Re: Word of Caution - RE: Shipping Home Lab Equipment [7:12913]

2001-07-19 Thread George Murphy CCNP, CCDA

I agree, we deal with this as well in our area and I cant believe their
disregard for
costly valuables. It seems like an easy way out without resposibility for
them. I would
just like them to consider how they would handle it if it were their
Catalyst 5002
that was being delivered to improve the network, that switches the oh so
precious data
they rely on. ;-)

Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:

 Just a word of caution for everyone out there that's buying equipment for
 their home labs.

 Yesterday I had a Catalyst 5002 delivered to my home by UPS.  It was
 packaged in a Dell computer box and left at my door.  The driver didn't
wait
 for a signture or even to see if anyone was home.  The box was left plain
 view from the street.

 Apparently, that's UPS's policy.  Unless the shipper indicates adult
 signature required, UPS can just drop your package at the front door and
 leave.  There's the fact that since it was in plain view of the street and
 since it was in a box that would be very enticing to anyone passing by,
that
 was my first concern... but the other fact is that it had just finished
 raining - and it was very likely we could get another storm shortly (since
 it's supposed to rain all week).  Just what I need -- a soggy investment!

 If you're going to be buying equipment, I really don't recommend shipping
 via UPS.  When I called UPS to complain, I was told that UPS gets more
 complaints that packages aren't left because they require signature than
 complaints over packages being left without getting a signature so they're
 not likely to change their policy any time soon (however why would they get
 complaints about packages not being left if their policy is that they can
 leave packages without signature?)

 Guh.

   -- Leigh Anne




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Re: LSA type-5 suppression across OSPF area boundaries?? [7:12917]

2001-07-19 Thread Julian Eccli

Andy,

Try the following for the 7-to-5 aggregate translation which can also be
converted to a filter by setting the restrict knob at the end:

[edit protocols ospf area 0.0.0.10]
nssa {
 area-range 10.0.0.0/8;
 }
}

http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos42/swconfig-routing42/html/ospf-co
nfig6.html

I am curious, why don't people take Juniper questions to the Juniper
Groupstudy
news group?  I know for a fact that a number of folks within Juniper lurk on
that newsgroup but not on the Cisco one.


-Julian


Andy Harding  wrote in message
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: ** excuse the change of email and name - just changed provider
:
: on a Juniper:
:
: [edit protocols ospf]
: root@router# show
: export type-5-suppress;
:
:
:
: area 0.0.0.10 {
: area-range 172.16.0.0/16;
:
: }
:
: [edit policy-options]
: root@router# show
: policy-statement type-5-suppress {
: term area-0-suppress {
: from {
: protocol ospf;
: area 0.0.0.10;
: external;
: }
: to {
: protocol ospf;
: area 0.0.0.0;
: }
: then reject;
: }
: then accept;
: }
:
: I would groom out the externals from being advertised across the area
: boundary as per above, then permit anything else to be processed as normal
: with an area-range statement to summarize.
:
: I'm interested in how one might summarize at the type-7 to type-5
: translation at an NSSA border.  Do you have the command(s) to hand?
:
: thanks
:
: Andy
:
: Peter Van Oene wrote on July 19, 2001 at 12:56 AM:
:
:
: Ok, good scenario.
:
: Assuming your network has grown to a point where type 5's are stressing the
: AS, some scaling effort must take place.  There are a number of poorly
: scaling cludges to this type of scenario outside of OSPF, but I've seen
NSSA
: areas used here with some success.  The net result is that your individual
: areas have no awareness of the more specifics in other areas which isn't
bad
: assuming your aggregation strategy is clean as they can simply follow the
: aggregates put out by the ASBRs.  Within the area, the type 7's provide
: enough info for intra area routers to make informed decisions re paths out
: toward the customer networks.  Your backbone will naturally see all
external
: info which shouldn't be an issue as a mid size ISP should have some good
: routers therein.
:
: The key point is again that type 5's are unmodified at area borders.  They
: in fact flood untouched throughout the AS.  Hence, unlike normal
summarizes,
: 5's aren't repackaged at each ABR before they hit other areas.  For that
: reason, you cannot control their flooding scope once they hit the domain
: without using area modifications like stubinness.   Interestingly,  due to
: type 7's needing to be converted to 5's by ABR's, they are repackaged
before
: entering the backbone and thus can be summarized via area-range like
: commands at ABR's.  Another reason why this is a viable solution to your
: situation.
:
: I'm also curious how you can do this with a Juniper?  Can you provide a
: quick outline?
:
: Thanks
:
: Peter
:
:
: *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
:
: On 7/18/2001 at 4:54 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:
: okay, let me give you a scenario:
: 
: say you have a mid-sized ISP network - a size such that it's not really
: worth going with confederations, etc.
: 
: say that you have a couple of PoPs and a couple of colo/hosting centres.
: 
: let's suppose that we want to run an area0 backbone between the sites, and
: have the infrastructure of each site be an OSPF area.
: 
: a bunch of your customers want to multi-home within a particular location
: to
: multiple switches/routers, and since you don't really want the customer to
: participate in your IGP (auughhh) you have to statically route them, and
: redistribute the routes within the area.  summarizing lsa type-5s at each
: ASBR is out, as a customer could drop their uplink to that ASBR, without
: the
: summarizing ASBR dropping the aggregate which would kinda kill their
: traffic
: - good ol' CEF keeps a-load-balancing half the traffic to the router
: without
: a route... ;-)
: 
: hence, this is why I want full specifics intra-area, and aggregate-only
: inter-area.
: 
: I could do it on a Juniper dammit...
: 
: take care  :-)
: 
: Andy
: 
: Peter Van Oene wrote on July 18, 2001 at 9:14 PM:
: 
: Ahh, I did indeed mean to suggest that you filter at the ingress ASBR (the
: one that creates the type 5 in the first place)  Type 5's are unmodified
: throughout the AS and thus there is no mechanism within the protocol to
: control their flow between areas.  However, I'm confused as to why you
need
:
: the full specifics advertised to the area and only the summary to the rest
: of the AS.  Even if you have multiple customer networks attached to the
: ASBR, you are still going to pull traffic destined toward them to the ASBR
: via the aggregate.  What are you gaining by not using 

network design [7:12918]

2001-07-19 Thread Farhan Ahmed

any thoughts welcome

we have a lan including proxy server and database server
there are two depts in the lan , one public and one private, ther is no vlan
and not supported on switch
the public department connect to the internet via proxy server which has a
acounting software connection to the database server ON GIGABIT in the
private lan that logs all the timmings for internet for billing purpose

they company wants to put a PIX but want to keep the gigabit conection




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Cisco Press Books for sale (Cheap!!!) [7:12919]

2001-07-19 Thread JC

Hello,

As I continue to sell off my book collection I just wanted to update you
on what I have left.



1) Cisco CCNA Library
Contains the following books:
a) Introduction to Cisco Router Configuration.
b) CCNA Exam Certification Guide
c) Advanced Cisco Router Configuration
d) CCNP Study Guide (Sybex)

*I'm selling this set of books for $100.00**


2) Mastering Cisco Routers (Sybex)

*I'm selling this book for $40.00*  (This book is extremely
practicle, its not over-indulged with certification stuff, instead it is
concerned with teaching you how to deal with real life scenarios.  This
is a real-world book.  A must have for any serious Network Engineer!!!


3) Designing Wide Area Networks and Internetworks (A Practical Guide)

*I'm selling this book for $40.00*  (I payed $60.00 for this
book and it has been worth every penny, this book takes you through
networking not only from Ciscos perspective but from a multi-vendor
perspective, it makes you think about the big picture when designing a
network for WANs, LAN to WAN, Security, health check monitoring,
best equipment to use, things to consider when attaching to the internet,
and telecommunciations in general.  EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT,
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4) All-IN-One CCIE Study Guide (Second Edition) by Giles

*This book is brand new I have not used it, I'm selling it for
$40.00 --  A CCIE candidate must have


5) Internetworking Technologies Handbook (Second Edition) by Cisco Press


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books please send me an e-mail to:


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Why ISDN backup line come up ? [7:12920]

2001-07-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello all.
I have 2 routers connected using leased line.Now I am trying to put a ISDN
backup ,but the backup line does not come up.
The status of ISDN line when the serial int. is up ,is
 BRI2/2 is standby mode, line protocol is down
and should change to up upon going the serial line down but it's status
remain unchanged even the serial link goes down .
I have configued the serial int with
backup interface BRI2/2
backup delay 5 10
commands . Also i tried to simulate the situation by putting the modem at
Router A off to trigger the backup ISDN call but it does not happen and the
ISDN status remain in standyby mode only.
Can anybody help whether anyadditional command needs to be put up in either
Serial or Bri interfaces?
I am giving here th configuration of both the routers,
routerA#

 interface BRI2/2
 description Backup connectivity 
 ip address 172.16.128.49 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer map ip 172.16.128.50 name routerB  x
 dialer-group 2
 isdn switch-type basic-net3

interface Serial1/3
 description Leased link to RouterB
 bandwidth 128
 backup delay 5 10
 backup interface BRI2/2
 ip address 172.16.128.17 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 no ip mroute-cache



RouterB#
interface BRI1/2
 description Backup connectivity for RouterA
 ip address 172.16.128.50 255.255.255.252
 encapsulation ppp
 no logging event subif-link-status
 dialer idle-timeout 3000
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60
 dialer map ip 172.16.128.49 name routerB YYY
 dialer-group 1
 no fair-queue

interface Serial0/0
 ip address 172.16.128.18 255.255.255.252
 logging event subif-link-status
 bandwidth 128

 hold-queue 75 in


Thanks in advance for help
Regards

Bware




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network design (updated) [7:12921]

2001-07-19 Thread Farhan Ahmed

any thoughts welcome

we have a lan including proxy server and database server
there are two depts in the lan , one public and one private, ther is no vlan
and not supported on switch
the public department connect to the internet via proxy server which has a
acounting software connection to the database server ON GIGABIT AND WANT TO
SEPERATE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE LAN , PROXY SERVER SHOULD ONLY ALLOWED TO TALK
TO DATABASE SERVER AND NO OTHER PC in the private lan that logs all the
timmings for internet for billing purpose

they company wants to put a PIX but want to keep the gigabit conection




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RE: E1 interface [7:12864]

2001-07-19 Thread Matthew Crane

Hi Matt

Hm, having seen some of the replies you have had I wander just how many
people have actualyl used an E1, not many of thnose replying for sure.

1. Is it a genuine E1 and if so how many channels or is it a variant called
ISDN-30 and is the line being supplied balanced or unbalanced.
E1 usually comes in bundles of 32 channels, 30 for data/voice and 2
signalling channels. ISDN-30 is a simple 30 channels with 29 for data/voice.
This really only affects the timeslopts allocated and the control channel
you refer to in the configuration. Generally you only go for balanced.

2. Which router are you proposing ? - I'd suggest a 2600 as the minimum with
an NM-1CE1B module. The WIC-1T just will not cut it.

3. In most European countries the presentation will be either twin coax or
RJ48 socket which requires an RJ45 plug.

If you wnat to take this offline then let me know I can also supply with
some sample configurations for E1 and ISDN-30 taken from some of my customers.

Cheers

Matt wrote:
 
 Hey, I know that this sounds dumb, but I've never had to
 install, configure,
 or support an E1 interface.  So today I went to put together a
 sales order
 for someone installing a router in Europe, and the only E1
 interfaces I can
 find are PRI and multiflex (?) for doing voice and data. 
 Obviously I need
 to get more info from the provider over there, but I'm
 wondering what I'm
 missing.  With a T1 interface, you just have to decide whether
 or not it
 gets an internal CSU/DSU or not and then order a WIC-T1 or a
 WIC-1DSU-T1.
 Help!
 
 




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RE: Why ISDN backup line come up ? [7:12920]

2001-07-19 Thread Damien Kelly

backup interface BRI2/2
backup delay 5 10

These are all thats required to specify backup interface,  

Have you tested the BRI?

Have you added a route with a metric for the ISDN IP range

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0  10

Can't think of anything else.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Why ISDN backup line come up ? [7:12920]


Hello all.
I have 2 routers connected using leased line.Now I am trying to put a ISDN
backup ,but the backup line does not come up.
The status of ISDN line when the serial int. is up ,is
 BRI2/2 is standby mode, line protocol is down
and should change to up upon going the serial line down but it's status
remain unchanged even the serial link goes down .
I have configued the serial int with
backup interface BRI2/2
backup delay 5 10
commands . Also i tried to simulate the situation by putting the modem at
Router A off to trigger the backup ISDN call but it does not happen and the
ISDN status remain in standyby mode only.
Can anybody help whether anyadditional command needs to be put up in either
Serial or Bri interfaces?
I am giving here th configuration of both the routers,
routerA#

 interface BRI2/2
 description Backup connectivity 
 ip address 172.16.128.49 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer map ip 172.16.128.50 name routerB  x
 dialer-group 2
 isdn switch-type basic-net3

interface Serial1/3
 description Leased link to RouterB
 bandwidth 128
 backup delay 5 10
 backup interface BRI2/2
 ip address 172.16.128.17 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 no ip mroute-cache



RouterB#
interface BRI1/2
 description Backup connectivity for RouterA
 ip address 172.16.128.50 255.255.255.252
 encapsulation ppp
 no logging event subif-link-status
 dialer idle-timeout 3000
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60
 dialer map ip 172.16.128.49 name routerB YYY
 dialer-group 1
 no fair-queue

interface Serial0/0
 ip address 172.16.128.18 255.255.255.252
 logging event subif-link-status
 bandwidth 128

 hold-queue 75 in


Thanks in advance for help
Regards

Bware
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Re: ipsec and nat [7:12825]

2001-07-19 Thread Ross McCormick

Two scenarios:

1)   End point --- NAT --- IPSec --- IPSec --- Endpoint
2)   End point --- IPSec --- NAT --- IPSec --- Endpoint

Ignoring fancy tricks, scenario 1 will work whereas 2 will fail.  

IPSec encapsalates the IP address within the encrypted packet, so if there
is a NAT device in the IPSec path the IPSec tunnel will fail.

Cisco have a number of documents regarding the options of dealing with
NAT/IPSec combinations at TAC, so I recommend starting there.

Ross


Fly Ers wrote:
 
 Dennis,
 I am not referring to vpn client, but having a lan-lan vpn
 setup where
 networks on both sides of the endpoints are configured with
 overlapping
 address space.  one side of the tunnel is a hiding (nat on a
 non-cisco
 device) behind one address.  there is a vpn3000 on the other
 end that can
 not perform the translation and route it over the IPsec tunnel.
 thanks.
 
 
 From: Dennis H 
 Reply-To: Dennis H 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ipsec and nat [7:12825]
 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:23:48 -0400
 
 I believe you mean ipsec over nat, as opposed to nat over
 ipsec... the vpn
 concentrators can do it using udp port forwarding but this
 only work if
 you're using Cisco's vpn client.
 
 
 Fly Ers  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Anyone confirm whether pix, concentrator or ipsec router
 has the ability
 to
   nat over ipsec?  i know that I can nat everything on a
 router behind one
 of
   these devices.
  
   Thanks.
  
  
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Re: Question About Ciscowork [7:12621]

2001-07-19 Thread norsyam ariffin

I cannot set snmp string for ANI server.

From: Sasa Milic Reply-To: Sasa Milic To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Question About Ciscowork [7:12621] Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001
17:11:11 -0400  Syam,  I've recently installed CW2000, after numerous
problems with ANI. What exactly is happening ? Topology window couldn't
connect to ANI server or ... ?  Regards,  Sasa  norsyam ariffin
wrote: Hi gys. Currently I' m installing Ciscowork 2000,
but have some problem regarding   ANI server. I cannot make the ANI
server up. Could anybody gime some hint on   how to make the ANI
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FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]

2001-07-19 Thread Andrew Larkins

This is what I received from a colleague.

Is this true?
http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html




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Passed the CCIE written exam today.... [7:12927]

2001-07-19 Thread Ahmed Amimi

Hi,
Today i took the exam at 9:00 morning and ended the exam on the last
min
i passed the exam with 71 marks and 70 was the passing WOW!!! too
close...
i was expecting more marks but didn't get... so its my advice to all to
study hard for the exam as it is not so much easy as i thinked off.
I have learn by hard the CCNP2.0 course (cover to cover) and was
thinking that i can do the CCIE too for just covering my left over
topics that is ATM, FR, QoS, SRB, RSRB,DSLW+ etc...
but this didnt work the exam was tuff

I have studied from the following books... they are just great..

all in one lab study guide
routing TCP/IP (jeff)
router bridges and swtices (second edition)
CCIE preparation (todd lamede). good book...

u can not cover one topic from one book so u have to read all the
books

anyways the paper is cleared . either it should be of good marks
or just pass the one thing i know is that i cleared the paper and is
heading toword my CCIE lab thatz a loog jurney. as
the lab is in my opinion is 10 times harder then the written exam...
(hope for high).

-Mamoor
CNE, MCT, CCIE (feature)
CCIP (feature)




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Re: WAN link funnies - UP UP but no comms- on same subnet!!! [7:12928]

2001-07-19 Thread Gayathri

make sure you don thave the command 'no keepalive' in the interface which is
affected

Hire, Ejay  wrote in message
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 Based on what I'm seeing, I think there is a problem with the data
returning
 from the telco cloud.  Can you loopback the CSU/DSU and see if your RX
 counter increments? If yes, Then switch the cable from the csu/dsu to the
 smartjack.  Un=loop and test.  If it still doesn't work, Loopback the
 smartjack and see if you can see the loopback remotely.  If you can't,
call
 the Loop Provider, there is a problem with the loop.

