Re: (313) Listmember's sites

[James Bucknell]

while on the subject...i'm looking for a new host for my site. any
suggestions for a cheap host that allows downloads of mp3s?
james



> From: diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:23:13 -0800 (PST)
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) Listmember's sites
> 
> 
> Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
> included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
> programming and creative work going on amongst
> members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)
> 
> Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
> site, might I suggest you check it out during an
> 'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
> nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
> (there's your 313).
> 
> http://www.11235813.com/
> 
> any others?
> 
> d
> 
> __
> Do you Yahoo!?
> U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
> http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
> 

Re: (313) Here We Go Again

[Mxyzptlk]

At 08:39 AM 11/13/2002, Rob Theakston wrote:



Picked up the Mahogani 12" (which is pure Kenny all the way through) AND the
new Theo Parrish Mix CD "Contemporhythms".
Anyone heard this yet? It's probably my favorite of the bunch, tying with
Live in Detroit '99.



Yes...I grabbed this at Record Time last week. Great stuff.

Re: (313) Listmember's sites

[Arne Weinberg]

Me too (see below);-)

Cheers, Arne

-- 
°°°
  www.arneweinberg.de   
  STARBABY Rec.   
  DOWN LOW MUSIC 
  NATIVE Rec. 
  KEYNOTE Rec.  (ex-Ground Zero Rec.)
°°°

"Brian 'balistic' Prince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> dp> any others?
> 
> As if I don't pimp mine enough (see below)
> 
> -
> Brian "balistic" Prince
> http://www.bprince.com - art and techno
> Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon.
> 
> 

Re: (313) Recloose - Ain't Changin'

[Berislav Oremus]

> Hats off to Recloose. I dropped this track Saturday night in Windsor for
the
> 1st time and everyone loved it - maybe not as much as I did however.


played also on saturday, craig`s remix of ain changin, and was suprised that
people can really enjoy this tune as much as i can... one of my favourits
this year..

b.

RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Grammenos, Peter]

what i didn't like about it is the $13 red bull vodkas ! geez .



-Original Message-
From: ::) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:29 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org; Donna Gardner
Subject: Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly


its a neat looking club.  GREAT sound.  my gripe is how the dance floor is
in the middle and that tends to discourange some people

if you havent gone, you should.

-Joe


- Original Message -
From: "Donna Gardner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly


> It was originally a bank. Does that make a difference.
>
> At 04:09 PM 11/13/2002, you wrote:
> >On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Alexandres Lugo wrote:
> >
> > > Funny you should mention it's a converted McDonald's..so is Panacea
here in
> > > Detroit, but it's nice!
> > >
> > > Peace,
> > > Alex
> > > www.fulcruminn.net
> >
> >whoa.  panacea is a MCDONALDS  i haven't been there yet, and because
> >of that i didn't make a comment...but from pictures it certainly seemed
> >like a cool blue type of spot.
> >
> >damn.  a mickeydees.  you've got to be kidding me.
> >
> >lks
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[::\)]

its a neat looking club.  GREAT sound.  my gripe is how the dance floor is
in the middle and that tends to discourange some people

if you havent gone, you should.

-Joe


- Original Message -
From: "Donna Gardner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly


> It was originally a bank. Does that make a difference.
>
> At 04:09 PM 11/13/2002, you wrote:
> >On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Alexandres Lugo wrote:
> >
> > > Funny you should mention it's a converted McDonald's..so is Panacea
here in
> > > Detroit, but it's nice!
> > >
> > > Peace,
> > > Alex
> > > www.fulcruminn.net
> >
> >whoa.  panacea is a MCDONALDS  i haven't been there yet, and because
> >of that i didn't make a comment...but from pictures it certainly seemed
> >like a cool blue type of spot.
> >
> >damn.  a mickeydees.  you've got to be kidding me.
> >
> >lks
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Drew Daugherty]

Which club is this?  I moved to Minneapolis about a year ago and haven't
found any good ones yet save the occasional night at the Quest. I guess
I am more concerned about the music than the actual physical space ;-).
  Does anyone know of any clubs in the twin cities where *real* techno
can be heard?

-drew

Alexandres Lugo wrote:
> Funny you should mention it's a converted McDonald's..so is Panacea 
here in

> Detroit, but it's nice!
>
> Peace,
> Alex
> www.fulcruminn.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:39 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly
>
>
> So there is this new club in Mpls I went to check out because 
Tuesdays are

> supposed to be techno (remember we have very few that more than just
> meatmarket sports bars) and at first I thought it could be decent but 
soon

> realized all the things that were wrong with it.
>
> The good things:
>
> It's big and very open
> The bass hits you when you walk in the door (though they could use more)
> the layout is interesting (this is both good and bad)
> there is a second floor that overlooks the dancefloor
> decent dancefloor light system
> nice big windows up front
> central downtown location - on busline and right next to new light rail
> system being built - more parking available than any other club in 
the city

> $5 to get in
>
>
> The bad:
>
> First of all - it's a converted McDonald's restaurant (I swear I went 
home

> with the smell of cigarettes and french fries in my clothes).
> They've left the original stone tile floor for the entire place - 
including

> the dance floor.
> No defined dance space - meaning you walk right into this big open 
space as

> soon as you walk into the building.
> Very cold atmosphere - all the stone tile on walls and floor.
> Brass rails.
> green plants.
> way too bright - you can see people all the way across the room - no dark
> corners
> only one place to lounge - in a corner upstairs and only enough for 2,
> maybe 3 people
> 2 pool tables with those billiard room lamps (green shades and more 
brass)

>
> the ugly:
> the Dj booth was under the stairs around the corner from the dancefloor -
> impossible to monitor what is going on
> trance and progressive house and no techno - one decent house tune the
> entire night
>
> I'm curious about places that make it to your personal list of good 
or bad

> clubs - not the music so much but the actual physical space
> what is it about the club?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

RE: (313) Listmember's sites

[Grammenos, Peter]

Verizon is horrible, there's a list of irate subscribers trying to 
sue them. It took them 3 months to get it installed and then i ran
a trace route to see how many hops it took just to get out of their
networks.. it was > 15 !!! Speakeasy guarantees you're out of their networks
by 2. Suffice it to say , the connection is much much faster.

-p

-Original Message-
From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:21 PM
To: Holly MacDonald-Korth; Grammenos, Peter; Christian Bloch;
313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Listmember's sites


Actually my current DSL provider, Verizon, doesn't even give you the option 
to purchase a static IP. I have heard great things about Speakeasy but 
Verizon wouldn't let anyone else touch the phone wires in my apartment.

Obviously if your DSL provider allows you to have a static IP you can have
one.

At 03:07 PM 11/13/2002 -0700, Holly MacDonald-Korth wrote:
>I am pretty sure he meant if you did not purchase a static ip from your 
>DSL provider, then it will change on and off. This is true. Most DSL 
>providers will let you purchase a static IP for additional cost. 
>Otherwise, the default is usually dynamic...
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:05 PM
>To: 'Eric Scuccimarra'; Christian Bloch; 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (313) Listmember's sites
>
>
>
>Not true about DSL. I have a static IP via my provider, speakeasy.net.
>
>-Pete
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:57 PM
>To: Christian Bloch; 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites
>
>
>Most cable modems have dynamic IPs but for all intents and purposes the IPs
>are static. When I had cable a few years back the IP address didn't change
>for the entire 2 years.
>
>If you want to check your IP address I have a page that does that at
>www.skooch.com/IPFinder.cfm
>
>DSL on the other hand is truly dynamic. Even if you leave the machine on 24
>hours a day it sometimes will disconnect from the server and reconnect with
>a new IP.
>
>Just my experiences...
>
>At 04:45 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, Christian Bloch wrote:
> >i use earthlink cable and am hosting my own site (
> >http://christianbloch.com ) - my network i.p. is dynamic, but if i check
it
> >at www.whatismyip.com it always comes up the same... for some reason it
> >changed once though, but i just changed my settings and i was back
>online...
> >
> >Christian Bloch
> >http://christianbloch.com
> >http://mp3.com/bloch
> >http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm
> >
> >Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple
> >Muzik/Funque Droppings
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "logic7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:34 PM
> >Subject: RE: (313) Listmember's sites
> >
> >
> > > (kinda OT) Anyone ever used a dynamic dns type app/service? I need
> >something
> > > like that so I can host my new site myself with my current cable
service
> >(I
> > > refuse to buy a business DSL line)
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:24 PM
> > > To: diana potts; 313@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites
> > >
> > >
> > > My newly redesigned and still as yet incomplete site is
www.skooch.com.
> > > Still need some more content and pictures and such but the basic site
is
> >in
> > > place.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > At 01:23 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, diana potts wrote:
> > >
> > > >  Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
> > > >included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
> > > >programming and creative work going on amongst
> > > >members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)
> > > >
> > > >  Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
> > > >site, might I suggest you check it out during an
> > > >'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
> > > >nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
> > > >(there's your 313).
> > > >
> > > >http://www.11235813.com/
> > > >
> > > >any others?
> > > >
> > > >d
> > > >
> > > >__
> > > >Do you Yahoo!?
> > > >U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
> > > >http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
> > >
> > >

RE: (313) Listmember's sites

[Eric Scuccimarra]

Actually my current DSL provider, Verizon, doesn't even give you the option 
to purchase a static IP. I have heard great things about Speakeasy but 
Verizon wouldn't let anyone else touch the phone wires in my apartment.


Obviously if your DSL provider allows you to have a static IP you can have one.

At 03:07 PM 11/13/2002 -0700, Holly MacDonald-Korth wrote:
I am pretty sure he meant if you did not purchase a static ip from your 
DSL provider, then it will change on and off. This is true. Most DSL 
providers will let you purchase a static IP for additional cost. 
Otherwise, the default is usually dynamic...


-Original Message-
From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:05 PM
To: 'Eric Scuccimarra'; Christian Bloch; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Listmember's sites



Not true about DSL. I have a static IP via my provider, speakeasy.net.

-Pete

-Original Message-
From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:57 PM
To: Christian Bloch; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites


Most cable modems have dynamic IPs but for all intents and purposes the IPs
are static. When I had cable a few years back the IP address didn't change
for the entire 2 years.

If you want to check your IP address I have a page that does that at
www.skooch.com/IPFinder.cfm

DSL on the other hand is truly dynamic. Even if you leave the machine on 24
hours a day it sometimes will disconnect from the server and reconnect with
a new IP.

Just my experiences...

