Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread nrf

""Brian""  wrote in message
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> Woah, all I was saying was that there are some scum out there that will
pass
> the written and claim to be CCIE.

Oh, OK.  Good, we're on the same page.

I have also seen situations where guys are more subtle about it, and  say
that they "have passed the CCIE exam", implying that they are fully-fledged
CCIE's, when what they actually passed was the written exam.  So what they
said is not technically a lie, but rather a tricky Clinton-esque parsing of
words (i.e. "I was not having sexual relations with her, she was having
sexual relations with me").And of course, it leaves them with a nice
'exit strategy', because  their CCIE claim is implied, but never explicitly
stated, so if they are later challenged, they just say that they never said
that they were full CCIE's, and they must have been misunderstood.

So what I see is that there is just too much opportunity for confusion and
fraud.  and the best thing to do is just not to make any mention of a
CCIE-written.  Either you're a CCIE or you're not, and any attempts to try
to come up with a "quasi-CCIE" status just opens the door to all kinds of
confusion and fraud.Now of course some of you might counter by saying
that fraudsters will just find another way, but hey, anything you can do to
make fraud harder is good.  Some crime will always exist in society, but
that doesn't mean you should stop trying to fight it.



> Bri
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "nrf"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]
>
>
> > ""Brian Whalen""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > If I put in the effort to pass the written, I'd have no problem
telling
> > > people that in an interview.  From the employer's perspective, if a
> > > candidate says I'm a CCIE, its up to the employer to ask him/her to
> prove
> > > it.
> >
> > Well, to me, it's all a matter of misrepresentation and fraud.  Saying
> that
> > you passed the written is one thing.  There's nothing wrong with that.
> But
> > listing such an accomplishment as a cert is something else.  The fact
is,
> > the written is not a cert, and people who try to claim that it is are
> > entering into a hazy ethical area.
> >
> > And, I'm sorry, but I must say that I do not agree with your last
> sentence.
> > I don't want to start a flame war, and yes, I concur that employers
should
> > most definitely check out  their candidates.  But if I read you
correctly,
> > you are implying that if a candidate claims to be a CCIE (but is
actually
> > not), then it is completely the employer's responsibilities to check
that
> > claim out, and the candidate has no culpability in the matter.
> >
> > Now, I'm not sure that's what you meant, but if it is, then why stop
> there?
> > To continue that logic, then it should be perfectly acceptable for
> > candidates to lie about their college degrees and their work experience
> too.
> > Why not?  In fact, why doesn't every job candidate just hand in a resume
> of
> > complete fiction?
> >
> > Now you might respond that any employer that just accepts the claims of
a
> > candidate without checking them out is basically asking to be screwed
> over.
> > Yes, of course that is true.  But on the other hand, to only blame the
> > employer is really a case of blaming the victim.  Yes, that employer is
> > stupid.  But that's not to say that the lying candidate bears no
> > responsibility in the matter.
> >
> > So the way I see it is, it all becomes a slippery slope - a question of
> > 'where do you draw the line?'.  If you choose to misrepresent yourself
in
> > one part of your resume to get a job, then why not misrepresent yourself
> in
> > every area?   To me, it's pretty black-and-white.  Either your resume is
> the
> > truth, or it isn't.




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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread Brian

Woah, all I was saying was that there are some scum out there that will pass
the written and claim to be CCIE.

Bri

- Original Message -
From: "nrf" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]


> ""Brian Whalen""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > If I put in the effort to pass the written, I'd have no problem telling
> > people that in an interview.  From the employer's perspective, if a
> > candidate says I'm a CCIE, its up to the employer to ask him/her to
prove
> > it.
>
> Well, to me, it's all a matter of misrepresentation and fraud.  Saying
that
> you passed the written is one thing.  There's nothing wrong with that.
But
> listing such an accomplishment as a cert is something else.  The fact is,
> the written is not a cert, and people who try to claim that it is are
> entering into a hazy ethical area.
>
> And, I'm sorry, but I must say that I do not agree with your last
sentence.
> I don't want to start a flame war, and yes, I concur that employers should
> most definitely check out  their candidates.  But if I read you correctly,
> you are implying that if a candidate claims to be a CCIE (but is actually
> not), then it is completely the employer's responsibilities to check that
> claim out, and the candidate has no culpability in the matter.
>
> Now, I'm not sure that's what you meant, but if it is, then why stop
there?
> To continue that logic, then it should be perfectly acceptable for
> candidates to lie about their college degrees and their work experience
too.
> Why not?  In fact, why doesn't every job candidate just hand in a resume
of
> complete fiction?
>
> Now you might respond that any employer that just accepts the claims of a
> candidate without checking them out is basically asking to be screwed
over.
> Yes, of course that is true.  But on the other hand, to only blame the
> employer is really a case of blaming the victim.  Yes, that employer is
> stupid.  But that's not to say that the lying candidate bears no
> responsibility in the matter.
>
> So the way I see it is, it all becomes a slippery slope - a question of
> 'where do you draw the line?'.  If you choose to misrepresent yourself in
> one part of your resume to get a job, then why not misrepresent yourself
in
> every area?   To me, it's pretty black-and-white.  Either your resume is
the
> truth, or it isn't.




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memory issue on pre rev 1.6 cat5 sup [7:23752]

2001-10-21 Thread marcus jensen

I remember reading an older post here about a certain memory issue on older
supI cards with hardware revision 1.6 or older. Something about needing a
special HC or something dram upgrade. I found the article on CCO specifying
the problem. Does anyone know where I can get this special memory?

Thanks,Marcus


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IP Tunnel on different port? [7:23750]

2001-10-21 Thread Johan Hjalmarsson

Hi,
I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to create some sort of IP tunnel
on a port of my choice.
My problem is that I'm behind a firewall beyond my administration and I want
to create a connection between my homesite and my protected lab environment
inside the FW.
The firewall is open only for ftp & http so i'd like to create the tunnel
using for example TCP 21.
Is this possible?

Thanks
Johan


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Re: Intervlan Connectivity is not working? [7:23744]

2001-10-21 Thread Jonathan Hays

Comments in line.

Washington Rico wrote:

> Cisco People I need you help...
>
> I would appreciate any help.  I have a 6500Cat running Redundant Supervisor
> engines and two MSFC installed one on each supervisor engine.
> *
> Mod Slot Ports Module-Type   Model   Sub Status
> ---  - - --- --- 
> 1   12 1000BaseX Supervisor  WS-X6K-SUP2-2GE yes ok
> 15  11 Multilayer Switch Feature WS-F6K-MSFC2no  ok
> 2   22 1000BaseX Supervisor  WS-X6K-SUP2-2GE yes standby
> 16  21 Multilayer Switch Feature WS-F6K-MSFC2no  ok
> 3   38 1000BaseX EthernetWS-X6408A-GBIC  no  ok
> 4   48 1000BaseX EthernetWS-X6408A-GBIC  no  ok
> 6   64810/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X6348-RJ-45  no  ok
> 7   74810/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X6348-RJ-45  no  ok
> 8   84810/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X6348-RJ-45  no  ok
> 9   94810/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X6348-RJ-45  no  ok
> *
>
> I created one vlan (Vlan 20) and I want to use HSRP across the MSFC so the
> clients can have a steady Gateway.
>
> Default vlan 1 works fine, I can ping accross to the other MSFC.  But
> Vlan20 the one I created on the switch does give me connectivity accoss
> MFSC.

I assume here you really mean "does NOT give me connectivity.." , right? Did
it work
before you added HSRP commands?

Try removing the HSRP config and just work on simple connectivity from
router to router
(MSFC to MSFC) on Vlan 20.

>
> MSFC#1
> interface Vlan20
>  ip address 10.224.173.3 255.255.255.0
>  no ip redirects
>  ip route-cache flow
>  standby priority 80 preempt
>  standby authentication 
>  standby ip 10.224.173.1
> MSFC#2
> interface Vlan20
>  mac-address 0012.3456.7891
>  ip address 10.224.173.2 255.255.255.0
>  no ip redirects
>  ip route-cache flow
>  standby priority 90 preempt
>  standby authentication 
>  standby ip 10.224.173.1

Don't omit the group number, although the documentation says it is optional.
I have had
the experience where omitting it causes problems in some versions of IOS.
Also, if you
go to a multi-HSRP config it makes things clearer.

 standby 1 priority 90 preempt
 standby 1 ip 10.224.173.1

Remove the authentication until you get HSRP working - it's another unneeded
variable at
this stage.

Take a look at the output of  the "show standby" command.

Look at your routing table - "show ip route".

Look at your ARP cache - "show arp".

>
> 
> Test-6500-MSFC2#ping 10.224.173.1

Looks like you are pinging the HSRP virtual IP address from one of the MSFC
routers.
Well, this ought to work but you really should be doing your pinging from a
workstation
plugged into Vlan 20, which is what HSRP is meant for

Back up a step and find out if the problem is with IP connectivity or with
the HSRP
config.

Can you ping the real IP address from each MSFC? That is, can you ping MSFC2
(10.224.173.2) from MSFC1?

>
>
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.224.173.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
> .
> Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
> Test-6500-MSFC2#
> --
> **
> On the switch trunks shows this...
>
> Test-6500> (enable) show trunk
> * - indicates vtp domain mismatch
> Port  Mode Encapsulation  StatusNative vlan
>   ---  -    ---
> 15/1  nonegotiate  isltrunking  1
> 16/1  nonegotiate  isltrunking  1
>
> Port  Vlans allowed on trunk
> 
> -
> 15/1  1-1005,1025-4094
> 16/1  1-1005,1025-4094
>
> Port  Vlans allowed and active in management domain
> 
> -
> 15/1  1   (enable)
>
> **
> Show Vlan
> VLAN Name StatusIfIndex Mod/Ports, Vlans
>   - ---
> 
> 1default  active199 1/1-2
> 2/1-2
> 20   TEST-VLANactive208
> 30   VLAN30   active207
> 999  Dead-Vlanactive225 3/1-8
> 4/1-8
> 6/1-48
> 7/1-48
> 8/1-48
> 9/1-48
> 1002 fddi-default active200
> 1003 token-ring-default   active203
> 1004 fddinet-default  active201
> 1005 trnet-defaultactive202
> ***

Re: CAT 2948G (L2) vs. CAT3548-XL [7:23563]

2001-10-21 Thread td

>From the data connectivity, they both are the same (2948 or 3548).  You use
the Gig uplink to interconnect between the switches. Cluster technology
(3548) is only used for the management of the switches (You can define one
IP address to the whole cluster (spanning multiple switches)  in case of the
3548.  In case of 2948 , you will have to define one ip address per switch.)
As far as end of life, I have not heard anything on the 2948G.  The one that
reaches end of life is the 2900XL fixed configuration.  This one is totally
different from the 2948G.
Cheers,
TD

""Thomas""  wrote in message
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> Yes, 3524-PWR support in-line power for IP phone; but it is the only model
> with in-line power.
>
> For 3500XL and 2900XL, they run on IOS, which is similar to that on
routers.
> They also have QoS features for VoIP, etc...  I wonder if I can implement
> these QoS features on CATOS of 2948G for VoIP?
>
> 2948G doesn't support cluster; but with the 2 Giga uplink ports, should I
be
> able to stack them together just like 3548s?
>
> Does 2948G become "End of Life" or "End of Support" soon?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> ""td""  wrote in message
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> > Hi,
> > I have bought them both and their is fine line between them.  The 2948G
is
> a
> > CAT based os where is the 3548XL is an IOS based.
> > This is how I use them:
> > 1.  For the closet:  I used the 3548/3524xl and cascading them together
> > 2.  For small, medium servers I used the 2948G (DMZ ...)
> > 3.  For server farm I used 6509
> >
> > Personnaly, I like the 2948G better.  The only reason the I used 3548
> > because it is cascadable and can be managed as a cluster. But it turns
out
> > it has its own complexity when you need to replace a bad one in the
chain.
> > Another thing on the 3548G is that eventhough it supports more than 200
> > vlans; this is only in the case of transparent configuration.  If you do
> > client/server, it support upto 64 VLANs then It will switch to
transparent
> > if more VLAN is defined.  The 35xx however, has a model that support
> inline
> > power for IP phone if you ever have a need for it.  I think the model is
> > 35xx-pwr
> >
> > With the new 2980G, it looks more and more attractive for the CAT based
> > system.  I 'm seriouly looking at the 2980G currently.  Note that the
2948
> > and 2980G use the chipset of the 4000 series switches.
> >
> > Hope this help.
> > Cheers,
> > TD
> >
> > ""Thomas""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I saw an ads with Cisco CAT 2948G Layer 2 switch that has a price
almost
> > the
> > > same as the Cisco CAT 3548-EN-XL.  Based on the discription, It seems
> that
> > > the 2948G running CATOS, while 3548s running IOS.  Also, 2948G has a
> > better
> > > speed of up to 24Gbps whereas the 3548s only up to 10.8Gbps.  Assuming
> > they
> > > both are at the same price, which should I choose? I am also
considering
> > the
> > > QoS on the switch to support VoIP.  Does 2948G support the same
features
> > as
> > > 3548XL as well?  We are using many of 3548s at the HQ and like to buy
> > Cisco
> > > CAT for remote offices.  Also, Is 2948G in "End of Life" or "End of
> > > Support"?  Cisco just came out a new 2980G that is same as 2948G but
has
> > 80
> > > 10/100 ports.
> > >
> > > Thomas N.




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ECP2 class [7:23747]

2001-10-21 Thread zapeta zape

Hello guys,
did anyone has a chance to take the ECP2 mentor tech class?
Regards
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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread nrf

Uh, what exactly is the JCIE?








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> Soon we will see
>
> John Doe
> Studying for CCNA,CCNP,CCIE,JCIE,MSCE(ALL),NET+,CNE
>
> > Of course "CCIE Written" isn't a certification, no matter how many
people
> > put it after their name.
> >
> >
> > ""Hello Hello""  wrote in message
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> > > ccie r catching up with ...mcse now
> > >
> >
>
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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

Soon we will see

John Doe
Studying for CCNA,CCNP,CCIE,JCIE,MSCE(ALL),NET+,CNE

> Of course "CCIE Written" isn't a certification, no matter how many people
> put it after their name.
>
>
> ""Hello Hello""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > ccie r catching up with ...mcse now
> >
>
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> xa4O3aKi^1@.ee8464a/114!viewtype=threadDate&skip=&expand=




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Intervlan Connectivity is not working? [7:23744]

2001-10-21 Thread Washington Rico

Cisco People I need you help...

I would appreciate any help.  I have a 6500Cat running Redundant Supervisor 
engines and two MSFC installed one on each supervisor engine.
*
Mod Slot Ports Module-Type   Model   Sub Status
---  - - --- --- 
1   12 1000BaseX Supervisor  WS-X6K-SUP2-2GE yes ok
15  11 Multilayer Switch Feature WS-F6K-MSFC2no  ok
2   22 1000BaseX Supervisor  WS-X6K-SUP2-2GE yes standby
16  21 Multilayer Switch Feature WS-F6K-MSFC2no  ok
3   38 1000BaseX EthernetWS-X6408A-GBIC  no  ok
4   48 1000BaseX EthernetWS-X6408A-GBIC  no  ok
6   64810/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X6348-RJ-45  no  ok
7   74810/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X6348-RJ-45  no  ok
8   84810/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X6348-RJ-45  no  ok
9   94810/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X6348-RJ-45  no  ok
*

I created one vlan (Vlan 20) and I want to use HSRP across the MSFC so the 
clients can have a steady Gateway.

Default vlan 1 works fine, I can ping accross to the other MSFC.  But 
Vlan20 the one I created on the switch does give me connectivity accoss 
MFSC. 
MSFC#1 
interface Vlan20
 ip address 10.224.173.3 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 ip route-cache flow
 standby priority 80 preempt
 standby authentication 
 standby ip 10.224.173.1  
MSFC#2
interface Vlan20
 mac-address 0012.3456.7891
 ip address 10.224.173.2 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 ip route-cache flow
 standby priority 90 preempt
 standby authentication 
 standby ip 10.224.173.1

Test-6500-MSFC2#ping 10.224.173.1

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.224.173.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
.
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
Test-6500-MSFC2#
--
**
On the switch trunks shows this...

Test-6500> (enable) show trunk
* - indicates vtp domain mismatch
Port  Mode Encapsulation  StatusNative vlan
  ---  -    ---
15/1  nonegotiate  isltrunking  1
16/1  nonegotiate  isltrunking  1

Port  Vlans allowed on trunk
  
-
15/1  1-1005,1025-4094
16/1  1-1005,1025-4094

Port  Vlans allowed and active in management domain
  
-
15/1  1   (enable)

**
Show Vlan
VLAN Name StatusIfIndex Mod/Ports, Vlans
  - --- 

1default  active199 1/1-2
2/1-2
20   TEST-VLANactive208
30   VLAN30   active207
999  Dead-Vlanactive225 3/1-8
4/1-8
6/1-48
7/1-48
8/1-48
9/1-48
1002 fddi-default active200
1003 token-ring-default   active203
1004 fddinet-default  active201
1005 trnet-defaultactive202
***

Question 1.-
Why isn't vlan 20 and 30 and 999 in the Management domain? (Above Show 
trunk command)
Question 2.-
Becuase Vlan 20 and 30 aren't in the Management domain, Is this the reason 
why I am getting no Msfc connectivity for those Vlans..


Sorry for the long letter, appreciate any info you have..

Regards,
Eric 



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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23860]

2001-10-21 Thread Tim Booth

> It's fine to have a healthy opinion of Cisco vs Microsoft accreditations
but
> I do think you are severely underestimating the new Microsoft exams.

  The new Microsoft exams are a joke. They do NOT test your knowledge on
Microsoft products. They're absolutely terrible tests IMO. Certainly they
don't test your ability to do anything constructive, and certainly don't
compare to Cisco exams much less the IE lab for how much they actually test
useful knowledge.