 -ejh

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 6:06 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: WAN link funnies - UP UP but no comms- on same subnet!!!
 [7:12774]


 HI all,

 Strange problem here.

 The serial interface are UP UP on both sides, but we are not able to ping
 each other  - even though directly connected. A debug ip ICMP on the
 remote site shows the ping coming through and replying, but the reply
never
 gets back.
 Also the remote site saw my router using CDP, but I do not see him.

 Any ideas??

 I believe this is Telco related, but the line shows clean from the
interface
 stats

 Andrew




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Re: LSA type-5 suppression across OSPF area boundaries?? [7:12929]

2001-07-19 Thread Andy Harding

Julian,

thanks for the command - what I was really looking for was the cisco
equivalent :-)

if you had read the rest of the thread (20 or so messages) you would see
that this *is* a cisco-related query.  I am looking for a way to do
something on Ciscos, and was bemoaning the fact that I could do what I
wanted easily under JunOS - Peter asked how I would do it with that OS, so I
posted the config excerpt.

thanks anyway

Andy

Julian Eccli wrote on July 19, 2001 at 7:54 AM:
 Andy,

 Try the following for the 7-to-5 aggregate translation which can also be
 converted to a filter by setting the restrict knob at the end:

 [edit protocols ospf area 0.0.0.10]
 nssa {
  area-range 10.0.0.0/8;
  }
 }


http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos42/swconfig-routing42/html/osp
f-co
 nfig6.html

 I am curious, why don't people take Juniper questions to the Juniper
 Groupstudy
 news group?  I know for a fact that a number of folks within Juniper lurk
on
 that newsgroup but not on the Cisco one.


 -Julian


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 : ** excuse the change of email and name - just changed provider
 :
 : on a Juniper:
 :
 : [edit protocols ospf]
 : root@router# show
 : export type-5-suppress;
 :
 :
 :
 : area 0.0.0.10 {
 : area-range 172.16.0.0/16;
 :
 : }
 :
 : [edit policy-options]
 : root@router# show
 : policy-statement type-5-suppress {
 : term area-0-suppress {
 : from {
 : protocol ospf;
 : area 0.0.0.10;
 : external;
 : }
 : to {
 : protocol ospf;
 : area 0.0.0.0;
 : }
 : then reject;
 : }
 : then accept;
 : }
 :
 : I would groom out the externals from being advertised across the area
 : boundary as per above, then permit anything else to be processed as
normal
 : with an area-range statement to summarize.
 :
 : I'm interested in how one might summarize at the type-7 to type-5
 : translation at an NSSA border.  Do you have the command(s) to hand?
 :
 : thanks
 :
 : Andy
 :
 : Peter Van Oene wrote on July 19, 2001 at 12:56 AM:
 :
 :
 : Ok, good scenario.
 :
 : Assuming your network has grown to a point where type 5's are stressing
the
 : AS, some scaling effort must take place.  There are a number of poorly
 : scaling cludges to this type of scenario outside of OSPF, but I've seen
 NSSA
 : areas used here with some success.  The net result is that your
individual
 : areas have no awareness of the more specifics in other areas which isn't
 bad
 : assuming your aggregation strategy is clean as they can simply follow
the
 : aggregates put out by the ASBRs.  Within the area, the type 7's provide
 : enough info for intra area routers to make informed decisions re paths
out
 : toward the customer networks.  Your backbone will naturally see all
 external
 : info which shouldn't be an issue as a mid size ISP should have some good
 : routers therein.
 :
 : The key point is again that type 5's are unmodified at area borders.
They
 : in fact flood untouched throughout the AS.  Hence, unlike normal
 summarizes,
 : 5's aren't repackaged at each ABR before they hit other areas.  For that
 : reason, you cannot control their flooding scope once they hit the domain
 : without using area modifications like stubinness.   Interestingly,  due
to
 : type 7's needing to be converted to 5's by ABR's, they are repackaged
 before
 : entering the backbone and thus can be summarized via area-range like
 : commands at ABR's.  Another reason why this is a viable solution to your
 : situation.
 :
 : I'm also curious how you can do this with a Juniper?  Can you provide a
 : quick outline?
 :
 : Thanks
 :
 : Peter
 :
 :
 : *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
 :
 : On 7/18/2001 at 4:54 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 :
 : okay, let me give you a scenario:
 : 
 : say you have a mid-sized ISP network - a size such that it's not really
 : worth going with confederations, etc.
 : 
 : say that you have a couple of PoPs and a couple of colo/hosting
centres.
 : 
 : let's suppose that we want to run an area0 backbone between the sites,
and
 : have the infrastructure of each site be an OSPF area.
 : 
 : a bunch of your customers want to multi-home within a particular
location
 : to
 : multiple switches/routers, and since you don't really want the customer
to
 : participate in your IGP (auughhh) you have to statically route them,
and
 : redistribute the routes within the area.  summarizing lsa type-5s at
each
 : ASBR is out, as a customer could drop their uplink to that ASBR,
without
 : the
 : summarizing ASBR dropping the aggregate which would kinda kill their
 : traffic
 : - good ol' CEF keeps a-load-balancing half the traffic to the router
 : without
 : a route... ;-)
 : 
 : hence, this is why I want full specifics intra-area, and aggregate-only
 : inter-area.
 : 
 : I could do it on a Juniper dammit...
 : 
 : take care  :-)
 : 
 : Andy
 : 
 : Peter Van Oene wrote on 

RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]

2001-07-19 Thread Phil Barker

Ole,
I think I know where Priscilla is coming from.
I developed software for 10 years (mainly C/C++)
before turning to Network Engineering. The difference
in the roles in my experience has been dramatic.
Software Engineering requires an intensity of
concentration that I can only compare to playing
chess. I was rarely required to interact with
customers and as a result my interpersonal skills
didn't develop.
 I took my first job in Networking for a major
bank. This was very open plan and one day the team
leader called the regular meeting. Everyone shuffled
towards the meeting room EXCEPT me. 45 mins later my
team leader came looking for me. I was still at my
desk, deep in concentration. She couldn't stop
laughing as everyone else was taking bets as to when I
would realise that no-one else was there. I hadn't
noticed a thing. 
 Customer interaction has also been a learning
curve but fortunately I appear to have picked this
skill up quite naturally. 
 I am much happier in my work now and don't intend
to return to Software Development. Both Software
development and Network Engineering are such wide and
diverse fields you cannot possibly keep up with both.
 I havn't written Software for 5 years now and
while the logical skill required to do so will never
leave me the Microsoft Foundation Clases certainly
have.

Regards,

Phil.
--- Ole Drews Jensen  wrote: 
I don't agree with your Priscilla.
 
 Again, I am not a CCIE yet, but I'm on my way. I
 like doing both things (and
 system administration), but then again - maybe I
 have a split personality
 8^O
 
 I agree with you about not finding many with this
 skill, but hopefully I
 will become one soon.
 
 Take care,
 
 Ole
 
 ~~~
  Ole Drews Jensen
  Systems Network Manager
  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~~~ 
  http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP
 ~~~
  NEED A JOB ???
  http://www.oledrews.com/job
 ~~~
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 1:52 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]
 
 
 That's a scary thought: CCIEs who develop protocols.
 ;-]
 
 They are looking for software engineers. They aren't
 going to find many 
 that have a CCIE? It's a different skill set and
 requires a different type 
 of personality.
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 09:41 AM 7/18/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
 Forgive me for sending this here, I know there's a
 place for job
 discussions, but I noticed that there have been
 several e-mails about how
 CCIE's now have a harder time getting jobs.
 
 I received this e-mail (look at the message
 included after my signature) on
 another Cisco list I'm a member of:
 
 Hth,
 
 Ole
 
 ~~~
   Ole Drews Jensen
   Systems Network Manager
   CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
   RWR Enterprises, Inc.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~~~
   http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP
 ~~~
   NEED A JOB ???
   http://www.oledrews.com/job
 ~~~
 
 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:11:26 -
 From: JDO 
 Subject: Looking for a Special Kind of CCIE
 
 Hello,
 
 My name is Johnna Smith and I work for a placement
 firm in Dallas,
 Texas. I am in desperate need of a CCIE that
 DEVELOPS routing
 protocols. I need them to have BGP, DSPF, IS-IS,
 and MPLS. The must
 be a software engineer and they must be degreed.
 
 If any of you could help me, please give me a call
 or shoot me an
 email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  or at
 972-991-7569.
 
 Just to take a look at someof our other positions
 please go to
 
 
 We also work with another agency that focuese more
 on IT, you can
 find their site at
 
 Thanks
 
 Johnna
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12931]

2001-07-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How do you figure Extreme is in trouble? Monday's WSJ had an article about
the tech stocks slump and Extreme, Foundry, as well as a few others were
noted as part of the 15% that was generally considered to have turned the
corner and shown improvement.

Just curious, I hadn't heard anything about them being in trouble, on top
of that we just bought a boatload of their switches (which do seem so far
to work very well by the way)...

I need my car washed! :) Do you need any fries (chips) with that?


   

   
hal9001

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07/18/2001
04:06
PM
   
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respond
to
   
hal9001
   

   





Fine but the obvious one is Nortel, but look how many they have fired,
Ericsson the same and I've had experience of their Tigress and Congo/Danube
etc range.  Bad support for a poor product.  Extreme are in trouble,
Juniper
and Foundry very small.  3Com basically out of it and I think must have
seen
it coming.  I am of the opinion you really have to get a wide spread of
experience and certifications.



Anyone need the car washing?

Karl
- Original Message -
From:
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
[7:12861]


 Its my believe that by being a CISCO person, it does not
 UN-qualify any one of us to work with other vendor
 equipment.  What we now need to do is learn the other
 companies products so we have the edge on the situation.

 With some minor tweaks we should be able to support
 other equipment.

 This applies to all pc environments.  The basics are the
 same, the rules - different order.
  The market conditions are really depressing right now but that does not
 mean
  that people
  give up their dreams and stop working towards them . If you look at
all
 the
  certifications like CNE and MCSE they all had their better days and
anyone
  who had them
  was king but not anymore .That is the certification market  for you .
Every
  certification has a life and it is upto the Company to give its
  certification a longer
  life by making it more and more difficult and I guess Cisco has done a
  commendable job
  on that for the past 8 years but I think what cisco needs right now is
more
  people using
  thier products out their in the market so that they don't get crushed
by
 the
  competition
  . So with that said , teh CCIE might still be able to get you in a lot
of
  positions and
  then its upto you . Just my 2 cents
 
  Jaspreet
 
  Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
   At 10:31 PM 7/17/01, KY wrote:
  
   Here is what I came across from   Mentortech's web site on the
 experience
  of
   a receiptionist they are looking for:
   Education  Experience:
   At least one year previous experience as a receptionist, with
multi-line
   phone system.
   
   What kind of phone system needs someone to get to level of being
able
to
  use
   it a year later?
  
   It's VoIP. Just kidding. ;-)
  
   A 12 year old can learn how to use any phone system in the world in
less
   than 20mins.
   
   I guess in mentortech, they are looking for the Queen of experience.
  
   Or King. In the U.S. it is illegal to specify the sex of the job
 candidate
   you are  seeking.
  
   I know the reality is every employer is looking for experienced
people,
  but
   it does not mean it is not rediculous, at least in my eyes. The
first
 one
   implented MPLS on their proudction network had to use
inexperienced
   engineers doing it, I am pretty sure about that.
   
   Just my .02.
   
   KY
   
  
   Priscilla Oppenheimer
   http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]

2001-07-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Employers/recruiters miss some excellent by being de-greedy...



In a message dated 7/18/01 3:59:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I'd be more concerned that recruiters are starting to look for peopled who
 have been de-greed.  This could hurt me personally, because I've definitely
 got my greed chromosome intact.  I had no idea this could be removed.  Next
 they'll be trying to have our spines removed and call us de-boned.
 
 --- Dennis
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Medeiros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:42 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]
 
 
 I want to be a developer for DSPF 
 
 What is that?
 
 Dumbest Shortest Path First ?
 
 
 
  My name is Johnna Smith and I work for a placement firm in Dallas,
  Texas. I am in desperate need of a CCIE that DEVELOPS routing
  protocols. I need them to have BGP, DSPF, IS-IS, and MPLS. The must
  be a software engineer and they must be degreed.




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Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12933]

2001-07-19 Thread hal9001

They have retracted and pulled back from many areas they were to develop and
promised developments were not delivered.  I worked for one of their
resellers, what we were promised one minute was not delivered the next.

Support fell like a stone as did staff their end, we could not give away
their kit and there was a flight to quality i.e. Cisco/Nortel.  In addition
their power supplies were suspect and we were forever returning their S24's
and S48's, if it was not for that then it was their ASICS and Ports packing
up.  Once one went others soon followed.

We had software problems with Black Diamond Blades and you had to be very
careful what blades and software you mixed which was never made to clear
until it all went wrong.  Put two of those beasts in a room and it sounded
like a fully loaded B29 on takeoff.  Quality control was not that good.  If
you have got Extreme (unless you are a reseller) you will never be
unemployed, you will always be replacing them and having to tweak them.
Best of British mateOh by the way dI hope you are not using
ESRP...you'll have lots of fun with that watching the kit go up and down
and take other vendors/peoples kit out!

Karl
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
[7:12931]


 How do you figure Extreme is in trouble? Monday's WSJ had an article about
 the tech stocks slump and Extreme, Foundry, as well as a few others were
 noted as part of the 15% that was generally considered to have turned the
 corner and shown improvement.

 Just curious, I hadn't heard anything about them being in trouble, on top
 of that we just bought a boatload of their switches (which do seem so far
 to work very well by the way)...

 I need my car washed! :) Do you need any fries (chips) with that?





 hal9001

 cc:
 Sent by: Subject: Re: CCIE market
FLOOD
 !!  was: Current Wait time on the
 nobody@groupslab
 [7:12867]

 tudy.com



 07/18/2001
 04:06
 PM

 Please
 respond
 to

 hal9001






 Fine but the obvious one is Nortel, but look how many they have fired,
 Ericsson the same and I've had experience of their Tigress and
Congo/Danube
 etc range.  Bad support for a poor product.  Extreme are in trouble,
 Juniper
 and Foundry very small.  3Com basically out of it and I think must have
 seen
 it coming.  I am of the opinion you really have to get a wide spread of
 experience and certifications.



 Anyone need the car washing?

 Karl
 - Original Message -
 From:
 To:
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:33 PM
 Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
 [7:12861]


  Its my believe that by being a CISCO person, it does not
  UN-qualify any one of us to work with other vendor
  equipment.  What we now need to do is learn the other
  companies products so we have the edge on the situation.
 
  With some minor tweaks we should be able to support
  other equipment.
 
  This applies to all pc environments.  The basics are the
  same, the rules - different order.
   The market conditions are really depressing right now but that does
not
  mean
   that people
   give up their dreams and stop working towards them . If you look at
 all
  the
   certifications like CNE and MCSE they all had their better days and
 anyone
   who had them
   was king but not anymore .That is the certification market  for you .
 Every
   certification has a life and it is upto the Company to give its
   certification a longer
   life by making it more and more difficult and I guess Cisco has done a
   commendable job
   on that for the past 8 years but I think what cisco needs right now is
 more
   people using
   thier products out their in the market so that they don't get crushed
 by
  the
   competition
   . So with that said , teh CCIE might still be able to get you in a lot
 of
   positions and
   then its upto you . Just my 2 cents
  
   Jaspreet
  
   Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
  
At 10:31 PM 7/17/01, KY wrote:
   
Here is what I came across from   Mentortech's web site on the
  experience
   of
a receiptionist they are looking for:
Education  Experience:
At least one year previous experience as a receptionist, with
 multi-line
phone system.

What kind of phone system needs someone to get to level of being
 able
 to
   use
it a year later?
   
It's VoIP. Just kidding. ;-)
   
A 12 year old can learn how to use any phone system in the world in
 less
than 20mins.

I guess in mentortech, they are looking for the Queen of
experience.
   
Or King. In the U.S. it is illegal to specify the sex of the job
  candidate
you are  seeking.
   
I know the reality is every employer is looking for experienced
 people,
   but
it does not mean it is not rediculous, at least in my eyes. The
 first
  one
  

RE: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12934]

2001-07-19 Thread Thompson, Robert D

I have had the same problems with Cabletron/Enterasys SSR equipment. 

Its seems that some companies put money into QA and some rely on old
customers to do it for them

Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: hal9001 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 19 July 2001 12:39
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: CCIE market FLOOD !!  was: Current Wait time on the lab
 [7:12933]
 
 They have retracted and pulled back from many areas they were to develop
 and
 promised developments were not delivered.  I worked for one of their
 resellers, what we were promised one minute was not delivered the next.
 
 Support fell like a stone as did staff their end, we could not give away
 their kit and there was a flight to quality i.e. Cisco/Nortel.  In
 addition
 their power supplies were suspect and we were forever returning their
 S24's
 and S48's, if it was not for that then it was their ASICS and Ports
 packing
 up.  Once one went others soon followed.
 
