RE: BGP - Synchronization [7:39733]

2002-03-27 Thread Peter van Oene

Sure,

First two are short and sweet and described the typical relationship.

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200201/msg00078.html
http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200201/msg00081.html

Longer answer i posted sometime back

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200201/msg6.html

At 08:39 PM 3/27/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Yes riddles indeed, but I can't find a resolution! If there's a simple
>answer will you please be kind and just tell me about it? Is it to:
>
>1. use confederations instead of reflectors
>2. redistribute bgp into ospf and vice versa
>3. either of the above
>4. or none of the above?
>
>Thanks for your help :)
>Tarek
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Peter van Oene
>Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:31 PM
>To: Tarek Sabry; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: BGP - Synchronization
>
>
>The archives are riddled with discussion on this topic.  Much of it very
>recent (last 2-3 months if I recall)
>
>
>At 04:06 PM 3/27/2002 -0600, Tarek Sabry wrote:
> >I can get things to work with "no sync", but I was wondering why they are
> >not otherwise. My understanding is that if the route does exist in the IGP
> >then it should be OK for advertising. What am I missing?
> >
> >Below is an illustration for my case for the 88.0.0.0 network.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Tarek
> >
> >
> >r3#sh ip bgp
> >BGP table version is 1, local router ID is 200.0.0.3
> >Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i -
> >internal
> >Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
> >
> >Network  Next HopMetric LocPrf Weight Path
> >* i8.8.8.0/24   10.10.0.80100  0 i
> >* i88.0.0.0 10.10.0.80100  0 i
> >* i192.168.1.0  10.10.0.80100  0 i
> >* i192.168.2.0  10.10.0.80100  0 i
> >r3#
> >r3#
> >r3#
> >r3#
> >r3#sh ip route 88.0.0.0 255.0.0.0
> >Routing entry for 88.0.0.0/8
> >   Known via "ospf 1", distance 110, metric 65, type inter area
> >   Redistributing via ospf 1
> >   Last update from 10.10.0.8 on Serial0.1, 02:10:35 ago
> >   Routing Descriptor Blocks:
> >   * 10.10.0.8, from 10.10.0.8, 02:10:35 ago, via Serial0.1
> >   Route metric is 65, traffic share count is 1
> >r3#
> >r3#
> >r3#
> >r3#
> >r3#sh ip bgp 88.0.0.0
> >BGP routing table entry for 88.0.0.0/8, version 0
> >Paths: (1 available, no best path)
> >   Not advertised to any peer
> >   Local, (Received from a RR-client)
> > 10.10.0.8 (metric 64) from 10.10.0.8 (8.8.8.8)
> >   Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, internal, not
> >synchronized, ref 2
> >r3#
> >r3#
> >
> >-
> >Tarek Sabry
> >Senior Network Engineer
> >Schlumberger Network Solutions
> >-
> >_
> >Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html
> >Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list.
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Multicast Question [7:39732]

2002-03-27 Thread IT Guy

Guys,

Need your help to clear some concept.
Suppose we have  4 routers ,we want to configure 3 of them as a PIM SParse 
mode  and one as a Dense mode.Can they communicate with each other??I meant 
can they transfer multicasting info to each other.

or we must have to use PIM  SPARSE DENSE mode on all routers??

Thkx for help.

TOM

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RE: 3640 Digital Modem Problem [7:39709]

2002-03-27 Thread Michael Williams

I looked over your config.  It looks like everything's in order.  I must
admit I've not used the BRI as you are, only PRI, but concept is similar.

I did find an URL:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1917.htm

(watch for wrap)  I found something there saying:


Digital (Integrated) Modem Call Pickup
On an external modem, it is clear whether the call is getting answered, but
internal modems require a manual call to the receiving number. Listen for
the answer back tone (ABT). If no ABT is heard, check the configuration for
two things:


Make sure that the command isdn incoming-voice modem exists under any ISDN
interfaces handling incoming modem connections.


Under the line configuration for the modem's TTY, make sure that the command
modem inout exists.

It is also possible that an internal modem was not allocated by the Call
Switching Module (CSM) to handle the incoming call. This problem can be
caused by modem or resource pools being configured for too few incoming
connections, or the access server my simply be out of modems. Check the
availability of modems, and adjust the modem pool or resource pool manager
settings appropriately. If a modem was allocated and the configuration shows
modem inout, gather debugs and contact Cisco for assistance
---

Note the last part saying "contact Cisco".  Basically it seems you've done
what this is recommending so a call to TAC may be in order

HTH,
Mike W.


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where can I get the guide of configuration about the mpls? [7:39728]

2002-03-27 Thread cage

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how can I join the mail-list only for the lab in groupstudy? [7:39727]

2002-03-27 Thread cage

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RE: Cheap 2950G [7:39718]

2002-03-27 Thread Mark Odette II

and for $125 bucks more, you can add IP routing functionality by getting the
C3550-24-E-NFR.

24 ports of 10/100, 2 ports of GBIC uplink, IP Routing with RIP v1 or 2,
OSPF, (E)IGRP, QoS, and many other nifty features

Again, This is only applicable to Resellers.  Sorry Folks.

-Mark

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Subject: Cheap 2950G [7:39718]


If youre not a reseller, dont read past this point:)

I was checking prices at Ingram tonight for a customer who ordered a few
2950Gs. A part number of WS-C2950G-24-NGR came up for a price of $325, one
per reseller type of deal. List on this switch is $2995. If your office
doesnt have one in the lab, this is a good time to get a new switch for
real cheap. Sorry you guys building a home lab had to read this!

Jeffrey Reed
Classic Networking, Inc.
Cell 717-805-5536
Office 717-737-8586
FAX 717-737-0290




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Re: routing between vlans in 2900 throuh external 2610? [7:39725]

2002-03-27 Thread John Neiberger

In some releases of the IOS you can't place the native VLAN on 
a subinterface.  Remove the subinterface you have for VLAN1 and 
put the VLAN1 IP address on the major interface like this:

interface Fastethernet0/0
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
interface Fastethernet0/0
 encapsulation dot1q 2  (or is that encapsulation 2 dot1q ?)
 ip address 10.2.2.1 255.255.255.0

You get the idea.

HTH,
John



 On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, cage ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> when routing between vlans in 2900 throuh sub-ethernet of 
external 2610,
> except the vlan1 all other vlans can communicate each other, 
why? I used
> the
> 802.1q encapsulation.
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Re: What is bandwidth domain? [7:38887]

2002-03-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But what if you bung a bridge in the 10.10.10.0/24 network somewhere? That 
will split your collision domain but not your broadcast domain.

Or, more likely, what if instead of a hub, the hosts in 10.10.10.0/24 are 
connected by a switch (aka multi-port bridge ;-)?  Then every host is in 
its own collision domain (well, each collision domain includes the host 
and the switch port), but they are still all in one broadcast domain.
 
Just because the collision domain and the broadcast domain are the same in 
one specific case does not mean that they are the same thing in the 
general case.

JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/03/2002 02:02 pm -


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Subject:Re: What is bandwidth domain? [7:38887]


but please consider this diagram:

 ---ROUTER
  ||||  ||| | 
  ABCD  EFG H

A,B,C,D are hosts in say network 10.10.10.0 /24
E,F,G,H are hosts in say network 10.10.9.0  /24

say Host A sends a broadcast, then it will be heard by
the network on left side and not on right side as
ROUTER will not allow any broadcast through. 
and the hosts in network on left are connected to a
HUB and network on right to another separate HUB.

Now the collision domain and broadcast domain for the
network on left side is same. is it not ?


--- Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote:
> At 01:02 PM 3/27/02, John Green wrote:
> >so Broadcast domains and Bandwidth domains are the
> >same ?
> 
> Of course not. We said that bandwidth and collision
> domains are the same on Ethernet.
> 
> >  (i guess so)
> >
> >For Ethernet broadcast and collision domains are
> the
> >same. right ?
> 
> Of course not. You may be confused because some
> people use "broadcast" when 
> talking about sending Ethernet at the physical
> layer. A coaxial cable is 
> sometimes called a broadcast medium because the bits
> radiate out from the 
> sender and reach all senders on the cable. It's an
> unfortunate use of the 
> term that has been carried into generic discussions
> of Ethernet, despite 
> the demise of coaxial-cable based Ethernet.
> 
> Broadcast means a frame addressed to
> FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF. Switches forward 
> these frames to all ports. They forward unicasts
> only to the correct port 
> once they learn the location of destinations. A hub,
> on the other hand, 
> forwards all bits without regards for the
> destination address.
> 
> This is networking 101. Do you know about the CCNA
> study list? You should 
> join that list.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> 
> >--- Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote:
> > > A bandwidth domain is an area of a network where
> all
> > > devices can hear each
> > > other's transmissions. A collision domain is a
> type
> > > of bandwidth domain,
> > > but it's specific to Ethernet.
> > >
> > > I think people started using the term "collision
> > > domain" first and then
> > > someone said, "yes, but that doesn't apply to
> token
> > > ring which doesn't have
> > > collisions!" so some marketing engineer came up
> with
> > > the term "bandwidth
> > > domain." ;-)
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> >
> >
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routing between vlans in 2900 throuh external 2610? [7:39723]

2002-03-27 Thread cage

when routing between vlans in 2900 throuh sub-ethernet of external 2610,
except the vlan1 all other vlans can communicate each other, why? I used the
802.1q encapsulation.




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Re: Cheap switch... [7:39547]

2002-03-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Aug 17,  5:04am, "sam sneed" wrote:
}
} The XL switches run IOS which you need to know anyway the non XL run CatOS.
} I'd say spend a little more money and get a 5000 series switch, it'll be
} able to do layer 3 with the rigth accesories. No XL swtiches do Layer 3.

 No, but there is the new 3550 series, which are really cheap for
Layer 3 switches.  I was actually quite impressed when I found them.
There is also the 3550-48-SMI (Layer 2 only, but software upgradable),
which compares to the 2948G, but is cheaper.  See
http://www.cisco.com/go/cat3550/ for more info.

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I have problem with IP telephony [7:39721]

2002-03-27 Thread Pc9101

Dear Group +ACE-
I've set up a system with an MCS server running Call Manager 3.1, a voice
gateway (router 3660 with FXO cards) some 7910.

The problem is when I make phone call from PSTN to IP Phone, if i hang up the
analog phone, the IP phone still ring ring and ring ... it cannot stop until
I
pick it up.

Do you know how to stop the ring when remote phone hung up ?
Thank you in advance




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Re: VLAN protocol b/w Cisco and non-Cisco switches? [7:39673]

2002-03-27 Thread Cisco Nuts

So based on this does this mean that 802.1q is both the vlan protocol as
well as the frame-tagging protocol compared to Cisco's VTP and ISL?

Thanks

>From: "J-B" >Reply-To: "J-B" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re:
VLAN protocol b/w Cisco and non-Cisco switches? [7:39673] >Date: Wed, 27
Mar 2002 15:48:25 -0500 > >Sr. > >802.1q is the way to go with a non
cisco switchactually there is lot of >talking about cisco droping
ISL. > >JB >""Cisco Nuts"" wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hello,What is the VLAN
protocol that can runs between a Cisco and a > > non-Cisco switch? I
understand that VTP is the protocol if only running > > Cisco switches.
Is it still IEEE 802.1q that propagates VLAN info. > > between these
non-Cisco switches? If so, then can IEEE 802.1q be > > considered a
frame-tagging protocol as well as a vlan protocol? I > > understand that
Cisco has ISL and VTP.Thank you. > > > >

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Re: OSPF NSSA [7:38881]

2002-03-27 Thread Chris Camplejohn

The answer to the original question is that it is a bug:  CSCdw67111
(OSPFv2:default-info-originate has incorrect metric type for NSSA).

It isn't fixed until 12.2(10), which isn't out yet.


""Hunt Lee""  wrote in message
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> Steve,
>
> I think on p540 of Jeff Doyle, the reason that it has N1 metric type is
> because the RIP routes are redistributed into OSPF with "metric type 1".
>
> Lee
>
>
> ""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > According to the example in Doyle's Vol 1. book, using the command "no
> > redis" instead of default-metric creates the N1 stuff.  It's on page
540,
> > footnote 27.
> >
> > --
> >
> > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > Get in my head:
> > http://sar.dynu.com
> >
> >
> > ""Chee Kin""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Has anyone tried this command?
> > >
> > > area 1 nssa default-information-originate metric-type 1
> > >
> > > This is the effect on one of the routers in the NSSA.
> > >
> > > O*N2 0.0.0.0/0 [110/1] via 192.168.2.66, 00:27:33, TokenRing0
> > >
> > > I was expecting to see O*N1.  Is the above output correct?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > cheekin




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Cheap 2950G [7:39718]

2002-03-27 Thread Jeffrey Reed

If youre not a reseller, dont read past this point:)

I was checking prices at Ingram tonight for a customer who ordered a few
2950Gs. A part number of WS-C2950G-24-NGR came up for a price of $325, one
per reseller type of deal. List on this switch is $2995. If your office
doesnt have one in the lab, this is a good time to get a new switch for
real cheap. Sorry you guys building a home lab had to read this!

Jeffrey Reed
Classic Networking, Inc.
Cell 717-805-5536
Office 717-737-8586
FAX 717-737-0290




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Looking for an used book.. [7:39715]

2002-03-27 Thread Rajesh Kumar

Hi all,

I am looking for the book :

Configuring Cisco routers for bridging, DLSW+ and Desktop protocols by
Tan Nam-kee.


I anybody interested to sell this book, pls let me know.

Thanks,
Rajesh




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RE: pix and e-mail problem [7:39643]

2002-03-27 Thread Bernard


Bernard Omrani


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
> Lidiya White
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: pix and e-mail problem [7:39643]
> 
> Mailguard on the PIX is "fixup". If you do have fixup protocol for
mail,
> remove this.
> It is well know issue with Microsoft for the TAC :-)))
> I do have article from Microsoft about this, If you would like I can
> e-mail it to your later (I have it in bookmarks on another
computer)...
> 
> -- Lidiya White




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Re: BGP Next-Hop [7:39704]

2002-03-27 Thread Peter van Oene

Hi Hunt,

A little cut and past here.  For those reading along, it page 150 of version
1.

Router A (SJ) has only 1 physical connection which is to router B with an 
IGP next hop of 3.3.3.3.  In this example, Halabi is describing the 
relationship between IGP and BGP next Hops.  2.2.2.0/24 is likely learned 
via the IGP and is reachable through via 3.3.3.3 which is the IGP next hop 
toward router C.  The same goes for 1.1.1.0/24 which again is reachable via 
router C.  Indeed, router A has only one path out of the network.  In 
reality, the network looks like this:

ABC---EBGP--D

A,B, and C are fully meshed with IBGP.  Hence, A will only ever have one 
IGP next hop since it has only one path toward other networks and must 
transit router B.

Keep in mind that you are looking at the Routing Table, not the BGP 
table.  These are quite different which is what Sam is trying to point out.

What may be confusing you is that at first glance it looks like SF has a 
direct link to SJ (A to C) when in fact it doesn't, and the line in the 
diagram is really an arrow describing the logical IBGP connection.

Hope that helps?

