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Sharon, Representative Jeffeson of New Orleans he of the money in the fridge is also a reverend.? Norman HSU is also deeply religious.? He's a Mooney I think. God bless! -Original Message- From: 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 3:54 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Sounds like the Word of God; something a conservative, wouldn't know or practice! They worship at the altar, located on WALL street! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Religion and Conservative just seem to go together. Huh? Does this sound like a Republican?: 21 Jesus said to him, If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me. This, a Republican, could NEVER do! Does this sound like a Republican?: 25 For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. They'd PAY someone then claim the credit! Does this sound like a Republican?: 18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed HELL, no! Does this sound like a Republican?: 12 He said also to the man who had invited him, When you give a dinner or a banquet, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your kinsmen or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return, and you be repaid. 13 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, 14 and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just. That would be doing the right thing and being humble! Does this sound like a Republican?: [13] No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. WANNA BET? On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:14 PM, Mike Hemeon wrote: No one monopolizes either. Liberals, or Progressives, signify a free for all lifestyle to me based on my many years of life experience and Republicans are more conservative. Not when they're behind closed doors! They're down right FREAKY! See the rest room incident, see Mark Foley and those racy pages! Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. I've burned a bra or two! One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. Better than having Bush Co., keeping me alive for 30 more years and NOT paying the bill! I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. That's just what I plan to do! Yahoo! Groups Links Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Sharon, You seem to be mighty bitter.? The democrats aim to keep the poor as poor.? Just enough entitlements to keep them poor.? They believe in the welfare nation.? Glad to see you love them so but please don't make blanket half truth lies about republicans. Semper Fi! -Original Message- From: 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 3:41 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God While Republicans profess to have a lock on God and Christianity, nothing could be furthur from the truth! Republicans ran on the so-called Christian ticket, beating their chest, that Democrats were Liberal, meaning they were in favor of a woman's right to choose, stem cell research, equal more than civil rights, which is better, etc. Liberals are inclusive, tolerant and forward thinking, whereas, Conservatives are envious, mean-spirited, racist, greedy, draft-dodgers, never-served, less-educated and are the equivalent of countrified hill-billies, in Brooks-Brothers suits! A bunch of hypocrites, who get their hands caught in the cookie jar and make all kinds of excuses for themselves! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although one could also say practice what you preach. There's little doubt to most of the country that Republicans have been far more hypocritical in the way they live their lives. Every time a Republican gets caught doing something like adultry or prostitution it looks far worse than when a Democrat gets caught because it just reaffirms the way some of us feel - that Republicans USE RELIGION rather than our truly religious. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, While I would agree that liberals have no god is a blanket statement and is probably not 100% accurate. However, one has to agree that on the whole liberals have been far more anti-god than conservatives -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Yahoo! Groups Links Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Sharon, Does Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broderick ring a bell.? Yeah the liberals are such a prize. -Original Message- From: 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 4:18 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, Kind of like that Representative Jefferson from New Orleans.? He is a Reverend of some sort.? He got caught with 30,000 wrapped in plastic bags...in his refrigerator!? Oh but wait he was a democrat! Kind of like Bob Packwood, he put his hand on a womans leg and had to resign, versus Bill Clinton who allegedly raped a chick (Juanota Broderick) and is given an atta boy by the press. Where are all the bleeding heart homosexual lovers when it comes to supporting Senator Craig.? Now who is the hypocrite? I'm one! Not bleeding heart, just tolerant, of those different from me. You know what Sen, Craig's problem? He got caught cold-handed and froze! He was guilty, caught red-faced and being the hypocrite, he is, after thumping his bible-belt chest, after vetoing every pro-gay bill, is gay himself! The height of hypocrisy! If Bill Jefferson is guilty, so be it. Funny, the FBI knew where to look, for the money! What about Vitter of La., another hypocrite! I have sinned! No, you got caught with your hypocritical pants, DOWN! This guy and Sen. Craig, went after Bill Clinton, as did Newt the lover Gingrich, screwed his assistant, while his wife lay dying of cancer, and Henry I have an illegitimate son, Hyde, ALL while they were impeaching Bill Clinton, while performing sexual acts with women, NOT thier wife! So, that said, is being Conservative better? I'll stay a swinging liberal, who'll say, Yeah, I did it! So what? I'll just go to confession, make a good act of contrition and try to do better! Catholics get drunk on Friday, go to confession on Saturday, then attend Mass and receive Holy Communion, on Sunday! Any questions? Yahoo! Groups Links Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Sharon, Oh so the FBI new where to look in Jefferson's fridge so it was a plant?? Get real.? That's as crazy as Bill Clinton allegedly having a illegitimate son by the name of Danny Williams from a black prostitute. With regards to Craig, you really know how to twist it.? All the bleeding heart liberals came to the defense of McGreevey even though? he got caught...if you recall he got caught using his influence to get a job in the (state homeland defense agency) for his gay lover.? I fought for your right to spout off but I would request you be more fair and balanced. Typical liberal hypocrite. Semper Fi! -Original Message- From: 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 4:18 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, Kind of like that Representative Jefferson from New Orleans.? He is a Reverend of some sort.? He got caught with 30,000 wrapped in plastic bags...in his refrigerator!? Oh but wait he was a democrat! Kind of like Bob Packwood, he put his hand on a womans leg and had to resign, versus Bill Clinton who allegedly raped a chick (Juanota Broderick) and is given an atta boy by the press. Where are all the bleeding heart homosexual lovers when it comes to supporting Senator Craig.? Now who is the hypocrite? I'm one! Not bleeding heart, just tolerant, of those different from me. You know what Sen, Craig's problem? He got caught cold-handed and froze! He was guilty, caught red-faced and being the hypocrite, he is, after thumping his bible-belt chest, after vetoing every pro-gay bill, is gay himself! The height of hypocrisy! If Bill Jefferson is guilty, so be it. Funny, the FBI knew where to look, for the money! What about Vitter of La., another hypocrite! I have sinned! No, you got caught with your hypocritical pants, DOWN! This guy and Sen. Craig, went after Bill Clinton, as did Newt the lover Gingrich, screwed his assistant, while his wife lay dying of cancer, and Henry I have an illegitimate son, Hyde, ALL while they were impeaching Bill Clinton, while performing sexual acts with women, NOT thier wife! So, that said, is being Conservative better? I'll stay a swinging liberal, who'll say, Yeah, I did it! So what? I'll just go to confession, make a good act of contrition and try to do better! Catholics get drunk on Friday, go to confession on Saturday, then attend Mass and receive Holy Communion, on Sunday! Any questions? Yahoo! Groups Links Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Liberals don't have to defend Craig. He's all yours, dude. Suck it up. On Sep 14, 2007, at 7:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon, Oh so the FBI new where to look in Jefferson's fridge so it was a plant? Get real. That's as crazy as Bill Clinton allegedly having a illegitimate son by the name of Danny Williams from a black prostitute. With regards to Craig, you really know how to twist it. All the bleeding heart liberals came to the defense of McGreevey even though he got caught...if you recall he got caught using his influence to get a job in the (state homeland defense agency) for his gay lover. I fought for your right to spout off but I would request you be more fair and balanced. Typical liberal hypocrite. Semper Fi! -Original Message- From: 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 4:18 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Gary, Kind of like that Representative Jefferson from New Orleans.? He is a Reverend of some sort.? He got caught with 30,000 wrapped in plastic bags...in his refrigerator!? Oh but wait he was a democrat! Kind of like Bob Packwood, he put his hand on a womans leg and had to resign, versus Bill Clinton who allegedly raped a chick (Juanota Broderick) and is given an atta boy by the press. Where are all the bleeding heart homosexual lovers when it comes to supporting Senator Craig.? Now who is the hypocrite? I'm one! Not bleeding heart, just tolerant, of those different from me. You know what Sen, Craig's problem? He got caught cold-handed and froze! He was guilty, caught red-faced and being the hypocrite, he is, after thumping his bible-belt chest, after vetoing every pro-gay bill, is gay himself! The height of hypocrisy! If Bill Jefferson is guilty, so be it. Funny, the FBI knew where to look, for the money! What about Vitter of La., another hypocrite! I have sinned! No, you got caught with your hypocritical pants, DOWN! This guy and Sen. Craig, went after Bill Clinton, as did Newt the lover Gingrich, screwed his assistant, while his wife lay dying of cancer, and Henry I have an illegitimate son, Hyde, ALL while they were impeaching Bill Clinton, while performing sexual acts with women, NOT thier wife! So, that said, is being Conservative better? I'll stay a swinging liberal, who'll say, Yeah, I did it! So what? I'll just go to confession, make a good act of contrition and try to do better! Catholics get drunk on Friday, go to confession on Saturday, then attend Mass and receive Holy Communion, on Sunday! Any questions? online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo!
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John, I'm not at all defending Craig.? I am pointing out the lack of the bleeding hearts and the gays coming to his defense.? That is a bit hypocritical when they did come out in support of McGreevey. -Original Message- From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 7:53 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Liberals don't have to defend Craig. He's all yours, dude. Suck it up. On Sep 14, 2007, at 7:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon, ? Oh so the FBI new where to look in Jefferson's fridge so it was a plant?? Get real.?? That's as crazy as Bill Clinton allegedly having a illegitimate son by the name of Danny Williams from a black prostitute. With regards to Craig, you really know how to twist it.? All the bleeding heart liberals came to the defense of McGreevey even though? he got caught...if you recall he got caught using his influence to get a job in the (state homeland defense agency) for his gay lover.?? I fought for your right to spout off but I would request you be more fair and balanced. Typical liberal hypocrite. Semper Fi! -Original Message- From: 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 4:18 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free?AOL Mail! Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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You're asking someone else to defend him. Unfortunately, for you, the only people who would be called to defend him are other Republicans. No one else would be expected to defend Craig. Except by you. It's called a strawman. Throwing up a false choice. The choice is Republicans defend him or abandon him, not Republicans defend him or Democrats defend him. Craig said he's not gay (we've been here before doc, and it's what makes your postings so tedious) so there would be no call for gay people to come to his defense. The Log Republicans did because he's Republican, just like they foolishly defend all other Republicans. On Sep 14, 2007, at 8:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I'm not at all defending Craig. I am pointing out the lack of the bleeding hearts and the gays coming to his defense. That is a bit hypocritical when they did come out in support of McGreevey. -Original Message- From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 7:53 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Liberals don't have to defend Craig. He's all yours, dude. Suck it up. On Sep 14, 2007, at 7:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon, Oh so the FBI new where to look in Jefferson's fridge so it was a plant? Get real. That's as crazy as Bill Clinton allegedly having a illegitimate son by the name of Danny Williams from a black prostitute. With regards to Craig, you really know how to twist it. All the bleeding heart liberals came to the defense of McGreevey even though he got caught...if you recall he got caught using his influence to get a job in the (state homeland defense agency) for his gay lover. I fought for your right to spout off but I would request you be more fair and balanced. Typical liberal hypocrite. Semper Fi! -Original Message- From: 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 4:18 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Gary, Kind of like that Representative Jefferson from New Orleans.? He is a Reverend of some sort.? He got caught with 30,000 wrapped in plastic bags...in his refrigerator!? Oh but wait he was a democrat! Kind of like Bob Packwood, he put his hand on a womans leg and had to resign, versus Bill Clinton who allegedly raped a chick (Juanota Broderick) and is given an atta boy by the press. Where are all the bleeding heart homosexual lovers when it comes to supporting Senator Craig.? Now who is the hypocrite? I'm one! Not bleeding heart, just tolerant, of those different from me. You know what Sen, Craig's problem? He got caught cold-handed and froze! He was guilty, caught red-faced and being the hypocrite, he is, after thumping his bible-belt chest, after vetoing every pro-gay bill, is gay himself! The height of hypocrisy! If Bill Jefferson is guilty, so be it. Funny, the FBI knew where to look, for the money! What about Vitter of La., another hypocrite! I have sinned! No, you got caught with your hypocritical pants, DOWN! This guy and Sen. Craig, went after Bill Clinton, as did Newt the lover Gingrich, screwed his assistant, while his wife lay dying of cancer, and Henry I have an illegitimate son, Hyde, ALL while they were impeaching Bill Clinton, while performing sexual acts with women, NOT thier wife! So, that said, is being Conservative better? I'll stay a swinging liberal, who'll say, Yeah, I did it! So what? I'll just go to confession, make a good act of contrition and try to do better! Catholics get drunk on Friday, go to confession on Saturday, then attend Mass and receive Holy Communion, on Sunday! Any questions? online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo!
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Like Faux Noise would ADMIT it? On Sep 13, 2007, at 7:40 AM, justifiedright wrote: AsburyCouple I gave examples of the MSM making up stories and ADMITTING to doing it. Do you have anything on Fox that comes close? I'm sure someone on this board is going to link to some left wing site that will say they don't like Fox. That's not the point. I'm talking about admitted examples of making stuff up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom - I'll buy that both sides of the media spectrum have acted very poorly and at times have not served the public by reporting things other than the truth. But please don't insult everyone's intelligence by saying that Rush and Fox don't make things up. I was with you until you went there, at which point your entire argument was invalidated... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so... Gary, CBS did Dan Rather's forged document show. NBC blew up a truck with a device pretending the truck had a problem. Reuters got caught repeatedly in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos New York Times colunist Jayson Blair simply made up stories Associated Press got caught in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos Fox News and Rush don't make things up. The mainsteam media has been caught making things up and admitting it. I'll take Fox News for integrity any day.
