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Apologies to everyone on the list for this. I lost my phone and all accounts had to be reset so I guess that is the reason. Mislav -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 12:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] EZMLM already killed his subscriptions due to bounces On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > someone (Kent?) want to tell him to unsub his blackberry > > I got about ten bounce notices > > MEK > >
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EZMLM already killed his subscriptions due to bounces On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > someone (Kent?) want to tell him to unsub his blackberry > > I got about ten bounce notices > > MEK > >
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Ahem. -Original Message- From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2005 22:01 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, Juan didn't bother to show up last night and the promoters seemed unsure if he ever would again and I was all geared up to boogie too! :((( > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:46:59 + > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org > From: "Mike Melody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Yo-check it: > > Juan Atkins & The Necto present > JUAN ATKINS & FRIENDS > EVERY SUNDAY beginning Sunday, January 16th with a 4-hour set by Juan > $5 before 11pm > $10 after 11pm > ALL drinks, shots, drafts, & bottles only $2 before 11pm. > Doors @ 10pm > 18+ > www.necto.com for more info > The Necto > 516 E. Liberty St. > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > > ** > > Thanks Mike. This information might have consequences for me! > > k > > >
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Well, Juan didn't bother to show up last night and the promoters seemed unsure if he ever would again and I was all geared up to boogie too! :((( > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:46:59 + > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org > From: "Mike Melody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Yo-check it: > > Juan Atkins & The Necto present > JUAN ATKINS & FRIENDS > EVERY SUNDAY beginning Sunday, January 16th with a 4-hour set by Juan > $5 before 11pm > $10 after 11pm > ALL drinks, shots, drafts, & bottles only $2 before 11pm. > Doors @ 10pm > 18+ > www.necto.com for more info > The Necto > 516 E. Liberty St. > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > > ** > > Thanks Mike. This information might have consequences for me! > > k > > >
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:46:59 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org From: "Mike Melody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yo-check it: Juan Atkins & The Necto present JUAN ATKINS & FRIENDS EVERY SUNDAY beginning Sunday, January 16th with a 4-hour set by Juan $5 before 11pm $10 after 11pm ALL drinks, shots, drafts, & bottles only $2 before 11pm. Doors @ 10pm 18+ www.necto.com for more info The Necto 516 E. Liberty St. Ann Arbor, MI 48104 ** Thanks Mike. This information might have consequences for me! k
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Yo-check it: Juan Atkins & The Necto present JUAN ATKINS & FRIENDS EVERY SUNDAY beginning Sunday, January 16th with a 4-hour set by Juan $5 before 11pm $10 after 11pm ALL drinks, shots, drafts, & bottles only $2 before 11pm. Doors @ 10pm 18+ www.necto.com for more info The Necto 516 E. Liberty St. Ann Arbor, MI 48104 From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chana Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<313@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:08:56 - And anyone who knows when his next appearance there is scheduled, please post it up. Ta, k -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2005 21:24 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess the Sunday before last was his first night there. Perhaps thats why the system was so messed up, maybe he hadnt had a chance to tweak it, lets hope thats why. Ill definitely check it out again. So weird though it really did not look like him, or sound like him. But yeah I did hear his last release was harder and very good. Hopefully theyll get all the probs ironed out and Ill have a chance to hear it properly. chana --- John Osselaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I heard the same thing over the weekend, or at least > folks wondering if he > was resident there. Juan back in da D? Or was this > already posted or > sumtin'? > > John > > > --- > http://www.technotourist.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Melody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: maandag 24 januari 2005 21:48 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I think Juan is resident dj there, for now anyway. > I saw his pic in Metro > Times over the weekend and he looked like he lost a > lot of weight. > > M > > >From: "John Osselaer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'Chana Goodman'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'313'" > ><313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:01:38 +0100 > > > >Yes, that's Juan allright. > > > >Actually, I just got his new project on Tresor: the > Berlin Sessions, > >and it's also quite a bit more straight-forward > than the classic > >material. This doesn't mean that it's not good; on > the contrary. I > >guess it all more or less depends on your > expectations. I think he's > >defenitely going to reach a larger audience with > this. > > > >John > > > > > >--- > >http://www.technotourist.org > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: maandag 24 januari 2005 18:52 > >To: 313 > >Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >I recently went to the necto in Ann Arbor, Juan was > headlining. Wierd > >thing was that it didnt look like him and it did'nt > sound like him. It > >was a pretty hard techno set. One would hardly > know however > >considering the sound system was so bad I had to > strain to recognize > >any particular song. Does anyone know if this > really was him. If so > >he's lost like 35lbs and looks > >15 > >years younger?. Both of which are possible. > Anyone know the deal with > >this? > > > > > >chana > > > > > > > > _ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! > Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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He should write a book on it for real! I mean he's half the size he was
about six years ago. That's quite something.
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Nurse!
MEK
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On the weight-loss thing...this will probably totally destroy any
credibility I may have with the 313 crowd but I work in a bookstore and
love
stupid jokes so here goes...
He must be on the "Atkins" diet...
(hangs head in shame but giggles just the same)
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From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:52 PM
To: 313
Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I recently went to the necto in Ann Arbor, Juan was
headlining. Wierd thing was that it didnt look like
him and it did'nt sound like him. It was a pretty
hard techno set. One would hardly know however
considering the sound system was so bad I had to
strain to recognize any particular song. Does anyone
know if this really was him. If so he's lost like
35lbs and looks 15 years younger?. Both of which are
possible. Anyone know the deal with this?
chana
RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nurse!
MEK
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Subject
RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On the weight-loss thing...this will probably totally destroy any
credibility I may have with the 313 crowd but I work in a bookstore and
love
stupid jokes so here goes...
He must be on the "Atkins" diet...
(hangs head in shame but giggles just the same)
-Original Message-
From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:52 PM
To: 313
Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I recently went to the necto in Ann Arbor, Juan was
headlining. Wierd thing was that it didnt look like
him and it did'nt sound like him. It was a pretty
hard techno set. One would hardly know however
considering the sound system was so bad I had to
strain to recognize any particular song. Does anyone
know if this really was him. If so he's lost like
35lbs and looks 15 years younger?. Both of which are
possible. Anyone know the deal with this?
chana
RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On the weight-loss thing...this will probably totally destroy any credibility I may have with the 313 crowd but I work in a bookstore and love stupid jokes so here goes... He must be on the "Atkins" diet... (hangs head in shame but giggles just the same) -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:52 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I recently went to the necto in Ann Arbor, Juan was headlining. Wierd thing was that it didnt look like him and it did'nt sound like him. It was a pretty hard techno set. One would hardly know however considering the sound system was so bad I had to strain to recognize any particular song. Does anyone know if this really was him. If so he's lost like 35lbs and looks 15 years younger?. Both of which are possible. Anyone know the deal with this? chana
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And anyone who knows when his next appearance there is scheduled, please post it up. Ta, k -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2005 21:24 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess the Sunday before last was his first night there. Perhaps thats why the system was so messed up, maybe he hadnt had a chance to tweak it, lets hope thats why. Ill definitely check it out again. So weird though it really did not look like him, or sound like him. But yeah I did hear his last release was harder and very good. Hopefully theyll get all the probs ironed out and Ill have a chance to hear it properly. chana --- John Osselaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I heard the same thing over the weekend, or at least > folks wondering if he > was resident there. Juan back in da D? Or was this > already posted or > sumtin'? > > John > > > --- > http://www.technotourist.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Melody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: maandag 24 januari 2005 21:48 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I think Juan is resident dj there, for now anyway. > I saw his pic in Metro > Times over the weekend and he looked like he lost a > lot of weight. > > M > > >From: "John Osselaer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'Chana Goodman'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'313'" > ><313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:01:38 +0100 > > > >Yes, that's Juan allright. > > > >Actually, I just got his new project on Tresor: the > Berlin Sessions, > >and it's also quite a bit more straight-forward > than the classic > >material. This doesn't mean that it's not good; on > the contrary. I > >guess it all more or less depends on your > expectations. I think he's > >defenitely going to reach a larger audience with > this. > > > >John > > > > > >--- > >http://www.technotourist.org > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: maandag 24 januari 2005 18:52 > >To: 313 > >Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >I recently went to the necto in Ann Arbor, Juan was > headlining. Wierd > >thing was that it didnt look like him and it did'nt > sound like him. It > >was a pretty hard techno set. One would hardly > know however > >considering the sound system was so bad I had to > strain to recognize > >any particular song. Does anyone know if this > really was him. If so > >he's lost like 35lbs and looks > >15 > >years younger?. Both of which are possible. > Anyone know the deal with > >this? > > > > > >chana > > > > > > > > _ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! > Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > >
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> >Actually, I just got his new project on Tresor: the > Berlin Sessions, > >and it's also quite a bit more straight-forward > than the classic > >material. This doesn't mean that it's not good; on > the contrary. I > >guess it all more or less depends on your > expectations. I think he's > >defenitely going to reach a larger audience with > this. I can't wait to hear this stuff. Detroit meets Berlin, explicitly as in this care or not, is for me *the essence* of what 313ness is all about! On a slightly less relevant note, since it's been mentioned ... Juan lost a lot of weight a couple of years ago. Wife and kids will do that for you if you let 'em! I see it as a good sign of healthy living: Renditions of 'Cosmic Car' from a 60-year old Juan will be just as welcome as 'Tour De France' from a Kraftwerk in their mature years has been! k -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2005 21:24 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess the Sunday before last was his first night there. Perhaps thats why the system was so messed up, maybe he hadnt had a chance to tweak it, lets hope thats why. Ill definitely check it out again. So weird though it really did not look like him, or sound like him. But yeah I did hear his last release was harder and very good. Hopefully theyll get all the probs ironed out and Ill have a chance to hear it properly. chana --- John Osselaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I heard the same thing over the weekend, or at least > folks wondering if he > was resident there. Juan back in da D? Or was this > already posted or > sumtin'? > > John > > > --- > http://www.technotourist.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Melody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: maandag 24 januari 2005 21:48 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I think Juan is resident dj there, for now anyway. > I saw his pic in Metro > Times over the weekend and he looked like he lost a > lot of weight. > > M > > >From: "John Osselaer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'Chana Goodman'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'313'" > ><313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:01:38 +0100 > > > >Yes, that's Juan allright. > > > >Actually, I just got his new project on Tresor: the > Berlin Sessions, > >and it's also quite a bit more straight-forward > than the classic > >material. This doesn't mean that it's not good; on > the contrary. I > >guess it all more or less depends on your > expectations. I think he's > >defenitely going to reach a larger audience with > this. > > > >John > > > > > >--- > >http://www.technotourist.org > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: maandag 24 januari 2005 18:52 > >To: 313 > >Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >I recently went to the necto in Ann Arbor, Juan was > headlining. Wierd > >thing was that it didnt look like him and it did'nt > sound like him. It > >was a pretty hard techno set. One would hardly > know however > >considering the sound system was so bad I had to > strain to recognize > >any particular song. Does anyone know if this > really was him. If so > >he's lost like 35lbs and looks > >15 > >years younger?. Both of which are possible. > Anyone know the deal with > >this? > > > > > >chana > > > > > > > > _ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! > Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > >
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I guess the Sunday before last was his first night there. Perhaps thats why the system was so messed up, maybe he hadnt had a chance to tweak it, lets hope thats why. Ill definitely check it out again. So weird though it really did not look like him, or sound like him. But yeah I did hear his last release was harder and very good. Hopefully theyll get all the probs ironed out and Ill have a chance to hear it properly. chana --- John Osselaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I heard the same thing over the weekend, or at least > folks wondering if he > was resident there. Juan back in da D? Or was this > already posted or > sumtin'? > > John > > > --- > http://www.technotourist.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Melody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: maandag 24 januari 2005 21:48 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I think Juan is resident dj there, for now anyway. > I saw his pic in Metro > Times over the weekend and he looked like he lost a > lot of weight. > > M > > >From: "John Osselaer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'Chana Goodman'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'313'" > ><313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:01:38 +0100 > > > >Yes, that's Juan allright. > > > >Actually, I just got his new project on Tresor: the > Berlin Sessions, > >and it's also quite a bit more straight-forward > than the classic > >material. This doesn't mean that it's not good; on > the contrary. I > >guess it all more or less depends on your > expectations. I think he's > >defenitely going to reach a larger audience with > this. > > > >John > > > > > >--- > >http://www.technotourist.org > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: maandag 24 januari 2005 18:52 > >To: 313 > >Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >I recently went to the necto in Ann Arbor, Juan was > headlining. Wierd > >thing was that it didnt look like him and it did'nt > sound like him. It > >was a pretty hard techno set. One would hardly > know however > >considering the sound system was so bad I had to > strain to recognize > >any particular song. Does anyone know if this > really was him. If so > >he's lost like 35lbs and looks > >15 > >years younger?. Both of which are possible. > Anyone know the deal with > >this? > > > > > >chana > > > > > > > > _ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! > Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > >
