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Robert Taylor wrote: Monsoon Ever So Lonely (Extended Mix) Wow... haven't heard that one in ages!
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I like unfashionable 80s pop too - been listening to this 12/80s comp a hell of a lot recently: The Cure A Forest (Extended Mix) Aztec Camera Walk Out To Winter (Long Version) Soft Cell Tainted Love / Where Did Our Love Go? ABC Tears Are Not Enough Simple Minds Promised You A Miracle Spandau Ballet To Cut A Long Story Short Echo The Bunny Men Never Stop (Discotheque) The Icicle Works Love Is A Wonderful Colour Fun Boy Three Our Lips Are Sealed The Jam Precious Siouxsie The Banshees Spellbound Bauhaus She's In Parties (Extended) Disc Two Human League Love Action Scritti Polliti Wood Beez Visage Fade To Grey (Extended) Yazoo Situation Japan Quiet Life Talk Talk It's My Life Stephen 'Tin Tin' Duffy Kiss Me (Mixe Plural) The Style Council My Ever Changing Moods (Long Version) Simply Red Money's Too Tight To Mention (Cutback Mix) Animotion Obsession Tom Tom Club Wordy Rappinghood The Passions I'm In Love With A German Filmstar (Long Mix) Disc Three Grace Jones Pull Up To The Bumper Kid Creole The Coconuts I'm A Wonderful Thing (Baby) The Blow Monkeys Diggin' Your Scene (Extended Mix) Lloyd Cole My Bag (Dancing Remix) Hipsway The Honeythief Tears For Fears Shout (US Version) Man Parrish Hip Hop Be Bop Monsoon Ever So Lonely (Extended Mix) Curiosity Killed The Cat Down To Earth Black Wonderful Life Propaganda Dr. Mabuse -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2005 00:18 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please I agree - they were so reviled back then. I think they're still going!!! That's my fave too, Wishing. There's also Heaven 17, Blancmagne, Ultravox... -- From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:53 PM On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: and, ahem, A Flock Of Seagulls, just to be funny. Wishing (if i had a photograph of you) is an absolute classic... not even in a yeah, weren't the 80's silly way. It's genius. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Icicle Works! Great track/great bandbut where's New Order??? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 22 april 2005 12:05 Aan: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Onderwerp: RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please I like unfashionable 80s pop too - been listening to this 12/80s comp a hell of a lot recently: The Cure A Forest (Extended Mix) Aztec Camera Walk Out To Winter (Long Version) Soft Cell Tainted Love / Where Did Our Love Go? ABC Tears Are Not Enough Simple Minds Promised You A Miracle Spandau Ballet To Cut A Long Story Short Echo The Bunny Men Never Stop (Discotheque) The Icicle Works Love Is A Wonderful Colour Fun Boy Three Our Lips Are Sealed The Jam Precious Siouxsie The Banshees Spellbound Bauhaus She's In Parties (Extended) Disc Two Human League Love Action Scritti Polliti Wood Beez Visage Fade To Grey (Extended) Yazoo Situation Japan Quiet Life Talk Talk It's My Life Stephen 'Tin Tin' Duffy Kiss Me (Mixe Plural) The Style Council My Ever Changing Moods (Long Version) Simply Red Money's Too Tight To Mention (Cutback Mix) Animotion Obsession Tom Tom Club Wordy Rappinghood The Passions I'm In Love With A German Filmstar (Long Mix) Disc Three Grace Jones Pull Up To The Bumper Kid Creole The Coconuts I'm A Wonderful Thing (Baby) The Blow Monkeys Diggin' Your Scene (Extended Mix) Lloyd Cole My Bag (Dancing Remix) Hipsway The Honeythief Tears For Fears Shout (US Version) Man Parrish Hip Hop Be Bop Monsoon Ever So Lonely (Extended Mix) Curiosity Killed The Cat Down To Earth Black Wonderful Life Propaganda Dr. Mabuse -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2005 00:18 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please I agree - they were so reviled back then. I think they're still going!!! That's my fave too, Wishing. There's also Heaven 17, Blancmagne, Ultravox... -- From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:53 PM On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: and, ahem, A Flock Of Seagulls, just to be funny. Wishing (if i had a photograph of you) is an absolute classic... not even in a yeah, weren't the 80's silly way. It's genius. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Maybe they were left out deliberatelty cos they are on practically every compilation ever -Original Message- From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 April 2005 09:09 To: Robert Taylor; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please Icicle Works! Great track/great bandbut where's New Order??? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 22 april 2005 12:05 Aan: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Onderwerp: RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please I like unfashionable 80s pop too - been listening to this 12/80s comp a hell of a lot recently: The Cure A Forest (Extended Mix) Aztec Camera Walk Out To Winter (Long Version) Soft Cell Tainted Love / Where Did Our Love Go? ABC Tears Are Not Enough Simple Minds Promised You A Miracle Spandau Ballet To Cut A Long Story Short Echo The Bunny Men Never Stop (Discotheque) The Icicle Works Love Is A Wonderful Colour Fun Boy Three Our Lips Are Sealed The Jam Precious Siouxsie The Banshees Spellbound Bauhaus She's In Parties (Extended) Disc Two Human League Love Action Scritti Polliti Wood Beez Visage Fade To Grey (Extended) Yazoo Situation Japan Quiet Life Talk Talk It's My Life Stephen 'Tin Tin' Duffy Kiss Me (Mixe Plural) The Style Council My Ever Changing Moods (Long Version) Simply Red Money's Too Tight To Mention (Cutback Mix) Animotion Obsession Tom Tom Club Wordy Rappinghood The Passions I'm In Love With A German Filmstar (Long Mix) Disc Three Grace Jones Pull Up To The Bumper Kid Creole The Coconuts I'm A Wonderful Thing (Baby) The Blow Monkeys Diggin' Your Scene (Extended Mix) Lloyd Cole My Bag (Dancing Remix) Hipsway The Honeythief Tears For Fears Shout (US Version) Man Parrish Hip Hop Be Bop Monsoon Ever So Lonely (Extended Mix) Curiosity Killed The Cat Down To Earth Black Wonderful Life Propaganda Dr. Mabuse -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2005 00:18 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please I agree - they were so reviled back then. I think they're still going!!! That's my fave too, Wishing. There's also Heaven 17, Blancmagne, Ultravox... -- From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:53 PM On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: and, ahem, A Flock Of Seagulls, just to be funny. Wishing (if i had a photograph of you) is an absolute classic... not even in a yeah, weren't the 80's silly way. It's genius. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Hey, the Passions I'm In Love With A German Film Star! Blimey, that takes me back to being a kid with my pocket money, up Woolworths, debating which one of the top 40 7 singles I was going to buy. I passed on it at the time. But Ahh, the beauty of Soulseek!... cheers, Dan --- Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:04:32 - To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like unfashionable 80s pop too - been listening to this 12/80s comp a = hell of a lot recently: The Cure A Forest (Extended Mix)=20 Aztec Camera Walk Out To Winter (Long Version)=20 Soft Cell Tainted Love / Where Did Our Love Go?=20 ABC Tears Are Not Enough=20 Simple Minds Promised You A Miracle=20 Spandau Ballet To Cut A Long Story Short=20 Echo The Bunny Men Never Stop (Discotheque)=20 The Icicle Works Love Is A Wonderful Colour=20 Fun Boy Three Our Lips Are Sealed=20 The Jam Precious=20 Siouxsie The Banshees Spellbound=20 Bauhaus She's In Parties (Extended)=20 Disc Two=20 Human League Love Action=20 Scritti Polliti Wood Beez=20 Visage Fade To Grey (Extended)=20 Yazoo Situation=20 Japan Quiet Life=20 Talk Talk It's My Life=20 Stephen 'Tin Tin' Duffy Kiss Me (Mixe Plural)=20 The Style Council My Ever Changing Moods (Long Version)=20 Simply Red Money's Too Tight To Mention (Cutback Mix)=20 Animotion Obsession=20 Tom Tom Club Wordy Rappinghood=20 The Passions I'm In Love With A German Filmstar (Long Mix)=20 Disc Three=20 Grace Jones Pull Up To The Bumper=20 Kid Creole The Coconuts I'm A Wonderful Thing (Baby)=20 The Blow Monkeys Diggin' Your Scene (Extended Mix)=20 Lloyd Cole My Bag (Dancing Remix)=20 Hipsway The Honeythief=20 Tears For Fears Shout (US Version)=20 Man Parrish Hip Hop Be Bop=20 Monsoon Ever So Lonely (Extended Mix)=20 Curiosity Killed The Cat Down To Earth=20 Black Wonderful Life=20 Propaganda Dr. Mabuse=20
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that reminds me The Flirts Passion does that count? or, more bobby o tackle. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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at the pub MEK Blaauw, Martijn de Martijn.de.Blaau To [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 04/22/05 04:09 AM Detroit 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please Icicle Works! Great track/great bandbut where's New Order??? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 22 april 2005 12:05 Aan: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Onderwerp: RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please I like unfashionable 80s pop too - been listening to this 12/80s comp a hell of a lot recently: The Cure A Forest (Extended Mix) Aztec Camera Walk Out To Winter (Long Version) Soft Cell Tainted Love / Where Did Our Love Go? ABC Tears Are Not Enough Simple Minds Promised You A Miracle Spandau Ballet To Cut A Long Story Short Echo The Bunny Men Never Stop (Discotheque) The Icicle Works Love Is A Wonderful Colour Fun Boy Three Our Lips Are Sealed The Jam Precious Siouxsie The Banshees Spellbound Bauhaus She's In Parties (Extended) Disc Two Human League Love Action Scritti Polliti Wood Beez Visage Fade To Grey (Extended) Yazoo Situation Japan Quiet Life Talk Talk It's My Life Stephen 'Tin Tin' Duffy Kiss Me (Mixe Plural) The Style Council My Ever Changing Moods (Long Version) Simply Red Money's Too Tight To Mention (Cutback Mix) Animotion Obsession Tom Tom Club Wordy Rappinghood The Passions I'm In Love With A German Filmstar (Long Mix) Disc Three Grace Jones Pull Up To The Bumper Kid Creole The Coconuts I'm A Wonderful Thing (Baby) The Blow Monkeys Diggin' Your Scene (Extended Mix) Lloyd Cole My Bag (Dancing Remix) Hipsway The Honeythief Tears For Fears Shout (US Version) Man Parrish Hip Hop Be Bop Monsoon Ever So Lonely (Extended Mix) Curiosity Killed The Cat Down To Earth Black Wonderful Life Propaganda Dr. Mabuse -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2005 00:18 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please I agree - they were so reviled back then. I think they're still going!!! That's my fave too, Wishing. There's also Heaven 17, Blancmagne, Ultravox... -- From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:53 PM On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: and, ahem, A Flock Of Seagulls, just to be funny. Wishing (if i had a photograph of you) is an absolute classic... not even in a yeah, weren't the 80's silly way. It's genius. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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I agree - they were so reviled back then. I think they're still going!!! That's my fave too, Wishing. There's also Heaven 17, Blancmagne, Ultravox... -- From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:53 PM On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: and, ahem, A Flock Of Seagulls, just to be funny. Wishing (if i had a photograph of you) is an absolute classic... not even in a yeah, weren't the 80's silly way. It's genius. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
