Re: OT:Microsoft Groupstudy??/support [7:28514]

2001-12-07 Thread NKP

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> Guys,
>
> Aneone  knows if there is any   studygroup or newsgroup for microsoft
> related helps.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom
>
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Re: Subnetting [7:27808]

2001-12-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi

if you are ready to also help me with your pay packet, then contact me and I
will be more than pleased to help you sort this out.

- Original Message -
From: Andy Hutchinson 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:37 AM
Subject: Subnetting [7:27808]


> Can anyone help !
> I have been assigned by our Head Office a Class B address
> (Let's say 172.133.205.0) with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0
> which gives me 254 hosts available.
> However i have to split this between 3 locations
> like so :
>
> Loc A : Minimum Addresses Required 160 (HQ)
> Loc B : Minumum Addresses Required 16
> Loc C : Minumum Addresses Required 48
>
> Loc B & C will each have a router that connects to a router at Loc A.
>
> Any ideas on how this can done ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy Hutchinson
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OT:Microsoft Groupstudy??/support [7:28514]

2001-12-07 Thread IT Guy

Guys,

Aneone  knows if there is any   studygroup or newsgroup for microsoft 
related helps.

Thanks

Tom

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Re: PIX On A PC? [7:28342]

2001-12-07 Thread George Murphy CCNP, CCDP

Thanks John, this makes the light a little brighter. I just need 
practice anyway, so this will do and the price aint bad... Looks like 
its time to browse over to e-bay...

Cheers!

John Kaberna wrote:

>For the cost of buying a new low-end PC you can get a 501.  So, unless you
>need multiple interfaces its not really worth it.  Plus, the 501 can run 6.x
>code and you can't with a 2MB flash card.  Unless you've got a spare PC with
>the required parts lying around your best bet is to probably spend $500
>bucks on a 501. If you do plan on building your own, there's not much more
>to it than building a skeleton PC.  That's why there isn't much more info
>about how to do it.  If you know about basic PC hardware then you can figure
>it out.
>
>John Kaberna
>CCIE #7146
>www.netcginc.com
>(415) 750-3800
>
>
>""Gaz""  wrote in message
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>
>>Has anyone got more details on this please.
>>I've seen various posts but never any details. Usually they die off at the
>>expense of a flash card.
>>I've got a 520 being flash upgraded from 2Mb to 16Mb, so I wouldn't mind
>>having a play with the old 2Mb card if it's a go'er.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Gaz
>>
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>>>Thanks Geoff. I appreciate the reply. I would have never found that.
>>>
>>>Geoff Zinderdine wrote:
>>>
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>Howdy Folks, I have seen some posts before about running PIX on a PC a
>"FrankenPIX" so to speak. Anyone have any references on how to do
>
>this?.
>
>>I
>>
>have a clone box to use but need to know how to steps
>Thanks for any help..
>
Hansang Bae posted this on the lab mailing list a while back, I will

>save
>
him the cut and paste:

Here are the components that make up:

Cisco LocalDirector 430/416
Cisco Pix Firewall  520

 MOTHERBOARD:
Intel Motherboard   SE440BX-2   $ 100

 NETWORK INTERFACE:
Intel Pro100/B 10/100 NIC   PRO100/B$  40
- OR -
Osicom 4 Ethernet Port PCI  OLN-2404TX  $ 900

 ISA FLASH CARD:
16MB ISA Flash Card (PEP)   CISCO - $ 700
- OR -
4MB  ISA Flash Card (??)??  $ --?

hsb




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Re: 6500 IP routing, IPX bridging and routing. [7:28488]

2001-12-07 Thread Andrew Cook

The only way I could see this being done with Hybrid code would be to make 9
VLANs: 8 with 1 IP subnet and 1 IPX network, and 1 with 12 IP subnets and 1
IPX network.  This doesn't take into account security/political issues
arising from combining the IP networks into one broadcast domain.
Incidentally, why can't you break the large IPX network up into multiple
networks and have all of the VLANs follow the same 1 IP-1 IPX model?

Regards,

Andrew

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> Hi all,
>
> I made a right pigs ear of a config today. Managed to get it working
> eventually, but I have a feeling I made a mountain out of a mole hill.
>
> The requirement was a 6500 with MSFC, with around 20 connections to
switches
> such as 3548's, each having a subnet with a 24 bit mask, (so 20 ports, 20
> subnets). 8 of these ports had an IPX network each. The other 12 ports
were
> on the same IPX network (12 ports, 12 subnets, one IPX network).
>
> The initial idea was to use Integrated Routing and Bridging. This led me
to
> creating BVI's which were routing IP, but bridging IPX. When I tried to
add
> VLAN's to the bridge-group the response was something like 'Cannot create
> bridge group with VLAN without including a WAN interface' Apologies for
the
> vagueness, but in terms of the day, that seems about 4 years ago.
>
> No matter what I tried with BVI's, I couldn't get the thing to bridge and
> route IPX.
>
> Someone, who I have now shot :-) suggested trying it with Integrated IOS,
so
> I printed off the 26 pages of instructions to upgrade to Integrated IOS
and
> tried that (eventually - I tried answering the phone constantly throughout
> the upgrade and lost it a few times - Thank God for PCMCIA cards).
>
> With the Integrated IOS, I created BVI's wit IPX addresses, and put the
> relevant ethernet interfaces into the bridge group, and it worked straight
> away.
>
>
> I can't help get the feeling there's an easier way.
>
> Any clues?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gaz




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Re: Cisco Press IDS Book - Recommendation [7:28450]

2001-12-07 Thread John Kaberna

Yes Navin I know what an NFR is.  :)  But, most people do not work for
resellers.  That's why I didn't mention it.  But, I wouldn't pay even 2k for
something I can build for a lot less.  The only reason to pay for one is so
you can get the CD's with 2.5 and 3.0 on them.  Unfortunately they cannot be
downloaded.

John Kaberna
CCIE #7146
www.netcginc.com
(415) 750-3800


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> Hi John ,
> IDS sensor is available in NFR (Not for resell) to partners
and
> resellers of Cisco  for USD 2000 less the standard discounts.
> This book is excellent for anyone who is preparing for CSIDS.
>
>
> Navin Parwal
>
>   /
> ""John Kaberna""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I read it and thought it was very good.  There are only about 350 pages
of
> > real material that you need to read.  The other 550 pages is mostly
fluff.
> > If you read and understand most of what is in the book the test is
pretty
> > easy.  But, I would suggest at least having a router that is capable of
> > doing some IDS functions and you should definitely load CSPM on to a NT
> 4.0
> > box.  You can probably still pass without doing that, but you will find
it
> a
> > LOT easier if you have the CSPM application available while reading the
> > book.  It would be bonus if you had an IDS sensor as well.  But, getting
> one
> > is not cheap unless you know how to build one.
> >
> > John Kaberna
> > CCIE #7146
> > www.netcginc.com
> > (415) 750-3800
> >
> >
> >  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Did anyone read this book? I want to learn an prepar for the IDS exam.
> > >
> > > Cisco Secure Intrusion Detection System, by Earl Carter, Rick
> > > Stiffler.
> > > Cisco Press; ISBN: 158705034X
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Hugo




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Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-07 Thread Tom Lisa

The Netacad course material now lists NFS as an Application Layer protocol.

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

> NFS is not a session-layer protocol. Cisco said it was in some early
> courseware and the mistake has lived on. The mistake is still in some CCNA
> and Cisco Networking Academy materials, I think, but it's wrong.
>
> NFS is clearly an application-layer protocol. It uses XDR at the
> presentation layer. It runs above RPC which is a session-layer protocol.
> RPC runs above UDP, which runs above IP. Here was a perfect chance to show
> an actual 7-layer protocol stack and Cisco blew it! ;-)
>
> NetBIOS is a session-layer protocol, as I said in the message. Did you read
> it?
>
> SQL does application-layer stuff, like reading from databases. In an Oracle
> environment, it uses the Transparent Network Substrate (TNS) which has
> session-layer-like behavior. TNS can run above a variety of protocol
> stacks, including TCP/IP, IPX, etc. Cisco texts ignore TNS. I think they
> call SQL a session-layer protocol.
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 06:15 PM 12/7/01, anil wrote:
> > >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
> >Wait a sec, I thought SQL, NFS and netbios were session layer protocols?
> >Someone please correct me.
> >-Anil
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:55 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> >
> >
> >At 02:59 AM 12/7/01, mlh wrote:
> > >Hi, there,
> > >
> > >I read Todd Lammle's CCNA2.0 study guide and found this sentence:
> "Remember
> > >that none of the upper
> > >layers know anything about networking or network addresses." I am
> wondering
> > >if the session layer doesn't
> > >use network address, how can it establish a dialogue with other session
> > >layer in other host?
> >
> >I would probably disagree with Todd's statement, although it's taken out
of
> >context and you haven't given us enough information to say that the
> >statement is definitely "wrong."
> >
> >However, try to picture the numerous OSI pictures you have seen. Most of
> >them show horizontal lines between a layer on one host talking to the same
> >layer on another host. So the session layer talks to the session layer on
> >the other host. That's probably what Todd was getting at.
> >
> >However, the pictures also show vertical lines. A layer calls on a layer
> >below to provide services. Each layer offers services to layers above it.
> >
> >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much. But
one
> >example might help. NetBIOS is a session layer. On a Windows client, when
> >you access a Server Message Block (SMB) server, NetBIOS has the job of
> >setting up a session with the server. Before it can do that, however, it
> >must find the address of the server. If it's a modern Windows network,
then
> >SMB and NetBIOS are probably running above TCP/IP and UDP/IP. So NetBIOS
> >sends a DNS or WINS query to find the IP address of the named server. It
> >then sets up a NetBIOS session with the server. Actually, first, the
client
> >sets up a TCP connection. TCP has port numbers. The client sends to the
> >well-known TCP port for NetBIOS session (139) and use an ephemeral port on
> >its side. These port numbers could be considered "addresses" at the
> >transport layer.
> >
> >Anyway, back to the question. The statement is at best over-simplified. I
> >recommend you get yourself a sniffer and watch what really happens between
> >layers. (Ethereal is free by the way.)
> >
> >Priscilla
> >
> >
> >
> > >Thank you for your time.
> > >
> > >mlh
> >
> >
> >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >http://www.priscilla.com
> 
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]

2001-12-07 Thread Tom Lisa

I knew we were going to get in trouble with this thread!  One of these
days I going to have to learn to listen to my better judgement.  Oh, what
the hell, I'm too old to start using better judgement this late in life.
Besides, if I had when I was young I would have missed a whole lot of fun.

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

> What would a girl be doing at a college? Must be a child genius. Asking her
> to do something other than go to the library or study would be illegal. ;-)
> The correct word for a female human above the age of 18 is WOMAN and don't
> forget that.
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 02:46 PM 12/7/01, Tom Lisa wrote:
> >That's what we get for teaching Cisco.  Btw, when I first saw this the
punch
> >line was "Would you study?"
> >
> >Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
> >Community College of Southern Nevada
> >Cisco Regional Networking Academy
> >
> >"Logan, Harold" wrote:
> >
> > > For some reason that hasn't happened to me yet. I must be teaching the
> > > wrong classes ;)
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:34 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There was a girl who walked into the
> > > > professor's office 1 day before the finals.
> > > > "Professor, I'll do anything, just ANYthing you want if I
> > > > could just pass
> > > > that exam of yours tomorrow" she said in her sweetest voice.
> > > > "Anything?" asked the professor..
> > > > "Sure, I'll do JUST ANY thing, " she said putting his hand on
> > > > her thigh.
> > > >
> > > > "Well that's wonderful" he replied...
> > > > "You have a lot of work to catch up on and only 24 hours left
> > > > to do it, why
> > > > don't you run to the library before it closes"
> > > > 
> > > > -Anil
> > > >
> > >
>
> 
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com




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CIT-Support 2.0 Exam [7:28508]

2001-12-07 Thread Sateesh C

Hi,

I will be taking my Support2.0 exam next friday. This is my last one for 
CCNP. Please send me your valuable inputs.

thnx
cs

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Re: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :-< [7:28142]

2001-12-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chuck,

I am sorry to hear that someone as dedicated to having a thorough 
understanding of the technology and software necessary to become a CCIE has 
not made the mark this time - I'm sure that as many say the third time is a 
charm.  However, as I mentioned in a previous post I have grave concerns 
about accomplishing the more difficult tasks of a previous two day event and 
having them compressed into the new one day format.  At least for us old 
timers and senior citizens.

As I recall you mentioned "time management" a definite issue with the 
previous test and did you think that this is even a greater concern for the 
new format.  You mentioned "fat fingering" some input, and this would 
indicate that speed typing and the use of alias command definitions will 
definitely be required.  I don't believe that they allow you to print out 
your configurations with a provided printer either -- this probably means a 
lot time consuming hand drafts to keep track of IP address assignments etc.

I have scheduled my Lab for the end of May 2002 (first attempt) and hope to 
have a better estimate of what the new format represents by then - I would 
like to think that by diligent home lab study, formal "hands-on" training
and
reading the mail I can prepare for the event.

As I mentioned in a previous post, I am most likely one of the oldest CCIE 
candidates around having just passed my 60th birthday.  I would prefer to 
have some time during the LAB test to verify IOS command syntax by using the 
CD and CCO references available.  But I would almost garner that little on
no
time will be available for research when encountering some unexpected 
configuration scenario.

One question would be: did you feel even greater pressure to perform under 
the new one day time constraints?

Will be reading the mail and wish you the best in your next attempt;
however,
as someone mentioned take a short break, rest -- even though training and 
certification is like a long HI climb on a ladder each rung is not meant to 
rest upon but to reach a higher level.  You are almost there and I am still 
at the bottom looking up.

Regards;

Ray CCDP, CCNP and CCIE candidate.




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CCNP 640-503 Practice Test exam [7:28506]

2001-12-07 Thread Charles Mcknight

Hi Group,
I've used the (Certification Zone) practice routing test for the 640-503 
exam is this exam a true measure of the real exam if not does anyone
have anyone have any other suggestions for practice exams to use.

Thanks..
Charles...

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RE: Windows Syslog servers [7:28407]

2001-12-07 Thread Scott Nawalaniec

I use netal and it works awesome. It has a alot of extra features.

Scott

-Original Message-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Windows Syslog servers [7:28407]


I have used Kiwi with no issues but you can try:
http://www.netal.com/

or
http://www.tntsoftware.com/

Better yet, use a Linux or Solaris box and run MySQL.


