RE: (313) Another Level - ContaKT

2008-05-08 Thread Toby Frith
Something deep down tells me that they're having a laugh on this one. 

And that they will be doing that on the way to the bank.



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From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 May 2008 15:00
To: Odeluga, Ken
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Subject: Re: (313) Another Level - ContaKT


We're not sure, the party is still in progress, but it appears as if
it will devolve into a self-congratulatory orgy of black turtlenecks
and homoeroticism.  Magda filming.

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Was there a happy ending? I'm not so much into avant garde fiction
  myself 



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  ROFL!  nice one.

  On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:20 AM, theREALmxyzptlk
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   *Which* ones are the ceylons again?
And where's Starbuck?
  
  
   jeff
  
  
  
  
  
Martin Dust wrote:
  
You know how I've been defending Richie a bit, well christ knows
what the
   techno gods are going to make of this:
http://www.contakt-events.com/
   
But it made me laugh thinking about everyone kicking off.
   
hard-core techno crew to the roof, dirty protest required
   
m
   
   
  



  --
  peace,

  frank

  dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com




-- 
peace,

frank

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(313) DJ Stingray @ Bleep43

2008-05-06 Thread Toby Frith

http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show94.mp3

An hour of DJ Stingray from our most recent party.



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RE: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313

2008-05-06 Thread Toby Frith

His LP from last year was very good. I personally find his work with Harold 
Budd to be his best.



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He was certainly a guy who caught my attention at the time and I went on liking 
for time afterward.  I liked The Garden LP best I
think.  When I first saw Gary Newman on Top Of The Pops I thought hey, he 
looks like he's trying to rip off that other guy from a
few weeks back's style  ;-)


 From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 May 2008 15:57
 
 Has anyone seen John Foxx's recent live shows? He must be a
 significant influence on techno and electro but most of my geeky
 buddies don't know his work at all! I think Gary Numan gets more
 props. That actually would have been a good act to bill for the
 festival, but admittedly he's obscure for a wider audience. Metamatic
 was re-released last year I believe. 




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RE: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast

2008-05-02 Thread Toby Frith

That's the way it is though. Some places are good for that music, and you have 
to accept it. It's musical economics as it were. If you want to get noticed, go 
and live in a place where you will be heard. 

Jeff Mills is the best example of this.





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Hawtin RA Podcast


Yeah, true. If your talking about London, Berlin or other major cities
for electronic music. There you have enough people into it that you
can still do kind of niche things and find people who like the same
stuff as you. I'm talking about Copenhagen. It's really, really hard
here sometimes. Event though you try your hardest and do all the right
things with regards to promotion etc.

Some of the artists that have played to an empty club is pretty
mindbogling, ha ha.


2008/5/2 Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 2 May 2008, at 10:10, Matthew Dickinson wrote:


  I get what both of you are saying... but where I'm at it's REALLY
  frustrating that most people don't seem to have much personal taste
  but instead just follow the trends. It makes it hard to do something
  that's outside the norm or what you want to call it. Yeah, I know I'm
  wining a bit now, but sometimes, I get really pissed off. If it isn't
  Ricardo, Luciano, Richie, Sven etc. then it's just not interesting.
 

  But this has always been the case but I don't think it's as bad as it was,
 places like Fabric are putting on artists that wouldn't normally get a big
 gig and people are finding good blogs for their sources rather than just
 magazines. Moaning about people who like funky house or Clubland Nation
 10,000 is pretty pointless IHMO.

  I guess we just have to work harder to switch people on to stuff.

  m



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RE: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast

2008-05-02 Thread Toby Frith

If Hawtin had gone down the route of someone like Carl Cox or Paul van Dyk, 
then I would say that the vitriol directed at him would be worthwhile. The fact 
is that whilst his DJ sets are pretty dull, they're still, to someone who 
doesn't know the music at all, rather unusual and weird. To the trained ear of 
the 313 list members and others, yes, it's all a bit directionless, but it's 
still abstract. The fact that he can pack out big festivals and clubs is 
interesting - and ultimately I feel that there's still enough credit being 
paid, by proxy, to those who made this music at the same time. People getting 
into Hawtin will see his discography (that goes back a long way) and explore 
from there. 

It's easy to dismiss the whole minimal scene because it's laced with the 
unfortunate fashionista tag, but ultimately that's where the kinetic energy of 
dance music is right now. And those who are really interested in the music and 
its history will get into what inspired it. Basic Channel are utterly revered 
now, and you see Hood now getting the credit he deserves.

It takes time.



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On 2 May 2008, at 10:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 H, I'm talking more about the entire thing he's created in
 Berlin and his general, almost slavish, use of the newest
 gadget/technology.


Nah, Bowie and Eno did that stuff years before him, so he likes  
technology it's not really a big shocker, is it?

Bjork has had loads of focus for it, it doesn't write the tunes tho as  
her new album testifies.

I don't pick up on this slavish thing Jason to be honest but I do  
share a love for toys and have been torturing myself for months over  
the iPhone.

 Personally I find it extremelly difficult to
 market, do good artwork , press etc but that's only a small part of
 his activities anyway.
 This isn't a recent thing for me, I've been of a similar opinion since
 about 1994!

Fair enough but at the end of the day good music wins thru, regardless  
of all the fluff.



 Jason naive Brunton -(you obviously haven't met a lot of the
 customers we have who buy Minus material or you wouldn't have made
 that comment :)  )

The naive comment wasn't aimed at anyone, but I stand by it tho and  
yeah I buy Minus, I don't have a small beard, scarf or dress in bright  
colours :) God I feel like I'm confessing to something dirty!

m

PS. Have you seen your picture in DJ mag this month?


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RE: (313) Derrick May - @ BBC Radio 1Xtra Ministry Of Sound, April 19th 2008

2008-05-01 Thread Toby Frith

I was a bit nonplussed by this mix to be honest - lots of energy but no real 
outstanding records that made me think oh what's that?. I know it's different 
when you're in a club, especially a place like Ministry, where it's more likely 
DJs will go for tracky material or something more obvious.but this is 
Derrick we're talking about, not some vapid Euro techno DJ. Still an 
inclination for that clean tribal/defected sound as well. 









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April 19th 2008



On 28 Apr 2008, at 18:27, Martin Dust wrote:

 Here's a linky:
 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1F3F4V0P

Still loving Derrick's dj style. I guess he's still one of my  
favourite techno djs (my first post to this list was on this subject  
btw, waaay back when...I was [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the time...)

Anyway thanks for sharing Martin.


robin




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RE: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-29 Thread Toby Frith

Apparently Gerard's set will be released by Fabric on their Fabric First 
podcast if it gets the ok from him.



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Subject: Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric


 I've actually seen a couple reputable DJs to play an anemic hour of their 
 set before realizing the lows were killed at the mixer.

Ha! I accidentally did that for about five minutes of an Echospace tune (of 
all things) during the last set that I played. It's true that you won't 
often get a good feel for the bass levels out of monitors, but the 
monitoring on the stage at Fabric is usually pretty full and clear.

Tristan
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RE: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Toby Frith

I guess that was probably the case. The EQ'ing was all over the shop. Shame as 
it sounded so crisp for Convextion, if just a little too loud sometimes.



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On 28 Apr 2008, at 11:16, Robert Taylor wrote:

 I was pretty shocked, but all you heard was a distorted thud thud  
 thud,
 with all those lovely dubby chords almost completely lost in the mix.
 I don't know what they think they were doing cos they seemed to be
 loving it - pumping their fists like they were Fatboy Slim, or worst
 still, Peter Hook


Only thing I can think is that the DJ monitors had a better/correct  
feed than clubs PA, which isn't unheard of but I surprised someone  
didn't say something to them.

m


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(313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Toby Frith

A polarised affair at London's Fabric. Gerard was fantastic - mostly ERP style 
electro that sounded razorsharp on the soundsystem..some new bits and classics, 
although Vox Automaton was a bit short for some reason. Very happy to see him 
get a fantastic reaction as well.

Deepchord/Echospace was unmitigated sh*te. I'm sure Tristan will elucidate far 
more than I could, as he was fuming! The sound was muddy, so you couldn't hear 
the treble at all, but this was an hour of relentlessly dull dub techno with no 
variation or subtlety whatsoever, and a real shame because one of them (not mr 
Modell) was having the time of his life behind the laptop. A shame he couldn't 
obviously hear what sh*te we were hearing. 



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RE: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread

2008-04-23 Thread Toby Frith

I would suspect that once the likes of the Wire and Boomkat-deriven shops stop 
enthusing over it so wildly and let it run its course, the genre might actually 
become interesting, because it doesn't really deserve the fawning it receives 
right now. 

That's not to say there's nothing good in the genre, but the slavish drivel 
that is written about it by some people about it just puts me off. 





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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread


On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? Wouldn't 
 people call that
  dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think.

nah, that is 2-step. it really has no connection in beat patterns,
sound pallette, or feel to anything in the dubstep genre, it shares
many of those things with 2-step records though.

  When it comes to 'dubstep' I do not like it more or less than any other 
 music - I just like good
  music. When you say you don't like dubstep, do you have a particular sound 
 or artist in mind? Or
  do you literally not think much of a whole tranche of music much of which 
 you won't have heard? ;)

i like exactly none of it. most of it is either too angry, too boring,
or just ridiculous sounding. i guess i dont mind the original blood
on my hands by shackleton but its not good enough that i went out and
bought it. and that is only one track!

tom


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(313) ------Bleep43 this Friday : I-F, DJ Stingray, Kevin Reynolds and Placid --------------

2008-04-14 Thread Toby Frith

Just a quick remindera chance to see Detroit's DJ Stingray and Kevin 
Reynolds plus a rare appearance in thatLondon for 313 stalwart Placidand 
not forgetting I-F


BLEEP43

Fri 18th April @ Corsica Studios, London.

I-F
DJ Stingray
Kevin Reynolds (live)
Placid
Plant43 (live)
Datassette (live)
Orphan (live)
Dan Bean
AS
Cosmic COLIN

Check http://www.bleep43.com for further info.

£12 tickets from http://www.wegottickets.com/event/28082 and Phonica, Rough 
Trade East, Selectadisc and Sounds of the Universe


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RE: (313) Strand remix of Radiohead's Nude.

2008-04-14 Thread Toby Frith

Yeah Shake, get in on it!


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From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 April 2008 15:18
To: Brian Boyer
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Strand remix of Radiohead's Nude.


I think this is an elegant piece of work -- whether someone would like
it or not would depend on their feelings about Radiohead.  I'm a fan
so it's right up my alley.

I'd love to hear Shake do a Radiohead remix.  He used to play songs
from Kid A in his sets to great effect.

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Brian Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello everyone,

  We've submitted a mix for Radiohead's Nude remix contest.  It was an
 interesting exercise and a good way to expose Detroit influenced electronic
 music to people who might not otherwise know it exists. You can even vote
 for it, if you fancy. We mainly just wanted to let you know that we did it
 and Thom Yorke never sounded so funky. As always, don't be shy about
 expressing your thoughts and/or critiques. You can hear it at the following
 links:

  http://www.myspace.com/strand313
  http://www.radioheadremix.com/remix/?id=1510

  -boyer



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RE: (313) monolake

2008-04-08 Thread Toby Frith

PS Toby, what's the date of Kraftwerk playing a Fairfield Halls? 

21.9.75



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On 8 Apr 2008, at 11:50, Toby Frith wrote:
 Frustrating producer for me, in that his live performances have  
 failed to match what he's capable of on his releases. I love  
 Perpetuum and Excentri, and the Robert Henke Studies for  
 Thunder release is also excellent.

I think he's pretty good live and all that stuff in Ableton is midi as  
well, he's a brave man for sure :)

My Monolake picks would be Gravity and Interstate - both get loads of  
plays here,

m

PS Toby, what's the date of Kraftwerk playing a Fairfield Halls? 


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RE: (313) monolake

2008-04-08 Thread Toby Frith
Frustrating producer for me, in that his live performances have failed to match 
what he's capable of on his releases. I love Perpetuum and Excentri, and 
the Robert Henke Studies for Thunder release is also excellent.





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For more recent stuff I like the original of Alaska Melting which Arturo 
recommended the remix of: http://www.discogs.com/release/1074140 

My favourite all time Monolake track was one side of Fragile / Static from 
1999: http://www.discogs.com/release/864079
A couple of points on this one: yes I know music is timeless and a good track 
is a good track etc. but 10 years ago there were less records that sounded like 
one (and whether or not this makes me weak in the head I therefore found it 
more exciting).  Yes it was from the Basic Channel stable but the side of the 
record I'm talking about had a great slowed down, deep, icy feel to it.  At the 
time I wasn't sure how intentional that was; by which I mean I enjoyed it most 
at 33rpm but I wasn't sure if it was meant to be played that way - at 45 it 
sounded more like previous stuff plus the other side I was fairly sure was 45.  
However in looking the Discogs number up I notice it's listed there at 33 one 
side / 45 the other.  And he subsequently did more stuff that sounded the same 
(with no doubts on the speed) so I guess this was intentional by him and no 
discovery by me!  Either way it was a biggy for me at the time.


 From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 07 April 2008 21:31
 To: 313
 Subject: (313) monolake
 
 while i admire the dude's monodeck engineering skillz, i've found that
 what i've listened to by him has been painfully forgettable.
 
 yet, people consistently recommend him, so i'm curious... is there any
 monolake release that holds up to the relatively high standards we
 have on this list?


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RE: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?

2008-04-04 Thread Toby Frith

The fact that minimal techno is currently seen as hip can only be a good 
thing. 

More and more people are into labels like Chain Reaction, M-Plant and Basic 
Channel than ever before. That ultimately will lead them back to the Detroit 
originators. It takes time, but I know for one that it has transformed the 
London techno scene.





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To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?


The one mix I have by Ellen Allien is Fabric 34 and I listen to it a
lot -- both straight through and when individual tracks come up on
shuffle.

