Re: Homesite 5.5
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > FWIW, the other Eclipse based IDE for CF, CFEclipse runs on Linux. Yes, and if, like me, you regularly switch between a big Mac desktop and a small Linux netbook, it becomes very clear, very quickly just how much more CFBuilder brings to the table (than CFEclipse) and why CFBuilder is worth every penny of its $299 sticker price. No disrespect to CFEclipse - it's a great open source project and I used it a lot years ago and I use it heavily today when I'm on my netbook - but it is a pale shadow next to CFBuilder's full feature set. I can't comment on how the free "Express" edition of CFBuilder compares tho'... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ "Perfection is the enemy of the good." -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345316 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
FWIW, the other Eclipse based IDE for CF, CFEclipse runs on Linux. >On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question... Does the CFBuilder >Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box? I can understand the standalone >being a windows only thing as they put the package together using the >Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work? I wanted to give it a try >again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version anywhere. > >Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345307 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Well, it's installed. I've not done anything but open it up, but I gotta say, it opens a hell of a lot faster than DW CS4 ever did. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345256 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
"I hate to sound like I'm hating on CFB - I love CFB - but I'm giving up on using it for front end dev and just going to use it for pure CF." I agree 100% with this. And it's not hating on CF. It's just using CF's stronger attributes (server side computing) and using other tools for client-side. It is very tempting anytime someone asks a question about cfform or cflayout to advise someone to switch to an alternative method, but I hold my tongue. To each their own. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345251 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Not old just started early. And that cheap university didn't want to update the PDP system for the psych department. That said, you may want to check out Ray Camden's blog. He has a lot of entries on developing for mobile apps. See http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/Mobile Also Ben Nadel may have some blog posts about it. >Ok, Ok, all you old people have your memories >while me as a 70 year old upstart can only go >back to my C-64 days, which seems only last week ;) > >I REALLY like when you guys get discussing old school vs new school. > >I do have a quick question tho: >What pointers do you have to makes sure a website written in CF8 will >work on a smartphone and are there any emulators I could download to test my >work? > >Terry ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345244 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
> > After punching all that data in I was walking to the > > card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... > > I've heard a similar story a few times, and I don't get it. > > If I had a large stack of cards, especially one that had to stay > ordered, I'd get a piece of string and make a quick bundle, and then > you remove the risk of them separating in transit. > Alternatively, a simple box would probably work - I assume cardboard > boxes had been invented back then? :P > > Of course, the less high-tech solution is to just look where you're > going and not be clumsy. ;) I seem to remember that when I asked for one the lab assistant said, Boxes?!?! Boxex!?! We don't need no stinkin' boxes!. That's what I got for selecting a very underfunded public university. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345239 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I don't have time to play with this now. But it looks like there is a way to manually update the Visual JQuery builder to 1.4.2 - If I understand how CFBuilder was put together, the JQuery view came as part of the Aptana features. https://github.com/andreberg/Aptana-Studio-2-jQuery1.4.2-Plugin Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > Interesting - I had no idea about the visual jquery view. However it > looks to be -quite- old. Also, CFB's built in jQuery support is also > 'stuck' back in 1.3.x with no way to update it. :\ > > I hate to sound like I'm hating on CFB - I love CFB - but I'm giving > up on using it for front end dev and just going to use it for pure CF. > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: >> >>> Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery >>> development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work >>> as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you >>> are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general >>> is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while >>> since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. >>> >>> Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give >>> DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. >>> >> >> For JQuery and other JS development I just use another Eclipse Plugin. >> CFBuilder has the Visual Jquery view. Also MyEclipse has some very good Ajax >> and Jquery views as well. In addition to all the other advantages of this >> flavour of Eclipse. >> >> > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345238 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Hmmm. The Visual jQuery view _loaded_, but doesn't actually do anything. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > Interesting - I had no idea about the visual jquery view. However it > looks to be -quite- old. Also, CFB's built in jQuery support is also > 'stuck' back in 1.3.x with no way to update it. :\ > > I hate to sound like I'm hating on CFB - I love CFB - but I'm giving > up on using it for front end dev and just going to use it for pure CF. > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: >> >>>Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery >>>development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work >>>as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you >>>are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general >>>is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while >>>since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. >>> >>>Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give >>>DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. >>> >> >> For JQuery and other JS development I just use another Eclipse Plugin. >> CFBuilder has the Visual Jquery view. Also MyEclipse has some very good Ajax >> and Jquery views as well. In addition to all the other advantages of this >> flavour of Eclipse. >> >> ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Interesting - I had no idea about the visual jquery view. However it looks to be -quite- old. Also, CFB's built in jQuery support is also 'stuck' back in 1.3.x with no way to update it. :\ I hate to sound like I'm hating on CFB - I love CFB - but I'm giving up on using it for front end dev and just going to use it for pure CF. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > >>Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery >>development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work >>as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you >>are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general >>is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while >>since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. >> >>Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give >>DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. >> > > For JQuery and other JS development I just use another Eclipse Plugin. > CFBuilder has the Visual Jquery view. Also MyEclipse has some very good Ajax > and Jquery views as well. In addition to all the other advantages of this > flavour of Eclipse. > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345236 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
>From what I see, the SVN client version in DW is 1.6.9. Not sure what >that means for your SVN servers. To be honest, I ind SVN buddy in >Eclipse as well so this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. > While DW does have an SVN integration, I've never been able to get it to work adequately. I either use an Eclipse PLugin like subversion or TortoiseSVN ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345235 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
>Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery >development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work >as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you >are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general >is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while >since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. > >Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give >DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. > For JQuery and other JS development I just use another Eclipse Plugin. CFBuilder has the Visual Jquery view. Also MyEclipse has some very good Ajax and Jquery views as well. In addition to all the other advantages of this flavour of Eclipse. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345234 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
> > After punching all that data in I was walking to the card reader > > with them in one huge stack and I tripped... Thus, the origins of the expression: "I'm gonna shuffle his deck!" Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin & Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be &. Plug in to our blog: A&W Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345232 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Peter Boughton wrote: > > > After punching all that data in I was walking to the > > card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... > > I've heard a similar story a few times, and I don't get it. > > If I had a large stack of cards, especially one that had to stay ordered, I'd > get a piece of string and make a quick bundle, and then you remove the risk > of them separating in transit. > Alternatively, a simple box would probably work - I assume cardboard boxes > had been invented back then? :P > > Of course, the less high-tech solution is to just look where you're going and > not be clumsy. ;) I always had them in boxes. You didn't want to tie them up or use too many rubber bands or sometimes they wouldn't go through the readers properly. Paper tape from the teletypes were similarly sensitive at times, but much more forgiving than cards. I still have a paper tape reader in my office in case there is something in our regulatory archive on paper tape. As a side note, the paper used for cards was really nice card stock. Used cards and the dots from the paper tape punch offered incredible opportunities for pranks. You never left your windows cracked in the Summer if there was a prankster in your office. -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/roger-austin/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
