Re: 4000 catalyst, where isl
Mr. Biel, According to CCO, http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/ca4000.htm#xtocid58994, the L3 module supports ISL on the uplink interfaces. Those are GigabitEthernet 1 & 2 when configuring the module. Ex: interface GigabitEthernet 1 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast no negotiation auto ! interface GigabitEthernet 1.10 encapsulation isl 10 ! VLAN 10 bridge-group 10 ! interface GigabitEthernet 3 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast no negotiation auto channel-group 1 ! interface GigabitEthernet 4 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast no negotiation auto channel-group 1 ! interface Port-channel 1 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast no negotiation auto ! interface Port-channel 1.10 encapsulation dot1q 10 ! VLAN 10 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast no negotiation auto bridge-group 10 bridge 10 protocol ieee Chris M. --- John Biel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I mentioned in my previous post there is a > WS-X4232-L3 module in this > switch. > However the option to do isl trunking does not > appear to be there. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > By default cat 4000 support only 802.1q. If you > need isl, you should by > > interface that have Layer 3 support like > WS-X4232-L3. Price is about 15K. > > Sidleen > > Network Consultant > > Datacraft (Thailand) Ltd. > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Craig E. Smith > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: 15 ¸Ñ¹ÇÒ¤Á 2000 21:10 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: 4000 catalyst, where isl > > > > > > why does the catalyst 4000 not support isl? > > > > > > > > > Craig E. Smith > > > Network Engineer > > > > > > _ > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching method help!!
hi Priscilla, I think CEF has an option of per-packet load sharing, which determines the path on a per-packet base. The real power comes from distributed CEF, where if you have a 75xx or similar with VIP cards, it'll utilize the switching processors on VIP cards to do the switching. This is the main reason we use CEF I think, you'll be surprised how much the CPU util % drops. Leon Chang CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Adam Hickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 12:15 PM Subject: Re: Switching method help!! > Sometimes I answer questions to try to bring out the experts, not because I > am an expert. &;-) But so far nobody has added to my comments about CEF, so > I will. > > From my additional reading on the topic, I think it's not quite right to > say that one of the goals of CEF was to overcome the per-destination > load-sharing disadvantage of fast-switching. It's more correct to say that > CEF was designed for a different type of network. It solves a different > problem. > > Fast switching speeds up forwarding in a typical small-to-medium network > with lots of client-server traffic. With fast switching, a router learns > the exit interface for a destination and caches this information, so that > the next time traffic comes in for that destination, the router can check > the cache and quickly forward the traffic without a routing-table lookup. > > CEF, on the other hand, speeds up forwarding in large networks with dynamic > traffic patterns, such as the Internet. CEF is useful for networks > characterized by Web-based applications or interactive sessions, where > there are numerous and ever-changing destinations. > > In networks with dynamic traffic patterns, fast switching cache entries > change frequently. These changes can cause traffic to be process switched > using the routing table, rather than fast switched using the route cache. > With CEF, on the other hand, the Forwarding Information Base (FIB) lookup > table contains all known routes that exist in the routing table. The FIB > eliminates route cache turnover. CEF also offers full switching capacity at > each line card when distributed CEF (dCEF) mode is used. > > See this URL for more info: > > http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/swit ch_c/xcprt2/xcdcef.htm > > Priscilla > > At 11:27 AM 12/15/00, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > >Fast switching definitely has the problem you refer to. Fast switching > >offers per-destination load-sharing. Since the router caches information on > >how to forward traffic to a destination, all traffic to that destination > >exits the same interface. > > > >One of the goals of CEF was to overcome this problem. I can't remember the > >details, but I think you can do more precise load-balancing with CEF. I'll > >see if I can dig up more details and get back to you. Or maybe some other > >folks who use CEF can chime in. > > > >Priscilla > > > >At 12:31 PM 12/13/00, Adam Hickey wrote: > > >Hey all, > > > > > >Question: > > >1) On a router with multiple outbound paths, if fast switching (or CEF) = > > >is enabled and outbound traffic comes through towards a given = > > >destination, is all traffic for that same destination then locked to the = > > >same path untill the route cache is cleared? > > > > > >2) If the above is yes, how long does the router maintain its route = > > >cache? > > > > > >Purpose: > > >We have a 7507 that will be running BGP over 2 T1's. We are attempting = > > >to establish load balancing both inbound and out. Halabi (2nd Ed.) in = > > >Chapter 7 warns that to do this one must be familiar with the different = > > >methods of switching. Thus I am studying to find the pro's and cons of = > > >each. CEF or fast switching sounds about right, however, the above = > > >question was raised as I was discussing this with our lead engineer. > > > > > > > > >Thank You > > >Adam > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >_ > > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > >Priscilla Oppenheimer > >http://www.priscilla.com > > > >_ > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTE
RE: DHCP Spanning Tree
No, but I have seen issues where Spanning Tree hampered DHCP, especially on Catalyst 2900XL switches. PortFast is Cisco's fix for the problem but be sure to read the precautions first. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/12.html I apologize if this answer is taking the wrong track, I just couldn't figure how DHCP would hinder Spanning Tree. Dave Swink > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > A. Ward > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: DHCP Spanning Tree > > > Has anyone had issues where DHCP limited the use of the Spanning tree = > protocol? > > Can you send me a lead to a white paper or give me any information on = > this issue? > > Thanks. > > A. Ward > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Access-list block sizes
What are the "valid" access-list block sizes? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What to know, all night long . . .
IF you'll pick the Exam Cram for the v2 you should be alright! I studied for the v2 with that and the Syngress CCNA book for the v1 and passed it... Go figure! The Exam Cram was priceless!!! -- Michael S Garcia CCNA - MCP - CCNP (soon) Axient Communications "Dyland Desmarais" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Greets all > > I am currently studying for CCNP v2 and have begun with the BSCN exam. > However, when I got my CCNA, it wrote the V1 exam. I their anything not on > the v1 CCNA that there is on the CCNA v2 exam that I should study before > getting to far into my BSCN? > > Say that 10 times over :-) > > Thanx > > Dyland > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
There's a delete button??? -- Michael S Garcia CCNA - MCP - CCNP (soon) Axient Communications "chris fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I don't know about the rest of you, but I got REAL > good at using the 'delete' button after joining the > group. > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What to know, all night long . . .
I having the same situation as you are. I passed my CCNA v1 1.5 yrs ago and going for CCNP v2. Anyway, i managed to complete my CCNP without going thru the course note of CCNA v2. BSCN is stressing on OSPF, BGP, VLSM & etc. It is not very much related to subject in CCNA v2. Hope it can help ypu. Thk. Rgds, Sam > -Original Message- > From: Dyland Desmarais [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 1:25 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: What to know, all night long . . . > > Greets all > > I am currently studying for CCNP v2 and have begun with the BSCN exam. > However, when I got my CCNA, it wrote the V1 exam. I their anything not > on > the v1 CCNA that there is on the CCNA v2 exam that I should study before > getting to far into my BSCN? > > Say that 10 times over :-) > > Thanx > > Dyland > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Numbers . . . What numbers?
Save some IP address without assigning any IP on your WAN link and your routing still working fine. Rgds, Sam > -Original Message- > From: Dyland Desmarais [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 1:22 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: Numbers . . . What numbers? > > Greetings all > > Could someone please shed some light on IP Unnumbered Serial Interfaces. > From my BSCN book, I understand this is getting ip routing to work on a > serial interface without specifying a specific ip to the serial interface > (using the ip unnumbered command) > > My question is why would anyone want to do this? > > thanx > > > Dyland > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What to know, all night long . . .
Greets all I am currently studying for CCNP v2 and have begun with the BSCN exam. However, when I got my CCNA, it wrote the V1 exam. I their anything not on the v1 CCNA that there is on the CCNA v2 exam that I should study before getting to far into my BSCN? Say that 10 times over :-) Thanx Dyland _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Numbers . . . What numbers?
Greetings all Could someone please shed some light on IP Unnumbered Serial Interfaces. >From my BSCN book, I understand this is getting ip routing to work on a serial interface without specifying a specific ip to the serial interface (using the ip unnumbered command) My question is why would anyone want to do this? thanx Dyland _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *** frame reley
In a lab, it's to emulate the Telco's. In production, it's to save money with a very sound transport mode. Though I think you'll never see it @ work, I know of one reseller that sold a handful of AGS's (all serial interfaces) to Sprint, for just that reason... .02 Phil - Original Message - From: "Deepak Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 1:14 AM Subject: *** frame reley > Has anyone configured there router to act as a frame-reley switch?...why > > would someone want to do this in a production environment?... can see > why in a lab...but in a business?...can it be useful in some way>? > > interface Serial1/0 > no ip address > encapsulated frame-relay > keepalive 15 > frame-relay lmi - type ansi > frame-relay intf - type dce > frame-relay route 500 interface Serial2 600 > ! > interface Serial2/0 > encapsulation frame-relay > keepalive 15 > frame-relay intf-type dce > frame-relay route 600 interface Serial1 500 > > thanks > Deepak > > > > *** bcz finest *** > > > > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weekend Challenge - Route Aggregation
>Just sitting around eating some chicken, catching up on my e-mail. I see in >the Tony Bates CIDR report to the NANOG list there is a reference to >"interesting aggregations". > >http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr-report.html#Aggs > >Thought some excerpts might make an interesting challenge. To whit, come up >with the appropriate summarization for the following routes that currently >appear in the "global internet BGP table" > >These are things that caught my eye while browsing the report. I have not >tried to summarize them myself as yet. > >How about it? Take a stab and publish your results? Have some fun? And a counterchallenge -- anyone want to take a stab and suggest why certain of these might be being advertised as less-than-optimal aggregations, for quite good reasons? Note -- I have not researched whether these are or are not good aggregations. But where might I look? What is the single most important additional piece of information about each of these groups? > >Group 1 >143.178.0.0/19 >143.178.64.0/19 >143.178.128.0/19 >143.178.140.0/24 > >Group 2 >148.233.0.0/21 >148.233.1.0/24 >148.233.2.0/24 >148.233.6.0/24 >148.233.8.0/21 > >Group 3 >148.235.0.0/17 >148.235.2.0/24 >148.235.4.0/23 >148.235.6.0/24 >148.235.8.0/21 > >Group 4 - the Big Challenge >148.223.112.0/21 >148.223.120.0/22 >148.223.124.0/24 >148.223.128.0/17 >148.223.128.0/20 >148.223.151.0/24 >148.223.160.0/24 >148.223.176.0/20 >148.223.177.0/24 >148.223.178.0/24 >148.223.192.0/19 >148.223.224.0/23 >148.223.226.0/24 >148.223.249.0/24 >148.223.250.0/24 >148.233.110.0/24 >148.233.112.0/20 >148.233.113.0/24 >148.233.116.0/22 >148.233.120.0/21 >148.233.122.0/24 >148.233.128.0/21 >148.233.128.0/24 >148.233.130.0/24 >148.233.137.0/24 >148.233.140.0/22 >148.233.140.0/24 >148.233.155.0/24 >148.233.156.0/22 >148.233.160.0/20 >148.233.160.0/21 >148.233.164.0/24 >148.233.165.0/24 >148.233.168.0/22 >148.233.175.0/24 >148.233.176.0/20 > >One way to determine how well we understand aggregation / supernetting / >CIDR :-> > >Chuck >-- >I am Locutus, a CCIE Lab Proctor. Xx_Brain_dumps_xX are futile. Your life as >it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you will >study US! >( apologies to the folks at Star Trek TNG ) > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More bandwidth
Thank you all, I have been using GroupStudy.com for quite awile. I is nice that I can give back to the group now. Lon Cameron Inflow Inc. ""Paul Borghese"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 00a001c066de$3f322e40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00a001c066de$3f322e40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > We really own an immense thanks to Cory Williams and Lon Cameron. They got > us the bandwidth and will be managing the hardware whenever there is a > problem. > > I like you idea of a shared lab we can use for a minimal contribution. I > actually have some equipment we can use. Just the problem is writing the > software that will manage the equipment without user intervention. So we > will need software that can reserver a time, change the passwords so they > are only used during that reserved period, and clean the routers after each > use. > > Anyone want to take on this project? > > Paul > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ole Drews Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Kevin Wigle'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "cisco" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:53 AM > Subject: RE: More bandwidth > > > > Let me waste some of this bandwitdh by joining Kevin in thanking Paul and > > everyone who has helped him keeping this list running and making it even > > better. > > > > This list has indeed helped me getting where I am now (halfway CCNP), so I > > would like to make a suggestion to help Paul (and everyone who has helped > > him) making sure that this list will stay the best, and keep on helping > me, > > you and many more in the future. > > > > I was born in Denmark 35 years ago, and moved to Houston, Texas 4.5 years > > ago where I met my wife. However, I still like to know what silly things > the > > Danish government comes up with once in a while, so I joined a > "danish-news" > > group. This was a guy and his wife that EVERY SINGLE NIGHT sat down and > > wrote about everything they had heard on the news and read in the news > > papers. Thousands of Danes relocated all over the world has been very > > pleased to receive those news every day, so every year, many people have > > contributed a small amount of money on a check and mailed to them. They > got > > so much money so both him and his wife were able to fly to the World > > Championship of Soccer a couple of years ago, so they could report > "on-site" > > about it. Danish people are also crazy about soccer. > > > > Anyway(s), I would like to be the first one to do this, so if you Paul > would > > place your address on the website (I haven't checked if it's there > already) > > or reply to this e-mail with it, you will soon have a small contribution > > coming your way. > > > > I am not sure how many people are on this list, but if just one out of ten > > sends $5.- or $10.- bucks, I think there's even a chance that Paul later > on > > could add extra features like access to Cisco equipment from his website. > > > > A small contribution is a drop of water compared to what "we" spend on > > books, courses, equipment, etc. to end up where we're going. > > > > Have a great weekend, > > > > Ole > > > > > > Ole Drews Jensen > > Systems Network Manager > > CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I > > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp > > > > NEED A JOB ??? > > http://www.oledrews.com/job > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:25 AM > > To: cisco > > Subject: OT: More bandwidth > > > > > > Hey Group! > > > > Off topic rants aside... :-) > > > > I just want to thank Paul and associates for the upgrade and new location > of > > the lists' server. > > > > When I replied earlier today to an OT post, I expected to see my post 3-4 > > hours later as was normal just a few days ago. > > > > Very much surprised and pleased (notwithstanding content) to see how fast > my > > post came back. > > > > Great stuff! > > > > This will greatly help those threads that get kinda lost and out of order > > due to the previous slow response time. > > > > A fantastic improvement for GroupStudy. > > > > thanks Paul > > > > Kevin Wigle > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy
Re: 4000 catalyst, where isl
As I mentioned in my previous post there is a WS-X4232-L3 module in this switch. However the option to do isl trunking does not appear to be there. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > By default cat 4000 support only 802.1q. If you need isl, you should by > interface that have Layer 3 support like WS-X4232-L3. Price is about 15K. > Sidleen > Network Consultant > Datacraft (Thailand) Ltd. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Craig E. Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 15 ¸Ñ¹ÇÒ¤Á 2000 21:10 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: 4000 catalyst, where isl > > > > why does the catalyst 4000 not support isl? > > > > > > Craig E. Smith > > Network Engineer > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed BSCN during the outage...
