Re: differernce between these statments.... [7:36595]

2002-02-26 Thread jhun de leon

depends if this is the *only* statement in your ACL

Ziyad wrote:

> Hi All
>  Can anyone please tell me  the difference between the folowing
> statements.
> 
> 1) deny tcp any any
> 2) deny ip any any
> 3) deny any any
> 
> Ziyaad




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DSL PRESENTION [7:36611]

2002-02-26 Thread Mahesh

Hi,

Can some tell me about the DSL presentation about technology.




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Re: Monitoring Cisco Router through MRTG [7:36598]

2002-02-26 Thread Kevin Cullimore

If the router is set up to allow SNMP read access, it will respond to
requests for many of the generic (MGMT: 1.3.6.1.2.1) objects.

So, medium independent error statistics may be gathered on a per-interface
basis by querying relevant instances of 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.14 (inbound)and
1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20 (outbound).

IIRC, layer-2-technology-specific data may be found in branches of
1.3.6.1.2.1.10 (transmission), including more relevant and detailed error
counters.

You might be able to get similar information from the proprietary cisco
MIBs, but using the generic ones where possible tends to simplify your MRTG
implementation in multi-vendor environments.

The specifications for the MGMT object definitions are available via several
RFCs/STDs.


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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:15 AM
Subject: Monitoring Cisco Router through MRTG [7:36598]


> Hi All
>
> Can anyone tell me if I can use MRTG for monitoring CRC errors or
broadcast
> ??? I am already running MRTG for monitoring Bandwidth and CPU Utilization
> ...What are other things in a Ciso Router that can be meausured through
> MRTG.
>
> Ziyaad




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RE: TRAFFICC MONITORING [7:36602]

2002-02-26 Thread Georg Pauwen

Hello Yassel,

it depends on what kind of money you are willing to spend. You could use the
Cisco Internetwork Performance Monitor. Go to
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/wr2k/nemo/prodlit/ipm2_ov.htm
for an overview.
A cheaper way (it is actually free) and quite nice tool is the Multi Router
Traffic Grapher (MRTG). Go to
http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/
where you can download it.

Regards,

Georg


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Re: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix [7:36574]

2002-02-26 Thread Jason

They will sell anything on eBay  So who was the clown ? Anybody we know
in this forum. ??


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> Oh, and fourth, check around EBay, there is one idiot who has cloned the
PIX
> and decided to put it on EBay.  So there's your move beyond tinkering.




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Re: speaking of PIX clones [7:36593]

2002-02-26 Thread Chuck

if you ever want to see something funny, tell a customer in the presence of
a Cisco account team that the customer should sell his old stuff on eBay
rather than trade it in to Cisco.

if looks could kill...

on a more serious note, while Cisco can make a very good legal case against
folks who buy used routers, then download new IOS images, I think it might
be very difficult for them to take legal action against people who sell used
Cisco equipment, or those who buy. This ground has already been covered with
used PC's, used IBM computer and terminal equipment, used cars, used books,
etc etc etc.


""Mike Sweeney""  wrote in message
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> I just heard from a friend that a SonicWall rep was saying(dont you love
5th
> hand news) that Cisco is planning to crack down on PIXes being resold on
> Ebay by killing any and all support for them. No smartnet, no software, no
> activation keys etc..
>
> I personally think it is a bunch of hooyie.. The number of PIX units being
> sold 2nd hand on Ebay is a grain of sand compared to national/world sales
of
> new units and to expend that much effort, ill will and bad karma really
> doesnt strike me as the "cisco way" of doing business. MS maybe.. but not
> cisco.
>
> Am I off base here?  even if it's a bunch of crap, it makes for some
> interesting thoughts.. whats next? no support for used routers? switches ?
> talk about killing the goose that lays golden eggs..
>
> MikeS




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RE: feature packs and licenses [7:36555]

2002-02-26 Thread Jeffrey Reed

I'm a reseller and I asked my Cisco rep about customers who purchased used
equipment from Ebay, back of pick-ups, street corners etc. I was told Cisco
has no problem with an end user selling their hardware, but the software
license is not transferable. This means the IOS you are using on your used
router is not legal, so it's no different than getting a copy of a Microsoft
CD and license key to run their software for free. Cisco will sell you the
IOS by itself, but it's probably as much as a refurbished router from a
"certified" resource. So if you're OK with pirating software, then you
should be OK using your router with unlicensed IOS. You should not be able
to get SmartNet either, but that assumes their serial number tracking is
done correctly.

Jeffrey Reed
Classic Networking, Inc.

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Subject: feature packs and licenses [7:36555]

I'm a little confused about the licensing with regards to routers.  Someone
indicated to me recently that they could tell from a show ver that the
router in question wasn't running the code it was shipped with, but I
didn't get time to check this out further.  How would they tell this?

More to the point, if I buy a router from ebay to build up my lab, do I
need to be separately buying an IOS pack ?  I read through the license
agreement on the software download part of Cisco's site and find myself
no further forward - it would suggest that feature packs have to be sold
with a router, and possibly even that second hand feature packs won't do
but new ones need to be bought from Cisco..

anyone comment and clarify this for me?




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RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix [7:36583]

2002-02-26 Thread Frank Jimenez

Jason,
  This is a **really bad idea** (tm)

  Assuming that this is for a lab :-) , a better idea would be to go
ahead and buy a PIX 501 - you should be able to do most of the tasks
required by the CCIE Security lab on that.

  And don't worry about the karma, there aren't any dumb questions,
unless you break NDA.

Frank Jimenez, CCIE #5738
Systems Engineer
Cisco Systems, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:33 PM
To: 'Athony Jones'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix?


Nice purchase on the flash card, btw

However, this is not a wise move.  Bad karma to do this installation
anyway...

Worse karma to ask for help on a public list with numerous Cisco people
on it! (grin)

Anyway, the activation key is tied to the serial number, which of course
is on the flash card.  Now you can get a 56-bit DES key for free,
although I still wouldn't admit how you're using the card in your own
box. :)

You may want to get a Yahoo  account and then a new CCO account to get a
little anonymity behind you! (grin)

Anyway.  Have fun!

-Original Message-
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Athony Jones
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix?


Hi Everyone,
After struggling for the past two days, I have
successfully cloned a Pix firewall by using my PC.
I plug the 16MB flash card into the PC's ISA slot
and the PC recognize that it is a Pix flash card
(cost me $400.00). It boots up fine and everything
seems to be in order.  However, after the boot up
sequence, it asks me for the activation key.  I've
been trying many different possible scenarios without
much success.  I even tried to use the activation key
from another Pix firewall but that doesn't work
either.

Anybody know how I can fake my clone Pix with a
fake activation key?  By the way,I am running Pix OS
code version 6.1(2). I even tried 5.3(1), 5.3(2),
6.0(1) and 6.1(1) and one of them works.  By the way,
the PC has 128MB of RAM and a 16Mb Flash ISA card.
I tried to clone a Pix520.

Please help.

Jason

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RE: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]

2002-02-26 Thread Tim Booth

>BTW - Tim? Drop the 'CCIE Written' 'bit' from you acronym
collection...it
>ain't cool no more :)

BTW - Oliver?

   Appending "CCIE written" isn't to be "cool." It's not to pretend I'm
a CCIE. It's to let others know how far my progress is in achieving my
goal, where I'm at in an educational standpoint etc. It is purely a
shorthand version of "I have passed a CCIE written test." It would be
the equivalent of saying something like "I'm in college," if college and
studying to be a CCIE were comparable. In your head you can append
"Studied hard and passed a CCIE written exam." I'm not claiming to be a
CCIE, but I am claiming to be actively studying towards being one.

   As far as my certifications, I have studied very hard to earn them,
and in no sense are they simply an "acronym collection." In my case,
treating them as such is inappropriate.

   If you have further issues, please email me off-list.

Kind Regards,
Tim Booth
MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written
-
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix [7:36574]

2002-02-26 Thread Scott Morris

First, Jason made an observation, not a threat. :)

Second, there's a fine line between lab and real-life with things like that,
and I could certainly appreciate that aspect...  It's one thing to do it on
your own and "tinker", it's another to post stuff blatantly in a public
forum.  If nothing else, perhaps everyone else isn't quite so ethical as
yourself about it?

Third, the Juniper Olives were blessed by Juniper in the beginning, so it's
not like they're a random hack...  Now, however, they aren't, and the there
is a plausible threat from Juniper about dissemination of that information.

Oh, and fourth, check around EBay, there is one idiot who has cloned the PIX
and decided to put it on EBay.  So there's your move beyond tinkering.

Now that all that is done, can we get back to studying?  :)

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Roger Sohn
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:12 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix?


Now, nowlet's not threaten each other.   I'm sure the guy is just
messing around with this to see if it's possible to get the contraption to
just work.  Besides, what's the big deal anyway?  I doubt he has any
intentions of selling anything or doing something outrageous like that
anyway.  It's sort of interesting anyway - like the whole idea of porting
the JunOS onto a unix box and seeing if you can still capture most of the
functionality of their routers.

-Original Message-
From: Jason Sullivan
To: Athony Jones; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2/26/2002 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix?

You should take the 400 you spent and buy a 501.  I promise it will be
less
than your legal fees if Cisco were to get involved.


Jason Sullivan
Systems Engineer
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Athony Jones
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix?

Hi Everyone,
After struggling for the past two days, I have
successfully cloned a Pix firewall by using my PC.
I plug the 16MB flash card into the PC's ISA slot
and the PC recognize that it is a Pix flash card
(cost me $400.00). It boots up fine and everything
seems to be in order.  However, after the boot up
sequence, it asks me for the activation key.  I've
been trying many different possible scenarios without
much success.  I even tried to use the activation key
from another Pix firewall but that doesn't work
either.

Anybody know how I can fake my clone Pix with a
fake activation key?  By the way,I am running Pix OS
code version 6.1(2). I even tried 5.3(1), 5.3(2),
6.0(1) and 6.1(1) and one of them works.  By the way,
the PC has 128MB of RAM and a 16Mb Flash ISA card.
I tried to clone a Pix520.

Please help.

Jason

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RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix [7:36569]

2002-02-26 Thread Roger Sohn

Now, nowlet's not threaten each other.   I'm sure the guy is just
messing around with this to see if it's possible to get the contraption to
just work.  Besides, what's the big deal anyway?  I doubt he has any
intentions of selling anything or doing something outrageous like that
anyway.  It's sort of interesting anyway - like the whole idea of porting
the JunOS onto a unix box and seeing if you can still capture most of the
functionality of their routers.  

-Original Message-
From: Jason Sullivan
To: Athony Jones; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2/26/2002 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix?

You should take the 400 you spent and buy a 501.  I promise it will be
less
than your legal fees if Cisco were to get involved.


Jason Sullivan
Systems Engineer
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Athony Jones
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix?

Hi Everyone,
After struggling for the past two days, I have
successfully cloned a Pix firewall by using my PC.
I plug the 16MB flash card into the PC's ISA slot
and the PC recognize that it is a Pix flash card
(cost me $400.00). It boots up fine and everything
seems to be in order.  However, after the boot up
sequence, it asks me for the activation key.  I've
been trying many different possible scenarios without
much success.  I even tried to use the activation key
from another Pix firewall but that doesn't work
either.

Anybody know how I can fake my clone Pix with a
fake activation key?  By the way,I am running Pix OS
code version 6.1(2). I even tried 5.3(1), 5.3(2),
6.0(1) and 6.1(1) and one of them works.  By the way,
the PC has 128MB of RAM and a 16Mb Flash ISA card.
I tried to clone a Pix520.

Please help.

Jason

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RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix [7:36567]

2002-02-26 Thread Jason Sullivan

You should take the 400 you spent and buy a 501.  I promise it will be less
than your legal fees if Cisco were to get involved.


Jason Sullivan
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Athony Jones
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix?

Hi Everyone,
After struggling for the past two days, I have
successfully cloned a Pix firewall by using my PC.
I plug the 16MB flash card into the PC's ISA slot
and the PC recognize that it is a Pix flash card
(cost me $400.00). It boots up fine and everything
seems to be in order.  However, after the boot up
sequence, it asks me for the activation key.  I've
been trying many different possible scenarios without
much success.  I even tried to use the activation key
from another Pix firewall but that doesn't work
either.

Anybody know how I can fake my clone Pix with a
fake activation key?  By the way,I am running Pix OS
code version 6.1(2). I even tried 5.3(1), 5.3(2),
6.0(1) and 6.1(1) and one of them works.  By the way,
the PC has 128MB of RAM and a 16Mb Flash ISA card.
I tried to clone a Pix520.

Please help.

Jason

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speaking of PIX clones [7:36593]

2002-02-26 Thread Mike Sweeney

I just heard from a friend that a SonicWall rep was saying(dont you love 5th
hand news) that Cisco is planning to crack down on PIXes being resold on
Ebay by killing any and all support for them. No smartnet, no software, no
activation keys etc..

I personally think it is a bunch of hooyie.. The number of PIX units being
sold 2nd hand on Ebay is a grain of sand compared to national/world sales of
new units and to expend that much effort, ill will and bad karma really
doesnt strike me as the "cisco way" of doing business. MS maybe.. but not
cisco.

Am I off base here?  even if it's a bunch of crap, it makes for some
interesting thoughts.. whats next? no support for used routers? switches ? 
talk about killing the goose that lays golden eggs..

MikeS



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Re: BGP metrics [7:36596]

2002-02-26 Thread Chuck

how does the router know?  I would imagine the router OS checks the BGP
origin. If I am AS 559 and I receive a BGP route that originates in AS 559,
it is either iBGP, or I have a loop. If AS 559 is the only AS in the AS
path, it follows that it is an iBGP route, and therefore is assigned an AD
of 200.

make sense?



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> preferred than EIGRP and the other interior RPs, is that correct?  (one
week
> until R&S qual. exam)




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Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]--long reply [7:36566]

2002-02-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, according to a voice manual I have, "Lower bandwidths need less 
expensive equipment, which affects the sound quality... this was 
determined to be the best cost-performance trade-off". 
So I think it was reasonably arbitrary.  My ancient but still useful 
Tanenbaum (Computer Networks) doesn't seem to give any reason, which sort 
of supports that.  Horak's "Communications Systems and Networks" agrees 
that it "is considered sufficient for voice communications and certainly 
is more cost-effective than if full-fidelity voice were to be supported."
And by the way, most references I have refer to the range as being 200 Hz 
to 3500 Hz, not 4000Hz - for noise I think - Nyquist assumes a noise-less 
channel. 

