RE: IP Subnetting Question

2000-10-18 Thread McCallum, Robert



As 
phil has said mate, it is in the question!
 
They 
have probably asked how many bits of subnetting are being used in which case the 
answer is perfectly correct.  You are giving the answer as the 
full mask = natural mask + subnet mask

  -Original Message-From: Robert Cabeca 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 17 October 2000 
  18:00To: cisco group studySubject: IP Subnetting 
  Question
  I am not understanding the concept of using an IP address followed by /n. 
  Example 10.20.193.20 /28. The way I am looking at it I get a Subnet mask of 
  255.255.255.240. But I am being told that it is really a mask of 
  255.255.240.0, however I am not being given an explanation. I thought that 
  255.255.240.0 has a /20. but it is a /12 instead? Any enlightenment would be 
  appreciated. 
   
  peace 
  Rob
   


Re: [Re: External & Internal BGP]

2000-10-18 Thread FAISAL ATHAR

Hi Wandoo,

Thanks for the info,
Can you please describe this in detail with some example.

Thanks.

Faisal.




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On 18 Oct 2000, FAISAL ATHAR wrote:

> Can any one explain the purpose of Internal BGP.According to my knowledge
it
> it used  between sites with in the same autonomous system.

True, assuming you mean routers.

> But Question is that BGP is Exterior routing protocol,develop mainly to
> connect two different  autonomous systems, then what is the purpose of
Using
> Internal BGP, within the same autonomous sytems although we could use any
> other Interior routing protocol there.

You need internal BGP to carry path information between external BGP
routers, eg for a transit AS.

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access server can't access the dial in- pls help :(

2000-10-18 Thread Sim, CT (Chee Tong)

Dear all,

I have configured a access server as shown below, I attach my modem in Asyn
1 port and I can reverse telnet to it and the phone line got no problem.

Besides, I used use a PC (win95) with a modem installed.  In win95, I use
hyperterminal to connect the PC modem and tested the at command,.. it work,
so I used atdt 7 (my access server phone no) but I only heard the ring
ring tone, the access server never accept it but I can see from the word
RING RING on the access server's modem at command console.  What should I
configure to let the access server modem pick up the call 




###

interface Ethernet0
 ip address 60.200.166.11 255.255.252.0
 no logging event subif-link-status
!

interface Async1
 ip unnumbered Ethernet0
 encapsulation ppp
 no logging event subif-link-status
 async dynamic address
 async mode interactive
 peer default ip address 60.200.166.15
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 60.200.164.1 permanent
!
line con 0
line 1
 password abc123
 autoselect ppp
 login
 modem InOut
 transport input all
 stopbits 1
 speed 2400
 flowcontrol hardware

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Re: Can't Ping Local Serial Interface of 2610

2000-10-18 Thread jason yee

Trying do a frame-relay map statement that maps dlci
no to the ip address of the interface you are trying
to ping


suaveguru
--- "Claussen, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I am trying to setup a Frame Relay link in a lab
> situation. We have Layer 2
> speaking LMI back and forth and the line Protocol is
> reported as Up on the
> serial interface. We assigned it a Private address
> and created a static
> route pointing at the serial interface of the other
> router. When you do a
> Show ip route it reports that all the routes exist
> as I believe they should
> (See config to follow) The Problem is we can't ping
> the IP address of the
> local serial interface 192.168.4.1, and I can't seem
> to figure out why. I
> beleive if I could ping the local serial interface
> then traffic would pass
> from our development network to our test network on
> 192.168.3.1. Please
> review my config on the 2610 and help me figure out
> why I can't ping the
> local interface before I use this router as a
> frisbee (which would be a
> shame considering it is a 2610) 
> Begin Config 
> Current configuration:
> !
> version 12.0
> service timestamps debug uptime
> service timestamps log uptime
> no service password-encryption
> !
> hostname cisco2600
> !
> enable password cisco
> !
> ip subnet-zero
> !
> !
> !
> !
> !
> interface Ethernet0/0
> ip address 192.168.1.3 255.255.255.0
> no ip directed-broadcast
> !
> interface Serial0/0
> ip address 192.168.4.1 255.255.255.0
> no ip directed-broadcast
> encapsulation frame-relay IETF
> no ip mroute-cache
> frame-relay interface-dlci 101
> !
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1
> ip route 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.4.2
> no ip http server
> !
> dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
> dialer-list 1 protocol ipx permit
> snmp-server engineID local 0009023094104240
> snmp-server community public RO
> !
> line con 0
> exec-timeout 0 0
> password cisco
> transport input none
> line aux 0
> line vty 0 4
> password cisco
> login
> !
> no scheduler allocate
> end
> cisco2600#
> End Config
> Please help to save my sanity! all responses are
> greatly appreciated!
> 
> 
> Ken Claussen MCSE CCNA CCA
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RE: access server can't access the dial in- pls help :(

2000-10-18 Thread Serhat Erkan

this is not a RAS problem, it just a modem problem. take its settings to
answer at first ring.. its at command is ATS0=1

good luck

p.s 
for easy installation for RAS side use Cisco ConfigMaker. it is free and
downloadable at Cisco site.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 1:25 PM
To: 'ElephantChild'; 'FAISAL ATHAR'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: access server can't access the dial in- pls help :(


Dear all,

I have configured a access server as shown below, I attach my modem in Asyn
1 port and I can reverse telnet to it and the phone line got no problem.

Besides, I used use a PC (win95) with a modem installed.  In win95, I use
hyperterminal to connect the PC modem and tested the at command,.. it work,
so I used atdt 7 (my access server phone no) but I only heard the ring
ring tone, the access server never accept it but I can see from the word
RING RING on the access server's modem at command console.  What should I
configure to let the access server modem pick up the call 




###

interface Ethernet0
 ip address 60.200.166.11 255.255.252.0
 no logging event subif-link-status
!

interface Async1
 ip unnumbered Ethernet0
 encapsulation ppp
 no logging event subif-link-status
 async dynamic address
 async mode interactive
 peer default ip address 60.200.166.15
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 60.200.164.1 permanent
!
line con 0
line 1
 password abc123
 autoselect ppp
 login
 modem InOut
 transport input all
 stopbits 1
 speed 2400
 flowcontrol hardware

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CCDA

2000-10-18 Thread Jayesh Patel

Hello I am preparing for my CCDA exam! Can i have some help !!! how many
questions, time for the exam !!! how tuff !! what are the main area it
concontrates on!!



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where can i download a 11.3 IOS for 2501?

2000-10-18 Thread cslx

is 11.3's IOS' size more than 4M?


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Re: cross-over roll-over : Here is THE simplest rule

2000-10-18 Thread dan snyder

take it outside.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: cross-over roll-over : Here is THE simplest rule


> I dont know with you but I can connect my workstation directly to a modem

> Ever heard of a serial port?The reason that you can connect a
workstaion
> to a LAN devices is that it has LAN device which is the NIC  card.  And
dont
> ever tell us that a workstaion is a layer 3 devices cause its not .  Does
a
> workstation ever do routing? Its not even a  layer 4, 5, 6, or 7 by
itself.
> But if you put in the software or hardware that will enable it to do this
> things then it can be any of these.
>
>
> >H, let me think. I never thought of that, that someday we will be
> >connecting a workstation to a modem with a Cat5 cable.
> >Workstation to a modem, ?  no the rule does not apply
> >How about a TV to a VCR?   no, it does not apply neither.
> >How about the toaster?   nooope.
> >
> >You are right, that is not a good rule. Don't use it.
> >
> >Bernard
> >
>
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2 line: the best solution ?

2000-10-18 Thread Cristi Piatnitchi

Hi all

I have 2 leased line (64kb) one of them working with voice and data and the
other one just with data. 2 Cisco routers. I want to set-up these lines to
work toghether. Which one is the best solution:

router -  router
| |
\-->Multiplexor--Multiplexor

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Re: "Window" field - TCP packet

2000-10-18 Thread Dale Holmes

Hmm, sounds like I need to dust off my old copy of Visual Studio (and my 
brain) and bang this utility out.

Maybe after I pass the lab. No, then I've got the design lab to prepare for 
(have you heard anything about that???)... Maybe someone else better do 
it...

Seriously - I agree that it would be a cool tool! I didn't know that 
EtherPeek would let you capture and view the decode at the same time - that 
is really cool! I need that now... I better take a look that EtherPeek. Does 
it run only on a Mac?

Dale
[=`)


>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: "Window" field - TCP packet
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:12:05 -0700
>
>Nice answer, Dale.
>
>Do you think he was literally asking for a utility that would show the
>window size as a station was transmitting? That would be quite useful
>actually...
>
>EtherPeek from www.WildPackets.com (used to be AG Group) lets you capture
>and display packets at the same time. So you could filter on your station
>and its partner and track windows that way. You could see the receive
>window rather easily, since it's size is advertised on every segment. The
>send window would be harder, requiring an analysis of sequence numbers and
>the other side's receive window.
>
>But I can't think of a utility that graphically shows send and receive
>windows for a transmitter. That would be really cool, wouldn't it?
>
>Priscilla
>
>
>At 03:55 PM 10/17/00, Dale Holmes wrote:
>>Each station in a TCP conversation will advertise a window which
>>represents the amount of buffer space that the station has available for
>>this conversation. The window size of a packet is the buffer available for
>>the station that is sending the packet, indicating to the recipient how
>>much data to send.
>>
>>It is called a "sliding window" because it is variable and will change
>>throughout the course of the conversation.
>>
>>For more detail on this, I would look at Douglas Comer's "Internetworking
>>with TCP/IP" volume I.
>>
>>I have not seen a utility that will display the window size during the
>>transmission of the packet. A sniffer will display all of the packet
>>fields, but only after you have captured the transfer and opted to display
>>it (but of course you knew that already)...
>>
>>Dale
>>[=`)
>>
>>
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>>>Reply-To: "Billy Monroe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>>Subject: "Window" field - TCP packet
>>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:05:12 -0700
>>>
>>>Hello:
>>>
>>>Is there any way to see the size of the (sliding) window when transmiting 
>>>a
>>>TCP packet ?
>>>
>>>I saw a "Window" field using a sniffer and the number was big 28765...
>>>Please correct me if I am wrong: I believe that is the buffer of the
>>>receiving station.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Ronaldo
>>>
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CIT

2000-10-18 Thread SH Wesson

Can someone tell me how the CIT exam is like.  How does it compare to the 
other exams.  I glanced over the CIT book and it looks like a lot of stuff 
is understanding different "show ..." commands and "debug ..." commands.  
Any hints or advice would be appreciated.  Thanks.
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ATM & CDP

2000-10-18 Thread Jake Secrist

I have a Cisco router connected to a Cisco LightStream 1010 ATM switch.
 The 'sh int atm 1/0' command shows that the interface and line
protocol are up, but I can't ping what I thought was the IP address of
the switch's ATM interface(10.11.1.2/24).  I know the IP address of the
ATM interface on the router (10.11.1.1/24), but I can't figure out the
IP address of the switch's ATM interface.  Would this address normally
show up in the 'show cdp neighbors' command?  The output of that
command shows nothing for the ATM interface.  In the 'sh ip arp'
command, there are only Ethernet entries, none for ATM.  Also, can you
ping over ATM?  Obviously I don't know a whole lot about ATM, but I'd
appreciate any help anyone can offer.