I just want to report my good fortune to score 827 on BSCN (yesterday). I used the Paquet and Teare BSCN Cisco Press book. I had previously purchased the Exam Cram Routing book (before BSCN was published) which I found to be inadequate preparation for the exam. The Boson Tests were a valuable aid in that they helped me focus my attention during the final week on the areas of the BSCN book where I needed more work. I first began monitoring this site last year while I was working on the CCNA and I have been a daily observer since then. I have made comments and contributions when I felt I had something to add. I have learned a great deal about specific questions I have had that someone else had already addressed, but more importantly I have gotten a taste of the bredth of the field of networking. I appreciate all of you contributors and I hope I can earn a spot as a valued member as I become more able to give back. Warmly, Tom -- Tom Keough MCSE CCNA AT&T Global Network Solutions Standard Access Management Managed Router Service Tier 2 Technical Support Tampa, Florida _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 4000 catalyst, where isl
By default cat 4000 support only 802.1q. If you need isl, you should by interface that have Layer 3 support like WS-X4232-L3. Price is about 15K. Sidleen Network Consultant Datacraft (Thailand) Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: Craig E. Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 15 ¸Ñ¹ÇÒ¤Á 2000 21:10 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: 4000 catalyst, where isl > > why does the catalyst 4000 not support isl? > > > Craig E. Smith > Network Engineer > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Weekend Challenge - Route Aggregation
Just sitting around eating some chicken, catching up on my e-mail. I see in the Tony Bates CIDR report to the NANOG list there is a reference to "interesting aggregations". http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr-report.html#Aggs Thought some excerpts might make an interesting challenge. To whit, come up with the appropriate summarization for the following routes that currently appear in the "global internet BGP table" These are things that caught my eye while browsing the report. I have not tried to summarize them myself as yet. How about it? Take a stab and publish your results? Have some fun? Group 1 143.178.0.0/19 143.178.64.0/19 143.178.128.0/19 143.178.140.0/24 Group 2 148.233.0.0/21 148.233.1.0/24 148.233.2.0/24 148.233.6.0/24 148.233.8.0/21 Group 3 148.235.0.0/17 148.235.2.0/24 148.235.4.0/23 148.235.6.0/24 148.235.8.0/21 Group 4 - the Big Challenge 148.223.112.0/21 148.223.120.0/22 148.223.124.0/24 148.223.128.0/17 148.223.128.0/20 148.223.151.0/24 148.223.160.0/24 148.223.176.0/20 148.223.177.0/24 148.223.178.0/24 148.223.192.0/19 148.223.224.0/23 148.223.226.0/24 148.223.249.0/24 148.223.250.0/24 148.233.110.0/24 148.233.112.0/20 148.233.113.0/24 148.233.116.0/22 148.233.120.0/21 148.233.122.0/24 148.233.128.0/21 148.233.128.0/24 148.233.130.0/24 148.233.137.0/24 148.233.140.0/22 148.233.140.0/24 148.233.155.0/24 148.233.156.0/22 148.233.160.0/20 148.233.160.0/21 148.233.164.0/24 148.233.165.0/24 148.233.168.0/22 148.233.175.0/24 148.233.176.0/20 One way to determine how well we understand aggregation / supernetting / CIDR :-> Chuck -- I am Locutus, a CCIE Lab Proctor. Xx_Brain_dumps_xX are futile. Your life as it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you will study US! ( apologies to the folks at Star Trek TNG ) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*** frame reley
Has anyone configured there router to act as a frame-reley switch?...why would someone want to do this in a production environment?... can see why in a lab...but in a business?...can it be useful in some way>? interface Serial1/0 no ip address encapsulated frame-relay keepalive 15 frame-relay lmi - type ansi frame-relay intf - type dce frame-relay route 500 interface Serial2 600 ! interface Serial2/0 encapsulation frame-relay keepalive 15 frame-relay intf-type dce frame-relay route 600 interface Serial1 500 thanks Deepak *** bcz finest *** _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LOTUS NOTES PROBLEM
lotusnote 1352/tcp Lotus Note lotusnote 1352/udp Lotus Note ccmail 3264/tcp cc:mail/lotus ccmail 3264/udp cc:mail/lotus Make sure these ports are not blocked. Watch the firewall setting also. We use lotus notes in the same way at our office. But make sure all the service packs for lotus are loaded.What are you running? 4.63 client or R5?...what are you running on the Domino side? 4.6 or R5?... here's a good link http://www.searchdomino.com/ hth Deepak ___ Deepak Sharma MCSE CCNA ACT A+ Lead Technical Analyst BC Region Ceridian Canada Ltd. SOHAIL RAO wrote: > dear all > We have a problem related to accessing the lotus notes server over > WAN. We have a T1 leased line between our branch office and head office. We > are not able to access the mails properly, i.e we are able to open the > mails from branch office but r not able to view or detach the attachments. > Also the problem seems to be more severe on NT than on Win 95 clients.Did > any of u face such a problem?? do we have to configure the router in a > particular way in order to access lotus notes server through it?? > Our routers are 2621 and r using pandacom modems. > > will appreciate any of ur helps... > regards, > sohail. > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: community settings
>good explanation but still can you be a bit more >layman ? To be quite honest, no, not within an email message. Generating BGP routes can foul up not just one's own network, but the Internet as a whole. It is not a simple subject. At CertificationZone, I wrote a 3-part tutorial, perhaps 100 pages or so, about BGP policy--and that was an introduction. When I've done internal Nortel seminars for research-level developers, I can spend hours to days discussing scenarios for using communities, the differing roles of communities and route selection affectors such as MED and local pref, the interactions of communities with MED and local pref, etc. Recently, after a failed test of a US missile defense system, the official who gave the press briefing observed, "this _is_ rocket science." In the case of Internet routing, I began to get the idea of what actually was happening when I read the RIPE-181 document (also as an RFC) and thought about it long and hard. The RPSL RFCs, especially "Using RPSL in Practice," help. Following the NANOG and RIPE Routing WG mailing lists helps a great deal. > > >suaveguru >--- "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >suaveguru wrote: >> >> >> >> knows anything below what it does ? >> >> >> >> route-map MikeTest permit 10 >> >> set community 6461:701 additive >> > >> >Adds community 6461:701 to the list of communities >> >carried with the route. Without keyword 'additive', >> >it will remove other communities. >> > >> >It is used with BGP. >> > >> >Saa >> >> >> Excellent explanation of what the command itself >> does. One of the >> hard things in learning real world "BGP" is that the >> Border Gateway >> Protocol (BGP) is a small part of the complexity of >> global internet >> routing. >> >> In this example, the meaning of community 6461:701 >> is defined by AS >> 6461 (the part before the :). While this community >> will be used to >> make some sort of policy decision, the actual >> policy, contrary to >> many discussions, is NOT carried by BGP. For >> example, community 701 >> of AS 6461 might mean that an AS _should_ treat >> routes with this >> community as high precedence. A receiving AS is not >> obligated to do >> so, and, unless there are prior agreements with AS >> 6461, may not even >> know that is the intended meaning. >> >> To take a different example, let's say AS 6461 is an >> academic >> research network manager. Other universities >> belonging to the same >> network will recognize community 701 routes as >> belonging to the >> research network. Indeed, if another university were >> AS 6060, it >> still might originate routes with origin AS 6060 but >> community >> 6461:701, because all the participants know that >> 6461:701 denotes >> membership in the cooperative network. >> >> The meaning of communities MAY be available from >> routing registries, >> but may simply be a private admininistrative >> agreement between AS. >> >> The key things to remember: >> >> Policies are implemented in filters/route list >> match/set, etc. >> statements that are not transmitted by BGP >> >> Information to make policy decisions is >> transmitted by BGP. >> >> _ >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. >http://shopping.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
Hmmm, your DNS server might not have updated. Probably going to 208.242.122.7 instead of our new address. Paul "ElephantChild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Paul Borghese wrote: > > > Also, remember - this group has had a slight design change. The group is > > now a combination of two groups, Professional and Tech. The Tech group may > > discuss any issue related to network engineering, not just Cisco products. > > > > Please read http://www.groupstudy.com/lists/cisco.html and > > 404 compliant. ITYM http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html. > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/changes.html for more information. > > -- > "Airplane travel is nature's way of making you look like your passport > photo." --- Al Gore > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TACACS+
Look up the aaa commands on www.cisco.com There are some examples under tech docs:examples. - Original Message - From: "Avran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 12:00 PM Subject: TACACS+ > I am configuring tacacs for a big network. Please shed some light on this > process. I am unable to find any reference to TACACS+ for router access. > > Thank you. > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Route-maps and statics
Yes you can, In a route-map you can have different precedences and change the metrics according to match statements that can refer to access-lists as I show below: router eigrp 1 redistribute static route-map into-eigrp ! route-map into-eigrp permit 10 match ip address into-eigrp-acl set metric 64000 200 255 255 1500 ! route-map into-eigrp permit 20 match ip address into-eigrp-acl-2 set metric 256000 200 255 255 1500 ! The precendence 10 entry uses 64Kbps on a 2000 microsecond delay path on a totally reliable path with 1500 MTU. The precedence 20 entry is the same but says the minimum bandwidth so far is 256Kbps. Of course I didn't show the access-lists but you get the idea. Does this answer what you meant? Darren Ward "Williamson, Paul" wrote: > Hi > > Is there a way of redistributing a number of static routes into eigrp, > whilst altering the cost of just one of them > I thought i'd be able to do it with a route-map statement but i'm having a > bit of trouble getting it to work > > Any help would be grateful > Thanks > -Paul > > PLEASE READ: The information contained in this e-mail is confidential > and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended > recipient of this email you must not copy, distribute or take any > further action in reliance on it and you should delete it and notify the > sender immediately. Email is not a secure method of communication and > Nomura International plc cannot accept responsibility for the accuracy > or completeness of this message or any attachment(s). Please check this > e-mail for virus infection, for which Nomura International plc accepts > no responsibility. If verification of this email is sought then please > request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated any views or opinions > presented are solely those of the author and do not represent those of > Nomura International plc. This email is intended for informational > purposes only and is not a solicitation or offer to buy or sell > securities or related financial instruments. Nomura International plc is > regulated by the Securities and Futures Authority Limited and is a > member of the London Stock Exchange. > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 4000 catalyst, where isl
I have a 4006, but I have never found a way to do isl trunking as the option simply is not available. Below is the reply from the switch when trying to trunk on module 2 (WS-X4418) which is comprised of 18 gigabit ethernet ports C4006> (enable) set trunk 2/18 ? (mode)Trunk mode (on,off,desirable,auto, nonegotiate) (type) Trunk type (dot1q) (vlan) VLAN number Note the lack of an option other than dot1q at Trunk type. The reply is the same on the other modules (WS-X4013, WS-X4232-L3, WS-X4232-RJ-XX) If I'm missing something please let me know. John > It does on it's Gigabit Ethernet Ports. > > Ole > > > Ole Drews Jensen > Systems Network Manager > CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp > > NEED A JOB ??? > http://www.oledrews.com/job > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Craig E. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: 4000 catalyst, where isl > > > why does the catalyst 4000 not support isl? > > > Craig E. Smith > Network Engineer > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CIT Support Questions
Andy, Unlike the BCRAN exam (which had the drop-down list), for Support you have to type in the commands. Kathy M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Wu Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 7:06 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: CIT Support Questions Groupstudy.com, I'm taking the CIT Test this Sunday, just a few questions on the test itself: 1. On the test question format, do you have to type in the exact unabbreviated command or is there a list to pick from? 2. Anyone tried the Boson Support Exam #3 yet? and what's your opinions on it? Thanks in advance, Andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VTP clarify?