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Oh yeah and don't forget Berlin - their early stuff was cool, esp the songs The Metro, Sex I'm A and Masqurade!!! my favorite Flock of Seagulls tune, if you can call it that, would be 2:30 off of Listen. Just sort of crunchy atmospheric sound efx. by the way - thanks everyone for all the suggestions! MEK Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com To Cyclone Wehner 04/19/05 08:53 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: and, ahem, A Flock Of Seagulls, just to be funny. Wishing (if i had a photograph of you) is an absolute classic... not even in a yeah, weren't the 80's silly way. It's genius. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
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On Apr 19, 2005, at 20:18, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Oh yeah and don't forget Berlin - their early stuff was cool, esp the songs The Metro, Sex I'm A and Masqurade!!! honestly i prefer the lovage cover of sex (i'm a). i confess that i liked the berlin single that came out a couple years ago. especially the moroder mix. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cool. I was very disappointed with that comeback album! Is that the one you mean? It was like Madonna's Ray Of Light but nowhere near as good. Where's Sean D, he is always good on this stuff! Oh yeah and don't forget Berlin - their early stuff was cool, esp the songs The Metro, Sex I'm A and Masqurade!!! honestly i prefer the lovage cover of sex (i'm a). i confess that i liked the berlin single that came out a couple years ago. especially the moroder mix.
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send me suggestions for more strangely cold and detached synth-pop please (I've got the usual suspects: BEF/early Heaven 17, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, early Human League OMD, Pet Shop Boys, etc.) any interesting side projects that seemed to fly under the radar? solo careers worth checking out? How about: Flying Lizards Din Telex Chameleons Sad Lovers and Giants Chris Cosey Click Click Attrition The The Japan Severed Heads
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Tuxedomoon? 'Desire' from 1981 is a fascinatingly strange album with some synth-pop elements, well worth a listen or two. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Tuxedomoon BTW, Jeff Bennett has added a great new mix to his archives: http://www.jeffbennett.info/djlive.htm 1. Jeff Bennett - Smoke In The Water - CDR 2. Nukes - Alkoholics - CDR 3. Kriece - The Glue That Binds - CDR 4. Thomas Overas - Sikkelig Minimal - CDR 5. Kevin Saunderson - The Groove That Won't Stop - KMS 6. Ralphie Rosario - You Used To Hold Me (Jeff Bennett Rmx) - CDR 7. Ron Jeremy - Window Licker - Bootleg 8. Jeff Bennett - Vibrant - Kung Fu Dub 9. Jeff Bennett - Growing Means - Middle 10. DJinxx - Surrealism (Paul Mac Rmx) - Cheers, Wes
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do you have the dignity of labour by the human league? makers of the dead travel fast thought criminals (first album 'you only think twice) early severed heads kames www.jbucknell.com Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com To [EMAIL PROTECTED], 18/04/05 08:21 PM 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please listening: Yazoo - Only You eating: my bottom lip drinking: tea thinking: Vince Clarke is a genius (and wondering why it's not time to go home yet) send me suggestions for more strangely cold and detached synth-pop please (I've got the usual suspects: BEF/early Heaven 17, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, early Human League OMD, Pet Shop Boys, etc.) any interesting side projects that seemed to fly under the radar? solo careers worth checking out? MEK Well don't forget the Heaven 17 side-project British Electric Foundation. I think they had a couple of LPs on which they collaborated with famous singers of the times. For obscure: check out Kissing the Pink. This also reminds me of Vicious Pink Phenomena (if you can still find stuff by them?!) The The. Amazing ostensibly non-commercial stuff, which charted quite often! Blancmange, Soft Cell (of course) Talk Talk. Hmmm: Japan?!? (Especially 'European Son' LP. You probably know of course but Propaganda oughtn't to be left out from the above either. garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 04/15/05 02:45 PM 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ listening: Bola - Gnayse eating: rice/chicken/tomato/cheeze/salsa bowl drinking: water... too much caffeine already today thinking: need to hire someone for ripping, warping, discogs catalogging duties ForwardSourceID:NT0001D46E
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Actually Carl is all on laptop now. dj's who use laptops and still engage the crowd... hawtin francois k kevin saunderson chris liebing djs who use vinyl and stare at their shoes... herbert mark farina carl craig jeff mills (kidding!) it takes all kinds On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Yes, that's right. I think more people end up watching a DJ on laptop than one on decks but I am not knocking the technology per se, I just citing a 'limitation' I have noticed, if you can call it that. The DJs on laptop I have observed never look up at the crowd, they're affixed to the screen, you could be watching them on TV, or in their bedroom practising on webcam, whatever! It changes the psychology of the situation. i think the dj should be a part of the party, same as the dancers etc. the scenario described by cyclone et al suggests that most djs behind the screen are less a part of the party (-vibe) than many djs behind decks. this does not necessarily mean that one has to make the clown.. just be *present*. and for sure it doesn't mean that we idolize the dj in rock star way already if we demand her *presence*. armin
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Richard X put out a demo of the League's v early stuff on CD. You'd never guess but he financed it. Also The Chaffeur by Duran Duran and their first LP, v underrated, and Arcadia and Propaganda (more industrial) and, ahem, A Flock Of Seagulls, just to be funny. do you have the dignity of labour by the human league? makers of the dead travel fast thought criminals (first album 'you only think twice) early severed heads
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He wasn't in Sydney recently. His set was a combination of laptop and vinyl. Cyclone Wehner wrote: Actually Carl is all on laptop now. dj's who use laptops and still engage the crowd... hawtin francois k kevin saunderson chris liebing djs who use vinyl and stare at their shoes... herbert mark farina carl craig jeff mills (kidding!) it takes all kinds On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Yes, that's right. I think more people end up watching a DJ on laptop than one on decks but I am not knocking the technology per se, I just citing a 'limitation' I have noticed, if you can call it that. The DJs on laptop I have observed never look up at the crowd, they're affixed to the screen, you could be watching them on TV, or in their bedroom practising on webcam, whatever! It changes the psychology of the situation. i think the dj should be a part of the party, same as the dancers etc. the scenario described by cyclone et al suggests that most djs behind the screen are less a part of the party (-vibe) than many djs behind decks. this does not necessarily mean that one has to make the clown.. just be *present*. and for sure it doesn't mean that we idolize the dj in rock star way already if we demand her *presence*. armin
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If you don't get anything else by them, make sure you get 'Open Your Heart', I say. K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2005 02:03 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: 313 Detroit; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please do you have the dignity of labour by the human league? makers of the dead travel fast thought criminals (first album 'you only think twice) early severed heads kames www.jbucknell.com Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com To [EMAIL PROTECTED], 18/04/05 08:21 PM 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please listening: Yazoo - Only You eating: my bottom lip drinking: tea thinking: Vince Clarke is a genius (and wondering why it's not time to go home yet) send me suggestions for more strangely cold and detached synth-pop please (I've got the usual suspects: BEF/early Heaven 17, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, early Human League OMD, Pet Shop Boys, etc.) any interesting side projects that seemed to fly under the radar? solo careers worth checking out? MEK Well don't forget the Heaven 17 side-project British Electric Foundation. I think they had a couple of LPs on which they collaborated with famous singers of the times. For obscure: check out Kissing the Pink. This also reminds me of Vicious Pink Phenomena (if you can still find stuff by them?!) The The. Amazing ostensibly non-commercial stuff, which charted quite often! Blancmange, Soft Cell (of course) Talk Talk. Hmmm: Japan?!? (Especially 'European Son' LP. You probably know of course but Propaganda oughtn't to be left out from the above either. garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 04/15/05 02:45 PM 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ listening: Bola - Gnayse eating: rice/chicken/tomato/cheeze/salsa bowl drinking: water... too much caffeine already today thinking: need to hire someone for ripping, warping, discogs catalogging duties ForwardSourceID:NT0001D46E
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On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: and, ahem, A Flock Of Seagulls, just to be funny. Wishing (if i had a photograph of you) is an absolute classic... not even in a yeah, weren't the 80's silly way. It's genius. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
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my favorite Flock of Seagulls tune, if you can call it that, would be 2:30 off of Listen. Just sort of crunchy atmospheric sound efx. by the way - thanks everyone for all the suggestions! MEK Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com To Cyclone Wehner 04/19/05 08:53 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: and, ahem, A Flock Of Seagulls, just to be funny. Wishing (if i had a photograph of you) is an absolute classic... not even in a yeah, weren't the 80's silly way. It's genius. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