 We had software problems with Black Diamond Blades and you had to be very
 careful what blades and software you mixed which was never made to clear
 until it all went wrong.  Put two of those beasts in a room and it sounded
 like a fully loaded B29 on takeoff.  Quality control was not that good.
 If
 you have got Extreme (unless you are a reseller) you will never be
 unemployed, you will always be replacing them and having to tweak them.
 Best of British mateOh by the way dI hope you are not using
 ESRP...you'll have lots of fun with that watching the kit go up and
 down
 and take other vendors/peoples kit out!
 
 Karl
 - Original Message -
 From: 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:29 AM
 Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
 [7:12931]
 
 
  How do you figure Extreme is in trouble? Monday's WSJ had an article
 about
  the tech stocks slump and Extreme, Foundry, as well as a few others were
  noted as part of the 15% that was generally considered to have turned
 the
  corner and shown improvement.
 
  Just curious, I hadn't heard anything about them being in trouble, on
 top
  of that we just bought a boatload of their switches (which do seem so
 far
  to work very well by the way)...
 
  I need my car washed! :) Do you need any fries (chips) with that?
 
 
 
 
 
  hal9001
 
  cc:
  Sent by: Subject: Re: CCIE market
 FLOOD
  !!  was: Current Wait time on the
  nobody@groupslab
  [7:12867]
 
  tudy.com
 
 
 
  07/18/2001
  04:06
  PM
 
  Please
  respond
  to
 
  hal9001
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Fine but the obvious one is Nortel, but look how many they have fired,
  Ericsson the same and I've had experience of their Tigress and
 Congo/Danube
  etc range.  Bad support for a poor product.  Extreme are in trouble,
  Juniper
  and Foundry very small.  3Com basically out of it and I think must have
  seen
  it coming.  I am of the opinion you really have to get a wide spread of
  experience and certifications.
 
 
 
  Anyone need the car washing?
 
  Karl
  - Original Message -
  From:
  To:
  Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:33 PM
  Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
  [7:12861]
 
 
   Its my believe that by being a CISCO person, it does not
   UN-qualify any one of us to work with other vendor
   equipment.  What we now need to do is learn the other
   companies products so we have the edge on the situation.
  
   With some minor tweaks we should be able to support
   other equipment.
  
   This applies to all pc environments.  The basics are the
   same, the rules - different order.
The market conditions are really depressing right now but that does
 not
   mean
that people
give up their dreams and stop working towards them . If you look at
  all
   the
certifications like CNE and MCSE they all had their better days and
  anyone
who had them
was king but not anymore .That is the certification market  for you
 .
  Every
certification has a life and it is upto the Company to give its
certification a longer
life by making it more and more difficult and I guess Cisco has done
 a
commendable job
on that for the past 8 years but I think what cisco needs right now
 is
  more
people using
thier products out their in the market so that they don't get
 crushed
  by
   the
competition
. So with that said , teh CCIE might still be able to get you in a
 lot
  of
positions and
then its upto you . Just my 2 cents
   
Jaspreet
   
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
   
 At 10:31 PM 7/17/01, KY wrote:

 Here is what I came across from   Mentortech's web site on the
   experience
of
 a receiptionist they are looking for:
 Education  Experience:
 At least one year previous experience as a receptionist, with
  multi-line
 phone system.
 
 What kind of phone system needs someone to get to 

Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12935]

2001-07-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wow! That doesn't sound good at all...except I suppose the part about never
being unemployed!

Can you give me some examples of developments they pulled back on/never
delivered? (we can take this off line if you prefer, I'm not sure what
interest there is in this discussion by others).

I do agree the noise level is really pretty bad, but we are just getting
started on this project/upgrade so I haven't run into the other things yet.
We are starting to stage equiptment this week thoughwe used to be a
3com shop and Extreme seemed to have the most/best interconnectivity with
the old 3com gear, among other reasons.

Oh, and yeah, we are planning to use ESRP


   

   
hal9001

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!!  was: Current Wait time on the
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07/19/2001
07:38
AM
   
Please
respond
to
   
hal9001
   

   





They have retracted and pulled back from many areas they were to develop
and
promised developments were not delivered.  I worked for one of their
resellers, what we were promised one minute was not delivered the next.

Support fell like a stone as did staff their end, we could not give away
their kit and there was a flight to quality i.e. Cisco/Nortel.  In addition
their power supplies were suspect and we were forever returning their S24's
and S48's, if it was not for that then it was their ASICS and Ports packing
up.  Once one went others soon followed.

We had software problems with Black Diamond Blades and you had to be very
careful what blades and software you mixed which was never made to clear
until it all went wrong.  Put two of those beasts in a room and it sounded
like a fully loaded B29 on takeoff.  Quality control was not that good.  If
you have got Extreme (unless you are a reseller) you will never be
unemployed, you will always be replacing them and having to tweak them.
Best of British mateOh by the way dI hope you are not using
ESRP...you'll have lots of fun with that watching the kit go up and
down
and take other vendors/peoples kit out!

Karl
- Original Message -
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
[7:12931]


 How do you figure Extreme is in trouble? Monday's WSJ had an article
about
 the tech stocks slump and Extreme, Foundry, as well as a few others were
 noted as part of the 15% that was generally considered to have turned
the
 corner and shown improvement.

 Just curious, I hadn't heard anything about them being in trouble, on top
 of that we just bought a boatload of their switches (which do seem so far
 to work very well by the way)...

 I need my car washed! :) Do you need any fries (chips) with that?





 hal9001

 cc:
 Sent by: Subject: Re: CCIE market
FLOOD
 !!  was: Current Wait time on the
 nobody@groupslab
 [7:12867]

 tudy.com



 07/18/2001
 04:06
 PM

 Please
 respond
 to

 hal9001






 Fine but the obvious one is Nortel, but look how many they have fired,
 Ericsson the same and I've had experience of their Tigress and
Congo/Danube
 etc range.  Bad support for a poor product.  Extreme are in trouble,
 Juniper
 and Foundry very small.  3Com basically out of it and I think must have
 seen
 it coming.  I am of the opinion you really have to get a wide spread of
 experience and certifications.



 Anyone need the car washing?

 Karl
 - Original Message -
 From:
 To:
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:33 PM
 Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
 [7:12861]


  Its my believe that by being a CISCO person, it does not
  UN-qualify any one of us to work with other vendor
  equipment.  What we now need to do is learn the other
  companies products so we have the edge on the situation.
 
  With some minor tweaks we should be able to support
  other equipment.
 
  This applies to all pc environments.  The basics are the
  same, the rules - different order.
   The market conditions are really depressing right now but that does
not
  mean
   that people
   give up their dreams and stop working towards them . If you look at
 

Off Topic - VPN with PKI [7:12936]

2001-07-19 Thread Raoní

Does somebody know what is cisco's cheaper solution for generating
certificates (PKI) ?

I searched in their site and the VPN 5000 concentrator was the only I found,
but it's too expensive.

TIA,

Raonm Castro,
PROLAN - Brazil.




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Re: Passed the CCIE written exam today.... [7:12927]

2001-07-19 Thread Dennis H

What does CCIE (feature) mean?  That you're not really but wish you were?



Ahmed Amimi  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi,
 Today i took the exam at 9:00 morning and ended the exam on the last
 min
 i passed the exam with 71 marks and 70 was the passing WOW!!! too
 close...
 i was expecting more marks but didn't get... so its my advice to all to
 study hard for the exam as it is not so much easy as i thinked off.
 I have learn by hard the CCNP2.0 course (cover to cover) and was
 thinking that i can do the CCIE too for just covering my left over
 topics that is ATM, FR, QoS, SRB, RSRB,DSLW+ etc...
 but this didnt work the exam was tuff

 I have studied from the following books... they are just great..

 all in one lab study guide
 routing TCP/IP (jeff)
 router bridges and swtices (second edition)
 CCIE preparation (todd lamede). good book...

 u can not cover one topic from one book so u have to read all the
 books

 anyways the paper is cleared . either it should be of good marks
 or just pass the one thing i know is that i cleared the paper and is
 heading toword my CCIE lab thatz a loog jurney. as
 the lab is in my opinion is 10 times harder then the written exam...
 (hope for high).

 -Mamoor
 CNE, MCT, CCIE (feature)
 CCIP (feature)




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RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]

2001-07-19 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I hear what you're saying Phil, and agree that these two areas are very
different. My problem was always the forgetting the time when I was diving
in thousands lines of codes, and I would suddently look at the clock and
discover that it was 4 o'clock in the morning.

It doesn't mean however that you can't do both. It's like when I'm playing
my guitar. Sometimes, I grap my Jackson and play Satriani or Nuno, and at
other times, I grap my handmade Spanish guitar and play classical music, but
most often I use my SRV signature stratocaster and play blues.

The fun begins when you're mixing them all together - that's when you start
playing like Blackmore or Yngwie...

After that being said, I realize that keeping up with new technologies in
both areas can be tough and very time dependant, but it can be done.

Another 0010 cents.

Take care,

Ole

~~~
 Ole Drews Jensen
 Systems Network Manager
 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~ 
 http://www.RouterChief.com
~~~
 NEED A JOB ???
 http://www.oledrews.com/job
~~~


-Original Message-
From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:56 AM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]


 Ole,
I think I know where Priscilla is coming from.
I developed software for 10 years (mainly C/C++)
before turning to Network Engineering. The difference
in the roles in my experience has been dramatic.
Software Engineering requires an intensity of
concentration that I can only compare to playing
chess. I was rarely required to interact with
customers and as a result my interpersonal skills
didn't develop.
 I took my first job in Networking for a major
bank. This was very open plan and one day the team
leader called the regular meeting. Everyone shuffled
towards the meeting room EXCEPT me. 45 mins later my
team leader came looking for me. I was still at my
desk, deep in concentration. She couldn't stop
laughing as everyone else was taking bets as to when I
would realise that no-one else was there. I hadn't
noticed a thing. 
 Customer interaction has also been a learning
curve but fortunately I appear to have picked this
skill up quite naturally. 
 I am much happier in my work now and don't intend
to return to Software Development. Both Software
development and Network Engineering are such wide and
diverse fields you cannot possibly keep up with both.
 I havn't written Software for 5 years now and
while the logical skill required to do so will never
leave me the Microsoft Foundation Clases certainly
have.

Regards,

Phil.
--- Ole Drews Jensen  wrote: 
I don't agree with your Priscilla.
 
 Again, I am not a CCIE yet, but I'm on my way. I
 like doing both things (and
 system administration), but then again - maybe I
 have a split personality
 8^O
 
 I agree with you about not finding many with this
 skill, but hopefully I
 will become one soon.
 
 Take care,
 
 Ole
 
 ~~~
  Ole Drews Jensen
  Systems Network Manager
  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~~~ 
  http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP
 ~~~
  NEED A JOB ???
  http://www.oledrews.com/job
 ~~~
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 1:52 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]
 
 
 That's a scary thought: CCIEs who develop protocols.
 ;-]
 
 They are looking for software engineers. They aren't
 going to find many 
 that have a CCIE? It's a different skill set and
 requires a different type 
 of personality.
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 09:41 AM 7/18/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
 Forgive me for sending this here, I know there's a
 place for job
 discussions, but I noticed that there have been
 several e-mails about how
 CCIE's now have a harder time getting jobs.
 
 I received this e-mail (look at the message
 included after my signature) on
 another Cisco list I'm a member of:
 