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And Dan Rather's documents aside, where was George Bush during his TANG service? Just as the Wing Nut Wurlitzer wanted, that issue was completely abandoned. On Sep 13, 2007, at 7:40 AM, justifiedright wrote: AsburyCouple I gave examples of the MSM making up stories and ADMITTING to doing it. Do you have anything on Fox that comes close? I'm sure someone on this board is going to link to some left wing site that will say they don't like Fox. That's not the point. I'm talking about admitted examples of making stuff up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom - I'll buy that both sides of the media spectrum have acted very poorly and at times have not served the public by reporting things other than the truth. But please don't insult everyone's intelligence by saying that Rush and Fox don't make things up. I was with you until you went there, at which point your entire argument was invalidated... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so... Gary, CBS did Dan Rather's forged document show. NBC blew up a truck with a device pretending the truck had a problem. Reuters got caught repeatedly in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos New York Times colunist Jayson Blair simply made up stories Associated Press got caught in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos Fox News and Rush don't make things up. The mainsteam media has been caught making things up and admitting it. I'll take Fox News for integrity any day.
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This is what Mort Kondracke said yesterday about the Military Commissions Act, while he sat next to Fox News anchor Brit Hume and Fred Barnes, neither of whom contested what he said: MORT KONDRACKE: Well, as to that human rights watch spokesperson, it's just false that this is — you can lock them up and throw away the key is not correct. I mean, these detainees have a right to go to a military — they have been tried in a military tribunal. The case goes on appeal to the U.S. district — the Circuit Court of appeals for the District of Columbia, second highest court in the land, which reviews the evidence. And so there is judicial review of a conviction, at least, and so, you know, it's just flatly false. What is flatly false is what Kondracke told Fox viewers about the Military Commissions Act. It is true that the Act creates military commissions and establishes rules for those commissions in the event that the President wants a certain detainee tried, convicted and punished (almost certainly execution). Not even the Bush-led U.S. will openly execute detainees without a finding that they are guilty of terrorism. The commissions exist so that the Executive branch can impose sentence (such as the death sentence) on detainees who are found guilty of engaging in terrorism (or some other war crime). But there is no right for detainees to be tried before a commission, and there is no obligation for the President to bring any detainee before a military commission. If the President does not want to obtain a finding of guilt and impose punishment, he has no reason to bring them before a military commission. He can just keep them detained forever without any finding of guilt and without any punishment being imposed (just as many of the Guantanamo detainees, and even U.S. citizens, have been kept in cages for years with no finding of any kind of guilt). On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:10 AM, justifiedright wrote: Any examples of them making stuff up where they didn't admit to it? I don't think there are any. I gave you several in the MSM. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For years professional wrestling wouldn't admit that they weren't really fighting either. The fact that they wouldn't admit it didn't mean it was real. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: AsburyCouple I gave examples of the MSM making up stories and ADMITTING to doing it. Do you have anything on Fox that comes close? I'm sure someone on this board is going to link to some left wing site that will say they don't like Fox. That's not the point. I'm talking about admitted examples of making stuff up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: Tom - I'll buy that both sides of the media spectrum have acted very poorly and at times have not served the public by reporting things other than the truth. But please don't insult everyone's intelligence by saying that Rush and Fox don't make things up. I was with you until you went there, at which point your entire argument was invalidated... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so... Gary, CBS did Dan Rather's forged document show. NBC blew up a truck with a device pretending the truck had a problem. Reuters got caught repeatedly in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos New York Times colunist Jayson Blair simply made up stories Associated Press got caught in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos Fox News and Rush don't make things up. The mainsteam media has been caught making things up and admitting it. I'll take Fox News for integrity any day. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUxQadgSkoA On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:10 AM, justifiedright wrote: Any examples of them making stuff up where they didn't admit to it? I don't think there are any. I gave you several in the MSM. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For years professional wrestling wouldn't admit that they weren't really fighting either. The fact that they wouldn't admit it didn't mean it was real. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: AsburyCouple I gave examples of the MSM making up stories and ADMITTING to doing it. Do you have anything on Fox that comes close? I'm sure someone on this board is going to link to some left wing site that will say they don't like Fox. That's not the point. I'm talking about admitted examples of making stuff up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: Tom - I'll buy that both sides of the media spectrum have acted very poorly and at times have not served the public by reporting things other than the truth. But please don't insult everyone's intelligence by saying that Rush and Fox don't make things up. I was with you until you went there, at which point your entire argument was invalidated... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so... Gary, CBS did Dan Rather's forged document show. NBC blew up a truck with a device pretending the truck had a problem. Reuters got caught repeatedly in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos New York Times colunist Jayson Blair simply made up stories Associated Press got caught in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos Fox News and Rush don't make things up. The mainsteam media has been caught making things up and admitting it. I'll take Fox News for integrity any day.
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In reporting and commenting on Sen. Rick Santorum's (R-PA) and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Peter Hoekstra's (R-MI) June 21 claim that a recently declassified intelligence report found that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq prior to the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion, Fox News' Brit Hume, John Gibson, and Jim Angle, as well as nationally syndicated radio hosts Rush Limbaugh and Janet Parshall, continued to ignore conclusive assertions of intelligence officials that the degraded chemical munitions found were not, in fact, in the category of weapons of mass destruction that the U.S. was looking for at the time of the invasion. They also ignore the Iraq Survey Group's (ISG) September 2004 final report (also known as the Duelfer report), which noted that degraded chemical munitions had already been found in Iraq, and that they were not proof of an existing chemical weapons stockpile or of a renewed Iraqi chemical weapons program. Indeed, former ISG head Charles Duelfer stated that the munitions hyped by Santorum and Hoekstra do not qualify as weapons of mass destruction, though they may still pose a local threat. Nevertheless, Hume reported that [t]op administration officials said today that chemical and biological weapons have indeed been found in Iraq, and a report by Angle uncritically aired a statement by Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld that these munitions are weapons of mass destruction. Further, Angle's report mischaracterized a statement by Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA), ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, to suggest that she downplayed the danger of these munitions. On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:10 AM, justifiedright wrote: Any examples of them making stuff up where they didn't admit to it? I don't think there are any. I gave you several in the MSM. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For years professional wrestling wouldn't admit that they weren't really fighting either. The fact that they wouldn't admit it didn't mean it was real. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: AsburyCouple I gave examples of the MSM making up stories and ADMITTING to doing it. Do you have anything on Fox that comes close? I'm sure someone on this board is going to link to some left wing site that will say they don't like Fox. That's not the point. I'm talking about admitted examples of making stuff up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: Tom - I'll buy that both sides of the media spectrum have acted very poorly and at times have not served the public by reporting things other than the truth. But please don't insult everyone's intelligence by saying that Rush and Fox don't make things up. I was with you until you went there, at which point your entire argument was invalidated... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so... Gary, CBS did Dan Rather's forged document show. NBC blew up a truck with a device pretending the truck had a problem. Reuters got caught repeatedly in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos New York Times colunist Jayson Blair simply made up stories Associated Press got caught in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos Fox News and Rush don't make things up. The mainsteam media has been caught making things up and admitting it. I'll take Fox News for integrity any day.
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In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States. Back in December of 1996, Jane Akre and her husband, Steve Wilson, were hired by FOX as a part of the Fox “Investigators” team at WTVT in Tampa Bay, Florida. In 1997 the team began work on a story about bovine growth hormone (BGH), a controversial substance manufactured by Monsanto Corporation. The couple produced a four-part series revealing that there were many health risks related to BGH and that Florida supermarket chains did little to avoid selling milk from cows treated with the hormone, despite assuring customers otherwise. According to Akre and Wilson, the station was initially very excited about the series. But within a week, Fox executives and their attorneys wanted the reporters to use statements from Monsanto representatives that the reporters knew were false and to make other revisions to the story that were in direct conflict with the facts. Fox editors then tried to force Akre and Wilson to continue to produce the distorted story. When they refused and threatened to report Fox's actions to the FCC, they were both fired.(Project Censored #12 1997) Akre and Wilson sued the Fox station and on August 18, 2000, a Florida jury unanimously decided that Akre was wrongfully fired by Fox Television when she refused to broadcast (in the jury's words) “a false, distorted or slanted story” about the widespread use of BGH in dairy cows. They further maintained that she deserved protection under Florida's whistle blower law. Akre was awarded a $425,000 settlement. Inexplicably, however, the court decided that Steve Wilson, her partner in the case, was ruled not wronged by the same actions taken by FOX. FOX appealed the case, and on February 14, 2003 the Florida Second District Court of Appeals unanimously overturned the settlement awarded to Akre. The Court held that Akre’s threat to report the station’s actions to the FCC did not deserve protection under Florida’s whistle blower statute, because Florida’s whistle blower law states that an employer must violate an adopted “law, rule, or regulation. In a stunningly narrow interpretation of FCC rules, the Florida Appeals court claimed that the FCC policy against falsification of the news does not rise to the level of a law, rule, or regulation, it was simply a policy. Therefore, it is up to the station whether or not it wants to report honestly. During their appeal, FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. Fox attorneys did not dispute Akre’s claim that they pressured her to broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to do so. After the appeal verdict WTVT general manager Bob Linger commented, “It’s vindication for WTVT, and we’re very pleased… It’s the case we’ve been making for two years. She never had a legal claim.” On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:10 AM, justifiedright wrote: Any examples of them making stuff up where they didn't admit to it? I don't think there are any. I gave you several in the MSM. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For years professional wrestling wouldn't admit that they weren't really fighting either. The fact that they wouldn't admit it didn't mean it was real. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: AsburyCouple I gave examples of the MSM making up stories and ADMITTING to doing it. Do you have anything on Fox that comes close? I'm sure someone on this board is going to link to some left wing site that will say they don't like Fox. That's not the point. I'm talking about admitted examples of making stuff up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: Tom - I'll buy that both sides of the media spectrum have acted very poorly and at times have not served the public by reporting things other than the truth. But please don't insult everyone's intelligence by saying that Rush and Fox don't make things up. I was with you until you went there, at which point your entire argument was invalidated... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so... Gary, CBS did Dan Rather's forged document show. NBC blew up a truck with a device pretending the truck had a problem. Reuters got caught repeatedly in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos New
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It’s been a rough week for our ol’ friends at Fox News. Thanks to some IP-address based research, the political world learned that the FNC was responsible for “touching up” Wikipedia pages, editing content that didn’t fit with the partisan network’s political agenda. For example, embarrassing content from Media Matters about FNC personalities was quietly removed. Criticism of Keith Olbermann and Al Franken was accentuated. The network that specializes in on-air propaganda had taken its usual schtick to Wiki pages. With that in mind, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that Fox News’ Chris Wallace — you guessed it — sought to undermine Wikipedia’s credibility with a report tonight. The irony is rich. Pay particular attention to the references to “self-serving agendas” and businesses desperate to “improve their public image.” Fox News tried to exploit Wikipedia, and got caught, so naturally it’s time to undermine the source of the network’s embarrassment. Typical. On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:10 AM, justifiedright wrote: Any examples of them making stuff up where they didn't admit to it? I don't think there are any. I gave you several in the MSM. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For years professional wrestling wouldn't admit that they weren't really fighting either. The fact that they wouldn't admit it didn't mean it was real. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: AsburyCouple I gave examples of the MSM making up stories and ADMITTING to doing it. Do you have anything on Fox that comes close? I'm sure someone on this board is going to link to some left wing site that will say they don't like Fox. That's not the point. I'm talking about admitted examples of making stuff up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: Tom - I'll buy that both sides of the media spectrum have acted very poorly and at times have not served the public by reporting things other than the truth. But please don't insult everyone's intelligence by saying that Rush and Fox don't make things up. I was with you until you went there, at which point your entire argument was invalidated... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so... Gary, CBS did Dan Rather's forged document show. NBC blew up a truck with a device pretending the truck had a problem. Reuters got caught repeatedly in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos New York Times colunist Jayson Blair simply made up stories Associated Press got caught in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos Fox News and Rush don't make things up. The mainsteam media has been caught making things up and admitting it. I'll take Fox News for integrity any day. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Bill O'Reilly Lied About Calling For The Pepsi Boycott He (Bill O'Reilly) says I'm calling for all responsible americans to fight back and punish pepsi for using a man who degrades women, who encourages substance abuse and does all the things that hurt particularly the poor and our society. Then he says, I'm calling for all americans to say, hey, pepsi, i'm not drinking your stuff. That sounds like calling for a boycott. Here is exactly what O'Reilly said, right from the transcript of his show: OREILLY: Well, look, just because you think it's in the bottle is off doesn't mean i have to accept it as an american consumer so I'm calling for all responsible americans to fight back and punish pepsi for using a man who degrades women, who encourages substance abuse and does all the things that hurt particularly the poor and our society. I'm calling for all americans to say, hey, pepsi, i'm not drinking your stuff. You want to hang around with Ludacris, you do that, I'm not hanging around with you. Am I wrong to do that? OREILLY: I don't want Ludacris to be banned. I'm not talking about that. Let Ludacris be Ludacris, all right? Thank you. Let him do what he wants. He's a dumb idiot who's got lucky and exploits the system that we have. Fine. Pepsi cola is my problem. Pepsi cola is my problem here. The lie: Bill told an e-mailer that he did not call for a pepsi boycott, because he never used the word boycott. On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:10 AM, justifiedright wrote: Any examples of them making stuff up where they didn't admit to it? I don't think there are any. I gave you several in the MSM. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For years professional wrestling wouldn't admit that they weren't really fighting either. The fact that they wouldn't admit it didn't mean it was real. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: AsburyCouple I gave examples of the MSM making up stories and ADMITTING to doing it. Do you have anything on Fox that comes close? I'm sure someone on this board is going to link to some left wing site that will say they don't like Fox. That's not the point. I'm talking about admitted examples of making stuff up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: Tom - I'll buy that both sides of the media spectrum have acted very poorly and at times have not served the public by reporting things other than the truth. But please don't insult everyone's intelligence by saying that Rush and Fox don't make things up. I was with you until you went there, at which point your entire argument was invalidated... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so... Gary, CBS did Dan Rather's forged document show. NBC blew up a truck with a device pretending the truck had a problem. Reuters got caught repeatedly in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos New York Times colunist Jayson Blair simply made up stories Associated Press got caught in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos Fox News and Rush don't make things up. The mainsteam media has been caught making things up and admitting it. I'll take Fox News for integrity any day. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Fox's O'Reilly Factor covered the Mark Foley (R-FL) issue in two different segments, one of them with a page who says he received communications from Foley, and another with Ann Coulter. Incredibly, during a total of three different cutaways to video footage of Foley, he was labelled at the bottom of the screen eachtime as (D-FL). Three different times. In two different segements. Each cutaway about 15 seconds or more. Showing Foley as a Democrat. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ inline: FoxOReilly_MarkFoleyDEM_100306.jpg On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:10 AM, justifiedright wrote: Any examples of them making stuff up where they didn't admit to it? I don't think there are any. I gave you several in the MSM. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For years professional wrestling wouldn't admit that they weren't really fighting either. The fact that they wouldn't admit it didn't mean it was real. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: AsburyCouple I gave examples of the MSM making up stories and ADMITTING to doing it. Do you have anything on Fox that comes close? I'm sure someone on this board is going to link to some left wing site that will say they don't like Fox. That's not the point. I'm talking about admitted examples of making stuff up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: Tom - I'll buy that both sides of the media spectrum have acted very poorly and at times have not served the public by reporting things other than the truth. But please don't insult everyone's intelligence by saying that Rush and Fox don't make things up. I was with you until you went there, at which point your entire argument was invalidated... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so... Gary, CBS did Dan Rather's forged document show. NBC blew up a truck with a device pretending the truck had a problem. Reuters got caught repeatedly in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos New York Times colunist Jayson Blair simply made up stories Associated Press got caught in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos Fox News and Rush don't make things up. The mainsteam media has been caught making things up and admitting it. I'll take Fox News for integrity any day.
