Kevin Deegan wrote:
No dave you are an unbeliever in God's word
You are not of God. You will not enter in because of UNBELIEF.
DAVEH: Until I heard Steve Brown's broadcast, I believed Paul wrote
Hebrews. Now some TTers are in agreement with SB and are suggesting
the headers may be err
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVEH: Whether or not the author is a JW (or whether
the site is JW related), is the material he offered correct, Kevin? IF
it is correct, would that not suggest the Bible is not as inerrant as
some TTers have professed? IF his information is not correct, how do
y
Kevin Deegan wrote:
The church is the way the truth, you roMAN catHOLICS sound like
Mormons!
DAVEH: What are you trying to do, Kevin.make the RCC folks feel
bad!?!?!?! :-\
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From:
Graham Budd
woops!!
--
~~~
Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote:
How do you interpret the scriptures I cited?
DAVEH: Just like you do, except I'm viewing it from the other side of
the fence, Kevin. And guess who I see when I peer over it.
Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: Thank you for pointing th
Kevin,
No, I am not "churches of Christ," although I did
grow up in that denomination.
I did not know that they are the one's who
sponsored this translation, however. Thanks, I've learned some new
here.
Bill
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From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROT
NCV is it not the Church of Christ heretical bible?
Water dog Bible:
Romans 6:3-4, NCV3 Did you forget that all of us became part of Christ when we were baptized? We shared his death in our baptism.4 When we were baptized, we were buried with Christ and shared his death. So, just as Christ was rais
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Show me one error.
DAVEH: Hm...have you been reading what Blaine posted, Kevin?
Read to the bottom of this post. You have replied to it several times
now, and it remains pretty much as Blaine posted it. The material
Blaine quoted suggested there are quit
DAVEH: Whether or not the author is a JW (or whether the site is JW related), is the material he offered correct, Kevin? IF it is correct, would that not suggest the Bible is not as inerrant as some TTers have professed? IF his information is not correct, how do you explain it?
Dave below fin
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVEH: And then he specifically adds Jesus Christ to
his comment as a separate entity. Why would he do that if he weren't
pointing out their differences despite their singleness of purpose?
The scripture says ONE God in the chapter a number of times I
must have miss
Are you Church of Christ?
That is who put out the NCV"Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Kevin, as to your question. I do not know. I seldom use this version. I just happen to really like this passage, the way the New Century Version translates it. As for study, I usually prefer the New Ki
Show me one error.Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
I already answered this see other postDAVEH: Really??? Is your below comment the post you are referring to..
Perhaps you should take a second look. take your own advice.
or have you converted to the Jehovah's Witnesses?
D
No dave you are an unbeliever in God's word
You are not of God. You will not enter in because of UNBELIEF.
You have the spirit of error.
You do not trust Gods word
For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
God's word says your unbelief amounts t
Hi Kevin, as to your question. I do not know. I
seldom use this version. I just happen to really like this passage, the way the
New Century Version translates it. As for study, I usually prefer the New King
James Version.
Thanks for asking,
Bill
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K
How do you interpret the scriptures I cited?Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: Thank you for pointing that out, Kevin. QuestionWhy do you think God let those errant chapter headings be placed in his presumably inerrant work to mislead folks?
He put it there for Folks like you
Thanks David
No, I don't have any illusions here. If you are
persuaded by anything I say, you will know who has been whispering in your
ear.
Again, Thanks,
Bill
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From:
Dave
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 10:44
PM
Subjec
NCV is that one of those gender nuetral Feminized bibles?
God is gender biased, lets fix it. LOL
http://www.cbmw.org/resources/articles/genderneutral.php"Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Let everyone see that you are gentle and kind. The Lord is coming soon. Do not worry about anythin
Kevin says, "This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them
sharply, that they may be sound in the
faith."
I say: Kevin, I agree with you on this one. In
fact, this is precisely what I did to you earlier today. Is that why you
continue in the soundness of your faith?
Kevin says, "For there
The church is the way the truth, you roMAN catHOLICS sound like Mormons!Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Graham Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>woops!! sent this accidentally...not finished, so will, with yourindulgence, carry on...In other words, what we think we bring by ourselves to the Bibl
Wm. Taylor wrote:
Hi David,
I am not so foolish as to think that
I can dissuade and then persuade with only a couple of short hellos;
DAVEH: Ahhh.It is nice to chat with a fellow with some common
sense! I guess the question is whether you feel compelled to try to
Here is a good one bill
Titus 1 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, w
Kevin Deegan wrote:
I already answered this see other post
DAVEH: Really??? Is your below comment the post you are referring
to..
Perhaps you should take a second look. take your own advice.
or have you converted to the Jehovah's Witnesses?
Do you visit Jehovah Witness sites regul
Hang in there, Kevin. This is a forum for the
discussion of "religion" too. Like or not, heresy falls under that heading.
Bill
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From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 10:30
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] [CHRI
Which books in the OT?
That is an easy one!