At 04:45 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, Christian Bloch wrote:
>i use earthlink cable and am hosting my own site (
>http://christianbloch.com ) - my network i.p. is dynamic, but if i check it
>at www.whatismyip.com it always comes up the same... for some reason it
>changed once though, but i just changed my settings and i was back
online...
>
>Christian Bloch
>http://christianbloch.com
>http://mp3.com/bloch
>http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm
>
>Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple
>Muzik/Funque Droppings
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "logic7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <313@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:34 PM
>Subject: RE: (313) Listmember's sites
>
>
> > (kinda OT) Anyone ever used a dynamic dns type app/service? I need
>something
> > like that so I can host my new site myself with my current cable service
>(I
> > refuse to buy a business DSL line)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:24 PM
> > To: diana potts; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites
> >
> >
> > My newly redesigned and still as yet incomplete site is www.skooch.com.
> > Still need some more content and pictures and such but the basic site is
>in
> > place.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > At 01:23 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, diana potts wrote:
> >
> > >  Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
> > >included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
> > >programming and creative work going on amongst
> > >members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)
> > >
> > >  Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
> > >site, might I suggest you check it out during an
> > >'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
> > >nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
> > >(there's your 313).
> > >
> > >http://www.11235813.com/
> > >
> > >any others?
> > >
> > >d
> > >
> > >__
> > >Do you Yahoo!?
> > >U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
> > >http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
> >
> >

(313) From: Jason Hogans <[EMAIL PROTECTED] h.net> Subject:

[Cyclone Wehner]

>> In the future he wants to be less in the spotlight as a rapper and eventually
>> do more production... I guess there's a Detroit style emerging...
>
> I'd say that a Detroit style of hip hop has been around for a minute, not
> necessarily mainstream though. T

There's a couple
> of other Detroit hip hop flavours running around, but they aren't as
> pervasive within the community - and in my opinion they suck.

Interesting. I kinda put Slum Village on their own.

I have some stuff I still have to play that I got in Detroit but that dark
style seems to be associated with Eminem, D12, Proof and Dogmatic and
Sicknotes and some others, and they seem partial to rock too. I didn't care
for it at first but Em's work is getting more boom to it. I hate that tinny
synth sound in some gangsta rap, I dig the booming bass, powerful beats,
myself.

Incidentally Xzibit grew up in Detroit and left at 10.

Snoop Dogg's dad is from Detroit.

Betcha didn't know that.

RE: (313) Listmember's sites

[Holly MacDonald-Korth]

I am pretty sure he meant if you did not purchase a static ip from your DSL 
provider, then it will change on and off. This is true. Most DSL providers will 
let you purchase a static IP for additional cost. Otherwise, the default is 
usually dynamic...

-Original Message-
From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:05 PM
To: 'Eric Scuccimarra'; Christian Bloch; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Listmember's sites



Not true about DSL. I have a static IP via my provider, speakeasy.net.

-Pete

-Original Message-
From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:57 PM
To: Christian Bloch; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites


Most cable modems have dynamic IPs but for all intents and purposes the IPs 
are static. When I had cable a few years back the IP address didn't change 
for the entire 2 years.

If you want to check your IP address I have a page that does that at 
www.skooch.com/IPFinder.cfm

DSL on the other hand is truly dynamic. Even if you leave the machine on 24 
hours a day it sometimes will disconnect from the server and reconnect with 
a new IP.

Just my experiences...

At 04:45 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, Christian Bloch wrote:
>i use earthlink cable and am hosting my own site (
>http://christianbloch.com ) - my network i.p. is dynamic, but if i check it
>at www.whatismyip.com it always comes up the same... for some reason it
>changed once though, but i just changed my settings and i was back
online...
>
>Christian Bloch
>http://christianbloch.com
>http://mp3.com/bloch
>http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm
>
>Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple
>Muzik/Funque Droppings
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "logic7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <313@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:34 PM
>Subject: RE: (313) Listmember's sites
>
>
> > (kinda OT) Anyone ever used a dynamic dns type app/service? I need
>something
> > like that so I can host my new site myself with my current cable service
>(I
> > refuse to buy a business DSL line)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:24 PM
> > To: diana potts; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites
> >
> >
> > My newly redesigned and still as yet incomplete site is www.skooch.com.
> > Still need some more content and pictures and such but the basic site is
>in
> > place.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > At 01:23 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, diana potts wrote:
> >
> > >  Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
> > >included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
> > >programming and creative work going on amongst
> > >members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)
> > >
> > >  Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
> > >site, might I suggest you check it out during an
> > >'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
> > >nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
> > >(there's your 313).
> > >
> > >http://www.11235813.com/
> > >
> > >any others?
> > >
> > >d
> > >
> > >__
> > >Do you Yahoo!?
> > >U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
> > >http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
> >
> >

RE: (313) Listmember's sites

[Grammenos, Peter]

Not true about DSL. I have a static IP via my provider, speakeasy.net.

-Pete

-Original Message-
From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:57 PM
To: Christian Bloch; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites


Most cable modems have dynamic IPs but for all intents and purposes the IPs 
are static. When I had cable a few years back the IP address didn't change 
for the entire 2 years.

If you want to check your IP address I have a page that does that at 
www.skooch.com/IPFinder.cfm

DSL on the other hand is truly dynamic. Even if you leave the machine on 24 
hours a day it sometimes will disconnect from the server and reconnect with 
a new IP.

Just my experiences...

At 04:45 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, Christian Bloch wrote:
>i use earthlink cable and am hosting my own site (
>http://christianbloch.com ) - my network i.p. is dynamic, but if i check it
>at www.whatismyip.com it always comes up the same... for some reason it
>changed once though, but i just changed my settings and i was back
online...
>
>Christian Bloch
>http://christianbloch.com
>http://mp3.com/bloch
>http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm
>
>Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple
>Muzik/Funque Droppings
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "logic7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <313@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:34 PM
>Subject: RE: (313) Listmember's sites
>
>
> > (kinda OT) Anyone ever used a dynamic dns type app/service? I need
>something
> > like that so I can host my new site myself with my current cable service
>(I
> > refuse to buy a business DSL line)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:24 PM
> > To: diana potts; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites
> >
> >
> > My newly redesigned and still as yet incomplete site is www.skooch.com.
> > Still need some more content and pictures and such but the basic site is
>in
> > place.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > At 01:23 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, diana potts wrote:
> >
> > >  Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
> > >included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
> > >programming and creative work going on amongst
> > >members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)
> > >
> > >  Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
> > >site, might I suggest you check it out during an
> > >'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
> > >nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
> > >(there's your 313).
> > >
> > >http://www.11235813.com/
> > >
> > >any others?
> > >
> > >d
> > >
> > >__
> > >Do you Yahoo!?
> > >U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
> > >http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
> >
> >

Re: (313) Listmember's sites

[Eric Scuccimarra]

Most cable modems have dynamic IPs but for all intents and purposes the IPs 
are static. When I had cable a few years back the IP address didn't change 
for the entire 2 years.


If you want to check your IP address I have a page that does that at 
www.skooch.com/IPFinder.cfm


DSL on the other hand is truly dynamic. Even if you leave the machine on 24 
hours a day it sometimes will disconnect from the server and reconnect with 
a new IP.


Just my experiences...

At 04:45 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, Christian Bloch wrote:

i use earthlink cable and am hosting my own site (
http://christianbloch.com ) - my network i.p. is dynamic, but if i check it
at www.whatismyip.com it always comes up the same... for some reason it
changed once though, but i just changed my settings and i was back online...

Christian Bloch
http://christianbloch.com
http://mp3.com/bloch
http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm

Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple
Muzik/Funque Droppings


- Original Message -
From: "logic7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Listmember's sites


> (kinda OT) Anyone ever used a dynamic dns type app/service? I need
something
> like that so I can host my new site myself with my current cable service
(I
> refuse to buy a business DSL line)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:24 PM
> To: diana potts; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites
>
>
> My newly redesigned and still as yet incomplete site is www.skooch.com.
> Still need some more content and pictures and such but the basic site is
in
> place.
>
> Eric
>
> At 01:23 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, diana potts wrote:
>
> >  Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
> >included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
> >programming and creative work going on amongst
> >members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)
> >
> >  Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
> >site, might I suggest you check it out during an
> >'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
> >nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
> >(there's your 313).
> >
> >http://www.11235813.com/
> >
> >any others?
> >
> >d
> >
> >__
> >Do you Yahoo!?
> >U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
> >http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
>
>

RE: (313) Listmember's sites

[Eric Scuccimarra]

http://www.dyndns.com/

At 04:34 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, logic7 wrote:

(kinda OT) Anyone ever used a dynamic dns type app/service? I need something
like that so I can host my new site myself with my current cable service (I
refuse to buy a business DSL line)

-Original Message-
From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:24 PM
To: diana potts; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites


My newly redesigned and still as yet incomplete site is www.skooch.com.
Still need some more content and pictures and such but the basic site is in
place.

Eric

At 01:23 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, diana potts wrote:

>  Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
>included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
>programming and creative work going on amongst
>members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)
>
>  Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
>site, might I suggest you check it out during an
>'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
>nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
>(there's your 313).
>
>http://www.11235813.com/
>
>any others?
>
>d
>
>__
>Do you Yahoo!?
>U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
>http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

Re: (313) Listmember's sites

[Christian Bloch]

i use earthlink cable and am hosting my own site (
http://christianbloch.com ) - my network i.p. is dynamic, but if i check it
at www.whatismyip.com it always comes up the same... for some reason it
changed once though, but i just changed my settings and i was back online...

Christian Bloch
http://christianbloch.com
http://mp3.com/bloch
http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm

Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple
Muzik/Funque Droppings


- Original Message -
From: "logic7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Listmember's sites


> (kinda OT) Anyone ever used a dynamic dns type app/service? I need
something
> like that so I can host my new site myself with my current cable service
(I
> refuse to buy a business DSL line)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:24 PM
> To: diana potts; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites
>
>
> My newly redesigned and still as yet incomplete site is www.skooch.com.
> Still need some more content and pictures and such but the basic site is
in
> place.
>
> Eric
>
> At 01:23 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, diana potts wrote:
>
> >  Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
> >included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
> >programming and creative work going on amongst
> >members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)
> >
> >  Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
> >site, might I suggest you check it out during an
> >'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
> >nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
> >(there's your 313).
> >
> >http://www.11235813.com/
> >
> >any others?
> >
> >d
> >
> >__
> >Do you Yahoo!?
> >U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
> >http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
>
>

RE: (313) Listmember's sites

[Patrick Wacher]

http://www.southernoutpost.com

-Original Message-
From: Elliot Taub [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 8:34 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites


mine is www.scatalogics.com

its mostly NYC based info about my occaisional events, my bio, top 10, etc.
Yawn.

e


Scatalogics
3240 46th ST #2B
Astoria, NY 11103

www.scatalogics.com

> From: diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:23:13 -0800 (PST)
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) Listmember's sites
> 
> 
> Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
> included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
> programming and creative work going on amongst
> members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)
> 
> Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
> site, might I suggest you check it out during an
> 'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
> nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
> (there's your 313).
> 
> http://www.11235813.com/
> 
> any others?
> 
> d
> 
> __
> Do you Yahoo!?
> U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
> http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

RE: (313) Listmember's sites

[logic7]

(kinda OT) Anyone ever used a dynamic dns type app/service? I need something
like that so I can host my new site myself with my current cable service (I
refuse to buy a business DSL line)

-Original Message-
From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:24 PM
To: diana potts; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Listmember's sites


My newly redesigned and still as yet incomplete site is www.skooch.com.
Still need some more content and pictures and such but the basic site is in
place.