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asburypolitics/ On Sep 13, 2007, at 1:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, George Bush was in the National Guard while Bill Clinton was protesting against the US on foreign soil while smoking doobies. nice how you say Dan Rather's documents aside you may be a spin master...just not a very good one! -Original Message- From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 9:50 am Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God And Dan Rather's documents aside, where was George Bush during his TANG service? Just as the Wing Nut Wurlitzer wanted, that issue was completely abandoned. On Sep 13, 2007, at 7:40 AM, justifiedright wrote: AsburyCouple I gave examples of the MSM making up stories and ADMITTING to doing it. Do you have anything on Fox that comes close? I'm sure someone on this board is going to link to some left wing site that will say they don't like Fox. That's not the point. I'm talking about admitted examples of making stuff up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom - I'll buy that both sides of the media spectrum have acted very poorly and at times have not served the public by reporting things other than the truth. But please don't insult everyone's intelligence by saying that Rush and Fox don't make things up. I was with you until you went there, at which point your entire argument was invalidated... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so... Gary, CBS did Dan Rather's forged document show. NBC blew up a truck with a device pretending the truck had a problem. Reuters got caught repeatedly in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos New York Times colunist Jayson Blair simply made up stories Associated Press got caught in the Fauxtography scandal where they doctored photos or staged photos Fox News and Rush don't make things up. The mainsteam media has been caught making things up and admitting it. I'll take Fox News for integrity any day. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!
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kevin, Rep., Jefferson he of the money in the fridge was a reverend as well.? I think Norman Hsu was very religious as well, I think he was a Mooney! -Original Message- From: Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:34 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Yea, just like the Liberal Progressive Democrat Assemblyman Preacher who just got caught taking bribes. That sure prooves your point. Not! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conservatives only pretend to be religious but actually worship money. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, While I would agree that liberals have no god is a blanket statement and is probably not 100% accurate. However, one has to agree that on the whole liberals have been far more anti-god than conservatives -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Yahoo! Groups Links Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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the Liberal Progressive Democrat Assemblyman Preacher Liberal Progressive Democrat? Got anymore bias you wanna throw in there, Reverend? Why not add Dirty F#king Hippie while you're at it. On Sep 11, 2007, at 10:34 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: Yea, just like the Liberal Progressive Democrat Assemblyman Preacher who just got caught taking bribes. That sure prooves your point. Not! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conservatives only pretend to be religious but actually worship money. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, While I would agree that liberals have no god is a blanket statement and is probably not 100% accurate. However, one has to agree that on the whole liberals have been far more anti-god than conservatives -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!
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In a message dated 9/10/2007 9:51:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We will. Mario's buying me beer the last night (I think it's September 30). I of course owe Oak a beer or three. I think apoojo owes me one, also. It's either going to be a funeral or a re-birth. Let's hope for the latter. A beer? Sheeit! I'll cover your bar tab that night for all you did last week. And not once touting it here. (That phrase agreement, of course, still holds.) In a message dated 9/11/2007 4:11:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've tried to stay out of this conversation; will you permit me to end it? Also Mario, please forgive me for violating my own rule and using something anecdotal: Growing up in my house, my mother had pictures of only 3 men on the walls - Elvis, Jesus and Jack Kennedy (and I think she had them in that order of importance;-)) Of course liberals believe in God. I've got nothing against anecdotes; they are useful, especially when used to lighten the tone. It's anecdotal evidence that I object to; it's rarely accepted as proof; worse even than analogies which are the second least effective in debate. Can that please be the end of this silly thread? It is a silly subject line; if I had authored it, I'd be embarrassed every time saw it in a Re: [Asbury Park] But confirms your tab anyway as per agreement. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/11/2007 7:51:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If conservatives are about limited government and liberals are about government involvement then I think the only real conservatives left are the Libertains. Because those who today label themselves conservative are often just religious liberal, using the government to drive their own agenda just as traditional liberals do. The only difference is that atleast traditional liberals are honest about it. I'd say zealots instead of liberals, but otherwise your post reveals the uselessness of the traditional party slogans. (e.g., One nation Under God; under God was inserted in 1954 under pressure during the McCarthy period. Depends on whose ox is being gored by big government programs: the poor, the people getting capital gains and estate tax reductions; K Street lobbyists or social welfare programs; offshore companies and corps getting contracts they don't have to submit biids for; et al.; Eminent Domain used/abused for public or private gain. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/11/2007 3:32:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Brown is no monkey. Correct. I know because one of his web sites says he can ordain me as a minister. For $5,000 and six months study; moreover, some of the prerequisites for admission can be waived after a personal interview. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/11/2007 10:01:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The examples you have given equal religion vs. no religion. Pick one of your examples. Let me make it perfectly clear, in my opinion, religion causes more problems than it is worth. Reasonable conclusion from history: Jihadist beheadings, Christian Inquisition trials, or shootings at Abortion clinics. Strict dogmatism in any group. Stalinists as Secular Religionists; Fascist race superiority; Klu Klux Klans crosses ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/11/2007 4:17:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jersey John, Not sure what your rambling post was about but this sure sounds Republican... GOD BLESS AMERICA! No America in the Sermon of the Mount.Rather the sermon refers to the Blessed are... as any people who cultivate certain virtues. I don't think Tom Delay's America or the corrupt of all stripes and any domain would be among the Blessed. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/11/2007 4:57:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just so the group knows, I do not skirt issues. I answer questions relevent to the issue. I never respond to personal questions that have nothing to do with the issue. Depends on what you mean by skirt. Juggling excerpts from scripture and slogans are shallow answers to questions about most issues raised here. E.g.: How will Asbury Park Benefit from JSRM. I also do not respond to people who do not have a profile identifying who they really are. Nor I. doc_p has no profile, and I've had experiences with his sending me personal email whose tone and intent was to intimidate me from posting my perspectives here. (2-3 yrs. ago) Yahoo suggested, as a first response, that I delete, without reading, or auto send his mail to spam and save for their future reference. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/11/2007 5:05:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe one of the worst things to happen in my lifetime was NAFTA which I blame Clinton for. Most liberals or at least labor unions did also. Clinton's wing of the Democratic Party was quite moderate on economic and trade issues: The Democratic Leadership group. I admit I lean liberal on a lot of issues and conservative on others. Kinda sounds independent to me. Goldwater came out for gay rights; Lester Maddox late in life apologized for his opposition to the MLK Civil Rights movement; Wm. F. Buckley, father of modern conservatism, favors the legalization of drugs which now called illicit; Hagel and other Republicans oppose Bush's handling of the war. No need to admit. Anyone who understands politics knows the continuum of political views on various issues To really find out what label applies to you, try this site. You answer a series of questions; then your views are charted on a graph with not the simple continuum, but with a sophisticated graph, with both horizontal and vertical (forgot what they're called.) But I guess because I don't worship at the altar of guys like Rush Limbaugh I would be considered a liberal. I love those guys. Dittoheads -- they proudly say they're a ditto head and then say the other side doesn't have a brain. Amazing! Dittoheads are our era's version of the herd animals in Animal Farm: no understanding, just bleating of slogans to out-shout dissenters: Four legs good! Two Legs bad! Love it or Leave it. These Colors don't Run, USA! USA! USA! et al. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/12/2007 1:10:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Liberal Progressive Democrat? Got anymore bias you wanna throw in there, Reverend? Be proud of that epithet when it's thrown at you. Those words carry negative connotations only among the herd-like dittoheads. Why not add Dirty F#king Hippie while you're at it. Commie, Pinko, vermin, dot head too. Four Legs Good! Two Legs Bad! repeated endlessly. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/11/2007 3:39:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sure he's not, but...whenever somebody posts something that addresses how the homeless population effects AP and it's residents, he never answers the question, he just skirts the issue. See why: _Liberals More Likely Than Conservatives To Break From Habitual ..._ (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/07091852.htm) Science Daily (press release) - USA Science Daily -- Liberals are more likely than are conservatives to respond to cues signaling the need to change habitual responses, according to a new study ... _See all stories on this topic_ (http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/07091852.htm) _Brain Differences In Liberals and Conservatives_ (http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/11/0215210) Slashdot - USA i_like_spam writes Scientists from NYU and UCLA report in Nature Neuroscience that the brains of Democrats and Republicans process information differently. ... _See all stories on this topic_ (http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/11/0215210) _Do You Have a Left-Wing or a Right-Wing Brain?_ (http://www.elliottwave.com/features/default.aspx?cat=mw*aid=*time=pm) Elliott Wave - Gainesville,GA,USA Scientists at New York University and UCLA published their study this week in the journal Nature Neuroscience. It turns out that liberals cope with ... _See all stories on this topic_ (http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://www.elliottwave.com/features/default.aspx?cat=mw*aid=*time=pm) _Political Science, Meet Politicized Science_ (http://www.evolutionnews.org/2007/09/political_science_meet_politic.html) Discovery Institute - Seattle,WA,USA (A) specific region of the brain's cortex is more sensitive in people who consider themselves liberals than in self-declared conservatives, they advise us. _See all stories on this topic_ (http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://www.evolutionnews.org/2007/09/political_science_meet_politic.html) Google Blogs Alert: _Liberals More Likely Than Conservatives To Break From Habitual ..._ (http://science .originalsignal.com/article/32661/liberals-more-likely-than-conservatives-to-break-from-habitual-responses-study-finds.html) Liberals are more likely than are conservatives to respond to cues signaling the need to change habitual responses, according to a new study by researchers at New York University and UCLA. The findings, which show that self-rated ... _Original Signal - Transmitting Science - http://science.originalsignal.com _ (http://science.originalsignal.com/) _Neuroscience News - Healthcare Industry Today_ (http://health.einnews.com/news/neuroscience) Study: Liberal And Conservative Brains Process Information Differently 10 Sep 2007 01:50 GMT ... UCLA showed through a simple experiment to be reported ... _Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain_ (http://tailrank.com/2571493/Study-finds-left-wing-brain-right-wing-brain) Even in humdrum nonpolitical decisions, liberals and conservatives ... in the journal Nature Neuroscience , scientists at New York University and UCLA show ... _Study: Liberal And Conservative Brains Process Information ..._ (http://www.brownpride.us/forum/study-liberal-and-conservative-brains-process-information -differently-t11263.html) Conservatives see black white, liberals see shades of gray. reported Monday in the journal Nature Neuroscience that political orientation is related ... _#Liberals had more brain activity and made fewer mistakes than ..._ (http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/browse_thread/thread/2bc0daf55 328/93ada65a2c1e6f6a) liberals tolerate ambiguity and conflict better than conservatives because of how their brains work. Scientists at New York University and UCLA showed ... _Sexy Hot Beauty: UCLA Discovers Liberal Brain, Conservative Brain_ (http://sexyhotbeauty.blogspot.com/2007/09/ucla-discovers-liberal-brain.html) UCLA Discovers Liberal Brain, Conservative Brain ... experiment reported todayin the journal Nature Neuroscience, scientists at New York University and UCLA ... Google News Alert: _Bruin Recap - So Far, So Good_ (http://laist.com/2007/09/04/ucla_bruin_recap.php) LAist - Los Angeles,CA,USA Since it's already Tuesday and UCLA's 45-17 victory over lowly Stanford feels like an eternity ago, we won't give you any game recap of what was an ... _See all stories on this topic_ (http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://laist.com/2007/09/04/ucla_bruin_recap.php) _Dirty Larry_ (http://www.slate.com/id/2173015/) Slate - USA A few liberal bloggers point out Craig's support for the federal Defense of Marriage Act, plus his opposition to a bill that would have banned job ... _See all stories on this topic_