Pete



What I am confused it's the Routing Table of Router A,

>Destination 192.212.1.0 /24Next-hop  2.2.2.2(Best Route inserted
>from BGP table) - cool
>
>Destination 128.213.1.0 /24Next-hop:  1.1.1.1   (Best Route inserted
>from BGP table) - cool
>
>Destination 3.3.3.0 /24Next-hop:   Directly Connected via Serial
>0 - cool
>
>Destination 2.2.2.0 /24 Next-hop: 3.3.3.3(why??  isn't this
>directly connected via IBGP, shouldn't it be directly connected?)
>
>Destination 1.1.1.0 /24Next-hop:  3.3.3.3(why?? shouldn't
>this have 2 routes, one via 3.3.3.3, and the other via 2.2.2.2?)
>
>
>Also, I thought that in such a scenario, one would want to make sure that
>every BGP Next-Hop can be reached via either IGP or static routes - However,
>Halabi says it's only needed for IBGP Next-hop, is it correct?
>
>Thanks,
>Hunt




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Re: What is bandwidth domain? [7:38887]

2002-03-27 Thread John Green

but please consider this diagram:

 ---ROUTER
  ||||  ||| | 
  ABCD  EFG H

A,B,C,D are hosts in say network 10.10.10.0 /24
E,F,G,H are hosts in say network 10.10.9.0  /24

say Host A sends a broadcast, then it will be heard by
the network on left side and not on right side as
ROUTER will not allow any broadcast through. 
and the hosts in network on left are connected to a
HUB and network on right to another separate HUB.

Now the collision domain and broadcast domain for the
network on left side is same. is it not ?


--- Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote:
> At 01:02 PM 3/27/02, John Green wrote:
> >so Broadcast domains and Bandwidth domains are the
> >same ?
> 
> Of course not. We said that bandwidth and collision
> domains are the same on Ethernet.
> 
> >  (i guess so)
> >
> >For Ethernet broadcast and collision domains are
> the
> >same. right ?
> 
> Of course not. You may be confused because some
> people use "broadcast" when 
> talking about sending Ethernet at the physical
> layer. A coaxial cable is 
> sometimes called a broadcast medium because the bits
> radiate out from the 
> sender and reach all senders on the cable. It's an
> unfortunate use of the 
> term that has been carried into generic discussions
> of Ethernet, despite 
> the demise of coaxial-cable based Ethernet.
> 
> Broadcast means a frame addressed to
> FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF. Switches forward 
> these frames to all ports. They forward unicasts
> only to the correct port 
> once they learn the location of destinations. A hub,
> on the other hand, 
> forwards all bits without regards for the
> destination address.
> 
> This is networking 101. Do you know about the CCNA
> study list? You should 
> join that list.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> 
> >--- Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote:
> > > A bandwidth domain is an area of a network where
> all
> > > devices can hear each
> > > other's transmissions. A collision domain is a
> type
> > > of bandwidth domain,
> > > but it's specific to Ethernet.
> > >
> > > I think people started using the term "collision
> > > domain" first and then
> > > someone said, "yes, but that doesn't apply to
> token
> > > ring which doesn't have
> > > collisions!" so some marketing engineer came up
> with
> > > the term "bandwidth
> > > domain." ;-)
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> >
> >
> >__
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy
> Awards.
> >http://movies.yahoo.com/
> 
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com
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Re: framerelay between 2501 and 2611 [7:39617]

2002-03-27 Thread news.groupstudy.com

Sam,

Yes that back-to-back config works, yet you will not gain the knowledge and
skills that I think you are after.

It's true, you do need a third router to be the frame cloud, but that
doesn't buy you much either. The key is to make the frame switch, also a DTE
Hub router. However, you must have at least 4 interfaces (like a 2520). This
will allow you to connect a DCE/DTE cable between two of the ports, thus
allowing the 2520 to also be a hub router.

As you grow your lab, and add two more routers, the 2520 can still serve a
frame switch for 4 routers, it just can't be a hub router anymore.

Here is the config that makes this work - remember ports 2 and 3 are
connected with a back-to-back cable.

---

2120 Hub router with 4 interfaces, interfaces S2 and S3 are looped via a
DCE/DTE cable, R2 is connected to S0, R3 is connected to S1.

This config allows R1 (the 2520) to not only become a frame switch for R2,
and R3, but it allows R1 to be a DTE device (or hub router).

R1 Config:

frame-relay switching

interface Serial0
 description -- Serial Connection to R2
 clockrate 64000
 bandwidth 64
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 100 interface Serial 2 150

interface Serial1
 description -- Serial Connection to R3
 clockrate 64000
 bandwidth 64
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 200 interface Serial 2 250

interface Serial2
 description -- To Terminating FR DTE sub-if -- S3.x
 clockrate 64000
 bandwidth 64
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 150 interface Serial0 100
 frame-relay route 250 interface Serial1 200

interface Serial3
 description -- Terminated FR DTE sub-if
 bandwidth 64
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay

interface Serial3.1 point-to-point
 bandwidth 64
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
 frame-relay interface-dlci 150
!
interface Serial3.2 point-to-point
 bandwidth 64
 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0
 frame-relay interface-dlci 250

Have fun,
Vinnie

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> a 2501 router and would like to know if this works before i buy a
2611.Need
> to learn Frame Relay.
>
>  Thanks alot  in advance.




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3640 Digital Modem Problem #2 - config [7:39710]

2002-03-27 Thread Firesox

Here is the config
3640-Router#sh run
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
! Last configuration change at 15:50:07 EST Fri Mar 22 2002
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug datetime localtime
service timestamps log datetime localtime
service password-encryption
!
hostname 3640-Router
!
logging buffered 8192 debugging
aaa new-model
aaa authentication login default radius local
aaa authentication login NOAUTH none
aaa authentication login LINE line
aaa authentication ppp default radius
aaa authorization network default radius
aaa accounting exec default start-stop radius
aaa accounting network default start-stop radius
enable secret 5 $1$WOiv$Y36Ly7qDTlc5.vjy8W4Ji.
!
username whatever password 7 15180805
clock timezone EST -5
clock summer-time ESD recurring
modem country mica usa
ip subnet-zero
no ip source-route
no ip finger
no ip domain-lookup
ip name-server 10.0.0.2
ip name-server 10.0.0.3
ip name-server 134.241.180.1
!
ip dhcp-server 10.0.0.2
appletalk routing
appletalk virtual-net 50 printers
isdn switch-type basic-dms100
!
!
!
interface Ethernet1/0
 ip address 10.0.9.4 255.255.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 appletalk cable-range 1-30 11.236
 appletalk zone printers
!
interface BRI2/0
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 ip tcp header-compression passive
 isdn switch-type basic-dms100
 isdn spid1 xx xx
 isdn spid2 xx xx
 isdn incoming-voice modem
 no cdp enable
!
interface BRI2/1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 isdn switch-type basic-dms100
 isdn spid1 xx xx
 isdn spid2 xx xx
 isdn incoming-voice modem
 no cdp enable
!
interface BRI2/2
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 shutdown
 isdn switch-type basic-5ess
 isdn incoming-voice modem
!
interface BRI2/3
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 shutdown
 isdn switch-type basic-5ess
 isdn incoming-voice modem
!
interface Group-Async0
 description "Analog Lines in Slot 3"
 ip unnumbered Ethernet1/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 ip tcp header-compression passive
 async mode interactive
 appletalk client-mode
 peer default ip address dhcp
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication ms-chap chap pap
 group-range 97 104
!
interface Group-Async1
 description "Digital Modem Module in Slot 0"
 ip unnumbered Ethernet1/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 ip tcp header-compression passive
 async mode interactive
 appletalk client-mode
 peer default ip address dhcp
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication ms-chap chap pap
 group-range 1 12
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.0.0.1
no ip http server
!
radius-server host 10.0.0.20 auth-port 1645 acct-port 1646
radius-server timeout 20
radius-server key budlight
!
line con 0
 logging synchronous
 login authentication NOAUTH
 transport input none
line 1 12
 autoselect during-login
 autoselect ppp
 modem InOut
 transport input all
line 97 104
 autoselect during-login
 autoselect ppp
 modem InOut
 transport input all
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 password 7 07052245
 login authentication LINE




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3640 Digital Modem Problem [7:39709]

2002-03-27 Thread Firesox

Folks I need some assistance.
Here is my problem.  My customer has 3640 with 6-port mica digital modem and
the 4-port BRI-U module installed.

The IOS running is c3640-d-mz.120-3.T3 routing IP and appletalk.

I am trying to establish a remote dialin access for mobile/remote clients
dialing in using an analog modem.  I am using modem over BRI feature.

Verizon has confirmed the BRI lines are provisioned correctly to accept
analog calls on ISDN lines and I believe they are correct.

The calls come into the BRI modules, but never get forwarded to the digital
modem module within the router.   Every time I dial into the ISDN number
assigned to the one of the BRI lines, I get one ring and fast busy after
that.

I am starting to think there is something wrong with my config.  I have
attached my config.

Plesae let me know if anyone is familiar with this config.
Thanks in advance.
Firesox.





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RE: levels of smartnet [7:39573]

2002-03-27 Thread Jeffrey Reed

Here's a few links for Smartnet:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/smbiz/service/smartnet/
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/serv/mkt/sup/tsssv/opmsup/stapss/smbps_a
i.htm



Jeffrey Reed
Classic Networking, Inc.

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where can i find out what the different levels of smartnet mean

George Gittins
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Re: OSPF NSSA [7:38881]

2002-03-27 Thread Hunt Lee

Steve,

I think on p540 of Jeff Doyle, the reason that it has N1 metric type is
because the RIP routes are redistributed into OSPF with "metric type 1".

Lee


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> According to the example in Doyle's Vol 1. book, using the command "no
> redis" instead of default-metric creates the N1 stuff.  It's on page 540,
> footnote 27.
>
> --
>
> RFC 1149 Compliant.
> Get in my head:
> http://sar.dynu.com
>
>
> ""Chee Kin""  wrote in message
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> > Hi,
> >
> > Has anyone tried this command?
> >
> > area 1 nssa default-information-originate metric-type 1
> >
> > This is the effect on one of the routers in the NSSA.
> >
> > O*N2 0.0.0.0/0 [110/1] via 192.168.2.66, 00:27:33, TokenRing0
> >
> > I was expecting to see O*N1.  Is the above output correct?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > cheekin




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RE: BGP Next-Hop [7:39704]

2002-03-27 Thread Tarek Sabry

Are you using an IGP as well? If not then maybe you should. Also bear in
minf that iBGP has an AD of 200, so it will lose to IGPs, while eBGP has
only 20.

It would help to see your configs though ...

Tarek

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Subject: BGP Next-Hop [7:39704]


Team,

I found an example of BGP "next-hop" Attribute from  Internet Routing Arch
(by Halabi) - Any explanation will be appreciate.

Router A, B & C are all in the same AS, while Router D is in a separate AS.
Not the best diagram :)

Basically:-Router A & Router B are running IBGP
Router B & Router D are running EBGP
Router B is attached to a stub network (192.212.1.0 /24)
Router D is attached to a stub network (128.213.1.0 /24)
Router B is learning route 128.213.1.0 /24 from Router D
Router B is also injecting route 192.212.1.0 /24 into
BGP



   IBGP
EBGP
2.2.2.2
1.1.1.1
  A 
 B   --D  -|128.213.1.0 /24
Serial 0   \  / |

 \  /   |

\ / |
   \/   |
 \   /   
   3.3.3.3.\/ 192.212.1.0 /24
   C


I understand that in BGP table of Router A, it would have 2 entries:-

Destination 192.212.1.0 /24Next-hop: 2.2.2.2
(Next-hop is 2.2.2.2 since for IBGP sessions, the Next-hop will be the IP of
the IBGP neighbor who advertised the route, which is Router B)

Destination 128.213.1.0 /24Next-hop: 1.1.1.1
(Next hop is 1.1.1.1 since for routes coming into an AS via EBGP, the next
hop learned from EBGP is carried unchanged into IBGP - in this case, it's
Router D).


What I am confused it's the Routing Table of Router A,

Destination 192.212.1.0 /24Next-hop  2.2.2.2(Best Route inserted
from BGP table) - cool

Destination 128.213.1.0 /24Next-hop:  1.1.1.1   (Best Route inserted
from BGP table) - cool

Destination 3.3.3.0 /24Next-hop:   Directly Connected via Serial
0 - cool

Destination 2.2.2.0 /24 Next-hop: 3.3.3.3(why??  isn't this
directly connected via IBGP, shouldn't it be directly connected?)

Destination 1.1.1.0 /24Next-hop:  3.3.3.3(why?? shouldn't
this have 2 routes, one via 3.3.3.3, and the other via 2.2.2.2?)


Also, I thought that in such a scenario, one would want to make sure that
every BGP Next-Hop can be reached via either IGP or static routes - However,
Halabi says it's only needed for IBGP Next-hop, is it correct?

Thanks,
Hunt




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RE: question on cisco lab [7:39683]

2002-03-27 Thread Rasman

The next time this happens sh sessions from the cli look for the session
number that corresponds to the host in question. type the session number
only the session should reconnect. you can run disconnect (session number)
to clear the session. Or for ease of use configure ip hosts ip host port
loopback address.

Terry L. Hines
Enterprise Trainer
CompuTouch Training
Microsoft - Infrastructure - Security
Cisco / 3COM / Nortel / Extreme



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Im using a terminal server connected to my routers for my built cisco lab.
however
everytime that i change the ip address or modify the configuration i can do
a reverse telnet to the router? i need to plug in a laptop and modify  the
con  0 line again
is there a reason for this. I thought that once you set  this settings and
if screw up
on the ip;s their always a backdoor?
terminal-server#telnet router1
Trying router1 (172.21.1.1, 2001)...
% Connection refused by remote host






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BGP Next-Hop [7:39704]

2002-03-27 Thread Hunt Lee

Team,

I found an example of BGP "next-hop" Attribute from  Internet Routing Arch
(by Halabi) - Any explanation will be appreciate.

Router A, B & C are all in the same AS, while Router D is in a separate AS.
Not the best diagram :)

Basically:-Router A & Router B are running IBGP
Router B & Router D are running EBGP
Router B is attached to a stub network (192.212.1.0 /24)
Router D is attached to a stub network (128.213.1.0 /24)
Router B is learning route 128.213.1.0 /24 from Router D
Router B is also injecting route 192.212.1.0 /24 into
BGP



   IBGP
EBGP
2.2.2.2
1.1.1.1
  A 
 B   --D  -|128.213.1.0 /24
Serial 0   \  / |

 \  /   |

\ / |
   \/   |
 \   /   
   3.3.3.3.\/ 192.212.1.0 /24
   C


I understand that in BGP table of Router A, it would have 2 entries:-

Destination 192.212.1.0 /24Next-hop: 2.2.2.2
(Next-hop is 2.2.2.2 since for IBGP sessions, the Next-hop will be the IP of
the IBGP neighbor who advertised the route, which is Router B)

Destination 128.213.1.0 /24Next-hop: 1.1.1.1
(Next hop is 1.1.1.1 since for routes coming into an AS via EBGP, the next
hop learned from EBGP is carried unchanged into IBGP - in this case, it's
Router D).


What I am confused it's the Routing Table of Router A,

Destination 192.212.1.0 /24Next-hop  2.2.2.2(Best Route inserted
from BGP table) - cool

Destination 128.213.1.0 /24Next-hop:  1.1.1.1   (Best Route inserted
from BGP table) - cool

Destination 3.3.3.0 /24Next-hop:   Directly Connected via Serial
0 - cool

Destination 2.2.2.0 /24 Next-hop: 3.3.3.3(why??  isn't this
directly connected via IBGP, shouldn't it be directly connected?)

Destination 1.1.1.0 /24Next-hop:  3.3.3.3(why?? shouldn't
this have 2 routes, one via 3.3.3.3, and the other via 2.2.2.2?)


Also, I thought that in such a scenario, one would want to make sure that
every BGP Next-Hop can be reached via either IGP or static routes - However,
Halabi says it's only needed for IBGP Next-hop, is it correct?