Li Li Zhao wrote: > Dear friends, > > Any one can help me to clearify the concept of VTP? > > It's Virtual Trunking Protocol? Or VLAN trunking > Protocol? Or the two are actually same. > VLAN Trunking Protocol > > VTP support 3 modes: Server, Client, and > Transparent.What does Transparent mean? > Transperant doesn't use the VTP information itself but it will pass it on to other switches, hence being transperant to the VTP Domain. This also means you have to create your VLAN's locally on a Transperant switch as it won't get the details from VTP. Darren _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CIT Support Questions
Groupstudy.com, I'm taking the CIT Test this Sunday, just a few questions on the test itself: 1. On the test question format, do you have to type in the exact unabbreviated command or is there a list to pick from? 2. Anyone tried the Boson Support Exam #3 yet? and what's your opinions on it? Thanks in advance, Andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Token ring to Ethernet coversion
Hi Nicolas, A word of advice since I was part of a team that did such a project. Since the token-ring network surely would have evolved into a much bigger enterprise than what it originally was, the first thing to do would be to determine traffic patterns. This can be done using an analyser such as a Sniffer. This has to be done over a period of time to accurately graph traffic trends, such as, at various times of the day, for instance. More often than not, such an exercise points to some very obvious sub-optimal traffic patterns and server placements which may have remained unnoticed as the network evolved. This can be optimized thereby reducing broadcasts and unnecessary network traffic resulting in a cleaner and relatively problem-free network. This is the planning part and often gets overlooked. And this would also give you more insight into your network and its traffic patterns and can be helpful for deploying any new software/application in future. Most of the problems that we faced were in the conversion of desktops/laptops from Token-Ring to Ethernet. This involves loading up new network drivers and a slew of application and software-related problems. So roll up your sleeves. It will be a lot of fun and learning too. Aziz S. Islam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nicholas Pandola Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 7:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Token ring to Ethernet coversion Hi, I am working on a token ring to Ethernet upgrade 2000 users. I would = like to know if anybody out there has preformed this type of conversion = before and what where the main issues. I know that MTU. and = Fragmentation will be a major concern. My feeling on this is that once = the servers get converted to Ethernet that the issues should be = alleviated. The design we have is that server's tie into 6509's = directly on one side and on the user side, tie into a 2980 which connect = to a 6509 though a fiber trunk. =20 Thanks=20 Nicholas _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VTP cleariffy. Anybody ?
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/rel_4_2/config/v lans.htm a simple search on CCO using VTP as the key yield a number of hits, of which this was the first. Appears to be a good place to start. Best wishes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Li Li Zhao Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 3:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:VTP cleariffy. Anybody ? Dear friends, Any one can help me to clearify the concept of VTP? It's Virtual Trunking Protocol? Or VLAN trunking Protocol? Or the two are actually same. VTP support 3 modes: Server, Client, and Transparent.What does Transparent mean? Thanks and Merry Christmas! Snow __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching method help!!
Sometimes I answer questions to try to bring out the experts, not because I am an expert. &;-) But so far nobody has added to my comments about CEF, so I will. From my additional reading on the topic, I think it's not quite right to say that one of the goals of CEF was to overcome the per-destination load-sharing disadvantage of fast-switching. It's more correct to say that CEF was designed for a different type of network. It solves a different problem. Fast switching speeds up forwarding in a typical small-to-medium network with lots of client-server traffic. With fast switching, a router learns the exit interface for a destination and caches this information, so that the next time traffic comes in for that destination, the router can check the cache and quickly forward the traffic without a routing-table lookup. CEF, on the other hand, speeds up forwarding in large networks with dynamic traffic patterns, such as the Internet. CEF is useful for networks characterized by Web-based applications or interactive sessions, where there are numerous and ever-changing destinations. In networks with dynamic traffic patterns, fast switching cache entries change frequently. These changes can cause traffic to be process switched using the routing table, rather than fast switched using the route cache. With CEF, on the other hand, the Forwarding Information Base (FIB) lookup table contains all known routes that exist in the routing table. The FIB eliminates route cache turnover. CEF also offers full switching capacity at each line card when distributed CEF (dCEF) mode is used. See this URL for more info: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/switch_c/xcprt2/xcdcef.htm Priscilla At 11:27 AM 12/15/00, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >Fast switching definitely has the problem you refer to. Fast switching >offers per-destination load-sharing. Since the router caches information on >how to forward traffic to a destination, all traffic to that destination >exits the same interface. > >One of the goals of CEF was to overcome this problem. I can't remember the >details, but I think you can do more precise load-balancing with CEF. I'll >see if I can dig up more details and get back to you. Or maybe some other >folks who use CEF can chime in. > >Priscilla > >At 12:31 PM 12/13/00, Adam Hickey wrote: > >Hey all, > > > >Question: > >1) On a router with multiple outbound paths, if fast switching (or CEF) = > >is enabled and outbound traffic comes through towards a given = > >destination, is all traffic for that same destination then locked to the = > >same path untill the route cache is cleared? > > > >2) If the above is yes, how long does the router maintain its route = > >cache? > > > >Purpose: > >We have a 7507 that will be running BGP over 2 T1's. We are attempting = > >to establish load balancing both inbound and out. Halabi (2nd Ed.) in = > >Chapter 7 warns that to do this one must be familiar with the different = > >methods of switching. Thus I am studying to find the pro's and cons of = > >each. CEF or fast switching sounds about right, however, the above = > >question was raised as I was discussing this with our lead engineer. > > > > > >Thank You > >Adam > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >_ > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >Priscilla Oppenheimer >http://www.priscilla.com > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VTP cleariffy. Anybody ?
Dear friends, Any one can help me to clearify the concept of VTP? It's Virtual Trunking Protocol? Or VLAN trunking Protocol? Or the two are actually same. VTP support 3 modes: Server, Client, and Transparent.What does Transparent mean? Thanks and Merry Christmas! Snow __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No Subject
Hi all, I am about to embark on my studying for the switching exam (taking remote access 12/18).My question is,which book is the best for this exam.I have seen 2 on the ciscopress site. Thanks for the advise Tim _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where did the free book offers go? [1:1213]
me neither... Also been looking. Anyone seen anything lately -Original Message- From: Will Bober [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Where did the free book offers go? [1:1213] Anyone see any free book offers from Cisco recently? I used to see them posted here? - Will Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=1&i=1213&t=1213 -- You are reading GroupStudy's Associate Mailing List. To unsubscribe follow the directions on http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TFTP from inside..
What do they recommend as an alternative? ""Mark Krysinski"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Cisco recommends not using conduits and statics. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Rik Guyler > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 3:51 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah > Subject: RE: TFTP from inside.. > > > Well, you probably don't have the correct UDP port open for TFTP to come > into the network from the router. Open UDP port 63 (I think) from the > outside to the inside interface for TFTP from the router to the mgmt > station. Do this with the following: > > conduit permit udp x.x.x.x 255.255.255.255 eq 63 z.z.z.z 255.255.255.255 > > Where x.x.x.x represents the outside address of the mgmt station (the > registered address) and z.z.z.z represents the inside interface (Ethernet) > of the router. This will allow TFTP from the router to the address of the > mgmt station, which will get translated as it passes through the PIX. > > As for telnet, that should work as you are going from a higher security > interface to a lower one. Check that you have "login" and a password > created under the "lines vty 0 4" section of the router config. > > If not, do this: > > enable > Switch#conf t > Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. > Switch(config)#line vty 0 4 > Switch(config-line)#login > Switch(config-line)#password cisco (or whatever you want) > Switch(config-line)#^Z > Switch# > Switch#wr mem > > Doing this will help you if the problem is a denial of telnet from the > router. If the PIX is blocking your telnet, then you should post a CLEANSED > config of the PIX so you can get help modifying it for the telnet > connection. > > Hope this helps! > > Rik > > -Original Message- > From: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 3:19 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: TFTP from inside.. > > > > Hi, > > I have my management station behind the PIX and the TFTP server is running > on that machine. I am not able to do a TFTP of the config-file of the router > which is connected to internet. I can do so for the PIX. > I have a static mapping for the mgmt station to have a valid ip address. I > also cannot do a telnet to the Router from the machine. Ma I missing > something here? > > Mgmt station--PIXRouter--Internet. > > Any help would be great. > > Thanks > > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > , > > This mail was processed by Mail essentials for Exchange/SMTP, > the email security & management gateway. Mail essentials adds > content checking, email encryption, anti spam, anti virus, > attachment compression, personalised auto responders, archiving > and more to your Microsoft Exchange Server or SMTP mail server. > For more information visit http://www.mailessentials.com > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need help on CCDA Diagrams
Hello Everybody I need to know that can i find case study diagrams on the internet somewhere for the Designing Cisco Networks book by Diane Teare. Ill be grateful to u guys. Shahid = Shahid Muhammad Shafi MSc Telecommunications Candidate University of Colorado Boulder BSEE(GIKI),MCSE+I,CNA,CCNA,CCNP,NNCAS Please help feed hungry people worldwide http://www.hungersite.com/ A small thing each of us can do to help others less fortunate than ourselves __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TFTP from inside..