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I heard the same thing over the weekend, or at least folks wondering if he was resident there. Juan back in da D? Or was this already posted or sumtin'? John --- http://www.technotourist.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mike Melody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 24 januari 2005 21:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think Juan is resident dj there, for now anyway. I saw his pic in Metro Times over the weekend and he looked like he lost a lot of weight. M >From: "John Osselaer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Chana Goodman'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'313'" ><313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:01:38 +0100 > >Yes, that's Juan allright. > >Actually, I just got his new project on Tresor: the Berlin Sessions, >and it's also quite a bit more straight-forward than the classic >material. This doesn't mean that it's not good; on the contrary. I >guess it all more or less depends on your expectations. I think he's >defenitely going to reach a larger audience with this. > >John > > >--- >http://www.technotourist.org >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-Original Message- >From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: maandag 24 januari 2005 18:52 >To: 313 >Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >I recently went to the necto in Ann Arbor, Juan was headlining. Wierd >thing was that it didnt look like him and it did'nt sound like him. It >was a pretty hard techno set. One would hardly know however >considering the sound system was so bad I had to strain to recognize >any particular song. Does anyone know if this really was him. If so >he's lost like 35lbs and looks >15 >years younger?. Both of which are possible. Anyone know the deal with >this? > > >chana > > > _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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I think Juan is resident dj there, for now anyway. I saw his pic in Metro Times over the weekend and he looked like he lost a lot of weight. M From: "John Osselaer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Chana Goodman'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:01:38 +0100 Yes, that's Juan allright. Actually, I just got his new project on Tresor: the Berlin Sessions, and it's also quite a bit more straight-forward than the classic material. This doesn't mean that it's not good; on the contrary. I guess it all more or less depends on your expectations. I think he's defenitely going to reach a larger audience with this. John --- http://www.technotourist.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 24 januari 2005 18:52 To: 313 Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I recently went to the necto in Ann Arbor, Juan was headlining. Wierd thing was that it didnt look like him and it did'nt sound like him. It was a pretty hard techno set. One would hardly know however considering the sound system was so bad I had to strain to recognize any particular song. Does anyone know if this really was him. If so he's lost like 35lbs and looks 15 years younger?. Both of which are possible. Anyone know the deal with this? chana _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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Yes, that's Juan allright. Actually, I just got his new project on Tresor: the Berlin Sessions, and it's also quite a bit more straight-forward than the classic material. This doesn't mean that it's not good; on the contrary. I guess it all more or less depends on your expectations. I think he's defenitely going to reach a larger audience with this. John --- http://www.technotourist.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 24 januari 2005 18:52 To: 313 Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I recently went to the necto in Ann Arbor, Juan was headlining. Wierd thing was that it didnt look like him and it did'nt sound like him. It was a pretty hard techno set. One would hardly know however considering the sound system was so bad I had to strain to recognize any particular song. Does anyone know if this really was him. If so he's lost like 35lbs and looks 15 years younger?. Both of which are possible. Anyone know the deal with this? chana
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uh oh does this mean another 'garnier sucks' thread? beside, nonwoo might try to take you on as biggest fan. On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Martijn de Blaauw wrote: > He's from Portsmouth, UK and the biggest Laurent Garnier fan in the > world > he's member of this list as well but his addy changed...it's > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Martijn > > > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 5:09 PM > Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone recognize this name? I have 313 emails bouncing back from him. I > > have no idea who he is. > > > > MEK > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.3 - Release Date: 14-12-2004 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.3 - Release Date: 14-12-2004 > >
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we sorted it out - thanks Martijn
although you've told me more about him than he did ;)
MEK
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He's from Portsmouth, UK and the biggest Laurent Garnier fan in the
world
he's member of this list as well but his addy changed...it's
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Martijn
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He's from Portsmouth, UK and the biggest Laurent Garnier fan in the world he's member of this list as well but his addy changed...it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martijn - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 5:09 PM Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Anyone recognize this name? I have 313 emails bouncing back from him. I > have no idea who he is. > > MEK > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.3 - Release Date: 14-12-2004 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.3 - Release Date: 14-12-2004
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just to clarify before i get characterised as a p2p hater :) i agree the below is legitimate use (i detailed it i my original post) robin... On 11 Aug 2004, at 04:09, Simon Hindle wrote: Yeah, I'll echo James' sentiments here - I too have no qualms about using the net to get hold of out-of-print rareties, but I find that downloading current stuff for preview purposes is great - I still spend as much money on vinyl as I used to, but thanks to the use of P2P as a 'listening post' I find that the quality-to-crap ratio of my purchases has improved immensely. Basically, I get to spend as long as I like (within reason) with a track before deciding whether to buy it or not - not a quick 2 minute listen in a shop or even worse a scratchy 30 second sample. Great for picking up those tracks that 'grow on you' which you might have initially disregarded on a record store visit and we've all done that, I'm sure... <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/08/2004 10:53:06 am >>> likewise, i don't regard p2p as the place to get quality files you'd play out. for that i do private exchanges. discogs is a great place to hook up with likeminded people. we're not talking recent releases on underground labels - i'm dealing with way out of print, rare sh*t that can't be bought anyway. there isn't any product to pay for in these cases that gives money to the label or producer. btw. robin, if as you say, downloading a file on p2p is stealing, then isn't downloading the file at emotionelectric.com also stealing? james www.jbucknell.com robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ctric.com> To 313 Org <313@hyperreal.org> 10/08/04 05:03 PM cc Subject (313) P2P i agree with ani below. thing is though if you want these tracks for playing out, or whatever, mp3s (unless the very minimum of 192k, and even then) just won't cut it. it has to be be a full wav/aiff. and do you trust th person who ripped it to do a good job of recording it in? (uness ripped off cd of course) i view the p2p dl's as just a way of hearing a full preview of the material really (like you can do on any record store but with short low quality clips). once heard an you like, buy it. the dl'ing of stuff off p2ps of underground labels is basically stealing. i know i know i've heard all the arguments about how this shti should be free etc etc. but we aren't talking huge record conglomerates here (dl'ing the latest missy elliot cd is a far cry from dl'ing a downlow release). in terms of underground labels we are talking people like us just scraping together cash to get a run of 500 records out. sometimes selling parts of prized record collections on ebay to do so. to steal off people like that is wrong and will be to the detriment of our scene. ok, i've gone off on one there where it praps wasn't necessary but i wanted to get that off my chest. i am not saying that p2ps are wrong or anything like that (though replace missy elliot with cubase and downlow with ableton and you have my views on cracked software) but i think people if they dl the latest underground release off a small label and they like it and play it then they are obliged to buy really. sharing of mixes etc on p2p (unless it's a proper release off a cd) is ok tho and is what i use p2ps for when i do. robin... can't wait to hear this. regarding p2p file sharing of unreleased material, i don't condone people stealing other peoples' material. but at the same time, i believe i have the freedom to download material because i only play vinyl and will ultimately have to buy the record anyway. i know the titles i will buy when they come out, and may want a listen before shopping. also, a bit of laziness when it comes to encoding vinyl contributes to my support of sharing music on p2ps. ForwardSourceID:NT0001103E
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Yeah, I'll echo James' sentiments here - I too have no qualms about using the net to get hold of out-of-print rareties, but I find that downloading current stuff for preview purposes is great - I still spend as much money on vinyl as I used to, but thanks to the use of P2P as a 'listening post' I find that the quality-to-crap ratio of my purchases has improved immensely. Basically, I get to spend as long as I like (within reason) with a track before deciding whether to buy it or not - not a quick 2 minute listen in a shop or even worse a scratchy 30 second sample. Great for picking up those tracks that 'grow on you' which you might have initially disregarded on a record store visit and we've all done that, I'm sure... >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/08/2004 10:53:06 am >>> likewise, i don't regard p2p as the place to get quality files you'd play out. for that i do private exchanges. discogs is a great place to hook up with likeminded people. we're not talking recent releases on underground labels - i'm dealing with way out of print, rare sh*t that can't be bought anyway. there isn't any product to pay for in these cases that gives money to the label or producer. btw. robin, if as you say, downloading a file on p2p is stealing, then isn't downloading the file at emotionelectric.com also stealing? james www.jbucknell.com robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ctric.com> To 313 Org <313@hyperreal.org> 10/08/04 05:03 PM cc Subject (313) P2P i agree with ani below. thing is though if you want these tracks for playing out, or whatever, mp3s (unless the very minimum of 192k, and even then) just won't cut it. it has to be be a full wav/aiff. and do you trust th person who ripped it to do a good job of recording it in? (uness ripped off cd of course) i view the p2p dl's as just a way of hearing a full preview of the material really (like you can do on any record store but with short low quality clips). once heard an you like, buy it. the dl'ing of stuff off p2ps of underground labels is basically stealing. i know i know i've heard all the arguments about how this shti should be free etc etc. but we aren't talking huge record conglomerates here (dl'ing the latest missy elliot cd is a far cry from dl'ing a downlow release). in terms of underground labels we are talking people like us just scraping together cash to get a run of 500 records out. sometimes selling parts of prized record collections on ebay to do so. to steal off people like that is wrong and will be to the detriment of our scene. ok, i've gone off on one there where it praps wasn't necessary but i wanted to get that off my chest. i am not saying that p2ps are wrong or anything like that (though replace missy elliot with cubase and downlow with ableton and you have my views on cracked software) but i think people if they dl the latest underground release off a small label and they like it and play it then they are obliged to buy really. sharing of mixes etc on p2p (unless it's a proper release off a cd) is ok tho and is what i use p2ps for when i do. robin... > can't wait to hear this. > > regarding p2p file sharing of unreleased material, i don't condone > people stealing other peoples' material. but at the same time, i > believe i have the freedom to download material because i only play > vinyl and will ultimately have to buy the record anyway. i know the > titles i will buy when they come out, and may want a listen before > shopping. also, a bit of laziness when it comes to encoding vinyl > contributes to my support of sharing music on p2ps. > > ForwardSourceID:NT0001103E
Re: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/03 track ID
The first track is his own edit of In The Bush, followed by Heiko Laux - Position Flipped. The full tracklist and mix are available from http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html Gary - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:59 AM Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/03 track ID > > > > > anyone know the track at around 11:33? Big funky bassline and the other(?) > track that he mixes over/under it @ 13:08 with the long bell ring sound? > > this is a bumping mix - never heard Surgeon so funky but then again I don't > listen to his mixes enough. Is he usually this hip-shakin' good? > > MEK > > > -- > This email has been verified as Virus free > Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net
RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from a kind soul on the idm list Put 213.171.193.71 www.dj-surgeon.com into your hosts file (C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts for Windows 2K/XP) works for me now --- Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Still doesn't bloody work! > I'll have to get someone to burn it for me - I > missed the Werk party due to illness and was gutted > > -Original Message- > From: McAllister, Nic > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:27 PM > To: 'Martin'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 > Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > use this link > > http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html > > and not > > http://www.dj-surgeon.com/ as i think the link on > the front page has gone > down. > > Lust listening to is T-Funkshun set 30 minutes in 6 > surgeon tunes with > Innercity intertwined in and out of them all. > Badger is Biting at the > moment > Skill > > -Original Message----- > From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 October 2003 18:15 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 > Subject: Re: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Odd it's working fine here :) It a brilliant mix, > some top moments in > it...I'm loving his work... > > 29/10/03 6:17 PM Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > whole site seems to be down now. can't wait to > hear > > this.. > > > > --- Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Surgeon has just mailed me to say he now has a > set > >> available from his > >> site... > >> > >> http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html > >> > >> Well worth the wait...and it's a top mix > >> > >> Martin
Re: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The mix is enclosed inside a ZIP archive, its absolute link is : http://www.dj-surgeon.com/download%20files/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -KiDD*e* - Original Message - From: "Garrett McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maarten Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "McAllister, Nic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:46 PM Subject: Re: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > this is a streaming set, no? so could someone look at > the source in whatever player you are using and post > the actual url? > > --- Maarten Baute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Seems like their server is down. The reason why > > audio.html did work with > > some people, is because it was in their local cache > > memory or maybe in the > > cache of their providers proxy server. > > > > Cheers, > > Maarten
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this is a streaming set, no? so could someone look at the source in whatever player you are using and post the actual url? --- Maarten Baute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seems like their server is down. The reason why > audio.html did work with > some people, is because it was in their local cache > memory or maybe in the > cache of their providers proxy server. > > Cheers, > Maarten > >
RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nope - not working here either. I found the website with google and it
still couldn't find the server.
something is messed up
MEK
"Robert Taylor"
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Still doesn't bloody work!