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In a message dated 9/12/2007 8:44:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes but anyone can become a preacher or call themselves one. To prove a point I just became a Universal Ministries minister over the internet. Anyone need a marriage officiated.. Wow! Gonna change to RevTVnetDude? Was it cheaper than the one you could get in Long branch for 5,000, and maybe a 50% discount. _Click here: Ministry Training_ (http://web.archive.org/web/20050121072817/www.lighthousemission.com/SCHOOL.htm) Even get waivers: _Click here: Ministry Training_ (http://web.archive.org/web/20060207181424/www.lighthousemission.com/SCHOOL.htm) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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Mario, Blah Blah.? If this is your idea of intimidation, you are doing a poor job.? But then I've come to expect nothing less from you! Now can we end this thread since every one (myself included) has made their respective points.? So Lets move on about how to?make money in AP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 5:45 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God In a message dated 9/11/2007 4:57:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just so the group knows, I do not skirt issues.? I answer questions relevent to the issue.? I never respond to personal questions that have nothing to do with the issue.? Depends on what you mean by skirt.? Juggling excerpts from scripture and slogans are shallow answers to questions about most issues raised here.? E.g.:? How will Asbury Park Benefit from JSRM. I also do not respond to people who do not have a profile identifying who they really are. Nor I.? ? doc_p has no profile, and I've had experiences with his sending me personal email whose tone and intent was?to intimidate me from posting my perspectives here.? (2-3 yrs. ago)? Yahoo suggested, as a first response, that I delete, without reading, or auto send his mail to spam and save for their future reference. ? ? ? See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/12/2007 3:57:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use to hide my money in my freezer, years ago. From tuition checks? ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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SAY AY! PRAISE HEM! I'd be the only athiest minister. Maybe I could start a new religion. Athiests for Jesus. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 9/12/2007 8:44:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes but anyone can become a preacher or call themselves one. To prove a point I just became a Universal Ministries minister over the internet. Anyone need a marriage officiated.. Wow! Gonna change to RevTVnetDude? Was it cheaper than the one you could get in Long branch for 5,000, and maybe a 50% discount. Click here: Ministry Training Even get waivers: Click here: Ministry Training - See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
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Mario, I'm going to humor you here.? Please advise whats wrong with patriotism.? USA USA USA is a good thing and not a bad thing.? Love of country leads! Semper Fi! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 5:48 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God In a message dated 9/11/2007 5:05:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe one of the worst things to happen in my lifetime was NAFTA which I blame Clinton for.? Most liberals or at least labor unions did also.?? Clinton's wing of the Democratic Party was quite moderate on?economic and trade issues: The Democratic Leadership group. ? I admit I lean liberal on a lot of issues and conservative on others.? Kinda sounds independent to me.? Goldwater came out for gay rights; Lester Maddox late in life apologized for his opposition to the MLK Civil Rights movement;? Wm. F. Buckley, father of modern conservatism, favors the?legalization of drugs which now called illicit;?Hagel and other Republicans oppose Bush's handling of the war.? No need to admit.? Anyone who understands politics knows the continuum of political views on various issues ? To really find out what label applies to you, try this site.? You answer a series of questions; then your views are charted on a graph with not the simple continuum, but with a sophisticated graph, with both horizontal and vertical (forgot what they're called.) ?But I guess because I don't worship at the altar of guys like Rush Limbaugh I would be considered a liberal.? ?I love those guys.? Dittoheads -- they proudly say they're a ditto head and then say the other side doesn't have a brain.? Amazing! Dittoheads are our era's version of the herd animals in Animal Farm:? no understanding, just bleating of slogans to out-shout dissenters:? Four legs good!? Two Legs bad!? Love it or Leave it.? These Colors don't Run, USA! USA! USA! et al. See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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AsburyCouple, This was directed to Kevin, but let me answer this directly for you...though i did not at all agree with Clinton in the Balkans, (I felt we should have gone in massively rather than with pinprick bombings) I did not outright questions our CIC since I have respect for the office of the leader of the free world.? This is despite the fact Clinton made a mockery of the office. In a way I also realized that we were forced to go in because of the ineptitude of Nato, the EU, and UN.? We wanted them to handle it and they bungled it! Is that direct enough for you? -Original Message- From: asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 5:59 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Alright Kevin - here's an issue related to a discussion we had a couple of weeks ago that you appear to have skirted several times despite my asking you very directly. You have been extremely critical of anyone who questions our commander in chief on Iraq - essentially saying it is wrong to question the CIC when our people are in harms way. So this is the fourth time I've asked you the same question... When we were in harms way in the balkans, did you also support our then President Clinton as aggressively as you are now supporting Bush? Let's see if you can avoid skirting the issue. I'm sure the previous times I've asked you just forgot to respond. In a message dated 9/11/2007 4:57:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just so the group knows, I do not skirt issues. I answer questions relevent to the issue. I never respond to personal questions that have nothing to do with the issue. Yahoo! Groups Links Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Mike, Maybe you can offer salvation to Norman Hsu! -Original Message- From: Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 6:01 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God SAY AY! PRAISE HEM! I'd be the only athiest minister. Maybe I could start a new religion. Athiests for Jesus. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/12/2007 8:44:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes but anyone can become a preacher or call themselves one. To prove a point I just became a Universal Ministries minister over the internet. Anyone need a marriage officiated.. ? ? Wow!? Gonna change to RevTVnetDude? ? Was it cheaper than the one you could get in Long branch for 5,000,??and maybe a 50% discount. Click here: Ministry Training ? ? Even get waivers:?? Click here: Ministry Training See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/12/2007 5:59:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario, Blah Blah. If this is your idea of intimidation, you are doing a poor job. The intimidation was in your private email to me. But then I've come to expect nothing less from you! You can expect my continued efforts to respond to what I consider bs. Now can we end this thread since every one (myself included) has made their respective points. So Lets move on about how to make money in AP. I wasn't able to responded to this thread until today. My respective point have been made for now, depending on what comes down the pike. I won't be responding to yours because your still go to the spam folder. I see your posts only when they're attached to other posts. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/12/2007 6:09:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm going to humor you here. Please advise whats wrong with patriotism. USA USA USA is a good thing and not a bad thing. Love of country leads! Gonna humor you for you go back to the spam folder where you remain unread. Nothing wrong with patriotism. Jingoism is not patriotism. Sam Johnson - The last refuge of scoundrels is patriotism. That kind of patriotism is one form of jingoism. This White House manual for discouraging dissent, secret until it had to be released by a court case, instructed Bush squad of rah-rah's to shout USA! over and over again so the media could not hear protestors, And they were to be blocked from the media's cameras. I posted links to that manual a few days ago. USA! USA! USA! belongs in the sports arena maybe. Not as a tactic to stifle freedom of speech. Love of country is great, as long as it doesn't turn into Chauvinism. But USA! has been part of dirty tricks in many a campaign function to suppress. That's not love of country. Remember that old chestnut: I may disagree with what you say, but I'll depend to the death your right to say it. (various authors). That's love of country. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/12/2007 6:10:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Clinton made a mockery of the office. Only after several years of dogging (Whitewater etc) of Clinton. Finally he was outed for a BJ. Some Americans saw that a waste of 60+ million dollars + in investigations. How'd he win reelection if the office was mocked. The tight ass religious right who used a private sex to enhance their self-righteousness. Europeans thought we were foolish about the issue. Bush has lost our respect and integrity around the world. Thankfully most are anti_Bush, not anti-American. We'll need multilateral cooperation among the various diplomatic corps and other agencies world-wide to curtail terrorism. That bumper sticker: When Clinton lied, no one died. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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Mario, As an ex vet I have and will always defend your right to say what you want to say despite the lack of proper perspective displayed by you...it's your right to be clueless! And patriotism is not jingoism...I support the troops, I support our great nation, an I support your right to be a freak! Semper Fi! USA USA USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 6:34 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God In a message dated 9/12/2007 6:09:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm going to humor you here.? Please advise whats wrong with patriotism.? USA USA USA is a good thing and not a bad thing.? Love of country leads! Gonna humor you for you go back to the spam folder where you remain unread. ? Nothing wrong with patriotism.? Jingoism is not patriotism.? ? Sam Johnson - The last refuge of scoundrels is patriotism.? That kind of patriotism is one form of jingoism. ? This White House manual for discouraging dissent, secret until it had to be released by a court case, instructed Bush squad of rah-rah's to shout USA! over and over again so the media could not hear protestors,? And they were to be blocked from the media's cameras.? I posted links to that manual a few days ago. ? USA! USA! USA! belongs in the sports arena maybe.? Not as a tactic to stifle freedom of speech. ? ? Love of country is great, as long as it doesn't turn into Chauvinism. ? But USA! has been part of dirty tricks in many a campaign function to suppress.? That's not love of country. ? Remember that old chestnut: I may disagree with what you say, but I'll depend to the death your right to say it.? (various authors). ? That's love of country. ? ? See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Mario, 1.? Last time I checked we're not in Europe!? And actually we finally have favorable regimes in old Europe (Germany and France) 2.? How quickly you forget the Juanita Broderick rape by Bill Clinton.? How quickly you forget the Vince Foster suicide, and?the theft of VCRs from the white house as he was leaving office (just kidding about that) 3.??Clinton did get re-elected?but then so?did?Bush.??It's called our elections! 4.? Things are getting better in Iraq so what MoveOn.org talking points will you be spouting next! Semper Fi! ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 6:42 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God In a message dated 9/12/2007 6:10:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Clinton made a mockery of the office. Only after several years of dogging (Whitewater etc) of Clinton.? Finally he was outed for a BJ.? Some Americans saw that a waste of 60+ million dollars + in investigations.? How'd he win reelection if the office was mocked.? The tight ass religious right who used a private sex to enhance their self-righteousness.? ? Europeans thought we were foolish about the issue. ? ? Bush has lost our respect and integrity around the world.? Thankfully most are anti_Bush, not anti-American. We'll need multilateral cooperation among the various diplomatic corps and other agencies world-wide to curtail terrorism. ? That bumper sticker:? When Clinton lied, no one died. See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/12/2007 5:49:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, I wrote: To really find out what label applies to you, try this site. You answer a series of questions; then your views are charted on a graph with not the simple continuum, but with a sophisticated graph, with both horizontal and vertical (forgot what they're called.) I forgot the link: _https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/_ (https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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On Sep 12, 2007, at 6:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, 1. Last time I checked we're not in Europe! And actually we finally have favorable regimes in old Europe (Germany and France) Both who were right in trying to stop us from invading Iraq. Notice I said Iraq not war. The ENTIRE world was with us to go into Afghanistan after the Taliban. President Bush squandered the support of the world with the Iraq invasion. 2. How quickly you forget the Juanita Broderick rape by Bill Clinton. Actually, the question could be to you - how easily do you believe things you want to believe? Clinton may or may not have been guilty in some of the accusations but the rape was alleged and not proven and it's pretty well known that right wing groups were offering money for just about anybody they might be able to connect to the Clintons for a story. Juanita said I just don't think anyone would have believed me. -- when asked why she didn't come forward at the time. I think she came forward a decade later for one reason -- money. How quickly you forget the Vince Foster suicide, Once again... let's stay away from talk radio conspiracies. If you want to believe those, there are plenty about this administration as well. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Gary, Keep in mind the French did not want us to go to war to protect that. Also keep in mind that Juanita Broderick was in no ways a republican or a conservative.? She was democrat as was Kathleen Willey who was a democratic volunteer and who alleged that Clinton?sexually assaulted her.? She got ripped by the vast left wing conspiracy.? Not sure what happened with Vince Foster other than he was having an affair with Hillary.? I'd probably commit suicide as well! -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 7:27 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God On Sep 12, 2007, at 6:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, 1. Last time I checked we're not in Europe! And actually we finally have favorable regimes in old Europe (Germany and France) Both who were right in trying to stop us from invading Iraq. Notice I said Iraq not war. The ENTIRE world was with us to go into Afghanistan after the Taliban. President Bush squandered the support of the world with the Iraq invasion. 