""Richard Tufaro""  wrote in message
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> Would anyone have a recommendation for a Windows Syslog server, that logs
to
> a ODBC data source. Anything except for Kiwi, tried it and its buggy as
all
> hell.




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Re: Cisco Press IDS Book - Recommendation [7:28450]

2001-12-07 Thread NKP

Hi John ,
IDS sensor is available in NFR (Not for resell) to partners and
resellers of Cisco  for USD 2000 less the standard discounts.
This book is excellent for anyone who is preparing for CSIDS.


Navin Parwal

  /
""John Kaberna""  wrote in message
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> I read it and thought it was very good.  There are only about 350 pages of
> real material that you need to read.  The other 550 pages is mostly fluff.
> If you read and understand most of what is in the book the test is pretty
> easy.  But, I would suggest at least having a router that is capable of
> doing some IDS functions and you should definitely load CSPM on to a NT
4.0
> box.  You can probably still pass without doing that, but you will find it
a
> LOT easier if you have the CSPM application available while reading the
> book.  It would be bonus if you had an IDS sensor as well.  But, getting
one
> is not cheap unless you know how to build one.
>
> John Kaberna
> CCIE #7146
> www.netcginc.com
> (415) 750-3800
>
>
>  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Did anyone read this book? I want to learn an prepar for the IDS exam.
> >
> > Cisco Secure Intrusion Detection System, by Earl Carter, Rick
> > Stiffler.
> > Cisco Press; ISBN: 158705034X
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Hugo




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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

That's 40% right.

SQL, NFS, and XWindows are application-layer protocols.

RPC and NetBIOS are session-layer protocols.

We often have discussions about which books are best. Todd Lammle books can 
teach you basic router configuration. They are often wrong where protocol 
behavior is concerned.

A better reference for learning about OSI is the OSI paper by Howard 
Berkowitz at http://www.certificationzone.com.

Priscilla

At 11:32 PM 12/7/01, anil wrote:
> >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
>Yes, I checked it out..
>Session layer protocols include:
>SQL, NFS, RPC, NetBios, Xwindows are examples of session layer protocols.
>Page 9 of CCNA 2nd Edition  study guide Todd Lammle
>
>-Anil
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:17 PM
>To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
>
>
> >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
>Wait a sec, I thought SQL, NFS and netbios were session layer protocols?
>Someone please correct me.
>-Anil
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:55 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
>
>
>At 02:59 AM 12/7/01, mlh wrote:
> >Hi, there,
> >
> >I read Todd Lammle's CCNA2.0 study guide and found this sentence:
"Remember
> >that none of the upper
> >layers know anything about networking or network addresses." I am
wondering
> >if the session layer doesn't
> >use network address, how can it establish a dialogue with other session
> >layer in other host?
>
>I would probably disagree with Todd's statement, although it's taken out of
>context and you haven't given us enough information to say that the
>statement is definitely "wrong."
>
>However, try to picture the numerous OSI pictures you have seen. Most of
>them show horizontal lines between a layer on one host talking to the same
>layer on another host. So the session layer talks to the session layer on
>the other host. That's probably what Todd was getting at.
>
>However, the pictures also show vertical lines. A layer calls on a layer
>below to provide services. Each layer offers services to layers above it.
>
>The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much. But one
>example might help. NetBIOS is a session layer. On a Windows client, when
>you access a Server Message Block (SMB) server, NetBIOS has the job of
>setting up a session with the server. Before it can do that, however, it
>must find the address of the server. If it's a modern Windows network, then
>SMB and NetBIOS are probably running above TCP/IP and UDP/IP. So NetBIOS
>sends a DNS or WINS query to find the IP address of the named server. It
>then sets up a NetBIOS session with the server. Actually, first, the client
>sets up a TCP connection. TCP has port numbers. The client sends to the
>well-known TCP port for NetBIOS session (139) and use an ephemeral port on
>its side. These port numbers could be considered "addresses" at the
>transport layer.
>
>Anyway, back to the question. The statement is at best over-simplified. I
>recommend you get yourself a sniffer and watch what really happens between
>layers. (Ethereal is free by the way.)
>
>Priscilla
>
>
>
> >Thank you for your time.
> >
> >mlh
>
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>http://www.priscilla.com


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Re: What is ICMP redirect cache ? [7:28455]

2001-12-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Maybe the router isn't doing routing and just has a default gateway??

Let's see, I'm looking into my crystal ball. I can almost make out the 
router's config and the problem you're trying to solve.. Trying to 
decipher what "can cannot connect" means Nope. It's too faint 
Sorry, magic failed again to help. ;-)

Priscilla


> >>> "SUranjith Ariyapperuma"  12/7/01 4:28:42
>PM >>>
>Hi John,
>Thanks for the reply. Yes I am quite certain. This is what I was
>wondering
>about too. I can connect (Telnet,Ping) to the other routers, yet cannot
>see
>the routing table with "sh ip route".
>Suranjith




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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

NFS is not a session-layer protocol. Cisco said it was in some early 
courseware and the mistake has lived on. The mistake is still in some CCNA 
and Cisco Networking Academy materials, I think, but it's wrong.

NFS is clearly an application-layer protocol. It uses XDR at the 
presentation layer. It runs above RPC which is a session-layer protocol. 
RPC runs above UDP, which runs above IP. Here was a perfect chance to show 
an actual 7-layer protocol stack and Cisco blew it! ;-)

NetBIOS is a session-layer protocol, as I said in the message. Did you read
it?

SQL does application-layer stuff, like reading from databases. In an Oracle 
environment, it uses the Transparent Network Substrate (TNS) which has 
session-layer-like behavior. TNS can run above a variety of protocol 
stacks, including TCP/IP, IPX, etc. Cisco texts ignore TNS. I think they 
call SQL a session-layer protocol.

Priscilla

At 06:15 PM 12/7/01, anil wrote:
> >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
>Wait a sec, I thought SQL, NFS and netbios were session layer protocols?
>Someone please correct me.
>-Anil
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:55 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
>
>
>At 02:59 AM 12/7/01, mlh wrote:
> >Hi, there,
> >
> >I read Todd Lammle's CCNA2.0 study guide and found this sentence:
"Remember
> >that none of the upper
> >layers know anything about networking or network addresses." I am
wondering
> >if the session layer doesn't
> >use network address, how can it establish a dialogue with other session
> >layer in other host?
>
>I would probably disagree with Todd's statement, although it's taken out of
>context and you haven't given us enough information to say that the
>statement is definitely "wrong."
>
>However, try to picture the numerous OSI pictures you have seen. Most of
>them show horizontal lines between a layer on one host talking to the same
>layer on another host. So the session layer talks to the session layer on
>the other host. That's probably what Todd was getting at.
>
>However, the pictures also show vertical lines. A layer calls on a layer
>below to provide services. Each layer offers services to layers above it.
>
>The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much. But one
>example might help. NetBIOS is a session layer. On a Windows client, when
>you access a Server Message Block (SMB) server, NetBIOS has the job of
>setting up a session with the server. Before it can do that, however, it
>must find the address of the server. If it's a modern Windows network, then
>SMB and NetBIOS are probably running above TCP/IP and UDP/IP. So NetBIOS
>sends a DNS or WINS query to find the IP address of the named server. It
>then sets up a NetBIOS session with the server. Actually, first, the client
>sets up a TCP connection. TCP has port numbers. The client sends to the
>well-known TCP port for NetBIOS session (139) and use an ephemeral port on
>its side. These port numbers could be considered "addresses" at the
>transport layer.
>
>Anyway, back to the question. The statement is at best over-simplified. I
>recommend you get yourself a sniffer and watch what really happens between
>layers. (Ethereal is free by the way.)
>
>Priscilla
>
>
>
> >Thank you for your time.
> >
> >mlh
>
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>http://www.priscilla.com


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RE: Redistribution Question [7:28374]

2001-12-07 Thread Stefan Dozier

I never indicated that you didn't have a default-metric statment
on the ASBR (Router C for IGRP process)!

My first thought was maybe you mistakenly crossed the cables
btw routers A & B, based on the configs you posted and the
diagram you wrote out!

Second:
Your routing table entries for routers A, B, and C match
what I have on my pod!
But
You're definitely missing the 192.168.1.x network in RouterD's
routing table and that's the reason you can't ping from D to B.
Which would point to something wrong at the ASBR (RouterC)!

Here's what RouterD's routing table should look like!

RouterD#sh ip route

Gateway of last resort is not set

I10.0.0.0/8 [100/8576] via 192.168.2.49, 00:00:56, Serial0
I192.168.1.0/24 [100/10476] via 192.168.2.49, 00:00:56, Serial0
 192.168.2.0/28 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   192.168.2.48 is directly connected, Serial0

BTW: What's the static route on RouterC for?

I've had total reachability success both with and without the static
route on RouterC and to be honest, in my limited experience I've
only seen static routes to Null0 used to "fool" a BGP process or to
setup a route to a blackhole of sorts to drop packets. I'm sure their
may be other reasons and uses available, and ifso someone here will
clue me in!

Stefan


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And from Router D, I can ping back to A, but not to B:

RouterD#ping 10.1.1.100

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.100, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 84/86/88 ms
RouterD#ping 192.168.1.17

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.1.17, timeout is 2 seconds:
.
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
RouterD#



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> I already had the default-metric statment on the ASBR (Router C for IGRP
> process), I tried to add this to Router D (IGRP process), with no help.
> These are the routing table outputs and trace routes outputs from the
> routers:
>
> Any ideas??
>
> Thanks.
> Hunt
>
>
> RouterA#show ip route
> Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
>D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
>E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
>i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
> default
>
> Gateway of last resort is not set
>
>  10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> C   10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial1
>  192.168.1.0 255.255.255.240 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> O IA192.168.1.16 [110/128] via 10.1.1.1, 00:07:03, Serial1
>  192.168.2.0 255.255.255.240 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> O E2192.168.2.48 [110/20] via 10.1.1.1, 00:07:03, Serial1
> RouterA#
>
>
> RouterB#show ip route
> Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
>D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
>E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
>i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
> default
>
> Gateway of last resort is not set
>
>  10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> C   10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial1
>  192.168.1.0 255.255.255.240 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> C   192.168.1.16 is directly connected, Serial0
>  192.168.2.0 255.255.255.240 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> O E2192.168.2.48 [110/20] via 192.168.1.18, 00:07:45, Serial0
> RouterB#
>
>
> RouterC#show ip route
> Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
>D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
>N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
>E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
>i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
> default
>U - per-user static route, o - ODR
>
> Gateway of last resort is not set
>
>  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> O IA10.1.1.0 [110/128] via 192.168.1.17, 00:09:58, Serial0
>  192.168.1.0/24 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
> S   192.168.1.0/24 is directly connected, Null0
> C   192.168.1.16/28 is directly connected, Serial0
>  192.168.2.0/28 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> C   192.168.2.48 is directly connected, Serial1
> RouterC#
>
> RouterD#show ip route
> Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
>D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
>N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
>E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
>i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS int

RE: CCIE Books [7:28383]

2001-12-07 Thread Shah Nick

If your goal is to prepare for CCIE Qualification (written) my
recommendation is :

1. Internetworking Tech. Overview (CCO)
2. Caslow (good for lab + written)
3. Jeff Doyle (Volume I)
4. Try either Halabi for BGP or CCO

Get a few Boson's (try no. 3, it has about 400 Q's). and you should be fine. 

btw, I am assuming you are already a ccnp or atleast closer.

hth

Nick


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RE: What is ICMP redirect cache ? [7:28455]

2001-12-07 Thread SUranjith Ariyapperuma

Dear John & routerkid
Thank you very much for the info. I will try the commands and now I
understand what is going on .
Suranjith


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Re: Windows Syslog servers [7:28407]

2001-12-07 Thread Ed Horley

I have used Kiwi with no issues but you can try:
http://www.netal.com/

or
http://www.tntsoftware.com/

Better yet, use a Linux or Solaris box and run MySQL.


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> Would anyone have a recommendation for a Windows Syslog server, that logs
to
> a ODBC data source. Anything except for Kiwi, tried it and its buggy as
all
> hell.




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CCDA Practice Test [7:28496]

2001-12-07 Thread Debbie Raimer

Does anyone know which of the Boson Test to purchase for the CCDA Test? 
There
are five different test that you can purchase.  Thank you!




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Re: Redistribution Question [7:28374]

2001-12-07 Thread Hunt Lee

And from Router D, I can ping back to A, but not to B:

RouterD#ping 10.1.1.100

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.100, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 84/86/88 ms
RouterD#ping 192.168.1.17

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.1.17, timeout is 2 seconds:
.
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
RouterD#



""Hunt Lee""  wrote in message
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> I already had the default-metric statment on the ASBR (Router C for IGRP
> process), I tried to add this to Router D (IGRP process), with no help.
> These are the routing table outputs and trace routes outputs from the
> routers:
>
> Any ideas??
>
> Thanks.
> Hunt
>
>
> RouterA#show ip route
> Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
>D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
>E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
>i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
> default
>
> Gateway of last resort is not set
>
>  10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> C   10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial1
>  192.168.1.0 255.255.255.240 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> O IA192.168.1.16 [110/128] via 10.1.1.1, 00:07:03, Serial1
>  192.168.2.0 255.255.255.240 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> O E2192.168.2.48 [110/20] via 10.1.1.1, 00:07:03, Serial1
> RouterA#
>
>
> RouterB#show ip route
> Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
>D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
>E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
>i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
> default
>
> Gateway of last resort is not set
>
>  10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> C   10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial1
>  192.168.1.0 255.255.255.240 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> C   192.168.1.16 is directly connected, Serial0
>  192.168.2.0 255.255.255.240 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> O E2192.168.2.48 [110/20] via 192.168.1.18, 00:07:45, Serial0
> RouterB#
>
>
> RouterC#show ip route
> Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
>D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
>N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
>E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
>i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
> default
>U - per-user static route, o - ODR
>
> Gateway of last resort is not set
>
>  10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> O IA10.1.1.0 [110/128] via 192.168.1.17, 00:09:58, Serial0
>  192.168.1.0/24 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
> S   192.168.1.0/24 is directly connected, Null0
> C   192.168.1.16/28 is directly connected, Serial0
>  192.168.2.0/28 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> C   192.168.2.48 is directly connected, Serial1
> RouterC#
>
> RouterD#show ip route
> Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
>D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
>N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
>E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
>i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS inter
> area
>* - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
>P - periodic downloaded static route
>
> Gateway of last resort is not set
>
> I10.0.0.0/8 [100/8576] via 192.168.2.49, 00:00:58, Serial0
>  192.168.2.0/28 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> C   192.168.2.48 is directly connected, Serial0
> RouterD#
>
>
> And when I ping from Router A to D, it works.. but it doesn't work from B
to
> D (& vice versa)
>
> RouterA#ping 192.168.2.50
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.2.50, timeout is 2 seconds:
> !
> Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 84/86/88 ms
> RouterA#
>
> RouterB#ping 192.168.2.50
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.2.50, timeout is 2 seconds:
> .
> Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
> RouterB#
>
>
> And here's what I got from OSPF topology table:
>
> RouterA#show ip ospf database
>
>OSPF Router with ID (10.1.1.100) (Process ID 100)
>
>
> Router Link States (Area 1)
>
> Link ID ADV Router  AgeSeq#   Checksum Link count
> 10.1.1.100  10.1.1.100  8780x8004 0x4E42
> 192.168.1.17192.168.1.178220x800F 0xEE46   2
>
> Summary Net Link States (Area 1)
>
> Link ID ADV Router  AgeSeq#   Checksum
> 192.168.1.16192.168.1.178120x8001 0xBC79
>
> Summary ASB Link States (Area 1)
>
> Link

Re: Redistribution Question [7:28374]

2001-12-07 Thread Hunt Lee

I already had the default-metric statment on the ASBR (Router C for IGRP
process), I tried to add this to Router D (IGRP process), with no help.
These are the routing table outputs and trace routes outputs from the
routers:

Any ideas??