I'll have to get someone to burn it for me - I missed the Werk party due to
illness and was gutted
-Original Message-
From: McAllister, Nic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:27 PM
To: 'Martin'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
use this link
http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html
and not
http://www.dj-surgeon.com/ as i think the link on the front page has gone
down.
Lust listening to is T-Funkshun set 30 minutes in 6 surgeon tunes with
Innercity intertwined in and out of them all. Badger is Biting at the
moment
Skill
-Original Message-
From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 October 2003 18:15
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
Subject: Re: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Odd it's working fine here :) It a brilliant mix, some top moments in
it...I'm loving his work...
29/10/03 6:17 PM Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whole site seems to be down now. can't wait to hear
> this..
>
> --- Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Surgeon has just mailed me to say he now has a set
>> available from his
>> site...
>>
>> http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html
>>
>> Well worth the wait...and it's a top mix
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>
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Seems like their server is down. The reason why audio.html did work with some people, is because it was in their local cache memory or maybe in the cache of their providers proxy server. Cheers, Maarten
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doesn't work here. nothing from that domain works here at the moment. did yesterday however. --- "McAllister, Nic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > use this link > > http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html > > and not > > http://www.dj-surgeon.com/ as i think the link on > the front page has gone > down. > > Lust listening to is T-Funkshun set 30 minutes in 6 > surgeon tunes with > Innercity intertwined in and out of them all. > Badger is Biting at the > moment > Skill > > -Original Message- > From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 October 2003 18:15 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 > Subject: Re: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Odd it's working fine here :) It a brilliant mix, > some top moments in > it...I'm loving his work... > > 29/10/03 6:17 PM Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > whole site seems to be down now. can't wait to > hear > > this.. > > > > --- Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Surgeon has just mailed me to say he now has a > set > >> available from his > >> site... > >> > >> http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html > >> > >> Well worth the wait...and it's a top mix > >> > >> Martin > >> > >> > > > > > > > > The information contained in or attached to this > email is > intended only for the use of the individual or > entity to > which it is addressed. If you are not the intended > recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it > to the > intended recipient, you are not authorised to and > must not > disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message > or any > part of it. It may contain information which is > confidential > and/or covered by legal professional or other > privilege (or > other rules or laws with similar effect in > jurisdictions > outside England and Wales). > The views expressed in this email are not > necessarily the > views of Centrica plc, and the company, its > directors, > officers or employees make no representation or > accept any > liability for its accuracy or completeness unless > expressly > stated to the contrary. > >
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Still doesn't bloody work! I'll have to get someone to burn it for me - I missed the Werk party due to illness and was gutted -Original Message- From: McAllister, Nic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:27 PM To: 'Martin'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] use this link http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html and not http://www.dj-surgeon.com/ as i think the link on the front page has gone down. Lust listening to is T-Funkshun set 30 minutes in 6 surgeon tunes with Innercity intertwined in and out of them all. Badger is Biting at the moment Skill -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2003 18:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: Re: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Odd it's working fine here :) It a brilliant mix, some top moments in it...I'm loving his work... 29/10/03 6:17 PM Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] > whole site seems to be down now. can't wait to hear > this.. > > --- Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Surgeon has just mailed me to say he now has a set >> available from his >> site... >> >> http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html >> >> Well worth the wait...and it's a top mix >> >> Martin >> >> > > The information contained in or attached to this email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are not authorised to and must not disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. It may contain information which is confidential and/or covered by legal professional or other privilege (or other rules or laws with similar effect in jurisdictions outside England and Wales). The views expressed in this email are not necessarily the views of Centrica plc, and the company, its directors, officers or employees make no representation or accept any liability for its accuracy or completeness unless expressly stated to the contrary. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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use this link http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html and not http://www.dj-surgeon.com/ as i think the link on the front page has gone down. Lust listening to is T-Funkshun set 30 minutes in 6 surgeon tunes with Innercity intertwined in and out of them all. Badger is Biting at the moment Skill -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2003 18:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: Re: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Odd it's working fine here :) It a brilliant mix, some top moments in it...I'm loving his work... 29/10/03 6:17 PM Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] > whole site seems to be down now. can't wait to hear > this.. > > --- Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Surgeon has just mailed me to say he now has a set >> available from his >> site... >> >> http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html >> >> Well worth the wait...and it's a top mix >> >> Martin >> >> > > The information contained in or attached to this email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are not authorised to and must not disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. It may contain information which is confidential and/or covered by legal professional or other privilege (or other rules or laws with similar effect in jurisdictions outside England and Wales). The views expressed in this email are not necessarily the views of Centrica plc, and the company, its directors, officers or employees make no representation or accept any liability for its accuracy or completeness unless expressly stated to the contrary.
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Odd it's working fine here :) It a brilliant mix, some top moments in it...I'm loving his work... 29/10/03 6:17 PM Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] > whole site seems to be down now. can't wait to hear > this.. > > --- Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Surgeon has just mailed me to say he now has a set >> available from his >> site... >> >> http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html >> >> Well worth the wait...and it's a top mix >> >> Martin >> >> > >
Re: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
whole site seems to be down now. can't wait to hear this.. --- Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Surgeon has just mailed me to say he now has a set > available from his > site... > > http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html > > Well worth the wait...and it's a top mix > > Martin > >
RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Has this been inundated with visitors? I wanted to listen to it but can't access the site (at least I won't p!ss off my colleagues - check this site for colleague friendly but cool music - http://www.mixoftheweek.com/) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:04 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Surgeon has just mailed me to say he now has a set available from his site... http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html Well worth the wait...and it's a top mix Martin # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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pure skill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2003 14:56 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow, what a set.. The information contained in or attached to this email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are not authorised to and must not disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. It may contain information which is confidential and/or covered by legal professional or other privilege (or other rules or laws with similar effect in jurisdictions outside England and Wales). The views expressed in this email are not necessarily the views of Centrica plc, and the company, its directors, officers or employees make no representation or accept any liability for its accuracy or completeness unless expressly stated to the contrary.
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Wow, what a set..
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yahooo! :) cheers guys! -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2003 12:04 To: 313 Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Surgeon has just mailed me to say he now has a set available from his site... http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html Well worth the wait...and it's a top mix Martin --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 22/10/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 22/10/03
RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX
Marc: btw does anyone know if there is any of those mixes from the first 313 night at public life by any chance ? the mixes can be found at http://www.microlovr.com/313party/. the files are quite large because i encoded them at a decent quality and unfortunately my server and adsl connection can't handle too much traffic so please be patient if you do try to download anything. when i get a chance i'll re-encode the files at a lower quality so that i can attempt to make them available for streaming and also lessen the burden on my server. ta rob _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX
Make room for me! I will also be busting moves! There's at least 10 313ers I can think of off the top my head who will be attending so other London (or Brit even) 313er have no excuses! -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 4:48 PM To: Quest Pond; 313 mailing list Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX There will be a heavy 313 presence at Slices next weekend - it's Saturday 21st December, and is happening at Public Life which is just near Liverpool Street. I think there are three or four 313ers playing, and there will be many more than that on the dancefloor! Brendan | -Original Message- | From: Quest Pond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 12 December 2002 16:48 | To: 313 mailing list | Subject: FW: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX | | | There is also a mix set of his that can be listened to on the | groovetech.com archives. | | Also on this subject is there any news of and decent 313 | events closer to london in the next few weeks? I have | recently relocated from Sydney to London and am not quite in | touch with happenings. | | | Quest Pond | www.deepspace.net.au | | -Original Message- | From: dj337is [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 12 December 2002 15:20 | To: '313 mailing list' | Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX | | | Probably, no one needs to be told this, but Ed DMX is a | mighty fine DJ. He really had the crowd enjoying themselves | here in Detroit when he rolled through for the Ghostly | International party celebrating the release of the excellent | Disco Nouveau. I was stunned and very delighted to see the | "hardcore elite" of the D singing along with "don't you want | me baby, don't you want me o?" and slow dancing to | Prince at the end of the night. Ed himself was fun to watch | because when the spirit moved him and he really was feeling | the tune, off came the headphones and he'd do the disco | shuffle from side to side in the booth with his long hair | exploding in motion around him and his fine, green sports tee | (was it a Saucony?) | | At any rate, I'm jealous and would love to go to this event. | For free no less. If you have the chance, don't miss it. | You'll leave with a big smile on your face if it's anything | like the show we were treated to here in Detroit. | | Thanks again Sam, that was a quality evening. | | Leslie Rollins | | -Original Message- | From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:20 AM | To: 313 mailing list | Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX | | Quick post to remind anyone in the Midlands of the UK that at | Sunglasses At Night tonight (our last event of 2002) we have | special guest DJ Ed DMX (of DMX Krew/Computor | Rockers/Rephlex/Breakin'/Gigolo etc fame). | | Entrance is FREE, the event runs 8pm-midnight, the drinks are | cheap and the venue is Junktion 7 in Nottingham (www.junktion7.co.uk). Email me for any further info. Next up is the Kraftwerk special on 9th Jan. Thankyou for your attention. TOM Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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btw does anyone know if there is any of those mixes from the first 313 night at public life by any chance ? > -Original Message- > From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 December 2002 16:48 > To: Quest Pond; 313 mailing list > Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX > > > There will be a heavy 313 presence at Slices next weekend - it's > Saturday 21st December, and is happening at Public Life which is just > near Liverpool Street. I think there are three or four 313ers playing, > and there will be many more than that on the dancefloor! > > Brendan > > | -Original Message- > | From: Quest Pond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | Sent: 12 December 2002 16:48 > | To: 313 mailing list > | Subject: FW: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX > | > | > | There is also a mix set of his that can be listened to on the > | groovetech.com archives. > | > | Also on this subject is there any news of and decent 313 > | events closer to london in the next few weeks? I have > | recently relocated from Sydney to London and am not quite in > | touch with happenings. > | > | > | Quest Pond > | www.deepspace.net.au > | > | -Original Message- > | From: dj337is [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | Sent: 12 December 2002 15:20 > | To: '313 mailing list' > | Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX > | > | > | Probably, no one needs to be told this, but Ed DMX is a > | mighty fine DJ. He really had the crowd enjoying themselves > | here in Detroit when he rolled through for the Ghostly > | International party celebrating the release of the excellent > | Disco Nouveau. I was stunned and very delighted to see the > | "hardcore elite" of the D singing along with "don't you want > | me baby, don't you want me o?" and slow dancing to > | Prince at the end of the night. Ed himself was fun to watch > | because when the spirit moved him and he really was feeling > | the tune, off came the headphones and he'd do the disco > | shuffle from side to side in the booth with his long hair > | exploding in motion around him and his fine, green sports tee > | (was it a Saucony?) > | > | At any rate, I'm jealous and would love to go to this event. > | For free no less. If you have the chance, don't miss it. > | You'll leave with a big smile on your face if it's anything > | like the show we were treated to here in Detroit. > | > | Thanks again Sam, that was a quality evening. > | > | Leslie Rollins > | > | -Original Message- > | From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:20 AM > | To: 313 mailing list > | Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX > | > | Quick post to remind anyone in the Midlands of the UK that at > | Sunglasses At Night tonight (our last event of 2002) we have > | special guest DJ Ed DMX (of DMX Krew/Computor > | Rockers/Rephlex/Breakin'/Gigolo etc fame). > | > | Entrance is FREE, the event runs 8pm-midnight, the drinks are > | cheap and the venue is Junktion 7 in Nottingham > (www.junktion7.co.uk). Email me for any further info. > > Next up is the Kraftwerk special on 9th Jan. > > Thankyou for your attention. > > TOM > > > > -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