A good way of trouble shooting is always to try different things even though they might not seem logical as a solution. When it works, you can always sit down an figure out why what did worked, and fine polish your configuration. First of all, I would try to use the inside address of the mgmt st. so you have the one closest to your PIX. If that works, you can always troubleshoot the path between the outside and the inside address of your mgmt st. Second, I would try to allow traffic for the same ports the reversed way too. For example you have from x.x.x.x to y.y.y.y, but try to add from y.y.y.y to x.x.x.x. Just keep trying, if it means that you have to open up for ALL traffic (you might want to disconnect the outside world while doing that) just to see if the access lists are causing the problem or not. Hth, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 3:11 PM To: 'Rik Guyler'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: TFTP from inside.. Hi... I do have the following conduit statements in the config.. conduit permit tcp host x.x.x.x eq 69 host y.y.y.y conduit permit udp host x.x.x.x eq tftp host y.y.y.y Where x.x.x.x represents the outside address of the mgmt station (the registered address) and y.y.y.y represents the inside interface (Ethernet) of the router. But still it doesn't work.. -Original Message- From: Rik Guyler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah Subject:RE: TFTP from inside.. Well, you probably don't have the correct UDP port open for TFTP to come into the network from the router. Open UDP port 63 (I think) from the outside to the inside interface for TFTP from the router to the mgmt station. Do this with the following: conduit permit udp x.x.x.x 255.255.255.255 eq 63 z.z.z.z 255.255.255.255 Where x.x.x.x represents the outside address of the mgmt station (the registered address) and z.z.z.z represents the inside interface (Ethernet) of the router. This will allow TFTP from the router to the address of the mgmt station, which will get translated as it passes through the PIX. As for telnet, that should work as you are going from a higher security interface to a lower one. Check that you have "login" and a password created under the "lines vty 0 4" section of the router config. If not, do this: enable Switch#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. Switch(config)#line vty 0 4 Switch(config-line)#login Switch(config-line)#password cisco (or whatever you want) Switch(config-line)#^Z Switch# Switch#wr mem Doing this will help you if the problem is a denial of telnet from the router. If the PIX is blocking your telnet, then you should post a CLEANSED config of the PIX so you can get help modifying it for the telnet connection. Hope this helps! Rik -Original Message- From: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 3:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: TFTP from inside.. Hi, I have my management station behind the PIX and the TFTP server is running on that machine. I am not able to do a TFTP of the config-file of the router which is connected to internet. I can do so for the PIX. I have a static mapping for the mgmt station to have a valid ip address. I also cannot do a telnet to the Router from the machine. Ma I missing something here? Mgmt station--PIXRouter--Internet. Any help would be great. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , This mail was processed by Mail essentials for Exchange/SMTP, the email security & management gateway. Mail essentials adds content checking, email encryption, anti spam, anti virus, attachment compression, personalised auto responders, archiving and more to your Microsoft Exchange Server or SMTP mail server. For more information visit http://www.mailessentials.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More bandwidth
We really own an immense thanks to Cory Williams and Lon Cameron. They got us the bandwidth and will be managing the hardware whenever there is a problem. I like you idea of a shared lab we can use for a minimal contribution. I actually have some equipment we can use. Just the problem is writing the software that will manage the equipment without user intervention. So we will need software that can reserver a time, change the passwords so they are only used during that reserved period, and clean the routers after each use. Anyone want to take on this project? Paul - Original Message - From: "Ole Drews Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Kevin Wigle'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:53 AM Subject: RE: More bandwidth > Let me waste some of this bandwitdh by joining Kevin in thanking Paul and > everyone who has helped him keeping this list running and making it even > better. > > This list has indeed helped me getting where I am now (halfway CCNP), so I > would like to make a suggestion to help Paul (and everyone who has helped > him) making sure that this list will stay the best, and keep on helping me, > you and many more in the future. > > I was born in Denmark 35 years ago, and moved to Houston, Texas 4.5 years > ago where I met my wife. However, I still like to know what silly things the > Danish government comes up with once in a while, so I joined a "danish-news" > group. This was a guy and his wife that EVERY SINGLE NIGHT sat down and > wrote about everything they had heard on the news and read in the news > papers. Thousands of Danes relocated all over the world has been very > pleased to receive those news every day, so every year, many people have > contributed a small amount of money on a check and mailed to them. They got > so much money so both him and his wife were able to fly to the World > Championship of Soccer a couple of years ago, so they could report "on-site" > about it. Danish people are also crazy about soccer. > > Anyway(s), I would like to be the first one to do this, so if you Paul would > place your address on the website (I haven't checked if it's there already) > or reply to this e-mail with it, you will soon have a small contribution > coming your way. > > I am not sure how many people are on this list, but if just one out of ten > sends $5.- or $10.- bucks, I think there's even a chance that Paul later on > could add extra features like access to Cisco equipment from his website. > > A small contribution is a drop of water compared to what "we" spend on > books, courses, equipment, etc. to end up where we're going. > > Have a great weekend, > > Ole > > > Ole Drews Jensen > Systems Network Manager > CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp > > NEED A JOB ??? > http://www.oledrews.com/job > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:25 AM > To: cisco > Subject: OT: More bandwidth > > > Hey Group! > > Off topic rants aside... :-) > > I just want to thank Paul and associates for the upgrade and new location of > the lists' server. > > When I replied earlier today to an OT post, I expected to see my post 3-4 > hours later as was normal just a few days ago. > > Very much surprised and pleased (notwithstanding content) to see how fast my > post came back. > > Great stuff! > > This will greatly help those threads that get kinda lost and out of order > due to the previous slow response time. > > A fantastic improvement for GroupStudy. > > thanks Paul > > Kevin Wigle > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BRI ISDN layer2 going to sleep
Am I correct? Can't this be handled by the: "isdn tei negotiation powerup" config command? OR setting it for tei first-call? I thought I read that power-up negotiation is set by default on cisco boxes. Thanks. --- "Erick B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gareth, > > Did you get my original response regarding checking > 'show isdn stat' when it "goes to sleep"? > > Paste the output from that when it is "sleeping". > Also, check with the ISDN provider and have them > look > at their switch to see what they see when it is > "sleeping". > > If you have a extra router with a BRI interface try > this ISDN circuit in that router to eliminate a > possible hardware problem perhaps. What IOS version > and model of router is this? > > Erick > > --- Gareth Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Thanks for the responses, but are you not talking > > about layer 3? > > During calls I have no problems. A call with > > interesting traffic will stay > > up for hours. It is during periods of no calls > that > > the layer 2 seems to go > > to sleep, so no matter whether the router sees it > as > > interesting traffic or > > not, it is not even seeing layer 2 active. > > Shut then no shut returns the layer 2 active and > > interesting traffic from > > that point will raise calls. > > Please feel free to correct me if I'm being slow, > > been a very long week. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gaz > > > > > > "Erick B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > They can also do a dialer idle either to reset > the > > > timer in both directions. > > > > > > --- Tony van Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > The dialer idle inbound is probably ok in most > > > > circumstances. We as a supplier of thousands > of > > > > dial-in type (asynch/synch and ISDN) services > do > > not > > > > place calls to the remote end. Therefore > there > > is > > > > nothing to bring up the link that is why I use > > the > > > > rip method of keeping up the service. > > > > > > > > Teunis, > > > > Hobart, Tasmania > > > > Australia > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, December 14, 2000 at 07:09:56 PM, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > Comments inline. > > > > > > > > > > --- Tony van Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is anotherone that comes up a lot > with > > > > people > > > > > > that use a service from the outside but > not > > > > always > > > > > > from within. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have the dialer-list (x) > > protocol > > > > [ip > > > > > > ipx or whatever] permit [access-list if > > wanted] > > > > set > > > > > > your dialer won't dial. > > > > > > > > > > > > If this is set but your traffic is always > > > > generated > > > > > > from outside the network then run a bogus > > rip > > > > > > process. This will send out the odd > packet > > and > > > > keep > > > > > > your link up. Only do this if you want to > > tie > > > > up > > > > > > the link. > > > > > > > > > > Starting with 12.1(5)T you can do a 'dialer > > idle > > > > ## > > > > > inbound' to reset idle timer for inbound > > traffic > > > > that > > > > > matches the dialer-list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Teunis > > > > > > Hobart, Tasmania > > > > > > Australia > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anybody experienced an ISDN BRI > "going > > to > > > > > > sleep". > > > > > > > After periods of inactivity, the layer 2 > > > > status is > > > > > > not shown as active and > > > > > > > incoming calls cannot be received. > > > > > > > Shut then no shut on interface does the > > trick. > > > > > > > I suspect this could be some > configuration > > on > > > > BT > > > > > > equipment, but is there any > > > > > > > workaround, or is there some form of > > keepalive > > > > > > which is not default. Switch > > > > > > > is basic-net3. > > > > > > > Config is a real basic one used > > successfully > > > > in > > > > > > many other locations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > - > > > > > Erick B | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > http://erickbe.home.dhs.org > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. > > Millions of > > > > Products. > > > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > www.tasmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions > of > > Products. > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > _ > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > ___
Re: BRI ISDN layer2 going to sleep
Hi Erick, Sorry, didn't get your original response until just now. Too many different e-mail accounts. Good advice though. To be honest with this one I was being nosey, with a job one of our other engineers was working on, where the outcome, due to a similar previous was to advise customer to speak to the ISDN provider to check their switch settings. This was the reason for lack of details as it was just a passing interest. Seemed like a problem that could be rectified by shut/no shut, should have a work around that could be done on the router (some sort of keepalive), which was the reason for my interest. I will track the call log and take the call if it's not rectified by ISDN provider. Let you know how it goes anyway. Thanks, Gareth ""Erick B."" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Gareth, > > Did you get my original response regarding checking > 'show isdn stat' when it "goes to sleep"? > > Paste the output from that when it is "sleeping". > Also, check with the ISDN provider and have them look > at their switch to see what they see when it is > "sleeping". > > If you have a extra router with a BRI interface try > this ISDN circuit in that router to eliminate a > possible hardware problem perhaps. What IOS version > and model of router is this? > > Erick > > --- Gareth Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Thanks for the responses, but are you not talking > > about layer 3? > > During calls I have no problems. A call with > > interesting traffic will stay > > up for hours. It is during periods of no calls that > > the layer 2 seems to go > > to sleep, so no matter whether the router sees it as > > interesting traffic or > > not, it is not even seeing layer 2 active. > > Shut then no shut returns the layer 2 active and > > interesting traffic from > > that point will raise calls. > > Please feel free to correct me if I'm being slow, > > been a very long week. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gaz > > > > > > "Erick B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > They can also do a dialer idle either to reset the > > > timer in both directions. > > > > > > --- Tony van Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > The dialer idle inbound is probably ok in most > > > > circumstances. We as a supplier of thousands of > > > > dial-in type (asynch/synch and ISDN) services do > > not > > > > place calls to the remote end. Therefore there > > is > > > > nothing to bring up the link that is why I use > > the > > > > rip method of keeping up the service. > > > > > > > > Teunis, > > > > Hobart, Tasmania > > > > Australia > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, December 14, 2000 at 07:09:56 PM, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > Comments inline. > > > > > > > > > > --- Tony van Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is anotherone that comes up a lot with > > > > people > > > > > > that use a service from the outside but not > > > > always > > > > > > from within. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have the dialer-list (x) > > protocol > > > > [ip > > > > > > ipx or whatever] permit [access-list if > > wanted] > > > > set > > > > > > your dialer won't dial. > > > > > > > > > > > > If this is set but your traffic is always > > > > generated > > > > > > from outside the network then run a bogus > > rip > > > > > > process. This will send out the odd packet > > and > > > > keep > > > > > > your link up. Only do this if you want to > > tie > > > > up > > > > > > the link. > > > > > > > > > > Starting with 12.1(5)T you can do a 'dialer > > idle > > > > ## > > > > > inbound' to reset idle timer for inbound > > traffic > > > > that > > > > > matches the dialer-list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Teunis > > > > > > Hobart, Tasmania > > > > > > Australia > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anybody experienced an ISDN BRI "going > > to > > > > > > sleep". > > > > > > > After periods of inactivity, the layer 2 > > > > status is > > > > > > not shown as active and > > > > > > > incoming calls cannot be received. > > > > > > > Shut then no shut on interface does the > > trick. > > > > > > > I suspect this could be some configuration > > on > > > > BT > > > > > > equipment, but is there any > > > > > > > workaround, or is there some form of > > keepalive > > > > > > which is not default. Switch > > > > > > > is basic-net3. > > > > > > > Config is a real basic one used > > successfully > > > > in > > > > > > many other locations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > - > > > > > Erick B | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > http://erickbe.home.dhs.org > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. > > Millions of > > > > Products. > > > > > http://shoppi
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RE: TFTP from inside..
Hi... I do have the following conduit statements in the config.. conduit permit tcp host x.x.x.x eq 69 host y.y.y.y conduit permit udp host x.x.x.x eq tftp host y.y.y.y Where x.x.x.x represents the outside address of the mgmt station (the registered address) and y.y.y.y represents the inside interface (Ethernet) of the router. But still it doesn't work.. -Original Message- From: Rik Guyler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah Subject:RE: TFTP from inside.. Well, you probably don't have the correct UDP port open for TFTP to come into the network from the router. Open UDP port 63 (I think) from the outside to the inside interface for TFTP from the router to the mgmt station. Do this with the following: conduit permit udp x.x.x.x 255.255.255.255 eq 63 z.z.z.z 255.255.255.255 Where x.x.x.x represents the outside address of the mgmt station (the registered address) and z.z.z.z represents the inside interface (Ethernet) of the router. This will allow TFTP from the router to the address of the mgmt station, which will get translated as it passes through the PIX. As for telnet, that should work as you are going from a higher security interface to a lower one. Check that you have "login" and a password created under the "lines vty 0 4" section of the router config. If not, do this: enable Switch#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. Switch(config)#line vty 0 4 Switch(config-line)#login Switch(config-line)#password cisco (or whatever you want) Switch(config-line)#^Z Switch# Switch#wr mem Doing this will help you if the problem is a denial of telnet from the router. If the PIX is blocking your telnet, then you should post a CLEANSED config of the PIX so you can get help modifying it for the telnet connection. Hope this helps! Rik -Original Message- From: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 3:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: TFTP from inside.. Hi, I have my management station behind the PIX and the TFTP server is running on that machine. I am not able to do a TFTP of the config-file of the router which is connected to internet. I can do so for the PIX. I have a static mapping for the mgmt station to have a valid ip address. I also cannot do a telnet to the Router from the machine. Ma I missing something here? Mgmt station--PIXRouter--Internet. Any help would be great. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , This mail was processed by Mail essentials for Exchange/SMTP, the email security & management gateway. Mail essentials adds content checking, email encryption, anti spam, anti virus, attachment compression, personalised auto responders, archiving and more to your Microsoft Exchange Server or SMTP mail server. For more information visit http://www.mailessentials.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TFTP from inside..
Cisco recommends not using conduits and statics. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rik Guyler Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah Subject: RE: TFTP from inside.. Well, you probably don't have the correct UDP port open for TFTP to come into the network from the router. Open UDP port 63 (I think) from the outside to the inside interface for TFTP from the router to the mgmt station. Do this with the following: conduit permit udp x.x.x.x 255.255.255.255 eq 63 z.z.z.z 255.255.255.255 Where x.x.x.x represents the outside address of the mgmt station (the registered address) and z.z.z.z represents the inside interface (Ethernet) of the router. This will allow TFTP from the router to the address of the mgmt station, which will get translated as it passes through the PIX. As for telnet, that should work as you are going from a higher security interface to a lower one. Check that you have "login" and a password created under the "lines vty 0 4" section of the router config. If not, do this: enable Switch#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. Switch(config)#line vty 0 4 Switch(config-line)#login Switch(config-line)#password cisco (or whatever you want) Switch(config-line)#^Z Switch# Switch#wr mem Doing this will help you if the problem is a denial of telnet from the router. If the PIX is blocking your telnet, then you should post a CLEANSED config of the PIX so you can get help modifying it for the telnet connection. Hope this helps! Rik -Original Message- From: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 3:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: TFTP from inside.. Hi, I have my management station behind the PIX and the TFTP server is running on that machine. I am not able to do a TFTP of the config-file of the router which is connected to internet. I can do so for the PIX. I have a static mapping for the mgmt station to have a valid ip address. I also cannot do a telnet to the Router from the machine. Ma I missing something here? Mgmt station--PIXRouter--Internet. Any help would be great. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , This mail was processed by Mail essentials for Exchange/SMTP, the email security & management gateway. Mail essentials adds content checking, email encryption, anti spam, anti virus, attachment compression, personalised auto responders, archiving and more to your Microsoft Exchange Server or SMTP mail server. For more information visit http://www.mailessentials.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TFTP from inside..