 Hth,
 
 Ole
 
 ~~~
   Ole Drews Jensen
   Systems Network Manager
   CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
   RWR Enterprises, Inc.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~~~
   http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP
 ~~~
   NEED A JOB ???
   http://www.oledrews.com/job
 ~~~
 
 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:11:26 -
 From: JDO 
 Subject: Looking for a Special Kind of CCIE
 
 Hello,
 
 My name is Johnna Smith and I work for a placement
 firm in Dallas,
 Texas. I am in desperate need of a CCIE that
 DEVELOPS routing
 protocols. I need them to have BGP, DSPF, IS-IS,
 and MPLS. The must
 be a software engineer and they must be degreed.
 
 If any of you could 

RE: Packet Sizes [7:12826]

2001-07-19 Thread Lupi, Guy

Thank you to all who replied to this post.  I do have another question for
you.  When the packet is sent to layer 2 for encapsulation and transmission,
if it is Ethernet, an Ethernet header is placed on and the frame is
transmitted.  As far as I know the only requirement is that the frame must
end on a 32 bit boundary, must be at least 64 bytes, and is not padded
further.  So that if the packet is 700 bytes, and is encapsulated in an
Ethernet frame, the total would be approximately 726 bytes.  Is this
correct?

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Packet Sizes [7:12826]


FTP generally uses a full-size packet: 1500 bytes on Ethernet, not counting 
the header, CRC, preamble, inter-frame gap, or any VLAN or MPLS tagging.

HTTP does not use a full-size packet usually. You would think it would, but 
it tends to use a 500-600 byte packet size. Using a shorter packet size 
improves perceived performance because the screen can show partial data 
while more data is en route.

ICMP depends on what you are doing and what parameters you use. Most error 
or warning messages would be very short, probably 64 bytes or so. If it's 
ICMP echo (ping), then the user can specify the number of bytes.

TFTP sends data in 512 byte blocks. Add the 8-byte UDP and 20-byte IP
header.

For all of these examples, there may be additional shorter packets for ACKs 
and other overhead.

Priscilla

At 11:41 AM 7/18/01, Lupi, Guy wrote:
Does anyone have a list of average packet sizes for different services?
Things like FTP, HTTP, ICMP, TFTP and the like.  Just something general is
fine, I am aware that there is no hard and fast rule.


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]

2001-07-19 Thread Ciaron Gogarty

I think u should read the article more closely

;-)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


This is what I received from a colleague.

Is this true?
http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html




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Re: Passed the CCIE written exam today.... [7:12927]

2001-07-19 Thread hal9001

Future? Hopeful etc.

Karl Billionaire (Future)
- Original Message -
From: Dennis H 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Passed the CCIE written exam today [7:12927]


 What does CCIE (feature) mean?  That you're not really but wish you
were?



 Ahmed Amimi  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Hi,
  Today i took the exam at 9:00 morning and ended the exam on the last
  min
  i passed the exam with 71 marks and 70 was the passing WOW!!! too
  close...
  i was expecting more marks but didn't get... so its my advice to all to
  study hard for the exam as it is not so much easy as i thinked off.
  I have learn by hard the CCNP2.0 course (cover to cover) and was
  thinking that i can do the CCIE too for just covering my left over
  topics that is ATM, FR, QoS, SRB, RSRB,DSLW+ etc...
  but this didnt work the exam was tuff
 
  I have studied from the following books... they are just great..
 
  all in one lab study guide
  routing TCP/IP (jeff)
  router bridges and swtices (second edition)
  CCIE preparation (todd lamede). good book...
 
  u can not cover one topic from one book so u have to read all the
  books
 
  anyways the paper is cleared . either it should be of good marks
  or just pass the one thing i know is that i cleared the paper and is
  heading toword my CCIE lab thatz a loog jurney. as
  the lab is in my opinion is 10 times harder then the written exam...
  (hope for high).
 
  -Mamoor
  CNE, MCT, CCIE (feature)
  CCIP (feature)




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RE: Packet Sizes [7:12826]

2001-07-19 Thread Phil Barker

Guy,
  it would yield 726 only if you were using an
Ethernet SNAP frame.

For Ethernet 802.3 (6 byte destination + 6 byte source
(mac addresses) + 2 byte length field + 1 byte SSAP +
1 byte DSAP + 1 byte control + 700 payload + 4 byte
CRC) = 721.

For Ethernet Raw (6 byte destination + 6 byte source
(mac addresses) + 2 ethertype + 700 payload + 4 byte
CRC) = 718.

For Ethernet SNAP (6 byte destination + 6 byte source
(mac addresses) + 2 byte length field + 1 byte SSAP +
1 byte DSAP (both = 0xAA) + 1 byte control + 5 byte
OUI + 700 payload + 4 byte CRC) = 726.

Regards,

Phil.

PS: I think there is a pocket handbook by Miller that
explains this in more detail.


 --- Lupi, Guy  wrote: 
Thank you to all who replied to this post.  I do
 have another question for
 you.  When the packet is sent to layer 2 for
 encapsulation and transmission,
 if it is Ethernet, an Ethernet header is placed on
 and the frame is
 transmitted.  As far as I know the only requirement
 is that the frame must
 end on a 32 bit boundary, must be at least 64 bytes,
 and is not padded
 further.  So that if the packet is 700 bytes, and is
 encapsulated in an
 Ethernet frame, the total would be approximately 726
 bytes.  Is this
 correct?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:52 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Packet Sizes [7:12826]
 
 
 FTP generally uses a full-size packet: 1500 bytes on
 Ethernet, not counting 
 the header, CRC, preamble, inter-frame gap, or any
 VLAN or MPLS tagging.
 
 HTTP does not use a full-size packet usually. You
 would think it would, but 
 it tends to use a 500-600 byte packet size. Using a
 shorter packet size 
 improves perceived performance because the screen
 can show partial data 
 while more data is en route.
 
 ICMP depends on what you are doing and what
 parameters you use. Most error 
 or warning messages would be very short, probably 64
 bytes or so. If it's 
 ICMP echo (ping), then the user can specify the
 number of bytes.
 
 TFTP sends data in 512 byte blocks. Add the 8-byte
 UDP and 20-byte IP
 header.
 
 For all of these examples, there may be additional
 shorter packets for ACKs 
 and other overhead.
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 11:41 AM 7/18/01, Lupi, Guy wrote:
 Does anyone have a list of average packet sizes for
 different services?
 Things like FTP, HTTP, ICMP, TFTP and the like. 
 Just something general is
 fine, I am aware that there is no hard and fast
 rule.
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com
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RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12943]

2001-07-19 Thread Andrew Larkins

thanks

I read this after an all night work session - half asleep


-Original Message-
From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


I think u should read the article more closely

;-)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


This is what I received from a colleague.

Is this true?
http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html




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Re: Word of Caution - RE: Shipping Home Lab Equipment [7:12913]

2001-07-19 Thread Brad Ellis

Leigh,

How can you blame that on UPS?  That is DEFINITELY not UPS's fault!  The
company that sold you the switch should know UPS's policy.  You need to have
a conversation with the company that SHIPPED you the Cat switch.  The
company that sold you the switch should have shipped it fully insured with
SIGNATURE required (that's how we ship our hardware that we sell).  Sure it
costs $2 more to ship, but it defnitely makes the transaction MUCH more
secure.

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco Gear: www.optsys.net

Leigh Anne Chisholm  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Just a word of caution for everyone out there that's buying equipment for
 their home labs.

 Yesterday I had a Catalyst 5002 delivered to my home by UPS.  It was
 packaged in a Dell computer box and left at my door.  The driver didn't
wait
 for a signture or even to see if anyone was home.  The box was left plain
 view from the street.

 Apparently, that's UPS's policy.  Unless the shipper indicates adult
 signature required, UPS can just drop your package at the front door and
 leave.  There's the fact that since it was in plain view of the street and
 since it was in a box that would be very enticing to anyone passing by,
that
 was my first concern... but the other fact is that it had just finished
 raining - and it was very likely we could get another storm shortly (since
 it's supposed to rain all week).  Just what I need -- a soggy investment!

 If you're going to be buying equipment, I really don't recommend shipping
 via UPS.  When I called UPS to complain, I was told that UPS gets more
 complaints that packages aren't left because they require signature than
 complaints over packages being left without getting a signature so they're
 not likely to change their policy any time soon (however why would they
get
 complaints about packages not being left if their policy is that they can
 leave packages without signature?)

 Guh.

   -- Leigh Anne




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ios features [7:12945]

2001-07-19 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Does anyone remember the link that allows you to search for a IOS version
based on a feature, say DHCP.


Don




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RE: ios features [7:12945]

2001-07-19 Thread Maccubbin, Duncan

-Original Message-
From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ios features [7:12945]


Does anyone remember the link that allows you to search for a IOS version
based on a feature, say DHCP.


Don




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RE: ios features [7:12945]

2001-07-19 Thread Eric Hoffman

www.cisco.com/go/fn

feature navigator rules!

you need cco login to gain access.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ios features [7:12945]


Does anyone remember the link that allows you to search for a IOS version
based on a feature, say DHCP.


Don




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Re: ios features [7:12945]

2001-07-19 Thread John Neiberger

This is the CCO IOS Feature Navigator.  Is that what you were looking
for?  It requires a login.

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/FeatureNav/FN.pl

John

 Donald B Johnson jr  7/19/01 8:44:07 AM

Does anyone remember the link that allows you to search for a IOS
version
based on a feature, say DHCP.


Don




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Re: ios features [7:12945]

2001-07-19 Thread Alex Lee

I think the link is :

www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/FeatureNav/FN.pl


Donald B Johnson jr wrote in message
...
Does anyone remember the link that allows you to search for a IOS version
based on a feature, say DHCP.


Don




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Re: ios features [7:12945]

2001-07-19 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

het thanks alot login is not a problem
Thank You,





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From: Eric Hoffman 
To: 'Donald B Johnson jr' 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:38 AM
Subject: RE: ios features [7:12945]


 www.cisco.com/go/fn
 
 feature navigator rules!
 
 you need cco login to gain access.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ios features [7:12945]
 
 
 Does anyone remember the link that allows you to search for a IOS version
 based on a feature, say DHCP.
 
 
 Don




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Re: ios features [7:12945]

2001-07-19 Thread Raul F. Fernandez-IGLOU

You will need a username and paswword to access it.

Raul
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: ios features [7:12945]


 Does anyone remember the link that allows you to search for a IOS version
 based on a feature, say DHCP.


 Don




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RE: ios features [7:12945]

2001-07-19 Thread Stull, Cory

www.cisco.com/go/fn   you have to have a cco login.

Cory

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Subject: ios features [7:12945]


Does anyone remember the link that allows you to search for a IOS version
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Don




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RE: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12953]

2001-07-19 Thread Buri, Heather H

Robert,

Ditto here on the Cabletrons!  We have an 8600 that has caused our network
to go to hell-in-a-handbasket on more than one occasion.
Cabletron/Enterasys Engineers never seem to have a good explanation for the
problems either.  I am waiting for the day when we can pull that thing out
and replace it with a 6509.

Heather Buri   
CSC Technology Services - Houston

Phone:  (713)-961-8592
Fax:(713)-961-8249
Mobile: 
Alpha Page: 

Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
  Suite 500
  Houston, TX 77056



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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 6:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
[7:12934]


I have had the same problems with Cabletron/Enterasys SSR equipment. 

Its seems that some companies put money into QA and some rely on old
customers to do it for them

Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: hal9001 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 19 July 2001 12:39
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: CCIE market FLOOD !!  was: Current Wait time on the lab
 [7:12933]
 
 They have retracted and pulled back from many areas they were to develop
 and
 promised developments were not delivered.  I worked for one of their
 resellers, what we were promised one minute was not delivered the next.
 
 Support fell like a stone as did staff their end, we could not give away
 their kit and there was a flight to quality i.e. Cisco/Nortel.  In
 addition
 their power supplies were suspect and we were forever returning their
 S24's
 and S48's, if it was not for that then it was their ASICS and Ports
 packing
 up.  Once one went others soon followed.
 
 We had software problems with Black Diamond Blades and you had to be very
 careful what blades and software you mixed which was never made to clear
 until it all went wrong.  Put two of those beasts in a room and it sounded
 like a fully loaded B29 on takeoff.  Quality control was not that good.
 If
 you have got Extreme (unless you are a reseller) you will never be
 unemployed, you will always be replacing them and having to tweak them.
 Best of British mateOh by the way dI hope you are not using
 ESRP...you'll have lots of fun with that watching the kit go up and
 down
 and take other vendors/peoples kit out!
 
 Karl
 - Original Message -
 From: 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:29 AM
 Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
 [7:12931]
 
 
  How do you figure Extreme is in trouble? Monday's WSJ had an article
 about
  the tech stocks slump and Extreme, Foundry, as well as a few others were
  noted as part of the 15% that was generally considered to have turned
 the
  corner and shown improvement.
 
  Just curious, I hadn't heard anything about them being in trouble, on
 top
  of that we just bought a boatload of their switches (which do seem so
 far
  to work very well by the way)...
 
  I need my car washed! :) Do you need any fries (chips) with that?
 
 
 
 
 
  hal9001
 
  cc:
  Sent by: Subject: Re: CCIE market
 FLOOD
  !!  was: Current Wait time on the
  nobody@groupslab
  [7:12867]
 
  tudy.com
 
 
 
  07/18/2001
  04:06
  PM
 
  Please
  respond
  to
 
  hal9001
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Fine but the obvious one is Nortel, but look how many they have fired,
  Ericsson the same and I've had experience of their Tigress and
 Congo/Danube
  etc range.  Bad support for a poor product.  Extreme are in trouble,
  Juniper
  and Foundry very small.  3Com basically out of it and I think must have
  seen
  it coming.  I am of the opinion you really have to get a wide spread of
  experience and certifications.
 
 
 
  Anyone need the car washing?
 
  Karl
  - Original Message -
  From:
  To:
  Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:33 PM
  Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
  [7:12861]
 
 
   Its my believe that by being a CISCO person, it does not
   UN-qualify any one of us to work with other vendor
   equipment.  What we now need to do is learn the other
   companies products so we have the edge on the situation.
  
   With some minor tweaks we should be able to support
   other equipment.
  
   This applies to all pc environments.  The basics are the
   same, the rules - different order.
The market conditions are really depressing right now but that does
 not
   mean
that people
give up their dreams and stop working towards them . If you look at
  all
   the
certifications like CNE and MCSE they all had their better days and
  anyone
who had them
was king but not anymore .That is the certification market  for you
 .
  Every
certification has a life and it is upto the Company to give its
certification a longer
life by making it more and more difficult and I guess Cisco has done
 a

Re: ios features [7:12945]

2001-07-19 Thread Jonathan Hays

Arre you thinking of the Feature Navigator?

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/FeatureNav/FN.pl

BTW, you must have a CCO login to use it.
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Donald B Johnson jr wrote:

 Does anyone remember the link that allows you to search for a IOS version
 based on a feature, say DHCP.

 Don




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RE: ios features [7:12945]

2001-07-19 Thread Chuck Larrieu

www.cisco.com/tac

log in ( must have a CCO login to access this tool )

go to the tool index

under the f's go to the feature navigator

this is a great tool. allows one to search for a feature on a specific
platform. it is not 100% reliable, bit as they say, getting there is half
the fun.

Chuck

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Donald B Johnson jr
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ios features [7:12945]


Does anyone remember the link that allows you to search for a IOS version
based on a feature, say DHCP.


Don




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Re: Passed the CCIE written exam today.... [7:12927]

2001-07-19 Thread EA Louie

congratulations!  Best of luck studying for the Lab exam

-e-

- Original Message -
From: Ahmed Amimi 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:06 AM
Subject: Passed the CCIE written exam today [7:12927]


 Hi,
 Today i took the exam at 9:00 morning and ended the exam on the last
 min
 i passed the exam with 71 marks and 70 was the passing WOW!!! too
 close...
 i was expecting more marks but didn't get... so its my advice to all to
 study hard for the exam as it is not so much easy as i thinked off.
 I have learn by hard the CCNP2.0 course (cover to cover) and was
 thinking that i can do the CCIE too for just covering my left over
 topics that is ATM, FR, QoS, SRB, RSRB,DSLW+ etc...
 but this didnt work the exam was tuff

 I have studied from the following books... they are just great..

 all in one lab study guide
 routing TCP/IP (jeff)
 router bridges and swtices (second edition)
 CCIE preparation (todd lamede). good book...

 u can not cover one topic from one book so u have to read all the
 books

 anyways the paper is cleared . either it should be of good marks
 or just pass the one thing i know is that i cleared the paper and is
 heading toword my CCIE lab thatz a loog jurney. as
 the lab is in my opinion is 10 times harder then the written exam...
 (hope for high).

 -Mamoor
 CNE, MCT, CCIE (feature)
 CCIP (feature)
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Re: ipsec and nat [7:12825]

2001-07-19 Thread Allen May

Just a small addition to that...  IPSec has rules for only allowing certain
source  destination IP addresses through.  NAT changes IPs  doesn't even
have the same IP/port for each transmission so IPSec would thoroughly be
confused ;)

- Original Message -
From: Ross McCormick 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: ipsec and nat [7:12825]


 Two scenarios:

 1)   End point --- NAT --- IPSec --- IPSec --- Endpoint
 2)   End point --- IPSec --- NAT --- IPSec --- Endpoint

 Ignoring fancy tricks, scenario 1 will work whereas 2 will fail.

 IPSec encapsalates the IP address within the encrypted packet, so if there
 is a NAT device in the IPSec path the IPSec tunnel will fail.

 Cisco have a number of documents regarding the options of dealing with
 NAT/IPSec combinations at TAC, so I recommend starting there.

 Ross


 Fly Ers wrote:
 
  Dennis,
  I am not referring to vpn client, but having a lan-lan vpn
  setup where
  networks on both sides of the endpoints are configured with
  overlapping
  address space.  one side of the tunnel is a hiding (nat on a
  non-cisco
  device) behind one address.  there is a vpn3000 on the other
  end that can
  not perform the translation and route it over the IPsec tunnel.
  thanks.
 
 
  From: Dennis H
  Reply-To: Dennis H
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: ipsec and nat [7:12825]
  Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:23:48 -0400
  
  I believe you mean ipsec over nat, as opposed to nat over
  ipsec... the vpn
  concentrators can do it using udp port forwarding but this
  only work if
  you're using Cisco's vpn client.
  
  
  Fly Ers  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Anyone confirm whether pix, concentrator or ipsec router
  has the ability
  to
nat over ipsec?  i know that I can nat everything on a
  router behind one
  of
these devices.
   
Thanks.
   
   
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Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread JR Van Noy

I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
names.  

Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
information?

thanks for your help,

JR




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RE: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread Ciaron Gogarty

async-bootp subnet-mask 255.255.255.0
async-bootp gateway 
async-bootp dns-server 
async-bootp nbns-server 


-Original Message-
From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 16:58
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]


I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
names.  

Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
information?

thanks for your help,

JR




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RE: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread Farhan Ahmed

sorry but i couldnt understand 
do u want from the notebook to ping hosts
if this is the case
ther is a command
router(config)#async-bootp dns-server
to pass the dns server to dial up clients

Best Regards

Have A Good Day!!

Farhan Ahmed
   MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE
Network Engineer
Mideast Data Systems Abudhabi Uae.



-Original Message-
From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]


I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
names.  

Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
information?

thanks for your help,

JR

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Re: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread JR Van Noy

Sorry for not making it that clear.

Once I connect I can ping by machine name but only if it is fully
qualified.  I thought that the domain-list command would enter the DNS
suffix into the adapter,but it's not.  We are taking care of this now by
just manually entering the DNS suffix in the connection properties.

I tried the async commands but nothing has changed.

JR

Farhan Ahmed wrote:
 
 sorry but i couldnt understand
 do u want from the notebook to ping hosts
 if this is the case
 ther is a command
 router(config)#async-bootp dns-server
 to pass the dns server to dial up clients
 
 Best Regards
 
 Have A Good Day!!
 
 Farhan Ahmed
MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE
 Network Engineer
 Mideast Data Systems Abudhabi Uae.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
 must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
 names.
 
 Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
 the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
 async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
 information?
 
 thanks for your help,
 
 JR
 
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Large Collisions on Vlan1 [7:12961]

2001-07-19 Thread Kwame

What does it mean when the sh int vlan1 output shows large collisions? For
example on a 2924 XL with an ISL trunk to a 6509 I go the ff output upon
issuing the SH INT VLAN1 command:

0 output errors, 19108404 collisions, 0 interface resets




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Re: ios features [7:12945]

2001-07-19 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Thanks to all.
I'm in

Don


- Original Message -
From: Stull, Cory 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 8:09 AM
Subject: RE: ios features [7:12945]


 www.cisco.com/go/fn   you have to have a cco login.

 Cory

 -Original Message-
 From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ios features [7:12945]


 Does anyone remember the link that allows you to search for a IOS version
 based on a feature, say DHCP.


 Don




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RE: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread Esfeld, Tony

I had this same problem with an AS5300 and was unable to find any method of
resolution besides manually entering the DNS suffix into the client.

Tony Esfeld
MCSE, MCP Win2k, CCNA, Intel CIS


-Original Message-
From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Remote Access [7:12958]


Sorry for not making it that clear.

Once I connect I can ping by machine name but only if it is fully
qualified.  I thought that the domain-list command would enter the DNS
suffix into the adapter,but it's not.  We are taking care of this now by
just manually entering the DNS suffix in the connection properties.

I tried the async commands but nothing has changed.

JR




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IFSpeed [7:12964]

2001-07-19 Thread Picciani Francesco Saverio

In NNM I have some links with bandwidth uilization 100%. I know this is a
problem with the MIB variable ifspeed but I don't know the details.
Can someone help me to resolve this problem.

Thanks




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RE: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread Farhan Ahmed

which dns server are u using

-Original Message-
From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 8:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Remote Access [7:12958]


Sorry for not making it that clear.

Once I connect I can ping by machine name but only if it is fully
qualified.  I thought that the domain-list command would enter the DNS
suffix into the adapter,but it's not.  We are taking care of this now by
just manually entering the DNS suffix in the connection properties.

I tried the async commands but nothing has changed.

JR

Farhan Ahmed wrote:
 
 sorry but i couldnt understand
 do u want from the notebook to ping hosts
 if this is the case
 ther is a command
 router(config)#async-bootp dns-server
 to pass the dns server to dial up clients
 
 Best Regards
 
 Have A Good Day!!
 
 Farhan Ahmed
MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE
 Network Engineer
 Mideast Data Systems Abudhabi Uae.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
 must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
 names.
 
 Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
