PIX Firewall [7:46423]

2002-06-13 Thread Tim Champion

Does anyone know of a way to clear or tear-down individual connections on a
PIX Firewall? By using the show conn command I can see the connections I
want to clear but don't now how to.

Thanks in advance.




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Raees /Mumbai [7:46424]

2002-06-13 Thread Shaikh Raees

Dear Friends,

I am a CCIE candidate currently in Mumbai, Looking for some friends ofcourse
CISCO PROS to come together and form a study group.

If there is any group of such kind already there, I would love to join it.

Pls reply in personal to my direct email add.

Shaikh Raees
CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,
CCIE Written.




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How the RTD affect the web performance? [7:46425]

2002-06-13 Thread Kenny Smith

Hi ,

I have a WAN connection my branch in Sydney to the head office in London. I 
need to access the web page that located in London web server.  Normally, I 
feel the access is very slow when the link is congested. It is a 256K link. 
But now when I feel the access is very slow too but the link is not 
congested with only 25% utilization.  But, I found the round trip time to 
London increase from 200ms to 440ms.  How does it affect the performance 
  And I checked with the provider, they said the main undersea link is 
having problem, we are on alternate path now.  I suspect is that because the 
undersea cable utilization is very congested, so the provider only allocated 
small bandwidth to us. Is that possible?  How to determine??  Will provider 
cheat us on leased line bandwidth or the RTD affect a low on performance?



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Re: Parity errors and Cosmic radiation! [7:46282]

2002-06-13 Thread Mike Mandulak

Digging a hole might not be such a good idea. According to an IBM article,
they claim that radon gas can also produce the problem. So I guess you
shouldn't put equipment in the basement either.

http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/401/curtis.html

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From: Frank Merrill 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:54 PM
Subject: RE: Parity errors and Cosmic radiation! [7:46282]


 I read the link referenced at the bottom of the page and it was quite
 interesting.

 If you missed it, here it is again:
 http://www.eetimes.com/news/98/1012news/ibm.html

 After reading that, I guess you'll be digging a hole to put the router in!
 ;-)

 Good Luck!




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RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]

2002-06-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My bewilderment comes from my previous belief that Cisco, your company, 
was promoting the 6000 and 6500 series switches as the replacement to the 
5xxx series.  I have recommeded since last August to use the 65xx because 
of this.  Of course I thought this switch would be on the test!  It is a 
good machine and I like it.  Of course I like Foundry's ServerIrons too 
but for a Cisco Switch, I really do like the 65xx. 

IDS is only part of the problem.  The 65xx uses modules.  I thought for 
sure Cisco would want engineers to know about how to configure the modules 
not only because it increases the value of the engineer but more 
importantly, it is useful in marketing and sales.  Don't you want to 
promote the modules on the 65xxx  They are really expensive and Cisco 
must make some good money off of them. 

The 3550 is what?  Perhaps we can all buy one, I just saw 4 on e-bay, each 
for under $3000, but doesn't Cisco want to test us off of what many 
enterprises are using?  I was at a Cisco Gold Partner company last year 
and they only recommended the 5xxx and then the 65xx.  Of course many 
customers bought the 29xx but on the test there was the 5xxx-a modular 
switch.  It just doesn't make sense.  It looks too easy.

But hey!  It's your company!  Of course it will be beneficial to me as a 
test-taker to have the 3550.  I am just at a loss as to why Cisco is not 
putting the replacement switch on the test.  Your commments

Theo






Larry Letterman 
06/13/2002 02:33 PM

 
To: , 
cc: 
Subject:RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


and why are you so distraught about no IDS..?
other than the fact we all know your big on security.

Its a basic l2/l3 switch for the lan switching part of
the R/S lab, not the security lab...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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I don't know about this thing.
What is the real throughput I wonder.
It says 24Gbbs switching fabric but I can't find a place where is says  X
Gbbs throughput
Has anyone really ever tested one of these puppies?  I would like to know
if it can really take a beating without losing packets.
And this thing can't do IDS!  Why O why did they choose this thing?  How
about the Content Swiching Module?  Does it have anything like this?  I am
looking at the page now and can't see anything promising.  Man was someone
sniffing acid when they suggested the switch and it wasn't IDS???

I would like to know if anyone has any experience with this with like 10
1-gig copper connections, all intensive traffic flows between various
servers.  I know the 6509 can take the pain without too much trouble.  Can
the 3550 really perform

Theo






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The 3550 running the Enhanced image of IOS is a layer 3 switch with 24
or 48 ports- No need for a Route Module add-on.  You can put an IP on
every single port too from what I understand.

  It more or less can do the same thing as a 6500 - minus any Tel-Co
blades that might be able to be put in the 6500.  Of course, I don't
have any experience with the 6500 series switch, so I don't know what
all you can put in it. :(

Mark

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Dream of many 3550s..

Question:  Maybe I am an Idiot or something but why are they using the
3550?  I just don't understand.  I thought they shoud use the 6506 or
something like that not a lower model.  Can someone clarify this point
for
me.

Theo






Steven A. Ridder
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I'm an idiot.  I see someone else already posted it.

I'm going to bed then.

Steve

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 Right from Cisco's mouth:  NO MORE IPX, TOKEN RING, OR CatOS!

 CCIE candidates should note changes to the technical content and
equipment
 in the lab exam. Effective October 1st, 2002, candidates will no
longer
be
 tested in the areas of IGRP, Token Ring, Token Ring Switching, or IPX.
Note:
 DLSW+ will remain as a protocol that can be tested in the lab. The
Catalyst
 5500 switch will be replaced with the Catalyst 3550.


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2002-06-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I agree!  I am confused on the issue.  I ordered the GBIC-SX for the 6509 
but was worried about the difference between it and the WS-X5484.  What is 
the difference??  I can't find any information saying concretely that 
there is a difference.

Theo






Chuck 
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on a completely different topic, are the GBIC-SX and the WS-X5484 
different
names for the same identical piece of equipment?
If so, where on CCO does it say so? If not, then why not use a single part
number?

I ask because there seems to be a difference of opinion, with some folks 
at
Cisco saying absolutely they are different and not interchangeable, and 
some
folks not at Cisco, but with beau coup field experience saying there is no
difference whatsoever and the parts are exchangeable problem free.

just wondering where a guy goes to get The Truth ;-




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 you apparently dont need the token or cat switch
 anymore if you are taking the lab after october...


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 Cisco Systems
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM
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 Hi,

 I know that this may have come up many times.  But since I'm about to
start
 preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me 
some
 suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab.

 Currently, I have the following:

 2 x 1603R

 3 x 2501

 2 x 2503

 2 x 2511

 1 x Cat 5000

 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:-

 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for 
Token??
I
 really don't know what else I need...

 1 x Frame switch - 

 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?)

 And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most 
of
 them only had 4MB Flash on the moment...

 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks

 --

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Serial no MAC [7:46429]

2002-06-13 Thread Stanzin Takpa

When there is no MAC address on serial interface, how the packets are
routing ?



Stanzin

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RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]

2002-06-13 Thread Larry Letterman

you have some good points
However we have 35 + buildings in our campus and I have
almost as many 3500xls as I do 6509's in my IDF/BDF/Labs.

6500 switches will only prepare you for enterprise work, and
we sell alot of small systems as well to medium business's. My
opinion is if I know vlans and switching, I can setup a 6500 as easy
as a 3500...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


My bewilderment comes from my previous belief that Cisco, your company,
was promoting the 6000 and 6500 series switches as the replacement to the
5xxx series.  I have recommeded since last August to use the 65xx because
of this.  Of course I thought this switch would be on the test!  It is a
good machine and I like it.  Of course I like Foundry's ServerIrons too
but for a Cisco Switch, I really do like the 65xx.

IDS is only part of the problem.  The 65xx uses modules.  I thought for
sure Cisco would want engineers to know about how to configure the modules
not only because it increases the value of the engineer but more
importantly, it is useful in marketing and sales.  Don't you want to
promote the modules on the 65xxx  They are really expensive and Cisco
must make some good money off of them.

The 3550 is what?  Perhaps we can all buy one, I just saw 4 on e-bay, each
for under $3000, but doesn't Cisco want to test us off of what many
enterprises are using?  I was at a Cisco Gold Partner company last year
and they only recommended the 5xxx and then the 65xx.  Of course many
customers bought the 29xx but on the test there was the 5xxx-a modular
switch.  It just doesn't make sense.  It looks too easy.

But hey!  It's your company!  Of course it will be beneficial to me as a
test-taker to have the 3550.  I am just at a loss as to why Cisco is not
putting the replacement switch on the test.  Your commments

Theo






Larry Letterman
06/13/2002 02:33 PM


To: ,
cc:
Subject:RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


and why are you so distraught about no IDS..?
other than the fact we all know your big on security.

Its a basic l2/l3 switch for the lan switching part of
the R/S lab, not the security lab...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


I don't know about this thing.
What is the real throughput I wonder.
It says 24Gbbs switching fabric but I can't find a place where is says  X
Gbbs throughput
Has anyone really ever tested one of these puppies?  I would like to know
if it can really take a beating without losing packets.
And this thing can't do IDS!  Why O why did they choose this thing?  How
about the Content Swiching Module?  Does it have anything like this?  I am
looking at the page now and can't see anything promising.  Man was someone
sniffing acid when they suggested the switch and it wasn't IDS???

I would like to know if anyone has any experience with this with like 10
1-gig copper connections, all intensive traffic flows between various
servers.  I know the 6509 can take the pain without too much trouble.  Can
the 3550 really perform

Theo






Mark Odette II
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The 3550 running the Enhanced image of IOS is a layer 3 switch with 24
or 48 ports- No need for a Route Module add-on.  You can put an IP on
every single port too from what I understand.

  It more or less can do the same thing as a 6500 - minus any Tel-Co
blades that might be able to be put in the 6500.  Of course, I don't
have any experience with the 6500 series switch, so I don't know what
all you can put in it. :(

Mark

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Dream of many 3550s..

Question:  Maybe I am an Idiot or something but why are they using the
3550?  I just don't understand.  I thought they shoud use the 6506 or
something like that not a lower model.  Can someone clarify this point
for
me.

Theo






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I'm an idiot.  I see someone else already posted it.

I'm going to bed then.

Steve

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why my PIX admin don't control outgoing traffic? [7:46432]

2002-06-13 Thread Kenny Smith

I have a PIX firewall sitting between market data segment and my LAN.  The 
PIX outside interface is facing to market data segment and inside interface 
facing LAN.