Umm... Are you allowing Telnet (port 23) and TFTP (port 69) from your mgmt workstation through the PIX??? Z >From: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: TFTP from inside.. >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:18:41 -0800 > >Hi, > >I have my management station behind the PIX and the TFTP server is running >on that machine. I am not able to do a TFTP of the config-file of the >router >which is connected to internet. I can do so for the PIX. >I have a static mapping for the mgmt station to have a valid ip address. I >also cannot do a telnet to the Router from the machine. Ma I missing >something here? > >Mgmt station--PIXRouter--Internet. > >Any help would be great. > >Thanks > > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TFTP from inside..
You might want to allow traffic through your PIX for port 69 (TFTP) and 23 (TELNET). Hth, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: TFTP from inside.. Hi, I have my management station behind the PIX and the TFTP server is running on that machine. I am not able to do a TFTP of the config-file of the router which is connected to internet. I can do so for the PIX. I have a static mapping for the mgmt station to have a valid ip address. I also cannot do a telnet to the Router from the machine. Ma I missing something here? Mgmt station--PIXRouter--Internet. Any help would be great. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TFTP from inside..
Well, you probably don't have the correct UDP port open for TFTP to come into the network from the router. Open UDP port 63 (I think) from the outside to the inside interface for TFTP from the router to the mgmt station. Do this with the following: conduit permit udp x.x.x.x 255.255.255.255 eq 63 z.z.z.z 255.255.255.255 Where x.x.x.x represents the outside address of the mgmt station (the registered address) and z.z.z.z represents the inside interface (Ethernet) of the router. This will allow TFTP from the router to the address of the mgmt station, which will get translated as it passes through the PIX. As for telnet, that should work as you are going from a higher security interface to a lower one. Check that you have "login" and a password created under the "lines vty 0 4" section of the router config. If not, do this: enable Switch#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. Switch(config)#line vty 0 4 Switch(config-line)#login Switch(config-line)#password cisco (or whatever you want) Switch(config-line)#^Z Switch# Switch#wr mem Doing this will help you if the problem is a denial of telnet from the router. If the PIX is blocking your telnet, then you should post a CLEANSED config of the PIX so you can get help modifying it for the telnet connection. Hope this helps! Rik -Original Message- From: Vasudeva Venkateshaiah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 3:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: TFTP from inside.. Hi, I have my management station behind the PIX and the TFTP server is running on that machine. I am not able to do a TFTP of the config-file of the router which is connected to internet. I can do so for the PIX. I have a static mapping for the mgmt station to have a valid ip address. I also cannot do a telnet to the Router from the machine. Ma I missing something here? Mgmt station--PIXRouter--Internet. Any help would be great. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , This mail was processed by Mail essentials for Exchange/SMTP, the email security & management gateway. Mail essentials adds content checking, email encryption, anti spam, anti virus, attachment compression, personalised auto responders, archiving and more to your Microsoft Exchange Server or SMTP mail server. For more information visit http://www.mailessentials.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TFTP from inside..
Hi, I have my management station behind the PIX and the TFTP server is running on that machine. I am not able to do a TFTP of the config-file of the router which is connected to internet. I can do so for the PIX. I have a static mapping for the mgmt station to have a valid ip address. I also cannot do a telnet to the Router from the machine. Ma I missing something here? Mgmt station--PIXRouter--Internet. Any help would be great. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Juniper
At 10:17 AM 12/15/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > is very hard to get your hands on a Juniper router... they are selling > like hotcakes. And how about Juniper stock!? &;-) >I guess you get what you pay for. >and did you hear the latest news, Cisco's lead on their MPLS design no >longer works for Cisco. Guess who he works for now? You're right, Yakov >Rekhter now works for Juniper. > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE exam
And don't forget that your answers to the survey affect your score! &;-) That sounds about as smart as the Florida thing. Seriously, I've been trying to get an answer to the question about whether the survey really affects your score. (I apologize for bringing up this annoying subject again.) Do you or anyone else know if that wording about the survey affecting your score is on the Cisco Career Certification (CCNA, DA, NP, DP) tests, or just the CCIE written test? I need to find out if I'm asking the right people. Thanks. Priscilla At 02:21 AM 12/15/00, you wrote: >Actually its done on butterfly ballots, then machine counted, then hand >counted, then hand counted again, this time looking for dimples. Next the >court orders another examination of your answer sheet, this time with the >purpose of divining how you intended to answer on all those questions you >may have forgotten to answer or did not have time to answer. For example, if >in a series of questions your answers were C, C B,B, blank, A, then the >scorer might divine that you intended to answer A instead of leave it blank, >;-> > >Chuck Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Beta
Well, it is a Beta exam. They offer it so they can work out the bugs (like the wrong title and a lack of actual design questions &;-) Did you hopefully give them lots of feedback? That's what they need. Also, don't blame the books. Most authors don't have a way of knowing what is going to be on new tests until they take the beta exam themselves. I've been trying to find out who is working on the new CID. It could very well be someone who knows the technology and doesn't have a clue what design means. We've seen that before. &;-) Priscilla At 06:45 PM 12/15/00, Shane Stockman wrote: >Well I wrote the CID Beta exam earlier today and damn was it crap.My exam >said Cisco Secure VPN on the top.It seemed like it was a test that was made >up of alot of different tests.I did'nt know that Voice and VPN and numerous >other non related design topics were part of the new CID.I used the Sybex >CID book and it barely was enough.I felt more like it was a nail the sucker >who thought he was going to save some money on a Beta Exam. > >Any comments from others who have taken this exam >_ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Route-maps and statics
Hi Is there a way of redistributing a number of static routes into eigrp, whilst altering the cost of just one of them I thought i'd be able to do it with a route-map statement but i'm having a bit of trouble getting it to work Any help would be grateful Thanks -Paul PLEASE READ: The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email you must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it and you should delete it and notify the sender immediately. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc cannot accept responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this message or any attachment(s). Please check this e-mail for virus infection, for which Nomura International plc accepts no responsibility. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not represent those of Nomura International plc. This email is intended for informational purposes only and is not a solicitation or offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. Nomura International plc is regulated by the Securities and Futures Authority Limited and is a member of the London Stock Exchange. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BRI ISDN layer2 going to sleep
Gareth, Did you get my original response regarding checking 'show isdn stat' when it "goes to sleep"? Paste the output from that when it is "sleeping". Also, check with the ISDN provider and have them look at their switch to see what they see when it is "sleeping". If you have a extra router with a BRI interface try this ISDN circuit in that router to eliminate a possible hardware problem perhaps. What IOS version and model of router is this? Erick --- Gareth Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks for the responses, but are you not talking > about layer 3? > During calls I have no problems. A call with > interesting traffic will stay > up for hours. It is during periods of no calls that > the layer 2 seems to go > to sleep, so no matter whether the router sees it as > interesting traffic or > not, it is not even seeing layer 2 active. > Shut then no shut returns the layer 2 active and > interesting traffic from > that point will raise calls. > Please feel free to correct me if I'm being slow, > been a very long week. > > Cheers, > > Gaz > > > "Erick B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > They can also do a dialer idle either to reset the > > timer in both directions. > > > > --- Tony van Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > The dialer idle inbound is probably ok in most > > > circumstances. We as a supplier of thousands of > > > dial-in type (asynch/synch and ISDN) services do > not > > > place calls to the remote end. Therefore there > is > > > nothing to bring up the link that is why I use > the > > > rip method of keeping up the service. > > > > > > Teunis, > > > Hobart, Tasmania > > > Australia > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, December 14, 2000 at 07:09:56 PM, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > Comments inline. > > > > > > > > --- Tony van Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > This is anotherone that comes up a lot with > > > people > > > > > that use a service from the outside but not > > > always > > > > > from within. > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have the dialer-list (x) > protocol > > > [ip > > > > > ipx or whatever] permit [access-list if > wanted] > > > set > > > > > your dialer won't dial. > > > > > > > > > > If this is set but your traffic is always > > > generated > > > > > from outside the network then run a bogus > rip > > > > > process. This will send out the odd packet > and > > > keep > > > > > your link up. Only do this if you want to > tie > > > up > > > > > the link. > > > > > > > > Starting with 12.1(5)T you can do a 'dialer > idle > > > ## > > > > inbound' to reset idle timer for inbound > traffic > > > that > > > > matches the dialer-list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Teunis > > > > > Hobart, Tasmania > > > > > Australia > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anybody experienced an ISDN BRI "going > to > > > > > sleep". > > > > > > After periods of inactivity, the layer 2 > > > status is > > > > > not shown as active and > > > > > > incoming calls cannot be received. > > > > > > Shut then no shut on interface does the > trick. > > > > > > I suspect this could be some configuration > on > > > BT > > > > > equipment, but is there any > > > > > > workaround, or is there some form of > keepalive > > > > > which is not default. Switch > > > > > > is basic-net3. > > > > > > Config is a real basic one used > successfully > > > in > > > > > many other locations. > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > - > > > > Erick B | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://erickbe.home.dhs.org > > > > - > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. > Millions of > > > Products. > > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > www.tasmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of > Products. > > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Beta
I comment from an engineer i work with was that the test was not much different from the IE written. 184 questions 3 hrs 6-8 weeks to find out results Brutal Duck - Original Message - From: Shane Stockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:45 PM Subject: CID Beta > Well I wrote the CID Beta exam earlier today and damn was it crap.My exam > said Cisco Secure VPN on the top.It seemed like it was a test that was made > up of alot of different tests.I did'nt know that Voice and VPN and numerous > other non related design topics were part of the new CID.I used the Sybex > CID book and it barely was enough.I felt more like it was a nail the sucker > who thought he was going to save some money on a Beta Exam. > > Any comments from others who have taken this exam > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hacking (header omitted)
Hello all, Question for you, does Cisco support TCP Rate Control or TCP Flow Control? MGR _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Beta
I took it this morning. I was happy with it. I only got 1 question that was really bad but for the most part I thought it was almost too easy. It was just very very broad range of coverage from VPN, VOICE, to OSPF & EIGRP. Many topics. 184 questions to sit through is a killer too. I am pretty sure I passed it. If I didn't then I will repost with a different opinion of the exam. :) Cory -Original Message- From: Patrick Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 1:14 PM To: Shane Stockman; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CID Beta I took it a few days back. I didn't study for it much. I just finished the CCIE written a month or so ago and I relied on much of the study from that, as well as the fact that I am a Network Designer all day long... It was very strange indeed but I was pleased with it, I think I may even pass it!! Cisco/Sylvan should hire a proof reader? It's pretty bad when you can't even get the title right. Patrick - Original Message - From: "Shane Stockman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:45 PM Subject: CID Beta > Well I wrote the CID Beta exam earlier today and damn was it crap.My exam > said Cisco Secure VPN on the top.It seemed like it was a test that was made > up of alot of different tests.I did'nt know that Voice and VPN and numerous > other non related design topics were part of the new CID.I used the Sybex > CID book and it barely was enough.I felt more like it was a nail the sucker > who thought he was going to save some money on a Beta Exam. > > Any comments from others who have taken this exam > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BRI ISDN layer2 going to sleep
Hi all, Thanks for the responses, but are you not talking about layer 3? During calls I have no problems. A call with interesting traffic will stay up for hours. It is during periods of no calls that the layer 2 seems to go to sleep, so no matter whether the router sees it as interesting traffic or not, it is not even seeing layer 2 active. Shut then no shut returns the layer 2 active and interesting traffic from that point will raise calls. Please feel free to correct me if I'm being slow, been a very long week. Cheers, Gaz "Erick B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > They can also do a dialer idle either to reset the > timer in both directions. > > --- Tony van Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The dialer idle inbound is probably ok in most > > circumstances. We as a supplier of thousands of > > dial-in type (asynch/synch and ISDN) services do not > > place calls to the remote end. Therefore there is > > nothing to bring up the link that is why I use the > > rip method of keeping up the service. > > > > Teunis, > > Hobart, Tasmania > > Australia > > > > > > On Thursday, December 14, 2000 at 07:09:56 PM, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Comments inline. > > > > > > --- Tony van Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > This is anotherone that comes up a lot with > > people > > > > that use a service from the outside but not > > always > > > > from within. > > > > > > > > If you don't have the dialer-list (x) protocol > > [ip > > > > ipx or whatever] permit [access-list if wanted] > > set > > > > your dialer won't dial. > > > > > > > > If this is set but your traffic is always > > generated > > > > from outside the network then run a bogus rip > > > > process. This will send out the odd packet and > > keep > > > > your link up. Only do this if you want to tie > > up > > > > the link. > > > > > > Starting with 12.1(5)T you can do a 'dialer idle > > ## > > > inbound' to reset idle timer for inbound traffic > > that > > > matches the dialer-list. > > > > > > > > > > > Teunis > > > > Hobart, Tasmania > > > > Australia > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > Has anybody experienced an ISDN BRI "going to > > > > sleep". > > > > > After periods of inactivity, the layer 2 > > status is > > > > not shown as active and > > > > > incoming calls cannot be received. > > > > > Shut then no shut on interface does the trick. > > > > > I suspect this could be some configuration on > > BT > > > > equipment, but is there any > > > > > workaround, or is there some form of keepalive > > > > which is not default. Switch > > > > > is basic-net3. > > > > > Config is a real basic one used successfully > > in > > > > many other locations. > > > > > > > > > = > > > - > > > Erick B | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://erickbe.home.dhs.org > > > - > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of > > Products. > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tasmail.com > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Local Director Help!!