Thanks,

Jake

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RE: Connecting T1 controller BACK TO BACK

2000-10-18 Thread Ejay Hire

Rollover cables - (most of the Rj-45 Console cables)
1 - 8
2 - 7
3 - 6
4 - 5

Not a Crossover cable.

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To: 'Ejay Hire' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Connecting T1 controller BACK TO BACK
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:43:05 -0700




What is rollover cable ? ,Is it  cross over cable or some thing different
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IIRC, You can use a rollover cable or make your own with pins 1,2 and 7,8
reversed.


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Subject: Connecting T1 controller BACK TO BACK
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:10:16 -0500

Can you tell me how to connect the T1 controller back to back (What cabling

type is used ?) on Cisco MC3810 ,I want to simulate a back to back VoATM.

Regards
Thangavel

HCL TECHNOLOGIES LTD
CHENNAI,INDIA

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Re: Token ring and duplex

2000-10-18 Thread Edward Solomon

""Ejay Hire"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Full-Duplex/Half-Duplex settings do not apply in a Token ring environment.
>
> Duplex settings deterrmine whether or not a system can recieve and
transmit
> at the smae time in a CSMA/_C_ollision _D_etect (Ethernet) environment.
> Token Ring Does not use CSMA/CD, but use token-passing instead.
>
> On a Token Ring network, only one system transmits at a time, all of the
> others listen.

I am very sorry, but this is misinformation.

Token RIng full duplex support has absolutely nothing to do with the token
passing nature of the protocol, still less the CSMA/CD protocol of Ethernet,
which is not under discussion at all.

Token Ring networks do support the use of full duplex operation if the
stations are attached to a switch. Token Ring switches, just like ISDN, ATM,
Ethernet and so on, support full duplex operation.
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Re: Optimizing link

2000-10-18 Thread Ejay Hire

If your utilization is below 40% don't touch it.  Above 40% and you start 
looking at things like Priority or Custom queuing, reducing bandwidth used 
by unnecessary routing updates or keepalives, reducing unnecessary trafic 
accross the wan Link (Cached Name resolution on the router...)  Then there 
are some gains (at a cost of higher latency) by usinig TCP Header 
compression and Data Compression, but both of these require more processing 
power in the router.  (That's all I can think of without more specifics.)

Oh, and if you're using TDM to share the line with voice traffic, you can 
consolidate with a couple of ATM switches., and make the Voice traffic 
"Share" it's wasted bandwidth


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Hi,

What are the possible ways through which we can otimize the link and use 
maximum out of a leased line.

TIA

Gm


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Re: COLT tests

2000-10-18 Thread Lance Hubbard

Yes, If the COLT tests were tires, I'm afraid they would be Firestone 
Wilderness series...complete with the deflating effect

(Sorry, couldn't help it).

Lance


>From: "Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: COLT tests
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:46:10 CDT
>
>Thank God its not just me.  I took 2 of the Colts as a pre-assesment for 
>taking BCSN, and thought I had no chance of ever passing the real thing and 
>should learn to change tires instead!!  I feel a lot better knowing that 
>they really are as awful as I thought they were.
>
>Whew!
>-Ejay
>
>
>Original Message Follows
>From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: COLT tests
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 06:27:34 PDT
>
>I think I have to agree.
>
>I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite using the
>book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52.  The questions I 
>missed
>were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco Press).  The
>test contradicts the book often, and several times questions have multiple
>correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but there are
>literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you are 
>allowed
>to pick just one.  It did open my eyes to some problem areas for me, but
>this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Lance
>
>
>>From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: COLT tests
>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500
>>
>>COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I 
>>counted
>>over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct answers
>>listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to try to get
>>through it. There is a very good reason that these questions are not on 
>>the
>>real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous questions,
>>badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they require 
>>a
>>Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one has made 
>>any
>>attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is that they
>>are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some were
>>paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. It is my
>>belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather some 
>>hired
>>third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking about
>>(let's hope that this is the case, or else they are a real embarrassment 
>>to
>>Cisco!). I had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even showing
>>the gifs (they have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse to
>>make a decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it as
>>a reference to make sure that you have covered the material. The real exam
>>has a few nebulous questions, but not to the extent that the assessment
>>exams do.
>>
>>Regards,
>>MLC
>>   "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>   They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. No
>>charge, excellent rescource!
>> "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01...
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I
>>have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
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Re: Token ring and duplex

2000-10-18 Thread Ejay Hire

Okay,now I'm Confuzzled.  A Token ring Frame is timed so that the first bit 
of a MTU sized frame returns to the Sending station immediately after the 
last bit was transmitted.  Then It checks the error/received bits and strips 
it off the ring.  How could it work full duplex unless there were two tokens 
on the ring?

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Subject: Re: Token ring and duplex
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:59:22 -0700

The Dedicated Token Ring port adapter (PA-4R-DTR) is available on Cisco
7500 series routers, Cisco 7200 series routers, and Cisco 7000 series
routers with the 7000 Series Route Switch Processor (RSP7000) and 7000
Series Chassis Interface (RSP7000CI).

The PA-4R-DTR provides up to four IBM Token Ring or IEEE 802.5 Token Ring
interfaces. Each Token Ring interface can be set for 4 Mbps or 16 Mbps
half-duplex or full-duplex operation and can operate as a standard Token
Ring station or as a concentrator port. The default for all interfaces is
Token Ring station mode with half-duplex 16-Mbps operation. The PA-4R-DTR
connects over Type 1 lobe or Type 3 lobe cables, with each interface
providing an RJ-45 receptacle.

So, Token Ring does have a "full-duplex" operation. I guess you would use
it on back-to-back links, just like you use full-duplex Ethernet on
back-to-back links.

Priscilla

At 05:13 PM 10/17/00, Ejay Hire wrote:
>Full-Duplex/Half-Duplex settings do not apply in a Token ring environment.
>
>Duplex settings deterrmine whether or not a system can recieve and
>transmit at the smae time in a CSMA/_C_ollision _D_etect (Ethernet)
>environment.
>Token Ring Does not use CSMA/CD, but use token-passing instead.
>
>On a Token Ring network, only one system transmits at a time, all of the
>others listen.
>
>
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Token ring and duplex
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:07:16 GMT
>
>If a token ring is running at a speed of 16, should the duplex be full or
>half.  If it's at half, what may be some problems as a result of it.
>thanks.
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Re: "Window" field - TCP packet

2000-10-18 Thread Dale Cantrell

Hi Dale, you can find a copy of Ethepeek/Tokenpeek on every CD that comes in 
the Sybex Todd Lammle books. Old CCNA 1.0, ACRC books in particular. Hope 
you get the lab on first try. :>)
Dale CCNA
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Is TDM full duplex or half duplex

2000-10-18 Thread Jeff Lodwick

Hi everyone,
Does anyone know if Time Division Multiplexing will work with only half 
duplexing or only full duplexing or both.  Jeff Lodwick MCSE/CCNA
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RE: ATM & CDP

2000-10-18 Thread Vijay Ramcharan

The "show cdp neighbors detail" command will show you the IP address of the
neighbors.

Vijay Ramcharan
CCNP, CCDP, MCSE


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I have a Cisco router connected to a Cisco LightStream 1010 ATM switch.
 The 'sh int atm 1/0' command shows that the interface and line
protocol are up, but I can't ping what I thought was the IP address of
the switch's ATM interface(10.11.1.2/24).  I know the IP address of the
ATM interface on the router (10.11.1.1/24), but I can't figure out the
IP address of the switch's ATM interface.  Would this address normally
show up in the 'show cdp neighbors' command?  The output of that
command shows nothing for the ATM interface.  In the 'sh ip arp'
command, there are only Ethernet entries, none for ATM.  Also, can you
ping over ATM?  Obviously I don't know a whole lot about ATM, but I'd
appreciate any help anyone can offer.

Thanks,

Jake

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RE: 2 line: the best solution ?

2000-10-18 Thread Andrew Larkins

backup interface does not just refer to dialup. It is a common practice to
use this kind of dialup backup as it is cheaper.

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Subject: 2 line: the best solution ?


Hi all

I have 2 leased line (64kb) one of them working with voice and data and the
other one just with data. 2 Cisco routers. I want to set-up these lines to
work toghether. Which one is the best solution:

router -  router
| |
\-->Multiplexor--Multiplexor

Re: access server can't access the dial in- pls help :(

2000-10-18 Thread Paul Lalonde

Hi,

Sometimes you need the 'modem type ...' or 'modem type autoconfigure' line
to allow the router to configure the proper lines on the modem.  After
finding my USR modem, my access server would answer automatically.

Hope this helps,
Paul

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> Dear all,
>
> I have configured a access server as shown below, I attach my modem in
Asyn
> 1 port and I can reverse telnet to it and the phone line got no problem.
>
> Besides, I used use a PC (win95) with a modem installed.  In win95, I use
> hyperterminal to connect the PC modem and tested the at command,.. it
work,
> so I used atdt 7 (my access server phone no) but I only heard the ring
> ring tone, the access server never accept it but I can see from the word
> RING RING on the access server's modem at command console.  What should I
> configure to let the access server modem pick up the call
>
>
>
>

> ###
>
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 60.200.166.11 255.255.252.0
>  no logging event subif-link-status
> !
>
> interface Async1
>  ip unnumbered Ethernet0
>  encapsulation ppp
>  no logging event subif-link-status
>  async dynamic address
>  async mode interactive
>  peer default ip address 60.200.166.15
> !
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 60.200.164.1 permanent
> !
> line con 0
> line 1
>  password abc123
>  autoselect ppp
>  login
>  modem InOut
>  transport input all
>  stopbits 1
>  speed 2400
>  flowcontrol hardware
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Re: CCDA

2000-10-18 Thread Alex

Hi
I took it couple of days ago, 72 questions, 120 minuets, 755 to pass.
A lot of reading I had about 40 scenario questions.

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> questions, time for the exam !!! how tuff !! what are the main area it
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Slightly OT: Stable IOS versions, 12.1?

2000-10-18 Thread John Neiberger

We are currently running 11.2(17) on our 7513 backbone router and we're
going to be upgrading to 12 in the near future.  After examining  the bug
reports I initially picked 12.0(12) since it looked pretty stable.  However,
12.0 does not have some nifty features that we like, especially the
"grep"-like command "include" and the ability to pipe show commands. 

We are now putting 12.1(4) on our branch routers (2620s) but I was wondering
if anyone had any experience, good or bad, with 12.1 on a 7500 series
router.  We need error-free performance with EIGRP, DLSw+, IP, IPX, WFQ,
ATM.

