[313] Tastefest

2002-06-24 Thread Mxyzptlk
Scroll down to the Motor Stage. Not new news, I know, but a little 
reminder doesn't hurt :-)


http://newcenter.com/tastefest/music_2002.htm

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[313] hyperreal question

2002-06-24 Thread scotto
I was goofin off with the sherlock search engine in my mac and I enter
richie hawtin.
a few differnt common link showed up but this one that was a odd ball on I
click on it turned out to be a fan page with some pretty inaccurate info on
it but it has a link to hyperreal with what says is an interview with richie
in nov 1994. now I clicked on it and it was gone does anyone remember this
or
have a copy of it I would like to hear it

website I found it on:
http://www.rpi.edu/~desais2/plastikman.html

and the link of the susposid interview
http://hyperreal.com:70/0/music/artist/plastikman/interview.nov94

yes I noticed it was a dot com but there were so many other mistakes I
figured it was worth one letter to the list and maybe someone knew of this?

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[313] ID on another disco track played by RON HARDY

2002-06-24 Thread James Hurlbut
I've been wondering about this track that I've only heard on mixes at 
deephousepage.com. I'd post the times and mixes but deephousepage has been 
down all weekend () along with klubradio.de, making my weekend 
stuck in front of this box not any easier. Its on the Tee Scott mix live at 
Zanzibar, I think its the second song after Chaka Khan performs, or at 
least it is on the dub I made of it. Its also on the Ron Hardy tribute mix 
by Izrael, I think it might be the first song on that one. Anywhere here's 
a breakdown of the song, any help IDing would be very appreciated.


female singer:  gotta get a bit on the drums cmon cmon cmon and give me some

get up off of your pace give me some funky bass yeahee yeah hhoohh ... 
melodies


lalala lalala lalala melodies, true melodies 

then a spine tingling piano line

then funky wah wah guitar riff

then break down to kick and snare and tralala lalala lalala melodies 
,melodiss


sometime later a muffled male voice says c'mon wheres the rest of the tape?
then a backwards spinning effect followed by that haunting piano again.

Or something like that.

Can anyone recommend a house email list? I know people don't want this to 
turn into a house list. I love the deephousepage chat, but I like getting 
things through email. Thanks again, sorry to post about house but I've been 
wondering about this song for awhile.




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[313] records.

2002-06-24 Thread ryan burns



i just feel like starting a thread about new records comming out.  the new 
DWIN on kms is real nice.
when the hell is the new sean deason on matrix comming out.  are there any 
sound clips on the new i can hear.  what was seans web address?
both of the new keith tuckers are fresh, Stick it in your ear, and Searching 
are the ones im talking about.   does keith tucker have any other material 
that isnt electro???


burns


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[313] aril brikha

2002-06-24 Thread ryan burns


aril has a video to go with groove la chord on transmat.com

anyone have any thoughts on the new stephan brown eps.  im not sure if i 
like them much



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Re: [313] aril brikha

2002-06-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
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aril has a video to go with groove la chord on transmat.com

im about to go watch it. 

anyone have any thoughts on the new stephan brown eps.  im not 
sure if i 
like them much

i only heard the one, it was good but not excellent. id like to 
hear it played out and about though, im sure id like it a ton more 
if i heard it loud. 

tom 


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[313] Sonar: overall review?

2002-06-24 Thread bart wolff
Well, i'm wondering if anyone could post an overall review of Sonar. Having 
visited the festival for the last two years, last year i was a bit let down 
by the fact that the night venue was so amazingly big and very 
anonymous...and therefore commercialism ruled...


Anyone, anyone???



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RE: [313] UR- Revolution For Change

2002-06-24 Thread Langsman, Marc
I got mine from rubadub .. http://www.rad69.com 



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yperreal.org'
Subject: [313] UR- Revolution For Change


I've searched just about 

everywhere for a copy of this.

If anyone could point me in the right direction I would

appreciate it.



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RE: [313] TechHouse (was Sonar/John Tejada)

2002-06-24 Thread Odeluga, Ken
MDT: I'll look out for some tech-house sets
which i regard as typical (boring) examples of the music...

Possibly, some Eukatech comps from a couple of years ago (can't really speak
for the very recent ones).

The earlier ones were (imho) object lessons in how to make, Phuture,
Hardfloor, Berkovi, Alanis, et al, sound dull. Remarkable.

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Re: [313] Wild Pitch (was: DJ Pierre)

2002-06-24 Thread raoul
One of my favorites in the wild pitch style has to be:

Photon inc. - Give a little love

A great vocal house tune.


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Subject: [313] Wild Pitch (was: DJ Pierre)



 because I'm a total sucker for the wild pitch sound

cool thread, what do other 313'ers consider their top Wild Pitch style
tracks?

Cheers,
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Re: [313] hyperreal question

2002-06-24 Thread Dan Sicko

haven't read it yet, but there indeed used to be a hyperreal.com (and
before that, techno.stanford.edu for you geezers).

-d

On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, scotto wrote:

 I was goofin off with the sherlock search engine in my mac and I enter
 richie hawtin.
 a few differnt common link showed up but this one that was a odd ball on I
 click on it turned out to be a fan page with some pretty inaccurate info on
 it but it has a link to hyperreal with what says is an interview with richie
 in nov 1994. now I clicked on it and it was gone does anyone remember this
 or
 have a copy of it I would like to hear it

 website I found it on:
 http://www.rpi.edu/~desais2/plastikman.html

 and the link of the susposid interview
 http://hyperreal.com:70/0/music/artist/plastikman/interview.nov94

 yes I noticed it was a dot com but there were so many other mistakes I
 figured it was worth one letter to the list and maybe someone knew of this?

 scotto



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[313] How to save internet broadcasting...?

2002-06-24 Thread brendan . nelson
I've mentioned this idea before, and in light of last week's developments
thought it might be an appropriate time to propose this approach once
again...

Although the present situation regarding internet broadcasters has come
about as a result of new technologies, it bears a remarkable similarity to
one which occured back in 1940, when the ASCAP organisation significantly
raised the rates charged to radio stations for the broadcasting of its
artists works. This led to a prolonged dispute which saw all radio stations
being forced to stop playing any ASCAP material on air. ASCAP perceived that
radio was a threat to its record sales - in spite of evidence which showed
that sales would surge after a disc was spun on a popular show - and made
the knee-jerk, protectionist decision to withdraw its catalogue of music
from the airwaves.

