Re: (313) Carl Craig Mix On CLR
Thanks much for the heads-up on this, Wes. Andrew @andrewduke_cog http://soundcloud.com/andrewdukecognitionaudio https://new.myspace.com/andrewduke On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz wrote: New mix from Carl Craig on the CLR podcast, worth checking out: http://www.clr.net/index.pl Cheers, Wes http://www.mixcloud.com/westonprince/
Re: (313) Carl Craig 69 show in London
Given a choice I'd rather hear his 69 stuff more than anything else so I guess that's a good thing since its my personal favorite of his. He was wearing those masks at DEMF last year I think. I remember looking down there from the Detroit stage where I was at most of the time. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: I caught Carl play in London on Thursday night. A late venue change due to a stabbing at a BlackBerry party at the previous venue meant we were now at the Coronet at Elephant Castle. For anyone who doesn't know this space, it's generally used as a live venue. An old theatre, it's quite a large space, and this meant that the gig lost a fair amount of the intimacy that I was expecting. Playing live as 69, he performed in three different masks. First up was something that looked a cross between the Scream ghost mask and a hockey mask, second was Medico Della Peste mask, a Venetian mask that was most memorable as the long beak mask from Eyes Wide Shut. Last was the sad clown or Pierrot. And then at the end he lost the mask 'revealing his identity'. Not really sure what that had to do with the music, it wasn't as if he played in 3 (or 4) parts. Music was predominantly 69 with some sounds that sounded like a nod to Paperclip People. I can remember he played: My Machines Rushed Sound On Sound Poi et Pas Ladies Gentleman Desire (well a weird version that featured the beats reworked a little without the strings) Not sure whether Carl likes to play longer when he plays live, but 1 hour felt short. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it was really a retrospective at the end of the day. Considering he's not released any new music as 69 for 18 odd years apart from some reworkings, I was a little perplexed as to why he was doing gigs as 69 today. Also, interesting crowd. Was very young but I guess it's kinda cool to think that there were quite a few in the crowd enjoying sounds that were produced before they were born. They were into it though, the floor was full when he started and remained that way. Latest darling of the electronic set, Maya Jane Coles played after Carl, and whilst most people I spoke to said they were attending the gig for her, she was boring, flat and didn't get out of 2nd gear. After an hour or so I left... which was a shame as Efdemin was playing, but not until 5.15 so I doubt I was going to stay that late anyway! BG -- Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography +44 (0) 7714 3000 18
Re: (313) Carl Craig remixes Hot Chip
We've played with two of the guys from Hot Chip, good lads and they know their techno as they worked for Warp back in the day. m On 8 Jan 2010, at 19:31, kent williams wrote: http://www.urb.com/2010/01/08/hot-chip-one-life-stand-carl-craig-remix I have no use for Hot Chip, myself, and the cynically minded might view this as the latest chapter in CC's selling out. But I actually rather like this remix on its own terms. The original track? Eecchh
RE: (313) Carl Craig remixes Hot Chip
It would be good if they took a bit of a chance with *some* of their music. That's interesting, as I tend to got the impression somehow that they *could* write some edgier music if they tried. Perhaps I can sense the good taste lurking somewhere in what they've released. They're clearly instead opting for safety=security= [perhaps] money. That's where I part company with what they do. Ken -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:25 AM To: kent williams Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig remixes Hot Chip We've played with two of the guys from Hot Chip, good lads and they know their techno as they worked for Warp back in the day. m On 8 Jan 2010, at 19:31, kent williams wrote: http://www.urb.com/2010/01/08/hot-chip-one-life-stand-carl-craig-remix I have no use for Hot Chip, myself, and the cynically minded might view this as the latest chapter in CC's selling out. But I actually rather like this remix on its own terms. The original track? Eecchh
Re: (313) Carl Craig remixes Hot Chip
On 12 Jan 2010, at 09:29, Odeluga, Ken wrote: It would be good if they took a bit of a chance with *some* of their music. They're a pop band with a vocalist at the end of the day, I can't see them going Dada anytime soon. That's interesting, as I tend to got the impression somehow that they *could* write some edgier music if they tried. Perhaps I can sense the good taste lurking somewhere in what they've released. They played loads of Theo and Omar S if that helps :) m
Re: (313) Carl Craig remixes Hot Chip
Yeah I have to second that, they certainly know their music. If the techno police are gonna 'arrest' Carl, they probably would want to get him for the ex Sugababe girl (Siobhan Donaghy) remix, though, as pop acts go, she's pretty cool. On 12/01/2010, at 8:25 PM, Martin Dust wrote: We've played with two of the guys from Hot Chip, good lads and they know their techno as they worked for Warp back in the day. m On 8 Jan 2010, at 19:31, kent williams wrote: http://www.urb.com/2010/01/08/hot-chip-one-life-stand-carl-craig- remix I have no use for Hot Chip, myself, and the cynically minded might view this as the latest chapter in CC's selling out. But I actually rather like this remix on its own terms. The original track? Eecchh
Re: (313) Carl Craig remixes Hot Chip
I don't know - some of the cred acts are pretty boring to me. I don't get Junior Boys at all. I saw Mayer Hawthorne (he's from Ann Arbor) on the weekend and he was vg but right now no neo-soul act compares live to Daniel Merriweather. He's incredible live... he's somewhere between D'Angelo and Jeff Buckley and Lewis Taylor. On 13/01/2010, at 12:19 AM, Martin Dust wrote: On 12 Jan 2010, at 09:29, Odeluga, Ken wrote: It would be good if they took a bit of a chance with *some* of their music. They're a pop band with a vocalist at the end of the day, I can't see them going Dada anytime soon. That's interesting, as I tend to got the impression somehow that they *could* write some edgier music if they tried. Perhaps I can sense the good taste lurking somewhere in what they've released. They played loads of Theo and Omar S if that helps :) m
Re: (313) Carl Craig remixes Hot Chip
I think every man and his dog remixes Hot Chip... I can't keep up! The only people who get more remixes are Jamiroquai. I wish he'd remix White Lies... or (early) Kings of Leon... ;) On 09/01/2010, at 6:31 AM, kent williams wrote: http://www.urb.com/2010/01/08/hot-chip-one-life-stand-carl-craig-remix I have no use for Hot Chip, myself, and the cynically minded might view this as the latest chapter in CC's selling out. But I actually rather like this remix on its own terms. The original track? Eecchh
Re: (313) Carl Craig remixes Hot Chip
Maybe you can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear - that is, if you have some silk in your pocket. The other alternative is to totally ignore the track in question (an Aphex type of stunt) or trash it (like U-ziq did with the Auteurs). I still have a copy of Acacia's Sway, which I bought for the Plaid mix. Bad move, as Plaid actually tried to work with the source material. The most palatable remix on the disc was from Anthony Manning, who took the minimalist approach, using as little of the source material as humanly possible, yet still retaining a tiny glimmer of association with the original, rather like gingerly handling a turd with as little contact as possible kent williams wrote: http://www.urb.com/2010/01/08/hot-chip-one-life-stand-carl-craig-remix I have no use for Hot Chip, myself, and the cynically minded might view this as the latest chapter in CC's selling out. But I actually rather like this remix on its own terms. The original track? Eecchh
Re: (313) Carl Craig/Francesco Tristano The Melody
Christ - I'm only just getting into myspace - better catch up!!! 2009/11/28 Tristan Watkins phonop...@googlemail.com: And it looks like that's only the tip of the iceberg. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Glasgow-United-Kingdom/Rubadub/59699696224 The horror! On 28/11/2009 10:34, Tristan Watkins wrote: Haha. It's true! http://twitter.com/rubadub_glasgow Non-stop slagging off of some Jason fella though. On 27/11/2009 22:04, ja...@iridite.com wrote: What? We Tweet? You'll be telling me that we've got a Facebook Page next Jason (the Techno Luddite!) 2009/11/27 Tristan Watkinsphonop...@googlemail.com I gave up on music shop reviews about five years ago. That said, Rub-a-dub's tweets are very useful, and necessarily brief. On 27/11/2009 17:00, kent williams wrote: As a frequent, repeat customer of Boomkat, I feel compelled to rise to their defense. I write music reviews for a local free paper, and have written in the past for a variety of publications. What one realizes very quickly in writing reviews, is that it is difficult to do at all, let alone well. Especially when it comes to electronic music, where you don't often have lyrics to provide some sort of 'meaning' to critique. And the more you do it (and I've written hundreds over the past 10 years) the less you actually have to say. Boomkat's reviews are actually well written, and are much, much better than any other download store site on the internet. They are consistently helpful to me -- they provide context to each release which sends me off to research other related music. They are also sometimes humorous without succumbing to the jokey Britishisms that grate the ear when you read a lot of UK music publications. They are definitely oriented towards trying to shift units. They definitely reflect the personal prejudices of the writers. They, no doubt, occasionally give more weight to their friends or labels they don't want to make into enemies. But it's like reading anything -- you have to consider the source and make up your own mind. It isn't as bad as Beatport. Beatport tries to be all things to all people, so they pimp absolute sh1t. Beatport has discovered that you can make money catering to DJs with no taste, no shame, and no soul. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Martin Dustmar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 27 Nov 2009, at 15:23, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I like Boomkat's random shards of disdain. Although the fact that 99% of their reviews make each item sound like the next best thing since sliced bread, still leaves the final joke on them! This comes up a lot from techno heads, what do you really expect them to put? m
Re: (313) Carl Craig/Francesco Tristano The Melody
Haha. It's true! http://twitter.com/rubadub_glasgow Non-stop slagging off of some Jason fella though. On 27/11/2009 22:04, ja...@iridite.com wrote: What? We Tweet? You'll be telling me that we've got a Facebook Page next Jason (the Techno Luddite!) 2009/11/27 Tristan Watkinsphonop...@googlemail.com I gave up on music shop reviews about five years ago. That said, Rub-a-dub's tweets are very useful, and necessarily brief. On 27/11/2009 17:00, kent williams wrote: As a frequent, repeat customer of Boomkat, I feel compelled to rise to their defense. I write music reviews for a local free paper, and have written in the past for a variety of publications. What one realizes very quickly in writing reviews, is that it is difficult to do at all, let alone well. Especially when it comes to electronic music, where you don't often have lyrics to provide some sort of 'meaning' to critique. And the more you do it (and I've written hundreds over the past 10 years) the less you actually have to say. Boomkat's reviews are actually well written, and are much, much better than any other download store site on the internet. They are consistently helpful to me -- they provide context to each release which sends me off to research other related music. They are also sometimes humorous without succumbing to the jokey Britishisms that grate the ear when you read a lot of UK music publications. They are definitely oriented towards trying to shift units. They definitely reflect the personal prejudices of the writers. They, no doubt, occasionally give more weight to their friends or labels they don't want to make into enemies. But it's like reading anything -- you have to consider the source and make up your own mind. It isn't as bad as Beatport. Beatport tries to be all things to all people, so they pimp absolute sh1t. Beatport has discovered that you can make money catering to DJs with no taste, no shame, and no soul. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Martin Dustmar...@dustscience.comwrote: On 27 Nov 2009, at 15:23, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I like Boomkat's random shards of disdain. Although the fact that 99% of their reviews make each item sound like the next best thing since sliced bread, still leaves the final joke on them! This comes up a lot from techno heads, what do you really expect them to put? m
Re: (313) Carl Craig/Francesco Tristano The Melody