I'm a little hesitant to put the latest IOS on our backbone router, but from
the looks of it, 12.1(4) might be a better choice than 12.0(12), but it
seems like upgrading the IOS on a Cisco router is a crap shoot; you just
pray that the bugs of that particular version don't hurt you TOO much.

Ok, I'll quit rambling and go get some more coffee.  Any input will be
gladly accepted.

-- John





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CiscoSecure

2000-10-18 Thread C. Cubberley

Hi all,

   I have some questions on dial-up security.  Currently we are using
CiscoSecure on a Unix platform, with the default ISQL database, and AAA
using TACACS+.
These seem to have been all the wrong choices.  The current thought is to
continue with CiscoSecure, but use it on an NT box, with the default
database, and change to RADIUS.  I think that maybe a mistake, TACACS seems
so much more robust, and we already have a good start on it (over 3,000
users defined).  But, it seems like Cisco is not giving it very much support
anymore.
So, the question is, is anybody using CiscoSecure with NT and Radius, and
liking it, or is there any other product people are happy with and would
recommend?

Thanks in advance,
C. Cubberley
State of New Jersey

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OT: 5-4-3 rule

2000-10-18 Thread John Hays

Using the 5-4-3 rule, why can only 3 segments be populated

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Re: COLT tests

2000-10-18 Thread Niraj Palikhey

How would I take the Colt tests? Are these the same practise tests on the 
Cisco web site that is for registered CCO users? I forget the url but does 
anyone know the url? I would appreciate it.
Thank you.



>From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: COLT tests
>Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 06:38:42 PDT
>
>Yes, If the COLT tests were tires, I'm afraid they would be Firestone
>Wilderness series...complete with the deflating effect
>
>(Sorry, couldn't help it).
>
>Lance
>
>
>>From: "Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: COLT tests
>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:46:10 CDT
>>
>>Thank God its not just me.  I took 2 of the Colts as a pre-assesment for
>>taking BCSN, and thought I had no chance of ever passing the real thing 
>>and
>>should learn to change tires instead!!  I feel a lot better knowing that
>>they really are as awful as I thought they were.
>>
>>Whew!
>>-Ejay
>>
>>
>>Original Message Follows
>>From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: COLT tests
>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 06:27:34 PDT
>>
>>I think I have to agree.
>>
>>I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite using the
>>book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52.  The questions I
>>missed
>>were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco Press).  The
>>test contradicts the book often, and several times questions have multiple
>>correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but there are
>>literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you are
>>allowed
>>to pick just one.  It did open my eyes to some problem areas for me, but
>>this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Lance
>>
>>
>>>From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: COLT tests
>>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500
>>>
>>>COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I
>>>counted
>>>over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct answers
>>>listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to try to get
>>>through it. There is a very good reason that these questions are not on
>>>the
>>>real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous 
>>>questions,
>>>badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they require
>>>a
>>>Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one has made
>>>any
>>>attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is that they
>>>are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some were
>>>paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. It is my
>>>belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather some
>>>hired
>>>third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking about
>>>(let's hope that this is the case, or else they are a real embarrassment
>>>to
>>>Cisco!). I had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even showing
>>>the gifs (they have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse 
>>>to
>>>make a decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it 
>>>as
>>>a reference to make sure that you have covered the material. The real 
>>>exam
>>>has a few nebulous questions, but not to the extent that the assessment
>>>exams do.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>MLC
>>>   "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>>8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>>   They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. 
>>>No
>>>charge, excellent rescource!
>>> "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>>C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01...
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I
>>>have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Ricardo Ciganda
>>> Dpto. de Sistemas
>>> Bytemaster Servicios Informaticos S.A.
>>>
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Re: Slightly OT: Stable IOS versions, 12.1?

2000-10-18 Thread Dale Holmes

I have seen 12.1(4) work well on a fully stocked 7513 (with FE, SMDS, TR, 
and FDDI).

Of course, YMWV. There is no way to say for sure that it won't take *your* 
backbone out... [=`)

Dale
[=`)


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>Subject: Slightly OT: Stable IOS versions, 12.1?
>Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 07:39:56 -0700 (PDT)
>
>We are currently running 11.2(17) on our 7513 backbone router and we're
>going to be upgrading to 12 in the near future.  After examining  the bug
>reports I initially picked 12.0(12) since it looked pretty stable.  
>However,
>12.0 does not have some nifty features that we like, especially the
>"grep"-like command "include" and the ability to pipe show commands.
>
>We are now putting 12.1(4) on our branch routers (2620s) but I was 
>wondering
>if anyone had any experience, good or bad, with 12.1 on a 7500 series
>router.  We need error-free performance with EIGRP, DLSw+, IP, IPX, WFQ,
>ATM.
>
>I'm a little hesitant to put the latest IOS on our backbone router, but 
>from
>the looks of it, 12.1(4) might be a better choice than 12.0(12), but it
>seems like upgrading the IOS on a Cisco router is a crap shoot; you just
>pray that the bugs of that particular version don't hurt you TOO much.
>
>Ok, I'll quit rambling and go get some more coffee.  Any input will be
>gladly accepted.
>
>-- John
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Re: OT: 5-4-3 rule

2000-10-18 Thread Dale Holmes

>From a document at U Texas:
(http://wwwhost.ots.utexas.edu/ethernet/ch13-ora/ch13.html)

--Begin Quote---
The "5-4-3" Rule

An over-simplified version of the 10 Mbps Model 1 rules, called the "5-4-3" 
rule, has been circulating for some years. Various forms of the 5-4-3 rule 
have been published, and some of them include misleading terms that are 
incorrect. To quote from one widely distributed configuration guide, the 
5-4-3 rule means that there may be as many as five segments connected in 
series in a network. This guide further states that up to four repeaters may 
be used, and up to three "populated segments." A populated segment is 
defined as a segment that is "attached to PCs."

While this may sound like an easy to remember rule of thumb, the "5-4-3" 
rule is an over-simplification of the actual configuration rules described 
above. Worse, the use of the term "populated segment" is misleading. This 
definition means that a coax segment could be regarded as an "unpopulated" 
segment in a network system as long as two conditions were met. First, the 
coax segment was not used to support PCs and, second, the segment was only 
used as a link segment to connect to a repeater at each end. However, this 
is incorrect.

A link segment is specifically defined in the 802.3 standard as a segment 
based on a point-to-point full-duplex media type that connects two--and only 
two--MAUs. A full-duplex medium means that the medium provides separate 
transmit and receive data paths. This is important, since collision 
detection occurs faster on a full-duplex medium than it does on coaxial 
segments. This difference in timing is factored into the total round-trip 
timing delays that are incorporated in the Model 1 configuration guidelines. 
That's why the notion of an "unpopulated" coax segment that could be used as 
a link segment is misleading and incorrect.

To recast the 5-4-3 rule into something closer to reality, we can define it 
to mean that you can have up to five segments in series, with up to four 
repeaters, and no more than three "mixing" segments. If three mixing 
segments are used, then the remaining two segments must be link segments as 
defined in 802.3. Actually, you can have up to four mixing segments under 
some circumstances as described in the real 802.3 rules above, so even our 
corrected 5-4-3 rule is still an over-simplification.
--End Quote---

So, I hope that helps...

Dale
[=`)


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>Using the 5-4-3 rule, why can only 3 segments be populated
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Re: Can't Ping Local Serial Interface of 2610

2000-10-18 Thread Claussen, Ken
Title: Re: Can't Ping Local Serial Interface of 2610





After adding the Frame-relay Map statement, as suggested by several people, I was able to ping the local serial Interface. I then created the interface as a Sub-interface and attempted to use the Frame-relay map command and received the "You should use the Frame-Relay Interface-dlci" command from the router. When the Tnterface-dlci command was applied to the sub-interface (s0/0.1) IP traffic began passing back and forth on the serial link. I also had to add the appropriate static route to the default gateway, as suggested, so other clients on the development network (192.168.1.0) would know where to send traffic destined for the test network (192.168.3.0) or the Intermediate network (192.168.4.0). Routes had already been setup on the routers, but the default gateway did not know about the 192.168.4.0 network until I added the static route. After adding the route all traffic successfully was passed from all clients to the Test network via the intermediate successfully. I understand now why I had to assign the Map statement to the global interface, so that layer Layer 3 knows which layer 2 interface to use, what I am still a little confused about is why the command changes when applied to a sub-interface to Frame-relay interface-dlci instead of Frame Relay Map IP. I appreciate all responses they all helped me to troubleshoot and understand the Frame Relay technology successfully, thank you.


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RE: Is TDM full duplex or half duplex

2000-10-18 Thread Daniel Cotts

TDM to me means T-1 and similar technology. It is full duplex sending
seperate transmit and receive bit streams.

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> Hi everyone,
> Does anyone know if Time Division Multiplexing will work with 
> only half 
> duplexing or only full duplexing or both.  Jeff Lodwick MCSE/CCNA
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RE: Slightly OT: Stable IOS versions, 12.1?

2000-10-18 Thread Daniel Cotts

If you have VIP2-10 or 15s you may need to upgrade the memory on those cards
when updating to 12.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/770/fn4489_05141999.html

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> Subject: Slightly OT: Stable IOS versions, 12.1?
> 
> 
> We are currently running 11.2(17) on our 7513 backbone router 
> and we're
> going to be upgrading to 12 in the near future.  After 
> examining  the bug
> reports I initially picked 12.0(12) since it looked pretty 
> stable.  However,
> 12.0 does not have some nifty features that we like, especially the
> "grep"-like command "include" and the ability to pipe show commands. 
> 
> We are now putting 12.1(4) on our branch routers (2620s) but 
> I was wondering
> if anyone had any experience, good or bad, with 12.1 on a 7500 series
> router.  We need error-free performance with EIGRP, DLSw+, 
> IP, IPX, WFQ,
> ATM.
> 
> I'm a little hesitant to put the latest IOS on our backbone 
> router, but from
> the looks of it, 12.1(4) might be a better choice than 
> 12.0(12), but it
> seems like upgrading the IOS on a Cisco router is a crap 
> shoot; you just
> pray that the bugs of that particular version don't hurt you TOO much.
> 
> Ok, I'll quit rambling and go get some more coffee.  Any input will be
> gladly accepted.
> 
> -- John
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CCSE opportunities

2000-10-18 Thread Dave Ng (Dragon)

You've posted this on the Cisco newsgroup.  You might want to look into the
Check Point newsgroup they're at: news.checkpoint.com   :-)


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Re: [Re: External & Internal BGP]

2000-10-18 Thread Michael Le

Couldn't you also have RB2 route-reflect the info to
RB1?