Thanks.
Hunt


RouterA#show ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
default

Gateway of last resort is not set

 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial1
 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.240 is subnetted, 1 subnets
O IA192.168.1.16 [110/128] via 10.1.1.1, 00:07:03, Serial1
 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.240 is subnetted, 1 subnets
O E2192.168.2.48 [110/20] via 10.1.1.1, 00:07:03, Serial1
RouterA#


RouterB#show ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
default

Gateway of last resort is not set

 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial1
 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.240 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   192.168.1.16 is directly connected, Serial0
 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.240 is subnetted, 1 subnets
O E2192.168.2.48 [110/20] via 192.168.1.18, 00:07:45, Serial0
RouterB#


RouterC#show ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
default
   U - per-user static route, o - ODR

Gateway of last resort is not set

 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
O IA10.1.1.0 [110/128] via 192.168.1.17, 00:09:58, Serial0
 192.168.1.0/24 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
S   192.168.1.0/24 is directly connected, Null0
C   192.168.1.16/28 is directly connected, Serial0
 192.168.2.0/28 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   192.168.2.48 is directly connected, Serial1
RouterC#

RouterD#show ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS inter
area
   * - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
   P - periodic downloaded static route

Gateway of last resort is not set

I10.0.0.0/8 [100/8576] via 192.168.2.49, 00:00:58, Serial0
 192.168.2.0/28 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   192.168.2.48 is directly connected, Serial0
RouterD#


And when I ping from Router A to D, it works.. but it doesn't work from B to
D (& vice versa)

RouterA#ping 192.168.2.50
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.2.50, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 84/86/88 ms
RouterA#

RouterB#ping 192.168.2.50
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.2.50, timeout is 2 seconds:
.
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
RouterB#


And here's what I got from OSPF topology table:

RouterA#show ip ospf database

   OSPF Router with ID (10.1.1.100) (Process ID 100)


Router Link States (Area 1)

Link ID ADV Router  AgeSeq#   Checksum Link count
10.1.1.100  10.1.1.100  8780x8004 0x4E42
192.168.1.17192.168.1.178220x800F 0xEE46   2

Summary Net Link States (Area 1)

Link ID ADV Router  AgeSeq#   Checksum
192.168.1.16192.168.1.178120x8001 0xBC79

Summary ASB Link States (Area 1)

Link ID ADV Router  AgeSeq#   Checksum
192.168.2.49192.168.1.178020x8001 0xB251

AS External Link States

Link ID ADV Router  AgeSeq#   Checksum Tag
192.168.2.48192.168.1.491190   0x8002 0xA7CF   0
192.168.2.48192.168.2.498290x8001 0xA2D4   0
RouterA#


RouterB#show ip ospf database

   OSPF Router with ID (192.168.1.17) (Process ID 100)


Router Link States (Area 0)

Link ID ADV Router  AgeSeq#   Checksum Link count
192.168.1.17192.168.1.178620x8015 0x41F3   2
192.168.1.49192.168.1.492020   0x8004 0x49BA   2
192.168.2.49192.168.2.498640x8002

Re: PIX On A PC? [7:28342]

2001-12-07 Thread Gaz

Fair one.  I've got no real need for a Frankenpix.
I have got a Pix-4-FE if it'll take that and no end of PC bits hanging
around, so it could give me a 6 interface pix for free.
As much as anything it is out of interest.

Gaz



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> For the cost of buying a new low-end PC you can get a 501.  So, unless you
> need multiple interfaces its not really worth it.  Plus, the 501 can run
6.x
> code and you can't with a 2MB flash card.  Unless you've got a spare PC
with
> the required parts lying around your best bet is to probably spend $500
> bucks on a 501. If you do plan on building your own, there's not much more
> to it than building a skeleton PC.  That's why there isn't much more info
> about how to do it.  If you know about basic PC hardware then you can
figure
> it out.
>
> John Kaberna
> CCIE #7146
> www.netcginc.com
> (415) 750-3800
>
>
> ""Gaz""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Has anyone got more details on this please.
> > I've seen various posts but never any details. Usually they die off at
the
> > expense of a flash card.
> > I've got a 520 being flash upgraded from 2Mb to 16Mb, so I wouldn't mind
> > having a play with the old 2Mb card if it's a go'er.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Gaz
> >
> > ""George Murphy CCNP, CCDP""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Thanks Geoff. I appreciate the reply. I would have never found
that.
> > >
> > > Geoff Zinderdine wrote:
> > >
> > > >""Murphy, George""  wrote in message
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >
> > > >>Howdy Folks, I have seen some posts before about running PIX on a PC
a
> > > >>"FrankenPIX" so to speak. Anyone have any references on how to do
> this?.
> > I
> > > >>have a clone box to use but need to know how to steps
> > > >>Thanks for any help..
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Hansang Bae posted this on the lab mailing list a while back, I will
> save
> > > >him the cut and paste:
> > > >
> > > >Here are the components that make up:
> > > >
> > > > Cisco LocalDirector 430/416
> > > > Cisco Pix Firewall  520
> > > >
> > > >  MOTHERBOARD:
> > > > Intel Motherboard   SE440BX-2   $ 100
> > > >
> > > >  NETWORK INTERFACE:
> > > > Intel Pro100/B 10/100 NIC   PRO100/B$  40
> > > > - OR -
> > > > Osicom 4 Ethernet Port PCI  OLN-2404TX  $ 900
> > > >
> > > >  ISA FLASH CARD:
> > > > 16MB ISA Flash Card (PEP)   CISCO - $ 700
> > > > - OR -
> > > > 4MB  ISA Flash Card (??)??  $ --?
> > > >
> > > >hsb




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RE: 4500m boot issue [7:28442]

2001-12-07 Thread Brad Moss

Physical
Had this same problem. Both banks have to have memory in them and it has to
be the same size.

Shared Memory
The slot under the card must have parity.

These things fixed my problem; it turned out I had a bad stick of memory. In
the physical slot.

Brad Moss,  CCNA

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Rogers
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 1:07 PM
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Subject: 4500m boot issue [7:28442]

Searched high and low on Cisco. Has anyone here seen this and know what
would cause it on a 4500. Have tried pulling all modules even RAM and flash
and it still occurs. Thanks for any help...


System Bootstrap, Version 5.2(7b) [mkamson 7b], RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1995 by cisco Systems, Inc.

Bad RAM at location 0xA004: wrote 0xA004, read 0x2004




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Re: What is ICMP redirect cache ? [7:28455]

2001-12-07 Thread John Neiberger

What model of router and IOS version are you using?  I would think that
an IOS version that had major problems with "show ip route" would
probably get yanked from the shelves pretty quickly!  :-)

Try typing "show ip redirects" and see if that is the same output you
get when you type "show ip route".

>>> "SUranjith Ariyapperuma"  12/7/01 4:28:42
PM >>>
Hi John,
Thanks for the reply. Yes I am quite certain. This is what I was
wondering
about too. I can connect (Telnet,Ping) to the other routers, yet cannot
see
the routing table with "sh ip route".
Suranjith




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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-07 Thread anil

>The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
Yes, I checked it out..
Session layer protocols include:
SQL, NFS, RPC, NetBios, Xwindows are examples of session layer protocols.
Page 9 of CCNA 2nd Edition  study guide Todd Lammle

-Anil




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To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
Wait a sec, I thought SQL, NFS and netbios were session layer protocols?
Someone please correct me.
-Anil


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Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]


At 02:59 AM 12/7/01, mlh wrote:
>Hi, there,
>
>I read Todd Lammle's CCNA2.0 study guide and found this sentence: "Remember
>that none of the upper
>layers know anything about networking or network addresses." I am wondering
>if the session layer doesn't
>use network address, how can it establish a dialogue with other session
>layer in other host?

I would probably disagree with Todd's statement, although it's taken out of
context and you haven't given us enough information to say that the
statement is definitely "wrong."

However, try to picture the numerous OSI pictures you have seen. Most of
them show horizontal lines between a layer on one host talking to the same
layer on another host. So the session layer talks to the session layer on
the other host. That's probably what Todd was getting at.

However, the pictures also show vertical lines. A layer calls on a layer
below to provide services. Each layer offers services to layers above it.

The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much. But one
example might help. NetBIOS is a session layer. On a Windows client, when
you access a Server Message Block (SMB) server, NetBIOS has the job of
setting up a session with the server. Before it can do that, however, it
must find the address of the server. If it's a modern Windows network, then
SMB and NetBIOS are probably running above TCP/IP and UDP/IP. So NetBIOS
sends a DNS or WINS query to find the IP address of the named server. It
then sets up a NetBIOS session with the server. Actually, first, the client
sets up a TCP connection. TCP has port numbers. The client sends to the
well-known TCP port for NetBIOS session (139) and use an ephemeral port on
its side. These port numbers could be considered "addresses" at the
transport layer.

Anyway, back to the question. The statement is at best over-simplified. I
recommend you get yourself a sniffer and watch what really happens between
layers. (Ethereal is free by the way.)

Priscilla



>Thank you for your time.
>
>mlh


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: What is ICMP redirect cache ? [7:28455]

2001-12-07 Thread SUranjith Ariyapperuma

Hi John,
Thanks for the reply. Yes I am quite certain. This is what I was wondering
about too. I can connect (Telnet,Ping) to the other routers, yet cannot see
the routing table with "sh ip route".
Suranjith


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6500 IP routing, IPX bridging and routing. [7:28488]

2001-12-07 Thread Gaz

Hi all,

I made a right pigs ear of a config today. Managed to get it working
eventually, but I have a feeling I made a mountain out of a mole hill.

The requirement was a 6500 with MSFC, with around 20 connections to switches
such as 3548's, each having a subnet with a 24 bit mask, (so 20 ports, 20
subnets). 8 of these ports had an IPX network each. The other 12 ports were
on the same IPX network (12 ports, 12 subnets, one IPX network).

The initial idea was to use Integrated Routing and Bridging. This led me to
creating BVI's which were routing IP, but bridging IPX. When I tried to add
VLAN's to the bridge-group the response was something like 'Cannot create
bridge group with VLAN without including a WAN interface' Apologies for the
vagueness, but in terms of the day, that seems about 4 years ago.

No matter what I tried with BVI's, I couldn't get the thing to bridge and
route IPX.

Someone, who I have now shot :-) suggested trying it with Integrated IOS, so
I printed off the 26 pages of instructions to upgrade to Integrated IOS and
tried that (eventually - I tried answering the phone constantly throughout
the upgrade and lost it a few times - Thank God for PCMCIA cards).

With the Integrated IOS, I created BVI's wit IPX addresses, and put the
relevant ethernet interfaces into the bridge group, and it worked straight
away.


I can't help get the feeling there's an easier way.

Any clues?


Thanks.

Gaz




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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-07 Thread anil

>The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
Wait a sec, I thought SQL, NFS and netbios were session layer protocols?
Someone please correct me.
-Anil


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]


At 02:59 AM 12/7/01, mlh wrote:
>Hi, there,
>
>I read Todd Lammle's CCNA2.0 study guide and found this sentence: "Remember
>that none of the upper
>layers know anything about networking or network addresses." I am wondering
>if the session layer doesn't
>use network address, how can it establish a dialogue with other session
>layer in other host?

I would probably disagree with Todd's statement, although it's taken out of
context and you haven't given us enough information to say that the
statement is definitely "wrong."

However, try to picture the numerous OSI pictures you have seen. Most of
them show horizontal lines between a layer on one host talking to the same
layer on another host. So the session layer talks to the session layer on
the other host. That's probably what Todd was getting at.

However, the pictures also show vertical lines. A layer calls on a layer
below to provide services. Each layer offers services to layers above it.

The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much. But one
example might help. NetBIOS is a session layer. On a Windows client, when
you access a Server Message Block (SMB) server, NetBIOS has the job of
setting up a session with the server. Before it can do that, however, it
must find the address of the server. If it's a modern Windows network, then
SMB and NetBIOS are probably running above TCP/IP and UDP/IP. So NetBIOS
sends a DNS or WINS query to find the IP address of the named server. It
then sets up a NetBIOS session with the server. Actually, first, the client
sets up a TCP connection. TCP has port numbers. The client sends to the
well-known TCP port for NetBIOS session (139) and use an ephemeral port on
its side. These port numbers could be considered "addresses" at the
transport layer.

Anyway, back to the question. The statement is at best over-simplified. I
recommend you get yourself a sniffer and watch what really happens between
layers. (Ethereal is free by the way.)

Priscilla



>Thank you for your time.
>
>mlh


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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Desperately SeekingIOS 12.2(4)T [7:28486]

2001-12-07 Thread Anthony

Desperately seeking this IOS (or any other newer IOS for 2610 that supports
WIC-1ADSL)  to enable my new WIC-1ADSL for my 2610. Please help, I will
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Re: PIX On A PC? [7:28342]

2001-12-07 Thread John Kaberna

For the cost of buying a new low-end PC you can get a 501.  So, unless you
need multiple interfaces its not really worth it.  Plus, the 501 can run 6.x
code and you can't with a 2MB flash card.  Unless you've got a spare PC with
the required parts lying around your best bet is to probably spend $500
bucks on a 501. If you do plan on building your own, there's not much more
to it than building a skeleton PC.  That's why there isn't much more info
about how to do it.  If you know about basic PC hardware then you can figure
it out.