Kind Regards,
Tim Booth




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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread Patrick Bass

Of course "CCIE Written" isn't a certification, no matter how many people
put it after their name.


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Re: CCIE Study Materials for Sale [7:23597]

2001-10-21 Thread Mustafa Makhdoom

I would like to purchase the ECP-1 and 2 materials. WHat's your price?




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sale.
> Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to negotiate price and make
purchase
> arrangements.  1st come first served.
>
>
>
> Courses through Mentor Technologies:
>
> ECP-1 and ECP-2
>
>
>
> VLabs through Mentor Labs
>
> http://www.mentorlabs.com/vlab/access
>
> 2100. Implementing MD5 Authentication in OSPF
> 3040. Inside of IS-IS IP Routing
> 3410. Build your own voice lab with three Cisco MC3810 multiservice
routers
> (concentrators).
> 3070. RIP to EIGRP Migration
> 3080. ISDN with EIGRP Configuration
> 4030. BGP Transit AS with OSPF, IGRP, and RIP Redistribution
> 4040. BGP Policy Routing: Internet Connection with Two ISPs Lab
> 4060. ECP 1 : Interconnecting IGP Environments Across Frame Relay Networks
> 3140. Troubleshooting OSPF and RIP Across a Frame Relay Network
> 4090. IRB with OSPF and LAT Translation over Frame-Relay
> 2225. X.25 to TCP Translation with ISDN access.
> 3606. Configuring a Dedicated VPN Using a Tunnel and Data Encryption.
> 3619. Advanced BGP Configuration.
> 4141. CCIE Preparation Lab - Advanced Multiprotocol Routing
> 3643. BSCN: Multihome BGP (lab 9)
>
>
>
> Cisco Press Books:
>
> Internetworking Technologies Handbook -2nd edition
>
> Designing Campus Networks
>
> Internet Routing Architectures -1st edition
>
> Cisco IOS 12.0 Network Security
>
> Routing TCPIP -vol1
>
> Routing TCPIP -vol2
>
> Interconnecting Cisco Network Devices
>
> Cisco CCIE Fundamentals Network Design and Case Studies
>
> Integrating Voice and Data Networks
>
> Cisco Internetwork Troubleshooting
>
> Building Scaleable Cisco Networks
>
> Advanced Cisco Router Configuration
>
> Cisco LAN Switching
>
> Enhanced IP Services for Cisco Networks
>
> Top Down Network Design
>
> Cisco Internetwork Design
>
> Introduction to Cisco Router Configuration
>
> Internetworking Troubleshooting Handbook
>
> Cisco BGP-4 Command and Configuration Handbook
>
>
>
> MCGRAW HILL BOOKS:
>
> Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide-2nd edition
>
> All in One CCIE Lab Practice Kit
>
> Cisco Certification (Bridges, Routers, and Switches for Cisco)
>
> Advanced IP Routing in Cisco Networks
>
> Cisco TCPIP Routing




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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread Kevin Wigle

Old news (10 Oct) and I'll still give that fiver if you make MCSE in 6
weeks.

And I'm not pleased with that decision because I did the 7 W2K exams
including 2 design exams and I got my Gold card because as a contractor I
thought it important to keep current.  (even though I'm running XP right now
waiting for the .NET stuff)

But 5 exams at 2 weeks an exam is still 10 weeks.  Now you have not
mentioned how many Microsoft exams you have sat so I don't know where you're
coming from.  But just one W2K design exam (you need at least one) will
sober you up.

My point is - until you've done them you're pretty cocky to downplay them.
It's always easy to make statements about how easy something is ( or allude
to it with 6 weeks to complete the entire track ) but quite another to show
the initials.

Show me the initials.

Kevin Wigle
CCDP CCNP CSE MCSE (2000, 4.0, 3.51) CBE CBI

see . I put the Cisco ones first!  I am a Cisco bigot but I
respect other certs out there too


- Original Message -
From: "nrf" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, 21 October, 2001 22:36
Subject: Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]


> ""Kevin Wigle""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > and two penneth won't get you a MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks.  I'll raise that
to
> a
> > fiver if you can.
> >
> > I recently undertook and completed MCSE 2000, this after having MCSE 4.0
> and
> > 3.51 which is to say that I've been "aware" of Microsoft products for
some
> > time.
> >
> > I took 7 exams because I didn't want to try and sit the 4 hour make up
> exam
> > even though I qualified to take it.
>
>
> I see that Microsoft has (again) changed its W2k mcse policies.  Now the
old
> NT4 electives now count as w2k electives.  Which means that you could have
> gotten by with only 5 exams (and carried 2 of your older electives from
> NT4).   You can see it here, and see how W2k is now accepting things like
> IIS4 and TCP/IP:
>
http://www.microsoft.com/trainingandservices/default.asp?PageID=mcp&PageCall
> =requirements&SubSite=cert/mcse&AnnMenu=mcse
>
> It's nice that Microsoft has made the W2k exams, especially the design
> exams, harder.  But that doesn't do a whole lot of good if people don't
have
> to go through a lot of those w2k exams.  Consider this.  Somebody who is
> already NT4 certified could get the 2k MCSE with only two more exams -
that
> accelerated make-up exam, and one design exam.  That's really not that
many.
>
>
>
> >
> > One week studying from books, one week to do Transcender for each exam
> > translates into 14 weeks.
> >
> > However, everyone thinks I was nuts and I didn't have a life in those 14
> > weeks, every night and weekend was studying.
> >
> > I have enough Cisco initials to be "aware" of the Cisco curriculum and I
> > would be among those who would say that there is no comparing MCSE to
CCNP
> > (or CCDP).
> >
> > But, the new W2K exams are not like the old NT exams.  The "Design"
exams
> > though not really testing putting circuits together are still long hard
> > tests that challenge your ability to see the issues and determine an
> > appropriate solution based on the given requirements and conditions.
> >
> > All this to say - if you pass MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks (with odd breaks in
> > between) with no previous Microsoft exams behind you -  you will
> accomplish
> > something that few if any others have that's why out of 400,000 plus
MCSEs
> > worldwide, only 47,000 have re-qualified to date.  I suggest you visit
> > http://www.examcram.com and read the exam reviews by Orin. (especially
> 216)
> >
> > It's fine to have a healthy opinion of Cisco vs Microsoft accreditations
> but
> > I do think you are severely underestimating the new Microsoft exams.
> >
> > Kevin Wigle
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Gareth Hinton"
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October, 2001 12:42
> > Subject: Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]
> >
> >
> > > "ccie r catching up with ...mcse now"
> > >
> > >
> > > That's a bit of a wild inaccurate statement.
> > >
> > > I reckon after doing my CCNP it wouldn't take too long to get past the
> > CCIE
> > > written with 4 to 6 weeks good study.
> > > I reckon the CCIE Lab could take me a year or more of hard work to get
> > > anywhere near it, if ever.
> > > I am looking at the doing the MCSE to broaden the knowledge a little.
> > > Looking through the syllabus I am looking at around 6 weeks of study
> with
> > > odd breaks in between.
> > >
> > > MCSE and CCIE will never be comparable.
> > > It amuses me when people do compare them.
> > > I think "CCIE written" is a little misleading - As far as I'm
concerned
> > its
> > > a fairly testing written exam to stop time wasters taking what is the
> real
> > > CCIE exam - The LAB.
> > >
> > >
> > > My two penneth...
> > >
> > >
> > > Gaz




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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread nrf

""Kevin Wigle""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> and two penneth won't get you a MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks.  I'll raise that to
a
> fiver if you can.
>
> I recently undertook and completed MCSE 2000, this after having MCSE 4.0
and
> 3.51 which is to say that I've been "aware" of Microsoft products for some
> time.
>
> I took 7 exams because I didn't want to try and sit the 4 hour make up
exam
> even though I qualified to take it.


I see that Microsoft has (again) changed its W2k mcse policies.  Now the old
NT4 electives now count as w2k electives.  Which means that you could have
gotten by with only 5 exams (and carried 2 of your older electives from
NT4).   You can see it here, and see how W2k is now accepting things like
IIS4 and TCP/IP:
http://www.microsoft.com/trainingandservices/default.asp?PageID=mcp&PageCall
=requirements&SubSite=cert/mcse&AnnMenu=mcse

It's nice that Microsoft has made the W2k exams, especially the design
exams, harder.  But that doesn't do a whole lot of good if people don't have
to go through a lot of those w2k exams.  Consider this.  Somebody who is
already NT4 certified could get the 2k MCSE with only two more exams - that
accelerated make-up exam, and one design exam.  That's really not that many.



>
> One week studying from books, one week to do Transcender for each exam
> translates into 14 weeks.
>
> However, everyone thinks I was nuts and I didn't have a life in those 14
> weeks, every night and weekend was studying.
>
> I have enough Cisco initials to be "aware" of the Cisco curriculum and I
> would be among those who would say that there is no comparing MCSE to CCNP
> (or CCDP).
>
> But, the new W2K exams are not like the old NT exams.  The "Design" exams
> though not really testing putting circuits together are still long hard
> tests that challenge your ability to see the issues and determine an
> appropriate solution based on the given requirements and conditions.
>
> All this to say - if you pass MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks (with odd breaks in
> between) with no previous Microsoft exams behind you -  you will
accomplish
> something that few if any others have that's why out of 400,000 plus MCSEs
> worldwide, only 47,000 have re-qualified to date.  I suggest you visit
> http://www.examcram.com and read the exam reviews by Orin. (especially
216)
>
> It's fine to have a healthy opinion of Cisco vs Microsoft accreditations
but
> I do think you are severely underestimating the new Microsoft exams.
>
> Kevin Wigle
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gareth Hinton"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, 21 October, 2001 12:42
> Subject: Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]
>
>
> > "ccie r catching up with ...mcse now"
> >
> >
> > That's a bit of a wild inaccurate statement.
> >
> > I reckon after doing my CCNP it wouldn't take too long to get past the
> CCIE
> > written with 4 to 6 weeks good study.
> > I reckon the CCIE Lab could take me a year or more of hard work to get
> > anywhere near it, if ever.
> > I am looking at the doing the MCSE to broaden the knowledge a little.
> > Looking through the syllabus I am looking at around 6 weeks of study
with
> > odd breaks in between.
> >
> > MCSE and CCIE will never be comparable.
> > It amuses me when people do compare them.
> > I think "CCIE written" is a little misleading - As far as I'm concerned
> its
> > a fairly testing written exam to stop time wasters taking what is the
real
> > CCIE exam - The LAB.
> >
> >
> > My two penneth...
> >
> >
> > Gaz




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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread nrf

""Brian Whalen""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> If I put in the effort to pass the written, I'd have no problem telling
> people that in an interview.  From the employer's perspective, if a
> candidate says I'm a CCIE, its up to the employer to ask him/her to prove
> it.

Well, to me, it's all a matter of misrepresentation and fraud.  Saying that
you passed the written is one thing.  There's nothing wrong with that.  But
listing such an accomplishment as a cert is something else.  The fact is,
the written is not a cert, and people who try to claim that it is are
entering into a hazy ethical area.

And, I'm sorry, but I must say that I do not agree with your last sentence.
I don't want to start a flame war, and yes, I concur that employers should
most definitely check out  their candidates.  But if I read you correctly,
you are implying that if a candidate claims to be a CCIE (but is actually
not), then it is completely the employer's responsibilities to check that
claim out, and the candidate has no culpability in the matter.

Now, I'm not sure that's what you meant, but if it is, then why stop there?
To continue that logic, then it should be perfectly acceptable for
candidates to lie about their college degrees and their work experience too.
Why not?  In fact, why doesn't every job candidate just hand in a resume of
complete fiction?

Now you might respond that any employer that just accepts the claims of a
candidate without checking them out is basically asking to be screwed over.
Yes, of course that is true.  But on the other hand, to only blame the
employer is really a case of blaming the victim.  Yes, that employer is
stupid.  But that's not to say that the lying candidate bears no
responsibility in the matter.

So the way I see it is, it all becomes a slippery slope - a question of
'where do you draw the line?'.  If you choose to misrepresent yourself in
one part of your resume to get a job, then why not misrepresent yourself in
every area?   To me, it's pretty black-and-white.  Either your resume is the
truth, or it isn't.




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Big Project & we need CCIE's to do it. [7:23735]

2001-10-21 Thread Ulysses Pacheco

Hi. My name is Ulysses and I work for Transparent Technology. We have a
large project that will be taking place in the northeast, and we need CCIE's
with Cisco telephony certification. Please contact us with your contact info
if you are interested.



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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread Brian Whalen

If I put in the effort to pass the written, I'd have no problem telling
people that in an interview.  From the employer's perspective, if a
candidate says I'm a CCIE, its up to the employer to ask him/her to prove
it.

Brian "Sonic" Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, nrf wrote:

> I've never understood why Cisco can't just make the written harder, much
> harder.  For example, they could just put the pass percentage at 95% or 98%
> or something, and/or they could stipulate that if you could only attempt
the
> written a certain number of times per year.   Not only would that get rid
of
> this glut of "CCIE-written-certified" guys (OK, I know, such a cert doesn't
> exist, but everybody here knows  people who call themselves CCIE-written
> certified), but it would also have the nice side benefit of seriously
> cutting down on the lab wait time.
>
>
>
>
>
> ""Ken Diliberto""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am participating in a study group at Cisco here in the Dallas area.
> Even
> > the Cisco Engineers in the group are there for their own edification to
> help
> > them pass.  I know if I had access to the lab equipment all the time like
> > they
> > do, I would be feeling fairly confident.  I haven't even attempted the
> > written
> > yet but I have years worth of router time in a production environment.
> The
> > number of CCIEs get depressing if you look at them for too long.  Just
> keep
> > looking at dice.com, hotjobs.com and such for jobs requiring a CCIE.
> Keeps
> > me
> > interested.  :-)
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > >>> "Thomas Larus"  10/21/01 10:52AM >>>
> > I wouldn't worry too much about the raw numbers.  A lot of these supposed
> > 1700 a month are VERY good at memorization, and have not touched routers
> and
> > switches for more than 10 or 12 hours altogether.  I have trouble
> believing
> > the number is quite that high, because the lab dates do not seem to be
> > getting booked up anywhere near that fast.  People haven't a prayer of
> > passing the CCIE Lab until they get many hundreds or perhaps a thousand
or
> > two thousand hours of work configuring routers and switches.
> >
> > It is a long road, and I am still a long way from getting to the CCIE Lab
> > milestone myself, but the journey itself is very satisfying.
> >
> > Thomas Larus
> >
> > ""Hello Hello""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > ccie r catching up with ...mcse now
> > >
> >
>
http://searchnetworking.discussions.techtarget.com/WebX?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > xa4O3aKi^1@.ee8464a/114!viewtype=threadDate&skip=&expand=




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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread Kevin Wigle

and two penneth won't get you a MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks.  I'll raise that to a
fiver if you can.

I recently undertook and completed MCSE 2000, this after having MCSE 4.0 and
3.51 which is to say that I've been "aware" of Microsoft products for some
time.

I took 7 exams because I didn't want to try and sit the 4 hour make up exam
even though I qualified to take it.

One week studying from books, one week to do Transcender for each exam
translates into 14 weeks.

However, everyone thinks I was nuts and I didn't have a life in those 14
weeks, every night and weekend was studying.

I have enough Cisco initials to be "aware" of the Cisco curriculum and I
would be among those who would say that there is no comparing MCSE to CCNP
(or CCDP).

But, the new W2K exams are not like the old NT exams.  The "Design" exams
though not really testing putting circuits together are still long hard
tests that challenge your ability to see the issues and determine an
appropriate solution based on the given requirements and conditions.

All this to say - if you pass MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks (with odd breaks in
between) with no previous Microsoft exams behind you -  you will accomplish
something that few if any others have that's why out of 400,000 plus MCSEs
worldwide, only 47,000 have re-qualified to date.  I suggest you visit
http://www.examcram.com and read the exam reviews by Orin. (especially 216)

It's fine to have a healthy opinion of Cisco vs Microsoft accreditations but
I do think you are severely underestimating the new Microsoft exams.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Gareth Hinton" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, 21 October, 2001 12:42
Subject: Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]


> "ccie r catching up with ...mcse now"
>
>
> That's a bit of a wild inaccurate statement.
>
> I reckon after doing my CCNP it wouldn't take too long to get past the
CCIE
> written with 4 to 6 weeks good study.
> I reckon the CCIE Lab could take me a year or more of hard work to get
> anywhere near it, if ever.
> I am looking at the doing the MCSE to broaden the knowledge a little.
> Looking through the syllabus I am looking at around 6 weeks of study with
> odd breaks in between.
>
> MCSE and CCIE will never be comparable.
> It amuses me when people do compare them.
> I think "CCIE written" is a little misleading - As far as I'm concerned
its
> a fairly testing written exam to stop time wasters taking what is the real
> CCIE exam - The LAB.
>
>
> My two penneth...
>
>
> Gaz




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BSCN Route Redistribution [7:23732]

2001-10-21 Thread Jesse Loggins

When configuring route redistribution you are able to set a default metric
that will apply to all routes redistributed into a particular protocol. In
the case of EIGRP there are parameters that must be set, these are
bandwidth, delay, reliability, load, mtu. Although I understand these
parameters and what they are where do you get these real world values? I
understand that bandwidth is the minimum bandwidth of the route, but values
like delay. Where are those values derived? In the Cisco Press BSCN book and
also various others to include Sybex, they discuss these parameters but
never mention where and how they are derived. I don't mean what is delay I
know what that is, but how would an engineer determine what delay of a route
or link is in a working environment. Or are these numbers in the book
plucked from thin air.