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There will be a heavy 313 presence at Slices next weekend - it's Saturday 21st December, and is happening at Public Life which is just near Liverpool Street. I think there are three or four 313ers playing, and there will be many more than that on the dancefloor! Brendan | -Original Message- | From: Quest Pond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 12 December 2002 16:48 | To: 313 mailing list | Subject: FW: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX | | | There is also a mix set of his that can be listened to on the | groovetech.com archives. | | Also on this subject is there any news of and decent 313 | events closer to london in the next few weeks? I have | recently relocated from Sydney to London and am not quite in | touch with happenings. | | | Quest Pond | www.deepspace.net.au | | -Original Message- | From: dj337is [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 12 December 2002 15:20 | To: '313 mailing list' | Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX | | | Probably, no one needs to be told this, but Ed DMX is a | mighty fine DJ. He really had the crowd enjoying themselves | here in Detroit when he rolled through for the Ghostly | International party celebrating the release of the excellent | Disco Nouveau. I was stunned and very delighted to see the | "hardcore elite" of the D singing along with "don't you want | me baby, don't you want me o?" and slow dancing to | Prince at the end of the night. Ed himself was fun to watch | because when the spirit moved him and he really was feeling | the tune, off came the headphones and he'd do the disco | shuffle from side to side in the booth with his long hair | exploding in motion around him and his fine, green sports tee | (was it a Saucony?) | | At any rate, I'm jealous and would love to go to this event. | For free no less. If you have the chance, don't miss it. | You'll leave with a big smile on your face if it's anything | like the show we were treated to here in Detroit. | | Thanks again Sam, that was a quality evening. | | Leslie Rollins | | -Original Message- | From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:20 AM | To: 313 mailing list | Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX | | Quick post to remind anyone in the Midlands of the UK that at | Sunglasses At Night tonight (our last event of 2002) we have | special guest DJ Ed DMX (of DMX Krew/Computor | Rockers/Rephlex/Breakin'/Gigolo etc fame). | | Entrance is FREE, the event runs 8pm-midnight, the drinks are | cheap and the venue is Junktion 7 in Nottingham (www.junktion7.co.uk). Email me for any further info. Next up is the Kraftwerk special on 9th Jan. Thankyou for your attention. TOM
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Probably, no one needs to be told this, but Ed DMX is a mighty fine DJ. He really had the crowd enjoying themselves here in Detroit when he rolled through for the Ghostly International party celebrating the release of the excellent Disco Nouveau. I was stunned and very delighted to see the "hardcore elite" of the D singing along with "don't you want me baby, don't you want me o?" and slow dancing to Prince at the end of the night. Ed himself was fun to watch because when the spirit moved him and he really was feeling the tune, off came the headphones and he'd do the disco shuffle from side to side in the booth with his long hair exploding in motion around him and his fine, green sports tee (was it a Saucony?) At any rate, I'm jealous and would love to go to this event. For free no less. If you have the chance, don't miss it. You'll leave with a big smile on your face if it's anything like the show we were treated to here in Detroit. Thanks again Sam, that was a quality evening. Leslie Rollins -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:20 AM To: 313 mailing list Subject: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight: Ed DMX Quick post to remind anyone in the Midlands of the UK that at Sunglasses At Night tonight (our last event of 2002) we have special guest DJ Ed DMX (of DMX Krew/Computor Rockers/Rephlex/Breakin'/Gigolo etc fame). Entrance is FREE, the event runs 8pm-midnight, the drinks are cheap and the venue is Junktion 7 in Nottingham (www.junktion7.co.uk). Email me for any further info. Next up is the Kraftwerk special on 9th Jan. Thankyou for your attention. TOM
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>Body & Soul @ Vinyl > >6 Hubert Street > >Many taxi drivers don't seem to know exactly where Hubert Street is (it's relatively small), so I would tell them between Greenwich & Hudson, a few blocks south of Canal. They shouldn't have any trouble from there. > >And just in case: I noticed you referred to it as Body & Soul night, but it's more like Body & Soul evening/afternoon. Just an important point so your friend doesn't show up too late. I generally hit the place around 7:00PM. If it's your only chance to go, I'd recommend going even earlier, around 5ish, just to experience the buildup from the latin/soul/(afro)funk they play early on, seamlessly going into the house tracks later on. Otto, suffering from B&S withdrawal symptoms... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Body & Soul @ Vinyl 6 Hubert Street Many taxi drivers don't seem to know exactly where Hubert Street is (it's relatively small), so I would tell them between Greenwich & Hudson, a few blocks south of Canal. They shouldn't have any trouble from there. And just in case: I noticed you referred to it as Body & Soul night, but it's more like Body & Soul evening/afternoon. Just an important point so your friend doesn't show up too late. I generally hit the place around 7: 00PM. http://www.bodyandsoul-nyc.com/ And make sure she doesn't miss it! Brent On Wednesday, March 20, 2002, at 10:36 , Super Coffee Beans wrote: hi all. a good friend of main will be in NY from this frieday. she asks about 313 related stuff or other cool stuff about this city. p.s.- does anyone knows the address and day for the "body and soul" nite? kind regards y - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'd say the Ewoks were very important in Return of The Jedi. Seeing them and their development on Endor(land) gave us a realisation of how great in staure Chewbacca was, who incidentally had more or less been around from day one but just sitting on his arse (fanny or whatever). But both were certainly required. SM - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:32 AM Subject: RE: [313] RE:[313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> if it wasn't for us trendy brits techno would've died many years ago... > >> > > hm, so you would also say that the introduction of the Ewoks in star wars 3 > was important ? > > >> and house would still be seen as a gay thing > > hm - well my first house experience was in a kind of a gay club and that was > cool - unforgetable > > and please then let me know why a friend keeps saying - the gay brits ? > > ;D ;D ;D ;D > > > >> > >> :) :) > >> > >> robin... > > -- > LoveThemPlanetZ > peoplez > plantz > peaze > pluz > m > > GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > http://www.gmx.net > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 24/1/02 11:32 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > hm, so you would also say that the introduction of the Ewoks in star wars 3 > was important ? actually, it was star wars 6. see, it takes yet another brit to truly understand yet another part of US culture. LOL;) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Tell him. It's bizarre when some people effectively want to close themselves > off from all outside influences ... there lies danger - in fact of course, > we're already experiencing the consequences of that. Sad. everybody who is checking the music history a lil bit knows that too - and it´s not that you talk about a story, that is gonna get lost at the moment and this is what I think is funny - all the Models in Paris cut their hair new wave kind a to be trendy all the mainstream-music video´s - from "Pink, Babyface + Kylie Minogue" come up with the 80ies reference - it´s just the pop-buzz of 2001 / 2002 and I´ve got tons of GB-jokes here in case you want them :D -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Star Wars, an institution that would not exist without UK studios (Pinewood) and a whole host of British actors - running throughout the series, including heavyweights like Sir Alec Guinness, who you may have heard of. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:33 AM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: [313] RE:[313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> if it wasn't for us trendy brits techno would've died many years ago... >>> > >hm, so you would also say that the introduction of the Ewoks in star wars 3 >was important ? > >>> and house would still be seen as a gay thing > >hm - well my first house experience was in a kind of a gay club >and that was >cool - unforgetable > >and please then let me know why a friend keeps saying - the gay brits ? > >;D ;D ;D ;D > > >>> >>> :) :) >>> >>> robin... > >-- >LoveThemPlanetZ >peoplez >plantz >peaze >pluz >m > >GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. >http://www.gmx.net > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Tell him. It's bizarre when some people effectively want to close themselves > off from all outside influences ... there lies danger - in fact of course, > we're already experiencing the consequences of that. Sad. as much as the original poster thought he was joking, the transatlantic thing has played a huge role in house and techno so far and will continue to do so...(i'm not just talking uk now, but europe) this music has the power to bridge huge distances and is not language specific. if that is not a unifying force for humanity i dunno what is. obviously i'm a brit (actually i'm a european) so i'm bound to say that :) thassall i'm gonna say. cheers robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> if it wasn't for us trendy brits techno would've died many years ago... >> hm, so you would also say that the introduction of the Ewoks in star wars 3 was important ? >> and house would still be seen as a gay thing hm - well my first house experience was in a kind of a gay club and that was cool - unforgetable and please then let me know why a friend keeps saying - the gay brits ? ;D ;D ;D ;D >> >> :) :) >> >> robin... -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tell him. It's bizarre when some people effectively want to close themselves off from all outside influences ... there lies danger - in fact of course, we're already experiencing the consequences of that. Sad. >-Original Message- >From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:46 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] RE:[313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> >> but this announcment is the typical british bull hipster way to blow up >> stuff ... > > >:) > >ok i'll bite: > >if it wasn't for us trendy brits techno would've died many years ago... > >and house would still be seen as a gay thing > >:) :) > >robin... > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > but this announcment is the typical british bull hipster way to blow up > stuff ... :) ok i'll bite: if it wasn't for us trendy brits techno would've died many years ago... and house would still be seen as a gay thing :) :) robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Looks good to me. If you were kidnapped sedated and revived on the dancefloor with a vodka redbull in hand, would you not have a good time? I rest my case. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:39 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: [313] RE:[313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> i'm sure if it was your home town >> with details of something new, you'd >> have a different perspective. >> > >sorry, > >but you don´t get me, do you ? > >I´m just having a very good laugh - > >look, much of the stuff in the selection is great and > >no word against Nottingham - respect 4 Nottingham-Castle. > >Nottingham-partys or Magic - it´s great, it´s 4 free and stuff ... > >but look at this once again - > >don´t you think that the selection is somehow a bit trendy (typical >GB-style)? > >:D :D :D > >- >An evening of new & old synth pop, new wave, electro, >disco nouveau & ersatz funk through a wide-angle lens > >Playing the music of >New Order . Kraftwerk . Fischerspooner . LFO >Miss Kittin & The Hacker . Grace Jones . Adult . i-f >Gary Numan . Daniel Wang . DMX Krew . Cybotron >Human League . Cabaret Voltaire . Ladytron . Pet Shop Boys >Soft Cell . Felix Da Housecat . Dopplereffekt . Cameo >Visage . Mantronix . Detroit Grand Pubahs . Radiohead > > >-- >LoveThemPlanetZ >peoplez >plantz >peaze >pluz >m > >GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. >http://www.gmx.net > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> i'm sure if it was your home town > with details of something new, you'd > have a different perspective. > sorry, but you don´t get me, do you ? I´m just having a very good laugh - look, much of the stuff in the selection is great and no word against Nottingham - respect 4 Nottingham-Castle. Nottingham-partys or Magic - it´s great, it´s 4 free and stuff ... but look at this once again - don´t you think that the selection is somehow a bit trendy (typical GB-style)? :D :D :D - An evening of new & old synth pop, new wave, electro, disco nouveau & ersatz funk through a wide-angle lens Playing the music of New Order . Kraftwerk . Fischerspooner . LFO Miss Kittin & The Hacker . Grace Jones . Adult . i-f Gary Numan . Daniel Wang . DMX Krew . Cybotron Human League . Cabaret Voltaire . Ladytron . Pet Shop Boys Soft Cell . Felix Da Housecat . Dopplereffekt . Cameo Visage . Mantronix . Detroit Grand Pubahs . Radiohead -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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yes try - unsubscribe i was actually glad to receive it and will probably make a trip down there. i'm sure if it was your home town with details of something new, you'd have a different perspective. paul - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 6:53 PM Subject: [313] RE:[313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > sorry, > > but this announcment is the typical british bull hipster way to blow up > stuff ... > > Is there some kind of button to switch off - the mails coming from over > there ? > > :D :D :D > > > -- > LoveThemPlanetZ > peoplez > plantz > peaze > pluz > m > > GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > http://www.gmx.net > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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sorry, but this announcment is the typical british bull hipster way to blow up stuff ... Is there some kind of button to switch off - the mails coming from over there ? :D :D :D -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> dongle soundbox) for something around $500. last i heard, they were > having > trouble porting the software from BeOS to windows/mac, and that a > large > part of that price was the Be, Inc. licensing fee. > There will be rather large problems if they -don't- port to windows/mac. 1. People want to use their own laptops. 