I think it's high time that we stop using minimal as a dirty word.
Minimalism in its broadest sense has been a revolution in music, not
so much because it has been revolutionary in content, but because it
has demanded a new relationship between the music and the listener.
The best minimal techno is every bit as dramatic and emotional as any
other sort of dance music.   The worst is just boring.   Worse than
that, it's a sort of music that appeals and encourages an audience of
people completely off their faces on drugs.  Give me something with a
little soul and variety anyday!

It's also to separate the music from the scene, and to realize that
slagging on a music/scene when it blows up is as much a hipster
transgression as following that trend.  I was amused last summer
walking around Brooklyn 'hipster' neighborhood last summer; it seemed
like people who, in my shallow evaluation were, in fact, the dreaded
hipsters, were modulating their fashion sense and coiffure to avoid
the dreaded hipster signifiers.

Being hip is too exhausting for me.  You'll always be trying to stay
ahead of curve, and nothing but eternal vigilance will keep you from
staying with something formerly cutting edge, now declasse'.   It's
like surfing -- you want to be in the curl without the wave crashing
over you.  I'm content to like what I like and let someone else sort
it out.

But I digress.  Ellen Allien is usually pretty ace in my estimation.
If one of her mixes sounded a little flat at first, I'd give it a few
listens to sink in before dismissing it.


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RE: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?

2008-04-04 Thread Toby Frith

Of course it doesn't mean that they will, but I suspect that without this 
relative explosion of interest in 4/4 dance music that is slightly cerebral and 
not reliant on euphoric melodies then that vital link to Detroit may have been 
lost. The popularity of Hawtin and Villalobos in particular has been central to 
this. 

The downside I feel is that the idiosyncrasies that makes the music of people 
like Robert Hood and Omar-S for example so exciting was their relative musical 
isolation in Detroit. Certainly with more exposure in Europe I think with 
regard to recent releases from both of these artists in particular I think that 
this has been watered down slightly. I've seen Hood twice in recent months and 
have to admit that he's not the force DJ-wise that he was.





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yeah but that doesn't necessarily mean they will like
derrick may or kevin saunderson's stuff.
i know i don't like most of it, even though i am a die-hard
fan of the artists you mentioned, as well as of hip
minimahl music

fab


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 The fact that minimal techno is currently seen as hip
 can only be a good thing. 
 
 More and more people are into labels like Chain Reaction,
 M-Plant and Basic Channel than ever before. That
 ultimately will lead them back to the Detroit originators.
 It takes time, but I know for one that it has transformed
 the London techno scene.
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 04 April 2008 15:41
 To: list 313
 Subject: Re: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?
 
 
 The one mix I have by Ellen Allien is Fabric 34 and I
 listen to it a lot -- both straight through and when
 individual tracks come up on shuffle.
 
 I think it's high time that we stop using minimal as a
 dirty word. Minimalism in its broadest sense has been a
 revolution in music, not so much because it has been
 revolutionary in content, but because it has demanded a
 new relationship between the music and the listener. The
 best minimal techno is every bit as dramatic and emotional
 as any other sort of dance music.   The worst is just
 boring.   Worse than that, it's a sort of music that
 appeals and encourages an audience of people completely
 off their faces on drugs.  Give me something with a little
 soul and variety anyday!
 
 It's also to separate the music from the scene, and to
 realize that slagging on a music/scene when it blows up is
 as much a hipster transgression as following that trend. 
 I was amused last summer walking around Brooklyn 'hipster'
 neighborhood last summer; it seemed like people who, in my
 shallow evaluation were, in fact, the dreaded hipsters,
 were modulating their fashion sense and coiffure to avoid
 the dreaded hipster signifiers.
 
 Being hip is too exhausting for me.  You'll always be
 trying to stay ahead of curve, and nothing but eternal
 vigilance will keep you from staying with something
 formerly cutting edge, now declasse'.   It's like surfing
 -- you want to be in the curl without the wave crashing
 over you.  I'm content to like what I like and let someone
 else sort it out.
 
 But I digress.  Ellen Allien is usually pretty ace in my
 estimation. If one of her mixes sounded a little flat at
 first, I'd give it a few listens to sink in before
 dismissing it.
 
 
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RE: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?

2008-04-04 Thread Toby Frith

Resident Advisor's DJ pages are quite interesting. Obviously it's meant to be a 
hybrid of DJ/Live acts that users vote on as their favourites, but 
interestingly the top 20 or so make for interesting reading, given that it's 
meant to be a minimal loving site.

http://www.residentadvisor.net/dj-ranks.aspx



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Im not sure that the people listening to minimal listen to CR, Hood, DBX
and so on, its all about the current sound like Craig Richards, Ricardo
Villalobos, luciano and these producers...the people who listen to it
because its hip don't care where its roots areits only good because
its hip. Next week there be into something else...

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To: kent williams; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?


The fact that minimal techno is currently seen as hip can only be a
good thing. 

More and more people are into labels like Chain Reaction, M-Plant and
Basic Channel than ever before. That ultimately will lead them back to
the Detroit originators. It takes time, but I know for one that it has
transformed the London techno scene.





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From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 April 2008 15:41
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?


The one mix I have by Ellen Allien is Fabric 34 and I listen to it a lot
-- both straight through and when individual tracks come up on shuffle.

I think it's high time that we stop using minimal as a dirty word.
Minimalism in its broadest sense has been a revolution in music, not so
much because it has been revolutionary in content, but because it has
demanded a new relationship between the music and the listener.
The best minimal techno is every bit as dramatic and emotional as any
other sort of dance music.   The worst is just boring.   Worse than
that, it's a sort of music that appeals and encourages an audience of
people completely off their faces on drugs.  Give me something with a
little soul and variety anyday!

It's also to separate the music from the scene, and to realize that
slagging on a music/scene when it blows up is as much a hipster
transgression as following that trend.  I was amused last summer walking
around Brooklyn 'hipster' neighborhood last summer; it seemed like
people who, in my shallow evaluation were, in fact, the dreaded
hipsters, were modulating their fashion sense and coiffure to avoid the
dreaded hipster signifiers.

Being hip is too exhausting for me.  You'll always be trying to stay
ahead of curve, and nothing but eternal vigilance will keep you from
staying with something formerly cutting edge, now declasse'.   It's
like surfing -- you want to be in the curl without the wave crashing
over you.  I'm content to like what I like and let someone else sort it
out.

But I digress.  Ellen Allien is usually pretty ace in my estimation.
If one of her mixes sounded a little flat at first, I'd give it a few
listens to sink in before dismissing it.


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RE: (313) Hieroglyphic Being - Bathroom Sessions Vol.1 CD

2008-04-03 Thread Toby Frith

My mistake, it's actually from 2006. It's on bleep.com under Mathematics.




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On 3 Apr 2008, at 10:16, Toby Frith wrote:

 Great name! - He's just released an exclusive mp3 thing on Warp's  
 site that is really out there.

Under what pseudonym is that under Toby? Just had a look and can't  
find it.

 At times his music is quite incredible.

Yeah, otherworldly. Amazing producer.

robin...


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RE: (313) Hieroglyphic Being - Bathroom Sessions Vol.1 CD

2008-04-03 Thread Toby Frith

Great name! - He's just released an exclusive mp3 thing on Warp's site that is 
really out there. 

At times his music is quite incredible.




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Anyone heard this? Limited CDRs on Mathematics.

When Jamal gets it right I really love his stuff, when he does the  
harder noisy stuff I lose interested - wondering which side of his  
sound this shows.

robin...


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(313) Convextion @ Fabric

2008-04-01 Thread Toby Frith
Playing live along with Deepchord at Fabric on Sat 26th April in Room 1. Should 
be interesting!


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RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-31 Thread Toby Frith
Most of the 1st wave of dubstep producers were centred around one shop, Big 
Apple Records in Croydon. They sold techno, and were closely associated with 
London techno night Lost, but it was UK garage that sold the most, and that's 
the big influence.

The thought that they're all fans of Basic Channel and Chain Reaction is 
misguided.




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To: Joel Gajewski; 313@hyperreal.org
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Miami)


Serious - a lot of dubstep producers seem to have been raised in quite a
hermetic environment with limited influences - it's only now that
they've been made aware of other genres and the sound has converged with
other genres in some instances - Benga's latest material is very techno


Rob Taylor
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Sent: 28 March 2008 22:17
To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple,
Miami)

Are you messing with me or are you serious?  I would assume that a guy
in the music producing industry would have seen at least one copy of
Sheet One or Musik.  Just my opinion.  I wasn't listening to dance music
when Sheet One came out, but I saw it in the stores and thought 'wow,
someone used a sheet of blotter as a cd cover.  Then, there was the
whole arrest of the kid that had the cd in his car when he was pulled
over in Arizona.  *shrug


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He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's
not exactly famous 


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Miami)


Plasticman tried to claim that he had never heard of Plastikman in an
early interview a few years ago.  :rollseyes:  Sure, buddy.  

I'm Plasticman, with a 'C' though.  It's different.

hahaha

BTW, I have a new band that I just started, Ziggy and the Stoojes.  


What?  


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 Plastic man vs Plastikman

Plasticman changed his name to Plastician.

 AS1 vs As One


I think there is a case for the pronunciation of that as Ay Ess One.

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RE: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)

2008-03-28 Thread Toby Frith

Virtually any festival of any note in the last few years has grown in this 
manner. The first few line-ups are always amazing, and then as it grows, costs 
escalate and other factors concerning the future viability of the project 
become prominent, and as such other, more commercial aspects get involved. It's 
also difficult to try to downscale such a project once it gets to a certain 
size. 

I think what Gil says has some pertinence - Miami is the only American 
electronic music festival of any note and that's got unfortunate associations. 
At least having something in Detroit is a worthwhile start.










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To: Gil Yaker
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)


Five years?  Do the math.  There is, at the moment, only a 25% detroit
musician presence on the posted list of artists playing
With Dieselboy I think it's now dropped slightly below 25%.

I'd like to know how you think James Zabiela (a DJ schooled by non other
than Sasha of Sasha  Digweed fame) and Benny Benassi (who's latest album
Rock  Rave is out on Ultra records) don't betray the roots of Detroit.
Are you ok with this sort of thing?  So next year if they have Pete Tong,
Paul Van Dyk, and Paul Oakenfold you'd be alright with that - as long as
they keep a Detroit stage.
Yeah, I suppose if there's a little corner in Detroit where Detroit artists
can play

:-/

MEK

Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/28/2008 07:02:29 AM:


 I'm sure the Detroit purists won't agree, but if for some reason
 this festival congeals as the US's (other) large electronic music
 festival (besides WMC), I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I'm
 still scarred from the late 80s/90s when there was such strong
 animosity toward any kind of dance music. So getting Myspace sized
 visibility and year after year momentum can only be seen by me as a
 positive, as long as it doesn't completely betray its roots. And If
 I were to be completely pessimistic and assume that in 5 years
 whatever the festival evolves into only maintains 25% detroit
 musical presence, that would still be so insanely out of line with
 the greater  dance/festival culture that I'd call it a success.



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 Subject: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)


 discuss:

 Detroit - May 24, 25 and 26th will bring Detroit alive with sounds from
 Movement 08:
 Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival in Hart Plaza with the Red Bull Music
 Academy, MySpace promotion and a higher level of production. Movement 08
 also announces discounted tickets on sale now.

 The Red Bull Music Academy will join Movement 08 by producing a stage
that
 reflects a broad range of musical talent from around the world. The Red
 Bull Music Academy Stage will replace the Pyramid Stage and include
 performances by: Newcleus, Egyptian Lover, Shawn Michaels, James Zabiela,
 Benny Bennassi, The Cool Kids,Girl Talk, DATABASS (featuring Godfather),
 Justin Kruse, Tech Itch and Dieselboy.

 Also joining this year as a media partner is the vastly popular, global
 online social networking site MySpace. Having grown over the previous
years
 to become the largest online social network, MySpace is utilized by many
 artists and fans to connect and keep in touch with each other, adding an
 intimate element to the usual marketing channels. MySpace?s interest in
 working with the Movement Festival validates an already well known fact -
 Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival is an event that is continuing to
grow
 and attract attention on a worldwide scale.

 After the last two years of progress and reviews the festival is getting
 some well deserved attention, notes festival director Jason Huvaere,
 there will be no question what?s happening in Detroit on Memorial Day
 weekend.

 In addition, this year?s event will increase the level of production
 regarding sound at the main stage and weather structures to protect
 attendees. Movement 08 will also bring back the underground stage, where
 Paxahau?s involvement in the festival began. We have taken great
measures
 to bring the production to an even higher level, says Mike Fotias,
 Movement Production Manager, We understand that attendees come here
 expecting nothing but the best and we are determined to deliver.


 also there's this FREEP article
 http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080327/ENT04/803270434

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RE: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)

2008-03-28 Thread Toby Frith

You're not taking into account the commercial viability of this. In Europe 
we're lucky because a lot of festivals have considerable funding from various 
councils and organisations in order to get them to go ahead. The only festival 
I can think of that that doesn't really run according to commercial foibles is 
Montreux, and that's been backed from the start by rich philanthropy.

Although I've not been, I don't think that is the case in Detroit. It has to be 
commercially viable in order to succeed in the future. Now, it may be that in 
say, 5 or 6 years time, the festival may be successful enough nationwide for 
them to realise their dreams of putting on at least in part the festival that 
everyone on 313 wants it to be. You may have to be patient for it to happen I'm 
afraid. They either put on a festival that no-one turns up to and they lose all 
their money on, or they pocket enough money to be able to do it next year. 

The fact that Paxahau are doing it I think means that those guys I'm sure will 
be carrying the flame for Detroit Techno all along, but it'll take time. 
Landscapes and crowds change - and mindsets have to as well.

 



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From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 March 2008 15:05
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)


On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Virtually any festival of any note in the last few years has grown in this 
 manner. The first
 few line-ups are always amazing, and then as it grows, costs escalate and 
 other factors
 concerning the future viability of the project become prominent, and as such 
 other, more
 commercial aspects get involved. It's also difficult to try to downscale such 
 a project once it
 gets to a certain size.

everybody else is doing it is a good reason to become wack? i dont
see what the problem with scaling back in order to not turn this
festival into a joke is.

tom

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RE: (313) The Wire

2008-03-27 Thread Toby Frith

The Wire is proof that that attention to detail and characterisation over 
commercially-driven scripts works spectacularly well. 