Thanks,
Hunt




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RE: Anybody use "Port Security" on Switch in [7:39457]

2002-03-27 Thread Hartnell, George

Yep, I've used it.  There is considerable flexibility in setup.  Some
switches take up to several hundred MAC entries, learned or statically
assigned.  You can also set the thing up to simply alert through SNMP traps,
and/or administratively shut down that port until you do a 'no shut', or
otherwise enable the port.

Typically, it's one MAC address per port for setup, but, sometimes, the
ability to add one or more allowed address can be useful.  Those pesky
additional hubs out there can be secured by simply adding whatever 'allowed'
addresses to the list on the port serving the hub/downstream switch.  Syntax
can be funny, and is in a couple of spots.  GUI is quite intuitive, and
dynamically acquire the MAC address(s).

port security max-mac-count x ;x=number of macs
port security action shutdown | trap ; traps, of course, must be set up

; meanwhile, elsewhere

mac-address-table secure .. FastEthernet x/y vlan z

Document this!  Port security can be tough on workers in the field without
switch knowledge and/or access.

Best, G.
VP OGC

Chaos reigns within.
Reflect, repent and reboot.
Order shall return.
--Haiku wisdom


> 
> So you have to be sure you're not causing a support nightmare 
> for yourself
> when you use this.




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RE: pix and e-mail problem [7:39643]

2002-03-27 Thread Lidiya White

Mailguard on the PIX is "fixup". If you do have fixup protocol for mail,
remove this. 
It is well know issue with Microsoft for the TAC :-)))
I do have article from Microsoft about this, If you would like I can
e-mail it to your later (I have it in bookmarks on another computer)...

-- Lidiya White

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For the past months i been receiving multiple e-mails from the outside
world. Im currently running mail gear from symantec as the primary
e-mail
server which is located behind the firewall (pix 520)this  is map with a
conduit statement to a real ip address. The weird thing is this setup
has
been working before, of course i have upgraded the ios of the pix to
version
6.1 .Tech support told me that their were know issue with the pix and
mail
gear
especially mail guard..what is mailguard? and how can i diable it .. any
pointers are apreciated. I also running a packetshaper box and a caching
server from dell behind the firewall. at the same time the issue began
to
happen? does anyone have a setup familiar to mine?
thanks



57529# show version

Cisco PIX Firewall Version 6.1(1)
Cisco PIX Device Manager Version 1.1(2)

Compiled on Tue 11-Sep-01 07:45 by morlee

57529 up 75 days 2 hours

Hardware:   AL440LX, 128 MB RAM, CPU Pentium II 233 MHz
Flash i28F640J5 @ 0x300, 16MB
BIOS Flash AT29C257 @ 0xfffd8000, 32KB

0: ethernet0: address is 0090.2710.27df, irq 11
1: ethernet1: address is 0090.270d.c12c, irq 10
2: ethernet2: address is 0090.2710.46a2, irq 15

Licensed Features:
Failover:   Enabled
VPN-DES:Enabled
VPN-3DES:   Disabled
Maximum Interfaces: 6
Cut-through Proxy:  Enabled
Guards: Enabled
Websense:   Enabled
Inside Hosts:   Unlimited
Throughput: Unlimited
ISAKMP peers:   Unlimited




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Re: Connecting Cisco to GateD [7:39671]

2002-03-27 Thread Bruce Gilmore

Check out
www.zebra.org

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> I too would like to do the sameso I'm all ears. :)
>
> This is what I found when I was looking into GateD before.  Somebody
correct
> me if I'm misinformed.
> If you want the functionality of BGP, OSPF, or any other routing
protocols,
> you have to pay a fee (read quite expensive for most) for what seems like
a
> Bells-n-Whistles version of GateD.  The free version that comes with Linux
> doesn't have functionality aside from RIP for routing protocols. :(
>
> So, if there IS a way to get BGP, OSPF, IS-IS, and maybe even (E)IGRP
> functionality with GateD or any other Daemon package that will run on
> Solaris (x86 or Sparc) or Linux (any flavour), - FOR FREE of Course, then
> let us know!!
>
> Thanks,
> -Mark
>
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> Subject: Connecting Cisco to GateD [7:39671]
>
>
> I was planning on studying for CCNP routing soon. I only have a 2501 right
> now. I plan on buying a couple more. I have a few spare Dell's and extra
> nic's at work lying around. I would like to load Linux or FreeBSD on those
> and use GateD to make them routers. The point of this is to have extra
> networks to connect to the Cisco's and practice OSPF and BGP for routing.
> This way I can have more routes to dynamically discover and more to
> troubleshoot.
> Has anyone done this before? If so could you lead me to some documentation
> on GateD?  All I found through google were links to man pages.




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RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]

2002-03-27 Thread Wright, Jeremy

i heard a saying one time that the only good things that came out of berkley
was Free BSD and LSD   ;)
no offense to alumni


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I used to work with a guy who loved to call University of Berkely the
"University of Bezerkly."

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""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> No, you Bostonians aren't that bad. I'll be there in June for my hubby's
> MIT reunion. Should be interesting.
>
> I don't know the history of UDP. It sounds like it could have come from
> Berkeley or Santa Cruz or Eugene or some such pinko, commie, anarchist
> place! ;-)
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 03:41 PM 3/27/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
> >""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > The history of TCP/IP is somewhat muddy, as you can imagine.
> > >
> > > At 02:04 PM 3/27/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
> > > >I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote that TCP/IP
was
> > > >written by the Depertment of Defense.
> > >
> > > I agree that you should question that.
> > >
> > > >  I am confident that ARPAnet was
> > > >commissiond by the DoD in the 60's to BBN
> > >
> > > Yes, you could say that. The Information Processing Techniques Office
> > > (IPTO) of ARPA awarded the contract to build the Interface Message
> > > Processors (IMP) for ARPANET to BBN in late 1968. IMPs were the early
> > > routers. BBN built the IMPs with the help (or hindrance if you believe
> >some
> > > reports) of Honeywell. Honeywell developed and manufactured the
hardware.
> > > BBN did the software.
> > >
> > > Descriptions of the "network layer" software that ran on these IMPs
> >doesn't
> > > sound much like IP at all. It was connection-oriented, for one thing,
and
> > > handled error correction. It was very East-Coast anal-retentive stuff.
> ;-)
> >
> >
> >Us Bostonians aren't that bad, are we?
> >
> > >
> > > The software that evolved into TCP/IP was a West-Coast hippy-dippy
geeky
> > > phenomenon.
> >
> >Is UDP a west-coast thing?
> >
> >UCLA, SRI, UC Santa Barbara, USC, and University of Utah
> > > graduate students and researchers worked on it. Originally they had to
> >make
> > > sure their software interoperated with the IMPs of the ARPANET. They
> > > developed a protocol called the Network Control Protocol (NCP) that
> worked
> > > on the end devices that communicated with the IMPs. It was a
host-to-host
> > > protocol that could be considered a predecessor to TCP.
> > >
> > > NCP worked only with ARPANET. By 1973 or so, ARPANET wasn't the only
game
> > > in town though. There was packet radio (which evolved into Ethernet),
> > > SATNET, and others. A more general-purpose protocol was needed. Vint
Cerf
> > > who was with UCLA at the time and Bob Kahn, who had been at BBN but
now
> > > worked for ARPA directly, worked on a new protocol called Transmission
> > > Control Protocol (TCP) that was general-purpose. They made the
assumption
> > > that the underlying network was unreliable. The new protocol shifted
the
> > > job of reliability from the network to the destination hosts.
> > >
> > > Originally TCP handled the routing of packets also. TCP had jobs that
we
> > > would today assign to the network and transport layers.
> > >
> > > And finally, in 1978, we come to the birth of the Internet Protocol
(IP).
> > > In 1978, the job of routing packets was broken away from TCP. TCP was
> >given
> > > the task of breaking messages into packets, reassembling them at the
> other
> > > end, detecting errors, resending anything lost, and putting packets in
> the
> > > right order. IP was simply responsible for forwarding individual
packets.
> > > The specifications for how this should work were written by Cerf at
UCLA,
> > > and Postel and Cohen from the University of Southern California's
> > > Information Sciences Institute (ISI).
> > >
> > > In the early 1980s, the ARPANET got really congested and the National
> > > Science Foundation created its own network for the academic computer
> > > science community. It used TCP/IP and is sometimes considered the real
> > > forerunner of "the Internet," although it probably could never have
> > > happened without the work that went into the ARPANET. ARPANET
converted
> to
> > > TCP/IP in 1983. It also divided into MILNET and ARPANET. It had
> > > connectivity with all the other networks by then. Later it got
> > > decommissioned. By 1989, it was gone, but its legacy lived on. May it
> RIP.
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > Here's a recommendation for a terrific book about the history of the
> > > Internet:
> > >
> > > "Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Origins of the Internet" by Katie
Hafner
> > > and Matthew Lyon.
> >
> >I'll definitely read that book, as I love that kind of stuff.
> >
> > >
> > > 

Re: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]

2002-03-27 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I used to work with a guy who loved to call University of Berkely the
"University of Bezerkly."

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""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> No, you Bostonians aren't that bad. I'll be there in June for my hubby's
> MIT reunion. Should be interesting.
>
> I don't know the history of UDP. It sounds like it could have come from
> Berkeley or Santa Cruz or Eugene or some such pinko, commie, anarchist
> place! ;-)
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 03:41 PM 3/27/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
> >""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > The history of TCP/IP is somewhat muddy, as you can imagine.
> > >
> > > At 02:04 PM 3/27/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
> > > >I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote that TCP/IP
was
> > > >written by the Depertment of Defense.
> > >
> > > I agree that you should question that.
> > >
> > > >  I am confident that ARPAnet was
> > > >commissiond by the DoD in the 60's to BBN
> > >
> > > Yes, you could say that. The Information Processing Techniques Office
> > > (IPTO) of ARPA awarded the contract to build the Interface Message
> > > Processors (IMP) for ARPANET to BBN in late 1968. IMPs were the early
> > > routers. BBN built the IMPs with the help (or hindrance if you believe
> >some
> > > reports) of Honeywell. Honeywell developed and manufactured the
hardware.
> > > BBN did the software.
> > >
> > > Descriptions of the "network layer" software that ran on these IMPs
> >doesn't
> > > sound much like IP at all. It was connection-oriented, for one thing,
and
> > > handled error correction. It was very East-Coast anal-retentive stuff.
> ;-)
> >
> >
> >Us Bostonians aren't that bad, are we?
> >
> > >
> > > The software that evolved into TCP/IP was a West-Coast hippy-dippy
geeky
> > > phenomenon.
> >
> >Is UDP a west-coast thing?
> >
> >UCLA, SRI, UC Santa Barbara, USC, and University of Utah
> > > graduate students and researchers worked on it. Originally they had to
> >make
> > > sure their software interoperated with the IMPs of the ARPANET. They
> > > developed a protocol called the Network Control Protocol (NCP) that
> worked
> > > on the end devices that communicated with the IMPs. It was a
host-to-host
> > > protocol that could be considered a predecessor to TCP.
> > >
> > > NCP worked only with ARPANET. By 1973 or so, ARPANET wasn't the only
game
> > > in town though. There was packet radio (which evolved into Ethernet),
> > > SATNET, and others. A more general-purpose protocol was needed. Vint
Cerf
> > > who was with UCLA at the time and Bob Kahn, who had been at BBN but
now
> > > worked for ARPA directly, worked on a new protocol called Transmission
> > > Control Protocol (TCP) that was general-purpose. They made the
assumption
> > > that the underlying network was unreliable. The new protocol shifted
the
> > > job of reliability from the network to the destination hosts.
> > >
> > > Originally TCP handled the routing of packets also. TCP had jobs that
we
> > > would today assign to the network and transport layers.
> > >
> > > And finally, in 1978, we come to the birth of the Internet Protocol
(IP).
> > > In 1978, the job of routing packets was broken away from TCP. TCP was
> >given
> > > the task of breaking messages into packets, reassembling them at the
> other
> > > end, detecting errors, resending anything lost, and putting packets in
> the
> > > right order. IP was simply responsible for forwarding individual
packets.
> > > The specifications for how this should work were written by Cerf at
UCLA,
> > > and Postel and Cohen from the University of Southern California's
> > > Information Sciences Institute (ISI).
> > >
> > > In the early 1980s, the ARPANET got really congested and the National
> > > Science Foundation created its own network for the academic computer
> > > science community. It used TCP/IP and is sometimes considered the real
> > > forerunner of "the Internet," although it probably could never have
> > > happened without the work that went into the ARPANET. ARPANET
converted
> to
> > > TCP/IP in 1983. It also divided into MILNET and ARPANET. It had
> > > connectivity with all the other networks by then. Later it got
> > > decommissioned. By 1989, it was gone, but its legacy lived on. May it
> RIP.
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > Here's a recommendation for a terrific book about the history of the
> > > Internet:
> > >
> > > "Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Origins of the Internet" by Katie
Hafner
> > > and Matthew Lyon.
> >
> >I'll definitely read that book, as I love that kind of stuff.
> >
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > >, and maybe TCP/IP was derived from
> > > >these early protocls, but to say the the DoD, or BBN or anyone other
> than
> > > >the Internet community wrote TCP and IP would be incorrect, right?  I
> >seem
> > > >to remember that IP was used in ArpaNet, but not TCP.  I thought TCP
wa

RE: Connecting Cisco to GateD [7:39671]

2002-03-27 Thread Mark Odette II

I too would like to do the sameso I'm all ears. :)

This is what I found when I was looking into GateD before.  Somebody correct
me if I'm misinformed.
If you want the functionality of BGP, OSPF, or any other routing protocols,
you have to pay a fee (read quite expensive for most) for what seems like a
Bells-n-Whistles version of GateD.  The free version that comes with Linux
doesn't have functionality aside from RIP for routing protocols. :(

So, if there IS a way to get BGP, OSPF, IS-IS, and maybe even (E)IGRP
functionality with GateD or any other Daemon package that will run on
Solaris (x86 or Sparc) or Linux (any flavour), - FOR FREE of Course, then
let us know!!

Thanks,
-Mark

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Subject: Connecting Cisco to GateD [7:39671]


I was planning on studying for CCNP routing soon. I only have a 2501 right
now. I plan on buying a couple more. I have a few spare Dell's and extra
nic's at work lying around. I would like to load Linux or FreeBSD on those
and use GateD to make them routers. The point of this is to have extra
networks to connect to the Cisco's and practice OSPF and BGP for routing.
This way I can have more routes to dynamically discover and more to
troubleshoot.
Has anyone done this before? If so could you lead me to some documentation
on GateD?  All I found through google were links to man pages.




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RE: Rack [7:38796]

2002-03-27 Thread Mark Odette II

Also...
Just a little more to add to the Music Rack scenario:

I have found that the RackMount Ears that come with the PIX 515 & Cisco 2600
do NOT line up with the alleged 19" scew points.  The 2500s' ears are a
perfect fit though.  The problem with the other rack ears is that the screw
slots are vertical, and therefore don't extend wide enough to hit both rack
screw holes.  The rack ears on the 2500 have horizontal screw slots, and
therefore give variance from side to side of at least an eighth-of-an-inch.
Doesn't that suck. :(

Has anyone ever tried 2500 series rack ears/kits on a 2600??  If so, and
they work, then the solution is at hand and as everyone else has
mentioned, it depends on how much gear you plan to invest in to stick in the
music rack.

