how to enter privileged mode?

[Frank Jordan]

i just set "enable secret" on my router,no "enable password".
After i do "no enable secret "command ,i couldn't enter privileged  mode .


Router>en
% No password set
Router>

I didn't save the config,so i think i could restart router to come back,
but now many people are using network ,i have to wait until midnight.

Is there any other method ?

thanks.



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Collisions on Ethernet Lan

[cisco]

Hi,
   HOw do I reduce the collisions on the ethernet 
LAN. 
I am using a cisco 2600 router with an ethernet 
port
My switch is CATALYST 1900 series.

Please help me.

regards
Raj

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BGP/OSPF issue

[Gabriel Nickel]

Hi folks,
we got a problem involving BGP and OSPF 
here. Lets say we are an ISP (AS 1) with two routers (Router1, Router2)in 
different cities. They are both running OSPF (and IBGP) to exchange intra-AS 
routing information. Router2 is connected via BGP to an upstream provider (AS 
2). Router1 has static entries for a large customer network (downstream). All 
operations are running well but if we traceroute from our Router 2 to the 
customer network the packets dont take the path via Router 1 but via our 
upstream provider (AS 2) which is suboptimal and not desirable. From my 
understanding the packets chose this path because of the eBGP administrative 
distance (20). Do we have to decrease the OSPF distance to >20? In addition 
static routing is not desirable (there would be too many networks to 
announce).
Any input would be much 
appreciated,
 
Gabriel
 

Urgent: ISDN timer

[md. nazri]

 


hi all,While doing troubleshooting on 3810 router, I got 
this output when issue sh proc cpu command:
BKRB027RT120#sh proc cpuCPU utilization for five seconds: 99%/23%; one minute: 99%; five 
minutes: 99% PID  Runtime(ms)  Invoked  
uSecs    5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY 
Process   1   38279   
1093597 35   0.00%  0.00%  
0.00%   0 Load Meter   
2 
168   110   1527   
0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 PPP 
auth  PID  
Runtime(ms)  Invoked  uSecs    5Sec   
1Min   5Min TTY Process  46  
152197   5016983 30   0.00%  
0.00%  0.00%   0 TDSM_PERIODIC_TA  
47   
0 
2  0   0.00%  0.00%  
0.00%   0 IP VOICE INPUT  
48   
0 
2  0   0.00%  0.00%  
0.00%   0 IP VOICE OUTPUT  
49   
4 2   2000   
0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 ISDN_CSM  50    74007133  19140060   
3866  74.72% 75.43% 75.20%   0 ISDN Timer  
51   
0 
1  0   0.00%  0.00%  
0.00%   0 Time Range Proce  
53   
4 2   2000   
0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 CC-API_VCM 
 
I believe the cpu is dying by looking at the 
utilization for 5sec. I'm querious what does it mean by ISDN Timer which took 
most of the cpu process..cld anybody pls explain...
 
when checking the router config, I came across this 
input in global config
 
isdn switch-type 
basic-net3call-history-mib retain-timer 500
 
once again I need anybody to xplain what the 2nd 
command's for. Is this relate to ISDN Timer process..?
 
thanx in advance
 
TQ
 
rgds
nazri
 

Urgent: ISDN timer

[md. nazri]

hi all,While doing troubleshooting on 3810 
router, I got this output when issue sh proc cpu 
command:
BKRB027RT120#sh proc cpuCPU utilization for five seconds: 99%/23%; one minute: 99%; five 
minutes: 99% PID  Runtime(ms)  Invoked  
uSecs    5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY 
Process   1   38279   
1093597 35   0.00%  0.00%  
0.00%   0 Load Meter   
2 
168   110   1527   
0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 PPP 
auth  PID  
Runtime(ms)  Invoked  uSecs    5Sec   
1Min   5Min TTY Process  46  
152197   5016983 30   0.00%  
0.00%  0.00%   0 TDSM_PERIODIC_TA  
47   
0 
2  0   0.00%  0.00%  
0.00%   0 IP VOICE INPUT  
48   
0 
2  0   0.00%  0.00%  
0.00%   0 IP VOICE OUTPUT  
49   
4 2   2000   
0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 ISDN_CSM  50    74007133  19140060   
3866  74.72% 75.43% 75.20%   0 ISDN Timer  
51   
0 
1  0   0.00%  0.00%  
0.00%   0 Time Range Proce  
53   
4 2   2000   
0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 CC-API_VCM 
 
I believe the cpu is dying by looking at the 
utilization for 5sec. I'm querious what does it mean by ISDN Timer which took 
most of the cpu process..cld anybody pls explain...
 
when checking the router config, I came across this 
input in global config
 
isdn switch-type 
basic-net3call-history-mib retain-timer 500
 
once again I need anybody to xplain what the 2nd 
command's for. Is this relate to ISDN Timer process..?
 
thanx in advance
 
TQ
 
rgds
nazri
 

RE: VLAN's

[Jeroen Timmer]

Only when you use a 4000 switch in your setup, then you cant use ISL
encapsulation, cause it doesn't understand it.
With a 4000 switch you'll need to go with dot1q encapsulation.

JT

-Original Message-
From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VLAN's


You can't just make a switch port a member of all the VLAN's and hang a 
router off it to route traffic between VLAN's.

The router and switch must have a way to exchange VLAN information in order 
for you to route between VLAN's. You need to connect the router on a trunk 
link. This link must be a Fast Ethernet link, and configured for ISL 
trunking.

Then you configure the router with subinterfaces for each VLAN and use ISL 
encapsulation.

Configs should be readily available on CCO.

Dale
[=`)

>From: "sujar khmar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "sujar khmar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: VLAN's
>Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:56:29 -0400
>
>Group,
> I have a catalyst 3524 switch in my practice lab set up with four 
>vlans
>(1-4).  One port is a member  of all vlans and that is the router port.  In
>what I have learned you should be able to be a node on vlan 2 and be able 
>to
>go out the vlan2 port on the switch to the router and back to the vlan 4
>port (or any other vlan for that matter)  and reach a node on vlan 4.  I
>said should be able to because it doesn't work that way right now for me.  
>I
>can see every node on the network except the nodes on vlan 1, 3-4.  I have
>deduced that it isn't being routed back into the appropriate port.  All
>these networks are on the same subnet, but since it's not a 5000 so I can't
>assign a different subnet.
> Am I way off base here?  My question really is how can I route vlan 1
>back to vlan 2 via one ethernet port on the router back to the other vlans.
>
>
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Re: [RE: permanent ISDN connection]

[Ravi Kumar]

"Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am doing this to an ISP.  I have turned up NTP which sends an
"interesting" packet every 60 seconds.  This has worked fairly well for me
and the load imposed on the router and circuit is minimal.
Nathan Miller

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Subject: permanent ISDN connection


quick question - We're setting up a temp. ISDN connection and the powers 
that be want a PERMANENT (not DDR) connection on a Cisco 2500 (ios 11.2)

I've got a BRI and Dialer setup (which also aren't working, but that's 
another story) - is there a default - like Dialer idle-timeout 0 that will 
keep an ISDN connection up in a permanent state for a few weeks?

I know it doesn't make sense, but they're paying for it, so no skin off my 
nose.

CA
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cisco questions?

[Yee, Jason]

Anyone got any comments and views on the following question :


You have just completed an upgrade to Cisco IOS Version 12.0 , access
control lists work exactly how you had them setup prior to the upgrade. You
now add two additional access-lists using the new functionality of the 12.0
operating system, you then are forced to perform a downgrade of the IOS
version back to the previous version. What happens to the new Access list
entries ?



Jason

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RE: Activation Key

[Gils]

Hi,

  Just login first.
http://www.cisco.com/kobayashi/sw-center/internet/pix-56bit-license-request.
shtm


GIL
CCNA/CCDA

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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 8:29 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Activation Key


Can somebody tell me how to get an activation key for VPN-Des so I can set
up my PIX with VPN.  I tried [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  but that was 2 days ago and still haven't
gotten a reply.

Thanks,
Brian

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RE: question

[Dusty Harper]

Title: RE: question






It is a packet sent usually right before an IPX network is 'legitimately' brought offline.  This packet sets all services offered through the router (or machine) as unreachable. The other routers and listening SAP agents see this packet and update accordingly.  

Dusty 


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Subject: question



hi, anyone knows what is the purpose of a poison sap?



Jason


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RE: Collisions on Ethernet Lan

[Suresh Uniyal]

Go for VLAN.

-SU

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> To:   Groupstudy Cisco
> Subject:  Collisions on Ethernet Lan
> 
> Hi,
>HOw do I reduce the collisions on the ethernet 
> LAN. 
> I am using a cisco 2600 router with an ethernet 
> port
> My switch is CATALYST 1900 series.
> 
> Please help me.
> 
> regards
> Raj
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RE: question

[Yee, Jason]

thank you , I think the meaning is just like route posioning 
 
anyway are you from microsoft? Does microsoft staff  go for cisco
certifications?
 
 
Jason

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Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:57 PM
To: Yee, Jason; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: question



It is a packet sent usually right before an IPX network is 'legitimately'
brought offline.  This packet sets all services offered through the router
(or machine) as unreachable. The other routers and listening SAP agents see
this packet and update accordingly.  

Dusty 

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Subject: question 


hi, anyone knows what is the purpose of a poison sap? 


Jason 

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RE: Help on Frame-relay Traffic-shaping command

[Bosio Stefano]

comment inline

Stefano

>Original Message-
>From: myccie Lian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: mercoledì 30 agosto 2000 7.22
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Help on Frame-relay Traffic-shaping command
>
>
>Hi,
>I have studied  following command at cisco website but I still have problem

>to understand how the parameters work.
>If you can give me some example of those command, I will really appreciate 
>that.
>
>
>1.
>Frame-relay traffic-rate [bit-rate [burst-size][excess-burst-size]]
>frame-relay traffic-rate 32000  64000 16000
>look like 32000 is CIR. what about 64000 and 16000.
>Is there any different to use "frame-relay cir" command ?
>
---S---
Frame-relay traffic-rate [bit-rate [burst-size][excess-burst-size]]
don't exist the command is
traffic-shape rate bit-rate [burst-size [excess-burst-size]] 

and is Generic Trafic Shaping (GTS)not frame relay specific

in the example frame-relay traffic-rate 32000  64000 16000
32000 is the CIR
64000 is the Committed burst=CIR*Tc=32000*2=64000
Tc - committed rate measurement interval
16000 is the Excess burst (usually Eb=port speed - CIR)
---
>
>
>2.
>frame-relay traffic-rate 1544000
>frame-relay adaptive 64000
>Documentation tell me CIR is 64000 and access rate is 1544000. What is the 
>different with the command " frame-relay traffic-rate 32000 64000 16000" ?
>
S---
frame-relay traffic-rate average [peak]
Define the traffic rate for the map class.
average=CIR
[peak]=the max rate (CIR+EIR) if omitted is the port speed

in your example 1544000 is the CIR (suppose CIR=port speed don't need
command)

frame-relay adaptive-shaping {becn|foresight}
depending on the BECN recieved 64000 is the rate to which traffic shaping
will adapt

traffic-rate 32000 64000 16000
=
frame-relay traffic-rate 32000 48000

>
>3.
>frame-relay cir 64000
>frame-relay mincir 64000
>Is that these two command have any relationship with "frame-relay traffic-
>rate" ?
>
S--
This command replaces "frame-relay traffic-rate" and have the same meaning
frame-relay traffic-rate 32000 48000
=
frame-relay cir 32000
frame-relay bc 32000
frame-relay be 16000
--
>
>
>4.
>If I want to get at least 16k of bandwidth but not more than 32k at serial
>link s0, how can I use the traffic-shaping command.
>
S---
in a map class use 

frame-relay traffic-rate 16000 32000
=
frame-relay cir 16000
frame-relay bc 16000
frame-relay be 16000
-

hope this help.
Correct me if i'm wrong

>Thanks for your help.
>
>
>Gerry Lian 

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Difference in Broadcast Domain and Collision Domain......