> After punching all that data in I was walking to the > card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... I've heard a similar story a few times, and I don't get it. If I had a large stack of cards, especially one that had to stay ordered, I'd get a piece of string and make a quick bundle, and then you remove the risk of them separating in transit. Alternatively, a simple box would probably work - I assume cardboard boxes had been invented back then? :P Of course, the less high-tech solution is to just look where you're going and not be clumsy. ;) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345230 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
"That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to move to something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it supports JavaScript." It's only a matter of time. I am slowly migrating to the mac. When I am using my mac, I use Dreamweaver CS 5. Compared to the older versions of DW, it's not bad at all. I like it better than CFEclipse. And as you said, it does a nice job with Javascript (very nice with the continuing growth of jQuery). I've already started customizing the tags in DW. I had so many macros and customizations that made Homesite my tool of choice. After enough customization, DW will probably be a more than capable replacement. Now, if they would only implement tabs as spaces. J ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345229 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
Probably whenever whatever will replace GIT starts to become popular LOL -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 06:37 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Matthew Williams wrote: > Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? Yes, DW finally got SVN after years and years of people begging for version control support. Back in the DW2 days, the Macromedia Web Team were begging for CVS support internally! So eventually DW gets SVN support, just about the time most everyone begins to switch to git... we'll see whether it ever gets git support :( > As an aside, CS4 corrected my AMD issues, but now I have an i5 CPU to > play on so it's an issue left long in the dust. I I find DW CS4 runs OK on my i7 (iMac) but it's still a lot slower than I would expect on such a powerful machine. Does DW CS5.5 have improved performance, Ray? > I have DW CS4 installed, but since I > offload all HTML look and feel to others in my group (I turn their > work into templates for our CMS), it's a very rare day that I open it. Yeah, that's kinda my position in my work... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ "Perfection is the enemy of the good." -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345225 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Matthew Williams wrote: > Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? Yes, DW finally got SVN after years and years of people begging for version control support. Back in the DW2 days, the Macromedia Web Team were begging for CVS support internally! So eventually DW gets SVN support, just about the time most everyone begins to switch to git... we'll see whether it ever gets git support :( > As an aside, CS4 corrected my AMD issues, but now I have an i5 CPU to > play on so it's an issue left long in the dust. I I find DW CS4 runs OK on my i7 (iMac) but it's still a lot slower than I would expect on such a powerful machine. Does DW CS5.5 have improved performance, Ray? > I have DW CS4 installed, but since I > offload all HTML look and feel to others in my group (I turn their work > into templates for our CMS), it's a very rare day that I open it. Yeah, that's kinda my position in my work... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ "Perfection is the enemy of the good." -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345223 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
>>it's been a while since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. Really now? Aptana is a fantastic editor for JS. Intrigued, I gave DW 5.5 a test spin and it's JS/jjQuery support is indeed VERY impressive. Thanx for the heads up. BTW in order to try it out I had to DL the entire Master Collection. All five GIGs of it. There is no stand alone DW 5.5 DL (that I could find at least) on the Adobe Site. G! On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery > development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work > as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you > are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general > is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while > since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. > > Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give > DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams > wrote: > > > > That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the > > time was I got a new laptop. The version of DW I was using at the time > > didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at > > 100% every time you used it. It made for a seriously bad day to have it > > running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship. Since I > > don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type > > dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it. > > > > > > Matthew Williams > > Geodesic Gr > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
It's not the CFBuilder's team's fault really. The licensing software adobe uses is win/mac only. Linux is still a very small market still. I am surprised that Adobe supported Mac for so many years (when it was like 3% of the market) before the last few year's boom. MD Sent from one of my many iDevices On 12 Jun 2011, at 21:21, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > That's what I thought, but wanted to verify. Not very smart on Adobe's part > since Eclipse is on *nix and mac... Thanks! > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 02:57 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 > > > CFB - as a standalone or plugin, is Windows/Mac only. > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Eric Roberts > wrote: >> >> On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question... Does the >> CFBuilder Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box? I can understand the >> standalone being a windows only thing as they put the package together >> using the Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work? I wanted to >> give it a try again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version > anywhere. >> >> Eric >> > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
That's what I thought, but wanted to verify. Not very smart on Adobe's part since Eclipse is on *nix and mac... Thanks! Eric -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 02:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 CFB - as a standalone or plugin, is Windows/Mac only. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question... Does the > CFBuilder Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box? I can understand the > standalone being a windows only thing as they put the package together > using the Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work? I wanted to > give it a try again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version anywhere. > > Eric > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345216 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
CFB - as a standalone or plugin, is Windows/Mac only. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question... Does the CFBuilder > Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box? I can understand the standalone > being a windows only thing as they put the package together using the > Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work? I wanted to give it a try > again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version anywhere. > > Eric > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question... Does the CFBuilder Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box? I can understand the standalone being a windows only thing as they put the package together using the Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work? I wanted to give it a try again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version anywhere. Eric -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 02:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Terry Troxel wrote: > I do have a quick question tho: > What pointers do you have to makes sure a website written in CF8 will > work on a smartphone and are there any emulators I could download to > test my work? If we ignore some of the client side capabilities of CF, like the Ajax-ui stuff, then the answer is - of course. CF generates stuff. That can HTML. XML. JSON. RayHTML, whatever. Therefore it isn't that CF is "supported" on a smartphone it's that CF can output anything you want As for emulators - you can emulate Android phones via the free Android SDK on any platform. For IOS, unfortunately, you have to have a Mac if you want the "official" emulator. But you can always get by with Safari and see how it looks. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Terry Troxel wrote: > I do have a quick question tho: > What pointers do you have to makes sure a website written in CF8 will > work on a smartphone and are there any emulators I could download to test my > work? If we ignore some of the client side capabilities of CF, like the Ajax-ui stuff, then the answer is - of course. CF generates stuff. That can HTML. XML. JSON. RayHTML, whatever. Therefore it isn't that CF is "supported" on a smartphone it's that CF can output anything you want As for emulators - you can emulate Android phones via the free Android SDK on any platform. For IOS, unfortunately, you have to have a Mac if you want the "official" emulator. But you can always get by with Safari and see how it looks. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
ah the old C64, that was my favourite 6502 Assembler was awesome. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Wil Genovese wrote: > > Here is an Adobe page about DW and SVN. > > > > Wil Genovese > Sr. Web Application Developer/ > Systems Administrator > CF Webtools > www.cfwebtools.com > > wilg...@trunkful.com > www.trunkful.com > > On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > > > > Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only > > an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick. > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams > > wrote: > >> > >> To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier > >> in my head. At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just > >> table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items. I've not dived into > >> jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial > incentive). > >> > >> Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? 95% > >> of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to > >> the team I work with to have it all combined into the I > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345207 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