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DLSW circuit and 3920 Mystery? [7:23731]

2001-10-21 Thread Frank B

This may be one of those where I've overlooked something small (hope so
anyway) but can any one out there explain this issue:

router configued as in the below example...

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/701/45.html#3

I have a workstation on each end, one on the token-ring and one on the
ethernet.  The kicker, on the TR end I have the workstation and TR interface
into a 3920 switch.  When I set up the switch with a TrBrf and TrCrf of my
own (where TrBrf=DLSW source Bridge # and TrCrf=ring#)  I could not get the
dlsw circuits up.

All MACs and NetBIOS names showed up under show DLSW reachability but
circuits wouldn't establish.  That is...until I placed both the router TR
interface AND the workstation into switch ports assigned to the default
bridge and concentrator functions.  Then all worked as expected. ???

So,  if you know the why/why not's of this problem please post your response
soonest.  I'd greatly appreciate your assistance.  Thanks in advance and
aloha,  Frank




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Re: Cisco equipment available at good prices [7:23574]

2001-10-21 Thread James Wilson

Michael - please send me the list of prices...

Michael Paulson wrote:
> 
> I am a network consultant working with a large financial firm.  They
> just foreclosed on a Web hosting facility.  The facility had quite a bit
> of Cisco gear.  Most of the gear is between 6 and 12 months old.  It is
> available at really good prices.   I thought some people in this group
> may be interested.
> 
> I have  Summarized the Gear below.
> If anyone is interested just email me and I will send details and
> pricing.
> 
> Mike Paulson
> Network Engineer
> Infrastructure Design Systems LLP
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Quantity
>   32620 routers,
>   1 3640 routers
>   3  7206 VXR routers
>   12924 switch
>   223548 switches
>   1 2948G switch
> 106509 switches with many cards
> 400 Short haul GBICs
> a few long haul GBICs
> 
> Content Switch servers.
> CSS-11154-AC
> CSS-11801-AC
> 
> [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name
> of michael.paulson.vcf]
-- 
James D. Wilson, CCDA, MCP
Sr. Network/Security Engineer
"non sunt multiplicanda entia praeter necessitatem"
William of Ockham (1285-1347/49)




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RE: Queston about Aironet !!! [7:23691]

2001-10-21 Thread Ryan Ngai Hon Kong

Steven,

1) Distance/weather/LOS affect your transmission rate. Find out the exact
rate
   in distance against the losses at 
   http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/witc/ao340ap/prodlit/obrc_in.xls

2) Typically 90m @ open environment @ 11Mbps or 400m/open/1Mbps

3) Yes if multicast is turned on

4) That is system integration, question is what to integrate?

5) Good quality signal doesn't give good distance nor vice-versa.

I bet all the answer is on the URL. Why can't you just do a keyword
search?

Ryan


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Queston about Aironet !!! [7:23691]


Hi Folks,

Question :

1. What is the transmision rate in Mbs againts distance, meaning that if you
are the only user on the AP will the data transfer rate degrade when you are
getting far away from the AP.
2. What is the max distance from AP to workstation.
3. If your server is runing DHCP, AP set to be static, will the cleint be
able
to get dynamic IP.
4. Is there any integration between the Aironet systems with the barcode
wireless systems which is also Aironet(2Mbps).
5. How to explain on the Beacon receive show on the Aironet program when we
perform signal strength monitoring. Which the signal strength degrade
againts
distance and the beacon tend to be on 100%.

Looking forward for your reply

Thanks
Steiven




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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread nrf

I've never understood why Cisco can't just make the written harder, much
harder.  For example, they could just put the pass percentage at 95% or 98%
or something, and/or they could stipulate that if you could only attempt the
written a certain number of times per year.   Not only would that get rid of
this glut of "CCIE-written-certified" guys (OK, I know, such a cert doesn't
exist, but everybody here knows  people who call themselves CCIE-written
certified), but it would also have the nice side benefit of seriously
cutting down on the lab wait time.





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> I am participating in a study group at Cisco here in the Dallas area.
Even
> the Cisco Engineers in the group are there for their own edification to
help
> them pass.  I know if I had access to the lab equipment all the time like
> they
> do, I would be feeling fairly confident.  I haven't even attempted the
> written
> yet but I have years worth of router time in a production environment.
The
> number of CCIEs get depressing if you look at them for too long.  Just
keep
> looking at dice.com, hotjobs.com and such for jobs requiring a CCIE.
Keeps
> me
> interested.  :-)
>
> Ken
>
> >>> "Thomas Larus"  10/21/01 10:52AM >>>
> I wouldn't worry too much about the raw numbers.  A lot of these supposed
> 1700 a month are VERY good at memorization, and have not touched routers
and
> switches for more than 10 or 12 hours altogether.  I have trouble
believing
> the number is quite that high, because the lab dates do not seem to be
> getting booked up anywhere near that fast.  People haven't a prayer of
> passing the CCIE Lab until they get many hundreds or perhaps a thousand or
> two thousand hours of work configuring routers and switches.
>
> It is a long road, and I am still a long way from getting to the CCIE Lab
> milestone myself, but the journey itself is very satisfying.
>
> Thomas Larus
>
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RE: aironet 340 question [7:23548]

2001-10-21 Thread Ryan Ngai Hon Kong

Look at the link speed in your bridge (was it BR340 or WGB340?).
Main difference on 19xx and 29xx was the density, force your bridge
to match the speed of the link rather than use auto. Make sense to me
all the time.  :)

Ryan

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I've used these bridges quite a bit, and connected the ether ports of them
into our Cat switches, nothing lower than a 2900.  For the first time today
I tried to connect one to a Cat1924.  I believe the configuration is right
on? The vlan, IP and Mask are correct but the switch will not see the
bridge.  Never had this problem before.  Is there something about the 1900's
that the Aironet doesn't like? Anyone have an idea as to what is causing
this? 

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System Engineer
Valley Health System, IS Dept.
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Route Reflectors and Peer Groups [7:23725]

2001-10-21 Thread Lupi, Guy

Below is an excerpt from a Cisco case study on multiple route reflectors
withing a cluster:

An important thing to note, is that peer-groups were not used in the above
configuration. If the clients inside a cluster do not have direct IBGP peers
among one another and they exchange updates through the RR, peer-goups
should not be used. If peer groups were to be configured, then a potential
withdrawal to the source of a route on the RR would be sent to all clients
inside the cluster and could cause problems. 

The router sub-command bgp client-to-client reflection is enabled by default
on the RR. If BGP client-to-client reflection were turned off on the RR and
redundant BGP peering was made between the clients, then using peer groups
would be alright. 

Does anyone know what they mean?  I know in IOS versions 12.0 and lower
there were issues with route reflection using peer groups, but I am trying
to figure out what they are trying to say here.  What do they mean by a
potential withdrawal to the source of a route on the RR?  Any help would be
appreciated.




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Re: Load Balancing Via BGP [7:23478]

2001-10-21 Thread Michael Paulson

BGP does not care.  It all depends on routing policies you set up.  This is
called
Asymmetrical routing.  It is extremely common all over the internet.

About the Satellite link.
I would think long and hard about using a satellite link in the scenario
mentioned
below.  Especially if there is interactive traffic.  The delay would really
cause
havoc.  It would be my bet that the network would be slower after you
introduced the new
link.

One way to use the satellite link would be to use it with policy based
routing.  I would
probably make it a bi-directional like for specific host that do not care
about speed or
delay.  Lets say for hosts doing non time sensitive batch file transfers. 
Personally I
would look for another option.

Mike Paulson
Network engineer

Wojtek Zlobicki wrote:

> I was under the impression that BGP did not work on unidirectional links.
> Can someone correct me if I'm wrong ?
>
> > hi ,
> >
> > I am currently running on 2 fibre links to two
> > different providers . The utilisation of these two
> > links are getting very high and they are getting
> > congested . I am thinking of purchasing a satellite
> > Receive-only link from another provider .
> >
> > My question is , how am I going to do load-balancing
> > using BGP on this Receive-only link ?

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Re: two routing protocols in one router? [7:23298]

2001-10-21 Thread Michael Paulson

Admin Distance comes into play when both routing protocols have exactly the
same route.
For example route 10.1.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0

If both RIP2 and OSPF know about this exact route then the route from OSPF
would be
used.  This is because OSPF has an admin distance of 110 versus RIP of 120.

Lets take another example.  Lets say OSPF knows about the route as part of a
larger
aggregate such as 10.1.0.0 mask 255.255.254.0  or a /23 mask.   Lets also
say the RIP2
still knows about the route as 10.1.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 or /24bit.  In
this second
case the RIP route would be chosen because it has a more exact match.  In
this case
Administrative distance never came into play at all.

Mike Paulson
Network engineer.

tuffgong wrote:

> That is not the case.  Routes learned from different protocols are
evaluated
> on preference (administrative distance) before checking the prefix's cost.
>
> -Bill
> ""Jeff Smith""  wrote in message
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> > I would say you could run both on a given interface.  If routes come in
> that
> > match, the one with the lowest cost will be placed into the routing
table.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > >From: "Tan Chee Leong"
> > >Reply-To: "Tan Chee Leong"
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: two routing protocols in one router? [7:23298]
> > >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:42:27 -0400
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >Just a quick one: can a router run two protocols simultaneously?  e.g.
> RIP2
> > >and OSPF?  Perhaps each interface still take care of only one protocol
> but
> > >the router itself manages two.
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Chee Leong
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LANE between CAT 3k and CAT 5k [7:23722]

2001-10-21 Thread Rick Holden

I was able to dig up 2 switches with ATM modules in them and wanted to
practice setting up an ATM network between them; however, I can't find any
documentation on directly connecting the two switches. I can only fine docu
on connecting two switches together with a lightstream between them. Is it
possible to configure LANE between the two. If it is possible could someone
please provide some example configs for the CAT 5k; the CAT3k only has a
legacy menu interface that isn't real hard to figure out. Thanks.




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Re: Upgrading IOS image on 2500 series routers. [7:23713]

2001-10-21 Thread Circusnuts

Yep- I've got one of my 2600's working as the hub for IOS images.  The
command is : #tftp-server 
tftp-server flash c4000-is-mz.112-21.bin
tftp-server flash xx-in-mz.111-24a.bin
tftp-server flash c2500-io-l.120-15

I suspect anyone who worked Y2K knows this command by heart :o)

All the best !!!
Phil

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From: "Brad Ellis" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: Upgrading IOS image on 2500 series routers. [7:23713]


> You sure can, you just need to configure one of them as a TFTP server.
>
> thanks,
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796
> Network Learning Inc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> used Cisco:  www.optsys.net
> ""William Lijewski""  wrote in message
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> > Hello,
> > I am looking for a good guide/tutitorial on how to upgrade the IOS image
> > from one 2500 series router to another.  I thought I read somewhere that
> you
> > could do this with just the two routers hooked together but I don't know
> if
> > that is true or not.
> >
> > Any good links or help is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill




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Follow Up - Thumbnail Review of Cisco's BGP-4 Command and [7:23720]

2001-10-21 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Been reading and working with this over the weekend now. Found a couple of
minor technical errors, and shame on those bad boys with decades of high
level experience not noticing that some of the IP addresses in at least one
diagram have only THREE octets!  ;->

Wow this book is good! Three appendices, one distilling RFC 1771, one on
regular expressions, and a good treatment of route-map logic that I have not
seen explained elsewhere

I am also plodding my way through a couple of the sections, most noticeably,
the "neighbor" chapter. Very detailed. Very complex. As I said in my
previous review, not an easy read, but a great set of Lab exercises - both
for configuration and troubleshooting. Most definitely a CCIE level book.
Most definitely a good source for anyone, ISP or otherwise, to have handy
when setting up BGP for any reason.

Highly recommended.

Chuck




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free cisco 806 broadband access kit [7:23656]

2001-10-21 Thread Ian Gomeche

i just got a postcard from cisco  about this through the post in britain.

free cisco 806 broadband solutions kit for download:

www.cisco.com/offer/806/d1203

ian




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Re: Design Question - Spanning-tree Protocol. [7:23614]

2001-10-21 Thread Brant Stevens

No...  To STP, the entire bundle of links in an etherchannel count towards
STP calculations...  STP will not consider it a topology change until the
last link in an etherchannel fails...

- Original Message -
From: "Urooj's Hi-speed Internet" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 11:08 AM
Subject: Design Question - Spanning-tree Protocol. [7:23614]


> Hi Folks,
> I have a design in which Cisco 3548 XL's are GBIC-stacked on various
floors
> of a campus and are uplinked to a core Cat 6509 switch. The uplink from
> every floor stack is ether-channeled to the core via two parallel
equal-cost
> paths. One uplink path starts "forwarding" and the other goes into
> "blocking" mode from each floor stack.
>
> Here is my confusion... If only one link of a 400 MBps full-duplex
> ether-channel fails from the forwarding path , will it invoke
spanning-tree
> recalculation ??? Or will the 'now' sub-optimal path still remain in
> forwarding mode and the now more-bandwidth path remain in blocking mode
???
>
> Since spanning-tree recalculation causes a lot of ripples throughout the
> switched network, I would assume that the latter were true. However, I
would
> like to hear views from people who would think that the former scenario is
> more probable.
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Aziz




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RE: Switching exam question [7:23497]

2001-10-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

That makes sense. A hierarchical network design is already a tree!

Thanks.

Priscilla

At 10:55 PM 10/19/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
>Actually, Cisco teaches that in certain circumstances in the Core, you want
>to disable Spanning Tree Protocol (STP).  I don't have the courseware with
>me at the moment, but I guess the thinking is that with Core layer devices,
>you don't run anything extraneous that takes away from the primary role of
>high-speed packet switching.  STP is considered extraneous when it's not
>required.
>
>Instead of me posting from Cisco's course material once I'm at home, why not
>search Cisco for this information... if you're interested in knowing more.
>
>
>   -- Leigh Anne
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Jonathan Hays
> > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:20 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Switching exam question [7:23497]
> >
> >
> > Yes. For the server to have a fully redundant connection it must have a
> > second NIC to
> > another switch and failover software in place.
> >
> > However, you are mistaken that anyone would normally disable STP on any
> > trunk port,
> > regardless of whether the switch is in the Core, Distribution, or Access
> > layer.
> >
> > Piatnitchi Cristian wrote:
> >
> > > Please see this link
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/cristi_piatnitchi/
> > > This is picture from the Cisco site.
> > >
> > > Could you explain me how the redundacy is achieved for the
> > server present
> > on
> > > this scheme ?
> > > In my opinion if there is no STP in the L2 core and nor a
> > second connection
> > > from  the server to the other switch "cb"
> > > there is no protection against of a failure of switch "ca". So
> > I consider
> > is
> > > useless to have redundancy in the access and
> > > distribution layers. Am I wrong ? If yes why ?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Cristian


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Re: passed ccie security lab! [7:23718]

2001-10-21 Thread vasudeva S

Hi Keyur,

Congrats... and thanks for your tips... 

Regards.,
Vasu

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 Keyur Shah wrote :
> hi,
>  
> I passed ccie security lab yesterday. I was told that i 
> did really well in
> the lab and scored nearly perfect.
>  
> My advice to the folks preparing for this lab is the 
> following,
>  
> - ccie security is very modern test. in my opinion, 
> much more real life than
> routing and switching test today
> - it is certainly doable if you put your dedicated time 
> and equipment to it
> - i studied and crammed labs for about 150 hours total 
> between CSS1(cisco
> security specialist 1) and ccie security and took me 
> little less than three
> months to accomplish both.
> - if you are ccie routing and switching, you are half 
> way there
> - if you are ccnp (practical, not book one), then you 
> are 30% there
> - if you are css1 (practical, not book one), then you 
> are 30% there
> - routing and switching is core of all three ccie 
> tracks (r/s, security and
> CNS). you must know it very well
> - read MCNS book three times before you start on CCIE 
> security labs
> - bookmark cisco's security tac site,
> 
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/ make it your 
> homepage while preparing
> for ccie security lab
> - work on speed. go back to the lab and test it as a 
> one piece
> - scan through the whole lab start to finish two times. 
> be careful not to
> spend more than 10-15 minutes though.
> - hardest part is to wait for results email. make sure 
> you plan something
> hectic the next day of your test. i was on email every 
> second and it was not
> fun to wait.
>  
> -Keyur Shah-
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Re: PPP auth PAP? Does it work?? [7:23601]

2001-10-21 Thread Gareth Hinton

My guess, which could be totally wrong:

You have service password-encryption on, so the text after the 7 in your
password string should be encrypted. It is in your username statements,
which decrypts to cisco, but according to the configs "cisco" is the
encrypted password in the ppp pap sent-username which doesn't decrypt (has
to be hex values).

If you put in ppp pap sent-username 7 cisco it takes cisco as the encrypted
password and tries to decrypt it.
You need to put in
"ppp pap sent-username 7 045802150C2E"
or
"ppp pap sent-username 7 02050D480809" (or any one of many possibilities)

or
"ppp pap sent username cisco"

I think!!!

Enough for someone else to knock me down in flames anyway

Good luck,

Gaz



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> I have 2 routers connected via S1 using ppp. I have configured the
following
> on both the routers:
> RTD
> service password-encryption
> username RTA password 7 045802150C2E
> ppp authentication pap
> ppp pap sent-username RTD password 7 cisco
>
>
> RTA
> service password-encryption
> username RTD password 7 02050D480809
> ppp authentication pap
> ppp pap sent-username RTA password 7 cisco
>
> The serial 1 shows up as UP/Down. Is this config right to begin with?
> Chap auth. works fine but pap..!!!
> Any clues.
> Thanks!!
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RE: ospf point-to-multipoint [7:23655]

2001-10-21 Thread JffryH(Yahoo)

The book did not make it clear but both are right.