Should work just fine. - Jon -Original Message- From: Wannabe CCIE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Local Director Help!! Jon, Thanx for replying. I have only got one switch in this set up do you reckon that would work if I split it into 2 Vlans? Bola >From: "Jon Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Wannabe CCIE'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Cisco Local Director Help!! >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:27:30 -0500 > >The local directors act like a bridge really. They take the incoming >packets >going to the Virtual IP and then hand the sessions off to the servers. >From >there the servers answer back directly to the initiator (web surfer). > >When I started here, the Local Dir's were set up just like you described. >For my own knowledge (curiosity) I took a 2924 and attached the web and >e-mail servers to it and the inside interfaces of the LD's. And kept the >outside interfaces on the main Cat5k. All kept working as before. It was >also a good way to test the failover of the LD's as well. I found the guy >before me actually had one of the LD's attached backwards. > >Hope that helps > >- Jon > >-Original Message- >From: Wannabe CCIE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:47 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Cisco Local Director Help!! > > >Dear All, >I have recently configured a Cisco Local Director which load balances >between 2 webservers but am having trouble >with the cabling,if I divide the switch into 2 Vlans, how do I get the >webservers attached to the local director in one Vlan to talk the other >Vlan. >I hope this explanation is clear..Please feel free to send any form of help >whatsoever... >Thanx > >Regards, >Miss Bola >_ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: We have moved! - No more BW problems.
Thank-you Paul, Cory, and Lon. You offer a terrific service, Paul. Priscilla At 10:39 PM 12/14/00, Paul Borghese wrote: >Two of our list members, Cory Williams and Lon Cameron have arranged for >GroupStudy to be co-located at InFlow Inc (www.inflow.com). Our previous >co-location facility was unable to provide the bandwidth needed for such a >large community. At our new location, we should see an immediate >improvement. > >The server was removed from the Atlanta co-location facility at 5:30 EST and >sent via FedEx to Southern California (great the server now lives in a >better place then I do!). Hence the 24 hour down time. I tried to redirect >traffic to a secondary server, but not all DNS servers were updated to that >new server. Sorry for any confusion this might have caused. > >Now to get Network Solutions to change our primary DNS > >Take care, > >Paul Borghese > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching method help!!
Fast switching definitely has the problem you refer to. Fast switching offers per-destination load-sharing. Since the router caches information on how to forward traffic to a destination, all traffic to that destination exits the same interface. One of the goals of CEF was to overcome this problem. I can't remember the details, but I think you can do more precise load-balancing with CEF. I'll see if I can dig up more details and get back to you. Or maybe some other folks who use CEF can chime in. Priscilla At 12:31 PM 12/13/00, Adam Hickey wrote: >Hey all, > >Question: >1) On a router with multiple outbound paths, if fast switching (or CEF) = >is enabled and outbound traffic comes through towards a given = >destination, is all traffic for that same destination then locked to the = >same path untill the route cache is cleared? > >2) If the above is yes, how long does the router maintain its route = >cache? > >Purpose: >We have a 7507 that will be running BGP over 2 T1's. We are attempting = >to establish load balancing both inbound and out. Halabi (2nd Ed.) in = >Chapter 7 warns that to do this one must be familiar with the different = >methods of switching. Thus I am studying to find the pro's and cons of = >each. CEF or fast switching sounds about right, however, the above = >question was raised as I was discussing this with our lead engineer. > > >Thank You >Adam >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Local Director Help!!
The local director is a bridge - so the frames will be bridged to the front vlan. just don't have a routed interface in the backend vlan for those load-balanced devices to use as a default route. Also, you can not have devices in back of the LD connect to VIP (virtual IP's in front) If you need this then use multiple back-end interfaces. HTH -kirk On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Wannabe CCIE wrote: > Dear All, > I have recently configured a Cisco Local Director which load balances > between 2 webservers but am having trouble > with the cabling,if I divide the switch into 2 Vlans, how do I get the > webservers attached to the local director in one Vlan to talk the other > Vlan. > I hope this explanation is clear..Please feel free to send any form of help > whatsoever... > Thanx > > Regards, > Miss Bola > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Juniper
is very hard to get your hands on a Juniper router... they are selling like hotcakes. I guess you get what you pay for. and did you hear the latest news, Cisco's lead on their MPLS design no longer works for Cisco. Guess who he works for now? You're right, Yakov Rekhter now works for Juniper. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Beta
I took it a few days back. I didn't study for it much. I just finished the CCIE written a month or so ago and I relied on much of the study from that, as well as the fact that I am a Network Designer all day long... It was very strange indeed but I was pleased with it, I think I may even pass it!! Cisco/Sylvan should hire a proof reader? It's pretty bad when you can't even get the title right. Patrick - Original Message - From: "Shane Stockman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:45 PM Subject: CID Beta > Well I wrote the CID Beta exam earlier today and damn was it crap.My exam > said Cisco Secure VPN on the top.It seemed like it was a test that was made > up of alot of different tests.I did'nt know that Voice and VPN and numerous > other non related design topics were part of the new CID.I used the Sybex > CID book and it barely was enough.I felt more like it was a nail the sucker > who thought he was going to save some money on a Beta Exam. > > Any comments from others who have taken this exam > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID Beta
Well I wrote the CID Beta exam earlier today and damn was it crap.My exam said Cisco Secure VPN on the top.It seemed like it was a test that was made up of alot of different tests.I did'nt know that Voice and VPN and numerous other non related design topics were part of the new CID.I used the Sybex CID book and it barely was enough.I felt more like it was a nail the sucker who thought he was going to save some money on a Beta Exam. Any comments from others who have taken this exam _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Token ring to Ethernet coversion
Hi, I am working on a token ring to Ethernet upgrade 2000 users. I would = like to know if anybody out there has preformed this type of conversion = before and what where the main issues. I know that MTU. and = Fragmentation will be a major concern. My feeling on this is that once = the servers get converted to Ethernet that the issues should be = alleviated. The design we have is that server's tie into 6509's = directly on one side and on the user side, tie into a 2980 which connect = to a 6509 though a fiber trunk. =20 Thanks=20 Nicholas _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
I have been pretty aggressive about keeping sales off the list. If someone abuses the list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it will be taken care of. Paul - Original Message - From: "Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:21 PM Subject: RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > Sure, if I can sell it to you > > Brian Roe (GS-11) > TDC ICAP Deployable Systems/Tactical Networks > 12 AF AFETS > 5280 E Gafford Way (Bldg.72) Suite 111 > Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ 85707 > Ph:520-228-2028 Fax:520-228-4384 > > -Original Message- > From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:36 PM > To: Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > Well brian if I ask a question about access lists and I get a reply about > buying a Cat 65xx can I borrow 50 grand. > Duck > - Original Message - > From: Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:12 AM > Subject: RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > > > > > Quick question...what is going to prevent this study group from > potentially > > turning into a sales forum? With the anonymity that the Internet provides > > for all I know the advice I get could come from a sales rep? > > > > Brian Roe (GS-11) > > TDC ICAP Deployable Systems/Tactical Networks > > 12 AF AFETS > > 5280 E Gafford Way (Bldg.72) Suite 111 > > Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ 85707 > > Ph:520-228-2028 Fax:520-228-4384 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:03 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > > > I agree, Leon should relax a little. Sure, this is a Cisco certification > > study group by name, but it has evolved to be more than that. This is > > natural considering the number of list members who have developed > > relationships with each other. We all know the regulars, and sometimes we > > go off on tangents--shop talk, that's all it is. > > > > We know that this list is here for cisco-specific topics, but it is also a > > great place to get the opinions of others who you respect and learn from, > > regardless of whether it is Cisco-specific or not. > > > > It would help if everyone made their off-topic posts very apparent by > always > > including OT in the subject line. I try to, but I don't always remember. > > Besides, there are a large number of cisco-related questions that might > not > > be specifically related to one of the Cisco certifications, and we > certainly > > would not want to ban those topics. > > > > So, everyone should do three things: > > > > 1. Chill out a little > > 2. Be more specific with subject lines > > 3. Learn to use the Delete button > > > > Regards, > > John > > > > > GEEZ Leonrelax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often. > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM > > > Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > > > > > > > > > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone > needs > > to > > > > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT > EXTREME, > > NOT > > > > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, > > LET > > > US > > > > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to > make > > a > > > > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the > > time > > > of > > > > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every > > other > > > > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to > > > > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there > > > > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air > time > > to > > > be > > > > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up > > your > > > > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of > individuals > > > who > > > > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all > I > > see > > > > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing > > that, > > > > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take > > your > > > > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical > > > > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue > > to > > > > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is > > > trying > > > > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put > > down > > > > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just > my > > 2 > > > > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point
RE: Cisco Local Director Help!!
If you have the Local Director outside interface on one vlan and the inside interface on another (servers plugged into the same one), there is no problem at all. The local director will direct the traffic from the outside vlan to the inside vlan that the servers reside on. Roman -Original Message- From: Wannabe CCIE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Local Director Help!! Jon, Thanx for replying. I have only got one switch in this set up do you reckon that would work if I split it into 2 Vlans? Bola >From: "Jon Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Wannabe CCIE'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Cisco Local Director Help!! >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:27:30 -0500 > >The local directors act like a bridge really. They take the incoming >packets >going to the Virtual IP and then hand the sessions off to the servers. >From >there the servers answer back directly to the initiator (web surfer). > >When I started here, the Local Dir's were set up just like you described. >For my own knowledge (curiosity) I took a 2924 and attached the web and >e-mail servers to it and the inside interfaces of the LD's. And kept the >outside interfaces on the main Cat5k. All kept working as before. It was >also a good way to test the failover of the LD's as well. I found the guy >before me actually had one of the LD's attached backwards. > >Hope that helps > >- Jon > >-Original Message- >From: Wannabe CCIE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:47 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Cisco Local Director Help!! > > >Dear All, >I have recently configured a Cisco Local Director which load balances >between 2 webservers but am having trouble >with the cabling,if I divide the switch into 2 Vlans, how do I get the >webservers attached to the local director in one Vlan to talk the other >Vlan. >I hope this explanation is clear..Please feel free to send any form of help >whatsoever... >Thanx > >Regards, >Miss Bola >_ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco sales engineer -- ARGH!
They all have a product to sell and "their" product IS ALWAYS the best product. Of course, the bigger margin they make the better - after all, it is nice to get those bonus checks. What so many fail to see is that different products may be better than each other for different situations. Qualify the situation, bandwidth, traffic patterns, redundancy, future growth, customer level of knowledge and experience among many other. Only after sizing up the situation, can an accurate image of what is needed appear. We can all sell what we have the trick is to sell what the customer needs. Ed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IOS Upgrade on a 2501via the console??
Hi, How do I upgrade the IOS on my 2501 via the console? I have upgraded the IOS on the 2600's and 3600's via the console with no problem but on a 2501 when I type xmodem -cthe 2501 prompts a what? Can someone please advise? Thank you. Kind regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Local Director Help!!