The SVN client 1.6 will work with older 1.4.x SVN servers. But the reverse is not true. Also, if you have two SVN clients on your desktop, you should make sure they are the same version. If a repo was checked out with a 1.6.x client you cannot use a 1.4.x client. Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > From what I see, the SVN client version in DW is 1.6.9. Not sure what > that means for your SVN servers. To be honest, I ind SVN buddy in > Eclipse as well so this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: >> Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only >> an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick. >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams >> wrote: >>> >>> To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier >>> in my head. At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just >>> table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items. I've not dived into >>> jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive). >>> >>> Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? 95% >>> of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to >>> the team I work with to have it all combined into the IDE. >> > > > > -- > === > Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master > > Email: r...@camdenfamily.com > Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com > Twitter : cfjedimaster > > Keep up to date with Android news: http://www.android > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345206 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Here is an Adobe page about DW and SVN. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only > an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick. > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams > wrote: >> >> To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier >> in my head. At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just >> table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items. I've not dived into >> jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive). >> >> Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? 95% >> of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to >> the team I work with to have it all combined into the I > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345205 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Homesite 5.5
Ok, Ok, all you old people have your memories while me as a 70 year old upstart can only go back to my C-64 days, which seems only last week ;) I REALLY like when you guys get discussing old school vs new school. I do have a quick question tho: What pointers do you have to makes sure a website written in CF8 will work on a smartphone and are there any emulators I could download to test my work? Terry ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
I remember using a book for logarithms, and a slide rule, beat that, lol Thank goodness the ZX81 came along ;) Jenny >>-Original Message- >>From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] >>Sent: 12 June 2011 17:44 >>To: cf-talk >>Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 >> >> >> >>Not that it's even close, but I remember hitting a line limit when >>writing Pascal programs on my Apple 2e. I was devastated. :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345203 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Well, I guess since I'm a full time daytime dev again (after a 5 year stint as a full time CF server admin... I didn't change by choice), and I'm supposed to have access to the entire Adobe creative suite, I suppose it's time to give it a whirl again. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345201 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Not that it's even close, but I remember hitting a line limit when writing Pascal programs on my Apple 2e. I was devastated. :) On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > >>Ditto. Did my senior thesis in college, a trigometric theorem prover, >>using 9000+ key punch cards. >> >>IDE of choice now is still Dreamweaver, although I use Eclipse and >>Visual Studio for Java and .NET projects. >> > > In second year when I was taking Advanced Design and Data Analysis, I did a > study that ended up having over 300 subjects. Each one filled in a 200 item > questionnaire. Aside from the JCL and the stats program, the data cards took > 6 cards (one per item response). After punching all that data in I was > walking to the card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... -- === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master Email : r...@camdenfamily.com Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com Twitter : cfjedimaster Keep up to date with Android news: http://www.androidga ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345200 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
>Ditto. Did my senior thesis in college, a trigometric theorem prover, >using 9000+ key punch cards. > >IDE of choice now is still Dreamweaver, although I use Eclipse and >Visual Studio for Java and .NET projects. > In second year when I was taking Advanced Design and Data Analysis, I did a study that ended up having over 300 subjects. Each one filled in a 200 item questionnaire. Aside from the JCL and the stats program, the data cards took 6 cards (one per item response). After punching all that data in I was walking to the card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
>I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, moving >the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually >a cassette tape. > >My code is VERY precise. Just saying. > >Mark Drew My first coding job was putting patch cords on a panel to control an ancient PDP. Gives you a real good appreciation of Eclipse. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345198 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I always used TortoiseSVN anyway, but i see DW does include SVN now. The only reason I don;t use it is that you get conflicts if you try to use 2 tools to manage SVN you end up having problems if they don;t both support the same version. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Tony Weeg wrote: > > +420 for dw cs5 > > nothing compares > > Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate. > > On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > > > > Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery > > development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work > > as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you > > are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general > > is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while > > since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. > > > > Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give > > DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. > > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams > > wrote: > >> > >> That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the > >> time was I got a new laptop. The version of DW I was using at the time > >> didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at > >> 100% every time you used it. It made for a seriously bad day to have it > >> running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship. Since I > >> don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type > >> dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it. > >> > >> > >> Matthew Williams > >> Geodesic Gr > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
+420 for dw cs5 nothing compares Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate. On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery > development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work > as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you > are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general > is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while > since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. > > Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give > DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams > wrote: >> >> That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the >> time was I got a new laptop. The version of DW I was using at the time >> didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at >> 100% every time you used it. It made for a seriously bad day to have it >> running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship. Since I >> don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type >> dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it. >> >> >> Matthew Williams >> Geodesic Gr > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345196 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
>From what I see, the SVN client version in DW is 1.6.9. Not sure what that means for your SVN servers. To be honest, I ind SVN buddy in Eclipse as well so this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only > an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick. > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams > wrote: >> >> To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier >> in my head. At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just >> table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items. I've not dived into >> jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive). >> >> Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? 95% >> of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to >> the team I work with to have it all combined into the IDE. > -- === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master Email : r...@camdenfamily.com Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com Twitter : cfjedimaster Keep up to date with Android news: http://www.android ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345195 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams wrote: > > To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier > in my head. At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just > table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items. I've not dived into > jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive). > > Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? 95% > of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to > the team I work with to have it all combined into the I ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345194 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier in my head. At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items. I've not dived into jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive). Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can? 95% of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to the team I work with to have it all combined into the IDE. As an aside, CS4 corrected my AMD issues, but now I have an i5 CPU to play on so it's an issue left long in the dust. It was my incentive to switch my IDE, nothing more. I have DW CS4 installed, but since I offload all HTML look and feel to others in my group (I turn their work into templates for our CMS), it's a very rare day that I open it. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I thinks perhaps people have bad memories of DW or think of it as a web designers tool On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Raymond Camden wrote: > > Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery > development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work > as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you > are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general > is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while > since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. > > Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give > DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams > wrote: > > > > That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the > > time was I got a new laptop. The version of DW I was using at the time > > didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at > > 100% every time you used it. It made for a seriously bad day to have it > > running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship. Since I > > don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type > > dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it. > > > > > > Matthew Williams > > Geodesic Gr > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well. Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams wrote: > > That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the > time was I got a new laptop. The version of DW I was using at the time > didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at > 100% every time you used it. It made for a seriously bad day to have it > running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship. Since I > don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type > dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it. > > > Matthew Williams > Geodesic Gr ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the time was I got a new laptop. The version of DW I was using at the time didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at 100% every time you used it. It made for a seriously bad day to have it running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship. Since I don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345190 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote: > I probably need to look at Eclipse again, but on my last look at it, I would > seriously miss all of the UI advantages of Dreamweaver. If you do UI work, Dreamweaver is kickass and that's what you should use. If you do server-side work, CFBuilder is kickass and that's what you should use. I have CS4 and use DW and FW for UI stuff (for the HTML sites I maintain and the only bit of PHP). They're great tools for what they do. If I didn't already have CS4, I'd spend the $700 to buy DW/FW for the amount I use them. I bought CFB1 the moment it came out and I upgraded to CFB2 a few days after that came out. Definitely worth the $300 (or $410 that I've paid for both versions). As for Adobe supporting two CFML IDEs, that's not the case. The DW team is completely separate and doesn't really have to do anything to "support CFML" these days. They get an updated dictionary for each new CF release and that's about it. The CF team support CFB so it's tightly coupled to the CF server - which is how it should be. Adobe has one CFML IDE and it's extremely good. Adobe also has an extremely good HTML/CSS/JS editor - that just happens to have some CFML support. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ "Perfection is the enemy of the good." -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345188 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Ditto. Did my senior thesis in college, a trigometric theorem prover, using 9000+ key punch cards. IDE of choice now is still Dreamweaver, although I use Eclipse and Visual Studio for Java and .NET projects. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote: > > Sadly, I'm so old I've actually done that, lol > > >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] >>> >>>wow this is all very technical, what is a hard drive ? >>>I code by punching holes into a piece of card which is fed into a device >>>that reads the holes and performs functions according to the hole >>>positions. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
Or make Eclipse a Dreamweaver plugin? I probably need to look at Eclipse again, but on my last look at it, I would seriously miss all of the UI advantages of Dreamweaver. >>-Original Message- >>From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] >>Sent: 12 June 2011 01:11 >>To: cf-talk >>Subject: RE: Homesite 5.5 >> >> >> >>I would be wondering how long it would be before Dreamweaver becomes an >>Eclipse plugin!! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
> As it stands now, Adobe is now maintaining 2 CFML Editors I would argue that is not exactly the case. ColdFusion Builder is a pure CFML IDE, plain and simple. Dreamweaver, on the other hand, is capable of editing CF code, but that is just one of the many things that it does. It's hardly a "waste of money" for them to maintain both products as they have vastly different capabilities, purposes, and target audiences. It's like saying maintaining basketball and baseball at the same time is a waste (well, I suppose for some people that argument could go either way). They both involve players and a ball, but are vastly different games. Builder and Dreamweaver each have their strong points depending on the type of work you're doing. I'd argue that Dreamweaver is made more for front-end developers who happen to need to edit CF code from time to time (or PHP, or ASP, or whatever), while Builder is meant for those of us almost exclusively in the trenches with CF. Personally, I'm glad there are different products which each solve specific needs. -Justin Scott ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345184 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
The only real issue I have with DW is that it can't handle big files well and it is a serious system resource hog. It actually uses more CPU when it is minimised and not in use. You do need a pretty decent system to use it comfortably. Other than that it is a perfectly competent CFML editor with insight, auto complete, cfc generation, synchronization with remote servers, svn, and many other features that HS or CFE doesn't have. Russ On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > I would say the code editor is a second thought rather than DW being an > actual CFML editor. More like they added the ability to DW to handle CFML > kind of like you would add a plugin to eclipse. > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 07:11 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: Homesite 5.5 > > > I would be wondering how long it would be before Dreamweaver becomes an > Eclipse plugin!! > > As it stands now, Adobe is now maintaining 2 CFML Editors although both > have > complete different objectives. Begs the question, when will adobe wake up > to > this waste of money and decide to take the core of Dreamweaver as an > Eclipse > plugin where you could just install CFB and get the best of both worlds. > > Or is Adobe already secretly working towards this! > > > Regards, > Andrew Scott > http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > > > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:08 AM > > To: cf-talk > > Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 > > > > > > Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I > > forced > myself > > to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I would have given up. > > > > That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to > move to > > something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm > > really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it > supports > > JavaScript. > > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345183 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
I don't think you understand the bigger picture I put forward there. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > -Original Message- > From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] > Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 6:32 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: Homesite 5.5 > > > I would say the code editor is a second thought rather than DW being an > actual CFML editor. More like they added the ability to DW to handle CFML > kind of like you would add a plugin to eclipse. > > Eric > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345182 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
I would say the code editor is a second thought rather than DW being an actual CFML editor. More like they added the ability to DW to handle CFML kind of like you would add a plugin to eclipse. Eric -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 07:11 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Homesite 5.5 I would be wondering how long it would be before Dreamweaver becomes an Eclipse plugin!! As it stands now, Adobe is now maintaining 2 CFML Editors although both have complete different objectives. Begs the question, when will adobe wake up to this waste of money and decide to take the core of Dreamweaver as an Eclipse plugin where you could just install CFB and get the best of both worlds. Or is Adobe already secretly working towards this! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:08 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 > > > Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I > forced myself > to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I would have given up. > > That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to move to > something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm > really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it supports > JavaScript. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345181 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
Oh the days of making expensive mistakes. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > -Original Message- > From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] > Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 3:46 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 > > > wow this is all very technical, what is a hard drive ? > I code by punching holes into a piece of card which is fed into a device that > reads the holes and performs functions according to the hole positions. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345180 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
I would be wondering how long it would be before Dreamweaver becomes an Eclipse plugin!! As it stands now, Adobe is now maintaining 2 CFML Editors although both have complete different objectives. Begs the question, when will adobe wake up to this waste of money and decide to take the core of Dreamweaver as an Eclipse plugin where you could just install CFB and get the best of both worlds. Or is Adobe already secretly working towards this! Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:08 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 > > > Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I forced myself > to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I would have given up. > > That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to move to > something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm > really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it supports > JavaScript. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345179 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I love how this thread is comparing HomeSite to punch cards and other old fashioned computing technologies. In one sense, it's amazing that HomeSite had the staying power that it did. Kudos to the original Delphi developers for creating such a great platform. The only problem is that they did it in the 1990's. 15 years in computing, 15 years on the internet, we're talking about ancient history. I switched to Eclipse early on. I found myself at a company that had questionable licensing ethics, so when I started to hear about Eclipse, I made the switch as soon as I could and haven't missed the annoyances of HS+ one bit. It turned out great for me, I could tell there was a lot of promise in the platform, so now (7 years later?) it seems like I picked a winner. These days I use a combination of CFEclipse and Notepad++, both FOSS. Notepad++ is a great pick-up-and-edit tool. At home I have been using CF Builder 2, it's good. It's really good. I also have IntelliJ IDEA, which is surprisingly advanced for CFML development. In summary, and bringing it back to the thread, try new tools, they are better. They do more things. Force yourself to try it for a couple weeks and see if you can be as efficient at it. nathan strutz [www.dopefly.com] [hi.im/nathanstrutz] [about.me/nathanstrutz] On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Wil Genovese wrote: > > "Sticks" of RAM? Wow that's new tech! My RAM come on individual IC Chips. > I need 8 to get to 64K. > > > > Wil Genovese > Sr. Web Application Developer/ > Systems Administrator > CF Webtools > www.cfwebtools.com > > wilg...@trunkful.com > www.trunkful.com > > On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Gerald Guido wrote: > > > > >>> I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive > > > > I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram > > together. > > > > G! > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew wrote: > > > >> > >> I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, > >> moving > >> the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is > actually > >> a cassette tape. > >> > >> My code is VERY precise. Just saying. > >> > >> Mark Drew > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > "Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff > :)" > > I use it everyday. > > I try other applications, but I always come back. > > J > >>> > >>> Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use > >> DOS > >>> 3 > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345177 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Homesite 5.5
