[arr] Re: Why CWG song is targeted by...
very well said pavan.. First of all, I don't believe that they've listened the complete track properly.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, $ Pavan Kumar $ wrote: > > Why CWG song is targeted by... > > Opposition - The name itself says "Opposition", what more can one expect from > them. Even if CWG becomes a success, they will oppose it saying that the > country > didn't need these games and only tax payers money was wasted on this. > > Media - Not every day they get a chance to publish a news against Rahman. > Just > to show that they are not partial to Rahman in everything he does, they are > publishing these kind of articles. So they are using this opportunity to > criticize his work by asking opinions about this song from every tom, dick > and > harry.. > > Government - Some of them from Govt are using media to convey their > displeasures > about this song. Why? To divert the attention from other important > things(incomplete venues etc etc) and make ARR and the song the scapegoat. > After > all, they are the easy targets you see. > > So called Senior Music Composers - Firstly, they can't digest the fact that > why > only Rahman was asked to compose a theme song and why they were not...and the > most hurting factor for them is the price tag that is floating around for > that > song.. > > Fans - Nothing new with these poor fellows...Some of them have genuine > reasons > for their dislike and others are still in 90's mode. They still refuse to > believe that Rahman is a human being. They want Roja's and Thiruda Thiruda's > all > the time..and when Rahman gives them the album with 90's touch, they say > that > the song is outdated and Rahman has lost his touch... > > > Just my opinion...not to hurt any one... >
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There is an exaggerated artificial opposition for this song. Yeah, they want to divert the media and people's attention away from other most important unfinished work. While they compare waka and cwg, also ask them to compare usual fan folllowing for soccer worldcup and cwg across world. Probably half of the world does not even know about these cwgs.. their statistics on internet searches and downloads of waka and cwg does not make sense.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, $ Pavan Kumar $ wrote: > > Why CWG song is targeted by... > > Opposition - The name itself says "Opposition", what more can one expect from > them. Even if CWG becomes a success, they will oppose it saying that the > country > didn't need these games and only tax payers money was wasted on this. > > Media - Not every day they get a chance to publish a news against Rahman. > Just > to show that they are not partial to Rahman in everything he does, they are > publishing these kind of articles. So they are using this opportunity to > criticize his work by asking opinions about this song from every tom, dick > and > harry.. > > Government - Some of them from Govt are using media to convey their > displeasures > about this song. Why? To divert the attention from other important > things(incomplete venues etc etc) and make ARR and the song the scapegoat. > After > all, they are the easy targets you see. > > So called Senior Music Composers - Firstly, they can't digest the fact that > why > only Rahman was asked to compose a theme song and why they were not...and the > most hurting factor for them is the price tag that is floating around for > that > song.. > > Fans - Nothing new with these poor fellows...Some of them have genuine > reasons > for their dislike and others are still in 90's mode. They still refuse to > believe that Rahman is a human being. They want Roja's and Thiruda Thiruda's > all > the time..and when Rahman gives them the album with 90's touch, they say > that > the song is outdated and Rahman has lost his touch... > > > Just my opinion...not to hurt any one... >
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Great post, Pavan! I agree with you 100%! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, $ Pavan Kumar $ wrote: > > Why CWG song is targeted by... > > Opposition - The name itself says "Opposition", what more can one expect from > them. Even if CWG becomes a success, they will oppose it saying that the > country > didn't need these games and only tax payers money was wasted on this. > > Media - Not every day they get a chance to publish a news against Rahman. > Just > to show that they are not partial to Rahman in everything he does, they are > publishing these kind of articles. So they are using this opportunity to > criticize his work by asking opinions about this song from every tom, dick > and > harry.. > > Government - Some of them from Govt are using media to convey their > displeasures > about this song. Why? To divert the attention from other important > things(incomplete venues etc etc) and make ARR and the song the scapegoat. > After > all, they are the easy targets you see. > > So called Senior Music Composers - Firstly, they can't digest the fact that > why > only Rahman was asked to compose a theme song and why they were not...and the > most hurting factor for them is the price tag that is floating around for > that > song.. > > Fans - Nothing new with these poor fellows...Some of them have genuine > reasons > for their dislike and others are still in 90's mode. They still refuse to > believe that Rahman is a human being. They want Roja's and Thiruda Thiruda's > all > the time..and when Rahman gives them the album with 90's touch, they say > that > the song is outdated and Rahman has lost his touch... > > > Just my opinion...not to hurt any one... >
[arr] Re: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
Agree! Different versions should be released; perhaps they will be released on a CD (just like 'One Love' in different languages). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "::: rahmanian :::" wrote: > > > Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? > > Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. > Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom & > etc.. > Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National > Language.. > But even the song should be in English version too.. > so that it ll reach all over the world.. > i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. > So it's better to release in English too.. > otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. > > > > 00 91 99941 88566 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 00 91 99941 > 88566 end_of_the_skype_highlighting > rahmanian rajkumar > http://www.youtube.com/bobyi >
[arr] Re: Why the past songs are better
Also the thing about nostalgia is you mostly remember only the good things, the great things and the happy things that happened to you... my theory is that this is directly proportional to the amount of time that has passed by. Of course, occasionally there are the bad things that you can't let go off yet... or you don't want to. You remember the wonderful things that happened to you and the music assiciated with those (AR's cheerful songs (actually most of AR's songs)). You dont remember the horrible things that happened to you and esp the music associated with those. That's probably another place AR scores big time... even if bad things happened to you, you would end up seeking solace somewhere... and what better than AR's soulful music! disclaimer - this post has nothing to do with 90's vs 00's or any other comparisons. this is just a though about nostalgia... cheers! tmxtp --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Abhimanyu Rana wrote: > > I guess, the feeling is similar to human nature/behavior where one always > remember ones childhood days no matter how complaining one had been during those > days and how understanding one is at present time of life. > > But this is just what I guess. > > Regards, > Abhimanyu Rana > http://twitter.com/methenextlevel > > > > > > > From: danny_3d2003 danpictogra...@... > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tue, 24 August, 2010 12:15:55 PM > Subject: [arr] Re: Why the past songs are better > > > True Roshan... Nostalgia is the main reason why we all keep saying the past was > always better > > In the case of our Boss if he had kept on doing the same kind of stuff he used > to do in the 90's he wudn't have won the Oscar/Grammy etc.. ARR is Genius its we > people who needs to grow > > but still at times i wish if he cud repeat a 'Puthiya Mugam' or 'Duet' - well > nostalgic again :P > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pixels@ wrote: > > > > A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was better > > in his 90s. Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from the > > past. Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and singers. > > > > > > But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past. it > > is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling in > > love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a great > > friend.. the whole life. We always think that past was somehow better. We > > are always worried about the future. don't we cherish memories from our > > childhood and teenage ? It is the same with songs. when we hear an old > > song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness that > > we related to that particular song. > > > > Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine. there are plenty of > > great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a > > great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when > > I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was > > in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost > > something but, in reality I haven't. > > > > I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot. it is a great song, musically. But > > the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first > > portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of > > rangeela as a gift. I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular > > kid because I had a walkman. lots of kids would come to our dormitory to > > listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and > > placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the > > kids can hear it. I was so excited. because not only I got more friends, I > > was doing something with electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and > > connecting the wires to the speaker, making the sound go louder with just > > one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was Einstein! > > > > now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that > > cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers. > > > > We all talk about how great the classics were. we regard RD Burman, > > Noushad, Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and > > some people even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how > > music has lost its soul. It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those > > peop
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I guess, the feeling is similar to human nature/behavior where one always remember ones childhood days no matter how complaining one had been during those days and how understanding one is at present time of life. But this is just what I guess. Regards, Abhimanyu Rana http://twitter.com/methenextlevel From: danny_3d2003 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 24 August, 2010 12:15:55 PM Subject: [arr] Re: Why the past songs are better True Roshan... Nostalgia is the main reason why we all keep saying the past was always better In the case of our Boss if he had kept on doing the same kind of stuff he used to do in the 90's he wudn't have won the Oscar/Grammy etc.. ARR is Genius its we people who needs to grow but still at times i wish if he cud repeat a 'Puthiya Mugam' or 'Duet' - well nostalgic again :P --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan wrote: > > A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was better > in his 90s. Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from the > past. Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and singers. > > > But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past. it > is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling in > love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a great > friend.. the whole life. We always think that past was somehow better. We > are always worried about the future. don't we cherish memories from our > childhood and teenage ? It is the same with songs. when we hear an old > song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness that > we related to that particular song. > > Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine. there are plenty of > great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a > great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when > I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was > in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost > something but, in reality I haven't. > > I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot. it is a great song, musically. But > the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first > portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of > rangeela as a gift. I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular > kid because I had a walkman. lots of kids would come to our dormitory to > listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and > placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the > kids can hear it. I was so excited. because not only I got more friends, I > was doing something with electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and > connecting the wires to the speaker, making the sound go louder with just > one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was Einstein! > > now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that > cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers. > > We all talk about how great the classics were. we regard RD Burman, > Noushad, Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and > some people even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how > music has lost its soul. It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those > people related to their most cherished memories when they hear their > favorites. give today's music another 20 to 30 years and we will be > talking about how great the 2010's music were. > > It is same for AR Rahman. the reason why some of you think that ar rahman > created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or > children during that time and probably were having the greatest times of > your life. there were lots of things happening, experiencing new things.. > and probably ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when > you hear it now, you are taken back to that golden era of your life. > > > try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the soul. > it only means that you have grown up, you have become more experienced, > aged and wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense, just for > fun.). get into the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all can enjoy > the Kala Bandar and Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran. I bet you will. > > > sorry about the long post :) > > > --- > http://roshanravi.com > http://ramblingsoul.com > http://cssheaven.org >
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perfect, I too was thinking of writing something on these lines. Simply put it is nostalgia which plays a big part. We then consciously want to have the same nostalgia with the new song/music and if I am not open to accepting newer things easily, then I will feel the new is not as good as the old. This is also the reason why the older generation always feels they saw better days and kids of today know nothing. I read this quote somewhere: "Every generation believes that they are smarter than the previous generation and wiser than the next generation" From: Gayathri To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 4:21:32 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Why the past songs are better That is a very well-thought and genuine article you have there Roshan. You know, I was just about to write a similar piece myself but you beat me to it! ;)) Glad you did, it was just wonderful to read them. On a further note, I wish to state a few points myself with regards to this issue and hope you don't mind me sharing your space here. (P.S: This is a long mail. You have the choice of deleting this mail this very moment if you want :)) Don't tell me that I didn't warn you!) I do agree with Roshan that ARR's 90's numbers would trigger a wonderful memory in each of our minds and that's what makes them to be so special. But more than the memories associated with the songs, it's also the music themselves which we find to be explicitly wonderful and fresh. When Roja happened, I was barely 9 years old. Til' then, film songs have failed to invoke any sort of feelings in me and I grew up to believe that songs are there for the sole purpose to prove that actors can dance and sing (yes, I was gullible enough to believe that actors sing themselves in films then). But it was only through Roja that I finally understood the impact that film music has on its listeners. The first time I saw the opening chasing scene in Roja, I could hardly understand what was going on. Everything was so blue in color and I had no clue who was chasing whom. And yet, my heart was thumping so fast...as fast as the music in the background. It was through the music that I knew how intense the whole sequence was. It was also the first time I noticed the impact that a bgm has on a scene. The subsequent scene that followed was the opening number, Chinna Chinna Aasai. And though ARR went on to compose many wonderful songs after this, Chinna Chinna Aasai remained as my favorite til date. Remember the prelude that accompanied the rising of the sun in the song? The tune was so authentic that I often believed that a sunrise would sound just like that. Even today, whenever I get the oppurtunity to watch a sunrise, the prelude would automatically play in my mind. That was just a small example of the impact that ARR's music had on me. Over the years, I grew up to listen and fall in love with many songs, some of them I loved even without knowing that ARR composed the same. One such song was Pattampoochi Parakum from Puthiya Manargal. I first heard this song when my family and I were going on a long drive and the song was being played on the car stereo. I didn't know who was the Music Director then, but I just fell in love with the song the very moment I heard it. There was something very grand and catchy in the tune, especially the chorus, that you just wanna sing along with it. I remember asking my dad to play the song over and over again. We didn't have cd players back then so my mom who sat on the passenger seat in front, would religiously rewind the cassette to play the song. No one complained though. It seemed that everyone was in love with the song. Another song that I fell in love on the first instance was Kannalane from Bombay. We were supposed to perform a dance for a school concert and one of my friends suggested we dance for this song- she called it the "Bombay song", so naturally I thought it was a hindi or a bhangra number that we were supposed to perform to. Imagine my surprise when she played the Kannalane on the cassette player. The opening chorus itself was so beautiful and magical that I just sat in front of the radio listening to the whole song. We never got to perform the dance though. The school concert had to be cancelled at the last moment for some reasons, but the song remained closed to my heart. Over the years, we see that ARR's music has gone through a steady and wonderful evolvement. Though all of us are genuinely happy to see his growth and achievement, there's always a part of us that want ARR to remain where he was earlier, the ARR we fell in love with in the 90's. We want him to invoke the same magic he gave us back then, but it's just not possible. I remember reading Rawat's mail sometime back where he said that ARR's
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True Roshan... Nostalgia is the main reason why we all keep saying the past was always better In the case of our Boss if he had kept on doing the same kind of stuff he used to do in the 90's he wudn't have won the Oscar/Grammy etc.. ARR is Genius its we people who needs to grow but still at times i wish if he cud repeat a 'Puthiya Mugam' or 'Duet' - well nostalgic again :P --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan wrote: > > A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was better > in his 90s. Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from the > past. Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and singers. > > > But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past. it > is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling in > love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a great > friend.. the whole life. We always think that past was somehow better. We > are always worried about the future. don't we cherish memories from our > childhood and teenage ? It is the same with songs. when we hear an old > song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness that > we related to that particular song. > > Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine. there are plenty of > great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a > great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when > I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was > in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost > something but, in reality I haven't. > > I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot. it is a great song, musically. But > the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first > portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of > rangeela as a gift. I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular > kid because I had a walkman. lots of kids would come to our dormitory to > listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and > placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the > kids can hear it. I was so excited. because not only I got more friends, I > was doing something with electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and > connecting the wires to the speaker, making the sound go louder with just > one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was Einstein! > > now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that > cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers. > > We all talk about how great the classics were. we regard RD Burman, > Noushad, Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and > some people even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how > music has lost its soul. It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those > people related to their most cherished memories when they hear their > favorites. give today's music another 20 to 30 years and we will be > talking about how great the 2010's music were. > > It is same for AR Rahman. the reason why some of you think that ar rahman > created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or > children during that time and probably were having the greatest times of > your life. there were lots of things happening, experiencing new things.. > and probably ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when > you hear it now, you are taken back to that golden era of your life. > > > try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the soul. > it only means that you have grown up, you have become more experienced, > aged and wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense, just for > fun.). get into the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all can enjoy > the Kala Bandar and Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran. I bet you will. > > > sorry about the long post :) > > > --- > http://roshanravi.com > http://ramblingsoul.com > http://cssheaven.org >
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Great post Gayathri. glad to know that I beat you to it.. lol. it was sort of spontaneous though didn't really expect to write anything at all. I don't, usually. thanks for your thoughts on this. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Gayathri wrote: > > > That is a very well-thought and genuine article you have there Roshan. You > know, I was just about to write a similar piece myself but you beat me to > it! ;)) Glad you did, it was just wonderful to read them. > > On a further note, I wish to state a few points myself with regards to this > issue and hope you don't mind me sharing your space here. > > *(P.S: This is a long mail. You have the choice of deleting this mail this > very moment if you want :)) Don't tell me that I didn't warn you!)* > > I do agree with Roshan that ARR's 90's numbers would trigger a wonderful > memory in each of our minds and that's what makes them to be so special. But > more than the memories associated with the songs, it's also the music > themselves which we find to be explicitly wonderful and fresh. > > When Roja happened, I was barely 9 years old. Til' then, film songs have > failed to invoke any sort of feelings in me and I grew up to believe that > songs are there for the sole purpose to prove that actors can dance and sing > (yes, I was gullible enough to believe that actors sing themselves in films > then). > > But it was only through Roja that I finally understood the impact that film > music has on its listeners. The first time I saw the opening chasing scene > in Roja, I could hardly understand what was going on. Everything was so blue > in color and I had no clue who was chasing whom. And yet, my heart was > thumping so fast...as fast as the music in the background. It was through > the music that I knew how intense the whole sequence was. It was also the > first time I noticed the impact that a bgm has on a scene. The subsequent > scene that followed was the opening number, Chinna Chinna Aasai. And though > ARR went on to compose many wonderful songs after this, Chinna Chinna Aasai > remained as my favorite til date. Remember the prelude that accompanied the > rising of the sun in the song? The tune was so authentic that I often > believed that a sunrise would sound just like that. Even today, whenever I > get the oppurtunity to watch a sunrise, the prelude would automatically play > in my mind. That was just a small example of the impact that ARR's music had > on me. > > Over the years, I grew up to listen and fall in love with many songs, some > of them I loved even without knowing that ARR composed the same. One such > song was Pattampoochi Parakum from Puthiya Manargal. I first heard this song > when my family and I were going on a long drive and the song was being > played on the car stereo. I didn't know who was the Music Director then, but > I just fell in love with the song the very moment I heard it. There was > something very grand and catchy in the tune, especially the chorus, that you > just wanna sing along with it. I remember asking my dad to play the song > over and over again. We didn't have cd players back then so my mom who sat > on the passenger seat in front, would religiously rewind the cassette to > play the song. No one complained though. It seemed that everyone was in love > with the song. Another song that I fell in love on the first instance was > Kannalane from Bombay. We were supposed to perform a dance for a school > concert and one of my friends suggested we dance for this song- she called > it the "Bombay song", so naturally I thought it was a hindi or a bhangra > number that we were supposed to perform to. Imagine my surprise when she > played the Kannalane on the cassette player. The opening chorus itself was > so beautiful and magical that I just sat in front of the radio listening to > the whole song. We never got to perform the dance though. The school concert > had to be cancelled at the last moment for some reasons, but the song > remained closed to my heart. > > Over the years, we see that ARR's music has gone through a steady and > wonderful evolvement. Though all of us are genuinely happy to see his growth > and achievement, there's always a part of us that want ARR to remain where > he was earlier, the ARR we fell in love with in the 90's. We want him to > invoke the same magic he gave us back then, but it's just not possible. > > I remember reading Rawat's mail sometime back where he said that ARR's > music seem unique earlier but the uniqueness has withered over the years as > we have been hearing to the style all these years. I agree with him. When > Roja, Bombay of Minsara Kanavu came, the songs seem so unique to me because > I've never heard them before. The magic he invoked through the tiny sounds, > the multi-layered music, the grand chorus was so uniquely Rahman. That > uniqueness was what drew me to his music and I began to hear all his songs > knowing very well there's a surprise for me somewhere. Today, I can
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That is a very well-thought and genuine article you have there Roshan. You know, I was just about to write a similar piece myself but you beat me to it! ;)) Glad you did, it was just wonderful to read them. On a further note, I wish to state a few points myself with regards to this issue and hope you don't mind me sharing your space here. (P.S: This is a long mail. You have the choice of deleting this mail this very moment if you want :)) Don't tell me that I didn't warn you!) I do agree with Roshan that ARR's 90's numbers would trigger a wonderful memory in each of our minds and that's what makes them to be so special. But more than the memories associated with the songs, it's also the music themselves which we find to be explicitly wonderful and fresh. When Roja happened, I was barely 9 years old. Til' then, film songs have failed to invoke any sort of feelings in me and I grew up to believe that songs are there for the sole purpose to prove that actors can dance and sing (yes, I was gullible enough to believe that actors sing themselves in films then). But it was only through Roja that I finally understood the impact that film music has on its listeners. The first time I saw the opening chasing scene in Roja, I could hardly understand what was going on. Everything was so blue in color and I had no clue who was chasing whom. And yet, my heart was thumping so fast...as fast as the music in the background. It was through the music that I knew how intense the whole sequence was. It was also the first time I noticed the impact that a bgm has on a scene. The subsequent scene that followed was the opening number, Chinna Chinna Aasai. And though ARR went on to compose many wonderful songs after this, Chinna Chinna Aasai remained as my favorite til date. Remember the prelude that accompanied the rising of the sun in the song? The tune was so authentic that I often believed that a sunrise would sound just like that. Even today, whenever I get the oppurtunity to watch a sunrise, the prelude would automatically play in my mind. That was just a small example of the impact that ARR's music had on me. Over the years, I grew up to listen and fall in love with many songs, some of them I loved even without knowing that ARR composed the same. One such song was Pattampoochi Parakum from Puthiya Manargal. I first heard this song when my family and I were going on a long drive and the song was being played on the car stereo. I didn't know who was the Music Director then, but I just fell in love with the song the very moment I heard it. There was something very grand and catchy in the tune, especially the chorus, that you just wanna sing along with it. I remember asking my dad to play the song over and over again. We didn't have cd players back then so my mom who sat on the passenger seat in front, would religiously rewind the cassette to play the song. No one complained though. It seemed that everyone was in love with the song. Another song that I fell in love on the first instance was Kannalane from Bombay. We were supposed to perform a dance for a school concert and one of my friends suggested we dance for this song- she called it the "Bombay song", so naturally I thought it was a hindi or a bhangra number that we were supposed to perform to. Imagine my surprise when she played the Kannalane on the cassette player. The opening chorus itself was so beautiful and magical that I just sat in front of the radio listening to the whole song. We never got to perform the dance though. The school concert had to be cancelled at the last moment for some reasons, but the song remained closed to my heart. Over the years, we see that ARR's music has gone through a steady and wonderful evolvement. Though all of us are genuinely happy to see his growth and achievement, there's always a part of us that want ARR to remain where he was earlier, the ARR we fell in love with in the 90's. We want him to invoke the same magic he gave us back then, but it's just not possible. I remember reading Rawat's mail sometime back where he said that ARR's music seem unique earlier but the uniqueness has withered over the years as we have been hearing to the style all these years. I agree with him. When Roja, Bombay of Minsara Kanavu came, the songs seem so unique to me because I've never heard them before. The magic he invoked through the tiny sounds, the multi-layered music, the grand chorus was so uniquely Rahman. That uniqueness was what drew me to his music and I began to hear all his songs knowing very well there's a surprise for me somewhere. Today, I can guess ARR's number the instant I hear them. The ARR's stamp has been embeded in my mind and heart that I can guess ARR's songs through the sounds. Music has gone through drastic changes over the years. Kids who love Aye Bachchu might not find Rangela Re tasteful. Why, even my nephew who loves Beera Beera and now Jai Ho, fails to understand why I keep Chaiya Chaiya and Chikku Bukku Rayilu in
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why are u being sarcastic to him nowbe the change that u want to see. --- On Sun, 8/22/10, mohammed sajin wrote: From: mohammed sajin Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Why the past songs are better To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 11:09 PM Sign of change!!! From: kishore parayath To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 4:59:39 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Why the past songs are better Well AR RAHMAN of the 2000's is never inferior to the AR RAHMAN of the 90's... He had exceptional works like Kannathil Muthamittaal, Boys, Rang De Basanti, Kangalal Kaidhu Sei and Jillenu Oru Kadhal. Also, tracks like Rehnuma from BLUE, match his Thiruda THiruda-Rangeela levels... Couples Retreat was also excellent.. THen different ppl have different favourites. For me, I love the sounds in Endhiran, but Iam unable to find soul. But many ppl in the group were lucky to find soul in Endhiran. Then, from Sivaji, Oru Koodai and Sahana are my only favourite songs. Whereas that is not the case of others. My all-time favourite is thiruda thiruda. Thatz not the case of all. So it all depends and varies on tastes.That is what makes our BOSS great. There are many ppl in India with totally different tastes.. But they unite under one umbrella and call themselves Rahmaniacs. Y...Because ARR is great enough to cater to a wide range of audience. Saying ARR of the 90's was better than ARR of the 2000's is not right. According to meARR till 2006 is better than ARR after 2006 (atleast for Indian assignments)..And that maybe jst for me.