[Suresh Uniyal]

Hi all,

How we r going to differentiate between a broadcast domain and a collision
domain.

Can we co-relate this to a router and a switch or a bridge.

-SU

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RE: BGP/OSPF issue

[Atif Awan]

I 
think you can use the BGP backdoor option to achieve this.
 -Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gabriel 
NickelSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 12:02 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: BGP/OSPF issue

  Hi folks,
  we got a problem involving BGP and OSPF 
  here. Lets say we are an ISP (AS 1) with two routers (Router1, Router2)in 
  different cities. They are both running OSPF (and IBGP) to exchange intra-AS 
  routing information. Router2 is connected via BGP to an upstream provider (AS 
  2). Router1 has static entries for a large customer network (downstream). All 
  operations are running well but if we traceroute from our Router 2 to the 
  customer network the packets dont take the path via Router 1 but via our 
  upstream provider (AS 2) which is suboptimal and not desirable. From my 
  understanding the packets chose this path because of the eBGP administrative 
  distance (20). Do we have to decrease the OSPF distance to >20? In addition 
  static routing is not desirable (there would be too many networks to 
  announce).
  Any input would be much 
  appreciated,
   
  Gabriel
   

UDP and Fragmentation

[PORTER Tara]

Hello everybody,
I am in the process of studying for my CCIE written and I came across a question that 
I can not find an answer to.  It is about UDP
and fragmentation.  What happens when UDP packets are fragmented? Do the packets have 
a sequence number in thier header and does
each segment have a header?

If anybody has an idea of where I can find the anser to that question, it would be 
really appreciated.  I've checked the Cisco CD
and numerous books that I have, but I can't seem to find it.  I know the concept of 
fragmentation, ie, once a packet is fragmented
it doesn't get reassembled untill the end station.  If one fragment is lost, the whole 
thing must be sent again.  In TCP, a packet
is fragmented and a header is put on each packet with a seq # to help the end device.  
But what about for UDP?  Is there any
difference?

Regards,
Tara Porter

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Re: Fwd: Re: Cable Modem problems

[tdas]

Coulsd u just try to reinstall the OS (win-98)..might b some prob with
the TCP/IP files... just give it a shot..or the problem might be with the
DHCP server at your headend..Pls check out...
Raju

>From: "Tapas Das" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Fwd: Re: Cable Modem problems
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:46:17 IST
>
>
>
>
>From: ainsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: ainsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Cable Modem problems
>Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:39:25 -0400
>
>If its cablevision in NY give me a holla
>
>"Tretter, Paul" wrote:
>
> > I have a cable provider that has major problems all the time.
>The
> > problem is that they occasionally loose the network connectivity.  They
> > always have us reinitialize the cable modem and get assigned an ip
>address
> > and gateway address.  Everything works for about 2 minutes and then we
>have
> > to do it all again.  The tail fin 3com modem show proper lights.
>However, I
> > can ping my own address but no longer the gateway everytime.  I then
>have to
> > reinitialize (restart) the cable modem and release/renew my dhcp
address
>to
> > get it working again.  Anyone have a clue. why this is.
> >
> > Paul
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just testing

[Ed Crowe]

just testing


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Re: Difference in Broadcast Domain and Collision Domain......

[Bharat Suneja]

Yes we can Suresh.

Broadcast Domains are the ones between two routers - Routers segment
broadcast domains. Switches segment collission domains. Segmentation with
switches will reduce collissions but broadcasts will still be forwarded out
all ports.

Bharat Suneja


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> domain.
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RE: Urgent: ISDN timer

[McCallum, Robert]

Below 
is a description of what the command does.  It is basically an accounting 
feature.  If you don't want any accounting on voice calls then turn it 
off.
 
CISCO-CALL-HISTORY-MIB-V1SMI.my    
The Cisco Call History MIB, which describes 
and stores     the call information of the 
Cisco device for accounting    
purposes. 
 
Hope 
this helps

  -Original Message-From: md. nazri 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 30 August 2000 07:46To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Urgent: ISDN 
timer
   
  
  
  hi all,While doing troubleshooting on 3810 router, I got 
  this output when issue sh proc cpu command:
  BKRB027RT120#sh proc cpuCPU utilization for five seconds: 99%/23%; one minute: 99%; five 
  minutes: 99% PID  Runtime(ms)  Invoked  
  uSecs    5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY 
  Process   1   
  38279   1093597 35   0.00%  
  0.00%  0.00%   0 Load Meter   
  2 
  168   110   1527   
  0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 PPP 
  auth  PID  
  Runtime(ms)  Invoked  uSecs    5Sec   
  1Min   5Min TTY Process  46  
  152197   5016983 30   0.00%  
  0.00%  0.00%   0 TDSM_PERIODIC_TA  
  47   
  0 
  2  0   0.00%  0.00%  
  0.00%   0 IP VOICE INPUT  
  48   
  0 
  2  0   0.00%  0.00%  
  0.00%   0 IP VOICE OUTPUT  
  49   
  4 2   
  2000   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 
  ISDN_CSM  50    74007133  
  19140060   3866  74.72% 75.43% 75.20%   0 ISDN 
  Timer  
  51   
  0 
  1  0   0.00%  0.00%  
  0.00%   0 Time Range Proce  
  53   
  4 2   
  2000   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 
  CC-API_VCM 
   
  I believe the cpu is dying by looking at the 
  utilization for 5sec. I'm querious what does it mean by ISDN Timer which took 
  most of the cpu process..cld anybody pls explain...
   
  when checking the router config, I came across 
  this input in global config
   
  isdn switch-type 
  basic-net3call-history-mib retain-timer 500
   
  once again I need anybody to xplain what the 2nd 
  command's for. Is this relate to ISDN Timer process..?
   
  thanx in advance
   
  TQ
   
  rgds
  nazri
   

why the router require username now?? related to TACACS+ issue?

[Sim, CT (Chee Tong)]

Hi.. Dear all,

May I know why my router require the username and password now, previouly
when I telnet to the router, I just need to type the user mode password

For your information, I think we are using the Security server to control
access to all the router, my security server administrator just created a
TACACS+ account for me and ask me to input my password.  After a few days, I
found the router require username from me after I telnet into it, then I
type in my TACACS+ username and password , it guide me to the usermode.  and
I found if I change the TACACS+ password in the security server, my router
password will be changed accordingly.

My question 
1)where is the router's usermode password now? since that I log in using
TACACS+ password?
2)Where I change the TACACS+ password in the security server then the
TACACS+ for the router will be changed accordingly, how the the two things
(Security Server and Router) link with each other
3)Can anyone tell me the whole picture of that

Tong



 

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RE: UDP and Fragmentation

[Atif Awan]

Actually fragmentation is a layer 3 issue. IP packets encapsulate both UDP
and TCP and it is the IP datagram that can get fragmented. Thats why they
have the  fragmentation offset and identification fields in the IP header;
to take care of the fragmented packets.

TCP sequence numbers add a touch of reiliability to the TCP protocol by
ensuring that the TCP segments are arrived in order. However, UDP is not
reliable as it does not have any sequence numbers so if UDP segments do come
out of order it is the responsibility of a higher layer to point that out.

In short i think you are getting confused between segmentation and
fragmentation. Segmentation occurs at layer 4 while fragmentation occurs at
layer 3. IP handles all the fragmentation issues so be it TCP or UDP
encapsulated in IP fragmentation doesnt care for that matter.

Hope this clears things up.

Regards
Atif

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PORTER Tara
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: UDP and Fragmentation


Hello everybody,
I am in the process of studying for my CCIE written and I came across a
question that I can not find an answer to.  It is about UDP
and fragmentation.  What happens when UDP packets are fragmented? Do the
packets have a sequence number in thier header and does
each segment have a header?

If anybody has an idea of where I can find the anser to that question, it
would be really appreciated.  I've checked the Cisco CD
and numerous books that I have, but I can't seem to find it.  I know the
concept of fragmentation, ie, once a packet is fragmented
it doesn't get reassembled untill the end station.  If one fragment is lost,
the whole thing must be sent again.  In TCP, a packet
is fragmented and a header is put on each packet with a seq # to help the
end device.  But what about for UDP?  Is there any
difference?

Regards,
Tara Porter

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TACACS SERVER SOFTWARE

[cisco]

Hi,
  Where can I get TACACS SErver software free on 
the net.
Thanks
Regards
Raj

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qn on ospf

[Yee, Jason]

hi, anyone can help with this :


Router r1 uses a subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and sits on a boundary of area 0
and area 1 based on the sample router configuration :


Router ospf 76
network 145.12.32.0 0.0.15.255 area 1
network 145.12.96.0 0.0.15.255 area 0
Area 0 range 145.12.96.0 255.255.224.0
Area 1 range 145.12.32.0 255.255.224.0

Identify the true statements

An interface on this router with the addr 145.12.32.124 is in area 1
All networks within the range 145.12.64.0 to 145.12.95.0 will be summarized
from area 0 into area 1
All networks within the range 145.12.32.0 to 145.12.63.0 will be summarized
from area 1 into area 0
Area 0 can act as a stub or transit area for routes including networks in
the range 145.12.96.0 to 255.255.224.0
The effect of the 4th line is reduce the number of route table entries


thanks


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RE: qn on ospf

[Andrew Larkins]

>From what I have read, I believe that area 0 can not be a stub

Regards

Andrew

-Original Message-
From: Yee, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 August 2000 11:39
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: qn on ospf


hi, anyone can help with this :


Router r1 uses a subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and sits on a boundary of area 0
and area 1 based on the sample router configuration :


Router ospf 76
network 145.12.32.0 0.0.15.255 area 1
network 145.12.96.0 0.0.15.255 area 0
Area 0 range 145.12.96.0 255.255.224.0
Area 1 range 145.12.32.0 255.255.224.0

Identify the true statements

An interface on this router with the addr 145.12.32.124 is in area 1
All networks within the range 145.12.64.0 to 145.12.95.0 will be summarized
from area 0 into area 1
All networks within the range 145.12.32.0 to 145.12.63.0 will be summarized
from area 1 into area 0
Area 0 can act as a stub or transit area for routes including networks in
the range 145.12.96.0 to 255.255.224.0
The effect of the 4th line is reduce the number of route table entries


thanks


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MRTG and OID's

[Jeroen Timmer]

Hello,

I got a situation for ya'll :)


On a 4500 router we have a PRI connected. We use this line for remote
control for custumors on different locations.

Now. A lot of times we get calls from our telecom provider that some lines
to custumors are open for mare than a couple of days. We haven't got a tool
that monitors those lines for us.

My idea is to use MRTG for that. Via MRTG and a specific oid number, I
thought I would be able to see the uptime of some of the channels of our
PRI. Well .. the problem is that I couldn't find any OID that'll work with
MRTG or the 4500 router.

My question: Is there an OID for this matter, or do I run a script wich
output I use for MRTG ?


Thnx,

JT

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RE: qn on ospf

[Gils]

I agree with you, as far as I know area 0 is the backbone area and can not
be configured as a stub area.

GIL
CCNA/CCDA

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From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 12:13 PM
To: Yee, Jason; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: qn on ospf


>From what I have read, I believe that area 0 can not be a stub

Regards

Andrew

-Original Message-
From: Yee, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 August 2000 11:39
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: qn on ospf


hi, anyone can help with this :


Router r1 uses a subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and sits on a boundary of area 0
and area 1 based on the sample router configuration :


Router ospf 76
network 145.12.32.0 0.0.15.255 area 1
network 145.12.96.0 0.0.15.255 area 0
Area 0 range 145.12.96.0 255.255.224.0
Area 1 range 145.12.32.0 255.255.224.0

Identify the true statements

An interface on this router with the addr 145.12.32.124 is in area 1
All networks within the range 145.12.64.0 to 145.12.95.0 will be summarized
from area 0 into area 1
All networks within the range 145.12.32.0 to 145.12.63.0 will be summarized
from area 1 into area 0
Area 0 can act as a stub or transit area for routes including networks in
the range 145.12.96.0 to 255.255.224.0
The effect of the 4th line is reduce the number of route table entries


thanks


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RE: MRTG and OID's

[Greene, Patrick]

Title: RE: MRTG and OID's





Jeroen,
You need to get the Cisco MIB's for the the 4500.  Addtionally you may need to get the ISDN MIB RFC 2127.  If you need physical interface information for PRI's you may need the DS1/E1 MIB.