 the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
 async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
 information?
 
 thanks for your help,
 
 JR
 
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RE: Large Collisions on Vlan1 [7:12961]

2001-07-19 Thread Dennis Griffin

Massive collisions implies half duplex transmission on interfaces expecting
full duplex access.  I'll have to check this out, but I think you might have
duplex setting programmed as negotiate on both sides of trunk.  Seems to me
that some platforms will default back to half-duplex and thus the trunk is
not really working.  Will revisit this site later, so don't necessarily
trust this first impression...

Cheers...

Dennis



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RE: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread Hire, Ejay

It is possible to do this, depending on how your clients are getting the Ip
addresses.  From your statements I assume the access sever is handing them
out via PPP, but where is the router getting the IP's?  From a local pool
(most likely), a radius server, a local DHCP server, or ?

Additionally, can you post or e-mail me a copy of your config.

-Original Message-
From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]


I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
names.  

Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
information?

thanks for your help,

JR




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Re: Question About Ciscowork [7:12621]

2001-07-19 Thread Sasa Milic

Syam,

would you please describe what you mean by I cannot set.
BTW, I don't remember that there is snmp string for ANI
server; there are snmp strings for devices that ANI server
uses, I guess that's what you've meant.

So, you've started web browser and connected to ciscoworks
server, logged into it, select Cisco Works/Setup/ANI Server.
Then you click on SNMP ..., and in right part of the window
you get editor window with current configuration. Right ?

Now, enter for each device:

 x.y.z.w:public_string::private_string

That should work.

Click on Apply. On question Run discovery now click on No.
Go into ANI Server / Discovery menu. Enter seed device(s) on
the right. Click OK.

Go into Campus Manager / Topology Window. Click on Discovery.
That should work.

Anyway, if editing snmp strings through java applet doesn't work,
that's serious problem. File with strings is located at
/etc/cwsi/anisnmp.conf, you should be able to
edit it by hand.

Sasa



norsyam ariffin wrote:
 
 I cannot set snmp string for ANI server.




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RE: Large Collisions on Vlan1 [7:12961]

2001-07-19 Thread Hire, Ejay

You need to clear the counters and establish a time frame for this.  19
million collisions isn't a lot in a well loaded switch that has been up for
a long time.  

If you clear the counters and the number increases quickly, you may have a
speed or duplex issue or a bad cable.  You said this was an ISL trunk so you
should manually set both ends at 100 mbps
(or 1000mbps if you've got the special card for the 2924 and a good port on
the 6500) and also manually set the link to full duplex.

 
-Original Message-
From: Kwame [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 12:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Large Collisions on Vlan1 [7:12961]


What does it mean when the sh int vlan1 output shows large collisions? For
example on a 2924 XL with an ISL trunk to a 6509 I go the ff output upon
issuing the SH INT VLAN1 command:

0 output errors, 19108404 collisions, 0 interface resets




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Re: IFSpeed [7:12964]

2001-07-19 Thread John Neiberger

The OVForum mailing list might be a better place to ask a question like
this. 

The quick answer is that NNM sometimes gets its interface speed
information from the 'bandwidth' statement.  So, if you set the
bandwidth artificially low, then the actual link utilization may exceed
100%. 

As a test (not on a production network unless you know what effect this
will have) you could change the bandwidth statement on a interface and
then re-run your data collection and see if it changes.

If you post this to the ovforum list you'll probably get a better
answer from someone with more experience with NNM.  If you're not
familiar with that list, go to www.ovforum.org to sign up.

HTH,
John

 Picciani Francesco Saverio 
7/19/01 10:49:16 AM 
In NNM I have some links with bandwidth uilization 100%. I know this
is a
problem with the MIB variable ifspeed but I don't know the details.
Can someone help me to resolve this problem.

Thanks




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RE: ios features [7:12945]

2001-07-19 Thread Hire, Ejay

It's called the Feature navigator.
http://www.cisco.com/go/fn/



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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ios features [7:12945]


Does anyone remember the link that allows you to search for a IOS version
based on a feature, say DHCP.


Don




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RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12975]

2001-07-19 Thread Ciaron Gogarty

I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's actually
taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the
format...

Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out
there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for
seperating the weed from the chaff??  In the end, the market will get
swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world experience
and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE went..

thats my two cents



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Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE
[7:12943]


thanks

I read this after an all night work session - half asleep


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Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


I think u should read the article more closely

;-)

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Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


This is what I received from a colleague.

Is this true?
http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html




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Re: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread JR Van Noy

The clients are getting assigned from a local pool using ppp...They are
authenticated against a securid server using tacacs+.  Once they are
authenticated we have them type ppp default at the router prompt to
finish the connection.  Below is the config with my ip info omitted.

Thanks for everyone's help,

JR

ip domain-list *
ip domain-list *
ip domain-name *
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip address-pool local

ip local pool local 'range'

interface Group-Async1
 ip unnumbered Loopback0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 ip tcp header-compression passive
 dialer in-band
 dialer idle-timeout 900
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60
 dialer-group 1
 async dynamic address
 async dynamic routing
 async mode interactive
 no snmp trap link-status
 peer default ip address pool local
 no fair-queue
 group-range 1 24

line 2 24
 exec-timeout 30 0
 logout-warning 120
 script dialer cisco-default
 accounting connection test
 login authentication async-tacacs+
 modem Dialin
 modem autoconfigure discovery
 terminal-type vt100


Hire, Ejay wrote:
 
 It is possible to do this, depending on how your clients are getting the Ip
 addresses.  From your statements I assume the access sever is handing them
 out via PPP, but where is the router getting the IP's?  From a local pool
 (most likely), a radius server, a local DHCP server, or ?
 
 Additionally, can you post or e-mail me a copy of your config.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
 must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
 names.
 
 Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
 the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
 async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
 information?
 
 thanks for your help,
 
 JR




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WinAmp Skins [7:12977]

2001-07-19 Thread Kelly D Griffin

I have 2 through 12 listed on a page at http://griffin.tzo.com.  This is a
cable modem connection, so please be patient.

Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
Network Engineer
Kg2 Network Design
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Latency on ATM interface - Any ideas [7:12978]

2001-07-19 Thread Eric Mwambaji

I experience intermittent increased latency on
extended pings from a 3662 to another 3662 router
accross my lab WAN. The ping starts off with replies
at 32 ms but once in a while the reply goes over
600ms. ie the replies are not constant. Removing
the vbr-nrt from my config results in faster replies
between 1 and 2 ms but again every 13th or so reply is
10ms. Does any one know what maybe causing this??? My
config is as follows


Router A:

interface ATM3/0
 no ip address
 atm ilmi-keepalive
 pvc 0/16 ilmi
 !
!
interface ATM3/0.1 point-to-point
 ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.252
 pvc 2/100
  protocol ip 192.168.1.1 broadcast
  vbr-nrt 512 128 100
  encapsulation aal5snap
 !
!
interface ATM3/0.2 point-to-point
 pvc voice 2/101
  cbr 500
  encapsulation aal5mux voice
 !

Router B

interface ATM3/0
 no ip address
 atm ilmi-keepalive
 pvc 0/16 ilmi
 !
!
interface ATM3/0.1 point-to-point
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252
 pvc ip 0/50
  protocol ip 192.168.1.2 broadcast
  vbr-nrt 512 128 100
  encapsulation aal5snap
 !
!
interface ATM3/0.2 point-to-point
 pvc voice 0/51
  cbr 500
  encapsulation aal5mux voice
 !
!

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RE: Large Collisions on Vlan1 [7:12961]

2001-07-19 Thread Dennis Griffin

Massive collisions implies half duplex transmission on interfaces expecting
full duplex access.  I'll have to check this out, but I think you might have
duplex setting programmed as negotiate on both sides of trunk.  Seems to me
that some platforms will default back to half-duplex and thus the trunk is
not really working.  Will revisit this site later, so don't necessarily
trust this first impression...

Cheers...

Dennis



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RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12980]

2001-07-19 Thread Peter Van Oene

Are you missing the point that the lab with still be very tough?  The only
issue is meeting the customer demand for rack time for testing.  Cisco
cannot do this in a two day format and much of the two day stuff was
overhead.  I personally think one day will be tougher.

Pete


*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 7/19/2001 at 1:25 PM Ciaron Gogarty wrote:

I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's
actually
taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the
format...

Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out
there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for
seperating the weed from the chaff??  In the end, the market will get
swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world
experience
and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE went..

thats my two cents



-Original Message-
From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE
[7:12943]


thanks

I read this after an all night work session - half asleep


-Original Message-
From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


I think u should read the article more closely

;-)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


This is what I received from a colleague.

Is this true?
http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html




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RE: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread Farhan Ahmed

yes u just need a 
async-bootp dns-server
command folowed by yr dns srv ip
and u are done
and remove the dns suffix from client as welll

Best Regards

Have A Good Day!!

Farhan Ahmed
   MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE
Network Engineer
Mideast Data Systems Abudhabi Uae.


-Original Message-
From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Remote Access [7:12958]


The clients are getting assigned from a local pool using ppp...They are
authenticated against a securid server using tacacs+.  Once they are
authenticated we have them type ppp default at the router prompt to
finish the connection.  Below is the config with my ip info omitted.

Thanks for everyone's help,

JR

ip domain-list *
ip domain-list *
ip domain-name *
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip address-pool local

ip local pool local 'range'

interface Group-Async1
 ip unnumbered Loopback0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 ip tcp header-compression passive
 dialer in-band
 dialer idle-timeout 900
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60
 dialer-group 1
 async dynamic address
 async dynamic routing
 async mode interactive
 no snmp trap link-status
 peer default ip address pool local
 no fair-queue
 group-range 1 24

line 2 24
 exec-timeout 30 0
 logout-warning 120
 script dialer cisco-default
 accounting connection test
 login authentication async-tacacs+
 modem Dialin
 modem autoconfigure discovery
 terminal-type vt100


Hire, Ejay wrote:
 
 It is possible to do this, depending on how your clients are getting the
Ip
 addresses.  From your statements I assume the access sever is handing them
 out via PPP, but where is the router getting the IP's?  From a local pool
 (most likely), a radius server, a local DHCP server, or ?
 
 Additionally, can you post or e-mail me a copy of your config.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
 must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
 names.
 
 Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
 the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
 async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
 information?
 
 thanks for your help,
 
 JR

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RE: Latency on ATM interface - Any ideas [7:12978]

2001-07-19 Thread Farhan Ahmed

can u send sh int output
uncleared and after clearing counters...

-Original Message-
From: Eric Mwambaji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Latency on ATM interface - Any ideas [7:12978]


I experience intermittent increased latency on
extended pings from a 3662 to another 3662 router
accross my lab WAN. The ping starts off with replies
at 32 ms but once in a while the reply goes over
600ms. ie the replies are not constant. Removing
the vbr-nrt from my config results in faster replies
between 1 and 2 ms but again every 13th or so reply is
10ms. Does any one know what maybe causing this??? My
config is as follows


Router A:

interface ATM3/0
 no ip address
 atm ilmi-keepalive
 pvc 0/16 ilmi
 !
!
interface ATM3/0.1 point-to-point
 ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.252
 pvc 2/100
  protocol ip 192.168.1.1 broadcast
  vbr-nrt 512 128 100
  encapsulation aal5snap
 !
!
interface ATM3/0.2 point-to-point
 pvc voice 2/101
  cbr 500
  encapsulation aal5mux voice
 !

Router B

interface ATM3/0
 no ip address
 atm ilmi-keepalive
 pvc 0/16 ilmi
 !
!
interface ATM3/0.1 point-to-point
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252
 pvc ip 0/50
  protocol ip 192.168.1.2 broadcast
  vbr-nrt 512 128 100
  encapsulation aal5snap
 !
!
interface ATM3/0.2 point-to-point
 pvc voice 0/51
  cbr 500
  encapsulation aal5mux voice
 !
!

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CISS Certification [7:12983]

2001-07-19 Thread Araujo, Ernani Augusto De Lima (Ernani)

Please,

Does anyone know about the new Cisco Qualified Specialist CISS
certification? Has anyone taken it?
I'm planning to go for it and would like to get some references to start
studying. At the Cisco's web page, it has some information, but I'm having
difficulties to register for the Web-based training on both Cisco's training
partners. Both are located in Asia and I tried to contact them by phone, but
one didn't speak English and the other I couldn't get through.
To accomplish this I need to take CISA, CISAE and CISSS Web-based training
and submit myself to the certifications exams (Architecture Essentials,
Application Essentials and finally Solutions). Does anyone know if the exams
are focused on the general concepts or if it is focused on specific Cisco's
products?

Thanks,

Ernani Araujo
CCIE#5603




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RE: Packet Sizes [7:12826]

2001-07-19 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 09:20 AM 7/19/01, Lupi, Guy wrote:
Thank you to all who replied to this post.  I do have another question for
you.  When the packet is sent to layer 2 for encapsulation and transmission,
if it is Ethernet, an Ethernet header is placed on and the frame is
transmitted.  As far as I know the only requirement is that the frame must
end on a 32 bit boundary

I don't believe there is any such requirement. TCP and IP headers must end 
on a 32-bit boundary, but the data doesn't have to.

, must be at least 64 bytes, and is not padded

The Ethernet driver may do the padding if the upper layer does not.

further.  So that if the packet is 700 bytes, and is encapsulated in an
Ethernet frame, the total would be approximately 726 bytes.

That sounds right for most cases. To the 700, you would add:

8 bytes of preamble (This is usually not counted as part of the frame. The 
preamble is used for clock synchronization.)

14 bytes Ethernet header: dest, src, type or length

4 bytes CRC

Maybe an 3 or 4-byte LLC header
Maybe a 5-byte SNAP header

  Is this
correct?

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Packet Sizes [7:12826]


FTP generally uses a full-size packet: 1500 bytes on Ethernet, not counting
the header, CRC, preamble, inter-frame gap, or any VLAN or MPLS tagging.

HTTP does not use a full-size packet usually. You would think it would, but
it tends to use a 500-600 byte packet size. Using a shorter packet size
improves perceived performance because the screen can show partial data
while more data is en route.

ICMP depends on what you are doing and what parameters you use. Most error
or warning messages would be very short, probably 64 bytes or so. If it's
ICMP echo (ping), then the user can specify the number of bytes.

TFTP sends data in 512 byte blocks. Add the 8-byte UDP and 20-byte IP
header.

For all of these examples, there may be additional shorter packets for ACKs
and other overhead.

Priscilla

At 11:41 AM 7/18/01, Lupi, Guy wrote:
 Does anyone have a list of average packet sizes for different services?
 Things like FTP, HTTP, ICMP, TFTP and the like.  Just something general is
 fine, I am aware that there is no hard and fast rule.


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com


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RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12988]

2001-07-19 Thread Greg Macaulay

Perhaps -- you may be correct -- however, it is also possible that there are
other justifiable reasons for the change and that the restructuring will be
as arduous and thorough as the original lab.

My read on what they are saying -- is that many of the fundamental tasks
(static routes etc) we should have mastered (or at least familiarized
ourselves with) during the CCNA/CCNP.  However, I would be that while those
tasks will no longer be graded -- you would still need a mastery of those
basics to be able to proceed with the tasks required of a one-day lab
(Hopefully!!!). Certainly the complexities of the more advanced tasks will
assume a strong understanding of the basics. But we'll see!!!

Greg Macaulay
Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
Lifetime Member of AARP
Retired Attorney/Law Professor

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ciaron Gogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE
[7:12975]


I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's actually
taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the
format...

Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out
there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for
seperating the weed from the chaff??  In the end, the market will get
swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world experience
and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE went..

thats my two cents



-Original Message-
From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE
[7:12943]


thanks

I read this after an all night work session - half asleep


-Original Message-
From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


I think u should read the article more closely

;-)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


This is what I received from a colleague.

Is this true?
http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html




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RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]

2001-07-19 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I'm sure there are people who are good at both types of tasks: CCIE tasks 
and software development tasks. For both jobs, you have to be smart, that's 
for sure.

Well, thinking about the work of Howard Gardner, who wrote some terrific 
books on multiple intelligences, I would change that. To be a CCIE or 
software developer you need logical/mathematical intelligence. Linguistic 
intelligence helps but is not required for either. There seems to be a high 
correlation between logical/mathematical and musical intelligence. I 
suspect that for many support jobs, you need body/kinesthetic intelligence 
and spatial intelligence, which many software developers do not have.

At my local high school I help with both hardware and Cisco classes. The 
school requires the hardware class before the Cisco classes. A certain set 
of students do really well in the hardware class because they have 
excellent body and spatial intelligence. They can take apart and rebuild a 
computer in seconds. Then they get to the Cisco Academy class and are 
expected to read volumes of material on the theory of networking, deal with 
obscure subnetting scenarios, learn file-naming conventions for Cisco IOS, 
pass a written multiple-choice test every other week (requiring linguistic 
intelligence), etc. They spend almost no time building networks. Most of 
the students who were stars in the hardware class do terribly in the Cisco 
classes. It's sad to see them decide that maybe they aren't good with 
computers afterall. I try to build up their egos again, because I think the 
Cisco Academy materials are completely wrong for a high school and don't 
take into account that the networking field needs people of different types 
of intelligence.

That's my $0001. I'd love to hear those blues, Ole! ;-) I love the blues.

Priscilla

At 09:07 AM 7/19/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
I hear what you're saying Phil, and agree that these two areas are very
different. My problem was always the forgetting the time when I was diving
in thousands lines of codes, and I would suddently look at the clock and
discover that it was 4 o'clock in the morning.

It doesn't mean however that you can't do both. It's like when I'm playing
my guitar. Sometimes, I grap my Jackson and play Satriani or Nuno, and at
other times, I grap my handmade Spanish guitar and play classical music, but
most often I use my SRV signature stratocaster and play blues.

The fun begins when you're mixing them all together - that's when you start
playing like Blackmore or Yngwie...

After that being said, I realize that keeping up with new technologies in
both areas can be tough and very time dependant, but it can be done.

Another 0010 cents.

Take care,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:56 AM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]


  Ole,
 I think I know where Priscilla is coming from.
I developed software for 10 years (mainly C/C++)
before turning to Network Engineering. The difference
in the roles in my experience has been dramatic.
 Software Engineering requires an intensity of
concentration that I can only compare to playing
chess. I was rarely required to interact with
customers and as a result my interpersonal skills
didn't develop.
  I took my first job in Networking for a major
bank. This was very open plan and one day the team
leader called the regular meeting. Everyone shuffled
towards the meeting room EXCEPT me. 45 mins later my
team leader came looking for me. I was still at my
desk, deep in concentration. She couldn't stop
laughing as everyone else was taking bets as to when I
would realise that no-one else was there. I hadn't
noticed a thing.
  Customer interaction has also been a learning
curve but fortunately I appear to have picked this
skill up quite naturally.
  I am much happier in my work now and don't intend
to return to Software Development. Both Software
development and Network Engineering are such wide and
diverse fields you cannot possibly keep up with both.
  I havn't written Software for 5 years now and
while the logical skill required to do so will never
leave me the Microsoft Foundation Clases certainly
have.

Regards,

Phil.
--- Ole Drews Jensen  wrote: 
I don't agree with your Priscilla.
 
  Again, I am not a CCIE yet, but I'm on my way. I
  like doing both things (and
  system administration), but then again - maybe I
  have a split personality
  8^O
 
  I agree with you about not finding many with this
  skill, but hopefully I
  will become one soon.
 
  Take care,
 
  Ole
 
  

RE: Latency on ATM interface - Any ideas [7:12978]

2001-07-19 Thread Farhan Ahmed

send me in using different MTU sizes in extended pings
-Original Message-
From: Eric Mwambaji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Latency on ATM interface - Any ideas [7:12978]


I experience intermittent increased latency on
extended pings from a 3662 to another 3662 router
accross my lab WAN. The ping starts off with replies
at 32 ms but once in a while the reply goes over
600ms. ie the replies are not constant. Removing
the vbr-nrt from my config results in faster replies
between 1 and 2 ms but again every 13th or so reply is
10ms. Does any one know what maybe causing this??? My
config is as follows


Router A:

interface ATM3/0
 no ip address
 atm ilmi-keepalive
 pvc 0/16 ilmi
 !
!
interface ATM3/0.1 point-to-point
 ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.252
 pvc 2/100
  protocol ip 192.168.1.1 broadcast
  vbr-nrt 512 128 100
  encapsulation aal5snap
 !
!
interface ATM3/0.2 point-to-point
 pvc voice 2/101
  cbr 500
  encapsulation aal5mux voice
 !

Router B

interface ATM3/0
 no ip address
 atm ilmi-keepalive
 pvc 0/16 ilmi
 !
!
interface ATM3/0.1 point-to-point
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252
 pvc ip 0/50
  protocol ip 192.168.1.2 broadcast
  vbr-nrt 512 128 100
  encapsulation aal5snap
 !
!
interface ATM3/0.2 point-to-point
 pvc voice 0/51
  cbr 500
  encapsulation aal5mux voice
 !
!

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RE: Packet Sizes [7:12826]

2001-07-19 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 09:44 AM 7/19/01, Phil Barker wrote:
Guy,
   it would yield 726 only if you were using an
Ethernet SNAP frame.

My guess is that he was counting the preamble. The preamble doesn't really 
count as part of the frame, but newbies often do count it.


For Ethernet 802.3 (6 byte destination + 6 byte source
(mac addresses) + 2 byte length field + 1 byte SSAP +
1 byte DSAP + 1 byte control + 700 payload + 4 byte
CRC) = 721.

For Ethernet Raw (6 byte destination + 6 byte source
(mac addresses) + 2 ethertype + 700 payload + 4 byte
CRC) = 718.

Call that Ethernet Version II.

Ethernet raw is the term used for Novell's frame type that has length but 
no LLC SSAP, DSAP or control.

Ethernet Raw (6 byte destination + 6 byte source
(mac addresses) + 2 length + 700 payload + 4 byte
CRC) = 718.

The payload launches right into the IPX layer with the IPX checksum, which 
isn't used and is always FF FF.

May I recommend a good paper on this topic? It's called Troubleshooting 
Ethernet Networks and it is currently free at 
http://www.certificationzone.com. The frame formats are nicely drawn in a 