Mike

--- ElephantChild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 18 Oct 2000, FAISAL ATHAR wrote:
> 
> > Can you please describe this in detail with some
> example.
> 
>   AS64512 AS64513 AS64514
> 10.0.0.0/16 10.1.0.0/16 10.2.0.0/16
> RA1<===>RB1 RB3<===>RC1
>\   /
> RB2
> 
> - means uses an IGP
> = means uses BGP
> 
> In this setup, RB3 can't carry to RC1 the info that
> 10.0.0.0/16 is in AS
> 64512, since the IGP only tells it that RB2 is the
> next hop on the way
> to it. That means that the loop detection feature of
> BGP, and indeed
> most of its path selection mechanisms, is
> unavailable.
> 
> To fix it, you have to make RB1 and RB3 peer
> together, like this:
> 
>   AS64512 AS64513 AS64514
> 10.0.0.0/16 10.1.0.0/16 10.2.0.0/16
> RA1<===>RB1<===>RB3<===>RC1
>\   /
> RB2
> 
> Note that RB2 doesn't need to peer with either RB1
> or RB3, or indeed to
> run BGP at all.
> 
> > ElephantChild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 18 Oct 2000, FAISAL ATHAR wrote:
> > 
> > > Can any one explain the purpose of Internal
> BGP.According to my knowledge
> > it
> > > it used  between sites with in the same
> autonomous system.
> > 
> > True, assuming you mean routers.
> > 
> > > But Question is that BGP is Exterior routing
> protocol,develop mainly to
> > > connect two different  autonomous systems, then
> what is the purpose of
> > Using
> > > Internal BGP, within the same autonomous sytems
> although we could use any
> > > other Interior routing protocol there.
> > 
> > You need internal BGP to carry path information
> between external BGP
> > routers, eg for a transit AS.
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Re: Employment Opportunity

2000-10-18 Thread JLBCisco

As opposed to those UN-certified CCIE's I suppose.

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MPOA Question

2000-10-18 Thread Weiping Mandrawa

Can Ingress and Engress Located on Same Swicth ?
For example
I like Ingress belong to Vlan 1 on Cat A and
Engress belong to Vlan 2 on Cat A and I like to
use MPOA 
Is that Possible ?
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WFQ on X.25, LAPB etc. .....

2000-10-18 Thread Niraj Palikhey

Hi,
Could somebody explain why WFQ is not an option when using X.25, LAPB, 
compressed PPP and SDLC? The Cisco BCRAN book mentions FIFO as the default 
queuing method for the above but not an explanation as to why.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
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Re: BCMSN fill in the blank questions?

2000-10-18 Thread Brad Nixon

The exhibits supply you with a plethora of choices.
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> Does this test have a exhibit box that has choices or is straight from
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Re: CCDA

2000-10-18 Thread Brad Nixon

Alot of case studies. Be prepared to read and take the full two hours.
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Re: Employment Opportunity

2000-10-18 Thread Brian W.

That language seems to imply,"No matter how much you know, if you don't
have the cert, don't bother."

Bri

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Re: Can't Ping Local Serial Interface of 2610

2000-10-18 Thread John Dill

Dear Ken,

Thanks for the followup.  The reason for the change in the frame (dlci) map command is 
related to the fact that it is a point-to-point interface.  Consider further:

The purpose of the frame map statement is to explicitly map the L3 address to a L2 
dlci number.  On a multipoint interface, there may be several dlci numbers in play, so 
the particular dlci must be explicitly paired with a L3 address.  However, on a 
point-to-point sub-interface there is only one dlci number.  Once the dlci is known, 
the router can make the connection by considering the sub-interface's ip address and 
mask.  

If a packet is to be forwarded to the subnet defined by the IP address on a given ptp 
sub-interface, then it is mapped to the single dlci associated with this ptp link.  
All the router needs to know is what dlci is associated with this ptp sub-interface.  
It then has the info it needs to map L3 addresses to that dlci.

HTH,

John

>>> "Claussen, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/18/00 08:42AM >>>
After adding the Frame-relay Map statement, as suggested by several people,
I was able to ping the local serial Interface. I then created the interface
as a Sub-interface and attempted to use the Frame-relay map command and
received the "You should use the Frame-Relay Interface-dlci" command from
the router. When the Tnterface-dlci command was applied to the sub-interface
(s0/0.1) IP traffic began passing back and forth on the serial link. I also
had to add the appropriate static route to the default gateway, as
suggested, so other clients on the development network (192.168.1.0) would
know where to send traffic destined for the test network (192.168.3.0) or
the Intermediate network (192.168.4.0). Routes had already been setup on the
routers, but the default gateway did not know about the 192.168.4.0 network
until I added the static route. After adding the route all traffic
successfully was passed from all clients to the Test network via the
intermediate successfully. I understand now why I had to assign the Map
statement to the global interface, so that layer Layer 3 knows which layer 2
interface to use, what I am still a little confused about is why the command
changes when applied to a sub-interface to Frame-relay interface-dlci
instead of Frame Relay Map IP. I appreciate all responses they all helped me
to troubleshoot and understand the Frame Relay technology successfully,
thank you.


Ken Claussen MCSE CCA CCNA
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Should be easy VPN

2000-10-18 Thread Parris, Brian



I am using a PIX for a VPN Solution in my SOHO.  I am using PPTP
because that is the easy way out.  After a lengthy struggle, I can finally
take a Windows NT laptop and dial into an ISP and then use RAS to connect
and authenticate on my PIX via PPTP.

My PIX issues my laptop an IP address from the local pool.  My local
pool is issuing a portion of addresses that I have omitted from DHCP on my
LAN.  When I do an IPCONFIG on my laptop I can see the IP address issued
from the ISP and the IP address issued from the PIX.


Here's the problem:  I can't ping anything on my LAN including my
"Inside" port from my laptop.  When I telnet from my LAN into my PIX, I
can't ping my laptop,  But I can ping the address on the laptop that was
issued by the ISP.  When I do a "show vpdn", I see an active tunnel but the
only IP address I see is the one on the laptop from the ISP.  

Can anybody explain to me why the PIX would not be routing the IP address
that it issued to the laptop across the inside and outside ports.


TIA,
Brian Parris
Network/Systems Administrator
www.carotek.com

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Re: Employment Opportunity

2000-10-18 Thread Kevin Wigle

which might not sound as bad as it feels (or hurts).

If they are Silver or Gold partners they need CCIEs to either keep their
discounts or to get more.  To keep their status (if someone left) or to
upgrade it.

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP

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> That language seems to imply,"No matter how much you know, if you don't
> have the cert, don't bother."
>
> Bri
>
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>
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RE: Juniper

2000-10-18 Thread Claudia Pereyra

...well, this mail was a long time ago, but you are right: the foot print in 
this context is the image's size in memory.
C.

>From: Rayappa Mayakunthala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: "'Casey Fahey'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Juniper
>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:40:12 +0530
>
>Wait a minute, I had a different understanding of "foot print" in software.
>Foot print in software is the size of the image to be loaded. Are you sure
>that "foot print" here is not referring to the size of the image of the
>IOS/JUNOS?
>
>Cheers,
>   Rayappa.
>
>
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 4:29 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Juniper
>
>
>
>A footprint is the amount of floor space the device takes up.  Smaller is
>often better, especially in a crowded lab or service bureau.
>
>As to which is better, that depends on what criteria you are applying.
>Generally speaking, Juniper equipment is considered to be comparable to and
>in some cases better than similar Cisco routers in terms of performance.
>You will typically get more bang-for-the-buck with Juniper.
>
>OTOH, there is a much smaller population of Juniper-jockeys and therefore
>there will be a learning curve with the product.  "Nobody ever got fired 
>for
>
>buying Cisco...".  In addition, Cisco has a more diverse and extensive
>product base, so it is possible in many cases to have an all-Cisco shop,
>thus saving on training and related expenses.
>
>BTW, Juniper focuses exclusively at the high-end (ATM switches, etc.).
>AFAIK, Juniper does not field any workgroup type products.
>
>HTH,
>
>Casey
>
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Re: diff b/w BSCN and BCMSN?

2000-10-18 Thread Brad Nixon

Try looking at the course outlines.
http://cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.html
"deltan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Could anyone tell me the differences between BSCN and
> BCMSN in terms of coverage for switching and routing
> etc?
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> Any more details would be highly appreciated.
>
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Can you say Studying Simple Silly Certs Stinks

2000-10-18 Thread Terrence Garrison

I think I am noticing that CCNA, CCNP and CCIE
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OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface

2000-10-18 Thread John Deatherage

If I add a loopback interface to a router, when will the router take it as
the router ID?  Here's a scenario:

Serial2/1 is the current router ID: 209.1.1.1

I add Loopback0, which is 10.0.0.1

Shouldn't the router take this as its router ID?  When does this happen?
Doing:

clear ip ospf process

Still shows the old router ID.  Is there any way to force the router to take
the ID from the loopback interface?  On another router, I couldn't get it to
change until after reload.

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Re: BCMSN fill in the blank questions?

2000-10-18 Thread Tim Harkin

I took the test on October 12, and I had 2 fill-in-the-blanks straight from 
memory.


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RE: 2 line: the best solution ?

2000-10-18 Thread Cristi Piatnitchi

Hi all

First,thanks for your help.

I have studied the CISCO docs but no results

These are the two routing lines for my routers

ip route 10.2.44.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.39.98 90
ip route 10.2.44.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.38.98 100

 It worth saying that the backup line is always up.It caries voice also.
Does  the backup config work even for frame relay links (one of my serials
could be a FR link)
1) I want to ask you if the routes should have the same cost ?
2) Shall I configure the router from the other end with backup config too ?
3) How does it work this configs ? I don't understand if both links will
work in the same time when the first one reaches the level specified in:

backup load 70 50

70 means that the second line is activated at 70% of the main line
50 means that the second line is deactivated at 50% of the main line

Thans in advance for help
Please see below for scheme



On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 15:54:33 +0200, Andrew Larkins wrote:

>  backup interface does not just refer to dialup. It is a common practice
to
>  use this kind of dialup backup as it is cheaper.
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Cristi Piatnitchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  Sent: 18 October 2000 14:56
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: 2 line: the best solution ?
>  
>  
>  Hi all
>  
>  I have 2 leased line (64kb) one of them working with voice and data and
the
>  other one just with data. 2 Cisco routers. I want to set-up these lines
to
>  work toghether. Which one is the best solution:
>  
> router -  router
>  | |
>  \-->Multiplexor--Multiplexor^  ^
>|  |
>|  |
>  voice voice 
>  
>  -load balancing (with EIGRP)
>  -splitting the traffic using queues
>  -it is possible (as somebody from this list already sugested me) to setup
>  the second line (voice/data) as a backup line for the first one even
though
>  there is no dial-up ? (I understood that  this command (back-up) is for a
>  dialu-up backup line.
>  -is there a solution to separate the traffic so than the request to go
>  trough a line and the response to the same request to arive on the second
>  line ? (u know, to separate upload/download traffic)
>  
>  Any other idees ?
>  
>  Thanks in advance
>  Cristian
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BSCN

2000-10-18 Thread George . Adewale

Hi guys Has any one read this book for his Exams, how good is it 
Building Scalable Cisco Networks 
by Thomas M. Thomas II  Tan Nam-Kee 
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Re: Token ring and duplex

2000-10-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

It's not "real" token ring. &;-) Seriously. Full-duplex Ethernet isn't real 
CSMA/CD either.