By default, the outgoing traffic from LAN to the market data segment are 
permitted.  And incoming traffic from market data segment to LAN is blocked. 
  I have some market data application for eg open Bloomberg and Reuters and 
need to access market data segment.  You are informed that only connection 
need to initiated from inside LAN to market data segment.  So, my PIX 
firewall admin had decide to leave to the configuration as default-- permit 
outgoing and block incoming.  But I doubted that whether this is the way it 
supposed to be?  Shouldn!t we just open the ports to let the necessary 
traffic to go out and blocked other ports? Will it creates security holes if 
we don't control the outgoing traffic?  What is the possible attack?




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Re: PIX Firewall [7:46423]

2002-06-13 Thread fahim

Hi Tim
use clear xlate command.

fahim
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 Does anyone know of a way to clear or tear-down individual connections on
a
 PIX Firewall? By using the show conn command I can see the connections I
 want to clear but don't now how to.

 Thanks in advance.




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help needed(bandwith) [7:46434]

2002-06-13 Thread kaushalender

Hi group,

we have a customer to which we r providing bandwith on ethernet through 
lan extender.Now i have to restrict him on 32 kbps bandwidth on 
ethernet.we have cisco 2610 router so i cannot implement ratelimit on my 
ethernet because all of our traffic goes throuh ethernet .So can 
somebody help me .How can i restrict user to 32kbps on ether on router 
lan interface.I have tried sub int of ethernet

But no Luck
Plz help me
Thanx in advance

kaushalender




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RE: CCNP 640-603 [7:46328]

2002-06-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ashish,

Meaning no disrespect,  I am sure that you would agree with me when I say,
memorizing a command is different to doing it on router/switch.

If a question asked: 
Configure Ether0 on a router with the following address 172.22.22.2/23, what
would the command be
(a) (config-if)# ip address 172.22.22.2 255.255.255.0
(b) (config-if) ip address 172.22.22.2 255.255.254.0
(c) (config-if)# ip address 172.22.22.2 255.255.254.0
(d) (config-if)# ip address 172.22.22.2 255.255.254.0 secondary
(e) (config-if)# ip address 172.22.22.2 255.255.0.0

With the normal MCQ type question, most would choose (C) and be done with
it. This is because they remembered the command syntax for configuring an ip
address on an interface.

However, if you are now told to physically (logically?) do it, a candidate
would now have to come to grips as to how a router/switch works with the
related gotcha's

Simulation type scenario
# int e0
(config-if)# ip address 172.22.22.2 255.255.254.0 (Now we even have to
figure out what the SN Mask is .. no tips ala MCQ options)

But most newbies / memorizers / people without experience would forget to
the do second part of this  I'm sure you know what it is.

And that is why they are better in my opinion. 
You do have a 'lab' - it's just virtual :)
It will help sort the wheat from the chaff.

And that's my two cents

Manish

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Sent: 12 June 2002 23:17 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCNP 640-603 [7:46328]


well, CCNP does not have lab exam in it.So no matter what questions u put in
the exam, u cannot avoid those people who take exam without any lab
experience.U can always read ,understand concepts, memorize commands and
read some scenarios.
There's no need to actually work on cisco boxes.
CCNP should have lab exam as part of the certification if we totally want to
remove the concept of Paper CCNP's even if not as exhaustive as
in CCIE.


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From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 5:19 AM
Subject: RE: CCNP 640-603 [7:46328]


 Hi Amir,

 Just remember that the exam format has changed but the material on which
you
 are going to be tested has not. If you have experience with routing / etc
 you should have no problem writing the exam, it could actually be easier.

 I am sure most would agree with me when I say this, but I think the new
 Cisco exams are definitely a step in the right direction. After all, they
 are now a bit more real world based. It would help get eliminate some of
the
 Paper CCNP's that we see. This is a proactive decision on Cisco's part I
 think to negate the MCSE syndrome as I like to call it. BTW I consider
 myself a bit of a Paper CCNP.

 I personally am looking forward to writing CIT next week in the new format
 to complete my CCNP. My view, of course, could change on my result on that
 exam.

 Good luck

 Manish Hira
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 Network Administrator
 Servier Laboratories SA (Pty) Ltd




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 Sent: 12 June 2002 09:00
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 Subject: CCNP 640-603 [7:46328]


 HI!!
 I need an advise for CCNP exam 640-603 as it just changed.
 I m going to write routing exam by next week.
 I'll be thankful to all of you for any +ve feedback
 Regards
 Amir




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Re: help needed(bandwith) [7:46434]

2002-06-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

You can ratelimit his mac address.  O

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 Hi group,

 we have a customer to which we r providing bandwith on ethernet through
 lan extender.Now i have to restrict him on 32 kbps bandwidth on
 ethernet.we have cisco 2610 router so i cannot implement ratelimit on my
 ethernet because all of our traffic goes throuh ethernet .So can
 somebody help me .How can i restrict user to 32kbps on ether on router
 lan interface.I have tried sub int of ethernet

 But no Luck
 Plz help me
 Thanx in advance

 kaushalender




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RE: Not only is TR going... [7:46391]

2002-06-13 Thread Tim O'Brien

Theo,

By no means is the 3550 replacing the 6500 in a real world scenario. The
3550 is an IDF non-chassis switch. The most density you can get is 48
10/100 ports. However, the IOS structure and layer 3 capabilities allow you
to mimic a lot of the new functionality that you have in the 6500. This will
allow the CCIE lab to contain new technologies such as Private VLANS, QoS,
STP enhancements, Voice VLANS, etc... This also gives way to the future of
the 6500 running native IOS. So, if you are an expert on the 3550, chance
are that you will know your way around a 6500 pretty well.

Tim
CCIE 9015

p.s. Think of the cost of outfitting the 9 CCIE labs with new 6506's. With
RTP having something like 14 racks, I will use 10 as an average since I have
no idea what the other labs have. A simple config on a 6506 with a
Sup2-MSFC2, a WS-X6348-RJ45V, the necessary software and memory comes to
$71,000 list price * 90 units = $6,390,000.00! They could throw in a
WS-C3550-24-EMI for a list price of $4,990.00 and come out with a total of
$449,100 with a similar feature set.


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My bewilderment comes from my previous belief that Cisco, your company,
was promoting the 6000 and 6500 series switches as the replacement to the
5xxx series.  I have recommeded since last August to use the 65xx because
of this.  Of course I thought this switch would be on the test!  It is a
good machine and I like it.  Of course I like Foundry's ServerIrons too
but for a Cisco Switch, I really do like the 65xx.

IDS is only part of the problem.  The 65xx uses modules.  I thought for
sure Cisco would want engineers to know about how to configure the modules
not only because it increases the value of the engineer but more
importantly, it is useful in marketing and sales.  Don't you want to
promote the modules on the 65xxx  They are really expensive and Cisco
must make some good money off of them.

The 3550 is what?  Perhaps we can all buy one, I just saw 4 on e-bay, each
for under $3000, but doesn't Cisco want to test us off of what many
enterprises are using?  I was at a Cisco Gold Partner company last year
and they only recommended the 5xxx and then the 65xx.  Of course many
customers bought the 29xx but on the test there was the 5xxx-a modular
switch.  It just doesn't make sense.  It looks too easy.

But hey!  It's your company!  Of course it will be beneficial to me as a
test-taker to have the 3550.  I am just at a loss as to why Cisco is not
putting the replacement switch on the test.  Your commments

Theo






Larry Letterman
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To: ,
cc:
Subject:RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


and why are you so distraught about no IDS..?
other than the fact we all know your big on security.

Its a basic l2/l3 switch for the lan switching part of
the R/S lab, not the security lab...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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I don't know about this thing.
What is the real throughput I wonder.
It says 24Gbbs switching fabric but I can't find a place where is says  X
Gbbs throughput
Has anyone really ever tested one of these puppies?  I would like to know
if it can really take a beating without losing packets.
And this thing can't do IDS!  Why O why did they choose this thing?  How
about the Content Swiching Module?  Does it have anything like this?  I am
looking at the page now and can't see anything promising.  Man was someone
sniffing acid when they suggested the switch and it wasn't IDS???

I would like to know if anyone has any experience with this with like 10
1-gig copper connections, all intensive traffic flows between various
servers.  I know the 6509 can take the pain without too much trouble.  Can
the 3550 really perform

Theo






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The 3550 running the Enhanced image of IOS is a layer 3 switch with 24
or 48 ports- No need for a Route Module add-on.  You can put an IP on
every single port too from what I understand.

  It more or less can do the same thing as a 6500 - minus any Tel-Co
blades that might be able to be put in the 6500.  Of course, I don't
have any experience with the 6500 series switch, so I don't know what
all you can put in it. :(

Mark

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Re: Serial no MAC [7:46429]

2002-06-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

point-to-point, so no mac is needed.   There is only one recepient.

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RFC 1149 Compliant.



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Passing Mark for CVOICE (9E0-423) exam [7:46438]

2002-06-13 Thread blitzlight

Hi,

Does anyone know what's the passing mark for CVOICE 9E0-423 exam?

cheers!




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5-4-3 rule segment definition for 10BaseT [7:46439]

2002-06-13 Thread Chee Kin

Hi all,

I am unable to find from the archive the discussion on the 5-4-3 rule.

What is the definition of a segment for 10BaseT?  How can I apply the 5-4-3
rule in a 10BaseT network?  I attended a Novell class a few years back and
was taught that in the 10BaseT network, it makes use of a modified 5-4-3
rule, that is 5-4 rule.  Can someone confirm if this is correct or
otherwise.

Thanks,
cheekin




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Re: VPN problem from Pix to VPN concentrator 3030 [7:46343]

2002-06-13 Thread Patrick Donlon

I don't have both the isakmp statements in my PIX, why do I need it on both
interfaces when the crypto map is on only the outside? Also I have two other
PIX working OK with the only the one statement

Cheers

Pat






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 (Local Network and Remote Network) using USE IP ADDRESS/WILDCARD
 MASK BELOW).

 While you normally don't have to do this (you can autodiscover)
 Just do it to test if this is the problem.

 Also make sure you have both

 isakmp enable outside
 isakmp enable inside

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Re: help needed(bandwith) [7:46434]

2002-06-13 Thread netman

Give him a modem..

Does he have one IP address?

I believe you should be able to rate limit that one address. Just setup your
access list for his address or range...