So... you're trying to study, I'm about to give up trying to work today 
;-)

JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 27/02/2002 05:15 pm -


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I understand all that, but what I don't remember is why there 
is a 4KHz low-pass filter on voice lines.  I know I've read the 
reason before but I just can't recall what it was.  Was it 
simply arbitrary?  A 4KHz upper limit is obviously sufficient 
for voice quality.  Did someone just pick that limit and filter 
out everything above it, possibly to filter noise or something?

Hmm...this is bugging me now.  :-)

But I can't be distracted right now, I'm trying to 
study...which explains why I keep taking time out to check my 
email and search the internet for MP3s of Clannad.  :-)  I did 
just find a killer sampler of Celtic stuff.  Very relaxing...

John



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wrote:

> All right, John--
> 
> A couple of years ago (discreet cough), Cisco gave away 
copies of books
> as
> promos. One was _IP Telephony_ by Gorlaski and Kolon (McGraw 
Hill,
> 2000).
> GOOD BOOK. On pp 77-78 is an explanation of the Nyquist rate 
and voice
> sampling:
> 
> "...Thus, if an analog voice signal reaching up to 3400Hz is 
to be
> sampled
> at the Nyquist rate, the sampling frequency must be at least 
twice that,
> or
> 6800Hz, or samples per second.
> 
> "Sampling does not have to be done at the Nyquist rate. The 
Nyquist rate
> is
> a minimal requirement to reproduce the input waveform, but 
sampling can
> be
> done at rates higher or lower than the Nyquist rate. If 
sampling takes
> place
> at rates lower than the Nyquist rate, the result is 
distortion of the
> waveform known as (italics) aliasing. Aliasing just means 
that there is
> more
> than one output waveform that fits the 'connect the dots' 
pattern of the
> samples. There is no aliasing ast the Nyquist rate and above."
> 
> They go on to point out that, by sampling at a rate above the 
Nyquist
> rate,
> you have more than the minimum required information to 
reliably
> reconstruct
> the voice signal at the destination. This allows you to lose 
a few
> samples
> in transit (not that such things would ever happen, of 
course) and still
> have only one possible reconstruction. Sampling at 8000Hz 
means there is
> a
> 4000Hz voice bandwidth (overly generous but convenient 
because 4 is a
> power
> of 2 and that makes it easier to code in a binary system).
> 
> And from the 8000 samples/sec, each of which sends 1 8-bit 
word, we have
> the
> DS0 of 64000 bps (why only 56000 bps may be usable is a 
separate issue,
> having to do with signaling on telephone links).
> 
> Annlee
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > This is OT, but the upper limit of human hearing is actually
> > around 20KHz at best and usually drops to around 16KHz or 
so.
> > If your upper limit starts to drop below that you'll start 
to
> > notice that it's difficult to hear clearly.  (Sorry, in my
> > other life I'm a sound engineer and musician.)
> >
> > I've heard that the 4KHz limit is because there is a low-
pass
> > filter used for voice.  I can't remember the exact reason, 
but
> > that information plugged into the Nyquist theorem explains--
as
> > Priscilla mentions--why a DS0 is 64Kbps.
> >
> > Okay, time to do some serious studying once I'm through 
being
> > lazy and drinking this coffee...
> >
> > John
> >
> >  On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > > At 08:06 PM 2/26/02, Rafay wrote:
> > > >How do you describe Sample Rate.?
> > >
> > > In what context? The term is sometimes used when 
describing
> > the analog
> > > to
> > > digital process, for example when digitizing voice. Voice
> > produces an
> > > analog wave as your lungs and tongue press against the 
air.
> > An analog
> > > wave
> > > has infinite possible va

RE: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-02-26 Thread Larry Letterman

In the Cvoice class I attended, my instructor answered the reason why
it was 4K as there were 2 groups wanting different rates, so the compromise
between them was 4k. None of my IP Telephony course books or Cisco Press
books for the class re-iterate that, but I recall hearing it...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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Exactly, that's what Priscilla and I both just said.  :-)

What I'm trying to find out is why the original 4KHz limit on
voice calls was put into place.  It sounds like it was simply
an arbitrary decision.  4KHz is sufficient for a telephone call
and to provide clear calls that included higher frequencies
might have added some technical complexities, perhaps.

They also added a high-pass filter around 400Hz since most
telephones can't reproduce low frequencies well and it also
filters out some harmonics of 50-60Hz hum that might show up
from time to time.  That is concrete reason for including a
high-pass filter and I wondered if there was a concrete
technical reason for including the 4KHz low-pass filter. From
the sounds of it there really isn't a technical issue, 4K is
just a nice round number.  :-)

I've actually read that they limit it to around 3.4KHz, but if
you sample that at 8KHz you'd be well above the Nyquist limit.

John



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 On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Brian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> 64 kbps comes about from sampling 8 bits at 8khz, 8x8000=64000
>
>
>   Bri
>
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, John Neiberger wrote:
>
> > This is OT, but the upper limit of human hearing is actually
> > around 20KHz at best and usually drops to around 16KHz or
so.
> > If your upper limit starts to drop below that you'll start
to
> > notice that it's difficult to hear clearly.  (Sorry, in my
> > other life I'm a sound engineer and musician.)
> >
> > I've heard that the 4KHz limit is because there is a low-
pass
> > filter used for voice.  I can't remember the exact reason,
but
> > that information plugged into the Nyquist theorem explains--
as
> > Priscilla mentions--why a DS0 is 64Kbps.
> >
> > Okay, time to do some serious studying once I'm through
being
> > lazy and drinking this coffee...
> >
> > John
> >
> >  On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > > At 08:06 PM 2/26/02, Rafay wrote:
> > > >How do you describe Sample Rate.?
> > >
> > > In what context? The term is sometimes used when
describing
> > the analog
> > > to
> > > digital process, for example when digitizing voice. Voice
> > produces an
> > > analog wave as your lungs and tongue press against the
air.
> > An analog
> > > wave
> > > has infinite possible values. Computers can't deal with
> > infinity. They
> > > work
> > > with discreet numbers. The solution is to sample the
analog
> > voice many
> > > times per second. Sampling means to take a snapshot.
> > >
> > > The sample rate is how often the analog wave is sampled.
> > Nyquist showed
> > > that you have to sample at twice the rate of the highest
> > frequency that
> > > may
> > > occur in the original data. Most humans don't output (and
> > can't hear)
> > > anything about 4 KHz. So sample 8,000 times per second
(8Khz)
> > and the
> > > result will be good enough. When using a sample rate of
8,000
> > KHz, if
> > > each
> > > sample is saved in an 8-bit byte, the resulting data rate
is
> > 64 Kbps.
> > > That's one DS0. Compression allows us to use a smaller
data
> > rate, with
> > > some
> > > loss in fidelity.
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > > 
> > >
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > http://www.priscilla.com
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > 
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RE: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-02-26 Thread G Z

The reason is for economics. The 300hz filter to 3300hz filter would carry
the voice fairly well so this is the least amount of bandwidth to do a
decent job of it. Not too much is lost because the voice is between
100 to 5000 hz. The hearing range is not considered as far as I know...


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TRAFFICC MONITORING [7:36602]

2002-02-26 Thread Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay

Hello does anybody knows some tool to monitoring the traffic accross Cisco?
Thanx in advance
Yassel




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Re: HELP!Which type of cisco switching support CAR? [7:36466]

2002-02-26 Thread suaveguru

in order to run CEF needs to be configured 


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> switches.
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Re: Re: LLQ Configuration [7:36272]

2002-02-26 Thread John Neiberger

> You create a Class-map here called "match-all video"
> 
> >
> > Policy-map video-police
> > class video
> > priority 540
> > class class-default
> > fair-queue 64
> 
> Yet you apply a class-map called video here, should you be 
using
> "match-all
> video"??
> 

When configuring a class map you can add multiple match 
statements.  If you need to only match at least one of them you 
can add the 'match-any' keyword.  If you must match all 
statements then you use 'match-all'.  This is a keyword, not 
part of the class map name.

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Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-02-26 Thread John Neiberger

Exactly, that's what Priscilla and I both just said.  :-)  

What I'm trying to find out is why the original 4KHz limit on 
voice calls was put into place.  It sounds like it was simply 
an arbitrary decision.  4KHz is sufficient for a telephone call 
and to provide clear calls that included higher frequencies 
might have added some technical complexities, perhaps.

They also added a high-pass filter around 400Hz since most 
telephones can't reproduce low frequencies well and it also 
filters out some harmonics of 50-60Hz hum that might show up 
from time to time.  That is concrete reason for including a 
high-pass filter and I wondered if there was a concrete 
technical reason for including the 4KHz low-pass filter. From 
the sounds of it there really isn't a technical issue, 4K is 
just a nice round number.  :-)

I've actually read that they limit it to around 3.4KHz, but if 
you sample that at 8KHz you'd be well above the Nyquist limit.

John



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 On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Brian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> 64 kbps comes about from sampling 8 bits at 8khz, 8x8000=64000
> 
> 
>   Bri
> 
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, John Neiberger wrote:
> 
> > This is OT, but the upper limit of human hearing is actually
> > around 20KHz at best and usually drops to around 16KHz or 
so.
> > If your upper limit starts to drop below that you'll start 
to
> > notice that it's difficult to hear clearly.  (Sorry, in my
> > other life I'm a sound engineer and musician.)
> >
> > I've heard that the 4KHz limit is because there is a low-
pass
> > filter used for voice.  I can't remember the exact reason, 
but
> > that information plugged into the Nyquist theorem explains--
as
> > Priscilla mentions--why a DS0 is 64Kbps.
> >
> > Okay, time to do some serious studying once I'm through 
being
> > lazy and drinking this coffee...
> >
> > John
> >
> >  On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > > At 08:06 PM 2/26/02, Rafay wrote:
> > > >How do you describe Sample Rate.?
> > >
> > > In what context? The term is sometimes used when 
describing
> > the analog
> > > to
> > > digital process, for example when digitizing voice. Voice
> > produces an
> > > analog wave as your lungs and tongue press against the 
air.
> > An analog
> > > wave
> > > has infinite possible values. Computers can't deal with
> > infinity. They
> > > work
> > > with discreet numbers. The solution is to sample the 
analog
> > voice many
> > > times per second. Sampling means to take a snapshot.
> > >
> > > The sample rate is how often the analog wave is sampled.
> > Nyquist showed
> > > that you have to sample at twice the rate of the highest
> > frequency that
> > > may
> > > occur in the original data. Most humans don't output (and
> > can't hear)
> > > anything about 4 KHz. So sample 8,000 times per second 
(8Khz)
> > and the
> > > result will be good enough. When using a sample rate of 
8,000
> > KHz, if
> > > each
> > > sample is saved in an 8-bit byte, the resulting data rate 
is
> > 64 Kbps.
> > > That's one DS0. Compression allows us to use a smaller 
data
> > rate, with
> > > some
> > > loss in fidelity.
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > > 
> > >
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > http://www.priscilla.com
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > 
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Monitoring Cisco Router through MRTG [7:36598]

2002-02-26 Thread Ziyad

Hi All

Can anyone tell me if I can use MRTG for monitoring CRC errors or broadcast
??? I am already running MRTG for monitoring Bandwidth and CPU Utilization
...What are other things in a Ciso Router that can be meausured through
MRTG.

Ziyaad




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Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-02-26 Thread Brian

64 kbps comes about from sampling 8 bits at 8khz, 8x8000=64000


Bri

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, John Neiberger wrote:

> This is OT, but the upper limit of human hearing is actually
> around 20KHz at best and usually drops to around 16KHz or so.
> If your upper limit starts to drop below that you'll start to
> notice that it's difficult to hear clearly.  (Sorry, in my
> other life I'm a sound engineer and musician.)
>
> I've heard that the 4KHz limit is because there is a low-pass
> filter used for voice.  I can't remember the exact reason, but
> that information plugged into the Nyquist theorem explains--as
> Priscilla mentions--why a DS0 is 64Kbps.
>
> Okay, time to do some serious studying once I'm through being
> lazy and drinking this coffee...
>
> John
>
>  On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Priscilla Oppenheimer
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > At 08:06 PM 2/26/02, Rafay wrote:
> > >How do you describe Sample Rate.?
> >
> > In what context? The term is sometimes used when describing
> the analog
> > to
> > digital process, for example when digitizing voice. Voice
> produces an
> > analog wave as your lungs and tongue press against the air.
> An analog
> > wave
> > has infinite possible values. Computers can't deal with
> infinity. They
> > work
> > with discreet numbers. The solution is to sample the analog
> voice many
> > times per second. Sampling means to take a snapshot.
> >
> > The sample rate is how often the analog wave is sampled.
> Nyquist showed
> > that you have to sample at twice the rate of the highest
> frequency that
> > may
> > occur in the original data. Most humans don't output (and
> can't hear)
> > anything about 4 KHz. So sample 8,000 times per second (8Khz)
> and the
> > result will be good enough. When using a sample rate of 8,000
> KHz, if
> > each
> > sample is saved in an 8-bit byte, the resulting data rate is
> 64 Kbps.
> > That's one DS0. Compression allows us to use a smaller data
> rate, with
> > some
> > loss in fidelity.
> >
> > Priscilla
> > 
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
>
>
> 
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BGP metrics [7:36596]

2002-02-26 Thread Thom Castognalia

How does a router assign an iBGP AD vs. an eBGP AD?  The iBGP AD is less
preferred than EIGRP and the other interior RPs, is that correct?  (one week
until R&S qual. exam)


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differernce between these statments.... [7:36595]

2002-02-26 Thread Ziyad

Hi All
 Can anyone please tell me  the difference between the folowing
statements.

1) deny tcp any any
2) deny ip any any
3) deny any any

Ziyaad




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RE: Current CD Rom Documentation [7:35930]

2002-02-26 Thread Ken Corkins

Option 1: Purchase a Cisco router or switch, it comes with a copy of the
documentation. (although you might get an older version, based on when
the CD was packed in the box).

Option 2: Go to http://www.cisco.com/go/marketplace Click on the Cisco
Company Store, and then on Subscriptions. You can get a Quarterly or
Monthy subscription to the documentation  CD.