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listening: Yazoo - Only You eating: my bottom lip drinking: tea thinking: Vince Clarke is a genius (and wondering why it's not time to go home yet) send me suggestions for more strangely cold and detached synth-pop please (I've got the usual suspects: BEF/early Heaven 17, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, early Human League OMD, Pet Shop Boys, etc.) any interesting side projects that seemed to fly under the radar? solo careers worth checking out? MEK Well don't forget the Heaven 17 side-project British Electric Foundation. I think they had a couple of LPs on which they collaborated with famous singers of the times. For obscure: check out Kissing the Pink. This also reminds me of Vicious Pink Phenomena (if you can still find stuff by them?!) The The. Amazing ostensibly non-commercial stuff, which charted quite often! Blancmange, Soft Cell (of course) Talk Talk. Hmmm: Japan?!? (Especially 'European Son' LP. You probably know of course but Propaganda oughtn't to be left out from the above either. garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 04/15/05 02:45 PM 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ listening: Bola - Gnayse eating: rice/chicken/tomato/cheeze/salsa bowl drinking: water... too much caffeine already today thinking: need to hire someone for ripping, warping, discogs catalogging duties
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: Japan?!? (Especially 'European Son' LP. - ? - there was no LP of that name; it was a 12/7 which has been featured on a few comps. * Yeah, you're right. The LP I've got is 'Assemblage.' No vinyl version listed in discogs though, (afaics), but I'm definitely not mistaken that I have it on vinyl, not cd! It's a great record imo. There's a version of Life in Tokyo (both it and the extended version where produced by Giorgio Moroder) but it's not the best thing on there, I believe. The title track 'European Son' with its hard quantizing (the first time I'd think I'd recognised the use of a drum machine, I think) comes close. Spot the 313ers pushing 40! ;-) Almost time for smooth jazz and slippers... K
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We do tho :) and I was a tad drunk as I had to attempt to do a vocal track and was feeling a bit shy... On 18 Apr 2005, at 17:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We go nuts behind ours but I do know what you mean Were you feeling OK yesterday Martin? Or maybe just mellow on a Sunday evening? ; )
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dj's who use laptops and still engage the crowd... hawtin francois k kevin saunderson chris liebing djs who use vinyl and stare at their shoes... herbert mark farina carl craig jeff mills (kidding!) it takes all kinds On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Yes, that's right. I think more people end up watching a DJ on laptop than one on decks but I am not knocking the technology per se, I just citing a 'limitation' I have noticed, if you can call it that. The DJs on laptop I have observed never look up at the crowd, they're affixed to the screen, you could be watching them on TV, or in their bedroom practising on webcam, whatever! It changes the psychology of the situation. i think the dj should be a part of the party, same as the dancers etc. the scenario described by cyclone et al suggests that most djs behind the screen are less a part of the party (-vibe) than many djs behind decks. this does not necessarily mean that one has to make the clown.. just be *present*. and for sure it doesn't mean that we idolize the dj in rock star way already if we demand her *presence*. armin
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so if i'm the sort who wants to focus on what i'm doing (assuming maybe that you are focusing on the result from the speakers) but am also concerned about that audience contingent who wants a Show of some sort, maybe i should hire another member of my group to dance around like crazy behind me, occasionally touching a fader or two? wait, i think i've seen this before. was it version 1 of the advent?? =) On Apr 18, 2005, at 11:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dj's who use laptops and still engage the crowd... hawtin francois k kevin saunderson chris liebing djs who use vinyl and stare at their shoes... herbert mark farina carl craig jeff mills (kidding!) it takes all kinds On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Yes, that's right. I think more people end up watching a DJ on laptop than one on decks but I am not knocking the technology per se, I just citing a 'limitation' I have noticed, if you can call it that. The DJs on laptop I have observed never look up at the crowd, they're affixed to the screen, you could be watching them on TV, or in their bedroom practising on webcam, whatever! It changes the psychology of the situation. i think the dj should be a part of the party, same as the dancers etc. the scenario described by cyclone et al suggests that most djs behind the screen are less a part of the party (-vibe) than many djs behind decks. this does not necessarily mean that one has to make the clown.. just be *present*. and for sure it doesn't mean that we idolize the dj in rock star way already if we demand her *presence*. armin
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wait, i think i've seen this before. was it version 1 of the advent?? hahahahahaha =) On Apr 18, 2005, at 11:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dj's who use laptops and still engage the crowd... hawtin francois k kevin saunderson chris liebing djs who use vinyl and stare at their shoes... herbert mark farina carl craig jeff mills (kidding!) it takes all kinds On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Yes, that's right. I think more people end up watching a DJ on laptop than one on decks but I am not knocking the technology per se, I just citing a 'limitation' I have noticed, if you can call it that. The DJs on laptop I have observed never look up at the crowd, they're affixed to the screen, you could be watching them on TV, or in their bedroom practising on webcam, whatever! It changes the psychology of the situation. i think the dj should be a part of the party, same as the dancers etc. the scenario described by cyclone et al suggests that most djs behind the screen are less a part of the party (-vibe) than many djs behind decks. this does not necessarily mean that one has to make the clown.. just be *present*. and for sure it doesn't mean that we idolize the dj in rock star way already if we demand her *presence*. armin
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I didn't say show - but I do appreciate a DJ with presence. V different thing... Watching the DJ is OK. Dancing is OK. As long as people enjoy it? since when did a dj have to put on a 'show'? oh, wait, I know, since all the idiots who put dj's on pedestals wanted to see one. dj = disc jockey, someone who plays records yeah? thats the entertainment. you know, the sounds coming out the speakers. f**k me, have a dance, lose yourself in music, hey, maybe even try some social interaction - give it a whirl - sometimes it can be a rewarding experience. don't watch the dj, thats for f**king idiots.
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Yes, that's right. I think more people end up watching a DJ on laptop than one on decks but I am not knocking the technology per se, I just citing a 'limitation' I have noticed, if you can call it that. The DJs on laptop I have observed never look up at the crowd, they're affixed to the screen, you could be watching them on TV, or in their bedroom practising on webcam, whatever! It changes the psychology of the situation. i think the dj should be a part of the party, same as the dancers etc. the scenario described by cyclone et al suggests that most djs behind the screen are less a part of the party (-vibe) than many djs behind decks. this does not necessarily mean that one has to make the clown.. just be *present*. and for sure it doesn't mean that we idolize the dj in rock star way already if we demand her *presence*. armin
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We go nuts behind ours but I do know what you mean, I've always enjoyed the glow of Surgeons evil little face, with no emotion or movement... - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 8:42 PM Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Yes, that's right. I think more people end up watching a DJ on laptop than one on decks but I am not knocking the technology per se, I just citing a 'limitation' I have noticed, if you can call it that. The DJs on laptop I have observed never look up at the crowd, they're affixed to the screen, you could be watching them on TV, or in their bedroom practising on webcam, whatever! It changes the psychology of the situation.
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But you wouldn't want every DJ like that! This thread has thrown up so interesting stuff though. Love this list! We go nuts behind ours but I do know what you mean, I've always enjoyed the glow of Surgeons evil little face, with no emotion or movement... - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 8:42 PM Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Yes, that's right. I think more people end up watching a DJ on laptop than one on decks but I am not knocking the technology per se, I just citing a 'limitation' I have noticed, if you can call it that. The DJs on laptop I have observed never look up at the crowd, they're affixed to the screen, you could be watching them on TV, or in their bedroom practising on webcam, whatever! It changes the psychology of the situation.
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Don't really care that much C, as I like to shake my ass rather than look at the DJ all night - I'm as happy as a pig in sh1t in front of a speaker stack and a good chunk of darkness... - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ But you wouldn't want every DJ like that! This thread has thrown up so interesting stuff though. Love this list! We go nuts behind ours but I do know what you mean, I've always enjoyed the glow of Surgeons evil little face, with no emotion or movement...
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I think it must be 'cause I dance less these days, I am always so tired from long hours at work... I watch more than I used to, just stand slumped against a post! -- From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 5:52 AM Don't really care that much C, as I like to shake my ass rather than look at the DJ all night - I'm as happy as a pig in sh1t in front of a speaker stack and a good chunk of darkness... - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ But you wouldn't want every DJ like that! This thread has thrown up so interesting stuff though. Love this list! We go nuts behind ours but I do know what you mean, I've always enjoyed the glow of Surgeons evil little face, with no emotion or movement...