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Sign of change!!! From: kishore parayath To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 4:59:39 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Why the past songs are better Well AR RAHMAN of the 2000's is never inferior to the AR RAHMAN of the 90's... He had exceptional works like Kannathil Muthamittaal, Boys, Rang De Basanti, Kangalal Kaidhu Sei and Jillenu Oru Kadhal. Also, tracks like Rehnuma from BLUE, match his Thiruda THiruda-Rangeela levels... Couples Retreat was also excellent.. THen different ppl have different favourites. For me, I love the sounds in Endhiran, but Iam unable to find soul. But many ppl in the group were lucky to find soul in Endhiran. Then, from Sivaji, Oru Koodai and Sahana are my only favourite songs. Whereas that is not the case of others. My all-time favourite is thiruda thiruda. Thatz not the case of all. So it all depends and varies on tastes.That is what makes our BOSS great. There are many ppl in India with totally different tastes.. But they unite under one umbrella and call themselves Rahmaniacs. Y...Because ARR is great enough to cater to a wide range of audience. Saying ARR of the 90's was better than ARR of the 2000's is not right. According to meARR till 2006 is better than ARR after 2006 (atleast for Indian assignments)..And that maybe jst for me.
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You never want to come out of past..dont you? One side you say that ARR of 2000's is never inferior to ARR of 90's and still you keep the 90's albums as benchmarks.. btw.. @ Roshan..Excellent postloved reading it.. From: kishore parayath To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 6:29:39 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Why the past songs are better Well AR RAHMAN of the 2000's is never inferior to the AR RAHMAN of the 90's... He had exceptional works like Kannathil Muthamittaal, Boys, Rang De Basanti, Kangalal Kaidhu Sei and Jillenu Oru Kadhal. Also, tracks like Rehnuma from BLUE, match his Thiruda THiruda-Rangeela levels... Couples Retreat was also excellent.. THen different ppl have different favourites. For me, I love the sounds in Endhiran, but Iam unable to find soul. But many ppl in the group were lucky to find soul in Endhiran. Then, from Sivaji, Oru Koodai and Sahana are my only favourite songs. Whereas that is not the case of others. My all-time favourite is thiruda thiruda. Thatz not the case of all. So it all depends and varies on tastes.That is what makes our BOSS great. There are many ppl in India with totally different tastes.. But they unite under one umbrella and call themselves Rahmaniacs. Y...Because ARR is great enough to cater to a wide range of audience. Saying ARR of the 90's was better than ARR of the 2000's is not right. According to meARR till 2006 is better than ARR after 2006 (atleast for Indian assignments)..And that maybe jst for me.
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Well AR RAHMAN of the 2000's is never inferior to the AR RAHMAN of the 90's... He had exceptional works like Kannathil Muthamittaal, Boys, Rang De Basanti, Kangalal Kaidhu Sei and Jillenu Oru Kadhal. Also, tracks like Rehnuma from BLUE, match his Thiruda THiruda-Rangeela levels... Couples Retreat was also excellent.. THen different ppl have different favourites. For me, I love the sounds in Endhiran, but Iam unable to find soul. But many ppl in the group were lucky to find soul in Endhiran. Then, from Sivaji, Oru Koodai and Sahana are my only favourite songs. Whereas that is not the case of others. My all-time favourite is thiruda thiruda. Thatz not the case of all. So it all depends and varies on tastes.That is what makes our BOSS great. There are many ppl in India with totally different tastes.. But they unite under one umbrella and call themselves Rahmaniacs. Y...Because ARR is great enough to cater to a wide range of audience. Saying ARR of the 90's was better than ARR of the 2000's is not right. According to meARR till 2006 is better than ARR after 2006 (atleast for Indian assignments)..And that maybe jst for me.
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Great post, Roshan. You nailed it. Whether you like Rahman's songs from the past better than today is merely subjective, but as you said, also influenced by nostalgia and memory. Nostalgia and memory are big confounding variables when judging music from the past and comparing it to today's music. Great post. Enjoy reading your posts a lot. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan wrote: > > A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was better > in his 90s. Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from the > past. Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and singers. > > > But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past. it > is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling in > love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a great > friend.. the whole life. We always think that past was somehow better. We > are always worried about the future. don't we cherish memories from our > childhood and teenage ? It is the same with songs. when we hear an old > song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness that > we related to that particular song. > > Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine. there are plenty of > great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a > great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when > I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was > in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost > something but, in reality I haven't. > > I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot. it is a great song, musically. But > the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first > portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of > rangeela as a gift. I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular > kid because I had a walkman. lots of kids would come to our dormitory to > listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and > placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the > kids can hear it. I was so excited. because not only I got more friends, I > was doing something with electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and > connecting the wires to the speaker, making the sound go louder with just > one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was Einstein! > > now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that > cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers. > > We all talk about how great the classics were. we regard RD Burman, > Noushad, Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and > some people even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how > music has lost its soul. It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those > people related to their most cherished memories when they hear their > favorites. give today's music another 20 to 30 years and we will be > talking about how great the 2010's music were. > > It is same for AR Rahman. the reason why some of you think that ar rahman > created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or > children during that time and probably were having the greatest times of > your life. there were lots of things happening, experiencing new things.. > and probably ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when > you hear it now, you are taken back to that golden era of your life. > > > try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the soul. > it only means that you have grown up, you have become more experienced, > aged and wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense, just for > fun.). get into the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all can enjoy > the Kala Bandar and Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran. I bet you will. > > > sorry about the long post :) > > > --- > http://roshanravi.com > http://ramblingsoul.com > http://cssheaven.org >
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A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was better in his 90s. meant to say in the 90s.. not in his 90s.. lol On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Roshan wrote: > A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was > better in his 90s. Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from > the past. Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and > singers. > > But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past. > it is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling > in love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a > great friend.. the whole life. We always think that past was somehow > better. We are always worried about the future. don't we cherish memories > from our childhood and teenage ? It is the same with songs. when we hear > an old song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness > that we related to that particular song. > > Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine. there are plenty of > great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a > great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when > I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was > in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost > something but, in reality I haven't. > > I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot. it is a great song, musically. But > the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first > portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of > rangeela as a gift. I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular > kid because I had a walkman. lots of kids would come to our dormitory to > listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and > placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the > kids can hear it. I was so excited. because not only I got more friends, I > was doing something with electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and > connecting the wires to the speaker, making the sound go louder with just > one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was Einstein! > > now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that > cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers. > > We all talk about how great the classics were. we regard RD Burman, > Noushad, Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and > some people even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how > music has lost its soul. It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those > people related to their most cherished memories when they hear their > favorites. give today's music another 20 to 30 years and we will be > talking about how great the 2010's music were. > > It is same for AR Rahman. the reason why some of you think that ar rahman > created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or > children during that time and probably were having the greatest times of > your life. there were lots of things happening, experiencing new things.. > and probably ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when > you hear it now, you are taken back to that golden era of your life. > > > try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the > soul. it only means that you have grown up, you have become more > experienced, aged and wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense, > just for fun.). get into the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all > can enjoy the Kala Bandar and Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran. I bet > you will. > > sorry about the long post :) > > > --- > http://roshanravi.com > http://ramblingsoul.com > http://cssheaven.org > > -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
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A R RAHMAN's music makes life utterly beautiful makes me absolutely cheerful , creates euphoric feelings in me just cant express the beauty of the feel that arouses in me , almost divine. i can be critically harsh but i love A R RAHMAN his music with me all my life till i live long live A R RAHMAN REGARDS, taimur --- On Mon, 8/9/10, Kalyan K wrote: From: Kalyan K Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Why ARR's music clicks ! and more.. To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 5:26 PM Yes...Rahman makes life beautiful for me too.. Kalyan K> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:01 PM, AJ wrote: Your words echo everything that I think about when it comes to ARR! Yes, it takes a lot of hard work to create music for films and it's too easy for someone to criticize it and not appreciate the creative thinking behind the product. I think intelligent criticism is ok if balanced with praise too. Some people act so entitled as if ARR owes them something... .their dream album.PLEASE! And you're right...ARR is one of the most daring and boldest composers too as his musical experiments are always risky, paving new musical directions, but much credit to him, they are usually very successful! And yes...Rahman makes life s beautiful for me too.. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "DineshVaidya" wrote: > > That is why I wrote this post, I couldn't digest some of the loose "critical" > analysis of Rahman's hard work on this group and thought the "HARD WORK" > behind ARR's efforts needs to be highlighted. > > It is extremely easy to make "pseudo-intellectual" remarks as to how ARR > should have or shouldn't have handled a particular song or album. But if the > critic himself is an artist or a performer or understands what goes into such > creative efforts, he will think again before making such baseless and loose > comments. > > It just takes few statements and fewer minutes to write such a review > critisizing ARR's work.. but prior to that it takes almost an year for > ARR to work on that creation. We should remember that and respect that. > > Artists, performers, composers don't have any benchmark as to what will click > and what will not unlike other professions. They are totally at sea as there > is no fixed formula to figure out if their creation will go down well or not. > > From that angle, having seen ARR's career right from day 1 ( that is Roja > ofcourse ) I am amazed at his ability to go against tide, ability to take > risks and his belief in his own strong points. > > Rahman will be credited with the unique distinction of changing the SOUND OF > INDIAN FILM MUSIC. Till he arrived, in "most" of the cases ( barring some > exceptions ofcourse ) film songs were used as a prop to fill up gaps in the > film or as a point where the audience could go out of theater and take fresh > air. Rahman made us fill up the theatre to soak in the beautiful melodies. > Rahman's songs enjoy the distinction as a LEAD HERO in any movie. For me, I > watch all movies in which ARR has scored because I want to experience the > magical sound of ARR. > > That is what clicks for Rahman and because of him LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL ! > > Jai HO ! > > Dinesh Vaidya > The Wandering Souls "Rahmania" > Pune > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Ravi Alagappan wrote: > > > > Feeling so good reading this mail thread, so many nice things about ARR. > > Reading mail threads of this kind, this is what I am here for > > > > Proud being ARR fan... > > >
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Yes...Rahman makes life beautiful for me too.. Kalyan K> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:01 PM, AJ wrote: > > > Your words echo everything that I think about when it comes to ARR! Yes, it > takes a lot of hard work to create music for films and it's too easy for > someone to criticize it and not appreciate the creative thinking behind the > product. I think intelligent criticism is ok if balanced with praise too. > Some people act so entitled as if ARR owes them somethingtheir dream > album.PLEASE! And you're right...ARR is one of the most daring and > boldest composers too as his musical experiments are always risky, paving > new musical directions, but much credit to him, they are usually very > successful! > > And yes...Rahman makes life s beautiful for me too.. > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > "DineshVaidya" wrote: > > > > That is why I wrote this post, I couldn't digest some of the loose > "critical" analysis of Rahman's hard work on this group and thought the > "HARD WORK" behind ARR's efforts needs to be highlighted. > > > > It is extremely easy to make "pseudo-intellectual" remarks as to how ARR > should have or shouldn't have handled a particular song or album. But if the > critic himself is an artist or a performer or understands what goes into > such creative efforts, he will think again before making such baseless and > loose comments. > > > > It just takes few statements and fewer minutes to write such a review > critisizing ARR's work.. but prior to that it takes almost an year for > ARR to work on that creation. We should remember that and respect that. > > > > Artists, performers, composers don't have any benchmark as to what will > click and what will not unlike other professions. They are totally at sea as > there is no fixed formula to figure out if their creation will go down well > or not. > > > > From that angle, having seen ARR's career right from day 1 ( that is Roja > ofcourse ) I am amazed at his ability to go against tide, ability to take > risks and his belief in his own strong points. > > > > Rahman will be credited with the unique distinction of changing the SOUND > OF INDIAN FILM MUSIC. Till he arrived, in "most" of the cases ( barring some > exceptions ofcourse ) film songs were used as a prop to fill up gaps in the > film or as a point where the audience could go out of theater and take fresh > air. Rahman made us fill up the theatre to soak in the beautiful melodies. > Rahman's songs enjoy the distinction as a LEAD HERO in any movie. For me, I > watch all movies in which ARR has scored because I want to experience the > magical sound of ARR. > > > > That is what clicks for Rahman and because of him LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL ! > > > > Jai HO ! > > > > Dinesh Vaidya > > The Wandering Souls "Rahmania" > > Pune > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > Ravi Alagappan wrote: > > > > > > Feeling so good reading this mail thread, so many nice things about > ARR. > > > Reading mail threads of this kind, this is what I am here for > > > > > > Proud being ARR fan... > > > > > > > >
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Guys, What to say...whenever I listen to ARR's songs in high volume my brother comes and reduces the volume. He is not generally listening to any of songs. But these days he plays only ENDHIRAN songs and in hight volume. I can see everyone playing endhiran songs on their phone while going on road, buses, train everywhereI'm feeling happy to see this. Finally, it got the reach every one of ARR's albums suppose to get.:) Feel like everyone is listening to my own tunes...thats the feel of Rahmanic :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, chandrasekaran guruprasad wrote: > > U can add the below points also > 1. His movies will have atleast one tempo cum beat songs like ranja ranja in > ravan, maham maye in puli, kilimanjaro in endhiran , etc > 2. He always gives importance for instruments, sound > engineers, and musicians. Thereforth giving unique and creative sounds >  > 3. Introducing and encouraging new singers (from minmini in roja to kathija > in endhiran), treating all technicians equally,,, >  > 4. Re-recording and BGM always goes with songs and story theme... >  > 5. His own singing. humming, gives more pleasantness  to the album > especially for his fans like me. >  > 6.Last but not the least, His spiritual aspiration and Humbleness makes not > only his music number one but also his life more succesful... i pray to god > that his winning destination should be infinite...   > > --- On Sat, 8/7/10, AJ wrote: > > > From: AJ > Subject: [arr] Re: Why ARR's music clicks ! > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 10:50 PM > > >  > > > > Dinesh, you covered all the important points!!! Great analysis Totally > agree > > For me, his music makes me feel things that no other musician or artist can > make me feel. I think his music comes down to emotionsbeyond > wizzardry, technical geniusit's the feelings generated within the > listener that are most important and to me is the number one reason why ARR's > music is such a global ragehis music is full of concentrated emotions and > touches your heart. So, I would say points 7 and 8 in your list are the main > reasons why his music is so loved throughout the world. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "DineshVaidya" wrote: > > > > Instead of trying to be the JUDGE of ARR's hardwork as some of us are > > doing, i will try to look into various reasons which makes ARR's music > > click always. Do add your points if you have your own reasons / analysis > > > > 1. ARR is constantly trying new Genre for his music as diverse as Spanish > > (Latin), Arabic, folk, classical,... & & . He has not typecasted > > himself into only one or two genre. > > 2. His music is layered, multyphonic and not just stereo so everytime I > > listen the songs, I find something new. He does not follow a fixed pattern, > > his music is more like Jazz. > > 3. He gives chance to fresh talent, is not afraid of trying new voice or > > instruments so each song has a distinct identity and there is no > > repetitiveness. > > 4. He works hard on his typical sound "Rahman sound" so whennever I hear > > even a bit of his song somewhere, there is instant recollection. > > 5. He is a genuinely talented and humble fellow who minds his own work and > > stays into his core area of competence. So you don't associate ARR with > > controversies. > > 6. He listens to feedback especially from fans and ( I am told ) takes > > corrective actions if required. > > 7. His songs ( not all, but most of them ) have a touch of sadness / a hint > > of melancholy and that is something unique, it makes his music very very > > special. > > 8. Being a spiritual person, he structures his music on spirituality and > > thus it goes straight to heart. > > > > What's your view ? > > > > Jai HO ! > > > > Dinesh Vaidya > > The Wandering Souls "Rahmania" > > Pune > > >
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Your words echo everything that I think about when it comes to ARR! Yes, it takes a lot of hard work to create music for films and it's too easy for someone to criticize it and not appreciate the creative thinking behind the product. I think intelligent criticism is ok if balanced with praise too. Some people act so entitled as if ARR owes them somethingtheir dream album.PLEASE! And you're right...ARR is one of the most daring and boldest composers too as his musical experiments are always risky, paving new musical directions, but much credit to him, they are usually very successful! And yes...Rahman makes life s beautiful for me too.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "DineshVaidya" wrote: > > That is why I wrote this post, I couldn't digest some of the loose "critical" > analysis of Rahman's hard work on this group and thought the "HARD WORK" > behind ARR's efforts needs to be highlighted. > > It is extremely easy to make "pseudo-intellectual" remarks as to how ARR > should have or shouldn't have handled a particular song or album. But if the > critic himself is an artist or a performer or understands what goes into such > creative efforts, he will think again before making such baseless and loose > comments. > > It just takes few statements and fewer minutes to write such a review > critisizing ARR's work.. but prior to that it takes almost an year for > ARR to work on that creation. We should remember that and respect that. > > Artists, performers, composers don't have any benchmark as to what will click > and what will not unlike other professions. They are totally at sea as there > is no fixed formula to figure out if their creation will go down well or not. > > From that angle, having seen ARR's career right from day 1 ( that is Roja > ofcourse ) I am amazed at his ability to go against tide, ability to take > risks and his belief in his own strong points. > > Rahman will be credited with the unique distinction of changing the SOUND OF > INDIAN FILM MUSIC. Till he arrived, in "most" of the cases ( barring some > exceptions ofcourse ) film songs were used as a prop to fill up gaps in the > film or as a point where the audience could go out of theater and take fresh > air. Rahman made us fill up the theatre to soak in the beautiful melodies. > Rahman's songs enjoy the distinction as a LEAD HERO in any movie. For me, I > watch all movies in which ARR has scored because I want to experience the > magical sound of ARR. > > That is what clicks for Rahman and because of him LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL ! > > Jai HO ! > > Dinesh Vaidya > The Wandering Souls "Rahmania" > Pune > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Alagappan wrote: > > > > Feeling so good reading this mail thread, so many nice things about ARR. > > Reading mail threads of this kind, this is what I am here for > > > > Proud being ARR fan... > > >
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Very happy to read the msg.. excellent dinesh Ji -- "Friendship is not about finding the right person, but creating the right relationship. Its not how much we care in the beginning, but how much we care till the end". Sirish Musician.