I was fortunate, and had my music rack given to me by a previous employer...
I took it with the thought that even though I didn't have a use for it then,
surely, I'd come up with one for it in the future:)  That was 4 years ago,
and in the last year, I started putting my Cisco gear in it. :)

Only drawback is that it only has 30 inches vertically of usable space
but who am I to complain... it got it for free! :)

-Mark

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Subject: RE: Rack [7:38796]


You have a couple options, the music racks already mentioned. I'll just add
a little on that subject.

Music racks. DJ equipment is also 19" wide, same as computer equipment.
I looked at the Music racks. Some were at an angle, some were just odd
looking. And there wasn't much cost savings. I found a vendor selling very
cheap music racks on ebay for about $30. I considered them to be very
limited in space, only a couple U of space. I wouldn't have been able to
store all my current toys in a single music rack. I now have 5 2500's, 1
catalyst 5002, an isdn simulator box, a server, and 2 rack mountable
hubs/MAUs. So your choice depends on how much equipment you can forsee
yourself buying.

Telecom Equipment Racks. They are 19" wide, and come in many sizes. A local
vendor, Rexel Southern, had several 7' Chatsworth racks in stock. They
bought in bulk, and I was able to get a great deal without paying shipping.
My 7' black rack cost me about $115. I would look around your city, and see
if you can find a telecom vendor if you want to look for a telecom rack. The
4' racks were about twice the cost, they could sell the 7' cheaper because
more people bought them.

-Jason
www.CCIEwannabe.com - Affordable remote Cisco lab access




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Test [7:39667]

2002-03-27 Thread

Just testing to make sure this is still working.




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Re: Listserve problems- again [7:39359]

2002-03-27 Thread Chuck

yesterday there were list problems much of the day. I don't know the
details. I do know that the moderator's queue was packed with a lot of
trapped messages as well. As both moderators were occupied elsewhere, in
addition to server problems, a number of messages did not get through until
just now, including both your inquiries.

just a thought for everyone - Paul's e-mail addresses may be easily found
through list messages - when there are suspected list problems you might
send an e-mail direct, rather than to the list.

Chuck



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> servers.
> I have unsubscribed and re-subscribed with 2 different email addresses
with
> no success.
> I do receive the subscribe and unsubscribe email messages but nothing
else.
>
> Perhaps the list moderator or Paul has 2 minutes to offer any ideas?
>
> Thank you




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Re: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]

2002-03-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

No, you Bostonians aren't that bad. I'll be there in June for my hubby's 
MIT reunion. Should be interesting.

I don't know the history of UDP. It sounds like it could have come from 
Berkeley or Santa Cruz or Eugene or some such pinko, commie, anarchist 
place! ;-)

Priscilla

At 03:41 PM 3/27/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
>""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > The history of TCP/IP is somewhat muddy, as you can imagine.
> >
> > At 02:04 PM 3/27/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
> > >I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote that TCP/IP was
> > >written by the Depertment of Defense.
> >
> > I agree that you should question that.
> >
> > >  I am confident that ARPAnet was
> > >commissiond by the DoD in the 60's to BBN
> >
> > Yes, you could say that. The Information Processing Techniques Office
> > (IPTO) of ARPA awarded the contract to build the Interface Message
> > Processors (IMP) for ARPANET to BBN in late 1968. IMPs were the early
> > routers. BBN built the IMPs with the help (or hindrance if you believe
>some
> > reports) of Honeywell. Honeywell developed and manufactured the hardware.
> > BBN did the software.
> >
> > Descriptions of the "network layer" software that ran on these IMPs
>doesn't
> > sound much like IP at all. It was connection-oriented, for one thing, and
> > handled error correction. It was very East-Coast anal-retentive stuff.
;-)
>
>
>Us Bostonians aren't that bad, are we?
>
> >
> > The software that evolved into TCP/IP was a West-Coast hippy-dippy geeky
> > phenomenon.
>
>Is UDP a west-coast thing?
>
>UCLA, SRI, UC Santa Barbara, USC, and University of Utah
> > graduate students and researchers worked on it. Originally they had to
>make
> > sure their software interoperated with the IMPs of the ARPANET. They
> > developed a protocol called the Network Control Protocol (NCP) that
worked
> > on the end devices that communicated with the IMPs. It was a host-to-host
> > protocol that could be considered a predecessor to TCP.
> >
> > NCP worked only with ARPANET. By 1973 or so, ARPANET wasn't the only game
> > in town though. There was packet radio (which evolved into Ethernet),
> > SATNET, and others. A more general-purpose protocol was needed. Vint Cerf
> > who was with UCLA at the time and Bob Kahn, who had been at BBN but now
> > worked for ARPA directly, worked on a new protocol called Transmission
> > Control Protocol (TCP) that was general-purpose. They made the assumption
> > that the underlying network was unreliable. The new protocol shifted the
> > job of reliability from the network to the destination hosts.
> >
> > Originally TCP handled the routing of packets also. TCP had jobs that we
> > would today assign to the network and transport layers.
> >
> > And finally, in 1978, we come to the birth of the Internet Protocol (IP).
> > In 1978, the job of routing packets was broken away from TCP. TCP was
>given
> > the task of breaking messages into packets, reassembling them at the
other
> > end, detecting errors, resending anything lost, and putting packets in
the
> > right order. IP was simply responsible for forwarding individual packets.
> > The specifications for how this should work were written by Cerf at UCLA,
> > and Postel and Cohen from the University of Southern California's
> > Information Sciences Institute (ISI).
> >
> > In the early 1980s, the ARPANET got really congested and the National
> > Science Foundation created its own network for the academic computer
> > science community. It used TCP/IP and is sometimes considered the real
> > forerunner of "the Internet," although it probably could never have
> > happened without the work that went into the ARPANET. ARPANET converted
to
> > TCP/IP in 1983. It also divided into MILNET and ARPANET. It had
> > connectivity with all the other networks by then. Later it got
> > decommissioned. By 1989, it was gone, but its legacy lived on. May it
RIP.
> > ;-)
> >
> > Here's a recommendation for a terrific book about the history of the
> > Internet:
> >
> > "Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Origins of the Internet" by Katie Hafner
> > and Matthew Lyon.
>
>I'll definitely read that book, as I love that kind of stuff.
>
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > >, and maybe TCP/IP was derived from
> > >these early protocls, but to say the the DoD, or BBN or anyone other
than
> > >the Internet community wrote TCP and IP would be incorrect, right?  I
>seem
> > >to remember that IP was used in ArpaNet, but not TCP.  I thought TCP was
> > >written in various universities.  I could even look up the couple (who
>used
> > >to work at Cisco) who wrote it.
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > >Get in my head:
> > >http://sar.dynu.com
> > 
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com


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http://www.priscilla.com




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RE: question on cisco lab [7:39683]

2002-03-27 Thread Angel Leiva

It seems that you are leaving the reverse telnet session "open" when you
exit a router console port via the Terminal Server.
Make a habit of using the command "disconnect" (short is "disc") everytime
you exit a reverse telnet session. Btw, do you use CTRL + SHIFT + 6 and X to
exit a reverse telnet session?

Or else, use the command "clear line xx" at least three times to reset the
connection, where xx is the line number assigned to the port you're trying
to access on the TS ("show line" will list the line numbers).

Hth,

Angel

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Im using a terminal server connected to my routers for my built cisco lab.
however
everytime that i change the ip address or modify the configuration i can do
a reverse telnet to the router? i need to plug in a laptop and modify  the
con  0 line again
is there a reason for this. I thought that once you set  this settings and
if screw up
on the ip;s their always a backdoor?
terminal-server#telnet router1
Trying router1 (172.21.1.1, 2001)...
% Connection refused by remote host






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Phone (956)9696557




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Re: How to get running-config of cisco routers through SNMP [7:39695]

2002-03-27 Thread Gaz

Have a play with these if you like:





snmpset -v1 192.168.80.254 password .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.14.11
integer 6



rem Initialise a new copy operation

snmpset -v1 192.168.80.254 password .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.14.11
integer 5



rem Set the ccCopySource FileType to "4" (running-config) snmpset -v1
192.168.80.254 password .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.3.11 integer 4



rem Set the ccCopyDest FileType to "1" (network file)

snmpset -v1 192.168.80.254 password .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.4.11 integer
1



rem Set the ccCopyServerAddress to TFTP Server

snmpset -v1 192.168.80.254 password .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.5.11 a
192.168.80.127



rem Set the ccCopyFileName to whatever

snmpset -v1 192.168.80.254 password .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.6.11 s
config.txt



rem Start the process.

snmpset -v1 192.168.80.254 password .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.14.11
integer 1



rem Now return some states

snmpget -v1 192.168.80.254 password .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.10.11
snmpget -v1 192.168.80.254 password .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.10.11
snmpget -v1 192.168.80.254 password .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.13.11



rem Destroy the process.

snmpset -v1 192.168.80.254 password .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.96.1.1.1.1.14.11
integer 6




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>
>
> Any one can tell me whether I can  get running-config of cisco routers
> through SNMP request!#
> And if we can ,what is the oid for this purpose?
> Thanks .
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RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]

2002-03-27 Thread Rasman

Start with RFC 01 ietf org site.

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I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote that TCP/IP was
written by the Depertment of Defense.  I am confident that ARPAnet was
commissiond by the DoD in the 60's to BBN, and maybe TCP/IP was derived from
these early protocls, but to say the the DoD, or BBN or anyone other than
the Internet community wrote TCP and IP would be incorrect, right?  I seem
to remember that IP was used in ArpaNet, but not TCP.  I thought TCP was
written in various universities.  I could even look up the couple (who used
to work at Cisco) who wrote it.

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RE: VLAN protocol b/w Cisco and non-Cisco switches? [7:39673]

2002-03-27 Thread Jeffrey Reed

GVRP is a "standards" way of adding/pruning VLANs between switches. I've
used it in an all Cabletron environment, but never on a Cisco switch.

Jeffrey Reed
Classic Networking, Inc.

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802.1q should  be used  between cisco amd noncisco devices.

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> Hello,What is the VLAN protocol that can runs between a Cisco and a
> non-Cisco switch? I understand that VTP is the protocol if only running
> Cisco switches. Is it still IEEE 802.1q that propagates VLAN info.
> between these non-Cisco switches?  If so, then can IEEE 802.1q be
> considered a frame-tagging protocol as well as a vlan protocol? I
> understand that Cisco has ISL and VTP.Thank you.
>
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Cisco router 827 does not pick up automatically [7:39691]

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn Xu

I have a Cisco router 827 running fine, but one problem is that whenever the 
ISP is down or does something, the Internet connection is down. The 827 
doesn't pick up the connection automatically when the ISP is back up, I have 
to manually reboot this router. After I reboot, then the connection is ok.

How can we make the Router automatically pick up the connection ?

Thanks

Shawn





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RE: Where do I start? [7:39553]

2002-03-27 Thread Lomker, Michael

> I'll need hands on experience to tackle CCNP. I really 
> thought I could just read some books and take it on

That depends upon a lot of factors, but you know your situation the best.  I
went from no Cisco knowledge through the IE written in six months.  I did
have three routers to experiment with and that was adequate up until that
point.

The book that I read right after the CCNA was Caslow's Bridges, Routers, and
Switches for CCIE's.  He writes very clearly and you'll find it easier to
read the Cisco Press books after going through it.




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RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-03-27 Thread Andy Barkl

The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. 
I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID
exam.


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Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam
Certification
Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to
get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD.
I
intend to use BOSON as well.

Thanks,
Scott
CCNP, CCDA

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Re: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]

2002-03-27 Thread Steven A. Ridder

""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> The history of TCP/IP is somewhat muddy, as you can imagine.
>
> At 02:04 PM 3/27/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
> >I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote that TCP/IP was
> >written by the Depertment of Defense.
>
> I agree that you should question that.
>
> >  I am confident that ARPAnet was
> >commissiond by the DoD in the 60's to BBN
>
> Yes, you could say that. The Information Processing Techniques Office
> (IPTO) of ARPA awarded the contract to build the Interface Message
> Processors (IMP) for ARPANET to BBN in late 1968. IMPs were the early
> routers. BBN built the IMPs with the help (or hindrance if you believe
some
> reports) of Honeywell. Honeywell developed and manufactured the hardware.
> BBN did the software.
>
> Descriptions of the "network layer" software that ran on these IMPs
doesn't
> sound much like IP at all. It was connection-oriented, for one thing, and
> handled error correction. It was very East-Coast anal-retentive stuff. ;-)


Us Bostonians aren't that bad, are we?

>
> The software that evolved into TCP/IP was a West-Coast hippy-dippy geeky
> phenomenon.

Is UDP a west-coast thing?

UCLA, SRI, UC Santa Barbara, USC, and University of Utah
> graduate students and researchers worked on it. Originally they had to
make
> sure their software interoperated with the IMPs of the ARPANET. They
> developed a protocol called the Network Control Protocol (NCP) that worked
> on the end devices that communicated with the IMPs. It was a host-to-host
> protocol that could be considered a predecessor to TCP.
>
> NCP worked only with ARPANET. By 1973 or so, ARPANET wasn't the only game
> in town though. There was packet radio (which evolved into Ethernet),
> SATNET, and others. A more general-purpose protocol was needed. Vint Cerf
> who was with UCLA at the time and Bob Kahn, who had been at BBN but now
> worked for ARPA directly, worked on a new protocol called Transmission
> Control Protocol (TCP) that was general-purpose. They made the assumption
> that the underlying network was unreliable. The new protocol shifted the
> job of reliability from the network to the destination hosts.
>
> Originally TCP handled the routing of packets also. TCP had jobs that we
> would today assign to the network and transport layers.
>
> And finally, in 1978, we come to the birth of the Internet Protocol (IP).
> In 1978, the job of routing packets was broken away from TCP. TCP was
given
> the task of breaking messages into packets, reassembling them at the other
> end, detecting errors, resending anything lost, and putting packets in the
> right order. IP was simply responsible for forwarding individual packets.
> The specifications for how this should work were written by Cerf at UCLA,
> and Postel and Cohen from the University of Southern California's
> Information Sciences Institute (ISI).
>
> In the early 1980s, the ARPANET got really congested and the National
> Science Foundation created its own network for the academic computer
> science community. It used TCP/IP and is sometimes considered the real
> forerunner of "the Internet," although it probably could never have
> happened without the work that went into the ARPANET. ARPANET converted to
> TCP/IP in 1983. It also divided into MILNET and ARPANET. It had
> connectivity with all the other networks by then. Later it got
> decommissioned. By 1989, it was gone, but its legacy lived on. May it RIP.
> ;-)
>
> Here's a recommendation for a terrific book about the history of the
> Internet:
>
> "Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Origins of the Internet" by Katie Hafner
> and Matthew Lyon.

I'll definitely read that book, as I love that kind of stuff.

>
> Priscilla
>
> >, and maybe TCP/IP was derived from
> >these early protocls, but to say the the DoD, or BBN or anyone other than
> >the Internet community wrote TCP and IP would be incorrect, right?  I
seem
> >to remember that IP was used in ArpaNet, but not TCP.  I thought TCP was
> >written in various universities.  I could even look up the couple (who
used
> >to work at Cisco) who wrote it.
> >
> >--
> >
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> >Get in my head:
> >http://sar.dynu.com
> 
>
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question on cisco lab [7:39683]

2002-03-27 Thread george gittins

Im using a terminal server connected to my routers for my built cisco lab.
however
everytime that i change the ip address or modify the configuration i can do
a reverse telnet to the router? i need to plug in a laptop and modify  the
con  0 line again
is there a reason for this. I thought that once you set  this settings and
if screw up
on the ip;s their always a backdoor?
terminal-server#telnet router1
Trying router1 (172.21.1.1, 2001)...
% Connection refused by remote host






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RE: VLAN protocol b/w Cisco and non-Cisco switches? [7:39673]

2002-03-27 Thread Michael Williams

You would want to use 802.1q.  But I think you would need to manually make
sure that each switch had the appropriate VLANs on them (i.e. manually do
the job of VTP).