John Kaberna
CCIE #7146
www.netcginc.com
(415) 750-3800


""Gaz""  wrote in message
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> Has anyone got more details on this please.
> I've seen various posts but never any details. Usually they die off at the
> expense of a flash card.
> I've got a 520 being flash upgraded from 2Mb to 16Mb, so I wouldn't mind
> having a play with the old 2Mb card if it's a go'er.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gaz
>
> ""George Murphy CCNP, CCDP""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Thanks Geoff. I appreciate the reply. I would have never found that.
> >
> > Geoff Zinderdine wrote:
> >
> > >""Murphy, George""  wrote in message
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > >>Howdy Folks, I have seen some posts before about running PIX on a PC a
> > >>"FrankenPIX" so to speak. Anyone have any references on how to do
this?.
> I
> > >>have a clone box to use but need to know how to steps
> > >>Thanks for any help..
> > >>
> > >
> > >Hansang Bae posted this on the lab mailing list a while back, I will
save
> > >him the cut and paste:
> > >
> > >Here are the components that make up:
> > >
> > > Cisco LocalDirector 430/416
> > > Cisco Pix Firewall  520
> > >
> > >  MOTHERBOARD:
> > > Intel Motherboard   SE440BX-2   $ 100
> > >
> > >  NETWORK INTERFACE:
> > > Intel Pro100/B 10/100 NIC   PRO100/B$  40
> > > - OR -
> > > Osicom 4 Ethernet Port PCI  OLN-2404TX  $ 900
> > >
> > >  ISA FLASH CARD:
> > > 16MB ISA Flash Card (PEP)   CISCO - $ 700
> > > - OR -
> > > 4MB  ISA Flash Card (??)??  $ --?
> > >
> > >hsb




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RE: Serial links [7:28270]

2001-12-07 Thread Daniel Cotts

Absolutely correct! At least in the case of radio. Quite a protocol to
indicate that one is done speaking and the other is now free to speak.

> -Original Message-
> From: Gaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 4:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Serial links [7:28270]
> 
> 
> But with voice it would be OK as long as only one person 
> spoke at once :-)
> 
> 
> Gaz
> 
> P.S. J for Joke.
> 
> 
> ""Daniel Cotts""  wrote in message
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> > 1.544 each way. Do some research on T-1. Hint - it 
> originally was designed
> > for voice. 24 channels of 64 kbs (1536) each plus framing. 
> I think that
> the
> > Larscom CSU/DSU manuals have a good tutorial.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Michael Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
> > > Subject: Re: Serial links [7:28270]
> >
> > > Having said that, what are your thoughts on my question about
> > > a point to
> > > point T1 link at 1.544 Mbps?  Is that 768Kbps each way or
> > > 1.544each way?




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Re: Preparing for MCNS [7:28480]

2001-12-07 Thread Murphy, George

Zeke, I have been using Boson test #1 & 2 which got high remarks from the
newsgroup at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cisco_security

They are great for learning and driving home the basics and concepts. I
believe they are helping me greatly. I also used the same authors test for
CID and it was top notch as a resource. Hope this helps...

""Zeke Gibson""  wrote in message
news:...
> Hello All,
> 
> First off let me thank everyone who participates on this list, very
helpful
> folks ;)
> 
> Now down to business, I am getting close to taking the MCNS exam, and so
far
> I have only used the Cisco Press book Managing Cisco Network Security, I
> read it through 3 times and feel I have a good grasp on the material. I
also
> have read over numerous white papers and documents from CCO which I
thought
> would be helpful to me. I have the Cisco exam blueprint and have tried my
> best to map my efforts to the blueprint. I am also planning on purchasing
> the Boson MCNS practice exam, and have checked the resources available at
> www.cramsession.com, mostly the posts related to the exam and the "Exam
> Cram" document. Any other helpful books, sites, software that may be
useful?
> 
> Also, without breaking NDA of course, anyone know if there is any overlap
> between MCNS and and PIX exam? Thanks in advance for any advice,
> 
> -Zeke




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Re: Cisco Press IDS Book - Recommendation [7:28450]

2001-12-07 Thread John Kaberna

I read it and thought it was very good.  There are only about 350 pages of
real material that you need to read.  The other 550 pages is mostly fluff.
If you read and understand most of what is in the book the test is pretty
easy.  But, I would suggest at least having a router that is capable of
doing some IDS functions and you should definitely load CSPM on to a NT 4.0
box.  You can probably still pass without doing that, but you will find it a
LOT easier if you have the CSPM application available while reading the
book.  It would be bonus if you had an IDS sensor as well.  But, getting one
is not cheap unless you know how to build one.  

John Kaberna
CCIE #7146
www.netcginc.com
(415) 750-3800


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> Did anyone read this book? I want to learn an prepar for the IDS exam.
>
> Cisco Secure Intrusion Detection System, by Earl Carter, Rick
> Stiffler.
> Cisco Press; ISBN: 158705034X
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hugo




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RE: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]

2001-12-07 Thread SA J

Mr. Chuck!!!
As for ur information! i have already did all the
practicals of BCRAN in Lab & also read the book
thoroughly & have all the concepts clear!! i can clear
BCRAN paper easily without dumps! but i always try to
be extremely careful about every thing in life
specially my studies! so i dont want to take a 1% of
risk in giving BCRAN ! so u dont have to worry about
dumps! i will get it anywhere! & i will be more
confident & more valued than u in the market!!
Dont worry! 
The world is full of competition! 
& time & tide waits for none!
take care my friend!
SAJ


--- "Logan, Harold"  wrote:
> For some reason that hasn't happened to me yet. I
> must be teaching the
> wrong classes ;)
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:34 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]
> > 
> > 
> > There was a girl who walked into the
> > professor's office 1 day before the finals.
> > "Professor, I'll do anything, just ANYthing you
> want if I 
> > could just pass
> > that exam of yours tomorrow" she said in her
> sweetest voice.
> > "Anything?" asked the professor..
> > "Sure, I'll do JUST ANY thing, " she said putting
> his hand on 
> > her thigh.
> > 
> > "Well that's wonderful" he replied...
> > "You have a lot of work to catch up on and only 24
> hours left 
> > to do it, why
> > don't you run to the library before it closes"
> > 
> > -Anil
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Mcfadden, Chuck
> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:52 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]
> > 
> > 
> > We not prone to liking dumps around here.  You
> see, there's this thing
> > called a confidentiality agreement.  You know,
> that pesky 
> > thing that keeps
> > us who have work our tails off to earn a
> certification or two 
> > by reading
> > books, doing installations, asking questions, and
> buying labs 
> > for our homes.
> > You know, those of us who care more about the
> technology than 
> > the piece of
> > paper on the wall.
> > 
> > My feeling is, "to each his own."  If you want to
> cheat to gain your
> > certification, fine.  However, don't fault me when
> our 
> > certification levels
> > are equal and we are vying for the same customer
> or job.  I 
> > can assure you,
> > it may take me longer to get my certifications
> than you, but 
> > when we come
> > face to face with the same customer or job...stand
> aside, 
> > it's all mine.  So
> > you go ahead and cheat then wonder why you can't
> rate amongst 
> > your peers.
> > 
> > I seem to remember Microsoft had this problem with
> the MCSE NT4.0
> > certification.  After a while everyone had their
> MCSE.  Maybe 
> > 15% of the
> > MCSE were worth a salt because everyone cheated. 
> Let's not 
> > let this guy
> > decline our value in the market.  I may seem a bit
> extreme, 
> > but we need to
> > ban all of these cheater sites.  They destroy
> everything we 
> > value with the
> > certification.  Even if you only use them to brush
> up before 
> > the test.  If
> > you can't pass the test do more, do cheat!!
> > ccie1ab
> > 
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> > 
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Preparing for MCNS [7:28480]

2001-12-07 Thread Zeke Gibson

Hello All,

First off let me thank everyone who participates on this list, very helpful
folks ;)

Now down to business, I am getting close to taking the MCNS exam, and so far
I have only used the Cisco Press book Managing Cisco Network Security, I
read it through 3 times and feel I have a good grasp on the material. I also
have read over numerous white papers and documents from CCO which I thought
would be helpful to me. I have the Cisco exam blueprint and have tried my
best to map my efforts to the blueprint. I am also planning on purchasing
the Boson MCNS practice exam, and have checked the resources available at
www.cramsession.com, mostly the posts related to the exam and the "Exam
Cram" document. Any other helpful books, sites, software that may be useful?

Also, without breaking NDA of course, anyone know if there is any overlap
between MCNS and and PIX exam? Thanks in advance for any advice,

-Zeke




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RE: upgrading the pix [7:28454]

2001-12-07 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

You got a point Dave...

I can find these:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/

Must be a special bootleg version with an xmas screensaver...

Ole

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5.5??

  Dave

george gittins wrote:
> 
> m currently running ios 5.5 on my pix 520, i want to upgrade to ios 6.0
are
> their any special instruction?
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RE: Serial links [7:28270]

2001-12-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Good point. I was thinking the 1970s might be too late, even if the 1940s 
was too early. ;-)

The 4-wire to 2-wire connection is important to know about because it 
represents an impedance mismatch and may cause echo. It's called the 
hybrid. The change from 2 wire to 4 wire lets the network apply 
amplification in just one direction, from what I understand. For the 
various Cisco classes that cover voice, you need to know about the hybrid.

I mostly work above the physical layer, as you can probably tell. ;-) But 
even a minimal understanding of the physical layer is helpful for 
understanding full duplex, half duplex, etc.

Priscilla



At 05:01 PM 12/7/01, Daniel Cotts wrote:
>I started working on T-1s in 1969. Actually four wire circuits go way back
>to analog trunk lines. An amplifier works in one direction only. Two wire
>circuits went through a two wire to four wire coil at each end.(can't
>remember the terminology). The circuit was four wire for the long haul. Each
>transmit was amplified. N carrier circuits again used four wire. The
>channels were seperated by frequency. L carrier used coax. Can't remember if
>one or two cables as I didn't work on it.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>m
> > Subject: Re: Serial links [7:28270]
>Each side has its own dedicated transmit pair. Big deal. That's been the
>case on WANs since like the 1940s or something. Well, maybe the 1970s.


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Re: inverse-arp enabled? [7:28460]

2001-12-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Is this problem on a router acting as a frame relay switch by any chance?? 
A switch shouldn't care about mapping network-layer addresses to DLCIs 
since it works at the data-link layer. Just a thought..

Priscilla


>Danny Cox wrote:
> >
> > My understanding is that frame relay inverse arp is enabled by default.
> > We have
> > a lab built up from 2500s in the main and one 2600, all running 12.1
> >
> > We're finding that each time we restart the router we've to set
> >
> > frame-relay inverse-arp ip 201
> >
> > etc on some of the interfaces .. I forget whether these are DTE/DCE - it
> > seems to be
> > specifically one.  Can anyone point me to a URL which explains how I can
> > fix this
> > so it survives a reload?
> >
> > many thanks
> >
> > Danny




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Re: PIX On A PC? [7:28342]

2001-12-07 Thread Gaz

Has anyone got more details on this please.
I've seen various posts but never any details. Usually they die off at the
expense of a flash card.
I've got a 520 being flash upgraded from 2Mb to 16Mb, so I wouldn't mind
having a play with the old 2Mb card if it's a go'er.

Cheers,

Gaz

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>
> Geoff Zinderdine wrote:
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> >""Murphy, George""  wrote in message
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> >>Howdy Folks, I have seen some posts before about running PIX on a PC a
> >>"FrankenPIX" so to speak. Anyone have any references on how to do this?.
I
> >>have a clone box to use but need to know how to steps
> >>Thanks for any help..
> >>
> >
> >Hansang Bae posted this on the lab mailing list a while back, I will save
> >him the cut and paste:
> >
> >Here are the components that make up:
> >
> > Cisco LocalDirector 430/416
> > Cisco Pix Firewall  520
> >
> >  MOTHERBOARD:
> > Intel Motherboard   SE440BX-2   $ 100
> >
> >  NETWORK INTERFACE:
> > Intel Pro100/B 10/100 NIC   PRO100/B$  40
> > - OR -
> > Osicom 4 Ethernet Port PCI  OLN-2404TX  $ 900
> >
> >  ISA FLASH CARD:
> > 16MB ISA Flash Card (PEP)   CISCO - $ 700
> > - OR -
> > 4MB  ISA Flash Card (??)??  $ --?
> >
> >hsb




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Re: diffie-hellman clarification [7:28438]

2001-12-07 Thread Richard Deal

You're both right--there are two types of man-in-the-middle attacks that can
occur--one is with the initial connection. DH does not provide identity
validation--therefore, you might think your setting up a connection to your
remote site when it is really a man-in-the-middle that you're setting it up
with. To solve this, you can use a Certificate Authority to validate the
remote's identity.

The second problem is when the connection is set up to the "real"
destination, but there is still a "man-in-the-middle" peeking at all of your
traffic. Through the DH key exchange, even though the man-in-the-middle sees
the public keys that are shared, it doesn't see the private keys, nor the
new "secret" key derived from the remote's public and your private.

Hope this helps

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> Ray,
>
> I have worked with diffie-hellman quite a bit.  You have the correct gist
of
> it.  The key to the answer is the word anonymous in the cisco excerpt.
The
> initial diffie-hellman public key exchange is subject to man-in-the-middle
> attacts, if you run this key exchange anonymously.  On the other hand if
you
> do a manual verification of the intitial key exchange, by having the
> recieving end visually check the public key against what the sender is
> sending, then its secure and subsequent key exchanges will be secure.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Brehm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 1:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: diffie-hellman clarification [7:28438]
>
>
> I need a security wizard here...
>
> This question is from certification zone:
>
> Diffie-Hellman exchange prevents what type of attack on secure
> communications?
>
> A.
>
> Denial of service
>
> B.
>
> Session key cryptanalysis
>
> C.
>
> Replay
>
> D.
>
> Man-in-the-middle
>
> Your Answer: D
>
> Correct Choice: d
>
> Answer Explanation
>
> Diffie-Hellman is used in the secure exchange of information from which
> session keys are generated for communications between legitimate users A
> and B. It prevents man-in-the-middle attacks, in which an intruder M
> lies to B, saying it is A, and lies to A, saying it is B. If A and B
> accept M's statement, A and B will both send to M, and M can read or
> change the information flow.
>
>
> This excerpt is from Cisco's website and the Internet Protocol Journal
> 6/98:
>
> * Anonymous Diffie-Hellman: The base Diffie-Hellman algorithm is
>   used, with no authentication. That is, each side sends its public
>   Diffie-Hellman parameters to the other, with no authentication.
>   This approach is vulnerable to man-in-the-middle attacks, in which
>   the attacker conducts anonymous Diffie-Hellman exchanges with both
>   parties.
>
>
> I understand the way Diffie-Hellman works and exchanges public keys
> using a mathematical formula and is vulnerable to man-in-the-middle
> during the original D-H exchange. I also understand how further key
> exchange for data encryption works after D-H is computed. What I'm
> getting at here is what's the Cisco answer? D-H is vulnerable to
> man-in-the-middle during the original exchange but protects the exchange
> of the real key used for data encryption if it is executed successfully.
> The answer to this question could quite possibly be B since once D-H is
> completed successfully it protects the session key. Again, can someone
> clarify what the Cisco answer would be?