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That is why I wrote this post, I couldn't digest some of the loose "critical" analysis of Rahman's hard work on this group and thought the "HARD WORK" behind ARR's efforts needs to be highlighted. It is extremely easy to make "pseudo-intellectual" remarks as to how ARR should have or shouldn't have handled a particular song or album. But if the critic himself is an artist or a performer or understands what goes into such creative efforts, he will think again before making such baseless and loose comments. It just takes few statements and fewer minutes to write such a review critisizing ARR's work.. but prior to that it takes almost an year for ARR to work on that creation. We should remember that and respect that. Artists, performers, composers don't have any benchmark as to what will click and what will not unlike other professions. They are totally at sea as there is no fixed formula to figure out if their creation will go down well or not. >From that angle, having seen ARR's career right from day 1 ( that is Roja >ofcourse ) I am amazed at his ability to go against tide, ability to take >risks and his belief in his own strong points. Rahman will be credited with the unique distinction of changing the SOUND OF INDIAN FILM MUSIC. Till he arrived, in "most" of the cases ( barring some exceptions ofcourse ) film songs were used as a prop to fill up gaps in the film or as a point where the audience could go out of theater and take fresh air. Rahman made us fill up the theatre to soak in the beautiful melodies. Rahman's songs enjoy the distinction as a LEAD HERO in any movie. For me, I watch all movies in which ARR has scored because I want to experience the magical sound of ARR. That is what clicks for Rahman and because of him LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL ! Jai HO ! Dinesh Vaidya The Wandering Souls "Rahmania" Pune --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Alagappan wrote: > > Feeling so good reading this mail thread, so many nice things about ARR. > Reading mail threads of this kind, this is what I am here for > > Proud being ARR fan... >
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Feeling so good reading this mail thread, so many nice things about ARR. Reading mail threads of this kind, this is what I am here for Proud being ARR fan... On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:27 AM, AJ wrote: > > > ARR has a very unique combination of personal qualities and talents that > simply no other musician has ever had or ever will. There is only one ARR > and there will never be another ARRtalented and impactful musicians and > composers...yesbut never again like ARR. > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > Kalyan K wrote: > > > > Dinesh and AJ, Beautiful and true observations indeed. Adding to your > > observations, i think AR was able to churn out such a magical music > mainly > > due to technical brilliance and most importantly due to his personal > > qualities like humbleness, spirtuality, humility, surrendering himself to > > God etc. Thats the reason, his music always touches the heart. I dont > > think anyone in this world , can produce music which touches the heart, > even > > though that person is technically exceptional. > > > > Kalyan K. > > > > On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:50 PM, AJ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dinesh, you covered all the important points!!! Great analysis > Totally > > > agree > > > > > > For me, his music makes me feel things that no other musician or artist > can > > > make me feel. I think his music comes down to emotionsbeyond > > > wizzardry, technical geniusit's the feelings generated within the > > > listener that are most important and to me is the number one reason why > > > ARR's music is such a global ragehis music is full of concentrated > > > emotions and touches your heart. So, I would say points 7 and 8 in your > list > > > are the main reasons why his music is so loved throughout the world. > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > "DineshVaidya" wrote: > > > > > > > > Instead of trying to be the JUDGE of ARR's hardwork as some of us are > > > doing, i will try to look into various reasons which makes ARR's music > click > > > always. Do add your points if you have your own reasons / analysis > > > > > > > > 1. ARR is constantly trying new Genre for his music as diverse as > Spanish > > > (Latin), Arabic, folk, classical,... & & . He has not typecasted > himself > > > into only one or two genre. > > > > 2. His music is layered, multyphonic and not just stereo so everytime > I > > > listen the songs, I find something new. He does not follow a fixed > pattern, > > > his music is more like Jazz. > > > > 3. He gives chance to fresh talent, is not afraid of trying new voice > or > > > instruments so each song has a distinct identity and there is no > > > repetitiveness. > > > > 4. He works hard on his typical sound "Rahman sound" so whennever I > hear > > > even a bit of his song somewhere, there is instant recollection. > > > > 5. He is a genuinely talented and humble fellow who minds his own > work > > > and stays into his core area of competence. So you don't associate ARR > with > > > controversies. > > > > 6. He listens to feedback especially from fans and ( I am told ) > takes > > > corrective actions if required. > > > > 7. His songs ( not all, but most of them ) have a touch of sadness / > a > > > hint of melancholy and that is something unique, it makes his music > very > > > very special. > > > > 8. Being a spiritual person, he structures his music on spirituality > and > > > thus it goes straight to heart. > > > > > > > > What's your view ? > > > > > > > > Jai HO ! > > > > > > > > Dinesh Vaidya > > > > The Wandering Souls "Rahmania" > > > > Pune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Very apt observations indeed! They reflect what we feel about his music. The other point I would like to mention is that he literally makes music speak for itself. So even for those who do not understand the words, it's a complete experience. You never feel like you are missing anything and can interpret it your own way. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Kalyan K wrote: > > Dinesh and AJ, Beautiful and true observations indeed. Adding to your > observations, i think AR was able to churn out such a magical music mainly > due to technical brilliance and most importantly due to his personal > qualities like humbleness, spirtuality, humility, surrendering himself to > God etc. Thats the reason, his music always touches the heart. I dont > think anyone in this world , can produce music which touches the heart, even > though that person is technically exceptional. > > Kalyan K. > > On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:50 PM, AJ wrote: > > > > > > > Dinesh, you covered all the important points!!! Great analysis Totally > > agree > > > > For me, his music makes me feel things that no other musician or artist can > > make me feel. I think his music comes down to emotionsbeyond > > wizzardry, technical geniusit's the feelings generated within the > > listener that are most important and to me is the number one reason why > > ARR's music is such a global ragehis music is full of concentrated > > emotions and touches your heart. So, I would say points 7 and 8 in your list > > are the main reasons why his music is so loved throughout the world. > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > > "DineshVaidya" wrote: > > > > > > Instead of trying to be the JUDGE of ARR's hardwork as some of us are > > doing, i will try to look into various reasons which makes ARR's music click > > always. Do add your points if you have your own reasons / analysis > > > > > > 1. ARR is constantly trying new Genre for his music as diverse as Spanish > > (Latin), Arabic, folk, classical,... & & . He has not typecasted himself > > into only one or two genre. > > > 2. His music is layered, multyphonic and not just stereo so everytime I > > listen the songs, I find something new. He does not follow a fixed pattern, > > his music is more like Jazz. > > > 3. He gives chance to fresh talent, is not afraid of trying new voice or > > instruments so each song has a distinct identity and there is no > > repetitiveness. > > > 4. He works hard on his typical sound "Rahman sound" so whennever I hear > > even a bit of his song somewhere, there is instant recollection. > > > 5. He is a genuinely talented and humble fellow who minds his own work > > and stays into his core area of competence. So you don't associate ARR with > > controversies. > > > 6. He listens to feedback especially from fans and ( I am told ) takes > > corrective actions if required. > > > 7. His songs ( not all, but most of them ) have a touch of sadness / a > > hint of melancholy and that is something unique, it makes his music very > > very special. > > > 8. Being a spiritual person, he structures his music on spirituality and > > thus it goes straight to heart. > > > > > > What's your view ? > > > > > > Jai HO ! > > > > > > Dinesh Vaidya > > > The Wandering Souls "Rahmania" > > > Pune > > > > > > > > > >
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ARR has a very unique combination of personal qualities and talents that simply no other musician has ever had or ever will. There is only one ARR and there will never be another ARRtalented and impactful musicians and composers...yesbut never again like ARR. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Kalyan K wrote: > > Dinesh and AJ, Beautiful and true observations indeed. Adding to your > observations, i think AR was able to churn out such a magical music mainly > due to technical brilliance and most importantly due to his personal > qualities like humbleness, spirtuality, humility, surrendering himself to > God etc. Thats the reason, his music always touches the heart. I dont > think anyone in this world , can produce music which touches the heart, even > though that person is technically exceptional. > > Kalyan K. > > On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:50 PM, AJ wrote: > > > > > > > Dinesh, you covered all the important points!!! Great analysis Totally > > agree > > > > For me, his music makes me feel things that no other musician or artist can > > make me feel. I think his music comes down to emotionsbeyond > > wizzardry, technical geniusit's the feelings generated within the > > listener that are most important and to me is the number one reason why > > ARR's music is such a global ragehis music is full of concentrated > > emotions and touches your heart. So, I would say points 7 and 8 in your list > > are the main reasons why his music is so loved throughout the world. > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > > "DineshVaidya" wrote: > > > > > > Instead of trying to be the JUDGE of ARR's hardwork as some of us are > > doing, i will try to look into various reasons which makes ARR's music click > > always. Do add your points if you have your own reasons / analysis > > > > > > 1. ARR is constantly trying new Genre for his music as diverse as Spanish > > (Latin), Arabic, folk, classical,... & & . He has not typecasted himself > > into only one or two genre. > > > 2. His music is layered, multyphonic and not just stereo so everytime I > > listen the songs, I find something new. He does not follow a fixed pattern, > > his music is more like Jazz. > > > 3. He gives chance to fresh talent, is not afraid of trying new voice or > > instruments so each song has a distinct identity and there is no > > repetitiveness. > > > 4. He works hard on his typical sound "Rahman sound" so whennever I hear > > even a bit of his song somewhere, there is instant recollection. > > > 5. He is a genuinely talented and humble fellow who minds his own work > > and stays into his core area of competence. So you don't associate ARR with > > controversies. > > > 6. He listens to feedback especially from fans and ( I am told ) takes > > corrective actions if required. > > > 7. His songs ( not all, but most of them ) have a touch of sadness / a > > hint of melancholy and that is something unique, it makes his music very > > very special. > > > 8. Being a spiritual person, he structures his music on spirituality and > > thus it goes straight to heart. > > > > > > What's your view ? > > > > > > Jai HO ! > > > > > > Dinesh Vaidya > > > The Wandering Souls "Rahmania" > > > Pune > > > > > > > > > >
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Dinesh and AJ, Beautiful and true observations indeed. Adding to your observations, i think AR was able to churn out such a magical music mainly due to technical brilliance and most importantly due to his personal qualities like humbleness, spirtuality, humility, surrendering himself to God etc. Thats the reason, his music always touches the heart. I dont think anyone in this world , can produce music which touches the heart, even though that person is technically exceptional. Kalyan K. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:50 PM, AJ wrote: > > > Dinesh, you covered all the important points!!! Great analysis Totally > agree > > For me, his music makes me feel things that no other musician or artist can > make me feel. I think his music comes down to emotionsbeyond > wizzardry, technical geniusit's the feelings generated within the > listener that are most important and to me is the number one reason why > ARR's music is such a global ragehis music is full of concentrated > emotions and touches your heart. So, I would say points 7 and 8 in your list > are the main reasons why his music is so loved throughout the world. > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > "DineshVaidya" wrote: > > > > Instead of trying to be the JUDGE of ARR's hardwork as some of us are > doing, i will try to look into various reasons which makes ARR's music click > always. Do add your points if you have your own reasons / analysis > > > > 1. ARR is constantly trying new Genre for his music as diverse as Spanish > (Latin), Arabic, folk, classical,... & & . He has not typecasted himself > into only one or two genre. > > 2. His music is layered, multyphonic and not just stereo so everytime I > listen the songs, I find something new. He does not follow a fixed pattern, > his music is more like Jazz. > > 3. He gives chance to fresh talent, is not afraid of trying new voice or > instruments so each song has a distinct identity and there is no > repetitiveness. > > 4. He works hard on his typical sound "Rahman sound" so whennever I hear > even a bit of his song somewhere, there is instant recollection. > > 5. He is a genuinely talented and humble fellow who minds his own work > and stays into his core area of competence. So you don't associate ARR with > controversies. > > 6. He listens to feedback especially from fans and ( I am told ) takes > corrective actions if required. > > 7. His songs ( not all, but most of them ) have a touch of sadness / a > hint of melancholy and that is something unique, it makes his music very > very special. > > 8. Being a spiritual person, he structures his music on spirituality and > thus it goes straight to heart. > > > > What's your view ? > > > > Jai HO ! > > > > Dinesh Vaidya > > The Wandering Souls "Rahmania" > > Pune > > > > >
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U can add the below points also 1. His movies will have atleast one tempo cum beat songs like ranja ranja in ravan, maham maye in puli, kilimanjaro in endhiran , etc 2. He always gives importance for instruments, sound engineers, and musicians. Thereforth giving unique and creative sounds 3. Introducing and encouraging new singers (from minmini in roja to kathija in endhiran), treating all technicians equally,,, 4. Re-recording and BGM always goes with songs and story theme... 5. His own singing. humming, gives more pleasantness to the album especially for his fans like me. 6.Last but not the least, His spiritual aspiration and Humbleness makes not only his music number one but also his life more succesful... i pray to god that his winning destination should be infinite... --- On Sat, 8/7/10, AJ wrote: From: AJ Subject: [arr] Re: Why ARR's music clicks ! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 10:50 PM Dinesh, you covered all the important points!!! Great analysis Totally agree For me, his music makes me feel things that no other musician or artist can make me feel. I think his music comes down to emotionsbeyond wizzardry, technical geniusit's the feelings generated within the listener that are most important and to me is the number one reason why ARR's music is such a global ragehis music is full of concentrated emotions and touches your heart. So, I would say points 7 and 8 in your list are the main reasons why his music is so loved throughout the world. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "DineshVaidya" wrote: > > Instead of trying to be the JUDGE of ARR's hardwork as some of us are doing, > i will try to look into various reasons which makes ARR's music click always. > Do add your points if you have your own reasons / analysis > > 1. ARR is constantly trying new Genre for his music as diverse as Spanish > (Latin), Arabic, folk, classical,... & & . He has not typecasted himself > into only one or two genre. > 2. His music is layered, multyphonic and not just stereo so everytime I > listen the songs, I find something new. He does not follow a fixed pattern, > his music is more like Jazz. > 3. He gives chance to fresh talent, is not afraid of trying new voice or > instruments so each song has a distinct identity and there is no > repetitiveness. > 4. He works hard on his typical sound "Rahman sound" so whennever I hear even > a bit of his song somewhere, there is instant recollection. > 5. He is a genuinely talented and humble fellow who minds his own work and > stays into his core area of competence. So you don't associate ARR with > controversies. > 6. He listens to feedback especially from fans and ( I am told ) takes > corrective actions if required. > 7. His songs ( not all, but most of them ) have a touch of sadness / a hint > of melancholy and that is something unique, it makes his music very very > special. > 8. Being a spiritual person, he structures his music on spirituality and thus > it goes straight to heart. > > What's your view ? > > Jai HO ! > > Dinesh Vaidya > The Wandering Souls "Rahmania" > Pune >
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Dinesh, you covered all the important points!!! Great analysis Totally agree For me, his music makes me feel things that no other musician or artist can make me feel. I think his music comes down to emotionsbeyond wizzardry, technical geniusit's the feelings generated within the listener that are most important and to me is the number one reason why ARR's music is such a global ragehis music is full of concentrated emotions and touches your heart. So, I would say points 7 and 8 in your list are the main reasons why his music is so loved throughout the world. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "DineshVaidya" wrote: > > Instead of trying to be the JUDGE of ARR's hardwork as some of us are doing, > i will try to look into various reasons which makes ARR's music click always. > Do add your points if you have your own reasons / analysis > > 1. ARR is constantly trying new Genre for his music as diverse as Spanish > (Latin), Arabic, folk, classical,... & & . He has not typecasted himself > into only one or two genre. > 2. His music is layered, multyphonic and not just stereo so everytime I > listen the songs, I find something new. He does not follow a fixed pattern, > his music is more like Jazz. > 3. He gives chance to fresh talent, is not afraid of trying new voice or > instruments so each song has a distinct identity and there is no > repetitiveness. > 4. He works hard on his typical sound "Rahman sound" so whennever I hear even > a bit of his song somewhere, there is instant recollection. > 5. He is a genuinely talented and humble fellow who minds his own work and > stays into his core area of competence. So you don't associate ARR with > controversies. > 6. He listens to feedback especially from fans and ( I am told ) takes > corrective actions if required. > 7. His songs ( not all, but most of them ) have a touch of sadness / a hint > of melancholy and that is something unique, it makes his music very very > special. > 8. Being a spiritual person, he structures his music on spirituality and thus > it goes straight to heart. > > What's your view ? > > Jai HO ! > > Dinesh Vaidya > The Wandering Souls "Rahmania" > Pune >
[arr] Re: Why Raavan's songs were not a waste of AR's efforts
Well said, buff! Ratnam gives Rahman's music the respect it deserves and more, in most if not all of their work together. They are unique and will remain in a special place in the history of Indian Cinema. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff wrote: > > This is partly in response to a comment on the TOI article about AR focussing > on > Hollywood only from now on (which I don't believe fully yet). The comment > said > how the reader was "disappointed with the fact that Mani Ratnam asked for 3-4 > tunes for the same lyric. Mani shud have first had a strong script and > screenplay before kicking off the movie. I personally think that Mani WASTED > rahman's time with the half-baked script of Raavan." > > My understanding was that AR gave most of his directors more than one tune to > choose from. And I remember AR mentioning at the audio release function of > Raavan that the music was put together quite quickly so I am baffled at this > article. > > And I am not sure I can say that music that comes from the Mani-ARR camp is > anyone's waste of time or effort. Raavan (despite its flaws) is a cinematic > masterpiece. The treatment of AR's songs in the movie was unique, beautiful > and > more importantly a vital part of the narration in many ocassions. > > For eg > > Behene De, a key moment in the narration. We are introduced to Raavan's > feelings > towards Ragini for the firt time and so is he. He is amazed, intrigued and > attracted. It is in this song that the two most important dialogues of the > movie are said. One where beera (in response to raagini's question about why > he > didn't kill her after she jumped off) tells Ragini that he was going to, but > that someone had re-written that piece of fate, unfortunately for him. And in > response to this Raagini tells him that to make a note now that how she will > be > the one responsible for his death, his fate- which was indeed the case at the > end of th movie (irrespective of the circumstances). > > Kalvare/Khille Re: An elegantly shot love song between a husband and his > wife. > Tastefully choreographed by Shobhana and again an important part of the > narration because it's the only time we get to see Ragini's relationship > with > Dev. She essentially is seducing him in the song and also there is a sense of > Ragini's god-like (blind) devotion to Dev. Again, a very important piece of > information for the movie's narration because it is the only window into the > Dev-Raagini relationship. > > The haunting Ranhja Ranjha in the movie was yet again a beautiful reflection > of > Raamayan. We see Ragini battling the demon in Ravana and trying to escape his > clutches. He never touches her. Only his hands run over her body as if > drawing > out her space. There is a lot of tension in that scene which can be > interpreted > in many ways. Again, lovely addition to the narration. > > Thok de is the only time we see that a strong sense of uprising amongst the > "lower caste" didn't only exhist amongst Beera and his family but amongst the > entire community of'Lal maati'. Again, a powerful addition to the narration. > > Kata Kata: The most significant moment in the movie forms the last part of > this > beautifully shot Mani Ratnam style wedding song. The song takes the audience > through both ends of the emotional spectrum, from the colourful and joyful > wedding processions to the cunning shooting of Beera which leads to the > series > of tragic incidents involving Jamuniya. > > Jaa Re - the killer track. Without this song, the climax of the movie would > be > half-dead. It evokes all the emotions that it should with the audience. The > freefall of Beera who dies (in his words) with immortal happiness. > > > I haven't commented on the cinematography of the songs since the scenes speak > for itself. So for me the entire Raavan soundtrack was used substatially in > the > movie to take the film forward. That's one of the biggest respect a musician > could get from his director. Without the songs, we would have no movie. Half > of > the narration was in fact in the movie. I'd rather have songs that > contribute > constructively to the narration like Raavan than those where you break into a > dream sequeance with a million dancers (however grand the scenaries are) to > start shaking your legs to AR's songs. The music and the master deserve much > more respect than that. >
[arr] Re: Why is it that there are no instrumentals in Raavan?
ARR always gives amazing instrumentals to Ashutosh Gowarikar's films, but yes, I do miss his instrumentals a lot in other films. Raavan badly needed a theme instrumental tracknot there. It was disappointing for me too. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Jahanzeb" wrote: > > Yeah me too feel the same. I was really expecting some instrumentals this > time. A Beera Theme or for the other two lead characters would have been > perfect. It seems ARR is not interested in instrumentals these days, perhaps > due to his busy schedule. Missing those good old days. > > /Jahanzeb > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > I recently watched this interview: > > http://ishare.rediff.com/video/Entertainment/Astaad-Deboo-on-choreographing-Ash-and-Abhishek-in-Ravan/676103 > > > > Astad Deboo choreographed a dance sequence that isnt a song as such. I > > think it could be an instrumental. And I still wonder.. why are > > instrumentals (or Theme Music) missing in this album, which appears to be > > having lot of room for a Theme. Something like Theme for each character > > (especially Raavan's character & Aishwarya Rai's character). Aishwarya Rai, > > i heard, plays a classical singer by the way. > > > > Regards > > Aakarsh > > > > > > >
[arr] Re: Why is it that there are no instrumentals in Raavan?
Yeah me too feel the same. I was really expecting some instrumentals this time. A Beera Theme or for the other two lead characters would have been perfect. It seems ARR is not interested in instrumentals these days, perhaps due to his busy schedule. Missing those good old days. /Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh wrote: > > Hi! > > I recently watched this interview: > http://ishare.rediff.com/video/Entertainment/Astaad-Deboo-on-choreographing-Ash-and-Abhishek-in-Ravan/676103 > > Astad Deboo choreographed a dance sequence that isnt a song as such. I think > it could be an instrumental. And I still wonder.. why are instrumentals (or > Theme Music) missing in this album, which appears to be having lot of room > for a Theme. Something like Theme for each character (especially Raavan's > character & Aishwarya Rai's character). Aishwarya Rai, i heard, plays a > classical singer by the way. > > Regards > Aakarsh > > >
[arr] Re: why low volume audio?
Depends on which mp3/rip or CD you are listening to. For example, On Bayshore CD (or its rip) of Thiruda Thiruda, you will get really bad volume but on earlier produced CD, you will get to listen to better audio. Same goes for other albums.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Devan" wrote: > > Old tamil soundtracks like thiruda thiruda, jeans, minsara kanavu have low > volume compared to the new sound tracks. Why this happened?? >
[arr] Re: Why RahmanSir Go to White House ?
rightly said raviexcellentinstead of mourningplz try to shw some courage...nobody here said that we all dint respect or paying attention to who has lost their lives in the terrorist attack.but at the same time,there is no point in mingling the terrrorist attack with ARR's visit to White house..i dunno why ,just an simple and proud matter becomes sentimental and being diverted to another level which is totally unnecessary..as Mr.ravi said.hoardings or banners cant stop terrorism...i find it absolute nonsense when people fight with hoardings when it"s absolutely a "culture" formed somewhere..what is the use did we ever find any PERMANENT solution for anything holding boards or displaying slogans...and please stop merging two unnecessary matters hereafter eventhough you want to spread social awareness or to dispaly any political or patriotic message..i welcome that ..but dont merge it with ARR's profile...Mr.santhoshkumar pandey.. i respect you for what you have done..but i think its an unnecessary post...NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE Vinoo From: ravi To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 26 November, 2009 6:19:19 PM Subject: [arr] Re: Why RahmanSir Go to White House ? Time is to show courage and not to mourn. Mourning can only bring distress and show how weak we are. AR has gone from representing love through his music. If love is in every heart there can be no fight and if no fight no terrorism. Isnt that we can think in a new dimension to solve a problem? Hoarding slogans cannot just bring peace it only requires understanding and goodwill between humans. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Santosh Pandey wrote: > > All dear, > On this time that CNN & America invitated the RahmanSir , When All > Indian are praying for great Indian die in fighting with Terrorists on 26 > nov..2008 in mumbai but Our Indian Prime minister gone to America , If in > American are Slauting & Praying for there man ,who die in World Trade centre > can Amercian President & any American Come in the ... See MoreIndian ,1st We > are Indian then any esle . I am not feeL proud that RahmanSir go to white > House on this time .All my RahmanFans can U thinks by ur Hreat when ur > country People are Praying For Great Indian who given there life for u that U > go freely & joy ur life in ur country .. Please all My RahmanFans Give Good > msg to this Worlds for Humantiy ,peace & love. > > Sir A R Rahman Library & Gallery > ( SantoshKumar Pandey ) > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. > http://in.yahoo. com/ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[arr] Re: Why RahmanSir Go to White House ?