Eric

At 01:23 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, diana potts wrote:

>  Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
>included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
>programming and creative work going on amongst
>members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)
>
>  Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
>site, might I suggest you check it out during an
>'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
>nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
>(there's your 313).
>
>http://www.11235813.com/
>
>any others?
>
>d
>
>__
>Do you Yahoo!?
>U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
>http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Patrick Wacher]

... and before that it was originally an undeveloped forested plain teaming
with wildlife.

;)
Patrick.

-Original Message-
From: Donna Gardner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 8:27 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly


It was originally a bank. Does that make a difference.

At 04:09 PM 11/13/2002, you wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Alexandres Lugo wrote:
>
> > Funny you should mention it's a converted McDonald's..so is Panacea here
in
> > Detroit, but it's nice!
> >
> > Peace,
> > Alex
> > www.fulcruminn.net
>
>whoa.  panacea is a MCDONALDS  i haven't been there yet, and because
>of that i didn't make a comment...but from pictures it certainly seemed
>like a cool blue type of spot.
>
>damn.  a mickeydees.  you've got to be kidding me.
>
>lks

Re: (313) Listmember's sites

[Elliot Taub]

mine is www.scatalogics.com

its mostly NYC based info about my occaisional events, my bio, top 10, etc.
Yawn.

e


Scatalogics
3240 46th ST #2B
Astoria, NY 11103

www.scatalogics.com

> From: diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:23:13 -0800 (PST)
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) Listmember's sites
> 
> 
> Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
> included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
> programming and creative work going on amongst
> members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)
> 
> Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
> site, might I suggest you check it out during an
> 'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
> nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
> (there's your 313).
> 
> http://www.11235813.com/
> 
> any others?
> 
> d
> 
> __
> Do you Yahoo!?
> U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
> http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

Re: (313) Listmember's sites

[Brian 'balistic' Prince]

dp> any others?

As if I don't pimp mine enough (see below)

-
Brian "balistic" Prince
http://www.bprince.com - art and techno
Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon.

Re: (313) Listmember's sites

[Eric Scuccimarra]

My newly redesigned and still as yet incomplete site is www.skooch.com. 
Still need some more content and pictures and such but the basic site is in 
place.


Eric

At 01:23 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, diana potts wrote:


 Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
programming and creative work going on amongst
members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)

 Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
site, might I suggest you check it out during an
'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
(there's your 313).

http://www.11235813.com/

any others?

d

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RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Donna Gardner]

It was originally a bank. Does that make a difference.

At 04:09 PM 11/13/2002, you wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Alexandres Lugo wrote:

> Funny you should mention it's a converted McDonald's..so is Panacea here in
> Detroit, but it's nice!
>
> Peace,
> Alex
> www.fulcruminn.net

whoa.  panacea is a MCDONALDS  i haven't been there yet, and because
of that i didn't make a comment...but from pictures it certainly seemed
like a cool blue type of spot.

damn.  a mickeydees.  you've got to be kidding me.

lks

(313) Listmember's sites

[diana potts]

 Most of the ppl on here are "technies" (me not
included) so there's, IMHO, some really good
programming and creative work going on amongst
members.(I do check out ppl's sites in their sig)

 Anyhow, if you've skipped over this listmember's
site, might I suggest you check it out during an
'attention span shortage' moment at work. From the
nose down he's a dead ringer for Matthew Hawtin
(there's your 313).

http://www.11235813.com/

any others?

d

__
Do you Yahoo!?
U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos
http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Lester Kenyatta Spence]

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Alexandres Lugo wrote:

> Funny you should mention it's a converted McDonald's..so is Panacea here in
> Detroit, but it's nice!
>
> Peace,
> Alex
> www.fulcruminn.net

whoa.  panacea is a MCDONALDS  i haven't been there yet, and because
of that i didn't make a comment...but from pictures it certainly seemed
like a cool blue type of spot.

damn.  a mickeydees.  you've got to be kidding me.

lks

Re: (313) 8-Mile

[sean deason]

oh yeah I have that record/bootleg. it has a "one more time" electro mix on
the flipside.

I especially like the Lil Kim track which samples "French Kiss" sampling
that track was way overdue!

sean
- Original Message -
From: "Tristan Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "FC2 Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile


> - Original Message -
> From: "FC2 Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Ian Dinsmor'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sean Creen"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:28 AM
> Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile
>
>
> > right...looking for samples i bet...I have heard alot of slum village
> stuff
> > that I thought came from techno or house or something of the sort.  I am
> > just horrible at placing them...
>
>
> Yeah. They bit Daft Punk's 'Veridis Quo' (from the 2nd album) and I'm
pretty
> sure they swiped something else pretty house/techno too. Can't recall at
the
> moment. I remember hearing the Daft Punk thievery in a Jan Jelinek
> betalounge set and crapping myself. It's the one that has the chorus
'Where
> You At, Uh Huh' IIRC.
>
> Tristan
> =
> Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com
> Music: http://www.mp313.com
> Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for
> a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
>
>
>

Re: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?

[atomly]

[Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> What the hell is macrobiotic?  In London, all we eat is pie and mash
> and fish and chips!  Seriously though - I would like to know

It's a philosophy of life that started in Japan... Here are the basic
tennets:

Consume organically and locally-grown foods in season as they become
available, or foods that will store without artificial preservation or
refrigeration. Alternatively, eat foods grown in the same latitude.

Consume primarily cooked whole grains, and recipes made from whole
grains, plus cooked vegetables, secondarily in quantity, adjusting
proportions and preparation methods according to activity, climate and
seasonal fluctuations of temperature and humidity.

Use solar-evaporated sea water salts in preparation of foods, as well as
traditionally-aged miso and shoyu, umeboshi and seaweeds. Drink undyed,
3-year old roasted twig tea (kukicha) as preferred beverage.

Use unrefined, cold-pressed seed oils sparingly, made from
organically-grown seeds, like sesame, corn, safflower, sunflower,
flaxseed, etc.

Use roasted seeds and nuts, fruit, salads and fish occasionally as
desired, in smaller quantities, as provided in season.

Use beans and bean products frequently, as primary sources of protein,
along with whole grain and vegetable dishes.

Avoid all foods and beverages containing refined sweeteners, chemical
dyes, synthetic flavorings or seasonings, refined oils, chemical
preservatives, or made from foods grown with chemical insecticides,
herbicides, fungicides, chemical fertilizers, or produced by
bio-engineering or grown under hot-house conditions.

Avoid foods grown in, and shipped from, warmer latitudes.

Avoid "soft" (carbonated, sweetened) beverages, canned goods, alcoholic
beverages, artificial sweeteners or products containing these
ingredients.

Chew each mouthful thoroughly before swallowing.

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(313) even more eminem

[sean deason]

speaking of eminem: I just found out the other day: my sister is in the
Eminem "lose yourself" video! so you see, Em and I are practically related!
She was also in a D12 video a while back. But, I dont like to talk about it.
hows that for a techno connection?  :^)

seaninem

(313) Recloose - Ain't Changin'

[dj revolver]

Hats off to Recloose. I dropped this track Saturday night in Windsor for the 
1st time and everyone loved it - maybe not as much as I did however.





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RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Alexandres Lugo]

Funny you should mention it's a converted McDonald's..so is Panacea here in
Detroit, but it's nice!

Peace,
Alex
www.fulcruminn.net


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:39 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly


So there is this new club in Mpls I went to check out because Tuesdays are
supposed to be techno (remember we have very few that more than just
meatmarket sports bars) and at first I thought it could be decent but soon
realized all the things that were wrong with it.

The good things:

It's big and very open
The bass hits you when you walk in the door (though they could use more)
the layout is interesting (this is both good and bad)
there is a second floor that overlooks the dancefloor
decent dancefloor light system
nice big windows up front
central downtown location - on busline and right next to new light rail
system being built - more parking available than any other club in the city
$5 to get in


The bad:

First of all - it's a converted McDonald's restaurant (I swear I went home
with the smell of cigarettes and french fries in my clothes).
They've left the original stone tile floor for the entire place - including
the dance floor.
No defined dance space - meaning you walk right into this big open space as
soon as you walk into the building.
Very cold atmosphere - all the stone tile on walls and floor.
Brass rails.
green plants.
way too bright - you can see people all the way across the room - no dark
corners
only one place to lounge - in a corner upstairs and only enough for 2,
maybe 3 people
2 pool tables with those billiard room lamps (green shades and more brass)

the ugly:
the Dj booth was under the stairs around the corner from the dancefloor -
impossible to monitor what is going on
trance and progressive house and no techno - one decent house tune the
entire night

I'm curious about places that make it to your personal list of good or bad
clubs - not the music so much but the actual physical space
what is it about the club?

RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Neil Wallace]

Interestingly in my interview for my job I got asked I ever went to
pure!

:-Original Message-
:From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:35 PM
:To: 313@hyperreal.org
:Subject: Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly
:
:Yeah! And proper dark too. I preferred the simple basement and ground
floor
:set up. I haven't been for years but there used to be a wee raised bit
in
:the middle of the ground level dancefloor and it'd be well dangerous
when
:it
:was pitch dark. Pure @ the Venue back then set up high hopes for life
in me
:that are rarely matched.
:
:> The Venue in Edinburgh - its dark, its sweaty, the bogs are
:> useless, the sound systenm is some random stacks of speakers
:> but what more could you ask of a techno club :) somehow the
:> fact that its the only place in edinburgh to see the likes of
:> jeff mills, dave clarke, dj funk, derrick may, mark farina
:> etc means that its pretty rocking and somehow the mankiness
:> kind of suits the tunes!
:
:

Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Jonny McIntosh]

Yeah! And proper dark too. I preferred the simple basement and ground floor
set up. I haven't been for years but there used to be a wee raised bit in
the middle of the ground level dancefloor and it'd be well dangerous when it
was pitch dark. Pure @ the Venue back then set up high hopes for life in me
that are rarely matched.

> The Venue in Edinburgh - its dark, its sweaty, the bogs are
> useless, the sound systenm is some random stacks of speakers
> but what more could you ask of a techno club :) somehow the
> fact that its the only place in edinburgh to see the likes of
> jeff mills, dave clarke, dj funk, derrick may, mark farina
> etc means that its pretty rocking and somehow the mankiness
> kind of suits the tunes!

Fwd: RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[- BT -]

I agree with the Venue in Edinburgh - I have only been through a couple of 
times for Pure when it used to be there. I liked the way they opened the 
door at the top of the stairs to let some air in but didnt let you hang 
about there for obvious reasons.


Also, when Pure used to do their extravaganzas in the Barrowland in Glasgow 
(particularly the new years nights). I remember one night, I think it was 
the last one they did and there were about 100 people in a place with about 
3000 capacity and Carl Craig was playing a live set???


But my favourite has to be Club 69 in Paisley - the Rub-A-Dub crew always 
put on a good night, good people, good atmosphere and no hassle. Although it 
sometimes gets a wee bit hit (like the last UR night there)



And the Sub Club in Glasgow - which should be reopening in the next month or 
so after burning down 3 years ago. I cant wait to see what its like. Hope 
they havnt ruined it.