All this left the radio stations at the time in a bit of a fix, as the vast
majority of publicly known artists were ASCAP members. What was left to
play? The advent of 'talk radio' might have come several decades early if it
weren't for BMI, which had been set up in 1940 with the help of many
broadcasters who felt that an alternative to the monopolistic, price-fixing
practises of ASCAP had to be established. Radio stations became aware that
there was a lot of music owned by BMI which they could play instead of the
ASCAP material, and so, for the duration of ASCAP's radio boycott, BMI
material had a virtual monopoly on radio airplay.

What was the net effect? Well, by the time ASCAP decided to end its radio
boycott, BMI artists had stolen the edge over them, and had used radio to
establish themselves in the minds of the public. BMI leant further towards
the sorts of musics that ASCAP didn't like dealing with - RB, gospel,
bluegrass - and so ASCAP's radio boycott had had the additional effect of
causing mainstream audiences to become accustomed to these black forms of
music. It is arguable, in fact, that the whole 1950s phenomenon of black
music hitting white audiences that became known as rock'n'roll had its roots
in the withdrawal of ASCAP material from US radio in 1940 and 1941; that, if
BMI hadn't had the opporunity to dominate the airwaves, these other forms of
music would have remained in perpetual obscurity, and the modern cultural
landscape would be unrecognisably different.

So how does the ASCAP radio dispute of the early 1940s mirror our current
situation? Well, this time around the monopolistic association is the RIAA,
the threatening new technology is the internet, and the lesser-known forms
of music that stand to benefit are primarily electronic. There is no
analogue to BMI, though, and this is the crux of my suggested solution. I
believe that the formation of a new association of music publishers -
independent from ASCAP, BMI or the RIAA - is what is needed to ensure that
internet broadcasting has a future. 

This new association would strongly correlate to the loose global community
of producers, songwriters and composers many refer to as the underground.
The last twenty years has, after all, seen the cost of music-making
equipment fall so far that the barriers to entry are now very low, and
perhaps it is due time that the bedroom music-production scene struck out
on its own. The crackdown of internet broadcasting is a good time for such
an organisation to come into existence, because many underground producers
are far more likely to receive coverage from small webcasters that from
normal radio stations, and with the webcasters out of the picture the most
valuable promotional channel available to us has been lost.

There is more at stake than simply the practise of broadcasting music over
the web; like the ASCAP radio ban, this dispute is likely to have broader
cultural implications than may seem apparent right now. Should our musical
diet be restricted to licensed radio stations, expensive RIAA-owned
file-sharing networks, CDs purchased from anodyne musical outlets whose
protection mechanisms betray an assumption that the buyer is in fact a
thief, glossy videos on MTV and Ticketmaster gigs? I believe not, and if we
do have a new performing-rights association, there is a chance that - if its
body of work became large enough soon enough - this sort of musical
environment might be avoided.

I'd be interested to know if anyone has any major objections to this general
idea, or any reasons why it would be unworkable in practise (I'm neither a
lawyer nor a music industry expert, as you can tell!), I'd be pretty happy
to hear them!

Brendan


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Re: [313] Dego track id

2002-06-24 Thread tom churchill
 It's refrain is like You can go anywhere you want
 but it's in your mind...

That's be Da One Away - 'The Mind' on 2000 Black (cat no 2006 Black). It's
an IG Culture project, and the vocals are by Bembe Segue... great tune! It's
also on the CD version of the US Planet E release of the 2000 Black 'Good
Good' compilation...

Cheers,

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[313] let no man put asunder

2002-06-24 Thread Maarten Baute
Ok,

so I am searching this record by first choice, called let no man put
asunder. I know the original mix form the album Delusion but I am
searching for a different mix here...

So the mix that I am looking for is probably the 'salsoul sg397' remixed in
1983 by Shep Pettibone
 and backed with a Frankie Knuckles mix on the b side..

This is quite hard to get , isn´t it?

So I saw two other versions on Ram Horns recordings:

* rams horn 3307: extended mix
* rams horn 3218: org / instrumental / acapella

does one of those get close to the following sound sample? I am particulary
looking for the beats and melody at the end of this sound sample (played by
ron hardy):

http://www.noctis.com/sound/reel.ram

Thanks!
Maarten




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[313] JAN

2002-06-24 Thread alex . bond
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A friend of mine was telling me this weekend of a Kenny Dixon mix (J.A.N
mix) of the keyboard? player from Funkadelic/Parliament.

His name has escaped me, this thing is recent though, it's been floating
around on promo for a while (2 or 3 weeks).

It sound's interesting, has anyone heard it, or could point me to somewhere
that would have a copy?

Thanks,

Alex.

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RE: [313] JAN

2002-06-24 Thread Rob Theakston
i believe it's amp fiddler, who has been on a few KDJ releases playing
keyboards.

is the release on KDJ?

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Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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A friend of mine was telling me this weekend of a Kenny Dixon mix (J.A.N
mix) of the keyboard? player from Funkadelic/Parliament.

His name has escaped me, this thing is recent though, it's been floating
around on promo for a while (2 or 3 weeks).

It sound's interesting, has anyone heard it, or could point me to somewhere
that would have a copy?

Thanks,

Alex.

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for 'tronbomber' in the search for seller bit. Spam, spam.)

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Re: [313] let no man put asunder

2002-06-24 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Maarten Baute wrote on Mon, 24 Jun 2002 about following:

 So the mix that I am looking for is probably the 'salsoul sg397' remixed in
 1983 by Shep Pettibone
 
 This is quite hard to get , isn´t it?

mine's a Serious Records OUS 3 12 from 1987 with following tracks

A1 - let.. original mix (mixed by shep pettibone) [this is the version 
 thats played everywhere]
A2 - let.. jack the body mix (no notes on remixer)
B1 - let.. house mix (no notes on remixer)
B2 - let me down easy club mix (this is another song)

that a1 track is also available on cd Divas of Dance, Slip'n'Slide 
SLIPCD119, where it is titled as Let no man put asunder - shep 
pettibone's master mix


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RE: [313] JAN

2002-06-24 Thread alex . bond

Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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Yeah, that's the guy, Amp fiddler, Thanks Rob.

Don't know if it's on KDJ, don't think so though.

Anyone else got any info?




Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 24/06/2002 13:32:35
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Subject:RE: [313] JAN

i believe it's amp fiddler, who has been on a few KDJ releases playing
keyboards.

is the release on KDJ?