2. How quickly you forget the Juanita Broderick rape by Bill Clinton. Actually, the question could be to you - how easily do you believe things you want to believe? Clinton may or may not have been guilty in some of the accusations but the rape was alleged and not proven and it's pretty well known that right wing groups were offering money for just about anybody they might be able to connect to the Clintons for a story. Juanita said I just don't think anyone would have believed me. -- when asked why she didn't come forward at the time. I think she came forward a decade later for one reason -- money. How quickly you forget the Vince Foster suicide, Once again... let's stay away from talk radio conspiracies. If you want to believe those, there are plenty about this administration as well. Yahoo! Groups Links Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Here's something for the jingoistic folks on this list Sen. John Warner (R-Va.): I hope in the recesses of your heart that you know that strategy will continue the casualties, stress on our forces, stress on military families, stress on all Americans. Are you able to say at this time if we continue what you have laid before the Congress here as a strategy, do you feel that that is making America safer? Petraeus: Sir, I believe that this is indeed the best course of action to achieve our objectives in Iraq. Warner: Does that make America safer? Petraeus: Sir, I don't know, actually. I have not sat down and sorted out in my own mind. What I have focused on and been riveted on is how to accomplish the mission of the Multi-National Force-Iraq. *** Shouldn't the ultimate mission be to make America Safer? If our leaders can't answer that, would you like to take a shot at how Iraq makes us safer and why we are there? (while you're at it why don't you give an idea how many years do you expect us to be there?) Sometimes leaving is the best thing to do. It prevents having thousands of losses for the same reason. On Sep 12, 2007, at 9:58 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/12/2007 6:10:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Clinton made a mockery of the office. Only after several years of dogging (Whitewater etc) of Clinton. Finally he was outed for a BJ. Some Americans saw that a waste of 60+ million dollars + in investigations. How'd he win reelection if the office was mocked. The tight ass religious right who used a private sex to enhance their self-righteousness. Europeans thought we were foolish about the issue. Bush has lost our respect and integrity around the world. Thankfully most are anti_Bush, not anti-American. We'll need multilateral cooperation among the various diplomatic corps and other agencies world-wide to curtail terrorism. That bumper sticker: When Clinton lied, no one died. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com In Somalia he punked out and left Rangers spec ops people stranded! Wanna put that on a bumer sticker? KB
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Mario is a teacher? God bless his students! ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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Leaving while clear progress is being made? You just can't stand when we finally get some good news! For every Warner I'll give you a Lieberman. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 9/12/2007 10:09:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope wherever Mario teaches, that the parents keep a watchful eye on what he teaches to his students. Cordiali saluti, Mario ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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Broaddrick could not remember the date, even the month, of the alleged 1978 incident. And NBC's Lisa Myers reported that Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's first gubernatorial campaign, attended a Clinton fund-raiser three weeks later. I think I was still in denial, Broaddrick said. I still felt very guilty at that time, that it was my fault. By letting him come to the room, I had given him the wrong idea. Asked about Broaddrick's allegation at a news conference earlier in the day, President Clinton said: Well, my counsel has made a statement about the . . . issue, and I have nothing to add to it. Attorney David E. Kendall's statement called the charge absolutely false. The nursing home operator, previously known as Jane Doe No. 5, told Myers that she felt violated but finally stopped resisting Clinton's sexual advances because it was a real panicky situation. She said that he was just a vicious, awful person. Pressed by Myers as to whether she was raped, Broaddrick said she had been. It was not consensual, she insisted. As for her feelings now toward the president, Broaddrick said: My hatred for him is overwhelming. NBC's decision to broadcast the Jan. 20 interview after a month of heated internal debate dramatically boosts the visibility of Clinton's latest accuser, since Dateline normally draws an audience of more than 10 million households. Broaddrick has already given her account of the alleged 1978 incident, when Clinton was Arkansas attorney general, to the Wall Street Journal editorial page, The Washington Post and, in an article published yesterday, the New York Times. Had NBC aired the interview during the Senate impeachment trial and the furor over Monica S. Lewinsky, it might have had a significant impact on the political climate. Whether the story has any lasting significance now, outside the context of any legal or impeachment proceeding, is unclear. NBC executives say the Myers report needed further checking and corroboration before it could be broadcast. Broaddrick was dubbed Jane Doe No. 5 in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit against Clinton early last year, when Jones's attorneys cited her in court papers and she filed an affidavit calling the allegation of sexual assault untrue. In the interview, Broaddrick, 56, said: I didn't want to be forced to testify about the most horrific event of my life. Broaddrick later recanted that affidavit when questioned by FBI agents working for independent counsel Kenneth W. Starr, who found her account inconclusive. Two of the House impeachment managers spoke to Broaddrick but did not pursue her allegation. Broaddrick told NBC she considered coming forward last year, after Kathleen E. Willey accused the president of groping her in the Oval Office. But, she said, I just wasn't brave enough to do it. Dabbing at her eye with a tissue, Broaddrick said she agreed to go on camera because I just couldn't hold it in any longer. She said she did not want her grandchildren to ask: Why didn't you tell what this man did to you? NBC interviewed four friends who say Broaddrick told them about the alleged assault soon afterward, including Norma Kelsey, who said she saw Broaddrick's swollen lip and torn pantyhose that day. But the man Broaddrick was married to at the time, Gary Hickey, told NBC he did not remember the injury or her attempt to blame it on an accident. On Sep 12, 2007, at 6:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, 1. Last time I checked we're not in Europe! And actually we finally have favorable regimes in old Europe (Germany and France) 2. How quickly you forget the Juanita Broderick rape by Bill Clinton. How quickly you forget the Vince Foster suicide, and the theft of VCRs from the white house as he was leaving office (just kidding about that) 3. Clinton did get re-elected but then so did Bush. It's called our elections! 4. Things are getting better in Iraq so what MoveOn.org talking points will you be spouting next! Semper Fi! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 6:42 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God In a message dated 9/12/2007 6:10:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Clinton made a mockery of the office. Only after several years of dogging (Whitewater etc) of Clinton. Finally he was outed for a BJ. Some Americans saw that a waste of 60+ million dollars + in investigations. How'd he win reelection if the office was mocked. The tight ass religious right who used a private sex to enhance their self-righteousness. Europeans thought we were foolish about the issue. Bush has lost our respect and integrity around the world. Thankfully most are anti_Bush, not anti-American. We'll need multilateral cooperation among the various diplomatic corps and other agencies world
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In a message dated 9/12/2007 10:09:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope wherever Mario teaches, that the parents keep a watchful eye on what he teaches to his students A long and successful career in teaching. Legitimate credentials too. Governor's Teacher of the Year for my district in the mid 90s. Former students still come back to thank me, some even to explainI was the reason they chose to become teachers also. Those who didn't care for the discipline and structure, (inherited by osmosis I guess from Catholic education) in my public school class, often came back after college to credit my class for enabling to succeed and graduate in some of the top schools, in contrast to the many who get accepted but quit before graduating. And in a moderate Republican community. I won't bring up certification again, but I will suggest that as a minister, you should have learned how to spell Isaiah. Simply through osmosis during the extensive studies of scripture which must have been required, eh? It's Isaiah. Not Isiah. Isiah is the Knicks' coach. In a message dated 9/8/2007 10:16:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of those situations is what we did with a homeless person. Jesus talks about it at length in the gospels, but he was simply repeating what Isiah penned below Isiah 58 7Is it not to (P)divide your bread with the hungry And (Q)bring the homeless poor into the house;... I suggest you drop this vocation angle ASAP. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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March 23, 2006—A November 29, 1963 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit memo unearthed in 1977-78 proves that former President George H. W. Bush was a member of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the recipient of a full briefing on the day after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963 when Bush was 39 years old, despite his protestations to the contrary. Additional evidence linking Bush 41 directly to the scene of the crime is available and is circulating the internet over the past few days in the form of a U.S. intelligence-leaked photo taken just after the JFK assassination at the door of the Texas Book Depository in Dealey Plaza. The individual in the photo has the identical profile and hairline of a more youthful George H. W. Bush, standing to the left of the doorway of the building just after the assassination looking in the opposite direction of the authorities who were intent upon locating Lee Harvey Oswald. The image of the elder Bush at the Texas Book Depository is authentic and can be verified by the intelligence operatives who took the picture and would testify if subpoenaed, according to U.S. intelligence expert Thomas Heneghan, who provided the photo which was leaked to others. On Sep 12, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Gary Wien wrote: On Sep 12, 2007, at 6:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, 1. Last time I checked we're not in Europe! And actually we finally have favorable regimes in old Europe (Germany and France) Both who were right in trying to stop us from invading Iraq. Notice I said Iraq not war. The ENTIRE world was with us to go into Afghanistan after the Taliban. President Bush squandered the support of the world with the Iraq invasion. 2. How quickly you forget the Juanita Broderick rape by Bill Clinton. Actually, the question could be to you - how easily do you believe things you want to believe? Clinton may or may not have been guilty in some of the accusations but the rape was alleged and not proven and it's pretty well known that right wing groups were offering money for just about anybody they might be able to connect to the Clintons for a story. Juanita said I just don't think anyone would have believed me. -- when asked why she didn't come forward at the time. I think she came forward a decade later for one reason -- money. How quickly you forget the Vince Foster suicide, Once again... let's stay away from talk radio conspiracies. If you want to believe those, there are plenty about this administration as well. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Jersey John, I always figured you were an avid reader of the Globe. It all makes sense now! ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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Jersey John, You should also dig up the John Kerry being a Viet Cong sympathizer scandal as well. You'll have to understand that it wasn't Bush that was involved in the JFK killing. It was a conspiracy involving Joe Dimaggio and Arthur Miller. They were pissed that JFK was tapping Marilyn! Get a life! Semper Fi! ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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Oh! I see! Only YOUR wildly insane conspiracy theories are legitimate! (Get a life? Really? What are you, twelve years old?) On Sep 12, 2007, at 11:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jersey John, You should also dig up the John Kerry being a Viet Cong sympathizer scandal as well. You'll have to understand that it wasn't Bush that was involved in the JFK killing. It was a conspiracy involving Joe Dimaggio and Arthur Miller. They were pissed that JFK was tapping Marilyn! Get a life! Semper Fi! See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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John, What you don't believe that JFK was killed by a cabal of jilted ex Marilyn Monroe lovers led by Arthur Miller and Joe Dimaggio. Look it up on the Globe! ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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On Sep 12, 2007, at 11:29 PM, Jersey Shore John wrote: Oh! I see! Only YOUR wildly insane conspiracy theories are legitimate! This actually is a big difference between Republicans, Democrats and Independents. Republicans seem to honestly believe anything that they read on right wing sites or hear on talk radio. Those people may say they only speak the truth but they've been proving false time and time again. About 95% or more of the Clinton conspiracies are not nearly as true as Republicans would like to believe. Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Oh really, I guess Norman Hsu is a product of the vast right wing conspiracy. I guess Clinton did not lie under oath? I guess Clinton does not have a bastard child from a black prostituteum ok, thats probably a wild conspiracy! :) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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only your wild unfounded conspiracy theories are legit... On Sep 12, 2007, at 11:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jersey John, I always figured you were an avid reader of the Globe. It all makes sense now! See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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why do you subscribe to only HALF of the wild unfounded conspiracy theories? let yourself go, dude. get all the way into it. you're almost there now. On Sep 12, 2007, at 11:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, What you don't believe that JFK was killed by a cabal of jilted ex Marilyn Monroe lovers led by Arthur Miller and Joe Dimaggio. Look it up on the Globe! See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so... In fact, there ALWAY disproved as lies. always. It's a big drawback of Vicodin addiction. On Sep 12, 2007, at 11:40 PM, Gary Wien wrote: On Sep 12, 2007, at 11:29 PM, Jersey Shore John wrote: Oh! I see! Only YOUR wildly insane conspiracy theories are legitimate! This actually is a big difference between Republicans, Democrats and Independents. Republicans seem to honestly believe anything that they read on right wing sites or hear on talk radio. Those people may say they only speak the truth but they've been proving false time and time again. About 95% or more of the Clinton conspiracies are not nearly as true as Republicans would like to believe. Just because Fox News or Rush says so doesn't make it so...