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Re: Serial links [7:28270]

2001-12-07 Thread Gaz

Terminology - Hybrid. (maybe)

Reminds me of the days when I used to understand things, or at least my
memory's bad enough to have blurred the truth :-)

Gaz


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> I started working on T-1s in 1969. Actually four wire circuits go way back
> to analog trunk lines. An amplifier works in one direction only. Two wire
> circuits went through a two wire to four wire coil at each end.(can't
> remember the terminology). The circuit was four wire for the long haul.
Each
> transmit was amplified. N carrier circuits again used four wire. The
> channels were seperated by frequency. L carrier used coax. Can't remember
if
> one or two cables as I didn't work on it.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> m
> > Subject: Re: Serial links [7:28270]
> Each side has its own dedicated transmit pair. Big deal. That's been the
> case on WANs since like the 1940s or something. Well, maybe the 1970s.




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Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 02:59 AM 12/7/01, mlh wrote:
>Hi, there,
>
>I read Todd Lammle's CCNA2.0 study guide and found this sentence: "Remember
>that none of the upper
>layers know anything about networking or network addresses." I am wondering
>if the session layer doesn't
>use network address, how can it establish a dialogue with other session
>layer in other host?

According to some experts, the address is the message. See this RFC:

http://www.wildpackets.com/elements/rfcs/RFC1776.TXT

Priscilla



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RE: PIX 506 and 515 price difference ? [7:28462]

2001-12-07 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Look here John,

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/fw.htm#spec

Hth,

Ole

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Subject: PIX 506 and 515 price difference ? [7:28462]


i am sure we have lots of people here would know about
this first hand.
there is almost a difference of more than 5000 bucks
between these two models. what is the difference
between these two models to make such a big
difference. do they run different ios versions. do
they have different processor chips ? is the
difference in their modular structures ?

any other info, please let me know
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Re: Serial links [7:28270]

2001-12-07 Thread Gaz

But with voice it would be OK as long as only one person spoke at once :-)


Gaz

P.S. J for Joke.


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> 1.544 each way. Do some research on T-1. Hint - it originally was designed
> for voice. 24 channels of 64 kbs (1536) each plus framing. I think that
the
> Larscom CSU/DSU manuals have a good tutorial.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> > Subject: Re: Serial links [7:28270]
>
> > Having said that, what are your thoughts on my question about
> > a point to
> > point T1 link at 1.544 Mbps?  Is that 768Kbps each way or
> > 1.544each way?




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Re: inverse-arp enabled? [7:28460]

2001-12-07 Thread MADMAN

If this is a real network, not a lab toy, don't use inverse arp, just
because you can doesn't mean you should.

  IMHO set up p-t-p subinterfaces and define your dlci

  Dave

Danny Cox wrote:
> 
> My understanding is that frame relay inverse arp is enabled by default.
> We have
> a lab built up from 2500s in the main and one 2600, all running 12.1
> 
> We're finding that each time we restart the router we've to set
> 
> frame-relay inverse-arp ip 201
> 
> etc on some of the interfaces .. I forget whether these are DTE/DCE - it
> seems to be
> specifically one.  Can anyone point me to a URL which explains how I can
> fix this
> so it survives a reload?
> 
> many thanks
> 
> Danny
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Frame relay switching [7:28470]

2001-12-07 Thread Tom Gardiner

Folks,

In my Lab, I have been struggling with no progress to configure my IOS based
switch to generate FECN/BECNs so that I may see evidence of my routers
reacting to ECNs.  Has anybody got an example or reference to a complete
scenario illustrating working configs of the switch and client routers? Also
has anyone had sucess with implementing the "frame-relay congestion
management" feature?


Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance

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Re: upgrading the pix [7:28454]

2001-12-07 Thread MADMAN

5.5??

  Dave

george gittins wrote:
> 
> m currently running ios 5.5 on my pix 520, i want to upgrade to ios 6.0 are
> their any special instruction?
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RE: Serial links [7:28270]

2001-12-07 Thread Daniel Cotts

I started working on T-1s in 1969. Actually four wire circuits go way back
to analog trunk lines. An amplifier works in one direction only. Two wire
circuits went through a two wire to four wire coil at each end.(can't
remember the terminology). The circuit was four wire for the long haul. Each
transmit was amplified. N carrier circuits again used four wire. The
channels were seperated by frequency. L carrier used coax. Can't remember if
one or two cables as I didn't work on it.
> -Original Message-
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
m
> Subject: Re: Serial links [7:28270]
Each side has its own dedicated transmit pair. Big deal. That's been the
case on WANs since like the 1940s or something. Well, maybe the 1970s.




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Lab Date swaps [7:28466]

2001-12-07 Thread Arup Chakravarty

Hi, I have my CCIE R/S lab scheduled for JAN 29, 02 in
RTP, NC, but would like to swap with someone for a
date in March or early April.

If you would like to give up your March/April date
please let me know.

Thanks.
Arup.

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Re: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]

2001-12-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

What would a girl be doing at a college? Must be a child genius. Asking her 
to do something other than go to the library or study would be illegal. ;-) 
The correct word for a female human above the age of 18 is WOMAN and don't 
forget that.

Priscilla

At 02:46 PM 12/7/01, Tom Lisa wrote:
>That's what we get for teaching Cisco.  Btw, when I first saw this the punch
>line was "Would you study?"
>
>Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
>Community College of Southern Nevada
>Cisco Regional Networking Academy
>
>"Logan, Harold" wrote:
>
> > For some reason that hasn't happened to me yet. I must be teaching the
> > wrong classes ;)
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:34 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]
> > >
> > >
> > > There was a girl who walked into the
> > > professor's office 1 day before the finals.
> > > "Professor, I'll do anything, just ANYthing you want if I
> > > could just pass
> > > that exam of yours tomorrow" she said in her sweetest voice.
> > > "Anything?" asked the professor..
> > > "Sure, I'll do JUST ANY thing, " she said putting his hand on
> > > her thigh.
> > >
> > > "Well that's wonderful" he replied...
> > > "You have a lot of work to catch up on and only 24 hours left
> > > to do it, why
> > > don't you run to the library before it closes"
> > > 
> > > -Anil
> > >
> >




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Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 02:59 AM 12/7/01, mlh wrote:
>Hi, there,
>
>I read Todd Lammle's CCNA2.0 study guide and found this sentence: "Remember
>that none of the upper
>layers know anything about networking or network addresses." I am wondering
>if the session layer doesn't
>use network address, how can it establish a dialogue with other session
>layer in other host?

I would probably disagree with Todd's statement, although it's taken out of 
context and you haven't given us enough information to say that the 
statement is definitely "wrong."

However, try to picture the numerous OSI pictures you have seen. Most of 
them show horizontal lines between a layer on one host talking to the same 
layer on another host. So the session layer talks to the session layer on 
the other host. That's probably what Todd was getting at.

However, the pictures also show vertical lines. A layer calls on a layer 
below to provide services. Each layer offers services to layers above it.

The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much. But one 
example might help. NetBIOS is a session layer. On a Windows client, when 
you access a Server Message Block (SMB) server, NetBIOS has the job of 
setting up a session with the server. Before it can do that, however, it 
must find the address of the server. If it's a modern Windows network, then 
SMB and NetBIOS are probably running above TCP/IP and UDP/IP. So NetBIOS 
sends a DNS or WINS query to find the IP address of the named server. It 
then sets up a NetBIOS session with the server. Actually, first, the client 
sets up a TCP connection. TCP has port numbers. The client sends to the 
well-known TCP port for NetBIOS session (139) and use an ephemeral port on 
its side. These port numbers could be considered "addresses" at the 
transport layer.

Anyway, back to the question. The statement is at best over-simplified. I 
recommend you get yourself a sniffer and watch what really happens between 
layers. (Ethereal is free by the way.)

Priscilla



>Thank you for your time.
>
>mlh


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Re: ACL Gurus [7:27361]

2001-12-07 Thread Philip Palanchi

Try enabling the interface configuration command "ip accounting
access-violations".
This will log source/destination pairs which fail the access-list on the
interface.

""Scott Nawalaniec""  wrote in message
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> Hi Anil,
>
> To the best of my knowledge and without looking it up at www.cisco.com, I
> think if you put log on the end an access-list statement it will send the
> log to the syslog server. I don't know if that is true in all cases. I
like
> to keep my routers streamed lined.ie unnecessary services and buffers
> turned off=)
>
> OUTPUT from show log:
> Admin_3662#sh log
> Syslog logging: enabled (0 messages dropped, 0 flushes, 0 overruns)
> Console logging: level debugging, 723 messages logged
> Monitor logging: level debugging, 0 messages logged
> Buffer logging: disabled
> Trap logging: level debugging, 727 message lines logged
> Logging to X.X.X.X, 727 message lines logged
>
> HTH,
>
> Scott
>
> -Original Message-
> From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 12:58 PM
> To: Scott Nawalaniec
> Subject: RE: ACL Gurus [7:27361]
>
>
> Scott, If I add an access list with [log] at the end, can I expect to see
> the log by typing:
> "show log"
> At the moment I see nothing.
> I am trying to catch snmp traffic, using snmpwalk.
> port 161, 162.
>
> If I do "debug snmp packets" then I can see some logs.
> Many thanks
> -Anil
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Scott Nawalaniec
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ACL Gurus [7:27361]
>
>
> Thanx for the info and the verification.
>
> Scott
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 7:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ACL Gurus [7:27361]
>
>
> "My understanding is ICMP is not a subset of IP or anything with IP
> protocol.
> ICMP and IP both work at the network layer and are separate protocols."
> Bzzt.  You are the weakest link.  Goodbye ;-)
>
> ICMP is IP protocol 1 (TCP is 6, UDP is 17).  ICMP stands for Internet
> Control Message Protocol, which is a bit of a hint that it might be
related
> to IP (although hardly strong evidence).  According to TCP/IP Illustrated
> (Stevens); "ICMP is often considered part of the IP layer", so you're
> correct there, but "ICMP messages are transmitted within IP datagrams", so
> your "permit ip any any" will permit ICMP.
> And anyway, I use "permit ip any any" to define interesting traffic on
some
> dialup links, and I can bring up the links with a well-directed ping.  So
I
> know IP includes ICMP ;-)
>
> JMcL
> - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 27/11/2001 02:09 pm -
>
>
>
> "Scott
> Nawalaniec"  To:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> [7:27361]
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> by:
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>
>
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> 27/11/2001
> 11:29
> am
>
> Please
> respond
> to
>
> "Scott
>
> Nawalaniec"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Good call on the "access-list 101 permit icmp x.x.54.0 0.0.1.255 any echo
> (equivalent to your
> two lines)"
>
> My understanding is ICMP is not a subset of IP or anything with IP
> protocol.
> ICMP and IP both work at the network layer and are separate protocols. So
> you would not need the "access-list 102 deny icmp any any  (may as well
> block all other icmp)" or "access-list 102 deny icmp any any  (may as well
> block all other icmp)" because the implicit deny at the end should take
> care
> of dropping the unwanted protocols. Please correct me if I am wrong.
>
> What about udp and tcp protocols? The implicit deny would drop all
> protocols
> at the end.
>
> Scott
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 3:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ACL Gurus [7:27361]
>
>
> My view/guestimation only here, so anyone is welcome to pick holes in it:
>
> I would apply 101 (the outgoing access list to the ethernet port). May as
> well drop the rubbish before the router processes it.
> I would also make it:
>
> access-list 101 permit icmp x.x.54.0 0.0.1.255 any echo  (equivalent to
> your
> two lines)
> access-list 101 deny icmp any any (denies all other icmp, otherwise your
> next line allowed everything including icmp)
> access-list 101 permit ip any any
>
> I would apply 102 as you have on the serial interface, with slight change.
>
> access-list 102 permit icmp any any echo-reply  (presumably as you allowed
> echo outgoing, you want the replies)
> access-list 102 deny icmp any any  (may as well block all other icmp)
> access-list 102 permit ip any any
>
> Of course this is just fictional to control icmp only.
> I've changed it about 4 times, so I've no doubt it could take some more
> changes.
>

PIX 506 and 515 price difference ? [7:28462]

2001-12-07 Thread John Green

i am sure we have lots of people here would know about
this first hand.
there is almost a difference of more than 5000 bucks
between these two models. what is the difference
between these two models to make such a big
difference. do they run different ios versions. do
they have different processor chips ? is the
difference in their modular structures ?

any other info, please let me know
thanks
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Re: What is ICMP redirect cache ? [7:28455]

2001-12-07 Thread John Neiberger

Are you absolutely certain you typed "show ip route"?  The output you
are describing is from "show ip redirects".

John

>>> "SUranjith Ariyapperuma"  12/7/01 2:07:14
PM >>>
Dear Friends
When configuring a Cisco 2600 when I issued "sh ip route" I was given
an
empty routing table and "ICMP redirect cache is empty".
What is ICMP redirect cache where can I read about it ?
I would be thankful if some one can point me in the right direction.
Thank you
Suranjith




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inverse-arp enabled? [7:28460]

2001-12-07 Thread Danny Cox

My understanding is that frame relay inverse arp is enabled by default.
We have
a lab built up from 2500s in the main and one 2600, all running 12.1

We're finding that each time we restart the router we've to set

frame-relay inverse-arp ip 201

etc on some of the interfaces .. I forget whether these are DTE/DCE - it
seems to be
specifically one.  Can anyone point me to a URL which explains how I can
fix this
so it survives a reload?

many thanks

Danny




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RE: upgrading the pix [7:28454]

2001-12-07 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Yes,

Burn a CD with the IOS on, and put that and the PIX in a long red sock, and
hang it on your fireplace and wait until Christmas.

If you do not want to wait that long, you should be able to find the
necessary information here:

( - WATCH FOR WORD WRAP - )

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/pix_61/config/upgr
ade.htm

The sock solution is not documented, so I am not sure if it actually works
:-)

Have a great weekend.