2. Be has been bought out by Palmspring who have indicated they don't plan to do anything with BeOS or any such stuff. Be were not making enough money to survive and sold out. It will be interesting to see where this goes, as whatever operating system FinalScratch runs under must have some support. -Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah, that's true, Richie also states that in the Urb feature, I believe. -- >From: "John Osselaer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] re:(313)[EMAIL PROTECTED]/technology >Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 6:51 PM > >--> In an interview with Richie in August he told me that they were going to >try to get the basic version on the market for around 500$. > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--> In an interview with Richie in August he told me that they were going to try to get the basic version on the market for around 500$. J i think i also remember seeing on their site somewhere that they hope to sell the normal final scratch (software, two records, and the little usb dongle soundbox) for something around $500. last i heard, they were having trouble porting the software from BeOS to windows/mac, and that a large part of that price was the Be, Inc. licensing fee. investigative reporting at it's finest, -j Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] (877) 748 3467 ICQ: 14295546 AIM: kw34hd1 NXTL/DC: 130*21*16749 PGP: 0xF50BB9D7 A21AFD828C30EC77545DA0B3F501F50BB9D7 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This is especiallly interesting as BE as a company does not exist anymore. Their stock and all their technology was purchased by Pilot a couple months ago for about 11 million. From: Jeffrey Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Detroits Finest List" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] re:(313)[EMAIL PROTECTED]/technology Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:39:19 -0400 At 07:53 PM 10/23/2001, M. Todd Smith wrote: Are you ready for the Final Scratch price tag of $23,000? http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,47398,00.html has the details usual fantastic reporting from wired. http://www.finalscratch.com/ normal final scratch comes with the little box and the two records and some software. proFS comes with a 700mhz p3 vaio laptop running beos (which is what final scratch runs under) and windows dualboot, finalscratch software, the finalscratch usb dongle soundbox thing, the two special records, two slipmats, a carrying case, support, cables, and costs $2,999 (including the laptop). all this information is from finalscratch.com, mind you... two clicks from the frontpage. i think i also remember seeing on their site somewhere that they hope to sell the normal final scratch (software, two records, and the little usb dongle soundbox) for something around $500. last i heard, they were having trouble porting the software from BeOS to windows/mac, and that a large part of that price was the Be, Inc. licensing fee. investigative reporting at it's finest, -j Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] (877) 748 3467 ICQ: 14295546 AIM: kw34hd1 NXTL/DC: 130*21*16749 PGP: 0xF50BB9D7 A21AFD828C30EC77545DA0B3F501F50BB9D7 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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supposedly there's gonna be a retail version that's a bit more affordable... the first few (i forget how many) are intended for superstar djs that just can't wait we'll all be able to afford it in time... Christian Bloch http://mp3.com/bloch http://www.mp313.com/christianbloch.htm Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go/Restructured - Original Message - From: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [313] re:(313)[EMAIL PROTECTED]/technology > 23,000. wow, its almost insulting isn't it? I assume that includes a top > of the line laptop as well. how interesting. Amazing how software on > computers can do more and more, and its rapidly getting cheaper, yet this > tag is just SO high. I guess they'll be selling all of TEN of these > systems. I can only see how extremely high profile djs would be able to > afford. > > > > or maybe the price is high because they're looking strictly for high profile > dj's to use it for a while, and then create huge demand, and drop the price. > Who knows. > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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go price a top end laptop loaded with ram and an big firewire disk array and you have 1/2 the cost of that system. At 21:18 23/10/2001 +, Jayson B. wrote: 23,000. wow, its almost insulting isn't it? I assume that includes a top of the line laptop as well. how interesting. Amazing how software on computers can do more and more, and its rapidly getting cheaper, yet this tag is just SO high. I guess they'll be selling all of TEN of these systems. I can only see how extremely high profile djs would be able to afford. -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I guess it doesn't need as much system speed as I would have thought! I wonder how much disk it has, though. At 17:39 23/10/2001 -0400, Jeffrey Paul wrote: normal final scratch comes with the little box and the two records and some software. proFS comes with a 700mhz p3 vaio laptop running beos (which is what final scratch runs under) and windows dualboot, finalscratch software, the finalscratch usb dongle soundbox thing, the two special records, two slipmats, a carrying case, support, cables, and costs $2,999 (including the laptop). all this information is from finalscratch.com, mind you... two clicks from the frontpage. -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 07:53 PM 10/23/2001, M. Todd Smith wrote: Are you ready for the Final Scratch price tag of $23,000? http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,47398,00.html has the details usual fantastic reporting from wired. http://www.finalscratch.com/ normal final scratch comes with the little box and the two records and some software. proFS comes with a 700mhz p3 vaio laptop running beos (which is what final scratch runs under) and windows dualboot, finalscratch software, the finalscratch usb dongle soundbox thing, the two special records, two slipmats, a carrying case, support, cables, and costs $2,999 (including the laptop). all this information is from finalscratch.com, mind you... two clicks from the frontpage. i think i also remember seeing on their site somewhere that they hope to sell the normal final scratch (software, two records, and the little usb dongle soundbox) for something around $500. last i heard, they were having trouble porting the software from BeOS to windows/mac, and that a large part of that price was the Be, Inc. licensing fee. investigative reporting at it's finest, -j Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] (877) 748 3467 ICQ: 14295546 AIM: kw34hd1 NXTL/DC: 130*21*16749 PGP: 0xF50BB9D7 A21AFD828C30EC77545DA0B3F501F50BB9D7 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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$23,000? i don't, mean to say anything against the fact checkers at wired but my girlfriend interviewed the final stratch people two weeks ago for a new york times story. i can't remeber the exact price, but the software and converter box was around $800. maybe wired accidentally added a zero. james www.jbucknell.com "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 10/23/2001 07:53:25 PM To: "Detroits Finest List" <313@hyperreal.org> cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: Re: [313] re:(313)[EMAIL PROTECTED]/technology Are you ready for the Final Scratch price tag of $23,000? http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,47398,00.html has the details I would rather take my chances cutting dubs on the Kingston Dubplate Cutter. www.mixmachines.com They will probably be shipping in 6 months or so, and they are only $5000. Better yet I'll save my money to do something fabulous. Like treat my girlfriend to a vacation, or buy a car, chances are I can always just lug my records around in that now can't I. Take your pick Cheers todd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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23,000. wow, its almost insulting isn't it? I assume that includes a top of the line laptop as well. how interesting. Amazing how software on computers can do more and more, and its rapidly getting cheaper, yet this tag is just SO high. I guess they'll be selling all of TEN of these systems. I can only see how extremely high profile djs would be able to afford. or maybe the price is high because they're looking strictly for high profile dj's to use it for a while, and then create huge demand, and drop the price. Who knows. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Are you ready for the Final Scratch price tag of $23,000? http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,47398,00.html has the details I would rather take my chances cutting dubs on the Kingston Dubplate Cutter. www.mixmachines.com They will probably be shipping in 6 months or so, and they are only $5000. Better yet I'll save my money to do something fabulous. Like treat my girlfriend to a vacation, or buy a car, chances are I can always just lug my records around in that now can't I. Take your pick Cheers todd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think that Final Scratch opens doors for people. Take for example a dj/producer who doesn't want to have to spend $50 for each dubplate, doesn't have the cash for that nifty looking new vestax vinyl cutter, and doesn't have the connections to get their work published. What if their production work -- if played live--would mostly consist of hitting play on the hard-disk recording device? I think that this technology presents opportunities for more original music to be played out. Granted, I think that artists should be reimbursed for their work (ie should get paid for their mp3s or cds or records). But for the price of the final scratch (since I have a computer, and have some recorded music) I can play my music in the context I intended it to be played--on turntables for a crowd. -geoff >Be patient >Ever heard of the step by step program ? >we move slowly >first we imitate then we innovate > >But i'm not gonne tell you here how to lay down you creativity on a tool >it ain't all 'bout what's here now ;-) > >Mad'R > > > Mr. Woolums has taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH! > > How advanced is a piece of equipment that can finally do today what >certain > > Detroit Djs could do 12 years ago? > > Where is the progress in TALENT? All this does is make it easier for djs >who > > lack the ability to do it by hand. > > Instead of raising the bar, they lowering it and trying to step over. > > > > back.Bone > > > > > > >From: Yair Etziony > > >To: "'Vince Woolums'" , "'313@hyperreal.org'" > > ><313@hyperreal.org> > > >Subject: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > > >Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:25:07 +0200 > > > > > >Regards. > > > i really enjoyed reading your stuff vince i think that u r like 90% > > >right. > > >most of the time we think that technology will make us more innovative >and > > >more creative, but alas i think technology is just making us more and >more > > >dependent on it. > > > creative is something that comes from the mind not something u can have > > >with technology, like any new gimmik the final scratch will come and go. >i > > >am not too sure that vinyls will stay for ever but i know one thing- all > > >the > > >new technology stuff for dj`s is simple uncreative. they made software >who > > >acts as turntables ,they make cd who acts like a turntable. if technology > > >were really creative they would just try to immitate but to innovate > > >something REALLY new. > > > > > >y/ > > >-Original Message- > > >From: Vince Woolums [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:54 PM > > >To: 313 List > > >Subject: re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > > > > > > > > > > i don't think you understand what final scratch is, and how de9(?) was > > >made. > > > > final scratch is a tool that allows use to use two regular turntables > > >and > > >a > > > > regular mixer to control any a digital file on a computer just like >you > > >would a > > > > slab of vinyl. you slow the turntable down and the digital file slows > > >down > > >etc. > > > > you do it live. it's not digital editing tool like pro tools or peak > > >etc. > > > > anything you do with you do live. > > > > > >i'm briefed on final scratch. i've seen acquav!va use it. in addition, > > >i'm > > >aware of the production techniques involved in the creation of both de9 >and > > >closer to the edit. i'm also aware of the physics behind the technology. > > >i've watched these develpments rather closely. > > > > > >you're missing one of my points: that many other DJs dont need it, dont > > >prefer it, and whose performance would be limited by said technology. > > > > > > > as for the detrimental trade on vinyl. well, it's heavy, wears out, >and > > >is > > >hard > > > > to distribute. digital files can be endlessly copied and emailed all > > >over > > >the > > > > place, placed on sites. it allows more people to have access to more > > >music. what > > > > you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and > > > > inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to. &g
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>That track "Cotton Eyed Joe" did it first. I did sample Sandy Bull >performing his arrangement of Carmina Burana, if that makes it any more >acceptable ... it wasn`t Cotton eyed joe, i beleive it was RMB with "banjo love" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Kent williams wrote on Mon, 22 Oct 2001 about following: > On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Scotto wrote: > > > > From: "Berislav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > but please "guitar", drums, what is next...banjo. > > > > > sorry already been done kent williams samples a banjo in one of his tunes. > > > > That track "Cotton Eyed Joe" did it first. i have one house 12" from time before "cotton eyed joe" with banjo - it's on loaded label but i can't recall the name of the track or ep. i can check it out when i get home if someone's interested. (which i doubt :) > I did sample Sandy Bull > performing his arrangement of Carmina Burana, if that makes it any more > acceptable ... there's one quite cheesy rave track made from carmina burana from around 1991 or so if my memory serves right - it was quite horrible. anyway, its just music, let people sample what they want. and look at the house scene, there's live drummers, guitarists, bassists and so on. how is this relevant to hawtin anymore? on the hawtin subject, i thought the new album is pretty cool. i don't mind it being done the way it's done, megamixes still aren't a new form of art, as i've said earlier on this same subject. let's keep the funk alive, sakke -- "The number of Unix installations has grown to 10, with more expected." --The Unix Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June, 1972 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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bad banjo use??? maybe some people should try other instruments...how about a hard acid track with an accordian making the bass line. that would be tight. maybe a washboard for percussionary enhancement (is that a real phrase???) oh, and a picalo to use during the break down... damn, i am going to be rich AND famous with these ideas jeff > -Original Message- > From: M. Todd Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 4:14 PM > To: Detroits Finest List > Subject: Re: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > > > > Anyone remember The Grid? What about 'Cotton Eyed Joe'? The Shaman? All > classic and bad examples of banjo use in electronic music. I want to hear > Kent's tune though. > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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is he talking about NSC?? i sure thought so. only in detroit will you find all of those things put on one record, and then there is still music to listen to after all the fun carnie tricks!! HOORAY FOR NSC!!! cheers jeff > -Original Message- > From: M Elliot-Knight [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:47 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > > >You sure as hell can't hang a mp3 file on the wall. > Or make it blue, red, or green - nor can you make it play it from the > inside > to the outer rim; have two tracks pressed side-by-side; etch funny, odd > words or messages to the majors into them; press them with pictures on the > > surface... need I go on? > > MEK > > > >From: Glyph1001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > >Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:14:10 -0400 > > > >The only gripe I have with this new techology is how it may deter some > >people from their duty of actually making a record. > >Producing and having a vinyl copy of one's music, released, is like the > >initiation process for a fraternity. To me, the mark of a real and > >serious musician is to produce a vinyl copy of one's music. This mp3 > >internet stuff doesn't count in relation to this reponsiblity, IMHO. > >You sure as hell can't hang a mp3 file on the wall. > > > >My spare penny, > > > >G > > > > > > > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Scotto wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Berislav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > but please "guitar", drums, what is next...banjo. > > > sorry already been done kent williams samples a banjo in one of his tunes. > That track "Cotton Eyed Joe" did it first. I did sample Sandy Bull performing his arrangement of Carmina Burana, if that makes it any more acceptable ... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> but please "guitar", drums, what is next...banjo. > > > sorry already been done kent williams samples a banjo in one of his tunes. Anyone remember The Grid? What about 'Cotton Eyed Joe'? The Shaman? All classic and bad examples of banjo use in electronic music. I want to hear Kent's tune though. Cheers todd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message - From: "Berislav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > but please "guitar", drums, what is next...banjo. > sorry already been done kent williams samples a banjo in one of his tunes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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haha. the dual identity of this thread is now OVER ! -Original Message- From: Fixer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 2:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere is it just me, or does it seem everyone who responded to Chris missed the seemingly obvious sarcasm in his post? > > I totally agree! computers are totally ruinging electronic music! I mean, > > where's the TALENT in pushing some buttons, or twisting a knob? whatever > > happened to what a few guys, ONLY IN DETROIT, did 12 years ago, like PLAY > > THE DRUMS, or LEARN THE GUITAR? -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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is it just me, or does it seem everyone who responded to Chris missed the seemingly obvious sarcasm in his post? > I totally agree! computers are totally ruinging electronic music! I mean, > where's the TALENT in pushing some buttons, or twisting a knob? whatever > happened to what a few guys, ONLY IN DETROIT, did 12 years ago, like PLAY > THE DRUMS, or LEARN THE GUITAR? -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It's not just you. The excessive use of caps was a hint, but signing off as Mills gave it away. Kevin --- Fixer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is it just me, or does it seem everyone who > responded to Chris > missed the seemingly obvious sarcasm in his post? > > > > > > I totally agree! computers are totally ruinging > electronic music! I mean, > > > where's the TALENT in pushing some buttons, or > twisting a knob? whatever > > > happened to what a few guys, ONLY IN DETROIT, > did 12 years ago, like PLAY > > > THE DRUMS, or LEARN THE GUITAR? > > > -- > fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that > intervenes to > enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain > a political > favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by > negotiation > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I totally agree! computers are totally ruinging electronic music! I mean, > where's the TALENT in pushing some buttons, or twisting a knob? whatever > happened to what a few guys, ONLY IN DETROIT, did 12 years ago, like PLAY > THE DRUMS, or LEARN THE GUITAR? the funny thing about this statement is that most of the innovators from this time period in Detroit and Chicago that still have any musical standing today were playing traditional instruments before they started making dance music. It is funny that no matter how much technology we get, you still cannot get around the fact that you have to write good music. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am not from detroit and I am a techno dj, also a producer. btw, a drum machine or a synth IS a computer, in case you didn't know > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Subject Detroit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 8:37 AM > Subject: RE: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > > > > > > > Mr. Woolums has taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH! > > > How advanced is a piece of equipment that can finally do today what > certain > > > Detroit Djs could do 12 years ago? > > > Where is the progress in TALENT? All this does is make it easier for djs > who > > > lack the ability to do it by hand. > > > Instead of raising the bar, they lowering it and trying to step over. > > word! > > > > I totally agree! computers are totally ruinging electronic music! I mean, > > where's the TALENT in pushing some buttons, or twisting a knob? whatever > > happened to what a few guys, ONLY IN DETROIT, did 12 years ago, like PLAY > > THE DRUMS, or LEARN THE GUITAR? > > > > That's what techno music is about, RAW SKILL. anything that makes it > > easier for someone to express tehmselves creatively, like say a computer, > > is a CRUTCH. it's BULLSHIT. it should be MOCKED. > > > > How can some foolish upstart who's not even from detroit, some moron > > canadian, possibly think he can start calling himself a so-called "tecno > > dj" when he uses a COMPUTER? I for one, am shocked an appalled! > > > > who's up for a turntable jam session! come to my house in belleville, only > > in detroit! > > > > back and proud, > > jeff mills > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Geez wake up people it is is still the man who programs the machine! It's not the machine who makes the music!!! I am not even trying to take this response seriously, what a limited vision... KJ > I totally agree! computers are totally ruinging electronic > music! I mean, > where's the TALENT in pushing some buttons, or twisting a > knob? whatever > happened to what a few guys, ONLY IN DETROIT, did 12 years > ago, like PLAY > THE DRUMS, or LEARN THE GUITAR? > > That's what techno music is about, RAW SKILL. anything that makes it > easier for someone to express tehmselves creatively, like say > a computer, > is a CRUTCH. it's BULLSHIT. it should be MOCKED. > > How can some foolish upstart who's not even from detroit, some moron > canadian, possibly think he can start calling himself a > so-called "tecno > dj" when he uses a COMPUTER? I for one, am shocked an appalled! > > who's up for a turntable jam session! come to my house in > belleville, only > in detroit! > > back and proud, > jeff mills > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I totally agree! computers are totally ruinging electronic music! I mean, where's the TALENT in pushing some buttons, or twisting a knob? whatever happened to what a few guys, ONLY IN DETROIT, did 12 years ago, like PLAY THE DRUMS, or LEARN THE GUITAR? im sorry to tell you but electronic music is about that everything is controled or made by some kind of computer, synthsizer or sampler. im not on hawtin side about mixing 1450 tracks in 60 minutes with computer, but please "guitar", drums, what is next...banjo. How can some foolish upstart who's not even from detroit, some moron canadian, possibly think he can start calling himself a so-called "tecno dj" when he uses a COMPUTER? I for one, am shocked an appalled! am i hearing this right or you just said that anybody who is not from detriot cant be a dj, techno dj. i always tought that techno is about pushing the limits, making something new, be the first in upgrading the music. in mixing im on your side, turntables is my first choice, but choose your words. b. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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IMO- music is all about getting the ideas in your head to a medium from which other people can enjoy it. computers and musical instruments, electronic or acoustic, facilitate this process. -Joe negative-saucer -- R17 is not a fixed velocity, but it is clearly far too fast. -- - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Subject Detroit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 2:37 AM Subject: RE: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > > > Mr. Woolums has taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH! > > How advanced is a piece of equipment that can finally do today what certain > > Detroit Djs could do 12 years ago? > > Where is the progress in TALENT? All this does is make it easier for djs who > > lack the ability to do it by hand. > > Instead of raising the bar, they lowering it and trying to step over. > word! > > I totally agree! computers are totally ruinging electronic music! I mean, > where's the TALENT in pushing some buttons, or twisting a knob? whatever > happened to what a few guys, ONLY IN DETROIT, did 12 years ago, like PLAY > THE DRUMS, or LEARN THE GUITAR? > > That's what techno music is about, RAW SKILL. anything that makes it > easier for someone to express tehmselves creatively, like say a computer, > is a CRUTCH. it's BULLSHIT. it should be MOCKED. > > How can some foolish upstart who's not even from detroit, some moron > canadian, possibly think he can start calling himself a so-called "tecno > dj" when he uses a COMPUTER? I for one, am shocked an appalled! > > who's up for a turntable jam session! come to my house in belleville, only > in detroit! > > back and proud, > jeff mills > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Mr. Woolums has taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH! > How advanced is a piece of equipment that can finally do today what certain > Detroit Djs could do 12 years ago? > Where is the progress in TALENT? All this does is make it easier for djs who > lack the ability to do it by hand. > Instead of raising the bar, they lowering it and trying to step over. word! I totally agree! computers are totally ruinging electronic music! I mean, where's the TALENT in pushing some buttons, or twisting a knob? whatever happened to what a few guys, ONLY IN DETROIT, did 12 years ago, like PLAY THE DRUMS, or LEARN THE GUITAR? That's what techno music is about, RAW SKILL. anything that makes it easier for someone to express tehmselves creatively, like say a computer, is a CRUTCH. it's BULLSHIT. it should be MOCKED. How can some foolish upstart who's not even from detroit, some moron canadian, possibly think he can start calling himself a so-called "tecno dj" when he uses a COMPUTER? I for one, am shocked an appalled! who's up for a turntable jam session! come to my house in belleville, only in detroit! back and proud, jeff mills - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry, that's the same critic techno ( or New Beat here in Belgium ) received in the beginning from classical (rock) musicians : "with those machines it's easy to make music". 303 vs. drumset, remember ? You are talking about an instrument. Some will play with it, but few will squeeze original content out of it. It's a good thing that maybe more people will be attracted to Djing by this device. More people : more possible talent. It's not the machine that will be creative for you. I don't care if a mix is made with PCDJ or SL1200's, as long as it's a good, surprising, original set that gets my body shaking. :-G http://www.appletree.be | -Original Message- | From: ryan burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: zondag 21 oktober 2001 19:39 | To: 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: RE: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere | | | | i would have to agree, it cheating. | | burns | | | >From: "Subject Detroit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | >Mr. Woolums has taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH! | >How advanced is a piece of equipment that can finally do today what | >certain Detroit Djs could do 12 years ago? Where is the progress in | >TALENT? All this does is make it easier for djs who | >lack the ability to do it by hand. | >Instead of raising the bar, they lowering it and trying to step over. | > | >back.Bone | > | > | >>From: Yair Etziony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | >>To: "'Vince Woolums'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'313@hyperreal.org'" | >><313@hyperreal.org> | >>Subject: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere | >>Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:25:07 +0200 | >> | >>Regards. | >> i really enjoyed reading your stuff vince i think that u | r like 90% | >>right. most of the time we think that technology will make us more | >>innovative and more creative, but alas i think technology is just | >>making us more and more dependent on it. | >> creative is something that comes from the mind not | something u can have | >>with technology, like any new gimmik the final scratch will | come and go. i | >>am not too sure that vinyls will stay for ever but i know | one thing- all | >>the | >>new technology stuff for dj`s is simple uncreative. they | made software who | >>acts as turntables ,they make cd who acts like a turntable. | if technology | >>were really creative they would just try to immitate but to innovate | >>something REALLY new. | >> | >>y/ | >>-Original Message- | >>From: Vince Woolums [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | >>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:54 PM | >>To: 313 List | >>Subject: re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere | >> | >> | >> > i don't think you understand what final scratch is, and | how de9(?) | >> > was | >>made. | >> > final scratch is a tool that allows use to use two regular | >> > turntables | >>and | >>a | >> > regular mixer to control any a digital file on a | computer just like | >> > you | >>would a | >> > slab of vinyl. you slow the turntable down and the digital file | >> > slows | >>down | >>etc. | >> > you do it live. it's not digital editing tool like pro tools or | >> > peak | >>etc. | >> > anything you do with you do live. | >> | >>i'm briefed on final scratch. i've seen acquav!va use it. in | >>addition, i'm aware of the production techniques involved in the | >>creation of both de9 and | >>closer to the edit. i'm also aware of the physics behind | the technology. | >>i've watched these develpments rather closely. | >> | >>you're missing one of my points: that many other DJs dont need it, | >>dont prefer it, and whose performance would be limited by said | >>technology. | >> | >> > as for the detrimental trade on vinyl. well, it's heavy, | wears out, | >> > and | >>is | >>hard | >> > to distribute. digital files can be endlessly copied and emailed | >> > all | >>over | >>the | >> > place, placed on sites. it allows more people to have access to | >> > more | >>music. what | >> > you do on the turntables should be determined by your | skill level | >> > and inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or | have access | >> > to. instead of letting record companies, distributors, | and record | >> > stores | >>determine | >> > what tracks you have access to you can play tr
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i would have to agree, it cheating. burns From: "Subject Detroit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mr. Woolums has taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH! How advanced is a piece of equipment that can finally do today what certain Detroit Djs could do 12 years ago? Where is the progress in TALENT? All this does is make it easier for djs who lack the ability to do it by hand. Instead of raising the bar, they lowering it and trying to step over. back.Bone From: Yair Etziony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Vince Woolums'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:25:07 +0200 Regards. i really enjoyed reading your stuff vince i think that u r like 90% right. most of the time we think that technology will make us more innovative and more creative, but alas i think technology is just making us more and more dependent on it. creative is something that comes from the mind not something u can have with technology, like any new gimmik the final scratch will come and go. i am not too sure that vinyls will stay for ever but i know one thing- all the new technology stuff for dj`s is simple uncreative. they made software who acts as turntables ,they make cd who acts like a turntable. if technology were really creative they would just try to immitate but to innovate something REALLY new. y/ -Original Message- From: Vince Woolums [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:54 PM To: 313 List Subject: re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > i don't think you understand what final scratch is, and how de9(?) was made. > final scratch is a tool that allows use to use two regular turntables and a > regular mixer to control any a digital file on a computer just like you would a > slab of vinyl. you slow the turntable down and the digital file slows down etc. > you do it live. it's not digital editing tool like pro tools or peak etc. > anything you do with you do live. i'm briefed on final scratch. i've seen acquav!va use it. in addition, i'm aware of the production techniques involved in the creation of both de9 and closer to the edit. i'm also aware of the physics behind the technology. i've watched these develpments rather closely. you're missing one of my points: that many other DJs dont need it, dont prefer it, and whose performance would be limited by said technology. > as for the detrimental trade on vinyl. well, it's heavy, wears out, and is hard > to distribute. digital files can be endlessly copied and emailed all over the > place, placed on sites. it allows more people to have access to more music. what > you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and > inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to. > instead of letting record companies, distributors, and record stores determine > what tracks you have access to you can play tracks by anybody that cares to post > them. your words are very interesting. so what if vinyl is heavy, wears out and is hard to distribute? all of those things are unique to the DJ trade and the art form. thomas brinkmann is able to utilize a unique technological tool, one final scratch can't even approach and that relies on vinyl and not mp3. that not just anyone can have any track is central to my argument. dont think i'm preaching vinyl elitism - but if everyone had access to any and every track, would they create something unique, special, or anything but homogenized? here's an analogy - if everyone had the exact same make, model and color Porsche, would it still be special?? more people with more access is giddy hat-tip to liberalist egalitarianism. part of the fun of DJing, to me, is digging through crates in used shops, looking on the internet for out of print tracks, trading them with my friends, cleaning them up once in a while and chatting with people all over the world when buying or selling vinyl. "what you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to" contradiction! first you say that everyone will have access to more music, then you assert that 'inventiveness' will occur? my retail experience shows me first that as soon as a new mix CD comes out kids are lining up to buy the tracks on that mix. and often they don't just want the tracks - they want to play them in the SAME order. second, since anyone can own and play anything, what will stop the 'top' DJs from playing all the songs a crowd wants to hear? easy access is exactly why mp3 DJs devalue our beloved music! also, your statement seems focused solely on 'smooth mix' djs like hawti