Time is to show courage and not to mourn. Mourning can only bring distress and show how weak we are. AR has gone from representing love through his music. If love is in every heart there can be no fight and if no fight no terrorism. Isnt that we can think in a new dimension to solve a problem? Hoarding slogans cannot just bring peace it only requires understanding and goodwill between humans. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Santosh Pandey wrote: > > All dear, > On this time that CNN & America invitated the RahmanSir , When All > Indian are praying for great Indian die in fighting with Terrorists on 26 > nov..2008 in mumbai but Our Indian Prime minister gone to America , If in > American are Slauting & Praying for there man ,who die in World Trade centre > can Amercian President & any American Come in the ... See MoreIndian ,1st We > are Indian then any esle . I am not feeL proud that RahmanSir go to white > House on this time .All my RahmanFans can U thinks by ur Hreat when ur > country People are Praying For Great Indian who given there life for u that U > go freely & joy ur life in ur country .. Please all My RahmanFans Give Good > msg to this Worlds for Humantiy ,peace & love. > > Sir A R Rahman Library & Gallery > ( SantoshKumar Pandey ) > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. > http://in.yahoo.com/ >
Re: [arr] Re: why are you calling it a flop film? Be proud of ARR
On 10/14/2009 10:02 AM India Time, _coolwiz80_ wrote: > exactly dude.i dunno y people r callin it a flop film even before > watching it or even checking out the box office numbers. I personally have no problem taking CR to be a flop film on box office, or a badly made film. Sky is not falling if it is. ARR doesn't get blacklisted in the universe if one or more of his films are badly made or flop, just because ARR's music is good. In fact, it is a good thing if ARR's great music is the only thing that people find positive in such movies. I think members get unduly worried about films getting flop because ARR's earlier movies and his earlier music had got hit right from Roja, Humse Hai MUqabla, Rangeela, Bombay. So, we hope the same to happen in Hollywood. But remember that Amitabh bachchan had given 11 through and through flop films in a series before Zanjeer broke all record and set a new trend. So, don't get worried. ARR is out to change the entire culture of hollywood films. They are not giving much significance to music. It is upto ARR to change all that so that no hollywood film gets made without having 4-5 songs like bollywood is having. It is going to take time, but it will happen. ARR is capable of doing this wonder. He is out to teach to hollywood producers directors to respect music and give prominence to it. Hollywood audience are going to idolize ARR when this unchartered territory of music starts to enthrall them due to the efforts of ARR. Wait and Watch. -- Rawat > I watched it > and luved it..the problem is american comedies like these aint > popular in India as they're either too vulgar for our aam junta ( as > Moron Adarsh says ) or too stupid, but I totally luv movies of Vince, > Will Ferrell, Ben Stiller, Mike Myers..all of whose movies aren't > that popular in India, and most importantly they are easily money > spinners as they hav their section of fans. I was actually glad AR > Rahman chose this movie. So yes...all u guys stop complaining and > enjoy the rain...its pouring Rahmania here... > > Bulu > > Sirish > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "vimaljk" wrote: >> it opened as #1 in the US box office with over $30 million!it's >> the SECOND time a film with ARR's music has topped the US box >> office...be proud of ARR and stop complaining!...alsoif you >> have seen American comedies before...you should know by now how >> music is used in them (stop comparing everything to >> India!).usually it's very few original music cues and some pop >> songs >> >> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Madhavan Rajan >> wrote: >>> And why did Rahman accept this film as his first post-Oscars >>> project? >>> >>> May be just for the heck of it! >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:55 PM, mohammed sajin wrote: >>> >>> Rahman under-used in flop film Early this year, A R Rahman was discovered by Hollywood and America. He may have worked in the Indian film industry for nearly two decades, composing some of the most memorable songs of our time. But it took one film - Danny Boyle's Slumdog Millionaire for him to gain fame in the West. Now, after a couple of Oscars, a Golden Globe, television appearances and several articles, Rahman has bagged his first post-Slumdog project. Rahman has composed the soundtrack for a new film Couples Retreat, written by Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau, the writing-acting team that brought us hit films like Swingers, Iron Man, The Break Up and Wedding Crasher. Unfortunately, Couples Retreat � the story of four couples on a peculiar, new age-like retreat, trying to straighten out issues in their marriages � is a dull, unimpressive film. The dialogues are boring and it is mostly not funny. A still from Couples Retreat. A R Rahman has composed soundtrack for the movie That is too bad because with a cast that it has, Couples Retreat could have been a fun film for the fall season, just before the studios start to burden us with a deluge of the Oscar potential movies. Sometimes even films with a lot of promise do not work out. We can search for answers, but there is no sense in it. The film should do well in its opening weekend, the big name stars are a draw, and then it will disappear fast from the theatres. I went for the press screening of Couples Retreat because of A R Rahman. Having had a taste of his music in the US, from Andrew Lloyd Webber's Bombay Dreams, to slick stage shows and then hugging friends at a bar near Times Square when his Oscar wins were announced in February, this was the moment I was waiting for. This was going to be the mainstreaming of the genius musician. He had worked on this project for three months, first in London and then in Los Angeles. I spent some time listening to the film's soundtrack on its w
[arr] Re: why are you calling it a flop film? Be proud of ARR
exactly dude.i dunno y people r callin it a flop film even before watching it or even checking out the box office numbers. I watched it and luved it..the problem is american comedies like these aint popular in India as they're either too vulgar for our aam junta ( as Moron Adarsh says ) or too stupid, but I totally luv movies of Vince, Will Ferrell, Ben Stiller, Mike Myers..all of whose movies aren't that popular in India, and most importantly they are easily money spinners as they hav their section of fans. I was actually glad AR Rahman chose this movie. So yes...all u guys stop complaining and enjoy the rain...its pouring Rahmania here... Bulu Sirish --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "vimaljk" wrote: > > it opened as #1 in the US box office with over $30 million!it's the > SECOND time a film with ARR's music has topped the US box office...be proud > of ARR and stop complaining!...alsoif you have seen American comedies > before...you should know by now how music is used in them (stop comparing > everything to India!).usually it's very few original music cues and some > pop songs > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Madhavan Rajan wrote: > > > > And why did Rahman accept this film as his first post-Oscars project? > > > > May be just for the heck of it! > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:55 PM, mohammed sajin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Rahman under-used in flop film > > > > > > Early this year, A R Rahman was discovered by Hollywood and America. He > > > may > > > have worked in the Indian film industry for nearly two decades, composing > > > some of the most memorable songs of our time. But it took one film - Danny > > > Boyle's Slumdog Millionaire for him to gain fame in the West. > > > > > > Now, after a couple of Oscars, a Golden Globe, television appearances and > > > several articles, Rahman has bagged his first post-Slumdog project. Rahman > > > has composed the soundtrack for a new film Couples Retreat, written by > > > Vince > > > Vaughn and Jon Favreau, the writing-acting team that brought us hit films > > > like Swingers, Iron Man, The Break Up and Wedding Crasher. Unfortunately, > > > Couples Retreat the story of four couples on a peculiar, new age-like > > > retreat, trying to straighten out issues in their marriages is a dull, > > > unimpressive film. The dialogues are boring and it is mostly not funny. > > > > > >A still from Couples Retreat. A R Rahman has composed > > > soundtrack for the movie > > > That is too bad because with a cast that it has, Couples Retreat could > > > have > > > been a fun film for the fall season, just before the studios start to > > > burden > > > us with a deluge of the Oscar potential movies. Sometimes even films with > > > a > > > lot of promise do not work out. We can search for answers, but there is no > > > sense in it. The film should do well in its opening weekend, the big name > > > stars are a draw, and then it will disappear fast from the theatres. > > > > > > I went for the press screening of Couples Retreat because of A R Rahman. > > > Having had a taste of his music in the US, from Andrew Lloyd Webber's > > > Bombay > > > Dreams, to slick stage shows and then hugging friends at a bar near Times > > > Square when his Oscar wins were announced in February, this was the > > > moment I > > > was waiting for. This was going to be the mainstreaming of the genius > > > musician. He had worked on this project for three months, first in London > > > and then in Los Angeles. > > > > > > I spent some time listening to the film's soundtrack on its website. I > > > knew > > > that this was not going to be an Indian soundtrack. > > > > > > Rahman recently told the Associated Press that after Slumdog Millionaire, > > > he has started getting work where he can set his own artistic terms. > > > "Since > > > the Oscars and all the appreciation, people come for what I am," he said > > > in > > > the interview. Meanwhile, the online site OneIndia quoted the composer as > > > saying: "I've reached a stage where I've to do new things. There're so > > > many > > > avenues to be explored. So Couples Retreat will be their (Hollywood) kind > > > of > > > music with my touch, done in my way." > > > > > > The music, as we hear on the film's website, is mixed with Caribbean > > > sounds > > > (although most of the film is shot in the Pacific island Bora Bora), but > > > Rahman also uses some Indian touches, a few instruments and voices, > > > including that of Kailash Kher. > > > > > > The movie was unimaginative, but Rahman has often done great work for > > > films > > > that are flat out bad. If nothing else, we could say that the songs were > > > good. But while watching Couples Retreat, I forgot about Rahman's > > > compositions. It is so much in the background, that it is barely audible. > > > His music does nothing to enhance the situations in the film. It is a > > > complete waste. > > > > > > Last yea
[arr] Re: Why should we RIP bgms?
Its as good as asking AR to host an FTP site and compelling him to dump whatever he does. There are various dimensions to look at when it matters about original and ripping (pls dont use RIP) 1. Ripping is good as long as it is personal and not violating any Copyright acts. So if I have an original DVD and an authorized software to extract BGMs I should extract and keep it to myself. This is matter of legality 2. The other one is a bit practical when there are pirated DVDs already available sold in open market what more difference does it make to extract and publish. But question is about ethics. I prefer buying a pirated DVD only when the original is not available but I dont wish to publish it simple bcs I respect the copyright laws. On an other note I dont expect Gopal & Vijay to be compelled for this. Lets respect time of every individual. Yes its disheartening that we dont get each and every bit of AR's work. But whatever we get is not less in anyways to enjoy. With good valuable discussion happening hear I dont think I am missing anything. Well its also time consuming to search for such threads amongst several posts. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath wrote: > > Y shoud we RIP BGMs when ppl like GOPAL or VIJAY can directly get the > ORIGINALS in completely voiceless state from ARR??? > > I know, that many of the BGMs may become songs later, or extended as > instrumentals. But still, we are hearing them by RIPPING... So, Y not , we > choose the better to hear the ORIGINALS?? >
Re: [arr] Re: Why Ismail Darbar dislikes A.R.Rahman.. Truth is out!
It was actually the other way around. Ghai actually signed ARR for Kisna but due to his other commitments, ARR couldn't finish the project. He had only recorded 2 songs. Subash then opted for ID to do the rest of the work. The fact that ARR was the original composer and that he would be sharing the credits with ARR was well known to ID. Neverthless, he took up the project to "prove" that he's "better than ARR". Unfortunately for him, the movie flopped and so did his songs. The subsequent failure of Mehbooba and the rift between Bhansali and him did little to uplift his career. He seem contended being a judge for reality shows at the moment. --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Rivjot wrote: From: Rivjot Subject: [arr] Re: Why Ismail Darbar dislikes A.R.Rahman.. Truth is out! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 8:24 AM Considering how much he dislikes Rahman and later also said that his songs in Kisna were better than Rahman's.. he must have been very upset with sharing credits with ARR for Kisna. I guess it was just Ghai, who forced & badly wanted Rahman for at least 1-2 songs. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Gomzy™ wrote: > > strange ! Why did he he have to share music credits with AR for Kisna? > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Rivjot wrote: > > > > > > > Good to know this. If somebody else is chosen over you (as judge feels that > > he is better than you or can be better at this specific task), one should > > not have hard feelings (especially for years.. which turns into anger) as it > > works against you. > > > > Ramu's blog posts are always interesting to read. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com , > > "Din, D, Nesh" wrote: > > > > > > RGV blogs on what happened .. apparently, this is why Ismail has been > > really harsh to ARR > > > > > > > > > DUSTBIN FORTUNES > > > Both "Drohi" and the song bombed but because of that association my > > relationship with that lyric writer continued and whenever I was in Mumbai, > > me, the violin player and the lyric writer used to meet up once in a while > > and at that time I was just beginning to work on the idea of "Rangeela". > > When I mentioned the story to both of them, they got very excited and the > > violin player composed a tune for which the lyric writer wrote a song. I was > > very impressed with both and committed to both of them that they will be > > doing the music for "Rangeela". They were thrilled to bits. > > > > > > A few days later Maniratnam made me hear the songs of "Roja" at his home > > on Chennai and I was simply blown away with the orchestral brilliance of > > A.R.Rahman. I got too greedy and at any cost wanted to get that sound in my > > film and went back on my commitment to the violin player and signed Rahman > > instead, which understandingly left the violin player in a very angry and a > > heartbroken state. The lyric writer pleaded with me not to do that to his > > friend and I said it is just a professional decision in the best interest of > > the film. > > > > > > I spoke to Rahman about the lyric writer and told him that his first song > > didn't work but I do believe that he is very good. Rahman said, "If he is > > good enough for you he is good enough for me". > > > > > > Thus that lyric writer named Mehboob came into "Rangeela" minus the > > violin player and the first song he wrote was "Tanha Tanha". I played that > > song to Maniratnam and he was mighty impressed with the fact that he hasn't > > heard a song since a long time which didn't have the words dil, deewana and > > sanam and signed on Mehboob for "Bombay". > > > > > > With the super success of both "Bombay" and "Rangeela" Mehboob got a very > > big name and credibility and using that he recommended his closest friend > > the violin player to Sanjay Leela Bhansali who was looking for a new music > > director for "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" and thus was born Ismail Darbar. > > > > > > After the tremendous musical success of "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" which > > also timed with a couple of Rahman albums not doing well including my own > > "Daud" Ismail Darbar was the new musical genius on the block. I called > > Ismail Darbar up to congratulate him and he didn't pick up my calls. > > > > > > Later on Ismail gave an interview where he said that now that he is a > > success, everybody is calling him including Ramgopal Varma. That was > > obviously his revenge on the heartache I gave him by dumping him from > > "Rangeela". > > > > > > http://rgvzoomin. com/2009/ 10/07/dustbin- fortunes/ > > > > > > > > > >
[arr] Re: Why Ismail Darbar dislikes A.R.Rahman.. Truth is out!
Considering how much he dislikes Rahman and later also said that his songs in Kisna were better than Rahman's.. he must have been very upset with sharing credits with ARR for Kisna. I guess it was just Ghai, who forced & badly wanted Rahman for at least 1-2 songs. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy wrote: > > strange ! Why did he he have to share music credits with AR for Kisna? > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Rivjot wrote: > > > > > > > Good to know this. If somebody else is chosen over you (as judge feels that > > he is better than you or can be better at this specific task), one should > > not have hard feelings (especially for years.. which turns into anger) as it > > works against you. > > > > Ramu's blog posts are always interesting to read. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > > "Din, D, Nesh" wrote: > > > > > > RGV blogs on what happened.. apparently, this is why Ismail has been > > really harsh to ARR > > > > > > > > > DUSTBIN FORTUNES > > > Both "Drohi" and the song bombed but because of that association my > > relationship with that lyric writer continued and whenever I was in Mumbai, > > me, the violin player and the lyric writer used to meet up once in a while > > and at that time I was just beginning to work on the idea of "Rangeela". > > When I mentioned the story to both of them, they got very excited and the > > violin player composed a tune for which the lyric writer wrote a song. I was > > very impressed with both and committed to both of them that they will be > > doing the music for "Rangeela". They were thrilled to bits. > > > > > > A few days later Maniratnam made me hear the songs of "Roja" at his home > > on Chennai and I was simply blown away with the orchestral brilliance of > > A.R.Rahman. I got too greedy and at any cost wanted to get that sound in my > > film and went back on my commitment to the violin player and signed Rahman > > instead, which understandingly left the violin player in a very angry and a > > heartbroken state. The lyric writer pleaded with me not to do that to his > > friend and I said it is just a professional decision in the best interest of > > the film. > > > > > > I spoke to Rahman about the lyric writer and told him that his first song > > didn't work but I do believe that he is very good. Rahman said, "If he is > > good enough for you he is good enough for me". > > > > > > Thus that lyric writer named Mehboob came into "Rangeela" minus the > > violin player and the first song he wrote was "Tanha Tanha". I played that > > song to Maniratnam and he was mighty impressed with the fact that he hasn't > > heard a song since a long time which didn't have the words dil, deewana and > > sanam and signed on Mehboob for "Bombay". > > > > > > With the super success of both "Bombay" and "Rangeela" Mehboob got a very > > big name and credibility and using that he recommended his closest friend > > the violin player to Sanjay Leela Bhansali who was looking for a new music > > director for "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" and thus was born Ismail Darbar. > > > > > > After the tremendous musical success of "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" which > > also timed with a couple of Rahman albums not doing well including my own > > "Daud" Ismail Darbar was the new musical genius on the block. I called > > Ismail Darbar up to congratulate him and he didn't pick up my calls. > > > > > > Later on Ismail gave an interview where he said that now that he is a > > success, everybody is calling him including Ramgopal Varma. That was > > obviously his revenge on the heartache I gave him by dumping him from > > "Rangeela". > > > > > > http://rgvzoomin.com/2009/10/07/dustbin-fortunes/ > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [arr] Re: Why Ismail Darbar dislikes A.R.Rahman.. Truth is out!
strange ! Why did he he have to share music credits with AR for Kisna? On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Rivjot wrote: > > > Good to know this. If somebody else is chosen over you (as judge feels that > he is better than you or can be better at this specific task), one should > not have hard feelings (especially for years.. which turns into anger) as it > works against you. > > Ramu's blog posts are always interesting to read. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > "Din, D, Nesh" wrote: > > > > RGV blogs on what happened.. apparently, this is why Ismail has been > really harsh to ARR > > > > > > DUSTBIN FORTUNES > > Both "Drohi" and the song bombed but because of that association my > relationship with that lyric writer continued and whenever I was in Mumbai, > me, the violin player and the lyric writer used to meet up once in a while > and at that time I was just beginning to work on the idea of "Rangeela". > When I mentioned the story to both of them, they got very excited and the > violin player composed a tune for which the lyric writer wrote a song. I was > very impressed with both and committed to both of them that they will be > doing the music for "Rangeela". They were thrilled to bits. > > > > A few days later Maniratnam made me hear the songs of "Roja" at his home > on Chennai and I was simply blown away with the orchestral brilliance of > A.R.Rahman. I got too greedy and at any cost wanted to get that sound in my > film and went back on my commitment to the violin player and signed Rahman > instead, which understandingly left the violin player in a very angry and a > heartbroken state. The lyric writer pleaded with me not to do that to his > friend and I said it is just a professional decision in the best interest of > the film. > > > > I spoke to Rahman about the lyric writer and told him that his first song > didn't work but I do believe that he is very good. Rahman said, "If he is > good enough for you he is good enough for me". > > > > Thus that lyric writer named Mehboob came into "Rangeela" minus the > violin player and the first song he wrote was "Tanha Tanha". I played that > song to Maniratnam and he was mighty impressed with the fact that he hasn't > heard a song since a long time which didn't have the words dil, deewana and > sanam and signed on Mehboob for "Bombay". > > > > With the super success of both "Bombay" and "Rangeela" Mehboob got a very > big name and credibility and using that he recommended his closest friend > the violin player to Sanjay Leela Bhansali who was looking for a new music > director for "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" and thus was born Ismail Darbar. > > > > After the tremendous musical success of "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" which > also timed with a couple of Rahman albums not doing well including my own > "Daud" Ismail Darbar was the new musical genius on the block. I called > Ismail Darbar up to congratulate him and he didn't pick up my calls. > > > > Later on Ismail gave an interview where he said that now that he is a > success, everybody is calling him including Ramgopal Varma. That was > obviously his revenge on the heartache I gave him by dumping him from > "Rangeela". > > > > http://rgvzoomin.com/2009/10/07/dustbin-fortunes/ > > > > >
Re: [arr] Re: Why Ismail Darbar dislikes A.R.Rahman.. Truth is out!
Rangeela was released in 1995, while hum dil de chuke sanam got released in 1999. So, Ramu, when he had liked ID's compositions so much in 1994 could have taken him as MD in one or more films in these 4-5 years, as he is making a lot of movies and the target of his company is to release a new movie every Friday. If Ramu didn't think of taking ID as MD in 4-5 years, there ought to be more to this story than he is willing to share with us, primarily intended to present himself in a good light or at least in compulsion of circumstances. So, let's take all these comments in lighter vain and not form strong opinions about someone. ID is promising, sad that he hotheadedness is pulling him down. -- Rawat On 10/11/2009 4:25 AM India Time, _Rivjot_ wrote: > Good to know this. If somebody else is chosen over you (as judge feels that > he is better than you or can be better at this specific task), one should not > have hard feelings (especially for years.. which turns into anger) as it > works against you. > > Ramu's blog posts are always interesting to read. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Din, D, Nesh" > wrote: >> RGV blogs on what happened.. apparently, this is why Ismail has been >> really harsh to ARR >> >> >> DUSTBIN FORTUNES >> Both "Drohi" and the song bombed but because of that association my >> relationship with that lyric writer continued and whenever I was in Mumbai, >> me, the violin player and the lyric writer used to meet up once in a while >> and at that time I was just beginning to work on the idea of "Rangeela". >> When I mentioned the story to both of them, they got very excited and the >> violin player composed a tune for which the lyric writer wrote a song. I was >> very impressed with both and committed to both of them that they will be >> doing the music for "Rangeela". They were thrilled to bits. >> >> A few days later Maniratnam made me hear the songs of "Roja" at his home on >> Chennai and I was simply blown away with the orchestral brilliance of >> A.R.Rahman. I got too greedy and at any cost wanted to get that sound in my >> film and went back on my commitment to the violin player and signed Rahman >> instead, which understandingly left the violin player in a very angry and a >> heartbroken state. The lyric writer pleaded with me not to do that to his >> friend and I said it is just a professional decision in the best interest of >> the film. >> >> I spoke to Rahman about the lyric writer and told him that his first song >> didn't work but I do believe that he is very good. Rahman said, "If he is >> good enough for you he is good enough for me". >> >> Thus that lyric writer named Mehboob came into "Rangeela" minus the violin >> player and the first song he wrote was "Tanha Tanha". I played that song to >> Maniratnam and he was mighty impressed with the fact that he hasn't heard a >> song since a long time which didn't have the words dil, deewana and sanam >> and signed on Mehboob for "Bombay". >> >> With the super success of both "Bombay" and "Rangeela" Mehboob got a very >> big name and credibility and using that he recommended his closest friend >> the violin player to Sanjay Leela Bhansali who was looking for a new music >> director for "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" and thus was born Ismail Darbar. >> >> After the tremendous musical success of "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" which also >> timed with a couple of Rahman albums not doing well including my own "Daud" >> Ismail Darbar was the new musical genius on the block. I called Ismail >> Darbar up to congratulate him and he didn't pick up my calls. >> >> Later on Ismail gave an interview where he said that now that he is a >> success, everybody is calling him including Ramgopal Varma. That was >> obviously his revenge on the heartache I gave him by dumping him from >> "Rangeela". >> >> http://rgvzoomin.com/2009/10/07/dustbin-fortunes/
[arr] Re: Why Ismail Darbar dislikes A.R.Rahman.. Truth is out!
Good to know this. If somebody else is chosen over you (as judge feels that he is better than you or can be better at this specific task), one should not have hard feelings (especially for years.. which turns into anger) as it works against you. Ramu's blog posts are always interesting to read. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Din, D, Nesh" wrote: > > RGV blogs on what happened.. apparently, this is why Ismail has been > really harsh to ARR > > > DUSTBIN FORTUNES > Both "Drohi" and the song bombed but because of that association my > relationship with that lyric writer continued and whenever I was in Mumbai, > me, the violin player and the lyric writer used to meet up once in a while > and at that time I was just beginning to work on the idea of "Rangeela". When > I mentioned the story to both of them, they got very excited and the violin > player composed a tune for which the lyric writer wrote a song. I was very > impressed with both and committed to both of them that they will be doing the > music for "Rangeela". They were thrilled to bits. > > A few days later Maniratnam made me hear the songs of "Roja" at his home on > Chennai and I was simply blown away with the orchestral brilliance of > A.R.Rahman. I got too greedy and at any cost wanted to get that sound in my > film and went back on my commitment to the violin player and signed Rahman > instead, which understandingly left the violin player in a very angry and a > heartbroken state. The lyric writer pleaded with me not to do that to his > friend and I said it is just a professional decision in the best interest of > the film. > > I spoke to Rahman about the lyric writer and told him that his first song > didn't work but I do believe that he is very good. Rahman said, "If he is > good enough for you he is good enough for me". > > Thus that lyric writer named Mehboob came into "Rangeela" minus the violin > player and the first song he wrote was "Tanha Tanha". I played that song to > Maniratnam and he was mighty impressed with the fact that he hasn't heard a > song since a long time which didn't have the words dil, deewana and sanam and > signed on Mehboob for "Bombay". > > With the super success of both "Bombay" and "Rangeela" Mehboob got a very big > name and credibility and using that he recommended his closest friend the > violin player to Sanjay Leela Bhansali who was looking for a new music > director for "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" and thus was born Ismail Darbar. > > After the tremendous musical success of "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" which also > timed with a couple of Rahman albums not doing well including my own "Daud" > Ismail Darbar was the new musical genius on the block. I called Ismail Darbar > up to congratulate him and he didn't pick up my calls. > > Later on Ismail gave an interview where he said that now that he is a > success, everybody is calling him including Ramgopal Varma. That was > obviously his revenge on the heartache I gave him by dumping him from > "Rangeela". > > http://rgvzoomin.com/2009/10/07/dustbin-fortunes/ >
[arr] Re: Why Ismail Darbar dislikes A.R.Rahman.. Truth is out!
very interesting read. thanks for sharing. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Din, D, Nesh" wrote: > > RGV blogs on what happened.. apparently, this is why Ismail has been > really harsh to ARR > > > DUSTBIN FORTUNES > Both "Drohi" and the song bombed but because of that association my > relationship with that lyric writer continued and whenever I was in Mumbai, > me, the violin player and the lyric writer used to meet up once in a while > and at that time I was just beginning to work on the idea of "Rangeela". When > I mentioned the story to both of them, they got very excited and the violin > player composed a tune for which the lyric writer wrote a song. I was very > impressed with both and committed to both of them that they will be doing the > music for "Rangeela". They were thrilled to bits. > > A few days later Maniratnam made me hear the songs of "Roja" at his home on > Chennai and I was simply blown away with the orchestral brilliance of > A.R.Rahman. I got too greedy and at any cost wanted to get that sound in my > film and went back on my commitment to the violin player and signed Rahman > instead, which understandingly left the violin player in a very angry and a > heartbroken state. The lyric writer pleaded with me not to do that to his > friend and I said it is just a professional decision in the best interest of > the film. > > I spoke to Rahman about the lyric writer and told him that his first song > didn't work but I do believe that he is very good. Rahman said, "If he is > good enough for you he is good enough for me". > > Thus that lyric writer named Mehboob came into "Rangeela" minus the violin > player and the first song he wrote was "Tanha Tanha". I played that song to > Maniratnam and he was mighty impressed with the fact that he hasn't heard a > song since a long time which didn't have the words dil, deewana and sanam and > signed on Mehboob for "Bombay". > > With the super success of both "Bombay" and "Rangeela" Mehboob got a very big > name and credibility and using that he recommended his closest friend the > violin player to Sanjay Leela Bhansali who was looking for a new music > director for "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" and thus was born Ismail Darbar. > > After the tremendous musical success of "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" which also > timed with a couple of Rahman albums not doing well including my own "Daud" > Ismail Darbar was the new musical genius on the block. I called Ismail Darbar > up to congratulate him and he didn't pick up my calls. > > Later on Ismail gave an interview where he said that now that he is a > success, everybody is calling him including Ramgopal Varma. That was > obviously his revenge on the heartache I gave him by dumping him from > "Rangeela". > > http://rgvzoomin.com/2009/10/07/dustbin-fortunes/ >
[arr] Re: Why Ismail Darbar dislikes A.R.Rahman.. Truth is out!