Once you geet these MIB's you should be able to find the OID values you are looking for.


Patrick Greene


-Original Message-
From: Jeroen Timmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 4:51 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: MRTG and OID's



Hello,


I got a situation for ya'll :)



On a 4500 router we have a PRI connected. We use this line for remote
control for custumors on different locations.


Now. A lot of times we get calls from our telecom provider that some lines
to custumors are open for mare than a couple of days. We haven't got a tool
that monitors those lines for us.


My idea is to use MRTG for that. Via MRTG and a specific oid number, I
thought I would be able to see the uptime of some of the channels of our
PRI. Well .. the problem is that I couldn't find any OID that'll work with
MRTG or the 4500 router.


My question: Is there an OID for this matter, or do I run a script wich
output I use for MRTG ?



Thnx,


JT


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RE: MRTG and OID's

[Williamson, Paul]

I don't think you're fixing the real problem. 
You should configure the dialer-lists so that only interesting traffic is
allowed to bring up the isdn line and keep it up.

If you fix this then you won't need mrtg.

-Original Message-
From: Jeroen Timmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:51 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: MRTG and OID's


Hello,

I got a situation for ya'll :)


On a 4500 router we have a PRI connected. We use this line for remote
control for custumors on different locations.

Now. A lot of times we get calls from our telecom provider that some lines
to custumors are open for mare than a couple of days. We haven't got a tool
that monitors those lines for us.

My idea is to use MRTG for that. Via MRTG and a specific oid number, I
thought I would be able to see the uptime of some of the channels of our
PRI. Well .. the problem is that I couldn't find any OID that'll work with
MRTG or the 4500 router.

My question: Is there an OID for this matter, or do I run a script wich
output I use for MRTG ?


Thnx,

JT

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Re: CCDA Study Materials

[GNOME]

The the CCDA Study Guide from Cisco Press is good. I have 4 case studies for
my exam


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> I haven't read that book but I can recommend the CCDA Study Guide from
Cisco
> Press.  I used that to pass the exam a couple of weeks ago.  Someone
> mentioned that they had 4 case studies- if I remember correctly I had 5!
> The Study Guide has quite a few case studies- but I didn't go through any
of
> them and I didn't answer any of the questions at the end of the chapter.
> Seriously though, the exam is not that difficult if you have a firm grasp
of
> the basic issues of networking- Congestion, applications (Web servers,
email
> servers, NT servers etc.), bandwidth requirements, network topologies,
> cabling, etc.  I found the material in the Study Guide more than adequate
> for the exam.  Hope this helps.  Oh and by the way, if you ever get down
to
> studying for the CID exam don't buy the Cisco Internetwork Design guide
from
> Cisco Press.  I used it to study for the CID exam and was unpleasantly
> surprised to find way different material on the exam.  Surprise, surprise-
I
> failed the exam by a measly few points.  Good luck to you.
>
>
> Vijay Ramcharan
> CCNP, CCDA, MCSE
>
>
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>
>
> Hello,
> Does anyone have any suggestions for books to read for the CCDA exam.  I
am
> currently reading Cisco Press "Designing Cisco Networks", but it kind of
> sucks.
>
> Thanx.
>
> len
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Re: Book sugession - CCNA

[GNOME]

I used ICND Course book and CCNA 640-507 Exam Certification 
Guide by Odom Wendell.
 
 

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  Hi All
   
  I am preparing for CCNA. Can you suggest 
  a real good book? I have Lamle's 407 book. Is this book suffice? Please 
  advice.
   
  Thanks
   
  Saswata

Re: Fwd: Re: Cable Modem problems

[Adedapo Ola]

Have you tried changing that 3com card? I have had intermittent problems 
with 3-com cards and used a simple and cheaper Linksys or Netgear 10/100 
nic. Had no more problems whatsoever.
  Adedapo.

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>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:56:37 +0500
>
>
>Coulsd u just try to reinstall the OS (win-98)..might b some prob with
>the TCP/IP files... just give it a shot..or the problem might be with the
>DHCP server at your headend..Pls check out...
>Raju
>
> >From: "Tapas Das" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Fwd: Re: Cable Modem problems
> >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:46:17 IST
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >From: ainsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: ainsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Cable Modem problems
> >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:39:25 -0400
> >
> >If its cablevision in NY give me a holla
> >
> >"Tretter, Paul" wrote:
> >
> > > I have a cable provider that has major problems all the time.
> >The
> > > problem is that they occasionally loose the network connectivity.  
>They
> > > always have us reinitialize the cable modem and get assigned an ip
> >address
> > > and gateway address.  Everything works for about 2 minutes and then we
> >have
> > > to do it all again.  The tail fin 3com modem show proper lights.
> >However, I
> > > can ping my own address but no longer the gateway everytime.  I then
> >have to
> > > reinitialize (restart) the cable modem and release/renew my dhcp
>address
> >to
> > > get it working again.  Anyone have a clue. why this is.
> > >
> > > Paul
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Re: CCDA question

[GNOME]

personally i felt that those examples in the book is not really of the same
type/nature


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>
> Are the scenarios in the DCN book by Cisco Press similar to those in the
> CCDA exam, what I mean by that is are the scenario questions good
> preparation for the exam... would anyone recommend additional scenario
type
> question? And if so where can I get such question?
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RE: PIX password

[Fowler, Joey]

Title: RE: PIX password





I don't believe there is anyway to find out what the actual password is, only to reset it if you have physical access.



Joey


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Dear Sir,


Do you have any ideea how I can find out the password for a PIX FIREWALL?
Any input it will be highly aprecieted.


Thanks,


B.





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Arrrg cant remember the 80/20 Rule !

[Hurin]

I knew this , I know I did, Must have gotten pushed out by that last
cram session. Help anybody?

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Re: NO. of CCIE

[ChrisAll]

Even though the math comes out to 5072, ther eare a number of CCIE's that
did not re-cert therefore according to Cisco internal , the total still has
not reached the 5000 point

--
Chris A.

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> Earl Aboytes announced achieving his CCIE status (congrats Earl!) in
> groupstudy just yesterday and gave his new CCIE number as #6097.  Since
> Cisco started numbering CCIEs at 1025 that would make the worldwide total
> just about 5,072.  Still a pretty elite group.
>
> Dave Swink
>
> > -Original Message-
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> > William E Gragido
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:44 PM
> > To: Brian; Gavin Payne
> > Cc: 'wind'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: NO. of CCIE
> >
> >
> > Thats right, there are only like 7800 or something.  I guy I work
> > with just
> > passed his lab last week and he is 78xx if I remember correctly.  3,
> > c'mon, the site would state that.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Brian
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 7:24 AM
> > > To: Gavin Payne
> > > Cc: 'wind'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: NO. of CCIE
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Gavin Payne wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thats the number of CCIE's with specialisations.  Apparently
> > > there are over
> > > > 30,000 normal CCIEs
> > >
> > > umm, no.  When have you ever seen a CCIE with a number like
> > "CCIE #28382"
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > > wind
> > > > Sent: 27 August 2000 08:46
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: NO. of CCIE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi;
> > > >
> > > > I checked with Cisco web site, they indicated that
> > > > the no. of CCIE
> > > > is just 4996.
> > > > As of July 31, 2000.
> > > >
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CCNA 507

[ANTHONY]

DO ANYONE HAVE ANY FLASHCARD OR BRAINSTORM QUESTION FOR A CHEAP PRICE...

   TONY


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CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[Nadeem Khawaja]

Hi Gurus!

I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on both
the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
response regarding it.
Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, what
ever you can provide.
e.g what exactly to study. 
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Re: Arrrg cant remember the 80/20 Rule !

[analogkid01]

Here it is, the answer you just *knew* was coming...ready?...

IT DEPENDS! ;-)

It depends on which book you're reading and which test you're studying for.

The original 80/20 rule stated that your network should be designed so that 80% of 
your traffic remains on the local LAN, and 20% of your traffic will cross your WAN.

Well, when I sat down and began reading the CCDA study guide, the authors reversed 
that rule, and said that only 20% of traffic will remain on the local LAN, and 80% 
will traverse the WAN.  At first I thought that they were horribly confused (a la the 
whole poison reverse thing - don't get me started!), but then they explained that with 
a network which is connected to and relies heavily on the Internet for business 
reasons, this rule is reversed.

So it basically boils down to traffic patterns - LAN traffic vs. WAN traffic, and what 
your network has to be capable of handling.

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Bradley J. Wilson
CCNA, CCDA, CCSE, MCT, CTT...and MCSE as of 8/29/00. ;)


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RE: Arrrg cant remember the 80/20 Rule !

[McCallum, Robert]

80% of traffic should stay ?? 20% of traffic should go to ???.

Fill in the blanks with either local or WAN

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Asyn DDR backup the the ISDN DDR

[Tan Choh Koon]

Hi,

I had one ISDN and one serial in Cisco 1720. ISDN is configured with DDR to
dial into the Hub. But I would like to have a backup to the ISDN if the ISDN
is down ( services provider problem). Well I like to use the PSTN with
analog modem to backup the ISDN line, can i do that ??
I only heard about the ISDN/Asyn backup the leased line, never heard how to
configure Asyn to backup the ISDN line . Any ideal ?

I knew it a bit crazy, but like your to help me.

Thnaks a lots.

Choh Koon, Tan
Systems Engineer
CCNP,CCDP

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Cisco 801 ISDN Configuration...

[Muhammad Faheem]

Hi All

I am trying to configure 2 Cisco 801 routers but badly stuck in some basic
problems pls advice me, 

The problem is from Router 1 OR Router2 using Hyperterminal i can ping the
BRI and E0 ports of each other but i am not able to ping any other PC in the
network of Router1 OR Router2 from Router console (Hyperterminal)

Attaching the configuration of both the routers pls advice.

Thanx.



 <>  <> 




router1#
router1#
router1#show run
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
no service pad
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname router1
!
enable secret 5 $1$HWh6$aDsQ3mROBnUGQnVf2i1Qn1
enable password ccna
!
username router2 password 0 cisco
ip subnet-zero
!
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 172.19.82.150 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface BRI0
 bandwidth 64
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer rotary-group 0
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 isdn spid1 3975612
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
!
interface Dialer0
 ip address 30.1.1.1 255.0.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer in-band
 dialer idle-timeout 30
 dialer map ip 30.1.1.2 name router2 3975637
 dialer hold-queue 10
 dialer load-threshold 200 either
 dialer-group 1
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap
!
ip http server
ip classless
ip route 20.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 30.1.1.2
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
snmp-server engineID local 000902309492C06E
snmp-server community public RO
!
line con 0
 transport input none
 stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
 password cisco
 login
!
end

router1#
router1#

router2#
router2#
router2#show run
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
no service pad
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname router2
!
enable secret 5 $1$KPbR$KDWPqam0vV2lAJy9X5dyA/
enable password ccna
!
username router1 password 0 cisco
ip subnet-zero
!
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 20.1.1.1 255.0.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface BRI0
 bandwidth 64
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer rotary-group 0
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 isdn spid1 3975637
!
interface Dialer0
 ip address 30.1.1.2 255.0.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer in-band
 dialer idle-timeout 30
 dialer map ip 30.1.1.1 name router1 3975612
 dialer hold-queue 10
 dialer load-threshold 200 either
 dialer-group 1
 ppp authentication chap
!
ip http server
ip classless
ip route 172.19.82.0 255.255.255.0 30.1.1.1
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!
line con 0
 transport input none
 stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
 login
!
end

router2#

PIX and SMTP Problem

[Joseph]

Dear Sir:

One of our customer use the PIX Firewall515 version 5.12 with 6-interfaces.
He use three interfaes: Internal, External and DMZ, and everything seem
well.