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A friend of mine was telling me this weekend of a Kenny Dixon mix (J.A.N
mix) of the keyboard? player from Funkadelic/Parliament.

His name has escaped me, this thing is recent though, it's been floating
around on promo for a while (2 or 3 weeks).

It sound's interesting, has anyone heard it, or could point me to somewhere
that would have a copy?

Thanks,

Alex.

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[313] Brief sonar review

2002-06-24 Thread Chris Rooney
radioboy(herbert) was as amazing as you'd expect, quite mental and he 
had a good onstage presence in a mad professor style.   

peaches\gonzales\pan sonic were rock n´roll glitch hop gab core
- tastic!

Francois Kevorkian -  amazing DJ, really, really deep house 
and techno and he had a huge studio rack of effects that he knew 
inside out, he was really into it too...seems to be the only one of those
New York old
timers that actually still buys records, heard the surgeon mix of birmingham
by rue east 
and son dos on los hermanos amongst others.

soul designer - quite good, fabrice lig and two other guys (one on
percussion the other various electronic 'stuff') rocking it, a nice live
feel with that fabrice lig melodic sound but quite beefed up. 

jon tejada - brilliant deep techno set with nice scratching\dicking 
around...anyone who heard it know that technasia tune he played??

soulcenter - probably my highlight, ultra funky brinkmann stuff...it 
was amazing seeing a couple of thousand kids going mad to his weird
breakdowns.
tiga on afterwards was quite dull in comparison.

mills - the sound was a bit ropey which was kind of annoying but his 
set was amazing, loads of energy and huge video screens showing you 
what he was doing(trainspotter drool...) and a long 909 workout. he seemed
to have some control over the visuals too, messages flashing on screen and 
countdowns into tunes which added to the atmosphere.

hawtin - the best i´ve heard from him in a while, ultra minimal deep 
stuff only getting hard towards the end, much more interesting than 
usual. he started off mixing a dubby minimal tune into some other 
beatless minimal track, it was ages before you heard a kick drum.

bear in mind that's 3 awesome days condensed into a few lines, Sonar really
was amazing.
it was a real eye opener seeing so many people really getting into decent
music for a change, kind of re-affirming i.e. 8,000 kids jumping about to
luomo's deep house laptop-bop don't see that every weekend! most people even
seemed to leave the main area on friday night when John Digweed came on
which was quite a statement, the most obviously commercial DJ of the weekend
getting one of the worst crowds.

i'll definitely try to make it back next year and would highly recommend it
to everyone.

chris

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[313] new a. miller on MG

2002-06-24 Thread Mislav Bobic
hello,

anyone heard this already ?

alton miller - soundscape  vibes - MOODS N GROOVES   (MG016)



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Re: [313] hyperreal question

2002-06-24 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
Hyperreal was a .com back in the mid 90s. It only changed to .org maybe in 
96 or 97? I don't know anything of this interview but I wouldn't be 
surprised in it existed somewhere...


At 01:16 AM 6/24/2002 -0400, scotto wrote:

I was goofin off with the sherlock search engine in my mac and I enter
richie hawtin.
a few differnt common link showed up but this one that was a odd ball on I
click on it turned out to be a fan page with some pretty inaccurate info on
it but it has a link to hyperreal with what says is an interview with richie
in nov 1994. now I clicked on it and it was gone does anyone remember this
or
have a copy of it I would like to hear it

website I found it on:
http://www.rpi.edu/~desais2/plastikman.html

and the link of the susposid interview
http://hyperreal.com:70/0/music/artist/plastikman/interview.nov94

yes I noticed it was a dot com but there were so many other mistakes I
figured it was worth one letter to the list and maybe someone knew of this?

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[313] Sonar/Kervorkian

2002-06-24 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Chris Rooney: Francois Kevorkian -  amazing DJ, really, really deep house
and techno and he had a huge studio rack of effects that he knew
inside out, he was really into it too...seems to be the only one of those
New York old
timers that actually still buys records, heard the surgeon mix of birmingham
by rue east
and son dos on los hermanos amongst others.

To me, this is such a good sign: if anyone knows (and I mean *really* knows,
at an intimate, even molecular level) what is good quality and *effective*
dance music - FK is amongst that few. Remember his perceptions are partly
honed by near-30 years of experience. The fact that he's prepared to throw
in his lot with techno, to me is highly significant, and speaks well about
the state of the music (at least on a spiritual level).

UK peeps, remember he's @ Lost 23.7.

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RE: [313] Sonar/Kervorkian

2002-06-24 Thread Ian Cheshire
sorry thats 27-07 on the saturday. not 23rd...

And yes I cannot wait to see him and Derrick!! what a nite it will be!!

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Subject: [313] Sonar/Kervorkian


Chris Rooney: Francois Kevorkian -  amazing DJ, really, really deep house
and techno and he had a huge studio rack of effects that he knew
inside out, he was really into it too...seems to be the only one of those
New York old
timers that actually still buys records, heard the surgeon mix of birmingham
by rue east
and son dos on los hermanos amongst others.

To me, this is such a good sign: if anyone knows (and I mean *really* knows,
at an intimate, even molecular level) what is good quality and *effective*
dance music - FK is amongst that few. Remember his perceptions are partly
honed by near-30 years of experience. The fact that he's prepared to throw
in his lot with techno, to me is highly significant, and speaks well about
the state of the music (at least on a spiritual level).

UK peeps, remember he's @ Lost 23.7.

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Re: [313] hyperreal question

2002-06-24 Thread :P
you might want to contact mike perkowitz?

-Joe
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Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [313] hyperreal question


 Hyperreal was a .com back in the mid 90s. It only changed to .org maybe in
 96 or 97? I don't know anything of this interview but I wouldn't be
 surprised in it existed somewhere...

 At 01:16 AM 6/24/2002 -0400, scotto wrote:
 I was goofin off with the sherlock search engine in my mac and I enter
 richie hawtin.
 a few differnt common link showed up but this one that was a odd ball on
I
 click on it turned out to be a fan page with some pretty inaccurate info
on
 it but it has a link to hyperreal with what says is an interview with
richie
 in nov 1994. now I clicked on it and it was gone does anyone remember
this
 or
 have a copy of it I would like to hear it
 
 website I found it on:
 http://www.rpi.edu/~desais2/plastikman.html
 
 and the link of the susposid interview
 http://hyperreal.com:70/0/music/artist/plastikman/interview.nov94
 
 yes I noticed it was a dot com but there were so many other mistakes I
 figured it was worth one letter to the list and maybe someone knew of
this?
 
 scotto
 
 
 
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Re: [313] Kervorkian / Minimal Tech

2002-06-24 Thread Mark S. Krüx
Bumped into FK at Vinyl Market here in NYC recently and he was knee-deep in
the Minimal/Brinkman/Force/Kompakt corner of the store...