What a show!



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On 27 Mar 2008, at 16:03, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:

 Sure, I'm on ep 2 and watching only one show a week - old school
 style. Best TV I've seen in a long time, some of the shots and detail
 is amazing.

 oh just wait, it gets much much much better.

No spoilers :) I can believe that, I think it's actually better than  
the Sopranos.

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RE: (313) The Wire

2008-03-27 Thread Toby Frith

Maybe not now, but in the long run it'll be seen for the classic bit of TV that 
it really is.



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To: Toby Frith; Martin Dust; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) The Wire


Not really, it has very low viewing figures - even C4 won't pick it up 


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From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 March 2008 16:08
To: Martin Dust; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) The Wire


The Wire is proof that that attention to detail and characterisation
over commercially-driven scripts works spectacularly well. 

What a show!



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Sent: 27 March 2008 16:06
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) The Wire



On 27 Mar 2008, at 16:03, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Sure, I'm on ep 2 and watching only one show a week - old school 
 style. Best TV I've seen in a long time, some of the shots and detail

 is amazing.

 oh just wait, it gets much much much better.

No spoilers :) I can believe that, I think it's actually better than the
Sopranos.

m


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(313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-13 Thread Toby Frith

19 Minneapolis, MN - Myth
20 Milwaukee, WI - Eagles Ballroom
23 Denver, CO - The Fillmore
26 Indio, CA - Coachella Music Festival

I think we might see something new from Kraftwerk on these shows - they're 
similar to their mini-tours of 1990 and 2002 when they showcased a new set up 
on each occasion.



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RE: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-13 Thread Toby Frith

Kraftwerk have done mini-tours before, when showcasing or testing a new live 
set up. They usually do 1-3 gigs before 1 larger one, which in this instance is 
Coachella. 

Not sure if this does mean a new live performance including set-up and songs, 
but it's a distinct possibility. 




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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April


On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  19 Minneapolis, MN - Myth
  20 Milwaukee, WI - Eagles Ballroom
  23 Denver, CO - The Fillmore
  26 Indio, CA - Coachella Music Festival

man, that is weak. my son wants to see Kraftwerk S much, but the
closes one to me is Milwaukee and im not driving 10 hours there nor
can i afford to fly the whole family for one night. that sucks. we'll
just have to wait and hope that they come back next year for a full
tour.

tom

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RE: (313) Rex Club 20 years

2008-03-12 Thread Toby Frith

Yeah, I'd be interested in this, seeing as it's only 2 h away by eurostar.



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Benoit

When is it?


 From: Benoît Pueyo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 11 March 2008 21:31
 
 I was in Paris at the 15 years. Exciting moments hearing Mad Mike live,
 Jeff Mills disco set, or Garnier 12h set. Other good moments for sure
 but I could not attend all the parties.
 
 in may this year will be the 20th anniversary, Ill actually have moved
 again to Paris by that time.
 
 Exciting names already (To be Confirmed) came to my ear, i cant hide
 them anymore :
 
 Jeff Mills all night long, Laurent Garnier all night long, Dave Clarke,
 Green Velvet, Luciano, Daniel Bell (Live), Miss Kittin,  the hacker,
 Ellen Allien, Dubfire, D'Julz, Manu le malin, John Thomas, Troy Pierce,
 Damian Lazarus, Magda, Larry heard, Boys Noize, Agoria etc etc...
 
 Full line up TBA beginning of april
 
 Who will be there ? I wanna meet some 313ers !


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RE: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread Toby Frith

Without wanting to be too harsh on the organisers or the spirt of the festival, 
major headliners at a festival that hopes to attract international punters 
should be announced at least 3 to 4 months in advance at the earliest. The 
summer period is ridiculously laden with festivals in Europe, and in most cases 
people can only afford 1 or 2 at the very most and have to make decisions in 
Jan or Feb from a financial perspective because hotels, flights and the like go 
up as demand increases. 

It's a shame if Detroit has to lose out.





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Subject: Re: (313) demf 2008


Excellent points Francis, about the commercial side. Their approach is
not geared towards music lovers, and it's a shame in the eyes of
people like us. I think they're already putting on all the music they
like though and wouldn't consider what they're doing as making
concessions. The change in the musical nature of the event was
intentional and favorable in their eyes.

JT

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(313) Bleep43 - 18/4 London - I-F, DJ Stingray Kevin Reynolds

2008-02-21 Thread Toby Frith
BLEEP43

Fri 18th April @ Corsica Studios, Elephant Road, London

I-F
DJ Stingray 
Kevin Reynolds (live)
Placid (3 hour set)
Plant43 (live)
Datassette (live)
NCW
Dask
Bleep43 DJs

10 - 6 am
£12 

Bleep43 welcomes the electronic disco/acid/electro colossus that is I-F for a 
special exclusive set. Alongside him is Detroit's DJ Stingray and Kevin 
Reynolds playing in the UK for the first time, the 313 stalwart that is the 
legendary Placid with a 3 hour set and our usual assortment of local DJs and 
live acts all in the relaxed surroundings of Corsica Studios, which is arguably 
London's most laidback venue, complemented by a thumping Funktion 1 sound 
system over 2 rooms.

Tickets are £12 and will be available through WeGotTickets, Paypal (12.50 per 
ticket to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and shops nearer the time.


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RE: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT

2008-02-14 Thread Toby Frith
No doubt at all. 

For some unfathomable reason I still feel a very faint flicker of being 
uncomfortable with it though. Everything about it is done to make you feel that 
it's not an advert in any way whatsoever - and I guess this is just the way 
things are done nowadays. The artist is happy - his integrity isn't compromised 
and we get to see a glimpse of his craft and how he does things, the advertiser 
gets nothing but 5 seconds at the end.and yet! I love Adidas and I love 
Theo Parrish...It doesn't make sense. 











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Sent: 14 February 2008 11:03
To: 313
Cc: Mann, Ravinder; M Ng; Frank Glazer; Cyclone Wehner; Carlos de Brito
Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT


I bet the creators of the advert / film / viral branded content thing  
knew that this would cause a stir on 313 amongst the heads...

and that it would generate buzz

and that people would look at it

and keep Theo.. and adidas, fresh in their minds.

so, they've succeeded. No harm done, right?



+odd
--
On Feb 14, 2008, at 5:00 AM, Frank Glazer wrote:

 seriously.  i liken this kind of thing (see also red bull music
 academy) to the financial backing renaissance artists got from wealthy
 patrons.

 On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 4:56 AM, Mann, Ravinder  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is more reference to Detroit music than there is to Adidas  
 in the
  ad. You could even miss the shots of the trainers and not even  
 realise
  its an advert till the closing image. It's all good.





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  To: Cyclone Wehner
  Cc: Carlos de Brito; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT


  I agree with Kent. Selling out is about compromising values.

  I will also add - An artist has to eat - and it's great that they  
 have
  other means of income other than just make records. Better something
  cool like an adidas ad, than say flipping burgers or being stuck  
 in an
  office. Face it, not much $ is being made on making records.

  I have NFI really about a grammy. if you get nominated, it'd be  
 sweet
  to get a chance to win one. I'm sure there is a lot of  
 politicking and
  bias etc going on, but if I were an artist and people appreciated my
  recordings and nominated me, I wouldn't be complaining. And I dont'
  think you'd be either.


  On Feb 13, 2008 9:15 PM, Cyclone Wehner  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 This is a good thing. I still don't know about Benny and that Grammy
 though??? C'mon!

 Cyclone Wehner
 Urban/Dance Music Journalist
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 On 14/02/2008, at 1:12 AM, Carlos de Brito wrote:

 it is the 4th time this video pops up here ;)

 btw: i'm still wondering why, but adidas is not the only major
 company that discovered theo parrish for their marketing
 activities. in april he will be in germany (with omar-s and robert
 owens) for a Coke DJ Culture Tour: http://brandbooking.org/?
 section=tour+%26+dates

 c*


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 Von: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 An: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
 Betreff: RE: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT



 We 313ers should all watch it I think.

 I did post it to the list over a week ago though.

 Keep up! ;-)

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 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT


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RE: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT

2008-02-14 Thread Toby Frith
Harsh.



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Sent: 14 February 2008 12:22
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Subject: RE: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT


If Adidas was music it would be 'funky house'. Not good.

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Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT


it's almost like music

Martin Dust schreef:

 On 14 Feb 2008, at 11:58, Matt Kane's Brain wrote:

 On Feb 14, 2008, at 6:51 AM, Martin Dust wrote:

 the only thing they do is the design

 Well shucks, good thing that's so easy! :)

 I wasn't suggesting that it (design) was easy, merely pointing out
 and re-enforcing the point I made about nebulous lifestyle choices and

 the fact that it's concept and ideas based.

 m



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RE: (313) and my next question is......

2008-02-13 Thread Toby Frith
Although the format is clumsy and frustrating, I like Myspace as well. It's 
also good if you subscribe to an artist, you get updates on any new music 
they may put up. It's better for more obscure ambient/iDm/experimental stuff 
IMHO though.



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To: 313 Org
Subject: RE: (313) and my next question is..


I'm (almost) as bad as Rob in this respect! :) 

- but who cares?


Just go with what you're comfortable with innit Francis  Good luck


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Sent: 12 February 2008 18:40
To: Jochem Peteri; 313 Org
Subject: RE: (313) and my next question is..


I don't use either of them to find new music - it's far too
time-consuming and I'm far too lazy.
 


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From: Jochem Peteri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 February 2008 18:31
To: 313 Org
Subject: Re: (313) and my next question is..

Facebook is way too spammy for my liking, myspace is definately my
weapon of choice. But im a band, not a night. ehm. right. myspace. nice
and easy : )

On Feb 12, 2008 7:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 mainly directed at UK 313ers I think as the answer may be different
 elsewhere but until we go global ( ;-) I guess I'm interested on the
situation here on home soil:

 MySpace vs. Facebook

 I've been wanting to do a MySpace page for our night for ages as,
 although we have our own site, it seemed like that was the way many 
 people communicated.  I didn't want to start it until I was good and 
 ready as I was afraid I couldn't handle the probable time drain 
 otherwise.  In the meantime, in common with many people I've spoken
to, I accidentally joined Facebook when I received one of their
such-and-such says you're their friend, just click on this link to
confirm it or they'll know you didn't and weep for a yearooops
you just joined Facebook (sinister laugh) mails.
 Since then I've been seduced and enjoy being on it, putting photos up,

 seeing what friends are up to etc (though it takes a good deal of
 time).  But I still thought the right way forward was to have a 
 Facebook page for me and a MySpace page for our night.  So recently I 
 joined up under a pseudonym so I could start a group.  I then spoke to

 various friends who I thought were well into it and said give me some

 pointers on how best to do this thing.  To my surprise I received the

 reply oh MySpace is over now, nobody uses it anymore, just do it on
Facebook.  This is fine for me if true as I've become confident with
Facebook (I'll do us a group there anyway as it's a doddle) where I'm
scared of MySpace.  My impression was MySpace was still used by creative
types (for example I thought a band would still have a MySpace rather
than Facebook page) but this lot I asked are well into spending time on
these things and I know were big on MySpace but now aren't.  What do
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(313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT

2008-02-13 Thread Toby Frith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dydtXJ94CE



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RE: RE: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT

2008-02-13 Thread Toby Frith
Worrying about selling out and underground legitimacy seems to mostly
be the occupation of people who have leisure time paid for by their
own selling out to whatever corporation they're working for.

whilst wearing Adidas shoes...





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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: RE: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT


Theo is going to get all sorts of love from the 313 list that Richie
won't.  That's just the way things are.

Watching that video doesn't make me think Theo is selling out to
Adidas. It makes me think that Theo and a Film-maker got a bunch of
money from Adidas to make a short film that gets at the heart of what
Detroit dance music is all about.  I don't even think you can see
Theo's feet in it.

Worrying about selling out and underground legitimacy seems to mostly
be the occupation of people who have leisure time paid for by their
own selling out to whatever corporation they're working for.  'Selling
out' or 'Keeping it real' are more mythic attributes that people paste
artists with, which makes black in white a world that is almost
entirely gray.

This is a completely different thing than compromising artistic
principles to make money. Who in their right mind would talk about
Theo that way?

It's like they want their favorite artists not to sell out, because
they want to believe there's someone left that hasn't sold out.  Fair
enough, I suppose, but we all have to make a living somehow.  Let him
who is without sin cast the first stone.

On Feb 13, 2008 8:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i'm surprised noone has mentioned anything about selling
 out, or corporate invasion of underground cultures or
 something along those lines.
 i bet there would have been an outrage if it was richie

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(313) Bleep43 podcast - Detroit Beatdown Special Part 2

2008-02-12 Thread Toby Frith

http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show86.mp3

Part 2 of the Detroit Beatdown Special. You can read Dan's excellent and 
authorative interview with them below.

http://www.djhistory.com/djhistory/featuresDisplay.php?writings_id=101


Part 1 is still here

http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show85.mp3




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(313) Detroit Beatdown

2008-02-06 Thread Toby Frith
4 hours of Mike, Norm and Delano in the mix on the Bleep43 Podcast.

http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show85.mp3

Part 2 next week.


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RE: (313) Detroit Beatdown

2008-02-06 Thread Toby Frith
Sorry, I should have advised - it's 2 x 2 hours.



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Sent: 06 February 2008 13:19
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Beatdown


Thanks so much for this! You mean that next week we'll have another 4h  
part? :D

Antonio

On Feb 6, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

 On Feb 6, 2008 7:42 AM, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 4 hours of Mike, Norm and Delano in the mix on the Bleep43 Podcast.

 http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show85.mp3

 Part 2 next week.

 nice one, DLing now. i love those guys!

 tom

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RE: (313) Detroit Beatdown

2008-02-06 Thread Toby Frith
There's an unreleased collaboration between Amp Fiddler and Eddie Fowlkes on 
the 2nd part, or at least that's what Norm told me it was. 