Only one problem: The SMTP mail server in DMZ and PIX handle SMTP (TCP/25)
performance very badevery smtp session delay more then 10sec in PIX.

Thank you very much for your attention and kindness help. Look forward to
hearing from you soon.

Joseph Chuang





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Re: Citrix ICA and PIX

[Lonnie Paschall]

I think you probably need to use altaddr command on the citrix server so
that the server will respond to the client with the translated address. It
may also be that the PIX is not letting the high TCP and UDP ports out.
Check out this document
http://ctxex10.citrix.com/texpert.nsf/2e89dc7305e02e12852566650069ba69/1d8d6
1ab7002edbb852567ee005b020d?OpenDocument

Hope that helps.

Lonnie
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> Hey gang I am having problems running published apps in Citrix. I opened
the
> 2 correct ports but the published apps still do not work through my PIX.
If
> I give each server a public IP address than they work fine. Right now I am
> using statics for outside to inside addresss.
>
> Any ideas
>
> THanks in advance,
> Steve
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Re: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[analogkid01]

Perhaps the reason you haven't had much feedback is because all the information you're 
requesting is already on the Cisco website, and if you're asking for more detailed 
information, then you're asking those who've taken the test to violate their 
confidentiality agreement.

Please visit http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html for 
further information.


Sincerely,

Bradley J. Wilson
CCNA, CCDA, CCSE, MCSE, MCT, CTT

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I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on both
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Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, what
ever you can provide.
e.g what exactly to study. 
from where to study
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RE: Arrrg cant remember the 80/20 Rule !

[Ole Drews Jensen]

80% of the traffic in a network segment is local.

Max. 20% of the network traffic should be crossing the backbone.

Hth,

Ole


 Ole Drews Jensen
 Systems Network Manager
 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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 http://www.insync.net/~drews/ccnp


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Re: why the router require username now?? related to TACACS+ issue?

[ChrisAll]

The username is most likely coming from the the command Login Tacacs or
Login Local under your console or Vty lines  Below shows what the config
would look like...

line con 0
exec-timeout 0 0
login tacacs
transport input none
line vty 0 4
exec-timeout 120 0
password cisco
login local

The difference between the "local" and "tacacs" options are as follows...

The local option will look for username/passwords pairs from a local
database on the router which is entered using the username command
username chris password cisco
username simct password routerguy
etc

The tacacs option after the login command will point the authentication to
use the configured tacacs service.  Basically in the router config you would
have a tacacs configuration pointing to a tacacs server, so when you login
it now requests a username and password and will check it against the tacacs
database.

--
Chris A.


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> Hi.. Dear all,
>
> May I know why my router require the username and password now, previouly
> when I telnet to the router, I just need to type the user mode password
>
> For your information, I think we are using the Security server to control
> access to all the router, my security server administrator just created a
> TACACS+ account for me and ask me to input my password.  After a few days,
I
> found the router require username from me after I telnet into it, then I
> type in my TACACS+ username and password , it guide me to the usermode.
and
> I found if I change the TACACS+ password in the security server, my router
> password will be changed accordingly.
>
> My question
> 1)where is the router's usermode password now? since that I log in using
> TACACS+ password?
> 2)Where I change the TACACS+ password in the security server then the
> TACACS+ for the router will be changed accordingly, how the the two things
> (Security Server and Router) link with each other
> 3)Can anyone tell me the whole picture of that
>
> Tong
>
>
>
>
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Re: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[Brian Hescock]

Nadeem,
  Go to www.cisco.com and look on the certification page on what is
covered and what resources to use to study for it.  No one can really give
you anything further because it would fall under the Non-Disclosure
Agreement.  Good luck in your studies,

Brian

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> 
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> response regarding it.
> Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, what
> ever you can provide.
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> from where to study
> what sort of questions comes
> how usefull is subscription to ccpre.com 
> 
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Re: Cisco 801 ISDN Configuration...

[ChrisAll]

The first thing I would double check is the configuration of the PC's
Is the default gateway correct?  Is the Mask correct??  Is the IP address
correct???  If you can ping each router interface from either router console
then routing is OK..But because you can't reach a PC behind the
interface, it would lead me to believe it was a PC problem.

--
Chris A.


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> Hi All
>
> I am trying to configure 2 Cisco 801 routers but badly stuck in some basic
> problems pls advice me,
>
> The problem is from Router 1 OR Router2 using Hyperterminal i can ping the
> BRI and E0 ports of each other but i am not able to ping any other PC in
the
> network of Router1 OR Router2 from Router console (Hyperterminal)
>
> Attaching the configuration of both the routers pls advice.
>
> Thanx.
>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[David Goldsmith]

Nadeem,


http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/


This link has topics and reading lists.
Let us know specifics, and as long as they don't violate any agreements we'll
try to help.

Dave Goldsmith

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2924C-XL switch question

[Jeff Walzer]

Some people at my company currently are on the 9th floor. Some people will
be moving to the 11th floor. I was wondering if the 2924C-XL switch with the
2 100Base FX ports will suffice to connect the switches together?

Thanks,
Jeff

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RE: Difference in Broadcast Domain and Collision Domain......

[Willy Schoots]

Collision domains:
Station A sends out a frame, this frame can collide with an other frame from
station X on the "wire". Station A and all other stations that could be
station X form a collision domain, this includes ports from routers and
switches. A collision domain means all the stations that share the same
physical "wire" directly or indirectly through a repeater (hub). Bridges,
switches and routers break up collision domains

Broadcast domains:
Station A sends out a broadcast, this broadcast can be received by station
X. Station A and all other stations that could be station X form a broadcast
domain. Broadcasts are normally forwarded by bridges and switches. Routers
normally filter broadcasts (not always, think about IP HELPER function).
However switches do also VLANs, this means that not all broadcasts are
forwarded out all ports. A broadcast stays within its VLAN !!!.
--> switches can break up collision domains and by using VLANs also can
break up broadcast domains.

Willy Schoots
Lucent NPS

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Suresh Uniyal
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:18 AM
To: Cisco (E-mail)
Subject: Difference in Broadcast Domain and Collision Domain..


Hi all,

How we r going to differentiate between a broadcast domain and a collision
domain.

Can we co-relate this to a router and a switch or a bridge.

-SU

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Cisco 801 ISDN Configuration...

[Muhammad Faheem]

Hi All

I am trying to configure 2 Cisco 801 routers but badly stuck in some basic
problems pls advice me, 

The problem is from Router 1 OR Router2 using Hyperterminal i can ping the
BRI and E0 ports of each other but i am not able to ping any other PC in the
network of Router1 OR Router2 from Router console (Hyperterminal)

Attaching the configuration of both the routers pls advice.

Thanx.



 <>  <> 




router1#
router1#
router1#show run
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
no service pad
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname router1
!
enable secret 5 $1$HWh6$aDsQ3mROBnUGQnVf2i1Qn1
enable password ccna
!
username router2 password 0 cisco
ip subnet-zero
!
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 172.19.82.150 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface BRI0
 bandwidth 64
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer rotary-group 0
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 isdn spid1 3975612
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
!
interface Dialer0
 ip address 30.1.1.1 255.0.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer in-band
 dialer idle-timeout 30
 dialer map ip 30.1.1.2 name router2 3975637
 dialer hold-queue 10
 dialer load-threshold 200 either
 dialer-group 1
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap
!
ip http server
ip classless
ip route 20.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 30.1.1.2
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
snmp-server engineID local 000902309492C06E
snmp-server community public RO
!
line con 0
 transport input none
 stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
 password cisco
 login
!
end

router1#
router1#

router2#
router2#
router2#show run
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
no service pad
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname router2
!
enable secret 5 $1$KPbR$KDWPqam0vV2lAJy9X5dyA/
enable password ccna
!
username router1 password 0 cisco
ip subnet-zero
!
no ip domain-lookup
isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 20.1.1.1 255.0.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface BRI0
 bandwidth 64
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer rotary-group 0
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 isdn spid1 3975637
!
interface Dialer0
 ip address 30.1.1.2 255.0.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer in-band
 dialer idle-timeout 30
 dialer map ip 30.1.1.1 name router1 3975612
 dialer hold-queue 10
 dialer load-threshold 200 either
 dialer-group 1
 ppp authentication chap
!
ip http server
ip classless
ip route 172.19.82.0 255.255.255.0 30.1.1.1
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!
line con 0
 transport input none
 stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
 login
!
end

router2#

RE: Arrrg cant remember the 80/20 Rule !

[McCallum, Robert]

No the CCDA book states that nowadays the original rule is reversed due to
central server locations etc etc.  It is merely stating that when designing
a network you have to take the considerations mainly of political business
issues under concern.  It is less traffic intensive to have your servers
local to your main users but in most cases all the servers are located in a
central location and with a client server model most of your traffic will
therfore leave your subnet.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 August 2000 14:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Arrrg cant remember the 80/20 Rule !


Here it is, the answer you just *knew* was coming...ready?...

IT DEPENDS! ;-)

It depends on which book you're reading and which test you're studying for.

The original 80/20 rule stated that your network should be designed so that
80% of your traffic remains on the local LAN, and 20% of your traffic will
cross your WAN.

Well, when I sat down and began reading the CCDA study guide, the authors
reversed that rule, and said that only 20% of traffic will remain on the
local LAN, and 80% will traverse the WAN.  At first I thought that they were
horribly confused (a la the whole poison reverse thing - don't get me
started!), but then they explained that with a network which is connected to
and relies heavily on the Internet for business reasons, this rule is
reversed.

So it basically boils down to traffic patterns - LAN traffic vs. WAN
traffic, and what your network has to be capable of handling.

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Bradley J. Wilson
CCNA, CCDA, CCSE, MCT, CTT...and MCSE as of 8/29/00. ;)


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> I knew this , I know I did, Must have gotten pushed out by that last
cram session. Help anybody?

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Re: Help on Frame-relay Traffic-shaping command

[Michael Fountain]

For frame-relay traffic-rate 32000  64000 16000

  32000 is your average speed, it is what the router will transmit at if 
there is no congestion.
  The router assumes 1/2 average speed for CIR, so it will back off to 16000 
if there is congestion.
  64000 is what it can burst up to
  I am not positive on the last value, but I think it may be the burst 
amount that can be sent per inteval in order to get the traffic up to the 
burst amount for that second.

If you have 150K of traffic to send, and your interval is 125ms it will look 
like this -

Second 1  - 20K / 20K / 4K / 4K / 4K / 4K / 4K / 4K  = 64K, Total = 64K
Second 2  -  4K /  4K / 4K / 4K / 4K / 4K / 4K / 4K  = 32K, Total = 96K
Second 3  -  4K /  4K / 4K / 4K / 4K / 4K / 4K / 4K  = 32K, Total = 128K
Second 4  -  4K /  4K / 4K / 4K / 4K / 2K / 0K / 0K  = 22K, Total = 150K

If there was more traffic to send, the router could send a total of 42K in 
the 5th second, because it would have built up 10K of credit towards 
bursting in during the 4th second.


I am not familiar with traffic shaping using the second set of commands, so 
I wont comment on them.


For the commands -
>frame-relay cir 64000
>frame-relay mincir 64000

This means that the route will always transmit at 64000 no matter what.  
Because there is no Bc set, it will never go over CIR, and because the 
mincir = cir, it will never slow down, even if there is congestion.

If you want to get 32K average and 16K minimum, you can use the following 
command -
 frame-relay traffic-rate 32000 32000

That will set the average rate to 32000, the burst rate to 32000, and the 
mincir (what the router backs off to during congestion) to 16000

By doing this, the router will run at 32K constantly unless it receives 
congestion notification.

You also need to use the 'frame-relat adaptive-shaping becn' to get the 
router to listen to becns and slow down.

Hope that helps.