And it looks like that's only the tip of the iceberg. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Glasgow-United-Kingdom/Rubadub/59699696224 The horror! On 28/11/2009 10:34, Tristan Watkins wrote: Haha. It's true! http://twitter.com/rubadub_glasgow Non-stop slagging off of some Jason fella though. On 27/11/2009 22:04, ja...@iridite.com wrote: What? We Tweet? You'll be telling me that we've got a Facebook Page next Jason (the Techno Luddite!) 2009/11/27 Tristan Watkinsphonop...@googlemail.com I gave up on music shop reviews about five years ago. That said, Rub-a-dub's tweets are very useful, and necessarily brief. On 27/11/2009 17:00, kent williams wrote: As a frequent, repeat customer of Boomkat, I feel compelled to rise to their defense. I write music reviews for a local free paper, and have written in the past for a variety of publications. What one realizes very quickly in writing reviews, is that it is difficult to do at all, let alone well. Especially when it comes to electronic music, where you don't often have lyrics to provide some sort of 'meaning' to critique. And the more you do it (and I've written hundreds over the past 10 years) the less you actually have to say. Boomkat's reviews are actually well written, and are much, much better than any other download store site on the internet. They are consistently helpful to me -- they provide context to each release which sends me off to research other related music. They are also sometimes humorous without succumbing to the jokey Britishisms that grate the ear when you read a lot of UK music publications. They are definitely oriented towards trying to shift units. They definitely reflect the personal prejudices of the writers. They, no doubt, occasionally give more weight to their friends or labels they don't want to make into enemies. But it's like reading anything -- you have to consider the source and make up your own mind. It isn't as bad as Beatport. Beatport tries to be all things to all people, so they pimp absolute sh1t. Beatport has discovered that you can make money catering to DJs with no taste, no shame, and no soul. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Martin Dustmar...@dustscience.comwrote: On 27 Nov 2009, at 15:23, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I like Boomkat's random shards of disdain. Although the fact that 99% of their reviews make each item sound like the next best thing since sliced bread, still leaves the final joke on them! This comes up a lot from techno heads, what do you really expect them to put? m
RE: (313) Carl Craig/Francesco Tristano The Melody
I like Boomkat's random shards of disdain. Although the fact that 99% of their reviews make each item sound like the next best thing since sliced bread, still leaves the final joke on them! -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:13 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) Carl Craig/Francesco Tristano The Melody Not sure what I make of the track itself, but the Boomkat review has a sentence I found hilarious Mr Tristano returns with the suspiciously similar 'The melody', backed up with an absolutly essential Carl Craig remix for all those techno fans with a closet passion for Liberace. I'm trying to picture the Venn diagram of techno fans and Liberace fans.
Re: (313) Carl Craig/Francesco Tristano The Melody
On 27 Nov 2009, at 15:23, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I like Boomkat's random shards of disdain. Although the fact that 99% of their reviews make each item sound like the next best thing since sliced bread, still leaves the final joke on them! This comes up a lot from techno heads, what do you really expect them to put? m
RE: (313) Carl Craig/Francesco Tristano The Melody
No reviews at all! You've got the clips on there, the records can speak for themselves, so to speak ... -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:45 PM To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig/Francesco Tristano The Melody On 27 Nov 2009, at 15:23, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I like Boomkat's random shards of disdain. Although the fact that 99% of their reviews make each item sound like the next best thing since sliced bread, still leaves the final joke on them! This comes up a lot from techno heads, what do you really expect them to put? m
Re: (313) Carl Craig/Francesco Tristano The Melody
On 27 Nov 2009, at 15:49, Odeluga, Ken wrote: No reviews at all! You've got the clips on there, the records can speak for themselves, so to speak ... Haha - fair enough :) m
Re: (313) Carl Craig/Francesco Tristano The Melody
As a frequent, repeat customer of Boomkat, I feel compelled to rise to their defense. I write music reviews for a local free paper, and have written in the past for a variety of publications. What one realizes very quickly in writing reviews, is that it is difficult to do at all, let alone well. Especially when it comes to electronic music, where you don't often have lyrics to provide some sort of 'meaning' to critique. And the more you do it (and I've written hundreds over the past 10 years) the less you actually have to say. Boomkat's reviews are actually well written, and are much, much better than any other download store site on the internet. They are consistently helpful to me -- they provide context to each release which sends me off to research other related music. They are also sometimes humorous without succumbing to the jokey Britishisms that grate the ear when you read a lot of UK music publications. They are definitely oriented towards trying to shift units. They definitely reflect the personal prejudices of the writers. They, no doubt, occasionally give more weight to their friends or labels they don't want to make into enemies. But it's like reading anything -- you have to consider the source and make up your own mind. It isn't as bad as Beatport. Beatport tries to be all things to all people, so they pimp absolute sh1t. Beatport has discovered that you can make money catering to DJs with no taste, no shame, and no soul. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 27 Nov 2009, at 15:23, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I like Boomkat's random shards of disdain. Although the fact that 99% of their reviews make each item sound like the next best thing since sliced bread, still leaves the final joke on them! This comes up a lot from techno heads, what do you really expect them to put? m
Re: (313) Carl Craig/Francesco Tristano The Melody
I gave up on music shop reviews about five years ago. That said, Rub-a-dub's tweets are very useful, and necessarily brief. On 27/11/2009 17:00, kent williams wrote: As a frequent, repeat customer of Boomkat, I feel compelled to rise to their defense. I write music reviews for a local free paper, and have written in the past for a variety of publications. What one realizes very quickly in writing reviews, is that it is difficult to do at all, let alone well. Especially when it comes to electronic music, where you don't often have lyrics to provide some sort of 'meaning' to critique. And the more you do it (and I've written hundreds over the past 10 years) the less you actually have to say. Boomkat's reviews are actually well written, and are much, much better than any other download store site on the internet. They are consistently helpful to me -- they provide context to each release which sends me off to research other related music. They are also sometimes humorous without succumbing to the jokey Britishisms that grate the ear when you read a lot of UK music publications. They are definitely oriented towards trying to shift units. They definitely reflect the personal prejudices of the writers. They, no doubt, occasionally give more weight to their friends or labels they don't want to make into enemies. But it's like reading anything -- you have to consider the source and make up your own mind. It isn't as bad as Beatport. Beatport tries to be all things to all people, so they pimp absolute sh1t. Beatport has discovered that you can make money catering to DJs with no taste, no shame, and no soul. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Martin Dustmar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 27 Nov 2009, at 15:23, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I like Boomkat's random shards of disdain. Although the fact that 99% of their reviews make each item sound like the next best thing since sliced bread, still leaves the final joke on them! This comes up a lot from techno heads, what do you really expect them to put? m
Re: (313) Carl Craig/Francesco Tristano The Melody
What? We Tweet? You'll be telling me that we've got a Facebook Page next Jason (the Techno Luddite!) 2009/11/27 Tristan Watkins phonop...@googlemail.com I gave up on music shop reviews about five years ago. That said, Rub-a-dub's tweets are very useful, and necessarily brief. On 27/11/2009 17:00, kent williams wrote: As a frequent, repeat customer of Boomkat, I feel compelled to rise to their defense. I write music reviews for a local free paper, and have written in the past for a variety of publications. What one realizes very quickly in writing reviews, is that it is difficult to do at all, let alone well. Especially when it comes to electronic music, where you don't often have lyrics to provide some sort of 'meaning' to critique. And the more you do it (and I've written hundreds over the past 10 years) the less you actually have to say. Boomkat's reviews are actually well written, and are much, much better than any other download store site on the internet. They are consistently helpful to me -- they provide context to each release which sends me off to research other related music. They are also sometimes humorous without succumbing to the jokey Britishisms that grate the ear when you read a lot of UK music publications. They are definitely oriented towards trying to shift units. They definitely reflect the personal prejudices of the writers. They, no doubt, occasionally give more weight to their friends or labels they don't want to make into enemies. But it's like reading anything -- you have to consider the source and make up your own mind. It isn't as bad as Beatport. Beatport tries to be all things to all people, so they pimp absolute sh1t. Beatport has discovered that you can make money catering to DJs with no taste, no shame, and no soul. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Martin Dustmar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 27 Nov 2009, at 15:23, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I like Boomkat's random shards of disdain. Although the fact that 99% of their reviews make each item sound like the next best thing since sliced bread, still leaves the final joke on them! This comes up a lot from techno heads, what do you really expect them to put? m
Re: (313) Carl Craig- Shape
On 21 Sep 2009, at 10:53, Paul Kendrick wrote: Hi, I came across this via the Carhartt Europe web site and I've not seen this posted here; http://www.robotfestival.it/2009/artisti/shape/ It's a festival with CC and Moritz V Oswald and others as a band called Shape.. Cheers, looks interesting but don't you just hate it when this happens: Carl craig and Moritz Von Oswald , true legends of intelligent contemporary techno m
RE: (313) Carl Craig- Shape
That's the best of both worlds that is: 'intelligent' as in not 'dumb' and contemporary, as in something like contemporary country ;-) -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:02 AM To: 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig- Shape On 21 Sep 2009, at 10:53, Paul Kendrick wrote: Hi, I came across this via the Carhartt Europe web site and I've not seen this posted here; http://www.robotfestival.it/2009/artisti/shape/ It's a festival with CC and Moritz V Oswald and others as a band called Shape.. Cheers, looks interesting but don't you just hate it when this happens: Carl craig and Moritz Von Oswald , true legends of intelligent contemporary techno m
Re: (313) Carl Craig- Shape
On 21 Sep 2009, at 11:07, Odeluga, Ken wrote: That's the best of both worlds that is: 'intelligent' as in not 'dumb' and contemporary, as in something like contemporary country ;-) :) It gives me a proper sense of humour bypass every single time I see it used but that made me laugh Ken. m
Re: (313) Carl Craig- Shape
looks/sounds kinda .bad dudes jammin to a 4X4 with reverb yikes On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 21 Sep 2009, at 11:07, Odeluga, Ken wrote: That's the best of both worlds that is: 'intelligent' as in not 'dumb' and contemporary, as in something like contemporary country ;-) :) It gives me a proper sense of humour bypass every single time I see it used but that made me laugh Ken. m
Re: (313) Carl Craig- Shape
I'd just wish CC would finish/release that Tribe album first, beforing doing anything new :( 2009/9/21 Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com: On 21 Sep 2009, at 11:07, Odeluga, Ken wrote: That's the best of both worlds that is: 'intelligent' as in not 'dumb' and contemporary, as in something like contemporary country ;-) :) It gives me a proper sense of humour bypass every single time I see it used but that made me laugh Ken. m
RE: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010
I've bought a few records in my life [including some of yours] and been to a few festivals. I don't take myself as a sort of Child Welfare Agency. I did dance at a Carl Craig set at the Big Chill in 2005 hmmm, I wish I'd known about the Child Protection Angle so I could have made an informed choice. -Original Message- From: telepat...@comcast.net [mailto:telepat...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:10 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 Yay !!! Can't wait to see the banner We Support Carl Craig's Children next year ! telepathic regards, the kooky scientist - Original Message - From: Ken Odeluga ken.odel...@dowjones.com To: robin ro...@fivetones.org, Matt Kane's Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com Cc: 313 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 9:41:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 Not that I'm 'anybody' as such, but that did make me quietly resolve to go next year, at last. I'd expect Craig to help produce a 'better' Movement than we've seen in recent years, despite the inevitable constraints. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:15 PM To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313 313 Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 On 22 May 2009, at 14:13, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: From Sonic Sunset's Twitter feed: http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=10599 Wow. Might even consider returning now. robin...
Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010