The more we learn, the less we know! Argh.

Priscilla

At 08:36 AM 10/18/00, Ejay Hire wrote:
>Okay,now I'm Confuzzled.  A Token ring Frame is timed so that the first 
>bit of a MTU sized frame returns to the Sending station immediately after 
>the last bit was transmitted.  Then It checks the error/received bits and 
>strips it off the ring.  How could it work full duplex unless there were 
>two tokens on the ring?
>
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>Subject: Re: Token ring and duplex
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>
>The Dedicated Token Ring port adapter (PA-4R-DTR) is available on Cisco
>7500 series routers, Cisco 7200 series routers, and Cisco 7000 series
>routers with the 7000 Series Route Switch Processor (RSP7000) and 7000
>Series Chassis Interface (RSP7000CI).
>
>The PA-4R-DTR provides up to four IBM Token Ring or IEEE 802.5 Token Ring
>interfaces. Each Token Ring interface can be set for 4 Mbps or 16 Mbps
>half-duplex or full-duplex operation and can operate as a standard Token
>Ring station or as a concentrator port. The default for all interfaces is
>Token Ring station mode with half-duplex 16-Mbps operation. The PA-4R-DTR
>connects over Type 1 lobe or Type 3 lobe cables, with each interface
>providing an RJ-45 receptacle.
>
>So, Token Ring does have a "full-duplex" operation. I guess you would use
>it on back-to-back links, just like you use full-duplex Ethernet on
>back-to-back links.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 05:13 PM 10/17/00, Ejay Hire wrote:
>>Full-Duplex/Half-Duplex settings do not apply in a Token ring environment.
>>
>>Duplex settings deterrmine whether or not a system can recieve and
>>transmit at the smae time in a CSMA/_C_ollision _D_etect (Ethernet)
>>environment.
>>Token Ring Does not use CSMA/CD, but use token-passing instead.
>>
>>On a Token Ring network, only one system transmits at a time, all of the
>>others listen.
>>
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>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:07:16 GMT
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>>If a token ring is running at a speed of 16, should the duplex be full or
>>half.  If it's at half, what may be some problems as a result of it.
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Re: ATM & CDP

2000-10-18 Thread Kevin Wigle

depends on how you're set up.

on the interface:

 map-group 1

in global config:

map-list 1
 ip 198.103.x.x atm-vc 1 broadcast  <== next hop

should get you pingable

but if you're using sub-interfaces then:

on the interface:

interface ATM1/0.2 point-to-point
 ip address 198.103.x.x 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 atm pvc 2 0 172 aal5snap 1 1

it just doesn't happen by putting an address on the interface.

also, remember that ATM passes cells, if you want to get ip stats from it
then you will have to make a BVI. Here is an example on one of our lab
routers.

LabR05#sh ip arp
Protocol  Address  Age (min)  Hardware Addr   Type   Interface
Internet  198.103.x.x  -   00e0.b03f.fc40  ARPA   Ethernet2/0
Internet  198.103.x.x 65   0800.2bb3.19b5  ARPA   Ethernet2/0
Internet  198.103.x.x   -   00e0.b03f.fc41  ARPA   Ethernet2/1
Internet  198.103.x.x  1   .0c3f.026b  ARPA   Ethernet2/0
Internet  198.103.x.x  -   .0c49.2958  ARPA   BVI1
Internet  198.103.x.x207   0050.7338.7401  ARPA   BVI1
Internet  198.103.x.x   7   0010.5a89.bbdf  ARPA   Ethernet2/0
Internet  198.103.x.x  1   .b450.4554  ARPA   Ethernet2/0
Internet  198.103.x.x  2   0060.089e.09f0  ARPA   Ethernet2/0
Internet  198.103.x.x  1   00e0.14cc.6300  ARPA   Ethernet2/0
Internet  198.103.x.x   0   0800.2085.7c7a  ARPA   Ethernet2/0

here you can see that the BVI definitely responds to IP.

hope this gives you a few ideas.

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP...

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Subject: ATM & CDP


> I have a Cisco router connected to a Cisco LightStream 1010 ATM switch.
>  The 'sh int atm 1/0' command shows that the interface and line
> protocol are up, but I can't ping what I thought was the IP address of
> the switch's ATM interface(10.11.1.2/24).  I know the IP address of the
> ATM interface on the router (10.11.1.1/24), but I can't figure out the
> IP address of the switch's ATM interface.  Would this address normally
> show up in the 'show cdp neighbors' command?  The output of that
> command shows nothing for the ATM interface.  In the 'sh ip arp'
> command, there are only Ethernet entries, none for ATM.  Also, can you
> ping over ATM?  Obviously I don't know a whole lot about ATM, but I'd
> appreciate any help anyone can offer.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: Can you say Studying Simple Silly Certs Stinks

2000-10-18 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

There may be some truth to what you're saying, but the certifications
certainly will continue to have an impact on that person's starting salary.


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Can you say Studying Simple Silly Certs Stinks

2000-10-18 Thread Terrence Garrison

I think I am noticing that CCNA, CCNP and CCIE
are of less and less importance because there
is such a short supply of people, employers no
better than to ask for a cert ? What do you guys think ?
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RE: 2 line: the best solution ?

2000-10-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Have you considered putting voice on one of the links and data on the 
other? If you mix voice and data on the same 64-Kbps link, you may have too 
much delay for the voice.

On slow links, serialization delay is a significant factor. Let's say 
someone starts an FTP transfer at the same time the president of the 
company starts a voice over IP (is that what you use?) call to the company 
executives. FTP uses 1500 byte packets. While the serial port it outputting 
a 1500-byte packet, (which would take 188 milliseconds), your voice packet 
is waiting. Since one-way delay is only supposed to be 200 milliseconds for 
voice, you're already in trouble.

You could use fragmentation to chop up the 1500-byte packets. Both PPP and 
Frame Relay support data-link-layer fragmentation. (not sure what you have)

You may want to study your traffic a bit more before designing a solution

Priscilla


>-Original Message-
>From: Cristi Piatnitchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 18 October 2000 14:56
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: 2 line: the best solution ?
>
>
>Hi all
>
>I have 2 leased line (64kb) one of them working with voice and data and the
>other one just with data. 2 Cisco routers. I want to set-up these lines to
>work toghether. Which one is the best solution:
>
>router -  router
>| |
>\-->Multiplexor--Multiplexor   ^  ^
>   |  |
>   |  |
> voice voice
>
>-load balancing (with EIGRP)
>-splitting the traffic using queues
>-it is possible (as somebody from this list already sugested me) to setup
>the second line (voice/data) as a backup line for the first one even though
>there is no dial-up ? (I understood that  this command (back-up) is for a
>dialu-up backup line.
>-is there a solution to separate the traffic so than the request to go
>trough a line and the response to the same request to arive on the second
>line ? (u know, to separate upload/download traffic)
>
>Any other idees ?
>
>Thanks in advance
>Cristian




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RE: Can you say Studying Simple Silly Certs Stinks

2000-10-18 Thread William E Gragido

I think I am noticing that CCNA, CCNP and CCIE
> are of less and less importance because there
> is such a short supply of people,


I am sorry Terrence, but I would suggest you do your homework on this one,
many employers won't even talk to you without those certs.

 employers no better than to ask for a cert ? What do you guys think ?

I think you are looking at the wrong friggin job sites and speaking to the
wrong recruiters.  Does this mean that noncertified people don't know as
much?  No, I don't believe so, however the Certification acts as a
recognized symbol of your knowledge or a representation therein.  My
suggestion, get the certs, it won't hurt you one bit.  Got change from my
two cents?

Will Gragido
CCNA, CCDA, MCP
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RE: CCDA

2000-10-18 Thread William E Gragido

I would when I took it, I think I went for fifty minutes, and felt as though
I rushed a little on the way.  Those case studies are tedious yet necessary.

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> Alot of case studies. Be prepared to read and take the full two hours.
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RE: Practicing Dentist at 21 years old

2000-10-18 Thread Terrence Garrison

No...lets talk about Lucent and Nortel


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>To: "'CCNP_CCDP'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Practicing Dentist at 21 years old
>Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 12:03:13 -0700
>
>I apologize for the rants...
>
>let's drop it and talk about Cisco.
>
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>Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 11:09 AM
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>Subject: RE: Practicing Dentist at 21 years old
>
>
>Uh, you're the one wanted to dental.  I can arrange it but I think it's
>gonna cost you more then your dental insurance since you seem to doubt I
>know such a person.  I am not bragging that I know this person.  I simply
>posted that I did and you were the one that seem to have a good time
>disrespecting him.  I responded in kind to you.
>
>Now, don't bother me anymore little boy cause the filter is in place with
>your name on it.
>
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>Yup, just as I thought...
>
>
> > Sure, send me your address and I will take care of everything.
> >
> >
> > Adam,
> > I live in California and I do have dental insurance,
> > and I'm looking to change dentists.  So please
> > tell me how I can get an appointment.  Since you
> > are offering his services, telling me to "drop by",
> > I'll take you up on it.  I hope this is for real and
> > you didn't make the whole thing up.
> >
> >
> > Please hurry because I have a toothache!
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > CCNP, he charges full price and if you have any
> > > coverage, drop on by.  As a matter of fact, he works
> > > at clinics too(as most dentists do) so if you have no
> > > insurance you can still drop on by!
> > >
> >
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Re: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface

2000-10-18 Thread Patrick Thoma

John,

It depends on which IOS version you use. In later images you will need
to either reboot or to remove the process and readd it.
I do not quite remember when this behavior changed.

Rgds,

Patrick

John Deatherage wrote:

> If I add a loopback interface to a router, when will the router take it as
> the router ID?  Here's a scenario:
>
> Serial2/1 is the current router ID: 209.1.1.1
>
> I add Loopback0, which is 10.0.0.1
>
> Shouldn't the router take this as its router ID?  When does this happen?
> Doing:
>
> clear ip ospf process
>
> Still shows the old router ID.  Is there any way to force the router to take
> the ID from the loopback interface?  On another router, I couldn't get it to
> change until after reload.
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RE: Token ring and duplex

2000-10-18 Thread Louie Belt

With Token Ring 802.5r (and a capable switch) each token ring connection
becomes it's own ring utilizing full duplex to accomplish this.

Louie

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conceive of the source of wealth or of the motivation of those who produce
it.
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Subject: Re: Token ring and duplex


It's not "real" token ring. &;-) Seriously. Full-duplex Ethernet isn't real
CSMA/CD either.

The more we learn, the less we know! Argh.