GIF by yours truly. ;-)

Priscilla


For Ethernet SNAP (6 byte destination + 6 byte source
(mac addresses) + 2 byte length field + 1 byte SSAP +
1 byte DSAP (both = 0xAA) + 1 byte control + 5 byte
OUI + 700 payload + 4 byte CRC) = 726.

Regards,

Phil.

PS: I think there is a pocket handbook by Miller that
explains this in more detail.


  --- Lupi, Guy  wrote: 
Thank you to all who replied to this post.  I do
  have another question for
  you.  When the packet is sent to layer 2 for
  encapsulation and transmission,
  if it is Ethernet, an Ethernet header is placed on
  and the frame is
  transmitted.  As far as I know the only requirement
  is that the frame must
  end on a 32 bit boundary, must be at least 64 bytes,
  and is not padded
  further.  So that if the packet is 700 bytes, and is
  encapsulated in an
  Ethernet frame, the total would be approximately 726
  bytes.  Is this
  correct?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:52 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Packet Sizes [7:12826]
 
 
  FTP generally uses a full-size packet: 1500 bytes on
  Ethernet, not counting
  the header, CRC, preamble, inter-frame gap, or any
  VLAN or MPLS tagging.
 
  HTTP does not use a full-size packet usually. You
  would think it would, but
  it tends to use a 500-600 byte packet size. Using a
  shorter packet size
  improves perceived performance because the screen
  can show partial data
  while more data is en route.
 
  ICMP depends on what you are doing and what
  parameters you use. Most error
  or warning messages would be very short, probably 64
  bytes or so. If it's
  ICMP echo (ping), then the user can specify the
  number of bytes.
 
  TFTP sends data in 512 byte blocks. Add the 8-byte
  UDP and 20-byte IP
  header.
 
  For all of these examples, there may be additional
  shorter packets for ACKs
  and other overhead.
 
  Priscilla
 
  At 11:41 AM 7/18/01, Lupi, Guy wrote:
  Does anyone have a list of average packet sizes for
  different services?
  Things like FTP, HTTP, ICMP, TFTP and the like.
  Just something general is
  fine, I am aware that there is no hard and fast
  rule.
  
 
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  http://www.priscilla.com
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Re: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12991]

2001-07-19 Thread Raul F. Fernandez-IGLOU

I dont think anyone should say anything about the new lab until they have
experienced it. And if you are unfortunate enough to be able to compare both
the go ahead. I dont think CISCO is going to in anyway harm the program.

Raul
- Original Message -
From: Greg Macaulay 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12988]


 Perhaps -- you may be correct -- however, it is also possible that there
are
 other justifiable reasons for the change and that the restructuring will
be
 as arduous and thorough as the original lab.

 My read on what they are saying -- is that many of the fundamental tasks
 (static routes etc) we should have mastered (or at least familiarized
 ourselves with) during the CCNA/CCNP.  However, I would be that while
those
 tasks will no longer be graded -- you would still need a mastery of those
 basics to be able to proceed with the tasks required of a one-day lab
 (Hopefully!!!). Certainly the complexities of the more advanced tasks will
 assume a strong understanding of the basics. But we'll see!!!

 Greg Macaulay
 Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
 Lifetime Member of AARP
 Retired Attorney/Law Professor

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Ciaron Gogarty
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE
 [7:12975]


 I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's
actually
 taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the
 format...

 Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out
 there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for
 seperating the weed from the chaff??  In the end, the market will get
 swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world
experience
 and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE
went..

 thats my two cents



 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE
 [7:12943]


 thanks

 I read this after an all night work session - half asleep


 -Original Message-
 From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


 I think u should read the article more closely

 ;-)

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


 This is what I received from a colleague.

 Is this true?
 http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html




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RE: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread Hire, Ejay

The Async BootP commands only work with SLIP connections, not PPP.  (See
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ssr921/rpcr/79012.h
tm#xtocid26281)  Additionally, their isn't one that will supply the domain
name that will be postpended to the hostname to make a fqdn
(host.domain.tld). 

A possible solution appears to be proxying the ip requests to a dhcp server,
or router acting as a dhcp server.  I'll be testing it in a minute or two.

-eh
-Original Message-
From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Remote Access [7:12958]


yes u just need a 
async-bootp dns-server
command folowed by yr dns srv ip
and u are done
and remove the dns suffix from client as welll

Best Regards

Have A Good Day!!

Farhan Ahmed
   MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE
Network Engineer
Mideast Data Systems Abudhabi Uae.


-Original Message-
From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Remote Access [7:12958]


The clients are getting assigned from a local pool using ppp...They are
authenticated against a securid server using tacacs+.  Once they are
authenticated we have them type ppp default at the router prompt to
finish the connection.  Below is the config with my ip info omitted.

Thanks for everyone's help,

JR

ip domain-list *
ip domain-list *
ip domain-name *
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip address-pool local

ip local pool local 'range'

interface Group-Async1
 ip unnumbered Loopback0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 ip tcp header-compression passive
 dialer in-band
 dialer idle-timeout 900
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60
 dialer-group 1
 async dynamic address
 async dynamic routing
 async mode interactive
 no snmp trap link-status
 peer default ip address pool local
 no fair-queue
 group-range 1 24

line 2 24
 exec-timeout 30 0
 logout-warning 120
 script dialer cisco-default
 accounting connection test
 login authentication async-tacacs+
 modem Dialin
 modem autoconfigure discovery
 terminal-type vt100


Hire, Ejay wrote:
 
 It is possible to do this, depending on how your clients are getting the
Ip
 addresses.  From your statements I assume the access sever is handing them
 out via PPP, but where is the router getting the IP's?  From a local pool
 (most likely), a radius server, a local DHCP server, or ?
 
 Additionally, can you post or e-mail me a copy of your config.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
 must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
 names.
 
 Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
 the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
 async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
 information?
 
 thanks for your help,
 
 JR




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RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]

2001-07-19 Thread Brian Dennis

Peter,
The issue isn't a one day / two day issue. I'm sure the one day lab with be
tough and at first we will see a lot of people failing it. Cisco has to do
this to ensure that it looks like a good decision but wait for a few months
after a ton of people take it. The beta one day lab was really hard and
failed many people. Bruce Caslow scored a 27/100 and Phil Remaker scored
35/100. Some people declined to take it because they knew that they would be
setup to fail ;) But that isn't what Cisco is trying to do. Cisco is using
the long waiting list as an excuse to move to a one day remote lab. If Cisco
really wanted to shorten the waiting list they would fix the written but
that wouldn't give them an excuse to go to a one day remote lab.

People should not be fooled into thinking this a one day / two day issue or
a long waiting list issue. This is just a start of the changes to come for
the CCIE lab.

Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (RS)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640
5G Networks, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Peter Van Oene
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE
[7:12980]


Are you missing the point that the lab with still be very tough?  The only
issue is meeting the customer demand for rack time for testing.  Cisco
cannot do this in a two day format and much of the two day stuff was
overhead.  I personally think one day will be tougher.

Pete


*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 7/19/2001 at 1:25 PM Ciaron Gogarty wrote:

I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's
actually
taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the
format...

Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out
there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for
seperating the weed from the chaff??  In the end, the market will get
swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world
experience
and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE went..

thats my two cents



-Original Message-
From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE
[7:12943]


thanks

I read this after an all night work session - half asleep


-Original Message-
From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


I think u should read the article more closely

;-)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]


This is what I received from a colleague.

Is this true?
http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html




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5w5d: %AMDP2_FE-5-EXCESSCOLL: Ethernet0/0 TDR=9, TRC=0 [7:12994]

2001-07-19 Thread Leonardo Borda

Does anybody already have that message in your routers?

5w5d: %AMDP2_FE-5-EXCESSCOLL: Ethernet0/0 TDR=9, TRC=0

It4s strange because I have a Cisco 2600 and I have no many workstations
connected to it...
If anybody had the same problem and found an answer please

Thanks!




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RE: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread Farhan Ahmed

he is using ppp isnt it..

when the client will have the dns server

ping hosta

the dns will reply with the ip, and he would be able to ping by name..
if he make a zone on dns server lets say

zonea.co.ae

and then he would make a  A record 

so hosta name will be
hosta.zonea.co.ae

when he will ping hosta

he ll get a reply

from 
hosta.zonea.co.ae

what do u say?

-Original Message-
From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:43 PM
To: 'Farhan Ahmed'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Remote Access [7:12958]


The Async BootP commands only work with SLIP connections, not PPP.  (See
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ssr921/rpcr/79012.h
tm#xtocid26281)  Additionally, their isn't one that will supply the domain
name that will be postpended to the hostname to make a fqdn
(host.domain.tld). 

A possible solution appears to be proxying the ip requests to a dhcp server,
or router acting as a dhcp server.  I'll be testing it in a minute or two.

-eh
-Original Message-
From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Remote Access [7:12958]


yes u just need a 
async-bootp dns-server
command folowed by yr dns srv ip
and u are done
and remove the dns suffix from client as welll

Best Regards

Have A Good Day!!

Farhan Ahmed
   MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE
Network Engineer
Mideast Data Systems Abudhabi Uae.


-Original Message-
From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Remote Access [7:12958]


The clients are getting assigned from a local pool using ppp...They are
authenticated against a securid server using tacacs+.  Once they are
authenticated we have them type ppp default at the router prompt to
finish the connection.  Below is the config with my ip info omitted.

Thanks for everyone's help,

JR

ip domain-list *
ip domain-list *
ip domain-name *
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip address-pool local

ip local pool local 'range'

interface Group-Async1
 ip unnumbered Loopback0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 ip tcp header-compression passive
 dialer in-band
 dialer idle-timeout 900
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60
 dialer-group 1
 async dynamic address
 async dynamic routing
 async mode interactive
 no snmp trap link-status
 peer default ip address pool local
 no fair-queue
 group-range 1 24

line 2 24
 exec-timeout 30 0
 logout-warning 120
 script dialer cisco-default
 accounting connection test
 login authentication async-tacacs+
 modem Dialin
 modem autoconfigure discovery
 terminal-type vt100


Hire, Ejay wrote:
 
 It is possible to do this, depending on how your clients are getting the
Ip
 addresses.  From your statements I assume the access sever is handing them
 out via PPP, but where is the router getting the IP's?  From a local pool
 (most likely), a radius server, a local DHCP server, or ?
 
 Additionally, can you post or e-mail me a copy of your config.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
 must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
 names.
 
 Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
 the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
 async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
 information?
 
 thanks for your help,
 
 JR




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Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12996]

2001-07-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Dec 9,  2:34am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
}
} Can you give me some examples of developments they pulled back on/never
} delivered? (we can take this off line if you prefer, I'm not sure what
} interest there is in this discussion by others).

 I'm interested in this.  As Caesar said, know thy enemy.  Or,
more to the point, it is always good to know what is going on in the
marketplace.  Competition keeps everybody on their toes and helps to
improve both products and services.

} We are starting to stage equiptment this week thoughwe used to be a
} 3com shop and Extreme seemed to have the most/best interconnectivity with
} the old 3com gear, among other reasons.

 Considering 3Com never was a serious player on the high end, and
is now out of the market, you should probably plan on migrating away
from your 3Com gear.

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RE: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread Farhan Ahmed

u can also put the host name in wins server and use dnslookup on the wins
tab
it will give him a fqdn.


-Original Message-
From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Remote Access [7:12958]


The Async BootP commands only work with SLIP connections, not PPP.  (See
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ssr921/rpcr/79012.h
tm#xtocid26281)  Additionally, their isn't one that will supply the domain
name that will be postpended to the hostname to make a fqdn
(host.domain.tld). 

A possible solution appears to be proxying the ip requests to a dhcp server,
or router acting as a dhcp server.  I'll be testing it in a minute or two.

-eh
-Original Message-
From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Remote Access [7:12958]


yes u just need a 
async-bootp dns-server
command folowed by yr dns srv ip
and u are done
and remove the dns suffix from client as welll

Best Regards

Have A Good Day!!

Farhan Ahmed
   MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE
Network Engineer
Mideast Data Systems Abudhabi Uae.


-Original Message-
From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Remote Access [7:12958]


The clients are getting assigned from a local pool using ppp...They are
authenticated against a securid server using tacacs+.  Once they are
authenticated we have them type ppp default at the router prompt to
finish the connection.  Below is the config with my ip info omitted.

Thanks for everyone's help,

JR

ip domain-list *
ip domain-list *
ip domain-name *
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip name-server x.x.x.x
ip address-pool local

ip local pool local 'range'

interface Group-Async1
 ip unnumbered Loopback0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 ip tcp header-compression passive
 dialer in-band
 dialer idle-timeout 900
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60
 dialer-group 1
 async dynamic address
 async dynamic routing
 async mode interactive
 no snmp trap link-status
 peer default ip address pool local
 no fair-queue
 group-range 1 24

line 2 24
 exec-timeout 30 0
 logout-warning 120
 script dialer cisco-default
 accounting connection test
 login authentication async-tacacs+
 modem Dialin
 modem autoconfigure discovery
 terminal-type vt100


Hire, Ejay wrote:
 
 It is possible to do this, depending on how your clients are getting the
Ip
 addresses.  From your statements I assume the access sever is handing them
 out via PPP, but where is the router getting the IP's?  From a local pool
 (most likely), a radius server, a local DHCP server, or ?
 
 Additionally, can you post or e-mail me a copy of your config.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
 must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
 names.
 
 Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
 the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
 async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
 information?
 
 thanks for your help,
 
 JR




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Re: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread JR Van Noy

Thanks for investigating this.  I agree with the DHCP solution.  That
will work best since these same remote users will bring their laptops
into the office from time to time as well.

JR

Hire, Ejay wrote:
 
 The Async BootP commands only work with SLIP connections, not PPP.  (See

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ssr921/rpcr/79012.h
 tm#xtocid26281)  Additionally, their isn't one that will supply the domain
 name that will be postpended to the hostname to make a fqdn
 (host.domain.tld).
 
 A possible solution appears to be proxying the ip requests to a dhcp
server,
 or router acting as a dhcp server.  I'll be testing it in a minute or two.
 
 -eh
 -Original Message-
 From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:04 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 yes u just need a
 async-bootp dns-server
 command folowed by yr dns srv ip
 and u are done
 and remove the dns suffix from client as welll
 
 Best Regards
 
 Have A Good Day!!
 
 Farhan Ahmed
MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE
 Network Engineer
 Mideast Data Systems Abudhabi Uae.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 The clients are getting assigned from a local pool using ppp...They are
 authenticated against a securid server using tacacs+.  Once they are
 authenticated we have them type ppp default at the router prompt to
 finish the connection.  Below is the config with my ip info omitted.
 
 Thanks for everyone's help,
 
 JR
 
 ip domain-list *
 ip domain-list *
 ip domain-name *
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip address-pool local
 
 ip local pool local 'range'
 
 interface Group-Async1
  ip unnumbered Loopback0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  encapsulation ppp
  ip tcp header-compression passive
  dialer in-band
  dialer idle-timeout 900
  dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60
  dialer-group 1
  async dynamic address
  async dynamic routing
  async mode interactive
  no snmp trap link-status
  peer default ip address pool local
  no fair-queue
  group-range 1 24
 
 line 2 24
  exec-timeout 30 0
  logout-warning 120
  script dialer cisco-default
  accounting connection test
  login authentication async-tacacs+
  modem Dialin
  modem autoconfigure discovery
  terminal-type vt100
 
 Hire, Ejay wrote:
 
  It is possible to do this, depending on how your clients are getting the
 Ip
  addresses.  From your statements I assume the access sever is handing
them
  out via PPP, but where is the router getting the IP's?  From a local pool
  (most likely), a radius server, a local DHCP server, or ?
 
  Additionally, can you post or e-mail me a copy of your config.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:58 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
  I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
  must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
  names.
 
  Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
  the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
  async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
  information?
 
  thanks for your help,
 
  JR




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Re: Packet Sizes [7:12826]

2001-07-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

!Hola!

 HTTP does not use a full-size packet usually. You would think it would,
but
 it tends to use a 500-600 byte packet size. Using a shorter packet size 
 improves perceived performance because the screen can show partial data 
 while more data is en route.

What HTTP servers do that? A quick check here let me see that most of the
HTTP connections use full size packets.

 Priscilla

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Re: Subject: Why ISDN backup line come up ? [7:12920]

2001-07-19 Thread Paul Werner

Comments within and below.

First, I noted that you used the backup interface command on a 
physical interface.  Have you considered the idea of using 
dialer interfaces as the backup interface?  When you do this, 
it offers you a little bit more flexibility.  For example, I 
noted that your serial interface is a 128kbps link.  You may 
want to explore the possibility of using a dialer interface for 
two purposes.  One purpose would be to act as a backup 
interface.  Another purpose could be to use it for additional 
bandwidth if your primary serial interface gets congested.  

 Hello all.
 I have 2 routers connected using leased line.Now I am trying 
to put a
 ISDN
 backup ,but the backup line does not come up.
 The status of ISDN line when the serial int. is up ,is
  BRI2/2 is standby mode, line protocol is down
 and should change to up upon going the serial line down but 
it's status
 remain unchanged even the serial link goes down .

You are correct.  The issue is one of troubleshooting.  
Assuming you have a primary link filure, your backup interface 
should go active (up and up) after a 5 second delay that you 
configured.  According to you this is not happening.  You have 
not mentioned what troubleshooting steps you have taken.  When 
you remove the backup interface command from the primary 
interface, what is the output from show isdn status?  Are  
layers 1 and 2 good?  Assuming they are good, when you place 
the backup interface command back on the primary interface, 
what happens when you do a debug dialer and a debug ppp neg 
after the primary link has been made to fail.  Assuming you had 
a dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit statement near the end of 
your config [note- you didn't post your entire config, so I am 
guessing here] you should get a call placed to the other side. 
More below...

 I have configued the serial int with
 backup interface BRI2/2
 backup delay 5 10
 commands . Also i tried to simulate the situation by putting 
the modem
 at
 Router A off to trigger the backup ISDN call but it does not 
happen and
 the
 ISDN status remain in standyby mode only.
 Can anybody help whether anyadditional command needs to be 
put up in
 either
 Serial or Bri interfaces?
 I am giving here th configuration of both the routers,
 routerA#
 
  interface BRI2/2
  description Backup connectivity 
  ip address 172.16.128.49 255.255.255.252
  no ip directed-broadcast
  encapsulation ppp
  dialer map ip 172.16.128.50 name routerB  x
  dialer-group 2
  isdn switch-type basic-net3

I noted that you set your encapsulation to ppp.  That is fine.  
One of the many/several options for ppp is authentication.  You 
indicated in your dialer map statement that you will be doing 
authentication by use of the name command.  Unfortunately 
however, you have not specified what method is to be used on 
either end of the link.  I would start with ppp auth chap.  
It ends to be more secure.

 interface Serial1/3
  description Leased link to RouterB
  bandwidth 128
  backup delay 5 10
  backup interface BRI2/2
  ip address 172.16.128.17 255.255.255.252
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
  no ip mroute-cache


How are you actually testing this? Since you didn't supply a 
full config, this is not readily apparent.  For example, is 
there a LAN on the other side of router B?  If so, what is the 
network address of the LAN interface?  Where is the static (or 
other) route that points to this network?  When you test your 
reachability, do you ping the other side of the WAN link, or 
the other side of the LAN network on router B?


 RouterB#
 interface BRI1/2
  description Backup connectivity for RouterA
  ip address 172.16.128.50 255.255.255.252
  encapsulation ppp
  no logging event subif-link-status
  dialer idle-timeout 3000
  dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60
  dialer map ip 172.16.128.49 name routerB YYY
  dialer-group 1
  no fair-queue

Here there is an additional problem.  Look at the name command 
two lines above.  The host name following the name command 
should be the target you are trying to authenticate, not 
yourself.  Also, since you didn't post your entire config, I 
have no way of knowing whether you set the username/password 
lists for both routers.  They would look like this and appear 
in the global config near the top:

user RouterA pass sameone
user RouterB pass sameone

Note the passwords are the same, also referred to as a shared 
secret.

 
 interface Serial0/0
  ip address 172.16.128.18 255.255.255.252
  logging event subif-link-status
  bandwidth 128
 
  hold-queue 75 in
 
 
 Thanks in advance for help
 Regards
 
 Bware

This post has gotten kind of long.  I will see if I can post an 
improved/enhanced config in a separate post, possibly later 
today as time permits.

HTH,

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Re: Passed CCNA [7:11900]

2001-07-19 Thread Leonardo Borda

Hello.

I4m studying to pass in the CCNA exam too and I really believe that
courses are not very good, because it is a little superficial in all
subjects. I personally prefer to get a cisco book, study it and practice at
work and doing prep tests...
If you like to share some information and need help i4m ready to you! :)

[]4s Borda.


Tansel Akyuz  wrote in message
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 I passed CCNA exam two days ago. I didn't go to Cisci Academy or use
 RouterSim. I study with Cisco Press ICND book and training pappers. But I
 use Boson test and I think it was very useful.

 Regards

 Tansel

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 5:38 AM
 To: Tansel Akyuz
 Subject: Passed CCNA


 How did you do it?  What did you use to study?  Did you go to Cisco
Academy,

 use routersim?  Please share.

 Val




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RE: New format for CCIE exams (written qualificati [7:12364]

2001-07-19 Thread Greg Macaulay

Has anyone got an opinion on the ccbootcamp notes for the written?  How
comprehensive are they?? How many pages? etc.  ANy feedback would be
appreciated.

Actually I have a friend (now a CCIE) who said he used on these notes (and
nothing else) and passed on the first try.  I wonder if this actually might
be true -- especially for those who have just completed the CCNP -- a lot of
the suggested books and resources I used on my journey through the CCNP --