Just a guess.

don
- Original Message -
From: kaushalender 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:08 AM
Subject: help needed(bandwith) [7:46434]


 Hi group,

 we have a customer to which we r providing bandwith on ethernet through
 lan extender.Now i have to restrict him on 32 kbps bandwidth on
 ethernet.we have cisco 2610 router so i cannot implement ratelimit on my
 ethernet because all of our traffic goes throuh ethernet .So can
 somebody help me .How can i restrict user to 32kbps on ether on router
 lan interface.I have tried sub int of ethernet

 But no Luck
 Plz help me
 Thanx in advance

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Re: CCIE home lab [7:46395]

2002-06-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

Could you explain a bit more what happen after October ?


Thanks

Philip

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 you apparently dont need the token or cat switch
 anymore if you are taking the lab after october...


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 Cisco Systems
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM
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 Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395]


 Hi,

 I know that this may have come up many times.  But since I'm about to
start
 preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some
 suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab.

 Currently, I have the following:

 2 x 1603R

 3 x 2501

 2 x 2503

 2 x 2511

 1 x Cat 5000

 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:-

 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token??
I
 really don't know what else I need...

 1 x Frame switch - 

 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?)

 And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of
 them only had 4MB Flash on the moment...

 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks

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RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]

2002-06-13 Thread Walker, Jim

YES, please do explain what happens after October.

Thanks

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Hi,

Could you explain a bit more what happen after October ?


Thanks

Philip

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:09 AM
Subject: RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]


 you apparently dont need the token or cat switch
 anymore if you are taking the lab after october...


 Larry Letterman
 Cisco Systems
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 Wrom: OTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJ
 Hunt Lee
 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395]


 Hi,

 I know that this may have come up many times.  But since I'm about to
start
 preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some
 suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab.

 Currently, I have the following:

 2 x 1603R

 3 x 2501

 2 x 2503

 2 x 2511

 1 x Cat 5000

 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:-

 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token??
I
 really don't know what else I need...

 1 x Frame switch - 

 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?)

 And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of
 them only had 4MB Flash on the moment...

 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks

 --

 Hunt Lee

 WebCentral




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RE: why my PIX admin don't control outgoing traffic? [7:46432]

2002-06-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Are you saying that you need your Bloomberg behind the Pix to communicate?
Then yes, you will need to create static maps to those pc's and open ports
for Bloomberg to those pc's. I would say open them only to Bloombergs and
Reuters. Bloomberg actually has a paper on doing internet connections that
you will need to get from your sales or service rep. It's simple and works.

Steve smith

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Subject: why my PIX admin don't control outgoing traffic? [7:46432]

I have a PIX firewall sitting between market data segment and my LAN.  The 
PIX outside interface is facing to market data segment and inside interface 
facing LAN.

By default, the outgoing traffic from LAN to the market data segment are 
permitted.  And incoming traffic from market data segment to LAN is blocked.

  I have some market data application for eg open Bloomberg and Reuters and 
need to access market data segment.  You are informed that only connection 
need to initiated from inside LAN to market data segment.  So, my PIX 
firewall admin had decide to leave to the configuration as default-- permit

outgoing and block incoming.  But I doubted that whether this is the way it 
supposed to be?  Shouldn!t we just open the ports to let the necessary 
traffic to go out and blocked other ports? Will it creates security holes if

we don't control the outgoing traffic?  What is the possible attack?




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End of CCIE Written [7:46445]

2002-06-13 Thread Reza

Hello Group,
I have received an email from Cisco that the current CCIE exam will retire
between July 15 and July 30.

Reza




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Cisco Works 2000 [7:46446]

2002-06-13 Thread Patrick Donlon

I've just started to use CW2000 after it had been installed by a
colleague. I have a Sun workstation and Netscape 4.78, the problem
I have is that Netscape doesn't display all the frames sometimes or the
data in a page. I do have a Windows machine and it does display the
pages but very slowly. What do other people use with CW2000??


Cheers

Pat




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Re: How the RTD affect the web performance? [7:46425]

2002-06-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

At 2:59 AM -0400 6/13/02, Kenny Smith wrote:
Hi ,

I have a WAN connection my branch in Sydney to the head office in London. I
need to access the web page that located in London web server.  Normally, I
feel the access is very slow when the link is congested. It is a 256K link.

Is this formally a dedicated line (fractional E1/T1), or is it frame 
relay?  If it's a true leased line, you should have the bandwidth.

But now when I feel the access is very slow too but the link is not
congested with only 25% utilization.  But, I found the round trip time to
London increase from 200ms to 440ms.  How does it affect the performance
   And I checked with the provider, they said the main undersea link is
having problem, we are on alternate path now.

This is possible.  Most of the newer undersea cable installations go 
in as 4-site SONET rings.  Hypothetically, you might be on a ring 
Sydney-Singapore-Los Angeles-San Francisco.  If the Sydney-LA link is 
the one you normally use, you may be going Singapore-San Francisco, 
with longer delay.  Better longer delay than infinite delay!

I suspect is that because the
undersea cable utilization is very congested, so the provider only allocated
small bandwidth to us. Is that possible?  How to determine??  Will provider
cheat us on leased line bandwidth or the RTD affect a low on performance?

Start by asking them, including a request to see the data circuit layout.




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Re: Serial no MAC [7:46429]

2002-06-13 Thread timothy thielen

I would like to revise and extend your answer.  :-)

A serial interface is not *always* point-to-point.

The answer actually depends on the Layer 2 protocol you are using.
If you are using Frame-relay, you have a DLCI mapped to the IP address.  On
ATM you have a VPI/VCI combo.  On point-to-point (PPP, etc...) the router,
as Steven said, doesn't need a hardware address, since it is just sending
and recieving on the interface where there is only one possible recipient,
so the router only needs to know that the destination is out a specific
p-t-p serial interface.

-Tim

Steven A. Ridder wrote:
 
 point-to-point, so no mac is needed.   There is only one
 recepient.
 
 --
 
 RFC 1149 Compliant.
 
 
 
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The Hunt for Peter Rosenthal [7:46449]

2002-06-13 Thread Paul Borghese

Some people have been asking me about the hunt for Peter Rosenthal (sounds
like a Tom Clancy novel :-)..  If you recall last month someone posting as
Peter Rosenthal was making derogatory comments about various people on the
list, GroupStudy.com, and the CCIE Lab program itself.  From the beginning I
knew this was an alias and a coward was hiding behind the real address.  I am
working with AOL (where the majority of the e-mails were posted) to obtain
the
real name behind the sender.  While they are cooperative, there are a number
of legal steps I need to take in order to obtain the name.

But the sender did make a mistake allowing us to close in on the sender. On
May 2nd a Peter Rosenthal posting was made from the IP address 216.45.3.175
to
the CCIE Lab list. You can verify this by viewing the header of the e-mail.
If you do a whois from www.arin.net you will find the block is owned by
Network Learning Inc. NLI is unable to tell us who was using that IP address
as they do not keep those records - they did say a class was in session
during
that week. Since the posting was made from a Network Learning Inc. assigned
IP
address - it is reasonable to believe the poster had access to NLI's network.
It has to be someone who has access to Network Learning Inc's network and has
an AOL account.

I am just now gathering up the last bit of information for AOL.  We should
have an answer soon.

So that is currently where we stand.

Take care,

Paul




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Re: Parity errors and Cosmic radiation! [7:46282]

2002-06-13 Thread MADMAN

This is what TAC will most often referance when you experience a
parity error:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/122/crashes_pmpe.html

  Dave

R. Benjamin Kessler wrote:
 
 I have a client who experienced this as well on a pair of 7206VXR's.
 The two routers rebooted themselves due to memory parity error.  The
 cosmic radiation was kind enough to cause the reload in the wee hours
 so no harm done.
 
 What's weird is that we have six 7206's in the same cabinet but only two
 experienced the problem.  The two afflicted routers just happened to
 service the same group of subnets (HSRP peers)...kinda strange.
 
 TAC dude wanted me to remove and re-seat the memory in the routers.  He
 said that if the problem happened again that they'd replace the memory.
 
 I opened up one of the routers to find that the memory is not only
 secured by retaining clips on each side but it also has a screw through
 it...I didn't bother on the other router.
 
 (knocking on wood) It has been several months since that happened and
 we've run clean since.
 
 If you're seeing this on a brand-new box, I'd guess infant mortality.
 Perhaps you can convince TAC to send you some new memory if you're still
 fighting this problem.
 
 If new memory still has the problem then you'll need to look at
 environmental conditions in your data center - e.g. grounding, heat, a
 lot of EMI, etc.
 
 Farooq Ali  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Hi all:
 
  I am a giga-lurker on this list and over the past 3 years have
 benefitted
 a
  lot. Have been able to achieve a lot due to the knowledge shared on
 this
  list. I would like to thank all for that.
 
  The reason I am writing now is an issue which is a bit mind boggeling.
 We
 do
  have a solution but I found it a bit funny hence sharing it here.
 
  One of our offsite routers a 7206 vxr in New York site was having a
 problem,
  we had this brand new router crash on us twice in a week and after
 opening
 a
  ticket with TAC, we sent them an upload of our sh tech output.
 
  They told us that we have parity issues and guess what? the parity is
 bad
  cause of Cosmic radiation!
  I am taking the solution on face value and not making a fuss about it,
 but
  wanted to hear from the more experianced folks on this list on how
 does
  minimal radiation is able to set the 0 to 1 or viceversa, while my
 router
 is
  not located in say Alpha quadrant in subnebular terrain. Its in NYC!
 :)
 
  here is a link to this phenomena on cisco site:
 
 http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:xbNsvjHnXUIC:www.cisco.com/warp/pub
 lic/
 122/crashes_pmpe.html+soft+parity+errors+and+cosmic+radiationhl=en
 
 
 
  Any ideas!
  Kfali CCNP security, afraid of the written.
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Re: which is the best Router for the following tasks [7:46288]

2002-06-13 Thread MADMAN

We have one we are beta testing some stuff with.  I really like the
fact that it has an internal PS and you can rack mount it.  Other than
that and an additional VIC slot it's not much differant than a 1751.

  Dave

R. Benjamin Kessler wrote:
 
 Look at the new 1700's (I think it's called 1760 or 1761) - they've got
 a 1U rack form factor.
 
 I haven't laid hands on one yet but it looks promising.
 
 It's only got one 10/100 Ethernet built-in but you can add a 10mb
 Ethernet via a WIC.
 
 Obviously you'd need another WIC for the serial
 
 I don't know how much punishment the CPU on these routers can take -
 thinking about QoS, Firewall, IPsec, NAT, etc.  Anyone work on one of
 these yet?
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:43 PM
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 Subject: Re: which is the best Router for the following tasks [7:46288]
 
 2611 if you want Ethernet and 2621 if you want Fast Ethernet.  I
 generally
 don't like to work with anything under a 2600.  You can also look at the
 1751.  The problem with the 17XX series is they aren't rack mountable.
 