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Sent: 06 February 2008 13:19
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Beatdown


Thanks so much for this! You mean that next week we'll have another 4h  
part? :D

Antonio

On Feb 6, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

 On Feb 6, 2008 7:42 AM, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 4 hours of Mike, Norm and Delano in the mix on the Bleep43 Podcast.

 http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show85.mp3

 Part 2 next week.

 nice one, DLing now. i love those guys!

 tom

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RE: (313) Basic Channel on Beatport

2008-02-06 Thread Toby Frith
Yes, you pay an extra Wav handling fee.



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From: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 February 2008 16:01
To: Jacob Arnold; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Basic Channel on Beatport


sorry for perhaps sounding the obvious but is it possible to download
wav files from beatport.

On 2/6/08, Jacob Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Speaking of previously vinyl-only labels
 http://www.beatport.com/label/Basic+Channel

 I downloaded 2.85 GB of .wav files last night. They sound about the same
 as my vinyl transfers, though.

 J




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RE: (313) Fabric 39 - Robert Hood

2008-02-04 Thread Toby Frith
The thing about Hood is that whilst he continues to play at a speed (150 - 160 
bpm) that other techno DJs these days fear to tread water in (even Mills I 
don't think ever goes past 140), his eq'ing and mixing is virtually perfect and 
it never feels that punishing. I'd call it glacial if I was trying to be a bit 
highbrow, as there's an enormous amount of space in it. 

What's more pertinent I think is that to my own recollection, I very rarely 
hear other DJs play his records in great abundance any more, perhaps almost as 
a mark of respect, because his style of techno and his productions are solely 
his, and his alone.

Unfortunately I will say that his choice of records and the style of techno he 
plays means that on all but the most potent soundsystems much of his DJ 
aesthestic is lost on a crowd. 



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Sometimes we don't say things on this list because they're self
evident, but let me say it: Rob Hood is one of the most consistently
brilliant producers in Detroit Techno, and one of its most distinctive
DJs.   Rob was the headliner for Iowa's largest (and for the
promoters, most financially disastrous) rave, where from all reports
he burned the place down.   At the time his mom was living here, (in
Des Moines, I think), which may have been one of the reasons my
friends were able to book him -- free ticket to see Moms!

He made some of the seminal records in the minimal style, like
Minimal Nation, and though his former partner Jeff Mills is much
more famous, it's not because Mills is better; they're as different
musically as is possible in a genre like hard techno.  Mills has also
put more work into marketing and image.  I'm not saying this to
criticize Mills, just that they have followed different paths.

A few years ago I was visiting Nick Wilson in London and he played me
a Rob Hood mix (no idea which one) that was jaw-droppingly fierce --
super fast, dark, and minimal, but exciting.  Unlike a lot of DJs I've
heard who are into minimal techno, Rob's sets are not monochromatic --
they're dynamic, mercurial, and savage.  Dynamics, Texture, and Groove
are what makes minimal techno come alive -- something that is lacking
from the work of the more high profile haircut DJ stars of the genre.

I'm glad he'll get the recognition that a Fabric CD will bring. A new
generation of club-goers has come up who may not know his work at all.
 It will be great if they find out what the real deal is with minimal
techo -- it's about time!

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RE: (313) what's in today's bag

2008-01-18 Thread Toby Frith
The Trusme records are rocking my world at the mo.



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To: robin; 313 313
Subject: Re: (313) what's in today's bag


great! i hope you guys continue talking about the new music
- i've been out of the loop for some time now.

i'm especially curious of this new style berlin techno i've
seen mentioned a couple of times

f.


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 On 18 Jan 2008, at 09:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  mine was my shopping bag
  :-)
 
 
 Me too. I love hearing what people have picked up
 recently. There's   tonnes of new, good, music coming out
 these days.
 
 robin...

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RE: (313) what's in today's bag

2008-01-18 Thread Toby Frith
I'll be up in Manchester in Feb for 

Feb 15 - Jamal Moss DJ set
Feb 16 - Sequence with Surgeon, Robert Hood, Redshape, Andy Stott and Rob Hall. 

I've heard the Sequence do is at a new venue.



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 The Trusme records are rocking my world at the mo.

Trusme's hot right now (go Manchester!).

He has Juan Atkins on at the Roadhouse in Manchester at the end of  
this month (along with himself).

Juan if you're reading this. Please turn up... :)

robin...

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RE: (313) Glasgow

2008-01-18 Thread Toby Frith
Arguably just behind Berlin and Detroit as one of the techno cities of the 
world.



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Subject: Re: (313) Glasgow


Glasgow is a great place for Techno, you've got Monox, Pressure and  
loads of nights going off at the Sub-Club and they are all on the same  
block. Hit Rub A Dub record store for some flyers and this place just  
off Argyle Street for the best kebabs in the world:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dustscience/461259344/in/set-72157600081722735/

m


On 18 Jan 2008, at 10:18, theREALmxyzptlk wrote:

 Asking for a friend:
 What/where is there anything club-wise to encounter in Glasgow?
 Thanks!

   jeff


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RE: (313) Glasgow

2008-01-18 Thread Toby Frith
different kind of rain though. SE asia rain is relentless, but it's usually 
warm outside, so it's not such an issue.

I bet it never drizzles in SE Asia. ever.





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i dont want to oneup all you brits, but you don't know rain
til you've lived in SE Asia! ;)
and trust me, i know British weather!
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 Meh, you don't know rain until you've lived in Manchester!
 
 :)
 
 robin...
 
 On 18 Jan 2008, at 11:20, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
 
  24/7, I heard.
 
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  i've heard it always rains overthere
 

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RE: (313) C2 at Carnegie Hall, well sort of

2008-01-11 Thread Toby Frith
yeah of course, and at that time particular time, I feel that it was very much 
Old World vs New World.


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essentially i agree, although i don't think it had anything to do with
technology in particular, but the modernization of culture and
communication..which was partially the result of technology, but also
just the direction of popular taste and social/cultural identity
etc...

i spent wayyy too much time reading that stuff in college...

   but a lot of it seems to be the writings of a man desparately
  trying to cling onto something that was fast disappearing whilst
  technology washed over him like a huge wave.

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RE: (313) C2 at Carnegie Hall, well sort of

2008-01-11 Thread Toby Frith
Adorno is pretty hardcore - some of what he writes, with regard to the 
synthesis of the spirit of music into a commercial product, does hit home I 
feel, but a lot of it seems to be the writings of a man desparately trying to 
cling onto something that was fast disappearing whilst technology washed over 
him like a huge wave. 

He was writing at a time when many of the great composers of the early 20th 
century had just passed away or were coming to the end of their lives, and of 
course the likes of Schoenberg were beginning to make their mark with 
Serialism, so you can sense his despair, but his perspective just seems, if not 
dated, just out of place given the state of modern music and its relationship 
with technology.





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Sent: 11 January 2008 15:31
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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sorry, i was a media production major and had to study him extensively...

his views on music are considered a bit fascist (although he himself
ran from the nazi's), he had an absolute hatred for anything that was
not high-culture, which of course included the whole of black
culture.

here's the relevant bit from his wikipedia page

In 1936, the Zeitschrift featured one of Adorno's most controversial
texts, On Jazz (Über Jazz). It should be noted that jazz was
frequently used to refer to all popular music at the time of Adorno's
writing. This article was less an engagement with this style of music
than a first polemic against the blooming entertainment and culture
industry. Adorno believed the culture industry was a system by which
society was controlled though a top-down creation of standardized
culture that intensified the commodification of artistic expression.
Extensive correspondence with Horkheimer, who was then living in exile
in the United States, led to an offer of employment in America.

on the surface, you can even slightly agree with it, but his views are
absolutely uncompromising, absolutely anti-social, and biased towards
his own supposed elite experience with high-brow classical music and
academia.


On Jan 11, 2008 10:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i don't.

 all i know about adorno is that i studied his text books in
 highschool history of art class

 i guess wikipedia is my friend though


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  On 11 Jan 2008, at 15:06, JT Stewart wrote:
 
   adorno and horkheimer published most of their stuff in
  the 40's. 
 
  Got ya...
 
  m


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RE: (313) C2 at Carnegie Hall, well sort of

2008-01-11 Thread Toby Frith
Well that's been around for years with Wendy Carlos et al if we're talking 
about electronic music in general.

It's a difficult one to call because there are examples, like Carlos or Tomita, 
where they've reinterpreted pieces with style and subtlety. Funnily enough, 
some of the truly worst examples have come from Klaus Schulze, who went down a 
trance/classical  route in the 90's and the results are nothing less than 
horrific, which is surprising given the quality of his material in the 70's. 

I feel personally that a lot of it is just down to technology more than 
anything else, and our fascination with it. When options become available, then 
I feel that it is natural that one explores old genres and reinterprets it. The 
earliest forms of electronic music, apart from the truly avant-garde, did 
almost at once, start to recreate old popular classical music, because I guess 
it was the first time that it could be done.






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Subject: Re: (313) C2 at Carnegie Hall, well sort of


Most of the discussion (and displeasure) seems to be about techno music
transposed for a classical orchestra.  What about going the other
direction?
I can't think of specific examples at the moment but I know there are
classical pieces that have been interpreted by electronic/techno artists
using the tools of their trade.

Is this still perceived an attempt to validate electronic music?

MEK

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/11/2008 09:48:53 AM:

 i don't see it as cross-pollination, but rather classical
 dudes playing contemporary music, possibly to get in touch
 with the younger masses, to show that you can be hip even
 for a classical dude, or something along those lines...

 anyway, i will check this new C2 stuff out and (like george
 michael said) will listen without prejudice

 have a nice weekend, i'm flying off to frankfurt for party.
 ciao

 f.

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   i was referring to a techno-classical crossover, and not
   cross-pollination in general. and that would have been
   quite foolish since techno is not a pure genre in
  anycase.
 
  eh? if you recognize cross-pollination is good, then why
  not a techno-classical crossover?
 
   i'm sorry but i dont get the last paragraph quoted above
   though. what do you mean by dance music/black music vs
   classical?
 
  jazz was the result of black dance music crossed with
  essentially classical instrumentation.

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RE: (313) C2 at Carnegie Hall, well sort of

2008-01-10 Thread Toby Frith
I enjoyed the Blue Potential. It carried an air of ridiculousness that 
accompanies anything highbrow Mills does - the idea of an orchestra playing 
some of his harder records was faintly surreal, and there is something a bit 
daft in the idea that classical musicians interpreting techno music sort of 
validates it which I often feel is the hidden agenda behind these sorts of 
exercises, because ultimately classical music and orchestras are seen as the 
high end of the spectrum, whilst some guy pressing buttons on a drab grey box 
is seen as the opposite end.

Funnily enough, The Bells was the most enjoyable interpretation alongside 
The March.

re : C2 - I'd agree with JT - I think it'd be definitely more interesting and 
more importantly, dynamic. 



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Sent: 10 January 2008 04:49
To: Frank Glazer
Cc: /0; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) C2 at Carnegie Hall, well sort of


not exactly a twist was it? :P

i think c2 translated to orchestra would be tremendous. the string
arrangements would translate easily, and imagining the simple
basslines and rhythmic melodic bits played by viola and french horn or
whatever, hot dang. i never heard jeff mills' orchestra experiment,
but i imagine carl's being more striking

obviously carl already has respectable experience with live music and
adventurous instrumentation with detroit experiment

but besides, classical music and techno music are a great match,
they're both played by machines (excepting yo yo ma, who is definitely
an animal)


On Jan 9, 2008 11:16 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i think you missed my point, but i'm also beginning to think you're
 just a troll.

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RE: (313) let's make a year end list!

2007-12-18 Thread Toby Frith
nights out - Stinki and Gus coming over to London. Good work chaps.



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From: JT Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 December 2007 14:42
To: Tristan Watkins
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) let's make a year end list!


  3. v/a - acido #5 (Acido)

 I didn't know there was a 5th Acido! -

it just came out

http://hardwax.com/55701/

dreesen's track optimo (misspelled on hardwax) is really really
fresh imo...a hybrid in-between berlin minimal, theo parrish, and
chicago

On Dec 18, 2007 4:56 AM, jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 17. bass invadurrz - invasion (frequeNC)
 
 is that out yet? the site http://www.frequenc.net seems to be down at the 
 moment so i can not check/order.

they need to update their dang site. it's out, but uh they have no
distribution, and it is not available at any stores. clone is
interested but it's unclear whether they will actually pick any up.
all the frequeNC's are hand silk-screened and manufactured in the usa,
which makes the price a bit intimidating for shops/distribs

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RE: (313) let's make a year end list!

2007-12-18 Thread Toby Frith
To be fair, I've not heard many 313-related releases that have really struck a 
chord. There has been a lot of material that I suspect will reap rewards on 
listening in a few years, but nothing that made me froth at the gills.

I'm not in the habit of making lists anymore, but the following struck a 
chord

Panda Bear - Person Pitch
Stars of the Lid - ...and their refinement of the decline
Alva Noto - Haliod Xerox Vol 1
Heinrich Dressel - Mons Testaceum
ERP - Vox Automaton
Plant43 - Grey Sky Cracks EP
The Throbbing Gristle LP
Dopplereffekt - Calabi Yau Space
NWAQ - Dead Bears
some new Amp Fiddler/Eddie Fowlkes track that Norm Talley played at Fabric last 
month.
Smith n Hack - Falling Star
the Unity Kolabo (sp) double pack by Jus Ed on UQ.
Gladio - Hadrians Wall EP
A couple of the Redshape EPs...bang on it for me - v.good abstract techno.

and lots more that I've no doubt forgotten already. It was a good year!








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Sent: 18 December 2007 14:51
To: Toby Frith; JT Stewart; Tristan Watkins
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Fair enough, how about some music releases you enjoyed too! :)

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Sent: 18 December 2007 14:50
To: JT Stewart; Tristan Watkins
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nights out - Stinki and Gus coming over to London. Good work chaps.