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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:18 PM
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Subject: Current CD Rom Documentation [7:35930]


Does anyone know where or how to obtain a current Cisco CD Rom
documentation CD with the latest IOS of like 12.2 on it without like
taking an official Cisco course from a Training partner? I have a bunch
of them are outdated with only up to IOS 12.1. They certainley seem to
be difficult to navigate and do a search on . Any suggestions welcome.
Thank you, Randy




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Re: LLQ Configuration [7:36272]

2002-02-26 Thread Hunt Lee

Steve,

I'm not sure if there is a typo on your config, please see in-line...

Lee


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> To Group:
>
> I am working with a client who is having problems with Video Conference
> using Polycom Equipment. The problem is jitter and audio drops.
>
> The solution that has been suggested to us by Cisco Low Latency Queueing
> (LLQ)
> over Frame Relay.
>
> I'm not sure the release but I was told this is a new feature for Frame
> Relay.
> We were instructed to upgrade to 12.2.6a IP Plus Feature Set...
>
> We did this..
>
> This particular client has one DLCI on the physical interface, the port
> speed of the interface
> is 768kb. This is the same for both sites that have the video equipment.
>
> Here's the configuration I put together.
>
>
> access-list 101 permit tcp any any range 3230 3231
> access-list 101 permit udp any any range 3230 3235
>
>
> class-map match-all video
> match access-group 101
>

You create a Class-map here called "match-all video"

>
> Policy-map video-police
> class video
> priority 540
> class class-default
> fair-queue 64

Yet you apply a class-map called video here, should you be using "match-all
video"??


>
>
> map-class frame-relay video-data
> no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
> frame-relay cir 768000
> frame-relay bc 7680
> frame-relay be 0
> service-policy out video-police
> frame-relay fragment 1280
>
> Applied to these two commands to physical interface.
>
> frame-relay traffic-shaping
> frame-relay class video-data
>
> Here's the error we are getting.
>
> I/f Serial0/0 DLCI 400 class video requested bandwidth 540 (kbps)
> Not Available
> Removing service policy from map-class
>
> We even tried this on a router not connected to the network at all. When
you
> do a show
> run after the error the service-policy statement is removed from the
> map-class configuration.
>
> Does anyone have experience with LLQ or have any suggestions.
>
> Stephen Manuel




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Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]--long reply [7:36566]

2002-02-26 Thread Steven A. Ridder

It's the average frequency of human voice.  if you look at a conversation on
a osciliscope, it averages out to 4k, so you double that and get the 8k
sample rate.

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> I understand all that, but what I don't remember is why there
> is a 4KHz low-pass filter on voice lines.  I know I've read the
> reason before but I just can't recall what it was.  Was it
> simply arbitrary?  A 4KHz upper limit is obviously sufficient
> for voice quality.  Did someone just pick that limit and filter
> out everything above it, possibly to filter noise or something?
>
> Hmm...this is bugging me now.  :-)
>
> But I can't be distracted right now, I'm trying to
> study...which explains why I keep taking time out to check my
> email and search the internet for MP3s of Clannad.  :-)  I did
> just find a killer sampler of Celtic stuff.  Very relaxing...
>
> John
>
>
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> wrote:
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> > All right, John--
> >
> > A couple of years ago (discreet cough), Cisco gave away
> copies of books
> > as
> > promos. One was _IP Telephony_ by Gorlaski and Kolon (McGraw
> Hill,
> > 2000).
> > GOOD BOOK. On pp 77-78 is an explanation of the Nyquist rate
> and voice
> > sampling:
> >
> > "...Thus, if an analog voice signal reaching up to 3400Hz is
> to be
> > sampled
> > at the Nyquist rate, the sampling frequency must be at least
> twice that,
> > or
> > 6800Hz, or samples per second.
> >
> > "Sampling does not have to be done at the Nyquist rate. The
> Nyquist rate
> > is
> > a minimal requirement to reproduce the input waveform, but
> sampling can
> > be
> > done at rates higher or lower than the Nyquist rate. If
> sampling takes
> > place
> > at rates lower than the Nyquist rate, the result is
> distortion of the
> > waveform known as (italics) aliasing. Aliasing just means
> that there is
> > more
> > than one output waveform that fits the 'connect the dots'
> pattern of the
> > samples. There is no aliasing ast the Nyquist rate and above."
> >
> > They go on to point out that, by sampling at a rate above the
> Nyquist
> > rate,
> > you have more than the minimum required information to
> reliably
> > reconstruct
> > the voice signal at the destination. This allows you to lose
> a few
> > samples
> > in transit (not that such things would ever happen, of
> course) and still
> > have only one possible reconstruction. Sampling at 8000Hz
> means there is
> > a
> > 4000Hz voice bandwidth (overly generous but convenient
> because 4 is a
> > power
> > of 2 and that makes it easier to code in a binary system).
> >
> > And from the 8000 samples/sec, each of which sends 1 8-bit
> word, we have
> > the
> > DS0 of 64000 bps (why only 56000 bps may be usable is a
> separate issue,
> > having to do with signaling on telephone links).
> >
> > Annlee
> > ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > This is OT, but the upper limit of human hearing is actually
> > > around 20KHz at best and usually drops to around 16KHz or
> so.
> > > If your upper limit starts to drop below that you'll start
> to
> > > notice that it's difficult to hear clearly.  (Sorry, in my
> > > other life I'm a sound engineer and musician.)
> > >
> > > I've heard that the 4KHz limit is because there is a low-
> pass
> > > filter used for voice.  I can't remember the exact reason,
> but
> > > that information plugged into the Nyquist theorem explains--
> as
> > > Priscilla mentions--why a DS0 is 64Kbps.
> > >
> > > Okay, time to do some serious studying once I'm through
> being
> > > lazy and drinking this coffee...
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >  On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > >
> > > > At 08:06 PM 2/26/02, Rafay wrote:
> > > > >How do you describe Sample Rate.?
> > > >
> > > > In what context? The term is sometimes used when
> describing
> > > the analog
> > > > to
> > > > digital process, for example when digitizing voice. Voice
> > > produces an
> > > > analog wave as your lungs and tongue press against the
> air.
> > > An analog
> > > > wave
> > > > has infinite possible values. Computers can't deal with
> > > infinity. They
> > > > work
> > > > with discreet numbers. The solution is to sample the
> analog
> > > voice many
> > > > times per second. Sampling means to take a snapshot.
> > > >
> > > > The sample rate is how often the analog wave is sampled.
> > > Nyquist showed
> > > > that you have to sample at twice the rate of the highest
> > > frequency that
> > > > may
> > > > occur in the original data. Most humans don't output (and
> > > can't hear)
> > > > anything about 4 KHz. So sample 8,000 times per second
> (8Khz)
> > > and the
> > > > result will be good enough. When

Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]--long reply [7:36566]

2002-02-26 Thread John Neiberger

I understand all that, but what I don't remember is why there 
is a 4KHz low-pass filter on voice lines.  I know I've read the 
reason before but I just can't recall what it was.  Was it 
simply arbitrary?  A 4KHz upper limit is obviously sufficient 
for voice quality.  Did someone just pick that limit and filter 
out everything above it, possibly to filter noise or something?

Hmm...this is bugging me now.  :-)

But I can't be distracted right now, I'm trying to 
study...which explains why I keep taking time out to check my 
email and search the internet for MP3s of Clannad.  :-)  I did 
just find a killer sampler of Celtic stuff.  Very relaxing...

John



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 On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Annlee Hines ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> All right, John--
> 
> A couple of years ago (discreet cough), Cisco gave away 
copies of books
> as
> promos. One was _IP Telephony_ by Gorlaski and Kolon (McGraw 
Hill,
> 2000).
> GOOD BOOK. On pp 77-78 is an explanation of the Nyquist rate 
and voice
> sampling:
> 
> "...Thus, if an analog voice signal reaching up to 3400Hz is 
to be
> sampled
> at the Nyquist rate, the sampling frequency must be at least 
twice that,
> or
> 6800Hz, or samples per second.
> 
> "Sampling does not have to be done at the Nyquist rate. The 
Nyquist rate
> is
> a minimal requirement to reproduce the input waveform, but 
sampling can
> be
> done at rates higher or lower than the Nyquist rate. If 
sampling takes
> place
> at rates lower than the Nyquist rate, the result is 
distortion of the
> waveform known as (italics) aliasing. Aliasing just means 
that there is
> more
> than one output waveform that fits the 'connect the dots' 
pattern of the
> samples. There is no aliasing ast the Nyquist rate and above."
> 
> They go on to point out that, by sampling at a rate above the 
Nyquist
> rate,
> you have more than the minimum required information to 
reliably
> reconstruct
> the voice signal at the destination. This allows you to lose 
a few
> samples
> in transit (not that such things would ever happen, of 
course) and still
> have only one possible reconstruction. Sampling at 8000Hz 
means there is
> a
> 4000Hz voice bandwidth (overly generous but convenient 
because 4 is a
> power
> of 2 and that makes it easier to code in a binary system).
> 
> And from the 8000 samples/sec, each of which sends 1 8-bit 
word, we have
> the
> DS0 of 64000 bps (why only 56000 bps may be usable is a 
separate issue,
> having to do with signaling on telephone links).
> 
> Annlee
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > This is OT, but the upper limit of human hearing is actually
> > around 20KHz at best and usually drops to around 16KHz or 
so.
> > If your upper limit starts to drop below that you'll start 
to
> > notice that it's difficult to hear clearly.  (Sorry, in my
> > other life I'm a sound engineer and musician.)
> >
> > I've heard that the 4KHz limit is because there is a low-
pass
> > filter used for voice.  I can't remember the exact reason, 
but
> > that information plugged into the Nyquist theorem explains--
as
> > Priscilla mentions--why a DS0 is 64Kbps.
> >
> > Okay, time to do some serious studying once I'm through 
being
> > lazy and drinking this coffee...
> >
> > John
> >
> >  On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > > At 08:06 PM 2/26/02, Rafay wrote:
> > > >How do you describe Sample Rate.?
> > >
> > > In what context? The term is sometimes used when 
describing
> > the analog
> > > to
> > > digital process, for example when digitizing voice. Voice
> > produces an
> > > analog wave as your lungs and tongue press against the 
air.
> > An analog
> > > wave
> > > has infinite possible values. Computers can't deal with
> > infinity. They
> > > work
> > > with discreet numbers. The solution is to sample the 
analog
> > voice many
> > > times per second. Sampling means to take a snapshot.
> > >
> > > The sample rate is how often the analog wave is sampled.
> > Nyquist showed
> > > that you have to sample at twice the rate of the highest
> > frequency that
> > > may
> > > occur in the original data. Most humans don't output (and
> > can't hear)
> > > anything about 4 KHz. So sample 8,000 times per second 
(8Khz)
> > and the
> > > result will be good enough. When using a sample rate of 
8,000
> > KHz, if
> > > each
> > > sample is saved in an 8-bit byte, the resulting data rate 
is
> > 64 Kbps.
> > > That's one DS0. Compression allows us to use a smaller 
data
> > rate, with
> > > some
> > > loss in fidelity.
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > > 
> > >
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > http://www.priscilla.com
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > 
> > Get your own "800" number
> > Voicemail, fax, email,

Single user for dialer pool on Ras [7:36589]

2002-02-26 Thread Michael Witte

I have been tasked with giving a vendor DLSW connectivity through our
RAS(3640) using a 1660 with a modem on the aux port. Everything works fine I
just need to have the router get the same ip address everytime it logs on so
I can use that ip address for my DLSW local-peer. I know you can do it with
Radius but I am not very good with that and I need a workaround so I can
define a single user a ip address. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.


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Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]--long reply [7:36588]

2002-02-26 Thread Annlee Hines

All right, John--

A couple of years ago (discreet cough), Cisco gave away copies of books as
promos. One was _IP Telephony_ by Gorlaski and Kolon (McGraw Hill, 2000).
GOOD BOOK. On pp 77-78 is an explanation of the Nyquist rate and voice
sampling:

"...Thus, if an analog voice signal reaching up to 3400Hz is to be sampled
at the Nyquist rate, the sampling frequency must be at least twice that, or
6800Hz, or samples per second.

"Sampling does not have to be done at the Nyquist rate. The Nyquist rate is
a minimal requirement to reproduce the input waveform, but sampling can be
done at rates higher or lower than the Nyquist rate. If sampling takes place
at rates lower than the Nyquist rate, the result is distortion of the
waveform known as (italics) aliasing. Aliasing just means that there is more
than one output waveform that fits the 'connect the dots' pattern of the
samples. There is no aliasing ast the Nyquist rate and above."

They go on to point out that, by sampling at a rate above the Nyquist rate,
you have more than the minimum required information to reliably reconstruct
the voice signal at the destination. This allows you to lose a few samples
in transit (not that such things would ever happen, of course) and still
have only one possible reconstruction. Sampling at 8000Hz means there is a
4000Hz voice bandwidth (overly generous but convenient because 4 is a power
of 2 and that makes it easier to code in a binary system).

And from the 8000 samples/sec, each of which sends 1 8-bit word, we have the
DS0 of 64000 bps (why only 56000 bps may be usable is a separate issue,
having to do with signaling on telephone links).

Annlee
""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> This is OT, but the upper limit of human hearing is actually
> around 20KHz at best and usually drops to around 16KHz or so.
> If your upper limit starts to drop below that you'll start to
> notice that it's difficult to hear clearly.  (Sorry, in my
> other life I'm a sound engineer and musician.)
>
> I've heard that the 4KHz limit is because there is a low-pass
> filter used for voice.  I can't remember the exact reason, but
> that information plugged into the Nyquist theorem explains--as
> Priscilla mentions--why a DS0 is 64Kbps.
>
> Okay, time to do some serious studying once I'm through being
> lazy and drinking this coffee...
>
> John
>
>  On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Priscilla Oppenheimer
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > At 08:06 PM 2/26/02, Rafay wrote:
> > >How do you describe Sample Rate.?
> >
> > In what context? The term is sometimes used when describing
> the analog
> > to
> > digital process, for example when digitizing voice. Voice
> produces an
> > analog wave as your lungs and tongue press against the air.
> An analog
> > wave
> > has infinite possible values. Computers can't deal with
> infinity. They
> > work
> > with discreet numbers. The solution is to sample the analog
> voice many
> > times per second. Sampling means to take a snapshot.
> >
> > The sample rate is how often the analog wave is sampled.
> Nyquist showed
> > that you have to sample at twice the rate of the highest
> frequency that
> > may
> > occur in the original data. Most humans don't output (and
> can't hear)
> > anything about 4 KHz. So sample 8,000 times per second (8Khz)
> and the
> > result will be good enough. When using a sample rate of 8,000
> KHz, if
> > each
> > sample is saved in an 8-bit byte, the resulting data rate is
> 64 Kbps.
> > That's one DS0. Compression allows us to use a smaller data
> rate, with
> > some
> > loss in fidelity.
> >
> > Priscilla
> > 
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
>
>
> 
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Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-02-26 Thread John Neiberger

This is OT, but the upper limit of human hearing is actually 
around 20KHz at best and usually drops to around 16KHz or so.  
If your upper limit starts to drop below that you'll start to 
notice that it's difficult to hear clearly.  (Sorry, in my 
other life I'm a sound engineer and musician.)