>
>Hi,
>I have studied  following command at cisco website but I still have problem 
>to understand how the parameters work.
>If you can give me some example of those command, I will really appreciate 
>that.
>
>
>1.
>Frame-relay traffic-rate [bit-rate [burst-size][excess-burst-size]]
> frame-relay traffic-rate 32000  64000 16000
> look like 32000 is CIR. what about 64000 and 16000.
> Is there any different to use "frame-relay cir" command ?
>2.
>frame-relay traffic-rate 1544000
>frame-relay adaptive 64000
>Documentation tell me CIR is 64000 and access rate is 1544000. What is the 
>different with the command " frame-relay traffic-rate 32000 64000 16000" ?
>
>3.
>frame-relay cir 64000
>frame-relay mincir 64000
>Is that these two command have any relationship with "frame-relay 
>traffic-rate" ?
>4.
>If I want to get at least 16k of bandwidth but not more than 32k at serial 
>link s0, how can I use the traffic-shaping command.
>
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>
>Gerry Lian

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Re: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[Dale Holmes]

If you had been continuously READING the messages on groupstudy mailing 
lists, including the archives, you would long ago have found what you 
needed.

At this point in your endeavor, I can only suggest that you consider NOT 
taking the exam, and instead look into other career paths where the entry 
steps are more clearly laid out, such as:

taxi driver
used automobile salesman
newspaper carrier
elevator operator

There are many others that may appeal to you. If you find that you simply 
cannot let go of the notion that you should become a Cisco Certified 
Internetwork Expert, then you might check out the Exam Blueprint at 
www.cisco.com.

Good Luck!


>From: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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>Subject: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:30:49 -0400
>
>Hi Gurus!
>
>I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on both
>the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
>response regarding it.
>Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, what
>ever you can provide.
>e.g what exactly to study.
>from where to study
>what sort of questions comes
>how usefull is subscription to ccpre.com
>
>
>Thanks
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eigrp Messages

[Sandeep Kulkarni]

Hi All,
I have a 4500 router with two port ethernet & 4 port
serial module in it. On all the interfaces i am
running Eigrp. My ethernet is 198.62.99.69 which then
goes to my MSFC in the 6509 switch, there i have
another vlan with MSFC vlan interface as 10.10.10.1,
now when i telnet to 4500 i keep getting console
messages as follows. I am runnning Eigrp on my MSFC
too. Does anyone know what does these messages mean??
It keeps coming every second when i turn on terminal
monitor. (Ethernet 0 is on the 198 network & ethernet
one is shut down)

1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0



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Re: Collisions on Ethernet Lan

[John Neiberger]

Are you having an excessive number of collisions?  Why are you trying to
reduce them?  Collisions are there by design.  Off the top of my head I
forget what percentage of collisions is considered "Bad", but I believe it
was 20%.  Someone will correct me if I'm wrong on that.  Unless you are
seeing more than that or it's causing noticable performance problems, don't
worry about it.

>  Hi,
> HOw do I reduce the collisions on the ethernet 
>  LAN. 
>  I am using a cisco 2600 router with an ethernet 
>  port
>  My switch is CATALYST 1900 series.
>  
>  Please help me.
>  
>  regards
>  Raj
>  
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RE: UDP and Fragmentation

[Guyler, Rik [EESUS]]

Title: RE: UDP and Fragmentation





UI believe that UDP does include sequence numbers, otherwise the segments would arrive out of order and never be sequenced properly.  It is the acknowledgement capabilities within TCP (that UDP does not have) that makes it reliable, not necessarily the sequencing.

As always, correct me if I'm wrong!  ;-}


Rik


-Original Message-
From: Atif Awan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 5:07 AM
To: PORTER Tara; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: UDP and Fragmentation




Actually fragmentation is a layer 3 issue. IP packets encapsulate both UDP
and TCP and it is the IP datagram that can get fragmented. Thats why they
have the  fragmentation offset and identification fields in the IP header;
to take care of the fragmented packets.


TCP sequence numbers add a touch of reiliability to the TCP protocol by
ensuring that the TCP segments are arrived in order. However, UDP is not
reliable as it does not have any sequence numbers so if UDP segments do come
out of order it is the responsibility of a higher layer to point that out.


In short i think you are getting confused between segmentation and
fragmentation. Segmentation occurs at layer 4 while fragmentation occurs at
layer 3. IP handles all the fragmentation issues so be it TCP or UDP
encapsulated in IP fragmentation doesnt care for that matter.


Hope this clears things up.


Regards
Atif


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PORTER Tara
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:29 PM
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Subject: UDP and Fragmentation



Hello everybody,
I am in the process of studying for my CCIE written and I came across a
question that I can not find an answer to.  It is about UDP
and fragmentation.  What happens when UDP packets are fragmented? Do the
packets have a sequence number in thier header and does
each segment have a header?


If anybody has an idea of where I can find the anser to that question, it
would be really appreciated.  I've checked the Cisco CD
and numerous books that I have, but I can't seem to find it.  I know the
concept of fragmentation, ie, once a packet is fragmented
it doesn't get reassembled untill the end station.  If one fragment is lost,
the whole thing must be sent again.  In TCP, a packet
is fragmented and a header is put on each packet with a seq # to help the
end device.  But what about for UDP?  Is there any
difference?


Regards,
Tara Porter


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groupstudy.jobs newsgroup ?

[Bharat Suneja]

Can anyone still acess the Jobs newsgroup ? It disappeared from my list of
newsgroups and now I can't add it.

Bharat Suneja


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RE: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[Nadeem Khawaja]

Mr. Dale!

Your answer is a humiliating slang on all who wants to pursue there career
certification. This slap is not only on me but to all of you who are CCIE or
going towards it. Indeed I have been going through the archives and found
some ideas but there are so many peoples with different ideas that they
confused me on what to read and what to study. So I decided to read all the
books one by one. After I went through couple of books I figured out my self
where am I standing but could not. Since the blue print is too much to cover
and is very vague. The Cisco Blue prints covers almost everything and that
is too much to go for.
Thanks for your advise and the slang to every CCIE or newcomer 



Regards,
Nadeem Khawaja
 


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Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:10 AM
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Subject: Re: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.


If you had been continuously READING the messages on groupstudy mailing 
lists, including the archives, you would long ago have found what you 
needed.

At this point in your endeavor, I can only suggest that you consider NOT 
taking the exam, and instead look into other career paths where the entry 
steps are more clearly laid out, such as:

taxi driver
used automobile salesman
newspaper carrier
elevator operator

There are many others that may appeal to you. If you find that you simply 
cannot let go of the notion that you should become a Cisco Certified 
Internetwork Expert, then you might check out the Exam Blueprint at 
www.cisco.com.

Good Luck!


>From: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:30:49 -0400
>
>Hi Gurus!
>
>I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on both
>the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
>response regarding it.
>Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, what
>ever you can provide.
>e.g what exactly to study.
>from where to study
>what sort of questions comes
>how usefull is subscription to ccpre.com
>
>
>Thanks
>
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Re: Difference in Broadcast Domain and Collision Domain......

[Bharat Suneja]

Thanks for the clarification and a great explanation Willy - missed that
one! VLANs on switches do filter broadcasts. You would, however, need a
router to have hosts on two VLANs talk to each other.

Bharat Suneja

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> Collision domains:
> Station A sends out a frame, this frame can collide with an other frame
from
> station X on the "wire". Station A and all other stations that could be
> station X form a collision domain, this includes ports from routers and
> switches. A collision domain means all the stations that share the same
> physical "wire" directly or indirectly through a repeater (hub). Bridges,
> switches and routers break up collision domains
>
> Broadcast domains:
> Station A sends out a broadcast, this broadcast can be received by station
> X. Station A and all other stations that could be station X form a
broadcast
> domain. Broadcasts are normally forwarded by bridges and switches. Routers
> normally filter broadcasts (not always, think about IP HELPER function).
> However switches do also VLANs, this means that not all broadcasts are
> forwarded out all ports. A broadcast stays within its VLAN !!!.
> --> switches can break up collision domains and by using VLANs also can
> break up broadcast domains.
>
> Willy Schoots
> Lucent NPS
>
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> Subject: Difference in Broadcast Domain and Collision Domain..
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> How we r going to differentiate between a broadcast domain and a collision
> domain.
>
> Can we co-relate this to a router and a switch or a bridge.
>
> -SU
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Re: Arrrg cant remember the 80/20 Rule !

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

Bradley J. Wilson amswered correctly...

>Here it is, the answer you just *knew* was coming...ready?...
>
>IT DEPENDS! ;-)
>
>It depends on which book you're reading and which test you're studying for.
>

And in the real world, I don't find it any longer to be a simple 
two-component rule.  The components are:

Local traffic (printers, caches)...think of things in-building
Campus L2 (servers on same subnet, but reached by campus fiber)
Campus L3 (servers on different subnets on the same campus)
WAN connectivity

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RE: ATM Dead?

[aziz . islam]

Hi Group,
I think labelling the ATM technology as dead would be an "overkill". ATM has
its advantages as well as disadvantages. Mere opinions don't change facts.
Following are some facts about ATM:

ATM has evolved as a stable connection oriented transport that currently
operates, ATM switch to ATM switch at up to OC-48 line rates. It also lends
itself ably to traffic engineering (prior to MPLS it was the only technology
that offered traffic engineering features). It delivers many advanced
features such as PVC creation from any ingress to any egress in a given ATM
backbone, sophisticated ( but complicated ) signaling to simplify path
creation and re-routing around failures, and QoS features for bandwidth
reservation, constant bit rate, variable bit rate, and unspecified bit rate
services, applied to the cell.

However, with these advantages, ATM also has certain drawbacks. The first
and foremost being that of "overhead".  ATM consumes nearly 10% of available
bandwidth with a 5 byte cell header for each 48 byte payload cell, plus an
additional 5% is needed for the adaption layer for IP over ATM as per RFC
1483. For example, an ATM OC-48 link requires 494Mbit/sec for overhead.
Compounding the bandwidth issues is ATM's limited scalability at higher link
rates. ATM switches have only recently delivered OC-48 interface rates and
it is questionable whether OC-192 is feasible considering the overhead
associated with segmentation and reassembly, wasted bandwidth, and other
inefficiencies of pushing 53bytes across 10Gbit/sec links. Today the fastest
IP router ATM interface is OC-12, which creates a bottleneck with the advent
of OC-192 capable transport systems.

When ATM is used as the transport for delivering IP in the Internet core we
face a different set of issues. ATM requires its own administrative domain
distinct from IP at Layer 3. The ATM network elements must be interconnected
in such a way to provide redundancy. The entire ATM topology is transparent
to the IP Layer 3 topology. Therefore a second topology at Layer 3 must be
overlaid atop the ATM fabric. This is achieved by establishing PVC's between
layer 3 routers. This creates another set of problems:

1.  Two separate modalities are required for element management adding
complexity and cost to network management.

2.  IP route exchange with an IGP requires direct peering/adjacency with all
neighbors, therefore the number of PVC's required grow by a factor of
n-to-the-power-2; where n is the number of internal IGP routers. For
example, for 300 routers: 44,850 PVC's would be necessary to establish a
complete mesh. If 4 more routers are added the PVC count jumps to 46,056 (an
increase of 1206 PVC's). This represents a substantial network-provisioning
problem. In the event of a router failure in this scenario, the surviving
routers will issue IGP routing updates on the order of n-to-the-power-3 (300
routers would issue 27 Million updates). This effect can be reduced by
configuring route-reflectors/confederations, however, it still adds to the
complexity and becomes a provisioning nightmare.

3.  ATM uses its own signaling protocol (PNNI) to establish PVC's. IP uses
OSPF, IS-IS, and BGP as its signaling protocols. The two signaling layers
operate independently and therefore complicate interworking between the
layers. To gain advantage of ATM traffic engineering features IP signaling
protocols must run within the ATM PVCs.