thus - perhaps such reading is simply a review?? Of course those who are
going straight to the CCIE (without the CCNP) or who have been away from
their studies for awhile -- probably would do good to review Halabi, Doyle
and their compatriots!

Anyway -- still awaiting -- with bated breath -- comments, criticisms etc.
on ccbootcamp written notes.

Thanks in advance.

Greg Macaulay
Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
Lifetime Member of AARP
Retired Attorney/Law Professor

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Dennis Laganiere
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 6:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New format for CCIE exams (written qualification) [7:12364]


Here is my advice to anyone who is even considering the CCIE track in the
near future:

The current exam is fairly well document; there are books, papers, websites,
and of course, the boson exams.  The new exam is just that, a new exam full
of unknowns.  I'm sure it too will become well researched, but for the first
six months everyone is going to be in uncharted waters with no map to get to
shore.  As someone who took the CCNP exams when they were first offered, I
know what it's like to sail without a map, trust me.

In its statement Cisco says that those who pass the existing exam will not
be required to redo the written.

If I were even planning to jump on the written in the next year, my
recommendation would be to take advantage of this time window to cram my
brain full and take the current exam while you can. There should be plenty
of time to take a hack at this before the beta exam period finished on the
new test.  If you need help finding the right materials to study; just look
in the archives.

Grab a couple of the study guides, buy the notes from ccbootcamp, download
the bosons, and absolutely analyze the archives of this group like it's the
Rosetta stone.

Just my $.02



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From: Ray Lovett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 11:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New format for CCIE exams (written qualification) [7:12364]


Hi Group,

Reading about the changes in store for the CCIE program I have a
question.
The following sentence suggests that the CCIE written exam will change
as
well, that much is clear but what I don't understand is how and when the

written will change. Will the exam still be 100 multiple choice
questions with
a two-hour time limit or will you now have to cable some gear and
produce
an addressing plan/diagram? Also, does the new qualification exam begin
on October 1 as well?

 The new CCIE format will move these basic tasks into an extended
qualification exam and Cisco's other certifications, thus freeing the
candidate's time for the more advanced CCIE skills.

Maybe I'm missing something but I could use a little clarity on this
one.

Thanks,
Ray

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Networkers presentation links [7:13002]

2001-07-19 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I know these have been posted before, but in case you missed it:

http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw01/pres/index.html

lots of big PDF files. you may want to download or view over higher speed
connections.

enjoy

Chuck




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RE: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread Farhan Ahmed

dhcp wont solve this problem ..i guess u have to pass out dns add to clients

-Original Message-
From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Remote Access [7:12958]


Thanks for investigating this.  I agree with the DHCP solution.  That
will work best since these same remote users will bring their laptops
into the office from time to time as well.

JR

Hire, Ejay wrote:
 
 The Async BootP commands only work with SLIP connections, not PPP.  (See

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ssr921/rpcr/79012.h
 tm#xtocid26281)  Additionally, their isn't one that will supply the domain
 name that will be postpended to the hostname to make a fqdn
 (host.domain.tld).
 
 A possible solution appears to be proxying the ip requests to a dhcp
server,
 or router acting as a dhcp server.  I'll be testing it in a minute or two.
 
 -eh
 -Original Message-
 From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:04 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 yes u just need a
 async-bootp dns-server
 command folowed by yr dns srv ip
 and u are done
 and remove the dns suffix from client as welll
 
 Best Regards
 
 Have A Good Day!!
 
 Farhan Ahmed
MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE
 Network Engineer
 Mideast Data Systems Abudhabi Uae.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 The clients are getting assigned from a local pool using ppp...They are
 authenticated against a securid server using tacacs+.  Once they are
 authenticated we have them type ppp default at the router prompt to
 finish the connection.  Below is the config with my ip info omitted.
 
 Thanks for everyone's help,
 
 JR
 
 ip domain-list *
 ip domain-list *
 ip domain-name *
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip address-pool local
 
 ip local pool local 'range'
 
 interface Group-Async1
  ip unnumbered Loopback0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  encapsulation ppp
  ip tcp header-compression passive
  dialer in-band
  dialer idle-timeout 900
  dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60
  dialer-group 1
  async dynamic address
  async dynamic routing
  async mode interactive
  no snmp trap link-status
  peer default ip address pool local
  no fair-queue
  group-range 1 24
 
 line 2 24
  exec-timeout 30 0
  logout-warning 120
  script dialer cisco-default
  accounting connection test
  login authentication async-tacacs+
  modem Dialin
  modem autoconfigure discovery
  terminal-type vt100
 
 Hire, Ejay wrote:
 
  It is possible to do this, depending on how your clients are getting the
 Ip
  addresses.  From your statements I assume the access sever is handing
them
  out via PPP, but where is the router getting the IP's?  From a local
pool
  (most likely), a radius server, a local DHCP server, or ?
 
  Additionally, can you post or e-mail me a copy of your config.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:58 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
  I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
  must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
  names.
 
  Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
  the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
  async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
  information?
 
  thanks for your help,
 
  JR




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ARP Input Problem [7:13003]

2001-07-19 Thread Chris Headings

I have a weird onewe have a client that is connected to us via
ethernet.  We have a 7513 on our side and they have a 2621.  They are
receving a LOT of arp input, so much in fact that their router is maxed out
at 100%.  The sh proc cpu shows arp input as the culprit

When you do a sh arp, they only entry that should be in their 2621 is our
7513 with the proper IP and MAC combobut instead the arp table (in the
clients 2621) goes on forever and shows random IP's associated with the MAC
of our 7513 FA

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thx

Chris


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Re: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread JR Van Noy

Agreed...Our nt admins would prefer if they didn't have to put this info
in for every dial up connection.  I know it's not much but I thought  I
could have a quick solution.

Thanks,

JR

Farhan Ahmed wrote:
 
 u can also put the host name in wins server and use dnslookup on the wins
 tab
 it will give him a fqdn.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 The Async BootP commands only work with SLIP connections, not PPP.  (See

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ssr921/rpcr/79012.h
 tm#xtocid26281)  Additionally, their isn't one that will supply the domain
 name that will be postpended to the hostname to make a fqdn
 (host.domain.tld).
 
 A possible solution appears to be proxying the ip requests to a dhcp
server,
 or router acting as a dhcp server.  I'll be testing it in a minute or two.
 
 -eh
 -Original Message-
 From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:04 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 yes u just need a
 async-bootp dns-server
 command folowed by yr dns srv ip
 and u are done
 and remove the dns suffix from client as welll
 
 Best Regards
 
 Have A Good Day!!
 
 Farhan Ahmed
MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE
 Network Engineer
 Mideast Data Systems Abudhabi Uae.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 The clients are getting assigned from a local pool using ppp...They are
 authenticated against a securid server using tacacs+.  Once they are
 authenticated we have them type ppp default at the router prompt to
 finish the connection.  Below is the config with my ip info omitted.
 
 Thanks for everyone's help,
 
 JR
 
 ip domain-list *
 ip domain-list *
 ip domain-name *
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip address-pool local
 
 ip local pool local 'range'
 
 interface Group-Async1
  ip unnumbered Loopback0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  encapsulation ppp
  ip tcp header-compression passive
  dialer in-band
  dialer idle-timeout 900
  dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60
  dialer-group 1
  async dynamic address
  async dynamic routing
  async mode interactive
  no snmp trap link-status
  peer default ip address pool local
  no fair-queue
  group-range 1 24
 
 line 2 24
  exec-timeout 30 0
  logout-warning 120
  script dialer cisco-default
  accounting connection test
  login authentication async-tacacs+
  modem Dialin
  modem autoconfigure discovery
  terminal-type vt100
 
 Hire, Ejay wrote:
 
  It is possible to do this, depending on how your clients are getting the
 Ip
  addresses.  From your statements I assume the access sever is handing
them
  out via PPP, but where is the router getting the IP's?  From a local pool
  (most likely), a radius server, a local DHCP server, or ?
 
  Additionally, can you post or e-mail me a copy of your config.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:58 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
  I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
  must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
  names.
 
  Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
  the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
  async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
  information?
 
  thanks for your help,
 
  JR




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RE: Latency on ATM interface - Any ideas [7:12978]

2001-07-19 Thread Farhan Ahmed

u need to cont ur telco they are dropping ur traffic
is there too much load on line?

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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:23 PM
To: Farhan Ahmed
Subject: RE: Latency on ATM interface - Any ideas [7:12978]


ping
Protocol [ip]: 
Target IP address: pingy   50192.168.1.1
Repeat count [5]: 50
Datagram size [100]: 
Timeout in seconds [2]: 
Extended commands [n]: y
Source address or interface: 
Type of service [0]: 
Set DF bit in IP header? [no]: 
Validate reply data? [no]: y
Data pattern [0xABCD]: 
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
verbose
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[V]: 
Sweep range of sizes [n]: 
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 50, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.1.1,
timeout is 2 seconds:
Reply to request 0 (708 ms)
Reply to request 1 (68 ms)
Reply to request 2 (48 ms)
Reply to request 3 (56 ms)
Reply to request 4 (48 ms)
Reply to request 5 (76 ms)
Reply to request 6 (44 ms)
Reply to request 7 (48 ms)
Reply to request 8 (56 ms)
Reply to request 9 (48 ms)
Reply to request 10 (44 ms)
Reply to request 11 (48 ms)
Reply to request 12 (44 ms)
Reply to request 13 (48 ms)
Reply to request 14 (48 ms)
Reply to request 15 (44 ms)
Reply to request 16 (48 ms)
Reply to request 17 (44 ms)
Reply to request 18 (48 ms)
Reply to request 19 (44 ms)
Reply to request 20 (48 ms)
Reply to request 21 (48 ms)
Reply to request 22 (44 ms)
Reply to request 23 (48 ms)
Reply to request 24 (44 ms)
Reply to request 25 (48 ms)
Reply to request 26 (48 ms)
Reply to request 27 (44 ms)
Reply to request 28 (48 ms)
Reply to request 29 (44 ms)
Reply to request 30 (48 ms)
Reply to request 31 (44 ms)
Reply to request 32 (48 ms)
Reply to request 33 (76 ms)
Reply to request 0 (708 ms)
Reply to request 34 (48 ms)
Reply to request 35 (48 ms)
Reply to request 36 (44 ms)
Reply to request 37 (48 ms)
Reply to request 38 (68 ms)
Reply to request 39 (44 ms)
Reply to request 40 (48 ms)
Reply to request 41 (48 ms)
Reply to request 42 (68 ms)
Reply to request 43 (44 ms)
Reply to request 44 (48 ms)
Reply to request 45 (44 ms)
Reply to request 46 (48 ms)
Reply to request 47 (68 ms)
Reply to request 48 (48 ms)
Reply to request 49 (44 ms)
Success rate is 100 percent (50/50), round-trip
min/avg/max = 44/62/708 ms


ping   
Protocol [ip]: 
Target IP address: pingverbosey 
50192.168.1.1
Repeat count [5]: 50
Datagram size [100]: 1500
Timeout in seconds [2]: 
Extended commands [n]: y
Source address or interface: 
Type of service [0]: 
Set DF bit in IP header? [no]: 
Validate reply data? [no]: y
Data pattern [0xABCD]: 
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Verbose
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[V]: 
Sweep range of sizes [n]: 
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 50, 1500-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.1.1,
timeout is 2 seconds:
Reply to request 0 (708 ms)
Reply to request 1 (704 ms)
Reply to request 2 (716 ms)
Reply to request 3 (704 ms)
Reply to request 4 (704 ms)
Reply to request 5 (708 ms)
Reply to request 6 (704 ms)
Reply to request 7 (708 ms)
Reply to request 8 (704 ms)
Reply to request 9 (708 ms)
Reply to request 10 (740 ms)
Reply to request 11 (704 ms)
Reply to request 12 (708 ms)
Reply to request 13 (704 ms)
Reply to request 14 (704 ms)
Reply to request 15 (708 ms)
Reply to request 16 (704 ms)
Reply to request 17 (708 ms)
Reply to request 18 (1184 ms)
Reply to request 19 (1184 ms)
Reply to request 20 (704 ms)
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Success rate is 100 percent (50/50), round-trip
min/avg/max = 704/726/1184 ms

sho at  i atm int atm3/0.1
Interface ATM3/0:
AAL enabled:  AAL5 , Maximum VCs: 1024, Current VCCs:
18

Maximum Transmit Channels: 64
Max. Datagram Size: 4496
PLIM Type: DS3 - 45000Kbps, Framing is C-bit ADM,
DS3 lbo: short, TX clocking: LINE
Cell-payload scrambling: OFF
13830 input, 9729 output, 2129 IN fast, 1312 OUT fast,
0 out dropCBR : 500 VBR-NRT : 128 
 Avail bw = 44372 
Config. is ACTIVE
TOKYO#sho atm traffic
16049 Input packets
11101 Output packets
0 Broadcast packets
0 Packets received on non-existent VC
0 Packets attempted to send on non-existent VC
0 OAM cells received
F5 

Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab [7:13005]

2001-07-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Agreed on keeping up with what is going on, I just didn't want to drag a
conversation that others might not be interested in through a mailing list,
I'll certainly be willing to keep the conversation public if no one
objects.

As for the 3com stuff, I may have given the wrong impression. We are indeed
migrating away from it, but our migration plan requires a certain time
frame where it will be necessary to have interoperability between
switcheswe are definitely getting rid of that junk...uh...I mean
equipment!



   

   
jnemeth@victo
ria.tc.caTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(John Nemeth),
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

cc:
07/19/2001   Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD
!!  was: Current Wait time on the
02:46 PM lab
[7:12935]
   

   





On Dec 9,  2:34am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
}
} Can you give me some examples of developments they pulled back on/never
} delivered? (we can take this off line if you prefer, I'm not sure what
} interest there is in this discussion by others).

 I'm interested in this.  As Caesar said, know thy enemy.  Or,
more to the point, it is always good to know what is going on in the
marketplace.  Competition keeps everybody on their toes and helps to
improve both products and services.

} We are starting to stage equiptment this week thoughwe used to be a
} 3com shop and Extreme seemed to have the most/best interconnectivity with
} the old 3com gear, among other reasons.

 Considering 3Com never was a serious player on the high end, and
is now out of the market, you should probably plan on migrating away
from your 3Com gear.

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RE: Networkers presentation links [7:13009]

2001-07-19 Thread Padhu (LFG)

Thanks Chuck,

Great resource here.
http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw01/pres/preso/RoutingandSwitchingTechnolog
ies/RST-204.pdf
Was just going thro this ...Look at te one on privilege levels. I am pasting
whats out there.
show running-config looks like it needs more than the defined privilege
levels to get this 
to work. I have tried enabling router level, Ip under interface etc...only
to still see part of the config.. I wonder if you have to enable a long list
of things to see the entire running-config... Might as well give 'em a print
out of the config for the level 5 users. -)


any ideas ?

Cheers,Padhu

-
username gltest privilege 5 password 0 gltest
privilege configure level 5 interface
privilege interface level 5 shutdown
privilege exec level 5 show ip route
privilege exec level 5 configure terminal
privilege exec level 5 show running-config


Now i do disable 5
R5#show running-config
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
!
interface Ethernet0
!
interface Serial0
!
interface Serial0.1 point-to-point
!
interface Serial0.2 multipoint
!
interface Serial1
!
interface BRI0
 shutdown
!
!
end

R5#


-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:39 PM
To: Cisco Mail List; CCIE_Lab Groupstudy List
Subject: Networkers presentation links


I know these have been posted before, but in case you missed it:

http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw01/pres/index.html

lots of big PDF files. you may want to download or view over higher speed
connections.

enjoy

Chuck
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Re: ARP Input Problem [7:13003]

2001-07-19 Thread Jaspreet Bhatia

ARe you using IOS ver 11.2 ?

see this link

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/770/fa112-arp_eigrp.shtml

clear the arp table and configure a static arp entry and see if that works ?

Let me know what works eventually ?

Jaspreet

Chris Headings wrote:

 I have a weird onewe have a client that is connected to us via
 ethernet.  We have a 7513 on our side and they have a 2621.  They are
 receving a LOT of arp input, so much in fact that their router is maxed out
 at 100%.  The sh proc cpu shows arp input as the culprit

 When you do a sh arp, they only entry that should be in their 2621 is our
 7513 with the proper IP and MAC combobut instead the arp table (in the
 clients 2621) goes on forever and shows random IP's associated with the MAC
 of our 7513 FA

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Thx

 Chris




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dv protocols and nbma? [7:13011]

2001-07-19 Thread jason douglas

OK, time for the dumb question of the day  or is it?

Distance Vector protocols generally broadcast their messages (RIPv1 uses
udp 520). How are these broadcasts propagated on an NBMA like frame or
atm? The config examples on CCO don't show frame-relay dlci xxx
*broadcast* statements.

Does the IOS automagically copy these messages to every pvc on the
interface? And where is this documented? 

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Pager 888-451-0755




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RE: Remote Access [7:12958]

2001-07-19 Thread Hire, Ejay

I just finished testing this, and I had success with using an external DHCP
server (a Nt box) and setting the options in the NT server and using: 
Ip address-pool DHCP-proxy-client
Ip DHCP-server 10.0.0.1

I would like to try setting the router up as a DHCP server and see if I can
Ip DHCP-server 127.0.0.1 
but my TFTP server has fallen down and it can't get up.

-eh

-Original Message-
From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 3:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Remote Access [7:12958]


Thanks for investigating this.  I agree with the DHCP solution.  That
will work best since these same remote users will bring their laptops
into the office from time to time as well.

JR

Hire, Ejay wrote:
 
 The Async BootP commands only work with SLIP connections, not PPP.  (See

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ssr921/rpcr/79012.h
 tm#xtocid26281)  Additionally, their isn't one that will supply the domain
 name that will be postpended to the hostname to make a fqdn
 (host.domain.tld).
 
 A possible solution appears to be proxying the ip requests to a dhcp
server,
 or router acting as a dhcp server.  I'll be testing it in a minute or two.
 
 -eh
 -Original Message-
 From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:04 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 yes u just need a
 async-bootp dns-server
 command folowed by yr dns srv ip
 and u are done
 and remove the dns suffix from client as welll
 
 Best Regards
 
 Have A Good Day!!
 
 Farhan Ahmed
MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE
 Network Engineer
 Mideast Data Systems Abudhabi Uae.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
 The clients are getting assigned from a local pool using ppp...They are
 authenticated against a securid server using tacacs+.  Once they are
 authenticated we have them type ppp default at the router prompt to
 finish the connection.  Below is the config with my ip info omitted.
 
 Thanks for everyone's help,
 
 JR
 
 ip domain-list *
 ip domain-list *
 ip domain-name *
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip name-server x.x.x.x
 ip address-pool local
 
 ip local pool local 'range'
 
 interface Group-Async1
  ip unnumbered Loopback0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  encapsulation ppp
  ip tcp header-compression passive
  dialer in-band
  dialer idle-timeout 900
  dialer wait-for-carrier-time 60
  dialer-group 1
  async dynamic address
  async dynamic routing
  async mode interactive
  no snmp trap link-status
  peer default ip address pool local
  no fair-queue
  group-range 1 24
 
 line 2 24
  exec-timeout 30 0
  logout-warning 120
  script dialer cisco-default
  accounting connection test
  login authentication async-tacacs+
  modem Dialin
  modem autoconfigure discovery
  terminal-type vt100
 
 Hire, Ejay wrote:
 
  It is possible to do this, depending on how your clients are getting the
 Ip
  addresses.  From your statements I assume the access sever is handing
them
  out via PPP, but where is the router getting the IP's?  From a local
pool
  (most likely), a radius server, a local DHCP server, or ?
 
  Additionally, can you post or e-mail me a copy of your config.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: JR Van Noy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:58 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Remote Access [7:12958]
 
  I have a 3640 set up with async dial in for remote users.  The laptops
  must be configured to to append domain suffixes in order resolve host
  names.
 
  Is it possible to have this information sent from the router?  I do have
  the ip domain-list/name commands configured, but can I  set this for the
  async-group, and pass it down when a user connects and receives ip
  information?
 
  thanks for your help,
 
  JR




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Re: ARP Input Problem [7:13003]

2001-07-19 Thread Chris Headings

We are using  12.0(7)T for the IOS


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Re: ARP Input Problem [7:13003]

2001-07-19 Thread Chris Headings

Alsohow can I filter a MAC addressfound one from the mac-accounting
that looks suspicious???


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RE: Configuring 2600 series router for use with DSL [7:12643]

2001-07-19 Thread Rizzo Damian

Since no one else opted to field your question, please allow me. 

 It is absolutely possible! I have done in it at home with an Earthlink DSL
account. There are two scenarios you can have as outline below;


Scenario1: 

 
 Lan 2600(wic-1adsl card)--Internet 
 PPPOE client on the 2600

   This is known as PPPOEOA

 
 

 Scenario 2: 
 

   Lan eth1--2600--eth0-DSL modem(in bridge mode)internet
   PPPOE client on the 2600. 

 
This is known as PPPOEOE. 
 

 If you have a PPPOE client running on your PC (like winpoet) then the 2600
will run in bridging mode.  

  For best results use IOS version 12.2 with the IP PLUS feature set!



  Hope this helps,

  -Rizzo


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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 10:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Configuring 2600 series router for use with DSL [7:12643]

Hey all, anyone have any success in configuring a 2600 series router to
use a DSL connection that uses PPPoE?
   
  Is this possible?
   
 
 Thanks,
 
 
-C




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RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]

2001-07-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

My definition of Software Engineer is someone with an engineering degree and
also does software engineering. A Developer/Coder just write code base on
the engineering requirements and doesn't require a degree.

my two cents,

mark,


Well, I don't have a degree -- admittedly, more formal publications 
than many faculty -- and I'll match my network software engineering 
against anyone.  I freely admit that I probably have gone through a 
pretty good equivalent of a formal computer science curriculum by 
self-study.  Admittedly, it's been 10 years or so since I did 
significant coding -- but I still read code, write the requirements, 
and occasionally tell the developers where to modify the code.

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From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 1:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]


That's a scary thought: CCIEs who develop protocols. ;-]

I know very few respected protocol or platform designers that ever
mentioned having a CCIE.  On the other hand, it only occasionally
comes up that one has a PhD, which isn't always in a relevant
discipline.  I'm amused by the degree requirement--I could see an
argument for a master's or doctorate, but the undergraduate computer
science program gets into relatively little you need to know to
design and implement protocols, other than as a coder.

Personally, I'm a much better developer than I am a support person.
There's overlap between the skills of product/protocol design and
large network design, but much less with troubleshooting.

Even quality testing is a somewhat different skill set than
troubleshooting.  For example, has anyone seen a Cisco exam that
explored the differences among conformance, interoperability, and
performance testing?  The difference between a correct but boundary
condition event, a syntactically incorrect event, and an inopportune
event?


They are looking for software engineers. They aren't going to find many
that have a CCIE? It's a different skill set and requires a different type
of personality.

Priscilla

At 09:41 AM 7/18/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
Forgive me for sending this here, I know there's a place for job
discussions, but I noticed that there have been several e-mails about how
CCIE's now have a harder time getting jobs.

I received this e-mail (look at the message included after my signature)
on
another Cisco list I'm a member of:

Hth,

Ole