1. If your use "point-to-multipoint" command on interface, the routing
packets will be send using multicast packet.
2. If you use "point-to-multipoint non-broadcast" command on interface, you
need "neighbor" under "router ospf" and the routing packets will be sent
using unicast.

You can turn on debug mode to watch ospf packets, like hello packets, which
is easy to observe.

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Hello,

On Jeff Doyle's TCP/IP volume I, P417 it says
point-to-multipoint is multicast; P433 it says it's
unicast. Which one is correct?

Thanks in advance.

Jim

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RE: Word of Caution [7:23363]

2001-10-21 Thread Ken Diliberto

I looked at their web site.  What are they doing?  Asking retail for
refurbished equipment?  They say "all unreasonable offers will be refused".
Give me a break.  I think better deals can be found on eBay, and we all know
you usually don't get any deals there.

Now if only I had something useful to post...

Ken

>>> "Anh Lam"  10/21/01 10:43AM >>>
Rick hit it right on the head.  I take an apology from a "sale" guy with a
grain of salt.  Robert, why don't you do the honorable thing and sell to
debbie what she bidded for when she placed the order?  I teach networking a
a community college and I have a lot of students asking me where they can
purchase networking gears.  One thing I will tell them for sure is to "stay
away" from www.itparade.com.  As Rick has mentioned before, we don't judge
people by their mistakes, we judge people on how they correct them.  If
memory serves me right, I remembered a few months back United Airlines
mistakenly posted on their
web sites flying coast to coast for $1.00.  Guess what happened, United
Airlines has to honor it because it is the "right thing to do".  In this
case, we have a sale guy try to come up with a lame excuse that their system
was not functioning properly at the time the customer placed orders.
Believe me, in this age of instant messaging, www.itparade.com will be the
place that networking folks stay away when it comes to purchasing
equipments.

[snip]




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help with troubleshooting Cisco VPN connection in [7:23695]

2001-10-21 Thread Anh Lam

Can someone in this group help me with this problem?

I am trying to setup VPN connections for remote users (people
who use laptops on the road or when people to who are on their
own corporate network) to connect to my home network  using
IPSec.  I am using a PIX515-UR Firewall at my home network.
The external IP address (outside) of the PIX is 66.61.46.240
while the internal IP address (inside) of the PIX is 172.16.1.254.

On the PIX, I also setup an IP pool so that the PIX will assign
IP address to remote clients when they connect to my home
network.  This ip pool has ip range of 172.16.2.1-172.16.2.254.

On the clients side, everyone is running Cisco VPN client
software version 3.0.6.rel2-k9 which I download from Cisco
website.  The clients are running either WinNT 4.0 workstation,
or Win2k Professional or RedHat Linux 7.1 with kernel 2.4.10.

When a client attempts to make a VPN connection to the PIX
(66.61.46.240), the connection is successfully and the client is
also assigned an IP address of 172.16.2.1.  So what is the problem
you ask?  Well, even though the client is successfully authenticated
to my home network, he/she can NOT ping any of the devices in the
172.16.1.0/24 network.  From the client, I can see the packet gets
encrypted before sending out but nothing coming back (the counter
on the packet decrypted on the client is zero).  Rebooting the PIX
several times didnot resolve the situation either.

At this point, I decided to replace the PIX515 with a PIX520
with the exact configuration.  With the PIX520, everything WORKS.
Client can access devices on the 172.16.1.0/24 network.
I am running the same PIX IOS code on both the 515 and 520.  Am
I missing something in the PIX515?  I thought since I am running the
Un-Restricted(UR) license, VPN is supported.  Below is the
configuration of the PIX515.  Please help.

Thanks.
Anh

ciscopix#sh ver

Cisco PIX Firewall Version 6.1(1)
Cisco PIX Device Manager Version 1.0(2)

Compiled on Tue 11-Sep-01 07:45 by morlee

ciscopix up 9 hours 37 mins

Hardware:   PIX-515, 96 MB RAM, CPU Pentium 200 MHz
Flash i28F640J5 @ 0x300, 16MB
BIOS Flash AT29C257 @ 0xfffd8000, 32KB

0: ethernet0: address is 0050.54ff.7a24, irq 10
1: ethernet1: address is 0050.54ff.7a25, irq 7
2: ethernet2: address is 00aa.00bc.ba87, irq 11

Licensed Features:
Failover:   Enabled
VPN-DES:Enabled
VPN-3DES:   Disabled
Maximum Interfaces: 6
Cut-through Proxy:  Enabled
Guards: Enabled
Websense:   Enabled
Inside Hosts:   Unlimited
Throughput: Unlimited
ISAKMP peers:   Unlimited

ciscopix# wr t
Building configuration...
: Saved
:
PIX Version 6.1(1)
nameif ethernet0 outside security0
nameif ethernet1 inside security100
nameif ethernet2 dmz security99
enable password xxx encrypted
passwd x encrypted
hostname ciscopix
domain-name micronet.com
fixup protocol ftp 21
fixup protocol http 80
fixup protocol h323 1720
fixup protocol rsh 514
fixup protocol rtsp 554
fixup protocol smtp 25
fixup protocol sqlnet 1521
fixup protocol sip 5060
fixup protocol skinny 2000
no names
access-list 101 permit ip 172.16.1.0 255.255.255.0 172.16.2.0 255.255.255.0
access-list 101 permit ip host 66.61.46.240 172.16.2.0 255.255.255.0
access-list 80 permit ip 172.16.1.0 255.255.255.0 172.16.2.0 255.255.255.0
pager lines 24
interface ethernet0 auto
interface ethernet1 auto
interface ethernet2 100full shutdown
mtu outside 1500
mtu inside 1500
mtu dmz 1500
ip address outside 66.61.46.240 255.255.248.0
ip address inside 172.16.1.254 255.255.255.0
ip address dmz 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.0
ip audit info action alarm
ip audit attack action alarm
ip local pool ippool 172.16.2.1-172.16.2.254
no failover
failover timeout 0:00:00
failover poll 15
failover ip address outside 0.0.0.0
failover ip address inside 0.0.0.0
failover ip address dmz 0.0.0.0
pdm location 164.109.0.0 255.255.0.0 outside
pdm location 172.16.1.0 255.255.255.0 inside
pdm history enable
arp timeout 14400
nat (inside) 0 access-list 101
conduit permit ip any any
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 66.61.40.1 1
timeout xlate 3:00:00
timeout conn 1:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 rpc 0:10:00
h323 0:05:00 sip 0:30:00 sip_media 0:02:00
timeout uauth 0:05:00 absolute
aaa-server TACACS+ protocol tacacs+
aaa-server RADIUS protocol radius
http 172.16.1.0 255.255.255.0 inside
http 172.16.1.0 255.255.255.0 dmz
no snmp-server location
no snmp-server contact
snmp-server community public
no snmp-server enable traps
floodguard enable
sysopt connection permit-ipsec
no sysopt route dnat
auth-prompt prompt prompt
crypto ipsec transform-set myset esp-des esp-md5-hmac
crypto dynamic-map dynmap 10 set transform-set myset
crypto map mymap 10 ipsec-isakmp dynamic dynmap
crypto map mymap interface outside
isakmp enable outside
isakmp identity address
isakmp policy 10 authentication pre-share
isakmp policy 10 encryption des
isakmp policy 10 hash md5
isakmp policy 10 group 2
isakmp policy 10 lifetime 86400
isakmp policy 20 authentication pre-shar

Re: AW: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread Carroll Kong

It has to do brute force strength.  Against an MD5, it does pretty 
poorly, benching about 440 Cracks per second on a K6-200 with 160 megs of 
ram.  (ram is irrelevant to be honest).  I am guessing that say a gigahertz 
processor might do a linear increase to about ~2000 Cracks per 
second.  This is pretty slow and has almost no chance to stop a good 8 
character password.

With about 92 or so character choices for a password,
8^92 == 121.416E81.  Or, a heck of a lot for a simple 8 character 
password.  Yes, with this number, it is impossible for one machine to do 
this in a life time.

 Note, few people put up good, strong passwords.  If there is any 
level of efficiency, we can cut this number down a lot.

 On the side, Microsoft's Mighty NT Lan Man DES gets hit by an 
astounding 90K cracks per second on a K6-200.  Forget that, I believe 
L0phtcrack lets you do 300-400K cracks per second on your slightly below 
average processor of today and can do them in parallel.  Maybe that is why 
Microsoft is quickly dropping their Lanman Hash as they introduce Win2k as 
the "champion server OS?"

 However, I wonder if one can use programs like "john the ripper" 
in parallel with other machines.  With a "cracking" Athlon box running for 
maybe $400 bucks, you can probably setup one nasty cluster to cut this down 
to size.  Although this may seem like a lot of trouble a hacker has to go 
through, it is and it is not.  If you give ANYONE an encrypted hash 
guarding something really important, you can assume it will be cracked 
within a life time and be used against you.  (Another good reason why you 
should rotate your passwords over a certain amount of time, but that of 
course has other possible problems).  Heck, it seems fairly reasonable for 
a hacker to have a small cluster of Athlon boxes.  I have quite a few PCs 
at home.

 As for practicality, one could argue most "script kiddies" are 
unable to fathom even what I just wrote.  However, a mere amateur or 
professional hacker could easily wreck do this.  Be careful if you have 
sensitive information or enemies!

At 02:59 PM 10/21/01 -0400, Maissen Sacha wrote:
>Anh,
>Sorry for my question about your test below. This program "john the
>ripper", is
>it working with dictionaries or not? Because my question is, if I use
>passwords
>like "12eldkvi", which are not in any dics, how long you need then to
>crack a
>MD5-password?
>
>Regards
>Sacha
>
>-Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-
>Von: Anh Lam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2001 20:46
>An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Betreff: Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]
>
>
>Gareth,
>I create an "enable secret" password on a Cisco router 2610 with the
>password as you mentioned "kittens".  Remember this is an MD5 encrypted
>string ($1$Em47$DEsFfXv/Px6y/cEmjMwfE0).  You know what, I take this
>string
>and use the program called "john the ripper" running on my linux box to
>crack it.  This linux is a pentium 200MHz with 64MB of RAM.  It takes
>exactly 5 minutes to crack this password.  I would imagine for longer
>"enable secret" password, it takes longer but not as difficult as it
>sounds.
>
>Regards,
-Carroll Kong




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RE: Doyle Chap:14 Config Q.1 [7:23648]

2001-10-21 Thread Mark Morenz

Hey there GUY:

172.16.1.0  with a wildcard mask of 0.0.0.127
means the same as 172.16.1.0/25. In other words, only various combinations
of the last seven bits may have been manipulated to form the host addresses
that belong to the subnetwork that this acl will affect. This makes the
range 172.16.1.0 to 172.16.1.127 (not 128, as you wrote)

Similarly, 172.16.1.128 0.0.0.127 will affect the range from 172.16.1.128 to
172.16.1.255.

What you've written: 
"172.16.1.0/28 to 172.16.1.128/28" isn't really a range, but rather two
different subnets available with /28 masks. There are sixteen:
172.16.1.0/28
172.16.1.16/28
172.16.1.32/28
...etc until you get to 172.16.1.240/28

The 'first' eight of these (.o/28 through .112/28) all share the same bit
structure through the first 25 bits, so that is why the first
example acl you cited (172.16.1.0  with a wildcard mask of 0.0.0.127) would
work for that.

Similarly, the 172.16.1.128 0.0.0.127 will block out the rest because the
bit structure for all of those is the same for the first 25 bits. Remember ,
the wildcard mask just tells the router to ignore anything that's masked out
with a "1" bit in the mask.

HTH

:-{)]

Mark A. Morenz, MS Ed, CCNA, CCAI





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RE: weird termsrv problem [7:23719]

2001-10-21 Thread ohanusi anthony

I had a problem like this before on checking ,the memory and 
cpu  utilization was very high .what i did was just to run a smaller size 
ios.This actually happen when i try configuring  DLSW on the system.Try 
change your ios

Regards


>try another IOS in order to eliminate a possible SW issue (yes, even though
>it might of been working before without problem!)
>
>jaz
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>routerjocky
>Sent: 21 October 2001 08:05
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: weird termsrv problem
>
>
>I'm having a strange problem with my homelab 2511.  Telnet sessions to the
>terminal server just drop unexpectedly.  No rhyme or reason to it.  A 'clear
>arp' command (from the console) allows me to access the terminal server
>again.
>No errors on the e0 interface are being generated.  I've tried changing the
>transceiver, cable, and moving to a different hub port, but none of those
>changes seem to solve the problem.  One of the weirdest 'flaky' problems
>that
>I've ever seen, and terribly frustrating because I can't diagnose the
>problem
>from the router.  (next step: sniff the network)
>
>Has anyone seen this kind of behavior before?
>
>If so, what was the solution?
>
>If not, what's your best guess at what the problem could be?
>
>thanks in advance
>-e-
>May the route be with you
>Switch if you must, route if you can  ;-)
>http://members.home.net/airwrck
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WAN  Engineer

Network Solution, A Schlumberger Company
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Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread Carroll Kong

You are correct, assuming fully random values.  Let us not assume 
that "4 hours" is a long time.  If they have the hash, they have all the 
time in the world and you will never know they are cracking away at 
it.  The hash MUST be and SHOULD be guarded at all costs.  This definitely 
stops the neophytes, but you really do not want the pros getting their 
hands on it.
 Each attempt varies, for MD5, john in particular runs 440 Cracks 
per second on a k6-200.  This is very slow.
 As for "kittens/1", no, it would not help much.  If you have ANY 
string that is within a dictionary, you just gave up that entire 
subsection.  There are lot of clever combinations that can be used and 
done.  If you do not believe me, just take a look at some regular 
expressions that perl programmers use.  You can catch a LOT of combinations 
and do lots of tricks.

1)  Do not use ANYTHING remotely related to you personally or in a 
dictionary for a password.
2)  Do not use clever combinations like KiTtEnS/134, it is just as easy to 
crack.
3)  Do not use password generators.  Why?  Write a program that does 
password generation.  You did it?  Great.  You did an algorithm based on 
some "random" seed.  Does not matter, you now have a pattern which you can 
write your hacking program to work with.  Now it will know your pattern if 
it can reverse engineer the algorithm (should not be too hard), and you can 
kiss every single password that you used with that good bye, like in 5 
seconds each.  ;)

(if you use open source software to generate, they got the algorithm, if 
you used closed source, you can delude yourself in that security through 
obscurity works.  well, it does not).

At 03:19 PM 10/21/01 -0400, Gareth Hinton wrote:
>I would imagine that if using a-z and 0 to 9, with 8 characters there would
>be 8 to the power 36 combinations (I think).
>Trouble is those numbers are getting too large for me to have any concept of
>how long it would take to hack. We'd need to get an idea of how long each
>attempt takes.
>
>Looking back at the original password it was very similar to yours. His unix
>box had been going for 4 hours when we stopped it to do those tests, so much
>harder to crack. I'm going to set one off later to see how long it takes.
>
>This is not scare mongering by the way.
>To accomplish this you already need to have the MD5 hash. I think it's just
>better to avoid complacency - make the passwords longer and use special
>characters if possible. I didn't realise the amount of difference between
>dictionary passwords and the alternative. I suppose something as simple as
>"kittens/1" would cut out the dictionary searches.
>
>Gareth
>
>
>
>""Maissen Sacha""  wrote in message
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> > Anh,
> > Sorry for my question about your test below. This program "john the
> > ripper", is
> > it working with dictionaries or not? Because my question is, if I use
> > passwords
> > like "12eldkvi", which are not in any dics, how long you need then to
> > crack a
> > MD5-password?
> >
> > Regards
> > Sacha
> >
> > -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: Anh Lam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2001 20:46
> > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Betreff: Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]
> >
> >
> > Gareth,
> > I create an "enable secret" password on a Cisco router 2610 with the
> > password as you mentioned "kittens".  Remember this is an MD5 encrypted
> > string ($1$Em47$DEsFfXv/Px6y/cEmjMwfE0).  You know what, I take this
> > string
> > and use the program called "john the ripper" running on my linux box to
> > crack it.  This linux is a pentium 200MHz with 64MB of RAM.  It takes
> > exactly 5 minutes to crack this password.  I would imagine for longer
> > "enable secret" password, it takes longer but not as difficult as it
> > sounds.
> >
> > Regards,
-Carroll Kong




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Re: Problem with Etherchannel [7:23692]

2001-10-21 Thread Brant Stevens

You can set a channel with desirable on both sides of a link...  you can't
with auto/auto or anything with one side set to off, for obvious reasons...

What VLANs are the trunks set to carry?  The VLAN settings must be
identical, as well as duplex and negotiation...