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I guess every single member of the Bush Administration did not lie under oath? I guess Laura did not murder her ex-boyfrind in a jealous rage by running over him in her car... not once, but twice... um ok, thats probably a wild conspiracy! :) On Sep 12, 2007, at 11:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh really, I guess Norman Hsu is a product of the vast right wing conspiracy. I guess Clinton did not lie under oath? I guess Clinton does not have a bastard child from a black prostituteum ok, thats probably a wild conspiracy! :) See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Yesterday's Los Angeles Times reported the findings of researchers at NYU and UCLA: Study finds left-wing brain, right wing brain: Even in humdrum nonpolitical decisions, liberals and conservatives literally think differently, researchers show. Click here: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain - Los Angeles Times http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-politics10sep10,1\ ,7735909.story?coll=la-headlines-nationctrack=1cset=true Those who prefer the primary source can find it here:Neurocognitive correlates of liberalism and conservatism David M Amodio, John T Jost, Sarah L Master Cindy M Yee Published online: 09 September 2007 | doi:10.1038/nn1979 Abstract http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/nn1979.html | Full text http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nn1979.html | PDF (139K) http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/vaop/ncurrent/pdf/nn1979.pdf | Supplementary Information http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/vaop/ncurrent/suppinfo/nn1979_S1.ht\ ml[http://www.nature.com/images/spacer.gif] [http://www.nature.com/neuro/images/spacer_green.gif] [http://www.nature.com/images/spacer.gif] In a message dated 9/10/2007 5:34:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Man I really pity anybody that thinks she's telling the truth. She's an entertainer if that. On Sep 10, 2007, at 5:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wake up people. Ann Coulter is not stating anything that isn't true. -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 4:53 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Thank God that nobody (except for a few fans of Fox News) pays attention to her or believes anything she says... On Sep 10, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com , 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need help! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com ups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: http://www.jambands http://www.jambands.com/Features/content_2006_06_23.06.phtml .com/Features/content_2006_06_23.06.phtml great Ann Coulter Interview... That's the name of her book. Actually: Godless: The church of Liberalism
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The examples you have given equal religion vs. no religion. Pick one of your examples. Let me make it perfectly clear, in my opinion, religion causes more problems than it is worth. How many of the people that were busted in NJ's political scandal a few days ago were Republican vs. Democrat? I don't know the breakdown but if I were to venture a guess I would say Democrat. asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So here's what always bothers me a bit about the modern day conservative. As I understand it conservative philosophy at it's heart is about limited government. Limited assistance and also limited involvement in individual decisions. And while I don't always agree with individual application of that philosophy I do respect it and in many cases think there is significant merit to it. But those who consider themselves conservatives today have perverted that philosophy. It's no longer limited government. Now it's limited government involvement unless someone wants to do something we don't like - then the government needs to mandate how everyone should live. There are so many examples of this, from Terry Shiavo (I know I can't spell) to fighting gay marriage (why is it the government's business who marries who) to a women's right to choose. There are so many other examples... If conservatives are about limited government and liberals are about government involvement then I think the only real conservatives left are the Libertains. Because those who today label themselves conservative are often just religious liberal, using the government to drive their own agenda just as traditional liberals do. The only difference is that atleast traditional liberals are honest about it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
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Gary, Most people on this thread are entertainers...and bad ones at that! -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 5:28 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Man I really pity anybody that thinks she's telling the truth.? She's an entertainer? if that. On Sep 10, 2007, at 5:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wake up people.? Ann Coulter is not stating anything that isn't true. -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 4:53 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Thank God that nobody (except for a few fans of Fox News) pays attention to her or believes anything she says... On Sep 10, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need help! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: http://www.jambands.com/Features/content_2006_06_23.06.phtml great Ann Coulter Interview... That's the name of her book. Actually: Godless: The church of Liberalism Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658
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Although one could also say practice what you preach. There's little doubt to most of the country that Republicans have been far more hypocritical in the way they live their lives. Every time a Republican gets caught doing something like adultry or prostitution it looks far worse than when a Democrat gets caught because it just reaffirms the way some of us feel - that Republicans USE RELIGION rather than our truly religious. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, While I would agree that liberals have no god is a blanket statement and is probably not 100% accurate. However, one has to agree that on the whole liberals have been far more anti-god than conservatives -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!
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No one monopolizes either. Liberals, or Progressives, signify a free for all lifestyle to me based on my many years of life experience and Republicans are more conservative. Religion and Conservative just seem to go together. Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
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Conservatives only pretend to be religious but actually worship money. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, While I would agree that liberals have no god is a blanket statement and is probably not 100% accurate. However, one has to agree that on the whole liberals have been far more anti-god than conservatives -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!
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On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: But I find it rather odd that people equate God and religion. I for one never thought it was God who wanted a religious form of fellowship, but rather a fellowship in personal relationship between God and believer. I as a minister, do not foster religiosity. I promote individual relationship. I find the symbols and high church attributes culturally beneficial, but does little to cause a soul to desire the relationship. I agree with you. I think people can be very religious or spiritual and not belong to an organized religion. Personally, I think organized religions are behind much of the problems in the world because they do pit people against people. Much of the world's intolerance comes from against the religion of others. Many of the wars fought were fought in the name of religion. And many of the greatest criminal swindlers made their money from pretending to be a spiritual leader. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Religion and Conservative just seem to go together. Huh? Does this sound like a Republican?: 21 Jesus said to him, If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me. Does this sound like a Republican?: 25 For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Does this sound like a Republican?: 18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed Does this sound like a Republican?: 12 He said also to the man who had invited him, When you give a dinner or a banquet, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your kinsmen or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return, and you be repaid. 13 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, 14 and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just. Does this sound like a Republican?: [13] No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:14 PM, Mike Hemeon wrote: No one monopolizes either. Liberals, or Progressives, signify a free for all lifestyle to me based on my many years of life experience and Republicans are more conservative. Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Gary, Kind of like that Representative Jefferson from New Orleans.? He is a Reverend of some sort.? He got caught with 30,000 wrapped in plastic bags...in his refrigerator!? Oh but wait he was a democrat! Kind of like Bob Packwood, he put his hand on a womans leg and had to resign, versus Bill Clinton who allegedly raped a chick (Juanota Broderick) and is given an atta boy by the press. Where are all the bleeding heart homosexual lovers when it comes to supporting Senator Craig.? Now who is the hypocrite? -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 2:22 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Although one could also say practice what you preach.? There's little doubt to most of the country that Republicans have been far more hypocritical in the way they live their lives.? Every time a Republican gets caught doing something like adultry or prostitution it looks far worse than when a Democrat gets caught because it just reaffirms the way some of us feel - that Republicans USE RELIGION rather than our truly religious. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, ? While I would agree that liberals have no god is a blanket statement and is probably not 100% accurate.? However, one has to agree that on the whole liberals have been far more anti-god than conservatives -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Gary, I finally agree with you.? Muslims do seem to be the cause of most of the worlds problems since the vietnam war! -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 2:50 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: But I find it rather odd that people equate God and religion. I for one never thought it was God who wanted a religious form of fellowship, but rather a fellowship in personal relationship between God and believer. I as a minister, do not foster religiosity. I promote individual relationship. I find the symbols and high church attributes culturally beneficial, but does little to cause a soul to desire the relationship. I agree with you. I think people can be very religious or spiritual and not belong to an organized religion. Personally, I think organized religions are behind much of the problems in the world because they do pit people against people. Much of the world's intolerance comes from against the religion of others. Many of the wars fought were fought in the name of religion. And many of the greatest criminal swindlers made their money from pretending to be a spiritual leader. Yahoo! Groups Links Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Jersey John, I guess Representative Jefferson was really a conservative but was just pretending to be liberal.? And all those corrupts liberals in the NJ legislature...are just pretending to be liberal but are really conservative Learn something new everyday! -Original Message- From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 2:52 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Conservatives only pretend to be religious but actually worship money. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, ? While I would agree that liberals have no god is a blanket statement and is probably not 100% accurate.? However, one has to agree that on the whole liberals have been far more anti-god than conservatives -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program.? I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center.? --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism? is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. ? The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define? people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political? picture. ? If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to? survey the landscape.? ? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]? wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED], justifiedright? justifiedright@ wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Brown jerseykev@? wrote: ? It is? really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in? America! ? Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? ? My political view is way beyond the local arena! ? New jersey is not the litmus... ? Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. ? On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the? Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed? 655,000? Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? ? ? ? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free?AOL Mail! Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Jersey John, Not sure what your rambling post was about but this sure sounds Republican... GOD BLESS AMERICA! -Original Message- From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 3:02 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Religion and Conservative just seem to go together. Huh? Does this sound like a Republican?: 21 Jesus said to him, If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me. Does this sound like a Republican?: 25 For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Does this sound like a Republican?: 18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed Does this sound like a Republican?: 12 He said also to the man who had invited him, When you give a dinner or a banquet, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your kinsmen or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return, and you be repaid. 13 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, 14 and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just. Does this sound like a Republican?: [13] No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:14 PM, Mike Hemeon wrote: No one monopolizes either. Liberals, or Progressives, signify a free for all lifestyle to me based on my many years of life experience and Republicans are more conservative. Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. Yahoo! Groups Links Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't matter that Clinton did not preach right or wrong...I did not have sex with that woman...oh wait there is no governing authority that describes a bj as sex... (Al Gore, 2000)...And the media did not jump on the Clinton rape allegation becasue they did not want to believe it And Gary, I know independents, several are friends of mine... and ary...YOU'RE NO INDEPENDENT! That's funny. I guess you've never seen my voting record. I was raised in a strict Republican household. Problem is I can recognize that Republicans are liars and Democrats are liars. There are very few party related people who ever seem to admit that their side is wrong. That's why I'd never join either party. It's really funny the way Republicans treat independents. They act as if there's no such thing. Truth is that I think more people are independent than they'd realize. How can anyone believe everything one party has for its platform? If they have a brain they should pick and choose from both sides. I'm guessing that you'd have a hard time calling me a Democrat if I told you that I am a firm supporter in a flat tax, that I think illegal immigration has ruined the country, etc. There's more to life than talk radio and being told what to think... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Gary, Speaking of Talk Radio...You're sounding eerily similar to Al Franken! In your world belonging to a party makes it one sided, I guess you did not realize that each party has their own factions and all members of a party do not subscribe to one ideal face it, you are a liberal who has a few righteous beliefs (flat tax, anti ilegal immigration),,,that does not necessarily make you an independent...it makes you a liberal with a few righteous beliefs! and you have to admit that you've been bashing everything from the right...so now, I don't belive you to be independent! -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 4:28 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't matter that Clinton did not preach right or wrong...I did not have sex with that woman...oh wait there is no governing authority that describes a bj as sex... (Al Gore, 2000)...And the media did not jump on the Clinton rape allegation becasue they did not want to believe it And Gary, I know independents, several are friends of mine... and ary...YOU'RE NO INDEPENDENT! That's funny. I guess you've never seen my voting record. I was raised in a strict Republican household. Problem is I can recognize that Republicans are liars and Democrats are liars. There are very few party related people who ever seem to admit that their side is wrong. That's why I'd never join either party. It's really funny the way Republicans treat independents. They act as if there's no such thing. Truth is that I think more people are independent than they'd realize. How can anyone believe everything one party has for its platform? If they have a brain they should pick and choose from both sides. I'm guessing that you'd have a hard time calling me a Democrat if I told you that I am a firm supporter in a flat tax, that I think illegal immigration has ruined the country, etc. There's more to life than talk radio and being told what to think... Yahoo! Groups Links Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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But Toe-Tappin' Larry isn't gay, remember? On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, Kind of like that Representative Jefferson from New Orleans. He is a Reverend of some sort. He got caught with 30,000 wrapped in plastic bags...in his refrigerator! Oh but wait he was a democrat! Kind of like Bob Packwood, he put his hand on a womans leg and had to resign, versus Bill Clinton who allegedly raped a chick (Juanota Broderick) and is given an atta boy by the press. Where are all the bleeding heart homosexual lovers when it comes to supporting Senator Craig. Now who is the hypocrite? -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 2:22 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Although one could also say practice what you preach. There's little doubt to most of the country that Republicans have been far more hypocritical in the way they live their lives. Every time a Republican gets caught doing something like adultry or prostitution it looks far worse than when a Democrat gets caught because it just reaffirms the way some of us feel - that Republicans USE RELIGION rather than our truly religious. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, While I would agree that liberals have no god is a blanket statement and is probably not 100% accurate. However, one has to agree that on the whole liberals have been far more anti-god than conservatives -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!