Mike W.


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Re: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]

2002-03-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

The history of TCP/IP is somewhat muddy, as you can imagine.

At 02:04 PM 3/27/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
>I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote that TCP/IP was
>written by the Depertment of Defense.

I agree that you should question that.

>  I am confident that ARPAnet was
>commissiond by the DoD in the 60's to BBN

Yes, you could say that. The Information Processing Techniques Office 
(IPTO) of ARPA awarded the contract to build the Interface Message 
Processors (IMP) for ARPANET to BBN in late 1968. IMPs were the early 
routers. BBN built the IMPs with the help (or hindrance if you believe some 
reports) of Honeywell. Honeywell developed and manufactured the hardware. 
BBN did the software.

Descriptions of the "network layer" software that ran on these IMPs doesn't 
sound much like IP at all. It was connection-oriented, for one thing, and 
handled error correction. It was very East-Coast anal-retentive stuff. ;-)

The software that evolved into TCP/IP was a West-Coast hippy-dippy geeky 
phenomenon. UCLA, SRI, UC Santa Barbara, USC, and University of Utah 
graduate students and researchers worked on it. Originally they had to make 
sure their software interoperated with the IMPs of the ARPANET. They 
developed a protocol called the Network Control Protocol (NCP) that worked 
on the end devices that communicated with the IMPs. It was a host-to-host 
protocol that could be considered a predecessor to TCP.

NCP worked only with ARPANET. By 1973 or so, ARPANET wasn't the only game 
in town though. There was packet radio (which evolved into Ethernet), 
SATNET, and others. A more general-purpose protocol was needed. Vint Cerf 
who was with UCLA at the time and Bob Kahn, who had been at BBN but now 
worked for ARPA directly, worked on a new protocol called Transmission 
Control Protocol (TCP) that was general-purpose. They made the assumption 
that the underlying network was unreliable. The new protocol shifted the 
job of reliability from the network to the destination hosts.

Originally TCP handled the routing of packets also. TCP had jobs that we 
would today assign to the network and transport layers.

And finally, in 1978, we come to the birth of the Internet Protocol (IP). 
In 1978, the job of routing packets was broken away from TCP. TCP was given 
the task of breaking messages into packets, reassembling them at the other 
end, detecting errors, resending anything lost, and putting packets in the 
right order. IP was simply responsible for forwarding individual packets. 
The specifications for how this should work were written by Cerf at UCLA, 
and Postel and Cohen from the University of Southern California's 
Information Sciences Institute (ISI).

In the early 1980s, the ARPANET got really congested and the National 
Science Foundation created its own network for the academic computer 
science community. It used TCP/IP and is sometimes considered the real 
forerunner of "the Internet," although it probably could never have 
happened without the work that went into the ARPANET. ARPANET converted to 
TCP/IP in 1983. It also divided into MILNET and ARPANET. It had 
connectivity with all the other networks by then. Later it got 
decommissioned. By 1989, it was gone, but its legacy lived on. May it RIP.
;-)

Here's a recommendation for a terrific book about the history of the
Internet:

"Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Origins of the Internet" by Katie Hafner 
and Matthew Lyon.

Priscilla

>, and maybe TCP/IP was derived from
>these early protocls, but to say the the DoD, or BBN or anyone other than
>the Internet community wrote TCP and IP would be incorrect, right?  I seem
>to remember that IP was used in ArpaNet, but not TCP.  I thought TCP was
>written in various universities.  I could even look up the couple (who used
>to work at Cisco) who wrote it.
>
>--
>
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>Get in my head:
>http://sar.dynu.com


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Re: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]

2002-03-27 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I know I shouldn't say "written", but I seem to remember a Wired atricle
mentioning Judy Estrin and Bill Carrico, working under Vint Cerf, as the
authors of TCP's predacessor in 1975.  Anyone know?

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> It's kinda fuzzy.  I myself just got through doing a tech review of a book
> covering this topic as well as have written my own "materials" for
training,
> etc covering this topic.  IMHO, DoD is credited with "creating the
internet"
> even though at the time it wasn't called the internet and didn't use the
> same protocols we do now.  Although the DoD started the whole mess, from
> what I've read DoD commisioned ARPANET to research this.  I'm sure that
> peoples are various universities and colleges were in on the actual
> deveopment evidenced by the fact that in 1971 there were 15 nodes (with a
> total of 23 hosts), namely UCLA, SRI, UCSB, U of Utah, BBN, MIT, RAND,
SDC,
> Harvard, Lincoln Lab, Stanford, UIU(C), CWRU, CMU, and NASA/Ames.  Note
most
> of those listed are colleges/universities. I've read some about BBN,
however
> it seems to me their main role was to supply the first "computers"
> (Honeywell 516 mini computers with 12K of memory) that acted as
Information
> Message Processors (IMPs) (routers?).
>
> However, I would humbly suggest that Howard B. or Priscilla O. throw their
2
> cents in here.
>
> Also, since your doing a technical edit, be careful of the words you
choose
> as well.  For example you use the word "written" over and over above, but
I
> don't think the conversation is really about "which programmers actually
> wrote the code" it's more about "who either spearheaded or caused the
> evolution of the *standards* we call TCP/IP" in which case I don't think
> crediting the DoD is incorrect.
>
> My 2 cents =)
> Mike W.




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RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]

2002-03-27 Thread William Gragido

The DoD adopted TCP/IP as its native protocol for communications in 1983.
DARPA lead the charge for a communications system that would be resilient to
Global Thermal Nuclear attacks (therein allowing for continued,
uninterrupted comm), and would allow for common connectivity of multi-vendor
solutions.  This of course did yield 'ARPA NET' which, by a decision of the
DCA (Defense Communications Agency), in 1983 was split in two yielding a
smaller version of 'ARPA NET' and 'MILNET'.  The evolution of the modern
internet can followed done the line from 'ARPA NET' and as we all know by
virtue of adding new networks to the mix, 'ARPA NET' was de-regulated in
1991 ushering the age of the modern internet.

Hope that helps,

Will Gragido

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It's kinda fuzzy.  I myself just got through doing a tech review of a book
covering this topic as well as have written my own "materials" for training,
etc covering this topic.  IMHO, DoD is credited with "creating the internet"
even though at the time it wasn't called the internet and didn't use the
same protocols we do now.  Although the DoD started the whole mess, from
what I've read DoD commisioned ARPANET to research this.  I'm sure that
peoples are various universities and colleges were in on the actual
deveopment evidenced by the fact that in 1971 there were 15 nodes (with a
total of 23 hosts), namely UCLA, SRI, UCSB, U of Utah, BBN, MIT, RAND, SDC,
Harvard, Lincoln Lab, Stanford, UIU(C), CWRU, CMU, and NASA/Ames.  Note most
of those listed are colleges/universities. I've read some about BBN, however
it seems to me their main role was to supply the first "computers"
(Honeywell 516 mini computers with 12K of memory) that acted as Information
Message Processors (IMPs) (routers?).

However, I would humbly suggest that Howard B. or Priscilla O. throw their 2
cents in here.

Also, since your doing a technical edit, be careful of the words you choose
as well.  For example you use the word "written" over and over above, but I
don't think the conversation is really about "which programmers actually
wrote the code" it's more about "who either spearheaded or caused the
evolution of the *standards* we call TCP/IP" in which case I don't think
crediting the DoD is incorrect.

My 2 cents =)
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Re: Juniper [7:39666]

2002-03-27 Thread thinkworker

What do u mean by "set history"?

In fact CLI environment is actually have its history. And accoring the
reference it should be in the CLI environmnet setting while in fact I
found nothing about the setting. 

Try use "show cli history" to get the history.
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:21:58 -0500
"Stanzin Takpa"  wrote:

> Is anybody know how to set history commands in Junper box ?
> 
> Stanzin




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RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]

2002-03-27 Thread Kane, Christopher A.

You may want to sign up for the IETF mailing list and post such a question
to Vint Cerf. He is credited as a co-founder of TCP/IP.

-chris

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I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote that TCP/IP was
written by the Depertment of Defense.  I am confident that ARPAnet was
commissiond by the DoD in the 60's to BBN, and maybe TCP/IP was derived from
these early protocls, but to say the the DoD, or BBN or anyone other than
the Internet community wrote TCP and IP would be incorrect, right?  I seem
to remember that IP was used in ArpaNet, but not TCP.  I thought TCP was
written in various universities.  I could even look up the couple (who used
to work at Cisco) who wrote it.

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RE: Where do I start? [7:39553]

2002-03-27 Thread Brian Zeitz

They say Abtronic doesn't work so

I did get a look at these, someone at work had them. They are just some
randomly thrown together questions and answers. And some stuff
copy-n-pasted off the net (cramsession). Some have questions have
explanations, some don't.

If you think someone writing 100 questions and answers and pasting it in
a word document is worth the 29$ or whatever they charge for that that
junk then go for it.

There is also a sheet with every command you can do on a cisco router, I
don't see how that is usefull, unless you have a very good memory.

And a Memorization list, with commonly known things on it, like what
access list numbers go with what.

And a cramsession which you can just go to www.cramsession.com and get
it for free.

Just look on the internet, there are thousands of sites with free
questions, I think one of them is like cert21.com. Don't look at
cramsession for questions, because their questions are from like 1970s.
They need some new writers for there questions of the day.

My suggestion is, unless your really bored with your money, buy some
books with it, they are a much better value.




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Re: VLAN protocol b/w Cisco and non-Cisco switches? [7:39673]

2002-03-27 Thread sam sneed

802.1q should  be used  between cisco amd noncisco devices.

""Cisco Nuts""  wrote in message
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> Hello,What is the VLAN protocol that can runs between a Cisco and a
> non-Cisco switch? I understand that VTP is the protocol if only running
> Cisco switches. Is it still IEEE 802.1q that propagates VLAN info.
> between these non-Cisco switches?  If so, then can IEEE 802.1q be
> considered a frame-tagging protocol as well as a vlan protocol? I
> understand that Cisco has ISL and VTP.Thank you.
>
> 
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VLAN protocol b/w Cisco and non-Cisco switches? [7:39673]

2002-03-27 Thread Cisco Nuts

Hello,What is the VLAN protocol that can runs between a Cisco and a
non-Cisco switch? I understand that VTP is the protocol if only running
Cisco switches. Is it still IEEE 802.1q that propagates VLAN info.
between these non-Cisco switches?  If so, then can IEEE 802.1q be
considered a frame-tagging protocol as well as a vlan protocol? I
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RE: Anybody use "Port Security" on Switch in [7:39457]

2002-03-27 Thread Michael Williams

You can use port security to restrict any port down to as few as 1 MAC
address.

If you have port security on, and someone unplugs their PC (whose MAC
address has been "learned" as secure by the switch) and connects a hub, as
soon as ANY frame from another MAC is detected, the port will shut down.

So you have to be sure you're not causing a support nightmare for yourself
when you use this.

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Connecting Cisco to GateD [7:39671]

2002-03-27 Thread sam sneed

I was planning on studying for CCNP routing soon. I only have a 2501 right
now. I plan on buying a couple more. I have a few spare Dell's and extra
nic's at work lying around. I would like to load Linux or FreeBSD on those
and use GateD to make them routers. The point of this is to have extra
networks to connect to the Cisco's and practice OSPF and BGP for routing.
This way I can have more routes to dynamically discover and more to
troubleshoot.
Has anyone done this before? If so could you lead me to some documentation
on GateD?  All I found through google were links to man pages.




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RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]

2002-03-27 Thread Michael Williams

It's kinda fuzzy.  I myself just got through doing a tech review of a book
covering this topic as well as have written my own "materials" for training,
etc covering this topic.  IMHO, DoD is credited with "creating the internet"
even though at the time it wasn't called the internet and didn't use the
same protocols we do now.  Although the DoD started the whole mess, from
what I've read DoD commisioned ARPANET to research this.  I'm sure that
peoples are various universities and colleges were in on the actual
deveopment evidenced by the fact that in 1971 there were 15 nodes (with a
total of 23 hosts), namely UCLA, SRI, UCSB, U of Utah, BBN, MIT, RAND, SDC,
Harvard, Lincoln Lab, Stanford, UIU(C), CWRU, CMU, and NASA/Ames.  Note most
of those listed are colleges/universities. I've read some about BBN, however
it seems to me their main role was to supply the first "computers"
(Honeywell 516 mini computers with 12K of memory) that acted as Information
Message Processors (IMPs) (routers?).

However, I would humbly suggest that Howard B. or Priscilla O. throw their 2
cents in here.

Also, since your doing a technical edit, be careful of the words you choose
as well.  For example you use the word "written" over and over above, but I
don't think the conversation is really about "which programmers actually
wrote the code" it's more about "who either spearheaded or caused the
evolution of the *standards* we call TCP/IP" in which case I don't think
crediting the DoD is incorrect.

My 2 cents =)
Mike W.


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RE: Rack [7:38796]

2002-03-27 Thread Barbee Jason

You have a couple options, the music racks already mentioned. I'll just add
a little on that subject.
 
Music racks. DJ equipment is also 19" wide, same as computer equipment.
I looked at the Music racks. Some were at an angle, some were just odd
looking. And there wasn't much cost savings. I found a vendor selling very
cheap music racks on ebay for about $30. I considered them to be very
limited in space, only a couple U of space. I wouldn't have been able to
store all my current toys in a single music rack. I now have 5 2500's, 1
catalyst 5002, an isdn simulator box, a server, and 2 rack mountable
hubs/MAUs. So your choice depends on how much equipment you can forsee
yourself buying.

Telecom Equipment Racks. They are 19" wide, and come in many sizes. A local
vendor, Rexel Southern, had several 7' Chatsworth racks in stock. They
bought in bulk, and I was able to get a great deal without paying shipping.
My 7' black rack cost me about $115. I would look around your city, and see
if you can find a telecom vendor if you want to look for a telecom rack. The
4' racks were about twice the cost, they could sell the 7' cheaper because
more people bought them.

-Jason
www.CCIEwannabe.com - Affordable remote Cisco lab access



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Advice on LightStream 100 needed! [7:38743]

2002-03-27 Thread Jeffrey Hall

I am looking for a cheap alternative to a LightStream 1010 and I saw a LS
100 on Ebay.  It's being listed for another day and it's only at $200.

Is this a switch worth buying for a home lab?  Any feedback will be greatly
appreciated.

Jeff Hall


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RE: wan home lab [7:38829]

2002-03-27 Thread Daniel Cotts

You'll need to purchase an external CSU/DSU to connect to the 2500. Usually
uses a V.35 cable between router and CSU/DSU. Then connect the internal
CSU/DSU of the 2600 to the external CSU/DSU. T-1s use pins 1&2 and 4&5.
Create a rollover cable swapping those two pairs and you're good to go.
Remember Clocking Internal on one of the CSU/DSUs.
A good source for used equipment is eBay. Buy the box first - then the
cable. Larscoms use an RS530 cable.

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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: wan home lab [7:38829]
> 
> 
> I am setting up a home lab. I have a Cisco 2600 with a T1 
> csu/dsu and 2
> Ethernet connections
> 
> I want to simulate a wan environment with a 2500 with 2 
> serial connections
> and 1 aui Ethernet.
>  
> 
> What type of cabling do I need to establish a connection between the 2
> routers?
> 
>  
> If the T1 csu/dsu takes rj48 ? how do I connect that to the serial 
> 
> connection on the 2500?
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> DTE/DCE  v.35
> 
> 
> Will I need a CSU/DSU ?