Cheers
BT




would that be defined as a McClub then ?
When you requested a tune did the DJ ask if you wanted fries
with it ?

hehe sorry the concept of a McD's turned club is just too funny :]

back on topic err fave clubs:

The Venue in Edinburgh - its dark, its sweaty, the bogs are
useless, the sound systenm is some random stacks of speakers
but what more could you ask of a techno club :) somehow the
fact that its the only place in edinburgh to see the likes of
jeff mills, dave clarke, dj funk, derrick may, mark farina
etc means that its pretty rocking and somehow the mankiness
kind of suits the tunes!

Im yet to find somewhere however that satisfies all my
comfort requirements in terms of space, chill out areas,
hassle free policy etc

peace,
Marc

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Re: (313) name that tune

[Jonny McIntosh]

My reasons for not owning a mobile are slipping away beneath me. First the
"Under Mi Sleng Teng" ring tone and now this...

> That Shazam works on mad rare soul records, like real obscure stuff.
>
> Haven't tried any techno though.

Re: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)

[nicole]

-Original Message-
From: Nicole Slavin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
Date: 13 November 2002 18:04
Subject: Re: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)


>
>> I think rave is now  seen primarily as an embarrassing
>>word that parents and authority figures use to decribe something that the
>>kids get up to.
>
>Nope, the kids i teach use it all the time to describe the parties they go
>to, which play music along the lines of pop/garage/rnb.
>
>
>>Now that large scale raves are happening in the US, it seems that the word
>>has had something of a renaissance, but only in the US.
>
>when i was in the US seemed to be pretty much used to describe anything
with
>two or more people with a glowstick in tow.
>But then again, some US 313ers called me a raver for wearing coloured
>hairclips and bracelets! :)
>
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: glyph1001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:45 PM
>>Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)
>>
>>
>>I will have to agree with robin here and I'm from the US.  I read this
>>article in an old DJ Magazine that talked about "The Summer of Love"
>>and there was a part where someone would say (I'm paraphrasing here)
>>"you gonna rave? or have you raved yet?" which meant taking a hit of e
>>and going to a party and "rave" like mad.  Indeed the Acid House and
>>Rave are one of the same. \ I suggest doing some research at the mag's
>>website.
>>
>>
>>
>>robin pinning wrote:
>>
>>The rave scene started over there, as their answer to our Hip-Hop
>scene.
>>
>>
>don't think that is truethe rave scene developed out of the
northern
>soul scene (from what i've read)...original rave music was acid house
>>(the
>other key ingredient to raves was the rapid take up of ecstacy at the
>>same
>time)
>
>
I don't agree that the Acid House Scene was the Rave Scene.  I think it
>>was definetly
"proto-rave", but I don't feel RAVE happened until after the Acid House
>>Raids in 1989, and
1/2 the promoters went underground into the warehouses.  That is when
the
>>culture grew, and
it wasn't just a random occurence of club-rebellion.


>>>
>>>hmmm we'll agree to disagree... :)
>>>
>>>rave was defo happening around 88's summer of love (see the national
>>>newspaper headlines!!), this was quite a bit before hardcore happened
>>>which was 89/90 ->
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hence all the
>>dancehall and "street" influences in the original Rave Music:
Hardcore.
>>
>>
>that came later...
>
>
nah, Hardcore started in 1987, with Lennie de Ice's "We Are I.E.", and
>the
>>early SUAD
releases.


>>>
>>>SUAD started in 1989 (i have a few of their releases, froma round the
>>>time) and i'm failry sure "we are ie" came out in 89 too (what a tune
btw)
>>>
>>>
>>>cheers
>>>
>>>robin...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[jdmorse]

who remembers the sardine bar? i always wondered if a dj ever dicthed down 
the ladder climbing up or down from the dj platform... 




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i think with a couple of exceptions (that don't readily come to mind) my
taste in club design is a lot like my fashion taste.  two types entice me: 


1.  very spare.  no glaring ads.  open space.  cubes to dance on top of,
or sit on.  hardwood floors.  small juice bar.  high ceilings.  clean. 


the club that really nailed this down for me was the music institute.  the
johanson gallery is really barebones too.
 


Duh! How could I forget this? Johanson Gallery rocks for its simplicity, and
I love unlit dancefloors. It brings the focus on the music so completely. 


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Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[nicole]

>I have to give massive props to Plastic People in London here.
>The sound system is really good now, the vibe is mostly friendly,
>the people are there for the music and are really up for it.
>Seldom you meet someone in there with an attitude problem.
>Anyway.. PP is currently my favourite venue here.
>Cheers,

Agreed! They have a really sound music policy and respect what their dj
guests want to play rather than being dictatorial, which always means fun
for everyone and a better vibe. Recent nights with Carl Craig, Francois K
and the Three Chairs night, to name just some.
Also, no lights on the dance floor. So it's dark.. but not
too dingey.

>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:27 PM
>> To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly
>>
>>
>> For (I think) pretty obvious reasons, most of the best venues
>> tend to be
>> overun with a clientelle that makes them less desirable to go
>> to. But, if
>> we're just talking about the space itself, these are 4 of my
>> favorites (3
>> big, one small):

RE: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)

[Robert Taylor]

Really? I stand corrected.
Clearly, I'm not as "down with the kids" as I thought I was!

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> I think rave is now  seen primarily as an embarrassing
>word that parents and authority figures use to decribe something that the
>kids get up to.

Nope, the kids i teach use it all the time to describe the parties they go
to, which play music along the lines of pop/garage/rnb.


>Now that large scale raves are happening in the US, it seems that the word
>has had something of a renaissance, but only in the US.

when i was in the US seemed to be pretty much used to describe anything with
two or more people with a glowstick in tow.
But then again, some US 313ers called me a raver for wearing coloured
hairclips and bracelets! :)



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>Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)
>
>
>I will have to agree with robin here and I'm from the US.  I read this
>article in an old DJ Magazine that talked about "The Summer of Love"
>and there was a part where someone would say (I'm paraphrasing here)
>"you gonna rave? or have you raved yet?" which meant taking a hit of e
>and going to a party and "rave" like mad.  Indeed the Acid House and
>Rave are one of the same. \ I suggest doing some research at the mag's
>website.
>
>
>
>robin pinning wrote:
>
>The rave scene started over there, as their answer to our Hip-Hop
scene.
>
>
don't think that is truethe rave scene developed out of the northern
soul scene (from what i've read)...original rave music was acid house
>(the
other key ingredient to raves was the rapid take up of ecstacy at the
>same
time)


>>>I don't agree that the Acid House Scene was the Rave Scene.  I think it
>was definetly
>>>"proto-rave", but I don't feel RAVE happened until after the Acid House
>Raids in 1989, and
>>>1/2 the promoters went underground into the warehouses.  That is when the
>culture grew, and
>>>it wasn't just a random occurence of club-rebellion.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>hmmm we'll agree to disagree... :)
>>
>>rave was defo happening around 88's summer of love (see the national
>>newspaper headlines!!), this was quite a bit before hardcore happened
>>which was 89/90 ->
>>
>>
>>
> Hence all the
>dancehall and "street" influences in the original Rave Music: Hardcore.
>
>
that came later...


>>>nah, Hardcore started in 1987, with Lennie de Ice's "We Are I.E.", and
the
>early SUAD
>>>releases.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>SUAD started in 1989 (i have a few of their releases, froma round the
>>time) and i'm failry sure "we are ie" came out in 89 too (what a tune btw)
>>
>>
>>cheers
>>
>>robin...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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(313) techno radio show 1pm est

[plaztikjezuz]

my weekly radio show is airing at 1pm est.

there is a minimal mix, an acid mix, an electro mix, and some good tracks.
the mixes were compiled by me.

www.channelzonline.org

enjoy

scotto
lansing, mi

if you are interested in submitting a mix hit me up and I can give the details.

Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Tristan Watkins]

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> I have to give massive props to Plastic People in London here.
> The sound system is really good now, the vibe is mostly friendly,
> the people are there for the music and are really up for it.
> Seldom you meet someone in there with an attitude problem.
> Anyway.. PP is currently my favourite venue here.


Err, yeah. This one too. :) Easilly my favorite venue here. It also has a
mostly unlit dancfloor.

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(313) name that tune

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RE: (313) name that tune mobile service !

[Langsman, Marc]

do you have to pay if it doesnt guess the track ? That would make it quite a
good challenge !

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> 
> 
> I've tried this out and it's pretty impressive.
> It correctly IDed Octave One's Untold and LFO's LFO.
> It IDed Mills' Axis 9b as just "Axis".
> It IDed Final Frontier as Laurent Garnier's Destination 
> Planet Dream but
> this was the name of the X-Mix he did a while back for K7, 
> which featured
> said track.
> It didn't ID Dexter's Echo Park though.
> Not bad, eh? 
> It does cost 50p a track however.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: (313) name that tune mobile service !
> 
> 
> 
> Someone sent me this link today :
> 
> http://www.shazam.com
> 
> Its UK only but basically u dial a number and play 30secs of 
> a tune down the
> phone and they txt you back the artist / track !
> 
> I might try playing some ghettotech promos and random 313 
> stuff down the
> phone tonight ;) 
> 
> peace,
> Marc
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RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Stang Anya]

I have to give massive props to Plastic People in London here.
The sound system is really good now, the vibe is mostly friendly,
the people are there for the music and are really up for it.
Seldom you meet someone in there with an attitude problem.
Anyway.. PP is currently my favourite venue here.
Cheers,

Anya

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> 
> For (I think) pretty obvious reasons, most of the best venues 
> tend to be
> overun with a clientelle that makes them less desirable to go 
> to. But, if
> we're just talking about the space itself, these are 4 of my 
> favorites (3
> big, one small):

RE: (313) name that tune mobile service !

[Robert Taylor]

I've tried this out and it's pretty impressive.
It correctly IDed Octave One's Untold and LFO's LFO.
It IDed Mills' Axis 9b as just "Axis".
It IDed Final Frontier as Laurent Garnier's Destination Planet Dream but
this was the name of the X-Mix he did a while back for K7, which featured
said track.
It didn't ID Dexter's Echo Park though.
Not bad, eh? 
It does cost 50p a track however.

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Subject: (313) name that tune mobile service !



Someone sent me this link today :

http://www.shazam.com

Its UK only but basically u dial a number and play 30secs of a tune down the
phone and they txt you back the artist / track !

I might try playing some ghettotech promos and random 313 stuff down the
phone tonight ;) 

peace,
Marc


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Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Tristan Watkins]

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> i think with a couple of exceptions (that don't readily come to mind) my
> taste in club design is a lot like my fashion taste.  two types entice me:
>
> 1.  very spare.  no glaring ads.  open space.  cubes to dance on top of,
> or sit on.  hardwood floors.  small juice bar.  high ceilings.  clean.
>
> the club that really nailed this down for me was the music institute.  the
> johanson gallery is really barebones too.


Duh! How could I forget this? Johanson Gallery rocks for its simplicity, and
I love unlit dancefloors. It brings the focus on the music so completely.