 Fab Perez  wrote in message
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  Hi news
 
  I need to pickup a Router with the following features:
  _ 2 Ethernets
  _ 1 V.35 Serial / Sync
  _ QoS
  _ Load Balancing (EIGRP ?)
  _ NAT
  _ Firewall
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
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RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]

2002-06-13 Thread Tim O'Brien

Have a look at the link from Cisco. They will be removing Token Ring and the
3920 Switch and replacing the 5500's with 3550's which can do layer 3 and
other new advanced features.

Tim
CCIE 9015

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#18



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Hi,

Could you explain a bit more what happen after October ?


Thanks

Philip

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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:09 AM
Subject: RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]


 you apparently dont need the token or cat switch
 anymore if you are taking the lab after october...


 Larry Letterman
 Cisco Systems
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 Wrom: OTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJ
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395]


 Hi,

 I know that this may have come up many times.  But since I'm about to
start
 preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some
 suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab.

 Currently, I have the following:

 2 x 1603R

 3 x 2501

 2 x 2503

 2 x 2511

 1 x Cat 5000

 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:-

 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token??
I
 really don't know what else I need...

 1 x Frame switch - 

 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?)

 And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of
 them only had 4MB Flash on the moment...

 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks

 --

 Hunt Lee

 WebCentral




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PIX 6.2 [7:46454]

2002-06-13 Thread Clayton Dukes

Howdy,
Dows anyone know if the PIX 6.2 software is available yet?


Clayton Dukes
Cisco Info Center SE
CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, NCC




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RE: End of CCIE Written [7:46445]

2002-06-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

after that what will they be revising the syllabus, or new exam format
? or what after that..
Murali

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Hello Group,
I have received an email from Cisco that the current CCIE exam will
retire
between July 15 and July 30.

Reza




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Re: End of CCIE Written [7:46445]

2002-06-13 Thread Reza

New exam format.

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 after that what will they be revising the syllabus, or new exam format
 ? or what after that..
 Murali

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 Subject: End of CCIE Written [7:46445]

 Hello Group,
 I have received an email from Cisco that the current CCIE exam will
 retire
 between July 15 and July 30.

 Reza




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Re: CCIE home lab [7:46395]

2002-06-13 Thread Dennis Laganiere

There's a couple of threads running about it right now on the group.
Basically Cisco has announced Token Ring, IPX and a few other things are
gone from the lab in October.  Like I say, review some of the other current
threads and you'll see more detail...

--- Dennis


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From: Walker, Jim 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:34 AM
Subject: RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]


 YES, please do explain what happens after October.

 Thanks

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 Hi,

 Could you explain a bit more what happen after October ?


 Thanks

 Philip

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  you apparently dont need the token or cat switch
  anymore if you are taking the lab after october...
 
 
  Larry Letterman
  Cisco Systems
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  Hunt Lee
  Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I know that this may have come up many times.  But since I'm about to
 start
  preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me
some
  suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab.
 
  Currently, I have the following:
 
  2 x 1603R
 
  3 x 2501
 
  2 x 2503
 
  2 x 2511
 
  1 x Cat 5000
 
  I'm thinking whether I should get the below:-
 
  2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for
Token??
 I
  really don't know what else I need...
 
  1 x Frame switch - 
 
  1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?)
 
  And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most
of
  them only had 4MB Flash on the moment...
 
  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thanks
 
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RE: Pix don't route [7:46356]

2002-06-13 Thread Kent Hundley

That assumes that he has an address space to announce via BGP, which I he
did not mention so I assumed he did not have one.  Without your own address
space, BGP isn't going to do anything for you.  Yes, if the T1 goes down,
the servers would be unreachable, but without your own address space and/or
running your own DNS and doing some NAT magic with the replies to DNS
queries, you won't be able to give the correct DNS answer. (i.e. return
the T1 IP when the T1 is up, return the DSL address when the T1 is down)

Since all the replies from the servers would go out the T1, if a query for
the server came in the DSL the conversation would break when the server
traffic went out the T1 and got translated to the IP address on that
interface. This assumes using PAT on each router interface.

Obviously, if the OP has his own address space, the scenario changes
considerably and there are more options.

-Kent

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John Kaberna
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:10 PM
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What happens when the T1 provider goes down?  Those IP's will no longer be
reachable and the servers will be down.  Without BGP I don't see how you are
going to get the DSL circuit to take over the IP's that the T1 provider
advertises.  Assuming you have BGP, I would thing that policy routing and
using different global addresses would get the job done.  Sounds to me like
the only barrier is getting BGP.


Kent Hundley  wrote in message
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 Wayne,

 I would suggest disabling NAT on the PIX and performing your NAT on the
 router.  This eliminates the problem of not knowing what packets originate
 from the servers.  Then, setup Policy-Based Routing (PBR) on the router.
 You didn't post your config, so I assume you have 2 legal addresses, one
 from each ISP and you don't have your own address space.  If you want to
 setup inbound services you'll have to setup static NAT on the router for
the
 services you want to allow.  For outbound the PBR it's pretty simple:

 int s 0
  interface to T1

 int e 0
   interface to DSL

 int
  ip policy route-map test

 access-list 100  any

 route-map test permit 10
   match ip address 100
   set int s 0
 route-map test permit 20

 For outbound traffic packets from the servers will be sent out the T1 as
 long as it is up, all other traffic will be forwarded normally.  You'll
want
 to set your routing so that the DSL line is the preferred path for all
 traffic.  If the T1 goes down, the traffic from the servers will be sent
out
 the DSL.

 Additional problems that I see are if your servers are to be accessible
from
 the Internet, you will need to have static translations setup for your
 services on both the T1 and the DSL.  You can do this, but the issue
becomes
 name resolution and which address is returned to users on the Internet.
 It's probably safer to just setup the translations for the T1 and leave it
 at that. (you could play some games if you ran your own DNS, but things
get
 complicated pretty quickly)

 You don't need the FFS on the router as long as everything is behind the
PIX
 (although it shouldn't hurt) and you don't need the link between the
router
 and the PIX to be have a public address space as long as you do the NAT on
 the router.

 Of course, you also will want to harden the Internet facing router if you
 have not already done so.

 One more thing, it's not really accurate to say the PIX doesn't route.
 People say this all the time and what they really mean is that the PIX
 doesn't support routing protocols and some fancy routing techniques like
 PBR.  However, the PIX does perform layer 3 forwarding based on its
routing
 table, this means, by definition, it is routing.  It just doesn't have
the
 same features and functions for layer 3 forwarding that cisco routers
have.
 (this is kind of a nit, but saying the PIX doesn't route tends to confuse
 people)

 HTH,
 Kent

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 Wayne Jang
 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:10 AM
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 Subject: Pix don't route [7:46356]


 Hi,

 The Pix don't route, but can I do this?

 I have a 2 server 20 user small office.

 I have a Pix 506 sitting in front of a 2621 with a T1 and a DSL link to
the
 Internet.  I'm not looking to load balance or even do redundancy.  I just
 want traffic from the servers to use the T1 and I want traffic from the
 users to use DSL.  I could use access-lists on the 2621 to direct the
 traffic based on source address, but how will the 2621 know where the
 traffic came from?  Won't all traffic have a source address of the Pix
 outside interface?  What if I Nat the servers(on PIx) so that they will
 appear to have a different source IP than the users who will be behind the
 global outside address?  I'll need more public addresses, but that would
be
 fine.

 

Re: Not only is TR going... [7:46391]

2002-06-13 Thread Thomas Larus

I don't think Cisco is primarily concerned with the cost of outfitting
their own labs with 6500s.  After all, their cost is MUCH lower than the
list prices. I think Cisco is being considerate of OUR wallets.  This is the
same reason they don't have 7200 routers and 7500 routers on the equipment
list.  These are used widely in the real world, but Cisco wants us to be
able to learn the material without having access to a $50,000 lab (used
prices).


Tim O'Brien  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Theo,

 By no means is the 3550 replacing the 6500 in a real world scenario. The
 3550 is an IDF non-chassis switch. The most density you can get is 48
 10/100 ports. However, the IOS structure and layer 3 capabilities allow
you
 to mimic a lot of the new functionality that you have in the 6500. This
will
 allow the CCIE lab to contain new technologies such as Private VLANS, QoS,
 STP enhancements, Voice VLANS, etc... This also gives way to the future of
 the 6500 running native IOS. So, if you are an expert on the 3550, chance
 are that you will know your way around a 6500 pretty well.

 Tim
 CCIE 9015

 p.s. Think of the cost of outfitting the 9 CCIE labs with new 6506's. With
 RTP having something like 14 racks, I will use 10 as an average since I
have
 no idea what the other labs have. A simple config on a 6506 with a
 Sup2-MSFC2, a WS-X6348-RJ45V, the necessary software and memory comes to
 $71,000 list price * 90 units = $6,390,000.00! They could throw in a
 WS-C3550-24-EMI for a list price of $4,990.00 and come out with a total of
 $449,100 with a similar feature set.


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 Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


 My bewilderment comes from my previous belief that Cisco, your company,
 was promoting the 6000 and 6500 series switches as the replacement to the
 5xxx series.  I have recommeded since last August to use the 65xx because
 of this.  Of course I thought this switch would be on the test!  It is a
 good machine and I like it.  Of course I like Foundry's ServerIrons too
 but for a Cisco Switch, I really do like the 65xx.

 IDS is only part of the problem.  The 65xx uses modules.  I thought for
 sure Cisco would want engineers to know about how to configure the modules
 not only because it increases the value of the engineer but more
 importantly, it is useful in marketing and sales.  Don't you want to
 promote the modules on the 65xxx  They are really expensive and Cisco
 must make some good money off of them.

 The 3550 is what?  Perhaps we can all buy one, I just saw 4 on e-bay, each
 for under $3000, but doesn't Cisco want to test us off of what many
 enterprises are using?  I was at a Cisco Gold Partner company last year
 and they only recommended the 5xxx and then the 65xx.  Of course many
 customers bought the 29xx but on the test there was the 5xxx-a modular
 switch.  It just doesn't make sense.  It looks too easy.

 But hey!  It's your company!  Of course it will be beneficial to me as a
 test-taker to have the 3550.  I am just at a loss as to why Cisco is not
 putting the replacement switch on the test.  Your commments

 Theo






 Larry Letterman
 06/13/2002 02:33 PM


 To: ,
 cc:
 Subject:RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


 and why are you so distraught about no IDS..?
 other than the fact we all know your big on security.