Sadly, I'm so old I've actually done that, lol >>-Original Message- >>From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] >>Sent: 11 June 2011 18:46 >>To: cf-talk >>Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5 >> >> >> >>wow this is all very technical, what is a hard drive ? >>I code by punching holes into a piece of card which is fed into a device >>that reads the holes and performs functions according to the hole >>positions. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345175 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Anyone wanting to know more about the "Hidden Gems" in CFBuilder should watch this preso by Charlie Arehart. http://experts.adobeconnect.com/p51vmyerxvy/?launcher=false&fcsContent=true&pbMode=normal I also miss HomeSite - I started using it back in the 1.5 days (1996) and purchased it from Nick himself. Back then the easter eggs in HS were fun little games and even one that let us shoot Green Dog Logos. Ah, the good o'l days. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 11, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Stephane Vantroyen wrote: > > Something weird I've noticed while reading these posts : I've not read about > CFBuilder, did I (or maybe I'm wrong), but people are talking about Homesite, > dreamweaver, eclipse and related free ides, but not about the one made by > (sold by) Adobe, which is now the main contact point for what CF is about. > > Anyway, I've always worked with homesite and loved it, but there's a moment > changes have to occur (pity because homesite was a really good product, and i > still miss it) because of some strategic moves or commercial decisions. For > my concern, I had to change because I changed my main os (to mac) and had to > find a professional way to work on cf projects. I thus opted for CFBuilder, > and yes the change was long and painful to be honest, but is now rewarded by > functionalities that Homesite do not have (version 2 of CFBuilder is well > worth it now). I certainly do not want to to restart what some could call the > "ides comparison posts" like already took place before on this community > site, just wanted to give my opinion. > > The only thing that matters according to me is : find something that best > suits you and your needs, but do not be reluctant to changes if it becomes a > necessary (i told it before : i still miss my homesite 5.5 ++) > > Stéphane Vantroyen > > >> To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it. >> It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles >> that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it >> won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You >> have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from >> everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo >> CDs Macromedia used to hand out. >> >> -Mike Chabot >> >> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com < >> edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote: >> >>> > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345174 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
There is a lengthy thread on one of the CF LinkedIn groups polling people on what they're using and CFB is well-represented. (I use CFB 2.) On Jun 11, 2011 3:01 PM, "Stephane Vantroyen" wrote: > > Something weird I've noticed while reading these posts : I've not read about CFBuilder, did I (or maybe I'm wrong), but people are talking about Homesite, dreamweaver, eclipse and related free ides, but not about the one made by (sold by) Adobe, which is now the main contact point for what CF is about. > > Anyway, I've always worked with homesite and loved it, but there's a moment changes have to occur (pity because homesite was a really good product, and i still miss it) because of some strategic moves or commercial decisions. For my concern, I had to change because I changed my main os (to mac) and had to find a professional way to work on cf projects. I thus opted for CFBuilder, and yes the change was long and painful to be honest, but is now rewarded by functionalities that Homesite do not have (version 2 of CFBuilder is well worth it now). I certainly do not want to to restart what some could call the "ides comparison posts" like already took place before on this community site, just wanted to give my opinion. > > The only thing that matters according to me is : find something that best suits you and your needs, but do not be reluctant to changes if it becomes a necessary (i told it before : i still miss my homesite 5.5 ++) > > Stéphane Vantroyen > > >>To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it. >>It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles >>that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it >>won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You >>have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from >>everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo >>CDs Macromedia used to hand out. >> >>-Mike Chabot >> >>On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com< >>edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote: >> >>> > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345173 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Something weird I've noticed while reading these posts : I've not read about CFBuilder, did I (or maybe I'm wrong), but people are talking about Homesite, dreamweaver, eclipse and related free ides, but not about the one made by (sold by) Adobe, which is now the main contact point for what CF is about. Anyway, I've always worked with homesite and loved it, but there's a moment changes have to occur (pity because homesite was a really good product, and i still miss it) because of some strategic moves or commercial decisions. For my concern, I had to change because I changed my main os (to mac) and had to find a professional way to work on cf projects. I thus opted for CFBuilder, and yes the change was long and painful to be honest, but is now rewarded by functionalities that Homesite do not have (version 2 of CFBuilder is well worth it now). I certainly do not want to to restart what some could call the "ides comparison posts" like already took place before on this community site, just wanted to give my opinion. The only thing that matters according to me is : find something that best suits you and your needs, but do not be reluctant to changes if it becomes a necessary (i told it before : i still miss my homesite 5.5 ++) Stéphane Vantroyen >To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it. >It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles >that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it >won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You >have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from >everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo >CDs Macromedia used to hand out. > >-Mike Chabot > >On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com < >edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote: > >> ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345172 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I have Homesite+ if that helps On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Mike Chabot wrote: > > To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize > it. > It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles > that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it > won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. > You > have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from > everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo > CDs Macromedia used to hand out. > > -Mike Chabot > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com< > edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote: > > > > > Hello All, > > > > I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers. Does > > anyone one by chance have the media I could download? Can't get it > anymore > > from Macromedia. > > > > Thanks, > > Greg > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345171 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
That's so cool! It's like an Easter egg! Imagine finding a copy of Civ I on your Civ V disk. A copy of Win 3.1 on Win 7 disk. More software companies should do this! On Jun 11, 2011 2:45 PM, "Mike Chabot" wrote: > > To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it. > It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles > that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it > won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You > have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from > everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo > CDs Macromedia used to hand out. > > -Mike Chabot > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com< > edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote: > >> >> Hello All, >> >> I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers. Does >> anyone one by chance have the media I could download? Can't get it anymore >> from Macromedia. >> >> Thanks, >> Greg >> >> > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345170 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
"Sticks" of RAM? Wow that's new tech! My RAM come on individual IC Chips. I need 8 to get to 64K. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Gerald Guido wrote: > >>> I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive > > I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram > together. > > G! > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew wrote: > >> >> I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, >> moving >> the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually >> a cassette tape. >> >> My code is VERY precise. Just saying. >> >> Mark Drew >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons >> wrote: >> >>> "Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :)" I use it everyday. I try other applications, but I always come back. J >>> >>> Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use >> DOS >>> 3 >>> >>> >> >> > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345169 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