Jon, Thanx for replying. I have only got one switch in this set up do you reckon that would work if I split it into 2 Vlans? Bola >From: "Jon Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Wannabe CCIE'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Cisco Local Director Help!! >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:27:30 -0500 > >The local directors act like a bridge really. They take the incoming >packets >going to the Virtual IP and then hand the sessions off to the servers. >From >there the servers answer back directly to the initiator (web surfer). > >When I started here, the Local Dir's were set up just like you described. >For my own knowledge (curiosity) I took a 2924 and attached the web and >e-mail servers to it and the inside interfaces of the LD's. And kept the >outside interfaces on the main Cat5k. All kept working as before. It was >also a good way to test the failover of the LD's as well. I found the guy >before me actually had one of the LD's attached backwards. > >Hope that helps > >- Jon > >-Original Message- >From: Wannabe CCIE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:47 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Cisco Local Director Help!! > > >Dear All, >I have recently configured a Cisco Local Director which load balances >between 2 webservers but am having trouble >with the cabling,if I divide the switch into 2 Vlans, how do I get the >webservers attached to the local director in one Vlan to talk the other >Vlan. >I hope this explanation is clear..Please feel free to send any form of help >whatsoever... >Thanx > >Regards, >Miss Bola >_ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
I don't know about the rest of you, but I got REAL good at using the 'delete' button after joining the group. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
Sure, if I can sell it to you Brian Roe (GS-11) TDC ICAP Deployable Systems/Tactical Networks 12 AF AFETS 5280 E Gafford Way (Bldg.72) Suite 111 Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ 85707 Ph:520-228-2028 Fax:520-228-4384 -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:36 PM To: Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP Well brian if I ask a question about access lists and I get a reply about buying a Cat 65xx can I borrow 50 grand. Duck - Original Message - From: Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:12 AM Subject: RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > Quick question...what is going to prevent this study group from potentially > turning into a sales forum? With the anonymity that the Internet provides > for all I know the advice I get could come from a sales rep? > > Brian Roe (GS-11) > TDC ICAP Deployable Systems/Tactical Networks > 12 AF AFETS > 5280 E Gafford Way (Bldg.72) Suite 111 > Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ 85707 > Ph:520-228-2028 Fax:520-228-4384 > > -Original Message- > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:03 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > I agree, Leon should relax a little. Sure, this is a Cisco certification > study group by name, but it has evolved to be more than that. This is > natural considering the number of list members who have developed > relationships with each other. We all know the regulars, and sometimes we > go off on tangents--shop talk, that's all it is. > > We know that this list is here for cisco-specific topics, but it is also a > great place to get the opinions of others who you respect and learn from, > regardless of whether it is Cisco-specific or not. > > It would help if everyone made their off-topic posts very apparent by always > including OT in the subject line. I try to, but I don't always remember. > Besides, there are a large number of cisco-related questions that might not > be specifically related to one of the Cisco certifications, and we certainly > would not want to ban those topics. > > So, everyone should do three things: > > 1. Chill out a little > 2. Be more specific with subject lines > 3. Learn to use the Delete button > > Regards, > John > > > GEEZ Leonrelax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often. > > - Original Message - > > From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM > > Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > > > > > > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone needs > to > > > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT EXTREME, > NOT > > > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, > LET > > US > > > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to make > a > > > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the > time > > of > > > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every > other > > > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to > > > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there > > > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air time > to > > be > > > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up > your > > > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of individuals > > who > > > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all I > see > > > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing > that, > > > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take > your > > > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical > > > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue > to > > > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is > > trying > > > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put > down > > > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just my > 2 > > > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point, > > provide > > > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY > study, > > we > > > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, could > or > > > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that, > but > > > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _ > > FAQ,
RE: OSPF Virtual Link
OSPF virtual link should be used as temporary solution and should not be part of any internetwork design. The reason for that is complexity of troubleshooting virtual links. A permanent virtual link is a sign of poorly designed internetwork. No real impact in the router performance. -Original Message- From: Nabil Fares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OSPF Virtual Link Greetings all, Is there any disadvantages for using ospf virtual links? What kind of impact does it have on the router?. Thanks, Nabil _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DHCP Spanning Tree
Limiting it how? Give us more information if you don't mind. Are you running into a specific problem? -Original Message- From: A. Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DHCP Spanning Tree Has anyone had issues where DHCP limited the use of the Spanning tree = protocol? Can you send me a lead to a white paper or give me any information on = this issue? Thanks. A. Ward _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MRTG
Hello, This isn't really Certification related but it is a cool *free* toy I just setup. Multi Router Traffic Grapher(MRTG) and here is the url http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html I just set it up for our links to the Internet and it's pretty cool. The site above has some sample graphs. Thanks, Joey Fowler We are told that talent creates its own opportunities. But it sometimes seems that intense desire creates not only its own opportunities, but its own talents. - Eric Hoffer (1902-1983 American Author & Philosopher) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: More bandwidth
Let me waste some of this bandwitdh by joining Kevin in thanking Paul and everyone who has helped him keeping this list running and making it even better. This list has indeed helped me getting where I am now (halfway CCNP), so I would like to make a suggestion to help Paul (and everyone who has helped him) making sure that this list will stay the best, and keep on helping me, you and many more in the future. I was born in Denmark 35 years ago, and moved to Houston, Texas 4.5 years ago where I met my wife. However, I still like to know what silly things the Danish government comes up with once in a while, so I joined a "danish-news" group. This was a guy and his wife that EVERY SINGLE NIGHT sat down and wrote about everything they had heard on the news and read in the news papers. Thousands of Danes relocated all over the world has been very pleased to receive those news every day, so every year, many people have contributed a small amount of money on a check and mailed to them. They got so much money so both him and his wife were able to fly to the World Championship of Soccer a couple of years ago, so they could report "on-site" about it. Danish people are also crazy about soccer. Anyway(s), I would like to be the first one to do this, so if you Paul would place your address on the website (I haven't checked if it's there already) or reply to this e-mail with it, you will soon have a small contribution coming your way. I am not sure how many people are on this list, but if just one out of ten sends $5.- or $10.- bucks, I think there's even a chance that Paul later on could add extra features like access to Cisco equipment from his website. A small contribution is a drop of water compared to what "we" spend on books, courses, equipment, etc. to end up where we're going. Have a great weekend, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:25 AM To: cisco Subject: OT: More bandwidth Hey Group! Off topic rants aside... :-) I just want to thank Paul and associates for the upgrade and new location of the lists' server. When I replied earlier today to an OT post, I expected to see my post 3-4 hours later as was normal just a few days ago. Very much surprised and pleased (notwithstanding content) to see how fast my post came back. Great stuff! This will greatly help those threads that get kinda lost and out of order due to the previous slow response time. A fantastic improvement for GroupStudy. thanks Paul Kevin Wigle _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
To each his/her own. I'm following the talk about Cisco's competitors with interest. My company recently lost a couple of its CCIEs to Juniper; no doubt other present and wannabe CCIEs will "defect" to the competition. Second, on technical grounds, I've gained a better appreciation of Cisco's product lines through comparison to the competition. It's a lot more useful than someone appealing to the list for job relocation advice and whatnot. Hey, that's what DELETE is for. --Kathy M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of NP-BASS LEON Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:24 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone needs to say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT EXTREME, NOT JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, LET US NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to make a comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the time of individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every other router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air time to be critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up your own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of individuals who want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all I see and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing that, Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take your money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue to read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is trying to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put down Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just my 2 cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point, provide something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY study, we only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, could or would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that, but keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
please remove me from list
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RE: More bandwidth
Yes...much, much faster! Many thanks to all involved. -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:25 AM To: cisco Subject: OT: More bandwidth Hey Group! Off topic rants aside... :-) I just want to thank Paul and associates for the upgrade and new location of the lists' server. When I replied earlier today to an OT post, I expected to see my post 3-4 hours later as was normal just a few days ago. Very much surprised and pleased (notwithstanding content) to see how fast my post came back. Great stuff! This will greatly help those threads that get kinda lost and out of order due to the previous slow response time. A fantastic improvement for GroupStudy. thanks Paul Kevin Wigle _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DHCP Spanning Tree
Has anyone had issues where DHCP limited the use of the Spanning tree = protocol? Can you send me a lead to a white paper or give me any information on = this issue? Thanks. A. Ward _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
Well brian if I ask a question about access lists and I get a reply about buying a Cat 65xx can I borrow 50 grand. Duck - Original Message - From: Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:12 AM Subject: RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > Quick question...what is going to prevent this study group from potentially > turning into a sales forum? With the anonymity that the Internet provides > for all I know the advice I get could come from a sales rep? > > Brian Roe (GS-11) > TDC ICAP Deployable Systems/Tactical Networks > 12 AF AFETS > 5280 E Gafford Way (Bldg.72) Suite 111 > Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ 85707 > Ph:520-228-2028 Fax:520-228-4384 > > -Original Message- > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:03 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > I agree, Leon should relax a little. Sure, this is a Cisco certification > study group by name, but it has evolved to be more than that. This is > natural considering the number of list members who have developed > relationships with each other. We all know the regulars, and sometimes we > go off on tangents--shop talk, that's all it is. > > We know that this list is here for cisco-specific topics, but it is also a > great place to get the opinions of others who you respect and learn from, > regardless of whether it is Cisco-specific or not. > > It would help if everyone made their off-topic posts very apparent by always > including OT in the subject line. I try to, but I don't always remember. > Besides, there are a large number of cisco-related questions that might not > be specifically related to one of the Cisco certifications, and we certainly > would not want to ban those topics. > > So, everyone should do three things: > > 1. Chill out a little > 2. Be more specific with subject lines > 3. Learn to use the Delete button > > Regards, > John > > > GEEZ Leonrelax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often. > > - Original Message - > > From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM > > Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > > > > > > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone needs > to > > > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT EXTREME, > NOT > > > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, > LET > > US > > > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to make > a > > > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the > time > > of > > > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every > other > > > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to > > > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there > > > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air time > to > > be > > > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up > your > > > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of individuals > > who > > > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all I > see > > > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing > that, > > > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take > your > > > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical > > > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue > to > > > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is > > trying > > > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put > down > > > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just my > 2 > > > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point, > > provide > > > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY > study, > > we > > > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, could > or > > > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that, > but > > > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ___ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report miscon
OSPF Virtual Link
Greetings all, Is there any disadvantages for using ospf virtual links? What kind of impact does it have on the router?. Thanks, Nabil _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off Topic: Frame Relay vs. ADSL
Rick, I'm sure you know, but there are different levels of service level agreements. The ILEC (bell guys) have one and the DSL providers (clec) have another. In our situation, our clec (our DSL provider) has a 4 hour mean time to repair (MTR). (they are currently running at 6 hours for repairs) This is great if it the problem is within their control. If the problem escalates to the ILEC (bell guys) then the MTR is 48 hours. (bell guys are running at 72 hours). There are other issues with dropped packets and circuit management. Most DSL providers do not provide managed DSL circuits. So you will know when the circuit is down before the provider. The provider finds out when you call. If you want to know how much packet loss you are experiencing, better do it yourself if you are using DSL. I could go on and on, but the price and speed are great if you can live with the risks. Hope this helps. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:00 AM To: Rick Stanger; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Off Topic: Frame Relay vs. ADSL We do both. The only problem with ADSL is the distance limit. It is still a little flakey and even carriers will tell you not to bank your business on it. Its dependability has improved greatly in a year but still lacks a little. All in all it seems to work fairly well for our remote clients and myself at home. regards, Steve -Original Message- From: Rick Stanger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 7:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Off Topic: Frame Relay vs. ADSL Has anyone else evaluated the possibility of switching from Frame Relay = to a ADSL line? I have a remote site with approx. 50 users (only 25 max = at one time using the Internet) and I am considering switching from a = 56k Frame-Relay circuit to a Tier II 768k download speed ADSL line. = Users with the 56k Frame have been complaining about poor download = speeds and was wondering what the thoughts are on moving to ADSL? I = would be increasing the speed and saving money as well. The only = negative I have heard is time waiting to get ADSL repaired should it = fail. I need to decide quickly so any input is appreciated. Rick Stanger MCSE, CCNA _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
It has already begun it seems. "I work for Cisco", "I work for Juniper", "we are better, hands down". Technical comparisons are great because that benefits us all. General statements about which company is doing better or opinions about who's product is better don't. I love interoperability posts and information on pitfalls when dealing with various vendors. This is really helpful to us all. Once again (beating a dead horse), sales pitches shouldn't reside here. -Original Message- From: Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP Quick question...what is going to prevent this study group from potentially turning into a sales forum? With the anonymity that the Internet provides for all I know the advice I get could come from a sales rep? Brian Roe (GS-11) TDC ICAP Deployable Systems/Tactical Networks 12 AF AFETS 5280 E Gafford Way (Bldg.72) Suite 111 Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ 85707 Ph:520-228-2028 Fax:520-228-4384 -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP I agree, Leon should relax a little. Sure, this is a Cisco certification study group by name, but it has evolved to be more than that. This is natural considering the number of list members who have developed relationships with each other. We all know the regulars, and sometimes we go off on tangents--shop talk, that's all it is. We know that this list is here for cisco-specific topics, but it is also a great place to get the opinions of others who you respect and learn from, regardless of whether it is Cisco-specific or not. It would help if everyone made their off-topic posts very apparent by always including OT in the subject line. I try to, but I don't always remember. Besides, there are a large number of cisco-related questions that might not be specifically related to one of the Cisco certifications, and we certainly would not want to ban those topics. So, everyone should do three things: 1. Chill out a little 2. Be more specific with subject lines 3. Learn to use the Delete button Regards, John > GEEZ Leonrelax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often. > - Original Message - > From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM > Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > > > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone needs to > > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT EXTREME, NOT > > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, LET > US > > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to make a > > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the time > of > > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every other > > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to > > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there > > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air time to > be > > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up your > > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of individuals > who > > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all I see > > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing that, > > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take your > > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical > > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue to > > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is > trying > > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put down > > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just my 2 > > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point, > provide > > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY study, > we > > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, could or > > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that, but > > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES. > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/
OT: More bandwidth
Hey Group! Off topic rants aside... :-) I just want to thank Paul and associates for the upgrade and new location of the lists' server. When I replied earlier today to an OT post, I expected to see my post 3-4 hours later as was normal just a few days ago. Very much surprised and pleased (notwithstanding content) to see how fast my post came back. Great stuff! This will greatly help those threads that get kinda lost and out of order due to the previous slow response time. A fantastic improvement for GroupStudy. thanks Paul Kevin Wigle _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
Yes indeed-I have been trying to make this point for about a month, and I have no patience for you imbecills that take up our precious study/troubleshooting time with your incessant beckoring. Roy -Original Message- From: Raul F. Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:35 AM To: NP-BASS LEON; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP GEEZ Leonrelax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often. - Original Message - From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone needs to > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT EXTREME, NOT > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, LET US > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to make a > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the time of > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every other > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air time to be > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up your > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of individuals who > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all I see > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing that, > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take your > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue to > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is trying > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put down > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just my 2 > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point, provide > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY study, we > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, could or > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that, but > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES. > > > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic: Ryan says Merry Xmas