I'd love to hear a Kevorkian Techno set!

=)

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 Chris Rooney: Francois Kevorkian -  amazing DJ, really, really deep house
 and techno and he had a huge studio rack of effects that he knew
 inside out, he was really into it too...seems to be the only one of those
 New York old
 timers that actually still buys records, heard the surgeon mix of
birmingham
 by rue east
 and son dos on los hermanos amongst others.

 To me, this is such a good sign: if anyone knows (and I mean *really*
knows,
 at an intimate, even molecular level) what is good quality and *effective*
 dance music - FK is amongst that few. Remember his perceptions are partly
 honed by near-30 years of experience. The fact that he's prepared to throw
 in his lot with techno, to me is highly significant, and speaks well about
 the state of the music (at least on a spiritual level).

 UK peeps, remember he's @ Lost 23.7.

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FW: [313] no subject

2002-06-24 Thread Paul Wise
Any takers ?
After checking it out  it has a no. of  VA001  - bsc  national sound
detroit  on the vinyl



 Well is it the same matrix as the fragile? 100% not  network  before it was
released on fragile (I think)
 
 I  think it is the network release(same matrix though)
 
 
 Anyone got information of  the blue vinyl  whitew label of  reese
 inside
 out
 
 I'm sure it was the release prior to 'fragile'  but I may be wrong..
 
 Anyone
 
 
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RE: [313] Sonar/Kervorkian

2002-06-24 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Oops -  cheers, Ian ... Jeez. I could have misdirected a whole bunch of
people.

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sorry thats 27-07 on the saturday. not 23rd...

And yes I cannot wait to see him and Derrick!! what a nite it will be!!

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Subject: [313] Sonar/Kervorkian


Chris Rooney: Francois Kevorkian -  amazing DJ, really, really deep house
and techno and he had a huge studio rack of effects that he knew
inside out, he was really into it too...seems to be the only one of those
New York old
timers that actually still buys records, heard the surgeon mix of
birmingham
by rue east
and son dos on los hermanos amongst others.

To me, this is such a good sign: if anyone knows (and I mean
*really* knows,
at an intimate, even molecular level) what is good quality and *effective*
dance music - FK is amongst that few. Remember his perceptions are partly
honed by near-30 years of experience. The fact that he's prepared to throw
in his lot with techno, to me is highly significant, and speaks well about
the state of the music (at least on a spiritual level).

UK peeps, remember he's @ Lost 23.7.

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RE: [313] new Drexciya LP!

2002-06-24 Thread james boylan

 I think drexciya just keep on improving and moving on. A lot
 of people will
 find out the 12 and album are great in a couple of years time IMO. 
They're pushing the boundaries all the time.


Yes, I agree entirelyfar too many techno artists have become way too 
complacent and just content to ape the traditional Detroit styles.




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RE: [313] new Drexciya LP!

2002-06-24 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

   I think drexciya just keep on improving and moving on. A lot
   of people will
   find out the 12 and album are great in a couple of years 
 time IMO. 
 They're pushing the boundaries all the time.
 
 Yes, I agree entirelyfar too many techno artists have 
 become way too 
 complacent and just content to ape the traditional Detroit styles.

Far to many people expect to much from techno artists to...


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Re: [313] Dego track id

2002-06-24 Thread Stephen Kelly

previously..


That's be Da One Away - 'The Mind' on 2000 Black (cat no 2006 Black).
It's an IG Culture project, and the vocals are by Bembe Segue... great 
tune! It's also on the CD version of the US Planet E release of the 2000 
Black 'Good Good' compilation...


sure it's an i.g project tom?.. i always thought it was a shared thing of 
dego and ian's - but 'trash da junk' was just dego and kaidi wasn't it?.. 
read somewhere that they were working on an album under that guise, can't 
remember where tho.. and there's a killer new track on the next co-op 
compilation by da one away that's well worth checking..


everyone should keep an eye out for mark mac's new scattered snares project 
as well - going to be releasing some mighty music soon.. also mark's 
productions at the minute are unmissable, check his work with terry callier, 
ed motta and moonstarr for starters.. oh and nubian mindz mix of maxelle on 
public transit should appeal to the techno headz ;)


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Re: [313] let no man put asunder

2002-06-24 Thread Jonny McIntosh
Maarten,

Any of: the Salsoul 397 (which came out, I think, in '83) or the Ramshorn
issue with the Accapella will have the mix you're after. I'm pretty sure
it's the Knuckles mix which Ron Hardy played, and that's on the Ramshorn,
though it isn't listed as it on any of the copies I've seen. The Shep
Pettibone remix is also on the recent Salsoul Mastercuts 12 (which has
Doctor Love on the flip, I think). Both are wicked, but the Ron Hardy
one's that bit rawer (and IMO better). The Ramshorn pressing's worth getting
for the accapella, anyway. I haven't checked your sample to make sure this
is definitely what you're after, but I assume it is.

Jonny

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Subject: [313] let no man put asunder


 Ok,

 so I am searching this record by first choice, called let no man put
 asunder. I know the original mix form the album Delusion but I am
 searching for a different mix here...

 So the mix that I am looking for is probably the 'salsoul sg397' remixed
in
 1983 by Shep Pettibone
  and backed with a Frankie Knuckles mix on the b side..

 This is quite hard to get , isnt it?

 So I saw two other versions on Ram Horns recordings:

 * rams horn 3307: extended mix
 * rams horn 3218: org / instrumental / acapella

 does one of those get close to the following sound sample? I am
particulary
 looking for the beats and melody at the end of this sound sample (played
by
 ron hardy):

 http://www.noctis.com/sound/reel.ram

 Thanks!
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Re: [313] new Drexciya LP!