I believe Ismail Durbar is a talented musician, but because of his bad temper and general hot headedness, he has not since matched the kind of success seen in HDCCS and Devdas. In fact, for both scores, I give equal credit to Sanjay Leela Bhansali's musical knowledge and sensibilities for these fantastic songs. Yeah, he probably has a right to be upset if that story is true, but again, I think his arrogance overall does him in. ARR, despite being so immensely successful, doesn't show one shred of arrogance to anyone, anywhere, anytime.which makes him truly legendary. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Din, D, Nesh" wrote: > > RGV blogs on what happened.. apparently, this is why Ismail has been > really harsh to ARR > > > DUSTBIN FORTUNES > Both "Drohi" and the song bombed but because of that association my > relationship with that lyric writer continued and whenever I was in Mumbai, > me, the violin player and the lyric writer used to meet up once in a while > and at that time I was just beginning to work on the idea of "Rangeela". When > I mentioned the story to both of them, they got very excited and the violin > player composed a tune for which the lyric writer wrote a song. I was very > impressed with both and committed to both of them that they will be doing the > music for "Rangeela". They were thrilled to bits. > > A few days later Maniratnam made me hear the songs of "Roja" at his home on > Chennai and I was simply blown away with the orchestral brilliance of > A.R.Rahman. I got too greedy and at any cost wanted to get that sound in my > film and went back on my commitment to the violin player and signed Rahman > instead, which understandingly left the violin player in a very angry and a > heartbroken state. The lyric writer pleaded with me not to do that to his > friend and I said it is just a professional decision in the best interest of > the film. > > I spoke to Rahman about the lyric writer and told him that his first song > didn't work but I do believe that he is very good. Rahman said, "If he is > good enough for you he is good enough for me". > > Thus that lyric writer named Mehboob came into "Rangeela" minus the violin > player and the first song he wrote was "Tanha Tanha". I played that song to > Maniratnam and he was mighty impressed with the fact that he hasn't heard a > song since a long time which didn't have the words dil, deewana and sanam and > signed on Mehboob for "Bombay". > > With the super success of both "Bombay" and "Rangeela" Mehboob got a very big > name and credibility and using that he recommended his closest friend the > violin player to Sanjay Leela Bhansali who was looking for a new music > director for "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" and thus was born Ismail Darbar. > > After the tremendous musical success of "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" which also > timed with a couple of Rahman albums not doing well including my own "Daud" > Ismail Darbar was the new musical genius on the block. I called Ismail Darbar > up to congratulate him and he didn't pick up my calls. > > Later on Ismail gave an interview where he said that now that he is a > success, everybody is calling him including Ramgopal Varma. That was > obviously his revenge on the heartache I gave him by dumping him from > "Rangeela". > > http://rgvzoomin.com/2009/10/07/dustbin-fortunes/ >
[arr] Re: Why should I buy Original CD's by paying ??
Excellen post, Pradeep!!! Well written and very true! If you like an album a lot, ALWAYS BUY THE ORIGINAL CD --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "pradeepanonline" wrote: > > Why should I buy original CD's ? > When the music is available to download free of cost, why should we buy > original CD. After all, ARR (or any other musician) is rich. he is not going > to be affected by some ppl not buying. Right ? > > ** WRONG ** > > The money that you spend for the CD is not just for the primary artist. think > about all the other artists working with him. And the countless number of > people involved in the music industry. Their livelihood depends on the bucks > that we consider to be saving by downloading for free. If we want to keep > getting better & better stuff in terms of technology, it all depends on > whether we buy or not. > > The money that we put is not just going to help the music industry. What goes > around comes around ! The whole economy is benefited. Imagine if someone > thinks you don't have to be paid for 10 minutes of your work-week. Think what > you are missing & how it will impact others. > > So please always buy Original CD's & thank God for helping you afford it. >
[arr] Re: Why Chiggy Wiggy is not a hit ?? - Read on my opinion
yeah what a lame picturization. it is hard to distinguish between this and thousands of other songs picturized in same fashion. such a great song deserved much more. also i think it should have been picturized in outdoors. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "ichord" wrote: > > I hope so, but unfortunately, from what I've seen, I didn't like the way they > picturized Fiqrana. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Niven" wrote: > > > > > > Trust me , wait for the film to go on screens and watch as BLUE dominates > > all charts.. even Chiggy wiggy. > > > > Niven > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, mohammed sajin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > Who told Chiggy Wiggy is not a hit??? > > > Actually this track is the biggest hit from this album. > > > > > > In UAE, whenever I turned on any radio channels, I can hear the song. > > > And even those peoples who are not aware of ARR songs knows it. > > > > > > I have one colleague, who always used to hear old songs. > > > but now most of the time he hums Chiggy Wiggy. > > > > > > Please don't call it as mediocre. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: V S Rawat > > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:34:12 PM > > > Subject: Re: [arr] Why Chiggy Wiggy is not a hit ?? - Read on my opinion > > > > > > > > > Well written, Vinod. All praises for your efforts. > > > > > > On the content of your review, I think Sonu might have got "scared" of > > > the "big budget" and "an international star" so he might have decided to > > > play it safe so that the burden of if the song flops doesn't come on his > > > shoulder, so he didn't experiment, didn't stretch him limits, and gave a > > > time tested often heard sound, as you said "artificial and make-believe" > > > that became his undoing in this song. > > > > > > I think the overall predictable progression of the song itself is > > > responsible for lackluster-ness of this song. So many songs like this > > > have been heard across decades that this entire concept of a > > > culture-clash culminating in local culture defeat the intruder, doesn't > > > excite the imagination any more. > > > > > > The concept itself doesn't gel with anything that ARR is known for. He > > > should not have got for a culture defeating another culture, but should > > > have gone for it to culminate in a synergy of the two cultures. > > > > > > -- > > > Rawat > > > > > > On 9/29/2009 12:49 PM India Time, _vinod sagar_ wrote: > > > > > > > Everyone here, including me, had some great expectations from Kylie & > > > > Rahman's collaboration and expected the song to be a hit. > > > > > > > > Though its unfair to expect a repeat of Chaiyya Chaiyya, which revived > > > > the career of Sukhvinder, still I expected something new > > > > > > > > I dared not to write any comment earlier, bcos I wanted ample time to > > > > get this song to grow on me, before I write anything... > > > > > > > > After all these days of listening , I have this opinion... just an > > > > opinion mind you... > > > > > > > > I think that the real culprit is Sonu Nigam !! His voice is so > > > > artificial and make-believe. .. yes I am using word artificial and > > > > make-believe. .. because listen to chiggy wiggy from 3:27 onwards > > > > you'll > > > > know what i mean... > > > > > > > > I found his voice more original in Satrangi re from 01:03 onwards... > > > > > > > > I strongly feel Daler Mehndi or Sukhvinder singh would have been a > > > > better choice.. maybe even KK... but not Sonu, his voice doesn't suit > > > > for this song !! > > > > > > > > The other reason is the rhythm (I dont know what they call it, beat, > > > > rhythm whatever) that Rahman has used, the one which has already been > > > > popular. Right from the beginning, whenever I listen to this song I > > > > feel > > > > like listening to Pritam's Zara Zara.. > > > > > > > > Chiggy Wiggy would have been a super-hit if it had been done before > > > > Zara > > > > Zara... Cos Zara Zara caught peoples imagination with the sensuous > > > > swaying of Katrina Kaif to the music of Pritam.. > > > > > > > > The next culprit is the sound quality, I think the recording engineer > > > > wanted the listener to hear all the sounds of the song at the same > > > > time... I feel that the sounds that were supposed to be in the > > > > background were brought forward along with all the percussions and the > > > > lead voices (This is the case with all the songs of Blue, H.Sridhar's > > > > loss is very evident here) .. it feels really horrible when listened on > > > > a high end sound system.. its even more horrible on small time audio > > > > systems, especially in office cabs !! > > > > > > > > Donno why, but after sonu's voice
Re: [arr] Re: Why Chiggy Wiggy is not a hit ?? - Read on my opinion
I think the Fiqrana video is more for promotional purposes only. I cannot see that fitting in a movie. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:46 PM, ichord wrote: > > > I hope so, but unfortunately, from what I've seen, I didn't like the way > they picturized Fiqrana. > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > "Niven" wrote: > > > > > > Trust me , wait for the film to go on screens and watch as BLUE dominates > all charts.. even Chiggy wiggy. > > > > Niven > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > mohammed sajin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > Who told Chiggy Wiggy is not a hit??? > > > Actually this track is the biggest hit from this album. > > > > > > In UAE, whenever I turned on any radio channels, I can hear the song. > > > And even those peoples who are not aware of ARR songs knows it. > > > > > > I have one colleague, who always used to hear old songs. > > > but now most of the time he hums Chiggy Wiggy. > > > > > > Please don't call it as mediocre. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: V S Rawat > > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:34:12 PM > > > Subject: Re: [arr] Why Chiggy Wiggy is not a hit ?? - Read on my > opinion > > > > > > > > > Well written, Vinod. All praises for your efforts. > > > > > > On the content of your review, I think Sonu might have got "scared" of > the "big budget" and "an international star" so he might have decided to > play it safe so that the burden of if the song flops doesn't come on his > shoulder, so he didn't experiment, didn't stretch him limits, and gave a > time tested often heard sound, as you said "artificial and make-believe" > that became his undoing in this song. > > > > > > I think the overall predictable progression of the song itself is > responsible for lackluster-ness of this song. So many songs like this have > been heard across decades that this entire concept of a culture-clash > culminating in local culture defeat the intruder, doesn't excite the > imagination any more. > > > > > > The concept itself doesn't gel with anything that ARR is known for. He > should not have got for a culture defeating another culture, but should have > gone for it to culminate in a synergy of the two cultures. > > > > > > -- > > > Rawat > > > > > > On 9/29/2009 12:49 PM India Time, _vinod sagar_ wrote: > > > > > > > Everyone here, including me, had some great expectations from Kylie & > > > > > Rahman's collaboration and expected the song to be a hit. > > > > > > > > Though its unfair to expect a repeat of Chaiyya Chaiyya, which > revived > > > > the career of Sukhvinder, still I expected something new > > > > > > > > I dared not to write any comment earlier, bcos I wanted ample time to > > > > > get this song to grow on me, before I write anything... > > > > > > > > After all these days of listening , I have this opinion... just an > > > > opinion mind you... > > > > > > > > I think that the real culprit is Sonu Nigam !! His voice is so > > > > artificial and make-believe. .. yes I am using word artificial and > > > > make-believe. .. because listen to chiggy wiggy from 3:27 onwards > you'll > > > > know what i mean... > > > > > > > > I found his voice more original in Satrangi re from 01:03 onwards... > > > > > > > > I strongly feel Daler Mehndi or Sukhvinder singh would have been a > > > > better choice.. maybe even KK... but not Sonu, his voice doesn't suit > > > > > for this song !! > > > > > > > > The other reason is the rhythm (I dont know what they call it, beat, > > > > rhythm whatever) that Rahman has used, the one which has already been > > > > > popular. Right from the beginning, whenever I listen to this song I > feel > > > > like listening to Pritam's Zara Zara.. > > > > > > > > Chiggy Wiggy would have been a super-hit if it had been done before > Zara > > > > Zara... Cos Zara Zara caught peoples imagination with the sensuous > > > > swaying of Katrina Kaif to the music of Pritam.. > > > > > > > > The next culprit is the sound quality, I think the recording engineer > > > > > wanted the listener to hear all the sounds of the song at the same > > > > time... I feel that the sounds that were supposed to be in the > > > > background were brought forward along with all the percussions and > the > > > > lead voices (This is the case with all the songs of Blue, H.Sridhar's > > > > > loss is very evident here) .. it feels really horrible when listened > on > > > > a high end sound system.. its even more horrible on small time audio > > > > systems, especially in office cabs !! > > > > > > > > Donno why, but after sonu's voice takes over the song, I couldnt help > > > > > but wanted the song to end quickly !!! And when the song ends, it > felt > > > > very peaceful, as if after the storm... > >
[arr] Re: Why Chiggy Wiggy is not a hit ?? - Read on my opinion
I hope so, but unfortunately, from what I've seen, I didn't like the way they picturized Fiqrana. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Niven" wrote: > > > Trust me , wait for the film to go on screens and watch as BLUE dominates all > charts.. even Chiggy wiggy. > > Niven > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, mohammed sajin wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > Who told Chiggy Wiggy is not a hit??? > > Actually this track is the biggest hit from this album. > > > > In UAE, whenever I turned on any radio channels, I can hear the song. > > And even those peoples who are not aware of ARR songs knows it. > > > > I have one colleague, who always used to hear old songs. > > but now most of the time he hums Chiggy Wiggy. > > > > Please don't call it as mediocre. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: V S Rawat > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:34:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [arr] Why Chiggy Wiggy is not a hit ?? - Read on my opinion > > > > > > Well written, Vinod. All praises for your efforts. > > > > On the content of your review, I think Sonu might have got "scared" of the > > "big budget" and "an international star" so he might have decided to play > > it safe so that the burden of if the song flops doesn't come on his > > shoulder, so he didn't experiment, didn't stretch him limits, and gave a > > time tested often heard sound, as you said "artificial and make-believe" > > that became his undoing in this song. > > > > I think the overall predictable progression of the song itself is > > responsible for lackluster-ness of this song. So many songs like this have > > been heard across decades that this entire concept of a culture-clash > > culminating in local culture defeat the intruder, doesn't excite the > > imagination any more. > > > > The concept itself doesn't gel with anything that ARR is known for. He > > should not have got for a culture defeating another culture, but should > > have gone for it to culminate in a synergy of the two cultures. > > > > -- > > Rawat > > > > On 9/29/2009 12:49 PM India Time, _vinod sagar_ wrote: > > > > > Everyone here, including me, had some great expectations from Kylie & > > > Rahman's collaboration and expected the song to be a hit. > > > > > > Though its unfair to expect a repeat of Chaiyya Chaiyya, which revived > > > the career of Sukhvinder, still I expected something new > > > > > > I dared not to write any comment earlier, bcos I wanted ample time to > > > get this song to grow on me, before I write anything... > > > > > > After all these days of listening , I have this opinion... just an > > > opinion mind you... > > > > > > I think that the real culprit is Sonu Nigam !! His voice is so > > > artificial and make-believe. .. yes I am using word artificial and > > > make-believe. .. because listen to chiggy wiggy from 3:27 onwards you'll > > > know what i mean... > > > > > > I found his voice more original in Satrangi re from 01:03 onwards... > > > > > > I strongly feel Daler Mehndi or Sukhvinder singh would have been a > > > better choice.. maybe even KK... but not Sonu, his voice doesn't suit > > > for this song !! > > > > > > The other reason is the rhythm (I dont know what they call it, beat, > > > rhythm whatever) that Rahman has used, the one which has already been > > > popular. Right from the beginning, whenever I listen to this song I feel > > > like listening to Pritam's Zara Zara.. > > > > > > Chiggy Wiggy would have been a super-hit if it had been done before Zara > > > Zara... Cos Zara Zara caught peoples imagination with the sensuous > > > swaying of Katrina Kaif to the music of Pritam.. > > > > > > The next culprit is the sound quality, I think the recording engineer > > > wanted the listener to hear all the sounds of the song at the same > > > time... I feel that the sounds that were supposed to be in the > > > background were brought forward along with all the percussions and the > > > lead voices (This is the case with all the songs of Blue, H.Sridhar's > > > loss is very evident here) .. it feels really horrible when listened on > > > a high end sound system.. its even more horrible on small time audio > > > systems, especially in office cabs !! > > > > > > Donno why, but after sonu's voice takes over the song, I couldnt help > > > but wanted the song to end quickly !!! And when the song ends, it felt > > > very peaceful, as if after the storm... > > > > > > I feel let down, when my colleagues at office talk abt chiggy wiggy and > > > compare it with Zara Zara... I realised that everyone feels that chiggy > > > wiggy is an extension of zara zara > > > > > > As for the sound quality of the songs in Blue... I have a high end audio > > > system in my car, with blaupunkt woofer(its awesome !) pioneer 2 din > > > head unit, blau
[arr] Re: Why Chiggy Wiggy is not a hit ?? - Read on my opinion
Trust me , wait for the film to go on screens and watch as BLUE dominates all charts.. even Chiggy wiggy. Niven --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, mohammed sajin wrote: > > > > Hello, > Who told Chiggy Wiggy is not a hit??? > Actually this track is the biggest hit from this album. > > In UAE, whenever I turned on any radio channels, I can hear the song. > And even those peoples who are not aware of ARR songs knows it. > > I have one colleague, who always used to hear old songs. > but now most of the time he hums Chiggy Wiggy. > > Please don't call it as mediocre. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: V S Rawat > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:34:12 PM > Subject: Re: [arr] Why Chiggy Wiggy is not a hit ?? - Read on my opinion > > > Well written, Vinod. All praises for your efforts. > > On the content of your review, I think Sonu might have got "scared" of the > "big budget" and "an international star" so he might have decided to play it > safe so that the burden of if the song flops doesn't come on his shoulder, so > he didn't experiment, didn't stretch him limits, and gave a time tested often > heard sound, as you said "artificial and make-believe" that became his > undoing in this song. > > I think the overall predictable progression of the song itself is responsible > for lackluster-ness of this song. So many songs like this have been heard > across decades that this entire concept of a culture-clash culminating in > local culture defeat the intruder, doesn't excite the imagination any more. > > The concept itself doesn't gel with anything that ARR is known for. He should > not have got for a culture defeating another culture, but should have gone > for it to culminate in a synergy of the two cultures. > > -- > Rawat > > On 9/29/2009 12:49 PM India Time, _vinod sagar_ wrote: > > > Everyone here, including me, had some great expectations from Kylie & > > Rahman's collaboration and expected the song to be a hit. > > > > Though its unfair to expect a repeat of Chaiyya Chaiyya, which revived > > the career of Sukhvinder, still I expected something new > > > > I dared not to write any comment earlier, bcos I wanted ample time to > > get this song to grow on me, before I write anything... > > > > After all these days of listening , I have this opinion... just an > > opinion mind you... > > > > I think that the real culprit is Sonu Nigam !! His voice is so > > artificial and make-believe. .. yes I am using word artificial and > > make-believe. .. because listen to chiggy wiggy from 3:27 onwards you'll > > know what i mean... > > > > I found his voice more original in Satrangi re from 01:03 onwards... > > > > I strongly feel Daler Mehndi or Sukhvinder singh would have been a > > better choice.. maybe even KK... but not Sonu, his voice doesn't suit > > for this song !! > > > > The other reason is the rhythm (I dont know what they call it, beat, > > rhythm whatever) that Rahman has used, the one which has already been > > popular. Right from the beginning, whenever I listen to this song I feel > > like listening to Pritam's Zara Zara.. > > > > Chiggy Wiggy would have been a super-hit if it had been done before Zara > > Zara... Cos Zara Zara caught peoples imagination with the sensuous > > swaying of Katrina Kaif to the music of Pritam.. > > > > The next culprit is the sound quality, I think the recording engineer > > wanted the listener to hear all the sounds of the song at the same > > time... I feel that the sounds that were supposed to be in the > > background were brought forward along with all the percussions and the > > lead voices (This is the case with all the songs of Blue, H.Sridhar's > > loss is very evident here) .. it feels really horrible when listened on > > a high end sound system.. its even more horrible on small time audio > > systems, especially in office cabs !! > > > > Donno why, but after sonu's voice takes over the song, I couldnt help > > but wanted the song to end quickly !!! And when the song ends, it felt > > very peaceful, as if after the storm... > > > > I feel let down, when my colleagues at office talk abt chiggy wiggy and > > compare it with Zara Zara... I realised that everyone feels that chiggy > > wiggy is an extension of zara zara > > > > As for the sound quality of the songs in Blue... I have a high end audio > > system in my car, with blaupunkt woofer(its awesome !) pioneer 2 din > > head unit, blaupunkt 800 watt amplifier, jbl speakers... I expected the > > songs of blue to blow me over with the sound... but it was too jarry... > > > > Fanaa from Yuva is the benchmark that i use in my car.. the beats in > > Fanaa are simply superb and it puts the woofer to its ultimate test, > > literally... I play this song at volume level of 8 with A/c on (my > > system supports 30 i think). Be
Re: [arr] Re: why was 'Yuhin Chala' never used in Concerts ?
thanks everyone for the info :) Hope to see a video in youtube. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Ganesh.V wrote: > Yeah it was performed in front Of Ms Jayalalitha for putting privacy > laws.. > He was there along with Kailash Kher > > --- On *Tue, 17/3/09, $ Pavan Kumar $ * wrote: > > > From: $ Pavan Kumar $ > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: why was 'Yuhin Chala' never used in Concerts ? > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, 17 March, 2009, 11:42 AM > > That function was done by Kollywood in honour of then cheif minster > Ms.Jayalalitha for imposing strict rules against piracy...Rahman also > performed Oru deviam thantha poove from KM just with his piano and with kids > singing..if i am right.. > > Sadly, I wasnt able to watch the whole of ARR's performance. Does anybody > has the video of this? > > > --- On *Mon, 3/16/09, Nagaraj * wrote: > > From: Nagaraj > Subject: [arr] Re: why was 'Yuhin Chala' never used in Concerts ? > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 6:24 PM > > Yuhi chala's tamil version was performed in some function organsied by > Former CM of tamil nadu Jayalalitha. . > > Cant recall the function name.. > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. > com<http://mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>, > nazeef mohammed wrote: > > > > Yuhi Chala was performed in the Delhi concert by Hariharan, Kailash Kher > and > > Mohammed Aslam. > > > > > > -- > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > here<http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_webmessenger_2/*http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/> > > > -- Cheers, Pradeepan. "All you need to do is, decide what to do with the time that is given to you !"
Re: [arr] Re: why was 'Yuhin Chala' never used in Concerts ?