Priscilla

At 08:36 AM 10/18/00, Ejay Hire wrote:
>Okay,now I'm Confuzzled.  A Token ring Frame is timed so that the first
>bit of a MTU sized frame returns to the Sending station immediately after
>the last bit was transmitted.  Then It checks the error/received bits and
>strips it off the ring.  How could it work full duplex unless there were
>two tokens on the ring?
>
>Original Message Follows
>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Token ring and duplex
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:59:22 -0700
>
>The Dedicated Token Ring port adapter (PA-4R-DTR) is available on Cisco
>7500 series routers, Cisco 7200 series routers, and Cisco 7000 series
>routers with the 7000 Series Route Switch Processor (RSP7000) and 7000
>Series Chassis Interface (RSP7000CI).
>
>The PA-4R-DTR provides up to four IBM Token Ring or IEEE 802.5 Token Ring
>interfaces. Each Token Ring interface can be set for 4 Mbps or 16 Mbps
>half-duplex or full-duplex operation and can operate as a standard Token
>Ring station or as a concentrator port. The default for all interfaces is
>Token Ring station mode with half-duplex 16-Mbps operation. The PA-4R-DTR
>connects over Type 1 lobe or Type 3 lobe cables, with each interface
>providing an RJ-45 receptacle.
>
>So, Token Ring does have a "full-duplex" operation. I guess you would use
>it on back-to-back links, just like you use full-duplex Ethernet on
>back-to-back links.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 05:13 PM 10/17/00, Ejay Hire wrote:
>>Full-Duplex/Half-Duplex settings do not apply in a Token ring environment.
>>
>>Duplex settings deterrmine whether or not a system can recieve and
>>transmit at the smae time in a CSMA/_C_ollision _D_etect (Ethernet)
>>environment.
>>Token Ring Does not use CSMA/CD, but use token-passing instead.
>>
>>On a Token Ring network, only one system transmits at a time, all of the
>>others listen.
>>
>>
>>Original Message Follows
>>From: "SH Wesson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "SH Wesson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Token ring and duplex
>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:07:16 GMT
>>
>>If a token ring is running at a speed of 16, should the duplex be full or
>>half.  If it's at half, what may be some problems as a result of it.
>>thanks.
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Re: Employment Opportunity

2000-10-18 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

It will be great maybe they could ask them some tech questions too.
Duck
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Re: [Re: Employment Opportunity]

2000-10-18 Thread Petra Hofmann

Why would anyone even reply to an individual who doesn't even understand the
certification??

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Re: BSCN

2000-10-18 Thread Daniel Boutet

If you go back a few days (starting Saturday morning) I have made a few
comments on the same book.
So far, on my first read, it doesn't rate very high. As far as a study guide
for the BSCN exam I would not count on it.
I know I will be using Internet Routing  Architecture by Halabi (Second
Edition) for BGP and at least Jeff Doyle's
"bible" on TCP/IP for OSPF

I am half way through chapter 8 (bgp) and it is good for an intro to bgp. I
did like the "intro" to OSPF also from chapter
5 and 6.  But this is all I will call it "an intro".
It lacks way too much "flow" and there is not nearly enough diagram/example
of real configuration.
However ther is a very good description of the output of the "show commands"
for OSPF.

Just a man's point of view!

Daniel

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RE: Token ring and duplex

2000-10-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 01:18 PM 10/18/00, Louie Belt wrote:

> Since time immemorial and pre-industrial, 'greed' has been the 
> accusation
>hurled at the rich by the concrete-bound illiterates who were unable to
>conceive of the source of wealth or of the motivation of those who produce
>it.
> -- Ayn Rand

Could we change this to: Since time immemorial and pre-industrial, "silly" 
has been the accusation hurled at the knowledgeable by the concrete-bound 
illiterates who were unable to conceive of the source of Cisco 
certification or the motivation of those who seek it.

Couldn't resist. &;-)

Priscilla




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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 12:47 PM
>To: Ejay Hire; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Token ring and duplex
>
>
>It's not "real" token ring. &;-) Seriously. Full-duplex Ethernet isn't real
>CSMA/CD either.
>
>The more we learn, the less we know! Argh.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 08:36 AM 10/18/00, Ejay Hire wrote:
> >Okay,now I'm Confuzzled.  A Token ring Frame is timed so that the first
> >bit of a MTU sized frame returns to the Sending station immediately after
> >the last bit was transmitted.  Then It checks the error/received bits and
> >strips it off the ring.  How could it work full duplex unless there were
> >two tokens on the ring?
> >
> >Original Message Follows
> >From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Token ring and duplex
> >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:59:22 -0700
> >
> >The Dedicated Token Ring port adapter (PA-4R-DTR) is available on Cisco
> >7500 series routers, Cisco 7200 series routers, and Cisco 7000 series
> >routers with the 7000 Series Route Switch Processor (RSP7000) and 7000
> >Series Chassis Interface (RSP7000CI).
> >
> >The PA-4R-DTR provides up to four IBM Token Ring or IEEE 802.5 Token Ring
> >interfaces. Each Token Ring interface can be set for 4 Mbps or 16 Mbps
> >half-duplex or full-duplex operation and can operate as a standard Token
> >Ring station or as a concentrator port. The default for all interfaces is
> >Token Ring station mode with half-duplex 16-Mbps operation. The PA-4R-DTR
> >connects over Type 1 lobe or Type 3 lobe cables, with each interface
> >providing an RJ-45 receptacle.
> >
> >So, Token Ring does have a "full-duplex" operation. I guess you would use
> >it on back-to-back links, just like you use full-duplex Ethernet on
> >back-to-back links.
> >
> >Priscilla
> >
> >At 05:13 PM 10/17/00, Ejay Hire wrote:
> >>Full-Duplex/Half-Duplex settings do not apply in a Token ring environment.
> >>
> >>Duplex settings deterrmine whether or not a system can recieve and
> >>transmit at the smae time in a CSMA/_C_ollision _D_etect (Ethernet)
> >>environment.
> >>Token Ring Does not use CSMA/CD, but use token-passing instead.
> >>
> >>On a Token Ring network, only one system transmits at a time, all of the
> >>others listen.
> >>
> >>
> >>Original Message Follows
> >>From: "SH Wesson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: "SH Wesson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Token ring and duplex
> >>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:07:16 GMT
> >>
> >>If a token ring is running at a speed of 16, should the duplex be full or
> >>half.  If it's at half, what may be some problems as a result of it.
> >>thanks.
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Re: Can you say Studying Simple Silly Certs Stinks

2000-10-18 Thread Kevin Wigle

nope, can't say that I agree.

perhaps CCNA "if" recruiters/hr people finally wake up and see that CCNA is
an entry level cert (just talked about here lately)

but CCNP/CCDP/CCIE certs are still being sought for various reasons.  Cisco
partners especially need certified people.

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP.. maybe a bit biased :-)

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> I think I am noticing that CCNA, CCNP and CCIE
> are of less and less importance because there
> is such a short supply of people, employers no
> better than to ask for a cert ? What do you guys think ?
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Re: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface

2000-10-18 Thread Ejay Hire

No, It's the highest Ip on the router.


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:15:27 -0700

If I add a loopback interface to a router, when will the router take it as
the router ID?  Here's a scenario:

Serial2/1 is the current router ID: 209.1.1.1

I add Loopback0, which is 10.0.0.1

Shouldn't the router take this as its router ID?  When does this happen?
Doing:

clear ip ospf process

Still shows the old router ID.  Is there any way to force the router to take
the ID from the loopback interface?  On another router, I couldn't get it to
change until after reload.

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Re: Token ring and duplex

2000-10-18 Thread Ejay Hire

That's it, I quit.  Where are my tire changing tools?


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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Token ring and duplex
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:46:55 -0700

It's not "real" token ring. &;-) Seriously. Full-duplex Ethernet isn't real
CSMA/CD either.

The more we learn, the less we know! Argh.

Priscilla

At 08:36 AM 10/18/00, Ejay Hire wrote:
>Okay,now I'm Confuzzled.  A Token ring Frame is timed so that the first
>bit of a MTU sized frame returns to the Sending station immediately after
>the last bit was transmitted.  Then It checks the error/received bits and
>strips it off the ring.  How could it work full duplex unless there were
>two tokens on the ring?
>
>Original Message Follows
>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Token ring and duplex
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:59:22 -0700
>
>The Dedicated Token Ring port adapter (PA-4R-DTR) is available on Cisco
>7500 series routers, Cisco 7200 series routers, and Cisco 7000 series
>routers with the 7000 Series Route Switch Processor (RSP7000) and 7000
>Series Chassis Interface (RSP7000CI).
>
>The PA-4R-DTR provides up to four IBM Token Ring or IEEE 802.5 Token Ring
>interfaces. Each Token Ring interface can be set for 4 Mbps or 16 Mbps
>half-duplex or full-duplex operation and can operate as a standard Token
>Ring station or as a concentrator port. The default for all interfaces is
>Token Ring station mode with half-duplex 16-Mbps operation. The PA-4R-DTR
>connects over Type 1 lobe or Type 3 lobe cables, with each interface
>providing an RJ-45 receptacle.
>
>So, Token Ring does have a "full-duplex" operation. I guess you would use
>it on back-to-back links, just like you use full-duplex Ethernet on
>back-to-back links.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 05:13 PM 10/17/00, Ejay Hire wrote:
>>Full-Duplex/Half-Duplex settings do not apply in a Token ring environment.
>>
>>Duplex settings deterrmine whether or not a system can recieve and
>>transmit at the smae time in a CSMA/_C_ollision _D_etect (Ethernet)
>>environment.
>>Token Ring Does not use CSMA/CD, but use token-passing instead.
>>
>>On a Token Ring network, only one system transmits at a time, all of the
>>others listen.
>>
>>
>>Original Message Follows
>>From: "SH Wesson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "SH Wesson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Token ring and duplex
>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:07:16 GMT
>>
>>If a token ring is running at a speed of 16, should the duplex be full or
>>half.  If it's at half, what may be some problems as a result of it.
>>thanks.
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2000-10-18 Thread cwcollins

Hello Everyone,
I know I have seen a CCNP logo.
Does andybody have it or know where I get it.
Thanks for your help.

Chuck Collins
CCNP

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RE: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface

2000-10-18 Thread Louie Belt

It will take the loopback address as it's ID, even if it is not the highest
IP address on the router.  Loopbacks take precedence over higher IP's with
respect to Router ID's for OSPF.  You will have to reboot your router for
this change to be reflected.  Once an ID is chosen, it will keep that ID
regardless of changes until the router is rebooted.

Louie




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No, It's the highest Ip on the router.


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Subject: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:15:27 -0700

If I add a loopback interface to a router, when will the router take it as
the router ID?  Here's a scenario:

Serial2/1 is the current router ID: 209.1.1.1

I add Loopback0, which is 10.0.0.1

Shouldn't the router take this as its router ID?  When does this happen?
Doing:

clear ip ospf process

Still shows the old router ID.  Is there any way to force the router to take
the ID from the loopback interface?  On another router, I couldn't get it to
change until after reload.

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COLT tests + CCDA

2000-10-18 Thread Lance Hubbard


http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/colt/ColtLogin.pl

have fun.