Don't tell me The new youngest CCIE, right? Matthew Phil Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com 12/10/2000 09:59 AM Please respond to Phil Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cisco GroupStudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Off Topic: Ryan says Merry Xmas Merry Christmas Everybody. Ryan (AGE 5) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
Quick question...what is going to prevent this study group from potentially turning into a sales forum? With the anonymity that the Internet provides for all I know the advice I get could come from a sales rep? Brian Roe (GS-11) TDC ICAP Deployable Systems/Tactical Networks 12 AF AFETS 5280 E Gafford Way (Bldg.72) Suite 111 Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ 85707 Ph:520-228-2028 Fax:520-228-4384 -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP I agree, Leon should relax a little. Sure, this is a Cisco certification study group by name, but it has evolved to be more than that. This is natural considering the number of list members who have developed relationships with each other. We all know the regulars, and sometimes we go off on tangents--shop talk, that's all it is. We know that this list is here for cisco-specific topics, but it is also a great place to get the opinions of others who you respect and learn from, regardless of whether it is Cisco-specific or not. It would help if everyone made their off-topic posts very apparent by always including OT in the subject line. I try to, but I don't always remember. Besides, there are a large number of cisco-related questions that might not be specifically related to one of the Cisco certifications, and we certainly would not want to ban those topics. So, everyone should do three things: 1. Chill out a little 2. Be more specific with subject lines 3. Learn to use the Delete button Regards, John > GEEZ Leonrelax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often. > - Original Message - > From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM > Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > > > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone needs to > > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT EXTREME, NOT > > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, LET > US > > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to make a > > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the time > of > > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every other > > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to > > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there > > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air time to > be > > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up your > > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of individuals > who > > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all I see > > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing that, > > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take your > > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical > > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue to > > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is > trying > > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put down > > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just my 2 > > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point, > provide > > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY study, > we > > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, could or > > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that, but > > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES. > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
I cant believe all you people have got the time to write these emails about this crap. You obviously need more work to do. > -Original Message- > From: John Neiberger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 15 December 2000 16:03 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > I agree, Leon should relax a little. Sure, this is a Cisco certification > study group by name, but it has evolved to be more than that. This is > natural considering the number of list members who have developed > relationships with each other. We all know the regulars, and sometimes we > go off on tangents--shop talk, that's all it is. > > We know that this list is here for cisco-specific topics, but it is also a > great place to get the opinions of others who you respect and learn from, > regardless of whether it is Cisco-specific or not. > > It would help if everyone made their off-topic posts very apparent by > always > including OT in the subject line. I try to, but I don't always remember. > Besides, there are a large number of cisco-related questions that might > not > be specifically related to one of the Cisco certifications, and we > certainly > would not want to ban those topics. > > So, everyone should do three things: > > 1. Chill out a little > 2. Be more specific with subject lines > 3. Learn to use the Delete button > > Regards, > John > > > GEEZ Leonrelax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often. > > - Original Message - > > From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM > > Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > > > > > > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone > needs > to > > > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT > EXTREME, > NOT > > > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, > LET > > US > > > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to > make > a > > > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the > time > > of > > > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every > other > > > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to > > > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there > > > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air > time > to > > be > > > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up > your > > > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of > individuals > > who > > > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all > I > see > > > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing > that, > > > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take > your > > > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical > > > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue > to > > > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is > > trying > > > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put > down > > > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just > my > 2 > > > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point, > > provide > > > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY > study, > > we > > > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, > could > or > > > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that, > but > > > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ___ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription i
RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
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Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
Also, remember - this group has had a slight design change. The group is now a combination of two groups, Professional and Tech. The Tech group may discuss any issue related to network engineering, not just Cisco products. Please read http://www.groupstudy.com/lists/cisco.html and http://www.groupstudy.com/list/changes.html for more information. Paul "John Neiberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I agree, Leon should relax a little. Sure, this is a Cisco certification > study group by name, but it has evolved to be more than that. This is > natural considering the number of list members who have developed > relationships with each other. We all know the regulars, and sometimes we > go off on tangents--shop talk, that's all it is. > > We know that this list is here for cisco-specific topics, but it is also a > great place to get the opinions of others who you respect and learn from, > regardless of whether it is Cisco-specific or not. > > It would help if everyone made their off-topic posts very apparent by always > including OT in the subject line. I try to, but I don't always remember. > Besides, there are a large number of cisco-related questions that might not > be specifically related to one of the Cisco certifications, and we certainly > would not want to ban those topics. > > So, everyone should do three things: > > 1. Chill out a little > 2. Be more specific with subject lines > 3. Learn to use the Delete button > > Regards, > John > > > GEEZ Leonrelax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often. > > - Original Message - > > From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM > > Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > > > > > > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone needs > to > > > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT EXTREME, > NOT > > > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, > LET > > US > > > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to make > a > > > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the > time > > of > > > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every > other > > > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to > > > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there > > > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air time > to > > be > > > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up > your > > > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of individuals > > who > > > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all I > see > > > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing > that, > > > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take > your > > > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical > > > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue > to > > > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is > > trying > > > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put > down > > > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just my > 2 > > > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point, > > provide > > > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY > study, > > we > > > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, could > or > > > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that, > but > > > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ___ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off Topic: Frame Relay vs. ADSL
My employer has sold a number of these kinds of solutions. Keep in mind that data flow drives your bandwidth decisions. If your data flow will not be disrupted or impaired by the asymmetric nature of DSL, then go for it. One solution that I have come to believe is quite suitable for any number of organizations provisions an ATM / IMA at the central site, and DSL at the remote sites. IMA - inverse multiplexing to ATM - puts an IMA card in a Cisco 26xx or 36xx ( available for the 72xx platform as well ). The DSL /ATM provider maps the DSL lines to ATM PVCs, giving you what are effectively point to point PVCs. This is effectively no different than putting together a frame relay or point to point network. Our marketing group calls this RLAN. It is dependent upon the DSL carrier being one and the same as your ATM provider. But it does work and can be an attractive and cost-effective means of connecting your enterprise. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Stanger Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 5:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Off Topic: Frame Relay vs. ADSL Has anyone else evaluated the possibility of switching from Frame Relay = to a ADSL line? I have a remote site with approx. 50 users (only 25 max = at one time using the Internet) and I am considering switching from a = 56k Frame-Relay circuit to a Tier II 768k download speed ADSL line. = Users with the 56k Frame have been complaining about poor download = speeds and was wondering what the thoughts are on moving to ADSL? I = would be increasing the speed and saving money as well. The only = negative I have heard is time waiting to get ADSL repaired should it = fail. I need to decide quickly so any input is appreciated. Rick Stanger MCSE, CCNA _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
I agree, Leon should relax a little. Sure, this is a Cisco certification study group by name, but it has evolved to be more than that. This is natural considering the number of list members who have developed relationships with each other. We all know the regulars, and sometimes we go off on tangents--shop talk, that's all it is. We know that this list is here for cisco-specific topics, but it is also a great place to get the opinions of others who you respect and learn from, regardless of whether it is Cisco-specific or not. It would help if everyone made their off-topic posts very apparent by always including OT in the subject line. I try to, but I don't always remember. Besides, there are a large number of cisco-related questions that might not be specifically related to one of the Cisco certifications, and we certainly would not want to ban those topics. So, everyone should do three things: 1. Chill out a little 2. Be more specific with subject lines 3. Learn to use the Delete button Regards, John > GEEZ Leonrelax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often. > - Original Message - > From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM > Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > > > > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone needs to > > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT EXTREME, NOT > > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, LET > US > > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to make a > > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the time > of > > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every other > > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to > > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there > > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air time to > be > > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up your > > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of individuals > who > > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all I see > > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing that, > > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take your > > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical > > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue to > > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is > trying > > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put down > > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just my 2 > > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point, > provide > > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY study, > we > > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, could or > > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that, but > > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES. > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can you bridge traffic with L2TP? How?
I don't have L2TP configured. Here is my situation building-01-butah-01 ---ROUTERROUTER--ROUTER-- ethernetethernet frame ethernet I need to bridge traffic from building-01-b to utah-01. I have created a tunnel from building-01-b to utah-01. I have a bridge-groups set up on both routers. Can L2TP help me out here? I don't think my IRB is working. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please help/
Here is my situation building-01-b= utah-01 -ROUTERROUTER--ROUTER-- ethernet ethernet frame = ethernet I need to bridge traffic from building-01-b to utah-01. I have created a = tunnel from building-01-b to utah-01. I have a bridge-groups set up on = both routers. Can L2TP help me out here? I don't think my IRB is = working. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off Topic: Frame Relay vs. ADSL
We do both. The only problem with ADSL is the distance limit. It is still a little flakey and even carriers will tell you not to bank your business on it. Its dependability has improved greatly in a year but still lacks a little. All in all it seems to work fairly well for our remote clients and myself at home. regards, Steve -Original Message- From: Rick Stanger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 7:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Off Topic: Frame Relay vs. ADSL Has anyone else evaluated the possibility of switching from Frame Relay = to a ADSL line? I have a remote site with approx. 50 users (only 25 max = at one time using the Internet) and I am considering switching from a = 56k Frame-Relay circuit to a Tier II 768k download speed ADSL line. = Users with the 56k Frame have been complaining about poor download = speeds and was wondering what the thoughts are on moving to ADSL? I = would be increasing the speed and saving money as well. The only = negative I have heard is time waiting to get ADSL repaired should it = fail. I need to decide quickly so any input is appreciated. Rick Stanger MCSE, CCNA _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BRS, ECP1, ACCP CCIE Practice Labs
You might be better off using the $4000 for four attempts at the lab! >From: "Bruce Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Bruce Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: BRS, ECP1, ACCP CCIE Practice Labs >Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:16:37 -0500 > >Hello all, > >I am preparing for my CCIE. I already plan to use the CCIEbootcamp labs >because I have heard great things about them, but I would also like to get >an instructor led CCIE Lab course. People in this group have mentioned the >Bridges, Routers and Switches course by ARS, and the ECP1 which I think is >also an ARS course and the ACCP course by GlobalKnowledge. I can only >afford >to do only one of these. Which one do you recommend? >Please give me your feedback, I need to get the most out of the thousands >of >dollars this is going to cost me. > > >Bruce Williams >CCNA CCDA CCNP CCDP CCAI >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
I agree that a certain amount of comparison is warranted. However, when it comes to arguments about who is better, I think it's benefit is unfounded. As always, just an opinion. :) Roman -Original Message- From: Raul F. Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:35 AM To: NP-BASS LEON; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP GEEZ Leonrelax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often. - Original Message - From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone needs to > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT EXTREME, NOT > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, LET US > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to make a > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the time of > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every other > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air time to be > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up your > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of individuals who > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all I see > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing that, > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take your > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue to > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is trying > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put down > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just my 2 > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point, provide > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY study, we > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, could or > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that, but > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES. > > > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: designing cisco networks book
The book was ok, but I thought the Cisco Certified Design Associate Study Guide by Todd Lamle provided more detail and provided an easier to read format. The Boson test are VERY helpful also. A few suggestions: don't get flustered by the Case Studies (some of them are not written very well or can be misleafing) take your time outline everything important in the case study then answer the questions Thanks Stan Rossetti Russia Services Group Voice: (256) 544-5031 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beeper: 544-5031 pin 0112 CCDA, CCNA, CCSE -Original Message- From: Craig E. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:designing cisco networks book does anyone have thought on the designing cisco networks book for ccda preparation? i have completed the ccnp and the cid 3.0 test. i need this to get my ccdp. thanks. Craig E. Smith Network Engineer _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
GEEZ Leonrelax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often. - Original Message - From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone needs to > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT EXTREME, NOT > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, LET US > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to make a > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the time of > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every other > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air time to be > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up your > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of individuals who > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all I see > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing that, > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take your > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue to > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is trying > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put down > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just my 2 > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point, provide > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY study, we > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, could or > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that, but > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES. > > > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE exam
>Actually its done on butterfly ballots, then machine counted, then hand >counted, then hand counted again, this time looking for dimples. Next the >court orders another examination of your answer sheet, this time with the >purpose of divining how you intended to answer on all those questions you >may have forgotten to answer or did not have time to answer. For example, if >in a series of questions your answers were C, C B,B, blank, A, then the >scorer might divine that you intended to answer A instead of leave it blank, >;-> > >Chuck And how is the topology maintained among multiple testing centers? The 802.1D spanning bush? > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of mak >Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 11:19 PM >To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: CCIE exam > > > >mak wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> As I check the Cisco Web site. >> There are two CCIE R&S Exams >> 1. R&S Qualification Exam (MC) > >It seems that it is written exam. I thought it is hand-written exam rather >than MC exam >:) > >> >> 2. Lab exam >> >> Is the written exam including in lab exam? >> I thought there are one written exam and one lab exam. >> >> Regards, >> mak >> >> _ >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 4000 catalyst, where isl
It does on it's Gigabit Ethernet Ports. Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Craig E. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 4000 catalyst, where isl why does the catalyst 4000 not support isl? Craig E. Smith Network Engineer _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