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finalscratch : Be patient Ever heard of the step by step program ? we move slowly first we imitate then we innovate But i'm not gonne tell you here how to lay down you creativity on a tool it ain't all 'bout what's here now ;-) Mad'R - Original Message - From: "Subject Detroit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 2:35 PM Subject: RE: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > Mr. Woolums has taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH! > How advanced is a piece of equipment that can finally do today what certain > Detroit Djs could do 12 years ago? > Where is the progress in TALENT? All this does is make it easier for djs who > lack the ability to do it by hand. > Instead of raising the bar, they lowering it and trying to step over. > > back.Bone > > > >From: Yair Etziony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'Vince Woolums'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'313@hyperreal.org'" > ><313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > >Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:25:07 +0200 > > > >Regards. > > i really enjoyed reading your stuff vince i think that u r like 90% > >right. > >most of the time we think that technology will make us more innovative and > >more creative, but alas i think technology is just making us more and more > >dependent on it. > > creative is something that comes from the mind not something u can have > >with technology, like any new gimmik the final scratch will come and go. i > >am not too sure that vinyls will stay for ever but i know one thing- all > >the > >new technology stuff for dj`s is simple uncreative. they made software who > >acts as turntables ,they make cd who acts like a turntable. if technology > >were really creative they would just try to immitate but to innovate > >something REALLY new. > > > >y/ > >-Original Message- > >From: Vince Woolums [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:54 PM > >To: 313 List > >Subject: re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > > > > > > > i don't think you understand what final scratch is, and how de9(?) was > >made. > > > final scratch is a tool that allows use to use two regular turntables > >and > >a > > > regular mixer to control any a digital file on a computer just like you > >would a > > > slab of vinyl. you slow the turntable down and the digital file slows > >down > >etc. > > > you do it live. it's not digital editing tool like pro tools or peak > >etc. > > > anything you do with you do live. > > > >i'm briefed on final scratch. i've seen acquav!va use it. in addition, > >i'm > >aware of the production techniques involved in the creation of both de9 and > >closer to the edit. i'm also aware of the physics behind the technology. > >i've watched these develpments rather closely. > > > >you're missing one of my points: that many other DJs dont need it, dont > >prefer it, and whose performance would be limited by said technology. > > > > > as for the detrimental trade on vinyl. well, it's heavy, wears out, and > >is > >hard > > > to distribute. digital files can be endlessly copied and emailed all > >over > >the > > > place, placed on sites. it allows more people to have access to more > >music. what > > > you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and > > > inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to. > > > instead of letting record companies, distributors, and record stores > >determine > > > what tracks you have access to you can play tracks by anybody that cares > >to post > > > them. > > > >your words are very interesting. so what if vinyl is heavy, wears out and > >is hard to distribute? all of those things are unique to the DJ trade and > >the art form. thomas brinkmann is able to utilize a unique technological > >tool, one final scratch can't even approach and that relies on vinyl and > >not > >mp3. > > > >that not just anyone can have any track is central to my argument. dont > >think i'm preaching vinyl elitism - but if everyone had access to any and > >every track, would they create something unique, special, or anything but > >homogenized? here's an analogy - if everyone had the exact same make, > >model > >and color Porsche, would
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like how the drum machine made the sounds of early tribal percussionists, only poorly? where does it say all music must come on vinyl? It's a dying medium, with less and less raw resources to maintain it's production. There are advantages and disadvantages to any technology. I notice few of you are still getting around town in a horse and buggy... btw, hi Bone, how's it going? It's been a long time! At 08:35 21/10/2001 -0400, Subject Detroit wrote: Mr. Woolums has taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH! How advanced is a piece of equipment that can finally do today what certain Detroit Djs could do 12 years ago? Where is the progress in TALENT? All this does is make it easier for djs who lack the ability to do it by hand. Instead of raising the bar, they lowering it and trying to step over. back.Bone -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mr. Woolums has taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH! How advanced is a piece of equipment that can finally do today what certain Detroit Djs could do 12 years ago? Where is the progress in TALENT? All this does is make it easier for djs who lack the ability to do it by hand. Instead of raising the bar, they lowering it and trying to step over. back.Bone From: Yair Etziony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Vince Woolums'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:25:07 +0200 Regards. i really enjoyed reading your stuff vince i think that u r like 90% right. most of the time we think that technology will make us more innovative and more creative, but alas i think technology is just making us more and more dependent on it. creative is something that comes from the mind not something u can have with technology, like any new gimmik the final scratch will come and go. i am not too sure that vinyls will stay for ever but i know one thing- all the new technology stuff for dj`s is simple uncreative. they made software who acts as turntables ,they make cd who acts like a turntable. if technology were really creative they would just try to immitate but to innovate something REALLY new. y/ -Original Message- From: Vince Woolums [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:54 PM To: 313 List Subject: re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > i don't think you understand what final scratch is, and how de9(?) was made. > final scratch is a tool that allows use to use two regular turntables and a > regular mixer to control any a digital file on a computer just like you would a > slab of vinyl. you slow the turntable down and the digital file slows down etc. > you do it live. it's not digital editing tool like pro tools or peak etc. > anything you do with you do live. i'm briefed on final scratch. i've seen acquav!va use it. in addition, i'm aware of the production techniques involved in the creation of both de9 and closer to the edit. i'm also aware of the physics behind the technology. i've watched these develpments rather closely. you're missing one of my points: that many other DJs dont need it, dont prefer it, and whose performance would be limited by said technology. > as for the detrimental trade on vinyl. well, it's heavy, wears out, and is hard > to distribute. digital files can be endlessly copied and emailed all over the > place, placed on sites. it allows more people to have access to more music. what > you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and > inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to. > instead of letting record companies, distributors, and record stores determine > what tracks you have access to you can play tracks by anybody that cares to post > them. your words are very interesting. so what if vinyl is heavy, wears out and is hard to distribute? all of those things are unique to the DJ trade and the art form. thomas brinkmann is able to utilize a unique technological tool, one final scratch can't even approach and that relies on vinyl and not mp3. that not just anyone can have any track is central to my argument. dont think i'm preaching vinyl elitism - but if everyone had access to any and every track, would they create something unique, special, or anything but homogenized? here's an analogy - if everyone had the exact same make, model and color Porsche, would it still be special?? more people with more access is giddy hat-tip to liberalist egalitarianism. part of the fun of DJing, to me, is digging through crates in used shops, looking on the internet for out of print tracks, trading them with my friends, cleaning them up once in a while and chatting with people all over the world when buying or selling vinyl. "what you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to" contradiction! first you say that everyone will have access to more music, then you assert that 'inventiveness' will occur? my retail experience shows me first that as soon as a new mix CD comes out kids are lining up to buy the tracks on that mix. and often they don't just want the tracks - they want to play them in the SAME order. second, since anyone can own and play anything, what will stop the 'top' DJs from playing all the songs a crowd wants to hear? easy access is exactly why mp3 DJs devalue our beloved music! also, your statement seems focused solely on 'smooth mix' djs like hawtin, and i daresay, many of the big room trance djs. what about those who dont blend for hours? are you
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another issue the whole mp3 things raises is that it does not provide any sont of revenue stream for the artists themselves. I certainly don't think music should be made with money in mind, but it sure would be nice to buy a finalizer with royalty money. mt - Original Message - From: "Glyph1001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > The only gripe I have with this new techology is how it may deter some > people from their duty of actually making a record. > Producing and having a vinyl copy of one's music, released, is like the > initiation process for a fraternity. To me, the mark of a real and > serious musician is to produce a vinyl copy of one's music. This mp3 > internet stuff doesn't count in relation to this reponsiblity, IMHO. > You sure as hell can't hang a mp3 file on the wall. > > My spare penny, > > G > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 16:46 19/10/2001 +, M Elliot-Knight wrote: You sure as hell can't hang a mp3 file on the wall. Or make it blue, red, or green - nor can you make it play it from the inside to the outer rim; have two tracks pressed side-by-side; etch funny, odd words or messages to the majors into them; press them with pictures on the surface... need I go on? yeah, music didn't exist before vinyl records. -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You sure as hell can't hang a mp3 file on the wall. Or make it blue, red, or green - nor can you make it play it from the inside to the outer rim; have two tracks pressed side-by-side; etch funny, odd words or messages to the majors into them; press them with pictures on the surface... need I go on? MEK From: Glyph1001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:14:10 -0400 The only gripe I have with this new techology is how it may deter some people from their duty of actually making a record. Producing and having a vinyl copy of one's music, released, is like the initiation process for a fraternity. To me, the mark of a real and serious musician is to produce a vinyl copy of one's music. This mp3 internet stuff doesn't count in relation to this reponsiblity, IMHO. You sure as hell can't hang a mp3 file on the wall. My spare penny, G - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The only gripe I have with this new techology is how it may deter some people from their duty of actually making a record. Producing and having a vinyl copy of one's music, released, is like the initiation process for a fraternity. To me, the mark of a real and serious musician is to produce a vinyl copy of one's music. This mp3 internet stuff doesn't count in relation to this reponsiblity, IMHO. You sure as hell can't hang a mp3 file on the wall. My spare penny, G - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm with the musical "luddites" Vince and Yair. Technology is not necessarily all for the good. Making very tenuous analogies with the advent of house and techno is incorrect. It's like saying: You've become accustomed to a high standard of healthcare now and you like it, so who's afraid of a little genetic engineering? Only time will decide who's right in this argument. -- Warning : The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and then delete it from your computer. All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Providian Financial corporate e-mail system and is subject to archiving and review by someone other than the recipient. == - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ha, this is so funy! You guys sound exactly like all the people who didn't use electronics back (and didn't like it at all) in the day when house and techno came around. They used some of the same arguments for years: This electronic house thing is just a hype and will go away. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yair Etziony wrote: > Regards. > i really enjoyed reading your stuff vince i think that u r > like 90% right. > most of the time we think that technology will make us more > innovative and > more creative, but alas i think technology is just making us > more and more > dependent on it. > creative is something that comes from the mind not something > u can have > with technology, like any new gimmik the final scratch will > come and go. i > am not too sure that vinyls will stay for ever but i know one > thing- all the > new technology stuff for dj`s is simple uncreative. they made > software who > acts as turntables ,they make cd who acts like a turntable. > if technology > were really creative they would just try to immitate but to innovate > something REALLY new. -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> homogenized? here's an analogy - if everyone had the exact same > make, model > and color Porsche, would it still be special?? > Uh-oh... is Dale still on this list? :) "... in my Porsche Nine-two-eight" -Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Regards. i really enjoyed reading your stuff vince i think that u r like 90% right. most of the time we think that technology will make us more innovative and more creative, but alas i think technology is just making us more and more dependent on it. creative is something that comes from the mind not something u can have with technology, like any new gimmik the final scratch will come and go. i am not too sure that vinyls will stay for ever but i know one thing- all the new technology stuff for dj`s is simple uncreative. they made software who acts as turntables ,they make cd who acts like a turntable. if technology were really creative they would just try to immitate but to innovate something REALLY new. y/ -Original Message- From: Vince Woolums [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:54 PM To: 313 List Subject: re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > i don't think you understand what final scratch is, and how de9(?) was made. > final scratch is a tool that allows use to use two regular turntables and a > regular mixer to control any a digital file on a computer just like you would a > slab of vinyl. you slow the turntable down and the digital file slows down etc. > you do it live. it's not digital editing tool like pro tools or peak etc. > anything you do with you do live. i'm briefed on final scratch. i've seen acquav!va use it. in addition, i'm aware of the production techniques involved in the creation of both de9 and closer to the edit. i'm also aware of the physics behind the technology. i've watched these develpments rather closely. you're missing one of my points: that many other DJs dont need it, dont prefer it, and whose