocard wrote:
>Perrin Harkins sent the following bits through the ether:
>
> > Perhaps a port of JMS is in order.
>
>Interestingly, I've been thinking along the same lines. Spread
>(http://www.spread.org/) can be used for the publish/subscribe
>messaging domain but qu
At 03:38 AM 10/24/2001, Stephen Adkins wrote:
>At 02:28 PM 10/23/2001 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote:
> >Stephen Adkins wrote:
> >
> >> If no one suggests an appropriate list, I propose starting a "p2ee" group
> >
> >
> >Can I just say that P2EE is a horrible, horrible name? It includes the
> >Java
rl to be resold and reintegrated into another IT
infrastructure which would make VCs happy (ie they would think more about
being able to fund projects based on mod_perl if they know they could
always resell the IP).
Thanks,
Gunther
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One important thing
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So basically if you want to add your feedback, go there! It's already done
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At 08:36 AM 10/29/2001, Medi Montaseri wrote:
>Similarly, this concept of
At 01:34 AM 11/23/2001, Mark Maunder wrote:
>Matt Sergeant wrote:
>
> > Step three: Once you've given them 90 days after date of invoice, get a
> > solicitor (not a barrister) to draft a threatening letter. It'll cost you
> > about $100. I'm afraid you'll have to give them another 30 days at this
C'mon guys remember to add OT to your off topic messages! It's not that hard.
:)
At 05:14 PM 10/10/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'd like to know where I can get paid more than AU$10/hour (US$4.90 to US$5
>per hour) for my mod_perl programming...
>
>You guys in America get $100US per hour?! My
nds a null byte every second or 2. Anyone using something
>like this successfully? Any potential problems from sending a null byte to a
>client?
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At 11:13 PM 10/16/01, Dominique Quatravaux wrote:
> > also does modperl support object oriented programming?
>
> Well yes it does indeed (see any good book on Perl, such as
>«advanced Perl programming» from O'Reilly).
>
> As for the remaining of the question, I've been wondering for myself if
At 01:28 PM 10/17/01, Ilya Martynov wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:07:47 -0500 (CDT), Dave Rolsky
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>DR> On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> >> I would venture to say that some of the mod_perl-only
At 10:19 PM 12/22/2001, DeWitt Clinton wrote:
>On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 06:11:33AM -0800, brian moseley wrote:
>
> > doesn't it seem like there should be a way to denote object
> > data as transient so that it doesn't get serialized by
> > Storable, etc?
>
>I'd love that as well. For example, when
At 10:55 PM 12/22/2001, brian moseley wrote:
>Apache::Singleton::Server got me thinking about Cache::Cache
>and locking again. if i'm going to have a server-global
>object, i am going to need to protect against multiple
>processes updating it simultaneously, right?
>
>we've already talked about t
zation needs to be equally flexible I suspect. Of course, this
brings us back to the discussion of what a Perl bean would be like and how
different it should be from Java.
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