The only reason I bust out Dreamweaver is for making tables and UI stuff. For everything else, there's CFEclipse, Subclipse, Apatana. I have yet to find a plugin for Eclipse that does split dev/UI like Dreamweaver can. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog On 6/11/2011 11:08 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I > forced myself to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I > would have given up. > > That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to > move to something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS > 5.5. I'm really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how > well it supports JavaScript. > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Russ Michaels wrote: > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345168 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it. It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo CDs Macromedia used to hand out. -Mike Chabot On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com < edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote: > > Hello All, > > I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers. Does > anyone one by chance have the media I could download? Can't get it anymore > from Macromedia. > > Thanks, > Greg > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345167 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
wow this is all very technical, what is a hard drive ? I code by punching holes into a piece of card which is fed into a device that reads the holes and performs functions according to the hole positions. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mark Drew wrote: > > Dammit, I hate you retro guys... I know your code is faster but the > "writing > code via static electricity" design pattern always trumps mine. Dammit! > > > Mark Drew > > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Gerald Guido >wrote: > > > > > >>I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive > > > > I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram > > together. > > > > G! > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew wrote: > > > > > > > > I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, > > > moving > > > the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is > > actually > > > a cassette tape. > > > > > > My code is VERY precise. Just saying. > > > > > > Mark Drew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >"Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff > > :)" > > > > > > > > > >I use it everyday. > > > > > > > > > >I try other applications, but I always come back. > > > > > > > > > >J > > > > > > > > Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and > use > > > DOS > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345166 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Dammit, I hate you retro guys... I know your code is faster but the "writing code via static electricity" design pattern always trumps mine. Dammit! Mark Drew On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Gerald Guido wrote: > > >>I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive > > I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram > together. > > G! > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew wrote: > > > > > I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, > > moving > > the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is > actually > > a cassette tape. > > > > My code is VERY precise. Just saying. > > > > Mark Drew > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >"Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff > :)" > > > > > > > >I use it everyday. > > > > > > > >I try other applications, but I always come back. > > > > > > > >J > > > > > > Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use > > DOS > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345165 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
>>I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram together. G! On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew wrote: > > I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, > moving > the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually > a cassette tape. > > My code is VERY precise. Just saying. > > Mark Drew > > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons > wrote: > > > > > >"Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :)" > > > > > >I use it everyday. > > > > > >I try other applications, but I always come back. > > > > > >J > > > > Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use > DOS > > 3 > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345164 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, moving the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually a cassette tape. My code is VERY precise. Just saying. Mark Drew On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > >"Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :)" > > > >I use it everyday. > > > >I try other applications, but I always come back. > > > >J > > Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use DOS > 3 > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345163 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
>"Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :)" > >I use it everyday. > >I try other applications, but I always come back. > >J Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use DOS 3 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345162 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
I <3 Homesite! :) On 6/10/2011 7:07 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote: > Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com< > edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers. Does >> anyone one by chance have the media I could download? Can't get it anymore >> from Macromedia. >> >> Thanks, >> Greg >> >> > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345161 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I forced myself to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I would have given up. That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to move to something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it supports JavaScript. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Russ Michaels wrote: > > As with any software it is hard to move away from something you like and are > used to. > It took me ages to move away from homesite and get used to cfeclipse, you do > have to force yourself NOT to use homesite and invest some time learning how > to use the IDE properly. > I did still keep homesite around for quick edits though as it was much > quicker to double click files and have them open in homesite. Although now I > mainly just use Dreamweaver. > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > >> >> "Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :)" >> >> I use it everyday. >> >> I try other applications, but I always come back. >> >> J >> >> >> > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345160 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
As with any software it is hard to move away from something you like and are used to. It took me ages to move away from homesite and get used to cfeclipse, you do have to force yourself NOT to use homesite and invest some time learning how to use the IDE properly. I did still keep homesite around for quick edits though as it was much quicker to double click files and have them open in homesite. Although now I mainly just use Dreamweaver. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :)" > > I use it everyday. > > I try other applications, but I always come back. > > J > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345159 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
"Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :)" I use it everyday. I try other applications, but I always come back. J ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345158 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Homesite 5.5
Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :) On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com < edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote: > > Hello All, > > I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers. Does > anyone one by chance have the media I could download? Can't get it anymore > from Macromedia. > > Thanks, > Greg > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345157 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Homesite 5.5
Hello All, I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers. Does anyone one by chance have the media I could download? Can't get it anymore from Macromedia. Thanks, Greg ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344568 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: secure ftp with HomeSite 5.5
It supports SSL. I have never used it though. Go to the file tab and select: >> Macromedia FTP & RDS >> Add FTP server >> There will be a dialog for "Configure SSL" hth G On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Colman, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know if HomeSite 5.5 supports secure ftp connections? > > Rick Colman > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:305569 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
secure ftp with HomeSite 5.5
Does anyone know if HomeSite 5.5 supports secure ftp connections? Rick Colman ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:305568 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I ""Upgrade"" to something else?
My biggest issue with DW is that it uses it's own HTTP system instead of relying on the OS, like Homesite+ does. This causes major issues with internet proxies that require authentication. There is nowhere to set a username/password for http. This effectively renders RDP dead for me. ..02 Jeff -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I ""Upgrade"" to something else? You know that DW's inbuilt FTP allows you to edit a site directly on the remote server, right? On 3/9/06, Terry Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I seem to try every version of DW as it comes out, but quickly get dizzly looking at all the [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the GUI and go right back to HS+. > Mapping a drive really seems to bog things down and FTP is a pain, as I prefer to develop on the development servers instead of my local PC. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234960 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I ""Upgrade"" to something else?
You know that DW's inbuilt FTP allows you to edit a site directly on the remote server, right? On 3/9/06, Terry Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I seem to try every version of DW as it comes out, but quickly get dizzly > looking at all the [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the GUI and go right back to HS+. > Mapping a drive really seems to bog things down and FTP is a pain, as I > prefer to develop on the development servers instead of my local PC. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234959 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I ""Upgrade"" to something else?
> Not trying to fire off a crazy debate but this seems like a fantastic > editor... it's got all of the keystore shortcuts I need to be really > productive. However, this editor is 3 years old. Any reason I should > use > some other tool? Opinions? Jon I'm going to join the choir and tell you that you should give Eclipse/CFEclipse a run. It really does have everything you'll need, and is getting better all the time. The latest nightly builds have some great new features, most of which will be in a release fairly soon. If you're unsure of how to tackle setting everything up, take a look at my publication, The ACME Guide (http://www.stephencollins.org/acme/). It's free. Steve Collins -- Steve Collins E [EMAIL PROTECTED] W www.stephencollins.org ICQ 1014940 | MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Yahoo trib Google Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Skype trib22 The ACME Guide - Best practice development using Apache - ColdFusion MX - MySQL - Eclipse/CFEclipse www.stephencollins.org/acme/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234921 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