2002-06-24 Thread David Powers
I think there is a strange phenomenon developing, with the acceleration 
of technology and culture...  it seems people are no longer content to 
let artists develop and refine an original sound... instead, after two 
or three years, people get upset if artists don't go somewhere new. 
Traditionally, the time frame for developing as an artist was a 
lifetime.  Now if someone does the same thing for ten years they are 
considered boring!  I think it is unfair to expect artists and genres to 
develop at such a quick rate.  And, if you haven't figured it out, I 
don't think techno is dying at all.  It's just a little too much to 
expect that the boundaries will ALWAYS be getting pushed to some extreme 
year after year.  Sometimes periods where art matures are good too, and 
may in the end produce some of the most refined and substantial works. 
Just my opinion...


   _dave.CyborgK

Jongsma, K.J. wrote:


I think drexciya just keep on improving and moving on. A lot
of people will
find out the 12 and album are great in a couple of years 

time IMO. 


They're pushing the boundaries all the time.

Yes, I agree entirelyfar too many techno artists have 
become way too 
complacent and just content to ape the traditional Detroit styles.




Far to many people expect to much from techno artists to...


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Re: [313] Sonar/Kevorkian

2002-06-24 Thread Brent Kirkwood
To me, this is such a good sign: if anyone knows (and I mean *really* 
knows,

at an intimate, even molecular level) what is good quality and *effective*
dance music - FK is amongst that few. Remember his perceptions are partly
honed by near-30 years of experience. The fact that he's prepared to throw
in his lot with techno, to me is highly significant, and speaks well about
the state of the music (at least on a spiritual level).


Francois K is definitely a master.

I recall when he played in Detroit a few years ago (at Clutch Cargos), he 
played rather harder than I expected.  I don't remember much about track 
selection though.  Anyone?  It was pretty empty - an embarrassingly empty 
dance floor with everyone downstairs listening to Kooky Scientist if my 
memory is right.


Brent


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[313] FK

2002-06-24 Thread alex . bond
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On the subject of Francois Kevorkian, Lost mentioned he had a label called
Click Tracks.

I've never seen anything (or heard) on this label, has anyone else?

B.T.W, Last time I saw him (at Music Box, Manchester), he was AWESOME, and
I don't use that word lightly...!

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Re: [313] FK

2002-06-24 Thread tom churchill
 On the subject of Francois Kevorkian, Lost mentioned he had a label called
 Click Tracks.
 
 I've never seen anything (or heard) on this label, has anyone else?

http://www.wavemusic.com/wave-label/6

There's at least one release so far available on Juno:

CREAMER, John  STEPHANE K/DYLAN DRAZEN: Tora Chan (Clicktracks US)
12: John Creamer  Stephane K-Tora Chan/Dylan Drazen-Air Pressure (WM
50086)

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Re: [313] Dego track id

2002-06-24 Thread tom churchill
 Da One Away - 'The Mind' on 2000 Black
 
 sure it's an i.g project tom?.. i always thought it was a shared thing of
 dego and ian's 

Yeah, I had that in mind too, but just checked and the credits on 'The Mind'
are produced and mixed by i.g. culture at roccana hard place. written by
i.g. culture and k. philips. all keys by i.g. culture. additional keys by
kaidi tatham. And the mixes on the 12 are 'N.S.M. Production' (N.S.M.
standing for New Sector Movements, presumably), 'Son of Scientist Venture'
and 'The Mind Breakdown rub'...

 'trash da junk' was just dego and kaidi wasn't it?..

Yeah, and there's no mention of I.G. on the credits - they must be sharing
the project name I guess?

Cheers,

Tom

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RE: [313] Dego track id

2002-06-24 Thread Rob Theakston
Maybe this is nitpicky or a typo, but i could have sworn there was actually
two projects...Da One Away and Da One Way.
With Dego and I.G. being the first project and I.G. and Kaidi being the
second?

Decoding west london aliases is a bit like breaking codes.





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 Da One Away - 'The Mind' on 2000 Black

 sure it's an i.g project tom?.. i always thought it was a shared thing of
 dego and ian's

Yeah, I had that in mind too, but just checked and the credits on 'The Mind'
are produced and mixed by i.g. culture at roccana hard place. written by
i.g. culture and k. philips. all keys by i.g. culture. additional keys by
kaidi tatham. And the mixes on the 12 are 'N.S.M. Production' (N.S.M.
standing for New Sector Movements, presumably), 'Son of Scientist Venture'
and 'The Mind Breakdown rub'...

 'trash da junk' was just dego and kaidi wasn't it?..

Yeah, and there's no mention of I.G. on the credits - they must be sharing
the project name I guess?

Cheers,

Tom

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Re: [313] Dego track id

2002-06-24 Thread tom churchill
 Maybe this is nitpicky or a typo, but i could have sworn there was actually
 two projects...Da One Away and Da One Way.
 With Dego and I.G. being the first project and I.G. and Kaidi being the
 second?

Not sure about that - they're both spelt 'Da One Away' on my copies...

But it's interesting that the IG Culture-produced one ('The Mind') was
released on Dego's label (2000 Black) and the Dego-produced one ('Trash Da
Junk') was released on IG's label (Main Squeeze)...

Choo choo,

Tom


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FW: [313] e-bay stuff

2002-06-24 Thread tom churchill
Forwarding this on behalf of Scape One...

From: Kurt Baggaley mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 mailto:313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:33 PM
Subject: [313] e-bay stuff

A few CD's for sale...

(Carl Craig, Virgo, Eddie Fowlkes, Larry Heard, Various,+ etc.)

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=stu
pid_freshinclude=0since=-1sort=3rows=25

sorry to those who ain't interested,

Kurt / Scape One
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Re: [313] FK / Clicktracks / Rob Rives...

2002-06-24 Thread Mark S. Krüx
TC CREAMER, John  STEPHANE K/DYLAN DRAZEN: Tora Chan (Clicktracks
US) 12: John Creamer  Stephane K-Tora Chan/Dylan Drazen-Air Pressure
(WM
50086)

What sort of record is it then??  Was/is there a sample?

The thought of John Creamer doing something clicky is VERY intriguing.  John
used to help me pick out Techno cuts at Eightball way back when and I still
play a lot of those records...

John has gone down a more commercial road of late...I'd be interested to
find out if this release veers from that at all;-)

On the website it mentions Rob Rives is one of CT's recording artists...also
very intriguing.  Rob has done some cool *minimal* stuff (in a deep NY house
kinda way) using some very cool sounds on Wave.  I'd be interested to hear
what he comes up with for a label that describes itself this way:

About Clicktracks -

As the new millenium unfolds comes the need for a new kind of music,
different sounds that don't quite fit the aesthetic norm of things past. New
directions in music is a tall order, but we'd like to encourage that kind of
a mindset with our newest label, Clicktracks.