 Its a basic l2/l3 switch for the lan switching part of
 the R/S lab, not the security lab...


 Larry Letterman
 Cisco Systems
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:11 PM
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 Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


 I don't know about this thing.
 What is the real throughput I wonder.
 It says 24Gbbs switching fabric but I can't find a place where is says  X
 Gbbs throughput
 Has anyone really ever tested one of these puppies?  I would like to know
 if it can really take a beating without losing packets.
 And this thing can't do IDS!  Why O why did they choose this thing?  How
 about the Content Swiching Module?  Does it have anything like this?  I am
 looking at the page now and can't see anything promising.  Man was someone
 sniffing acid when they suggested the switch and it wasn't IDS???

 I would like to know if anyone has any experience with this with like 10
 1-gig copper connections, all intensive traffic flows between various
 servers.  I know the 6509 can take the pain without too much trouble.  Can
 the 3550 really perform

 Theo






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 Please respond to Mark Odette II


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RE: PIX 6.2 [7:46454]

2002-06-13 Thread Roberts, Larry

No, but 6.2(1) is :)

PDM 2.0 is also available. Have both in my lab and they seem pretty stable
so far.

Thanks

Larry 

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From: Clayton Dukes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PIX 6.2 [7:46454]


Howdy,
Dows anyone know if the PIX 6.2 software is available yet?


Clayton Dukes
Cisco Info Center SE
CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, NCC




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Re: Not only is TR going... [7:46391]

2002-06-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Besides we are being tested on technologies, not products.


Thomas Larus  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I don't think Cisco is primarily concerned with the cost of outfitting
 their own labs with 6500s.  After all, their cost is MUCH lower than the
 list prices. I think Cisco is being considerate of OUR wallets.  This is
the
 same reason they don't have 7200 routers and 7500 routers on the equipment
 list.  These are used widely in the real world, but Cisco wants us to be
 able to learn the material without having access to a $50,000 lab (used
 prices).


 Tim O'Brien  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Theo,
 
  By no means is the 3550 replacing the 6500 in a real world scenario. The
  3550 is an IDF non-chassis switch. The most density you can get is 48
  10/100 ports. However, the IOS structure and layer 3 capabilities allow
 you
  to mimic a lot of the new functionality that you have in the 6500. This
 will
  allow the CCIE lab to contain new technologies such as Private VLANS,
QoS,
  STP enhancements, Voice VLANS, etc... This also gives way to the future
of
  the 6500 running native IOS. So, if you are an expert on the 3550,
chance
  are that you will know your way around a 6500 pretty well.
 
  Tim
  CCIE 9015
 
  p.s. Think of the cost of outfitting the 9 CCIE labs with new 6506's.
With
  RTP having something like 14 racks, I will use 10 as an average since I
 have
  no idea what the other labs have. A simple config on a 6506 with a
  Sup2-MSFC2, a WS-X6348-RJ45V, the necessary software and memory comes to
  $71,000 list price * 90 units = $6,390,000.00! They could throw in a
  WS-C3550-24-EMI for a list price of $4,990.00 and come out with a total
of
  $449,100 with a similar feature set.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:26 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]
 
 
  My bewilderment comes from my previous belief that Cisco, your company,
  was promoting the 6000 and 6500 series switches as the replacement to
the
  5xxx series.  I have recommeded since last August to use the 65xx
because
  of this.  Of course I thought this switch would be on the test!  It is a
  good machine and I like it.  Of course I like Foundry's ServerIrons too
  but for a Cisco Switch, I really do like the 65xx.
 
  IDS is only part of the problem.  The 65xx uses modules.  I thought for
  sure Cisco would want engineers to know about how to configure the
modules
  not only because it increases the value of the engineer but more
  importantly, it is useful in marketing and sales.  Don't you want to
  promote the modules on the 65xxx  They are really expensive and
Cisco
  must make some good money off of them.
 
  The 3550 is what?  Perhaps we can all buy one, I just saw 4 on e-bay,
each
  for under $3000, but doesn't Cisco want to test us off of what many
  enterprises are using?  I was at a Cisco Gold Partner company last year
  and they only recommended the 5xxx and then the 65xx.  Of course many
  customers bought the 29xx but on the test there was the 5xxx-a modular
  switch.  It just doesn't make sense.  It looks too easy.
 
  But hey!  It's your company!  Of course it will be beneficial to me as a
  test-taker to have the 3550.  I am just at a loss as to why Cisco is not
  putting the replacement switch on the test.  Your commments
 
  Theo
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Larry Letterman
  06/13/2002 02:33 PM
 
 
  To: ,
  cc:
  Subject:RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]
 
 
  and why are you so distraught about no IDS..?
  other than the fact we all know your big on security.
 
  Its a basic l2/l3 switch for the lan switching part of
  the R/S lab, not the security lab...
 
 
  Larry Letterman
  Cisco Systems
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:11 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]
 
 
  I don't know about this thing.
  What is the real throughput I wonder.
  It says 24Gbbs switching fabric but I can't find a place where is says
X
  Gbbs throughput
  Has anyone really ever tested one of these puppies?  I would like to
know
  if it can really take a beating without losing packets.
  And this thing can't do IDS!  Why O why did they choose this thing?  How
  about the Content Swiching Module?  Does it have anything like this?  I
am
  looking at the page now and can't see anything promising.  Man was
someone
  sniffing acid when they suggested the switch and it wasn't IDS???
 
  I would like to know if anyone has any experience with this with like 10
  1-gig copper connections, all intensive traffic flows between various
  servers.  I know the 6509 can take the pain without too much trouble.
Can
  

Route Reflectors Peer-Group [7:46464]

2002-06-13 Thread Hunt Lee

Hi,

I have read both BGP 4 Command  Reference + CCNP Building Scable Cisco
Networks, they both state that peer-group and route reflectors are not
compatible to each other.  Yet, when I tried to configure both together...
it seems to work for me   :(  Am I missing something important here?

RouterB#sh ip bgp ne
BGP neighbor is 172.16.0.2,  remote AS 1, internal link
 Index 1, Offset 0, Mask 0x2
  Route-Reflector Client
  group1 peer-group member
  BGP version 4, remote router ID 172.16.0.2
  BGP state = Established, table version = 1, up for 00:28:41
  Last read 00:00:40, hold time is 180, keepalive interval is 60 seconds
  Minimum time between advertisement runs is 5 seconds
  Received 36 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
  Sent 36 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
  Prefix advertised 0, suppressed 0, withdrawn 0
  Connections established 2; dropped 1
  Last reset 00:28:52, due to RR client config change
  0 accepted prefixes consume 0 bytes
  0 history paths consume 0 bytes
Connection state is ESTAB, I/O status: 1, unread input bytes: 0
Local host: 172.16.0.1, Local port: 11003
Foreign host: 172.16.0.2, Foreign port: 179

Enqueued packets for retransmit: 0, input: 0  mis-ordered: 0 (0 bytes)

Event Timers (current time is 0x263A98):
Timer  StartsWakeupsNext
Retrans32  0 0x0
TimeWait0  0 0x0
AckHold31 19 0x0
SendWnd 0  0 0x0
KeepAlive   0  0 0x0
GiveUp  0  0 0x0
PmtuAger0  0 0x0
DeadWait0  0 0x0

iss:  904884479  snduna:  904885079  sndnxt:  904885079 sndwnd:  15785
irs: 3309753480  rcvnxt: 3309754096  rcvwnd:  15769  delrcvwnd:615

SRTT: 310 ms, RTTO: 780 ms, RTV: 80 ms, KRTT: 0 ms
minRTT: 24 ms, maxRTT: 300 ms, ACK hold: 200 ms
Flags: higher precedence, nagle

Datagrams (max data segment is 1460 bytes):
Rcvd: 44 (out of order: 0), with data: 31, total data bytes: 615
Sent: 52 (retransmit: 0), with data: 31, total data bytes: 599


 BGP neighbor is 193.16.0.2,  remote AS 1, internal link
 Index 1, Offset 0, Mask 0x2
  Route-Reflector Client
  group1 peer-group member
  BGP version 4, remote router ID 0.0.0.0
  BGP state = Active, table version = 0
  Last read 00:04:24, hold time is 180, keepalive interval is 60 seconds
  Minimum time between advertisement runs is 5 seconds
  Received 33 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
  Sent 37 messages, 1 notifications, 0 in queue
  Prefix advertised 0, suppressed 0, withdrawn 0
  Connections established 2; dropped 2
  Last reset 00:04:45, due to BGP Notification sent, hold time expired
  0 accepted prefixes consume 0 bytes
  0 history paths consume 0 bytes
  No active TCP connection
RouterB#


Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

--

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WebCentral




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Re: PIX 6.2 [7:46454]

2002-06-13 Thread Clayton Dukes

Cool, thanks :-)

Clayton Dukes
CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, NCC

- Original Message -
From: Roberts, Larry 
To: 'Clayton Dukes' ; 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: PIX 6.2 [7:46454]


 No, but 6.2(1) is :)

 PDM 2.0 is also available. Have both in my lab and they seem pretty stable
 so far.

 Thanks

 Larry

 -Original Message-
 From: Clayton Dukes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:12 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PIX 6.2 [7:46454]


 Howdy,
 Dows anyone know if the PIX 6.2 software is available yet?


 Clayton Dukes
 Cisco Info Center SE
 CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, NCC




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RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]

2002-06-13 Thread Byron Bean

from CCO:

Lab Exam Content and Equipment Changes

CCIE candidates should note changes to the technical content and equipment 
in the lab exam. Effective October 1st, 2002, candidates will no longer be 
tested in the areas of IGRP, Token Ring, Token Ring Switching, or IPX. Note: 
DLSW+ will remain as a protocol that can be tested in the lab. The Catalyst 
5500 switch will be replaced with the Catalyst 3550.


From: Walker, Jim 
Reply-To: Walker, Jim 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 08:34:57 -0400

YES, please do explain what happens after October.

Thanks

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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE home lab [7:46395]


Hi,

Could you explain a bit more what happen after October ?


Thanks

Philip

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To:
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:09 AM
Subject: RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]


  you apparently dont need the token or cat switch
  anymore if you are taking the lab after october...
 
 
  Larry Letterman
  Cisco Systems
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  Wrom: OTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJ
  Hunt Lee
  Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I know that this may have come up many times.  But since I'm about to
start
  preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me 
some
  suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab.
 