I've heard that the 4KHz limit is because there is a low-pass 
filter used for voice.  I can't remember the exact reason, but 
that information plugged into the Nyquist theorem explains--as 
Priscilla mentions--why a DS0 is 64Kbps.

Okay, time to do some serious studying once I'm through being 
lazy and drinking this coffee...  

John

 On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Priscilla Oppenheimer 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> At 08:06 PM 2/26/02, Rafay wrote:
> >How do you describe Sample Rate.?
> 
> In what context? The term is sometimes used when describing 
the analog
> to 
> digital process, for example when digitizing voice. Voice 
produces an 
> analog wave as your lungs and tongue press against the air. 
An analog
> wave 
> has infinite possible values. Computers can't deal with 
infinity. They
> work 
> with discreet numbers. The solution is to sample the analog 
voice many 
> times per second. Sampling means to take a snapshot.
> 
> The sample rate is how often the analog wave is sampled. 
Nyquist showed 
> that you have to sample at twice the rate of the highest 
frequency that
> may 
> occur in the original data. Most humans don't output (and 
can't hear) 
> anything about 4 KHz. So sample 8,000 times per second (8Khz) 
and the 
> result will be good enough. When using a sample rate of 8,000 
KHz, if
> each 
> sample is saved in an 8-bit byte, the resulting data rate is 
64 Kbps. 
> That's one DS0. Compression allows us to use a smaller data 
rate, with
> some 
> loss in fidelity.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com
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> 
> 



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RE: Bit / bytes [7:36562]

2002-02-26 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

This is clear. Thank you!

Pierre-Alex

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Layer 1 just understands bits. Hardware, in general, understands voltage
and no voltage (one or zero). I guess it could understand high voltage and
low voltage. In fact, there's even ternary systems that understand high,
kinda high, and low.

Back in the early days, software engineers got kind of sick of having to
deal with long streams of numbers and decided to aggregate them. An 8-bit
byte worked out for many systems. (There used to be systems that used a
12-bit byte).

So anything that is implemented in software (or software that has become
firmware) uses bytes or perhaps nibbles or words. Most NICs that handle
data-link-layer processes have some software (driver) or firmware (chip
set). Thus, I would say that they deal with bytes or nibbles or words or
floating integers or arrays or link lists or symbol tables or at least
something of a higher order than voltage being present or not.

Priscilla


At 07:12 PM 2/26/02, you wrote:
>Is conversion of bits into bytes and vice versa a function of Layer 1 or
>Layer 2?
>
>I have seen contradictory info.
>
>(I would say it is a layer 2 function because Layer 1 is only physical
>matters like voltage etc... but some one may have a logic to prove me
wrong)
>
>
>thanks,
>
>Pierre-Alex


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RE: Spanning tree Protocol Questions [7:36559]

2002-02-26 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

Thank you!!!

Pierre-Alex

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Comments inline ...

Pierre-Alex wrote:
>
> "In blocking mode, an interface will receive and send BPDUs but not send
> and receive data traffic. "

It will receive and process BPDUs, but will not send BPDUs and will
not receive/send data traffic. If topology changes, port will be
eventually moved into learning state and at that point will start to
send BPDUs.

> Are blocked port considered part of the spanning tree?

No.

> What is the difference between a BPDU and a Configuration BPDU?

Configuration BPDU is just one type of BPDU. There are two types:

1. Configuration BPDU
2. Topology change notification BPDU

> Is it right to say that configuration BPDUs are sent only by the
> root bridge and that BPDUs are fowarded by non-root bridges?

No, they are not just forwarded. Non-root bridges send their own
configuration BPDU, which contains information about root bridge.
But, they also contain information about cost to root bridge, bridge
id and port id that sent BPDU, etc., so each BPDU on the network is
different.


Regards,
  Sasa
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Re: HELP!Which type of cisco switching support CAR? [7:36466]

2002-02-26 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I honestly only know of routers supporting CAR, no switches.

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Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]

2002-02-26 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I agree lose the CCIE written as a cert.

I'm almost in the same situation as you, but I decided to get my CCIE first
then go back and get the MBA.  But, the two "certification" lead down two
entirely different paths -   One is a highly technical field while the other
focuses on Business and Accounting and Marketing.  Sometimes I feel like
they don't necessarly compliment each other.  I say if your heavy into tech
stuff, have a job in the router field, then get the CCIE first, otherwise
don't waste your time, because you'll forget it all if you don't have a job
where you use it while going to school.

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> I agree - do the CCNPget your MBA. There is a glut of Cisco people at
> the moment - no matter what country your are in. The MBA would probably be
a
> better choice in the long term - anyways, once you attain your CCNP level
> (or CCIP) and you keep your skills current by practicing regularly you
> should still be OK for the CCIE further down the track.
>
> BTW - Tim? Drop the 'CCIE Written' 'bit' from you acronym collection...it
> ain't cool no more :)
>
>
> ""Tim Booth""  wrote in message
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> > My suggestion is to get your DP and NP and see if you like it, if you
> > have time. Then you can make a more educated decision. Certainly, if you
> > have access to most/all of the routers and switches that are in the CCIE
> > lab page exam, then it would be good to take advantage of your
> > situation.
> >
> >   As far as availability of jobs and such, I don't know this
> > information.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Tim Booth
> > MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written
> > -
> > Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary
> > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
> > Benjamin Franklin, 1759




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Re: Cisco VS Foundry Networks.. [7:36448]

2002-02-26 Thread Gregg Malcolm

I've read a few of the responses to this question and haven't seen anyone 
mention the lack of debug support on Foundry equipment.  Has Foundry added 
debug support yet ?  If not, that alone is a compelling reason to buy from 
cisco.  One of many reasons, but to me, debug is virtually mandatory in a 
real, production network.

My 2 cents,  Gregg


>From: "Washington Rico" 
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>Subject: Cisco VS Foundry Networks.. [7:36448]
>Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:02:54 -0500
>
>Cisco people I would like to know your impression of Foundry Networks.  Are
>they something to worry about?
>
>Regards,
>Eric Washington
>
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ISIS filtering, redistribution, etc. [7:36580]

2002-02-26 Thread Lupi, Guy

Does anyone know of a good link that I can go to to find information on
filtering and redistribution in ISIS?  The only thing that I can find is a
note in the archives stating that you have to use a clns access-group to
filter, but it doesn't say how to implement it and I am not having any luck
on CCO.  I have routers running 12.1 and routers running 12.0, on the 12.0
routers there is a distribute list command, but it doesn't seem to work when
applied, and on the 12.1 routers it isn't even available.  If anyone could
help me out I would appreciate it, I am stuck at this point, thanks.




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Re: Spanning tree Protocol Questions [7:36559]

2002-02-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 06:45 PM 2/26/02, Pierre-Alex wrote:
>Question (1)
>
>Is the first part of this statement correct?
>
>I have looked at the 801d paper for an answer but I am still uncertain.

The IEEE 802.1D document is tough to read. Try the Cisco LAN Switching book 
by Clark and Hamilton. It's a masterpiece.


>"In blocking mode, an interface will receive and send BPDUs but not send
>and receive data traffic. "

In blocking mode, an interface receives and processes BPDUs. It doesn't 
send them. It also does not forward data traffic.


>Question (2)
>
>Are blocked port considered part of the spanning tree?

Of course not. What would be the point?


>When I do a "show span" on switches,

It's showing you info about the spanning tree process, not the tree.

 From my new book (copyrighted by me, and please don't copy without giving 
me credit ;-)

A tree is more than just a woody perennial plant with few limbs on its 
lower part. A tree is also a mathematical concept. A tree is a diagram or 
graph that branches from a single stem without forming loops or polygons.

A computer network is usually not physically constructed as a tree because 
of the requirements to provide redundancy and avoid any single points of 
failure. STP prunes the physical topology of a bridged network into a 
logical tree topology.

Topology is more than just a word that Cisco and other vendors throw around 
when discussing network design. Topology is a branch of mathematics 
concerned with those properties of geometric configurations which are 
unaltered by elastic deformations such as stretching or twisting. (For 
example, did you know that according to topology principles, a donut is the 
same shape as a coffee cup? Think about it!)

To understand a tree topology, think about a document outline, a table of 
contents, a hierarchical org chart, cluster diagrams used in brainstorming, 
and genealogy charts. These are all trees. Unless brothers and sisters or 
cousins marry, (which does happen sometimes), there is a single path 
between any two people in a genealogical tree. In a bridged or switched 
computer network, STP ensures that there is a single path between LANs. STP 
allows bridges to discover a loop-free, tree-shaped subset of the physical 
topology that spans the bridged network. In other words, STP produces a 
spanning tree.

NOTE: With networking, as with mathematics, the tree is usually drawn 
upside down. The root is placed at the top of the drawing.

>I do see the blocked port listed
>but on testing material I have seen both answers: one reference says
>blocked ports are part of the spanning tree another says they are not.
>
>Which one is true?
>
>Question (3)
>
>What is the difference between a BPDU and a Configuration BPDU? Is it
>right to say that configuration BPDUs are sent only by the root bridge
>and that BPDUs are fowarded by non-root bridges?

BPDU is a protocol. There are two types of messages: Configuration BPDUs 
and Topology Change Notification BPDUs

Once the logical tree has been formed, BPDU traffic continues endlessly. 
The Root Bridge sends configuration BPDUs out all its ports every Hello 
Timer interval, which is every two seconds by default. Configuration BPDUs 
arrive at the Root Ports on bridges downstream from the root. These bridges 
send configuration BPDUs on their Designated Ports.

Topology Change Notification BPDUs happen when there's a change. They 
travel upstream.

Read up on how the protocol behaves. You'll need to know it and it's very 
interesting.

Good luck,

Priscilla

>
>Thanks a lot,
>
>Pierre-Alex


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Re: Bit / bytes [7:36562]

2002-02-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Layer 1 just understands bits. Hardware, in general, understands voltage 
and no voltage (one or zero). I guess it could understand high voltage and 
low voltage. In fact, there's even ternary systems that understand high, 
kinda high, and low.

Back in the early days, software engineers got kind of sick of having to 
deal with long streams of numbers and decided to aggregate them. An 8-bit 
byte worked out for many systems. (There used to be systems that used a 
12-bit byte).

So anything that is implemented in software (or software that has become 
firmware) uses bytes or perhaps nibbles or words. Most NICs that handle 
data-link-layer processes have some software (driver) or firmware (chip 
set). Thus, I would say that they deal with bytes or nibbles or words or 
floating integers or arrays or link lists or symbol tables or at least 
something of a higher order than voltage being present or not.

Priscilla


At 07:12 PM 2/26/02, you wrote:
>Is conversion of bits into bytes and vice versa a function of Layer 1 or
>Layer 2?
>
>I have seen contradictory info.
>
>(I would say it is a layer 2 function because Layer 1 is only physical
>matters like voltage etc... but some one may have a logic to prove me wrong)
>
>
>thanks,
>
>Pierre-Alex


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Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-02-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 08:06 PM 2/26/02, Rafay wrote:
>How do you describe Sample Rate.?

In what context? The term is sometimes used when describing the analog to 
digital process, for example when digitizing voice. Voice produces an 
analog wave as your lungs and tongue press against the air. An analog wave 
has infinite possible values. Computers can't deal with infinity. They work 
with discreet numbers. The solution is to sample the analog voice many 
times per second. Sampling means to take a snapshot.

The sample rate is how often the analog wave is sampled. Nyquist showed 
that you have to sample at twice the rate of the highest frequency that may 
occur in the original data. Most humans don't output (and can't hear) 
anything about 4 KHz. So sample 8,000 times per second (8Khz) and the 
result will be good enough. When using a sample rate of 8,000 KHz, if each 
sample is saved in an 8-bit byte, the resulting data rate is 64 Kbps. 
That's one DS0. Compression allows us to use a smaller data rate, with some 
loss in fidelity.

Priscilla


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SNMP Trap Destinations, Primary and Backup [7:36576]

2002-02-26 Thread Clayton Dukes

Hi Guys,
Is it possible to specify a failover SNMP host in a router?
ie, if dest 1 goes down, then (and only then) send traps to dest 2.

TIA!


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Re: Cisco VS Foundry Networks.. [7:36448]

2002-02-26 Thread GAHellinger

In a former lifetime, I worked for one of the nation's largest ISPs.  We
replaced all our Cisco access/distribution routers with Foundry equipment.
Excellent product at a super price.  One of our demands was that Foundry be
'IOS-like', - if you know IOS you can work on Foundry.  The L2 and L4
products rock also.

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Re: Spanning tree Protocol Questions [7:36559]

2002-02-26 Thread Sasa Milic

Comments inline ...

Pierre-Alex wrote:
>
> "In blocking mode, an interface will receive and send BPDUs but not send
> and receive data traffic. "

It will receive and process BPDUs, but will not send BPDUs and will
not receive/send data traffic. If topology changes, port will be
eventually moved into learning state and at that point will start to
send BPDUs.

> Are blocked port considered part of the spanning tree?

No.

> What is the difference between a BPDU and a Configuration BPDU?

Configuration BPDU is just one type of BPDU. There are two types:

1. Configuration BPDU
2. Topology change notification BPDU

> Is it right to say that configuration BPDUs are sent only by the
> root bridge and that BPDUs are fowarded by non-root bridges?