Does that mean Miley Cyrus main stage? ;) That's what kids are into right? Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au On 25/05/2009, at 4:17 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I've bought a few records in my life [including some of yours] and been to a few festivals. I don't take myself as a sort of Child Welfare Agency. I did dance at a Carl Craig set at the Big Chill in 2005 hmmm, I wish I'd known about the Child Protection Angle so I could have made an informed choice. -Original Message- From: telepat...@comcast.net [mailto:telepat...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:10 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 Yay !!! Can't wait to see the banner We Support Carl Craig's Children next year ! telepathic regards, the kooky scientist - Original Message - From: Ken Odeluga ken.odel...@dowjones.com To: robin ro...@fivetones.org, Matt Kane's Brain mkb- pr...@hydrogenproject.com Cc: 313 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 9:41:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 Not that I'm 'anybody' as such, but that did make me quietly resolve to go next year, at last. I'd expect Craig to help produce a 'better' Movement than we've seen in recent years, despite the inevitable constraints. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:15 PM To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313 313 Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 On 22 May 2009, at 14:13, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: From Sonic Sunset's Twitter feed: http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=10599 Wow. Might even consider returning now. robin...
Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010
On 22 May 2009, at 14:13, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: From Sonic Sunset's Twitter feed: http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=10599 Wow. Might even consider returning now. robin...
RE: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010
Not that I'm 'anybody' as such, but that did make me quietly resolve to go next year, at last. I'd expect Craig to help produce a 'better' Movement than we've seen in recent years, despite the inevitable constraints. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:15 PM To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313 313 Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 On 22 May 2009, at 14:13, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: From Sonic Sunset's Twitter feed: http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=10599 Wow. Might even consider returning now. robin...
Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010
I am definitely there next year as well. Good news! - Original Message From: Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com To: robin ro...@fivetones.org; Matt Kane's Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com Cc: 313 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 9:41:26 AM Subject: RE: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 Not that I'm 'anybody' as such, but that did make me quietly resolve to go next year, at last. I'd expect Craig to help produce a 'better' Movement than we've seen in recent years, despite the inevitable constraints. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:15 PM To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313 313 Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 On 22 May 2009, at 14:13, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: From Sonic Sunset's Twitter feed: http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=10599 Wow. Might even consider returning now. robin...
Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010
Yay !!! Can't wait to see the banner We Support Carl Craig's Children next year ! telepathic regards, the kooky scientist - Original Message - From: Ken Odeluga ken.odel...@dowjones.com To: robin ro...@fivetones.org, Matt Kane's Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com Cc: 313 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 9:41:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 Not that I'm 'anybody' as such, but that did make me quietly resolve to go next year, at last. I'd expect Craig to help produce a 'better' Movement than we've seen in recent years, despite the inevitable constraints. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:15 PM To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313 313 Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 On 22 May 2009, at 14:13, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: From Sonic Sunset's Twitter feed: http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=10599 Wow. Might even consider returning now. robin...
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hopefully we don't end up with a festival full of boring detroit crap next year. -- From: Matt Kane's Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 9:13 AM To: 313 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 From Sonic Sunset's Twitter feed: http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=10599 Yay! -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg
Re: (313) Carl Craig. At Cité de la Musiq ue, Paris, France
Thank you SO much for putting this link up. I flew to Paris to see this concert and it was an absolute pleasure to experience. Thanks again! -Christopher O'Grady Martin Dust wrote: http://www.grandcrew.com/videos/50
Re: (313) Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3
I don`t know what the original sounds like since I have never listened to Ravel. In my opinion Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3 is a very poor release. The music simply hurts my ears. It is wy below par for Carl as well as Moritz. I was really looking forward to this release, but I got very disappointed. Structure totally got lost and the samples from the original collide head on with the music they have added to it. Not my cuppa tea. Peter On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel really strange listening to this. I have a half dozen different vinyl recordings of Le Sacre (as my composer mother conductor dad called it around the house) at least 3 CDs and a battered cassette of my dad conducting it with the Cedar Rapids Symphony. That was the first piece of classical music I really connected to emotionally, and I know it like a Public Enemy fan knows It Takes a Nation of Millions ... As a result I can't listen to your version with open ears -- it sounds truncated and weird to me. I can't even judge whether your version succeeds as a piece of art -- my personal associations with the orignal are too strong. I hope that maybe it will spur a few techno heads to check out the original. Now that's what I call OG techno! On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Kevin Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel that there is a huge connection between western classical music and detroit electronic music, no doubt. I want to hear more artists finding this link. I plan to release the song on vinyl soon. You can hear it on my myspace for the time being. www.myspace.com/kevinreynoldsdetroit
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It hasn't been released, so where are you listening to it? On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 10:41 AM, P.A. Keur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don`t know what the original sounds like since I have never listened to Ravel. In my opinion Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3 is a very poor release. The music simply hurts my ears. It is wy below par for Carl as well as Moritz. I was really looking forward to this release, but I got very disappointed. Structure totally got lost and the samples from the original collide head on with the music they have added to it. Not my cuppa tea. Peter
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Very nice indeed. I like that you gave it a slow kick - it keeps its gravitas that way. I also find the forms related, but it takes a deft hand to combine them successfully. Good work. jeff Kevin Reynolds wrote: I think its amazing that Moritz and Carl are re-doing Ravel's music with their own take. I can't think of better guys to do it and can not wait to hear it. I have done a similar project for the Detroit Symphony Orchestra. I was commissioned to remix a DSO recording of Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring. I was given original recordings and was directed to simply do what I do. It was defiantly one of the most challenging projects I have ever done. As a kid, I was exposed to classical music via DSO performances and needless to say I was completely honored and nervous to provide them with a remix. I feel that there is a huge connection between western classical music and detroit electronic music, no doubt. I want to hear more artists finding this link. I plan to release the song on vinyl soon. You can hear it on my myspace for the time being. www.myspace.com/kevinreynoldsdetroit thanks, kev
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I feel really strange listening to this. I have a half dozen different vinyl recordings of Le Sacre (as my composer mother conductor dad called it around the house) at least 3 CDs and a battered cassette of my dad conducting it with the Cedar Rapids Symphony. That was the first piece of classical music I really connected to emotionally, and I know it like a Public Enemy fan knows It Takes a Nation of Millions ... As a result I can't listen to your version with open ears -- it sounds truncated and weird to me. I can't even judge whether your version succeeds as a piece of art -- my personal associations with the orignal are too strong. I hope that maybe it will spur a few techno heads to check out the original. Now that's what I call OG techno! On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Kevin Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel that there is a huge connection between western classical music and detroit electronic music, no doubt. I want to hear more artists finding this link. I plan to release the song on vinyl soon. You can hear it on my myspace for the time being. www.myspace.com/kevinreynoldsdetroit
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Ok, the idea of reworking Bolero makes me cringe. But as far as jazz it is a different story I think. Sure traditional jazz is kinda dead, but at least Chicago, where I live, still has a pretty vibrant underground 'improv' scene... But people don't necessarily call it jazz anymore, it's just improvised, mostly acoustic (sometimes with laptop and electronics now) music that at certain moments reminds people of jazz and at other moments is more just soundscapes without any real style references. Chicago had a pretty big influence on world improvised music and post-jazz since the seventies I think, especially via these two groups: http://aacmchicago.org/ http://www.artensembleofchicago.com/ Sun Ra also had his roots in Chicago, which likely was a big influence on the two groups mentioned above. ~David On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Sep 2008, at 12:42, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I hear ya, but come on, be fair, it's not going to be Stock Take Waterdown is it? I just think if you got a full orchestra to play with I wouldn't want to be reworking anything but that's just MHO. SAW did know how to right a pop tune tho and they did it very well, Motown was the teacher :) Interestingly what was to become KLF totally funded SAW. I'd prefer new techno from the names too, but their 'jazz' isn't at all off-putting, to me any way. I do like some, mostly Zorn but I've just kinda got to the point where I feel the art-form is kinda dead, no-one else in tBd agrees but hey there you go. m
Re: (313) Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3
- Original Message - From: Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 9:37 AM Subject: (313) Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3 Don't know if this got posted yet: In Dutch: http://www.eclectro.nl/2008-08-31-carl-craig-moritz-von-oswald-recomposed-vol-3 In English: http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/moritz-von-oswald-and-carl-craig-join-forces-for-recomposed-vol3/ Looks interesting! W Nice! Thanks for posting this Wibo. Tristan
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Looks interesting but Bolero being picked as one of the pieces makes me anxious ;-) From: Wibo Lammerts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 September 2008 09:37 Don't know if this got posted yet: In Dutch: http://www.eclectro.nl/2008-08-31-carl-craig-moritz-von-oswald-recomposed-vol-3 In English: http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/moritz-von-oswald-and-carl-craig-join-forces-for-recomposed-vol3/
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I think I would have rather they worked on new pieces than the constant and often pointless reworking of the past, jazz isn't the teacher in my book. m PS and it's going to be hard to shift the images of Torvill and Dean ;) On 1 Sep 2008, at 12:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks interesting but Bolero being picked as one of the pieces makes me anxious ;-) From: Wibo Lammerts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 September 2008 09:37 Don't know if this got posted yet: In Dutch: http://www.eclectro.nl/2008-08-31-carl-craig-moritz-von-oswald-recomposed-vol-3 In English: http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/moritz-von-oswald-and-carl-craig-join-forces-for-recomposed-vol3/
RE: (313) Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3
-Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 12:28 PM To: Three-One-Three 313 Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3 I think I would have rather they worked on new pieces than the constant and often pointless reworking of the past, jazz isn't the teacher in my book. *** I tend to agree. Remember, that song didn't actually have any Jazz in it! Still, let's hear these new re-workings first .