The Jews were the custodians of God's word Romans 3;2
We know what the Jewish cannon contained. It included NO Apocryphal books.
MT 23;35 Jesus said "That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto
Amen Judy
JJ, Where do you draw the line? UNITY with a homosexual church OK?Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: "Jensen, John T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[jj] My question wasn't really just asking for information. It was, ofcourse, a leading question: how do we preserve unity if we disagree?jt
This is turning into heretic talk!Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: "Jensen, John T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The most interesting question to me is how you, as a Protestant, know:
- what is Scripture (i.e. which writings are Scripture and which not)
- why it is Scripture (i.e. why
I am sorry, that I do not fit your little Butter Cup christianity. That is right, I forgot, we are supposed to "prophesy SMOOTH things" I do not want to work thru the things that divide us. I am interested in staying divided heretics on one side christians on the other. Which side are you? The bibl
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVEH: Were you thinking about TTers when you wrote
this, Judy?!?!?!? ;-)
God wrote it DaveH!
DAVEH: God may have been the author, but Judy posted it.
Read it yourself maybe he was thinking of TTers, especially you
unbelievers!
DAVEH: Ahh Kevin.j
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVEH: Thank you for pointing that out, Kevin.
QuestionWhy do you think God let those errant chapter headings be
placed in his presumably inerrant work to mislead folks?
He put it there for Folks like you:
DAVEH: Don't let me put words in your mouth, Kev
Hi David,
I am not so foolish as to think that I can dissuade
and then persuade with only a couple of short hellos; nor do I believe that the
ultimate judgment in this matter is even mine to make. I am just really, really
in love with our Lord and want to show that love to others, you inclu
DAVEH: And then he specifically adds Jesus Christ to his comment as a separate entity. Why would he do that if he weren't pointing out their differences despite their singleness of purpose?
The scripture says ONE God in the chapter a number of times I must have missed where it said ONE in PURPOSE
Judy Taylor wrote:
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy Taylor wrote:
Well folks I went to the movie and saw parts of it; it was
much more
We no longer know Jesus after the flesh.
DAVEH: ??? What do you mean by this, Judy?
jt: I mean that he walke
Wm. Taylor wrote:
So much kindness. I agree.
I love you, my friend, and hope to
show you why in due course.
DAVEH: Thanx for your reply, Bill. I must say that I very much
appreciate your kind and humble way of expressing yourself. I wish you
had been here last year to he
DAVEH: Were you thinking about TTers when you wrote this, Judy?!?!?!? ;-)
God wrote it DaveH!
Read it yourself maybe he was thinking of TTers, especially you unbelievers!
HOLY BIBLE Romans 3 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?Much every way: chiefly, bec
I already answered this see other post
This info is in error.
Maybe you two groups (LDS & JW) should combine forces and cast dispersion on God's word.
You could call it the "Yea hath God said society"
Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Raymond Bothoms & hence; you
Got your inform
DAVEH: Thank you for pointing that out, Kevin. QuestionWhy do you think God let those errant chapter headings be placed in his presumably inerrant work to mislead folks?
He put it there for Folks like you:
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
IS 8:14 And he shall be for a sanctuary;
Judy, if you haven't already read my first message
like this one, please read this one instead. I have corrected some typos in this
one. The content remains intact.
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From:
Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:12
PM
Judy,
If you will bear with me through a short anecdote,
I will try to spin it into something that explains my fears regarding the
direction in which I see this discussion taking us.
After Augustine the Church went in a decidedly
different direction from where it had been heading prior to
From: Graham Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
woops!! sent this accidentally...not finished, so will, with your
indulgence, carry on...
In other words, what we think we bring by ourselves to the Bible
is coloured by our background, part of which was painfully worked
out by many Christians in previous ce
From: Graham Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I am a Trinitarian. Again, let us not pretend the doctrine
of the Trinity is somehow laid out bare and easy to see in Scripture.
The church reflected for centuries on the topic before advancing to the
views articulated by the Cappadocian Fathers (the Gregorie
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
that the Pope allegedly said 'it is as
it was' is interesting, eh?
e.g., what if he'd have said(?), 'that
ain't how it happened'
jt: I wouldn't have expected him to rock
the boat since the Pope
and Mel Gibson are of
the same
religious mindset. Both are heavi
From: "Jensen, John T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The
most interesting question to me is how you, as a Protestant,
know:
- what is Scripture (i.e. which
writings are Scripture and which not)
- why it is Scripture (i.e. why those
writings have authority - are
something that you will be
Let everyone see that you are
gentle and kind. The Lord is coming soon. Do not worry about anything, but pray
and ask God for everything you need, always giving thanks. And God's peace,
which is so great we cannot understand it, will keep your hearts
and minds in Christ Jesus.
Brothe
From: "Jensen, John T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[jj] My question wasn't really just asking for information. It was, of
course, a leading question: how do we preserve unity if we disagree?
jt: There is no unity; how can two walk together except they be agreed?