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Last person I really watched was Claude, man I felt so bad after cos I just knew I'd never get that good in a million years *lol* I think it must be 'cause I dance less these days, I am always so tired from long hours at work... I watch more than I used to, just stand slumped against a post! -- From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 5:52 AM Don't really care that much C, as I like to shake my ass rather than look at the DJ all night - I'm as happy as a pig in sh1t in front of a speaker stack and a good chunk of darkness...
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Every time I have seen a DJ with Final Scratch they look at the screen the whole set and never the crowd, and then the crowd gathers around and if they can they look at it as well. It's created a barrier. The next challenge is to find a way around that. It's very disengaged... At 2:36 PM -0400 4/14/05, /0 wrote: id like to play somewhere with sound good enough for me to differentiate between a 320k mp3 and a wav file I'd like to *dance* at a club with sound that good, too! Anyway, I still don't like the idea of computer files substituting for vinyl. Just think, if DJs ripped their vinyl favs onto their ipods (or laptop hard drives), where would taste-setting airline baggage handlers get their bumpin' tunes? I tell ya, the world will be a sadder and poorer place if those poor baggage handlers have only old Neil Diamond and Burl Ives records to listen to after work. It'll set civilization (or at least airline service) back at least forty years. -marc
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-- Original Message -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every time I have seen a DJ with Final Scratch they look at the screen the whole set and never the crowd, and then the crowd gathers around and if they can they look at it as well. It's created a barrier. The next challenge is to find a way around that. there's these 12 in diameter black vinyl discs with grooves on them. they sound kinda nifty. tom andythepooh.com
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you don't hav eto play mp3 - you can play aiff files on your ipod. i found the the difference quite noticable. james www.jbucknell.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] lnoize.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To lnoize.com matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Dust 15/04/05 03:55 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ Well, I'll just say that in doing Ableton DJ sets, I've mostlyquit using mp3's, using only encoded vinyl and stuff I've ripped from CD's I own. I think avoiding mp3's really improves the sound quality. So I'm a bit skeptical what sound you'd get DJ-ing off i-pods. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:43:52 -0400 From: matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org At 01:42 PM 4/14/2005, Martin Dust wrote: http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow8.jpg http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow3.jpg Are those both Numark units? I think I have to talk to some friends of mine... :) -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk ForwardSourceID:NT0001D216
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Yeah, but 'tis merely the novelty of it all I imagine. Most big DJs who are playing out on Final Scratch probably haven't really had the gear for long, especially when you express the time they've had it as a percentage of their total time on the 1s and 2s. Or maybe they're checking their email/watching the latest episode of Battlestar Galactica they got off bittorrent the day before. It's the perennial challenge, IMO - how do you turn an electronic music performance into a 'show'? And furthermore, ought you to? Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/15/05 11:06 am Every time I have seen a DJ with Final Scratch they look at the screen the whole set and never the crowd, and then the crowd gathers around and if they can they look at it as well. It's created a barrier. The next challenge is to find a way around that. It's very disengaged... At 2:36 PM -0400 4/14/05, /0 wrote: id like to play somewhere with sound good enough for me to differentiate between a 320k mp3 and a wav file I'd like to *dance* at a club with sound that good, too! Anyway, I still don't like the idea of computer files substituting for vinyl. Just think, if DJs ripped their vinyl favs onto their ipods (or laptop hard drives), where would taste-setting airline baggage handlers get their bumpin' tunes? I tell ya, the world will be a sadder and poorer place if those poor baggage handlers have only old Neil Diamond and Burl Ives records to listen to after work. It'll set civilization (or at least airline service) back at least forty years. -marc
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the only attention that should be paid to the dj is with your ass and, for the more energetic, feet. james www.jbucknell.com Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] u.nsw.gov.au To 313@hyperreal.org 15/04/05 12:42 PM cc Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ Yeah, but 'tis merely the novelty of it all I imagine. Most big DJs who are playing out on Final Scratch probably haven't really had the gear for long, especially when you express the time they've had it as a percentage of their total time on the 1s and 2s. Or maybe they're checking their email/watching the latest episode of Battlestar Galactica they got off bittorrent the day before. It's the perennial challenge, IMO - how do you turn an electronic music performance into a 'show'? And furthermore, ought you to? Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/15/05 11:06 am Every time I have seen a DJ with Final Scratch they look at the screen the whole set and never the crowd, and then the crowd gathers around and if they can they look at it as well. It's created a barrier. The next challenge is to find a way around that. It's very disengaged... At 2:36 PM -0400 4/14/05, /0 wrote: id like to play somewhere with sound good enough for me to differentiate between a 320k mp3 and a wav file I'd like to *dance* at a club with sound that good, too! Anyway, I still don't like the idea of computer files substituting for vinyl. Just think, if DJs ripped their vinyl favs onto their ipods (or laptop hard drives), where would taste-setting airline baggage handlers get their bumpin' tunes? I tell ya, the world will be a sadder and poorer place if those poor baggage handlers have only old Neil Diamond and Burl Ives records to listen to after work. It'll set civilization (or at least airline service) back at least forty years. -marc ForwardSourceID:NT0001D27A
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I have seen some pretty boring performances for both final scratch and vinyl... I don't think you can always say one is better than another. part of the entertainment factor has got to do with the performer - some people are just better entertainers than others. -Original Message- From: Simon Hindle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 April 2005 12:43 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Yeah, but 'tis merely the novelty of it all I imagine. Most big DJs who are playing out on Final Scratch probably haven't really had the gear for long, especially when you express the time they've had it as a percentage of their total time on the 1s and 2s. Or maybe they're checking their email/watching the latest episode of Battlestar Galactica they got off bittorrent the day before. It's the perennial challenge, IMO - how do you turn an electronic music performance into a 'show'? And furthermore, ought you to? Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/15/05 11:06 am Every time I have seen a DJ with Final Scratch they look at the screen the whole set and never the crowd, and then the crowd gathers around and if they can they look at it as well. It's created a barrier. The next challenge is to find a way around that. It's very disengaged... At 2:36 PM -0400 4/14/05, /0 wrote: id like to play somewhere with sound good enough for me to differentiate between a 320k mp3 and a wav file I'd like to *dance* at a club with sound that good, too! Anyway, I still don't like the idea of computer files substituting for vinyl. Just think, if DJs ripped their vinyl favs onto their ipods (or laptop hard drives), where would taste-setting airline baggage handlers get their bumpin' tunes? I tell ya, the world will be a sadder and poorer place if those poor baggage handlers have only old Neil Diamond and Burl Ives records to listen to after work. It'll set civilization (or at least airline service) back at least forty years. -marc ## Notice: The information contained in this electronic mail is intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be confidential and/or privileged. If you have received this electronic mail in error, please delete it from your system and kindly notify the sender. If you are not the intended recipient you must not reproduce any part of this electronic mail or disclose its contents to any other party. ##
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I have seen some pretty boring performances for both final scratch and vinyl... I don't think you can always say one is better than another. Yeah, but 'tis merely the novelty of it all I imagine. Most big DJs who are playing out on Final Scratch probably haven't really had the gear for long, especially when you express the time they've had it as a percentage of their total time on the 1s and 2s. I agree, but for me the FS have been consistently disengaging even with great programmers. I think that's a good point on the adjustment process. But I miss the physicality. There's little movement. You may as well listen to a mix CD at home in some cases. I think it can affect the atmosphere. Maybe some new technology interface will allow for more movement - or free the DJ from having to watch a screen. It's the perennial challenge, IMO - how do you turn an electronic music performance into a 'show'? And furthermore, ought you to? Interesting point. Show or not, I want to sense a presence. I am not feeling that with the screen - it is a barrier. The programming opportunities are incredible but the physicality of the experience has been sacrificed. No wonder that even Sasha - yes, Sasha - who has eschewed vinyl says he hopes that Mills never gives up vinyl because he has so much presence behind the decks.
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There is plenty technology out there for people to rock along with their laptops - all kinds of controllers and gadgets that you can rock out with if you are performing with, say, Ableton Live. I think it's more that some just don't see themselves as performers, don't want to work that hard, or for some reason aren't considering all the possibilities available. David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:58:50 +1000 From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org I have seen some pretty boring performances for both final scratch and vinyl... I don't think you can always say one is better than another. Yeah, but 'tis merely the novelty of it all I imagine. Most big DJs who are playing out on Final Scratch probably haven't really had the gear for long, especially when you express the time they've had it as a percentage of their total time on the 1s and 2s. I agree, but for me the FS have been consistently disengaging even with great programmers. I think that's a good point on the adjustment process. But I miss the physicality. There's little movement. You may as well listen to a mix CD at home in some cases. I think it can affect the atmosphere. Maybe some new technology interface will allow for more movement - or free the DJ from having to watch a screen. It's the perennial challenge, IMO - how do you turn an electronic music performance into a 'show'? And furthermore, ought you to? Interesting point. Show or not, I want to sense a presence. I am not feeling that with the screen - it is a barrier. The programming opportunities are incredible but the physicality of the experience has been sacrificed. No wonder that even Sasha - yes, Sasha - who has eschewed vinyl says he hopes that Mills never gives up vinyl because he has so much presence behind the decks.