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I think I would have rather they worked on new pieces than the constant and often pointless reworking of the past, jazz isn't the teacher in my book. *** I tend to agree. There's always a first time, how was it for you darling :) Remember, that song didn't actually have any Jazz in it! And it was still rubbish :) More a ref. to the dead art form really Ken. Still, let's hear these new re-workings first . I don't think I need to really. m
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I hear ya, but come on, be fair, it's not going to be Stock Take Waterdown is it? I'd prefer new techno from the names too, but their 'jazz' isn't at all off-putting, to me any way. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 12:39 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Three-One-Three 313 Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3 I think I would have rather they worked on new pieces than the constant and often pointless reworking of the past, jazz isn't the teacher in my book. *** I tend to agree. There's always a first time, how was it for you darling :) Remember, that song didn't actually have any Jazz in it! And it was still rubbish :) More a ref. to the dead art form really Ken. Still, let's hear these new re-workings first . I don't think I need to really. m
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On 1 Sep 2008, at 12:42, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I hear ya, but come on, be fair, it's not going to be Stock Take Waterdown is it? I just think if you got a full orchestra to play with I wouldn't want to be reworking anything but that's just MHO. SAW did know how to right a pop tune tho and they did it very well, Motown was the teacher :) Interestingly what was to become KLF totally funded SAW. I'd prefer new techno from the names too, but their 'jazz' isn't at all off-putting, to me any way. I do like some, mostly Zorn but I've just kinda got to the point where I feel the art-form is kinda dead, no-one else in tBd agrees but hey there you go. m
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Not to forget 10 ... From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 September 2008 12:28 PS and it's going to be hard to shift the images of Torvill and Dean ;) On 1 Sep 2008, at 12:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks interesting but Bolero being picked as one of the pieces makes me anxious ;-)
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I heard a rough version of this in May. It was excellent. Very long and mesmeric, like Reich. Unfortunately I think they had to edit it down for the release. -Original Message- From: Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 September 2008 09:37 To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3 Don't know if this got posted yet: In Dutch: http://www.eclectro.nl/2008-08-31-carl-craig-moritz-von-oswald-recomposed-vol-3 In English: http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/moritz-von-oswald-and-carl-craig-join-forces-for-recomposed-vol3/ [The entire original message is not included]
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i'm listening to it right now for the first time, the whole cd is roundabout 65 minutes long. it's not all bolero (intro plus first two parts, or movements as they are named. as dan said: Very long and mesmeric, like Reich. sounds very good so far. cheers, c* Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:09:46 +0100 Von: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: RE: (313) Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3 I heard a rough version of this in May. It was excellent. Very long and mesmeric, like Reich. Unfortunately I think they had to edit it down for the release. -Original Message- From: Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 September 2008 09:37 To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3 Don't know if this got posted yet: In Dutch: http://www.eclectro.nl/2008-08-31-carl-craig-moritz-von-oswald-recomposed-vol-3 In English: http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/moritz-von-oswald-and-carl-craig-join-forces-for-recomposed-vol3/ [The entire original message is not included] -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196
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Like Reich is a pretty wide brush - I'm guessing it's nothing like 19 wind-up clowns inside a piano :) m On 1 Sep 2008, at 14:09, Dan Bean wrote: I heard a rough version of this in May. It was excellent. Very long and mesmeric, like Reich. Unfortunately I think they had to edit it down for the release.
RE: (313) Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3
It' more like Reich's mid-period chamber music. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 September 2008 14:58 To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3 Like Reich is a pretty wide brush - I'm guessing it's nothing like 19 wind-up clowns inside a piano :) m On 1 Sep 2008, at 14:09, Dan Bean wrote: I heard a rough version of this in May. It was excellent. Very long and mesmeric, like Reich. Unfortunately I think they had to edit it down for the release.
Re: (313) carl craig in the wire
Brilliant, thanks for this link. Especially good to hear the full story of Recloose's 'demo tape on rye'! Wes -- http://www.myspace.com/westonprince On 4/30/08 6:44 AM, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philip Sherburne interviews Carl Craig: http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/948 Sherburne puts records on and CC has to guess what it is, and then they talk about stuff, or something. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) carl craig in the wire
Why did you retitle it The Album Formerly Known As a few years back? No, that was Landcruising. I renamed that because I mixed it over again and I didn't feel that it should be called Landcruising 2006 or some sh1t like that. The Album Formerly Known As is a reference to one of my heroes. You know what. I'm assuming Prince. Damn, i always made this free association in my mind... now it became true! :-D Carl Craig is an admirable guy, a great mind, a great producer. I've said it here once: his works already have the same amplitude of the greatest works in american music. Kw On 29/04/2008, at 15:44, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: Philip Sherburne interviews Carl Craig: http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/948 Sherburne puts records on and CC has to guess what it is, and then they talk about stuff, or something. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Carl Craig Track
I think the reflex sample just appears at the start. robin.. On 4 Mar 2008, at 03:55, Richard Hester wrote: I thought that Free Your Mind sampled Shut Up and Dance's Dance Before the Police Come, though they (PJ and Smiley) may have ripped their sample from Duran Duran for all I know. They certainly sampled just about everybody else - check the remix of that track and guess who they sampled..
RE: (313) Carl Craig Track
Perhaps it's just the break from the STFUD track? Sounds like it anyway . BTW, I can hear 'The Reflex' sample running through 'Free Your Mind', less obviously than the intro, but still there. Plus, I'm sticking my neck out to say there are not one, but two, - count 'em - samples used from Duran Duran's track. The second one, I think, is the 'la-la-la-la-la-la' or perhaps 'na-na-na-na-na' bit. (Those who don't have access to this audio [i.e., in their heads] without having to find some files or put on the record, may not be quite 100% down, alas . :-p) -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 March 2008 12:40 To: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig Track I think the reflex sample just appears at the start. robin.. On 4 Mar 2008, at 03:55, Richard Hester wrote: I thought that Free Your Mind sampled Shut Up and Dance's Dance Before the Police Come, though they (PJ and Smiley) may have ripped their sample from Duran Duran for all I know. They certainly sampled just about everybody else - check the remix of that track and guess who they sampled..
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Ah yes, thanks so much people. Actually Duran's John Taylor and Nick Rhodes assembled a great ol' skool mixtape a couple of years ago I would recommend with tracks by John Foxx and the like (on Amazon). Nick used to DJ at the Brum nightspot Rum Runner in the late '70s. It's a great listen and houses some lesser known New Wave and synth- pop. Roger has DJed a bit in recent years. They're lovely guys, too, as I have spoken to them for mags a couple of times and found them very au fait with house. I still argue that their music is more interesting than Depeche Mode's... On 04/03/2008, at 11:40 PM, robin wrote: I think the reflex sample just appears at the start. robin.. On 4 Mar 2008, at 03:55, Richard Hester wrote: I thought that Free Your Mind sampled Shut Up and Dance's Dance Before the Police Come, though they (PJ and Smiley) may have ripped their sample from Duran Duran for all I know. They certainly sampled just about everybody else - check the remix of that track and guess who they sampled..