- Original Message -
From: "Carroll Kong" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with Etherchannel [7:23692]


> You cannot do both as desirable.  One must be desirable and the
> other auto.  Or you can try forcing the modes to "on" and "on".  That
might
> fix it!
>
> At 12:57 PM 10/21/01 -0400, Brad Moss wrote:
> >I am trying to connect two cat5500s and am unable to get port channel to
> >come online.  I have configured both sides below is the config of the
ports.
> >Any help would be greatly appreciated. These are production switches the
> >only thing I have to done is reboot them.  For some reason they are not
> >recognizing that they are connect to the same switch on the other end of
> >either link. I am unaware on any "special" things that must happen for
port
> >channeling both blades support it.
> >
> >
> >Set po channel 8/3-4 mode desirable
> >Set trunk 8/3 isl on
> >Set trunk 8/4 isl on
> >
> >Set po channel 1/1-2 desirable
> >Set trunk 1/1 isl on
> >Set trunk 1/2  isl on
> >
> >Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
> >---
> >  8/3 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
> 100BaseFX
> >MM
> >
> >Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
> >  Mode Group Id
> >- --  - -
> >  8/3  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
> >
> >Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
> >---
> >  8/4 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
> 100BaseFX
> >MM
> >Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
> >  Mode Group Id
> >- --  - -
> >  8/4  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
> >
> >SJMDFSW01> (enable) sho po channel
> >No ports channeling
> >
> >Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
> >---
> >  1/1  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
> 100BaseFX
> >MM
> >
> >Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
> > mode  status  device
> port
>
>- -- - --- - --
> >  1/1  connected  desirable not channel
> >
> >Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
> >---
> >  1/2  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
> 100BaseFX
> >MM
> >
> >Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
> >  mode  status  device
> >port
>
>- -- - --- - --
> >  1/2  connected  desirable not channel
> >
> >SJDCSW02> (enable) sho po channel
> >No ports channelling
> >
> >
> >Brad Moss,  CCNA
> >Network Administrator
> >CHRISTUS St. Joseph's Medical Center - South
> >www.christushealth.org
> >(903) 737-3160
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -Carroll Kong




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Re: Upgrading IOS image on 2500 series routers. [7:23713]

2001-10-21 Thread Brad Ellis

You sure can, you just need to configure one of them as a TFTP server.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
Network Learning Inc
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> Hello,
> I am looking for a good guide/tutitorial on how to upgrade the IOS image
> from one 2500 series router to another.  I thought I read somewhere that
you
> could do this with just the two routers hooked together but I don't know
if
> that is true or not.
>
> Any good links or help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill




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Upgrading IOS image on 2500 series routers. [7:23713]

2001-10-21 Thread William Lijewski

Hello,
I am looking for a good guide/tutitorial on how to upgrade the IOS image
from one 2500 series router to another.  I thought I read somewhere that you
could do this with just the two routers hooked together but I don't know if
that is true or not.

Any good links or help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Bill



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RE: weird termsrv problem [7:23712]

2001-10-21 Thread Ajaz Nawaz

hey man,

try another IOS in order to eliminate a possible SW issue (yes, even though
it might of been working before without problem!)

jaz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
routerjocky
Sent: 21 October 2001 08:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: weird termsrv problem


I'm having a strange problem with my homelab 2511.  Telnet sessions to the
terminal server just drop unexpectedly.  No rhyme or reason to it.  A 'clear
arp' command (from the console) allows me to access the terminal server
again.
No errors on the e0 interface are being generated.  I've tried changing the
transceiver, cable, and moving to a different hub port, but none of those
changes seem to solve the problem.  One of the weirdest 'flaky' problems
that
I've ever seen, and terribly frustrating because I can't diagnose the
problem
from the router.  (next step: sniff the network)

Has anyone seen this kind of behavior before?

If so, what was the solution?

If not, what's your best guess at what the problem could be?

thanks in advance
-e-
May the route be with you
Switch if you must, route if you can  ;-)
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Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread Anh Lam

If routers and switches are configured to use TACACS then both the EXEC 
(level7) and enable secret password are pretty much useless.  For some 
hackers to get onto a router or a switch with EXEC and enable secret, the 
TACACS server must not be reachable by the router and switch. Only at that 
point, one would have to log onto Cisco devices with local account and go 
into privilege mode with enable secret password. Authentication and 
Authorization and Accounting will be taking place at the TACACS server under 
normal condition.  Frankly, I wouldn't be too worry about it anyway.


>From: "Brian Whalen" 
>Reply-To: "Brian Whalen" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]
>Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 15:38:37 -0400
>
>perhaps this is why sho run and sho conf are not level 1 commands??
>
>Brian "Sonic" Whalen
>Success = Preparation + Opportunity
>
>
>On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Gareth Hinton wrote:
>
> > The reason I asked was to see if other peoples impression was the same 
>as
> > mine. I've got the tools for the level 7 passwords, but was under the
> > impression that the enable secret was almost impossible.
> > I do some work for a fairly large company that had some penetration 
>testing
> > done this week by a government agency.
> > One of the "hackers" told me that depending on the length and complexity 
>of
> > the password he could crack the enable password from the MD5 hash pretty
> > quickly.
> > The passwords we normally use for enable secrets are over 8 character
>random
> > alphanumeric strings, so it was taking some time.
> > Not believing him entirely, I suggested that I simplify the password a
> > little to a dictionary word of 7 characters. I changed it to "kittens" 
>and
> > it took his unix box around 5 seconds to go through the dictionary
> > performing MD5 hash on every word, then comparing the result with the 
>real
> > hash.
> >
> > I was quite surprised at how quick it was. Admittedly they need to see 
>the
> > MD5 hash somehow, but I've never gone over the top to cover these up 
>before
> > now.
> >
> > We also (a little carelessly) got caught out with a few switches with 
>"IP
> > HTTP SERVER" on as default, so the weakness with http allowed level 15
> > access to the switches. Oops.
> >
> > Just thought I'd bring it up anyway. I think "no ip http server" and 
>more
> > complex passwords are in order.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Gareth
> >
> > ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > The enable secret would not be an easy thing to crack.  The enable
> > password,
> > > however, can be cracked easily with a number of utilities available 
>for
> > free
> > > on the internet.
> > >
> > > If you have hackers attacking your network who have the capability to
> > crack
> > > the enable secret then you have much bigger problems.
> > >
> > > As I recall, the enable secret displayed when you do a show run is a
> > one-way
> > > hash, so the original cannot be determined from the encrypted version.
> > I'll
> > > have to check into that.
> > >
> > > A good hacker would spend his time elsewhere.  Sitting at the login
>prompt
> > > trying to guess passwords for a few years probably isn't a wise way to
> > spend
> > > one's time.  Hackers tend to go for the low-hanging fruit.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 09:13:35 -0400, Gareth Hinton wrote:
> > >
> > > |  Hi all,
> > > |
> > > |  I'm asking this as a matter of interest after something I saw this
> > week:
> > > |  Given the following line of config:
> > > |
> > > |  enable secret 5 $1$32Pc$uq7Tr7gq4v22PqEG4WFF90
> > > |
> > > |  What are the chances of cracking the enable secret?  (Without 
>raising
> > > |  suspicicion by having 40 million attempts on the box itself.)
> > > |  Lets say the password is an 8 character string of letters only, not
> > > |  necessarily a dictionary word.
> > > |
> > > |  What's everybody's view, could it be easily hacked or not?
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |  Thanks,
> > > |
> > > |  Gaz
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > > ___
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RE: Problem with Etherchannel [7:23692]

2001-10-21 Thread Brad Moss

No problem, I was looking up on CCO, the Etherchannel configuration for ios
5.4 and it confirmed my thoughts and yours. I was able to the get line up as
a channel once I turned off trunking, set the right vlan to the ports,
assigned po channel 8/2-3 desirable and 1/1-2 auto, and turned trunking back
on.

Thanks to all

Brad Moss CCNA

-Original Message-
From: Carroll Kong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 2:25 PM
To: Brad Moss
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem with Etherchannel [7:23692]

 Yeah, sorry for the misinformation before.  Here is the a good way
to remember the modes.  The most part, PaGP is either auto or
desirable.  Or you can just turn the pesky thing on or
off.  (non-PaGp).  Of course it will only work if you are both on if you
choose the non-PaGp mode.  As for knowing the right compatibility, remember
that desirable people are also aggressive.  :)  Two aggressive people can
communicate.  Auto is passive.  Two passive people cannot communicate.  One
aggressive and one passive can communicate as well.  Just think of an
aggressive desirable as those players.  (male or female).  Those nice guys
and girls who are passive just never get with anyone.  :)  Sorry, I just
immediately jumped the gun and assumed you chose the two passive case
without really reading carefully and remembering my own rules.  :(  Very
bad form, I do not blame anyone for not believing me after such a blunder.

 You cannot do both as desirable.  One must be desirable and the
other auto.  Or you can try forcing the modes to "on" and "on".  That might
fix it!

At 12:57 PM 10/21/01 -0400, Brad Moss wrote:
>I am trying to connect two cat5500s and am unable to get port channel to
>come online.  I have configured both sides below is the config of the
ports.
>Any help would be greatly appreciated. These are production switches the
>only thing I have to done is reboot them.  For some reason they are not
>recognizing that they are connect to the same switch on the other end of
>either link. I am unaware on any "special" things that must happen for port
>channeling both blades support it.
>
>
>Set po channel 8/3-4 mode desirable
>Set trunk 8/3 isl on
>Set trunk 8/4 isl on
>
>Set po channel 1/1-2 desirable
>Set trunk 1/1 isl on
>Set trunk 1/2  isl on
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
>---
>  8/3 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>
>Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
>  Mode Group Id
>- --  - -
>  8/3  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
>---
>  8/4 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
>  Mode Group Id
>- --  - -
>  8/4  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
>
>SJMDFSW01> (enable) sho po channel
>No ports channeling
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
>---
>  1/1  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>
>Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
> mode  status  device
port
>- -- - --- - --
>  1/1  connected  desirable not channel
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
>---
>  1/2  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>
>Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
>  mode  status  device
>port
>- -- - --- - --
>  1/2  connected  desirable not channel
>
>SJDCSW02> (enable) sho po channel
>No ports channelling
>
>
>Brad Moss,  CCNA
>Network Administrator
>CHRISTUS St. Joseph's Medical Center - South
>www.christushealth.org
>(903) 737-3160
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Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread Brian Whalen

perhaps this is why sho run and sho conf are not level 1 commands??

Brian "Sonic" Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Gareth Hinton wrote:

> The reason I asked was to see if other peoples impression was the same as
> mine. I've got the tools for the level 7 passwords, but was under the
> impression that the enable secret was almost impossible.
> I do some work for a fairly large company that had some penetration testing
> done this week by a government agency.
> One of the "hackers" told me that depending on the length and complexity of
> the password he could crack the enable password from the MD5 hash pretty
> quickly.
> The passwords we normally use for enable secrets are over 8 character
random
> alphanumeric strings, so it was taking some time.
> Not believing him entirely, I suggested that I simplify the password a
> little to a dictionary word of 7 characters. I changed it to "kittens" and
> it took his unix box around 5 seconds to go through the dictionary
> performing MD5 hash on every word, then comparing the result with the real
> hash.
>
> I was quite surprised at how quick it was. Admittedly they need to see the
> MD5 hash somehow, but I've never gone over the top to cover these up before
> now.
>
> We also (a little carelessly) got caught out with a few switches with "IP
> HTTP SERVER" on as default, so the weakness with http allowed level 15
> access to the switches. Oops.
>
> Just thought I'd bring it up anyway. I think "no ip http server" and more
> complex passwords are in order.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Gareth
>
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > The enable secret would not be an easy thing to crack.  The enable
> password,
> > however, can be cracked easily with a number of utilities available for
> free
> > on the internet.
> >
> > If you have hackers attacking your network who have the capability to
> crack
> > the enable secret then you have much bigger problems.
> >
> > As I recall, the enable secret displayed when you do a show run is a
> one-way
> > hash, so the original cannot be determined from the encrypted version.
> I'll
> > have to check into that.
> >
> > A good hacker would spend his time elsewhere.  Sitting at the login
prompt
> > trying to guess passwords for a few years probably isn't a wise way to
> spend
> > one's time.  Hackers tend to go for the low-hanging fruit.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
> >
> > On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 09:13:35 -0400, Gareth Hinton wrote:
> >
> > |  Hi all,
> > |
> > |  I'm asking this as a matter of interest after something I saw this
> week:
> > |  Given the following line of config:
> > |
> > |  enable secret 5 $1$32Pc$uq7Tr7gq4v22PqEG4WFF90
> > |
> > |  What are the chances of cracking the enable secret?  (Without raising
> > |  suspicicion by having 40 million attempts on the box itself.)
> > |  Lets say the password is an 8 character string of letters only, not
> > |  necessarily a dictionary word.
> > |
> > |  What's everybody's view, could it be easily hacked or not?
> > |
> > |
> > |  Thanks,
> > |
> > |  Gaz
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
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Re: AW: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread Anh Lam

If the password is NOT in the dictionary, then it would take considerable 
amount of time to crack it.  I've not tried it yet so I can't tell you; 
however, given the power of PC's these days, I wouldn't be suprised that it 
will not take very long.  Furthermore, if someone really want to crack the 
password, he/she would use this application on
clustering technology to increase the CPU and memory.




>From: "Maissen Sacha" 
>Reply-To: "Maissen Sacha" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: AW: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]
>Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:59:51 -0400
>
>Anh,
>Sorry for my question about your test below. This program "john the
>ripper", is
>it working with dictionaries or not? Because my question is, if I use
>passwords
>like "12eldkvi", which are not in any dics, how long you need then to
>crack a
>MD5-password?
>
>Regards
>Sacha
>
>-Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-
>Von: Anh Lam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2001 20:46
>An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Betreff: Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]
>
>
>Gareth,
>I create an "enable secret" password on a Cisco router 2610 with the
>password as you mentioned "kittens".  Remember this is an MD5 encrypted
>string ($1$Em47$DEsFfXv/Px6y/cEmjMwfE0).  You know what, I take this
>string
>and use the program called "john the ripper" running on my linux box to
>crack it.  This linux is a pentium 200MHz with 64MB of RAM.  It takes
>exactly 5 minutes to crack this password.  I would imagine for longer
>"enable secret" password, it takes longer but not as difficult as it
>sounds.
>
>Regards,
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Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread Gareth Hinton

I would imagine that if using a-z and 0 to 9, with 8 characters there would
be 8 to the power 36 combinations (I think).
Trouble is those numbers are getting too large for me to have any concept of
how long it would take to hack. We'd need to get an idea of how long each
attempt takes.

Looking back at the original password it was very similar to yours. His unix
box had been going for 4 hours when we stopped it to do those tests, so much
harder to crack. I'm going to set one off later to see how long it takes.

This is not scare mongering by the way.
To accomplish this you already need to have the MD5 hash. I think it's just
better to avoid complacency - make the passwords longer and use special
characters if possible. I didn't realise the amount of difference between
dictionary passwords and the alternative. I suppose something as simple as
"kittens/1" would cut out the dictionary searches.

Gareth



""Maissen Sacha""  wrote in message
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> Anh,
> Sorry for my question about your test below. This program "john the
> ripper", is
> it working with dictionaries or not? Because my question is, if I use
> passwords
> like "12eldkvi", which are not in any dics, how long you need then to
> crack a
> MD5-password?
>
> Regards
> Sacha
>
> -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Anh Lam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2001 20:46
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]
>
>
> Gareth,
> I create an "enable secret" password on a Cisco router 2610 with the
> password as you mentioned "kittens".  Remember this is an MD5 encrypted
> string ($1$Em47$DEsFfXv/Px6y/cEmjMwfE0).  You know what, I take this
> string
> and use the program called "john the ripper" running on my linux box to
> crack it.  This linux is a pentium 200MHz with 64MB of RAM.  It takes
> exactly 5 minutes to crack this password.  I would imagine for longer
> "enable secret" password, it takes longer but not as difficult as it
> sounds.
>
> Regards,




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Re: EIGRP load balancing - variance command [7:23623]

2001-10-21 Thread Pamela Forsyth

In order for the second-best path to be used for unequal-cost load 
balancing using variance, it MUST meet the feasibility condition.  IOW, it 
has to qualify to be the feasible successor route. If it doesn't, it won't 
matter how great you make the variance value.

Francis, look at the output of "show ip eigrp topology all" on R1.  Check 
to see whether the "advertised distance" (after the slash) for the 
alternate route via R3 is LESS THAN the "feasible distance" (total metric) 
for this route via R2 (this one should be your successor route, the one 
that's best).  I haven't worked out your numbers, but I have a feeling it 
won't meet the feasibility condition, and that's why you're not getting the 
unequal-cost load balancing you seek.

Pamela

At 12:02 AM 10/21/01 -0400, you wrote:
>In this scenario, I don't know why you use 128 for variance value.  In
>short, you choose a value of variance such that this value multiplies by the
>best path should be GREATER than the alternate path you like to load
>balancing.
>
>For this scenario, the bandwidth on R1-R2-R4 path is 3000K, bandwidth on
>R1-R3-R4 path is 1544K.  Using a variance of 2 should load balance between
>the 2 paths.
>
>1544k x 2  >  3000k
>
>Thomas N.
>
>
>""kwock99""  wrote in message
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> > I have tried some basic testing on the EIGRP load balancing. For
>simplicity,
> > I only set up 4 router in order to get equal cost load balancing.
> >
> >
> > LANA**R1 --R2 --R4  LANB
> >||
> >   --R3
> >
> > ***: Ethernet
> > : Wan
> >
> > If I use the default setting for the bandwidth and delay, I can get two
> > route from LAN A to LANB.
> >
> > R1--R2--R4
> > R1--R3--R4
> >
> > After I changed all the bandwidth of serial interface of R1, R2, R4 to
> > 3000Kbit (default is 1544kbit), I cannot get two route to LAN B, only the
> > best route appears (R1--R2--R4). It is normal.
> >
> > I key in the "variance 128" command in R1 in order to get two route, but
>it
> > failed. The parameter 128 is make sure that the R1 will take any
alternate
> > route to LAN B because the metric of R1--R3--R4 must be less than 128 *
> > (metric of R1--R2--R4).
> >
> > Anyone have the idea? Thanks.
> >
> > Francis




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AW: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread Maissen Sacha

Anh,
Sorry for my question about your test below. This program "john the
ripper", is
it working with dictionaries or not? Because my question is, if I use
passwords
like "12eldkvi", which are not in any dics, how long you need then to
crack a 
MD5-password? 

Regards
Sacha

-Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-
Von: Anh Lam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2001 20:46
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]


Gareth,
I create an "enable secret" password on a Cisco router 2610 with the 
password as you mentioned "kittens".  Remember this is an MD5 encrypted 
string ($1$Em47$DEsFfXv/Px6y/cEmjMwfE0).  You know what, I take this
string 
and use the program called "john the ripper" running on my linux box to 
crack it.  This linux is a pentium 200MHz with 64MB of RAM.  It takes 
exactly 5 minutes to crack this password.  I would imagine for longer 
"enable secret" password, it takes longer but not as difficult as it
sounds.