No, they are not just forwarded. Non-root bridges send their own
configuration BPDU, which contains information about root bridge.
But, they also contain information about cost to root bridge, bridge
id and port id that sent BPDU, etc., so each BPDU on the network is
different.


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OT:Anyone for an Equipment trade? Still need a ISDN simulator [7:36572]

2002-02-26 Thread Tim Medley

Ok, I still do not have an ISDN simulator. I do have a couple of extra
routers I could downsize out of my lab if need be.

Anyone out there interested in trading an ISDN simulator for a router or
two? The emulator would need to have U interfaces.

If anyone  is remotely interested, email me directly and we'll discuss
more details.

Thanks,

tm


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VoIP Group
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Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-02-26 Thread Brian

Usually thought about in analog to digital conversion, it is the number of
times per second a piece of data is captured.  Accepted theory states that
for the sample to be an accurate representation of the data, the sample rate
should be twice the highest frequency you are trying to capture, so for an
audio cd, the rate in the lo 40khz range is deemed adequate.

Brian

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> How do you describe Sample Rate.?




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Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-02-26 Thread Rafay

How do you describe Sample Rate.?




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FW: Spanning tree Protocols Questions [7:36565]

2002-02-26 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

Question (1)



Is the first part of this statement correct?

I have looked at the 801d paper for an answer but I am still uncertain.

"In blocking mode, an interface will receive and send BPDUs but not send and
receive data traffic. "





Question (2)





Are blocked port considered part of the spanning tree?

When I do a "show span" on switches, I do see the blocked port listed but on
testing material I have seen both answers: one reference says blocked ports
are part of the spanning tree another says they are not.

Which one is true?





Question (3)



What is the difference between a BPDU and a Configuration BPDU? Is it right
to say that configuration BPDUs are sent only by the root bridge and that
BPDUs are fowarded by non-root bridges?



Thanks a lot,



Pierre-Alex




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Re: Simulation on PIX firewall before deploying on the [7:36564]

2002-02-26 Thread Ocsic

According to Cisco Partner Lab Requirement...

The LAB also using 2 Cisco PIX 515
why dont you refer to Cisco Partner Security Lab Requirement and
build one in your office to simulate the Clients Situation

the lab include Cisco Concentrator, PIX, . etc


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> Is it possible to test the configuration before deploying in the
production
> environment ?
>
> I am wondering if there is a simulator or the only here would be spending
> $$$ to buy one just for parallel test in the lab...




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Re: can you bind two frame relay circuits? [7:35854]

2002-02-26 Thread nrf

It is no longer a 12000-only feature.  MFR is now available for 2600's,
3600's, 3700's (don't know what kind of router that is, but it's listed in
there, and 7200's.



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> >
> >   Dave
> >
> > Chuck wrote:
> > >
> > > according to the information in the link, this feature is supported
only
> on
> > > the 12000 series. Anyone checked to see if the feature has been
migrated
> > > down to other platforms as newer IOS's are released?
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> > > > You want to get fancy you can try multilink frame relay:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/120newft/120
> > > limit/120s/120s17/17s_mfr.htm
> > > >
> > > >   Then again if you want it simple and to work do what Patrick
aluded
> > > > to, enable CEF and on the interface choose your favorite switching
> > > > mechanism, per packet or per destination.
> > > >
> > > >   Dave
> > > >
> > > > Patrick Ramsey wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > well you wouldn't really "bind" them...but, if you were using a
> routing
> > > > > protocol such as ospf, then it could round robin packets for you.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Patrick
> > > > >
> > > > > >>> beth  02/19/02 10:34AM >>>
> > > > > I have several 256k frame relay circuits some coming back to same
> host
> > > > > circuit
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on
> a
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Bit / bytes [7:36562]

2002-02-26 Thread Pierre-Alex GUANEL

Is conversion of bits into bytes and vice versa a function of Layer 1 or
Layer 2?

I have seen contradictory info.

(I would say it is a layer 2 function because Layer 1 is only physical
matters like voltage etc... but some one may have a logic to prove me wrong)


thanks,

Pierre-Alex




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Re: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? [7:36561]

2002-02-26 Thread Marcus Jensen

I don't think he needs to worry about reprise from Cisco if it is just for
study.

I'm interested in this too but from a tinkering "how does it work"
perspective. There are lots of confusing things about the pix software
install/upgrades/downgrades and then add in the activation keys and serial
numbers. Not even close to the confusion of trying to upgrade catalyst
supervisor engines from 2 to 5 and having to go one step at a time. Ah, if
all things were easy like 2500 images :)

Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix?


> You got a good price on the flash card
>
> However, this is not a wise move.  Bad karma to do this installation
> anyway...
>
> Worse karma to ask for help on a public list with numerous Cisco people on
> it! (grin)




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Re: IBM' s latest and fastest chip ? [7:36473]

2002-02-26 Thread nrf

Some of Cisco's main chip suppliers - Motorola, PMC-Sierra, Vitesse
Semiconductor, MIPS, Applied MicroCircuits, Broadcom, and many others (Cisco
has loads of different supplies because of their many platforms).  Juniper
uses IBM, Xilinx, Intel, and some others.



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> well, but like the rest of the world, Cisco is the #1 line.
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> who and which companies use chips made by IBM ? is IBM
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Spanning tree Protocol Questions [7:36559]

2002-02-26 Thread Pierre-Alex

Question (1)
 
Is the first part of this statement correct?

I have looked at the 801d paper for an answer but I am still uncertain.

"In blocking mode, an interface will receive and send BPDUs but not send
and receive data traffic. "


 
Question (2)
 
 
Are blocked port considered part of the spanning tree? 

When I do a "show span" on switches, I do see the blocked port listed
but on testing material I have seen both answers: one reference says
blocked ports are part of the spanning tree another says they are not.

Which one is true? 


 
Question (3)
 
What is the difference between a BPDU and a Configuration BPDU? Is it
right to say that configuration BPDUs are sent only by the root bridge
and that BPDUs are fowarded by non-root bridges?
 
Thanks a lot,
 
Pierre-Alex




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Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]

2002-02-26 Thread Oliver Nadalin

I agree - do the CCNPget your MBA. There is a glut of Cisco people at
the moment - no matter what country your are in. The MBA would probably be a
better choice in the long term - anyways, once you attain your CCNP level
(or CCIP) and you keep your skills current by practicing regularly you
should still be OK for the CCIE further down the track.

BTW - Tim? Drop the 'CCIE Written' 'bit' from you acronym collection...it
ain't cool no more :)


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> have time. Then you can make a more educated decision. Certainly, if you
> have access to most/all of the routers and switches that are in the CCIE
> lab page exam, then it would be good to take advantage of your
> situation.
>
>   As far as availability of jobs and such, I don't know this
> information.
>
> Kind Regards,
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feature packs and licenses [7:36555]

2002-02-26 Thread Danny

I'm a little confused about the licensing with regards to routers.  Someone
indicated to me recently that they could tell from a show ver that the
router in question wasn't running the code it was shipped with, but I
didn't get time to check this out further.  How would they tell this?

More to the point, if I buy a router from ebay to build up my lab, do I
need to be separately buying an IOS pack ?  I read through the license
agreement on the software download part of Cisco's site and find myself
no further forward - it would suggest that feature packs have to be sold
with a router, and possibly even that second hand feature packs won't do
but new ones need to be bought from Cisco..

anyone comment and clarify this for me?




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RE: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]

2002-02-26 Thread Tim Booth

My suggestion is to get your DP and NP and see if you like it, if you
have time. Then you can make a more educated decision. Certainly, if you
have access to most/all of the routers and switches that are in the CCIE
lab page exam, then it would be good to take advantage of your
situation.

  As far as availability of jobs and such, I don't know this
information.

Kind Regards,
Tim Booth
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RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? [7:36533]

2002-02-26 Thread Patrick Ramsey

why not?  if you are speaking of morals...sheeesh...who has those any
more... hehe

Are we even sure it's illegal?

>>> "Greg Kellogg"  02/26/02 03:15PM >>>
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Subject: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix?


Hi Everyone,
After struggling for the past two days, I have 
successfully cloned a Pix firewall by using my PC.
I plug the 16MB flash card into the PC's ISA slot 
and the PC recognize that it is a Pix flash card
(cost me $400.00). It boots up fine and everything
seems to be in order.  However, after the boot up 
sequence, it asks me for the activation key.  I've 
been trying many different possible scenarios without
much success.  I even tried to use the activation key
from another Pix firewall but that doesn't work
either.

Anybody know how I can fake my clone Pix with a 
fake activation key?  By the way,I am running Pix OS
code version 6.1(2). I even tried 5.3(1), 5.3(2),
6.0(1) and 6.1(1) and one of them works.  By the way,
the PC has 128MB of RAM and a 16Mb Flash ISA card.  
I tried to clone a Pix520.

Please help.

Jason

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Re: ppp multilink cmd. prevents pings?? [7:36549]

2002-02-26 Thread Rahul Kachalia

Please provide following debug with mlppp configs while pinging :

- debug ppp mu frag
- debug ppp mu eve
- debug ip pac de
- debug ip icmp

&

- show ver
- show run.
- show ip route

thanks,
rahul.


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> Have 2 routers connected back-to-back via 2 serials with ppp encap and ppp
> multilink cmds. configed on both. This creates a virtual intf.
> Virtual-Access 1. I can ping to networks on both routers via this virtual
> intf. but I cannot ping the serial ip's itself.  Is this how this is
> supposed to work? I mean, how come I cannot ping the serial ip when this
> very same serial intf. gets me to networks on that router?
> Thank you.
>
> Output:
>
> Central#ping 20.20.20.1 > netw. on the other router
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 20.20.20.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
> !
> Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 28/28/28 ms
>
> Central#ping 5.5.5.1 -> the serial ip on the other router
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 5.5.5.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
> .
> Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
>
> With the ppp multilink cmd. removed:
> Central#ping 5.5.5.2
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 5.5.5.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
> !
> Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 72/76/84 ms
> Central#
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RE: Cissps [7:36391]

2002-02-26 Thread William Gragido

The answer is yes provided that you are qualified and meet the expecatations
of the ISC2.  I am sitting for the exam in May, here in Chicago, and I would
say in my humble opinion that its a great field of study.

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Is Cissp worth getting?




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RE: Serial interface problem [7:36423]

2002-02-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 01:19 PM 2/26/02, s vermill wrote:
>I don't think Cisco publishes what the hex codes mean after the "new serial
>state = 0x" line.  Anyone know?

I don't think so either. I sometimes think that Cisco's debug tools are 
really designed to help their internal QA people more than their customers.

>I did find reference to something
>generic that read "hardware has interrupted the software."  You seem to have
>a lot going on in that regard.  Every four or five seconds on both ends of
>the link you are experiencing one or more hardware interrupts.

I was thinking all the changes were related to possibly troubleshooting in 
a panic, removing and replacing cables, etc. This isn't meant as a 
criticism. It's just a possible explanation for some of the weirdnesses. 
Another weirdness was that the router sent 18 keepalives with no ACK before 
giving up. It's supposed to only send 3. But I think it must have kept 
sending as the link flapped.

We need more data to help troubleshoot.

Priscilla

>  As a last
>resort, I would look into control lead options (no pulse, ignore dcd, etc).
>Actually, the TAC would certainly have access to those code values so they
>would be my true last resort.
>
>It's difficult to say which is the horse and which is the cart.  Are your
>routers not successfully exchanging keepalives because of the hardware
>activity or is your hardware activity the result of not exchanging
>keepalives?  If I recall, dtr is supposed to pulse once, then again in 5
>seconds, and then every 30 seconds until the protocol comes back up.  I have
>no idea what dcd and dsr are supposed to do when running as a dce.
>
>Scott


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Simulation on PIX firewall before deploying on the production [7:36550]

2002-02-26 Thread Brown, M

I am helping with a PIX 520 configuration. Many and many acl's need to be
configured.
Is it possible to test the configuration before deploying in the production
environment ?

I am wondering if there is a simulator or the only here would be spending
$$$ to buy one just for parallel test in the lab...




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ppp multilink cmd. prevents pings?? [7:36549]

2002-02-26 Thread Cisco Nuts

Hello,
Have 2 routers connected back-to-back via 2 serials with ppp encap and ppp 
multilink cmds. configed on both. This creates a virtual intf. 
Virtual-Access 1. I can ping to networks on both routers via this virtual 
intf. but I cannot ping the serial ip's itself.  Is this how this is 
supposed to work? I mean, how come I cannot ping the serial ip when this 
very same serial intf. gets me to networks on that router?
Thank you.

Output:

Central#ping 20.20.20.1 > netw. on the other router
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 20.20.20.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 28/28/28 ms

Central#ping 5.5.5.1 -> the serial ip on the other router
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 5.5.5.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
.
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)

With the ppp multilink cmd. removed:
Central#ping 5.5.5.2
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 5.5.5.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 72/76/84 ms
Central#

Any ideas. Thank you.


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Re: Naming Conventions [7:36535]

2002-02-26 Thread Chuck

there is a chapter in Howard Berkowitz' book Designing Addressing
Architectures that covers this topic.

there are many other good reasons for owning this book

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Re: Cisco VS Foundry Networks.. [7:36448]

2002-02-26 Thread nrf

They got a nice L3 switch.  Their load-balancers are not bad.  But their
attempts to enter the ISP-core and be the next Juniper were an epic
disaster.



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> buying Arrowpoint, and badging them the CSS line of equipment.  As far as
> Foundry's switches go, they are very comparable.  They use a Cisco replica
> command set, so if you know Cisco, you can adapt to Foundry fairly easily.
> So all in all, Foundry is a good product, worth consideration for a lot of
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>
> > Cisco people I would like to know your impression of Foundry Networks.
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> > they something to worry about?
> >
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RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix [7:36547]

2002-02-26 Thread Scott Morris

You got a good price on the flash card

However, this is not a wise move.  Bad karma to do this installation
anyway...

Worse karma to ask for help on a public list with numerous Cisco people on
it! (grin)

Anyway, the activation key is tied to the serial number, which of course is
on the flash card.  Now you can get a 56-bit DES key for free, although I
still wouldn't admit how you're using the card in your own box. :)

You may want to get a Yahoo  account and then a new CCO account to get a
little anonymity behind you! (grin)

Anyway.  Have fun!