Yeah it was performed in front Of Ms Jayalalitha for putting privacy laws.. He was there along with Kailash Kher --- On Tue, 17/3/09, $ Pavan Kumar $ wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ Subject: Re: [arr] Re: why was 'Yuhin Chala' never used in Concerts ? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 17 March, 2009, 11:42 AM That function was done by Kollywood in honour of then cheif minster Ms.Jayalalitha for imposing strict rules against piracy...Rahman also performed Oru deviam thantha poove from KM just with his piano and with kids singing..if i am right.. Sadly, I wasnt able to watch the whole of ARR's performance. Does anybody has the video of this? --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Nagaraj wrote: From: Nagaraj Subject: [arr] Re: why was 'Yuhin Chala' never used in Concerts ? To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 6:24 PM Yuhi chala's tamil version was performed in some function organsied by Former CM of tamil nadu Jayalalitha. . Cant recall the function name.. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, nazeef mohammed wrote: > > Yuhi Chala was performed in the Delhi concert by Hariharan, Kailash Kher and > Mohammed Aslam. > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [arr] Re: why was 'Yuhin Chala' never used in Concerts ?
That function was done by Kollywood in honour of then cheif minster Ms.Jayalalitha for imposing strict rules against piracy...Rahman also performed Oru deviam thantha poove from KM just with his piano and with kids singing..if i am right.. Sadly, I wasnt able to watch the whole of ARR's performance. Does anybody has the video of this? --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Nagaraj wrote: From: Nagaraj Subject: [arr] Re: why was 'Yuhin Chala' never used in Concerts ? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 6:24 PM Yuhi chala's tamil version was performed in some function organsied by Former CM of tamil nadu Jayalalitha. . Cant recall the function name.. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, nazeef mohammed wrote: > > Yuhi Chala was performed in the Delhi concert by Hariharan, Kailash Kher and > Mohammed Aslam. >
[arr] Re: why was 'Yuhin Chala' never used in Concerts ?
Yuhi chala's tamil version was performed in some function organsied by Former CM of tamil nadu Jayalalitha.. Cant recall the function name.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, nazeef mohammed wrote: > > Yuhi Chala was performed in the Delhi concert by Hariharan, Kailash Kher and > Mohammed Aslam. >
[arr] Re: why was 'Yuhin Chala' never used in Concerts ?
Yuhi Chala was performed in the Delhi concert by Hariharan, Kailash Kher and Mohammed Aslam.
[arr] Re: why was 'Yuhin Chala' never used in Concerts ?
I do not think becoz of complexity of composition , ARR is not using it in concerts.I think probably it did depend upon availabilty of Udit and Kailash.These two guys have abilty to carry this song 'Live' if they both are present there in concerts. 'jiban' "Jai Ho" --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" wrote: > > Good catch! Great song indeed live with lots of energy and a grand sound. > Maybe the arrangements were too complex for ARR to use live? I don't know, > but it would be a huge hit live! > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Pradeepan" wrote: > > > > There are lots of brilliant songs that AR has never used in concerts. > > but I think Yuhin Chala was a perfect one for Concerts. > > You have 2 male singers singing , lots of Guitar, Bass. > > High energy song.. It would have been wonderful if this song was used in > > any of his concerts. > > Just my opinion. > > >
[arr] Re: why was 'Yuhin Chala' never used in Concerts ?
Good catch! Great song indeed live with lots of energy and a grand sound. Maybe the arrangements were too complex for ARR to use live? I don't know, but it would be a huge hit live! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Pradeepan" wrote: > > There are lots of brilliant songs that AR has never used in concerts. > but I think Yuhin Chala was a perfect one for Concerts. > You have 2 male singers singing , lots of Guitar, Bass. > High energy song.. It would have been wonderful if this song was used in any > of his concerts. > Just my opinion. >
[arr] Re: Why Gulzar and Sukhwinder were missing at the Oscars
i don't think anyone would have done what Sukhwinder did to the song. he absolutely rocked it with his unique out of the world voice. i don't have words to explain magic of his voice in the song. to me no singer including Sonu, Udit, SP Bala, Hariharan, KK, etc etc got the range of voice he's got (i am not talking about who is better singer, i am talking about voice). and i personally feels that ARR should have thanked or at least mentioned him while accepting award for best song (i know many of you will not like me saying this). in fact i was very much sure that he would thank all singers associated to the song as after ARR this is the singers who really rocked the song. Sukhwinder's case is special because he is the main singer and also because he could not attend the ceremony due to the mishap. i was expecting boss to add something like "unfortunately the original singer of the song Sukhwinder Singh could not attend.. ". i am sure boss forgot to do that in excitement. this would have come as relief for Sukhwinder also who must have been very much upset on missing performing on Oscar stage. does not it sound strange that the person who sang the Oscar winning song is being completely ignored everywhere?? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, subbu satish wrote: > > In some newsyesterday, read as Sukwinder singh wanted to know from rahman why he was not intimated to join oscars but said he wont ask AR. But through interview he asked it. Also Indian tv channels hesitated to project Gulzars name with AR's name inspite his name announced clearly with AR for best song category. Probably they are aware of gulzars seniority in film industry & does not need a mention in this small project & unexpected win. This is to stress Rahman is not the person to b blamed at this point when official invitation letters dont reach them in time. Rahman sees to it Gulzars name included in original song. At the least AR is the first person who raised voice for lyricists in publishing rights controversy. Here too ARR proved that gulzars name included for best song. What one could do when there is miscommunication from official side. But i wish Rahmah himself could perform at best this Jai Ho song originally & wondered why he chose > Sukwinder for recording. There is also no such nomination for best singers & best instrumentalists in oscar to include either singers or the people behind instuments who also performed this Jai Ho. So no regrets & no blaming. > > > > --- On Tue, 2/24/09, satish_srini wrote: > > From: satish_srini > Subject: [arr] Why Gulzar and Sukhwinder were missing at the Oscars > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 2:53 AM > > > > > > > By Parag Maniar > Posted On Tuesday, February 24, 2009 at 02:39:15 AM > > As India was still celebrating the success of Jai Ho, India's bona > fide contribution to the British production Slumdog Millionaire, two > of its key participants, singer Sukhvinder Singh and lyricist Gulzar, > found themselves watching the event unfold on television, miles away > from Los Angeles where they were meant to be. The irony is sharper for > Singh, who was supposed to perform live along with AR Rahman at the > 81st Academy Awards ceremony at Kodak Theatre. The singer and lyricist > could not make it to the event because their paperwork was botched. > Their absence has raised quite a few eyebrows in the music industry. > > A reliable source close to the singer said, "Sukhwinder was charged up > and was looking forward to the live performance at the Oscar event. > Rahman had worked out an updated version of Jai Ho and the two were to > sing the new version at the event." > > However, Sukhwinder was surprised to learn that he had not received > the official work permit letter from the Oscar authorities. "A work > permit letter is required because Sukhwinder was to perform there. > Sukhwinder had even completed all the formalities, sending across a > photocopy of his passport along with the required important documents. > But somebody goofed up." Whether the balls-up came from Rahman's end > or Foxlight Productions is still a mystery. > > Sukhwinder has some esteemed shoulders to cry on. Gulzar too failed to > receive an official letter from the Oscar committee. "Gulzar was > looking forward to the event too, but missed it because no letter came." > > Sukhwinder, when contacted, confirmed that attending and performing at > the Oscar night remained a dream. "Yes it is true that I did not > receive any official intimation from there and therefore I could not > make it to the event. I don't know what went wrong. Rahman and I are > like brothers and he is not responsible for this. In fact, he was the > one who insisted on my performance at the event. Somewhere, someone > must have goofed up but I don't know who is responsible for it." > > Gulzar remained unavailable for comment. Composed by AR Rahman and
[arr] Re: Why has no date for the official CD release of Connections been announced?
I do not think Nokia ever had any plans of releasing this CD. They have ARR as an ambassador to boost their phone business. They released PFMB as it is for a social cause..isnt it? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" wrote: > > I'm just curious why no official word yet. I'm waiting with baited > breath here. I want this CD so badly! >
Re: [arr] Re: Why Didnt Get Rahman Get a Padma Award ??
He is GOLDEN RATNA now... He soon will become Bharat Ratna. Inshallah :-) Bharat > Gold. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:08 PM, $ Pavan Kumar $ wrote: > Yes Rawat,.Rahman mostly would be getting Padma Bhusan next > year...Irrespective of he gets a oscar or not(Ofcourse he is going to get > one) , he would make it to the list next year.. > > And he still has a long way to go before he gets a Bharat Ratna..Yes, He > has already made the nation proud many times CONSISTENTLY, but the only > thing is, he is too young and he has just started...We all are going to be > really fortunate to see him acheive many more things in years to come.. > > > --- On *Sun, 1/25/09, V S Rawat * wrote: > > From: V S Rawat > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Why Didnt Get Rahman Get a Padma Award ?? > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 12:23 PM > > On 1/25/2009 10:55 PM India Time, _arr_raghu_ wrote: > > > He has a PadmaSri and he will hopefully get a PadmaBhushan soon.. > > We have had this BharatRatna discussion earlier.. > > He deserves it or not is a different question but it is just not > > right to award somebody a BharataRatna when they are 43. > > It takes at least 20-25 more years to get it, only then will it carry > > the value and respect it is supposed to have. > > My hunch is: if he wins oscar this year, he would get Padma Bhushan next > year. > > Nomination to oscar is great, but when the crucial win is still a month > ahead, it would be premature to award him right now. > > -- > Rawat > > > > -- regards, Vithur
[arr] Re: Why Didnt Get Rahman Get a Padma Award ??
Rahman has already 'Padma Shree' award in his kitty.. For Bharat Ratna we 'll have to wait.. People like Pt Bhimsen Joshi and Bismillah Khan got it at olde age..If Govt conferres him 'Bharat Ratna', people from music industry will start hue and cry.. there are many more in pipeline like ustad amzad ali khan and zakir hussain.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat wrote: > > On 1/26/2009 12:05 AM India Time, _Bergin Roy_ wrote: > > > Usually, Bharat Ratna is given to old people... > > > > He has more time for a Bharat Ratna... > > There's more awards to get yet. Once he gets the Nation's highest award > > Bharat Ratna, others would have no meaning... > > > > So lets wait.. :) > > If ARR gets all awards this year itself, what awards would he get in > rest of his long and creative remaining life? :-) > > -- > Rawat >
Re: [arr] Re: Why Didnt Get Rahman Get a Padma Award ??
Yes Rawat,.Rahman mostly would be getting Padma Bhusan next year...Irrespective of he gets a oscar or not(Ofcourse he is going to get one) , he would make it to the list next year.. And he still has a long way to go before he gets a Bharat Ratna..Yes, He has already made the nation proud many times CONSISTENTLY, but the only thing is, he is too young and he has just started...We all are going to be really fortunate to see him acheive many more things in years to come.. --- On Sun, 1/25/09, V S Rawat wrote: From: V S Rawat Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Why Didnt Get Rahman Get a Padma Award ?? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 12:23 PM On 1/25/2009 10:55 PM India Time, _arr_raghu_ wrote: > He has a PadmaSri and he will hopefully get a PadmaBhushan soon.. > We have had this BharatRatna discussion earlier.. > He deserves it or not is a different question but it is just not > right to award somebody a BharataRatna when they are 43. > It takes at least 20-25 more years to get it, only then will it carry > the value and respect it is supposed to have. My hunch is: if he wins oscar this year, he would get Padma Bhushan next year. Nomination to oscar is great, but when the crucial win is still a month ahead, it would be premature to award him right now. -- Rawat
[arr] Re: Why did I...miss H S, so much
2009-01-22
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ramakrisha laxmana subramanian siva gopala acharya iyer .aiyooo amma idli wada dosa sambar chatni .
Absolutely man! Miss H sridhar, he'd DEF have been nominated otherwise. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "rayrai2k" wrote: > > I dont know something went past my mind for a while for which the > tears fell despite all attempt to control. I missed H Shridhar so much > than never before. He would have been nominated along with Resul > Pookutty for Sound Mixing to the Academy Awards. Also how great would > have he felt to see his dearest friend scaling heights. God had been a > bit too ruthless. He took away AR's dearest friend and then awarded AR. > > We miss you HS. All those images while being with you still makes me > blind and makes me feel wish I had that time machine to go back to the > past. >
[arr] Re: Why INDIAFM is neglecting A R RAHMAN
> to JAHANZEB BHAI...may be i m talking about size :) lol. then i absolutely won't mind. > lets not argue on that...you call yourself and i call myself "A R RAHMAN's BIGGEST PAKISTANI FAN" good solution :-) well no problem brother Ali, you can happily call urself his biggest fan, i won't mind (as long as you don't win any prize/award for that :-) ) - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ali ahad wrote: > > well still i m furious at INDIAFM ...anyother MD sneezes and they writ e an article on it .. > > to JAHANZEB BHAI...may be i m talking about size :) ... well may be both of us are lets not argue on that...you call yourself and i call mysel f "A R RAHMAN's BIGGEST PAKISTANI FAN"... . > > --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Jahanzeb Farooq wrote: > From: Jahanzeb Farooq > Subject: [arr] Re: Why INDIAFM is neglecting A R RAHMAN > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:52 PM > > well very same thoughts here too. it seems they are deliberately > ignoring ARR. well their loss. > > >> A R RAHMAN's Biggest PAKISTANI fan > > well i thought i am the one :-) > > - > Jahanzeb > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, ali ahad > wrote: > > > > I can't understand why didn't they mention A R RAHMAN in the article > regarding SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE getting four golden globe > nomination.. .they only include BEST MOTION picture nommination. ..no > talks about orignal score...They praises DANNY BOYLE but where is our > very own A R RAHAMN > > > > > > ALI AHAD ULLAH > > A R RAHMAN's Biggest PAKISTANI fan > >I can't > > >
Re: [arr] Re: Why INDIAFM is neglecting A R RAHMAN
Yeh PAVAN each day i surf tv channels to listen one A R RAHMAN's song and what i find is SING IS KING, RACE, KAARZ, JAB WE MET and many PRITAM, HIMESH and ANU MALIK...not even good music of AAMIR and ROCK ON...A R RAHMAN..once in 2 or 3 hrsi really hate 9xm for this...as far as zoom i like this channel because i watched KAISE MUJHE (GHAJINI) exclusively and GUJARISH (GHAJINI) sometime on it and CHANNEL V for showing some A R RAHMAN's interview --- On Sun, 12/14/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ wrote: From: $ Pavan Kumar $ Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Why INDIAFM is neglecting A R RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 5:53 AM LOL...Thats Indian Media for you.Leave out online sites..the same goes with many other news channels too... --- On Sat, 12/13/08, ali ahad wrote: From: ali ahad Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Why INDIAFM is neglecting A R RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:22 AM well still i m furious at INDIAFM ...anyother MD sneezes and they write an article on it .. to JAHANZEB BHAI...may be i m talking about size :) ... well may be both of us are lets not argue on that...you call yourself and i call myself "A R RAHMAN's BIGGEST PAKISTANI FAN"... . --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Jahanzeb Farooq wrote: From: Jahanzeb Farooq Subject: [arr] Re: Why INDIAFM is neglecting A R RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:52 PM well very same thoughts here too. it seems they are deliberately ignoring ARR. well their loss. >> A R RAHMAN's Biggest PAKISTANI fan well i thought i am the one :-) - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, ali ahad wrote: > > I can't understand why didn't they mention A R RAHMAN in the article regarding SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE getting four golden globe nomination.. .they only include BEST MOTION picture nommination. ..no talks about orignal score...They praises DANNY BOYLE but where is our very own A R RAHAMN > > > ALI AHAD ULLAH > A R RAHMAN's Biggest PAKISTANI fan > I can't >
[arr] Re: Why everyone is getting this doubt ?
Better question to ask would have something along the lines of asking what is update on that soundtrack as its Mani - Rahman combo everyone is waiting for it. Callers / interviewers should have prepared the questions pre-hand. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur wrote: > > Dear all, > > Recently, in the SAJA Radio Interview too, there was a question to AR about > whether if he was associated with Mani's next movie Ravaan .. Why at all > people get the doubt. Is there a speculation on Mani ARR combo getting > distanced or seperated > > > If its Mani's Movie, it obviously would be ARR. There are no other existing > MDs, who can be even thought of as an alterantive to ARR ( considering his > very busy schedules ) > > > > -- > regards, > Vithur >
Re: [arr] Re: Why INDIAFM is neglecting A R RAHMAN
LOL...Thats Indian Media for you.Leave out online sites..the same goes with many other news channels too... --- On Sat, 12/13/08, ali ahad wrote: From: ali ahad Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Why INDIAFM is neglecting A R RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:22 AM well still i m furious at INDIAFM ...anyother MD sneezes and they write an article on it .. to JAHANZEB BHAI...may be i m talking about size :) ... well may be both of us are lets not argue on that...you call yourself and i call myself "A R RAHMAN's BIGGEST PAKISTANI FAN"... . --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Jahanzeb Farooq wrote: From: Jahanzeb Farooq Subject: [arr] Re: Why INDIAFM is neglecting A R RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:52 PM well very same thoughts here too. it seems they are deliberately ignoring ARR. well their loss. >> A R RAHMAN's Biggest PAKISTANI fan well i thought i am the one :-) - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, ali ahad wrote: > > I can't understand why didn't they mention A R RAHMAN in the article regarding SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE getting four golden globe nomination.. .they only include BEST MOTION picture nommination. ..no talks about orignal score...They praises DANNY BOYLE but where is our very own A R RAHAMN > > > ALI AHAD ULLAH > A R RAHMAN's Biggest PAKISTANI fan > I can't >
Re: [arr] Re: Why INDIAFM is neglecting A R RAHMAN
well still i m furious at INDIAFM ...anyother MD sneezes and they write an article on it .. to JAHANZEB BHAI...may be i m talking about size :) ... well may be both of us are lets not argue on that...you call yourself and i call myself "A R RAHMAN's BIGGEST PAKISTANI FAN"... . --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Jahanzeb Farooq wrote: From: Jahanzeb Farooq Subject: [arr] Re: Why INDIAFM is neglecting A R RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:52 PM well very same thoughts here too. it seems they are deliberately ignoring ARR. well their loss. >> A R RAHMAN's Biggest PAKISTANI fan well i thought i am the one :-) - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, ali ahad wrote: > > I can't understand why didn't they mention A R RAHMAN in the article regarding SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE getting four golden globe nomination.. .they only include BEST MOTION picture nommination. ..no talks about orignal score...They praises DANNY BOYLE but where is our very own A R RAHAMN > > > ALI AHAD ULLAH > A R RAHMAN's Biggest PAKISTANI fan > I can't >
[arr] Re: Why INDIAFM is neglecting A R RAHMAN
well very same thoughts here too. it seems they are deliberately ignoring ARR. well their loss. >> A R RAHMAN's Biggest PAKISTANI fan well i thought i am the one :-) - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ali ahad wrote: > > I can't understand why didn't they mention A R RAHMAN in the article regarding SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE getting four golden globe nomination...they only include BEST MOTION picture nommination...no talks about orignal score...They praises DANNY BOYLE but where is our very own A R RAHAMN > > > ALI AHAD ULLAH > A R RAHMAN's Biggest PAKISTANI fan > I can't >
[arr] Re: Why everyone is getting this doubt ?
oh. nice to know u are the one. the excitement in ur voice was so clear, showed how much ARR fans love him. and anyways great work, at least u were able to speak and asked good questions. i in ur situation would not even able to ask a single sensible question. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "superstarksa" wrote: > > Vithur/Pratap: > > I was the over-excited guy in the radio interview that asked ARR about > Gangsta Blues/Taxi Taxi etc. > > Believe me, Ekam Satyam was in my mind too. I have been on this group > long enough that it is one of the burning questions in my mind. > > But this interview was mostly about Slumdog Millionaire and keeping > that in mind, I had to somehow get him to talk about Slumdog (the > broad interview agenda) and also about different genres that he has > delved in(my own personal agenda). And because the others in the > conversation did not seem to have heard about the Apache Indian > collaboration (which is one of my favs), I had to give a shout out to > that song. > > Mentioning Ekam Satyam, on the other hand would have been a pretty > pointed question to him (and something that the other people in the > conversation would not even be aware of) and that's not how such > things are done. Even in my case, I was guilty of talking too much for > one single question. > > The point was to get him to talk, but this was not definitely the time > to get him to talk about Ekam Satyam. > > Hope this makes sense. > > anantha. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur wrote: > > > > May be not to upset ARR further, as there are some rights issues > involved in > > it , I guess. > > > > I got this info from some sources > > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:46 PM, pratap wrote: > > > > > I was actually a little upset that nobody asked anything about > Ekam > > > Sathyam... > > > > > > --- On *Fri, 12/12/08, Vithur * wrote: > > > > > > From: Vithur > > > Subject: [arr] Why everyone is getting this doubt ? > > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 5:32 AM > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Recently, in the SAJA Radio Interview too, there was a question to > AR about > > > whether if he was associated with Mani's next movie Ravaan .. Why > at all > > > people get the doubt. Is there a speculation on Mani ARR combo getting > > > distanced or seperated!!! ! > > > > > > > > > If its Mani's Movie, it obviously would be ARR. There are no other > existing > > > MDs, who can be even thought of as an alterantive to ARR ( > considering his > > > very busy schedules ) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > regards, > > > Vithur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > regards, > > Vithur > > >
Re: [arr] Re: Why everyone is getting this doubt ?
Haha. You are the one. I would have been worse if i was in your situation:) Its ok. We can save the question for the future... BTW, i could hear the luv u hv 4 ARR when you were talkin to him... --- On Fri, 12/12/08, superstarksa wrote: From: superstarksa Subject: [arr] Re: Why everyone is getting this doubt ? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 9:19 AM Vithur/Pratap: I was the over-excited guy in the radio interview that asked ARR about Gangsta Blues/Taxi Taxi etc. Believe me, Ekam Satyam was in my mind too. I have been on this group long enough that it is one of the burning questions in my mind. But this interview was mostly about Slumdog Millionaire and keeping that in mind, I had to somehow get him to talk about Slumdog (the broad interview agenda) and also about different genres that he has delved in(my own personal agenda). And because the others in the conversation did not seem to have heard about the Apache Indian collaboration (which is one of my favs), I had to give a shout out to that song. Mentioning Ekam Satyam, on the other hand would have been a pretty pointed question to him (and something that the other people in the conversation would not even be aware of) and that's not how such things are done. Even in my case, I was guilty of talking too much for one single question. The point was to get him to talk, but this was not definitely the time to get him to talk about Ekam Satyam. Hope this makes sense. anantha. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Vithur wrote: > > May be not to upset ARR further, as there are some rights issues involved in > it , I guess. > > I got this info from some sources > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:46 PM, pratap wrote: > > > I was actually a little upset that nobody asked anything about Ekam > > Sathyam... > > > > --- On *Fri, 12/12/08, Vithur * wrote: > > > > From: Vithur > > Subject: [arr] Why everyone is getting this doubt ? > > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > > Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 5:32 AM > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > Recently, in the SAJA Radio Interview too, there was a question to AR about > > whether if he was associated with Mani's next movie Ravaan .. Why at all > > people get the doubt. Is there a speculation on Mani ARR combo getting > > distanced or seperated!!! ! > > > > > > If its Mani's Movie, it obviously would be ARR. There are no other existing > > MDs, who can be even thought of as an alterantive to ARR ( considering his > > very busy schedules ) > > > > > > > > -- > > regards, > > Vithur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > regards, > Vithur >
[arr] Re: Why everyone is getting this doubt ?