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the sentence of former Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis Scooter Libby following Libby's conviction on obstruction of justice and perjury July 3, 2007: A grand jury report declares that the sale of public land to Republican Congressman Ken Calvert and his business partners violated the law July 11, 2007: Republican state Representative and Florida co- Chairman of McCain for President Bob Allen is arrested for soliciting a male undercover police officer, offering to pay $20 to perform oral sex July 16, 2007: Republican Senator David Vitter holds press conference acknowledging being on the D.C. Madam's list and past involvement with prostitutes July 16, 2007: Story breaks that Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski was involved in a sweetheart real estate deal July 19: Republican former state legislator Coy Privette is charged with six counts of aiding and abetting prostitution July 24, 2007: Michael Flory, former head of the Michigan Federation of Young Republicans, pleads guilty to sexual abuse July 26, 2007: Media report that Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski will sell back land purchased in a sweetheart deal, following close scrutiny of the shady transaction July 29, 2007: Glenn Murphy Jr., recently-elected Chairman of the Young Republican National Federation, is accused of sexually assaulting a sleeping man July 30, 2007: The FBI and IRS raid the home of Republican Senator Ted Stevens following investigations into Stevens' dealings with the corrupt VECO Corporation August 2, 2007: Bush administration senior adviser Karl Rove disregards a Congressional subpoena and refuses to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee August 6, 2007: Investigation called for after House Republican Leader John Boehner leaked classified information regarding a secret court ruling over warrantless wiretapping August 8, 2007: Republican Senator Larry Craig pleads guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct following his June 11 arrest August 9, 2007: Major Republican donor Alan Fabian is charged with 23 counts of bankruptcy fraud, mail fraud, money laundering, obstruction of justice, and perjury August 15, 2007: Republican state House candidate Angelo Cappelli is arrested for perjury and grand theft August 22, 2007: Republican political consultant Roger Stone resigns his role with the New York state Senate Republicans after reports surfaced that he made a threatening, obscenity-laced phone call to the 83-year-old father of Governor Eliot Spitzer August 27, 2007: Story breaks that Republican Senator Larry Craig was arrested and pled guilty - he had not publicly disclosed the events to that point On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jersey John, I guess Representative Jefferson was really a conservative but was just pretending to be liberal. And all those corrupts liberals in the NJ legislature...are just pretending to be liberal but are really conservative Learn something new everyday! -Original Message- From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 2:52 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Conservatives only pretend to be religious but actually worship money. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, While I would agree that liberals have no god is a blanket statement and is probably not 100% accurate. However, one has to agree that on the whole liberals have been far more anti-god than conservatives -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America
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Jersey John, Is that all you've got? Democrat corruption over the last three months Democrats are harping on the corruption of the Republican Party. Please note that Democrat corruption in government is widespread and far reaching. I could have listed many examples of Democrat corruption such as Sandy Berger stealing documents from the National Archives- however- I decided to look at headlines over the last three months. The below are headline from September - just over 3 months of Democrat corruption. - An independent counsel who investigated possible tax violations by former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Henry Cisneros charged that the Clinton administration thwarted his efforts to get to the truth. - U.S. Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.) is under criminal investigation by the U.S. Justice Department for possible bribery in exchange for promoting business deals in Africa - Federal prosecutors alleged in court documents that Ernest Newton, a former state Democrat Connecticut senator worked with a reputed mobster and his associate to try to stop police raids on businesses and advance their business interests - Clarence Norman Jr., the longtime powerbroker of Brooklyn NY Democrats was found guilty of intentionally soliciting illegal campaign contributions. - A top aide to Jim Black, the Democratic speaker of the state Legislature of North Carolina, resigned amid reports he had received payments from a company hoping for the lottery contract. The .State Board of Elections is investigating Black's campaign finances. The investigation comes after the group Democracy North Carolina said it found evidence that video-poker operators were funneling money through unsuspecting donors to Black's campaign. - West Virginia.Logan County Clerk Glen Dale Hound Dog Adkins admitted to selling his vote for $500 in the 1996 Democratic Party primary, while Perry French Harvey Jr. pleaded guilty to conspiring to bribe voters in last year's Democratic contest - Former Democat Gov. Donald Siegelman of Alabama was charged in a widespread racketeering conspiracy that includes accusations he took a bribe from former hospital executive Richard Scrushy for a key state appointment. - Frank Ballance - a former Democrat Rep. from North Carolina was sentenced to four years in federal prison for conspiring to divert taxpayer money to his law firm and family through a charitable organization he helped start. Ballance, was a state senator before being elected to Congress in 2002, also agreed to repay $61,917 and to forfeit $203,000 in a bank escrow account in the name of the John A. Hyman Memorial Foundation. - Five Democratic activists in Wisconsin accused of slashing the tires of vans rented by Republicans on Election Day 2004 are currently on trial - Chuck Chvala, a Former Democrat Wisconsin Senate Majority Leader was sentenced to nine months in jail for felony misconduct in office and illegally funneling campaign contributions. Chvala had reached a plea deal with prosecutors earlier this year, admitting to charges that he directed a state employee to run a political campaign and used an independent expenditure group to funnel campaign contributions to a fellow Democrat. - Brett Pfeffer, a former legislative director to Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting bribery of a public official and conspiracy. - Raymond Reggie, a New Orleans political Democratic consultant and fund-raiser who is Senator Kennedy's brother-in-law was sentenced to a year in prison yesterday after pleading guilty to bank fraud charge Get a clue hypocrite! -Original Message- From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 4:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Jefferson? Is that all you got? Let's try this: January 23, 2007: Republican radio personality Scott Eller Cortelyou of Denver arrested on suspicion of using the Internet to lure a child into a sexual relationship January 29, 2007: Republican former Jefferson County, Colorado, Treasurer Mark Paschall indicted on two felony charges in connection with an allegation that Paschall solicited a kickback from a bonus he awarded one of his employees January 31, 2007: Republican Congressman Gary Miller is named by Republicans as ranking member of oversight subcommittee of House Financial Services Committee despite the FBI's investigation into his land deals February 14, 2007: Major Republican fundraiser Brent Wilkes and former CIA executive director Kyle Dusty Foggo are indicted by a grandy jury for corrupting CIA contracts February 16, 2007: Major Republican donor Abdul Tawala Ibn Ali Alishtari, aka Michael Mixon, is indicted in federal court on charges of providing material support to terrorists March 5, 2007: Ethics complaint filed against Republican Senator Pete Domenici for his role
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I believe one of the worst things to happen in my lifetime was NAFTA which I blame Clinton for. Does that make you happy? I admit I lean liberal on a lot of issues and conservative on others. Kinda sounds independent to me. But I guess because I don't worship at the altar of guys like Rush Limbaugh I would be considered a liberal. I love those guys. Dittoheads -- they proudly say they're a ditto head and then say the other side doesn't have a brain. Amazing! On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and you have to admit that you've been bashing everything from the right...so now, I don't belive you to be independent! -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 4:28 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't matter that Clinton did not preach right or wrong...I didnot have sex with that woman...oh wait there is no governing authority that describes a bj as sex... (Al Gore, 2000)...And the media did not jump on the Clinton rape allegation becasue they didnot want to believe it And Gary, I know independents, several are friends of mine... andary...YOU'RE NO INDEPENDENT! That's funny. I guess you've never seen my voting record. I was raised in a strict Republican household. Problem is I can recognize that Republicans are liars and Democrats are liars. There are very few party related people who ever seem to admit that their side is wrong. That's why I'd never join either party. It's really funny the way Republicans treat independents. They act as if there's no such thing. Truth is that I think more people are independent than they'd realize. How can anyone believe everything one party has for its platform? If they have a brain they should pick and choose from both sides. I'm guessing that you'd have a hard time calling me a Democrat if I told you that I am a firm supporter in a flat tax, that I think illegal immigration has ruined the country, etc. There's more to life than talk radio and being told what to think... Yahoo! Groups Links to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join(Yahoo! ID Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!
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Jersey John, At a minimum, Senator Craig is accused of being gay!? So why aren't all the bleeding hearts now rushing to his defense...because of hypocrisy...the only group who has rushed to his defense are the log cabin republicans It's the same hypocrisy that was evidents when feminist groups did not renounce clinton -Original Message- From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 4:46 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God But Toe-Tappin' Larry isn't gay, remember? On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, Kind of like that Representative Jefferson from New Orleans.? He is a Reverend of some sort.? He got caught with 30,000 wrapped in plastic bags...in his refrigerator!? Oh but wait he was a democrat! ? Kind of like Bob Packwood, he put his hand on a womans leg and had to resign, versus Bill Clinton who allegedly raped a chick (Juanota Broderick) and is given an atta boy by the press. ? Where are all the bleeding heart homosexual lovers when it comes to supporting Senator Craig.? Now who is the hypocrite? -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 2:22 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Although one could also say practice what you preach.? There's little doubt to most of the country that Republicans have been far more hypocritical in the way they live their lives.? Every time a Republican gets caught doing something like adultry or prostitution it looks far worse than when a Democrat gets caught because it just reaffirms the way some of us feel - that Republicans USE RELIGION rather than our truly religious. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:12 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Greg, ? While I would agree that liberals have no god is a blanket statement and is probably not 100% accurate.? However, one has to agree that on the whole liberals have been far more anti-god than conservatives -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program.? I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center.? --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism? is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. ? The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define? people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political? picture. ? If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to? survey the landscape.? ? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]? wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED], justifiedright? justifiedright@ wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Brown jerseykev@? wrote: ? It is? really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in? America! ? Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? ? My political view is way beyond the local arena! ? New jersey is not the litmus... ? Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. ? On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the? Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed? 655,000? Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? ? ? ? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free?AOL Mail! Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Gary, My point is being a follower a particular party does not meam he/she follows 100% of their ideals An independent is different than a conservatove democrat or a moderate republican The NJ 11 were? probably independent as well in that they didn't care who they got money from! -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 5:03 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God I believe one of the worst things to happen in my lifetime was NAFTA which I blame Clinton for. Does that make you happy? I admit I lean liberal on a lot of issues and conservative on others.? Kinda sounds independent to me.? But I guess because I don't worship at the altar of guys like Rush Limbaugh I would be considered a liberal.? ?I love those guys.? Dittoheads -- they proudly say they're a ditto head and then say the other side doesn't have a brain.? Amazing! On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ? and you have to admit that you've been bashing everything from the right...so now, I don't belive you to be independent! -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 4:28 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Just to be sure people,? my point is not to say (as is insinuated by Jersey John) that Republicans do not have corruption within their ranks or only dems have corruption...my point is that there is corruption on both sides I am trying to be a counterbalance to the all republicans are evil argument; And yes I am a republican and yes I am proud of it!? That being said, there are dems that I repsect, Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller come immediately to mind! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 5:03 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Jersey John, Is that all you've got? Democrat corruption over the last three months Democrats are harping on the corruption of the Republican Party. Please note that Democrat corruption in government is widespread and far reaching. I could have listed many examples of Democrat corruption such as Sandy Berger stealing documents from the National Archives- however- I decided to look at headlines over the last three months. The below are headline from September - just over 3 months of Democrat corruption. - An independent counsel who investigated possible tax violations by former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Henry Cisneros charged that the Clinton administration thwarted his efforts to get to the truth. - U.S. Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.) is under criminal investigation by the U.S. Justice Department for possible bribery in exchange for promoting business deals in Africa - Federal prosecutors alleged in court documents that Ernest Newton, a former state Democrat Connecticut senator worked with a reputed mobster and his associate to try to stop police raids on businesses and advance their business interests - Clarence Norman Jr., the longtime powerbroker of Brooklyn NY Democrats was found guilty of intentionally soliciting illegal campaign contributions. - A top aide to Jim Black, the Democratic speaker of the state Legislature of North Carolina, resigned amid reports he had received payments from a company hoping for the lottery contract. The .State Board of Elections is investigating Black's campaign finances. The investigation comes after the group Democracy North Carolina said it found evidence that video-poker operators were funneling money through unsuspecting donors to Black's campaign. - West Virginia.Logan County Clerk Glen Dale Hound Dog Adkins admitted to selling his vote for $500 in the 1996 Democratic Party primary, while Perry French Harvey Jr. pleaded guilty to conspiring to bribe voters in last year's Democratic contest - Former Democat Gov. Donald Siegelman of Alabama was charged in a widespread racketeering conspiracy that includes accusations he took a bribe from former hospital executive Richard Scrushy for a key state appointment. - Frank Ballance - a former Democrat Rep. from North Carolina was sentenced to four years in federal prison for conspiring to divert taxpayer money to his law firm and family through a charitable organization he helped start. Ballance, was a state senator before being elected to Congress in 2002, also agreed to repay $61,917 and to forfeit $203,000 in a bank escrow account in the name of the John A. Hyman Memorial Foundation. - Five Democratic activists in Wisconsin accused of slashing the tires of vans rented by Republicans on Election Day 2004 are currently on trial - Chuck Chvala, a Former Democrat Wisconsin Senate Majority Leader was sentenced to nine months in jail for felony misconduct in office and illegally funneling campaign contributions. Chvala had reached a plea deal with prosecutors earlier this year, admitting to charges that he directed a state employee to run a political campaign and used an independent expenditure group to funnel campaign contributions to a fellow Democrat. - Brett Pfeffer, a former legislative director to Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting bribery of a public official and conspiracy. - Raymond Reggie, a New Orleans political Democratic consultant and fund-raiser who is Senator Kennedy's brother-in-law was sentenced to a year in prison yesterday after pleading guilty to bank fraud charge Get a clue hypocrite! -Original Message- From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 4:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Jefferson? Is that all you got? Let's try this: January 23, 2007: Republican radio personality Scott Eller Cortelyou of Denver arrested on suspicion of using the Internet to lure a child into a sexual relationship January 29, 2007: Republican former Jefferson County, Colorado, Treasurer Mark Paschall indicted on two felony charges in connection with an allegation that Paschall solicited a kickback from a bonus he awarded one of his employees January 31, 2007: Republican Congressman Gary