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From: JT Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 December 2007 14:42
To: Tristan Watkins
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Subject: Re: (313) let's make a year end list!


  3. v/a - acido #5 (Acido)

 I didn't know there was a 5th Acido! -

it just came out

http://hardwax.com/55701/

dreesen's track optimo (misspelled on hardwax) is really really fresh
imo...a hybrid in-between berlin minimal, theo parrish, and chicago

On Dec 18, 2007 4:56 AM, jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 17. bass invadurrz - invasion (frequeNC)
 
 is that out yet? the site http://www.frequenc.net seems to be down at 
 the moment so i can not check/order.

they need to update their dang site. it's out, but uh they have no
distribution, and it is not available at any stores. clone is interested
but it's unclear whether they will actually pick any up. all the
frequeNC's are hand silk-screened and manufactured in the usa, which
makes the price a bit intimidating for shops/distribs

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(313) Bleep43 podcast - Rick Wilhite

2007-12-17 Thread Toby Frith
Rick Wilhite recorded live @ To the Bone last month in London.

http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show80.mp3

No tracklisting I'm afraid, but some very sweet tracks on there. The 1st part 
of the set will be on the next To The Bone podcast I believe.

Many thanks to Rik, Dave and Charlie for making it happen.

www.tothebone.co.uk
www.bleep43recordings.com


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RE: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Toby Frith
How do you define Pop?  I would say that Daft Punk's overt manipulation of 
image and how they present both their music and themselves is up in the higher 
echelons of pop music alongside Kraftwerk, Sparks et al. In fact it's rumoured 
that they have taken the latter's robot persona to another level - in that they 
don't actually play at their own gigs.




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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Electro


On Dec 3, 2007 11:11 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Homework is less pop than their subsequent albums.  Imo Daft Punk as pop as
 Chemical Brothers, Moby, Prodigy, etc. are pop

their last album was very techno, it sucked, but it wasnt really pop
at all. its funny that one more time is a pop song, yet romanthony
has so many other tracks that arent. that album also had Todd Edwards
and DJ Sneak on it! so one album out of 3 had overt pop tendencies,
and even those were well within the realm of house and techno music. i
may not like their albums aside from homework, but i still dont think
they are a pop group.

tom

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RE: (313) OT: Portable Recorder (same question as always)

2007-11-23 Thread Toby Frith

Probably via a USB connector?



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Subject: RE: (313) OT: Portable Recorder (same question as always)


Sounds useful - how does it do the line in?  Presumably an adapter cable with a 
3.5mm jack line socket to proprietary connector on
the phone? 



 From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 23 November 2007 13:28
 
 believe it or not, I use my cellphone, which is a walkman branded sony 
 ericsson.  records in wav or mp3 with mic or line in.  hotswappable 
 4gb m2 cards.


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RE: (313) OT: Portable Recorder (same question as always)

2007-11-23 Thread Toby Frith

The only thing about the H320 is that it will cut out after a certain time at 
higher kbps rates of recording and you can't monitor the levels.



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) OT: Portable Recorder (same question as always)


It does record tho ive rarely used it. 

I can speak up for its :
robustness - its tough
reliability - not one disk crash or glitch with 3 yrs of almost daily
use
sound - one of the best for an mp3 player

The Rockbox upgrade works wonder apparently.

Rav

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) OT: Portable Recorder (same question as always)


The European version of the iRiver H320/340 comes highly recommended,
we've
recorded everyone (well everyone who agreed...) from DJ Bone, Akufen,
Stefan
Roberts/Terrace, UR, local producers, local dj's and even the occasional
D1SCO, at least 90% of The Archiver sets.

The Archiver
http://www.thearchiver.net
http://www.d1.ie


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) OT: Portable Recorder (same question as always)

zoom h4 if i say the model correctly comes very highly recommended. i
think its a good list topic.

On 11/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What portable do you guys use for recording sets / field recordings.
My
 latest MD player is dying.

 Please reply off-list unless other interested folks reply on-list.

 Thanks,

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RE: (313) OT: Portable Recorder (same question as always)

2007-11-23 Thread Toby Frith

I think I looked into installing Rockbox once, but it got messy as I have a 
Mac. I'll have a look again on misticriver.



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To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: Toby Frith; Mann, Ravinder; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) OT: Portable Recorder (same question as always)


Toby...

Are you using Rockbox? That should address those problems. I use Rockbox on my 
iRiver exclusively.
It is far better - especially for recording. And yes, Ken, it can record wavs 
(amongst other
things).

I keep think about buying a fancy new slim mp3 player, but I have yet to find 
anything as good as
my sturdy iRiver. Plus, it is large and heavy enough to be used in hand to hand 
combat :)

N

 Hang on, did someone say it records wavs post the upgrade? Interesting
 ...

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 From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 23 November 2007 10:34
 To: Mann, Ravinder; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) OT: Portable Recorder (same question as always)



 The only thing about the H320 is that it will cut out after a certain
 time at higher kbps rates of recording and you can't monitor the levels.



 -Original Message-
 From: Mann, Ravinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 16 November 2007 11:11
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) OT: Portable Recorder (same question as always)


 It does record tho ive rarely used it.

 I can speak up for its :
 robustness - its tough
 reliability - not one disk crash or glitch with 3 yrs of almost daily
 use sound - one of the best for an mp3 player

 The Rockbox upgrade works wonder apparently.

 Rav

 -Original Message-
 From: The Archiver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 16 November 2007 00:46
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) OT: Portable Recorder (same question as always)


 The European version of the iRiver H320/340 comes highly recommended,
 we've recorded everyone (well everyone who agreed...) from DJ Bone,
 Akufen, Stefan Roberts/Terrace, UR, local producers, local dj's and even
 the occasional D1SCO, at least 90% of The Archiver sets.

 The Archiver
 http://www.thearchiver.net
 http://www.d1.ie


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 Sent: 15 November 2007 22:29
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) OT: Portable Recorder (same question as always)

 zoom h4 if i say the model correctly comes very highly recommended. i
 think its a good list topic.

 On 11/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What portable do you guys use for recording sets / field recordings.
 My
 latest MD player is dying.

 Please reply off-list unless other interested folks reply on-list.

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(313) NWAQ LP

2007-11-19 Thread Toby Frith

The new NWAQ LP is stunning - one of the best I've heard this year. Great work 
as always from Jochem.



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(313) Bleep43 podcast

2007-11-08 Thread Toby Frith

This week's show features a guest mix by NYC's Brad Rhodes and some new bits 
from Jus-Ed and Sorcerer..



http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show76.mp3

Sorcerer - Egyptian Sunset
Chromatics - In The City
Fairmont - Calm before the Storm
BRAD RHODES MIX
Logic System - Into
Moskwa TV - Submarine
Code 61 - Drop the Deal
Soma Holiday - Shake Your Molecules
Rational Youth - Le Meilleur Des Mondes
Pete Shelley - Witness the Change
Koto - Chinese Revenge
Heaven 17 - Let Me Go!
Cabaret Voltaire- Sensoria
Dominatrix - The Dominatrix Sleeps Tonight
New Order - Thieves Like Us
John Carpenter - The End (Disco Version)
Smokey Robinson - And I Don't Love You (Larry Levan Dub)
Section 25 - Looking From a Hilltop
Alexander Robotnick - Problemes D'Amour
Yello- No More Words
Europe - Unisexappeal
International Music System - Dancing Therapy
Japan - Life in Tokyo
Klein  MBO - Dirty Talk
Gino Soccio - Remember
DJ Qu - Repozitioned Soul
Soulomon - The Unknown
Jus-Ed - Project 38
Larry Heard - Balance
Gemini - New Style Of
Paul Johnson - The Music in Me
Theo Parrish - Solitary Flight

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RE: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think

2007-11-08 Thread Toby Frith

Burial got a lot of exposure because he produced an album. Individual tracks on 
EPs here and there by artists already mentioned will never get the same amount 
of impact, especially on places like Pitchfork or even the Wire which still get 
excited by the old format.





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Sent: 08 November 2007 15:58
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think


Interesting to watch a discussion like this blow up.  I see everyone's
points in the whole matter.  I think I would react differently if I'd
grown up in the UK and heard more of the good and the bad, and been
exposed to the culture surrounding various genres, I'd hear the music
differently.

The context in the US is different.  Unless you spend a lot of time
watching the UK scene, you only hear what bubbles to the top of the
pile. What I find interesting is how many Indie rock types in the US
picked up on Burial.  Probably looks like poor misguided Yanks getting
it wrong again to people in the UK.  OTOH to us, it looks like you
drive on the wrong side of the road and add an extra syllable to
aluminum to sound posh.

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RE: (313) votes

2007-10-24 Thread Toby Frith

So does Corsica Studios


-Original Message-
From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 October 2007 14:35
To: Alan Heneghan; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) votes


 http://www.funktion-one.com/FF6000.htm

Al check the link, funktion 1 started re making them. The Panarama Bar
in Berlin has one I think

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From: Alan Heneghan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 October 2007 14:18
To: Paul Kendrick; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) votes

I own a AH 62 and really like the sound of it, but find it a bit
cramped sometimes, but superb at home.

I'm also a big fan of the Formula Sound PM80 (a mixer that has been out
of production for over 10 years, very popular with sound engineers) and
Ecler SCLAT100.
Both, 19 rack mounted, super clean signal path, no effects, tank like
workhorses.
Played on an original UREI at a club once, but as mentioned, the lack of
EQ was daft.

So out of the choices given, 62.


Alan Heneghan

 



 From: Paul Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:17:12 +0100
 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
 Conversation: (313) votes
 Subject: RE: (313) votes
 
 I agree with Tom on this every mixer has unnecessary features and lots

 are badly laid out, gains on the back is just silly. I am still to 
 find the perfect mixer..
 
 Im currently using this, vestax PMC-CX
 
  http://www.vestax.com/v/products/mixers/pmc-cx.html
 
 Not the best, EQ could be better and the filters are pointless I don't

 think mixers should have FX like this. It just annoys me when you hear

 people using them all the time to cover there bad mixing.if you 
 want FX buy a separate unit
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 October 2007 12:58
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) votes
 
 On 10/24/07, Alan Heneghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gains on the back are to stop IDIOT DJs turning them up and 
 destroying
 
 sound systems.
 
 so people who play 70's LP cuts next to 00's 12 cuts have to pay the 
 price for morons? wrong answer. that mixer with the gains on the back 
 is the biggest pile of sh*t ive ever used in my entire life.
 
 that said, i dont like any of the popular mixers. ive played on ahs, 
 vestaxes, numarks, eclers, ranes, etc. not one of them has ever made 
 me feel like i needed to go out and buy one. that said, ive never 
 messed with a classic rotary mixer either, but they dont have built in

 EQs which is also stupid. the people who make and design mixers are 
 just plain old bad at what they do in my opinion. there's always too 
 much crap on there you dont need.
 
 tom

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RE: (313) votes

2007-10-24 Thread Toby Frith

I dunno, Tristan's the person to speak to on that. 



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From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 October 2007 14:39
To: Toby Frith; Alan Heneghan; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) votes


Really!!

Whats it like to play on??  Are the Eqs any good and are the FXs on
pointless?? 

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From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 October 2007 14:33
To: Paul Kendrick; Alan Heneghan; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) votes


So does Corsica Studios


-Original Message-
From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 October 2007 14:35
To: Alan Heneghan; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) votes


 http://www.funktion-one.com/FF6000.htm

Al check the link, funktion 1 started re making them. The Panarama Bar
in Berlin has one I think

-Original Message-
From: Alan Heneghan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 October 2007 14:18
To: Paul Kendrick; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) votes

I own a AH 62 and really like the sound of it, but find it a bit
cramped sometimes, but superb at home.

I'm also a big fan of the Formula Sound PM80 (a mixer that has been out
of production for over 10 years, very popular with sound engineers) and
Ecler SCLAT100.
Both, 19 rack mounted, super clean signal path, no effects, tank like
workhorses.
Played on an original UREI at a club once, but as mentioned, the lack of
EQ was daft.

So out of the choices given, 62.


Alan Heneghan

 



 From: Paul Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:17:12 +0100
 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
 Conversation: (313) votes
 Subject: RE: (313) votes
 
 I agree with Tom on this every mixer has unnecessary features and lots

 are badly laid out, gains on the back is just silly. I am still to 
 find the perfect mixer..
 
 Im currently using this, vestax PMC-CX
 
  http://www.vestax.com/v/products/mixers/pmc-cx.html
 
 Not the best, EQ could be better and the filters are pointless I don't

 think mixers should have FX like this. It just annoys me when you hear

 people using them all the time to cover there bad mixing.if you 
 want FX buy a separate unit
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 October 2007 12:58
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) votes
 
 On 10/24/07, Alan Heneghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gains on the back are to stop IDIOT DJs turning them up and 
 destroying
 
 sound systems.
 
 so people who play 70's LP cuts next to 00's 12 cuts have to pay the 
 price for morons? wrong answer. that mixer with the gains on the back 
 is the biggest pile of sh*t ive ever used in my entire life.
 
 that said, i dont like any of the popular mixers. ive played on ahs, 
 vestaxes, numarks, eclers, ranes, etc. not one of them has ever made 
 me feel like i needed to go out and buy one. that said, ive never 
 messed with a classic rotary mixer either, but they dont have built in

 EQs which is also stupid. the people who make and design mixers are 
 just plain old bad at what they do in my opinion. there's always too 
 much crap on there you dont need.
 
 tom

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RE: (313) Re: Dubstep Geneology

2007-10-10 Thread Toby Frith

Emile and I used to shop at Big Apple in Croydon, and it's interesting seeing 
all the little whippersnappers who populated the shop in the days when you 
could buy a Chain Reaction record in there (the shop changed hands a few years 
ago) now being big names in this genre, such as Benga and Hatcha (real name 
Terry). Arthur Smith, who recorded as Grain, is one of the key influences in 
this techno element. His Red EP is still my favourite record...

http://www.discogs.com/release/82528





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From: Emile Facey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 October 2007 12:15
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Mann, Ravinder; Martin Dust; 313 List
Subject: Re: (313) Re: Dubstep Geneology


 From a grandads (not sure if I count at only 35) point of view, the  
Dubstep sound kind of passed me by because I couldn't hear a massive  
amount of originality in there. Don't get me wrong, I like some of it  
a lot but it got hyped up as 'the new sound' a few years ago. Kind of  
reminds me of getting into drum and bass when it started and thinking  
it was a totally original sound, nowadays I still love the early DB  
but I realise how massively influenced it was by Detroit techno.