Hth,

Ole

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m currently running ios 5.5 on my pix 520, i want to upgrade to ios 6.0 are
their any special instruction?




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Re: Serial links [7:28270]

2001-12-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 10:54 AM 12/7/01, Michael Williams wrote:
>Richard,
>
>Here's the damnest thing tho.  I've asked many networking professionals,
>including two CCIEs (not candidates), and no could seem to know 100% about
>whether serial links were half or full duplex.  Sad, eh?

It's not sad. Most serial, WAN technologies have been full duplex for so 
long that the question just doesn't come up. Each side has a dedicated 
transmit circuit (pair of wires), separate from the receive circuit. On a 
T1 link, to use your example, each side can transmit 1.544 Mbps. The two 
sides can do this simultaneously.

Old style WAN links used a single cable, like the string between two cans 
in the game we played as kids. They were half duplex and required a station 
to send a Go Ahead message to tell the other side it was its turn. You sill 
see remnants of this in protocols used today. Telnet has a Go Ahead message 
for example. (It's not used anymore, though.)

The LAN people stole the "full duplex" term to refer to Ethernet switched, 
point-to-point links, which are no longer really CSMA/CD. They aren't 
multiple access (MA) and since there's no chance of someone else using your 
transmit circuit, there's no need to do CS either. Each side has its own 
dedicated transmit pair. Big deal. That's been the case on WANs since like 
the 1940s or something. Well, maybe the 1970s.

Old-style Ethernet used coax cable. There wasn't a separate transmit and 
receive pair. All devices shared the cable. Think about what a coax cable 
looks like: single, center copper core, surrounded by cladding. Bits sent 
by one station radiate outwards to all other stations who have no choice 
but to receive them. This isn't really "half duplex" and nobody called it 
"half duplex" until the time when the Ethernet people borrowed the term 
"full duplex" to refer to the point-to-point link between a device and its 
switch port.

That's my take, anyway!

Priscilla

>   I'm tempted to
>setup a test with 2 PCs and 2 routers with a low bandwidth connection
>(128Kbps or so) and try to jam traffic through both ways and monitor the
>speeds and see what I get.  But I've got that nagging in the back of my mind
>that you're correct and serial links are indeed full duplex.
>
>Having said that, what are your thoughts on my question about a point to
>point T1 link at 1.544 Mbps?  Is that 768Kbps each way or 1.544each way?
>
>Mike W.
>
>richard beddow wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I have three final comments then I think enough has been said.
> >
> > 1. Ethernet has always been a half duplex standard until recent
> > times, FDX operation is always quoted therefore to make the
> > distinction from the default.
> >
> > 2. Serial lines, however, since the late seventies-early
> > eighties have been by default a full duplex offering.
> > Therefore FDX is assumed unless otherwise stated.
> >
> > 3. My comments were not ment to offend but supposed to be
> > funny.  Humour on a forum such as this is often missread and I
> > should have learnt my leason along time ago but I just can't
> > help it.
> >
> > Charles do you have your answer???
> >
> >
> > RB


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RE: ACL Gurus [7:27361]

2001-12-07 Thread Scott Nawalaniec

Hi Anil,

To the best of my knowledge and without looking it up at www.cisco.com, I
think if you put log on the end an access-list statement it will send the
log to the syslog server. I don't know if that is true in all cases. I like
to keep my routers streamed lined.ie unnecessary services and buffers
turned off=)

OUTPUT from show log:
Admin_3662#sh log
Syslog logging: enabled (0 messages dropped, 0 flushes, 0 overruns)
Console logging: level debugging, 723 messages logged
Monitor logging: level debugging, 0 messages logged
Buffer logging: disabled
Trap logging: level debugging, 727 message lines logged
Logging to X.X.X.X, 727 message lines logged

HTH,

Scott

-Original Message-
From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 12:58 PM
To: Scott Nawalaniec
Subject: RE: ACL Gurus [7:27361]


Scott, If I add an access list with [log] at the end, can I expect to see
the log by typing:
"show log"
At the moment I see nothing.
I am trying to catch snmp traffic, using snmpwalk.
port 161, 162.

If I do "debug snmp packets" then I can see some logs.
Many thanks
-Anil





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Thanx for the info and the verification.

Scott

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"My understanding is ICMP is not a subset of IP or anything with IP
protocol.
ICMP and IP both work at the network layer and are separate protocols."
Bzzt.  You are the weakest link.  Goodbye ;-)

ICMP is IP protocol 1 (TCP is 6, UDP is 17).  ICMP stands for Internet
Control Message Protocol, which is a bit of a hint that it might be related
to IP (although hardly strong evidence).  According to TCP/IP Illustrated
(Stevens); "ICMP is often considered part of the IP layer", so you're
correct there, but "ICMP messages are transmitted within IP datagrams", so
your "permit ip any any" will permit ICMP.
And anyway, I use "permit ip any any" to define interesting traffic on some
dialup links, and I can bring up the links with a well-directed ping.  So I
know IP includes ICMP ;-)

JMcL
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Hello,

Good call on the "access-list 101 permit icmp x.x.54.0 0.0.1.255 any echo
(equivalent to your
two lines)"

My understanding is ICMP is not a subset of IP or anything with IP
protocol.
ICMP and IP both work at the network layer and are separate protocols. So
you would not need the "access-list 102 deny icmp any any  (may as well
block all other icmp)" or "access-list 102 deny icmp any any  (may as well
block all other icmp)" because the implicit deny at the end should take
care
of dropping the unwanted protocols. Please correct me if I am wrong.

What about udp and tcp protocols? The implicit deny would drop all
protocols
at the end.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Gaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 3:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ACL Gurus [7:27361]


My view/guestimation only here, so anyone is welcome to pick holes in it:

I would apply 101 (the outgoing access list to the ethernet port). May as
well drop the rubbish before the router processes it.
I would also make it:

access-list 101 permit icmp x.x.54.0 0.0.1.255 any echo  (equivalent to
your
two lines)
access-list 101 deny icmp any any (denies all other icmp, otherwise your
next line allowed everything including icmp)
access-list 101 permit ip any any

I would apply 102 as you have on the serial interface, with slight change.

access-list 102 permit icmp any any echo-reply  (presumably as you allowed
echo outgoing, you want the replies)
access-list 102 deny icmp any any  (may as well block all other icmp)
access-list 102 permit ip any any

Of course this is just fictional to control icmp only.
I've changed it about 4 times, so I've no doubt it could take some more
changes.

Regards,

Gaz


""Matthew Tayler""  wrote in message
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> Ok I am a little confused here, but
>
> 1. What does access-list 101 actually deny ?
> 2. If you permit all ip are you not also allowing all tcp & udp ?
>
> Matt T
> Jeff wrote:
> >
> > Looking to block icmp-echo on my external router... just want
> > to doublecheck
> > that I'm putting these on the right interfaces. Please,
> > suggestions welcome!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jeff
> > access-list 101 permit icmp x.x.54.0 0.0.0.255 any echo

Re: # of VLANs [7:28425]

2001-12-07 Thread MADMAN

John Neiberger wrote:
> 
> In older IOS versions you had a limited number of Interface Descriptor
> Blocks, or IDBs.  On our 7513 using an RSP4 I believe the limit was 300
> or so, which is pretty easy to run up against if you try.  :-)
> 
> In newer IOS releases--I think after 12.0--the limit was raised to over
> 1000, if I remember right.  Regardless, it's more than we'll ever use
> here.

  Here is how you can find the IDB answer:

C7507MIX#sh idb

Maximum number of IDBs 2048

25 SW IDBs allocated (2432 bytes each)

17 HW IDBs allocated (4216 bytes each)
HWIDB#1   1   ATM0/1/0 (HW IFINDEX, HW ATM)
HWIDB#2   2   ATM1/0/0 (HW IFINDEX, HW ATM)
HWIDB#3   3   Ethernet4/0/0 (HW IFINDEX, Ether)
HWIDB#4   4   Ethernet4/0/1 (HW IFINDEX, Ether)
HWIDB#5   5   Ethernet4/0/2 (HW IFINDEX, Ether)
HWIDB#6   6   Ethernet4/0/3 (HW IFINDEX, Ether)
HWIDB#7   7   Ethernet4/0/4 (HW IFINDEX, Ether)
HWIDB#8   8   Ethernet4/0/5 (HW IFINDEX, Ether)
HWIDB#9   9   Ethernet4/0/6 (HW IFINDEX, Ether)
HWIDB#10  10  Ethernet4/0/7 (HW IFINDEX, Ether)
HWIDB#11  11  Serial4/1/0 (HW IFINDEX, Serial)
HWIDB#12  12  Serial4/1/1 (HW IFINDEX, Serial)
HWIDB#13  13  Serial4/1/2 (HW IFINDEX, Serial)
HWIDB#14  14  Serial4/1/3 (HW IFINDEX, Serial)
HWIDB#15  15  Loopback0 (HW IFINDEX)
HWIDB#16  16  Loopback10 (HW IFINDEX)
HWIDB#17  17  Loopback100 (HW IFINDEX)


> 
> HTH,
> John
> 
> >>> "Maccubbin, Duncan"  12/7/01 12:32:24
> PM >>>
> I have to disagree here. We had a fairly loaded 7200 fail due to having
> too
> many sub-interfaces. I dug around on Cisco's site and found a document
> that
> broke down the amount of memory each sub-interface used. (no, I can't
> find
> it now) We actually got quite a few more than they had it rated for
> but
> there are memory concerns all the same. If your 2600 doesn't have a lot
> of
> memory it will be limited. How many sub-interfaces you talking about?
> How
> much memory does the box have? You may want to consult Cisco if you
> are
> going over 50 or so. Just my $0.02.
> 
> Duncan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: # of VLANs [7:28425]
> 
> I take part of that back, there is an IDB limit but I'm sure your not
> looking at serveral hundred subinterfaces are you?!?
> 
>   dave
> 
> NetEng wrote:
> >
> > How many sub-interfaces can I create for VLAN routing on a router,
> lets
> say
> > a 2600 series? I can't find anything at cisco.
> --
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> 
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What is ICMP redirect cache ? [7:28455]

2001-12-07 Thread SUranjith Ariyapperuma

Dear Friends
When configuring a Cisco 2600 when I issued "sh ip route" I was given an
empty routing table and "ICMP redirect cache is empty".
What is ICMP redirect cache where can I read about it ?
I would be thankful if some one can point me in the right direction.
Thank you
Suranjith


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upgrading the pix [7:28454]

2001-12-07 Thread george gittins

m currently running ios 5.5 on my pix 520, i want to upgrade to ios 6.0 are
their any special instruction?




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Re: # of VLANs [7:28425]

2001-12-07 Thread MADMAN

There are many variables to the number of interfaces you can configure
on a given platform.  We have 7200 routers serving as DSL terminations
points with several hundred subinterface that work just fine.  You do
bring up a good point about the memory though.

  Dave

> I have to disagree here. We had a fairly loaded 7200 fail due to having too
> many sub-interfaces. I dug around on Cisco's site and found a document that
> broke down the amount of memory each sub-interface used. (no, I can't find
> it now) We actually got quite a few more than they had it rated for but
> there are memory concerns all the same. If your 2600 doesn't have a lot of
> memory it will be limited. How many sub-interfaces you talking about? How
> much memory does the box have? You may want to consult Cisco if you are
> going over 50 or so. Just my $0.02.
> 
> Duncan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: # of VLANs [7:28425]
> 
> I take part of that back, there is an IDB limit but I'm sure your not
> looking at serveral hundred subinterfaces are you?!?
> 
>   dave
> 
> NetEng wrote:
> >
> > How many sub-interfaces can I create for VLAN routing on a router, lets
> say
> > a 2600 series? I can't find anything at cisco.
> --
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> CCIE# 2016
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> 612-664-3367
> 
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RE: diffie-hellman clarification [7:28438]

2001-12-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ray,

I have worked with diffie-hellman quite a bit.  You have the correct gist of
it.  The key to the answer is the word anonymous in the cisco excerpt.  The
initial diffie-hellman public key exchange is subject to man-in-the-middle
attacts, if you run this key exchange anonymously.  On the other hand if you
do a manual verification of the intitial key exchange, by having the
recieving end visually check the public key against what the sender is
sending, then its secure and subsequent key exchanges will be secure.



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I need a security wizard here...

This question is from certification zone:

Diffie-Hellman exchange prevents what type of attack on secure 
communications?

A.

Denial of service

B.

Session key cryptanalysis

C.

Replay

D.

Man-in-the-middle

Your Answer: D

Correct Choice: d

Answer Explanation

Diffie-Hellman is used in the secure exchange of information from which 
session keys are generated for communications between legitimate users A 
and B. It prevents man-in-the-middle attacks, in which an intruder M 
lies to B, saying it is A, and lies to A, saying it is B. If A and B 
accept M's statement, A and B will both send to M, and M can read or 
change the information flow.


This excerpt is from Cisco's website and the Internet Protocol Journal 
6/98:

* Anonymous Diffie-Hellman: The base Diffie-Hellman algorithm is
  used, with no authentication. That is, each side sends its public
  Diffie-Hellman parameters to the other, with no authentication.
  This approach is vulnerable to man-in-the-middle attacks, in which
  the attacker conducts anonymous Diffie-Hellman exchanges with both
  parties.


I understand the way Diffie-Hellman works and exchanges public keys 
using a mathematical formula and is vulnerable to man-in-the-middle 
during the original D-H exchange. I also understand how further key 
exchange for data encryption works after D-H is computed. What I'm 
getting at here is what's the Cisco answer? D-H is vulnerable to 
man-in-the-middle during the original exchange but protects the exchange 
of the real key used for data encryption if it is executed successfully. 
The answer to this question could quite possibly be B since once D-H is 
completed successfully it protects the session key. Again, can someone 
clarify what the Cisco answer would be?




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RE: # of VLANs [7:28425]

2001-12-07 Thread John Neiberger

In older IOS versions you had a limited number of Interface Descriptor
Blocks, or IDBs.  On our 7513 using an RSP4 I believe the limit was 300
or so, which is pretty easy to run up against if you try.  :-)

In newer IOS releases--I think after 12.0--the limit was raised to over
1000, if I remember right.  Regardless, it's more than we'll ever use
here.