The question boils down to Howard's C. Berkowitz's often-quoted saying,
"What is the problem that you are trying to solve ? Knowing the advantages
and disadvantages that ATM offers, educated choices regarding its usage can
be made depending upon one's application.

Aziz S. Islam
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Re: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[Oz]

maybe it's because  if you were ready to take and or study for the CCIE
written or lab
it would be a fair assumption that you knew of the cisco site and the
functions  of search engines
 and the information you seek may very well be in the groupstudy archives.
However I have been wrong more times than right .
But recognition is the first step (grin)
Oz
http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm
I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on both
the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
response regarding it.
Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, what
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e.g what exactly to study.
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Re: RE: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[analogkid01]

Nadeem -

Please do not presume to speak for all CCIE candidates.  Mr. Holmes's post was rough, 
but your original post earned you the responses you've gotten.  The CCIE certification 
is a big moutain to climb, and if you feel it is "too much," then Mr. Holmes is right 
in his advice to you.

As far as the differences in opinion are concerned, you're right in that they can be 
confusing.  However, this is a part of life, and each of us must make choices for 
ourselves on which study method to choose, which car to buy, which girl to marry.  
When looking for a new book to use in preparation for a certification exam, I read 
reviews on Amazon.com or some other online bookstore, and if that isn't enough for me 
to make a decision, then I go to my local bookstore (Softpro) and start flipping pages.

We will not spoon-feed you here.  You must decide for yourself.  Let this thread and 
conversation end here.

Sincerely,

Bradley J. Wilson
CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, MCT, CTT


Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mr. Dale!

Your answer is a humiliating slang on all who wants to pursue there career
certification. This slap is not only on me but to all of you who are CCIE or
going towards it. Indeed I have been going through the archives and found
some ideas but there are so many peoples with different ideas that they
confused me on what to read and what to study. So I decided to read all the
books one by one. After I went through couple of books I figured out my self
where am I standing but could not. Since the blue print is too much to cover
and is very vague. The Cisco Blue prints covers almost everything and that
is too much to go for.
Thanks for your advise and the slang to every CCIE or newcomer 



Regards,
Nadeem Khawaja
 


-Original Message-
From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.


If you had been continuously READING the messages on groupstudy mailing 
lists, including the archives, you would long ago have found what you 
needed.

At this point in your endeavor, I can only suggest that you consider NOT 
taking the exam, and instead look into other career paths where the entry 
steps are more clearly laid out, such as:

taxi driver
used automobile salesman
newspaper carrier
elevator operator

There are many others that may appeal to you. If you find that you simply 
cannot let go of the notion that you should become a Cisco Certified 
Internetwork Expert, then you might check out the Exam Blueprint at 
www.cisco.com.

Good Luck!


>From: Nadeem Khawaja 
>Reply-To: Nadeem Khawaja 
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" ,
>"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" 
>Subject: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:30:49 -0400
>
>Hi Gurus!
>
>I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on both
>the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
>response regarding it.
>Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, what
>ever you can provide.
>e.g what exactly to study.
>from where to study
>what sort of questions comes
>how usefull is subscription to ccpre.com
>
>
>Thanks
>

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RE: eigrp Messages

[Stull, Cory]

The 2 routers are physically on the same ethernet but not on the same IP
subnet..  EIGRP is just letting you know that it is seeing the EIGRP hello
messages being sent out from the other router but that it cannot establish
it as a neighbor router because its not on the same IP subnet...   Same
thing happens in my lab when I have all of the routers ethernet ports
plugged into the same hub and have them configured for OSPF...   If there is
nothing else on that physical ethernet that you would need the router(s) to
establish neighbor relationships with you could always setup a passive
interface...  

List guru's, if I'm off track a little here would you please let us know?
Thanks

HTH
Cory

-Original Message-
From: Sandeep Kulkarni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: eigrp Messages


Hi All,
I have a 4500 router with two port ethernet & 4 port
serial module in it. On all the interfaces i am
running Eigrp. My ethernet is 198.62.99.69 which then
goes to my MSFC in the 6509 switch, there i have
another vlan with MSFC vlan interface as 10.10.10.1,
now when i telnet to 4500 i keep getting console
messages as follows. I am runnning Eigrp on my MSFC
too. Does anyone know what does these messages mean??
It keeps coming every second when i turn on terminal
monitor. (Ethernet 0 is on the 198 network & ethernet
one is shut down)

1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0
1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
subnet for Ethernet0



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What about MeasureUp

[Miller, Nathan (AZ15)]

Does anyone have experience with the MeasureUp sample tests?  Are they an
accurate reflection of the CCNP series tests?  Are they worth the $100?  Are
there better sample tests out there?
Thanks for any and all feedback!

Nathan Miller

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OSPF/ virtual link

[Thomas Peroutka]

Hi all,

when configuring a virtual link in OSPF, should I take the physical
interface or the loopback interface as the remote router-id?
router(config-router)# area {area-id} virtual-link {remote-router-id}

-- 
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access-list and telnet

[Rodney Jackson]

Guys,

I only want admins from the inside of our network to be able to access the routers via 
telnet is there any way I could use access-lists to control this?

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Re: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[Lawrence Dwyer]

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/22/msg00318.html

Nadeem Khawaja wrote:

> Mr. Dale!
>
> Your answer is a humiliating slang on all who wants to pursue there career
> certification. This slap is not only on me but to all of you who are CCIE or
> going towards it. Indeed I have been going through the archives and found
> some ideas but there are so many peoples with different ideas that they
> confused me on what to read and what to study. So I decided to read all the
> books one by one. After I went through couple of books I figured out my self
> where am I standing but could not. Since the blue print is too much to cover
> and is very vague. The Cisco Blue prints covers almost everything and that
> is too much to go for.
> Thanks for your advise and the slang to every CCIE or newcomer
>
> Regards,
> Nadeem Khawaja
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
>
> If you had been continuously READING the messages on groupstudy mailing
> lists, including the archives, you would long ago have found what you
> needed.
>
> At this point in your endeavor, I can only suggest that you consider NOT
> taking the exam, and instead look into other career paths where the entry
> steps are more clearly laid out, such as:
>
> taxi driver
> used automobile salesman
> newspaper carrier
> elevator operator
>
> There are many others that may appeal to you. If you find that you simply
> cannot let go of the notion that you should become a Cisco Certified
> Internetwork Expert, then you might check out the Exam Blueprint at
> www.cisco.com.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> >From: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
> >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:30:49 -0400
> >
> >Hi Gurus!
> >
> >I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on both
> >the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
> >response regarding it.
> >Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, what
> >ever you can provide.
> >e.g what exactly to study.
> >from where to study
> >what sort of questions comes
> >how usefull is subscription to ccpre.com
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
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RE: Arrrg cant remember the 80/20 Rule !

[Guyler, Rik [EESUS]]

Title: RE: Arrrg cant remember the 80/20 Rule !





The 80/20 rule states that 80% of your traffic will stay local and 20% will flow outside of the LAN to the Internet/WAN.

Recent thoughts on the matter, however, have concluded that the numbers should be reversed to more accurately reflect "modern" traffic trends.  In other words, modern traffic patterns would more resemble 20% local traffic and 80% remote traffic.

Rik


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 11:11 AM
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I knew this , I know I did, Must have gotten pushed out by that last
cram session. Help anybody?


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Re: eigrp Messages

[Sandeep Kulkarni]

Oh!!! I see what you are saying, That's exactly it is,
We are in the process of migration from old 3com
switch to a new cisco switch, The old switch is
screwed up in it's config, So i am sure the 198
interface of the router is seeing the hellow packets
from the 10 interface. 
Thanks alot I got the explanation for this

Sandeep
- Original Message - 
From: "Stull, Cory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sandeep Kulkarni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: eigrp Messages


> The 2 routers are physically on the same ethernet
but not on the same IP
> subnet..  EIGRP is just letting you know that it is
seeing the EIGRP hello
> messages being sent out from the other router but
that it cannot establish
> it as a neighbor router because its not on the same
IP subnet...   Same
> thing happens in my lab when I have all of the
routers ethernet ports
> plugged into the same hub and have them configured
for OSPF...   If there is
> nothing else on that physical ethernet that you
would need the router(s) to
> establish neighbor relationships with you could
always setup a passive
> interface...  
> 
> List guru's, if I'm off track a little here would
you please let us know?
> Thanks
> 
> HTH
> Cory
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sandeep Kulkarni
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: eigrp Messages
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> I have a 4500 router with two port ethernet & 4 port
> serial module in it. On all the interfaces i am
> running Eigrp. My ethernet is 198.62.99.69 which
then
> goes to my MSFC in the 6509 switch, there i have
> another vlan with MSFC vlan interface as 10.10.10.1,
> now when i telnet to 4500 i keep getting console
> messages as follows. I am runnning Eigrp on my MSFC
> too. Does anyone know what does these messages
mean??
> It keeps coming every second when i turn on terminal
> monitor. (Ethernet 0 is on the 198 network &
ethernet
> one is shut down)
> 
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 1w0d: IP-EIGRP: Neighbor 10.10.10.1 not on common
> subnet for Ethernet0
> 
> 
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RE: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[Brian Hescock]

Nadeem,
   Hi, while Dale may have been a little hard on you, CCIE certification
isn't a quick and easy endeavor like CNE or MCSE (I know, I have  both of
them).  You're expected to know all items in the blue print, maybe not
extensively but you should be familiar with them.  So in that regard I
have to agree with Dale somewhat that if it's too much information for you 
to cover then the CCIE certification might not be what you're looking
for. The CCIE isn't a watered-down exam like all the others in the
industry, it's very difficult by design and basically requires you to put
the rest of your life on hold while you pursue it.  Passing the CCIE
written is far easier than passing the lab.

Brian

On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Nadeem Khawaja wrote:

> Mr. Dale!
> 
> Your answer is a humiliating slang on all who wants to pursue there career
> certification. This slap is not only on me but to all of you who are CCIE or
> going towards it. Indeed I have been going through the archives and found
> some ideas but there are so many peoples with different ideas that they
> confused me on what to read and what to study. So I decided to read all the
> books one by one. After I went through couple of books I figured out my self
> where am I standing but could not. Since the blue print is too much to cover
> and is very vague. The Cisco Blue prints covers almost everything and that
> is too much to go for.
> Thanks for your advise and the slang to every CCIE or newcomer 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Nadeem Khawaja
>  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
> 
> 
> If you had been continuously READING the messages on groupstudy mailing 
> lists, including the archives, you would long ago have found what you 
> needed.
> 
> At this point in your endeavor, I can only suggest that you consider NOT 
> taking the exam, and instead look into other career paths where the entry 
> steps are more clearly laid out, such as:
> 
> taxi driver
> used automobile salesman
> newspaper carrier
> elevator operator
> 
> There are many others that may appeal to you. If you find that you simply 
> cannot let go of the notion that you should become a Cisco Certified 
> Internetwork Expert, then you might check out the Exam Blueprint at 
> www.cisco.com.
> 
> Good Luck!
> 
> 
> >From: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
> >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:30:49 -0400
> >
> >Hi Gurus!
> >
> >I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on both
> >the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
> >response regarding it.
> >Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, what
> >ever you can provide.
> >e.g what exactly to study.
> >from where to study
> >what sort of questions comes
> >how usefull is subscription to ccpre.com
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
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RE: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[Earl Aboytes]

I have heard from more than one person that Caslow's book is great for the
written exam.  Take a look at it if you don't already have it.  I studied
from Giles but that is too much material.  Get Caslow's book.

~
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Nadeem Khawaja
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:31 AM
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Subject: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.

Hi Gurus!

I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on both
the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
response regarding it.
Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, what
ever you can provide.
e.g what exactly to study.
from where to study
what sort of questions comes
how usefull is subscription to ccpre.com


Thanks

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list of promiscuous nic cards? - off topic

[beth shriver]

I was told there was a registered list of Promiscuous
mode network cards that would work with varios packet
sniffing programs. I have looked high and low and was
hoping someone from the group could help!
Beth

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RE: access-list and telnet

[Irwin Lazar]

sure, set an access list that only permits your internal subnet.

such as:
access-list 1 permit 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255

then enter the following commands:

config t
line vty 0 4
access-class 1 in
end

make sure you have a password set on your vty ports.