~~~
Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~
http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP
~~~
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:11:26 -
From: JDO 
Subject: Looking for a Special Kind of CCIE

Hello,

My name is Johnna Smith and I work for a placement firm in Dallas,
Texas. I am in desperate need of a CCIE that DEVELOPS routing
protocols. I need them to have BGP, DSPF, IS-IS, and MPLS. The must
be a software engineer and they must be degreed.

If any of you could help me, please give me a call or shoot me an
email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  or at
972-991-7569.

Just to take a look at someof our other positions please go to


We also work with another agency that focuese more on IT, you can
find their site at

Thanks

   Johnna




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Re: Networkers presentation links [7:13002]

2001-07-19 Thread John Neiberger

In other words, make sure you download them at work and print them off
on your boss' printer.  ;-)

That usually works very well for me.  heh heh

 Chuck Larrieu  7/19/01 1:55:06 PM 
I know these have been posted before, but in case you missed it:

http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw01/pres/index.html 

lots of big PDF files. you may want to download or view over higher
speed
connections.

enjoy

Chuck




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how to schedule a reload on 6509 switch ? [7:13017]

2001-07-19 Thread Jaspreet Bhatia

How to schedule a reload on 6509 switch  for a particular time ?




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Re: Large Collisions on Vlan1 [7:12961]

2001-07-19 Thread Kwame

The counters won't clear.  I used the ff command:

CLEAR COUNTERS VLAN1

I'm still seeing the same number of collisions on vlan1.  Here's my trunk
configuration.  What am I missing?

6509:interface fa2/10
no ip address
duplex full
switchport
switchport trunk encapsulation isl
switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,206,207,1002-1005
switchport mode trunk
!

2905:interface FastEthernet0/1
duplex full
speed 100
switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,206,207,1002-1005
switchport mode trunk
spanning-tree portfast
!

Hire, Ejay  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 You need to clear the counters and establish a time frame for this.  19
 million collisions isn't a lot in a well loaded switch that has been up
for
 a long time.

 If you clear the counters and the number increases quickly, you may have a
 speed or duplex issue or a bad cable.  You said this was an ISL trunk so
you
 should manually set both ends at 100 mbps
 (or 1000mbps if you've got the special card for the 2924 and a good port
on
 the 6500) and also manually set the link to full duplex.


 -Original Message-
 From: Kwame [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 12:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Large Collisions on Vlan1 [7:12961]


 What does it mean when the sh int vlan1 output shows large collisions?
For
 example on a 2924 XL with an ISL trunk to a 6509 I go the ff output upon
 issuing the SH INT VLAN1 command:

 0 output errors, 19108404 collisions, 0 interface resets




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