Still, it's nice to know that some of the local youth (I live in  
Croydon) are indoors making tracks instead of out muggin' old ladies ;)

E


On 10 Oct 2007, at 12:01, Robert Taylor wrote:

 Tony Thorpe's making dubstep now


 Rob Taylor
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 x8599
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 -Original Message-
 From: Mann, Ravinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10 October 2007 11:48
 To: Martin Dust
 Cc: 313 List
 Subject: RE: (313) Re: Dubstep Geneology

 Haha big up all Granddads in the House . .

 Id be interested in any old timers take on Dubstep production, how far
 back would the influences go ? Would they include Detriot strings ?
 Would they include 80's northern bass  ? i.e. waiting for Pauls  
 material
 to drop, any clues Martin ?

 Rav

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 From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10 October 2007 11:22
 To: Mann, Ravinder
 Cc: 313 List
 Subject: Re: (313) Re: Dubstep Geneology



 On 10 Oct 2007, at 11:11, Mann, Ravinder wrote:

 Seen lots of discussions about the Dubstep to UK garage/2 step
 link. But
 I always link Dubstep with Sheffields bleep'n'bass from the late 80's
 and the 90's Berlin dub sound. But then again im 41 not 21 : )

 True enough Rav, but you'll get the thousand yard stare if you
 mention it, granddad :)

 The biggest influence of Dubstep is EL-B, he produced some of the
 darkest UK garage for a long time.

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(313) Any Detroit classics mixes out there?

2007-10-04 Thread Toby Frith

I'm looking for any online mixes which are essentially composed strictly of 
classic Detroit tracks. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Toby


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RE: (313) moebius documentary

2007-10-01 Thread Toby Frith

It's not Ralf Hutter I believe, it's Karl Bartos.



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Subject: (313) moebius documentary


Howdy. I saw a Moebius doco (2006) a few days ago, soundtrack by Ralf
Hutter. Pretty amazing stuff. Does anyone know if it: s released, can be
bouvght etc?

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(313) Bleep43 - Fri 21/9 w/ Surgeon, Legowelt, NWAQ and more.

2007-09-14 Thread Toby Frith

Gentle reminder for any London-based 313'ers next week. We're all looking 
forward to this one a lot.

Bleep43 5th Birthday

Friday 21st September @ Corsica Studios, Elephant Road, London

SURGEON
LEGOWELT (live)
NEWWORLDAQUARIUM
JONNY MCINTOSH
PLANT43 (live)
JO JOHNSON (live)
BLEEP43 DJs

10 - 6 am

£12 tickets available from Phonica, SOTU, Vinyl Junkies, paypal via [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] or at WGT

http://www.wegottickets.com/event/19882


Facebook link
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=17554878936


http://www.bleep43.com

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(313) RE: [SPAM] - Re: (313) A few words about A Guy Called Gerald... - Email found in subject

2007-09-04 Thread Toby Frith

sacrilege I expect, but I never saw the fuss about Voodoo Ray.



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I'm not debating that. I'm saying he lost me as I'm not a huge fan of  
DB. I really love his earlier work with house/techno.

robin...

On 4 Sep 2007, at 14:11, Martin Dust wrote:

 Really, Black Secret Technology is a true blueprint if ask me.

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(313) Bleep43 ---Surgeon/Legowelt/NWAQ + more

2007-08-10 Thread Toby Frith

Heads up for London-based 313'ers..been 5 years since our first sojourn down at 
Public Life.  Looking forward to hearing Jochem spin, ex-313er Jonny McIntosh 
returns, a live debut from Jo Johnson and Plant43 celebrates the imminent 
release of his next 12 on Ai. 





BLEEP43 5th BIRTHDAY

FRI 21st SEPTEMBER @ CORSICA STUDIOS, LONDON

SURGEON
LEGOWELT (live)
NEWWORLDAQUARIUM
JONNY MCINTOSH
PLANT43 (live)
JO JOHNSON (live)
BLEEP43 DJs

10 - 6AM 

Adv tickets from http://www.wegottickets.com/event/19882, paypal also accepted. 
Tickets also in SOTU, Rough Trade, Vinyl Junkies, Phonica from August Bank 
Holiday Weekend.

http://www.bleep43.com
http://www.dj-surgeon.com
http://www.legowelt.com
http://www.nwaq.com
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http://www.airecords.com
http://www.corsicastudios.com




(313) Juan @ Spacebase

2007-08-06 Thread Toby Frith

Really enjoyed this. Started off with Convextion, and whilst he played some 
obvious bits (Moroder, Strings of Life etc) he held my attention for a good 90 
minutes before I succumbed. I like his charisma on the decks as well - he's 
always looking at the crowd. He's not the best DJ in terms of technique, but he 
always plays solid material.





RE: (313) Round One - I'm Your Brother (Quadrant Dub II) (9:42)

2007-07-04 Thread Toby Frith
One of Dance Music finest treasures...



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Subject: Re: (313) Round One - I'm Your Brother (Quadrant Dub II) (9:42)


It's the same as side A on this: http://www.discogs.com/release/2166


On 7/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 track #3
 http://www.discogs.com/release/581

 was it ever released on vinyl?




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RE: (313) Justice (Into Model 500/Convextion)

2007-07-02 Thread Toby Frith
ooohhh!


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Sent: 02 July 2007 14:42
To: kent williams
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Subject: RE: (313) Justice (Into Model 500/Convextion)


Phew!

OK, to get things somewhat back on topic, and as people mentioned M500
used in a commercial ...

Was reading on another forum that Starlight by Model 500 (co-produced by
Mortiz von Oswald) has been remixed by Convextion and a special package
of the original and the new mix are due to be released on echospace
[detroit].

Ken


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To: Odeluga, Ken
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Subject: Re: (313) Justice

No.

On 7/2/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am giving myself an award today.

 Because until a couple of weeks ago when some floodgate opened in the
 heavens on to Great Britain, and in the virtual world into 313, I'd
 never heard of Justice, Ed Banger, and Spank Rock etc. (DJ Funk of
 course is somewhat more well-established.)

 Two weeks later I still have not heard of these people, nor any of
their
 music and by the look of the discussion about it, I think I'm
 grateful!

 But am I gob-smackingly out of touch?

 K


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(313) Bleep43 podcast

2007-06-29 Thread Toby Frith
This week features new bits by Luke Vibert plus a mix with some classic Detroit 
by the mysterious 21st Century Global Slumlord. 

http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show62.mp3 

Tracklisting

Man Parrish - Heatstroke 
Change - The End 
Herman Schwartz - Replicant's Suffering 
Unique 3 - The Theme (Autechre Remix) 
The Ace of Clubs - Whorcan 
Gary Numan - Cars 
Bjork - Verterbrae by Verterbrae 
Cluster - Zum Wohl 
Pliiant - The Night the World made sense 
Stephan Mathieu  Janek Schaefer - Fugue 
Robert Hampson  Steven Hess - Part Two 
21st Century Global Slumlord mix 
Stewart Walker - Classic Science Fiction http://www.discogs.com/release/34297 
Regis - Asbestos (Sleeparchive Remix) http://www.discogs.com/release/508018 
Joyrex - Italic Eyeball http://www.discogs.com/release/4700 
Vainqueur - Solanus (Original) http://www.discogs.com/release/25926 
Thomas Brinkmann - Susi 1 http://www.discogs.com/release/21369 
Red Planet - Stardancer http://www.discogs.com/release/12482 
Jake Mandell - Brocolli Crisis http://www.discogs.com/release/122617 
Stewart Walker - Dim  Turbulent Mornings http://www.discogs.com/release/5410 
CoH - Path #3 (Dynamo Baby Bore Me Numb) http://www.discogs.com/release/714111 
Surgeon - Remnants Of What Once Was http://www.discogs.com/release/14104 
Oscar Mulero - CV Is Dead http://www.discogs.com/release/43520 
Anders Ilar - A Day Ago http://www.discogs.com/release/819063 
Marcell Dettmann - Radio Drum http://www.discogs.com/release/753032 
Jeff Mills - Eclipse http://www.discogs.com/release/141 
Black Dog - Vir2l http://www.discogs.com/release/35668 
Bleep - Cycle 92 http://www.discogs.com/release/636531 
Proteus Speaks, Inseminates http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075931/ 
Iannis Xenakis - Voyage Absolu Des Unari Vers Adromede 
http://www.discogs.com/release/219347 
Black Boat Band - ?

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(313) Bleep43 podcast

2007-06-15 Thread Toby Frith
This week includes some Detroit electro at the start

Show 60 

http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show60.mp3 

Dopplereffekt - Hyperelliptic Surfaces - http://www.discogs.com/release/989815 
Urban Tribe - EEG - http://www.discogs.com/release/938293 
Sonar Base - Welcome to Sonar Base 4 - http://www.discogs.com/release/978483 
Thomas Fehlmann - Little Big Horn (Liegend) 
http://www.discogs.com/release/978929 
Touane - Potato Nose http://www.discogs.com/release/966483 
Elliott Dodge - Angels http://www.discogs.com/release/659032 
XDB - Descap (live) http://www.discogs.com/release/924645 
Convextion - Miranda (Echocord remix) http://www.discogs.com/release/846984 
DJ Jus-Ed - 43 Ambeant March http://www.discogs.com/release/641957 
Von Sudenfed - Flooded 
Kathy Diamond - Between The Lines http://www.discogs.com/release/958826 
Andy Stott - Unknown Exception http://www.discogs.com/release/972816 
Pan Sonic - Lähetys - http://www.discogs.com/release/965576 
Elegi- TIme Lapse http://www.discogs.com/release/954508 
Senking - Pathogenic Agent http://www.discogs.com/release/935355 
Porn Sword Tobacco - Do the Astrowaltz - http://www.discogs.com/release/955069 
September Collective - Light Writing 
http://www.discogs.com/artist/September+Collective 
Colleen - Blue Sands http://www.discogs.com/release/977413 
Proem - When Things Fall Apart - http://www.discogs.com/release/963810 
Damiak - Tall Hat Greeting http://www.discogs.com/artist/Damiak 
SubtractiveLAD - Petal http://www.discogs.com/release/623596 
Bola - W.I.K http://www.discogs.com/release/1923 
Masaru Satoh - Yojimbo OST http://www.discogs.com/release/864113


http://www.bleep43recordings.com

Bleep43 5th Birthday - Fri 21/9 @ Corsica Studios, London with Surgeon, 
Legowelt and Newworldaquarium. 


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(313) Calabi Yau Space

2007-06-12 Thread Toby Frith
The new Dopplereffekt LP is out on Rephlex and it's more abstraction from Mr 
Donald. I'm really enjoying this phase from him - you're not quite sure what to 
expect with each release, and he's drifting further and further away from 
beat-driven tracks. 

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RE: (313) black devil disco club provenance

2007-06-07 Thread Toby Frith
Surely the LP title gives it away?

It's 28 years after the first one, which was in 1978 I believe. 


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From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 June 2007 08:54
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Subject: (313) black devil disco club provenance


Having just had a several hour Ableton Live warping party -- including
several old Salsoul classics, which I'm sure are hell to beatmatch on
vinyl -- I've come to a conclusion about the Black Devil Disco Club
'28 After' album:  All the tracks are of recent vintage.

Why? The tempo is rock solid all the way through.  A computer was
involved, or at a minimum, the drummer was playing to a very steady
click.  I'm not sure a drummer was actually used for the tracks at
all, based on the regularity of the beats.  I don't know which is more
impressive -- a drummer that can play for 6 minutes rock steady down
to the millesecond, or how carefully they faked a live drummer.  Or,
for that matter, how organically the live and machine drumming is put
together, if both are used.

In other words, it's a tremendously well done fake of the sound of
1982, done recently, which incidentally is some of my favorite Italo.

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RE: (313) black devil disco club provenance

2007-06-07 Thread Toby Frith
Aaargh, Fennesz  Mike Patton  Nurse with Wound today?

What am I doing here at work in London...



-Original Message-
From: KiDD*e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 June 2007 10:19
To: Three-One-Three
Subject: Re: (313) black devil disco club provenance


Talking about Black Devil Disco Club, Bernard Fèvre will be playing this
Staturday afternoon followed by Daniele Baldelli.
Free, outside on the grass, La Villette, Paris.

http://www.d-i-r-t-y.com/
http://www.villettesonique.com/spip.php?page=programme
http://www.villettesonique.com/spip.php?page=artisteid_article=78
http://www.villettesonique.com/spip.php?page=artisteid_article=79


- Original Message - 
From: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: (313) black devil disco club provenance


 Surely the LP title gives it away?

 It's 28 years after the first one, which was in 1978 I believe.


 -Original Message-
 From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 07 June 2007 08:54
 To: list 313
 Subject: (313) black devil disco club provenance


 Having just had a several hour Ableton Live warping party -- including
 several old Salsoul classics, which I'm sure are hell to beatmatch on
 vinyl -- I've come to a conclusion about the Black Devil Disco Club
 '28 After' album:  All the tracks are of recent vintage.

 Why? The tempo is rock solid all the way through.  A computer was
 involved, or at a minimum, the drummer was playing to a very steady
 click.  I'm not sure a drummer was actually used for the tracks at
 all, based on the regularity of the beats.  I don't know which is more
 impressive -- a drummer that can play for 6 minutes rock steady down
 to the millesecond, or how carefully they faked a live drummer.  Or,
 for that matter, how organically the live and machine drumming is put
 together, if both are used.