  Currently, I have the following:
 
  2 x 1603R
 
  3 x 2501
 
  2 x 2503
 
  2 x 2511
 
  1 x Cat 5000
 
  I'm thinking whether I should get the below:-
 
  2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for 
Token??
I
  really don't know what else I need...
 
  1 x Frame switch - 
 
  1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?)
 
  And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most 
of
  them only had 4MB Flash on the moment...
 
  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thanks
 
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RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]

2002-06-13 Thread Mark Odette II

...if I know vlans and switching, I can setup a 6500 as easy
as a 3500...

This right here is what I think one of the biggest points are with this
change in the LAB.  Cisco doesn't have to waste money on their own LAB
by putting in the 6500, if the same objectives can be proven by the test
taker on the 3550.  After all, it's a Routing and SWITCHING LAB Exam,
not a SECURITY LAB Exam!

Like I said, it's obvious... Cisco is trying to be smarter with their
dollar, just as much as all those companies they try to sell their
high-end equipment to.


-Original Message-
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Larry Letterman
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]

you have some good points
However we have 35 + buildings in our campus and I have
almost as many 3500xls as I do 6509's in my IDF/BDF/Labs.

6500 switches will only prepare you for enterprise work, and
we sell alot of small systems as well to medium business's. My
opinion is if I know vlans and switching, I can setup a 6500 as easy
as a 3500...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:26 AM
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Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


My bewilderment comes from my previous belief that Cisco, your company,
was promoting the 6000 and 6500 series switches as the replacement to
the
5xxx series.  I have recommeded since last August to use the 65xx
because
of this.  Of course I thought this switch would be on the test!  It is a
good machine and I like it.  Of course I like Foundry's ServerIrons too
but for a Cisco Switch, I really do like the 65xx.

IDS is only part of the problem.  The 65xx uses modules.  I thought for
sure Cisco would want engineers to know about how to configure the
modules
not only because it increases the value of the engineer but more
importantly, it is useful in marketing and sales.  Don't you want to
promote the modules on the 65xxx  They are really expensive and
Cisco
must make some good money off of them.

The 3550 is what?  Perhaps we can all buy one, I just saw 4 on e-bay,
each
for under $3000, but doesn't Cisco want to test us off of what many
enterprises are using?  I was at a Cisco Gold Partner company last year
and they only recommended the 5xxx and then the 65xx.  Of course many
customers bought the 29xx but on the test there was the 5xxx-a modular
switch.  It just doesn't make sense.  It looks too easy.

But hey!  It's your company!  Of course it will be beneficial to me as a
test-taker to have the 3550.  I am just at a loss as to why Cisco is not
putting the replacement switch on the test.  Your commments

Theo






Larry Letterman
06/13/2002 02:33 PM


To: ,
cc:
Subject:RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


and why are you so distraught about no IDS..?
other than the fact we all know your big on security.

Its a basic l2/l3 switch for the lan switching part of
the R/S lab, not the security lab...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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I don't know about this thing.
What is the real throughput I wonder.
It says 24Gbbs switching fabric but I can't find a place where is says
X
Gbbs throughput
Has anyone really ever tested one of these puppies?  I would like to
know
if it can really take a beating without losing packets.
And this thing can't do IDS!  Why O why did they choose this thing?  How
about the Content Swiching Module?  Does it have anything like this?  I
am
looking at the page now and can't see anything promising.  Man was
someone
sniffing acid when they suggested the switch and it wasn't IDS???

I would like to know if anyone has any experience with this with like 10
1-gig copper connections, all intensive traffic flows between various
servers.  I know the 6509 can take the pain without too much trouble.
Can
the 3550 really perform

Theo






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Subject:RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


The 3550 running the Enhanced image of IOS is a layer 3 switch with 24
or 48 ports- No need for a Route Module add-on.  You can put an IP on
every single port too from what I understand.

  It more or less can do the same thing as a 6500 - minus any Tel-Co
blades that might be able to be put in the 6500.  Of course, I don't
have any experience with the 6500 series switch, so I don't know what
all you can put in it. :(

Mark

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Re: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]

2002-06-13 Thread Brad Ellis

Because it's a low-price switch that supports:

--(from cisco's website)--
Key Enterprise Features

Allows you to deploy network-wide intelligent services with the simplicity
of traditional LAN switching
Extends a set of Layer 2-to-Layer 4 features in Cisco IOS. Software- IP
routing, QoS, rate limiting, access control lists (ACLs), and multicast
services- to the edge
Simplifies access layer and small backbone deployment with the embedded
Cisco Cluster Management Suite Software
Delivers powerful Gigabit Ethernet connectivity with a full suite of Gigabit
Interface Converter (GBIC) devices
Key Metro Access Benefits

Provides service breadth through high-performance IP routing, 802.1Q
tunneling, advanced QoS, and rate limiting
Delivers service availability and security through Spanning Tree Protocol
enhancements and ACLs
Enables service management through Cisco IE 2100 Series Intelligence Engine
support and Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP)


thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
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 Dream of many 3550s..

 Question:  Maybe I am an Idiot or something but why are they using the
 3550?  I just don't understand.  I thought they shoud use the 6506 or
 something like that not a lower model.  Can someone clarify this point for
 me.

 Theo






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 cc:
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 I'm an idiot.  I see someone else already posted it.

 I'm going to bed then.

 Steve

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  Right from Cisco's mouth:  NO MORE IPX, TOKEN RING, OR CatOS!
 
  CCIE candidates should note changes to the technical content and
 equipment
  in the lab exam. Effective October 1st, 2002, candidates will no longer
 be
  tested in the areas of IGRP, Token Ring, Token Ring Switching, or IPX.
 Note:
  DLSW+ will remain as a protocol that can be tested in the lab. The
 Catalyst
  5500 switch will be replaced with the Catalyst 3550.
 
 
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#18
 
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Re: Training Documents? [7:46298]

2002-06-13 Thread Clayton Dukes

Thanks for the compliment :-)

Running a website is somewhat of a thankless business (ask the Groupstudy
founder), especially when that website is free
I've been collecting study guides for a while, the website has been running
for about 4 years now :-)


Clayton Dukes
CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, NCC

  - Original Message -
  From: John Stamos
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:09 AM
  Subject: Re: Training Documents? [7:46298]


  Thanks, everyone for your great responses!

  Dukes, how on earth did you get so much material?

  John...

Clayton Dukes  wrote:

Ha!
I forgot the most important thing...the url!
Well, we all have our bimbo days I suppose :-)

http://www.gdd.net


Clayton Dukes
CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, NCC

  - Original Message -
  From: Clayton Dukes
  To:
  Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:42 PM
  Subject: Re: Training Documents? [7:46298]
 
 
   Hi John,
  
   I run a website that has exactly what you are looking for.
   Out of the hundred plus training docs/study guides, there's only 1
 that's
   for sale (The Ultimate CCIE Study Guide, $15.95), the rest are free
and
   include Study guides for preparing for Cisco's CCNA, CCDA, CCNP,
CCDP
 and
   CCIE RS and Security.
  
   P.S. The website does require a login, but it's free (I just like
to
 know
   who's playing on my server :-))
  
  
   Good luck!
  
   Clayton Dukes
   CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, NCC
  
   - Original Message -
   From: John Stamos
   To:
   Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:48 PM
   Subject: Training Documents? [7:46298]
  
  
Hi Everyone,
   
I'm new to the list and was wondering if there are any good
websites
  that
offer free training material?
   
Thank you!
   
-John
   
   
   
   
   
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Fw: CCIE home lab [7:46395]

2002-06-13 Thread Dennis Laganiere

I put together a free document with accumulated list wisdom on starting lab
preparation on www.laganiere.net, but just off the top of my head -

1) You only need one terminal server, and the 2511's sell well on ebay, so
I'd keep the better one, and sell the other to raise cash to buy some of the
other things you'll need.

2) If you're planning to take the exam before October, keep the 5k,
otherwise sell it and get an IOS-based switch (as of today).

3) Unless you're planning to take the exam before October, forget the TR
stuff (as of today).

4) You definitly want something with more then four serial ports so you can
do frame

5)  It's great that you have the 2503's, but get an ISDN sim (remember that
you might need NT1's)

6) Max the memory out on the routers and load up the most feature-rich
current IOS you can find.

Voice and ATM can be done on-line cheaply enough.  At that point, you've got
a great pod, and can do most anything.  I'd only suppliment it as you start
doing labs and see that you need specific things.

I hope that helps...

--- Dennis





 - Original Message -
 From: Hunt Lee 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:01 PM
 Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395]


  Hi,
 
  I know that this may have come up many times.  But since I'm about to
 start
  preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me
some
  suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab.
 
  Currently, I have the following:
 
  2 x 1603R
 
  3 x 2501
 
  2 x 2503
 
  2 x 2511
 
  1 x Cat 5000
 
  I'm thinking whether I should get the below:-
 
  2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for
Token??
 I
  really don't know what else I need...
 
  1 x Frame switch - 
 
  1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?)
 
  And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most
of
  them only had 4MB Flash on the moment...
 
  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thanks
 
  --
 
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  WebCentral




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vpn pix to fw-1 (in case someone is interested) [7:46467]

2002-06-13 Thread Herold Heiko

Hi,
in case someone else catches this gotcha.
I finished testing a vpn between a pix 6.1(1) and a fw-1 (nokia ip71, 4.1).
Followed the guide in the cisco site at
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/cp-p.html

Nothing worked initially when trying to open the vpn from the pix inside,
some errors when opening from the ip71 outside.
Then I noticed the ipsec and isakmp timeouts weren't aligned, fixed that.
Still nothing if trying to open the vpn from the pix side, but correct
initialization of the vpn if started from the ip71 side, encryption
happening in fw-1, pix complaing for tcp address spoof for return packets.

Appareantly the pix needed a explicit route to the next hop for the
(private, 192.168) network sitting behind the fw-1, even if that next hop
was the default router anyway. Without that he did not route correctly the
packet to the outside address, did not use the crypto map applied on the
outside interface, no 200$, packet went directly to jail.

With the route for that 192.168 network to its default router everything
worked, even if that network was correctly referenced in the acl used as
crypto map mapname 10 match address acl.

Bye
Heiko

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difference between a Catalyst 2950 and a 3550? [7:46468]

2002-06-13 Thread Sandra Carr

Does anybody know what the difference is between a Catalyst 2950 and a
Catalyst 3550?  I read the product literature but couldn't really pinpoint
what the differences are.  Cisco wouldn't sell them as two different
products if they do the same thing, right???