MAKE SURE YOU TEST THIS ON A ROUTER THAT YOU CAN ACCESS VIA THE CONSOLE!!!


> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:53 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: access-list and telnet
> 
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I only want admins from the inside of our network to be able 
> to access the routers via telnet is there any way I could use 
> access-lists to control this?
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Re: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[Frank Wells]

Sign up for the CertificaionZone.com subscription and get a copy of the exam 
blueprints off CCO.  Enough said.


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>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:30:49 -0400
>
>Hi Gurus!
>
>I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on both
>the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
>response regarding it.
>Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, what
>ever you can provide.
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>from where to study
>what sort of questions comes
>how usefull is subscription to ccpre.com
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Re: Collisions on Ethernet Lan

[Atif Awan]

20% is way too much man .. i think its 0.1 %

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Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: Collisions on Ethernet Lan


>Are you having an excessive number of collisions?  Why are you trying to
>reduce them?  Collisions are there by design.  Off the top of my head I
>forget what percentage of collisions is considered "Bad", but I believe it
>was 20%.  Someone will correct me if I'm wrong on that.  Unless you are
>seeing more than that or it's causing noticable performance problems, don't
>worry about it.
>
>>  Hi,
>> HOw do I reduce the collisions on the ethernet
>>  LAN.
>>  I am using a cisco 2600 router with an ethernet
>>  port
>>  My switch is CATALYST 1900 series.
>>
>>  Please help me.
>>
>>  regards
>>  Raj
>>
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RE: access-list and telnet

[Ole Drews Jensen]

Quote from the www.cisco.com site:

=/=

Restricting Telnet Access to Particular IP Addresses
If you want to allow only certain IP addresses to use Telnet to access the
router, you must use the access-class command. The command access-class nn
in defines an access list (from 1 through 99) that allows access to the
virtual terminal lines on the router. The following configuration commands
allow incoming Telnet access to the router only from hosts on network
192.85.55.0:

access-list 12 permit 192.85.55.0 0.0.0.255
line vty 0 4
access-class 12 in

=/=

Hth,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Rodney Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:53 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: access-list and telnet


Guys,

I only want admins from the inside of our network to be able to access the
routers via telnet is there any way I could use access-lists to control
this?

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www.virtualcircuit.com

[Bessette, Jesse]

Im trying to creat a free learning site for all cisco cert wanna bee's,
please give me any feedback on anything you'de like to see
here..http://www.virtualcircuit.com

p.s it's not complete..and the email is not up yet, so please respond at
this email or here on the forum...

Thank you

Jesse Bessette

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Re: OSPF/ virtual link

[Atif Awan]

You will take the actual router ID which the OSPF process has taken up on
that router. If you have a loopback address defined on the remote router i
can bet that loopback address is taken up as the router ID  by the ospf
process.

Regards
Atif

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Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:02 PM
Subject: OSPF/ virtual link


>Hi all,
>
>when configuring a virtual link in OSPF, should I take the physical
>interface or the loopback interface as the remote router-id?
>router(config-router)# area {area-id} virtual-link {remote-router-id}
>
>--
>Viele Grüsse/ Best regards,
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Re: access-list and telnet

[Atif Awan]

Router(config)# access-list 10 permit 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255
Router(config)# line vty 0 4
Router(config-line)# access-class 10 in

Assuming your internal network is 10.10.10.0/24 the above configuration
commands will only allow the telnet sessions to be initiated by computers
internal to your network. You can also restrict the telnet sessions to a
particular machine by playing around with the access-list.

Regards
Atif


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Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:07 PM
Subject: access-list and telnet


>Guys,
>
>I only want admins from the inside of our network to be able to access the
routers via telnet is there any way I could use access-lists to control
this?
>
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Re: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[Kevin M. Woods]

Nadeem,

You have summed up your situation, maybe even to the point where
you might be better off not pursuing CCIE certification, in this
one statement.

Kevin

// The Cisco Blue prints covers almost everything and that is too much
// to go for.

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Re: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[Atif Awan]

No doubt the Caslow book is great but i wont recommend it for the written
exam. IMHO the Caslow book is an invaluable posession for the lab but now
that much for the written exam. For the written you should read Doyle's
book, Halabi's book and the info given at CCO.

Regards
Atif Awan

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From: Earl Aboytes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>I have heard from more than one person that Caslow's book is great for the
>written exam.  Take a look at it if you don't already have it.  I studied
>from Giles but that is too much material.  Get Caslow's book.
>
>~
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>Hi Gurus!
>
>I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on both
>the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
>response regarding it.
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Re: Collisions on Ethernet Lan

[John Neiberger]

You're right! I was thinking of broadcasts, which shouldn't exceed 20%.  I
think 0.1 % is a little low, though.  The collision rate can be fairly high
before you'll notice much of a degradation in performance.  I just took a
look at a fairly busy ethernet port on our main router and it was showing a
4.4% collision rate.  I personally wouldn't get worried unless the rate was
pushing 10%.

>  20% is way too much man .. i think its 0.1 %
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:36 PM
>  Subject: Re: Collisions on Ethernet Lan
>  
>  
>  >Are you having an excessive number of collisions?  Why are you trying to
>  >reduce them?  Collisions are there by design.  Off the top of my head I
>  >forget what percentage of collisions is considered "Bad", but I believe
it
>  >was 20%.  Someone will correct me if I'm wrong on that.  Unless you are
>  >seeing more than that or it's causing noticable performance problems,
don't
>  >worry about it.
>  >
>  >>  Hi,
>  >> HOw do I reduce the collisions on the ethernet
>  >>  LAN.
>  >>  I am using a cisco 2600 router with an ethernet
>  >>  port
>  >>  My switch is CATALYST 1900 series.
>  >>
>  >>  Please help me.
>  >>
>  >>  regards
>  >>  Raj
>  >>
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RE: access-list and telnet

[McCallum, Robert]

find out their ip address's, create an access list permitting them and apply
the access list to the vty port.

easy peezzy

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To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
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Guys,

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Re: ATM Dead?

[Bart Kurek]

I can give some first hand knowledge being in the industry of ATM sales. We
haven't sold ATM in Portland metro for quite some time. Not because it is
dead or because it is not functional but simply because it's to difficult
for the average broadband consumer to understand. On paper it's simple. It's
the implementation, maintenance and tuning they find difficult to
understand. To overcome this ignorance and lack of willing we sell a product
called TLS (Transparent LAN Service.) This is essentially ATM handed off to
a device which converts to 10/100 Ethernet. Even this is getting harder to
sell as we move to an IP centric environment and customer's generally need
simple Internet access or a clear channel pipe. You'll still find ATM in
bigger shops who have had ATM for some time now and have found that it
suites their needs or have simply invested so much capital in hardware that
it wouldn't make sense for them to move away. With QoS being quickly
developed for Internet based applications most customer's find that these
new devices will suite their needs. This is just my opinion. ;)

-Bart Kurek
Sales Engineer
Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
http://www.eli.net
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Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: ATM Dead?


> Hi Group,
> I think labelling the ATM technology as dead would be an "overkill". ATM
has
> its advantages as well as disadvantages. Mere opinions don't change facts.
> Following are some facts about ATM:
>
> ATM has evolved as a stable connection oriented transport that currently
> operates, ATM switch to ATM switch at up to OC-48 line rates. It also
lends
> itself ably to traffic engineering (prior to MPLS it was the only
technology
> that offered traffic engineering features). It delivers many advanced
> features such as PVC creation from any ingress to any egress in a given
ATM
> backbone, sophisticated ( but complicated ) signaling to simplify path
> creation and re-routing around failures, and QoS features for bandwidth
> reservation, constant bit rate, variable bit rate, and unspecified bit
rate
> services, applied to the cell.
>
> However, with these advantages, ATM also has certain drawbacks. The first
> and foremost being that of "overhead".  ATM consumes nearly 10% of
available
> bandwidth with a 5 byte cell header for each 48 byte payload cell, plus an
> additional 5% is needed for the adaption layer for IP over ATM as per RFC
> 1483. For example, an ATM OC-48 link requires 494Mbit/sec for overhead.
> Compounding the bandwidth issues is ATM's limited scalability at higher
link
> rates. ATM switches have only recently delivered OC-48 interface rates and
> it is questionable whether OC-192 is feasible considering the overhead
> associated with segmentation and reassembly, wasted bandwidth, and other
> inefficiencies of pushing 53bytes across 10Gbit/sec links. Today the
fastest
> IP router ATM interface is OC-12, which creates a bottleneck with the
advent
> of OC-192 capable transport systems.
>
> When ATM is used as the transport for delivering IP in the Internet core
we
> face a different set of issues. ATM requires its own administrative domain
> distinct from IP at Layer 3. The ATM network elements must be
interconnected
> in such a way to provide redundancy. The entire ATM topology is
transparent
> to the IP Layer 3 topology. Therefore a second topology at Layer 3 must be
> overlaid atop the ATM fabric. This is achieved by establishing PVC's
between
> layer 3 routers. This creates another set of problems:
>
> 1. Two separate modalities are required for element management adding
> complexity and cost to network management.
>
> 2. IP route exchange with an IGP requires direct peering/adjacency with
all
> neighbors, therefore the number of PVC's required grow by a factor of
> n-to-the-power-2; where n is the number of internal IGP routers. For
> example, for 300 routers: 44,850 PVC's would be necessary to establish a
> complete mesh. If 4 more routers are added the PVC count jumps to 46,056
(an
> increase of 1206 PVC's). This represents a substantial
network-provisioning
> problem. In the event of a router failure in this scenario, the surviving
> routers will issue IGP routing updates on the order of n-to-the-power-3
(300
> routers would issue 27 Million updates). This effect can be reduced by
> configuring route-reflectors/confederations, however, it still adds to the
> complexity and becomes a provisioning nightmare.
>
> 3. ATM uses its own signaling protocol (PNNI) to establish PVC's. IP uses
> OSPF, IS-IS, and BGP as its signaling protocols. The two signaling layers
> operate independently and therefore complicate interworking between the
> layers. To gain advantage of ATM traffic engineering features IP signaling
> protocols must run within the ATM PVCs.
>
> The question boils down to Howard's C. Berkowitz's often-quoted saying,
> "What is the problem that you are tr

RE: list of promiscuous nic cards? - off topic

[Daniel Cotts]

http://www.aggroup.com/support/hardware/epw

Lists supported NICs for EtherPeek.

> -Original Message-
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> Subject: list of promiscuous nic cards? - off topic
> 
> 
> I was told there was a registered list of Promiscuous
> mode network cards that would work with varios packet
> sniffing programs. I have looked high and low and was
> hoping someone from the group could help!
> Beth
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RE: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[J K]

dale is right . You should not be asking such trivial questions to such a 
certification. I am quiet on this list . But this is all we here. I have no 
problems helping you with bgp ospf, atm , But not with telling you how to 
try and become a certified professional. If you are meant to become one you 
would already have the know how to use cisco.com to find your information . 
So you are insulting me and the certifications i persue .

my 2 cents ..


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>Reply-To: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Dale Holmes'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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>Subject: RE: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:21:53 -0400
>
>Mr. Dale!
>
>Your answer is a humiliating slang on all who wants to pursue there career
>certification. This slap is not only on me but to all of you who are CCIE 
>or
>going towards it. Indeed I have been going through the archives and found
>some ideas but there are so many peoples with different ideas that they
>confused me on what to read and what to study. So I decided to read all the
>books one by one. After I went through couple of books I figured out my 
>self
>where am I standing but could not. Since the blue print is too much to 
>cover
>and is very vague. The Cisco Blue prints covers almost everything and that
>is too much to go for.
>Thanks for your advise and the slang to every CCIE or newcomer
>
>
>
>Regards,
>Nadeem Khawaja
>
>
>
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>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:10 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
>
>
>If you had been continuously READING the messages on groupstudy mailing
>lists, including the archives, you would long ago have found what you
>needed.
>
>At this point in your endeavor, I can only suggest that you consider NOT
>taking the exam, and instead look into other career paths where the entry
>steps are more clearly laid out, such as:
>
>taxi driver
>used automobile salesman
>newspaper carrier
>elevator operator
>
>There are many others that may appeal to you. If you find that you simply
>cannot let go of the notion that you should become a Cisco Certified
>Internetwork Expert, then you might check out the Exam Blueprint at
>www.cisco.com.
>
>Good Luck!
>
>
> >From: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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RE: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[Dale Holmes]

Nadeem,

My original response was meant partly as humor, but also as a statement of 
reality...