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Hi Everyone,
After struggling for the past two days, I have
successfully cloned a Pix firewall by using my PC.
I plug the 16MB flash card into the PC's ISA slot
and the PC recognize that it is a Pix flash card
(cost me $400.00). It boots up fine and everything
seems to be in order.  However, after the boot up
sequence, it asks me for the activation key.  I've
been trying many different possible scenarios without
much success.  I even tried to use the activation key
from another Pix firewall but that doesn't work
either.

Anybody know how I can fake my clone Pix with a
fake activation key?  By the way,I am running Pix OS
code version 6.1(2). I even tried 5.3(1), 5.3(2),
6.0(1) and 6.1(1) and one of them works.  By the way,
the PC has 128MB of RAM and a 16Mb Flash ISA card.
I tried to clone a Pix520.

Please help.

Jason

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Re: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix [7:36536]

2002-02-26 Thread Jeff K.

The activation key is tied into the serial number of the PIX (I assume the
serial # is somehow related to the flash card) so using the key from one PIX
will not work in another.  I had to RMA a PIX 515 a few months ago and
needed to send Cisco the new serial number and they sent me the new
activation key later that day.  The 56-bit key is free, though, from CCO,
but you still need your serial number.  Not sure what you would do in your
case though, to be honest...

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To: ; 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:02 PM
Subject: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix?


> Hi Everyone,
> After struggling for the past two days, I have
> successfully cloned a Pix firewall by using my PC.
> I plug the 16MB flash card into the PC's ISA slot
> and the PC recognize that it is a Pix flash card
> (cost me $400.00). It boots up fine and everything
> seems to be in order.  However, after the boot up
> sequence, it asks me for the activation key.  I've
> been trying many different possible scenarios without
> much success.  I even tried to use the activation key
> from another Pix firewall but that doesn't work
> either.
>
> Anybody know how I can fake my clone Pix with a
> fake activation key?  By the way,I am running Pix OS
> code version 6.1(2). I even tried 5.3(1), 5.3(2),
> 6.0(1) and 6.1(1) and one of them works.  By the way,
> the PC has 128MB of RAM and a 16Mb Flash ISA card.
> I tried to clone a Pix520.
>
> Please help.
>
> Jason
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RE: Naming Conventions [7:36535]

2002-02-26 Thread Larry Letterman

at cisco campus, we use:
bldg#-closet-device

example...sjcx-11-sw1

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Hey Im looking for a good naming convention that clearly tells the location,
company and function of the device. Does anyone what to submit there naming
contentions? What is the "best" naming convention?




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Re: Naming Conventions [7:36535]

2002-02-26 Thread dre

RFC 1178, RFC 2100, and RFC 2219

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1178.txt
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2100.txt
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2219.txt

It doesn't clearly tell the location, company, and function of the device.
That's a bad practice.  You might want to try looking at this instead:

http://telecom-info.telcordia.com/site-cgi/ido/index.html
Do a search for "Common Language".  This is the telecom standard
for naming conventions like CLLI, CLEI, CLFI, CLCI

What I've found to be useful for TCP/IP-based networks is to
use DNS or LDAP (or possibly another database, but both of
those are best suited to do this kind of stuff) to contain the "extra"
information.  A lot of people use SNMP to do this, as well, but it's
limited in comparison to DNS and LDAP.  Things like LOC, SNV,
and even TXT DNS resource records can handle this type of information
rather well.

I've always appreciated RFC 1178 in combination with a single block
of IP addresses for loopback addresses.  This way a router's loopback
address and hostname stays the same from the day you first configure it
to the days of it's largest packet pushing moments to the final day when
you brush the dust off of it in the storage closet to trade it up for new
gear.
And what's really wrong with naming a router "fluffybunny" anyways?

All of this really depends on your organization.  If you are strict Telecom
and follow Bellcore/Telcordia and ISO/IEC guidelines, then by all means,
go with Common Language.  If you are a new world TCP/IP network -
use RFC 1178 for the A records, RFC 2219 for the CNAME records
(like www, ns, ldap, as well as machine-parsable names like sjc1-br01).
If you are something in-between (both Telecom and TCP/IP) then do both
(maybe they should be or already are separate networks with separate
administration anyways).  Combining IP address management, DNS,
LDAP, and Common Language would be a *very* cool project.

I don't believe that any IP address should have more than one DNS A
record because CNAME records should be used instead for simplification.
You could also do a zone dump of just the A records and then know that
you have no duplicate IP addresses.

This isn't really well known, and I would be willing to bet that my ideas
are not universal (which is really too bad).  A lot of people have very
strict ideas about "Naming Conventions" that don't follow any standards.
Maybe there really isn't a standard just because the network operators
have not yet agreed on one (visible by the various naming implementation
differences).

-dre

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CCDA passed [7:36543]

2002-02-26 Thread Gaz

Decided it was a shame not to do the couple of exams to get to CCDP, so got
hold of the Cisco Press DCN book last week and took the exam today.
Managed a 922, although I wasn't even sure that I'd passed as I hit the
final NEXT button. I was totally bored through the whole of the book and the
exam did the same for me. The feeling that you're putting in gibberish, just
because that was the answer when the test was written is not a good one.

Not to worry, I'm hoping the CID is a little better, but I hear it may not
be? I get the book next week - wishing for some interesting topics but not
holding my breath.

Gaz
CCNP/CCDA




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HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]

2002-02-26 Thread Jerry P.

Hi all:

I have a dilemma that I was wondering if I could ask your opinion on
concerning CCIE status.  I am a Network Admin for the cisco lab at a
university.  The racks of equipment in the lab is available to use for any
BGP, VLAN or multicast network possible it seems like.  But I'm at a point
in my life where there's a fork in the road; it looks like the CCIE route or
MBA route and I am leaning towards the MBA with a lower cert like CCNP.  But
with all this equipment and abundance of lab time here, would I be foolish
not to take advantage of this situation?  And suppose I do go for it and
hope that I pass the big one, I'm curious what kinds of jobs are out there
in this industry for someone like myself with 5 years of experience, 1-2
years of it concentrated in IT?  What should I do??


Thanks.

Jerry
CCNA CCDA MCSA


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Re: written exam passed [7:33460]

2002-02-26 Thread Gandolf

I sure did not get the same test you did.  I used the boson tests to verify
verify my knowledge before takign the written exam.  I was scoring 85%-95%
first time taking them and only got an 81 on the written today.  For me
there were probably 5 questions that were quite similar and only 2 that were
identical.  Dont think you can memorize the Boson software and pass the
written exam.  At least not the one I took.


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>
> test 1,2,3 has 200Q,200Q,400Q respectively. so totally
> 800Q.
>
> gobble
>
> --- JimYam  wrote:
> > Gobble,
> >
> > May I know which Boson 800Q you are refering to?
> > I believe they have Boson 1, 2 and 3.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Jim
> > - Original Message -
> > From: ""gobble degook""
> > Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:54 PM
> > Subject: written exam passed [7:33460]
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I passed written this morning with 90, mixed
> > feelings.
> > >
> > > Cisco should really change exam content, honestly
> > speaking, only 5
> > questions
> > > I have never seen before. maybe cisco should sue
> > boson, even the ospf area
> > > number on the diagram is the same. on the other
> > side , I think I am lucky
> > > becos I am still under the old content.
> > >
> > > My suggestion: if they still have this old
> > content, just do boson 800
> > > questions, then you can pass easily.
> > >
> > > My preparation: after CCDP, read jeff doyle once,
> > ospf sections are
> > > excellent. out of patience before I start to read
> > caslow and halabi. did
> > > boson 800Q, ccprep 200Q. make sure you understand
> > each question and
> > > knowledge required behind.
> > >
> > > Can anybody advise me whether I violate NDA by
> > saying these things. it is
> > > definitely not my intention to do that.
> > >
> > > Gobble
> > > ccnp/dp, mcse, cne, sun csa&cna.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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FW: pix question [7:36500]

2002-02-26 Thread george gittins

thanks for the info

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Oops, typo alert.

The Global statement should read:

Global (outside) # a.b.c.d netmask 255.255.255.0

Thanks

Larry

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Subject: RE: pix question [7:36500]


Well, if I understand your question correctly, you want to have a specific
subnet always get the same external address ?

Nat (inside) # 10.20.30.0 255.255.255.0
Global (outside) # a.b.c.d 255.255.255.0

# = unique number that is not used already on your PIX. Most people use 1 as
the first group. Just pick a number that is unique and apply it to both the
NAT statement for the inside address's and the Global outside address that
they get. That is how the NAT is associated with the specific global
statement.

A.b.c.d is our outside address that they always get.

10.20.30.0 255.255.255.0 is the inside network(s) that get translated. If
you want to add multiple internal networks to that specific global address,
then you only net to add additional NAT statements using the same unique
identifier (#).



Thanks

Larry

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I have a pool of ip address im assigning as they leave my internal network.
Is their a way i can assign specific global ip address to inside networks.

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RE: written exam passed [7:33460]

2002-02-26 Thread Dennis Laganiere

Boson exam #1 - 200+ questions
Boson exam #2 - 200+ questions
Boson exam #3 - 400+ questions

--- Denni

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lots of people ask the same thing already

test 1,2,3 has 200Q,200Q,400Q respectively. so totally
800Q. 

gobble

--- JimYam  wrote:
> Gobble,
> 
> May I know which Boson 800Q you are refering to?
> I believe they have Boson 1, 2 and 3.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Jim
> - Original Message -
> From: ""gobble degook"" 
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:54 PM
> Subject: written exam passed [7:33460]
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I passed written this morning with 90, mixed
> feelings.
> >
> > Cisco should really change exam content, honestly
> speaking, only 5
> questions
> > I have never seen before. maybe cisco should sue
> boson, even the ospf area
> > number on the diagram is the same. on the other
> side , I think I am lucky
> > becos I am still under the old content.
> >
> > My suggestion: if they still have this old
> content, just do boson 800
> > questions, then you can pass easily.
> >
> > My preparation: after CCDP, read jeff doyle once,
> ospf sections are
> > excellent. out of patience before I start to read
> caslow and halabi. did
> > boson 800Q, ccprep 200Q. make sure you understand
> each question and
> > knowledge required behind.
> >
> > Can anybody advise me whether I violate NDA by
> saying these things. it is
> > definitely not my intention to do that.
> >
> > Gobble
> > ccnp/dp, mcse, cne, sun csa&cna.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >


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Naming Conventions [7:36535]

2002-02-26 Thread Richard Tufaro

Hey Im looking for a good naming convention that clearly tells the location,
company and function of the device. Does anyone what to submit there naming
contentions? What is the "best" naming convention?




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RE: netmeeting problem [7:36524]

2002-02-26 Thread Brian Zeitz

Ive had good luck using ILS server that comes with Exchange and using
that for netmeeting, its super fast, even for 56K users, no loss of
signal. Do you have one Public IP that everyone is connecting to? To
view multi video sessions, you need to have it set up as a reflector
server. Not sure of you network config , bandwith etc.

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Subject: OT: netmeeting problem [7:36524]

Hello,

I've got a netmeeting server, when users logon, only
first 2 users can see video, others can only use white
board, share directories. What's wrong?

Thanks.

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RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? [7:36533]

2002-02-26 Thread Greg Kellogg

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Hi Everyone,
After struggling for the past two days, I have 
successfully cloned a Pix firewall by using my PC.
I plug the 16MB flash card into the PC's ISA slot 
and the PC recognize that it is a Pix flash card
(cost me $400.00). It boots up fine and everything
seems to be in order.  However, after the boot up 
sequence, it asks me for the activation key.  I've 
been trying many different possible scenarios without
much success.  I even tried to use the activation key
from another Pix firewall but that doesn't work
either.

Anybody know how I can fake my clone Pix with a 
fake activation key?  By the way,I am running Pix OS
code version 6.1(2). I even tried 5.3(1), 5.3(2),
6.0(1) and 6.1(1) and one of them works.  By the way,
the PC has 128MB of RAM and a 16Mb Flash ISA card.  
I tried to clone a Pix520.

Please help.

Jason

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Re: Was Re: Where is Bruce Caslow ECP1 Class? [7:36501]

2002-02-26 Thread John Neiberger

I agree, and the key words there are 'if you can afford it.'  Some of
these types of classes come out to almost $1,000/day!  And while I agree
that the instruction you get is incredibly valuable, it has to be
justified.  If you can afford to pay it out of pocket without going into
debt, great.  I'd bet most people aren't willing to fork over $4,000 in
cash so they'll put it on a card.

Many people want the CCIE certification because it increases their
marketability and the likelihood of a really excellent salary, and
that's why they're willing to shell out huge bucks to get it.  But if
the financial rewards are less likely, is it worth it to fork out this
much cash on a single class?

Just a thought.  There's no doubt in my mind that if I had the cash I'd
take of one these courses in a heartbeat.  However, with a mortgage, two
cars, two dogs and a kid on the way, my wife would kill me if I even
suggested that we go into debt an additional $4,000 on *top* of all the
money I've spent on books, practice labs, and routers.

Like I said, just a thought.  It seems they're pricing is based on
demand figures from two years ago.  Then again, they wouldn't be
charging that much if people weren't paying it!

In hindsight, I guess I don't really have a point and I'm babbling. 
:-)

John

>>> "James Haynes"  2/26/02 12:19:07 PM >>>
Chuck,

Well said. I believe you are your own business and should treat
yourself as
such. The perfect time to increase your value (if you can afford it)
is
during a slow market. You will be able to ride the wave when things do
turn
around.