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apple lossless is also an option. Though with the ipods if you are running off of battery you won't get much playtime when playing large files. On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 12:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you don't hav eto play mp3 - you can play aiff files on your ipod. i found the the difference quite noticable. james www.jbucknell.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] lnoize.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To lnoize.com matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Dust 15/04/05 03:55 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ Well, I'll just say that in doing Ableton DJ sets, I've mostlyquit using mp3's, using only encoded vinyl and stuff I've ripped from CD's I own. I think avoiding mp3's really improves the sound quality. So I'm a bit skeptical what sound you'd get DJ-ing off i-pods. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:43:52 -0400 From: matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org At 01:42 PM 4/14/2005, Martin Dust wrote: http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow8.jpg http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow3.jpg Are those both Numark units? I think I have to talk to some friends of mine... :) -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk ForwardSourceID:NT0001D216 -- Andrew Jackson Systems Administrator NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997
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Sasha uses Ableton Live, but hearing his sets is like seeing a zombie DJ - Sasha of The Dead, ha ha. I like what he did with Involver... It's not 'performing', it's 'communicating' maybe? Admittedly the DJs I have seen of late with laptops are quite reserved people in life, so maybe that's part of the attraction - creating a barrier. There is plenty technology out there for people to rock along with their laptops - all kinds of controllers and gadgets that you can rock out with if you are performing with, say, Ableton Live. I think it's more that some just don't see themselves as performers, don't want to work that hard, or for some reason aren't considering all the possibilities available. David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:58:50 +1000 From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org I have seen some pretty boring performances for both final scratch and vinyl... I don't think you can always say one is better than another. Yeah, but 'tis merely the novelty of it all I imagine. Most big DJs who are playing out on Final Scratch probably haven't really had the gear for long, especially when you express the time they've had it as a percentage of their total time on the 1s and 2s. I agree, but for me the FS have been consistently disengaging even with great programmers. I think that's a good point on the adjustment process. But I miss the physicality. There's little movement. You may as well listen to a mix CD at home in some cases. I think it can affect the atmosphere. Maybe some new technology interface will allow for more movement - or free the DJ from having to watch a screen. It's the perennial challenge, IMO - how do you turn an electronic music performance into a 'show'? And furthermore, ought you to? Interesting point. Show or not, I want to sense a presence. I am not feeling that with the screen - it is a barrier. The programming opportunities are incredible but the physicality of the experience has been sacrificed. No wonder that even Sasha - yes, Sasha - who has eschewed vinyl says he hopes that Mills never gives up vinyl because he has so much presence behind the decks.
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Why should one look at the screen all the time? Do they play Pacman meanwhilst? Every time I have seen a DJ with Final Scratch they look at the screen the whole set and never the crowd, and then the crowd gathers around and if they can they look at it as well. It's created a barrier. The next challenge is to find a way around that. It's very disengaged...
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since when did a dj have to put on a 'show'? oh, wait, I know, since all the idiots who put dj's on pedestals wanted to see one. dj = disc jockey, someone who plays records yeah? thats the entertainment. you know, the sounds coming out the speakers. f**k me, have a dance, lose yourself in music, hey, maybe even try some social interaction - give it a whirl - sometimes it can be a rewarding experience. don't watch the dj, thats for f**king idiots. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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Alex, when are you going to come off the fence and speak your mind for once in your life?!? ;-) (Looking forward to your set at Flashpoint Saturday. It's the party that's going to separates the caners from the real music lovers ... ;-) K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2005 09:39 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ since when did a dj have to put on a 'show'? oh, wait, I know, since all the idiots who put dj's on pedestals wanted to see one. dj = disc jockey, someone who plays records yeah? thats the entertainment. you know, the sounds coming out the speakers. f**k me, have a dance, lose yourself in music, hey, maybe even try some social interaction - give it a whirl - sometimes it can be a rewarding experience. don't watch the dj, thats for f**king idiots. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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Right we've had this discussion so many times before and I wasn't going to chip in. BUT I have to say this one thing! That it bugs me that each time the subject comes up anyone on who dares question whether attention to a computer screen rather than the dancefloor in a DJ can be a bit off putting gets hit with huh! you should just dance when you go to clubs you know P**s off!!! No one (well not many people) dances more than I do in a club. And I've been doing it for MANY years. Call me wrong headed (and if you remember the last time we had this discussion even I concluded I'm wrong headed about PC vs. vinyl and am working on over coming my problems) if you like but don't patronise me like you're some club master and I'm some jerk-johhny-come-lately who doesn't know any better than to stare in fascination at the DJ. The DJ is an integral and important part of what's going on in a club - otherwise we could just dance to a CD. Or maybe according to you that would be cool - after all you never go to a club because of the DJ right?
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oh gawd, here we go: P**s off!!! No one (well not many people) dances more than I do in a club. And I've been doing it for MANY years. Call me wrong headed (and if you remember the last time we had this discussion even I concluded I'm wrong headed about PC vs. vinyl and am working on over coming my problems) if you like but don't patronise me like you're some club master and I'm some jerk-johhny-come-lately who doesn't know any better than to stare in fascination at the DJ ok, ok. for a start, no one was patronising anyone - I just dont get the watching the dj thing at all. cripes, it wasn't that long ago you couldnt even see the dj on the dancefloor, they'd be hidden away somewhere. and I wasn't referring to you either, I dont remember seeing you in the discussion, infact I was referring to cyclones comment, which was something like HEARING sasha dj, is like WATCHING a zombie and I don't remember me calling you out for being a jonny come lately francis. do you? and you should know better than to take anything that comes out of my mouth with anything other than a pinch of salt. I just dont get it at all. never have. anyway, I aint in the mood for this s**t... some bird in a car knocked me off my bike last night and my arse is killing me, I cant sit down. I'll keep my mouth shut. alex oh, and p.s. I AM THE CLUB MASTER. ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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http://createdigitalmusic.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=444Itemid=44 fairly on topic i should say. p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh gawd, here we go: P**s off!!! No one (well not many people) dances more than I do in a club. And I've been doing it for MANY years. Call me wrong headed (and if you remember the last time we had this discussion even I concluded I'm wrong headed about PC vs. vinyl and am working on over coming my problems) if you like but don't patronise me like you're some club master and I'm some jerk-johhny-come-lately who doesn't know any better than to stare in fascination at the DJ ok, ok. for a start, no one was patronising anyone - I just dont get the watching the dj thing at all. cripes, it wasn't that long ago you couldnt even see the dj on the dancefloor, they'd be hidden away somewhere. and I wasn't referring to you either, I dont remember seeing you in the discussion, infact I was referring to cyclones comment, which was something like HEARING sasha dj, is like WATCHING a zombie and I don't remember me calling you out for being a jonny come lately francis. do you? and you should know better than to take anything that comes out of my mouth with anything other than a pinch of salt. I just dont get it at all. never have. anyway, I aint in the mood for this s**t... some bird in a car knocked me off my bike last night and my arse is killing me, I cant sit down. I'll keep my mouth shut. alex oh, and p.s. I AM THE CLUB MASTER. ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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A slightly utopian ideal, is that every one at a club is there for the music... i reckon if u break an average night down...* you'll probably get 5% people who jus wanna get mashed..they couldnt care less where they are 10 % people who wanna be seen to be going out 10% people whowouldnt know what kind of music was being played if it came up and sold them a packet of monster munch 10% friends who jus come down to se you... 65 % there for the music and have a drink / dance * based on my last night in bristol. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh gawd, here we go: P**s off!!! No one (well not many people) dances more than I do in a club. And I've been doing it for MANY years. Call me wrong headed (and if you remember the last time we had this discussion even I concluded I'm wrong headed about PC vs. vinyl and am working on over coming my problems) if you like but don't patronise me like you're some club master and I'm some jerk-johhny-come-lately who doesn't know any better than to stare in fascination at the DJ ok, ok. for a start, no one was patronising anyone - I just dont get the watching the dj thing at all. cripes, it wasn't that long ago you couldnt even see the dj on the dancefloor, they'd be hidden away somewhere. and I wasn't referring to you either, I dont remember seeing you in the discussion, infact I was referring to cyclones comment, which was something like HEARING sasha dj, is like WATCHING a zombie and I don't remember me calling you out for being a jonny come lately francis. do you? and you should know better than to take anything that comes out of my mouth with anything other than a pinch of salt. I just dont get it at all. never have. anyway, I aint in the mood for this s**t... some bird in a car knocked me off my bike last night and my arse is killing me, I cant sit down. I'll keep my mouth shut. alex oh, and p.s. I AM THE CLUB MASTER. ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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A slightly utopian ideal, is that every one at a club is there for the music... I never said that though P. and, I had a club for 5 years, I must have done over 200 odd parties, so while I'm no expert - I think I can say I know as much as the man on the street. but, who in their right minds ever goes to a club to 'watch' a dj when they're not into the music? are you f**king kidding me? there are people who aren't into music to go to a club to 'watch', as in physically watch a dj? so the dj has to 'entertain' these people by doing a funny jig as well as playing music? well, f**k me, times have changed eh? this is f**king sad s**t if you ask me, and quite frankly I've had enough of all this bulls**t. 