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As usual, you're just making things up: He was accused of solicitation in a public restroom, not of being gay. Try to stop getting ALL your info from Thrush King Vicodin Limpballs. It's the repukelicans who are, shall we say, uncomfortable with the gay aspect of the story. Also, where were the stone hearted repubs? Why weren't they rallying around their own? A Republican senator who has represented his state in the U.S. Congress for 27 years is finding himself increasingly isolated from his political allies as more members of his party call for him to resign over his arrest in an airport men's room on a disorderly conduct charge. http://tinyurl.com/yw7697 And why, exactly, do you think feminist groups should have renounce clinton? (Of course, without Clenis™, you're nothing) On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jersey John, At a minimum, Senator Craig is accused of being gay! So why aren't all the bleeding hearts now rushing to his defense...because of hypocrisy...the only group who has rushed to his defense are the log cabin republicans It's the same hypocrisy that was evidents when feminist groups did not renounce clinton -Original Message- From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 4:46 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God But Toe-Tappin' Larry isn't gay, remember? On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, Kind of like that Representative Jefferson from New Orleans. He is a Reverend of some sort. He got caught with 30,000 wrapped in plastic bags...in his refrigerator! Oh but wait he was a democrat! Kind of like Bob Packwood, he put his hand on a womans leg and had to resign, versus Bill Clinton who allegedly raped a chick (Juanota Broderick) and is given an atta boy by the press. Where are all the bleeding heart homosexual lovers when it comes to supporting Senator Craig. Now who is the hypocrite? -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 2:22 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Although one could also say practice what you preach. There's little doubt to most of the country that Republicans have been far more hypocritical in the way they live their lives. Every time a Republican gets caught doing something like adultry or prostitution it looks far worse than when a Democrat gets caught because it just reaffirms the way some of us feel - that Republicans USE RELIGION rather than our truly religious. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, While I would agree that liberals have no god is a blanket statement and is probably not 100% accurate. However, one has to agree that on the whole liberals have been far more anti-god than conservatives -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math? __ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658
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Thanks for the heads up about wrap text?DF.? Webmail formatting is a pain in the ass. I will take better caution in future posts! -Original Message- From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 5:29 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please select wrap text. Yahoo! Groups Links Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Jersey John, There you go with the name calling. I admit I am uncomfortable with Craig since he has always run on family values and I am uncomfortable with someone using that platform having an alternative lifestyle...that being said it is also not surprising that all those bleeding heart supporters of alternative lifestyles have not come to his defense. Are you for real into why feminist groups shoudl not have denounced Clinton? You are kidding right? -Original Message- From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 5:32 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God As usual, you're just making things up: He was accused of olicitation in a public restroom, not of being gay. Try to stop etting ALL your info from Thrush King Vicodin Limpballs. It's the epukelicans who are, shall we say, uncomfortable with the gay aspect f the story. Also, where were the stone hearted repubs? Why weren't hey rallying around their own? A Republican senator who has represented his state in the U.S. ongress for 27 years is finding himself increasingly isolated from is political allies as more members of his party call for him to esign over his arrest in an airport men's room on a disorderly onduct charge. http://tinyurl.com/yw7697 And why, exactly, do you think feminist groups should have renounce linton? (Of course, without Clenis™, you're nothing) n Sep 11, 2007, at 4:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jersey John, At a minimum, Senator Craig is accused of being gay! So why aren't all the bleeding hearts now rushing to his defense...because of hypocrisy...the only group who has rushed to his defense are the log cabin republicans It's the same hypocrisy that was evidents when feminist groups did not renounce clinton -Original Message- From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 4:46 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God But Toe-Tappin' Larry isn't gay, remember? On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, Kind of like that Representative Jefferson from New Orleans. He is a Reverend of some sort. He got caught with 30,000 wrapped in plastic bags...in his refrigerator! Oh but wait he was a democrat! Kind of like Bob Packwood, he put his hand on a womans leg and had to resign, versus Bill Clinton who allegedly raped a chick (Juanota Broderick) and is given an atta boy by the press. Where are all the bleeding heart homosexual lovers when it comes to supporting Senator Craig. Now who is the hypocrite? -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 2:22 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Although one could also say practice what you preach. There's little doubt to most of the country that Republicans have been far more hypocritical in the way they live their lives. Every time a Republican gets caught doing something like adultry or prostitution it looks far worse than when a Democrat gets caught because it just reaffirms the way some of us feel - that Republicans USE RELIGION rather than our truly religious. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, While I would agree that liberals have no god is a blanket statement and is probably not 100% accurate. However, one has to agree that on the whole liberals have been far more anti-god than conservatives -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Why is it true that liberals have no God? Did the Republican Party monopolize religion? On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Mike Hemeon wrote: Being a Conservative take more work than being a Liberal. If you're a liberal anything goes. One issue to watch in the future is National Healthcare. It is true that liberals have no god and that being said, euthanasia will become part of the National Healthcare program. I would imagine you would just check-in to a check-out center. --- justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising
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Thank God that nobody (except for a few fans of Fox News) pays attention to her or believes anything she says... On Sep 10, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need help! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: http://www.jambands.com/Features/content_2006_06_23.06.phtml great Ann Coulter Interview... That's the name of her book. Actually: Godless: The church of Liberalism
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Wake up people.? Ann Coulter is not stating anything that isn't true. -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 4:53 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Thank God that nobody (except for a few fans of Fox News) pays attention to her or believes anything she says... On Sep 10, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need help! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: http://www.jambands.com/Features/content_2006_06_23.06.phtml great Ann Coulter Interview... That's the name of her book. Actually: Godless: The church of Liberalism .com/Features/content_2006_06_23.06.phtml great Ann Coulter Interview... That's the name of her book. Actually: Godless: The church of Liberalism Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Even interview has a tenuous connection to the blond harpy in a black slip dress. She bloviates. She does not interview. On Sep 10, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Hinge wrote: The words Great and Ann Coulter should never be used together. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank God that nobody (except for a few fans of Fox News) pays attention to her or believes anything she says... On Sep 10, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: You need help! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: http://www.jambands.com/Features/content_2006_06_23.06.phtml great Ann Coulter Interview... That's the name of her book. Actually: Godless: The church of Liberalism
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Man I really pity anybody that thinks she's telling the truth. She's an entertainer if that. On Sep 10, 2007, at 5:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wake up people. Ann Coulter is not stating anything that isn't true. -Original Message- From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 4:53 pm Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Liberals Have No God Thank God that nobody (except for a few fans of Fox News) pays attention to her or believes anything she says... On Sep 10, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need help! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: http://www.jambands.com/Features/content_2006_06_23.06.phtml great Ann Coulter Interview... That's the name of her book. Actually: Godless: The church of Liberalism Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!
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Somewhere, Keith Olbermann is sticking pins in a Bill O'Reilly voodoo doll: Fox News' ratings, TVNewser reports, are down since August of last year. Like, way down. Like down 28 percent in primetime among all viewers, down 20 percent in primetime in the money demo (viewers aged 25-54) and down 7 percent in daytime viewership overall. In fact, the only place Fox is up is during the day, when they managed a ratings increase of just 2 percent, and even then only in the money demo. And lest you think this is an industry-wide trend, consider this: over the same time period, CNN and MSNBC are up. CNN's up 35 percent during the day -- 46 percent in the money demo -- and up 21 percent in primetime overall, 25 percent in the money demo. MSNBC's ratings increases aren't quite as impressive -- up 6 percent in primetime overall, 8 percent in the money demo, and up 36 percent in the money demo during the day, 26 percent overall. On Sep 10, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: yea well jambands.com is not your FOX News type media. Also Fox News the biggest ratings on Cable news. That means majority share. It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank God that nobody (except for a few fans of Fox News) pays attention to her or believes anything she says... On Sep 10, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: You need help! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: http://www.jambands.com/Features/content_2006_06_23.06.phtml great Ann Coulter Interview... That's the name of her book. Actually: Godless: The church of Liberalism
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Reporting on the ratings rivalry between the Fox News Channel (FNC) and CNN is often misleading--and almost always over-hyped. Fox Tops CNN as Choice for Cable News, declared one typical headline (Chicago Tribune , 3/24/03). Fox News Channel Continues to Crush CNN , reported Knight Ridder (Dallas Morning News , 2/3/04) in a column comparing the rivalry to a party primary: Fox News Channel is winning the Nielsen caucuses. Last summer (8/17/03), the New York Times Magazine declared, looking back at the period of the Iraq invasion, Fox was--and still is--trouncing CNN in the ratings. After exposure to countless similar stories published since January 2002, when Fox was reported to have surpassed CNN in the Nielsen ratings, one might naturally conclude that Fox has more viewers than CNN . But it's not true. On any given day, more people typically tune to CNN than to Fox . So what are the media reports talking about? With few exceptions, stories about the media business report a single number for ratings (often expressed two different ways--as points or share). This number is often presented as if it were the result of a popularity contest or a democratic vote. But it is actually the average number of viewers watching a station or a show in a typical minute, based on Nielsen Media Research's monitoring of thousands of households. The average is arrived at by counting viewers every minute. Heavy viewers--those who tune in to a station and linger there--have a greater impact, as they can be counted multiple times as they watch throughout the day. When an outlet reports that CNN is trailing Fox , they are almost invariably using this average tally, which Fox has been winning for the past two years. For the year 2003, Nielsen's average daily ratings show Fox beating CNN 1.02 million viewers to 665,000. But there is another important number collected by Nielsen (though only made available to the firm's clients) that tells another story. This is the cume, the cumulative total number of viewers who watch a channel for at least six minutes during a given day. Unlike the average ratings number the media usually report, this number gives the same weight to the light viewer, who tunes in for a brief time, as it does to the heavy viewer. How can CNN have more total viewers when Fox has such a commanding lead in average viewers? Conventional industry wisdom is that CNN viewers tune in briefly to catch up on news and headlines, while Fox viewers watch longer for the opinion and personality-driven programming. Because the smaller total number of Fox viewers are watching more hours, they show up in the ratings as a higher average number of viewers. CNN regularly claims a cume about 20 percent higher than Fox 's (Deseret Morning News , 1/12/04). For instance, in April 2003, during the height of the fighting in Iraq, CNN 's cume was significantly higher than Fox 's: 105 million viewers tuned into CNN compared to 86 million for Fox (Cablefax , 4/30/03). But in the same period, the ratings reported by most media outlets had Fox in the lead, with an average of 3.5 million viewers to CNN 's 2.2 million. Even among Fox 's core audience of conservatives, CNN has an edge in total viewership. A study by the ad agency Carat USA (Hollywood Reporter , 8/13/03) found that 37 percent of viewers calling themselves very conservative watch CNN in the course of a week, while only 32 percent tune to Fox . On Sep 10, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: yea well jambands.com is not your FOX News type media. Also Fox News the biggest ratings on Cable news. That means majority share. It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank God that nobody (except for a few fans of Fox News) pays attention to her or believes anything she says... On Sep 10, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: You need help! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: http://www.jambands.com/Features/content_2006_06_23.06.phtml great Ann Coulter Interview... That's the name of her book. Actually: Godless: The church of Liberalism
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Reality bites. On Sep 10, 2007, at 7:08 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you?
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Tommy, We should all try to get together at the Wonder Bar one night. Whether or not we can keep it open it would be good to have people from the list celebrating Asbury Park regardless of any other political or philosophical views. There is one thing we generally have in common. We may not all agree on the best way for Asbury to come back, but we all want Asbury to come back. -Gary On Sep 10, 2007, at 9:42 PM, justifiedright wrote: I'm not talking about Jersey Kevin. For you to say Conservativism is on the rise nationally - well you just aren't paying attention. The only issue out there is Iraq. All other issues that define people as conservative or liberal are barely in the political picture. If you are going to be a political advisor, you'd better be able to survey the landscape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: It is really bugging Liberals that Conservatives are rising in America! Errr, you don't follow politics too much, do you? My political view is way beyond the local arena! New jersey is not the litmus... Watch come this Sunday - should be interesting. On the eve of The anniversary of terrorist attacks on the WTC, the Pentegon and Flight 93 - even crazed Rosie declaring we killed 655,000 Iraqi citizens. I don't know who is doing her math?