Vithur/Pratap: I was the over-excited guy in the radio interview that asked ARR about Gangsta Blues/Taxi Taxi etc. Believe me, Ekam Satyam was in my mind too. I have been on this group long enough that it is one of the burning questions in my mind. But this interview was mostly about Slumdog Millionaire and keeping that in mind, I had to somehow get him to talk about Slumdog (the broad interview agenda) and also about different genres that he has delved in(my own personal agenda). And because the others in the conversation did not seem to have heard about the Apache Indian collaboration (which is one of my favs), I had to give a shout out to that song. Mentioning Ekam Satyam, on the other hand would have been a pretty pointed question to him (and something that the other people in the conversation would not even be aware of) and that's not how such things are done. Even in my case, I was guilty of talking too much for one single question. The point was to get him to talk, but this was not definitely the time to get him to talk about Ekam Satyam. Hope this makes sense. anantha. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur wrote: > > May be not to upset ARR further, as there are some rights issues involved in > it , I guess. > > I got this info from some sources > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:46 PM, pratap wrote: > > > I was actually a little upset that nobody asked anything about Ekam > > Sathyam... > > > > --- On *Fri, 12/12/08, Vithur * wrote: > > > > From: Vithur > > Subject: [arr] Why everyone is getting this doubt ? > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 5:32 AM > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > Recently, in the SAJA Radio Interview too, there was a question to AR about > > whether if he was associated with Mani's next movie Ravaan .. Why at all > > people get the doubt. Is there a speculation on Mani ARR combo getting > > distanced or seperated!!! ! > > > > > > If its Mani's Movie, it obviously would be ARR. There are no other existing > > MDs, who can be even thought of as an alterantive to ARR ( considering his > > very busy schedules ) > > > > > > > > -- > > regards, > > Vithur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > regards, > Vithur >
[arr] Re: Why is Srinivas not being used regularly?
Srinivas voice is so majestic and brings about a lot of emotions. I have a feeling that we are getting to hear too much of blazee, benny, javed ali etc...and somewhere miss the classic singers like Srini or Hariharan or Sonu. Could'nt imagine how the Ghajini songs would have sounded if Srinivas sung Kaise Muje, Sonu sung Guzarish!!! They are still great in their current form... Hope to hear a soft romantic melody by Srini in the near future... Cheers, Yeshwanth --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Gomzy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Srinivas was terrific in Kaisi hai yeh Ruth for SELs Dil Chatha hai. > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I feel ARR alone uses Srinivas to the maximum. he hardly sings for other > > MDs > > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:57 PM, yeshrao81 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Why is Srinivas used so rarley by ARR even though he has one of India's > >> > >> best voices? Guess Kaise Mujhe could have easily been sung with more > >> emotions Srini. > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > regards, > > Vithur > > > > > > > > > > >
[arr] Re: Why do I keep posting here? A big thank you and best wishes to all.
Hi chord, I am a silent member of this group but never missed any consolidated mails from this group, particularly never one of yours.. I always cherished your matured writing and would really miss you if you stop to post.. Hope you seriously re consider your thoughts.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "rivjot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please dont leave Chord; I like reading your posts :) > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" wrote: > > > > While I appreciate Gopal's administration and moderation of this forum > > and all that other members' have contributed in terms of bgm scores, > > latest news, tracklisting, etc., I am feeling that the attacks, > > accusations, and general nastiness has been increasing in frequency. > > This was not the case many years ago when the group first started, and > > in fact, many of those senior members no longer post or have > > unsubscribed. I too will now be going down that road. I really do > > feel that I'm a bit too aged and seasoned for this teenage dominated > > group and really don't have time to defend disproportionate attacks on > > my opinions. I have a family and important job to focus on. My love > > for ARR will continue forever. > > > > Thank you to all those members here who have appreciated my attempts > > to raise more substantive discussions and insight into Rahman and his > > music. Really, your supportive comments have meant a lot to me and > > have kept me going this far. Rawat's comment on my latest post on > > Sonu Nigam, accusing me of having an ego and that he finds my attitude > > sickening is just one of many reasons that have accumulated over time > > of why I will no longer be posting in this group. > > >
Re: [arr] Re: Why do I keep posting here? A big thank you and best wishes to all.
Dear Chord, "Please dont quit this group". This is the request from my heart, I think each and every members in the group think the same way. ohhh I cant imagine this group without ur wonderful writeups and sharing!! Please consider this request and stay back here. -- SAJIN .. .. To err is human, to forgive... unlikely. From: haris zeenath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:52:44 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Why do I keep posting here? A big thank you and best wishes to all. if u senior members starts to quit, this group will remain good for nothing... pls do not quit i always wanted to chk the mails by senior membres.. coz ther ll b hundreds of mails each day.. so pls keep posting --- On Mon, 17/11/08, sdavies0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] a.edu> wrote: From: sdavies0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] a.edu> Subject: [arr] Re: Why do I keep posting here? A big thank you and best wishes to all. To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, 17 November, 2008, 8:21 AM Oh, don't just quit. Take a vacation and come back after awhile. I think you write intelligently and interestingly and I'd miss you. There are certainly a lot of children on the forum who think that uncritical praise of everything ARR ever does is a good idea, but they just don't know any better. And there are some mental illnesses manifesting here of Rahman-Worship that the composer himself would certainly condemn. So it's nice to hear comment that is both appreciative and critical and I hope you keep it up. I agree with you that becoming aged leads to the ability appraise and not just praise. Next you just have to learn to ignore the whining of the kids. Stevan Davies --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote: > > While I appreciate Gopal's administration and moderation of this forum > and all that other members' have contributed in terms of bgm scores, > latest news, tracklisting, etc., I am feeling that the attacks, > accusations, and general nastiness has been increasing in frequency. > This was not the case many years ago when the group first started, and > in fact, many of those senior members no longer post or have > unsubscribed. I too will now be going down that road. I really do > feel that I'm a bit too aged and seasoned for this teenage dominated > group and really don't have time to defend disproportionate attacks on > my opinions. I have a family and important job to focus on. My love > for ARR will continue forever. > > Thank you to all those members here who have appreciated my attempts > to raise more substantive discussions and insight into Rahman and his > music. Really, your supportive comments have meant a lot to me and > have kept me going this far. Rawat's comment on my latest post on > Sonu Nigam, accusing me of having an ego and that he finds my attitude > sickening is just one of many reasons that have accumulated over time > of why I will no longer be posting in this group. > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now
[arr] Re: Why do I keep posting here? A big thank you and best wishes to all.
same here mate. I wudnt even suggest yuo to take a break. you didnt say anything wrong and you shouldnt need to quit!!!. we need you bro!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "sdavies0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, don't just quit. Take a vacation and come back after awhile. I > think you write intelligently and interestingly and I'd miss you. > There are certainly a lot of children on the forum who think that > uncritical praise of everything ARR ever does is a good idea, but > they just don't know any better. And there are some mental illnesses > manifesting here of Rahman-Worship that the composer himself would > certainly condemn. So it's nice to hear comment that is both > appreciative and critical and I hope you keep it up. I agree with you > that becoming aged leads to the ability appraise and not just praise. > Next you just have to learn to ignore the whining of the kids. > > Stevan Davies > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" wrote: > > > > While I appreciate Gopal's administration and moderation of this > forum > > and all that other members' have contributed in terms of bgm scores, > > latest news, tracklisting, etc., I am feeling that the attacks, > > accusations, and general nastiness has been increasing in > frequency. > > This was not the case many years ago when the group first started, > and > > in fact, many of those senior members no longer post or have > > unsubscribed. I too will now be going down that road. I really do > > feel that I'm a bit too aged and seasoned for this teenage dominated > > group and really don't have time to defend disproportionate attacks > on > > my opinions. I have a family and important job to focus on. My > love > > for ARR will continue forever. > > > > Thank you to all those members here who have appreciated my attempts > > to raise more substantive discussions and insight into Rahman and > his > > music. Really, your supportive comments have meant a lot to me and > > have kept me going this far. Rawat's comment on my latest post on > > Sonu Nigam, accusing me of having an ego and that he finds my > attitude > > sickening is just one of many reasons that have accumulated over > time > > of why I will no longer be posting in this group. > > >
Re: [arr] Re: Why do I keep posting here? A big thank you and best wishes to all.
if u senior members starts to quit, this group will remain good for nothing... pls do not quit i always wanted to chk the mails by senior membres.. coz ther ll b hundreds of mails each day.. so pls keep posting --- On Mon, 17/11/08, sdavies0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: sdavies0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [arr] Re: Why do I keep posting here? A big thank you and best wishes to all. To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 17 November, 2008, 8:21 AM Oh, don't just quit. Take a vacation and come back after awhile. I think you write intelligently and interestingly and I'd miss you. There are certainly a lot of children on the forum who think that uncritical praise of everything ARR ever does is a good idea, but they just don't know any better. And there are some mental illnesses manifesting here of Rahman-Worship that the composer himself would certainly condemn. So it's nice to hear comment that is both appreciative and critical and I hope you keep it up. I agree with you that becoming aged leads to the ability appraise and not just praise. Next you just have to learn to ignore the whining of the kids. Stevan Davies --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote: > > While I appreciate Gopal's administration and moderation of this forum > and all that other members' have contributed in terms of bgm scores, > latest news, tracklisting, etc., I am feeling that the attacks, > accusations, and general nastiness has been increasing in frequency. > This was not the case many years ago when the group first started, and > in fact, many of those senior members no longer post or have > unsubscribed. I too will now be going down that road. I really do > feel that I'm a bit too aged and seasoned for this teenage dominated > group and really don't have time to defend disproportionate attacks on > my opinions. I have a family and important job to focus on. My love > for ARR will continue forever. > > Thank you to all those members here who have appreciated my attempts > to raise more substantive discussions and insight into Rahman and his > music. Really, your supportive comments have meant a lot to me and > have kept me going this far. Rawat's comment on my latest post on > Sonu Nigam, accusing me of having an ego and that he finds my attitude > sickening is just one of many reasons that have accumulated over time > of why I will no longer be posting in this group. > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/
[arr] Re: Why do I keep posting here? A big thank you and best wishes to all.
Please dont leave Chord; I like reading your posts :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While I appreciate Gopal's administration and moderation of this forum > and all that other members' have contributed in terms of bgm scores, > latest news, tracklisting, etc., I am feeling that the attacks, > accusations, and general nastiness has been increasing in frequency. > This was not the case many years ago when the group first started, and > in fact, many of those senior members no longer post or have > unsubscribed. I too will now be going down that road. I really do > feel that I'm a bit too aged and seasoned for this teenage dominated > group and really don't have time to defend disproportionate attacks on > my opinions. I have a family and important job to focus on. My love > for ARR will continue forever. > > Thank you to all those members here who have appreciated my attempts > to raise more substantive discussions and insight into Rahman and his > music. Really, your supportive comments have meant a lot to me and > have kept me going this far. Rawat's comment on my latest post on > Sonu Nigam, accusing me of having an ego and that he finds my attitude > sickening is just one of many reasons that have accumulated over time > of why I will no longer be posting in this group. >
Re: [arr] Re: Why do I keep posting here? A big thank you and best wishes to all.
Hey Chord ,,, don't quit man.. you see it's all in the family yaar .. In a family there are grownups & children. & in family only you can complaint for anything. so please please don't quit .. we need you !!! thanks & regards, sachin --- On Mon, 17/11/08, sdavies0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: sdavies0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [arr] Re: Why do I keep posting here? A big thank you and best > wishes to all. > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, 17 November, 2008, 8:21 AM > Oh, don't just quit. Take a vacation and come back after > awhile. I > think you write intelligently and interestingly and I'd > miss you. > There are certainly a lot of children on the forum who > think that > uncritical praise of everything ARR ever does is a good > idea, but > they just don't know any better. And there are some > mental illnesses > manifesting here of Rahman-Worship that the composer > himself would > certainly condemn. So it's nice to hear comment that is > both > appreciative and critical and I hope you keep it up. I > agree with you > that becoming aged leads to the ability appraise and not > just praise. > Next you just have to learn to ignore the whining of the > kids. > > Stevan Davies > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > While I appreciate Gopal's administration and > moderation of this > forum > > and all that other members' have contributed in > terms of bgm scores, > > latest news, tracklisting, etc., I am feeling that the > attacks, > > accusations, and general nastiness has been increasing > in > frequency. > > This was not the case many years ago when the group > first started, > and > > in fact, many of those senior members no longer post > or have > > unsubscribed. I too will now be going down that road. > I really do > > feel that I'm a bit too aged and seasoned for this > teenage dominated > > group and really don't have time to defend > disproportionate attacks > on > > my opinions. I have a family and important job to > focus on. My > love > > for ARR will continue forever. > > > > Thank you to all those members here who have > appreciated my attempts > > to raise more substantive discussions and insight into > Rahman and > his > > music. Really, your supportive comments have meant a > lot to me and > > have kept me going this far. Rawat's comment on > my latest post on > > Sonu Nigam, accusing me of having an ego and that he > finds my > attitude > > sickening is just one of many reasons that have > accumulated over > time > > of why I will no longer be posting in this group. > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Go to http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/
[arr] Re: Why do I keep posting here? A big thank you and best wishes to all.
Oh, don't just quit. Take a vacation and come back after awhile. I think you write intelligently and interestingly and I'd miss you. There are certainly a lot of children on the forum who think that uncritical praise of everything ARR ever does is a good idea, but they just don't know any better. And there are some mental illnesses manifesting here of Rahman-Worship that the composer himself would certainly condemn. So it's nice to hear comment that is both appreciative and critical and I hope you keep it up. I agree with you that becoming aged leads to the ability appraise and not just praise. Next you just have to learn to ignore the whining of the kids. Stevan Davies --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While I appreciate Gopal's administration and moderation of this forum > and all that other members' have contributed in terms of bgm scores, > latest news, tracklisting, etc., I am feeling that the attacks, > accusations, and general nastiness has been increasing in frequency. > This was not the case many years ago when the group first started, and > in fact, many of those senior members no longer post or have > unsubscribed. I too will now be going down that road. I really do > feel that I'm a bit too aged and seasoned for this teenage dominated > group and really don't have time to defend disproportionate attacks on > my opinions. I have a family and important job to focus on. My love > for ARR will continue forever. > > Thank you to all those members here who have appreciated my attempts > to raise more substantive discussions and insight into Rahman and his > music. Really, your supportive comments have meant a lot to me and > have kept me going this far. Rawat's comment on my latest post on > Sonu Nigam, accusing me of having an ego and that he finds my attitude > sickening is just one of many reasons that have accumulated over time > of why I will no longer be posting in this group. >
Re: [arr] Re: why no praise for harris from rahman?
Yeah, i saw that too. And in indiaglitz.com there was a special interview of Harris Jeyaraj where he said one of his favorite current song is Marudhani from Sakkarakatti. He's again indirectly praising ARR. I remember reading in Kumudham where ARR said that Harris, Yuvan and a few more others are doing good nowadays. --- On Tue, 11/11/08, kenny korg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: kenny korg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [arr] Re: why no praise for harris from rahman? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:55 PM I watch THAT TOO. Harris said A.R. Rahman is my favourite MD...
[arr] Re: why no praise for harris from rahman?
I watch THAT TOO. Harris said A.R. Rahman is my favourite MD...
Re: [arr] Re: why no praise for harris from rahman?
Chill bro What's wif the excitement All of us here are arr fans ur tonation sounds very very rude... U should respect everyone 1st... than backed arr up... He was not questioning arr integrity... try to be polite to others 1st and respect peoples comments and suggestions... then be an arr fan... --- On Tue, 11/11/08, mohammed sajin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: mohammed sajin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [arr] Re: why no praise for harris from rahman? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 5:32 AM More than one interview i had seen ARR making good comments on HJ!! even he is not so deserved!!! . thats the simplicity and greatness of ARR! some time he also praises Yuvan and other MDs also ... all those comments happened whenever the interviewer asked about those persons. .. so plz dont blindly accusing the GREAT... ...one and only ARR You never heard ARR commenting good words on HJ is ur mistake . .. that doesnt means ARR never make good comments on HJ.. . again I liked to say. . . even if he doesnt deserved it.. . . -- SAJIN To err is human, to forgive... unlikely. I am seeing too many people stating here regarding Harris Jeyraj.. who is this man..is he a composer..I have not heard anything about him..which movies?..why the Heck ARR is being compared with him/ ? -Jiban "you can NEVER get better than ARR" --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Vinu aryan wrote: > > I am just posting my opinion and i know no one will reply u r mail . The thing is Arr's Spine is very strong yaar it wont get shiverred by a copy cat. Who uses songs from westlife ,blue etc and one more thing is that a must to praise someone?? Just think and judge urself the music of Arr and others u will get the answer > > > > > > _ _ __ > From: nikhil_341 > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11:02:30 PM > Subject: [arr] why no praise for harris from rahman? > > > i request moderator plz allow me to post this...i am a fan of arr and > have seen him praising MDs like himesh and yuvan..i never read anywhere > any praise from arr for harris...why? is he considering him as the rival? > does the entry and success of harris in tamil film industry send > shivers down the spine of arr?i really want to know...plz give ur > opinions. >
Re: [arr] Re: why no praise for harris from rahman?
More than one interview i had seen ARR making good comments on HJ!! even he is not so deserved!!! . thats the simplicity and greatness of ARR! some time he also praises Yuvan and other MDs also... all those comments happened whenever the interviewer asked about those persons... so plz dont blindly accusing the GREAT..one and only ARR You never heard ARR commenting good words on HJ is ur mistake ... that doesnt means ARR never make good comments on HJ... again I liked to say... even if he doesnt deserved it -- SAJIN To err is human, to forgive... unlikely. I am seeing too many people stating here regarding Harris Jeyraj.. who is this man..is he a composer..I have not heard anything about him..which movies?..why the Heck ARR is being compared with him/ ? -Jiban "you can NEVER get better than ARR" --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Vinu aryan wrote: > > I am just posting my opinion and i know no one will reply u r mail . The thing is Arr's Spine is very strong yaar it wont get shiverred by a copy cat. Who uses songs from westlife ,blue etc and one more thing is that a must to praise someone?? Just think and judge urself the music of Arr and others u will get the answer > > > > > > _ _ __ > From: nikhil_341 > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11:02:30 PM > Subject: [arr] why no praise for harris from rahman? > > > i request moderator plz allow me to post this...i am a fan of arr and > have seen him praising MDs like himesh and yuvan..i never read anywhere > any praise from arr for harris...why? is he considering him as the rival? > does the entry and success of harris in tamil film industry send > shivers down the spine of arr?i really want to know...plz give ur > opinions. >
[arr] Re: why no praise for harris from rahman?
I am seeing too many people stating here regarding Harris Jeyraj.. who is this man..is he a composer..I have not heard anything about him..which movies?..why the Heck ARR is being compared with him/ ? -Jiban "you can NEVER get better than ARR" --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vinu aryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am just posting my opinion and i know no one will reply u r mail . The thing is Arr's Spine is very strong yaar it wont get shiverred by a copy cat. Who uses songs from westlife ,blue etc and one more thing is that a must to praise someone?? Just think and judge urself the music of Arr and others u will get the answer > > > > > > > From: nikhil_341 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11:02:30 PM > Subject: [arr] why no praise for harris from rahman? > > > i request moderator plz allow me to post this...i am a fan of arr and > have seen him praising MDs like himesh and yuvan..i never read anywhere > any praise from arr for harris...why? is he considering him as the rival? > does the entry and success of harris in tamil film industry send > shivers down the spine of arr?i really want to know...plz give ur > opinions. >
Re: [arr] Re: why no cameo for ARR??
I think, he also had a cameo appearance in Kandukondein Kandukondein... On 11/10/08, Jahanzeb Farooq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oh okay. i only see hindi movies so did not know. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > "rivjot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ohh I have found clip from Kadhal Virus as well :P > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEMi35t9uWA > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > Vithur wrote: > > > > > > He made a Cameo appearance in Kadhal Virus... Kadhir brought him > to the > > > screen > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Jahanzeb Farooq > > wrote: > > > > > > > the other day i was watching Rock On in which Anu Malik has a > cameo > > > > appearance. it came to my mind that despite the fact that ARR is > such > > > > a phenomenal success since a decade and has changed the entire > face of > > > > the bollywood music, but never any film director gave him a > cameo > > > > appearance in films he composed music for. when Subhash Ghai can > > > > appear in all of his films why not he can give a cameo > appearance to > > > > ARR. after all ARR is a big celebrity and lot lot more people > > > > recognize him than Anu Malik or Subhash Ghai etc. > > > > i am just imagining the joy of seeing ARR in cameo role as > himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > regards, > > > Vithur > > > > > > > >
[arr] Re: why no cameo for ARR??
oh okay. i only see hindi movies so did not know. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "rivjot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ohh I have found clip from Kadhal Virus as well :P > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEMi35t9uWA > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur wrote: > > > > He made a Cameo appearance in Kadhal Virus... Kadhir brought him to the > > screen > > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Jahanzeb Farooq > wrote: > > > > > the other day i was watching Rock On in which Anu Malik has a cameo > > > appearance. it came to my mind that despite the fact that ARR is such > > > a phenomenal success since a decade and has changed the entire face of > > > the bollywood music, but never any film director gave him a cameo > > > appearance in films he composed music for. when Subhash Ghai can > > > appear in all of his films why not he can give a cameo appearance to > > > ARR. after all ARR is a big celebrity and lot lot more people > > > recognize him than Anu Malik or Subhash Ghai etc. > > > i am just imagining the joy of seeing ARR in cameo role as himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > regards, > > Vithur > > >
Re: [arr] Re: Why isnt Shreya Ghosal ??
On 11/1/2008 12:30 AM India Time, _anvesh_ wrote: > she also sang the provoked "Alive" song (Hindi version). > What? There was a Hindi version?? Has it been released? Where to find that? Thanks. -- V
Re: [arr] Re: Why isnt Shreya Ghosal ??
she also sang the provoked "Alive" song (Hindi version). On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:20 PM, rivjot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How many songs she has sung for Rahman? Not many... > > 1. Barso Re – Guru > 2. Meri Dost hain -Yuvvraaj (came this year) > 3. Thazhuvuthu – Ah Aah > 4. Azhahinna Azhahi – E20 U18 > 5. Munbe Vaa – Jillunnu Oru Kaadhal > 6. Majjaa Majjaa – Jillunu Oru Kaadhal > > 2 of the songs 'Munbe Va' and 'Barso Re' became huge hits.. I guess we > will see her in Rahman's concerts in upcoming years > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Has Shreya Ghosal participated in any of ARR 's concerts till date ?. I > > havent seen her in any of them. In fact, I was expecting her in Jaipur > > Concert, as the programme schedule had a separate slot for her, the > > immediate next day of ARR 's concert. > > > > She had sung for IR in Jaya TV concerts... > > > > Expecting her to sing for AR in his forthcoming concerts ( if at all > > anything is on the anvil ) > > > > > > > > -- > > regards, > > Vithur > > > > ARR in my Heart; > > His Music in my Blood; > > > > >
[arr] Re: Why isnt Shreya Ghosal ??
How many songs she has sung for Rahman? Not many... 1. Barso Re Guru 2. Meri Dost hain -Yuvvraaj (came this year) 3. Thazhuvuthu Ah Aah 4. Azhahinna Azhahi E20 U18 5. Munbe Vaa Jillunnu Oru Kaadhal 6. Majjaa Majjaa Jillunu Oru Kaadhal 2 of the songs 'Munbe Va' and 'Barso Re' became huge hits.. I guess we will see her in Rahman's concerts in upcoming years --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear All, > > Has Shreya Ghosal participated in any of ARR 's concerts till date ?. I > havent seen her in any of them. In fact, I was expecting her in Jaipur > Concert, as the programme schedule had a separate slot for her, the > immediate next day of ARR 's concert. > > She had sung for IR in Jaya TV concerts... > > Expecting her to sing for AR in his forthcoming concerts ( if at all > anything is on the anvil ) > > > > -- > regards, > Vithur > > ARR in my Heart; > His Music in my Blood; >
[arr] Re: Why did Ghai choose Western classical music as the backdrop?