Regards,




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Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread Anh Lam

Gareth,
I create an "enable secret" password on a Cisco router 2610 with the 
password as you mentioned "kittens".  Remember this is an MD5 encrypted 
string ($1$Em47$DEsFfXv/Px6y/cEmjMwfE0).  You know what, I take this string 
and use the program called "john the ripper" running on my linux box to 
crack it.  This linux is a pentium 200MHz with 64MB of RAM.  It takes 
exactly 5 minutes to crack this password.  I would imagine for longer 
"enable secret" password, it takes longer but not as difficult as it sounds.

Regards,



>From: "Gareth Hinton" 
>Reply-To: "Gareth Hinton" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]
>Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 13:34:19 -0400
>
>The reason I asked was to see if other peoples impression was the same as
>mine. I've got the tools for the level 7 passwords, but was under the
>impression that the enable secret was almost impossible.
>I do some work for a fairly large company that had some penetration testing
>done this week by a government agency.
>One of the "hackers" told me that depending on the length and complexity of
>the password he could crack the enable password from the MD5 hash pretty
>quickly.
>The passwords we normally use for enable secrets are over 8 character 
>random
>alphanumeric strings, so it was taking some time.
>Not believing him entirely, I suggested that I simplify the password a
>little to a dictionary word of 7 characters. I changed it to "kittens" and
>it took his unix box around 5 seconds to go through the dictionary
>performing MD5 hash on every word, then comparing the result with the real
>hash.
>
>I was quite surprised at how quick it was. Admittedly they need to see the
>MD5 hash somehow, but I've never gone over the top to cover these up before
>now.
>
>We also (a little carelessly) got caught out with a few switches with "IP
>HTTP SERVER" on as default, so the weakness with http allowed level 15
>access to the switches. Oops.
>
>Just thought I'd bring it up anyway. I think "no ip http server" and more
>complex passwords are in order.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Gareth
>
>""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > The enable secret would not be an easy thing to crack.  The enable
>password,
> > however, can be cracked easily with a number of utilities available for
>free
> > on the internet.
> >
> > If you have hackers attacking your network who have the capability to
>crack
> > the enable secret then you have much bigger problems.
> >
> > As I recall, the enable secret displayed when you do a show run is a
>one-way
> > hash, so the original cannot be determined from the encrypted version.
>I'll
> > have to check into that.
> >
> > A good hacker would spend his time elsewhere.  Sitting at the login 
>prompt
> > trying to guess passwords for a few years probably isn't a wise way to
>spend
> > one's time.  Hackers tend to go for the low-hanging fruit.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
> >
> > On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 09:13:35 -0400, Gareth Hinton wrote:
> >
> > |  Hi all,
> > |
> > |  I'm asking this as a matter of interest after something I saw this
>week:
> > |  Given the following line of config:
> > |
> > |  enable secret 5 $1$32Pc$uq7Tr7gq4v22PqEG4WFF90
> > |
> > |  What are the chances of cracking the enable secret?  (Without raising
> > |  suspicicion by having 40 million attempts on the box itself.)
> > |  Lets say the password is an 8 character string of letters only, not
> > |  necessarily a dictionary word.
> > |
> > |  What's everybody's view, could it be easily hacked or not?
> > |
> > |
> > |  Thanks,
> > |
> > |  Gaz
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
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Re: ospf point-to-multipoint [7:23655]

2001-10-21 Thread Sasa Milic

Jim,

point-to-multipoint can be both broadcast and non-broadcast.
In case it is configured as broadcast (default when you
configure 'ip ospf network point-to-multipoint), it will
treat interface as collection of point-to-point links and will
use multicast, just as on point-to-point link. If it is
configured as non-broadcast, with:

  ip ospf network point-to-multipoint non-broadcast

it will use unicast, and you have to configure neighbors.
See page 566 for example.

Sasa


Jim Bond wrote:
> 
> On Jeff Doyle's TCP/IP volume I, P417 it says
> point-to-multipoint is multicast; P433 it says it's
> unicast. Which one is correct?




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Re: Problem with Etherchannel [7:23692]

2001-10-21 Thread Carroll Kong

Yeah, sorry for the misinformation before.  Here is the a good way 
to remember the modes.  The most part, PaGP is either auto or 
desirable.  Or you can just turn the pesky thing on or 
off.  (non-PaGp).  Of course it will only work if you are both on if you 
choose the non-PaGp mode.  As for knowing the right compatibility, remember 
that desirable people are also aggressive.  :)  Two aggressive people can 
communicate.  Auto is passive.  Two passive people cannot communicate.  One 
aggressive and one passive can communicate as well.  Just think of an 
aggressive desirable as those players.  (male or female).  Those nice guys 
and girls who are passive just never get with anyone.  :)  Sorry, I just 
immediately jumped the gun and assumed you chose the two passive case 
without really reading carefully and remembering my own rules.  :(  Very 
bad form, I do not blame anyone for not believing me after such a blunder.

 You cannot do both as desirable.  One must be desirable and the 
other auto.  Or you can try forcing the modes to "on" and "on".  That might 
fix it!

At 12:57 PM 10/21/01 -0400, Brad Moss wrote:
>I am trying to connect two cat5500s and am unable to get port channel to
>come online.  I have configured both sides below is the config of the ports.
>Any help would be greatly appreciated. These are production switches the
>only thing I have to done is reboot them.  For some reason they are not
>recognizing that they are connect to the same switch on the other end of
>either link. I am unaware on any "special" things that must happen for port
>channeling both blades support it.
>
>
>Set po channel 8/3-4 mode desirable
>Set trunk 8/3 isl on
>Set trunk 8/4 isl on
>
>Set po channel 1/1-2 desirable
>Set trunk 1/1 isl on
>Set trunk 1/2  isl on
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - -
>---
>  8/3 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>
>Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
>  Mode Group Id
>- --  - -
>  8/3  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - -
>---
>  8/4 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
>  Mode Group Id
>- --  - -
>  8/4  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
>
>SJMDFSW01> (enable) sho po channel
>No ports channeling
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - -
>---
>  1/1  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>
>Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
> mode  status  device   
port
>- -- - --- - --
>  1/1  connected  desirable not channel
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - -
>---
>  1/2  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>
>Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
>  mode  status  device
>port
>- -- - --- - --
>  1/2  connected  desirable not channel
>
>SJDCSW02> (enable) sho po channel
>No ports channelling
>
>
>Brad Moss,  CCNA
>Network Administrator
>CHRISTUS St. Joseph's Medical Center - South
>www.christushealth.org
>(903) 737-3160
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Problem with Etherchannel [7:23692]

2001-10-21 Thread Gareth Hinton

Ports can form an EtherChannel when they are in different channel modes as
long as the modes are compatible. For example:

  a.. A port in desirable mode can form an EtherChannel successfully with
another port that is in desirable or auto mode.
  b.. A port in auto mode can form an EtherChannel with another port in
desirable mode.
  c.. A port in auto mode cannot form an EtherChannel with another port that
is also in auto mode, since neither port will initiate negotiation.
  d.. A port in on mode can form a channel only with a port in on mode,
because ports in on mode do not exchange PAgP packets.
  e.. A port in off mode will not form a channel with any port.
Copied from http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/793/lan_switching/6.html

The first one suggests your desirable - desirable would be good.

Gaz



""Carroll Kong""  wrote in message
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> You cannot do both as desirable.  One must be desirable and the
> other auto.  Or you can try forcing the modes to "on" and "on".  That
might
> fix it!
>
> At 12:57 PM 10/21/01 -0400, Brad Moss wrote:
> >I am trying to connect two cat5500s and am unable to get port channel to
> >come online.  I have configured both sides below is the config of the
ports.
> >Any help would be greatly appreciated. These are production switches the
> >only thing I have to done is reboot them.  For some reason they are not
> >recognizing that they are connect to the same switch on the other end of
> >either link. I am unaware on any "special" things that must happen for
port
> >channeling both blades support it.
> >
> >
> >Set po channel 8/3-4 mode desirable
> >Set trunk 8/3 isl on
> >Set trunk 8/4 isl on
> >
> >Set po channel 1/1-2 desirable
> >Set trunk 1/1 isl on
> >Set trunk 1/2  isl on
> >
> >Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
> >---
> >  8/3 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
> 100BaseFX
> >MM
> >
> >Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
> >  Mode Group Id
> >- --  - -
> >  8/3  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
> >
> >Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
> >---
> >  8/4 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
> 100BaseFX
> >MM
> >Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
> >  Mode Group Id
> >- --  - -
> >  8/4  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
> >
> >SJMDFSW01> (enable) sho po channel
> >No ports channeling
> >
> >Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
> >---
> >  1/1  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
> 100BaseFX
> >MM
> >
> >Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
> > mode  status  device
> port
>
>- -- - --- - --
> >  1/1  connected  desirable not channel
> >
> >Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
> >---
> >  1/2  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
> 100BaseFX
> >MM
> >
> >Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
> >  mode  status  device
> >port
>
>- -- - --- - --
> >  1/2  connected  desirable not channel
> >
> >SJDCSW02> (enable) sho po channel
> >No ports channelling
> >
> >
> >Brad Moss,  CCNA
> >Network Administrator
> >CHRISTUS St. Joseph's Medical Center - South
> >www.christushealth.org
> >(903) 737-3160
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -Carroll Kong




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Re: Problem with Etherchannel [7:23692]

2001-10-21 Thread Gareth Hinton

What does "show port capabilities" show you Brad?



""Brad Moss""  wrote in message
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> I am trying to connect two cat5500s and am unable to get port channel to
> come online.  I have configured both sides below is the config of the
ports.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. These are production switches the
> only thing I have to done is reboot them.  For some reason they are not
> recognizing that they are connect to the same switch on the other end of
> either link. I am unaware on any "special" things that must happen for
port
> channeling both blades support it.
>
>
> Set po channel 8/3-4 mode desirable
> Set trunk 8/3 isl on
> Set trunk 8/4 isl on
>
> Set po channel 1/1-2 desirable
> Set trunk 1/1 isl on
> Set trunk 1/2  isl on
>
> Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
> - -- -- -- -- -- - ---
--
> ---
>  8/3 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
> MM
>
> Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
>  Mode Group Id
> - --  - -
>  8/3  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
>
> Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
> - -- -- -- -- -- - ---
--
> ---
>  8/4 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
> MM
> Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
>  Mode Group Id
> - --  - -
>  8/4  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
>
> SJMDFSW01> (enable) sho po channel
> No ports channeling
>
> Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
> - -- -- -- -- -- - ---
--
> ---
>  1/1  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
> MM
>
> Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
> mode  status  device
port
> - -- - --- - -
-
>  1/1  connected  desirable not channel
>
> Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
> - -- -- -- -- -- - ---
--
> ---
>  1/2  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
> MM
>
> Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
>  mode  status  device
> port
> - -- - --- - -
-
>  1/2  connected  desirable not channel
>
> SJDCSW02> (enable) sho po channel
> No ports channelling
>
>
> Brad Moss,  CCNA
> Network Administrator
> CHRISTUS St. Joseph's Medical Center - South
> www.christushealth.org
> (903) 737-3160
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: Reading the show int token ring command [7:23640]

2001-10-21 Thread Fred Ingham

Right.  One thing that is a little out is BW 4000MB and ring speed 16
Mbps.

Fred

Dennis Laganiere wrote:
> 
> I just wanted to double-check myself.  The line #9 from the following "show
> interface token-ring 0" output says...
> 
> 1.) TokenRing 0 is up, line protocol is up
> 2.) Hardware is Dual Token Ring, address is .3080.5fca (bia
> .3080.5fca)
> 3.) Internet address is 1.0.0.7, subnet mask is 255.0.0.0
> 4.) MTU 8136 bytes, BW 4000 Kbit, DLY 630 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255
> 5.) Encapsulation SNAP, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec)
> 6.) ARP type:  SNAP, ARP Timeout 4:00:00
> 7.) Ring speed:  16 Mbps
> 8.) Single ring node, Source Route Transparent Bridge capable
> 9.) Source bridging enable, srn 1 bn 2 trn 1000 (ring group)
> 10.) Proxy explorers disable, spanning explorer enabled, NetBIOS cache
> disable
> 11.) Group Address:  0x, Functional Address:  0x011A
> 
> local ring number - 1
> bridge number - 2
> ring group - 1000
> 
> Right?
> 
> --- Dennis




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RE: Problem with Etherchannel [7:23692]

2001-10-21 Thread Brad Moss

Thanks.. I also found another problem in the sho config all
The vlans on 1/1 and 1/2 are different. I did not realize it until I tried
to force the channel on and it told me so. I assumed they were the same
looking at the sho po when it said trunk.
Thanks again.

Brad Moss CCNA

-Original Message-
From: Carroll Kong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 1:14 PM
To: Brad Moss
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem with Etherchannel [7:23692]

 You cannot do both as desirable.  One must be desirable and the
other auto.  Or you can try forcing the modes to "on" and "on".  That might
fix it!

At 12:57 PM 10/21/01 -0400, Brad Moss wrote:
>I am trying to connect two cat5500s and am unable to get port channel to
>come online.  I have configured both sides below is the config of the
ports.
>Any help would be greatly appreciated. These are production switches the
>only thing I have to done is reboot them.  For some reason they are not
>recognizing that they are connect to the same switch on the other end of
>either link. I am unaware on any "special" things that must happen for port
>channeling both blades support it.
>
>
>Set po channel 8/3-4 mode desirable
>Set trunk 8/3 isl on
>Set trunk 8/4 isl on
>
>Set po channel 1/1-2 desirable
>Set trunk 1/1 isl on
>Set trunk 1/2  isl on
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
>---
>  8/3 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>
>Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
>  Mode Group Id
>- --  - -
>  8/3  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
>---
>  8/4 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
>  Mode Group Id
>- --  - -
>  8/4  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
>
>SJMDFSW01> (enable) sho po channel
>No ports channeling
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
>---
>  1/1  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>
>Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
> mode  status  device
port
>- -- - --- - --
>  1/1  connected  desirable not channel
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - 
-
>---
>  1/2  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>
>Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
>  mode  status  device
>port
>- -- - --- - --
>  1/2  connected  desirable not channel
>
>SJDCSW02> (enable) sho po channel
>No ports channelling
>
>
>Brad Moss,  CCNA
>Network Administrator
>CHRISTUS St. Joseph's Medical Center - South
>www.christushealth.org
>(903) 737-3160
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Carroll Kong




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Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread Gareth Hinton

The reason I asked was to see if other peoples impression was the same as
mine. I've got the tools for the level 7 passwords, but was under the
impression that the enable secret was almost impossible.
I do some work for a fairly large company that had some penetration testing
done this week by a government agency.
One of the "hackers" told me that depending on the length and complexity of
the password he could crack the enable password from the MD5 hash pretty
quickly.
The passwords we normally use for enable secrets are over 8 character random
alphanumeric strings, so it was taking some time.
Not believing him entirely, I suggested that I simplify the password a
little to a dictionary word of 7 characters. I changed it to "kittens" and
it took his unix box around 5 seconds to go through the dictionary
performing MD5 hash on every word, then comparing the result with the real
hash.

I was quite surprised at how quick it was. Admittedly they need to see the
MD5 hash somehow, but I've never gone over the top to cover these up before
now.

We also (a little carelessly) got caught out with a few switches with "IP
HTTP SERVER" on as default, so the weakness with http allowed level 15
access to the switches. Oops.

Just thought I'd bring it up anyway. I think "no ip http server" and more
complex passwords are in order.


Regards,

Gareth

""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> The enable secret would not be an easy thing to crack.  The enable
password,
> however, can be cracked easily with a number of utilities available for
free
> on the internet.
>
> If you have hackers attacking your network who have the capability to
crack
> the enable secret then you have much bigger problems.
>
> As I recall, the enable secret displayed when you do a show run is a
one-way
> hash, so the original cannot be determined from the encrypted version.
I'll
> have to check into that.
>
> A good hacker would spend his time elsewhere.  Sitting at the login prompt
> trying to guess passwords for a few years probably isn't a wise way to
spend
> one's time.  Hackers tend to go for the low-hanging fruit.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 09:13:35 -0400, Gareth Hinton wrote:
>
> |  Hi all,
> |
> |  I'm asking this as a matter of interest after something I saw this
week:
> |  Given the following line of config:
> |
> |  enable secret 5 $1$32Pc$uq7Tr7gq4v22PqEG4WFF90
> |
> |  What are the chances of cracking the enable secret?  (Without raising
> |  suspicicion by having 40 million attempts on the box itself.)
> |  Lets say the password is an 8 character string of letters only, not
> |  necessarily a dictionary word.
> |
> |  What's everybody's view, could it be easily hacked or not?
> |
> |
> |  Thanks,
> |
> |  Gaz
> |
> |
> |
> |
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Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread Anh Lam

>From what I understand, the enable secret is MD5 encrypted.  If my memory 
serves me right, the password file on Linux system (/etc/shadow)is also md5 
encrypted.  If that is the case, there are utilities on the
Internet that can be used to crack this baby.  Granted that it is going to 
require memory and CPU power but it is not as difficult as it sounds.  
That's the reason why the /etc/shadow file on unix system is read/writable 
only by root.