RE: (313) Carl Craig Track
That's the one. It's the part from 'The Reflex' that says just that, so no mistaking. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 March 2008 07:52 To: Cyclone Wehner Cc: 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig Track Piece - Free Your Mind Samples The Reflex. err, I think. I'm not great at these kind of IDs. robin... On 3 Mar 2008, at 05:06, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Can anyone remember the track he did that samples Duran Duran and what track he sampled?
Re: (313) Carl Craig Track
It's on the 313 Infonet compilation. A compilation that helped change the way I viewed music (after I'd caught on to Detroit techno in 91 with the Retro Techno comp http://www.discogs.com/release/44984). I know, late! :) robin... On 3 Mar 2008, at 10:51, Odeluga, Ken wrote: That's the one. It's the part from 'The Reflex' that says just that, so no mistaking. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 March 2008 07:52 To: Cyclone Wehner Cc: 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig Track Piece - Free Your Mind Samples The Reflex. err, I think. I'm not great at these kind of IDs. robin... On 3 Mar 2008, at 05:06, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Can anyone remember the track he did that samples Duran Duran and what track he sampled?
Re: (313) Carl Craig Track
I thought that Free Your Mind sampled Shut Up and Dance's Dance Before the Police Come, though they (PJ and Smiley) may have ripped their sample from Duran Duran for all I know. They certainly sampled just about everybody else - check the remix of that track and guess who they sampled... That Infonet 313 compilation was influential for me as well. I didn't get into techno until '93, but I made up for lost time. The slew of Detroit reissues in '95 was a Godsend. robin wrote: It's on the 313 Infonet compilation. A compilation that helped change the way I viewed music (after I'd caught on to Detroit techno in 91 with the Retro Techno comp http://www.discogs.com/release/44984). I know, late! :) robin... On 3 Mar 2008, at 10:51, Odeluga, Ken wrote: That's the one. It's the part from 'The Reflex' that says just that, so no mistaking. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 March 2008 07:52 To: Cyclone Wehner Cc: 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig Track Piece - Free Your Mind Samples The Reflex. err, I think. I'm not great at these kind of IDs. robin... On 3 Mar 2008, at 05:06, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Can anyone remember the track he did that samples Duran Duran and what track he sampled?
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Piece - Free Your Mind Samples The Reflex. err, I think. I'm not great at these kind of IDs. robin... On 3 Mar 2008, at 05:06, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Can anyone remember the track he did that samples Duran Duran and what track he sampled?
Re: (313) carl craig do us a tape
Thanks for sharing, there a lot of things listed there I have not heard of before. Always interested to listen to music that inspires the people that make the music that inspires me. Adam On 6/25/07, Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 09:31:07AM +0100, Brendan Nelson wrote: Are you sure that's from 1995? Seems a bit odd that it mentions the Matrix and the new Star Wars films. It must be a bit more recent than that... Yes, you are right... It was 1999... hope the article is enjoyable the same way... Greetings G Brendan On 25/06/07, Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, Again out of my dusty boxes with old magazines, found this article in a 1995 edition of Muzik with C2 compiling some interesting bits: http://www.dinamicas.art.br/blog/2007/06/fitinha-do-carl-craig/ Cheers G -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD São Paulo, Brasil __ -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD São Paulo, Brasil __
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Yes in fact 3 of the tracks on there (Laswell mix of Miles Davis, Urban Tribe : Sophistry and the particular issue of the Lalo Schifrin that Brendan spotted the Star Wars and Matrix references in) are quoted as 1998. So it must be after that. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 June 2007 09:31 Are you sure that's from 1995? Seems a bit odd that it mentions the Matrix and the new Star Wars films. It must be a bit more recent than that... Brendan On 25/06/07, Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, Again out of my dusty boxes with old magazines, found this article in a 1995 edition of Muzik with C2 compiling some interesting bits: http://www.dinamicas.art.br/blog/2007/06/fitinha-do-carl-craig/
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ooops I just spotted that had been unravelled already my bad - just catching up after the weekend
Re: (313) carl craig do us a tape
Are you sure that's from 1995? Seems a bit odd that it mentions the Matrix and the new Star Wars films. It must be a bit more recent than that... Brendan On 25/06/07, Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, Again out of my dusty boxes with old magazines, found this article in a 1995 edition of Muzik with C2 compiling some interesting bits: http://www.dinamicas.art.br/blog/2007/06/fitinha-do-carl-craig/ Cheers G -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD São Paulo, Brasil __
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On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 09:31:07AM +0100, Brendan Nelson wrote: Are you sure that's from 1995? Seems a bit odd that it mentions the Matrix and the new Star Wars films. It must be a bit more recent than that... Yes, you are right... It was 1999... hope the article is enjoyable the same way... Greetings G Brendan On 25/06/07, Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, Again out of my dusty boxes with old magazines, found this article in a 1995 edition of Muzik with C2 compiling some interesting bits: http://www.dinamicas.art.br/blog/2007/06/fitinha-do-carl-craig/ Cheers G -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD São Paulo, Brasil __ -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD São Paulo, Brasil __
Re: (313) Carl Craig heads-up
Thanks a 1000! I`m grabbing it now. Gr, Peter On 6/15/07, Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As promised: FYI this file is the edited Detroit session/mix. http://seraphim.basemetal.co.uk/audio/ww.mp3 Tracklisting here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/gillespeterson/index.shtml I won't leave it up forever, so grab it while you can. I didn't think I'd feel bad about posting this on my site, seeing as I record the show every week, but it turns out I do. I suppose I am just being a hypocrite though. Btw, apologies if the d/l speed is rubbish. Peace, N -Original Message- From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 June 2007 21:33 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Carl Craig heads-up Alright you lot. I haven't forgotten - I have just switched ISPs and there are 'teething troubles' which loosely translated means my connection is all kinds of screwed up. Once I have it sorted, I'll post the link to the Tribe session and Detroit mix. I have to say, it isn't anything like I expected. It is actually better! This is proper heavy jazz. Peace, N -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 13:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig heads-up It's some exclusive versions of tracks on his upcoming Tribe project. He reassembled the existing Tribe members at his studio along with John Arnold and Karriem Riggins (and others?) to make some new tracks in the the spirit of the original Tribe recordings. Apologies to those that already know, but Tribe was a 70s jazz collective from Detroit on a similar tip to Black Jazz, Strata East etc. They released some amazing records that are now heavy collectors pieces. On 7 Jun 2007, at 11:52, Nik Stoltzman wrote: Wotcha. Just thought I'd stick my head above the parapet to say that on next week's Gilles Peterson show, he will be airing a live session from Carl Craig doing an Innerzone Orchestra style set. Not sure of the details at the moment, but it should definitely be worth checking out. Check here for more info: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/gillespeterson/ Cheers, N No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10
RE: (313) Carl Craig heads-up
Alright you lot. I haven’t forgotten - I have just switched ISPs and there are 'teething troubles' which loosely translated means my connection is all kinds of screwed up. Once I have it sorted, I'll post the link to the Tribe session and Detroit mix. I have to say, it isn't anything like I expected. It is actually better! This is proper heavy jazz. Peace, N -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 13:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig heads-up It's some exclusive versions of tracks on his upcoming Tribe project. He reassembled the existing Tribe members at his studio along with John Arnold and Karriem Riggins (and others?) to make some new tracks in the the spirit of the original Tribe recordings. Apologies to those that already know, but Tribe was a 70s jazz collective from Detroit on a similar tip to Black Jazz, Strata East etc. They released some amazing records that are now heavy collectors pieces. On 7 Jun 2007, at 11:52, Nik Stoltzman wrote: Wotcha. Just thought I'd stick my head above the parapet to say that on next week's Gilles Peterson show, he will be airing a live session from Carl Craig doing an Innerzone Orchestra style set. Not sure of the details at the moment, but it should definitely be worth checking out. Check here for more info: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/gillespeterson/ Cheers, N No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10
RE: (313) Carl Craig heads-up
As promised: FYI this file is the edited Detroit session/mix. http://seraphim.basemetal.co.uk/audio/ww.mp3 Tracklisting here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/gillespeterson/index.shtml I won't leave it up forever, so grab it while you can. I didn't think I'd feel bad about posting this on my site, seeing as I record the show every week, but it turns out I do. I suppose I am just being a hypocrite though. Btw, apologies if the d/l speed is rubbish. Peace, N -Original Message- From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 June 2007 21:33 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Carl Craig heads-up Alright you lot. I haven’t forgotten - I have just switched ISPs and there are 'teething troubles' which loosely translated means my connection is all kinds of screwed up. Once I have it sorted, I'll post the link to the Tribe session and Detroit mix. I have to say, it isn't anything like I expected. It is actually better! This is proper heavy jazz. Peace, N -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 13:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig heads-up It's some exclusive versions of tracks on his upcoming Tribe project. He reassembled the existing Tribe members at his studio along with John Arnold and Karriem Riggins (and others?) to make some new tracks in the the spirit of the original Tribe recordings. Apologies to those that already know, but Tribe was a 70s jazz collective from Detroit on a similar tip to Black Jazz, Strata East etc. They released some amazing records that are now heavy collectors pieces. On 7 Jun 2007, at 11:52, Nik Stoltzman wrote: Wotcha. Just thought I'd stick my head above the parapet to say that on next week's Gilles Peterson show, he will be airing a live session from Carl Craig doing an Innerzone Orchestra style set. Not sure of the details at the moment, but it should definitely be worth checking out. Check here for more info: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/gillespeterson/ Cheers, N No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10
Re: (313) Carl Craig heads-up
It's some exclusive versions of tracks on his upcoming Tribe project. He reassembled the existing Tribe members at his studio along with John Arnold and Karriem Riggins (and others?) to make some new tracks in the the spirit of the original Tribe recordings. Apologies to those that already know, but Tribe was a 70s jazz collective from Detroit on a similar tip to Black Jazz, Strata East etc. They released some amazing records that are now heavy collectors pieces. On 7 Jun 2007, at 11:52, Nik Stoltzman wrote: Wotcha. Just thought I'd stick my head above the parapet to say that on next week's Gilles Peterson show, he will be airing a live session from Carl Craig doing an Innerzone Orchestra style set. Not sure of the details at the moment, but it should definitely be worth checking out. Check here for more info: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/gillespeterson/ Cheers, N
RE: (313) Carl Craig heads-up
Nice, looking forward to something other than the style of some recent remixes. -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 13:46 It's some exclusive versions of tracks on his upcoming Tribe project. He reassembled the existing Tribe members at his studio along with John Arnold and Karriem Riggins (and others?) to make some new tracks in the the spirit of the original Tribe recordings. Apologies to those that already know, but Tribe was a 70s jazz collective from Detroit on a similar tip to Black Jazz, Strata East etc. They released some amazing records that are now heavy collectors pieces.