HTH,
John

>>> "Maccubbin, Duncan"  12/7/01 12:32:24
PM >>>
I have to disagree here. We had a fairly loaded 7200 fail due to having
too
many sub-interfaces. I dug around on Cisco's site and found a document
that
broke down the amount of memory each sub-interface used. (no, I can't
find
it now) We actually got quite a few more than they had it rated for
but
there are memory concerns all the same. If your 2600 doesn't have a lot
of
memory it will be limited. How many sub-interfaces you talking about?
How
much memory does the box have? You may want to consult Cisco if you
are
going over 50 or so. Just my $0.02.

Duncan

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I take part of that back, there is an IDB limit but I'm sure your not
looking at serveral hundred subinterfaces are you?!?

  dave

NetEng wrote:
> 
> How many sub-interfaces can I create for VLAN routing on a router,
lets
say
> a 2600 series? I can't find anything at cisco.
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Cisco Press IDS Book - Recommendation [7:28450]

2001-12-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Did anyone read this book? I want to learn an prepar for the IDS exam.

Cisco Secure Intrusion Detection System, by Earl Carter, Rick
Stiffler.
Cisco Press; ISBN: 158705034X


Thanks,

Hugo




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Re: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]

2001-12-07 Thread Tom Lisa

That's what we get for teaching Cisco.  Btw, when I first saw this the punch
line was "Would you study?"

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy

"Logan, Harold" wrote:

> For some reason that hasn't happened to me yet. I must be teaching the
> wrong classes ;)
>
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> >
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> > -Original Message-
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> > We not prone to liking dumps around here.  You see, there's this thing
> > called a confidentiality agreement.  You know, that pesky
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> > us who have work our tails off to earn a certification or two
> > by reading
> > books, doing installations, asking questions, and buying labs
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> > You know, those of us who care more about the technology than
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> >
> > My feeling is, "to each his own."  If you want to cheat to gain your
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> > it's all mine.  So
> > you go ahead and cheat then wonder why you can't rate amongst
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> >
> > I seem to remember Microsoft had this problem with the MCSE NT4.0
> > certification.  After a while everyone had their MCSE.  Maybe
> > 15% of the
> > MCSE were worth a salt because everyone cheated.  Let's not
> > let this guy
> > decline our value in the market.  I may seem a bit extreme,
> > but we need to
> > ban all of these cheater sites.  They destroy everything we
> > value with the
> > certification.  Even if you only use them to brush up before
> > the test.  If
> > you can't pass the test do more, do cheat!!
> > ccie1ab
> >
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> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 8:08 PM
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Re: Muliple command alias? [7:28413]

2001-12-07 Thread Michael Williams

Found it! 

menu  command  menu-exit

Michael Williams wrote:
> 
> Heh. I used this info and created a test menu in a test
> router.  it's great except I can't find out how to make a
> menu option that EXITS the menu =)
> 
> Mike W.




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RE: # of VLANs [7:28425]

2001-12-07 Thread Maccubbin, Duncan

I have to disagree here. We had a fairly loaded 7200 fail due to having too
many sub-interfaces. I dug around on Cisco's site and found a document that
broke down the amount of memory each sub-interface used. (no, I can't find
it now) We actually got quite a few more than they had it rated for but
there are memory concerns all the same. If your 2600 doesn't have a lot of
memory it will be limited. How many sub-interfaces you talking about? How
much memory does the box have? You may want to consult Cisco if you are
going over 50 or so. Just my $0.02.

Duncan

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From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: # of VLANs [7:28425]


I take part of that back, there is an IDB limit but I'm sure your not
looking at serveral hundred subinterfaces are you?!?

  dave

NetEng wrote:
> 
> How many sub-interfaces can I create for VLAN routing on a router, lets
say
> a 2600 series? I can't find anything at cisco.
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Re: Muliple command alias? [7:28413]

2001-12-07 Thread Michael Williams

Heh. I used this info and created a test menu in a test router. 
it's great except I can't find out how to make a menu option that EXITS the
menu =)

Mike W.


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FW: Lightstream 100 Password Recovery [7:15937]

2001-12-07 Thread Daniel Cotts

Default password is c

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Just for the record (and the archives), the solution for this is to call
Cisco. The solution involves a hidden command, and a special convoluted
password to get into said mode. After getting into that mode, another hidden
command will remove the password, allowing you to reboot the machine and get
prompted for a password after it boots.

I was not able to find this issue before, and I understand why now. Because
of the way the lightstream 100 operates, I asked if this method could be
posted, to help others with this situation, and the rep asked me not to,
that they should call the TAC for assistance. So, this posting is just for
future reference for anyone searching for the same problem.


-chris




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Re: Muliple command alias? [7:28413]

2001-12-07 Thread Michael Williams

Thanks!  I searched through the archives with a variety of search words, but
never found this message.  I guess I need to sharpen my searching skills. =)

Mike W.


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RE: OT-How to find port on switch if you have MAC [7:28429]

2001-12-07 Thread Michael Williams

show cam 


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4500m boot issue [7:28442]

2001-12-07 Thread Eric Rogers

Searched high and low on Cisco. Has anyone here seen this and know what
would cause it on a 4500. Have tried pulling all modules even RAM and flash
and it still occurs. Thanks for any help...


System Bootstrap, Version 5.2(7b) [mkamson 7b], RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1995 by cisco Systems, Inc.

Bad RAM at location 0xA004: wrote 0xA004, read 0x2004




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RE: recomendations on cat 5 type for data center, requested. [7:28441]

2001-12-07 Thread Bullock, Jason

great info on the cam table commands!


question:

I would like to hear from the list members so inclined to read and respond
to this meager cabling question.

With a new data center in mind, (probably gig Ethernet over all 4 pairs of
copper) is there a call to use cat 5 Shielded cable due to the surrounding
equipment, interference, etc...   This seems odd to me, I am thinking just
go with Unshielded Twisted Pair on the Cat 5 runs from say the servers to
the switch, and anywhere not utilizing fiber.   Anyone have any experience
with shielded TP for cat 5?   Is this a real solution, and is it necessary?

Thanks in advance, the list is always entertaining~!

Jason


exert from cisco.com

Shielded twisted-pair cable is the most commonly used cable in Token-Ring
environments. The media interface connectors (MICs) and baluns---used to
connect shielded twisted-pair and unshielded twisted-pair cabling---create a
loopback when they are disconnected; the loopback might cause anomalies with
the switch.




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Re: # of VLANs [7:28425]

2001-12-07 Thread MADMAN

I take part of that back, there is an IDB limit but I'm sure your not
looking at serveral hundred subinterfaces are you?!?

  dave

NetEng wrote:
> 
> How many sub-interfaces can I create for VLAN routing on a router, lets say
> a 2600 series? I can't find anything at cisco.
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Re: # of VLANs [7:28425]

2001-12-07 Thread MADMAN

Until you run out of NVRAM or you peg your CPU

  IOW there is no hard limit

  Dave

NetEng wrote:
> 
> How many sub-interfaces can I create for VLAN routing on a router, lets say
> a 2600 series? I can't find anything at cisco.
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diffie-hellman clarification [7:28438]

2001-12-07 Thread Ray Brehm

I need a security wizard here...

This question is from certification zone:

Diffie-Hellman exchange prevents what type of attack on secure 
communications?

A.

Denial of service

B.

Session key cryptanalysis

C.

Replay

D.

Man-in-the-middle

Your Answer: D

Correct Choice: d

Answer Explanation

Diffie-Hellman is used in the secure exchange of information from which 
session keys are generated for communications between legitimate users A 
and B. It prevents man-in-the-middle attacks, in which an intruder M 
lies to B, saying it is A, and lies to A, saying it is B. If A and B 
accept M's statement, A and B will both send to M, and M can read or 
change the information flow.


This excerpt is from Cisco's website and the Internet Protocol Journal 
6/98:

* Anonymous Diffie-Hellman: The base Diffie-Hellman algorithm is
  used, with no authentication. That is, each side sends its public
  Diffie-Hellman parameters to the other, with no authentication.
  This approach is vulnerable to man-in-the-middle attacks, in which
  the attacker conducts anonymous Diffie-Hellman exchanges with both
  parties.


I understand the way Diffie-Hellman works and exchanges public keys 
using a mathematical formula and is vulnerable to man-in-the-middle 
during the original D-H exchange. I also understand how further key 
exchange for data encryption works after D-H is computed. What I'm 
getting at here is what's the Cisco answer? D-H is vulnerable to 
man-in-the-middle during the original exchange but protects the exchange 
of the real key used for data encryption if it is executed successfully. 
The answer to this question could quite possibly be B since once D-H is 
completed successfully it protects the session key. Again, can someone 
clarify what the Cisco answer would be?




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Password Recovery LS100 [7:28437]

2001-12-07 Thread Circusnuts

Anyone know of the link or have this on an old documentation CD ???  The CCO
seems to exclude this device when it comes to breaking and entering :o)

Thanks
Phil




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LS100 Garble [7:28436]

2001-12-07 Thread Circusnuts

Anyone know how to get rid of this trailing curser garble ???

sswd=c>enable

Input Password:
sswd=c>Phil
***Command name is illegal.

sswd=c>set passworkdd
***Command name is illegal.

sswd=c>set password
***Command name is illegal.

Thanks

Phil




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RE: OT-How to find port on switch if you have MAC [7:28429]

2001-12-07 Thread Stefan Dozier

show cam [mac-address]

Here's a link for future reference

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/rel_5_4/cmd_ref/
sh_a_c.htm#xtocid231346

watch the "nasty' word wrap!

Stefan



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Sorry for the off-topic post, but...

If I have the MAC address of a device and I want to know which port on a Cat
5505 it's plugged into, how I can I find that out?  I assume it's a command
on the switch, but what is it?

Thanks,

--Don

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RE: OT-How to find port on switch if you have MAC [7:28429]

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Odette II

Do a search on Cisco.com for "show CAM", and see what it gets you... then
read thoroughly through it.

You'll go home saying you learned something new today- I promise. :)

Mark Odette II
StellarConnection Services
CCNA, 3/4 CCNP, etc., etc.

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Sorry for the off-topic post, but...

If I have the MAC address of a device and I want to know which port on a Cat
5505 it's plugged into, how I can I find that out?  I assume it's a command
on the switch, but what is it?

Thanks,

--Don

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RE: OT-How to find port on switch if you have MAC [7:28429]

2001-12-07 Thread Kim Edward B

Sh cam (and mac address in AA-BB-CC-DD-EE-FF) format

Or

Sh cam dynamic

Will give you the whole list.


Ed (NP, DP)

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Sorry for the off-topic post, but...

If I have the MAC address of a device and I want to know which port on a Cat

5505 it's plugged into, how I can I find that out?  I assume it's a command 
on the switch, but what is it?

Thanks,

--Don

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Re: OT-How to find port on switch if you have MAC [7:28429]

2001-12-07 Thread Nick

sh mac | inc \.\.

where \.\. is the mac address

sh mac does a complete listing of all the mac addresses it is aware of.

At 09:42 AM 12/7/2001, Don Oxman wrote:
>Sorry for the off-topic post, but...
>
>If I have the MAC address of a device and I want to know which port on a Cat
>5505 it's plugged into, how I can I find that out?  I assume it's a command
>on the switch, but what is it?
>
>Thanks,
>
>--Don
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Re: OT-How to find port on switch if you have MAC [7:28429]

2001-12-07 Thread Jonathan Hays

Don Oxman wrote:
> 
> Sorry for the off-topic post, but...
> 
> If I have the MAC address of a device and I want to know which port on a
Cat
> 5505 it's plugged into, how I can I find that out?  I assume it's a command
> on the switch, but what is it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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load balance 2 isp's-cisco [7:28430]

2001-12-07 Thread balazy peter

a question:  we have 2 sdsl connections (1.5 and 1 mbps) from 2 different
isp providers.  right now, we use one as a back up and connect it manually
if need be.  we will be using a cisco 2621 router with 3 ethernet ports, one
for each of the dsl routers and one to the firewall.  what would be the best
routing protocol to load balance between the two ethernet connections
running to the dsl routers?  igrp since the two connectons are of different
bandwith?  an points towards the right direction will be helpful.

thank
pete


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OT-How to find port on switch if you have MAC [7:28429]

2001-12-07 Thread Don Oxman

Sorry for the off-topic post, but...

If I have the MAC address of a device and I want to know which port on a Cat 
5505 it's plugged into, how I can I find that out?  I assume it's a command 
on the switch, but what is it?

Thanks,

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RE: Redistribution Question [7:28374]

2001-12-07 Thread Stefan Dozier

Well since I need the redistribution practice, figured
I'd plug your config into my pod and see if I could figure
out what gives!

First thing I noticed...and it may just be a typo or dyslexia
(it's an affliction I experience often (smile))if you didn't
cut and paste your configs.
>From your post...

A is connected to B with 10.1.1.100 / 24 - Serial 0

B is connected to A with 10.1.1.1 / 24 - Serial 0
B is connected to C with 192.168.1.17 /28 - Serial 1

doesn't coincide with your posted configs

hostname RouterA
!
interface Serial1
 ip address 10.1.1.100 255.255.255.0
 clockrate 64000

hostname RouterB
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 192.168.1.17 255.255.255.240
 no fair-queue
!
interface Serial1
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0

Second...Here's my plugged in config and all devices have
connectivity to all other devices as expected.

Caveat: only the necessary portions of the config are listed
for brevity and I changed some DTE/DCE interfaces and increased
the clockrate (personal preferrence)!

hostname RouterA
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 10.1.1.100 255.255.255.0
 no fair-queue
!
router ospf 100
 network 10.1.1.100 0.0.0.0 area 1
!
end
!
hostname RouterB
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no fair-queue
 clockrate 400
!
interface Serial1
 ip address 192.168.1.17 255.255.255.240
!
router ospf 100
 network 192.168.1.17 0.0.0.0 area 0
 network 10.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 1
!
end
!
hostname RouterC
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 192.168.1.18 255.255.255.240
 no fair-queue
 clockrate 400
!
interface Serial1
 ip address 192.168.2.49 255.255.255.240
 clockrate 400
!
router ospf 100
 redistribute igrp 200 metric-type 1 subnets
 network 192.168.1.18 0.0.0.0 area 0
 default-metric 10
!
router igrp 200
 redistribute ospf 100
 network 192.168.2.0
 default-metric 1 100 255 1 1500
!
ip route 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 Null0
!
end
!
hostname RouterD
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 192.168.2.50 255.255.255.240
 no fair-queue
!
router igrp 200
 network 192.168.2.0
!
end

HTH

Stefan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Hunt Lee
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Redistribution Question [7:28374]


I need some help on a Redistribution question:

I have setup 4 routers:

Router A - Router B - Router C - Router D

A, B & C are running OSPF, and C & D are running IGRP - I'm trying to
redistribute between OSPF & IGRP routes:

A is connected to B with 10.1.1.100 / 24 - Serial 0

B is connected to A with 10.1.1.1 / 24 - Serial 0
B is connected to C with 192.168.1.17 /28 - Serial 1

C is connected to B with 192.168.1.18 / 28 - Serial 0
C is connected to D with 192.168.2.49 / 28 - Serial 1

D is connected to C with 192.168.2.50 / 28 - Serial 0

However, I could only ping from D to A (& vice versa), but I couldn't ping
from B to D, or D to B
N.B:  D to C (and vice versa) is fine as they are directly connected

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Hunt Lee


Below are the configs for the routers:

Router A
version 11.0

service udp-small-servers

service tcp-small-servers

!

hostname RouterA

!