'dj culture' what a load of f**king rubbish that is. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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Interesting concept. Would you apply the same thinking to a turntabalist? Does a live band need to put on a show if the music in itself is wholly sufficient. If you take it one step further then why bother with DJs at all? You may as well just play pre-recorded mix CDs in clubs, at least that way you can guarantee a flawless, perfectly mixed set of all the best music. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ since when did a dj have to put on a 'show'? oh, wait, I know, since all the idiots who put dj's on pedestals wanted to see one. dj = disc jockey, someone who plays records yeah? thats the entertainment. you know, the sounds coming out the speakers. f**k me, have a dance, lose yourself in music, hey, maybe even try some social interaction - give it a whirl - sometimes it can be a rewarding experience. don't watch the dj, thats for f**king idiots. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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I think the pleasure to be had is knowing that someone is there controlling the floor with their music. Knowing that they aren't there would spoil it somehow - like when they used to do ISDN sets from Fuse in Belgium at The End in London - even though it was 'live' it just didn't quite work somehow. But strangely I can have the best night out ever with my back turned from the DJ, though it is also great to see the DJ bopping away enjoying himself. -Original Message- From: Stewart Caig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2005 10:56 To: 313 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Interesting concept. Would you apply the same thinking to a turntabalist? Does a live band need to put on a show if the music in itself is wholly sufficient. If you take it one step further then why bother with DJs at all? You may as well just play pre-recorded mix CDs in clubs, at least that way you can guarantee a flawless, perfectly mixed set of all the best music. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ since when did a dj have to put on a 'show'? oh, wait, I know, since all the idiots who put dj's on pedestals wanted to see one. dj = disc jockey, someone who plays records yeah? thats the entertainment. you know, the sounds coming out the speakers. f**k me, have a dance, lose yourself in music, hey, maybe even try some social interaction - give it a whirl - sometimes it can be a rewarding experience. don't watch the dj, thats for f**king idiots. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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all i'm gonna say here is that i was saying about a month ago on here that a good dj connects with the audience (whether you call that a performance i don't know) and most people disagreed. you don't need to see the dj to get this connection. so alex's point of a visual performance i think is a good point. it's more than just one tune then the next tho, a dj responds to an audience. 313 goes around in circles a lot of the time doesn't it? robin... Stewart Caig wrote: Interesting concept. Would you apply the same thinking to a turntabalist? Does a live band need to put on a show if the music in itself is wholly sufficient. If you take it one step further then why bother with DJs at all? You may as well just play pre-recorded mix CDs in clubs, at least that way you can guarantee a flawless, perfectly mixed set of all the best music. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ since when did a dj have to put on a 'show'? oh, wait, I know, since all the idiots who put dj's on pedestals wanted to see one. dj = disc jockey, someone who plays records yeah? thats the entertainment. you know, the sounds coming out the speakers. f**k me, have a dance, lose yourself in music, hey, maybe even try some social interaction - give it a whirl - sometimes it can be a rewarding experience. don't watch the dj, thats for f**king idiots. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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Regarding performind dj vs. just-ol-record-spinning-dj. I played a set at my home club after a long break and I had the best time behind the turntables. Dunno whether it was the break or what, but hearing the crowd cheering when playing a good BOOM BOOM BOOM ubercoolische just made me smile whilst browsing my records. That's the connection. Audience giving me feedback whether I should keep this track for another 32/64 on or whether to change the atmosphere all together. I don't concider me being a performing dj, just a lucky guy who gets a chance to play his favourite tunes at a club now and then and liking the fact that there are small amount of people liking the same kind of music. Sharing the music? To sum up, there must be a connection between the audience and the dj, but whether the connection is being made by dj punching through the air or just casually smiling or what ever, it doesn't really matter (at least to me). I like to see now and then dj smiling, because then I know he is having a good time and that can only mean positive vibes towards the dancefloor. Ok, pretty useless rant, everybody knows these things now that I proof read my post :) -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
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i think the dj should be a part of the party, same as the dancers etc. the scenario described by cyclone et al suggests that most djs behind the screen are less a part of the party (-vibe) than many djs behind decks. this does not necessarily mean that one has to make the clown.. just be *present*. and for sure it doesn't mean that we idolize the dj in rock star way already if we demand her *presence*. armin
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those people that so fervently lobby for the isolated dj, the dj that sits in the corner behind the screen or whatever, move the dj into a position of the same kind of the position of the "rock star dj" that (rightfully) gets knocked by those same people. the position of the dj separated from the party. separated by attitude, by mood, by hierarchic position. the holy dj that has to be left undisturbed alone in his corner because he is busy *creating*. fvck that. fvcking inflated egos. and even worse than the rock star dj who at least makes an idiot of himself and gives a show. and while i'm at it fvck those djs too that whine because they get requests. fvck that. get a life or become an *artist*.
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There was time that the dj was in a room and the tunes came over the air waves and we did not see the dj, we just liked what he/she was playing or not. When I was old enough to get in the clubs many moons ago, it was about trying to pick somebody up and hearing some good tracks as you go f**ck up. I also remember most of the dj where behind a glass walls or in some sort of both and were cut off from the audience. Maybe that was so the dj and light person could snort there coke and smoke weed. Then the 90's came around and it change for good or bad that is all subjective. Some go to se a person play records. Some go to hear music and other go just to have a good time. Frequencies provoke emotion and how the frequency are pushed should not matter so much as long as the frequency are getting pushed. Also back in the day and not so much now dj's had a MC to help out with the crowd interaction and get pep's all pump-up. Let's try not to over think this and just have a good time HS underground static www.vmax.net www.vstatic.com
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hey folks, well first a bit of an apology for a rant, but well, my ass hurts, so I'm in a bad mood. and, I'm not the most articulate, so obviously its a bit tricky explaining what I mean. of course I think the dj should be part of the party - thats what they are there for. I also think the dj should always look on the dancefloor. what I just dont understand, is the mind-set whereby the dj *HAS* to be visually entertaining to be a good dj. I dont geddit. sure, its great to see a dj bobbing around, enjoying his music etc, i guess it enhances the experience - I just dont think its the be all and end all at all. like some people seem to. err, thats all. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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vmax wrote: There was time that the dj was in a room and the tunes came over the air waves and we did not see the dj, we just liked what he/she was playing or not. When I was old enough to get in the clubs many moons ago, it was about trying to pick somebody up and hearing some good tracks as you go f**ck up. I also remember most of the dj where behind a glass walls or in some sort of both and were cut off from the audience. Maybe that was so the dj and light person could snort there coke and smoke weed. Quote from Greg Wilson is today's Manchester Evening News: Being a DJ was a whole different dynamic back then. I don't know if you remember the Hacienda in '83? Well the DJ booth was in a different room at the back of the stage where you couldn't see the crowd. It was only later did they move it upstairs. That's indicative of how the role of the DJ evolved. (If you wanna read that it's in an article about him playing tonite at Prescription in Manchester) Then the 90's came around and it change for good or bad that is all subjective. Some go to se a person play records. Some go to hear music and other go just to have a good time. Frequencies provoke emotion and how the frequency are pushed should not matter so much as long as the frequency are getting pushed. Also back in the day and not so much now dj's had a MC to help out with the crowd interaction and get pep's all pump-up. Let's try not to over think this and just have a good time Spot on. robin...
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my 2 eurocent: playing a laptop/FS set doesn't necessarily involve someone standing like a plant infront of a screen. ubercoolische Richie and Ricardo are examples as well as Mathew Jonson who danced in as much as the crowd and was even using hardware regarding djs vs. a mix cd: the main reason you have a human being playing/mixing records is because they are meant to read the crowd and response to it's feedback, selecting the records. personally i couldn't care less if the dj performer boogied their ass or not, i'm there to dance, and I usually dance giving my back to the dj. np:Reckless - Africa bambata.mp3 fab. CITYMORB MUSIC www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED] next release: CTM001 Receptor - Moving Head ep.
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over thinking? hahahha you call these few miserable lines *over thinking*? what's your *normal* dose of thinking then? vmax wrote: Let's try not to over think this and just have a good time HS underground static www.vmax.net www.vstatic.com
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robin wrote: Quote from Greg Wilson is today's Manchester Evening News: Being a DJ was a whole different dynamic back then. I don't know if you remember the Hacienda in '83? Well the DJ booth was in a different room at the back of the stage where you couldn't see the crowd. It was only later did they move it upstairs. That's indicative of how the role of the DJ evolved. aha, so this is a representative situation? apart that a setup like this is just plain stupid. armin
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ha wrote: robin wrote: Quote from Greg Wilson is today's Manchester Evening News: Being a DJ was a whole different dynamic back then. I don't know if you remember the Hacienda in '83? Well the DJ booth was in a different room at the back of the stage where you couldn't see the crowd. It was only later did they move it upstairs. That's indicative of how the role of the DJ evolved. aha, so this is a representative situation? apart that a setup like this is just plain stupid. it is now isn't it. i was just highlighting how it used to be done in a lot of clubs. to re-iterate, for a dj to be able to do their thing they need to be 'feeling' the dancers. erm so to speak robin...