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subinterface in ospf [7:39029]

2002-03-27 Thread cage

when using the command frame-relay interface-dlci XXX in point-to-point
subinterface, does it mean the inverse-arp to map the remote ip to the local
dlci dynamicly?




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CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-03-27 Thread STRAND Scott

Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification
Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to
get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I
intend to use BOSON as well.

Thanks,
Scott
CCNP, CCDA

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Re: the frame-relay interface-dlci XXX [7:39331]

2002-03-27 Thread sam sneed

You want the truth?...YOU CAN'T  HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!


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> I do want to know the truth of the frame-relay interface-dlci XXX and the
> diference between it and the command map?




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Re: The minimum home lab equipment for ccie R & [7:38395]

2002-03-27 Thread sam sneed

You can skip the token ring stuff, its not going to be on the test according
to this group.


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> Almazi,
>
> Here's what I typically recommend and sell for a home lab:
>
> Two Cisco 2501 routers, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash
> Three Cisco 2513 routers, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash
> Two Cisco 2503 routers, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash
> One Cisco 2511 router, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash
> One Cisco 2522 router, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash
> All 25xx routers with 12.x Enterprise Plus IOS
> Catalyst 2901 Switch (same OS as cat5k)
> ISDN Simulator
> Cisco 3900 Token Ring Switch Simulator Software
> Cables/maus/media filters/ethernet xcvrs, and other accessories.
>
> -Brad
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> www.optsys.net
>
> ""Almazi Rashid""  wrote in message
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> > Hi every body:
> > I am really preparing for my lab.Because I must have to be appear before
> Aug
> > 2002.
> > I studied CIM version 1.0, it is good but u know its simulation.It has
> > limitation.
> > Now I am willing to buy equipment.I don't know what are the minimum
> quantity
> > of router and switches I need.
> > I know ISDN I can access over online rack accessing as well as cat5xxx.
> > What are the things I need to practice on routers?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your feed back.
> > Regards
> > Almazi
> > CCNP Version 1.0




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RE: [mrtg] How to get running-config of cisco rout [7:39624]

2002-03-27 Thread Garry Cook

I use snmpset to tftp my router configs a couple times a day. The command is
as follows:

snmpset -t.1.3.6.1.4.1.9.2.1.55. s .cfg

I also use it to write my running configs to NVRAM at the same time:

snmpset -t.1.3.6.1.4.1.9.2.1.54.0 i 1

Each day my configs are archived and I save the last 30 days worth.
The NVRAM write has saved me a couple of times when myself and others have
made router changes and forgot to write the configs.
We only had to have one major failure due to a reboot that returned it to an
old config before I decided to implement this feature.

There are a couple of MIB browsers out there that may help you out in the
future. Solarwinds makes a decent one, although it may be pricey. I think
that there are some freeware MIB browsers, but I can't remember what they
are off the top of my head.

Garry W. Cook, CCNA
Network Infrastructure Manager
MACTEC, Inc. - http://www.mactec.com/
303.308.6228 - 303.881.5157


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> 
> Hello,mrtg#!
> 
> 
> Any one can tell me whether I can  get running-config of 
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RE: #8960 [7:39144]

2002-03-27 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Congratulations Paul, and thanks for the feedback.

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Paul Jin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:58 AM
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Subject: #8960 [7:39144]


Hello all,

I guess it is my turn to make my announcement. I got my number this 
past weekend in RTP. #8960 This was my first attempt and thankfully, 
my last attempt for this track. I would especially like to thank Brian
Dignan,
CCIE #8248. He was a tremendous help in getting me ready to pass the first 
time. My company actually promised me 100% support for CCIE training when I
got
on board but the past 2 years, I ended up without any of the promised
training.
So I needed to prep with my own fund (meaning, I had to ask my wife for the
money) :-)
and I needed a lot of help on many subjects that I normally don't deal with 
every day. Especially on DLSW, TR and IPX.

Brian took the time to explain these technologies and made the complex 
topics, easier to understand. I believe Stan earlier has already mentioned 
that Brian has started teaching his own Cisco and lab prep classes in the DC
metro area.
I also recommend Brian 100%. Anyone that would like to reach Brian can do
so at - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

As far as the books, I mainly used the same books as others, Bruce 
Caslow's book, Doyle 1 and 2 and CCIE practical studies. And Halabi 
book for BGP.

I mainly used the free labs, labs from the books and also used lab 1 
from Networkforce.com

Thank you Paul for creating the list and all members on this list.

- Paul Jin  CCIE #8960



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Re: the frame-relay interface-dlci XXX [7:39331]

2002-03-27 Thread MADMAN

interface dlci command = point-to-point
  map = multipoint

  in a nut shell

 Dave

cage wrote:
> 
> I do want to know the truth of the frame-relay interface-dlci XXX and the
> diference between it and the command map?
-- 
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Re: ISL Trunking from a h/w's perspective [7:39246]

2002-03-27 Thread MADMAN

I don't know why your so bitter but posting in such a vitriolic manner
using sentences that make no sense assuming things about me that you
don't know make you look foolish.

  But have a great day, life is too fleeting to be so dour!!!

  Dave

Joseph Brunner wrote:
> 
> "Danny Andaluz, CCNP" -
> 
> It will work. did it on a 2611. Ci$co, won't support it and obviously they
> want you to buy more
> expensive 100 Mbps ports/routers (even if my total of 4 vlans uses 1mbps)
> 
> Why do you believe everything cisco tells you ?  Most of their tech docs
> were written by people that
> have never had beyond level 1 on a production router. Would you take make
> out advice from the loser geek
> virgin ?  Business advice from Enron ?
> 
> "You must unlearn what you have learned." - yoda
> 
> Joseph Brunner
> ASN 21572
> MortgageIT MITLending
> New York, NY 10038
> (212) 651 - 7695 Voice
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ISL Trunking from a h/w's perspective [7:39246]
> 
> I don't know what else you want me to do to prove it.  This was true at one
> time but
> it has changed.  I have personally not tried this config and seen it work
> but if I have
> some time on Monday I'll confirm whether or not the 3660 will do as
> advertised.
> 
>   Dave
> 
> "Danny Andaluz, CCNP" wrote:
> 
> > no you can't.  I got straight from cisco that they have to be 100 meg
> > full-dux interfaces.
> > ""MADMAN""  wrote in message
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> > > Actually on some platforms with the right IOS you can trunk 10 meg
> ports:
> > >
> > > C3660B(config)#inter e2/0.1
> > > C3660B(config-subif)#encap dot1 1
> > > C3660B(config-subif)#
> > >
> > >   Dave
> > >
> > > danny wrote:
> > >
> > > > The router's ethernet must be 100 full dux.  You configure
> subinterfaces
> > on
> > > > the ethernet.  a trunking protocol must be configured on each sub
with
> > the
> > > > corresponding vlan #.  The router will route between Vlans.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > > Danny
> > > > ""George Siaw""  wrote in message
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> > > > > Thanks for all your responses.
> > > > >
> > > > > One last question though. For external router, routing between
vlans
> > if
> > > > > I have just one FastEthernet interface on the router can I route
> > between
> > > > > vlans?
> > > > >
> > > > > George.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf
> > Of
> > > > > Scott H.
> > > > > Sent: 23 March 2002 00:53
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: ISL Trunking from a h/w's perspective [7:39246]
> > > > >
> > > > > The only time the SC0 interface comes into play is for telnet into
> the
> > > > > box.
> > > > > If you have any 100 MB ports on your switch, you can run trunking.
> > > > >
> > > > > set trunk (mod/port) on isl
> > > > >
> > > > > If this trunk is running into a router, you need to create the
> > > > > subinterfaces
> > > > > on the router to enable routing between VLANS.
> > > > >
> > > > > int fa1/0.100
> > > > > ip address (the subnet of the vlan)
> > > > > encap isl (the vlan #)
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH,
> > > > > Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > ""George Siaw""  wrote in message
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> > > > > > Do I need an Sc0 port when routing between Vlans? However,
there's
> > no
> > > > > > uplink module on neither of my supervisor engines. Would you know
> a
> > > > > s/w
> > > > > > work around without having to buy the module?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > George.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: 23 March 2002 00:17
> > > > > > To: George Siaw; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: RE: ISL Trunking from a h/w's perspective [7:39246]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You dont have to configure SC0 interface to do isl or dot1q. Its
> > only
> > > > > > needed
> > > > > > for management, telnet etc...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Larry Letterman
> > > > > > Cisco Systems
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > > > > George Siaw
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:45 PM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: ISL Trunking from a h/w's perspective [7:39246]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas as how I can configure isl trunking without an Sc0 port
> on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > supervisor engines? Can I configure on of the ports to assume
this
> > > > > > position i.e. Sc0? If so what are the cmds?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > George.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > 

Re: Listserve problems- again [7:39359]

2002-03-27 Thread John Neiberger

The list was apparently down last night.  If you were experiencing these
problems then, you weren't the only one.  :-)

The list server has been having more problems than usual lately and I
don't know if Paul has figured out the exact issue yet.

John

>>> "Andy Barkl"  3/27/02 8:00:23 AM >>>
I am having problems receiving messages from the GroupStudy Listserve
servers.
I have unsubscribed and re-subscribed with 2 different email addresses
with
no success.
I do receive the subscribe and unsubscribe email messages but nothing
else.

Perhaps the list moderator or Paul has 2 minutes to offer any ideas?

Thank you




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Re: subinterface in ospf [7:39029]

2002-03-27 Thread Chuck

inverse arp does not apply. that is, when you invoke the frame-relay
interface-dlci command, this overrides inverse arp for that particular dlci.
other dlci's might still be mapped via inverse arp ( to the physical
interface )

this command is REQUIRED on point to point subinterfaces.


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> subinterface, does it mean the inverse-arp to map the remote ip to the
local
> dlci dynamicly?




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RE: Where do I start? [7:39553]

2002-03-27 Thread Lomker, Michael

> Even some of their CCNP series books are really easy reads 
> just to get a feel for things and learn the terminology. 

I think the key is to not use them as your sole reference point.  I failed
my first attempt at the CCNA exam (about 3.5 years ago) because the first
CCNA books released were weak on content.  The oft-mentioned advice of using
many sources for information is the key.




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Juniper [7:39666]

2002-03-27 Thread Stanzin Takpa

Is anybody know how to set history commands in Junper box ?

Stanzin




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RE: Console Cable [7:39585]

2002-03-27 Thread Matthew Meiers

I have seen this problem when the flow control is not set right.

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Ladrach, Daniel E.
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9600 8,N,1 should be the settings on your hyperterminal.

Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom


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Subject: Console Cable [7:39585]


Hi group

Iam having trouble with using a console cable into any of my routers.
The
problem is when I power on the router, I can see it loading on the
screen
but
when it comes up press return to get started nothing happens when I do
press
return.  I have tried this on all my routers, using hyper terminal and
tera
term.  I have made sure the cable is fitted right. The keyboards return
key
works on other applications.  This has only just started to happen.  Any
ideas?

2nd Question

Iam trying to connect 2 2501 by the aux port and use them as a frame
relay
switch does any one know the configuration for this?

Thanks

Steve




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Re: Reposting: MTU figures ? [7:39301]

2002-03-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

1500 bytes is the Ethernet frame without the header and CRC. It's the 
maximum amount of data the upper layer can stuff into an Ethernet frame. 
It's the payload in the Ethernet frame.

When books refer to the Ethernet MTU as 1518 bytes, they are including the 
following:

destination address = 6 bytes
source address = 6 bytes
length or EtherType = 2 bytes
payload = 1500 bytes (for example, a TCP/IP or whatever packet)
CRC = 4 bytes

You may see 1514 too. Sometimes, books don't count the CRC.

You may also see the 8 byte preamble before the destination address 
included. Technically, the inter-frame gap after the frame could also be 
included. And then there's MPLS and VLAN tags that can get thrown into the 
mix too.

At the most basic level, however, understanding where 1500 versus 1518 
comes from is essential.

Priscilla


At 08:05 AM 3/27/02, Joshua Dughi wrote:
>Hi,
>
>With regards to Ethernet's MTU size, I'd like to provide the fine-tuned
>response, which
>I have cut & pasted from Cisco document:
>
>The packet size, referred to as MTU is the greatest amount of data that can
>be
>transferred in one physical frame on the network. For Ethernet,
>the MTU is 1518 bytes,
>for PPPoE it is 1492,
>while dial-up connections often use 576.  The difference comes from the fact
>that when
>using larger packets the overhead is smaller, you have less routing
>decisions, and
>clients have less protocol processing and device interrupts.
>
>I haven't taken the time to find the explanation as to why 1500 bytes is so
>often
>referred to as the MTU size. Perhaps someone can nail down the distinction
>between the
>1500 byte figure, which is quoted so often, and the 1518 MTU byte #.
>
>Joshua Dughi
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>John Green wrote:
>
> > reposting as i got just one response
> >
> > >  MTU for 
> > >  Ethernet is 1500 bytes
> > >  SLIP is  576 bytes
> > >  Frame Relay  ???
> > >  Token Ring   ???
> >
> > __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards.
> > http://movies.yahoo.com/


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RE: Cheap switch... [7:39547]

2002-03-27 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

If you want to get familiar with the CatOS commands, please feel free to use
my free training application found on my RouterChief site.

Hth,

Ole

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> easily obtainable from e-bay that was very similar to the 
> bigger Catalysts command-wise, but much cheaper. 

I'm not going to buy a COS switch.  A 2901 will set you back $1400 or so and
it still won't have ATM, FDDI, or an RSM.  It makes a lot more sense to get
access to a switch at work or rent some rack time; I decided to take the
switch class.  

If you just want to experiment with ISL routing, trunking, VLANS, and that
kind of thing then you could buy a much cheaper switch.  A 2912XL will do
that and they are about $400 on E-bay.




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Re: framerelay between 2501 and 2611 [7:39617]

2002-03-27 Thread sam sneed

I didn't realize you could use 2500 series as the frame relay switch. If
this is the case I'll spring for the extra $300 for a 2520 with 4 serial
interfaces. This way I could use it as a FR switch for the future "almost
real world" practice.
Thanks alot.

""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> You can do Frame Relay with two back-to-back Cisco routers of any type.
> Well, there may be some exceptions, but certainly a 2501 and 2611 should
> work.
>
> It's not very "real world" but it's cheaper than 3 routers.
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 11:32 AM 3/27/02, Lomker, Michael wrote:
> > > I think the question is as clear as can be. Can I do frame
> > > relay between a 2501 and a 2611 router.
> >
> >I've never seen it done with two routers; providing the URL in the first
> >message would have helped.
> >
> > >  Here is an example on Cisco's site that only uses 2 routers:
> > >
> > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/125/frbacktoback_hybrid.html
> >
> >It works fine...I just tried it on a 2621 and a 2501.  You'll just need a
> >serial interface for the 2621 and a serial loopback cable.
> 
>
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RE: framerelay between 2501 and 2611 [7:39617]

2002-03-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

You can do Frame Relay with two back-to-back Cisco routers of any type. 
Well, there may be some exceptions, but certainly a 2501 and 2611 should
work.

It's not very "real world" but it's cheaper than 3 routers.

Priscilla

At 11:32 AM 3/27/02, Lomker, Michael wrote:
> > I think the question is as clear as can be. Can I do frame
> > relay between a 2501 and a 2611 router.
>
>I've never seen it done with two routers; providing the URL in the first
>message would have helped.
>
> >  Here is an example on Cisco's site that only uses 2 routers:
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/125/frbacktoback_hybrid.html
>
>It works fine...I just tried it on a 2621 and a 2501.  You'll just need a
>serial interface for the 2621 and a serial loopback cable.