!

no ip domain-lookup

!

interface Ethernet0

 no ip address

 shutdown

!

interface Serial0

 no ip address

 no fair-queue

 clockrate 64000

!

interface Serial1

 ip address 10.1.1.100 255.255.255.0

 clockrate 64000

!

router ospf 100

 network 10.1.1.100 0.0.0.0 area 1

!

ip host RouterB 10.1.1.1

ip host RouterC 192.168.1.18

ip host RouterD 192.168.2.50

!

line con 0

line aux 0

 transport input all

line vty 0 4

 login

!

end


Router B
version 11.0

service udp-small-servers

service tcp-small-servers

!

hostname RouterB

!

no ip domain-lookup

!

interface Ethernet0

 no ip address

 shutdown

!

interface Serial0

 ip address 192.168.1.17 255.255.255.240

 no fair-queue

!

interface Serial1

 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0

!

router ospf 100

 network 192.168.1.17 0.0.0.0 area 0

 network 10.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 1

!

ip host RouterA 10.1.1.100

ip host RouterC 192.168.1.18

ip host RouterD 192.168.2.50

!

line con 0

line aux 0

 transport input all

line vty 0 4

 login

!

end



Router C

version 12.0

service timestamps debug uptime

service timestamps log uptime

no service password-encryption

!

hostname RouterC

!

!

ip subnet-zero

no ip domain-lookup

ip host RouterA 10.1.1.100

ip host RouterB 192.168.1.17

ip host RouterD 192.168.2.50



!

interface Ethernet0

 no ip address

 no ip directed-broadcast

 shutdown

!

interface Serial0

 ip address 192.168.1.18 255.255.255.240

 no ip directed-broadcast

 no ip mroute-cache

 no fair-queue

 clockrate 64000

!

interface Serial1

 ip address 192.168.2.49 255.255.255.240

 no ip directed-broadcast

 clockrate 64000

!

interface BRI0

 no ip address

 no ip directed-broadcast

 shutdown

!

router ospf 100

 redistribute igrp 200 metric-type 1 subnets

 network 192.168.1.18 0.0.0.0 area 0

 default-metric 

Re: contractor rate [7:28260]

2001-12-07 Thread John Kaberna

I would also add that don't believe everything you read.  I saw some
CCNA/CCNP's with only a few years experience saying they bill $150-200 an
hour.  Sure that might have been true a year or two ago (although that's a
ridiculous rate to pay for a mid level engineer) and probably for very short
term contracts (like a couple of hours).  I highly doubt any of them were
paid that much for a contract of any length.  With the number of unemployed
and somewhat desperate people out there I would say $90-120 an hour for a W2
is excellent in the Bay Area.  I think you will find there are a lot of guys
with comparable experience that are willing to work for less.  A Unix buddy
of mine was charging $130-150 an hour last year and this year I've seen him
work for as low as $42 an hour!  If you have a stable job for something
reasonably close to that I wouldn't be too anxious to make a move.  Its not
unusual to start a new contract and have it terminated a month later.

John Kaberna
CCIE #7146
www.netcginc.com
(415) 750-3800


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> In answer to your direct question, yes that rate is low historically for
> someone with 10 years experience (which in my opinion, vastly outweighs
the
> worth of the  CCIE) in the Bay.   But then of course these are unusual
> times.
>
>
> And yes, in general, as a contractor you cannot expect to be working 40
> consistent hours per week for 50 weeks.  In fact, working 75% of the time
is
> considered to be exceptional.  And in this kind of economy, who knows?
>
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> > >
> > > Just want to have a general feeling about the CCIE contractor rate in
> Bay
> > > area. It is a W2 position, so no accountant, lawyer overhead. Is $90
to
> > 120
> > > low? It is a 1 year contract.  I have 10 year experience and have a
job
> > now.
> > > After browsing this list, i saw so many people talking about $150 and
> > above.
> > > Based on my calculation, $100 and 40 hr a week is about $200k. That's
> > aweful
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RE: AS5200 Memory [7:28366]

2001-12-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

/
It seems that this same subject on the RAM pricing has come 
up before.  I seem to recall that someone had checked the 
speed and pin-out and found that commerically available RAM 
works just as well. 
\

 Original message 
>Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:28:39 -0500
>From: "Daniel Cotts"   
>Subject: RE: AS5200 Memory [7:28366]  
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>I bought some used Flash for 2500s. It had a sticker on it 
that indicated
>that it had come from a 5200.
>Yes, Cisco's overpriced DRAM is my pet peeve. Pricing must 
come from the
>Sales Droid Dept. 
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:18 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: AS5200 Memory [7:28366]
>> 
>> 
>> Has anyone uncovered the speed and pin of the RAM and 
FLASH 
>> for this router
>> ???  We purchased one for the lab @ work and it was 
delivered 
>> with no memory.
>> Cisco wants $800 reseller cost for a stick of RAM.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Phil
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# of VLANs [7:28425]

2001-12-07 Thread NetEng

How many sub-interfaces can I create for VLAN routing on a router, lets say
a 2600 series? I can't find anything at cisco.




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RE: OT - How to get MAC address of remote device when I have [7:28424]

2001-12-07 Thread John Neiberger

If you have network management software running somewhere, it's likely
that you could get that information from there.

Alternately, if you have SNMP running on the device in question, you
could do an snmpget or snmpwalk from another SNMP-enabled station and
get that information.  

HTH,
John

>>> "Provost, Robert"  12/7/01 9:27:48 AM >>>
Unfortunatly the remote router is a 3Com.

-Original Message-
From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:27 AM
To: Provost, Robert; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: OT - How to get MAC address of remote device when I have
the IP [7:28408]


You'll need access to the router that's local to the remote host. View
that router's ARP cache (show ip arp, etc.) and you should be able to
find it.

hth,
Hal Logan
Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty
Computing and Engineering Technology
Manatee Community College


> -Original Message-
> From: Provost, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: OT - How to get MAC address of remote device when I 
> have the IP
> [7:28408]
> 
> 
> Sorry for the off topic post. 
> 
> Does anyone know how I can determine the MAC address of a 
> remote device when
> I do have the IP?  I ping it but my arp cache only shows the local
> addresses.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Robert Provost
> Data Communications Engineer
> Genesis Health Ventures
> Phone: 610-925-1147




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RE: Serial links [7:28270]

2001-12-07 Thread Daniel Cotts

1.544 each way. Do some research on T-1. Hint - it originally was designed
for voice. 24 channels of 64 kbs (1536) each plus framing. I think that the
Larscom CSU/DSU manuals have a good tutorial.

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Subject: Re: Serial links [7:28270]

> Having said that, what are your thoughts on my question about 
> a point to
> point T1 link at 1.544 Mbps?  Is that 768Kbps each way or 
> 1.544each way?




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Re: Hot swappable question [7:28412]

2001-12-07 Thread MADMAN

Yes

  Dave

Raul De La Garza III wrote:
> 
> To anyone who can answer,
> 
> I know that the Catalyst 6509 switch 10/100 modules are hot swappable, but,
> what about the IDS module?  Is the IDS module hot swappable?
> 
> Raul De La Garza III
> 
> "Rome has spoken; the cause is finished."  -St. Augustine (354-430)
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IPsec [7:28421]

2001-12-07 Thread Govind c

My setup...

The s0 of my router is connect to private network and
e0 is connected to internet.Default route is next hop
on the internet(ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 210.23.4.5).

I am planning to implement VPN between my network and
other network.I have configured IKE and Ipsec
my access_list for VPN would be
access_list 101 permit ip 192.16.0.0 0.0.255.255
172.16.3.0 0.0.255.255.

My question

1)Since my default route is to 210.23.4.5,how does my
router establish the VPN when it sees the packet
from 192.16.0.0

2)Would appreciate if anyone could explain step by
step how VPN connection is made?


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Re: OT - How to get MAC address of remote device when I have [7:28420]

2001-12-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- Forwarded by Kevin
Cullimore/FIRNY/NorthAmerica/MCKINSEY on 12/07/2001 11:34 AM
---

To:   "Provost, Robert" 
cc:
From: Kevin Cullimore/FIRNY/NorthAmerica/MCKINSEY
Date: 12/07/2001 11:31:07 AM
Subject: (Document link: Kevin Cullimore) Re: OT - How to get MAC
  address of remote device when I have the IP [7:28408]

if you have snmp read access, querying relevant instances of
1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.6 generally does the trick.




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10:46:26 AM

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  [7:28408]


Sorry for the off topic post.

Does anyone know how I can determine the MAC address of a remote device
when
I do have the IP?  I ping it but my arp cache only shows the local
addresses.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Robert Provost
Data Communications Engineer
Genesis Health Ventures
Phone: 610-925-1147

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Re: Muliple command alias? [7:28413]

2001-12-07 Thread John Neiberger

Robert McCallum posted how to do this a while ago.  Here is that post in
its entirety:



Earlier in the month I posted a question on how you could have
multiple
commands coming from one menu item i.e. user presses key 1 and it shuts
down
an interface.  I have eventually came up with a solution which is
posted
below.  Just in case anyone out there has to do the same.

have a menu which calls a file from the flash and copies it into your
running config

menu EMOS text 1 SHUTDOWN LUCY
menu EMOS command 1 copy slot0:shut91 runn
menu EMOS text 2 SHUTDOWN ANDERSON
menu EMOS command 2 copy slot0:shut92 runn
menu EMOS text 3 SHUTDOWN CUMMING
menu EMOS command 3 copy slot0:shut93 runn
menu EMOS text 4 SHUTDOWN DAVIDSON
menu EMOS command 4 copy slot0:shut94 runn
blah blah blah

the flash looks like 
 2  -rw-10467208   Jan 05 2001 05:12:37  c7200-js-mz.121-4.bin
   15  -rw-  28   May 22 2001 11:01:33  open91
   17  -rw-  28   May 22 2001 11:01:42  open92
   18  -rw-  28   May 22 2001 11:01:47  open93
   19  -rw-  28   May 22 2001 11:01:56  open94
   20  -rw-  28   May 22 2001 11:02:01  open95
   21  -rw-  28   May 22 2001 11:02:06  open96
   22  -rw-  25   May 22 2001 11:02:12  shut91
   23  -rw-  25   May 22 2001 11:02:17  shut92
   24  -rw-  25   May 22 2001 11:02:21  shut93
   25  -rw-  25   May 22 2001 11:02:26  shut94
   26  -rw-  25   May 22 2001 11:02:30  shut95
   27  -rw-  25   May 22 2001 11:02:34  shut96

the file called shut91 looks like

more flash:shut91

int fast0/0.91
shut
end

note the file has to end with "end" otherwise you will have unexpected
end
of file in your logs every time the command is issued.  I used this
menu as
a means for users in a 24 hour by 7 support team who know very little
about
Cisco equipment to allow them to shut or open interfaces depending on
what
is needed.  I had to do this as we have backup servers in a different
location which surprise surprise require the same IP address as its
primary
server.

HTH anyone in the near future.
Robert McCallum



>>> "Michael Williams"  12/7/01 8:58:41 AM >>>
Hello all

Is it possible to create an alias that performs multiple commands?

I've tried all sorts of things between commands like ; and ! and the
alias
executes the first command but that's it..

Thanks!
Mike W.




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Re: Serial links [7:28270]

2001-12-07 Thread MADMAN

I hope your joking.  To go thru all that in order to find documnted
information.  T1's are nothing new nor is full duplex synchronous
communications.

  BTW it's 1.5 in each direction so i spose that makes a T1 a 3M link ;)

  Dave

Michael Williams wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> 
> Sorry for the misread of your humor.  You're correct, sometimes text
doesn't
> convey your true spirit.  Oh well not a thang =)
> 
> Here's the damnest thing tho.  I've asked many networking professionals,
> including two CCIEs (not candidates), and no could seem to know 100% about
> whether serial links were half or full duplex.  Sad, eh?  I'm tempted to
> setup a test with 2 PCs and 2 routers with a low bandwidth connection
> (128Kbps or so) and try to jam traffic through both ways and monitor the
> speeds and see what I get.  But I've got that nagging in the back of my
mind
> that you're correct and serial links are indeed full duplex.
> 
> Having said that, what are your thoughts on my question about a point to
> point T1 link at 1.544 Mbps?  Is that 768Kbps each way or 1.544each way?
> 
> Mike W.
> 
> richard beddow wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I have three final comments then I think enough has been said.
> >
> > 1. Ethernet has always been a half duplex standard until recent
> > times, FDX operation is always quoted therefore to make the
> > distinction from the default.
> >
> > 2. Serial lines, however, since the late seventies-early
> > eighties have been by default a full duplex offering.
> > Therefore FDX is assumed unless otherwise stated.
> >
> > 3. My comments were not ment to offend but supposed to be
> > funny.  Humour on a forum such as this is often missread and I
> > should have learnt my leason along time ago but I just can't
> > help it.
> >
> > Charles do you have your answer???
> >
> >
> > RB
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RE: OT - How to get MAC address of remote device when I have [7:28417]

2001-12-07 Thread Provost, Robert

Unfortunatly the remote router is a 3Com.

-Original Message-
From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:27 AM
To: Provost, Robert; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - How to get MAC address of remote device when I have
the IP [7:28408]


You'll need access to the router that's local to the remote host. View
that router's ARP cache (show ip arp, etc.) and you should be able to
find it.

hth,
Hal Logan
Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty
Computing and Engineering Technology
Manatee Community College


> -Original Message-
> From: Provost, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT - How to get MAC address of remote device when I 
> have the IP
> [7:28408]
> 
> 
> Sorry for the off topic post. 
> 
> Does anyone know how I can determine the MAC address of a 
> remote device when
> I do have the IP?  I ping it but my arp cache only shows the local
> addresses.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Robert Provost
> Data Communications Engineer
> Genesis Health Ventures
> Phone: 610-925-1147




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