>From: "John Neiberger" 
>Reply-To: "John Neiberger" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]
>Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 12:45:19 -0400
>
>The enable secret would not be an easy thing to crack.  The enable 
>password,
>however, can be cracked easily with a number of utilities available for 
>free
>on the internet.
>
>If you have hackers attacking your network who have the capability to crack
>the enable secret then you have much bigger problems.
>
>As I recall, the enable secret displayed when you do a show run is a 
>one-way
>hash, so the original cannot be determined from the encrypted version.  
>I'll
>have to check into that.
>
>A good hacker would spend his time elsewhere.  Sitting at the login prompt
>trying to guess passwords for a few years probably isn't a wise way to 
>spend
>one's time.  Hackers tend to go for the low-hanging fruit.
>
>Regards,
>John
>
>On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 09:13:35 -0400, Gareth Hinton wrote:
>
>|  Hi all,
>|
>|  I'm asking this as a matter of interest after something I saw this week:
>|  Given the following line of config:
>|
>|  enable secret 5 $1$32Pc$uq7Tr7gq4v22PqEG4WFF90
>|
>|  What are the chances of cracking the enable secret?  (Without raising
>|  suspicicion by having 40 million attempts on the box itself.)
>|  Lets say the password is an 8 character string of letters only, not
>|  necessarily a dictionary word.
>|
>|  What's everybody's view, could it be easily hacked or not?
>|
>|
>|  Thanks,
>|
>|  Gaz
>|
>|
>|
>|
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Re: Problem with Etherchannel [7:23692]

2001-10-21 Thread Carroll Kong

You cannot do both as desirable.  One must be desirable and the 
other auto.  Or you can try forcing the modes to "on" and "on".  That might 
fix it!

At 12:57 PM 10/21/01 -0400, Brad Moss wrote:
>I am trying to connect two cat5500s and am unable to get port channel to
>come online.  I have configured both sides below is the config of the ports.
>Any help would be greatly appreciated. These are production switches the
>only thing I have to done is reboot them.  For some reason they are not
>recognizing that they are connect to the same switch on the other end of
>either link. I am unaware on any "special" things that must happen for port
>channeling both blades support it.
>
>
>Set po channel 8/3-4 mode desirable
>Set trunk 8/3 isl on
>Set trunk 8/4 isl on
>
>Set po channel 1/1-2 desirable
>Set trunk 1/1 isl on
>Set trunk 1/2  isl on
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - -
>---
>  8/3 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>
>Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
>  Mode Group Id
>- --  - -
>  8/3  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - -
>---
>  8/4 connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
>  Mode Group Id
>- --  - -
>  8/4  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0
>
>SJMDFSW01> (enable) sho po channel
>No ports channeling
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - -
>---
>  1/1  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>
>Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
> mode  status  device   
port
>- -- - --- - --
>  1/1  connected  desirable not channel
>
>Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
>- -- -- -- -- -- - -
>---
>  1/2  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100
100BaseFX
>MM
>
>Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
>  mode  status  device
>port
>- -- - --- - --
>  1/2  connected  desirable not channel
>
>SJDCSW02> (enable) sho po channel
>No ports channelling
>
>
>Brad Moss,  CCNA
>Network Administrator
>CHRISTUS St. Joseph's Medical Center - South
>www.christushealth.org
>(903) 737-3160
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Problem with Etherchannel [7:23692]

2001-10-21 Thread Brad Moss

I am trying to connect two cat5500s and am unable to get port channel to
come online.  I have configured both sides below is the config of the ports.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. These are production switches the
only thing I have to done is reboot them.  For some reason they are not
recognizing that they are connect to the same switch on the other end of
either link. I am unaware on any "special" things that must happen for port
channeling both blades support it.


Set po channel 8/3-4 mode desirable
Set trunk 8/3 isl on
Set trunk 8/4 isl on

Set po channel 1/1-2 desirable
Set trunk 1/1 isl on
Set trunk 1/2  isl on

Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
- -- -- -- -- -- - -
---
 8/3 connected  trunk  normal   full   100 100BaseFX
MM

Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
 Mode Group Id
- --  - -
 8/3  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0

Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
- -- -- -- -- -- - -
---
 8/4 connected  trunk  normal   full   100 100BaseFX
MM
Port  Status Channel  Admin Ch
 Mode Group Id
- --  - -
 8/4  connected  desirable non-silent   157 0

SJMDFSW01> (enable) sho po channel
No ports channeling

Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
- -- -- -- -- -- - -
---
 1/1  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100 100BaseFX
MM

Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
mode  status  deviceport
- -- - --- - --
 1/1  connected  desirable not channel

Port  Name   Status Vlan   Level  Duplex Speed Type
- -- -- -- -- -- - -
---
 1/2  Uplink SJMDFSW01   connected  trunk  normal   full   100 100BaseFX
MM

Port  Status Channel   Channel Neighbor  Neighbor
 mode  status  device
port
- -- - --- - --
 1/2  connected  desirable not channel

SJDCSW02> (enable) sho po channel
No ports channelling


Brad Moss,  CCNA
Network Administrator
CHRISTUS St. Joseph's Medical Center - South
www.christushealth.org
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Queston about Aironet !!! [7:23691]

2001-10-21 Thread Steiven Poh-\(Jaring MailBox\)

Hi Folks,

Question :

1. What is the transmision rate in Mbs againts distance, meaning that if you
are the only user on the AP will the data transfer rate degrade when you are
getting far away from the AP.
2. What is the max distance from AP to workstation.
3. If your server is runing DHCP, AP set to be static, will the cleint be
able
to get dynamic IP.
4. Is there any integration between the Aironet systems with the barcode
wireless systems which is also Aironet(2Mbps).
5. How to explain on the Beacon receive show on the Aironet program when we
perform signal strength monitoring. Which the signal strength degrade againts
distance and the beacon tend to be on 100%.

Looking forward for your reply

Thanks
Steiven




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Re: test [7:23675]

2001-10-21 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

Are you posting by mail ?  There was a problem with some mail a few days
back due to a system upgrade I believe.


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>
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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread Ken Diliberto

I am participating in a study group at Cisco here in the Dallas area.  Even
the Cisco Engineers in the group are there for their own edification to help
them pass.  I know if I had access to the lab equipment all the time like
they
do, I would be feeling fairly confident.  I haven't even attempted the
written
yet but I have years worth of router time in a production environment.  The
number of CCIEs get depressing if you look at them for too long.  Just keep
looking at dice.com, hotjobs.com and such for jobs requiring a CCIE.  Keeps
me
interested.  :-)

Ken

>>> "Thomas Larus"  10/21/01 10:52AM >>>
I wouldn't worry too much about the raw numbers.  A lot of these supposed
1700 a month are VERY good at memorization, and have not touched routers and
switches for more than 10 or 12 hours altogether.  I have trouble believing
the number is quite that high, because the lab dates do not seem to be
getting booked up anywhere near that fast.  People haven't a prayer of
passing the CCIE Lab until they get many hundreds or perhaps a thousand or
two thousand hours of work configuring routers and switches.

It is a long road, and I am still a long way from getting to the CCIE Lab
milestone myself, but the journey itself is very satisfying.

Thomas Larus

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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread Gareth Hinton

"ccie r catching up with ...mcse now"


That's a bit of a wild inaccurate statement.

I reckon after doing my CCNP it wouldn't take too long to get past the CCIE
written with 4 to 6 weeks good study.
I reckon the CCIE Lab could take me a year or more of hard work to get
anywhere near it, if ever.
I am looking at the doing the MCSE to broaden the knowledge a little.
Looking through the syllabus I am looking at around 6 weeks of study with
odd breaks in between.

MCSE and CCIE will never be comparable.
It amuses me when people do compare them.
I think "CCIE written" is a little misleading - As far as I'm concerned its
a fairly testing written exam to stop time wasters taking what is the real
CCIE exam - The LAB.


My two penneth...


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Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread John Neiberger

The enable secret would not be an easy thing to crack.  The enable password,
however, can be cracked easily with a number of utilities available for free
on the internet.

If you have hackers attacking your network who have the capability to crack
the enable secret then you have much bigger problems. 

As I recall, the enable secret displayed when you do a show run is a one-way
hash, so the original cannot be determined from the encrypted version.  I'll
have to check into that.

A good hacker would spend his time elsewhere.  Sitting at the login prompt
trying to guess passwords for a few years probably isn't a wise way to spend
one's time.  Hackers tend to go for the low-hanging fruit.

Regards,
John

On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 09:13:35 -0400, Gareth Hinton wrote:

|  Hi all,
|  
|  I'm asking this as a matter of interest after something I saw this week:
|  Given the following line of config:
|  
|  enable secret 5 $1$32Pc$uq7Tr7gq4v22PqEG4WFF90
|  
|  What are the chances of cracking the enable secret?  (Without raising
|  suspicicion by having 40 million attempts on the box itself.)
|  Lets say the password is an 8 character string of letters only, not
|  necessarily a dictionary word.
|  
|  What's everybody's view, could it be easily hacked or not?
|  
|  
|  Thanks,
|  
|  Gaz
|  
|  
|  
|  
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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

I wholeheartedly agree.  I'm just starting out in the industry and having
seen some CCIE practice questions, I wonder why this is such an
accomplishment for some.  The written is not that much harder than the CCNP
tests (someone with a few weeks and good books on their hands can pass the
written).  Lets remember that there are less than 7000 CCIEs worldwide.
1700 people may pass the written , but its unlikely that more than 2-3 %
take or pass the written within one year.

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> 1700 a month are VERY good at memorization, and have not touched routers
and
> switches for more than 10 or 12 hours altogether.  I have trouble
believing
> the number is quite that high, because the lab dates do not seem to be
> getting booked up anywhere near that fast.  People haven't a prayer of
> passing the CCIE Lab until they get many hundreds or perhaps a thousand or
> two thousand hours of work configuring routers and switches.
>
> It is a long road, and I am still a long way from getting to the CCIE Lab
> milestone myself, but the journey itself is very satisfying.
>
> Thomas Larus
>
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Re: test [7:23675]

2001-10-21 Thread Tim Booth

> My most recent post (an anwer to ITGuy's acl query) didn't appear. this is
a test.

I've had problems with missing posts as well

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Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread Thomas Larus

I wouldn't worry too much about the raw numbers.  A lot of these supposed
1700 a month are VERY good at memorization, and have not touched routers and
switches for more than 10 or 12 hours altogether.  I have trouble believing
the number is quite that high, because the lab dates do not seem to be
getting booked up anywhere near that fast.  People haven't a prayer of
passing the CCIE Lab until they get many hundreds or perhaps a thousand or
two thousand hours of work configuring routers and switches.

It is a long road, and I am still a long way from getting to the CCIE Lab
milestone myself, but the journey itself is very satisfying.

Thomas Larus

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RE: Word of Caution [7:23363]

2001-10-21 Thread Anh Lam

Rick hit it right on the head.  I take an apology from a "sale" guy with a 
grain of salt.  Robert, why don't you do the honorable thing and sell to 
debbie what she bidded for when she placed the order?  I teach networking a 
a community college and I have a lot of students asking me where they can 
purchase networking gears.  One thing I will tell them for sure is to "stay 
away" from www.itparade.com.  As Rick has mentioned before, we don't judge 
people by their mistakes, we judge people on how they correct them.  If 
memory serves me right, I remembered a few months back United Airlines 
mistakenly posted on their
web sites flying coast to coast for $1.00.  Guess what happened, United 
Airlines has to honor it because it is the "right thing to do".  In this 
case, we have a sale guy try to come up with a lame excuse that their system 
was not functioning properly at the time the customer placed orders.  
Believe me, in this age of instant messaging, www.itparade.com will be the 
place that networking folks stay away when it comes to purchasing 
equipments.




>From: "Rik Guyler" 
>Reply-To: "Rik Guyler" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Word of Caution [7:23363]
>Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 10:20:56 -0400
>
>While I don't judge people by their mistakes, I do tend to judge them by 
>how
>they correct them.  Was it Debbie's fault your systems went down?  No.  I
>don't pretend to live in a world where malfunctions don't happen, but when
>your "systems" take a crap you should be ready to deal with the fallout.
>
>Seems to me that just eating the $500 would have been cheaper than having 
>to
>now clean up the mess and deal with the lost revenue of many, such as
>myself, that will never buy anything from you.  Besides, it would appear
>that Debbie's bad experience was hardly the first according to other 
>members
>of our group and we just don't need crap like that to deal with, especially
>since we have quality vendors like Brad Ellis (Big Brad!) to work with
>instead.  Before you ask, I don't work with Brad in any way...I am a
>customer only.
>
>Rik "Buy Only From Brad" Guyler
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Robert Davie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:43 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Word of Caution [7:23363]
>
>
>I would like to respond to a message (below) that went out over a 
>GroupStudy
>mailing list regarding our company.
>
>When our system is functioning properly (99%) we have two mechanisms that
>work that were not working when Debbie placed her order:
>   1.. A guard against low-ball offers for items that have sale prices.  
>This
>guard prevents offers of less than 80% of the sale price.  (Debbie's offer
>was $100 for a $600 item.)
>   2.. Order Acceptance.  This was malfunctioning and accepting orders that
>were being declined. After explaining this to Debbie, who appears to be a
>very knowledgeable and market savvy person, we felt that the system
>malfunction would garner her understanding.
>
>She threatened to send out an email to the GroupStudy mailing list if we 
>did
>not fulfill the order, and we indicated that we would respond to her email
>message.
>
>Having been in sales all my life and career and with happy customers 
>ranging
>from AT&T to Sun Microsystems, I feel this is a very unfortunate 
>occurrence.
>
>Robert Davie
>EVP
>Ph: 919-388-9993 x3102
>Fax: 919-388-9992
>ITParade.com, Inc.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Debbie Westall
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:08 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: OT: A Word of Caution about Vendor [7:23244]
>
>Greetings,
>
>I wanted to give everyone a heads-up on the list about
>a vendor I recently dealt with over the Internet.
>
>The web site is www.itparade.com.
>
>They are a site that acts as a "middleman" for sellers
>of equipment.
>
>Last week I put an offer on a router (2501). I admit
>the offer was very low, but I had never used this site
>so I figured "why not". A couple of hours later I
>received an email from them saying that my offer was
>accepted by the seller and I was to log on to another
>site to make payment arrangements. I logged into
>PitNeyPay.com to add my credit card info as requested.
>The next day I received a phone call from a person at
>itparade, saying they have pulled my offer, that the
>seller actually rejected my offer but itparade's web
>site was "broken" so the email went out incorrectly.
>The person at itparade, also mentioned that the seller
>would be more than happy to sell me that piece of
>equipment for 600.00 rather than my offer. Which would
>have been more than double my initial offer. Needless
>to say, I rejected that.
>
>I spoke to the Executive VP and the CEO of the company
>to no avail. They will not stand behind the email that
>came to me that my offer was accepted.
>
>Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up to STAY AWAY
>from this site. If it sounds to good to be true, it
>probably is

2611 [7:23681]

2001-10-21 Thread Julius Bingham

I just got DSL.  I have a 2611 and want to use this as
a firewall since this is a 24X7X365 connection.  I
found out my DSL router changes the IP every 24hours. 
I have found a command that allows me to receive an IP
address on E0 or E1, which ever I choose as the
outside interface, and want to know if I am on the
right track.  I know it is probably not recommended,
but this is all I have and would like to work with it.
 If this is cool, can I also utilize NAT/PAT and just
specify ethernetX instead of a static IP?  Any help
and constructive comments would be appreciated.


Julius

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Re: Netsys Baseliner [7:23611]

2001-10-21 Thread Geoff Zinderdine

AFAIK, this product is now WANDL IPAT at http://www.wandl.com
Not sure if there are any eval CDs for it.

Geoff Zinderdine

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> I am trying to find information about the Netsys Baseliner, as far as I
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> it is an EoL product and not available anymore. I know that there once was
> an evaluation CD; does anybody know if that CD is still available, or can
I
> get it from somebody ? Or is somebody willing to sell his or her version
> (NT) to me ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Hans
>
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over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]

2001-10-21 Thread Hello Hello

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Re: OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread Craig Columbus

There are several tools available to reverse the standard cisco password 
encryption.  However, the output that you show for enable secret isn't the 
standard encrypted password; rather, it's the output of a one-way hash on 
the password (the whole point of enable secret).  So, I'd say that the 
chances of cracking the enable secret without some serious horsepower are 
rather slim.

Craig

At 09:13 AM 10/21/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm asking this as a matter of interest after something I saw this week:
>Given the following line of config:
>
>enable secret 5 $1$32Pc$uq7Tr7gq4v22PqEG4WFF90
>
>What are the chances of cracking the enable secret?  (Without raising
>suspicicion by having 40 million attempts on the box itself.)
>Lets say the password is an 8 character string of letters only, not
>necessarily a dictionary word.
>
>What's everybody's view, could it be easily hacked or not?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Gaz




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RE: Word of Caution [7:23363]

2001-10-21 Thread Rik Guyler

While I don't judge people by their mistakes, I do tend to judge them by how
they correct them.  Was it Debbie's fault your systems went down?  No.  I
don't pretend to live in a world where malfunctions don't happen, but when
your "systems" take a crap you should be ready to deal with the fallout.  

Seems to me that just eating the $500 would have been cheaper than having to
now clean up the mess and deal with the lost revenue of many, such as
myself, that will never buy anything from you.  Besides, it would appear
that Debbie's bad experience was hardly the first according to other members
of our group and we just don't need crap like that to deal with, especially
since we have quality vendors like Brad Ellis (Big Brad!) to work with
instead.  Before you ask, I don't work with Brad in any way...I am a
customer only.

Rik "Buy Only From Brad" Guyler

-Original Message-
From: Robert Davie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Word of Caution [7:23363]


I would like to respond to a message (below) that went out over a GroupStudy
mailing list regarding our company.

When our system is functioning properly (99%) we have two mechanisms that
work that were not working when Debbie placed her order:
  1.. A guard against low-ball offers for items that have sale prices.  This
guard prevents offers of less than 80% of the sale price.  (Debbie's offer
was $100 for a $600 item.)
  2.. Order Acceptance.  This was malfunctioning and accepting orders that
were being declined. After explaining this to Debbie, who appears to be a
very knowledgeable and market savvy person, we felt that the system
malfunction would garner her understanding.