performance would be limited by said technology. > as for the detrimental trade on vinyl. well, it's heavy, wears out, and is hard > to distribute. digital files can be endlessly copied and emailed all over the > place, placed on sites. it allows more people to have access to more music. what > you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and > inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to. > instead of letting record companies, distributors, and record stores determine > what tracks you have access to you can play tracks by anybody that cares to post > them. your words are very interesting. so what if vinyl is heavy, wears out and is hard to distribute? all of those things are unique to the DJ trade and the art form. thomas brinkmann is able to utilize a unique technological tool, one final scratch can't even approach and that relies on vinyl and not mp3. that not just anyone can have any track is central to my argument. dont think i'm preaching vinyl elitism - but if everyone had access to any and every track, would they create something unique, special, or anything but homogenized? here's an analogy - if everyone had the exact same make, model and color Porsche, would it still be special?? more people with more access is giddy hat-tip to liberalist egalitarianism. part of the fun of DJing, to me, is digging through crates in used shops, looking on the internet for out of print tracks, trading them with my friends, cleaning them up once in a while and chatting with people all over the world when buying or selling vinyl. "what you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to" contradiction! first you say that everyone will have access to more music, then you assert that 'inventiveness' will occur? my retail experience shows me first that as soon as a new mix CD comes out kids are lining up to buy the tracks on that mix. and often they don't just want the tracks - they want to play them in the SAME order. second, since anyone can own and play anything, what will stop the 'top' DJs from playing all the songs a crowd wants to hear? easy access is exactly why mp3 DJs devalue our beloved music! also, your statement seems focused solely on 'smooth mix' djs like hawtin, and i daresay, many of the big room trance djs. what about those who dont blend for hours? are you asserting that that m!lls is not inventive? rob swift? cut chemist & dj shadow? et al? i agree that people with too much money own a lot of good tracks. but making tracks FREE to people will make that problem much, much worse. while i support unknown artists sharing their work, universally accepting this style of DJing will most certainly mire music production and DJing in a rut of banality. it's clear that you're behind this technology as some sort of 'bar-raising' effort that would urge DJs to be more creative. in fact, like so much globalization and imagineering, it's only going to homogenize an already dilute musical form. i ca
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> i don't think you understand what final scratch is, and how de9(?) was made. > final scratch is a tool that allows use to use two regular turntables and a > regular mixer to control any a digital file on a computer just like you would a > slab of vinyl. you slow the turntable down and the digital file slows down etc. > you do it live. it's not digital editing tool like pro tools or peak etc. > anything you do with you do live. i'm briefed on final scratch. i've seen acquav!va use it. in addition, i'm aware of the production techniques involved in the creation of both de9 and closer to the edit. i'm also aware of the physics behind the technology. i've watched these develpments rather closely. you're missing one of my points: that many other DJs dont need it, dont prefer it, and whose performance would be limited by said technology. > as for the detrimental trade on vinyl. well, it's heavy, wears out, and is hard > to distribute. digital files can be endlessly copied and emailed all over the > place, placed on sites. it allows more people to have access to more music. what > you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and > inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to. > instead of letting record companies, distributors, and record stores determine > what tracks you have access to you can play tracks by anybody that cares to post > them. your words are very interesting. so what if vinyl is heavy, wears out and is hard to distribute? all of those things are unique to the DJ trade and the art form. thomas brinkmann is able to utilize a unique technological tool, one final scratch can't even approach and that relies on vinyl and not mp3. that not just anyone can have any track is central to my argument. dont think i'm preaching vinyl elitism - but if everyone had access to any and every track, would they create something unique, special, or anything but homogenized? here's an analogy - if everyone had the exact same make, model and color Porsche, would it still be special?? more people with more access is giddy hat-tip to liberalist egalitarianism. part of the fun of DJing, to me, is digging through crates in used shops, looking on the internet for out of print tracks, trading them with my friends, cleaning them up once in a while and chatting with people all over the world when buying or selling vinyl. "what you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to" contradiction! first you say that everyone will have access to more music, then you assert that 'inventiveness' will occur? my retail experience shows me first that as soon as a new mix CD comes out kids are lining up to buy the tracks on that mix. and often they don't just want the tracks - they want to play them in the SAME order. second, since anyone can own and play anything, what will stop the 'top' DJs from playing all the songs a crowd wants to hear? easy access is exactly why mp3 DJs devalue our beloved music! also, your statement seems focused solely on 'smooth mix' djs like hawtin, and i daresay, many of the big room trance djs. what about those who dont blend for hours? are you asserting that that m!lls is not inventive? rob swift? cut chemist & dj shadow? et al? i agree that people with too much money own a lot of good tracks. but making tracks FREE to people will make that problem much, much worse. while i support unknown artists sharing their work, universally accepting this style of DJing will most certainly mire music production and DJing in a rut of banality. it's clear that you're behind this technology as some sort of 'bar-raising' effort that would urge DJs to be more creative. in fact, like so much globalization and imagineering, it's only going to homogenize an already dilute musical form. i can live with being a vinyl junkie but i'll never be an mp3 junkie. in the spirit of healthy debate, vince > Subject: Re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere > > Personally, I just can't get into Final Scratch and digital editing. There > are hundreds DJs out there who are equipped with the physical hardware to > (nearly) do this kind of audio montage live. They're called turntablists. > And in techno, a few names shouldn't be too far out of mind - Mills, Young, > Parker, Bone to name a few key Detroiters. > > Not to mention the detrimental effect use of digital files may have on the > trade of vinyl discs... > > Vince Woolums > AOL IM: vincewoolums > http://bnsrecords.gemm.com > http://www.recordcollectorinc.com > > - Original Message - > From: Glyph1001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.
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Just for the sake of playing the devil's advocate: what you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to. instead of letting record companies, distributors, and record stores determine what tracks you have access to you can play tracks by anybody that cares to post them. You're point against record companies, distributors, etc. overlooks somethings. For example: if you don't have access to a computer that you can easily download mp3 files from, have a portable computer, and/or can't afford the FinalScratch hardware. Vinyl, 2 and a mixer (there are cheap ones) are still more affordable and accessable to people than digitally based mixing systems. Other than that I agree with you 100%. MEK From: "James Bucknell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vince Woolums" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:05:29 -0400 i don't think you understand what final stratch is, and how de9(?) was made. as far as i know, de9 wasn't made using final stratch. it was made in the studio, with samplers and sequences--it's essentially a 60 minute track remixed by richie hawtin. it's not a dj mix cd. final stratch is a tool that allows use to use two regular turntables and a regular mixer to control any a digital file on a computer just like you would a slab of vinyl. you slow the turntable down and the digital file slows down etc. you do it live. it's not digital editing tool like pro tools or peak etc. anything you do with you do live. as for the detrimental trade on vinyl. well, it's heavy, wears out, and is hard to distribute. digital files can be endlessly copied and emailed all over the place, placed on sites. it allows more people to have access to more music. what you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to. instead of letting record companies, distributors, and record stores determine what tracks you have access to you can play tracks by anybody that cares to post them. james www.jbucknell.com "Vince Woolums" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 10/17/2001 10:28:34 AM To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: Re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere Personally, I just can't get into Final Scratch and digital editing. There are hundreds DJs out there who are equipped with the physical hardware to (nearly) do this kind of audio montage live. They're called turntablists. And in techno, a few names shouldn't be too far out of mind - Mills, Young, Parker, Bone to name a few key Detroiters. Not to mention the detrimental effect use of digital files may have on the trade of vinyl discs... Vince Woolums AOL IM: vincewoolums http://bnsrecords.gemm.com http://www.recordcollectorinc.com - Original Message - From: Glyph1001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [313] hawtin hawtin everywhere > Mixed reviews is the consensus. I personally thought musically, the cd > was pretty cool and funky. I've said before that it sounded Studio > One-ish. This series is all about the gear and techniques that goes into > the production of these mixes, not necessarily the music itself, > although some people expected way too much from R1chie musically, hence > the mixed reviews. > > g. > > Rusty Blasco wrote: > > > So what's the consensus floating around thus far concerning the new > > R!chie H!wtin joint? I personally haven't heard it yet and am waiting > > for my first paycheck in months (fingers crossed it doesn't get held > > up somewhere in the bureaucratic process); a positive public opinion > > will increase the excitement I have towards my not-too-distant > > purchase. Has he mellowed out or become any housier (as a colleague > > informed me)? Please respond to me personally. > > > > Rusty > > > > _ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL P
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i don't think you understand what final stratch is, and how de9(?) was made. as far as i know, de9 wasn't made using final stratch. it was made in the studio, with samplers and sequences--it's essentially a 60 minute track remixed by richie hawtin. it's not a dj mix cd. final stratch is a tool that allows use to use two regular turntables and a regular mixer to control any a digital file on a computer just like you would a slab of vinyl. you slow the turntable down and the digital file slows down etc. you do it live. it's not digital editing tool like pro tools or peak etc. anything you do with you do live. as for the detrimental trade on vinyl. well, it's heavy, wears out, and is hard to distribute. digital files can be endlessly copied and emailed all over the place, placed on sites. it allows more people to have access to more music. what you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to. instead of letting record companies, distributors, and record stores determine what tracks you have access to you can play tracks by anybody that cares to post them. james www.jbucknell.com "Vince Woolums" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 10/17/2001 10:28:34 AM To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> cc: (bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: Re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere Personally, I just can't get into Final Scratch and digital editing. There are hundreds DJs out there who are equipped with the physical hardware to (nearly) do this kind of audio montage live. They're called turntablists. And in techno, a few names shouldn't be too far out of mind - Mills, Young, Parker, Bone to name a few key Detroiters. Not to mention the detrimental effect use of digital files may have on the trade of vinyl discs... Vince Woolums AOL IM: vincewoolums http://bnsrecords.gemm.com http://www.recordcollectorinc.com - Original Message - From: Glyph1001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [313] hawtin hawtin everywhere > Mixed reviews is the consensus. I personally thought musically, the cd > was pretty cool and funky. I've said before that it sounded Studio > One-ish. This series is all about the gear and techniques that goes into > the production of these mixes, not necessarily the music itself, > although some people expected way too much from R1chie musically, hence > the mixed reviews. > > g. > > Rusty Blasco wrote: > > > So what's the consensus floating around thus far concerning the new > > R!chie H!wtin joint? I personally haven't heard it yet and am waiting > > for my first paycheck in months (fingers crossed it doesn't get held > > up somewhere in the bureaucratic process); a positive public opinion > > will increase the excitement I have towards my not-too-distant > > purchase. Has he mellowed out or become any housier (as a colleague > > informed me)? Please respond to me personally. > > > > Rusty > > > > _ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Personally, I just can't get into Final Scratch and digital editing. There are hundreds DJs out there who are equipped with the physical hardware to (nearly) do this kind of audio montage live. They're called turntablists. And in techno, a few names shouldn't be too far out of mind - Mills, Young, Parker, Bone to name a few key Detroiters. Not to mention the detrimental effect use of digital files may have on the trade of vinyl discs... Vince Woolums AOL IM: vincewoolums http://bnsrecords.gemm.com http://www.recordcollectorinc.com - Original Message - From: Glyph1001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [313] hawtin hawtin everywhere > Mixed reviews is the consensus. I personally thought musically, the cd > was pretty cool and funky. I've said before that it sounded Studio > One-ish. This series is all about the gear and techniques that goes into > the production of these mixes, not necessarily the music itself, > although some people expected way too much from R1chie musically, hence > the mixed reviews. > > g. > > Rusty Blasco wrote: > > > So what's the consensus floating around thus far concerning the new > > R!chie H!wtin joint? I personally haven't heard it yet and am waiting > > for my first paycheck in months (fingers crossed it doesn't get held > > up somewhere in the bureaucratic process); a positive public opinion > > will increase the excitement I have towards my not-too-distant > > purchase. Has he mellowed out or become any housier (as a colleague > > informed me)? Please respond to me personally. > > > > Rusty > > > > _ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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err...that's all i know too. It starts at 9:30pm..I do know that. I don't know how much though. d --- Kao Jyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i don't really know anything about this. > diana posted a week or two ago that they were > playing at the DC, and i only > just remembered. > the only info i can find is at www.monolake.de > > here's diana's post > > >Since it was being discussed... > > > > thanks to my handy dandy metro times and Brendan > M. > >Gillian's Pitch'd column: > > > > Thursday, August 30th: Matthew Herbert will be > >playing at Motor. Dani Scilliano on vocals and Phil > >Pharnell on piano. > > > > Monolake will also be at the DC Thursday, Aug. > 16th > >"courtesty of Mearsk-music" > > > >...and Peaches tonight at Magic Stick. > > > >d > > > > > > > > Please post this back to the list :-) > > The phone at DC is *way* behind on their calendar. > > jeff > > > > > > At 04:40 PM 8/16/2001, Kao Jyan wrote: > > >sh*t, monolake is tonight. > > >i'm relying on you lot to remind me about these > things. > > >what time do things start??? > > >kaojyan > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