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Re: Route Reflectors Peer-Group [7:46464]

2002-06-13 Thread Peter van Oene

Route Reflection within peer groups is a common practise.

At 11:26 AM 6/13/2002 -0400, Hunt Lee wrote:
Hi,

I have read both BGP 4 Command  Reference + CCNP Building Scable Cisco
Networks, they both state that peer-group and route reflectors are not
compatible to each other.  Yet, when I tried to configure both together...
it seems to work for me   :(  Am I missing something important here?

RouterB#sh ip bgp ne
BGP neighbor is 172.16.0.2,  remote AS 1, internal link
  Index 1, Offset 0, Mask 0x2
   Route-Reflector Client
   group1 peer-group member
   BGP version 4, remote router ID 172.16.0.2
   BGP state = Established, table version = 1, up for 00:28:41
   Last read 00:00:40, hold time is 180, keepalive interval is 60 seconds
   Minimum time between advertisement runs is 5 seconds
   Received 36 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
   Sent 36 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
   Prefix advertised 0, suppressed 0, withdrawn 0
   Connections established 2; dropped 1
   Last reset 00:28:52, due to RR client config change
   0 accepted prefixes consume 0 bytes
   0 history paths consume 0 bytes
Connection state is ESTAB, I/O status: 1, unread input bytes: 0
Local host: 172.16.0.1, Local port: 11003
Foreign host: 172.16.0.2, Foreign port: 179

Enqueued packets for retransmit: 0, input: 0  mis-ordered: 0 (0 bytes)

Event Timers (current time is 0x263A98):
Timer  StartsWakeupsNext
Retrans32  0 0x0
TimeWait0  0 0x0
AckHold31 19 0x0
SendWnd 0  0 0x0
KeepAlive   0  0 0x0
GiveUp  0  0 0x0
PmtuAger0  0 0x0
DeadWait0  0 0x0

iss:  904884479  snduna:  904885079  sndnxt:  904885079 sndwnd:  15785
irs: 3309753480  rcvnxt: 3309754096  rcvwnd:  15769  delrcvwnd:615

SRTT: 310 ms, RTTO: 780 ms, RTV: 80 ms, KRTT: 0 ms
minRTT: 24 ms, maxRTT: 300 ms, ACK hold: 200 ms
Flags: higher precedence, nagle

Datagrams (max data segment is 1460 bytes):
Rcvd: 44 (out of order: 0), with data: 31, total data bytes: 615
Sent: 52 (retransmit: 0), with data: 31, total data bytes: 599


  BGP neighbor is 193.16.0.2,  remote AS 1, internal link
  Index 1, Offset 0, Mask 0x2
   Route-Reflector Client
   group1 peer-group member
   BGP version 4, remote router ID 0.0.0.0
   BGP state = Active, table version = 0
   Last read 00:04:24, hold time is 180, keepalive interval is 60 seconds
   Minimum time between advertisement runs is 5 seconds
   Received 33 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
   Sent 37 messages, 1 notifications, 0 in queue
   Prefix advertised 0, suppressed 0, withdrawn 0
   Connections established 2; dropped 2
   Last reset 00:04:45, due to BGP Notification sent, hold time expired
   0 accepted prefixes consume 0 bytes
   0 history paths consume 0 bytes
   No active TCP connection
RouterB#


Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: PIX 6.2 [7:46454]

2002-06-13 Thread Wayne Jang

it is
Clayton Dukes  wrote in message
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 Howdy,
 Dows anyone know if the PIX 6.2 software is available yet?


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Re: difference between a Catalyst 2950 and a 3550? [7:46468]

2002-06-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I think the 3550 has faster backplane, more Routing protocols, gig ports for
access devices, HSRP, ACL's, multicast routing.


Sandra Carr  wrote in message
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 Does anybody know what the difference is between a Catalyst 2950 and a
 Catalyst 3550?  I read the product literature but couldn't really pinpoint
 what the differences are.  Cisco wouldn't sell them as two different
 products if they do the same thing, right???




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RE: Cisco Works 2000 [7:46446]

2002-06-13 Thread Jason Owens

IE 6.0

Patrick Donlon wrote:
 
 I've just started to use CW2000 after it had been installed by a
 colleague. I have a Sun workstation and Netscape 4.78, the
 problem
 I have is that Netscape doesn't display all the frames
 sometimes or the
 data in a page. I do have a Windows machine and it does display
 the
 pages but very slowly. What do other people use with CW2000??
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Pat
 
 




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Re: Serial no MAC [7:46429]

2002-06-13 Thread Ashish Nigam

yeah, there's no need for MAC address as such for PPP interfaces.
but what about PPP over ethernet.

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From: timothy thielen 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Serial no MAC [7:46429]


 I would like to revise and extend your answer.  :-)

 A serial interface is not *always* point-to-point.

 The answer actually depends on the Layer 2 protocol you are using.
 If you are using Frame-relay, you have a DLCI mapped to the IP address.
On
 ATM you have a VPI/VCI combo.  On point-to-point (PPP, etc...) the router,
 as Steven said, doesn't need a hardware address, since it is just sending
 and recieving on the interface where there is only one possible recipient,
 so the router only needs to know that the destination is out a specific
 p-t-p serial interface.

 -Tim

 Steven A. Ridder wrote:
 
  point-to-point, so no mac is needed.   There is only one
  recepient.
 
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   When there is no MAC address on serial interface, how the
  packets are
   routing ?
  
  
  
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Re: Route Reflectors Peer-Group [7:46464]

2002-06-13 Thread Stephane LITKOWSKI

I'm using peer-groups with route-reflectors on different Cisco platforms
(2500, 7500, 12000) and it works fine !!

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Hunt Lee  a icrit dans le message de news:
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 Hi,

 I have read both BGP 4 Command  Reference + CCNP Building Scable Cisco
 Networks, they both state that peer-group and route reflectors are not
 compatible to each other.  Yet, when I tried to configure both together...
 it seems to work for me   :(  Am I missing something important here?

 RouterB#sh ip bgp ne
 BGP neighbor is 172.16.0.2,  remote AS 1, internal link
  Index 1, Offset 0, Mask 0x2
   Route-Reflector Client
   group1 peer-group member
   BGP version 4, remote router ID 172.16.0.2
   BGP state = Established, table version = 1, up for 00:28:41
   Last read 00:00:40, hold time is 180, keepalive interval is 60 seconds
   Minimum time between advertisement runs is 5 seconds
   Received 36 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
   Sent 36 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
   Prefix advertised 0, suppressed 0, withdrawn 0
   Connections established 2; dropped 1
   Last reset 00:28:52, due to RR client config change
   0 accepted prefixes consume 0 bytes
   0 history paths consume 0 bytes
 Connection state is ESTAB, I/O status: 1, unread input bytes: 0
 Local host: 172.16.0.1, Local port: 11003
 Foreign host: 172.16.0.2, Foreign port: 179

 Enqueued packets for retransmit: 0, input: 0  mis-ordered: 0 (0 bytes)

 Event Timers (current time is 0x263A98):
 Timer  StartsWakeupsNext
 Retrans32  0 0x0
 TimeWait0  0 0x0
 AckHold31 19 0x0
 SendWnd 0  0 0x0
 KeepAlive   0  0 0x0
 GiveUp  0  0 0x0
 PmtuAger0  0 0x0
 DeadWait0  0 0x0

 iss:  904884479  snduna:  904885079  sndnxt:  904885079 sndwnd:  15785
 irs: 3309753480  rcvnxt: 3309754096  rcvwnd:  15769  delrcvwnd:615

 SRTT: 310 ms, RTTO: 780 ms, RTV: 80 ms, KRTT: 0 ms
 minRTT: 24 ms, maxRTT: 300 ms, ACK hold: 200 ms
 Flags: higher precedence, nagle

 Datagrams (max data segment is 1460 bytes):
 Rcvd: 44 (out of order: 0), with data: 31, total data bytes: 615
 Sent: 52 (retransmit: 0), with data: 31, total data bytes: 599


  BGP neighbor is 193.16.0.2,  remote AS 1, internal link
  Index 1, Offset 0, Mask 0x2
   Route-Reflector Client
   group1 peer-group member
   BGP version 4, remote router ID 0.0.0.0
   BGP state = Active, table version = 0
   Last read 00:04:24, hold time is 180, keepalive interval is 60 seconds
   Minimum time between advertisement runs is 5 seconds
   Received 33 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
   Sent 37 messages, 1 notifications, 0 in queue
   Prefix advertised 0, suppressed 0, withdrawn 0
   Connections established 2; dropped 2
   Last reset 00:04:45, due to BGP Notification sent, hold time expired
   0 accepted prefixes consume 0 bytes
   0 history paths consume 0 bytes
   No active TCP connection
 RouterB#


 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: redundant pri's ?? [7:46203]

2002-06-13 Thread brian kastor

Thanks!!  This is exactly what I was looking for.  I have heard of this, but
I can't always remember the acronyms!!

Thanks again!


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Re: Route Reflectors Peer-Group [7:46464]

2002-06-13 Thread JohnZ

Can you point to the pages where you saw this on BGP 4 command reference. I
couldn't find any thing to that effect. I took the CBCR class and we used
peer groups with Reflectors, it seemed to work fine.
Hunt Lee  wrote in message
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 Hi,

 I have read both BGP 4 Command  Reference + CCNP Building Scable Cisco
 Networks, they both state that peer-group and route reflectors are not
 compatible to each other.  Yet, when I tried to configure both together...
 it seems to work for me   :(  Am I missing something important here?