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Re: What is bandwidth domain? [7:38887]

2002-03-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 01:02 PM 3/27/02, John Green wrote:
>so Broadcast domains and Bandwidth domains are the
>same ?

Of course not. We said that bandwidth and collision domains are the same on 
Ethernet.

>  (i guess so)
>
>For Ethernet broadcast and collision domains are the
>same. right ?

Of course not. You may be confused because some people use "broadcast" when 
talking about sending Ethernet at the physical layer. A coaxial cable is 
sometimes called a broadcast medium because the bits radiate out from the 
sender and reach all senders on the cable. It's an unfortunate use of the 
term that has been carried into generic discussions of Ethernet, despite 
the demise of coaxial-cable based Ethernet.

Broadcast means a frame addressed to FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF. Switches forward 
these frames to all ports. They forward unicasts only to the correct port 
once they learn the location of destinations. A hub, on the other hand, 
forwards all bits without regards for the destination address.

This is networking 101. Do you know about the CCNA study list? You should 
join that list.

Priscilla


>--- Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote:
> > A bandwidth domain is an area of a network where all
> > devices can hear each
> > other's transmissions. A collision domain is a type
> > of bandwidth domain,
> > but it's specific to Ethernet.
> >
> > I think people started using the term "collision
> > domain" first and then
> > someone said, "yes, but that doesn't apply to token
> > ring which doesn't have
> > collisions!" so some marketing engineer came up with
> > the term "bandwidth
> > domain." ;-)
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
>
>
>__
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards.
>http://movies.yahoo.com/


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Re: BootP Probs [7:39532]

2002-03-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I would suspect the printers also. One other thought I had was that it 
would be possible to misconfigure routers such that there was a "helper 
address" loop!

The helper address should point to the actual server (or a directed 
broadcast for the network that a server is on). But a newbie Cisco person 
might think it should point to the next-hop router. Then that router could 
point backwards due to a misconfiguration. And you could get a loop and see 
a result like your 16 hops. I doubt that this is your problem, but it could 
be. Please let us know what you discover. This is an interesting quandary. 
Thanks.

Priscilla

At 08:05 AM 3/27/02, kevhed wrote:
>Yea, that "16 hops" statement had me suspicious too, since that e-net
>interface is the first hop for that printer. I'm guessing that the printer
>has some issues with bootp.
>Thx
>--
>Kevin Keay (N+,CNE,CCSE,CCDP,CCNP)
>Sr. Network Specialist
>Ondeo-Nalco
>One Ondeo-Nalco Center
>Naperville, IL 60563
>(630) 305-2557
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> > At 10:54 AM 3/26/02, kevhed wrote:
> > >Hi all,
> > >I'm having a problem with bootp.  I have a remote site that is connected
> > >back to corp via frame relay circuit.  The clients at this remote
>location
> > >are using bootp successfully to get network settings, but the printers
> > >(tektronics 740;s) can not.  When sniffing the frame circuit, I am not
> > >seeing any bootp packets (from printers) coming from the e-net int of
>that
> > >router.  I have the ip helper config'd on the e-net int, as the clients
>are
> > >working successfully.
> > >
> > >Doing a debug on an access list for udp, I get this:
> > >5w6d: UDP: rcvd src=0.0.0.0(68), dst=255.255.255.255(67), length=564
> > >5w6d: BOOTP: opcode 1 on interface FastEthernet0, 46053 secs, 16 hops
> >
> > Is the debug showing the packet from the printer? That 16 hops looks
> > awfully strange. The client should set the BOOTP hop field to zero. A
> > router can increment it, but I doubt that the packet has really been
> > through 16 routers. Maybe the printers have a buggy implementation of
> > BOOTP. Did they ever work? My guess is that a router won't forward a
BOOTP
> > with hops as large as 16 already.
> >
> > My next step would be to sniff on the Ethernet side and compare BOOTPs
> > coming from the clients to BOOTPs coming from the printers.
> >
> > This is going to be a tricky one. Please let us know what you discover.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> >
> > >The bootp requests never gets to serial int.  Any ideas what this error
>is?
> > >
> > >Thx
> > >
> > >--
> > >Kevin Keay (N+,CNE,CCSE,CCDP,CCNP)
> > >Sr. Network Specialist
> > 
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com


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RE: Where do I start? [7:39553]

2002-03-27 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

I don't believe that Sybex is junk. Most of their stuff provides a good
background for people who are new to Cisco and need things explained in a
way that they'll understand. When I started working with Cisco equipment
years ago and started the certification track, Sybex worked great for me.
Even some of their CCNP series books are really easy reads just to get a
feel for things and learn the terminology. However, I personally prefer the
Cisco Press books at this point because of the detail they go into. Just my
opinion.

Shawn K.

-Original Message-
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Subject: RE: Where do I start? [7:39553]


Sorry to point out the obvious, but any book on CCNP is going to be
confusing. My trick was to use a bunch of sources, White papers I found
snooping around on Cisco's Site and the internet. My advice is use a lot of
different sources, use books or white papers, everything else, is just a
waste of time and money. 

Here is my assessment of what I used for Routing, which is hard but covers
the basics; Most people start with routing. I am going in the order Routing,
Switching,CIT then BCRAN.

Cisco White papers and other documents found on the net- Great Sybex - Junk,
a waste of paper. Surprisingly the questions are good Exam Cram - Way to
easy, but if you want to have an outline its OK - junk Cisco Books- Good
covers what you need to know. 2501 Router 16/16 with Cisco 12.x Firewall IOS
and DES - Great

See, the problem is, the CCNP covers a lot of material. IF you were to write
a book that contained every detail you needed to know for real life, it
would be 12 feet tall. So the 11 and 3/4 feet that are left out, are left up
to you to find. Buy some routers, buy books only, doesn't matter which ones
really. Compare what you read in one book, to another. Its better to know it
well, and be able to show you skills at the jobsite, then it is to rush.
Once you get started and learn a few thing, the terminology will not be so
confusing.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:37 PM
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Subject: Where do I start? [7:39553]

Hi Guys,
I'm just about to start climbing the CCNP ladder and I need suggestions.
What books to start reading etc. Some friends are saying the BCSN Cisco
press books are too confusing and I'm more better of using other authors.
Any suggestions please?!




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TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]

2002-03-27 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote that TCP/IP was
written by the Depertment of Defense.  I am confident that ARPAnet was
commissiond by the DoD in the 60's to BBN, and maybe TCP/IP was derived from
these early protocls, but to say the the DoD, or BBN or anyone other than
the Internet community wrote TCP and IP would be incorrect, right?  I seem
to remember that IP was used in ArpaNet, but not TCP.  I thought TCP was
written in various universities.  I could even look up the couple (who used
to work at Cisco) who wrote it.

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RE: pix and e-mail problem [7:39643]

2002-03-27 Thread John Allhiser

Use the command "no fixup smtp"
Maybe it was disabled before the ver. upgrade?

The fixup protocol for SMTP on a PIX has a tendency to 
mudge any mail sessions that use ESTMP.  In other words,
it limits the number of commands used in an SMTP session.

Some Email servers (e.g. Exchange 5.5 and 2000) use ESMTP 
and balk when it is disabled.


-Original Message-
From: george gittins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:16 AM
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Subject: pix and e-mail problem [7:39643]


For the past months i been receiving multiple e-mails from the outside
world. Im currently running mail gear from symantec as the primary e-mail
server which is located behind the firewall (pix 520)this  is map with a
conduit statement to a real ip address. The weird thing is this setup has
been working before, of course i have upgraded the ios of the pix to version
6.1 .Tech support told me that their were know issue with the pix and mail
gear
especially mail guard..what is mailguard? and how can i diable it .. any
pointers are apreciated. I also running a packetshaper box and a caching
server from dell behind the firewall. at the same time the issue began to
happen? does anyone have a setup familiar to mine?
thanks



57529# show version

Cisco PIX Firewall Version 6.1(1)
Cisco PIX Device Manager Version 1.1(2)

Compiled on Tue 11-Sep-01 07:45 by morlee

57529 up 75 days 2 hours

Hardware:   AL440LX, 128 MB RAM, CPU Pentium II 233 MHz
Flash i28F640J5 @ 0x300, 16MB
BIOS Flash AT29C257 @ 0xfffd8000, 32KB

0: ethernet0: address is 0090.2710.27df, irq 11
1: ethernet1: address is 0090.270d.c12c, irq 10
2: ethernet2: address is 0090.2710.46a2, irq 15

Licensed Features:
Failover:   Enabled
VPN-DES:Enabled
VPN-3DES:   Disabled
Maximum Interfaces: 6
Cut-through Proxy:  Enabled
Guards: Enabled
Websense:   Enabled
Inside Hosts:   Unlimited
Throughput: Unlimited
ISAKMP peers:   Unlimited




George Gittins
Internet Systems Manager
Weslaco, Tx 78599
Phone (956)9696557




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Re: minimal CCIE lab setup [7:39543]

2002-03-27 Thread sam sneed

how about switching?

""Matthew Meiers""  wrote in message
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> I have heard that you can do everything on the lab with 5 2500's
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Edward Sohn
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:10 AM
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> Subject: minimal CCIE lab setup [7:39543]
>
>
> hey all
>
> i'm new to this list, but already seeing the benefits of being a part of
> it.  i look forward to these high-level discussions...
>
> after much research, i have weighed the possible options of how to go
> about preparing for my CCIE lab.  it appears that if i put together even
> a makeshift lab myself, i can save a lot of money and provide better
> preparation than if i go through a training company (if anyone has any
> other suggestions, please speak up).
>
> anyway, i was looking through cisco's recommended equipment list for the
> lab, and it shows only the series of routers/switches required; not the
> actual models (i.e. 2500, 2600, etc.).  b/c each router can perform the
> duties of many others, depending on the configuration, my questions are:
> (1) in general, what equipment constitutes a sufficient lab setting
> (CCIE's highly recommended to reply); and (2) what models of each series
> should i be looking at?
>
> hope it's clear!
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> ed
>
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Re: Where do I start? [7:39553]

2002-03-27 Thread Persio Pucci

Has anbody used this material before?! How good is it? As good as an
ABTronic? :)

Regards,

Persio

- Original Message -
From: "Kaminski, Shawn G" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: Where do I start? [7:39553]


> Also, go to "c c x x p r o d u c t i o n s . c o m"  and click on the
> "Recommended Reading" link at the bottom of the home page. This may help
you
> out.
>
> Shawn K.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rasman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:17 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Where do I start? [7:39553]
>
>
> Yomi,
> I understand your plight. (Feel your pain)
> Depending on your level of experience with (actual hands on time) you will
> need to start with a solid foundation of RFC's. If you would like to save
a
> lot of money start with CCIE Study Guide by Hutnik / Satterlie go to
> half.com and buy used for 29.00us. When you get to a standards based
> question go to the appropriate RFC. I would also recomend purchasing the
> Cisco Documentation CD. But as Chuck stated hands on is the key I am a
> totally unauthorized instructor (unbiased)and recommend 30 - 40 hours of
> hands on prior to taking any test. There are a number of lab resources
> available for rent. Todd Lammle www.lammle.com or
http://www.routersim.com/
> has published an excellent Virtual Lab for CCNP. Hope this opinion helps.
>
> Terry L. Hines
> Enterprise Trainer
> CompuTouch Training
> Microsoft - Infrastructure - Security
> Cisco / 3COM / Nortel / Extreme
>
>
>  ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc-index.txt
>  http://www.rfc-editor.org/download.html
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Where do I start? [7:39553]
>
>
> Hi Guys,
> I'm just about to start climbing the CCNP ladder and I need suggestions.
> What books to start reading etc. Some friends are saying the BCSN Cisco
> press books are too confusing and I'm more better of using other authors.
> Any suggestions please?!




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Re: how to deal with this message on pix? [7:39497]

2002-03-27 Thread Kevin McCarty

You can go to a site called  www.samspade.org to find out more about a 
specific address. Sam gives you contact information of who/what ISP is 
hosting, names, phone numbers etc.
I would recommend hitting your own network as hard as you can (after you 
get written permission from someone in the CIO capacity) and see the 
reaction that your defenses take, this will shed a lot of light on 
what's going on.

Also, if you want to go real deep, check out www.sans.org they have a 
great reading room for security threads.

Kevin McCarty
CCNA CCNP



On Tuesday, March 26, 2002, at 10:49 AM, x wrote:

> I manage two PIX 520s and I use syslog.
>
> I would scan your logs for the two addresses
> 61.156.7.187 and 202.96.137.40.  You can open them in
> wordpad or notepad and do a find for the IP addresses.
>  How often do they come up?  What ports are they
> trying to hit?  If you see these addresses come up
> hundreds of times, I would strongly recommend
> investigate further.  The two strongest possibilities
> are someone is trying to hack you by gathering
> information about your network or a application is
> having trouble communicating.  Either way you need to
> figure it out and whatever resolution you come to will
> take some of the load off your firewall.
>
> I also do some background checking on the addresses
> themselves.  I got nothing from nslookup on the 61
> address.  I got this for the 202 address.
>
> C:\>nslookup 202.96.137.40
> Server:  res1.ns.algx.net
> Address:  206.205.242.132
>
> Name:szptt134.szptt.net.cn.137.96.202.in-addr.arpa
> Address:  202.96.137.40
>
> Does this mean anything to you?
>
> The Deny inbound (No xlate) means someone outside is
> trying to get to an address inside your network, but
> you have no address specfied so it gets rejected.  The
> outside outside part, I haven't seen before.  I would
> also look at your routers and see if there is any
> indication there.  My guess is if it isn't malicious
> it could be a problem with routing between your
> firewall and router.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Tom
>
>
> --- Patrick Ramsey
> wrote:
>> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 26 15:36:33 2002
>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:07:56 -0500
>> From: "Patrick Ramsey"
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: how to deal with this message on pix?
>> [7:39497]
>> Reply-to: "Patrick Ramsey"
>>
>>
>> That's a normal message on the pix when a packet
>> gets denied.  It's just
>> saying that there was not a translation from an
>> internal or dmz device to
>> match the packet coming in from the internet.
>>
>> It doesn't really mean he has a one armed routing
>> scenario.  Actualy I don't
>> even see how that could work based on the logging.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
> "Wilton White"  03/25/02 11:13PM >>>
>> PIX should not see that traffic in the first place.
>> PIX only routes
>> traffic between interfaces and can't make "u-turns"
>> - only routes
>> traffic from inside to outside or from outside to
>> inside, but not from
>> inside to inside or outside to outside. PIX
>> considers this a security
>> violation.
>> I would check outside router and see why is it
>> forwarding this traffic
>> to the PIX.
>>
>> -- Lidiya White
>> CCIE #8155
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
>> Roy
>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:20 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: how to deal with this message on pix?
>> [7:39497]
>>
>>
>> hi all
>>
>> i notice the message shown as bellow on my pix, and
>> how can i deal with
>> it?
>>
>> 106011: Deny inbound (No xlate) udp src
>> outside:61.156.7.187/16372 dst
>> outside:202.96.137.40/6970
>> 106011: Deny inbound (No xlate) udp src
>> outside:61.156.7.187/16372 dst
>> outside:202.96.137.40/6970
>> 106011: Deny inbound (No xlate) udp src
>> outside:61.156.7.187/16372 dst
>> outside:202.96.137.40/6970
>> 106011: Deny inbound (No xlate) tcp src
>> outside:202.109.106.130/8893 dst
>> outside:202.96.137.40/59478
>> 106011: Deny inbound (No xlate) udp src
>> outside:202.96.136.201/49202 dst
>> outside:202.96.137.40/53
>> 106011: Deny inbound (No xlate) tcp src
>> outside:162.105.69.121/21 dst
>> outside:202.96.137.40/60090
>>
>>
>> any helps will be appreciated
>>
>>
>> sincerely
>>
>> Roy
>>
>>
>> ""John Green""  P4HkO{O"PBNE
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>>> is any one aware of any issue with PIX501 and
>>> connecting via cable modem to get an ip address
>> (dhcp)
>>> ?
>>>
>>>   internet-cable-PIXHOST
>>>modem 501
>>>
>>>  without the pix, the HOST is able to get the dhcp
>> ip
>>> address fine. the pix is configured to get an
>>> ipaddress from dhcp for its outside interface. but
>> it
>>> is failing.
>>> does anyone know of such issues ?
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RE: Console Cable [7:39585]

2002-03-27 Thread Ladrach, Daniel E.