> I hit Ctrl+S when filling out forms within browsers. Lol. I find myself doing the same kinds of things. Also, I hit ctrl+enter to send email messages (in both Outlook and T-Bird), and I always hit that to submit forms. :) - This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234920 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
I am a Window's user and I use Sapien's PrimalScript, and have been since I stopped using HomeSite+ over a year ago. I also have CFE and DW8. Currently I am switching back and forth between CFE and PS on different projects, and I like alot about CFE (great job guys). But I still find myself coming back to PS. It is just lighter and quicker. Great snippet support and intellisense/code completion, auto-backups, etc. I use the enterprise version which has a killer Visual Query Builder and XML Editor in it, support for multisite deployment via ftp. I supports 30 languages including AS2 and it looks like they are gearing up to support Flex 2/AS3. It has full support for ASP.NET, C#, VB etc., so if you are in the BD.NET camp it is a good choice. Some of the best support I have ever seen. Downsides for CF'ers are that it only supports VSS for source control, and the code competion doesn't enumerate tag attributes. Also, it ain't cheap ($350 for the Enterprise version). But it is a great editor for Windows users involved in multiple development environments. 45 day free eval; might be worth your while to check it out. www.sapien.com On 3/9/06, Jon Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not trying to fire off a crazy debate but this seems like a fantastic > editor... it's got all of the keystore shortcuts I need to be really > productive. However, this editor is 3 years old. Any reason I should use > some other tool? Opinions? > > Jon > > > This electronic message transmission contains information from Collegiate > Funding Services, LLC or its subsidiaries or affiliates that may be > confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of > only the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended > recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the > contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received > this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply > e-mail @cfsloans.com immediately and delete this e-mail and any > attachments from your system and any copies you may have made, electronic or > otherwise. > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234916 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
I hit Ctrl+S when filling out forms within browsers. -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else? i hit ctrl+s in my sleep, i swear... im sooo used to it now, all the time that i dream about it :) man, i need to get out sometimes, cant wait for golf season tw ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234913 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
Rick, Do not even mention He3.. pah! ;) we have done a lot of work on CFEclipse especially recently to bring it in line with some of the HS user's expectations but we cant keep everyone happy. I have some plans for functions in CFE that will make HS look like what it is... an old editor. I prefer TextPad rather than HS. We have a browser, we have a couple... in fact we have four if you count the external setup. We 'could' add it like in HS but I I dont know about other people but if you are doing frameworks... well.. I dont know how that could help, you still need to do something like fuseaction=bla or event=bob etc. I have plans for it to figure this out automatically for you in the future as well as CFE providing function insight into CFC's for you... homesite WONT do that .. ok ok.. they will add VTMs. big deal. Anyways.. if you like what you got. keep using it.. but the question was about upgrading... and at the moment I think CFE is only other editor out there that is really focusing on coldfusion 'coders'. anyways... On 9 Mar 2006, at 16:35, Rick Root wrote: > Mark Drew wrote: >> Because its 3 years old is a good reason.. to a level I guess. >> also if you >> are using it for a language (cfml) that is changing and getting new >> features. > > Macromedia released tag updates for Homesite, so that's not really > relevant. > > I still use Homesite 5.5+ too... I tried He3 and didn't like it.. my > experiences with Eclipse from 2-3 years ago turned me off completely > though I haven't tried CFEclipse. Plus I've heard that CFEclipse > doesn't have a "browse" tab like Homesite does, and I do use that from > time to time when I'm working on layouts and such. > > Rick > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234911 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
With CFE how does the CSS work as you type it out? I always liked how DWMX deals with that. I have seen people mention plugins for CSS, so I assume there is one out there that gives you the same effect? I think that is one thing that keeps me away from CFE, not knowing what plug ins to get or not get and being too lazy to research it :) On 3/9/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Munson, Jacob wrote: > >>Oh! I didnt remember HS letting you do that! No I don't think > >>it does let > >>you do that, you have to hit ctrl+s :-) > > > > > > It's good to save often anyway. And with Eclipse's built-in version > > control (the simple version compare stuff), I can't see any reason why > > people wouldn't be hitting save every 5 seconds! :) > > Granted, but sometimes I'm just testing something CSS related or > whatever and I just type it into a blank document and click "Browse".. > > I'm not saving it in those cases because there's no need. > > Rick > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234910 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
Munson, Jacob wrote: >>Oh! I didnt remember HS letting you do that! No I don't think >>it does let >>you do that, you have to hit ctrl+s :-) > > > It's good to save often anyway. And with Eclipse's built-in version > control (the simple version compare stuff), I can't see any reason why > people wouldn't be hitting save every 5 seconds! :) Granted, but sometimes I'm just testing something CSS related or whatever and I just type it into a blank document and click "Browse".. I'm not saving it in those cases because there's no need. Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234909 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
i hit ctrl+s in my sleep, i swear... im sooo used to it now, all the time that i dream about it :) man, i need to get out sometimes, cant wait for golf season tw On 3/9/06, Munson, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh! I didnt remember HS letting you do that! No I don't think > > it does let > > you do that, you have to hit ctrl+s :-) > > It's good to save often anyway. And with Eclipse's built-in version > control (the simple version compare stuff), I can't see any reason why > people wouldn't be hitting save every 5 seconds! :) > > > --- > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any > reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission > in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in > its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234907 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I ""Upgrade"" to something else?
Yes I used the latest version of CFE. It's not that there is a bug, it's just not as robust as Homesite. I realize that Homesite hasn't released a new version in years and I would like to use CFE, I just don't like the color support. Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234903 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
> Oh! I didnt remember HS letting you do that! No I don't think > it does let > you do that, you have to hit ctrl+s :-) It's good to save often anyway. And with Eclipse's built-in version control (the simple version compare stuff), I can't see any reason why people wouldn't be hitting save every 5 seconds! :) --- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234902 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
I mean CFE does not let you browse to unsaved HTML. On 3/9/06, Michael Traher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh! I didnt remember HS letting you do that! No I don't think it does let > you do that, you have to hit ctrl+s :-) > > On 3/9/06, Rick Root < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Michael Traher wrote: > > > > > > Its really no different since in HS+ you had to tell it the path to > > browse > > > to for a file - I forget the details now but you dedicated HS'ers will > > know > > > what I'm referring to! CFE now lets you browse to the current page in > > the > > > browser pane (within the IDE) or opens an external browser window. You > > can > > > configure it to use your default browser or Firefox or IE as required. > > > > can I browse HTML code that I've typed in without saving it to a file > > like I can in HS? > > > > Rick > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234892 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
Oh! I didnt remember HS letting you do that! No I don't think it does let you do that, you have to hit ctrl+s :-) On 3/9/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michael Traher wrote: > > > > Its really no different since in HS+ you had to tell it the path to > browse > > to for a file - I forget the details now but you dedicated HS'ers will > know > > what I'm referring to! CFE now lets you browse to the current page in > the > > browser pane (within the IDE) or opens an external browser window. You > can > > configure it to use your default browser or Firefox or IE as required. > > can I browse HTML code that I've typed in without saving it to a file > like I can in HS? > > Rick > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234891 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
Michael Traher wrote: > > Its really no different since in HS+ you had to tell it the path to browse > to for a file - I forget the details now but you dedicated HS'ers will know > what I'm referring to! CFE now lets you browse to the current page in the > browser pane (within the IDE) or opens an external browser window. You can > configure it to use your default browser or Firefox or IE as required. can I browse HTML code that I've typed in without saving it to a file like I can in HS? Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234887 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I ""Upgrade"" to something else?
Have you checked the latest version of CFE with the latest version of eclipse? There are some minor bugs on colouring here and there, but the advantages outweigh these kind of cosmetic things IMHO, and CFE is improving all the time, when was the last new feature added to HS+? :-) On 3/9/06, Robert Everland III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark, > > The one thing that has really kept me from using CFE is that the color > coding is not as robust as Homesite. Are you working on making the color > coding a bit more robust? > > > > Bob > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234873 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I ""Upgrade"" to something else?