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RE: (313) name that tune mobile service !

[Langsman, Marc]

Ive just noticed the following clause on their site:

What type of music does it work with?
Shazam has almost every song available, apart from vinyl and classical
music. We are also adding more songs to our database every day.

..hmm I guess theres still 313 stuff thats made it onto cd - I might give
some purpose maker stuff a shot :)

peace,
Marc

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> To: '313@hyperreal.org'
> Subject: (313) name that tune mobile service !
> 
> 
> 
> Someone sent me this link today :
> 
> http://www.shazam.com
> 
> Its UK only but basically u dial a number and play 30secs of 
> a tune down the
> phone and they txt you back the artist / track !
> 
> I might try playing some ghettotech promos and random 313 
> stuff down the
> phone tonight ;) 
> 
> peace,
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Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Tristan Watkins]

For (I think) pretty obvious reasons, most of the best venues tend to be
overun with a clientelle that makes them less desirable to go to. But, if
we're just talking about the space itself, these are 4 of my favorites (3
big, one small):

The Limelight in NYC: I love the maze-like effect as you wander through the
back, and the main dancefloor is magnificent. It's just a beautiful space.
Sound there can be iffy at times, but generally I enjoy it.

Nation (former home of Buzz) in DC: The venue is so sick. The clientelle and
the music was often lacking. The front room, where they normally play drum
'n bass, has bars on either end with a circular DJ booth in the middle,
which works so well for drum 'n bass. I often took refuge here when the main
room was a dissapointment. The outdoor deck would usually feature house, or
something less mainstream (in DC anyway) than progtrance/dnb. I loved to
spend time out there in the Summer, especially when I first arrived in DC,
with the view of the capitol building, a good dancefloor vibe and amazing
weather. You have to love listening to house outdoors at night. The main
room is really impressive. I always thought the sound with a bit too
ecstacy-tweaked-crisp for me, and there were very few DJs I wanted to see in
there, and those I did want to see often dissapointed. Also, when the floor
is packed with drooling kids every weekend, you tend to find a different
space. But, it's impressive for the good design, and with a slightly
different EQing it would sound great in there.

The End in London: This sound system is so sick. I know some people who
don't like it but I think it depends who you see spinning on it, b/c they
have separate PA settings for all the regular performers. I like the setup
of the entire club. Clearly there are sometimes issues with the crowds
there, but the space itself rocks, purely because of the focus on the DJ and
the sound quality.

The Blue Room in DC: Pure class. It's small, lots of wood every where. Free
entry. Great selection of beer and some good food. Nice outdoor deck. Both
floors are smooshed full of people whenever they're open and eveyone is
always having a great time. The sound downstairs sucks. The sound upstairs
is too loud for the space. None of it matters because the people, the beauty
of the space, the beverages and the music always make it a great experience.
I would go there on my own a lot this Summer and wound up meeting tons of
people every time I went because I knew whoever I met at the Blue Room would
be cool. It's the right spot in the right part of DC, with the right music
to attract the best people.

You wouldn't think it to look at the first three, but I much prefer small
clubs.

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(313) name that tune mobile service !

[Langsman, Marc]

Someone sent me this link today :

http://www.shazam.com

Its UK only but basically u dial a number and play 30secs of a tune down the
phone and they txt you back the artist / track !

I might try playing some ghettotech promos and random 313 stuff down the
phone tonight ;) 

peace,
Marc

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Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Lester Kenyatta Spence]

i think with a couple of exceptions (that don't readily come to mind) my
taste in club design is a lot like my fashion taste.  two types entice me:

1.  very spare.  no glaring ads.  open space.  cubes to dance on top of,
or sit on.  hardwood floors.  small juice bar.  high ceilings.  clean.

the club that really nailed this down for me was the music institute.  the
johanson gallery is really barebones too.


2.  lush.  plush lounging area with couches, and loveseats.  paintings
adorning the walls.  colored lights to denote a warm tone.  lots of clingy
fabric.

there was a coffee bar in ann arbor that was used for parties--Not Just
Another Cafe i think.  gorgeous.  there's an old gothic church now club
here in st.  louis called THE KASTLE that tries to mix both 1 and 2 to
success.


peace
lks

Re: (313) ...more eminem, did we talk about the matter ofelite-models?

[Fabrizio Nahum]

Hear Hear

;-)
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ofelite-models?


> lets all talk about techno
>
> 1337,
> -Joe
>
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> ofelite-models?
>
>
> >
> > nah serious -
> >
> > did enjoy lots of postings last days -
> >
> > nice balance
> >
> > and was fine to see the elitism-thing reflected
> >
> > no complaints and nothing sensefull to add
> >
> > just some props for the postings
> >
> > best best
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> > out again
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>

Re: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Michael Lees]

The Venue in Edinburgh - its dark, its sweaty, the bogs are 
useless, the sound systenm is some random stacks of speakers 
but what more could you ask of a techno club :) somehow the 
fact that its the only place in edinburgh to see the likes of 
jeff mills, dave clarke, dj funk, derrick may, mark farina 
etc means that its pretty rocking and somehow the mankiness 
kind of suits the tunes!


Agreed, I did like the venue. Another place I liked in Edinburgh was la 
belle angel. Small with a hefty sound - sweat ridden stone walls. Sounds 
bad but you couldn't beat the atmosphere on some nights.
Something about clubs there, I think it's the fact they're all in old 
buildings.


--
Mike

RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Neil Wallace]

Yeah I really like venues like the venue & studio 24 in edinburgh - dark
and dingy - it means that most of the people are there to listen to the
music rather than be seen so you can avoid the trendy poseur set. And
while the PA in both these venues is nothing special its normally loud
enough to do the business.
I wouldn't go to a club with a dress code as a point of principle (even
if I fitted in with the code)

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:Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:13 PM
:To: '313@hyperreal.org'
:Subject: RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly
:
:would that be defined as a McClub then ?
:When you requested a tune did the DJ ask if you wanted fries
:with it ?
:
:hehe sorry the concept of a McD's turned club is just too funny :]
:
:back on topic err fave clubs:
:
:The Venue in Edinburgh - its dark, its sweaty, the bogs are
:useless, the sound systenm is some random stacks of speakers
:but what more could you ask of a techno club :) somehow the
:fact that its the only place in edinburgh to see the likes of
:jeff mills, dave clarke, dj funk, derrick may, mark farina
:etc means that its pretty rocking and somehow the mankiness
:kind of suits the tunes!
:
:Im yet to find somewhere however that satisfies all my
:comfort requirements in terms of space, chill out areas,
:hassle free policy etc
:
:peace,
:Marc
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Re: (313) ...more eminem, did we talk about the matter ofelite-models?

[::\)]

lets all talk about techno

1337,
-Joe

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To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert Taylor"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org" <313@hyperreal.org>
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Subject: Re: (313) ...more eminem, did we talk about the matter
ofelite-models?


>
> nah serious -
>
> did enjoy lots of postings last days -
>
> nice balance
>
> and was fine to see the elitism-thing reflected
>
> no complaints and nothing sensefull to add
>
> just some props for the postings
>
> best best
>
> out again
>

(313) Aril Brikha-tonite @ Foran's

[Derrick O]

Tonight:

A very special bump
 
live/dj set w/
 
Transmat Recording Artist
 
Aril Brikha Live 
(stockholm)

And 
Derrick (O) Ramirez on the ones and twos
 
Opening set by detroit bachelor dee jay
Derek Plaslaiko
 
w/resident 
 
Steve McQueen
 
612 Woodward Ave.
Detroit 
2 blocks n. of Jefferson
313-961-3043
 
Another $5 Bump nite
 

RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Langsman, Marc]

would that be defined as a McClub then ?
When you requested a tune did the DJ ask if you wanted fries 
with it ? 

hehe sorry the concept of a McD's turned club is just too funny :]
 
back on topic err fave clubs:

The Venue in Edinburgh - its dark, its sweaty, the bogs are 
useless, the sound systenm is some random stacks of speakers 
but what more could you ask of a techno club :) somehow the 
fact that its the only place in edinburgh to see the likes of 
jeff mills, dave clarke, dj funk, derrick may, mark farina 
etc means that its pretty rocking and somehow the mankiness 
kind of suits the tunes!

Im yet to find somewhere however that satisfies all my 
comfort requirements in terms of space, chill out areas, 
hassle free policy etc 

peace,
Marc 

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(313) Sean Deason - The Sh*t Kit

[Tristan Watkins]

Well, since everyone else is just throwing there's out there, I'll add mine
to the pile: http://www.mp313.com/phonopsia/TheShitKit.mp3

It bears very little resemblance to the original, except that all the sounds
came from the samples Sean privided, cut, loaded into Battery and destroyed.

Someone asked where the samples were again the other day, so here ya go:
http://home.mchsi.com/~chaircrusher/

Tristan
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New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for
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(313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

So there is this new club in Mpls I went to check out because Tuesdays are
supposed to be techno (remember we have very few that more than just
meatmarket sports bars) and at first I thought it could be decent but soon
realized all the things that were wrong with it.

The good things:

It's big and very open
The bass hits you when you walk in the door (though they could use more)
the layout is interesting (this is both good and bad)
there is a second floor that overlooks the dancefloor
decent dancefloor light system
nice big windows up front
central downtown location - on busline and right next to new light rail
system being built - more parking available than any other club in the city
$5 to get in


The bad:

First of all - it's a converted McDonald's restaurant (I swear I went home
with the smell of cigarettes and french fries in my clothes).
They've left the original stone tile floor for the entire place - including
the dance floor.
No defined dance space - meaning you walk right into this big open space as
soon as you walk into the building.
Very cold atmosphere - all the stone tile on walls and floor.
Brass rails.
green plants.
way too bright - you can see people all the way across the room - no dark
corners
only one place to lounge - in a corner upstairs and only enough for 2,
maybe 3 people
2 pool tables with those billiard room lamps (green shades and more brass)

the ugly:
the Dj booth was under the stairs around the corner from the dancefloor -
impossible to monitor what is going on
trance and progressive house and no techno - one decent house tune the
entire night

I'm curious about places that make it to your personal list of good or bad
clubs - not the music so much but the actual physical space
what is it about the club?

Re: (313) Betalounge track id - Ulysess, Kenny Larkin, Sean Deason @ Allegory & Metphor NYC

[Elliot Taub]

James is right. I remember, that was at the end of my set, when Kenny was
showing me how to use the effects box at Centro Fly... ;)

I love that track, though. Its my favorite Rob Hood song. I should dig it
out again.