This is all about the post-millenial angst of electronic beats and abstract
computerworld textures tied together in a very dark, trippy and minimal dub
state of mind. Do not expect any pretty melodies or fancy songs here, rather
the droning inescapable hypnotic hum of a microprocessor groove in
saturation mode and overdrive. Music for robots? We think a more adequate
description would be a label that will definitely be part of the rise of a
new undercurrent in dancefloor-friendly electronic music composition.

Laters,

m*


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[313] some new scraps

2002-06-24 Thread Brian 'balistic' Prince
Four new audio sketches are available at http://www.bprince.com in the
works-in-progress section.

Deep Space is kind of dubby, with a funky bassline . . . the
transitions don't really work yet. 1:39

Render Farm is tweaky and acidic . . . I've always had a love for
tracks that sound like hard disks doing seek jobs, and this is kind of
an homage to that sound. 2:37

Lake Affect starts out filtered and Swayzak-esque, and gets a bit
E2-E4 after a minute or so. 2:03

Frame Dragging is quick and filtered . .. borderline trance, I
suppose. 1:20

Comments and critique are appreciated.

Oh, someone mailed me about my setup last time I posted but I lost the
message when my webhost imploded last week.  At any rate, I'm 100%
software, and presently that software is a soft-synth called Orion
made by Sonic Syndicate.  Its costs $99 and there's more info here:

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Re: [313] Dego track id

2002-06-24 Thread tom churchill
 is 1969 lsd madness on the mainsqueeze comp?..

Yep.

 who produced that one - wasn't that dego and i.g?

Yep :) Confusing isn't it? And going back to Rob's point (kinda), it's spelt
'The One Away' on the Main Squeeze comp, but 'Da One Away' on the two
previously-mentioned 12s...

Cheers,

Tom

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Re: [313] aril brikha

2002-06-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

The second Stephan Brown is either a release (from Realtime records) or
just one of the tracks is as I've got it - the one with the speech - on
that label which was released earlier than the Transmat release. I like it.

MEK




   
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[313] ron hard track ID's

2002-06-24 Thread Jason
Hey all,

If you are looking for track ID's of any Ron Hardy or other old school
CHICAGO DJ's then call gramaphone records in Chicago and ask to talk to Andy
Moy, he is the old school disco/house expert buyer and can ID and get you
just about anything old you need.

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Re: [313] FK / Clicktracks / Rob Rives...

2002-06-24 Thread :P
hmm

this is a rehashed idea to say the least.

mille plateaux has been into glitch for a while and 12k busted open the
whole microsound concept in like 97 or 98

getting in on glitch now is going to be viewed as jumping on the bandwagon

-Joe


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Subject: Re: [313] FK / Clicktracks / Rob Rives...


 TC CREAMER, John  STEPHANE K/DYLAN DRAZEN: Tora Chan (Clicktracks
 US) 12: John Creamer  Stephane K-Tora Chan/Dylan Drazen-Air Pressure
 (WM
 50086)

 What sort of record is it then??  Was/is there a sample?

 The thought of John Creamer doing something clicky is VERY intriguing.
John
 used to help me pick out Techno cuts at Eightball way back when and I
still
 play a lot of those records...

 John has gone down a more commercial road of late...I'd be interested to
 find out if this release veers from that at all;-)

 On the website it mentions Rob Rives is one of CT's recording
artists...also
 very intriguing.  Rob has done some cool *minimal* stuff (in a deep NY
house
 kinda way) using some very cool sounds on Wave.  I'd be interested to hear
 what he comes up with for a label that describes itself this way:

 About Clicktracks -

 As the new millenium unfolds comes the need for a new kind of music,
 different sounds that don't quite fit the aesthetic norm of things past.
New
 directions in music is a tall order, but we'd like to encourage that kind
of
 a mindset with our newest label, Clicktracks.

 This is all about the post-millenial angst of electronic beats and
abstract
 computerworld textures tied together in a very dark, trippy and minimal
dub
 state of mind. Do not expect any pretty melodies or fancy songs here,
rather
 the droning inescapable hypnotic hum of a microprocessor groove in
 saturation mode and overdrive. Music for robots? We think a more adequate
 description would be a label that will definitely be part of the rise of a
 new undercurrent in dancefloor-friendly electronic music composition.

 Laters,

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Re: [313] aril brikha

2002-06-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

I should clarify that - The second Stephan Brown is either a re- release,
orginally on Realtime records.



   
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The second Stephan Brown is either a release (from Realtime records) or
just one of the tracks is as I've got it - the one with the speech - on
that label which was released earlier than the Transmat release. I like it.

MEK




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anyone have any thoughts on the new stephan brown eps.  im not sure if i
like them much


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Re: [313] FK / Clicktracks / Rob Rives...

2002-06-24 Thread :P
sorry, my comments were re: the premise of clicktracks


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 hmm

 this is a rehashed idea to say the least.

 mille plateaux has been into glitch for a while and 12k busted open the
 whole microsound concept in like 97 or 98

 getting in on glitch now is going to be viewed as jumping on the bandwagon

 -Joe


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313@hyperreal.org
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 Subject: Re: [313] FK / Clicktracks / Rob Rives...


  TC CREAMER, John  STEPHANE K/DYLAN DRAZEN: Tora Chan (Clicktracks
  US) 12: John Creamer  Stephane K-Tora Chan/Dylan Drazen-Air
Pressure
  (WM
  50086)
 
  What sort of record is it then??  Was/is there a sample?
 
  The thought of John Creamer doing something clicky is VERY intriguing.
 John
  used to help me pick out Techno cuts at Eightball way back when and I
 still
  play a lot of those records...
 
  John has gone down a more commercial road of late...I'd be interested to
  find out if this release veers from that at all;-)
 
  On the website it mentions Rob Rives is one of CT's recording
 artists...also
  very intriguing.  Rob has done some cool *minimal* stuff (in a deep NY
 house
  kinda way) using some very cool sounds on Wave.  I'd be interested to
hear
  what he comes up with for a label that describes itself this way:
 
  About Clicktracks -
 
  As the new millenium unfolds comes the need for a new kind of music,
  different sounds that don't quite fit the aesthetic norm of things past.
 New
  directions in music is a tall order, but we'd like to encourage that
kind
 of
  a mindset with our newest label, Clicktracks.
 