 In other words, it's a tremendously well done fake of the sound of
 1982, done recently, which incidentally is some of my favorite Italo.

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RE: (313) Shake

2007-06-06 Thread Toby Frith
there's a superb Juan Atkins @ Metroplex, Detroit, 1998 that I'd love to get a 
tracklist for. It's got some amazing tracks on it.



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Sent: 06 June 2007 09:59
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Shake



Fair point. You're right :)

http://mixesdb.com

robin...

Robert Taylor wrote:
 The source site of that mix is well worth checking out - there's
 hundreds of mixes! 
 

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RE: (313) Jeff Mills Article in the Metro Times

2007-05-24 Thread Toby Frith
yeah, really enjoyed that - thanks for sharing.



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Sent: 24 May 2007 15:29
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Jeff Mills Article in the Metro Times


http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=10535

Very good atricle. I love it when the Metro Times goes deep!

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RE: (313) ncw mix for to the bone

2007-05-15 Thread Toby Frith
Check his v.amusing podcast as well

http://www.learningfunnel.com



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Sent: 15 May 2007 14:38
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) ncw mix for to the bone


my man nick wilson just dropped a new ableton mix, he does these
things the way they should be done!

http://www.tothebone.co.uk/NCW_TTB.mp3

Noam Chomsky - Propaganda and Control of the Public Mind
Matmos - For Felix
eLph - Red Scratch
Coil - Theme From Blue 1
Aphex Twin - The Snow Answers Come In Dreams (Coil Mix)
Blake Baxter - Ghost
Patrick Cowley - Megatron Man
Henrik Rylander - Destroyer
Nick Wilson - Vault
Rhythm  Sound - Mash Down Babylon
Ghislain Poirier - Ailleurs
Animal - Oil Come All Ye Faithful
Beaks - Aventure
Mathes - Tapes
The Threshold House Boys Choir - So Young It Knows No Maturing
Sendex - Evidence
Ruck Edits - I Can Do It
Jock Hattle - Yes No Family
Track Ghost - Amethyst
Deicide - I Am No-one
Talking Heads - Pull Up The Roots
Kate Bush - How To Be Invisible
Wu Tang Clan - Tears
Math Nerds - Tauntology
The Smiths - How Soon Is Now?

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RE: (313) RIP Cybernetic Broadcasting System.

2007-05-03 Thread Toby Frith
Totally. The CBS is a shining light on the internet. Gutted.



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Sent: 03 May 2007 05:45
To: list 313
Subject: (313) RIP Cybernetic Broadcasting System.


I'm devastated...

http://www.cbs.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=17775

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RE: (313) RIP Cybernetic Broadcasting System.

2007-05-03 Thread Toby Frith
I think that does the CBS a disservice, just saying that it played bad 
European dance music. I've heard some amazing records on there, not just Italo 
or Synth, but electro, techno and some more unusual experimental material. And 
it was a lot of fun.


-Original Message-
From: pauley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 May 2007 04:37
To: Toby Frith; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) RIP Cybernetic Broadcasting System.


Uh well...once you've got the mp3's of the last 20 years (cream of...of
course)of bad european dance music then it's time to move on...and all
(old)school is only as relevant as it's relevant...saying that I'm just
buzzing out to roxy music:for your pleasure 'in every dream a
heartache'...WOW!!!

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Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:17 AM
To: Patrick Wacher; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) RIP Cybernetic Broadcasting System.

Totally. The CBS is a shining light on the internet. Gutted.



-Original Message-
From: Patrick Wacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 May 2007 05:45
To: list 313
Subject: (313) RIP Cybernetic Broadcasting System.


I'm devastated...

http://www.cbs.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=17775

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RE: (313) London- Outlet present Substance- live an Marco Passarani

2007-05-02 Thread Toby Frith
Looking forward to this. Passarani's one of the few techno DJs left who knows 
how to inject fun onto the dancefloor.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 May 2007 13:21
To: 313
Subject: (313) London- Outlet present Substance- live an Marco Passarani


 
The Outlet Collective present... 

For the first time ever on one of mankind's favourite planets, the debut 
performance of: 

SUBSTANCE - LIVE 
(ChainReaction / ScionVersions / Hardwax - Berlin) 

With very special guest DJ 

MARCO PASSARANI (Pigna / Nature / Peacefrog - Rome) 

Alongside Jamie Steere  The Outlet DJ Crew 

Saturday 2nd June 2007. 10pm - 5am. 
@ 483 Hackney Road, London, E2 9ED (w/Funktion 1 sound). 
Admission: £8 adv. via [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 07967 332 964 / £10 on the door 


Anyone fancy a read?  

SUBSTANCE - Exclusive debut LIVE performance 

Instrumental in the development of the sound of the legendary Basic Channel 
off-shoot, Chain Reaction, Pete Kuschnereit's recordings as Substance have in 
turn helped shape Berlin's rich heritage in modern electronic music; a heritage 
which more than 10 years on is resonating throughout today's musical landscape 
stronger than ever before. 

Despite being an in-demand DJ and remixer, continuing to man the counter at 
Berlin's Hardwax record store and promoters and party goers worldwide still 
clambering for a taste of the live Scion experience, Pete along with Scion 
partner Vainquer (a.k.a. Rene Lowe) recently found time to resurrect their 
production partnership. Launching a new label, Scion Versions, both new and 
archive material from the Chain Reaction vaults are planned and things have 
kicked off in typically fine style thanks to the first two releases, 
'Surface/Immersion' and the current 'Reverberation/Reverberate'. During the 
course of 2006 Substance also dropped what we believe to be some of the finest 
remixes of recent years in the form of his 2 contrasting reworks of Monolake's 
'Alaska'. 

In his various guises, Pete is no stranger to OC parties and, having previously 
both DJ'ed and performed the 'Arrange And Process Basic Channel' project as 
part of Scion, by now he knows what makes you all tick and knowing Pete he'll 
take pleasure in incorporating this knowledge into his battleplan. 

MARCO PASSARANI 

With a career spanning 2 decades, producer, remixer, DJ, label  distribution 
company boss (Nature  Pigna and Final Frontier respectively), Marco Passarani 
is truly worthy of his worldwide reputation for being THE pivotal presence 
within the Italian techno/electronica scene. His studio legacy, which covers 
the breadth of the techno and electronica spectrum, boasts a list of 
productions that is stronger and longer than some of that bog-roll that gets 
caught up 'round one of those insufferably cute puppies! Marco's work has 
graced a stellar array of labels including Rephlex, Skam, Clone, Generator, 
Hymen and an album deal with stalwart UK imprint, Peacefrog which has so far 
brought us the rather fantastic 'Sullen Look' LP and the promise of more 
material to come. In the meantime, with his ongoing Analogue Finger Prints 
project and as part of Pigna People, Marco has be turning out 1st class 
dancefloor material fusing the influence of Detroit techno, electro-funk and 
the time-honoured sound of Italian disco to extremely potent effect - Most 
recently delivering an ass-shakingly good Pigna People remix for Bounce's 12 
on Glasgow imprint, Wireblock/PointOne. 

Marco was recently overheard light-heartedly describing his Djing as the 
pursuit of sweat... But in all seriousness, add to that aching feet and a 
contented grin and previous experience tells us that's exactly what those 
congregated will be left with come dawn... Man gonna make you dance! 

JAMIE STEERE 

An excellent DJ in his own right, long term friend of the OC-fold, Jamie will 
no doubt be dropping an immaculate selection of sounds inspired by Chicago, 
Berlin  Detroit along with anything else he decides to treat us to. Having 
first collaborated with Jamie some 7 years ago, OC thoroughly look forward to 
his long overdue return and advise ya'll to arrive early so ya don't miss 
out... 


Lastly AND, in this case, 'leastly', The Outlet DJ Crew will kick things of 
with the usual spiked cocktail of techno, house, disco and whatever else they 
can get away with spinning... 

Wouldn't be the same without ya's! 


www.scion.de 
www.djpete.de 
www.basicchannel.com 
www.finalfrontier.it 
www.myspace/passarani 
www.outletcollective.org 


RE: (313) Most Cherished 313 Vinyl.

2007-04-27 Thread Toby Frith
UR038 - Codebreaker

Just because.

-Original Message-
From: Lee Herrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 April 2007 16:59
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Most Cherished 313 Vinyl.


It's Friday, and I'm curious.  

What would you cats consider your most prized piece of 313-related vinyl?

For me, if you'd care to know, it would have to be Dan Curtin's Silicon
Dawn LP.  I remember someone from DEEP records turning me on to that
release, and from there I just started eating up anything with a similar
sound.

Discuss.

Cheers,

lrh


RE: (313) OT - another Richie clone

2007-04-26 Thread Toby Frith
Perfected by Italo-disco legends My Mine..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMBvnPX3BK4


-Original Message-
From: theREALmxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 April 2007 12:50
To: Martin Dust; 313 Org
Subject: Re: (313) OT - another Richie clone


Ah - the old 'extended devil-lock'.
Quite the rage back then and Mr. Oakey might have even been a bit late 
on the bus with that one. What needs to be appreciated is how much of a 
PITA it is having to deal with it in your eyes/face all of the time (and 
it was part of the look to have it hanging over one eye).
Somewhere in my closet is a skeleton from around 1980 with shaved 
temples, a devil-lock and a 'tail' (I was a teenage - well, 20-something 
- punk-clubber). 6-7 years later, people thought it was cute to extend 
the 'tail' fashion to children. Looks like the extended devil-lock may 
have been in some kind of dormant-viral stage, waiting to erupt upon 
what was probably the generation of children with tails. Fashion can be 
brutal.

 j




 The both nicked it off Phil Oakey to start with anyway ;)
 
 http://www.ex-rental.com/blindyouth/NMELeague002.jpg
 
 
 -
 

 OK list, I don't who this guy is (and pls, don't tell me), but if
 copying someone else's music style isn't enough crap, what can you say
 about someone who also copies his hairstyle

 http://www.rraurl.com/cena/texto.php?id=3564
 
 
 


(313) Bleep43 podcast

2007-04-23 Thread Toby Frith
Plant43 live and Jamie Steere this week

http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show54.mp3

Plant43 live recorded at Bleep43 9.3.07

Jamie Steere tracklisting

Owltro 
Gemini - The Voice Inside My Head (Classic) 
Andy Stott - Merciless (Modern Love) 
2000  One - Get Down (Intacto) 
DWA - DWA (Recognition) 
Mike Dunn Presents MDIII - Set Me Free (Clone Classic Cuts) 
STAX - Straight Nasty (Classic) 
DJ Sneak - Show Me the Way (Henry Street) 
Digital Mystikz - Anti-War Dub (DMZ) 
Ratio - Motorcity Revisited (Daniel Bell Mix) (Central) 
Modeselektor - Silikon (Siriusmo Remix) (BPitch) 
TronikHouse - Up Tempo (KMS) 
Dan Curtin - Worktime (Tuning Spork) 
Wolf 'N' Flow - I'm Feelin Moody (Moody Recordings) 
DJ Assassin - A Face Amongst the Crowd (Cross Section) 
Junction SM - Ma Mere L'Oye (Kalk Pets) 
W.B. - Nativetonguetwisterhood (WB) 
Alter Ego - Lycra (Wishmountain Tight Fitting Lycra Mix 2) (Klang) 
Move D - Hood (City Centre Offices)

http://www.bleep43recordings.com




RE: (313) Âme Fiori =RiR remixed!

2007-04-19 Thread Toby Frith
Zoolookogie in 1984 is great. Essentially JMJ was utterly rinsed back in the 
day, as he was literally everywhere. If he hadn't been so big, he'd be 
considered a bit of a legend. Arpegiator is a magnificent record.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 April 2007 09:29
To: 313@Hyperreal.Org
Subject: RE: (313) Âme Fiori =RiR remixed!


I guess that's just one of those questions that I could try to answer all day 
with lots of reasoned argument but at the end of the
day it's a subjective thing of just liking the music.  As much as I like it 
though I must admit he never topped his debut Oxygene (I
think it was his debut?) - it was pretty much downhill all the way from day one!

Nevertheless check out Oxygene pt.2.  To me it just shouts ELECTRONIC! 
FUTURE!.  Made in 1976.  Maybe it doesn't shout that to
today's kids, maybe it sounds normal.  But he did it back then.  And then again 
it can't be that old hat when I hear that Ame track
and instantly think of him and people are saying that's hot.


 -Original Message-
 From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 All the JMJ I ever heard sounded cheesy to me, but maybe I 
 missed something that wasn't. Why is he considered so good by some?
 ~David


(313) Bleep43 podcast - this week Prosumer

2007-04-17 Thread Toby Frith
This week's show is by Panorama Bar resident Prosumer, so expect quality house 
recorded live at To The Bone on 31/3/07 @ 54. 

http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show53.mp3

No tracklisting sadly...


RE: FW: (313) $tinkworx and Convextion Surgeon

2007-03-12 Thread Toby Frith
We were very spoilt! The soundsystem was a joy to behold, especially when it 
seems that for so long the only venues in London with something approaching a 
system of any worth were out of the reach of underground party promoters, 
especially those wanting to put on techno or electro.

It's worth adding that I went to T-Bar to see Sleeparchive the night before, 
which also has a Funktion 1 rig. It sounded awful.

Many thanks to all on 313 who came down and supported us. My memories of the 
night are something of a blur, and I was DJing whilst JT was on so it was a 
shame to miss him, but Gerard and Tony made up for that in spectacular style.

I don't think there's a better techno DJ than Surgeon right now. I guess I 
would say that, given that he just played for us, but he has a balance of the 
right kind of records that techno is about. He avoids the tribal generic looped 
nonsense that nearly ruined techno, and manages to give an overview of the 
roots of the genre without resorting to yawn-inducing classics like other DJs 
like Mills or May or making it some sort of nostalgic retrospective. There's 
proper NYC electro, Detroit, Chicago, Warp, UK techno, rave  and whilst it's 
all mixed incredibly smoothly due to Ableton, he's essentially using the format 
of the DJ of the future in the manner that it's meant to be used. Techno is 
still a futuristic concept in music, and he's grasped that fully. I think the 
fact that he's fully soaked up the industrial/experimental heritage of UK acts 
such as Throbbing Gristle, Coil and Autechre is a vital aspect too. 