Its too bad the realaudio transfer was all wacky, it gets a bit distracting.
Plus, my mixing got all sloppy at the end of that set... ;p
  
e


Scatalogics
3240 46th ST #2B
Astoria, NY 11103

www.scatalogics.com

> From: James Bucknell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:23:58 -0500
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: Re: (313) Betalounge track id - Ulysess, Kenny Larkin, Sean Deason @
> Allegory & Metphor NYC
> 
> that's rob hood 'red passion 2' on duet.
> beautiful track.
> james
> 
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:13:14 -0600
>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: (313) Betalounge track id - Ulysess, Kenny Larkin, Sean Deason @
>> Allegory & Metphor NYC
>> 
>> @ 1:18:49
>> 
>> http://www.betalounge.com/stuff/allegory8-25-00.ram
>> 
>> slamming set!
>> 
>> I'm sure I'll have more tracks to id as I listen to this
>> 
>> thanks
>> MEK
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

Re: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)

[Lester Kenyatta Spence]

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, James Bucknell wrote:

> there isn't much crossover in the birthplace of hip hop in the south
> bronx/upper manhattan. when i'd go to the police athletics league gym on
> 118st and manhattan ave. any house, electro or techno cds i put on promptly
> got thrown off and replaced by hot 97 (bringing you blazin hip hop). i
> declined to dj at our block party because it was patently obvious that
> nobody was interested in hearing anything but hip hop (and the electric
> slide, of course). but block parties are a genre of their own.
> james

I don't know if I'd expect cross over there though.  The Black east coast,
for reasons I don't completely understand, has always looked to hiphop as
its dance music of choice.  Not house (exception perhaps being the
hip-house craze), not techno.  Much more diversity in spots like detroit
and chicago, largely because they'd created musics of their own that were
played alongside of hiphop.

peace
lks

RE: (313) Re: [313] Hip-hop & Techno

[Matthew Mangold]

More precisely, that sample is from Tracks on the Rocks vol. 2, which was
credited to Bangalter alone, not with his Daft Punk partner, Guy Manuel De
Homem-Christo. I also heard a rumor that as a result of sampling the tune,
Bangalter requested Jay Dee's assistance on a future work, rather than
imposing a lawsuit for royalties.

Matthew

-Original Message-
From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:16 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Re: [313] Hip-hop & Techno

jay dee also used a daft punk sample on 'raise it up' from 'fantastic volume
2'. the story behind this was, that he picked up a white label copy of that
album, and figured it was some obscure techno band, so people probably would
never find out where the sample came from.
daft punk heard 'raise it up', and immediately spotted the sample. jay dee
was then asked for a remix of one of their songs.

(313) RE: how about some more vegan food? as we get REALLY OT

[Collin McKinney]

seems none of you have made the trek out to the VEGGIE CASTLE yet

it's as good for food as the filthy record basement is for records.

"The War For Disco Truth Has Begun" -  Bobby O.

RE: (313) Here We Go Again

[Sean Creen]

I need to listen to Contemporhythms again, but on first listen I found it a
little bit weak. It gets a lot better towards the end, but I didn't think it
was near the standard of the 2 These Days and Times CDs
Having said that, I'll probably love it this time next week.

Sean.

-Original Message-
From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 November 2002 14:40
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Here We Go Again




Picked up the Mahogani 12" (which is pure Kenny all the way through) AND the
new Theo Parrish Mix CD "Contemporhythms".
Anyone heard this yet? It's probably my favorite of the bunch, tying with
Live in Detroit '99.

rt

Re: (313) ...more eminem, did we talk about the matter of elite-models?

[Neontsetse]

nah serious -

did enjoy lots of postings last days -

nice balance 

and was fine to see the elitism-thing reflected

no complaints and nothing sensefull to add

just some props for the postings

best best 

out again 

Re: (313) ...more eminem, did we talk about the matter of elite-models?

[Neontsetse]

could all of you please come back to the topic: Eminem :) 

RE: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?

[Odeluga, Ken]

Don't forget the kebabs as part of a healthy balanced diet, innit!

k

>-Original Message-
>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:46 PM
>To: 'Eric Scuccimarra'; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?
>
>
>What the hell is macrobiotic?
>In London, all we eat is pie and mash and fish and chips!
>Seriously though - I would like to know
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:40 PM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?
>
>
>Does anyone know any good macrobiotic places in Manhattan? I've been to
>Caravan of Dreams in the East Village which was OK...
>
>At 01:59 AM 11/13/2002 -0600, atomly wrote:
>>["Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>> > You can't be serious! Try kate's joint or Angelca's Kitchen then tell
>> > me it's still good. Geez.
>>
>>F both those places!  It's ALL ABOUT Vegetarian Paradise 2 (No relation
>>to vp1 or vp3) for vegan food in NYC.  There's also a place next door
>>owned by the same people but I can't remember the name.
>>
>>Seriously, though, the Soul Chicken at VP2 is the best thing ever.
>>
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RE: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?

[Eric Scuccimarra]

Someone else just asked me ths question and here is my reply:

Macrobiotic is between vegan and raw foods. It's more of an approach to 
what you eat than an actual diet. Most macrobiotic restaurants have raw 
food and vegan food. Macrobiotic means not eating anything processed or 
with additives, everything is organic, etc.


I'm actually not completely sure what it means, myself. Everyone seems to 
have a different definition. It seems to involve both eating organic food, 
holistic medicine and a certain lifestyle.


I just know that I like the restaurants that call themselves macrobiotic.

Definitely not pie or mash or fish or chips.

At 02:45 PM 11/13/2002 +, Robert Taylor wrote:

What the hell is macrobiotic?
In London, all we eat is pie and mash and fish and chips!
Seriously though - I would like to know

-Original Message-
From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:40 PM
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Subject: Re: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?


Does anyone know any good macrobiotic places in Manhattan? I've been to
Caravan of Dreams in the East Village which was OK...

At 01:59 AM 11/13/2002 -0600, atomly wrote:
>["Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > You can't be serious! Try kate's joint or Angelca's Kitchen then tell
> > me it's still good. Geez.
>
>F both those places!  It's ALL ABOUT Vegetarian Paradise 2 (No relation
>to vp1 or vp3) for vegan food in NYC.  There's also a place next door
>owned by the same people but I can't remember the name.
>
>Seriously, though, the Soul Chicken at VP2 is the best thing ever.
>
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RE: (313) Here We Go Again

[Rob Theakston]

record time in roseville. i reckon ferndale has a few as well.

-Original Message-
From: Data General [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:46 AM
To: Rob Theakston
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Here We Go Again


where did you find the mahogani 12"/where is it currently available?


bentcrayon does not yet list it.


ben




On
Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Rob Theakston wrote:

>
>
> Picked up the Mahogani 12" (which is pure Kenny all the way through) AND
the
> new Theo Parrish Mix CD "Contemporhythms".
> Anyone heard this yet? It's probably my favorite of the bunch, tying with
> Live in Detroit '99.
>
> rt
>

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RE: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?

[Robert Taylor]

What the hell is macrobiotic?
In London, all we eat is pie and mash and fish and chips!
Seriously though - I would like to know

-Original Message-
From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:40 PM
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Subject: Re: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?


Does anyone know any good macrobiotic places in Manhattan? I've been to 
Caravan of Dreams in the East Village which was OK...

At 01:59 AM 11/13/2002 -0600, atomly wrote:
>["Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > You can't be serious! Try kate's joint or Angelca's Kitchen then tell
> > me it's still good. Geez.
>
>F both those places!  It's ALL ABOUT Vegetarian Paradise 2 (No relation
>to vp1 or vp3) for vegan food in NYC.  There's also a place next door
>owned by the same people but I can't remember the name.
>
>Seriously, though, the Soul Chicken at VP2 is the best thing ever.
>
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Re: (313) Here We Go Again

[Data General]

where did you find the mahogani 12"/where is it currently available?


bentcrayon does not yet list it.


ben




On
Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Rob Theakston wrote:

>
>
> Picked up the Mahogani 12" (which is pure Kenny all the way through) AND the
> new Theo Parrish Mix CD "Contemporhythms".
> Anyone heard this yet? It's probably my favorite of the bunch, tying with
> Live in Detroit '99.
>
> rt
>

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Re: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?

[Eric Scuccimarra]

Does anyone know any good macrobiotic places in Manhattan? I've been to 
Caravan of Dreams in the East Village which was OK...


At 01:59 AM 11/13/2002 -0600, atomly wrote:

["Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> You can't be serious! Try kate's joint or Angelca's Kitchen then tell
> me it's still good. Geez.

F both those places!  It's ALL ABOUT Vegetarian Paradise 2 (No relation
to vp1 or vp3) for vegan food in NYC.  There's also a place next door
owned by the same people but I can't remember the name.

Seriously, though, the Soul Chicken at VP2 is the best thing ever.

--
:: atomly ::

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[ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ...

(313) Here We Go Again

[Rob Theakston]

Picked up the Mahogani 12" (which is pure Kenny all the way through) AND the
new Theo Parrish Mix CD "Contemporhythms".
Anyone heard this yet? It's probably my favorite of the bunch, tying with
Live in Detroit '99.

rt

(313) Re: [313] Hip-hop & Techno

[jurren baars]

From: Ian Dinsmor:

I was working the other night, and in walks Jay Dee, only to ask for
Herbert's "Bodily Functions" LP.

Behold, the paths of hip hop and "techno" cross in ways.



as mentioned allready, there was a sample of that album used on the album 
'trinity'. the sample was even mentioned on the sleeve.


jay dee also used a daft punk sample on 'raise it up' from 'fantastic volume 
2'. the story behind this was, that he picked up a white label copy of that 
album, and figured it was some obscure techno band, so people probably would 
never find out where the sample came from.
daft punk heard 'raise it up', and immediately spotted the sample. jay dee 
was then asked for a remix of one of their songs.


ánd on 'trinity' there's another song that sounds A LOT like it's based on a 
sample from 'sharivari'.


anyone know how those shake hip-hop tracks are received within the hip-hop 
community? or that album on sublime, or those hipnotech releases?


jurren

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(313) Sean Deason - The Sh*t (Scott Vallance remix)

[scottvallance]

http://users.bigpond.net.au/ScottVallance/

Its a bit of a massacre but hey :) I think my free web hosting stops 
after 100MB has been served, so get in quick if your keen. 

ScottV.


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RE: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?

[elkay]

Agreed.  The place next door is called Red Bamboo, I think, and is vegan
soul food.

VP2 is in the west village, by the 3rd st. train stop.