She threatened to send out an email to the GroupStudy mailing list if we did
not fulfill the order, and we indicated that we would respond to her email
message.

Having been in sales all my life and career and with happy customers ranging
from AT&T to Sun Microsystems, I feel this is a very unfortunate occurrence.

Robert Davie
EVP
Ph: 919-388-9993 x3102
Fax: 919-388-9992
ITParade.com, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Debbie Westall
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: A Word of Caution about Vendor [7:23244]

Greetings,

I wanted to give everyone a heads-up on the list about
a vendor I recently dealt with over the Internet.

The web site is www.itparade.com.

They are a site that acts as a "middleman" for sellers
of equipment.

Last week I put an offer on a router (2501). I admit
the offer was very low, but I had never used this site
so I figured "why not". A couple of hours later I
received an email from them saying that my offer was
accepted by the seller and I was to log on to another
site to make payment arrangements. I logged into
PitNeyPay.com to add my credit card info as requested.
The next day I received a phone call from a person at
itparade, saying they have pulled my offer, that the
seller actually rejected my offer but itparade's web
site was "broken" so the email went out incorrectly.
The person at itparade, also mentioned that the seller
would be more than happy to sell me that piece of
equipment for 600.00 rather than my offer. Which would
have been more than double my initial offer. Needless
to say, I rejected that.

I spoke to the Executive VP and the CEO of the company
to no avail. They will not stand behind the email that
came to me that my offer was accepted.

Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up to STAY AWAY
from this site. If it sounds to good to be true, it
probably is..

Has anyone used them before or heard of them.

Thanks

Debbie


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RE: Doyle Chap:14 Config Q.1 [7:23648]

2001-10-21 Thread Mark Morenz

Trying this post again...

Basically, the wildcard mask's 1 bits are the bits that will be ignored in
the ip address.

172.16.1.0 0.0.0.127
and 
172.16.1.128 0.0.0.127

both refer to all addresses that share the same bit-structure for the first
25 bits...in the first case the 25th bit is a 1, in the second the 25th bit
is a zero. Between the two acl's that use these two ip/mask combinations,
you would be screening out the entire 172.16.1/24 anyway, so I would
recommend that you use an acl with: "172.16.1.0 0.0.0.255".

HTH

:-{)]

Mark A. Morenz, MS Ed, CCNA, CCAI


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test [7:23675]

2001-10-21 Thread Mark Morenz

My most recent post (an anwer to ITGuy's acl query) didn't appear. this is a
test.

:-{)]


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Re: IOS upgrade problem - 2621 [7:23526]

2001-10-21 Thread Circusnuts

I haven't lost code in a 2600 or 3600 lately, but if I recall correctly I
had to use Xmodem.  Follow the instructions to change the HyperTerminal
speed to 115200 @ ROMMON & pull the file through your console connection.
If it's a large image, pull some smaller IP version that will allow you to
use the interfaces for you final upload.

All the best !!!
Phil

- Original Message -
From: "kwock99" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: IOS upgrade problem - 2621 [7:23526]


> I have tried to use the tftpdnld at the rommon> prompt and get the
following
> error massage:
>
> "Please reset before executing this command"
>
> I key in all the parameter (IP address, tftp server address, etc). After
> reset, I issue the command tftpdnld, and get the same error message again.
>
> Any idea to solve this problem? Thanks.
>
> Francis
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Neiberger"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 12:23 AM
> Subject: Re: IOS upgrade problem - 2621 [7:23526]
>
>
> > If the router will not boot then you must do this from rommon mode.
> > When the router is attempting to boot, issue a break using whichever
> > keys your terminal software expects.  When you get to a prompt, type
> > tftpdnld in lowercase.  This will show you a list of variables that need
> > to be set for a tftp transfer to work properly.  Connect the ethernet
> > port on the router to your network (or laptop, or whatever has a valid
> > image), set the necessary variables, and then type tftpdnld again.
> >
> > If all variables are set correctly the router will now begin a tftp
> > transfer.  When it is finished, type "i" or "reset" to reboot the
> > router.
> >
> > HTH,
> > John
> >
> > >>> "kwock99"  10/19/01 9:57:44 AM >>>
> > I have upgraded the Router with the other IOS. After I download it to
> > the
> > router and it saved the new IOS to the flash successfully.
> >
> > After I power up the router, I get the error that the router does not
> > have
> > enought memory to run IOS. Anyone knows how to erase the new IOS and
> > tftp
> > back
> > the "old" IOS to the router (2621).
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Francis




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Re: IPSec and IKE [7:23599]

2001-10-21 Thread Circusnuts

Lee- I'm not sure if you realize that you're asking about a feature of
IPSec.  IKE stands for Internet Key Exchange and is a part of the Cisco
IPSec process.  I have a Cisco PDF from a class I took a year or so ago.
Let me know if you are interested...

All the best !!!
Phil

- Original Message -
From: "Keyur Shah" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: IPSec and IKE [7:23599]


> In a nutshell,
>
> IPSEC is encryption methodology open standard. IPSEC SAs can be configured
> using IKE or manual keying. IKE saves time and manual work in hub and
spoke
> configurations. It is an algorithm that uses policy to determine matching
> parameters with the other side. In absence of IKE, you would have to
> configure each parameter manually on all participating routers and
clients.
>
> IKE is called phase I negotiation, which ensures that peer is who it says
it
> is.
>
>  -Keyur Shah-
> CCIE# 4799 (Security; Routing and Switching)
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>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hunt Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: IPSec and IKE [7:23599]
>
>
> Can anyone please explain to me what is the difference between IPSec and
> IKE? I understand that IP Sec is just IP Security, which provides IP
network
> layer encryption and authentication to end-to-end security on an
> infrastructure, but what's IKE?  I read the Cisco MCNS book from Chapter
15
> to 17 many times, yet I'm still very confused.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Best Regards,
> Hunt




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Re: Cisco Power Adapter Recall [7:23645]

2001-10-21 Thread Circusnuts

Wow- great research Brad !!!

I just checked my 506 power supply # it's OK...
Phil

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 11:10 PM
Subject: OT: Cisco Power Adapter Recall [7:23645]


> See below:
>
> http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/p/014/01270.htm
>
> "The power adapters were shipped with the following ADSL routers:
>
> Cisco 827
> Cisco 827-4V
> Cisco 826
>
> Cisco SOHO77
> Cisco SOHO77-50
> Cisco 827-EUR"
>
> FYI
>
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796
> Network Learning Inc
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OT: Enable secret hacking [7:23670]

2001-10-21 Thread Gareth Hinton

Hi all,

I'm asking this as a matter of interest after something I saw this week:
Given the following line of config:

enable secret 5 $1$32Pc$uq7Tr7gq4v22PqEG4WFF90

What are the chances of cracking the enable secret?  (Without raising
suspicicion by having 40 million attempts on the box itself.)
Lets say the password is an 8 character string of letters only, not
necessarily a dictionary word.

What's everybody's view, could it be easily hacked or not?


Thanks,

Gaz




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Re: weird termsrv problem [7:23660]

2001-10-21 Thread Circusnuts

Check the placement of your terminal server.  Line noise will cause this
problem.  Sho Line should give you some indication, under the noise column.
I actually had Cisco warranty out a 2511 for this problem, only to find
moving it away from my 4000's & grounding the rack was the fix.

All the best !!!
Phil

- Original Message -
From: "Duy Nguyen" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 3:43 AM
Subject: Re: weird termsrv problem [7:23660]


> My guess is the port could be bad.
>
> Absolutely Positively Continuously Sincerely,
>
>
> Duy NguyenCCNP/CCIE written
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cell (817) 707-7451
>
>
>
> >From: "routerjocky"
> >Reply-To: "routerjocky"
> >To:
> >CC:
> >Subject: weird termsrv problem
> >Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 00:05:16 -0700
> >
> >I'm having a strange problem with my homelab 2511.  Telnet sessions to
the
> >terminal server just drop unexpectedly.  No rhyme or reason to it.  A
> >'clear
> >arp' command (from the console) allows me to access the terminal server
> >again.
> >No errors on the e0 interface are being generated.  I've tried changing
the
> >transceiver, cable, and moving to a different hub port, but none of those
> >changes seem to solve the problem.  One of the weirdest 'flaky' problems
> >that
> >I've ever seen, and terribly frustrating because I can't diagnose the
> >problem
> >from the router.  (next step: sniff the network)
> >
> >Has anyone seen this kind of behavior before?
> >
> >If so, what was the solution?
> >
> >If not, what's your best guess at what the problem could be?
> >
> >thanks in advance
> >-e-
> >May the route be with you
> >Switch if you must, route if you can  ;-)
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RE: GBIC: WS-G5484 / WS-G5486 [7:22675]

2001-10-21 Thread Rik Guyler

Ole, I apologize for getting back so late!  I went out of town after
originally responding and just returned back.

Actually the 3500 switches support the copper GBIC as well, just make sure
you put a newer IOS on the switch or it won't recognize it.  That's the
beauty of the GBIC design - all are supported in any GBIC slot, which makes
everything so modular.  Going the way you described would be expensive and
I'm not sure even possible.  I have not seen a Gb media converter but that
doesn't mean they don't exist.  In any case, I would stay with the coppper
stuff and save your money.

Rik

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Rik,

I appologize if this question is terribly stupid, but I have zero experience
with fiber communication (yet).

As far as I can see, the available Gigabit modules for the 3500 series are
all fiber, so I assume that I will have to go with fiber, and then get some
kind of a fiber to copper converter too if I wish to use CAT5 (or better)
for the media.

How does your installation look regarding this?

Thanks in advance,

Ole

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Ole, I have installed several Gb Intel cards (no other however) and have had
no real issues.  If you do use these cards, don't use the shipping drivers
(at least for NT) - they are bad news.  Download the latest from their site
and all will be good.  CCO has several papers descibing the issue if you
feel the need.

If you compare the prices of the copper versus the fiber Gb cards, the price
difference is huge - $500-$600 for the fiber cards and less than $200 for
the copper version.  I have installed a few of the fiber variety but
typically the client wants the cheaper alternative.  I have had nothing but
success using existing Cat5 cable.  Cat5e might the "preferred" variety but
the plain ol' Cat5, provided it's terminated, installed, etc. well, should
work fine.

Rik

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Subject: GBIC: WS-G5484 / WS-G5486 [7:22675]


Any success stories about a Catalyst with either of these two GBIC's and an
NT 4.0 server equipped with a Gigabit NIC (brand/model).

Most of the NIC's are around $500.- to $600.-, but there are some around
$100.- to $200.- Are they okay, or just cheap crap with a lot of lost frames
and incompatible drivers?

Also, any happy experiences with Gigabit running over existing CAT5 cables?

I thought that since it has been almost two years since I got my last
speeding ticket, I might as well accelerate a bit (or actually all the
bit's).

Thanks,

Ole

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Re: Network and Broadcast address [7:23632]

2001-10-21 Thread Gareth Hinton

Everybody's showing you the intelligent way, so I thought I'd try showing
you my "Subnetting for dummies" method - Works for me- If you can follow the
explanation, the calculation is childs play (Please excuse all incorrect
network terms used for explanation (broken octets, chunks etc)):

"Say I have a network:  100.10.0.0 255.255.255.192"

The fourth octet is what I call the broken one (the one which isn't 255 or
0)
Take the value of that octet away from 256:

256-192 = 64

This is the size of the network "chunks".
So (using multiples of 64 in the broken 4th octet) we have subnets as
follows:

100.10.0.0 255.255.255.192
100.10.0.64 255.255.255.192
100.10.0.128 255.255.255.192
100.10.0.192 255.255.255.192
100.10.1.0 255.255.255.192
100.10.1.64 255.255.255.192
 etc, etc

These are all the network addresses for the ranges above. The broadcast
addresses are obviously the last address in each network range (one less
than the next network address).
So they would be:

100.10.0.63
100.10.0.127
100.10.0.191
100.10.1.63
100.10.1.127
respectively.

Hope the explanation helps. If it confuses, forget about it for now, but I'm
sure it is the quickest way to work it out.

Regards,

Gaz


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> It would be great if someone can give me a hand on this:  I know how to
> calculate the number of subents and number of hosts per subent, but I'm
> very confused about the Network address and the Broadcast address:
>
> Say I have a network:  100.10.0.0 255.255.255.192:
>
> 1)  To work out the subnet:
>
> 100.10.0.0 is a Class A, so = /8
>
> 255.255.255.192 = /26
>
> Therefore, /26 - /8 = /14,
>
> The number of subnets = 2^14-2= 16382
>
> 2)  To work out the number of host:
>
> /32 - /26 = /6
>
> The number of hosts = 2^6-2 = 62 hosts per subnets
>
>
> Thanks so much for your help in advance.
>
> Best Regards,
> Hunt Lee




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Re: FW: Console into a 1924-EN Swtich [7:23029]

2001-10-21 Thread Gareth Hinton

The older 1900's are the only ones I've had problems getting into before.
There'll be a post in the archives where I listed the pin-outs.
After messing about with a breakout box, I found that there was a loop
needed between two of the pins on the older 1900's.
I got hold of a genuine 1900 console cable some time after which confirmed
this.
The standard cisco console cable didn't work. If the loop wasn't there it
didn't let me in.
Sorry, can't find more info at the moment.

Gaz

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> Who said you can't use a standard console cable? Infact that is the cable
> you need to use to console in...just like consoling it to any router.
Also,
> the black aux cable will work :-)
>
>
> >From: "David Toalson"
> >Reply-To: "David Toalson"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: FW: Console into a 1924-EN Swtich [7:23029]
> >Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:52:23 -0400
> >
> >Check the archives.  A lot of activity on the 1924 console connectivity
in
> >the last year.  You will want to use a 9 pin "NULL" modem cable to
connect
> >to the console.  You can purchase them at most electronics places for
under
> >$10.00.
> >
> >David Toalson
> >816-701-4142
> >
> > > --
> > > From: Craig Crosby[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Reply To: Craig Crosby
> > > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 9:46 AM
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> > >
> > > I am having trouble logging into my 1924 switch.  It is running
> >Enterprise
> > > firmware code.  I know that you can't use a standard console kit to
get
> > > into
> > > it.  But what are you supposed to use?  Any advice would be much
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > >
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trade ccie material [7:23662]

2001-10-21 Thread Hello Hello

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RTP BUG ? 12.1(5)YB4 [7:23661]

2001-10-21 Thread Chamak

Dear All,

I am using 12.1(5)YB4 realease of Cisco IOS on 1700 platform. I am running
VoIP over the Internet using 64K PPP leased line from my internet service
provider.

interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip address xx.xx.xx.xx 255.255.255.240
 no ip route-cache
 no ip mroute-cache
 speed auto
 full-duplex
!
interface Serial1/0
 bandwidth 64
 ip address xx.xx.xx.xx  255.255.255.252
 no ip route-cache
 no ip mroute-cache
 ip rtp header-compression
 ip rtp priority 16384 16383 40
!

Above is extract from my config. Now I want to enable the rtp header
compression but the problem is that when I enable the it I do not hear
anything. Calls get placed but voice packets are not being sent. Is this a
BUG with the IOS. Since RTP is layer 4 protocol if I am not wrong so I think
my ISP do not need to do anything . My both end to end routers have similar
config and have rtp compression enabled.
Can you please advice me over this. Someone adviced me that the similar bug
was there in the IOS 12.1.5(T). So might be IOS what I am using is having
the same bug.

Thanks and best regards,
Mukul




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Re: weird termsrv problem [7:23660]

2001-10-21 Thread Duy Nguyen

My guess is the port could be bad.

Absolutely Positively Continuously Sincerely,


Duy NguyenCCNP/CCIE written
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>From: "routerjocky" 
>Reply-To: "routerjocky" 
>To: 
>CC: 
>Subject: weird termsrv problem
>Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 00:05:16 -0700
>
>I'm having a strange problem with my homelab 2511.  Telnet sessions to the
>terminal server just drop unexpectedly.  No rhyme or reason to it.  A 
>'clear
>arp' command (from the console) allows me to access the terminal server 
>again.
>No errors on the e0 interface are being generated.  I've tried changing the
>transceiver, cable, and moving to a different hub port, but none of those
>changes seem to solve the problem.  One of the weirdest 'flaky' problems 
>that
>I've ever seen, and terribly frustrating because I can't diagnose the 
>problem
>from the router.  (next step: sniff the network)
>
>Has anyone seen this kind of behavior before?
>
>If so, what was the solution?
>
>If not, what's your best guess at what the problem could be?
>
>thanks in advance
>-e-
>May the route be with you
>Switch if you must, route if you can  ;-)
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RE: How to upgrade the IOS of C2521?! [7:23498]

2001-10-21 Thread Kenneth Yeung

Good to have support from all of you.
The problem is fixed.  It is the config-register that was set to 0x2142
instead of 0x2102.  I have never set this to 0x2142.  Somehow the
config-register was set to wrong value.  Maybe the config-register was
changed to that value when the upgrade failed the first time.
Anyway really fun...I can start my home lab.  
Thanks a ton.



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RE: ospf point-to-multipoint [7:23655]

2001-10-21 Thread adam lee

It looks like on page 433, he's describing a situation where the network
does not have any broadcast capabilities.  Broadcast networks are able to
utilize the multicast feature(224.0.0.5) to send hello packets while NBMA
and point to multipoint will utilize unicast hello packets because they have
had to learn each other by manual configuration(neighbor) or by inverse arp.

I hope I stated it correctly.  You can search for RFC 2178 for further info
or clarification.

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Hello,

On Jeff Doyle's TCP/IP volume I, P417 it says
point-to-multipoint is multicast; P433 it says it's
unicast. Which one is correct?

Thanks in advance.

Jim

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