Re: (313) Carl Craig heads-up
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Nik Stoltzman wrote: Wotcha. Just thought I'd stick my head above the parapet to say that on next week's Gilles Peterson show, he will be airing a live session from Carl Craig doing an Innerzone Orchestra style set. Not sure of the details at the moment, but it should definitely be worth checking out. And if somebody manages to record this set, I'd love to have a copy. Gr, -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
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I`ll be able to rip it from the stream the week after. And post it as an mp3 in the same way I posted the Omar-s set a while back. Gr, Peter On 6/7/07, Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Nik Stoltzman wrote: Wotcha. Just thought I'd stick my head above the parapet to say that on next week's Gilles Peterson show, he will be airing a live session from Carl Craig doing an Innerzone Orchestra style set. Not sure of the details at the moment, but it should definitely be worth checking out. And if somebody manages to record this set, I'd love to have a copy. Gr, -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
Re: (313) Carl Craig heads-up
I don't want to steal anyone's thunder, but I record it straight from the FM broadcast, which works out pretty well in terms of quality. I'll post it on my site next Thursday. Cheers, N I`ll be able to rip it from the stream the week after. And post it as an mp3 in the same way I posted the Omar-s set a while back. Gr, Peter On 6/7/07, Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Nik Stoltzman wrote: Wotcha. Just thought I'd stick my head above the parapet to say that on next week's Gilles Peterson show, he will be airing a live session from Carl Craig doing an Innerzone Orchestra style set. Not sure of the details at the moment, but it should definitely be worth checking out. And if somebody manages to record this set, I'd love to have a copy. Gr, -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
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No stealing of thunder, that would be Superb! Are you going to record the entire Detroit special of just Carl Craig`s set? Gr, Peter On 6/7/07, Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to steal anyone's thunder, but I record it straight from the FM broadcast, which works out pretty well in terms of quality. I'll post it on my site next Thursday. Cheers, N I`ll be able to rip it from the stream the week after. And post it as an mp3 in the same way I posted the Omar-s set a while back. Gr, Peter On 6/7/07, Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Nik Stoltzman wrote: Wotcha. Just thought I'd stick my head above the parapet to say that on next week's Gilles Peterson show, he will be airing a live session from Carl Craig doing an Innerzone Orchestra style set. Not sure of the details at the moment, but it should definitely be worth checking out. And if somebody manages to record this set, I'd love to have a copy. Gr, -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
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The whole thing. I do it anyway: it is essential weekly listening! I can either post the entire show (works out about 220MB normally @ 256kbps) or just edit out the set. Not a big deal either way. Incidentally, the Cinematic Orchestra set from a month or so ago is still kicking around here: www.basemetal.co.uk/tco. I will probably have to pull it down next Thursday so get it while you can. Apologies if the bandwidth stinks - it is not on a very fast server. Go gentle on it! Cheers, N No stealing of thunder, that would be Superb! Are you going to record the entire Detroit special of just Carl Craig`s set? Gr, Peter On 6/7/07, Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to steal anyone's thunder, but I record it straight from the FM broadcast, which works out pretty well in terms of quality. I'll post it on my site next Thursday. Cheers, N I`ll be able to rip it from the stream the week after. And post it as an mp3 in the same way I posted the Omar-s set a while back. Gr, Peter On 6/7/07, Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Nik Stoltzman wrote: Wotcha. Just thought I'd stick my head above the parapet to say that on next week's Gilles Peterson show, he will be airing a live session from Carl Craig doing an Innerzone Orchestra style set. Not sure of the details at the moment, but it should definitely be worth checking out. And if somebody manages to record this set, I'd love to have a copy. Gr, -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
Re: (313) Carl Craig heads-up
on a more local (Detroit) tip, it looks like Carl has something at the Cityfest (used to be Tatsefest?) either on or close to July 4th. jeff Nik Stoltzman wrote: Wotcha. Just thought I'd stick my head above the parapet to say that on next week's Gilles Peterson show, he will be airing a live session from Carl Craig doing an Innerzone Orchestra style set. Not sure of the details at the moment, but it should definitely be worth checking out. Check here for more info: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/gillespeterson/ Cheers, N
Re: (313) Carl Craig Remixes
Just got my copy of the new Amp Fiddler and I have to say CC makes the beats sound VERY fat. I have a terrible non-hifi setup for mixin purposes and I was really surprised how good it sounds. Can't wait to play this on a big sound system :) -- Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net --
Re: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
Hi Francis, im pretty sure that the Pacou mix came from the discogs forum initially - I had a quick search and can find reference to the mix but not a tracklisting, im sure that with a bit more digging you will get it there or on Little Detroit. Cheers BT --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Title says it all really. I've said on this list before I seem to spend all my time listening to clips of new 12s at record shop sites. Often with little reward as there doesn't seem that much good new stuff out to justify doing that, instead of what I should be, which is: 1. Listening to the good records I did actually buy but am too busy listening to clips of more stuff to have actually played. 2. Listening to mixes I'd enjoy - and which when I actually do I generally get more exposure to good records I haven't heard and should set about buying (albeit 2nd hand and a bit harder to track down) than I do from shops. So the only time I seem to do 2 above is when I'm on holiday. After a month in Cuba last year I found a load of stuff I want to know about off those Deep Space Radio shows from a bit back. I came on here and said I'd cut and post clips. But surprise, surprise as soon as I'm back in the UK working, going out and listening to [EMAIL PROTECTED] shop's mailouts I've no time. Now I've come back from a month in Brazil with more stuff I've heard on my mp3 player and want to know what it is and buy! My only hope in the most pressing of these cases, 2 tracks from a mix of C2 stuff by Pacou called Pacou_-_CarlCraigWorks, is that rather than me having to get round to posting clips someone else knows this mix (I can't remember if I got it off here or somewhere else) and can tell me what the tracks at about 53 and 58 mins are. They sandwich one of the well known 69 tracks from RS (though I can't remember which one now) which is on around 55 mins. Anyone got a tracklist for this mix? I was frightened when I listened to it as I went in thinking oh yeah I'll know everything on this since I'm a C2 man but it'll be nice to lay in this hammock listening to one classic after another only to find quite a few I didn't know. The two I'm after are hot.
Re: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
T.Brookes+A.Soul - City LIfe (Craigs Caya Dub) -RushHour Carl Craig - 4 My Peepz-planet e Carl Craig - Darkness/ Angel-planet e Johnny L - This Time (Craig Mix) - XL Paperclip People - Throw-planet e Quadrant - Infinition(Craig MIx)-planet e Psyche-Andromeda(Craig Mix)-Transmat SpaceTime Continuum - Kairo Craig Remix-Reflective Designer Music Vol 1-problemz-planet e Dave Angel - Take Off (Craig Mix)-Blunted Psyche-Elements-Planet e Remake (eich me son sche)-planet e Carl Craig vs. Johnny Blas - Picadillo 7-ubiquity Paperclip People-Steam - Open Inner City - Goodlife (Craig Mix) - Pias Ultramarine - Hooter(Craig Rmx)-Real Soon Carl Craig - Technology-planet e Carl Craig-Climax(reworked)-Open Chez Damier - Help Myself (Craig Mix)-KMS 69-rushed-planet e/ R+S Reese Project - I Believe(Craig Dub)-Giant/ Warner BFC-Static Friendly-Fragile Designer Music Vol. 1 - Good Girls-planet e UFO - The Planet Plan (Craig Mix) - talkin loud Paperclip People - Floor - planet e Designer Music Vol 1 - Latin Chic behind door#1-planet e Innerzone Orchestra - nitwit-planet e Paperclip People - Paperclip Man- Open 69 - Extraterrestial Raggabeats - planet e Innerzone Orchestra-Bug In the Bassbin - planet e Carl Craig - No more Words - retroactive BFC - Sleep - beechwood On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Title says it all really. I've said on this list before I seem to spend all my time listening to clips of new 12s at record shop sites. Often with little reward as there doesn't seem that much good new stuff out to justify doing that, instead of what I should be, which is: 1. Listening to the good records I did actually buy but am too busy listening to clips of more stuff to have actually played. 2. Listening to mixes I'd enjoy - and which when I actually do I generally get more exposure to good records I haven't heard and should set about buying (albeit 2nd hand and a bit harder to track down) than I do from shops. So the only time I seem to do 2 above is when I'm on holiday. After a month in Cuba last year I found a load of stuff I want to know about off those Deep Space Radio shows from a bit back. I came on here and said I'd cut and post clips. But surprise, surprise as soon as I'm back in the UK working, going out and listening to [EMAIL PROTECTED] shop's mailouts I've no time. Now I've come back from a month in Brazil with more stuff I've heard on my mp3 player and want to know what it is and buy! My only hope in the most pressing of these cases, 2 tracks from a mix of C2 stuff by Pacou called Pacou_-_CarlCraigWorks, is that rather than me having to get round to posting clips someone else knows this mix (I can't remember if I got it off here or somewhere else) and can tell me what the tracks at about 53 and 58 mins are. They sandwich one of the well known 69 tracks from RS (though I can't remember which one now) which is on around 55 mins. Anyone got a tracklist for this mix? I was frightened when I listened to it as I went in thinking oh yeah I'll know everything on this since I'm a C2 man but it'll be nice to lay in this hammock listening to one classic after another only to find quite a few I didn't know. The two I'm after are hot.