> -Original Message-
> From: atomly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:00 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?
>
>
> ["Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > You can't be serious! Try kate's joint or Angelca's Kitchen then tell
> > me it's still good. Geez.
>
> F both those places!  It's ALL ABOUT Vegetarian Paradise 2 (No relation
> to vp1 or vp3) for vegan food in NYC.  There's also a place next door
> owned by the same people but I can't remember the name.
>
> Seriously, though, the Soul Chicken at VP2 is the best thing ever.
>
> --
> :: atomly ::
>
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> [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ...
>

RE: (313) Final Scratch mac Q

[Neil Wallace]

I don't think so as the pc version doesn't run in windows AFAIK but in
some sort of linux (which will be an i386 build and so wont work on a
mac)

:-Original Message-
:From: Kookie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:34 PM
:To: scotto; 313@hyperreal.org
:Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch mac Q
:
:If you have Mac X, it has the ability to emulate windows.  There is a
:decent
:chance that you could run final scratch through the emulation
capabilities.
:- Original Message -
:From: "scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:To: <313@hyperreal.org>
:Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:33 PM
:Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch mac Q
:
:
:> THAT SUX. I just bought a new mac laptop and I'm not getting a new
:windoze
:> machine ever if I can help it.
:> I seem to remember them saying somethng about this fall.
:> unix and lynix are not that different from my understanding.
:>
:> one question, for the lynix geeks, could you load lynix on to the mac
and
:> run FS?
:>
:> scotto
:> lansing, mi
:>
:> - Original Message -
:> From: "Darren Longton (Marketing)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:> To: "scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
:> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:01 PM
:> Subject: RE: (313) Final Scratch
:>
:>
:> From FinalScratch.com
:>
:> "Q) Will there be a Macintosh version of FinalScratch?
:>
:> A) We are currently developing a MAC OS X verison of Final Scratch.
There
:is
:> no release date or crossgrade process available yet."
:>
:>
:> -Original Message-
:> From: scotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:29 AM
:> To: 313@hyperreal.org
:> Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch
:>
:>
:> when the hell is the mac version coming out?
:>
:> scotto
:> lansing, mi
:>
:> - Original Message -
:> From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:> To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
:> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:47 AM
:> Subject: (313) Final Scratch
:>
:>
:> From my 'Business Development Specialist' source at Jands
Electronics...
:>
:> > Yup, the first stocks of C-Tick Australia Approved Final Scratch
units
:> have
:> > arrived and are in the process of being shipped out to Authorised
:Stanton
:> > Stockists. There are only very limited numbers of in this first
:shipment
:> so
:> > if you want to be one of the first Australian DJs to get your hands
on
:it,
:> > call your local Stanton stockist now.
:>
:>
:>
:>

RE: (313) Final Scratch mac Q

[Jeffrey Paul]

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, logic7 wrote:

> FS requires a true linux partition, not a virtual one, it adds a bootloader
> to the MBR so one can boot to either FS/Linux or Windows. It's not an
> embedded linux either, it's more like a mini distribution.

Not so.  FS 1.0 installs itself into a ~300MB c:\finalscratch\fsrun.img
which it then mounts as the root using the loopback driver from initrd.
It's just an image file, not it's own partition.

As for getting it to work on the mac, it's extremely unlikely it'd ever
work unless they released a mac version, which would be fairly easy for
them to do (assumming that the final scratch and recordboxing apps
themselves are fairly portable across architechtures).

i wouldn't hold my breath, though.

-j


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RE: (313) jaydee

[Jongsma, K.J.]

> is the hip hop producer jay dee the same one who produced "plastic 
> dreams" on R&S in the early 90's?

No the 'Plastic Dreams' Jaydee is a dutch guy Called Robin Albers who also
hosted a legendary dutch radio show called 'For those who like to groove'. 

The hiphop guy is from the US


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(313) jaydee

[Wojtek Kawalek]

is the hip hop producer jay dee the same one who produced "plastic 
dreams" on R&S in the early 90's?

RE: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)

[Robert Taylor]

Bit late in the day to throw in my 2 cents, but the way I understand it is
this: Rave is a term rarely in use these days in the UK, and then it is
usually just used as a verb, ie to go raving. Its use as a noun to describe
the large-scale semi-legal/illegal outdoor events that occurred in the late
80s/early 90s has largely dropped out of use in England because these events
don't really happen anymore (thanks to the Criminal Justice Bill), except as
large corporate sponsored events. It was also used to describe the music
played at some of these events, a sound that diversified into jungle and
happy hardcore. I think many people also used it to describe the more
commercial music that was coming out - tunes like Smart Es' Sesam-E Street
and Prodigy's Charly (incidentally Mills dropped this in his recent set at
The End in London). I think rave is now  seen primarily as an embarrassing
word that parents and authority figures use to decribe something that the
kids get up to.
Now that large scale raves are happening in the US, it seems that the word
has had something of a renaissance, but only in the US.

-Original Message-
From: glyph1001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:45 PM
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)


I will have to agree with robin here and I'm from the US.  I read this 
article in an old DJ Magazine that talked about "The Summer of Love" 
and there was a part where someone would say (I'm paraphrasing here) 
"you gonna rave? or have you raved yet?" which meant taking a hit of e 
and going to a party and "rave" like mad.  Indeed the Acid House and 
Rave are one of the same. \ I suggest doing some research at the mag's 
website.



robin pinning wrote:

The rave scene started over there, as their answer to our Hip-Hop scene.


>>>don't think that is truethe rave scene developed out of the northern
>>>soul scene (from what i've read)...original rave music was acid house
(the
>>>other key ingredient to raves was the rapid take up of ecstacy at the
same
>>>time)
>>>  
>>>
>>I don't agree that the Acid House Scene was the Rave Scene.  I think it
was definetly
>>"proto-rave", but I don't feel RAVE happened until after the Acid House
Raids in 1989, and
>>1/2 the promoters went underground into the warehouses.  That is when the
culture grew, and
>>it wasn't just a random occurence of club-rebellion.
>>
>>
>
>hmmm we'll agree to disagree... :)
>
>rave was defo happening around 88's summer of love (see the national
>newspaper headlines!!), this was quite a bit before hardcore happened
>which was 89/90 ->
>
>  
>
 Hence all the
dancehall and "street" influences in the original Rave Music: Hardcore.


>>>that came later...
>>>  
>>>
>>nah, Hardcore started in 1987, with Lennie de Ice's "We Are I.E.", and the
early SUAD
>>releases.
>>
>>
>
>SUAD started in 1989 (i have a few of their releases, froma round the
>time) and i'm failry sure "we are ie" came out in 89 too (what a tune btw)
>
>
>cheers
>
>robin...
>
>
>  
>



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FW: (313) Final Scratch mac Q

[Langsman, Marc]

 hmm dont see why not - there are reports the f/s can be run 
 with a normal distribution - my only concerne would be 
 drivers for the usb device, that would probs be the hangup 
 actually I imagine you'd need the source to be able to 
 compile them for powerpc platform.
 
 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: scotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 12 November 2002 19:34
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch mac Q
> > 
> > 
> > THAT SUX. I just bought a new mac laptop and I'm not getting 
> > a new windoze
> > machine ever if I can help it.
> > I seem to remember them saying somethng about this fall.
> > unix and lynix are not that different from my understanding.
> > 
> > one question, for the lynix geeks, could you load lynix on to 
> > the mac and
> > run FS?
> > 
> > scotto
> > lansing, mi
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Darren Longton (Marketing)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: (313) Final Scratch
> > 
> > 
> > From FinalScratch.com
> > 
> > "Q) Will there be a Macintosh version of FinalScratch?
> > 
> > A) We are currently developing a MAC OS X verison of Final 
> > Scratch. There is
> > no release date or crossgrade process available yet."
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: scotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:29 AM
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch
> > 
> > 
> > when the hell is the mac version coming out?
> > 
> > scotto
> > lansing, mi
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:47 AM
> > Subject: (313) Final Scratch
> > 
> > 
> > From my 'Business Development Specialist' source at Jands 
> > Electronics...
> > 
> > > Yup, the first stocks of C-Tick Australia Approved Final 
> > Scratch units
> > have
> > > arrived and are in the process of being shipped out to 
> > Authorised Stanton
> > > Stockists. There are only very limited numbers of in this 
> > first shipment
> > so
> > > if you want to be one of the first Australian DJs to get 
> > your hands on it,
> > > call your local Stanton stockist now.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

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RE: (313) Final Scratch mac Q

[Langsman, Marc]

nah m8 - read the f/s site forums ... f/s can be run as part of a normal
distro (slackware, redhat etc)

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 12 November 2002 20:04
> To: logic7; Kookie; scotto; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch mac Q
> 
> 
> not really.  it's not a matter of linux-to-PPC linux translation.  FS
> doesn't run on a full linux OS distribution.  it's embedded 
> linux, which is
> like saying an OS only capable of operating one app; it's not 
> a whole OS.
> windows must be present in order to install and run FS.  the 
> embedded linux
> app creates a virtual partition within windows inside of which all the
> FS/OS-level stuff takes place.
> 
> it's conceivably possible to run FS within Virtual PC on the 
> mac, but i
> doubt it would ever actually work.  just be patient and wait 
> for the mac
> version.  it'll be native OSX, rather than a linux/windows 
> work around, so
> when it finally comes out it should be very solid.
> 
> comb through the FS message boards on the stanton site.  
> there's tons of
> info about this.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "logic7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Kookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "scotto" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:51 AM
> Subject: RE: (313) Final Scratch mac Q
> 
> 
> > In theory, Final Scratch could simply be recompiled for PPC 
> versions of
> > Linux. Then it would work with changes to hardware specific 
> drivers and
> > whatnot.
> >
> > Will they do it? Dunno. It's possible, but not always done.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kookie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:34 PM
> > To: scotto; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch mac Q
> >
> >
> > If you have Mac X, it has the ability to emulate windows.  
> There is a
> decent
> > chance that you could run final scratch through the emulation
> capabilities.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch mac Q
> >
> >
> > > THAT SUX. I just bought a new mac laptop and I'm not getting a new
> windoze
> > > machine ever if I can help it.
> > > I seem to remember them saying somethng about this fall.
> > > unix and lynix are not that different from my understanding.
> > >
> > > one question, for the lynix geeks, could you load lynix 
> on to the mac
> and
> > > run FS?
> > >
> > > scotto
> > > lansing, mi
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Darren Longton (Marketing)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:01 PM
> > > Subject: RE: (313) Final Scratch
> > >
> > >
> > > From FinalScratch.com
> > >
> > > "Q) Will there be a Macintosh version of FinalScratch?
> > >
> > > A) We are currently developing a MAC OS X verison of 
> Final Scratch.
> There
> > is
> > > no release date or crossgrade process available yet."
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: scotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:29 AM
> > > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch
> > >
> > >
> > > when the hell is the mac version coming out?
> > >
> > > scotto
> > > lansing, mi
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:47 AM
> > > Subject: (313) Final Scratch
> > >
> > >
> > > From my 'Business Development Specialist' source at Jands 
> Electronics...
> > >
> > > > Yup, the first stocks of C-Tick Australia Approved 
> Final Scratch units
> > > have
> > > > arrived and are in the process of being shipped out to 
> Authorised
> > Stanton
> > > > Stockists. There are only very limited numbers of in this first
> shipment
> > > so
> > > > if you want to be one of the first Australian DJs to 
> get your hands on
> > it,
> > > > call your local Stanton stockist now.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> 
> 

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(313) Slum Village & Herbert / The D Sound?

[Jason Hogans]

> Hey they (Slum Village) already sample that (Bodily Functions) on the new
> album I'm told.

Confirmed! The song is called What Is This.

> In the future he wants to be less in the spotlight as a rapper and eventually
> do more production... I guess there's a Detroit style emerging...