The one it is important to agree with is
From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
jt: I found it difficult to believe the Roman soldiers could
have acted in the way they were portrayed which was totally chaotic and out
of order, drinking on the job, laughing, and whipping him all the way up this
steep hill to Golgotha with him bloo
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy Taylor wrote:
Well folks I went to the movie and saw parts of it; it was much
more
We no longer know Jesus after the flesh.
DAVEH: ??? What do you mean by this, Judy?
jt: I mean that he walked about in the flesh for approximately 33 1/2yrs
and
ce
So much kindness. I agree.
I love you, my friend, and hope to show you why in
due course.
Bill
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From:
Dave
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 11:26
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Last words on
Jesus had the same sinful flesh
Kevin,
If I am off base on what I'm about to say, please
get me back on. But you need to cool it. When new people sign up to our little
e-community, they come because they see that this is also a site for the
discussion of science and philosophy. This is how I blundered into this. I
thought
Wm. Taylor wrote:
Great stuff, Dave H. Sometimes we
are much closer to the truth than we are even aware. Keep it up!
DAVEH: Thanx for the words of encouragement, Bill. However, I must
warn you that saying such may cause a wrath of unkindness to befall you
here in TT.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
VINCE The problem in Mormonism is that you open up again
the Roman and Greek idea of there being many gods, which I believe
would be contrary to Scripture and the cherished teaching of Scripture
that there is only one God.
DAVEH: I don't see it that way at all...
Great stuff, Dave H. Sometimes we are much closer
to the truth than we are even aware. Keep it up!
Bill
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From:
Dave
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 12:48
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Last words on
Jesus had the same sinf
Judy Taylor wrote:
Well folks I went to the movie and saw parts of it; it was much
more
We no longer know Jesus after the flesh.
DAVEH: ??? What do you mean by this, Judy?
Last I
heard the movie had already made $200,000.00
DAVEH: Hm..I would think he will make
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Raymond Bothoms & hence; you
Got your information from a Jehovah Witness site
http://www.bibletoday.com/htstb/spurious.htm
DAVEH: Whether or not the author is a JW (or whether the site is JW
related), is the material he offered correct, Kevin? IF it is correct,
wou
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Just pointing out the Numbers of the verses, the chapter
headings, the chapter divisions and anything outside the text of the
Word of God are not inerrant.
DAVEH: Thank you for pointing that out, Kevin. QuestionWhy do you
think God let those errant chapter headings
Old bible manuscripts are available for scholars to study. Are old
Joe's golden plates available for scholars to study?
vincent j. fulton
On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 21:28:22 -0800 "Charles Perry Locke"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Blaine, the number of witnesses is impressive...but the book is a
JT, that the Pope allegedly said 'it is
as it was' is interesting, eh?
e.g., what if he'd have said(?), 'that
ain't how it happened'
G ~ P 235
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 04:07:06 -0500 Judy
Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
||
Let God be God and every man a
liar
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I found it difficult to believe
the Roman soldiers could have acted in the
way they were portrayed which was totally chaotic and out of order,
drinking
on the job, laughing, and whipping him all the way up this steep hill to
Golgotha
with him bloody, staggering, and consta
Just pointing out the Numbers of the verses, the chapter headings, the chapter divisions and anything outside the text of the Word of God are not inerrant.
If we did not have Gods inerrant word someone on this earth he could not hold us responsible for doit what it says.Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
HALALUYAH!Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine: Read this Kevin, and weep: What about the passage in your dearly beloved Bible, that says, (Jesus speaking)
"And other sheep I have , which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and
WT says I for one can attest to the fact
See Blaine you need to listen up we have 2 witnesses here William & Lance"Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Lance, welcome to the neighborhood. I like what Torrance says. I for one can attest to the fact that it is truly in times of deep confl
CPL says Kevin, you can stop weeping now...I solved the "mystery". LOL
LOL
Not much of a mystery was it.
How about that it was there in the CONTEXT all the time.
Who would have guessed?
Surely not any LDS who love to pull out 1 verse here 1 verse there
(or even a partial verse as in "gods many lor
These witnesses had no conviction.
The things they "saw" made NO DIFFERENCE in their lives
ALL of the 3 Witnesses APOSTACIZED
(therefore they were witnesses against the power of the BoM)
4 of the eight Apostacied a fifth dying before he had a chance to, with the last 3 being SMITHS!
More of a witn
Raymond Bothoms & hence; you
Got your information from a Jehovah Witness site
http://www.bibletoday.com/htstb/spurious.htm
Are you joining?
Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Raymond Bothoms is just another one of us good old boys from Utah. By the way, Kevin, where do you live
Oophs!
Just for the record so I'm not also a heretick
It's "Let God be true and every man a liar"
so appropriate in the times in which we live
Judy
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) ht
Well folks I went to the movie and saw parts of it; it was much more
disturbing than I had anticipated so I averted my eyes from a lot of it
as
did one of our daughters. It was violence from start to finish,
the soundtrack
one of punching, slapping, and whipping and the atmosphere decidedly
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