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""Chuck""  wrote in message
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> Take a lesson from the financial markets. Call this an investment in
the
> future. The best time to buy stocks is when they are low. (
> duhh )
>
> The best time to educate and improve yourself is when the market is
slow.
> Now is the time to invest in yourself - training, experience,
whatever you
> can get.
>
> the market is starting to come back. it's hard to tell, but this is
because
> jobs are a trailing indicator. Companies will delay new hiring until
they
> are certain the market is recovering. The economy is indeed
recovering as
we
> speak, according to the leading indicators. This will not be
reflected in
> the current job market. We may not see the job market improve for
several
> more months. But I can tell you, I'm seeing a lot more in terms of
customer
> activity than I was seeing six months ago. Or three months ago, for
that
> matter. the biggies are VoIP and VPN, but there is a good share of
> infrastructure upgrade. Without the idiots from defunct places like
M1
> mucking up the dialogue, customers are getting better advice IMHO,
and are
> seeing the value of investing now.
>
> I suspect the real question here is whether or not there is value to
being
a
> CCIE as opposed to some other certification, or expertise in
networking in
> general. We could debate this point until doomsday and never come up
with
a
> definitive conclusion. IMHO the skills acquired during the CCIE Lab
prep
> process are valuable. The cert itself may or may not be of value to
a
> particular employer.
>
> My own opinion - always invest in yourself. Invest in the skills that
will
> keep you challenged and keep you employed.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm curious about the feelings others have toward this sort of
class,
> > especially considering the current job market.  A couple of years
ago if
> > you had CCIE on your resume you were almost sure to get an
outrageous
> > salary with bonues and other killer benefits.  This more than
offset the
> > cost of taking these sorts of classes.
> >
> > In the current market, I've heard that if you have a job position
that
> > requires a CCIE you'll get ten applications!  With the HUGE numbers
of
> > unemployed engineers--of course, depending on where you live--it is
no
> > longer a 'sure thing' that you'll even be able to find a job, let
alone
> > get those huge salaries that made everyone salivate.
> >
> > So, if you had to pay for something like this out of your own
pocket,
> > do you think it's worth it?  Do you think a one-week class that
costs
> > over $4,000 will pay off more in the long run than spending a
fraction
> > of that on a few more routers and some books and then putting in
an
> > extra month or two of practice and study?
> >
> > Here in Denver the market REALLY sucks right now.  Even if I pass
the
> > lab the chances of me moving to a different company--and therefore
> > getting a better salary--are slim to none and Slim might have just
left
> > town.
> >
> > I guess what I'm getting at is this:  do you think these types of
> > companies are pricing themselves right out of the market based on
demand
> > figures from a couple of years ago?  Or, do they seem to be
o

How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? [7:36531]

2002-02-26 Thread Athony Jones

Hi Everyone,
After struggling for the past two days, I have 
successfully cloned a Pix firewall by using my PC.
I plug the 16MB flash card into the PC's ISA slot 
and the PC recognize that it is a Pix flash card
(cost me $400.00). It boots up fine and everything
seems to be in order.  However, after the boot up 
sequence, it asks me for the activation key.  I've 
been trying many different possible scenarios without
much success.  I even tried to use the activation key
from another Pix firewall but that doesn't work
either.

Anybody know how I can fake my clone Pix with a 
fake activation key?  By the way,I am running Pix OS
code version 6.1(2). I even tried 5.3(1), 5.3(2),
6.0(1) and 6.1(1) and one of them works.  By the way,
the PC has 128MB of RAM and a 16Mb Flash ISA card.  
I tried to clone a Pix520.

Please help.

Jason

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Re: written exam passed [7:33460]

2002-02-26 Thread Gobble Degook

lots of people ask the same thing already

test 1,2,3 has 200Q,200Q,400Q respectively. so totally
800Q. 

gobble

--- JimYam  wrote:
> Gobble,
> 
> May I know which Boson 800Q you are refering to?
> I believe they have Boson 1, 2 and 3.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Jim
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> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:54 PM
> Subject: written exam passed [7:33460]
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I passed written this morning with 90, mixed
> feelings.
> >
> > Cisco should really change exam content, honestly
> speaking, only 5
> questions
> > I have never seen before. maybe cisco should sue
> boson, even the ospf area
> > number on the diagram is the same. on the other
> side , I think I am lucky
> > becos I am still under the old content.
> >
> > My suggestion: if they still have this old
> content, just do boson 800
> > questions, then you can pass easily.
> >
> > My preparation: after CCDP, read jeff doyle once,
> ospf sections are
> > excellent. out of patience before I start to read
> caslow and halabi. did
> > boson 800Q, ccprep 200Q. make sure you understand
> each question and
> > knowledge required behind.
> >
> > Can anybody advise me whether I violate NDA by
> saying these things. it is
> > definitely not my intention to do that.
> >
> > Gobble
> > ccnp/dp, mcse, cne, sun csa&cna.
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Re: OT: netmeeting problem [7:36524]

2002-02-26 Thread Patrick Ramsey

sounds like the flux capacitor blew inside the server

Try to run a lightening stick into the back of the primary power supply and
sit it outside during a storm

then do a search on google and click on ther second link...

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=netmeeting+problems 

-Patrick

>>> "Jim Bond"  02/26/02 02:08PM >>>
Hello,

I've got a netmeeting server, when users logon, only
first 2 users can see video, others can only use white
board, share directories. What's wrong?

Thanks.

Jim

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RE: netmeeting problem [7:36524]

2002-02-26 Thread Evans, TJ

Google
Netmeeting limitations
First hit = http://www.cwru.edu/net/csg/cmc/netmeeting.html
Click on limitations ...


4. NetMeeting Limitations
... NetMeeting limits the use of audio and/or video to two participants at
any one time. Using multipoint audio and/or video requires the use of
third-party conference servers that support these functions using the H.323
specification. 



So ... what netmeeting conference server // H.323 gateway are you using?  Is
it configured properly?



Thanks!
TJ


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I've got a netmeeting server, when users logon, only
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Thanks.

Jim

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Simulating an ISDN Switch using an NM-HDV w/ an MFT [7:36527]

2002-02-26 Thread Tim Medley

There was some discussion awhile back (last summer?) about using an
NM-HDV with an MFT module do simulate an ISDN switch for lab use.

Did anyone ever figure out if this was possible? We have an extra NM-HDV
in the office and if it were possible, it might get me a suitable ISDN
simulator without any extra cost.

Someone had mentioned there was a possible new feature in 12.2 to permit
this?

Anyone care to comment or revisit this?

Tim

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Re: Was Re: Where is Bruce Caslow ECP1 Class? [7:36501]

2002-02-26 Thread James Haynes

Chuck,

Well said. I believe you are your own business and should treat yourself as
such. The perfect time to increase your value (if you can afford it) is
during a slow market. You will be able to ride the wave when things do turn
around.



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CQS-SNA/IPSS

""Chuck""  wrote in message
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> Take a lesson from the financial markets. Call this an investment in the
> future. The best time to buy stocks is when they are low. (
> duhh )
>
> The best time to educate and improve yourself is when the market is slow.
> Now is the time to invest in yourself - training, experience, whatever you
> can get.
>
> the market is starting to come back. it's hard to tell, but this is
because
> jobs are a trailing indicator. Companies will delay new hiring until they
> are certain the market is recovering. The economy is indeed recovering as
we
> speak, according to the leading indicators. This will not be reflected in
> the current job market. We may not see the job market improve for several
> more months. But I can tell you, I'm seeing a lot more in terms of
customer
> activity than I was seeing six months ago. Or three months ago, for that
> matter. the biggies are VoIP and VPN, but there is a good share of
> infrastructure upgrade. Without the idiots from defunct places like M1
> mucking up the dialogue, customers are getting better advice IMHO, and are
> seeing the value of investing now.
>
> I suspect the real question here is whether or not there is value to being
a
> CCIE as opposed to some other certification, or expertise in networking in
> general. We could debate this point until doomsday and never come up with
a
> definitive conclusion. IMHO the skills acquired during the CCIE Lab prep
> process are valuable. The cert itself may or may not be of value to a
> particular employer.
>
> My own opinion - always invest in yourself. Invest in the skills that will
> keep you challenged and keep you employed.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm curious about the feelings others have toward this sort of class,
> > especially considering the current job market.  A couple of years ago if
> > you had CCIE on your resume you were almost sure to get an outrageous
> > salary with bonues and other killer benefits.  This more than offset the
> > cost of taking these sorts of classes.
> >
> > In the current market, I've heard that if you have a job position that
> > requires a CCIE you'll get ten applications!  With the HUGE numbers of
> > unemployed engineers--of course, depending on where you live--it is no
> > longer a 'sure thing' that you'll even be able to find a job, let alone
> > get those huge salaries that made everyone salivate.
> >
> > So, if you had to pay for something like this out of your own pocket,
> > do you think it's worth it?  Do you think a one-week class that costs
> > over $4,000 will pay off more in the long run than spending a fraction
> > of that on a few more routers and some books and then putting in an
> > extra month or two of practice and study?
> >
> > Here in Denver the market REALLY sucks right now.  Even if I pass the
> > lab the chances of me moving to a different company--and therefore
> > getting a better salary--are slim to none and Slim might have just left
> > town.
> >
> > I guess what I'm getting at is this:  do you think these types of
> > companies are pricing themselves right out of the market based on demand
> > figures from a couple of years ago?  Or, do they seem to be operating on
> > the premise that as long as there are people willing to pay exorbitant
> > prices, they'll charge sky-high prices.
> >
> > What are your thoughts?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > >>> "Rob Webber"  2/26/02 10:21:23 AM >>>
> > Now called "RS-NMC-1 (Routing and Switching Net Master Class)"
> >
> > Rob.
> >
> > ""Will K.""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Does anyone know where information about this class can be found?
> > Thanks.




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Re: ATM question [7:36496]

2002-02-26 Thread Chuck

not to be a smart ass, but it depends. below are some ideas based on what my
local telco offers:

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> Greetings all,
>
> Couple of general questions about ordering ATM services.
>
> 1- At what increments can I order ATM from a service provider

this is dependent upon the local telco. in this area thre minimum is ATM
T1 - 1.54 you can order 1, 2, 4, or 8, and use IMA to inverse mux them.
after that the local telco here offers 25 mbs and 45 mbs. and so on.

> 2- What kind of termination equipment normally used (ATM DSU, etc)

depends on your decision based on #1. T1 ATM would usually terminate on ATM
IMA equipment. this can be a router blade, or an external box from someplace
like Adtran of Kentrox ( yes I know they changed their name ) up to 45 mbs
would probably come in on a DS3 electrical ( coax ) but more likely the
telco would hand off fiber. OC3 and up would definitely be fiber.

> 3- what are the cost for ATM services.

depends on the local telco. I don't know pricing off hand as I sell
equipment and the telco people sell transport. I believe that a T1 ATM
around here is about the same cost as a regular T1

> 4- Please add anything here that might be relevant to my above
> questions.

keep probing your provider - ask a lot of questions. get a second opinion
from a different provider. keep in mind that prtoviders will charge you in
part based upon the pricing they get from theri telco. If the telco charges
the ISP 5K for transport, the ISP is going to charge you 6K so they can make
some money. Shop around.

>
> Thanks a lot for your time.
>
> Nabil




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OT: netmeeting problem [7:36524]

2002-02-26 Thread Jim Bond

Hello,

I've got a netmeeting server, when users logon, only
first 2 users can see video, others can only use white
board, share directories. What's wrong?

Thanks.

Jim

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Measure bandwidth - network to host from the Network Side. [7:36523]

2002-02-26 Thread Surya Prakash PV

Hi All,

Need Help. I need to measure bandwidth used by one
particular host (IP-address) on a Cisco cat-5005 . Ideas invited. I did
hear about a tool MHTG. Similar to MRTG has anyone implemented it ?

Thanks in Advance.
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Re: Was Re: Where is Bruce Caslow ECP1 Class? [7:36501]

2002-02-26 Thread Chuck

Take a lesson from the financial markets. Call this an investment in the
future. The best time to buy stocks is when they are low. (
duhh )

The best time to educate and improve yourself is when the market is slow.
Now is the time to invest in yourself - training, experience, whatever you
can get.

the market is starting to come back. it's hard to tell, but this is because
jobs are a trailing indicator. Companies will delay new hiring until they
are certain the market is recovering. The economy is indeed recovering as we
speak, according to the leading indicators. This will not be reflected in
the current job market. We may not see the job market improve for several
more months. But I can tell you, I'm seeing a lot more in terms of customer
activity than I was seeing six months ago. Or three months ago, for that
matter. the biggies are VoIP and VPN, but there is a good share of
infrastructure upgrade. Without the idiots from defunct places like M1
mucking up the dialogue, customers are getting better advice IMHO, and are
seeing the value of investing now.

I suspect the real question here is whether or not there is value to being a
CCIE as opposed to some other certification, or expertise in networking in
general. We could debate this point until doomsday and never come up with a
definitive conclusion. IMHO the skills acquired during the CCIE Lab prep
process are valuable. The cert itself may or may not be of value to a
particular employer.

My own opinion - always invest in yourself. Invest in the skills that will
keep you challenged and keep you employed.

Chuck


""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm curious about the feelings others have toward this sort of class,
> especially considering the current job market.  A couple of years ago if
> you had CCIE on your resume you were almost sure to get an outrageous
> salary with bonues and other killer benefits.  This more than offset the
> cost of taking these sorts of classes.
>
> In the current market, I've heard that if you have a job position that
> requires a CCIE you'll get ten applications!  With the HUGE numbers of
> unemployed engineers--of course, depending on where you live--it is no
> longer a 'sure thing' that you'll even be able to find a job, let alone
> get those huge salaries that made everyone salivate.
>
> So, if you had to pay for something like this out of your own pocket,
> do you think it's worth it?  Do you think a one-week class that costs
> over $4,000 will pay off more in the long run than spending a fraction
> of that on a few more routers and some books and then putting in an
> extra month or two of practice and study?
>
> Here in Denver the market REALLY sucks right now.  Even if I pass the
> lab the chances of me moving to a different company--and therefore
> getting a better salary--are slim to none and Slim might have just left
> town.
>
> I guess what I'm getting at is this:  do you think these types of
> companies are pricing themselves right out of the market based on demand
> figures from a couple of years ago?  Or, do they seem to be operating on
> the premise that as long as there are people willing to pay exorbitant
> prices, they'll charge sky-high prices.
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> John
>
>
>
> >>> "Rob Webber"  2/26/02 10:21:23 AM >>>
> Now called "RS-NMC-1 (Routing and Switching Net Master Class)"
>
> Rob.
>
> ""Will K.""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Does anyone know where information about this class can be found?
> Thanks.




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How Faceless the CQS Logos are??? [7:36521]

2002-02-26 Thread Godswill HO

Hello,
I know the focus of any certification is not the certificate nor the logo,
the
joy of scaling through all the hurdles, the additional knowledge and
responsibilies it brings, etc out weighs the the certificate or the logo you
are given to put on your complimentary card of letter heading.