Mark, The one thing that has really kept me from using CFE is that the color coding is not as robust as Homesite. Are you working on making the color coding a bit more robust? Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234862 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
On 3/9/06, Munson, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Plus I've heard that CFEclipse > > doesn't have a "browse" tab like Homesite does, and I do use > > that from > > time to time when I'm working on layouts and such. > > CFE does have a built-in browser, but I don't think it's a slick as in > HomeSite. It's been a while since I used HS, but if I remember right > you can just click browse, and the current file shows up. In CFE it's > more like a standard web browser. You can view the file you're editing, > but I don't think it's as automatic. You'd have to browse to it like in > a normal web browser. However, you /can/ set a homepage for each > project, which makes things a bit faster. Its really no different since in HS+ you had to tell it the path to browse to for a file - I forget the details now but you dedicated HS'ers will know what I'm referring to! CFE now lets you browse to the current page in the browser pane (within the IDE) or opens an external browser window. You can configure it to use your default browser or Firefox or IE as required. -- Mike T Blog http://www.socialpoints.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234857 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
> Plus I've heard that CFEclipse > doesn't have a "browse" tab like Homesite does, and I do use > that from > time to time when I'm working on layouts and such. CFE does have a built-in browser, but I don't think it's a slick as in HomeSite. It's been a while since I used HS, but if I remember right you can just click browse, and the current file shows up. In CFE it's more like a standard web browser. You can view the file you're editing, but I don't think it's as automatic. You'd have to browse to it like in a normal web browser. However, you /can/ set a homepage for each project, which makes things a bit faster. --- [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234839 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
Mark Drew wrote: > Because its 3 years old is a good reason.. to a level I guess. also if you > are using it for a language (cfml) that is changing and getting new > features. Macromedia released tag updates for Homesite, so that's not really relevant. I still use Homesite 5.5+ too... I tried He3 and didn't like it.. my experiences with Eclipse from 2-3 years ago turned me off completely though I haven't tried CFEclipse. Plus I've heard that CFEclipse doesn't have a "browse" tab like Homesite does, and I do use that from time to time when I'm working on layouts and such. Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234835 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
> Not trying to fire off a crazy debate but this seems like a fantastic > editor... it's got all of the keystore shortcuts I need to be really > productive. However, this editor is 3 years old. Any reason I > should use > some other tool? Opinions? I've read all the other posts, and the only thing I'll add is some insight on HS's future. Before I get to that, I'll say that I'm a CFE user, mainly because I can use it to also edit XML, Perl, CSS, and just about anything else I'll need in the future. Having everything in one IDE is just awesome! Last year at CFUnited I asked Ben Forta about Macromedia's plans for HomeSite. He said they will continue to support it with language upgrades, when new versions of CF come out, but they won't continue to put out feature releases. I have to give the caveat that I don't believe Ben was speaking for Macromedia, and also Adobe is now in charge. But I have no reason not to think the above statement is still true, considering all the resources Adobe is putting into CFE (also, Flex is now an Eclipsed based IDE). That said, I don't see why you couldn't stay with HS for a long time, if you so desire. At least until CFE and/or DW come out with some must have features that you don't get with HS. Personally, CFE already has that must have feature, just by being an Eclipse plugin. :) - [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234829 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
There are certain features that we just get used to having and use all the time. Recently I started using the Synchronize feature in DWMX and DW8 due to no source control here and that one feature I am growing fond of. Although I am sure I could find something to get the same result with another IDE. It took me a LONG time to get over the no ctrl-y to delete a line in DWMX like I had in HS+ and still have in Toad to this day. Matter of fact, again now I am annoyed it is missing :) On 3/9/06, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I find interesting after reading tons of these messages is that > many people may not switch editors just because of one, or two, little > features to which they have grown accustomed. > > It doesn't take a whole bunch of features to want to stay, but it takes > quite a few to make a switch. > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234826 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I ""Upgrade"" to something else?
I seem to try every version of DW as it comes out, but quickly get dizzly looking at all the [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the GUI and go right back to HS+. I have switched over to CFEclipse for after-hour work, which I am really starting to like, but currently use HS+ for my 9-5 job. The only reason I still use HS+ for work is that I work from home in Jacksonville and all my development is in San Diego. I use a cable modem and VPN to access the network and rely heavily on RDS, which works very nice in HS+ with VPN. Mapping a drive really seems to bog things down and FTP is a pain, as I prefer to develop on the development servers instead of my local PC. Now, once RDS is integrated with CFEclipse... I'll switch over in a heart-beat! Terry > Not trying to fire off a crazy debate but this seems like a fantastic > editor... it's got all of the keystore shortcuts I need to be really > productive. However, this editor is 3 years old. Any reason I should > use > some other tool? Opinions? > > Jon ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234825 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
On 3/9/06, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I find interesting after reading tons of these messages is that > many people may not switch editors just because of one, or two, little > features to which they have grown accustomed. Which is very annoying if you are developing CFE since you get responses such as "I wont switch until you make it work just like my old editor" Since I am not re-building HomeSite its a bit of a bummer. It doesn't take a whole bunch of features to want to stay, but it takes > quite a few to make a switch. Which is what keeps me busy, adding as many new features that are USEFUL to developers. MD ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234824 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
If it works for you and you never get to some point where you ask yourself why does it not have feature XYZ then I say just stay with it. About 1-2 years ago I forced myself to switch from Homesite/CFStudio to DWMX. The reason I forced myself to do it was because I saw that a lot of people were using it and did not want to get hired onto some contract where that was the defined IDE to use but know nothing about it. For a long time I was really annoyed by and to this day I miss some of those shortcut keys I knew all too well in HS. However after some time with the product and learning some of the features in it, I have no problems with it and can not remember the last time I fired up HS+ to do something. I like some of the new features introduced in DW8, not sure if I'd pay for the upgrade just for those features but luckily I do not have to purchase the software here(the company does that). I have tried CFE a few times and just can not see what the big deal about it is. I think I will end up forcing myself to switch to CFE sometime this year and for the same reasons I forced myself to DWMX. Although that really depends on how the battle against .NET pans out here since CF might be retired here. On 3/9/06, Jon Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not trying to fire off a crazy debate but this seems like a fantastic > editor... it's got all of the keystore shortcuts I need to be really > productive. However, this editor is 3 years old. Any reason I should use > some other tool? Opinions? > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234823 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
What I find interesting after reading tons of these messages is that many people may not switch editors just because of one, or two, little features to which they have grown accustomed. It doesn't take a whole bunch of features to want to stay, but it takes quite a few to make a switch. M!ke -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else? > > i cannot drag an image to > the code view, and have dw8 populate the height/width parameters like > HS+ does, and for that reason alone ill not switch. i have requested > that feature 1 times to no avail. I thought to make you all happy I added this ability to CFEclipse to drag images from a project onto a document and it gives you the image width and height (was actually quite easy, only a couple of lines of code) but it can take some time if you have a large image You would have only needed to ask me once BTW ;) MD ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234819 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
Hmmm. I have 1GB RAM and have not seen the grayed-out problem. I have also opened Flash 8 and FW 8 at the same time just to see the memory usage. However, I didn't really do any work that would have sucked up more memory. It is a RAM pig, I can say that. I have been using TopStyle frequently just to play with it again. On opening, it only takes < 4MB of memory. After a few files, it gets between 10-20MB. Not too bad. M!ke -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else? > From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My main gripe with > DW is that it really can screw up your XML. My main gripe with DW 8 is that is constantly tells me I am low on memory and the buttons, toolbars, and gutters get all greyed out... images on the toolbars, buttons, and gutters turn to an "X"... this despite the fact that nothing else is really open or consuming a lot of resources... oh yeah, and I have 2 GBs of RAM in my laptop so I don't get it. Other than that I alternate between DW8 and CFE. Tango ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234816 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: I still use HomeSite+ 5.5 - Should I "Upgrade" to something else?
> > i cannot drag an image to > the code view, and have dw8 populate the height/width > parameters like HS+ does, and for that reason alone > ill not switch. i have requested that feature 1 times > to no avail. I thought to make you all happy I added this ability to CFEclipse to drag images from a project onto a document and it gives you the image width and height (was actually quite easy, only a couple of lines of code) but it can take some time if you have a large image You would have only needed to ask me once BTW ;) MD ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234815 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