BTW, just got back from taking the CCDA.Passed, but those Case studies 
had me squirming in my chair! ;^)

Cheers,

Lance

>From: "Niraj Palikhey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: COLT tests
>Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:00:23 EDT
>
>How would I take the Colt tests? Are these the same practise tests on the 
>Cisco web site that is for registered CCO users? I forget the url but does 
>anyone know the url? I would appreciate it.
>Thank you.
>
>
>
>>From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: COLT tests
>>Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 06:38:42 PDT
>>
>>Yes, If the COLT tests were tires, I'm afraid they would be Firestone
>>Wilderness series...complete with the deflating effect
>>
>>(Sorry, couldn't help it).
>>
>>Lance
>>
>>
>>>From: "Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: COLT tests
>>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:46:10 CDT
>>>
>>>Thank God its not just me.  I took 2 of the Colts as a pre-assesment for
>>>taking BCSN, and thought I had no chance of ever passing the real thing 
>>>and
>>>should learn to change tires instead!!  I feel a lot better knowing that
>>>they really are as awful as I thought they were.
>>>
>>>Whew!
>>>-Ejay
>>>
>>>
>>>Original Message Follows
>>>From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: COLT tests
>>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 06:27:34 PDT
>>>
>>>I think I have to agree.
>>>
>>>I took the CCDA COLT test yesterday, and to my dismay, despite using the
>>>book for occational referance I missed 12 out of 52.  The questions I
>>>missed
>>>were many of the questions I looked up in the book (DCN Cisco Press).  
>>>The
>>>test contradicts the book often, and several times questions have 
>>>multiple
>>>correct answers, not in which there is a "best answer" but there are
>>>literaly several 100% correct answers for each question, and you are
>>>allowed
>>>to pick just one.  It did open my eyes to some problem areas for me, but
>>>this is not a route I would go for legitimate readiness evaluation.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Lance
>>>
>>>
From: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "michael champion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: COLT tests
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:43:56 -0500

COLT testsMy opinion of them is that they only confuse the issue. I
counted
over 15 questions on the CIT-Pre exam that either had no correct answers
listed or had wrong answers; I even took the test OPEN-BOOK to try to 
get
through it. There is a very good reason that these questions are not on
the
real exam (badly-worded questions, no correct choices, nebulous 
questions,
badly-worded answers, questions so detailed and obscure that they 
require
a
Cisco white paper or field notice to answer, etc.), and no one has made
any
attempt to improve them. What is amazing about some of them is that they
are direct mis-quotes from some of the Cisco-Press books, and some were
paraphrased incorrectly and unintentionally changed the meaning. It is 
my
belief that these questions were not written by Cisco but rather some
hired
third-party who didn't understand the material they were asking about
(let's hope that this is the case, or else they are a real embarrassment
to
Cisco!). I had to inform Cisco that the CIT-8/28 exam wasn't even 
showing
the gifs (they have since fixed that at least). Don't use this resourse 
to
make a decision on whether you are ready for the real exam, just use it 
as
a reference to make sure that you have covered the material. The real 
exam
has a few nebulous questions, but not to the extent that the assessment
exams do.

Regards,
MLC
   "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8shead$gfk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   They are practice beta exams that are avaialable to cco login users. 
No
charge, excellent rescource!
 "Ricardo Ciganda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01">news:C3CBB71D56E4D3119C9C00902727B15C1A21B9@bmnt01...
 Hi all!

 I would like to know what is the finality of the COLT tests. May I
have to paid for this or is only a simulation of a test?

 Thanks in advance.

 Ricardo Ciganda
 Dpto. de Sistemas
 Bytemaster Servicios Informaticos S.A.

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Re: BCMSN fill in the blank questions?

2000-10-18 Thread STRAND Scott

Actually BCMSN does not supply you with an exhibit to choose commands from. (BCRAN is 
the test that supplies the exhibit). I passed
BCMSN in late August, BCMSN only had a few fill in the blank questions and they were 
not difficult.

--Scott

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RE: Token ring and duplex

2000-10-18 Thread Carl Mirsky

Just Call 1-800-USTRUCK.  You TOO can become an over the road truck driver.
No Experience Necessary.  Will Train.  Obtain the CTIE (Certified Trucking
Interstate Expert)  ;-)


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That's it, I quit.  Where are my tire changing tools?


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Subject: Re: Token ring and duplex
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:46:55 -0700

It's not "real" token ring. &;-) Seriously. Full-duplex Ethernet isn't real
CSMA/CD either.

The more we learn, the less we know! Argh.

Priscilla

At 08:36 AM 10/18/00, Ejay Hire wrote:
>Okay,now I'm Confuzzled.  A Token ring Frame is timed so that the first
>bit of a MTU sized frame returns to the Sending station immediately after
>the last bit was transmitted.  Then It checks the error/received bits and
>strips it off the ring.  How could it work full duplex unless there were
>two tokens on the ring?
>
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>Subject: Re: Token ring and duplex
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:59:22 -0700
>
>The Dedicated Token Ring port adapter (PA-4R-DTR) is available on Cisco
>7500 series routers, Cisco 7200 series routers, and Cisco 7000 series
>routers with the 7000 Series Route Switch Processor (RSP7000) and 7000
>Series Chassis Interface (RSP7000CI).
>
>The PA-4R-DTR provides up to four IBM Token Ring or IEEE 802.5 Token Ring
>interfaces. Each Token Ring interface can be set for 4 Mbps or 16 Mbps
>half-duplex or full-duplex operation and can operate as a standard Token
>Ring station or as a concentrator port. The default for all interfaces is
>Token Ring station mode with half-duplex 16-Mbps operation. The PA-4R-DTR
>connects over Type 1 lobe or Type 3 lobe cables, with each interface
>providing an RJ-45 receptacle.
>
>So, Token Ring does have a "full-duplex" operation. I guess you would use
>it on back-to-back links, just like you use full-duplex Ethernet on
>back-to-back links.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 05:13 PM 10/17/00, Ejay Hire wrote:
>>Full-Duplex/Half-Duplex settings do not apply in a Token ring environment.
>>
>>Duplex settings deterrmine whether or not a system can recieve and
>>transmit at the smae time in a CSMA/_C_ollision _D_etect (Ethernet)
>>environment.
>>Token Ring Does not use CSMA/CD, but use token-passing instead.
>>
>>On a Token Ring network, only one system transmits at a time, all of the
>>others listen.
>>
>>
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>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:07:16 GMT
>>
>>If a token ring is running at a speed of 16, should the duplex be full or
>>half.  If it's at half, what may be some problems as a result of it.
>>thanks.
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Re: Can you say Studying Simple Silly Certs Stinks

2000-10-18 Thread Terrence Garrison

Well,

Logically what you all are saying makes sense.
A cert can't hurt. But if you go to monster
board and type in a cert, (say CCNP or CCIE)
versus typing in Cisco ; you will find many
more jobs that require the skill with no mention
of the certification. An when I talk to recruiters,
rarely do they mention anything about certification.
I have friends that are recruiters and they
don't know anything about certifications. If I'm
looking in the wrong places, where do I go to
find value for my Cisco certification and experience.
Which job sites, which companies, et cetera ?


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>Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 14:50:58 -0400
>
>nope, can't say that I agree.
>
>perhaps CCNA "if" recruiters/hr people finally wake up and see that CCNA is
>an entry level cert (just talked about here lately)
>
>but CCNP/CCDP/CCIE certs are still being sought for various reasons.  Cisco
>partners especially need certified people.
>
>Kevin Wigle
>CCDP/CCNP.. maybe a bit biased :-)
>
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> > I think I am noticing that CCNA, CCNP and CCIE
> > are of less and less importance because there
> > is such a short supply of people, employers no
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RE: BSCN

2000-10-18 Thread Mike Emigh


I would recommend getting another book. This is first edition, and full of
errors. Also, the book lacks explanation in some areas (gets confusing).
What really bothers me the most about it is the fact that the IOS commands
they show sometimes are wrong!

Mike
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Hi guys Has any one read this book for his Exams, how good is it
Building Scalable Cisco Networks
by Thomas M. Thomas II  Tan Nam-Kee
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Re: appletalk on catalyst 5500 problem

2000-10-18 Thread David Visick

Thank you to everyone who took the time to make suggestions.  I seem 
to have fixed the problem, but I can't pinpoint exactly which command 
or configuration change worked the magic.

As you suggested, I made sure that portfast was on, port channel was 
off, and that the ports were not set to trunk and the problem still 
persisted.  The next step I took was to make sure the ports broadcast 
limit was at 100%(set port broadcast  
[%]).  By default this should have, and apparently was, 
already set to 100%.  But after I manually typed in the command the 
problem went away.  And the real mindtwister is that the problem went 
away on ALL of the affected Macs in that VLAN(including on an 
upstream switch), not only the Mac on the interface I had specified. 
I'm guessing that something must have propagated all the way to the 
RSM.

When the Macs boot up now they still get a window that says "Your 
AppleTalk network has become available".  But it's just an FYI 
message.  It doesn't require you to go into the AppleTalk control 
panel.

Thank you for taking the time to write back,

Dave


>Hi again,
>
>A few last points before I sign off for the night:
>
>1) You do indeed have to ask your users to pay attention to the 
>error message and do as it says (open and close the Control Panel). 
>The person who told me it was just an FYI message was forgetting the 
>reality of working with AppleTalk. (It was my husband, who was 
>actually one of the creators of AppleTalk. He tends to forget bad 
>things about it. Just kidding.)
>
>2) The Apple white paper is indeed very vague about a real solution 
>to the problem. &;-) But the solution is that you have to tweak the 
>spanning tree parameters so that the switch ports don't take so long 
>to start forwarding packets. Bottom line: the router's (RSM's) 
>packets aren't getting through in time to the end nodes so they 
>think they are on an isolated network. Then when they finally hear 
>from the router, they put up that annoying message. Another solution 
>would be to upgrade to Mac OS X, it sounds like?! ;-]
>
>3) Having multiple seed routers is not a problem. (Even if you had 
>multiple seed routers, I mean, it wouldn't be a problem. Multiple 
>seed routers is a good thing.)
>
>Good luck! By the way, thank-you for buying my book. I hope you like 
>it. Talk to you later,
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 06:49 PM 10/16/00, Dave Redwood wrote:
>>Thanks to everyone who sent a response.  I'm sorry I didn't give more
>>details when I wrote last night;  I think I was just on the verge of going
>>to sleep.
>>
>>The exact message was:
>>
>>"Your AppleTalk network has become available. To use the network, open the
>>AppleTalk control panel, then close it. "
>>
>>So the users actually have to open the control panel in order to access
>>other AppleTalk devices(even if they are in the same VLAN or segment).  And
>>no zones are displayed until after the control panel is opened and then
>>closed.
>>
>>
>>I've tried locking down the ports to all possible combinations of 10/100
>>half/full, setting the ports of the affected machines to portfast/regular
>>STP implementations, and the problem still lingers.  The only thing I have
>>noticed in the last 24hrs is that the machines running OS-X beta aren't
>>having the problem, those running OS9 and earlier are)
>>
>>We don't have multiple seed routers(but thx for suggesting it Chris!).
>>Here's our layout:
>>
>>(multiple mac clients G3/G4/etc...)
>> |
>> |
>> 100/full  (But i've tried all possible combinations)
>> |
>> |
>> Catalyst 5500a(VLAN 33)
>> |
>> |
>> GigE-net
>> |
>> |
>> Catalyst 5500b(VLAN 33)
>> |
>> |
>> GigE-net
>> |
>> |
>> Catalyst 5500c w/RSM ISL
>>
>>And the Apple TIL mentions this exact issue.  However a clear solution isn't
>>provided.  But thank you for noting it(Priscilla) and finding the link for
>>me(Daniel) it definitely is worth the read.
>>
>>Well, I think I'm stuck.  But I'll keep working on the problem and let you
>>know if I find a solution.
>>
>>Thank you *all*(Ian, Daniel, Chris and Priscilla) for taking the time to
>>make the suggestions
>>
>>P.S.:  Priscilla, I just started reading TDND and am loving it.  I'm
>>honored(I would try to find a more subtle word, but it's true) to have had
>>your input on this issue.
>>
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Network neighborhood