Rahman is doing something different after a long time.. i mean he always keeps xperementing and he does bring out some new sounds.. but when was the last time he worked with Music as Theme Taal sangamam and Sangamam was Indian classical Taal is a mixture of both ARR has proved his worth in both Indian calssical as well as in western...so lets c how he has done this time.. from wat i have been hearing it sounds Just great.. Indian classical or western I will listen to it as long as it has ARR on the cover.. Cause wit ARR i know i can xpect something different and soem thing classical every time i hear it. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I get it that he wanted to make a movie about music. But, why > couldn't he have chosen Indian classical music? From photos and > promos, the whole music scene looks Western. Why not make a film with > sitar, tabla, sarangi, tanpura, flute, santoor, instead of piano, > violin, choirs? This is INDIA afterall. Oh well, director's freedom > can't be challenged, but choice of music culture is what I question. > > I also feel that Ghai tries to be extra glossy and flashy in his > films, with recent films testifying to more style and less substance, > hence BO failures. Hence, the western classical backdrop is more in > line with his flashy, glossy film-making style. Having Indian > classical music as a core musical backdrop would be too traditional > and in his mind, boring. But, imagine the magic of Rahman's music if > he composed for a film based on Indian classical music. Traditional > Indian music is ARR's forte, not Western classical, even though he > excels in that too. >
[arr] Re: Why did Ghai choose Western classical music as the backdrop?
Its all right Farzad, I have no hard feelings anymore. I know there are some fake members in the group who write bad about ARR and try to provoke others' feelings. Its hard to differentiate between right and wrong. This incident is a good lesson for all of us and tells a lot about how to take criticism properly. As Vijay said, let's wait and watch about Yuvvraj. Pravinder. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Farzad Khaleel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry Pravinder. > > I am just exhausted seeing all the comments after hearing a 50 seconds > trailor. > > Once again Sorrry boss. > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Pravinder Sheoran < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Farzad, > > I was shocked and stunned when i read your message and your comment, > > "are you the assistant of joginder tuteja" about me. > > > > Well man, first of all just to open your eyes, please read the > > following message that I wrote when Jodhaa Akbar was released and find > > out my relationship with joginder tuteja: > > > > "Teach IndiaFM a lesson, write to Editor" [Message no. 88483] > > > > Now, my following 3 messages will clarify your allegation that I wrote > > same stuff when Guru was released: > > > > 1. GURU : After watching 4th time (For Rahman this time) [Message no. > > 75211] > > 2. Extension: GURU : After watching 4th time (For Rahman this time) > > [Message no. 75220] > > 3. (semi-arr) GURU : After watching 3rd time (only for Rajiv Menon) > > [Message no. 75180]. > > > > How could you write, "Duplicate post. Pravinder, same comment came > > out when Guru came out...". Did you put any proof that i said so? > > Did you even bother finding out anything about me before writing your > > message? > > > > If I had known that I'll have to pay such a big price of writing that > > I do not like the music of "Yuvvraj trailer", I would have never ever > > written that mail. > > > > Pravinder. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > > "Farzad Khaleel" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Duplicate post. Pravinder, same comment came out when Guru came > > out... > > > > > > All th awrd ppls were wrong, they gave away all the awards to > > Guru and > > > also indeed Outstanding achivemnt by an Indian by IIFA :P > > > > > > are you the assistant of joginder tuteja :P > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:56 AM, Pravinder Sheoran < > > > pravindersheoran@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Chord and all, > > > > I completely agree with chord. > > > > After seeing the trailers, i have no doubts left that there is nothing > > > > to hope out of this movie. > > > > Also, i am sorry to say but the music in the trailer is not impressive > > > > at all. > > > > It looks like Ghai has intervened too much and have forced ARR to > > > > commercialize his music. > > > > ARR himself has also been into commercialization than he ever was. > > > > First JTYJN (I still listen JA songs more than JTYJN) and now Yuvvraj. > > > > Upcoming Gajni will also be more commercialized coz of Aamir factor. > > > > So all we are left with is Private album of ARR and Dilli 6. > > > > > > > > My prediction about Yuvvraj could be wrong when music releases (I pray > > > > god I'm wrong), but trailer of Yuvvraj sugests something else. > > > > > > > > Pravinder. > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > "Chord" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I get it that he wanted to make a movie about music. But, why > > > > > couldn't he have chosen Indian classical music? From photos and > > > > > promos, the whole music scene looks Western. Why not make a film > > with > > > > > sitar, tabla, sarangi, tanpura, flute, santoor, instead of piano, > > > > > violin, choirs? This is INDIA afterall. Oh well, director's freedom > > > > > can't be challenged, but choice of music culture is what I question. > > > > > > > > > > I also feel that Ghai tries to be extra glossy and flashy in his > > > > > films, with recent films testifying to more style and less > > substance, > > > > > hence BO failures. Hence, the western classical backdrop is more in > > > > > line with his flashy, glossy film-making style. Having Indian > > > > > classical music as a core musical backdrop would be too traditional > > > > > and in his mind, boring. But, imagine the magic of Rahman's music if > > > > > he composed for a film based on Indian classical music. Traditional > > > > > Indian music is ARR's forte, not Western classical, even though he > > > > > excels in that too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Farzad Khaleel > > > Webmaster > > > http://rahmaniac.co.nr > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Farzad Khaleel > Webmaster > http://rahmaniac.co.nr >
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Sorry Pravinder. I am just exhausted seeing all the comments after hearing a 50 seconds trailor. Once again Sorrry boss. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Pravinder Sheoran < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Farzad, > I was shocked and stunned when i read your message and your comment, > "are you the assistant of joginder tuteja" about me. > > Well man, first of all just to open your eyes, please read the > following message that I wrote when Jodhaa Akbar was released and find > out my relationship with joginder tuteja: > > "Teach IndiaFM a lesson, write to Editor" [Message no. 88483] > > Now, my following 3 messages will clarify your allegation that I wrote > same stuff when Guru was released: > > 1. GURU : After watching 4th time (For Rahman this time) [Message no. > 75211] > 2. Extension: GURU : After watching 4th time (For Rahman this time) > [Message no. 75220] > 3. (semi-arr) GURU : After watching 3rd time (only for Rajiv Menon) > [Message no. 75180]. > > How could you write, "Duplicate post. Pravinder, same comment came > out when Guru came out...". Did you put any proof that i said so? > Did you even bother finding out anything about me before writing your > message? > > If I had known that I'll have to pay such a big price of writing that > I do not like the music of "Yuvvraj trailer", I would have never ever > written that mail. > > Pravinder. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > "Farzad Khaleel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Duplicate post. Pravinder, same comment came out when Guru came > out... > > > > All th awrd ppls were wrong, they gave away all the awards to > Guru and > > also indeed Outstanding achivemnt by an Indian by IIFA :P > > > > are you the assistant of joginder tuteja :P > > > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:56 AM, Pravinder Sheoran < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Chord and all, > > > I completely agree with chord. > > > After seeing the trailers, i have no doubts left that there is nothing > > > to hope out of this movie. > > > Also, i am sorry to say but the music in the trailer is not impressive > > > at all. > > > It looks like Ghai has intervened too much and have forced ARR to > > > commercialize his music. > > > ARR himself has also been into commercialization than he ever was. > > > First JTYJN (I still listen JA songs more than JTYJN) and now Yuvvraj. > > > Upcoming Gajni will also be more commercialized coz of Aamir factor. > > > So all we are left with is Private album of ARR and Dilli 6. > > > > > > My prediction about Yuvvraj could be wrong when music releases (I pray > > > god I'm wrong), but trailer of Yuvvraj sugests something else. > > > > > > Pravinder. > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > "Chord" wrote: > > > > > > > > I get it that he wanted to make a movie about music. But, why > > > > couldn't he have chosen Indian classical music? From photos and > > > > promos, the whole music scene looks Western. Why not make a film > with > > > > sitar, tabla, sarangi, tanpura, flute, santoor, instead of piano, > > > > violin, choirs? This is INDIA afterall. Oh well, director's freedom > > > > can't be challenged, but choice of music culture is what I question. > > > > > > > > I also feel that Ghai tries to be extra glossy and flashy in his > > > > films, with recent films testifying to more style and less > substance, > > > > hence BO failures. Hence, the western classical backdrop is more in > > > > line with his flashy, glossy film-making style. Having Indian > > > > classical music as a core musical backdrop would be too traditional > > > > and in his mind, boring. But, imagine the magic of Rahman's music if > > > > he composed for a film based on Indian classical music. Traditional > > > > Indian music is ARR's forte, not Western classical, even though he > > > > excels in that too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Farzad Khaleel > > Webmaster > > http://rahmaniac.co.nr > > > > > -- Farzad Khaleel Webmaster http://rahmaniac.co.nr
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Why Ghai should not??...It's my question.. what is wrong with u guys?...Tell me in detail what's wrong in 'western classical ' music..Why ARR should not compose tunes in western music?.. I challenge very few still listens 'Zubeida' which is complete 'Indian Classical'..grow up ppl..do not be such narrow minded.. Jiban Dass --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Pravinder Sheoran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Farzad, > I was shocked and stunned when i read your message and your comment, > "are you the assistant of joginder tuteja" about me. > > Well man, first of all just to open your eyes, please read the > following message that I wrote when Jodhaa Akbar was released and find > out my relationship with joginder tuteja: > > "Teach IndiaFM a lesson, write to Editor" [Message no. 88483] > > Now, my following 3 messages will clarify your allegation that I wrote > same stuff when Guru was released: > > 1. GURU : After watching 4th time (For Rahman this time) [Message no. > 75211] > 2. Extension: GURU : After watching 4th time (For Rahman this time) > [Message no. 75220] > 3. (semi-arr) GURU : After watching 3rd time (only for Rajiv Menon) > [Message no. 75180]. > > How could you write, "Duplicate post. Pravinder, same comment came > out when Guru came out...". Did you put any proof that i said so? > Did you even bother finding out anything about me before writing your > message? > > If I had known that I'll have to pay such a big price of writing that > I do not like the music of "Yuvvraj trailer", I would have never ever > written that mail. > > Pravinder. > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Farzad Khaleel" > wrote: > > > > Duplicate post. Pravinder, same comment came out when Guru came > out... > > > > All th awrd ppls were wrong, they gave away all the awards to > Guru and > > also indeed Outstanding achivemnt by an Indian by IIFA :P > > > > are you the assistant of joginder tuteja :P > > > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:56 AM, Pravinder Sheoran < > > pravindersheoran@> wrote: > > > > > Hi Chord and all, > > > I completely agree with chord. > > > After seeing the trailers, i have no doubts left that there is nothing > > > to hope out of this movie. > > > Also, i am sorry to say but the music in the trailer is not impressive > > > at all. > > > It looks like Ghai has intervened too much and have forced ARR to > > > commercialize his music. > > > ARR himself has also been into commercialization than he ever was. > > > First JTYJN (I still listen JA songs more than JTYJN) and now Yuvvraj. > > > Upcoming Gajni will also be more commercialized coz of Aamir factor. > > > So all we are left with is Private album of ARR and Dilli 6. > > > > > > My prediction about Yuvvraj could be wrong when music releases (I pray > > > god I'm wrong), but trailer of Yuvvraj sugests something else. > > > > > > Pravinder. > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > > > "Chord" wrote: > > > > > > > > I get it that he wanted to make a movie about music. But, why > > > > couldn't he have chosen Indian classical music? From photos and > > > > promos, the whole music scene looks Western. Why not make a film > with > > > > sitar, tabla, sarangi, tanpura, flute, santoor, instead of piano, > > > > violin, choirs? This is INDIA afterall. Oh well, director's freedom > > > > can't be challenged, but choice of music culture is what I question. > > > > > > > > I also feel that Ghai tries to be extra glossy and flashy in his > > > > films, with recent films testifying to more style and less > substance, > > > > hence BO failures. Hence, the western classical backdrop is more in > > > > line with his flashy, glossy film-making style. Having Indian > > > > classical music as a core musical backdrop would be too traditional > > > > and in his mind, boring. But, imagine the magic of Rahman's music if > > > > he composed for a film based on Indian classical music. Traditional > > > > Indian music is ARR's forte, not Western classical, even though he > > > > excels in that too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Farzad Khaleel > > Webmaster > > http://rahmaniac.co.nr > > >
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Hi Farzad, I was shocked and stunned when i read your message and your comment, "are you the assistant of joginder tuteja" about me. Well man, first of all just to open your eyes, please read the following message that I wrote when Jodhaa Akbar was released and find out my relationship with joginder tuteja: "Teach IndiaFM a lesson, write to Editor" [Message no. 88483] Now, my following 3 messages will clarify your allegation that I wrote same stuff when Guru was released: 1. GURU : After watching 4th time (For Rahman this time) [Message no. 75211] 2. Extension: GURU : After watching 4th time (For Rahman this time) [Message no. 75220] 3. (semi-arr) GURU : After watching 3rd time (only for Rajiv Menon) [Message no. 75180]. How could you write, "Duplicate post. Pravinder, same comment came out when Guru came out...". Did you put any proof that i said so? Did you even bother finding out anything about me before writing your message? If I had known that I'll have to pay such a big price of writing that I do not like the music of "Yuvvraj trailer", I would have never ever written that mail. Pravinder. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Farzad Khaleel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Duplicate post. Pravinder, same comment came out when Guru came out... > > All th awrd ppls were wrong, they gave away all the awards to Guru and > also indeed Outstanding achivemnt by an Indian by IIFA :P > > are you the assistant of joginder tuteja :P > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:56 AM, Pravinder Sheoran < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Chord and all, > > I completely agree with chord. > > After seeing the trailers, i have no doubts left that there is nothing > > to hope out of this movie. > > Also, i am sorry to say but the music in the trailer is not impressive > > at all. > > It looks like Ghai has intervened too much and have forced ARR to > > commercialize his music. > > ARR himself has also been into commercialization than he ever was. > > First JTYJN (I still listen JA songs more than JTYJN) and now Yuvvraj. > > Upcoming Gajni will also be more commercialized coz of Aamir factor. > > So all we are left with is Private album of ARR and Dilli 6. > > > > My prediction about Yuvvraj could be wrong when music releases (I pray > > god I'm wrong), but trailer of Yuvvraj sugests something else. > > > > Pravinder. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > > "Chord" wrote: > > > > > > I get it that he wanted to make a movie about music. But, why > > > couldn't he have chosen Indian classical music? From photos and > > > promos, the whole music scene looks Western. Why not make a film with > > > sitar, tabla, sarangi, tanpura, flute, santoor, instead of piano, > > > violin, choirs? This is INDIA afterall. Oh well, director's freedom > > > can't be challenged, but choice of music culture is what I question. > > > > > > I also feel that Ghai tries to be extra glossy and flashy in his > > > films, with recent films testifying to more style and less substance, > > > hence BO failures. Hence, the western classical backdrop is more in > > > line with his flashy, glossy film-making style. Having Indian > > > classical music as a core musical backdrop would be too traditional > > > and in his mind, boring. But, imagine the magic of Rahman's music if > > > he composed for a film based on Indian classical music. Traditional > > > Indian music is ARR's forte, not Western classical, even though he > > > excels in that too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Farzad Khaleel > Webmaster > http://rahmaniac.co.nr >
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Coz Subhash Ghai is running short of ideas. And as a storyteller, he never
was original nor has he matured with time.
'Yuvraaj' is supposed to be a rip off of the hollywood classic 'Amadeus'
(based on western classical music) and Ghai is the last the one to bend the
genre and convert it to Indian classical. The same movie was adapted a year
ago in a lousy way by some filmmaker in the form of a disaster called 'Shaka
laka boom' with horrifying music.
But what's laudable about Ghai is his music sense. Even his last outing in
'Black & White' had great numbers by Sukhwinder.
So with Rahman re-uniting full fledgedly with Ghai in 'Yuvraaj' ('Kisna'
seemed like a compromise...with both of them struggling to sort time to work
together) fireworks are bound to happen!
Waiting for the album with fingers crossed..!
Why did Ghai choose Western classical music as the backdrop?
Posted by: "Chord" [EMAIL PROTECTED] purevibz
Fri Oct 3, 2008 6:44 pm (PDT)
I get it that he wanted to make a movie about music. But, why
couldn't he have chosen Indian classical music? From photos and
promos, the whole music scene looks Western. Why not make a film with
sitar, tabla, sarangi, tanpura, flute, santoor, instead of piano,
violin, choirs? This is INDIA afterall. Oh well, director's freedom
can't be challenged, but choice of music culture is what I question.
I also feel that Ghai tries to be extra glossy and flashy in his
films, with recent films testifying to more style and less substance,
hence BO failures. Hence, the western classical backdrop is more in
line with his flashy, glossy film-making style. Having Indian
classical music as a core musical backdrop would be too traditional
and in his mind, boring. But, imagine the magic of Rahman's music if
he composed for a film based on Indian classical music. Traditional
Indian music is ARR's forte, not Western classical, even though he
excels in that too.
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Duplicate post. Pravinder, same comment came out when Guru came out... All th awrd ppls were wrong, they gave away all the awards to Guru and also indeed Outstanding achivemnt by an Indian by IIFA :P are you the assistant of joginder tuteja :P On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:56 AM, Pravinder Sheoran < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Chord and all, > I completely agree with chord. > After seeing the trailers, i have no doubts left that there is nothing > to hope out of this movie. > Also, i am sorry to say but the music in the trailer is not impressive > at all. > It looks like Ghai has intervened too much and have forced ARR to > commercialize his music. > ARR himself has also been into commercialization than he ever was. > First JTYJN (I still listen JA songs more than JTYJN) and now Yuvvraj. > Upcoming Gajni will also be more commercialized coz of Aamir factor. > So all we are left with is Private album of ARR and Dilli 6. > > My prediction about Yuvvraj could be wrong when music releases (I pray > god I'm wrong), but trailer of Yuvvraj sugests something else. > > Pravinder. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I get it that he wanted to make a movie about music. But, why > > couldn't he have chosen Indian classical music? From photos and > > promos, the whole music scene looks Western. Why not make a film with > > sitar, tabla, sarangi, tanpura, flute, santoor, instead of piano, > > violin, choirs? This is INDIA afterall. Oh well, director's freedom > > can't be challenged, but choice of music culture is what I question. > > > > I also feel that Ghai tries to be extra glossy and flashy in his > > films, with recent films testifying to more style and less substance, > > hence BO failures. Hence, the western classical backdrop is more in > > line with his flashy, glossy film-making style. Having Indian > > classical music as a core musical backdrop would be too traditional > > and in his mind, boring. But, imagine the magic of Rahman's music if > > he composed for a film based on Indian classical music. Traditional > > Indian music is ARR's forte, not Western classical, even though he > > excels in that too. > > > > > -- Farzad Khaleel Webmaster http://rahmaniac.co.nr
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Hi Chord and all, I completely agree with chord. After seeing the trailers, i have no doubts left that there is nothing to hope out of this movie. Also, i am sorry to say but the music in the trailer is not impressive at all. It looks like Ghai has intervened too much and have forced ARR to commercialize his music. ARR himself has also been into commercialization than he ever was. First JTYJN (I still listen JA songs more than JTYJN) and now Yuvvraj. Upcoming Gajni will also be more commercialized coz of Aamir factor. So all we are left with is Private album of ARR and Dilli 6. My prediction about Yuvvraj could be wrong when music releases (I pray god I'm wrong), but trailer of Yuvvraj sugests something else. Pravinder. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I get it that he wanted to make a movie about music. But, why > couldn't he have chosen Indian classical music? From photos and > promos, the whole music scene looks Western. Why not make a film with > sitar, tabla, sarangi, tanpura, flute, santoor, instead of piano, > violin, choirs? This is INDIA afterall. Oh well, director's freedom > can't be challenged, but choice of music culture is what I question. > > I also feel that Ghai tries to be extra glossy and flashy in his > films, with recent films testifying to more style and less substance, > hence BO failures. Hence, the western classical backdrop is more in > line with his flashy, glossy film-making style. Having Indian > classical music as a core musical backdrop would be too traditional > and in his mind, boring. But, imagine the magic of Rahman's music if > he composed for a film based on Indian classical music. Traditional > Indian music is ARR's forte, not Western classical, even though he > excels in that too. >
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They have been sayin movie/soundtrack is blend of both Western and Indian classical music. Anil Kapoor plays the role of classical singer in the movie, so I am sure there will also be few classical songs as well. Watch out for more promos or for soundtrack to release. It is not wise to decide whats hidden in the box from its outside look :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I get it that he wanted to make a movie about music. But, why > couldn't he have chosen Indian classical music? From photos and > promos, the whole music scene looks Western. Why not make a film with > sitar, tabla, sarangi, tanpura, flute, santoor, instead of piano, > violin, choirs? This is INDIA afterall. Oh well, director's freedom > can't be challenged, but choice of music culture is what I question. > > I also feel that Ghai tries to be extra glossy and flashy in his > films, with recent films testifying to more style and less substance, > hence BO failures. Hence, the western classical backdrop is more in > line with his flashy, glossy film-making style. Having Indian > classical music as a core musical backdrop would be too traditional > and in his mind, boring. But, imagine the magic of Rahman's music if > he composed for a film based on Indian classical music. Traditional > Indian music is ARR's forte, not Western classical, even though he > excels in that too. >
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What about TAAL?? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I get it that he wanted to make a movie about music. But, why > couldn't he have chosen Indian classical music? From photos and > promos, the whole music scene looks Western. Why not make a film with > sitar, tabla, sarangi, tanpura, flute, santoor, instead of piano, > violin, choirs? This is INDIA afterall. Oh well, director's freedom > can't be challenged, but choice of music culture is what I question. > > I also feel that Ghai tries to be extra glossy and flashy in his > films, with recent films testifying to more style and less substance, > hence BO failures. Hence, the western classical backdrop is more in > line with his flashy, glossy film-making style. Having Indian > classical music as a core musical backdrop would be too traditional > and in his mind, boring. But, imagine the magic of Rahman's music if > he composed for a film based on Indian classical music. Traditional > Indian music is ARR's forte, not Western classical, even though he > excels in that too. >
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that was wat i was thinking as well... maybe he felt he couldnt make any movies more grandeur than Devdas... thus he doesnt wanna take the risk... i think Devdas shows Indian classical culture at its best... so maybe Ghai wants to show something else to the audience --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I get it that he wanted to make a movie about music. But, why > couldn't he have chosen Indian classical music? From photos and > promos, the whole music scene looks Western. Why not make a film with > sitar, tabla, sarangi, tanpura, flute, santoor, instead of piano, > violin, choirs? This is INDIA afterall. Oh well, director's freedom > can't be challenged, but choice of music culture is what I question. > > I also feel that Ghai tries to be extra glossy and flashy in his > films, with recent films testifying to more style and less substance, > hence BO failures. Hence, the western classical backdrop is more in > line with his flashy, glossy film-making style. Having Indian > classical music as a core musical backdrop would be too traditional > and in his mind, boring. But, imagine the magic of Rahman's music if > he composed for a film based on Indian classical music. Traditional > Indian music is ARR's forte, not Western classical, even though he > excels in that too. >