Re: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
jeepers, got a link to the mix? On 14/02/07, Ben Britz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T.Brookes+A.Soul - City LIfe (Craigs Caya Dub) -RushHour Carl Craig - 4 My Peepz-planet e Carl Craig - Darkness/ Angel-planet e Johnny L - This Time (Craig Mix) - XL Paperclip People - Throw-planet e Quadrant - Infinition(Craig MIx)-planet e Psyche-Andromeda(Craig Mix)-Transmat SpaceTime Continuum - Kairo Craig Remix-Reflective Designer Music Vol 1-problemz-planet e Dave Angel - Take Off (Craig Mix)-Blunted Psyche-Elements-Planet e Remake (eich me son sche)-planet e Carl Craig vs. Johnny Blas - Picadillo 7-ubiquity Paperclip People-Steam - Open Inner City - Goodlife (Craig Mix) - Pias Ultramarine - Hooter(Craig Rmx)-Real Soon Carl Craig - Technology-planet e Carl Craig-Climax(reworked)-Open Chez Damier - Help Myself (Craig Mix)-KMS 69-rushed-planet e/ R+S Reese Project - I Believe(Craig Dub)-Giant/ Warner BFC-Static Friendly-Fragile Designer Music Vol. 1 - Good Girls-planet e UFO - The Planet Plan (Craig Mix) - talkin loud Paperclip People - Floor - planet e Designer Music Vol 1 - Latin Chic behind door#1-planet e Innerzone Orchestra - nitwit-planet e Paperclip People - Paperclip Man- Open 69 - Extraterrestial Raggabeats - planet e Innerzone Orchestra-Bug In the Bassbin - planet e Carl Craig - No more Words - retroactive BFC - Sleep - beechwood On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Title says it all really. I've said on this list before I seem to spend all my time listening to clips of new 12s at record shop sites. Often with little reward as there doesn't seem that much good new stuff out to justify doing that, instead of what I should be, which is: 1. Listening to the good records I did actually buy but am too busy listening to clips of more stuff to have actually played. 2. Listening to mixes I'd enjoy - and which when I actually do I generally get more exposure to good records I haven't heard and should set about buying (albeit 2nd hand and a bit harder to track down) than I do from shops. So the only time I seem to do 2 above is when I'm on holiday. After a month in Cuba last year I found a load of stuff I want to know about off those Deep Space Radio shows from a bit back. I came on here and said I'd cut and post clips. But surprise, surprise as soon as I'm back in the UK working, going out and listening to [EMAIL PROTECTED] shop's mailouts I've no time. Now I've come back from a month in Brazil with more stuff I've heard on my mp3 player and want to know what it is and buy! My only hope in the most pressing of these cases, 2 tracks from a mix of C2 stuff by Pacou called Pacou_-_CarlCraigWorks, is that rather than me having to get round to posting clips someone else knows this mix (I can't remember if I got it off here or somewhere else) and can tell me what the tracks at about 53 and 58 mins are. They sandwich one of the well known 69 tracks from RS (though I can't remember which one now) which is on around 55 mins. Anyone got a tracklist for this mix? I was frightened when I listened to it as I went in thinking oh yeah I'll know everything on this since I'm a C2 man but it'll be nice to lay in this hammock listening to one classic after another only to find quite a few I didn't know. The two I'm after are hot.
RE: (313) Carl Craig Remix
I wonder if it's a new remix or was done at the time? Still, sounds interesting. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2007 12:43 To: 313 List Subject: (313) Carl Craig Remix Has anyone heard Carl's remix of In the Trees by Faze Action, heard a couple of people going on about how big it is...Coming out on Juno's new label... m
Re: (313) Carl Craig Remix
Haven't heard it yet, but apparently it was in last week's Essential Mix (fifth from last rack according to below), so should be easy enough to track down... Sunday 4th February Radio Slave Trentemoller 'Moan (Radio Slave's Mix For K)' (Poker Flat) B.F.G 'Bubble Dancing (Radio Slave Remix)' (Good Evil Japan) Ricardo Villalobos 'Fizheur Zieheur' (Playhouse) Deetron 'Life Soundtrack (Radio Slave Remix)' (Music Man) Radio Slave 'Screaming Hands' (Rekids) Matt O'Brien 'Serotone (Radio Slave's Panorama Garage Mix)' (Rekids) Timmy Regisford 'Basic Track' (Unrestricted Access) Bookashade 'Darko (Radio Slave Remix)' (Get Physical) Shackleton 'Blood On My Hands (Ricardo Villalobos Remix)' (Skull Disco) Discemi 'Data Sapiens (Radio Slave Remix)' (Rekids) Joe Clausell 'Drums Of Ju' (Sacred Rhythms) Hot Chip 'No Fit State (Audion Remix)' (EMI) Trentemoller 'Moan (Radio Slave Beats Fx)' (Poker Flat) Jamie Anderson 'Time Is Now (Radio Slave's Panorama Garage Mix)' (Nrk) Faze Action 'In The Trees (Carl Craig Remix)' (Juno Records) Mala 'Left Leg Out' (Dmz) Peace Divison 'Black Light Sleaze (Radio Slave Dub)' (NRK) Kissogram 'My Friend Is A Seahorse (Radio Slave Remix)' (Def Drive) Mr G 'U Askin ?' (Rekids) Nick On 07/02/07, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone heard Carl's remix of In the Trees by Faze Action, heard a couple of people going on about how big it is...Coming out on Juno's new label... m
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On 7 Feb 2007, at 13:35, Nick Hardie wrote: Haven't heard it yet, but apparently it was in last week's Essential Mix (fifth from last rack according to below), so should be easy enough to track down... Sunday 4th February Radio Slave Matt O'Brien 'Serotone (Radio Slave's Panorama Garage Mix)' (Rekids) Serotone is also worth getting, fat tune. m
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You can check it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/essentialmix/index.shtml Not feeling it at all. Another one of his epic trancetastic reworks he seems to enjoy doing as of lately. Weatherall played it this weekend here in Porto and crowd went nuts for it though. Antonio On Feb 7, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I wonder if it's a new remix or was done at the time? Still, sounds interesting. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2007 12:43 To: 313 List Subject: (313) Carl Craig Remix Has anyone heard Carl's remix of In the Trees by Faze Action, heard a couple of people going on about how big it is...Coming out on Juno's new label... m
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Martin I 2nd that, and Matt must be pleased that a label like Rekids which is massive at present has picked it up. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2007 13:40 To: Nick Hardie Cc: 313 List Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig Remix On 7 Feb 2007, at 13:35, Nick Hardie wrote: Haven't heard it yet, but apparently it was in last week's Essential Mix (fifth from last rack according to below), so should be easy enough to track down... Sunday 4th February Radio Slave Matt O'Brien 'Serotone (Radio Slave's Panorama Garage Mix)' (Rekids) Serotone is also worth getting, fat tune. m
Re: (313) Carl Craig Remix
nope not for me... original still kicks enough for me.. p António Alves Felizardo wrote: You can check it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/essentialmix/index.shtml Not feeling it at all. Another one of his epic trancetastic reworks he seems to enjoy doing as of lately. Weatherall played it this weekend here in Porto and crowd went nuts for it though. Antonio On Feb 7, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I wonder if it's a new remix or was done at the time? Still, sounds interesting. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2007 12:43 To: 313 List Subject: (313) Carl Craig Remix Has anyone heard Carl's remix of In the Trees by Faze Action, heard a couple of people going on about how big it is...Coming out on Juno's new label... m
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mala sounds odd at that speed.. kinda got used to it now... Placid wrote: nope not for me... original still kicks enough for me.. p António Alves Felizardo wrote: You can check it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/essentialmix/index.shtml Not feeling it at all. Another one of his epic trancetastic reworks he seems to enjoy doing as of lately. Weatherall played it this weekend here in Porto and crowd went nuts for it though. Antonio On Feb 7, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I wonder if it's a new remix or was done at the time? Still, sounds interesting. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2007 12:43 To: 313 List Subject: (313) Carl Craig Remix Has anyone heard Carl's remix of In the Trees by Faze Action, heard a couple of people going on about how big it is...Coming out on Juno's new label... m
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--- António Alves Felizardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another one of his epic trancetastic reworks he seems to enjoy doing as of lately. I got shot down at a party (and probobly will here too) for suggesting that he has a program that he just inputs records that people want mixes of and it churns them out. Or that he has outsourced the remix duties to India like so many corporations and simply told them the rules for his mixes and then has weekly status calls with them... Cheers BT
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On 2/7/07, David Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got shot down at a party (and probobly will here too) for suggesting that he has a program that he just inputs records that people want mixes of and it churns them out. Or that he has outsourced the remix duties to India like so many corporations and simply told them the rules for his mixes and then has weekly status calls with them... what exactly are the similarities in his recent remixes aside from the fact that a large number of them are ridiculously dope? i cant think of two that sound the same, or even similar. i cant believe c2 would get hated on for being too good. that doesnt make any sense. tom
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--- Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what exactly are the similarities in his recent remixes aside from the fact that a large number of them are ridiculously dope? i cant think of two that sound the same, or even similar. i cant believe c2 would get hated on for being too good. that doesnt make any sense. tom Hi Tom, Before I start I dont want to get into a long protracted argument about this (or put on your hit list incase I come over to the festival) ;-)) I just think that the last couple of years remix output has been very formulaic - I have all of them so it hasnt put me off buying them. But they have a pattern, they have a similar beat, which gradually winds its way up with a hook from the original vocal (if there was one) and then it reaches a crescendo just when the needle hits the run out groove. And it not me hating on CC, its just a general observation. Cheers BT
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Hmm I dunno Tom, some of these C2 mixes are very formulaic. Things like that Darkness rework (Max Mix) he did, and things like that Xpress2 Kill 100 track, Terry Brookes remix, that Delia and Gavin Mix, even that Falling Up mix. Don't get me wrong though, I still be em all but they are a little C2-by-numbers. robin... what exactly are the similarities in his recent remixes aside from the fact that a large number of them are ridiculously dope? i cant think of two that sound the same, or even similar. i cant believe c2 would get hated on for being too good. that doesnt make any sense. tom