You state in your reply:
"The Cisco Blue prints covers almost everything, and that
is too much to go for."

I suspected that this was your attitude and that is why I wrote as I did. 
This one sentence which you have written, which stems from a deeper attitude 
within you, is the single reason which you will fail.

I cannot sugar-coat it for you. If you truly believe what you have said, 
then you will not succeed. I cannot encourage you to go forth with that 
attitude, because you will be in for a long road of heartache and 
disappointment. This is a fact.

Yes, the exam blueprint is extensive. BUT, an understanding of EVERY single 
topic on the list IS an attainable goal, AND - it is THE GOAL you must set 
for yourself if you want to get the CCIE. There are no shortcuts.

No question you can ask anyone on any list will change the fact that you 
must cover all of this material, and only you can do the work. If you 
demonstrate to this list an appetite for learning, and an earnest effort to 
obtain that learning, the I (and everyone else here) will help you in any 
way we can. BUT, when you come to the list begging for, or worse yet - 
demanding shortcuts and handouts, then the best advice I can offer you is to 
seek another path.

This is sincere advice, not sarcasm or bitter discouragement. Consider 
carefully your motivation for attaining the CCIE, and your commitment to the 
task. Then, if you find that you still want it, start again with the Exam 
Blueprint (and the resultant BIG pile of books). This is the road we all 
follow... and you will see us all, some ahead of you and some behind you, 
moving at different speeds, but all in the same direction.

Once again, Good Luck!

Dale
[=`)


>From: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Dale Holmes'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:21:53 -0400
>
>Mr. Dale!
>
>Your answer is a humiliating slang on all who wants to pursue there career
>certification. This slap is not only on me but to all of you who are CCIE 
>or
>going towards it. Indeed I have been going through the archives and found
>some ideas but there are so many peoples with different ideas that they
>confused me on what to read and what to study. So I decided to read all the
>books one by one. After I went through couple of books I figured out my 
>self
>where am I standing but could not. Since the blue print is too much to 
>cover
>and is very vague. The Cisco Blue prints covers almost everything and that
>is too much to go for.
>Thanks for your advise and the slang to every CCIE or newcomer
>
>
>
>Regards,
>Nadeem Khawaja
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:10 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
>
>
>If you had been continuously READING the messages on groupstudy mailing
>lists, including the archives, you would long ago have found what you
>needed.
>
>At this point in your endeavor, I can only suggest that you consider NOT
>taking the exam, and instead look into other career paths where the entry
>steps are more clearly laid out, such as:
>
>taxi driver
>used automobile salesman
>newspaper carrier
>elevator operator
>
>There are many others that may appeal to you. If you find that you simply
>cannot let go of the notion that you should become a Cisco Certified
>Internetwork Expert, then you might check out the Exam Blueprint at
>www.cisco.com.
>
>Good Luck!
>
>
> >From: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
> >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:30:49 -0400
> >
> >Hi Gurus!
> >
> >I have been continuously sending emails regarding CCIE Written exam on 
>both
> >the mailling lists at groupstudy.com but have not received any proper
> >response regarding it.
> >Once again i am requesting you to please provide your feedback on it, 
>what
> >ever you can provide.
> >e.g what exactly to study.
> >from where to study
> >what sort of questions comes
> >how usefull is subscription to ccpre.com
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
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Re: CCIE WRITTEN ---- Please provide your feedback.

[J K]

I think Kev is right .

(Disclamer --- I feel lost everyday but eventually i will finish the blow 
print and try mu luck )


>From: "Kevin M. Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Kevin M. Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Nadeem Khawaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: "'Dale Holmes'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: CCIE WRITTEN  Please provide your feedback.
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:21:24 -0700
>
>Nadeem,
>
>You have summed up your situation, maybe even to the point where
>you might be better off not pursuing CCIE certification, in this
>one statement.
>
>Kevin
>
>// The Cisco Blue prints covers almost everything and that is too much
>// to go for.
>
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New Router Simulator

[Tretter, Paul]

I could take on the task of creating a new Router Sim if someone
could provide the technical knowledge - I could do the programming.
Shouldnt take long to produce.

Paul Tretter

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Re: Citrix ICA and PIX

[Dragon]

Steve,

Lonnie's suggestion is correct.  I've done this and it does work.  You need
to use the 'altaddr' command on each Citrix server so it will return the
external IP rather than the internal IP to the client.  You also need to
have the client ask for the alternate address, only for external clients
obviously.  This is a config setting on the client.  I am using the ICA
client version 4.21.779 and within the client I hit the 'Settings' button,
from there I hit the 'Firewalls...' button then I check the 'Use Alternate
address for Firewalls' check box.  As you've indicated you also need to have
the TCP 1494 (unless changed) and UDP 1604 (you can't change this one) ports
open on the PIX.

Good luck,
Dave

Cisco CCNA/CCDA, Citrix CCA, Microsoft MCSE, Check Point CCSA


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> Hey gang I am having problems running published apps in Citrix. I opened
the
> 2 correct ports but the published apps still do not work through my PIX.
If
> I give each server a public IP address than they work fine. Right now I am
> using statics for outside to inside addresss.
>
> Any ideas
>
> THanks in advance,
> Steve
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RE: Exam 350-001, I'm so pissed!

[Jon . E . Gudmundsson]

Look in the archives. Princilla Oppenheimer asked cisco about whether the
surwey affects the score and posted the answer to this list a few months
ago. I can not explain it better than cisco did.
regards
Jon Eggert Gudmundsson
MCSE,CCNA,CCDA
Network Administrator
Icelandic Banks Data Center


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27. ágúst 2000 23:15
To: Brian; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nigel Taylor; Chuck Larrieu
Subject: Re: Exam 350-001, I'm so pissed!


Although the idea that the survey affects the score is interesting, I too
cannot fathom how the survey matters.

You can answer the survey different for every exam.  Where is the continuity
there?  And explain to me the difference between a "beginning" CCIE
Candidate and a "seasoned" CCIE Candidate.

Changing your answers to the survey seems like an easy way to improve your
odds.  How would Cisco know that your survey answers are correct?

In truth, I don't think I have answered all the surveys the same as I have
grown from the first Cisco exam over 2 years ago to completing CCDP/CCDP
just last month.

Nah, I don't think the survey means anything to us.  I do think that Cisco
wants to know the demographics of who is taking what exams.  Unfortunately
this would mean that Cisco is adding a little scare tactic to get you to
answer their survey but perhaps adding a little more anxiety when you need
it least.

my .02 cents

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP...

- Original Message -
From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Nigel Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, 27 August, 2000 17:24
Subject: Re: Exam 350-001, I'm so pissed!


> On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I have to agree with Chuck on this matter. The survey IS NOT / CAN'T BE
an
> > influence on your score. The cisco exams are not even "adaptive" like
the Novell
> > exams. The questions are pulled from a pool established by evaluating
the beta
> > exam results and a certain number of questions are pulled for each
subsection of
> > the exam. There really would be no point to making the exam difficulty
relative to
> > survey responses. If Cisco did that, the exams would be WORTHLESS,
allowing you to
> > sandbag them by answering that you are a complete novice. What is the
CCIE written
> > supposed to do ? Fill out the survey that you have 2 weeks experience
and it'll
> > give you CCNA-level questions instead of asking about obscure details of
token
> > ring? The difficulty level of the exam is a constant, not a variable.
>
> Read the disclaimer next time you test.  It clearly states that how you
> answer the questionairre will influence your score.  Cisco tests are not
> adaptive, but they are weighted.  If you are a beginner, you would be
> expected not to miss questions on fundementals..perhaps those are
> weighted more, vs. questions that are more advanced which it may weigh
> less for a beginner.  If you claim you are the God of networking, you
> would probably get more weight to more advanced questions, and penalized
> less for missing beginner questions that might be say something someone
> more advanced may have forgotten.
>
> I do not know "how" they do itI am just going by what they tell
> you when you test, and this is for the professional tests not just the
> CCIE teststhey clearly state that "how you answer this
> questionairre will influence how your test is scored"doesn't
> seem to vaugue to me...
>
> Brian
>


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deferred packets on eth on C7206vxr

[Nodir Nazarov]

Hello,

I have number of deferred packets increasing on my ethernet interface on
C7206vxr. I don't see any noticeable disruptions on the network, but
this pattern bothers me. What am I overlooking ??

Nodir

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Sacramento/Placer County Cisco Users Group Meeting 9/5

[Mike Tandino]

SPCCUG MEETING Tuesday, September 5th
A MUST SEE EVENT!

Time: 6:30 to 9:00 PM

Level: Both CCNA and CCIE

Who's Speaking?  
Coriolis And Sybex Author & Instructor - Sean Odom

Don't know who Sean Odom is?  Visit his website at
www.TheQuestForCertification.com or www.Lammle.com

What's he speaking on?  
CCNA/Configuring Interfaces and CCIE/Frame Relay.  He will be providing a
Frame Relay lab as well as the equipment including routers, switches, and
Frame Relay switch. 
(Bring a laptop if you can) 

Where?  
NerdBooks.Com 911 Washington Street in Roseville, CA

How do I get there?
>From Sacramento take East 80 to Douglas.  Go over the freeway.  Make a right
on Judas Street another right on Oak Street and a left on Washington. 
Nerdbooks is at Washington and Junction.  (On The Left hand side).  They
have over 400 Cisco Certification Books!  Cisco group members will receive
30% off every book they buy...all night!


 This is your chance to meet an author 
  and get hands-on experience with 
routers and switches
in a non-production environment

SPCCUG Meeting Bylaws:
- The cost is $5 per meeting, refreshments are provided.
- At the end of the meeting prizes are awarded from participating 
   vendor donations.
-Vendors are never allowed to advertise during any technical
   presentation.
-Technical Presentations are never sales presentations.
-The focus of the group is to obtain certifications, Cisco technical and
real world working knowledge.
-Group members consist of two main groups: Those attempting their CCNA/CCDA
and those attempting the CCIE, CCNP/CCDP.
-No prerequisites are required to join the group.
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Help needed for CCNP

[Rahul Pinto]

Hi All,

I  need to know which is the best test engines available for all the new
CCNP papers. I am studying Laura Chappell's ACRC and Bassam Halabi's
Internet routing architectures (For BGP). is this enough.

Cheers,
Rahul




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RE: access-list and telnet

[Gawie Herholdt]

Title: RE: access-list and telnet





You can do this by creating a standard IP access list and apply it to your VTY's. You can make it more stricter by playing with the wildcard mask bits. A sample config could look like this: 

access-list 55 permit 172.16.1.0 0.0.0.255
.
.
.
line vty 0 4
 access-class 55 in


Give it a try
Gawie



 -Original Message-
From:   Rodney Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   30 August 2000 16:53
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:    access-list and telnet


Guys,


I only want admins from the inside of our network to be able to access the routers via telnet is there any way I could use access-lists to control this?

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IGMP Snoop

[Daniel Boutet]

In order to enable CGMP on a switch IGMP snooping has to be disable.

This is what I found on CCO:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/22.html#IGMP%20Snooping

So is my understanding right. On c5000/c6000 series I have to issue: set
igmp disable in order for cgmp to be enabled?

Issuing the set cgmp enable command won't disable igmp automatically?

Thanks for your help!



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