2000-10-18 Thread Jeff Lodwick

Assuming file and print sharing is enabled on all workstations; if some 
computers show up in network neighborhood and some do not would the problem 
most likely be a master browser issue or WINS or something else.  Thanks, 
Jeff Lodwick MCSE/CCNA
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RE: Is TDM full duplex or half duplex

2000-10-18 Thread Daniel Cotts

Half/full duplexing goes back much further. Half duplex implies a shared
media. Often only one can speak at a time. A good analogy would be radio
communication where when one is done speaking they use a key word such as
"over" to indicate that the other may speak. With full duplex both can
simultaneously transmit. In telephony this often referred to a four wire
circuit where the two wire circuit went to a hybrid coil circuit that
converted it to four wire. Two for transmit, two for receive. Analog can
amplify in one direction only - thus the need for four wire circuits for
interoffice trunking. 

The next step is to modulate voice traffic with different carrier
frequencies and multiplex the sum over the same four wires. The good news is
that many calls can share the same wires. The bad news is that the
amplifiers can't tell the difference between signal and noise. So long
circuits have increased noise.

The solution to noise was to digitize the signal and periodically regenerate
it. Anything below a certain threshold is considered noise and is rejected.
This was the beginning of TDM, Time Division Multiplexing, aka T-1s.

> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't duplexing an 
> Ethernet-only concept?
> 
> Joe
> 
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> TDM to me means T-1 and similar technology. It is full duplex sending
> seperate transmit and receive bit streams.
> 
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> > 
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> > Hi everyone,
> > Does anyone know if Time Division Multiplexing will work with 
> > only half 
> > duplexing or only full duplexing or both.  Jeff Lodwick MCSE/CCNA
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RE: Can you say Studying Simple Silly Certs Stinks

2000-10-18 Thread William E Gragido

Lets not forget that Partners receive benes for their Associate level people
as well Kevin ;-)

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>
>
> nope, can't say that I agree.
>
> perhaps CCNA "if" recruiters/hr people finally wake up and see
> that CCNA is
> an entry level cert (just talked about here lately)
>
> but CCNP/CCDP/CCIE certs are still being sought for various
> reasons.  Cisco
> partners especially need certified people.
>
> Kevin Wigle
> CCDP/CCNP.. maybe a bit biased :-)
>
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Re: BCRAN EXAM 640-505

2000-10-18 Thread Carl Mirsky

I am looking at getting the CiscoPress book by Catherine Paquet ISBN #
1578700914, published 1999.  This seems to be the only CP book available at
the moment.  Can anyone tell me if it is current for the new exam ?
Thanks.  Carl.

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RE: Employment Opportunity

2000-10-18 Thread William E Gragido

The UN are Facists {off soapbox}

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RE: Network neighborhood

2000-10-18 Thread William E Gragido

Jeffs right, Check your WINS settings ;-<

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> Assuming file and print sharing is enabled on all workstations; if some
> computers show up in network neighborhood and some do not would
> the problem
> most likely be a master browser issue or WINS or something else.  Thanks,
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Re: IP Unnumbered.

2000-10-18 Thread jason yee

You could use ip unnumbered on loopback interface
though , in this way when the lan segment is down you
can still have the loopback interface

suaveguru
--- "Brian W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is one huge disadvantage.  If the ether
> segment goes down in an ip
> unnumbered setup, then even if everything is
> physically ok on the serial
> link associated, that serial link will become
> unusable.  From a monitoring
> perspective, unnumbered is a bad idea.  I suspect
> some people use it to
> save ip space.
> 
>   Brian
> 
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Gunjan Mathur at 9netave wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Can somebody tell me Advantages & disadvantages of
>  system.
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> > 
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Re: line protocol down

2000-10-18 Thread jason yee

Not many clues given though

but from what you say it seems logical that you should
check the status of your serial interface see if there
are many input errors or crc errors if there are check
the clock rate of your modem 

otherwise check the status of the other party that you
are connected to to see if they were down 

however you can also confirm that your interface port
is ok but putting keepalives equal to 0 to see that
the status is up up 

suaveguru
--- Rayappa Mayakunthala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I have this problem with my 2503. The line protocol
> goes down consistently.
> If I reset the modem (CSU/DSU) or reload the router,
> the line protocol comes
> up. And then it goes down after few minutes/hours
> and history repeats. I
> couldn't nail down the problem. Any clues?
> 
> Thanks,
>   Rayappa.
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Re: Can you say Studying Simple Silly Certs Stinks

2000-10-18 Thread Brian W.

Also, Cisco partners need people with certifications, as already pointed
out.

Bri

On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Bradley J. Wilson wrote:

> There may be some truth to what you're saying, but the certifications
> certainly will continue to have an impact on that person's starting salary.
> 
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Re: Network neighborhood

2000-10-18 Thread Brian W.

perhaps file and printer sharing is not enabled on some??

Bri

On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Jeff Lodwick wrote:

> Assuming file and print sharing is enabled on all workstations; if some 
> computers show up in network neighborhood and some do not would the problem 
> most likely be a master browser issue or WINS or something else.  Thanks, 
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Re: Can you say Studying Simple Silly Certs Stinks

2000-10-18 Thread Kevin Wigle

you're absolutely correct!

sorry if I stepped on anybody's feelings - (I was an "Associate" once!)

Kevin

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> Lets not forget that Partners receive benes for their Associate level
people
> as well Kevin ;-)
>
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> > Kevin Wigle
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> > To: Terrence Garrison; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Can you say Studying Simple Silly Certs Stinks
> >
> >
> > nope, can't say that I agree.
> >
> > perhaps CCNA "if" recruiters/hr people finally wake up and see
> > that CCNA is
> > an entry level cert (just talked about here lately)
> >
> > but CCNP/CCDP/CCIE certs are still being sought for various
> > reasons.  Cisco
> > partners especially need certified people.
> >
> > Kevin Wigle
> > CCDP/CCNP.. maybe a bit biased :-)
> >
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> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 1:54 PM
> > Subject: Can you say Studying Simple Silly Certs Stinks
> >
> >
> > > I think I am noticing that CCNA, CCNP and CCIE
> > > are of less and less importance because there
> > > is such a short supply of people, employers no
> > > better than to ask for a cert ? What do you guys think ?
> > >
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Books for BSCN

2000-10-18 Thread Juan Blanco



Team,
    
Is there any book that I could go and buy right now for this 
test
Thanks
 


Re:

2000-10-18 Thread Kevin Wigle

Go up on the Galton site and download it.  Same place where you agreed to
your NDA before being awarded your CCNP.

They have recently changed if anyone had the "old" ones.

http://www.galton.com/~cisco/

Kevin Wigle
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> I know I have seen a CCNP logo.
> Does andybody have it or know where I get it.
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Re: Network neighborhood

2000-10-18 Thread AABAN34

load netbeui or setup LMHOST filethen it will work

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RE: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface

2000-10-18 Thread Erick B.

Some minor corrections.

The OSPF process will use the *highest* loopback IP
address if a loopback interface is configured.
Otherwise, it uses the *highest* IP address on a
physical interface. To configure OSPF (router ospf x)
you need a interface with IP to be in a up/up state. 

You can reboot to have the router ID reflected or you
can remove the OSPF process and add it back.

--- Louie Belt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It will take the loopback address as it's ID, even
> if it is not the highest
> IP address on the router.  Loopbacks take precedence
> over higher IP's with
> respect to Router ID's for OSPF.  You will have to
> reboot your router for
> this change to be reflected.  Once an ID is chosen,
> it will keep that ID
> regardless of changes until the router is rebooted.
> 
> Louie
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> 
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> 
> No, It's the highest Ip on the router.
> 
> 
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> Subject: OSPF Router ID/Loopback interface
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:15:27 -0700
> 
> If I add a loopback interface to a router, when will
> the router take it as
> the router ID?  Here's a scenario:
> 
> Serial2/1 is the current router ID: 209.1.1.1
> 
> I add Loopback0, which is 10.0.0.1
> 
> Shouldn't the router take this as its router ID? 
> When does this happen?
> Doing:
> 
> clear ip ospf process
> 
> Still shows the old router ID.  Is there any way to
> force the router to take
> the ID from the loopback interface?  On another
> router, I couldn't get it to
> change until after reload.
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RE: BSCN

2000-10-18 Thread Shaheed, Manzur

Lots of errors.

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> Building Scalable Cisco Networks 
> by Thomas M. Thomas II  Tan Nam-Kee 
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Catalyst- Resolving the Physical Port

2000-10-18 Thread Circusnuts

Hey guys- I'm stumped...  Yesterday I installed a Ethernet probe on a
Catalyst 6509.  I needed to watch a VLAN, due to a high rate of collisions
within a subnet.  I didn't use the Probe's tap (which is a hub device).  I
ran the management connection (which has an IP) & the probe connection
(listening side) into the 6509.  I had connectivity & could Ping from the
Ethernet probe out, so I figured the rest could be done remotely.  Now I'm 2
hours away from the site & I need to figure out what connection on the VLAN
(the one I want to monitor) is the uplink to the router (what Slot/ Port).
I need to issue the "Set Span" command, making TAP port on the 6509, a
listening port to the uplink port (much like a hub would have done).  How do
I see the physical connections from the CLI ???

If all else fails- tomorrow I'll turn on CDP Neighbors @ the router & see
what I see...

Thanks !!!
Phil

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RE: Network neighborhood

2000-10-18 Thread Chris Lemagie

You have to have a Master Browser on every segment of a routed network.  You
will also have to use the "ip helper-address" command so that WINS and DHCP
requests are forwarded correctly.

Chris Lemagie
Systems Engineer
Cisco Systems
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Subject:Network neighborhood

Assuming file and print sharing is enabled on all workstations; if some
computers show up in network neighborhood and some do not would the problem
most likely be a master browser issue or WINS or something else.  Thanks,
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