I'd say that a Detroit style of hip hop has been around for a minute, not
necessarily mainstream though. Tainted by SV has probably made the biggest
splash on the airwaves, out of the stuff I'd say is D flavored. De La Soul's
Stakes Is High (produced by Jay Dee) enjoyed a tiny bit of radio play. D
flavor you ask?... Jazzy. Funky. Analog. Pretty Minimal. Not a lot of reverb
& what not. Plump, abbreviated kick drums. Exaggerated snares & claps sharp
enough to take your head off. Washy, filtered samples. Rhodes, lots of
Rhodes. Large & lively staccato basslines. Swinging, free flowing scat-like
vocals. Basically picking up where A Tribe Called Quest left off. I think of
Dabrye, Dwele, Wajeed, Lacksadaisycal, Jay, Subterraneous, SV, my buddies
greenSKY & Jazz, :brownstudy (yours truly!), and a some others I can't think
of for some annoying reason (sleep deprivation perhaps?). There's a couple
of other Detroit hip hop flavours running around, but they aren't as
pervasive within the community - and in my opinion they suck. The
aforementioned brand of head is open to some of the more adventurous
"techno" stuff (akin to their own aesthetic) - i.e., Herbert, Domu, Bjork,
Sutekh, blah, blah, blah... I must admit that you're less like likely to
find a head into more traditional techno fare like, ummm, something from the
Belleville three or UR maybe.  Okay, I really should got to sleep now. Boom
bip!>>>

JPH.

Re: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?

[atomly]

["Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> You can't be serious! Try kate's joint or Angelca's Kitchen then tell
> me it's still good. Geez.

F both those places!  It's ALL ABOUT Vegetarian Paradise 2 (No relation
to vp1 or vp3) for vegan food in NYC.  There's also a place next door
owned by the same people but I can't remember the name.

Seriously, though, the Soul Chicken at VP2 is the best thing ever.

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Re: (313) Betalounge track id - Ulysess, Kenny Larkin, Sean Deason @ Allegory & Metphor NYC

[James Bucknell]

that's rob hood 'red passion 2' on duet.
beautiful track.
james

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:13:14 -0600
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) Betalounge track id - Ulysess, Kenny Larkin, Sean Deason @
> Allegory & Metphor NYC
> 
> @ 1:18:49
> 
> http://www.betalounge.com/stuff/allegory8-25-00.ram
> 
> slamming set!
> 
> I'm sure I'll have more tracks to id as I listen to this
> 
> thanks
> MEK
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: (313) 8-Mile

[Tristan Watkins]

- Original Message -
From: "FC2 Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Ian Dinsmor'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sean Creen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:28 AM
Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile


> right...looking for samples i bet...I have heard alot of slum village
stuff
> that I thought came from techno or house or something of the sort.  I am
> just horrible at placing them...


Yeah. They bit Daft Punk's 'Veridis Quo' (from the 2nd album) and I'm pretty
sure they swiped something else pretty house/techno too. Can't recall at the
moment. I remember hearing the Daft Punk thievery in a Jan Jelinek
betalounge set and crapping myself. It's the one that has the chorus 'Where
You At, Uh Huh' IIRC.

Tristan
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RE: (313) 8-Mile

[FC2 Richards]

right...looking for samples i bet...I have heard alot of slum village stuff
that I thought came from techno or house or something of the sort.  I am
just horrible at placing them...

-Original Message-
From: Ian Dinsmor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:53 AM
To: Sean Creen; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile


Here's a curve ball for the list.

I was working the other night, and in walks Jay Dee, only to ask for
Herbert's "Bodily Functions" LP.

Behold, the paths of hip hop and "techno" cross in ways.


ID

> From: "Sean Creen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:48:58 -
> To: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313 Detroit"
> <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile
> 
> 
>> You forget that most hip-hop headz hate techno,
> 
> What are you basing that comment on? I'm not having a pop at you, its just
> that I've never found that to be the case at all!
> 
> Sean.
> 

(313) Betalounge track id - Ulysess, Kenny Larkin, Sean Deason @ Allegory & Metphor NYC

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

@ 1:18:49

http://www.betalounge.com/stuff/allegory8-25-00.ram

slamming set!

I'm sure I'll have more tracks to id as I listen to this

thanks
MEK

Re: (313) Re: how about some more vegan food? as we get REALLY OT

[James Bucknell]

hangawai is sublime. this is where margie and i had our final meal in new
york before moving to australia. that should tell you high i regard it.
james

> From: Elliot Taub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:49:57 -0500
> To: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: (313) Re: how about some more vegan food? as we get REALLY OT
> 
> Probably enough has been said about this, already, but just to help inform
> any vegan techno heads out there who make it to the Big Apple:
> 
> 1. Hangawai on 32nd St. b/w 5th and park is probably the only Korean
> Vegetarian restaurant, anywhere. Its also supposed to be amazingly good,
> though a bit expensive. I haven't been there, yet, though.
> 
> 2. Quintessence on 10th St B/W 2nd Ave and A is Raw Foodist (i.e. nothing is
> cooked at all). Went there with Mr. Todd "Planet E" Sines, himself. It was
> quite good, but I wanted to get a hot dog afterwards b/c I was still hungry.
> 
> And last, but not least:
> 
> 3. H&M Dairy Restuarant on 2nd Ave b/w 7th St and St. Mark's place. This is
> one of my favorite restaurants in New York. Its not Vegan, though, its an
> old-fashioned Kosher Dairy Restaurant: i.e. Milk, Fish, and Veggies. No Beef
> or Chicken.  Its cheap and very filling, even for a carnivore like myself...
> and I have a reputation for eating a lot.
> 
> As my grandmother used to say:
> "Eat! Eat! Its Good for you!"
> 
> e
> 
> 
> Scatalogics
> 3240 46th ST #2B
> Astoria, NY 11103
> 
> www.scatalogics.com
> 
>> From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:07 -0500
>> To: "'Elliot Taub'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: RE: how about some more vegan food? as we get REALLY OT
>> 
>> 
>> LOL! It's true i am a vegan poseur but i know what's good
>> and what's not regardless.. if u think kate's is bad then
>> i'de love to hear your opinion on Teany's. Bleh.
>> 
>> So mr. taub enlighten us on good vegan eats in nyc?!
>> 
>> Sorry for the OT folks, but food is just as important
>> as music for us ny'ers ;)
>> 
>> -p
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Elliot Taub [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:09 PM
>> To: Grammenos, Peter; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: how about some more vegan food? as we get REALLY OT
>> 
>> 
>> Pete! Kate's Joint sells sawdust, not food. You can't possibly like that
>> place! Its, in my opinion, the worst Veggie restaurant in NYC. Angelica's
>> Kitchen is alright. I haven't eaten at TeaNY.
>> 
>> Still, neither of us are Vegan, so we're used to the fats and flavors of
>> meat and milk. It probably distorts our recommendations to our Vegan
>> compatriots.
>> 
>> e
>> 
>> 
>> Scatalogics
>> 3240 46th ST #2B
>> Astoria, NY 11103
>> 
>> www.scatalogics.com
>> 
>>> From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:03:38 -0500
>>> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org
>>> Subject: RE: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You can't be serious! Try kate's joint or Angelca's Kitchen then
>>> tell me it's still good. Geez.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: e. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:04 PM
>>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>> Subject: RE: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> moby's restaurant  it's called "TeaNY" ... on rivington st b/w ludlow
>>> and orchard
>>> ...and may i add that it's actually quite good ... been there many times
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: (313) 8-Mile

[::\)]

ahh, right on.  
thx

- Original Message - 
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To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile


Sometime member of The Ummah, sometime member (and producer) of Slum 
Village. From Detroit.

> Inbox Message 
>
> From: "::\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile
> Date: 13/11/2002 11:08:02
> To: "Ian Dinsmor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sean Creen"
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> "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
>
> ok who the funk is jay dee
> ?
>
>

Re: (313) 8-Mile

[Cyclone Wehner]

Sometime member of The Ummah, sometime member (and producer) of Slum
Village. From Detroit.

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>
> From:  "::\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  Re: (313) 8-Mile
> Date:  13/11/2002 11:08:02
> To:  "Ian Dinsmor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sean Creen"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
>
> ok who the funk is jay dee
> ?
>
>

Re: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?

[James Bucknell]

what about the vegan bakery on 8th st and A? jeebers!
james

> From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:18:53 -0500
> To: 'Collin McKinney' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'313@hyperreal.org'"
> <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: RE: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?
> 
> 
> moby knows the importance of a good(?) vegan meal ... he opened up
> a vegan rest in the L.E.S right around the corner from his loft.
> i heard from a few people that the food is over-hyped and pretty bland.
> 
> 'you are what you eat' i suppose ;) ok enough cheap shots at moby.
> 
> as for todd's vegan pancackes, i tried making them this past weekend and
> have this one thing to say : make sure you don't overdue the cardomon and
> crush it well before adding it!
> 
> 
> -pete
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Collin McKinney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:53 AM
> To: '313@hyperreal.org'
> Subject: (313) ...enough eminem, how about some more vegan food?
> 
> 
> 
> Seriously, how can one properly enjoy a good bassline or some well
> programmed, shuffling percussion on an empty stomach?
> 
> "The War For Disco Truth Has Begun" -  Bobby O.
> 
> 

Re: (313) 8-Mile

[Cyclone Wehner]

Hey they already sample that on the new album I'm told.

> Inbox Message 
>
> From:  Ian Dinsmor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  Re: (313) 8-Mile
> Date:  13/11/2002 8:53:07
> To:  Sean Creen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Cyclone Wehner
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
>
> Here's a curve ball for the list.
>
> I was working the other night, and in walks Jay Dee, only to ask for
> Herbert's "Bodily Functions" LP.
>
> Behold, the paths of hip hop and "techno" cross in ways.
>
>
> ID

Re: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)

[James Bucknell]

there isn't much crossover in the birthplace of hip hop in the south
bronx/upper manhattan. when i'd go to the police athletics league gym on
118st and manhattan ave. any house, electro or techno cds i put on promptly
got thrown off and replaced by hot 97 (bringing you blazin hip hop). i
declined to dj at our block party because it was patently obvious that
nobody was interested in hearing anything but hip hop (and the electric
slide, of course). but block parties are a genre of their own.
james


> 
> 
>>> I know plenty of current hip hop fans who are also massively into techno.
>>> Its certainly not true to say that hating techno is an ingrained part of the
>>> culture, as was suggested in the original post.
>>> Also, we need to be clear here on whether were talking about B-boys or Puff
>>> Daddy fans...
>>> 
>>> Sean.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: (313) 8-Mile

[::\)]

ok who the funk is jay dee
?


- Original Message -
From: "Ian Dinsmor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sean Creen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cyclone Wehner"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile


> Here's a curve ball for the list.
>
> I was working the other night, and in walks Jay Dee, only to ask for
> Herbert's "Bodily Functions" LP.
>
> Behold, the paths of hip hop and "techno" cross in ways.
>
>
> ID
>
> > From: "Sean Creen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:48:58 -
> > To: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313 Detroit"
> > <313@hyperreal.org>
> > Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile
> >
> >
> >> You forget that most hip-hop headz hate techno,
> >
> > What are you basing that comment on? I'm not having a pop at you, its
just
> > that I've never found that to be the case at all!
> >
> > Sean.
> >
>