  This is all about the post-millenial angst of electronic beats and
 abstract
  computerworld textures tied together in a very dark, trippy and minimal
 dub
  state of mind. Do not expect any pretty melodies or fancy songs here,
 rather
  the droning inescapable hypnotic hum of a microprocessor groove in
  saturation mode and overdrive. Music for robots? We think a more
adequate
  description would be a label that will definitely be part of the rise of
a
  new undercurrent in dancefloor-friendly electronic music composition.
 
  Laters,
 
  m*
 
 
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[313] UK people please explain

2002-06-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I was digging up an article on Tech-house for some other 313 subscribers
and in the article they mentioned the Watford Gap - now I know where
Watford is but what exactly is the Watford Gap? And what is the
significance of it in UK/London life?

MEK


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Re: [313] UK people - please reply off-list

2002-06-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

thanks!




   
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Re: [313] new Drexciya LP!

2002-06-24 Thread J. T.

here here!! bravo!
techno fans can be such anal retentive geeks who treat music like science!
innovation is well and good, new styles ok,
but i am really just looking for real ideas and expressions, its about deep 
music period as some foolio once said ;) i'll be listening to traditional 
detroit styles till i die as long as its stuff with original ideas, 
personality and soul in it, and there is infinite room for this to continue 
for a long time. when it comes down to it im most excited by great basslines 
and melodies that i havent heard before, not entirely new sounds or styles 
(altho sometimes those too, but its much rarer!). i think techno IS maturing 
tho and this will become a more natural and relaxed thing to focus more on 
depth, and not so schizophrenic (and trendy), as we all get older.


ok, drexciya might not be inspired or getting new ideas to use with their 
old sounds/style, and are getting a kick off new technology etc, but im not 
gonna automatically like wavejump-glitch or whetever just because its 
fresh...


of course i am excited and checking their new stuff all the same, and 
there's no accounting for taste..


jt

I think there is a strange phenomenon developing, with the acceleration of 
technology and culture...  it seems people are no longer content to let 
artists develop and refine an original sound... instead, after two or three 
years, people get upset if artists don't go somewhere new. Traditionally, 
the time frame for developing as an artist was a lifetime.  Now if someone 
does the same thing for ten years they are considered boring!  I think it 
is unfair to expect artists and genres to develop at such a quick rate.  
And, if you haven't figured it out, I don't think techno is dying at all.  
It's just a little too much to expect that the boundaries will ALWAYS be 
getting pushed to some extreme year after year.  Sometimes periods where 
art matures are good too, and may in the end produce some of the most 
refined and substantial works. Just my opinion...


   _dave.CyborgK

Jongsma, K.J. wrote:


I think drexciya just keep on improving and moving on. A lot
of people will
find out the 12 and album are great in a couple of years


time IMO.


They're pushing the boundaries all the time.

Yes, I agree entirelyfar too many techno artists have become way too 
complacent and just content to ape the traditional Detroit styles.




Far to many people expect to much from techno artists to...


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[313] Tonight: John Beltran on KUCI 88.9FM

2002-06-24 Thread Moe Fuzz
JOHN BELTRAN (aka Placid Angles, Indio) is spinning tonight on KUCI 88.9 Fm 
Irvine, CA


Tune in tonight 8-10pm (PST) on http://kuci.org

Since he couldn't make it down to the show BossaSuperNova, he is spinning 
tonight on the show
Radio 69.  An his dj set will be re-broadcasted this Wed 8-10pm (PST) on 
Bossa Super Nova.  So tune in

either night.


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Re: [313] new Drexciya LP!

2002-06-24 Thread Arne Weinberg
JT, 

I am glad that someone from the list feels the same way that I do!
I prefer a soulful good emotional oldschool Detroit record than the newest 
Supa Dupa hype micro Macro sample glitch Hop House record without any 
statement or emotion

Look at Jazz for example. There are many artists in this artful music that need 
a whole lifetime to find their personal style.

Cheers, Arne




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 here here!! bravo!
 techno fans can be such anal retentive geeks who treat music like science!
 innovation is well and good, new styles ok,
 but i am really just looking for real ideas and expressions, its about deep 
 music period as some foolio once said ;) i'll be listening to traditional 
 detroit styles till i die as long as its stuff with original ideas, 
 personality and soul in it, and there is infinite room for this to continue 
 for a long time. when it comes down to it im most excited by great basslines 
 and melodies that i havent heard before, not entirely new sounds or styles 
 (altho sometimes those too, but its much rarer!). i think techno IS maturing 
 tho and this will become a more natural and relaxed thing to focus more on 
 depth, and not so schizophrenic (and trendy), as we all get older.
 
 ok, drexciya might not be inspired or getting new ideas to use with their 
 old sounds/style, and are getting a kick off new technology etc, but im not 
 gonna automatically like wavejump-glitch or whetever just because its 
 fresh...
 
 of course i am excited and checking their new stuff all the same, and 
 there's no accounting for taste..
 
 jt
 
 I think there is a strange phenomenon developing, with the acceleration of 
 technology and culture...  it seems people are no longer content to let 
 artists develop and refine an original sound... instead, after two or three 
 years, people get upset if artists don't go somewhere new. Traditionally, 
 the time frame for developing as an artist was a lifetime.  Now if someone 
 does the same thing for ten years they are considered boring!  I think it 
 is unfair to expect artists and genres to develop at such a quick rate.  
 And, if you haven't figured it out, I don't think techno is dying at all.  
 It's just a little too much to expect that the boundaries will ALWAYS be 
 getting pushed to some extreme year after year.  Sometimes periods where 
 art matures are good too, and may in the end produce some of the most 
 refined and substantial works. Just my opinion...
 
 _dave.CyborgK
 
 Jongsma, K.J. wrote:
 
 I think drexciya just keep on improving and moving on. A lot
 of people will
 find out the 12 and album are great in a couple of years
 
 time IMO.
 
 They're pushing the boundaries all the time.
 
 Yes, I agree entirelyfar too many techno artists have become way too 
 complacent and just content to ape the traditional Detroit styles.
 
 
 Far to many people expect to much from techno artists to...
 
 
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Re: [313] new Drexciya LP!