9600 8,N,1 should be the settings on your hyperterminal.

Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom


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Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Console Cable [7:39585]


Hi group

Iam having trouble with using a console cable into any of my routers.  The
problem is when I power on the router, I can see it loading on the screen
but
when it comes up press return to get started nothing happens when I do press
return.  I have tried this on all my routers, using hyper terminal and tera
term.  I have made sure the cable is fitted right. The keyboards return key
works on other applications.  This has only just started to happen.  Any
ideas?

2nd Question

Iam trying to connect 2 2501 by the aux port and use them as a frame relay
switch does any one know the configuration for this?

Thanks

Steve




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Re: NAT Order of Operation [7:38021]

2002-03-27 Thread Marc Thach Xuan Ky

I have to eat my words in public!  I just had a go (IOS 12.0) at the
overlapping NAT example from the Cisco BCRAN book, and after minor mods,
the config worked like magic.  The outbound packets were indeed routed
before the destination address was known, incredible.
Marc

Marc Thach Xuan Ky wrote:
> 
> John,
> I have never had great faith in that page.  Taken literally, since
> outside to inside packets are NAT'd before routing, it means that if you
> have more than one outside interface, then a packet bound from one to
> the another will get translated twice.  If there was not an existing
> suitable mapping then that would then imply that the inbound packet
> would be dropped.  Now i haven't tried this, so I don't know whether it
> happens or not, but if it were the case, I'm sure somebody would have
> complained by now.  If it doesn't happen then the page does not
> correctly describe the operation.
> The flip side of that situation is that with a twice-NAT configuration a
> packet bound inside-outside is routed before the router knows the actual
> (translated) destination address.  How can that be?
> I haven't done that much with NAT since 11.2, but I have seen twice-NAT
> configurations where a ping has gone through and been replied to OK but
> when a debug was running, five translations occurred instead of four, I
> can't remember what the extra one was.  I have also seen a case where an
> inbound access list was inspected both before and after translation.
> Now I understand that the NAT code has been rewritten since then but my
> early experience with Cisco NAT has left me somewhat sceptical.
> Marc
> 
> John Neiberger wrote:
> >
> > Someone just posted something on the CCIE list and while researching the
> > answer I found this page:
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/556/5.html
> >
> > After looking at that page, it appears to me that it's safe to say the
> > if you're in an environment that uses both NAT and Policy-Based Routing,
> > the IP addresses you use in the policy maps are _always_ local
> > addresses, either inside local or outside local.  Is that correct?  It
> > seems that it would never be the case where you'd use an outside local
> > or outside global address within a route map.
> >
> > Is that a true statement?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John




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CCNP [7:39651]

2002-03-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello all,

I would like to congratulate everyone who recently got their CCIE's, I have
just finished my CCNP and understand the elation they feel.
So, now to build the home lab!

Have a great day,

kevin



Kevin McCarty
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RE: how to deal with this message on pix? [7:39497]

2002-03-27 Thread Hartnell, George

I had a similar 'self-inflicted wound' a while back.  Seems some dope (that
would be me) had retired some public IP ranges on the inside and needed to
(temporarily) route those to null from his inside router.  Otherwise, the
hapless administrator saw these udps denied with the dreaded 'xlate' error,
as his router was cheerfully sending the packets out the default gateway ---
the PIX inside interface.  Note the PIX does not, as aforementioned, route.

Sooo, I'd look at that outside router, and maybe any inside route tables you
might have.

Best, G.
VP OGC

 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wilton White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: how to deal with this message on pix? [7:39497]
> 
> 
> PIX should not see that traffic in the first place. PIX only routes
> traffic between interfaces and can't make "u-turns" - only routes
> traffic from inside to outside or from outside to inside, but not from
> inside to inside or outside to outside. PIX considers this a security
> violation.
> I would check outside router and see why is it forwarding this traffic
> to the PIX.
> 
> -- Lidiya White
> CCIE #8155
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 
> Behalf Of
> Roy
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: how to deal with this message on pix? [7:39497]
> 
> 
> hi all
> 
> i notice the message shown as bellow on my pix, and how can i 
> deal with
> it?
> 
> 106011: Deny inbound (No xlate) udp src outside:61.156.7.187/16372 dst
> outside:202.96.137.40/6970
> 106011: Deny inbound (No xlate) udp src outside:61.156.7.187/16372 dst
> outside:202.96.137.40/6970
> 106011: Deny inbound (No xlate) udp src outside:61.156.7.187/16372 dst
> outside:202.96.137.40/6970
> 106011: Deny inbound (No xlate) tcp src 
> outside:202.109.106.130/8893 dst
> outside:202.96.137.40/59478
> 106011: Deny inbound (No xlate) udp src 
> outside:202.96.136.201/49202 dst
> outside:202.96.137.40/53
> 106011: Deny inbound (No xlate) tcp src outside:162.105.69.121/21 dst
> outside:202.96.137.40/60090




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Re: CAR bandwidth limitation problem [7:39533]

2002-03-27 Thread Steven A. Ridder

What was the resolution?

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> Daniel Ladrach
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cisco Breaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CAR bandwidth limitation problem [7:39533]
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I wanted to limit our internet usage so I applied rate-limit command to
our
> internet routers serial interface bu couln't make it work. configuration
is
> below. what I wanted to do is I want to give 96000 bits bandwidth to users
> who come from the firewall with 192.168.2.5 and I want to give all the
> others who are coming with ip address 192.168.2.6 only 16000 bits. But it
> doesnt work, when I look with sh int ser 0 rate-limit, all I see is
nothing
> conformed. I applied it as input because download is important for us not
> upload. Any help will be appreciated? I am tired of trying so many things
so
> I thought maybe someone can help.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Cisco Breaker,
> CCNP,CCDP
>
> Router#sh run
> Building configuration...
>
> Current configuration : 1959 bytes
> !
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 192.168.1.3 255.255.255.0
>
> interface Serial0
>  ip address 192.168.2.2 255.255.255.252
>  rate-limit input access-group 5 96000 8000 16000 conform-action transmit
> exceed-action drop
>  rate-limit input access-group 110 16000 1500 2000 conform-action transmit
> exceed-action drop
> !
> interface Serial1
>  no ip address
> !
> no ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.2.1
> no ip http server
> !
> no logging trap
> access-list 5 permit 192.168.2.5 log
> access-list 110 permit ip host 192.168.2.6 any log
>
> Router#sh int ser 0 rat
> Serial0
>   Input
> matches: access-group 5
>   params:  96000 bps, 8000 limit, 16000 extended limit
>   conformed 0 packets, 0 bytes; action: transmit
>   exceeded 0 packets, 0 bytes; action: drop
>   last packet: 1213151652ms ago, current burst: 0 bytes
>   last cleared 00:24:18 ago, conformed 0 bps, exceeded 0 bps
> matches: access-group 110
>   params:  16000 bps, 1500 limit, 2000 extended limit
>   conformed 0 packets, 0 bytes; action: transmit
>   exceeded 0 packets, 0 bytes; action: drop
>   last packet: 1213151692ms ago, current burst: 0 bytes
>   last cleared 00:23:58 ago, conformed 0 bps, exceeded 0 bps




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==> FOR SALE: CCDA, CCNP and CCDP Books at 50% or lower [7:39590]

2002-03-27 Thread CCNP & CCDP

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RE: Where do I start? [7:39553]

2002-03-27 Thread Brian Zeitz

Sorry to point out the obvious, but any book on CCNP is going to be
confusing. My trick was to use a bunch of sources, White papers I found
snooping around on Cisco's Site and the internet. My advice is use a lot
of different sources, use books or white papers, everything else, is
just a waste of time and money. 

Here is my assessment of what I used for Routing, which is hard but
covers the basics; Most people start with routing. I am going in the
order Routing, Switching,CIT then BCRAN.

Cisco White papers and other documents found on the net- Great
Sybex - Junk, a waste of paper. Surprisingly the questions are good
Exam Cram - Way to easy, but if you want to have an outline its OK -
junk
Cisco Books- Good covers what you need to know.
2501 Router 16/16 with Cisco 12.x Firewall IOS and DES - Great

See, the problem is, the CCNP covers a lot of material. IF you were to
write a book that contained every detail you needed to know for real
life, it would be 12 feet tall. So the 11 and 3/4 feet that are left
out, are left up to you to find. Buy some routers, buy books only,
doesn't matter which ones really. Compare what you read in one book, to
another. Its better to know it well, and be able to show you skills at
the jobsite, then it is to rush. Once you get started and learn a few
thing, the terminology will not be so confusing.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Where do I start? [7:39553]

Hi Guys,
I'm just about to start climbing the CCNP ladder and I need suggestions.
What books to start reading etc. Some friends are saying the BCSN Cisco
press books are too confusing and I'm more better of using other
authors.
Any suggestions please?!




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RE: PIX commands help [7:39558]

2002-03-27 Thread Maccubbin, Duncan

Wouldn't syslog answer all of his issues?

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Subject: RE: PIX commands help [7:39558]

As I can see that the first question has already been answered, so let me
answer the next two.

show conn

This command shows active connections.

http server enable
http 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.255

These two commands enable the http server and allows only workstation
172.16.1.1 to access it.

When running PDM, you're accessing the http server in the PIX, so by
restricting the http access, you're automatically restricting the PDM
access.

HTH,

Ole

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Subject: PIX commands help 


PIX questions

how to find the time/date when the config file was
last modified. (to find if any one else has tampered
with it)

how to find who is telnetted into the pix or who is
using the PDM into the pix

how to configure a particular IP address to be allowed
to manage pix via the PDM and no one else is allowed



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Re: What is bandwidth domain? [7:38887]

2002-03-27 Thread John Green

so Broadcast domains and Bandwidth domains are the
same ? (i guess so)

For Ethernet broadcast and collision domains are the
same. right ? 

--- Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote:
> A bandwidth domain is an area of a network where all
> devices can hear each 
> other's transmissions. A collision domain is a type
> of bandwidth domain, 
> but it's specific to Ethernet.
> 
> I think people started using the term "collision
> domain" first and then 
> someone said, "yes, but that doesn't apply to token
> ring which doesn't have 
> collisions!" so some marketing engineer came up with
> the term "bandwidth 
> domain." ;-)
> 
> Priscilla
> 


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RE: Where do I start? [7:39553]

2002-03-27 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Also, go to "c c x x p r o d u c t i o n s . c o m"  and click on the
"Recommended Reading" link at the bottom of the home page. This may help you
out.

Shawn K.

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Yomi,
I understand your plight. (Feel your pain)
Depending on your level of experience with (actual hands on time) you will
need to start with a solid foundation of RFC's. If you would like to save a
lot of money start with CCIE Study Guide by Hutnik / Satterlie go to
half.com and buy used for 29.00us. When you get to a standards based
question go to the appropriate RFC. I would also recomend purchasing the
Cisco Documentation CD. But as Chuck stated hands on is the key I am a
totally unauthorized instructor (unbiased)and recommend 30 - 40 hours of
hands on prior to taking any test. There are a number of lab resources
available for rent. Todd Lammle www.lammle.com or http://www.routersim.com/
has published an excellent Virtual Lab for CCNP. Hope this opinion helps.

Terry L. Hines
Enterprise Trainer
CompuTouch Training
Microsoft - Infrastructure - Security
Cisco / 3COM / Nortel / Extreme


 ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc-index.txt
 http://www.rfc-editor.org/download.html

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Hi Guys,
I'm just about to start climbing the CCNP ladder and I need suggestions.
What books to start reading etc. Some friends are saying the BCSN Cisco
press books are too confusing and I'm more better of using other authors.
Any suggestions please?!




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RE: minimal CCIE lab setup [7:39543]

2002-03-27 Thread Matthew Meiers

I have heard that you can do everything on the lab with 5 2500's

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Subject: minimal CCIE lab setup [7:39543]


hey all
 
i'm new to this list, but already seeing the benefits of being a part of
it.  i look forward to these high-level discussions...
 
after much research, i have weighed the possible options of how to go
about preparing for my CCIE lab.  it appears that if i put together even
a makeshift lab myself, i can save a lot of money and provide better
preparation than if i go through a training company (if anyone has any
other suggestions, please speak up).
 
anyway, i was looking through cisco's recommended equipment list for the
lab, and it shows only the series of routers/switches required; not the
actual models (i.e. 2500, 2600, etc.).  b/c each router can perform the
duties of many others, depending on the configuration, my questions are:
(1) in general, what equipment constitutes a sufficient lab setting
(CCIE's highly recommended to reply); and (2) what models of each series
should i be looking at?
 
hope it's clear!
 
thanks in advance,
 
ed

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Re: framerelay between 2501 and 2611 [7:39617]

2002-03-27 Thread MADMAN

I do it all the time, here is an example between a 7500 and MSFC
(flexwan):

interface Serial4/1/0.16 point-to-point
 ip address 70.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 traffic-shape rate 24000 4000 4000 1000
 frame-relay interface-dlci 16
  class dog

interface Serial7/0/0.16 point-to-point
 ip address 70.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
 frame-relay interface-dlci 16
 clock rate 200
!

  You can do same with 2500, 2600, 3600...

  Dave

"Lomker, Michael" wrote:
> 
> > I think the question is as clear as can be. Can I do frame
> > relay between a 2501 and a 2611 router.
> 
> I've never seen it done with two routers; providing the URL in the first
> message would have helped.
> 
> >  Here is an example on Cisco's site that only uses 2 routers:
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/125/frbacktoback_hybrid.html
> 
> It works fine...I just tried it on a 2621 and a 2501.  You'll just need a
> serial interface for the 2621 and a serial loopback cable.
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Re: PIX commands help [7:39544]

2002-03-27 Thread Ximena Velasquez

allowing just one host to access the pix via pdm: http 10.1.10.200
255.255.255.255 inside
if you are allowing networks (i.e. 10.1.10.0 255.255.255.0 inside) make sure
to remove them.
  "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  wrote: Don't use the time and date, use the
"Cryptochecksum" from the show
config command. If the checksum changed from the old one, you know
someone was there. Of course I'm assuming you have a backup copy some
where to compare the cryptochecksum numbers!

PIX# sh config
ssh timeout 5
terminal width 80
Cryptochecksum:kjshfsjhfskjfhsfj 0928023482048240248 (this is the last
line in the configuration file)
PIX#


HTH.Nabil



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PIX questions

how to find the time/date when the config file was
last modified. (to find if any one else has tampered
with it)

how to find who is telnetted into the pix or who is
using the PDM into the pix

how to configure a particular IP address to be allowed
to manage pix via the PDM and no one else is allowed



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VoIP 'default route' [7:39644]

2002-03-27 Thread Mathew Street

How do you make a call which doesn't match any locally configured
'destination pattern' route to a VoIP peer without using any '.'

Please respond to me directly.
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