However, the logo and the certificate, etc should be appropriate in terms of
quality, representations and designs, no doubt it adds some prestige both to
the holder and the vendor. I was disappointed to find out that the Cisco CQS
certification in so faceless. All that you see in the logo is "Cisco
Certified"...No indication to the type of certification, no mention of
anything relating to it whatsoever. Logos are normally graphical
representations, But Cisco logos are not, no one who sees the CQS logo will
know what it stands for nor what it represents.

I think Cisco can do more, they have the money and resources. sometimes we
had
to pay through our nose to get these certifications, It is only fair one get
value for his hard earned money. It also tell how serious, dedicated and
committed the vendor is to their certifications process. If Cisco would
commit
half the money, strength and vigor they currently exhibits in pursuing and
executing their NDA into this, it would go a way to add more value to the
whole process.

I thought someone shares the same thought with me.

Enjoy.
Godswill Oletu CSS1,CCDP,CCNP.




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Re: Where is Bruce Caslow ECP1 Class? [7:36501]

2002-02-26 Thread Cisco Nuts

Where exactly in Reston is NMC...They do not have any directions on their 
web-site nor do they return emails etc...


>From: "Rob Webber" 
>Reply-To: "Rob Webber" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Where is Bruce Caslow ECP1 Class? [7:36501]
>Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:21:23 -0500
>
>Now called "RS-NMC-1 (Routing and Switching Net Master Class)"
>
>Rob.
>
>""Will K.""  wrote in message
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> > Does anyone know where information about this class can be found? 
>Thanks.
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Re: CS11152 SSL Not working [7:36505]

2002-02-26 Thread sam sneed

I see what your saying but we have a couple dedicated servers for secure
transcations.theres gotta be an easier way to do this without writitng the
scripts. I'm gonna stay on it till I find and I'll post the config once i
get working, hopefully by the end of the day.  Thanks for the input.

""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> We have the same issue here, but since our physical web servers run both
> a secure and unsecure site, we simply use ping for the secure service
> and an http get for the unsecure service.  If we see the unsecure site
> go down, we know users won't be able to get to the secure site either.
> If it were possible we could get away with turning off keepalives on the
> secure site since it's kind of pointless.
>
> I believe it's possible to setup scripted keepalives where the CSS
> actually logs into your secure site but that's way to much work.  :-)
>
> John
>
> >>> "sam sneed"  2/26/02 9:58:54 AM >>>
> I was thinking the same thing but I did not try that. My problem with
> that
> is if the HTTP service fails and SSL down with it the ping will still
> show
> the server as availbale and forward requests to it. You think there is
> some
> way I could specify the keepalive with a port # instead of  type http?
>
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Could this have something to do with your keepalive setting?  Have
> you
> > tried using  a standard ping keepalive to see if that helps?  I
> wasn't
> > aware that you could use the http keepalive on port 443 with this
> box.
> >
> > John
> >
> > >>> "sam sneed"  2/26/02 9:23:04 AM >>>
> > Hello group,
> >
> > I am trying to get a CS11152 (old arrowpoint)  to load balance SSL
> > conections to 2 servers but it is not working. SSL works on the
> servers
> > and
> > if I change my DNS so traffic does not got to the CS11252 VIP
> address
> > but
> > simply routes through it to the servers the public can get an SSL
> > conncetion
> > to my server. (please note i am using public IP addresses for on the
> > servers
> > NIC and as a VIP.). Whe I do a show services summary it tell me the
> > service
> > is down:
> >
> > svc-w1.test-secure   Down  0  1   255
> 0
> > svc-w2.test-secure   Down  0  1   255
> 0
> >
> > Can anyone see what i'm dong wrong?
> >
> > Here is the services/content configs:
> >
> > service svc-w1.test-secure
> >   ip address 10.10.10.41
> >   port 443
> >   keepalive type http
> >   keepalive method get
> >   keepalive uri "/http-ping.html"
> >   active
> >
> > service svc-w2.test-secure
> >   ip address 10.10.10.42
> >   port 443
> >   keepalive type http
> >   keepalive method get
> >   keepalive uri "/http-ping.html"
> >   active
> >
> > content cnt-www.test-secure
> > protocol tcp
> > port 443
> > balance aca
> > url "/*"
> > add service svc-w1.test-secure
> > add service svc-w2.test-secure
> > vip address 172.16.243.40
> > active




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catalyst 3548XL Question [7:36518]

2002-02-26 Thread Bob Perez

I have 8 cats separated on 2 floors and I want to create some sort of
failover but want to make sure that it will work and will not cause any
problems.  The diagram below is my setup and I have 4 cats on fl1 connected
to 4 cats on fl2 via fiber from sw4 to sw5 but I would like to run a piece
of fiber from sw1 to sw8 as well if 3 or 4 goes down.  Can I do this without
causing any network interruption?? And is there any special setup that
should be done to stop routing loops??  Such as enable STP??  They all are
in the same VLAN of 1.  No special VLAN configs have been created.



 Floor 1

     

RE: Serial interface problem [7:36423]

2002-02-26 Thread s vermill

I don't think Cisco publishes what the hex codes mean after the "new serial
state = 0x" line.  Anyone know?  I did find reference to something
generic that read "hardware has interrupted the software."  You seem to have
a lot going on in that regard.  Every four or five seconds on both ends of
the link you are experiencing one or more hardware interrupts.  As a last
resort, I would look into control lead options (no pulse, ignore dcd, etc). 
Actually, the TAC would certainly have access to those code values so they
would be my true last resort.

It's difficult to say which is the horse and which is the cart.  Are your
routers not successfully exchanging keepalives because of the hardware
activity or is your hardware activity the result of not exchanging
keepalives?  If I recall, dtr is supposed to pulse once, then again in 5
seconds, and then every 30 seconds until the protocol comes back up.  I have
no idea what dcd and dsr are supposed to do when running as a dce.

Scott


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Was Re: Where is Bruce Caslow ECP1 Class? [7:36501]

2002-02-26 Thread John Neiberger

I'm curious about the feelings others have toward this sort of class,
especially considering the current job market.  A couple of years ago if
you had CCIE on your resume you were almost sure to get an outrageous
salary with bonues and other killer benefits.  This more than offset the
cost of taking these sorts of classes.

In the current market, I've heard that if you have a job position that
requires a CCIE you'll get ten applications!  With the HUGE numbers of
unemployed engineers--of course, depending on where you live--it is no
longer a 'sure thing' that you'll even be able to find a job, let alone
get those huge salaries that made everyone salivate.

So, if you had to pay for something like this out of your own pocket,
do you think it's worth it?  Do you think a one-week class that costs
over $4,000 will pay off more in the long run than spending a fraction
of that on a few more routers and some books and then putting in an
extra month or two of practice and study?

Here in Denver the market REALLY sucks right now.  Even if I pass the
lab the chances of me moving to a different company--and therefore
getting a better salary--are slim to none and Slim might have just left
town.  

I guess what I'm getting at is this:  do you think these types of
companies are pricing themselves right out of the market based on demand
figures from a couple of years ago?  Or, do they seem to be operating on
the premise that as long as there are people willing to pay exorbitant
prices, they'll charge sky-high prices.

What are your thoughts?

John



>>> "Rob Webber"  2/26/02 10:21:23 AM >>>
Now called "RS-NMC-1 (Routing and Switching Net Master Class)"

Rob.

""Will K.""  wrote in message
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> Does anyone know where information about this class can be found?
Thanks.




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Re: Where is Bruce Caslow ECP1 Class? [7:36501]

2002-02-26 Thread Rob Webber

Oops - apparently the link did not come through for some reason. It is:

www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/

Rob.

""Will K.""  wrote in message
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> Does anyone know where information about this class can be found? Thanks.




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Re: CS11152 SSL Not working [7:36505]

2002-02-26 Thread John Neiberger

We have the same issue here, but since our physical web servers run both
a secure and unsecure site, we simply use ping for the secure service
and an http get for the unsecure service.  If we see the unsecure site
go down, we know users won't be able to get to the secure site either. 
If it were possible we could get away with turning off keepalives on the
secure site since it's kind of pointless.

I believe it's possible to setup scripted keepalives where the CSS
actually logs into your secure site but that's way to much work.  :-)

John

>>> "sam sneed"  2/26/02 9:58:54 AM >>>
I was thinking the same thing but I did not try that. My problem with
that
is if the HTTP service fails and SSL down with it the ping will still
show
the server as availbale and forward requests to it. You think there is
some
way I could specify the keepalive with a port # instead of  type http?

""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Could this have something to do with your keepalive setting?  Have
you
> tried using  a standard ping keepalive to see if that helps?  I
wasn't
> aware that you could use the http keepalive on port 443 with this
box.
>
> John
>
> >>> "sam sneed"  2/26/02 9:23:04 AM >>>
> Hello group,
>
> I am trying to get a CS11152 (old arrowpoint)  to load balance SSL
> conections to 2 servers but it is not working. SSL works on the
servers
> and
> if I change my DNS so traffic does not got to the CS11252 VIP
address
> but
> simply routes through it to the servers the public can get an SSL
> conncetion
> to my server. (please note i am using public IP addresses for on the
> servers
> NIC and as a VIP.). Whe I do a show services summary it tell me the
> service
> is down:
>
> svc-w1.test-secure   Down  0  1   255   
0
> svc-w2.test-secure   Down  0  1   255   
0
>
> Can anyone see what i'm dong wrong?
>
> Here is the services/content configs:
>
> service svc-w1.test-secure
>   ip address 10.10.10.41
>   port 443
>   keepalive type http
>   keepalive method get
>   keepalive uri "/http-ping.html"
>   active
>
> service svc-w2.test-secure
>   ip address 10.10.10.42
>   port 443
>   keepalive type http
>   keepalive method get
>   keepalive uri "/http-ping.html"
>   active
>
> content cnt-www.test-secure
> protocol tcp
> port 443
> balance aca
> url "/*"
> add service svc-w1.test-secure
> add service svc-w2.test-secure
> vip address 172.16.243.40
> active




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Re: Where is Bruce Caslow ECP1 Class? [7:36501]

2002-02-26 Thread Rob Webber

Now called "RS-NMC-1 (Routing and Switching Net Master Class)"

Rob.

""Will K.""  wrote in message
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> Does anyone know where information about this class can be found? Thanks.




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RE: CCIP exam info [7:36483]

2002-02-26 Thread Mike Bernico

I just finished this Cert.  I found all of these tests more challenging than
the CCNP tests.  MPLS was particularly hard.



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> -Original Message-
> From: s vermill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:21 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCIP exam info [7:36483]
> 
> 
> All I will say is DO NOT underestimate IS-IS.  It isn't just 
> an "added"
> topic.  I would also warn that this exam is geared towards ISPs.  It
> shouldn't be too much of a stretch of the imagination, then, 
> that BGP is
> also well represented.  I think a lot of folks are misled 
> into believing
> that a small number of IS-IS questions are added to BSCN.  I 
> also think that
> a lot of folks mistakenly believe in the myth that OSPF and 
> IS-IS are nearly
> identical.  I personally would say that they are distant 
> cousins.  Yes, SPF
> is at the core.  That is where the similarities begin to part company.
> 
> I know this isn't much on "detail."  But that is as close to 
> NDA as I am
> willing to go.
> 
> By the way, I read my way through the various RFCs.  Cisco 
> Press has a new
> book out on the subject.  I'm sure that is a much easier read.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott
> 
> Christophe Nemeth wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I would like to go for CCIP and I have a question about one of
> > the exams.
> > 
> > What is the difference between BSCN and BSCI.
> > I have the courseware for BSCN and I would like to know if that
> > is the same
> > as for BSCI.
> > thanks a lot
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > chris




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Re: CS11152 SSL Not working [7:36505]

2002-02-26 Thread sam sneed

I was thinking the same thing but I did not try that. My problem with that
is if the HTTP service fails and SSL down with it the ping will still show
the server as availbale and forward requests to it. You think there is some
way I could specify the keepalive with a port # instead of  type http?

""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Could this have something to do with your keepalive setting?  Have you
> tried using  a standard ping keepalive to see if that helps?  I wasn't
> aware that you could use the http keepalive on port 443 with this box.
>
> John
>
> >>> "sam sneed"  2/26/02 9:23:04 AM >>>
> Hello group,
>
> I am trying to get a CS11152 (old arrowpoint)  to load balance SSL
> conections to 2 servers but it is not working. SSL works on the servers
> and
> if I change my DNS so traffic does not got to the CS11252 VIP address
> but
> simply routes through it to the servers the public can get an SSL
> conncetion
> to my server. (please note i am using public IP addresses for on the
> servers
> NIC and as a VIP.). Whe I do a show services summary it tell me the
> service
> is down:
>
> svc-w1.test-secure   Down  0  1   2550
> svc-w2.test-secure   Down  0  1   2550
>
> Can anyone see what i'm dong wrong?
>
> Here is the services/content configs:
>
> service svc-w1.test-secure
>   ip address 10.10.10.41
>   port 443
>   keepalive type http
>   keepalive method get
>   keepalive uri "/http-ping.html"
>   active
>
> service svc-w2.test-secure
>   ip address 10.10.10.42
>   port 443
>   keepalive type http
>   keepalive method get
>   keepalive uri "/http-ping.html"
>   active
>
> content cnt-www.test-secure
> protocol tcp
> port 443
> balance aca
> url "/*"
> add service svc-w1.test-secure
> add service svc-w2.test-secure
> vip address 172.16.243.40
> active




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E1 voice Connection (PRI) between AS5300 and 3Com NBX [7:36510]

2002-02-26 Thread Anibal Pita

Hi guys

Somebody know or have experienced an E1 voice Connection (PRI) between
AS5300 and 3Com NBX. I'm testing the connection to do VoIp between a
remote site (Cisco 1750) and a Central site (Cisco5300). The AS5300 is
only connected via LAN. The WAN connection in Central Site is made with
a Cisco 7140.

The 3Com NBX emulate the PBX.

We have try with diferents isdn type Switch and signaling but it no
work. Always appear "BAD FRAME..."

Somebody know about the compatibility between both devices ?

Thanks


Anibal Pita
Ingedigit C.A
Ingenierma Div. Telecomunicaciones
Soluciones de Internetworking voz, datos y SS7
Telifonos: 58-0212-9534811 / 58-0414-2340304 / Fax: 58-0212-9536705
Website: http://www.ingedigit.com
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