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At least I had something to say other the ripping on some words that where put down.. On Apr 15, 2005, at 8:39 AM, ha wrote: over thinking? hahahha you call these few miserable lines *over thinking*? what's your *normal* dose of thinking then? vmax wrote: Let's try not to over think this and just have a good time HS underground static www.vmax.net www.vstatic.com
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i didn't mean your lines in case you thought that. was thinking of my own lines etc but to oppose thinking with having a good time is just whack. in fact it's trick to keep people from thinking. because thinking is a danger to the powers that be. but i'm being a smart ass. ain't i. armin vmax wrote: At least I had something to say other the ripping on some words that where put down.. On Apr 15, 2005, at 8:39 AM, ha wrote: over thinking? hahahha you call these few miserable lines *over thinking*? what's your *normal* dose of thinking then? vmax wrote: Let's try not to over think this and just have a good time HS underground static www.vmax.net www.vstatic.com
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i didn't mean your lines in case you thought that. was thinking of my own lines etc but to oppose thinking with having a good time is just whack. in fact it's trick to keep people from thinking. because thinking is a danger to all kinds of powers. but i'm being a smart ass. ain't i. armin vmax wrote: At least I had something to say other the ripping on some words that where put down.. On Apr 15, 2005, at 8:39 AM, ha wrote: over thinking? hahahha you call these few miserable lines *over thinking*? what's your *normal* dose of thinking then? vmax wrote: Let's try not to over think this and just have a good time HS underground static www.vmax.net www.vstatic.com
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Ermmm. So, cup of tea anyone? Listening To: Black Dog Eating: Almond Slice Drinking: Instant Coffee Thinking: Are words really a virus? Safe raving to the Tresor away crew and happy weekend 313ers... Martin
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Martin Dust wrote: Ermmm. So, cup of tea anyone? yeah milk, one sugar please. :) listening:keith Tucker 'it's a mood' eating: cheese and pickle doorsteps drinking: water (aircons broke in the building, 28degrees!) thinking: can i get the TeraGrid cluster at san diego working before i go home? (well u asked :) ) have a good weekend folks. robin...
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Arse, Alex, arse ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2005 12:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ hey folks, well first a bit of an apology for a rant, but well, my ass hurts, so I'm in a bad mood. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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thinking: can i get the TeraGrid cluster at san diego working before i go home? (well u asked :) ) Mirrored and arc'ed?
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I indeed did think you where ripping on my words, sorry if i mistaken what was meant. I am not opposed to thinking, I do a lot of it. I think that is part of the problem in the U.S. market when it comes to electronic music. Much of the music has no words and with no words and story to go with the frequencies it makes pep's think to much and most do not want to think they just want to live in a world of blaaa.. I mean you work all day on the lines and at the end of it all that last thing most would want to do is think, you get enough of that on the line.. 0% go's in to every day living.. H On Apr 15, 2005, at 9:11 AM, ha wrote: i didn't mean your lines in case you thought that. was thinking of my own lines etc but to oppose thinking with having a good time is just whack. in fact it's trick to keep people from thinking. because thinking is a danger to the powers that be. but i'm being a smart ass. ain't i. armin vmax wrote: At least I had something to say other the ripping on some words that where put down.. On Apr 15, 2005, at 8:39 AM, ha wrote: over thinking? hahahha you call these few miserable lines *over thinking*? what's your *normal* dose of thinking then? vmax wrote: Let's try not to over think this and just have a good time HS underground static www.vmax.net www.vstatic.com
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Martin Dust wrote: thinking: can i get the TeraGrid cluster at san diego working before i go home? (well u asked :) ) Mirrored and arc'ed? no, application RealityGrid enabled for steering and online visualisation :) robin...
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listening:dj funk - tracks from the dark side eating: scrambled egg on toast drinking:tea thinking:ipod schmi-pod
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listening: my kids say dad all day long. eating: don't know yet drinking: coffee thinking: when will I have time to get the PA set up... On Apr 15, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Martin Dust wrote: Ermmm. So, cup of tea anyone? Listening To: Black Dog Eating: Almond Slice Drinking: Instant Coffee Thinking: Are words really a virus? Safe raving to the Tresor away crew and happy weekend 313ers... Martin
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listening: Nouvelle Vague eating: Mozarella, Parma, Rocket Chili Oil on Ciabatte drinking: Guinness and (later) Champagne thinking: still worrying about being allowed into Germany with a shrunkenfaced passport -Original Message- From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2005 13:42 To: robin Cc: Martin Dust; 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ listening:dj funk - tracks from the dark side eating: scrambled egg on toast drinking:tea thinking:ipod schmi-pod # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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listening to: berlin dub sessions - lion dub.mp3 eating: nothing drinking: uliveto thinking about: a. what to eat b. how long it's goning to take before someone flips about this thread fab. CITYMORB MUSIC www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED] next release: CTM001 Receptor - Moving Head ep.
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thinking:ipod schmi-pod teehee p. : ) listening: the sound of my boss is reverberating in my ears this is your 2nd final warning alex harumph.tell someone who gives a f**k, f**kwad. and how can I have a 2nd final warning anyway? eating: nothing drinking: coffee thinking: does francis have the hump with me? have I broken my arse? is it possible to break your arse? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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thinking: does francis have the hump with me? have I broken my arse? is it possible to break your arse? Yes it is, ask Michael Barrymoore's swimming partner...I'm off down the pub, have a good one...
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Well, Alex, let me just put a different twist on things. Here in the great USA, people don't really like techno or weird bleeps and bloops. They like guitars and bands and rock n roll heroes mostly. So, I got me this band of my own called The Merry Dials. It's kind of kooky electropop. It's got no guitar - it's electric viola, keyboards, and the drummer plays key bass and drums at the same time. And we all sing funny vocals. So since there's so few places to DJ around here, and my mate's night where I used to spin got cancelled, I have started to DJ before and after our bands shows. Here's the thing - all these posers who watch the band aren't very into dancing. They like to watch a lot, God knows why. I find it slightly annoying, but anyways, you better damn well believe I got to put on a bit of a show when I'm twiddling my laptop. Otherwise I'll probably get bottles thrown at me cus people already think they hate techno, and they also hate laptops, so the odds are against me. But when I'm really working it, and especially when I'm mashing up 3-4 tracks at once on Ableton, people actually seem to start getting it. Course, I'm not one to just let the music play, I like to be the mad scientist type and combine lots of stuff at once. Seeing BMG in someone's living room actually inspired me to go this route. Anyway, I do agree, if I actually ever played somewhere with a crowd who wanted to just dance to good music, this wouldn't be an issue. BUT, maybe I have a chance to turn some people on to real techno who would never get it otherwise by presenting my music well. There are just too many people who can't understand what is going on musically unless you give them some visual cues to help interpret what is happening. I know it seems stupid, but people are very culturally conditioned and programmed, and some times you have to give them a lot of help so they can actually listen. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:37:02 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org A slightly utopian ideal, is that every one at a club is there for the music... I never said that though P. and, I had a club for 5 years, I must have done over 200 odd parties, so while I'm no expert - I think I can say I know as much as the man on the street. but, who in their right minds ever goes to a club to 'watch' a dj when they're not into the music? are you f**king kidding me? there are people who aren't into music to go to a club to 'watch', as in physically watch a dj? so the dj has to 'entertain' these people by doing a funny jig as well as playing music? well, f**k me, times have changed eh? this is f**king sad s**t if you ask me, and quite frankly I've had enough of all this bulls**t. 'dj culture' what a load of f**king rubbish that is. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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Martin, make the tea... ;) -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:25:10 +0100 From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Ermmm. So, cup of tea anyone? Listening To: Black Dog Eating: Almond Slice Drinking: Instant Coffee Thinking: Are words really a virus? Safe raving to the Tresor away crew and happy weekend 313ers... Martin
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What are you saying James? That we should moon the DJ and then kick them to the ground? MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] adersDigest.com To 04/14/05 09:58 PM Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ the only attention that should be paid to the dj is with your ass and, for the more energetic, feet. james www.jbucknell.com Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] u.nsw.gov.au To 313@hyperreal.org 15/04/05 12:42 PM cc Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ Yeah, but 'tis merely the novelty of it all I imagine. Most big DJs who are playing out on Final Scratch probably haven't really had the gear for long, especially when you express the time they've had it as a percentage of their total time on the 1s and 2s. Or maybe they're checking their email/watching the latest episode of Battlestar Galactica they got off bittorrent the day before. It's the perennial challenge, IMO - how do you turn an electronic music performance into a 'show'? And furthermore, ought you to? Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/15/05 11:06 am Every time I have seen a DJ with Final Scratch they look at the screen the whole set and never the crowd, and then the crowd gathers around and if they can they look at it as well. It's created a barrier. The next challenge is to find a way around that. It's very disengaged... At 2:36 PM -0400 4/14/05, /0 wrote: id like to play somewhere with sound good enough for me to differentiate between a 320k mp3 and a wav file I'd like to *dance* at a club with sound that good, too! Anyway, I still don't like the idea of computer files substituting for vinyl. Just think, if DJs ripped their vinyl favs onto their ipods (or laptop hard drives), where would taste-setting airline baggage handlers get their bumpin' tunes? I tell ya, the world will be a sadder and poorer place if those poor baggage handlers have only old Neil Diamond and Burl Ives records to listen to after work. It'll set civilization (or at least airline service) back at least forty years. -marc ForwardSourceID:NT0001D27A
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listening: scion + tikiman - live somewhere. listening to this yesterday but it's still in my brain! O_o eating: office coffee (yes, eating. not drinking) drinking: water thinking: are my taxes late if i mail them at lunch? what does the OTHER new fred giannelli record sound like? -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
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Well said. I wanna hear some of that merry music you and your friends dial. Anywhere accessible? I personally think that the universal deejay credo should be Play the music for the people and make them smile. keep it simple. Keep it love. Sounds like you're doing your best to do that. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems
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listening: Nouvelle Vague eating: Mozarella, Parma, Rocket Chili Oil on Ciabatte drinking: Guinness and (later) Champagne thinking: still worrying about being allowed into Germany with a shrunkenfaced passport You lot! What a life you lead. Listening to: nothing - trying to listen to Piccadilly's e-mail but as usual work does not really allow this meaning I keep playing the same 30 second clips over and over all week instead of just slapping a CD on in the background and enjoying the bits I occasionally tune into Eating: nothing - I'm at work and hungry Drinking: nothing - I'm at work Thinking about: nothing - other than it's nearly time to get out of this hell hole for 2 days : ) Mozzarella? Champagne? whew! Arse, Alex, arse ;-) Dunno maybe he was leading a donkey when he was knocked of his bike? Or it could have been a camel - he said something about a hump.