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Yeah, I'm with Tom on this! Strange one from you Dave! :) I tried to piece together some recent C2 remixes in my mind and I can't see such a pattern - although strictly speaking, BT wasn't calling one - that was Antonio. The last few which stood out for me are that remix of 'See Mi Yah', 'Busted Trees', and not forgetting 'Tides' of course. And finally, quite recently that remix of 'Relevee' by Delia Gonzales and Gavin Russom. It's possible your speculation has some grain of truth but it seems doubtful really. Also, note, I'm not saying that there are some remixes he's done which I'm not that impressed by: I thought 'Falling Up' (his remix of it) was just slightly above-average, in the end. Likeable, but not brilliant. Ken -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2007 14:24 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig Remix On 2/7/07, David Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got shot down at a party (and probobly will here too) for suggesting that he has a program that he just inputs records that people want mixes of and it churns them out. Or that he has outsourced the remix duties to India like so many corporations and simply told them the rules for his mixes and then has weekly status calls with them... what exactly are the similarities in his recent remixes aside from the fact that a large number of them are ridiculously dope? i cant think of two that sound the same, or even similar. i cant believe c2 would get hated on for being too good. that doesnt make any sense. tom
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Ken Odeluga Copy Editor - Markets, Market Talk (I meant) I'm not saying that there *aren't* some remixes he's done which I'm not that impressed by (convoluted I know) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2007 15:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Carl Craig Remix Yeah, I'm with Tom on this! Strange one from you Dave! :) I tried to piece together some recent C2 remixes in my mind and I can't see such a pattern - although strictly speaking, BT wasn't calling one - that was Antonio. The last few which stood out for me are that remix of 'See Mi Yah', 'Busted Trees', and not forgetting 'Tides' of course. And finally, quite recently that remix of 'Relevee' by Delia Gonzales and Gavin Russom. It's possible your speculation has some grain of truth but it seems doubtful really. Also, note, I'm not saying that there are some remixes he's done which I'm not that impressed by: I thought 'Falling Up' (his remix of it) was just slightly above-average, in the end. Likeable, but not brilliant. Ken -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2007 14:24 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig Remix On 2/7/07, David Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got shot down at a party (and probobly will here too) for suggesting that he has a program that he just inputs records that people want mixes of and it churns them out. Or that he has outsourced the remix duties to India like so many corporations and simply told them the rules for his mixes and then has weekly status calls with them... what exactly are the similarities in his recent remixes aside from the fact that a large number of them are ridiculously dope? i cant think of two that sound the same, or even similar. i cant believe c2 would get hated on for being too good. that doesnt make any sense. tom
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On 2/7/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I'm with Tom on this! Strange one from you Dave! :) I tried to piece together some recent C2 remixes in my mind and I can't see such a pattern - although strictly speaking, BT wasn't calling one - that was Antonio. The last few which stood out for me are that remix of 'See Mi Yah', 'Busted Trees', and not forgetting 'Tides' of course. And finally, quite recently that remix of 'Relevee' by Delia Gonzales and Gavin Russom. id add hot on the heels of love, angola, la mer es grande, and the boy is doing it. all of which are very distinctive! It's possible your speculation has some grain of truth but it seems doubtful really. Also, note, I'm not saying that there are some remixes he's done which I'm not that impressed by: I thought 'Falling Up' (his remix of it) was just slightly above-average, in the end. Likeable, but not brilliant. i feel pretty much the same way. i like it, but i prefer the original and almost never play the remix. and yeah, some of the other ones mentioned (xpress 2, terry brookes, goldfrap, etc) are the ones i just didnt buy because they werent very good, not because they sounded the same! tom
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also, anyone know anything about this: http://www.discogs.com/release/898512 ? tom On 2/7/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I'm with Tom on this! Strange one from you Dave! :) I tried to piece together some recent C2 remixes in my mind and I can't see such a pattern - although strictly speaking, BT wasn't calling one - that was Antonio. The last few which stood out for me are that remix of 'See Mi Yah', 'Busted Trees', and not forgetting 'Tides' of course. And finally, quite recently that remix of 'Relevee' by Delia Gonzales and Gavin Russom. id add hot on the heels of love, angola, la mer es grande, and the boy is doing it. all of which are very distinctive! It's possible your speculation has some grain of truth but it seems doubtful really. Also, note, I'm not saying that there are some remixes he's done which I'm not that impressed by: I thought 'Falling Up' (his remix of it) was just slightly above-average, in the end. Likeable, but not brilliant. i feel pretty much the same way. i like it, but i prefer the original and almost never play the remix. and yeah, some of the other ones mentioned (xpress 2, terry brookes, goldfrap, etc) are the ones i just didnt buy because they werent very good, not because they sounded the same! tom
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--- Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I'm with Tom on this! Strange one from you Dave! :) I tried to piece together some recent C2 remixes in my mind and I can't see such a pattern - although strictly speaking, BT wasn't calling one - that was Antonio. The last few which stood out for me are that remix of 'See Mi Yah', 'Busted Trees', and not forgetting 'Tides' of course. And finally, quite recently that remix of 'Relevee' by Delia Gonzales and Gavin Russom. id add hot on the heels of love, angola, la mer es grande, and the boy is doing it. all of which are very distinctive! It's possible your speculation has some grain of truth but it seems doubtful really. Also, note, I'm not saying that there are some remixes he's done which I'm not that impressed by: I thought 'Falling Up' (his remix of it) was just slightly above-average, in the end. Likeable, but not brilliant. i feel pretty much the same way. i like it, but i prefer the original and almost never play the remix. and yeah, some of the other ones mentioned (xpress 2, terry brookes, goldfrap, etc) are the ones i just didnt buy because they werent very good, not because they sounded the same! tom OK, maybee im wrong on this - I did say in my original post that I got shot down at a party for saying it and might here too. Just for clarification the ones I was thinking of were Delia and Gonzales See Mi Yah Falling up Terry Brookes (im sure there are others but cant think just now) I will keep quiet from now on Cheers BT
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On 2/7/07, David Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, maybee im wrong on this - I did say in my original post that I got shot down at a party for saying it and might here too. Just for clarification the ones I was thinking of were Delia and Gonzales this one sounds like the original but with a nasty tweaked 101 line See Mi Yah this one is more minimal techno to my ears Falling up Terry Brookes cant even remember what the TB sounded like, only that it wasnt very good. the falling up is kinda like his own recent productions moreso than those other remixes, IMO. I will keep quiet from now on shoosh! tom
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id add hot on the heels of love, angola, la mer es grande, and the boy is doing it. all of which are very distinctive! It's possible your speculation has some grain of truth but it seems doubtful really. Also, note, I'm not saying that there are some remixes he's done which I'm not that impressed by: I thought 'Falling Up' (his remix of it) was just slightly above-average, in the end. Likeable, but not brilliant. i feel pretty much the same way. i like it, but i prefer the original and almost never play the remix. and yeah, some of the other ones mentioned (xpress 2, terry brookes, goldfrap, etc) are the ones i just didnt buy because they werent very good, not because they sounded the same! tom Well I was referring mainly to the X-Press 2, Goldfrapp and Brazilian Girls remixes when I wrote 'Another one of his epic trancetastic reworks he seems to enjoy doing as of lately.', about the Faze Action remix. I do love the ones you mentioned though, they sound very unique and distinctive. Still, the last C2 remix I bought was the Delia Gavim one, that piano breakdown always gives me the chills!
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Well, I listed that one as being one of his formulaic releases but I love the bit later on when the the bongos (or whatever they're called) and pianos come in. Ace. The way that track builds is very similar to the other tracks I list though. robin... I do love the ones you mentioned though, they sound very unique and distinctive. Still, the last C2 remix I bought was the Delia Gavim one, that piano breakdown always gives me the chills!
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: i feel pretty much the same way. i like it, but i prefer the original and almost never play the remix. and yeah, some of the other ones mentioned (xpress 2, terry brookes, goldfrap, etc) are the ones i just didnt buy because they werent very good, not because they sounded the same! I thought the Terry Brookes remixes were amazing! *shrugg* Ill throw in the Kult Copy remix for another incredible mix. And, while there are some exceptions, I do feel that as of the last couple years (read 2004 - present) Carl has mostly adopted a formula. I dont think thats a bad thing, and he does vary it up enough to make it still interesting, but to hear people say that they dont (for the most part) hear the same sort of formula to them is kinda odd. derek.
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On 2/7/07, Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ill throw in the Kult Copy remix for another incredible mix. that one was pretty nice too, i thikn i prefer the original though. And, while there are some exceptions, I do feel that as of the last couple years (read 2004 - present) Carl has mostly adopted a formula. I dont think thats a bad thing, and he does vary it up enough to make it still interesting, but to hear people say that they dont (for the most part) hear the same sort of formula to them is kinda odd. i mean if by formula you mean the guy makes tracks that build instead of just loopy tracks, i guess thats true. but if you wanna hear formulaic dance music (Stuff that literally sounds exactly the same with different samples) check the jungle producer Aphrodite from 96-98 or so. now THAT is formulaic to me. tom
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Ill throw in the Kult Copy remix for another incredible mix. that one was pretty nice too, i thikn i prefer the original though. i agree, same with the terry brookes too. And, while there are some exceptions, I do feel that as of the last couple years (read 2004 - present) Carl has mostly adopted a formula. I dont think thats a bad thing, and he does vary it up enough to make it still interesting, but to hear people say that they dont (for the most part) hear the same sort of formula to them is kinda odd. i mean if by formula you mean the guy makes tracks that build instead of just loopy tracks, i guess thats true. yeah, I think every one of us that has commented about them being done to a formula has actually bought the records and likes themmake of that what you will. there's certainly no hating going on :) robin...