When someone like him does it so well, someone playing on decks just seems a 
little redundant, although please note that I'm not criticising that format. 
The important thing to note is that he just sounds better than anyone else. 
He obviously applies some studio magic to all the tracks he plays with, and it 
just literally sounds immense. I've not heard anyone sound so rich since, er 
Kraftwerk.





-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 March 2007 10:57
To: robin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Toby Frith
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: FW: (313) $tinkworx and Convextion


Not wishing to rub it in, merely to point out...that the sound for the
London gig was probably the best many people may hear for this kind of
music ever: we had a fairly newly-installed Funktion One rig for a
start. But to top it all, the engineers who designed and installed it
about 3 months ago, came down on Friday night. They spent 2 hours
tweaking it at the beginning of the evening (we saw them 'sweeping the
freqs with some sort software aid) and then they hung around till the
end to make sure things stayed sweet. We were spoilt in fact.


-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 March 2007 10:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: FW: (313) $tinkworx and Convextion


Yeah I thought the PA, though big enough, lacked a little balance and 
control in parts of the room.

I should get some cheap earplugs just in case.

I was just amazed that someone in Manchester had got a decent PA in for 
a gig!

robin...


Nik Stoltzman wrote:
 Mixing good artists with bad PAs makes me sad. Like eating fillet
steak and eating it well-done
 with ketchup.
 
 I hear what you are saying about ear damage... I have started wearing
earplugs regularly now. Only
 some cheapo ones, but they still make a hell of a difference. I am
seriously considering buying
 some custom-moulded ones because for a couple of hundred quid it is
definitely worth it. Some
 clubs I have been to actually have little earplug-dispenser
machines... how thoughtful :)
 
 Strange, I thought the one thing that spoiled the gig a small amount
generally but Convextion's
 set particularly was the PA. 


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(313) Bleep43 Podcast

2007-03-12 Thread Toby Frith
This week's podcast includes a mix by Jackmaster and to start with, NCW's set 
from Friday.

http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show49.mp3

Nick's insane tracklisting is below. 

Beaks - Solvent Version 
Metallica - Orion (Excerpt) 
Alice Coltrane - Om Supreme (Excerpt) 
Detroit Grand Pubahs - Dr Bootygrabber 
ESG - Moody 
Like A Tim - Tough Luck 
Patrick Cowley - Mind Warp 
Drexciya - Lost Vessel 
Kraftwerk - Spacelab 
Depeche Mode - World In My Eyes 
Arpanet - Wireframe Images 
Autechre - V Proc 
Beaks - Fibrilous 
Fun Fun - Happy Station 
Tears For Fears - Mad World 
Beaks - Faceless Vulture 
Liaisons Dangereuses - Peu T'etre Pas? 
Chris and Cosey - Walking In Heaven 
Daniel Wang - Warped 
Gescom - Tangle 
Mathew Jonson - Marionette (Live Edit) 
Big Black - Stinking Drunk 
Regis - Death Head Said 
Hiroaki Iizuka - Spiral 
Suicide - Ghost Riders 
Frankie Knuckles - Baby Wants to Ride 
Pixies - Is She Weird? 
Nick Wilson - Cascade 
Earth - Seven Angels 
Laserdance- Fear 
Haas / Baartel - Neger Brauchen Keine Electronik 
Yoav B - Organ Satta 
Ceephax Acid Crew - The Snake Block (Ice Rink Emotions) 
Aphex Twin - Blur 
Autechre - Piezzo


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RE: (313) $tinkworx and Convextion

2007-03-09 Thread Toby Frith
glad to hear JT killed it. He's not had much luck on the tour and was quite ill 
earlier this week.



-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 March 2007 11:03
To: 313
Subject: (313) $tinkworx and Convextion



Saw these two last night in Manchester. I don't have time for a full-on 
report but I'll just say that they were both absolutely blinding.

Mr. $tinkworx stuff these days is just rediculously good. I'd say he's 
somewhere in-between 313 and 312 in flavour (less melodic than some of 
his vinyl output) and just had us all smiling at the turns in the music 
and the way he builds stuff. As I say, stupidly good.

Convextion was brilliant in a different way, faster more electro based 
with that control of echo and delay that needs a decent PA to do it 
justice (which thankfully they had). It was quite a 'techno' crowd and 
they were loving it.

Bottom line: If these guys are coming to somewhere near you, go.

robin...



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RE: (313) Your favorite CD only compilations/mixes

2007-03-08 Thread Toby Frith
I really like this mix CD..

http://www.discogs.com/release/130582




-Original Message-
From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 March 2007 08:58
To: Dan Bean
Cc: Matt Kane's Brain; 313@hyperreal.org;
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Subject: Re: (313) Your favorite CD only compilations/mixes


http://www.discogs.com/release/32144

the claude young mix is great.

On 08/03/07, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:02, Matt Kane's Brain wrote:

  1.) Not this listy, but my favorite is Coldcut vs. DJ Food vs. DJ
  Krush's 2 CD set Cold Krush Cuts
 

 Seconded, the Krush mix CD on that is awesome!




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RE: (313) Omar-S in London Saturday AKA the stupidest weekend here in ages

2007-03-08 Thread Toby Frith
Sleeparchive tonight at the T-Bar in Shoreditch as well.



-Original Message-
From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 March 2007 10:29
To: 313
Subject: (313) Omar-S in London Saturday AKA the stupidest weekend here
in ages


After the ridiculously exciting Bleep party tomorrow the fun continues here:


Shrunken Head
Saturday 10 March
Bar 54 - 54 Commercial Street, London, E1
10pm-6am
£10 before midnight/£12 after

Guest DJ: Omar-S (FXHE/Detroit) - 4 Hour Set
Resident DJs: Stuart Patterson and Roual Galloway

it's probably worth mentioning that Omar-S is on at midnight and that the
club will reach capacity pretty early.


Alternately Andy Vaz and Geoff White are playing at Run's Background Records 
party.

And there's Guerilla Lime  Soda @ Cafe 1001 on Sunday with Marco Shuttle, 
Nick Craddock and others if you fancy a three-dayer. 8)

Tristan
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http://www.phonopsia.co.uk


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RE: (313) Your favorite CD only compilations/mixes

2007-03-08 Thread Toby Frith
The X-mix Saunderson and Garnier ones stand the test of time too.





-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 March 2007 10:36
To: Toby Frith; Aidan O'Doherty; Dan Bean
Cc: Matt Kane's Brain; 313@hyperreal.org;
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Subject: RE: (313) Your favorite CD only compilations/mixes


This might suit where you're at at the moment Michael:

http://www.discogs.com/release/204823

I still like it, although it's dating fast.

Also, I think you'll love this: he had Hardy in his head that day...
errmm, don't read that the wrong way.

http://www.discogs.com/release/709692

And if you (or anyone else) didn't buy this yet, you should:

http://www.discogs.com/release/637836

It is our electronic world on a plate!

Ken
-Original Message-
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Sent: 08 March 2007 09:50
To: Aidan O'Doherty; Dan Bean
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Subject: RE: (313) Your favorite CD only compilations/mixes

I really like this mix CD..

http://www.discogs.com/release/130582




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Sent: 08 March 2007 08:58
To: Dan Bean
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Subject: Re: (313) Your favorite CD only compilations/mixes


http://www.discogs.com/release/32144

the claude young mix is great.

On 08/03/07, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:02, Matt Kane's Brain wrote:

  1.) Not this listy, but my favorite is Coldcut vs. DJ Food vs. DJ
  Krush's 2 CD set Cold Krush Cuts
 

 Seconded, the Krush mix CD on that is awesome!




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RE: (313) Your favorite CD only compilations/mixes

2007-03-08 Thread Toby Frith
it is taken from the Newhart record.

Both his BDM mixes were superb.



-Original Message-
From: Ben Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 March 2007 12:49
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Your favorite CD only compilations/mixes


No idea. Good research needed for that one. Dan Bell has used the name well
though:)


On 8/3/07 12:44 pm, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the same series was Dan Bell's fine The Button Down Mind of Daniel
 Bell. I think he copped that name from an old Bob Newheart comedy
 record, right?
 
 jeff
 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: David Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 08 March 2007 09:53
 
 Herbert - We All Make Mistakes
 
 
 What a great CD that is (ac-shually Letsallmakemistakes?).
 Glitch before glitch became hackneyed.
 And although it's been done to death since I don't think it's been bettered.
 When I first heard it around 99 (not sure when it came out but it was round
 then) I just thought (living in a rural area where I
 didn't get to go to big clubs much and when I did tended to go for something
 more on the straight 313 tip) wow imagine if I was in
 a club hearing this..I'd go completely nuts.
 Maybe that's what I'll be doing at Convextion tonight  :-)
 
 



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(313) bleep43 Friday March 9th

2007-03-02 Thread Toby Frith
Unsubtle reminder for any London and SE 313'ers of our first party at Corsica 
Studios with Surgeon and Convextion a week today. 

For more info see http://www.bleep43.com

Tickets, which are selling fast, are available to purchase via paypal at £12.50 
or can be obtained from the following London record stores

Sounds of the Universe
Phonica
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Rough Trade (Covent Garden)

Cheers

Toby





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RE: (313) Berlin Happenings (3/15-3/21)?

2007-03-02 Thread Toby Frith
http://www.de-bug.de/events/result.phtml?artist=stadt=club=von=2007-03-16bis=2007-03-17i=0



-Original Message-
From: John Sokolowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 March 2007 15:44
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Berlin Happenings (3/15-3/21)?


My homie from work will be in Berlin from March 15-21 and he was wondering 
if anything worthwhile is going on music wise? I'm sure he'd be up for 
anything, 313, house, minimal/maximal, whatever.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Danke!

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(313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Toby Frith
I met up with Gerard and JT at Berlin's Berghain on Saturday. A fine set from 
Gerard, composed mostly of material he played last year for us, but with a 
couple of new tracks at the end. I think to be honest the cerebral nature of 
his music was lost on some of the crowd. He perhaps might have been better 
upstairs in Panorama Bar, but still, hearing his material on that rig was a 
pleasure. Don Williams was on beforehand, but I thought he just churned out a 
few Detroit classics. Marcel Dettman was phenomenal - the right kind of 
Relief-era Chicago for 5 hours on a punishing system hit the spot. Thankfully 
the boring minimal in Panorama Bar was offset by Ame, who were a real pleasure, 
smooth, textured house that was perfect. A great night!



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RE: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Toby Frith
Gerard  4 - 5
Marcel 5 - 10

-Original Message-
From: Nick Hardie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 February 2007 13:37
To: Toby Frith
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain


What times did Marcel and Gerard play at?

On 27/02/07, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I met up with Gerard and JT at Berlin's Berghain on Saturday. A fine set from 
 Gerard, composed mostly of material he played last year for us, but with a 
 couple of new tracks at the end. I think to be honest the cerebral nature of 
 his music was lost on some of the crowd. He perhaps might have been better 
 upstairs in Panorama Bar, but still, hearing his material on that rig was a 
 pleasure. Don Williams was on beforehand, but I thought he just churned out a 
 few Detroit classics. Marcel Dettman was phenomenal - the right kind of 
 Relief-era Chicago for 5 hours on a punishing system hit the spot. Thankfully 
 the boring minimal in Panorama Bar was offset by Ame, who were a real 
 pleasure, smooth, textured house that was perfect. A great night!



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RE: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Toby Frith
When you get to Berghain you'll realise why 5 hours of that stuff makes sense!




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Sent: 27 February 2007 15:01
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Subject: Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain


On 2/27/07, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcel Dettman was phenomenal - the right kind of Relief-era Chicago
for 5 hours on a
 punishing system hit the spot.

5 hours of that kind of thing seems slightly excessive, but its
interesting that that is the kind of stuff he would play. it seems
that old chicago house is coming back, that silly Berlin issue of
XLR8R had all these berlin deejays talking about their most cherished
records, a bunch of them were prescription or relief type stuff.

tom


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RE: (313) Cobblestone Jazz live

2007-02-15 Thread Toby Frith
I'm not sure if the Mutek archives are still up, but there was an hour long set 
by them from 2003 on there. 


-Original Message-
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Sent: 15 February 2007 09:59
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Cobblestone Jazz live


d*mn, missed it. now there's only last night's show available.

hmmm, maybe anyone recorded it? or downloaded it somewhere? please...
[note to self: must re-install slsk for this purposes. f!]

c*

 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:48:52 +
Von: paul mouser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Betreff: (313) Cobblestone Jazz live

 cobblestone jazz live;  not sure if you have seen this, havn't listed to
 it yet
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/gillespeterson/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 13/02/07, Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  OK, maybe I have been sleeping on this for a long time...
 
  Someone played me a track by Cobblestone Jazz that blew me away. I hate
 having to compare music,
  but if I had to, I'd align what I heard somewhere in between Metro Area
 and St Germain, but it is
  definitely doing it's own thing.
 
  I was surprised to hear that Mathew Jonson is one of the producers. I
 was never that impressed
  with his minimal stuff on M_nus but I am glad to hear he has a more
 'maximal' side.
 
  Has anyone got any recommendations on releases or similar material?
 
  N
 
 

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RE: (313) mad mike interview link

2007-02-13 Thread Toby Frith
This line I thought was the most pertinent in the whole interview.

We need our city and manufacturing leaders to travel overseas and to realize 
what Mass Transit means to a city. We don`t have it and we have land locked 
communities, with land locked thoughts and values. There is no interaction 
unless you have the luxury of a car which a lot of people can`t afford. The 
situation is grey.



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Thanks for posting that, I found it very moving.

On 12 Feb 2007, at 17:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 don't know if it was posted before

 for all UR chobo's around

 http://www.de-bug.de/texte/4639.html



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