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listening: i was listening to someone vacuuming the office, until martin posted that los hermanos mix :-) eating: nothing, just finished an apple (granny smith) drinking: water thinking: hûh? now back to this agreement i have to check to see if all the IP related sections are dealt with.
Re: (313) iPod DJ - Prototype Ipod Numark mixer
official Numark response to my inquiry below. this thing is obviously just in the concept phase. We do not comment on any products that have not been officially released by any of our companies. All products that have been officially released by our companies can be found on our respective company web-sites. No one person or company has permission to print any renderings, concepts or trademarks of our products that are not officially represented on our official company web-sites. This person does not have our permission to place this image on his web-site. We do not have any official public information about this product, as it has not officially been launched by our companies (please see the paragraph above). When we do decide to officially announce and launch a product, corporate press releases, sales kits and promotional material will be sent to everyone. On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, Placid wrote: http://createdigitalmusic.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=444Itemid=44 fairly on topic i should say. p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh gawd, here we go: P**s off!!! No one (well not many people) dances more than I do in a club. And I've been doing it for MANY years. Call me wrong headed (and if you remember the last time we had this discussion even I concluded I'm wrong headed about PC vs. vinyl and am working on over coming my problems) if you like but don't patronise me like you're some club master and I'm some jerk-johhny-come-lately who doesn't know any better than to stare in fascination at the DJ ok, ok. for a start, no one was patronising anyone - I just dont get the watching the dj thing at all. cripes, it wasn't that long ago you couldnt even see the dj on the dancefloor, they'd be hidden away somewhere. and I wasn't referring to you either, I dont remember seeing you in the discussion, infact I was referring to cyclones comment, which was something like HEARING sasha dj, is like WATCHING a zombie and I don't remember me calling you out for being a jonny come lately francis. do you? and you should know better than to take anything that comes out of my mouth with anything other than a pinch of salt. I just dont get it at all. never have. anyway, I aint in the mood for this s**t... some bird in a car knocked me off my bike last night and my arse is killing me, I cant sit down. I'll keep my mouth shut. alex oh, and p.s. I AM THE CLUB MASTER. ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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listening: Bola - Gnayse eating: rice/chicken/tomato/cheeze/salsa bowl drinking: water... too much caffeine already today thinking: need to hire someone for ripping, warping, discogs catalogging duties
(313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please
listening: Yazoo - Only You eating: my bottom lip drinking: tea thinking: Vince Clarke is a genius (and wondering why it's not time to go home yet) send me suggestions for more strangely cold and detached synth-pop please (I've got the usual suspects: BEF/early Heaven 17, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, early Human League OMD, Pet Shop Boys, etc.) any interesting side projects that seemed to fly under the radar? solo careers worth checking out? MEK garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 04/15/05 02:45 PM 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ listening: Bola - Gnayse eating: rice/chicken/tomato/cheeze/salsa bowl drinking: water... too much caffeine already today thinking: need to hire someone for ripping, warping, discogs catalogging duties
Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: send me suggestions for more strangely cold and detached synth-pop please (I've got the usual suspects: BEF/early Heaven 17, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, early Human League OMD, Pet Shop Boys, etc.) any interesting side projects that seemed to fly under the radar? solo careers worth checking out? You might look into The Assembly; a series on one-offs Vince did with several guest vocalists. My fave is One Daywith Paul Quinn from Apres Ski. I know there's at least one more with Feargal Sharkey (It Never Happens to Me). Maybe another. I'd have to think about it. jeff
Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: listening: Yazoo - Only You eating: my bottom lip drinking: tea thinking: Vince Clarke is a genius (and wondering why it's not time to go home yet) send me suggestions for more strangely cold and detached synth-pop please (I've got the usual suspects: BEF/early Heaven 17, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, early Human League OMD, Pet Shop Boys, etc.) any interesting side projects that seemed to fly under the radar? solo careers worth checking out? different ratios of synth to pop: Visage. Vicious Pink. PSB. Dalek i , also known as Dalek I Love You. Oh, that other Assembly single is Never Never. Haruomi Hosono: SFX and Philharmony. Sakamoto : B2 Unit. YMO : Technodelic. Bill Nelson : Quit Dreaming and Get On The Beam (has some guitar as well). Telex Peter Godwin's Images of Heaven track. Thomas Leer CabVolt. a few Red Flag tracks. newer: You should give the last Future Bible Heroes' record (Eternal Youth) a spin - prime synthpop (FBH is a spinoff of Stephin Merritt's Magnetic Fields) The first Ladytron record. ...I'll think of 400 more after I post this.
Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: listening: Yazoo - Only You eating: my bottom lip drinking: tea thinking: Vince Clarke is a genius (and wondering why it's not time to go home yet) send me suggestions for more strangely cold and detached synth-pop please (I've got the usual suspects: BEF/early Heaven 17, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, early Human League OMD, Pet Shop Boys, etc.) any interesting side projects that seemed to fly under the radar? solo careers worth checking out? This is the last one: check the two LPs Giorgio Moroder produced for Sparks...one is No.1 in Heaven. Seems like there's another, but I can't recall it and I'm too lazy to dig through my rack to see. And if you're going to do that, you might as well dig up Kimono My House and Propaganda (by Sparks) - neither of them are synthpop at all, but they're great records :-) And, oh - the band Propaganda, of course. All that ZTT stuff is fun - pretentious, but fun. jeff
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Depending how much synth or pop one desires ... Propaganda, Scritti Politti, SPK, Strawberry Switchblade, Shakepeare's Sister, KTP, Blancmange, Camouflage, Boxcar Jeff I bet you got all these ;) Lisa listening: HBR1.com eating: a cinnamon-powdered doughnut drinking: tea with milk thinking: trying not to think too hard whilst typing up a paper due today - bleh theREALmxyzptlk wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: listening: Yazoo - Only You eating: my bottom lip drinking: tea thinking: Vince Clarke is a genius (and wondering why it's not time to go home yet) send me suggestions for more strangely cold and detached synth-pop please (I've got the usual suspects: BEF/early Heaven 17, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, early Human League OMD, Pet Shop Boys, etc.) any interesting side projects that seemed to fly under the radar? solo careers worth checking out? different ratios of synth to pop: Visage. Vicious Pink. PSB. Dalek i , also known as Dalek I Love You. Oh, that other Assembly single is Never Never. Haruomi Hosono: SFX and Philharmony. Sakamoto : B2 Unit. YMO : Technodelic. Bill Nelson : Quit Dreaming and Get On The Beam (has some guitar as well). Telex Peter Godwin's Images of Heaven track. Thomas Leer CabVolt. a few Red Flag tracks. newer: You should give the last Future Bible Heroes' record (Eternal Youth) a spin - prime synthpop (FBH is a spinoff of Stephin Merritt's Magnetic Fields) The first Ladytron record. ...I'll think of 400 more after I post this.
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lisa wrote: Depending how much synth or pop one desires ... Propaganda, Scritti Politti, SPK, Strawberry Switchblade, Shakepeare's Sister, KTP, Blancmange, Camouflage, Boxcar Jeff I bet you got all these ;) Lisa Yeah - spot on with Blancmange especially. Scritti Politti as well (after the punk phase - but I liked 'em then, too). Oh yeah, KTP - Big Man Restless :-) Surgical Penis Klinik - fairly serious stuff!! jeff
(313) iPod DJ
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At 01:42 PM 4/14/2005, Martin Dust wrote: http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow8.jpg http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow3.jpg Are those both Numark units? I think I have to talk to some friends of mine... :) -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
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Those are cool, so cool they might even be ubercoolische! :P Martin Dust wrote: http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow8.jpg http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow3.jpg
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yeah, i notice the conspicuous lack of any pitch faders, which might even be uber-ubercoolische since you wouldn't have to worry about the banality of beatmatching while your head's done in on erm... poststructuralism... --- lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those are cool, so cool they might even be ubercoolische! :P Martin Dust wrote: http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow8.jpg http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow3.jpg
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Well, I'll just say that in doing Ableton DJ sets, I've mostlyquit using mp3's, using only encoded vinyl and stuff I've ripped from CD's I own. I think avoiding mp3's really improves the sound quality. So I'm a bit skeptical what sound you'd get DJ-ing off i-pods. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) iPod DJ Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:43:52 -0400 From: matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org At 01:42 PM 4/14/2005, Martin Dust wrote: http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow8.jpg http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow3.jpg Are those both Numark units? I think I have to talk to some friends of mine... :) -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