2002-06-24 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

At 18:25 + 24-06-2002, Arne Weinberg wrote:

JT,

I am glad that someone from the list feels the same way that I do!
I prefer a soulful good emotional oldschool Detroit record than 
the newest Supa Dupa hype micro Macro sample glitch Hop House 
record without any statement or emotion


Yup, i agree in the end it is just wether you like a piece of music 
or not, if it is innovating that is just a nice extra. Why do you 
like techno, because its innovative or because you 'just happend to 
like music'?


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Re: [313] Sonar/Kevorkian

2002-06-24 Thread Fred Giannelli
on 6/24/02 11:48 AM, Brent Kirkwood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To me, this is such a good sign: if anyone knows (and I mean *really*
 knows,
 at an intimate, even molecular level) what is good quality and *effective*
 dance music - FK is amongst that few. Remember his perceptions are partly
 honed by near-30 years of experience. The fact that he's prepared to throw
 in his lot with techno, to me is highly significant, and speaks well about
 the state of the music (at least on a spiritual level).
 
 Francois K is definitely a master.
 
 I recall when he played in Detroit a few years ago (at Clutch Cargos), he
 played rather harder than I expected.  I don't remember much about track
 selection though.  Anyone?  It was pretty empty - an embarrassingly empty
 dance floor with everyone downstairs listening to Kooky Scientist if my
 memory is right.
 
 Brent
 
Frankly, I was shocked @ the turn out for FK.  I'd prefer to NOT be able to
say that Daniel Bell  I outdrew someone of FK's stature for a fraction of
his fee.  Francois was a professional and gentleman throughout, even if he
was playing to only 2 people on the floor at the end of the night.  We ended
up having breakfast @ the hotel instead of going right to sleep.  He bitched
about the state of UK trance DJ's taking over the universe.  I was in total
agreement.  He even helped carry my equipment when we left for the airport.

Of course, he doesn't even remember who I am now..

telepathic regards,
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Re: [313] hyperreal question

2002-06-24 Thread Mike Brown
scotto wrote:
 and the link of the susposid interview
 http://hyperreal.com:70/0/music/artist/plastikman/interview.nov94

http://music.hyperreal.org/library/publicity/plastikman/interview.nov94


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[313] Drexciya etc....

2002-06-24 Thread james boylan

Appeared to have touched a few nerves in my comments about Drexicya...

Of course its not all about innovation etc...I like a good tune as much as 
anyone...I just think that Drexciya (amongst some others) are ahead of the 
pack because they try to extend their sound a bit.  More of a defense of 
'Harnessed the Storm' than a critique of techno


Speaking of great electro, 313ers should check out the new 12 by Irish act 
Decal on Satamile (at least I think that's the name of the label).



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Re: [313] Mr C essential mix

2002-06-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Include me in that request as well - although I can only use CD/tape
formats - thanks!

ME




   
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anybody manage to get a recording of this last night - ? sounded good but
my
aging denon tape deck let me down after about 30 mins.

if anyone got it, i'd be interested in a copy (CD/tape/mp3/whatever).

hit me back off list,

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Re: [313] Sonar/John Tejada

2002-06-24 Thread Mediadrome

In a message dated 6/21/02 2:42:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Maybe this is on a tangent, but what exactly would people consider to be
tech-house anyway?  My personal impression of Tejada at DEMF was that his 
sound
would fall under that label, this has always been a curious term however.  I
would be interested to know what sound Mr. Tyreer would consider to be
tech-house as opposed to John Tejada's sound, for example.   

I just got through listening to daydreams in cold weather by Tejada and it 
reminds me a lot of Larry Heard's work,  who's early stuff used to be called  
acid house. 
 
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[313] Theo Parrish + M. Pittman / Trackmode

2002-06-24 Thread Matthew MacQueen
Over the weekend I picked up a copy of the Essential Selections Vol. 2 on 
Trackmode... (Theo Parrish  Marsellus Pittman)... deep and groovy.  
Incidentally, who *is* Marsellus Pittman? Any solo work? anyway good stuff... I 
was a big fan of their collaboration on Vol. 1 on Sound Signature (esp. 
selectors theme) so it's great to see this pair in action again.  Also, I 
don't have the record in front of me but I THINK I saw a third name in the 
credits I didn't immediately recognize.  Anyone know ? 

I think the cat. number is Trackmode 40 (can you believe they are up to FORTY?? 
 Seems like only yesterday... ha ha).   Since I missed out on a lot of these, 
what do 313'ers consider like the absolute must-have Trackmode records?  Top 3 
or 5... 

Also finally found a decent used copy of Nick Straker Band little bit of jazz 
on Prelude from '81... what a wicked tune, heard it before but never had my own 
copy, I shoulda owned this one a long time ago.  And staying in a housier mood, 
but fast forward, oh, 21 years or so: a new male vocal house track called 
Saturday Night by Blake on Ideal... but bought it for the Joshua Dub version 
(the Joshua of Prescription/Balance fame) on the B-side... cracking.  That 
said, I actually like the vocal version too, unique vocal sound -- it's catchy, 
check it out.  I got a feeling this one is gonna be big - just a theory - who 
knows.  :)

Another question: how does the Andres record on Moods  Grooves compare to his 
releases on KDJ?  Didn't have a chance to listen but plan to later... what to 
expect?

peace,
Matt

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[313] Ghostly International 2002 Summer Tour

2002-06-24 Thread Rob

Ghostly International 2002: Idol Tryouts Tour

Ann Arbor label, Ghostly International, goes on its first tour.  Madness
and pandemonium ensues.

Featuring:
Dabrye (aka Tadd Mullinix) (Ghostly, Eastern Developments)
Midwest Product (Ghostly)
Matthew Dear (Ghostly, Plus 8)
Dykehouse (Planet Mu, Ghostly)

Select artists for each city.  Updates periodically at www.ghostly.com

Monday, July 8th - Boston
Bar 608

Tuesday, July 9th - DC
Black Cat
(Electric Circus)

Wednesday, July 10th - NYC
Filter 14
(Static)

Saturday, July 13th - Lansing
Temple

Tuesday, July 16th - Seattle
Nation

Wednesday, July 17th - San Francisco
Amnesia
(Trouble)

Friday, July 19th - LA
The Echo

Friday, July 26th - Ann Arbor
Blind Pig


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Thank you,

Ghostly



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2002-06-24 Thread yussel
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