 RouterB#sh ip bgp ne
 BGP neighbor is 172.16.0.2,  remote AS 1, internal link
  Index 1, Offset 0, Mask 0x2
   Route-Reflector Client
   group1 peer-group member
   BGP version 4, remote router ID 172.16.0.2
   BGP state = Established, table version = 1, up for 00:28:41
   Last read 00:00:40, hold time is 180, keepalive interval is 60 seconds
   Minimum time between advertisement runs is 5 seconds
   Received 36 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
   Sent 36 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
   Prefix advertised 0, suppressed 0, withdrawn 0
   Connections established 2; dropped 1
   Last reset 00:28:52, due to RR client config change
   0 accepted prefixes consume 0 bytes
   0 history paths consume 0 bytes
 Connection state is ESTAB, I/O status: 1, unread input bytes: 0
 Local host: 172.16.0.1, Local port: 11003
 Foreign host: 172.16.0.2, Foreign port: 179

 Enqueued packets for retransmit: 0, input: 0  mis-ordered: 0 (0 bytes)

 Event Timers (current time is 0x263A98):
 Timer  StartsWakeupsNext
 Retrans32  0 0x0
 TimeWait0  0 0x0
 AckHold31 19 0x0
 SendWnd 0  0 0x0
 KeepAlive   0  0 0x0
 GiveUp  0  0 0x0
 PmtuAger0  0 0x0
 DeadWait0  0 0x0

 iss:  904884479  snduna:  904885079  sndnxt:  904885079 sndwnd:  15785
 irs: 3309753480  rcvnxt: 3309754096  rcvwnd:  15769  delrcvwnd:615

 SRTT: 310 ms, RTTO: 780 ms, RTV: 80 ms, KRTT: 0 ms
 minRTT: 24 ms, maxRTT: 300 ms, ACK hold: 200 ms
 Flags: higher precedence, nagle

 Datagrams (max data segment is 1460 bytes):
 Rcvd: 44 (out of order: 0), with data: 31, total data bytes: 615
 Sent: 52 (retransmit: 0), with data: 31, total data bytes: 599


  BGP neighbor is 193.16.0.2,  remote AS 1, internal link
  Index 1, Offset 0, Mask 0x2
   Route-Reflector Client
   group1 peer-group member
   BGP version 4, remote router ID 0.0.0.0
   BGP state = Active, table version = 0
   Last read 00:04:24, hold time is 180, keepalive interval is 60 seconds
   Minimum time between advertisement runs is 5 seconds
   Received 33 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
   Sent 37 messages, 1 notifications, 0 in queue
   Prefix advertised 0, suppressed 0, withdrawn 0
   Connections established 2; dropped 2
   Last reset 00:04:45, due to BGP Notification sent, hold time expired
   0 accepted prefixes consume 0 bytes
   0 history paths consume 0 bytes
   No active TCP connection
 RouterB#


 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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Difference between cat 6000 6500 and 3550 [7:46478]

2002-06-13 Thread JohnZ

I have a cat 6000 at work available for testing. Is there any major
difference (other then backplane capacity) as compared to 3550 or 6500. I
guess I just wanted to know that performance aside, are rest of the IOS
features supported same accross all three platforms. I plan to use it for
CCIE studies.
Thx,
JZ




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1720 with Wic-1enet problems. [7:46479]

2002-06-13 Thread JohnZ

Is Wic-1enet only supported in the 122-2.XJ releases. I tried using later
releases like 122-6f and 122-10a but none of them recognize this WIC. I am
worried if it will be supported in any future releases. Does any one else
have the same experience.
Thanks,
JZ




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RE: Cisco Works 2000 [7:46446]

2002-06-13 Thread John Neiberger

I've noticed that Netscape 4.78 is slow on our very fast Unix server, as
well.  I believe that Netscape 6.0 is available from Sun.  Perhaps you
should try that one to see if they've improved the speed.

 Jason Owens  6/13/02 11:15:13 AM 
IE 6.0

Patrick Donlon wrote:
 
 I've just started to use CW2000 after it had been installed by a
 colleague. I have a Sun workstation and Netscape 4.78, the
 problem
 I have is that Netscape doesn't display all the frames
 sometimes or the
 data in a page. I do have a Windows machine and it does display
 the
 pages but very slowly. What do other people use with CW2000??
 
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: Difference between cat 6000 6500 and 3550 [7:46478]

2002-06-13 Thread Michael L. Williams

Are they using 6x00 switches in the lab?  I thought they were still using
Cat5000s and therefore the CatOS and Set/Show/Clear commands.  If that is
still the case, you wouldn't want to use a 3550 as it uses IOS (config t,
etc).  I know the 6000s and 6500s you can use in Hybrid (CatOS) or Native
(IOS) mode... I believe if you don't specify when you order, you'll get
Hybrid by default..  Just be sure that you're in hybrid and it should be
very much like being on a Cat5000.  If the 6000 happens to be in Native, you
can convert to Hybrid by following these instructions:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/80.shtml

HTH,
Mike W.

JohnZ  wrote in message
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 I have a cat 6000 at work available for testing. Is there any major
 difference (other then backplane capacity) as compared to 3550 or 6500. I
 guess I just wanted to know that performance aside, are rest of the IOS
 features supported same accross all three platforms. I plan to use it for
 CCIE studies.
 Thx,
 JZ




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CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]

2002-06-13 Thread Khalsa Singh

I'm in the middle of buying CCIE Lab Equipment to prepare for CCIE lab, my
question is, do I still have to buy cisco routers with Token Ring interface
to practise DLSW since it is going to be in the lab after Token Ring is
completely out

thanks in advance




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Re: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]

2002-06-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I bet you that the new lab's format/blueprint will resemble the new CCIE
beta's blueprint.  I'm pretty sure the announcement will be made at the
Networkers CCIE power-session in San Diego in 2 weeks.  So, it doesn't sound
easier, but at least the topics are up-to-date.  The only thing I don't like
is that MPLS may be in the new lab, and that's not a technology that's
really taken off yet.  I think Cisco should wait until more of their Cisco
Powered Networks get built.  But it seems that from all the marketing
announcements I have read, interviews with John Chambers, studies and
reports that have come out, that Cisco is really going to focus on getting
the service provider market in the next rebound.  Plus I see all sorts of
positioning with the Hotel/Hospitality arena.  I wonder how Nortel and Avaya
will take it.


nrf  wrote in message
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 Whether this is good or bad news for candidates is difficult to say.  The
 real question is what they are going to replace it with.  I always saw
those
 removed topics as gimme points.  For example now they could start asking
 super-funky voice or ATM questions.  Or they could accelerate the move to
 12.2, which has a host of new complex features.



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  I'm an idiot.  I see someone else already posted it.
 
  I'm going to bed then.
 
  Steve
 
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   Right from Cisco's mouth:  NO MORE IPX, TOKEN RING, OR CatOS!
  
   CCIE candidates should note changes to the technical content and
  equipment
   in the lab exam. Effective October 1st, 2002, candidates will no
longer
 be
   tested in the areas of IGRP, Token Ring, Token Ring Switching, or IPX.
  Note:
   DLSW+ will remain as a protocol that can be tested in the lab. The
  Catalyst
   5500 switch will be replaced with the Catalyst 3550.
  
  
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#18
  
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RE: Route Reflectors Peer-Group [7:46464]

2002-06-13 Thread Lupi, Guy

Hunt is right, on the web they do say that peer groups are not compatible
with route reflectors due to route withdrawal problems, I don't know about
the book.  Here is a link to the website that states it about 3/4 of the way
down the page, I also have no problem running redundant reflectors using
peer groups, and the client routers are not running IBGP with each other,
according to this link that is a requirement.  

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/16.html#A24.0 

*-Original Message-
*From: JohnZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
*Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:47 PM
*To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Subject: Re: Route Reflectors  Peer-Group [7:46464]
*
*
*Can you point to the pages where you saw this on BGP 4 command 
*reference. I
*couldn't find any thing to that effect. I took the CBCR class 
*and we used
*peer groups with Reflectors, it seemed to work fine.
*Hunt Lee  wrote in message
*[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
* Hi,
*
* I have read both BGP 4 Command  Reference + CCNP Building 
*Scable Cisco
* Networks, they both state that peer-group and route 
*reflectors are not
* compatible to each other.  Yet, when I tried to configure 
*both together...
* it seems to work for me   :(  Am I missing something important here?
*
* RouterB#sh ip bgp ne
* BGP neighbor is 172.16.0.2,  remote AS 1, internal link
*  Index 1, Offset 0, Mask 0x2
*   Route-Reflector Client
*   group1 peer-group member
*   BGP version 4, remote router ID 172.16.0.2
*   BGP state = Established, table version = 1, up for 00:28:41
*   Last read 00:00:40, hold time is 180, keepalive interval 
*is 60 seconds
*   Minimum time between advertisement runs is 5 seconds
*   Received 36 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
*   Sent 36 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
*   Prefix advertised 0, suppressed 0, withdrawn 0
*   Connections established 2; dropped 1
*   Last reset 00:28:52, due to RR client config change
*   0 accepted prefixes consume 0 bytes
*   0 history paths consume 0 bytes
* Connection state is ESTAB, I/O status: 1, unread input bytes: 0
* Local host: 172.16.0.1, Local port: 11003
* Foreign host: 172.16.0.2, Foreign port: 179
*
* Enqueued packets for retransmit: 0, input: 0  mis-ordered: 0 
*(0 bytes)
*
* Event Timers (current time is 0x263A98):
* Timer  StartsWakeupsNext
* Retrans32  0 0x0
* TimeWait0  0 0x0
* AckHold31 19 0x0
* SendWnd 0  0 0x0
* KeepAlive   0  0 0x0
* GiveUp  0  0 0x0
* PmtuAger0  0 0x0
* DeadWait0  0 0x0
*
* iss:  904884479  snduna:  904885079  sndnxt:  904885079 
*sndwnd:  15785
* irs: 3309753480  rcvnxt: 3309754096  rcvwnd:  15769  
*delrcvwnd:615
*
* SRTT: 310 ms, RTTO: 780 ms, RTV: 80 ms, KRTT: 0 ms
* minRTT: 24 ms, maxRTT: 300 ms, ACK hold: 200 ms
* Flags: higher precedence, nagle
*
* Datagrams (max data segment is 1460 bytes):
* Rcvd: 44 (out of order: 0), with data: 31, total data bytes: 615
* Sent: 52 (retransmit: 0), with data: 31, total data bytes: 599
*
*
*  BGP neighbor is 193.16.0.2,  remote AS 1, internal link
*  Index 1, Offset 0, Mask 0x2
*   Route-Reflector Client
*   group1 peer-group member
*   BGP version 4, remote router ID 0.0.0.0
*   BGP state = Active, table version = 0
*   Last read 00:04:24, hold time is 180, keepalive interval 
*is 60 seconds
*   Minimum time between advertisement runs is 5 seconds
*   Received 33 messages, 0 notifications, 0 in queue
*   Sent 37 messages, 1 notifications, 0 in queue
*   Prefix advertised 0, suppressed 0, withdrawn 0
*   Connections established 2; dropped 2
*   Last reset 00:04:45, due to BGP Notification sent, hold 
*time expired
*   0 accepted prefixes consume 0 bytes
*   0 history paths consume 0 bytes
*   No active TCP connection
* RouterB#
*
*
* Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
*
* Thanks
*
* --
*
* Hunt Lee
*
* WebCentral
*
*
*
*




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Re: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]

2002-06-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

yes.


Khalsa Singh  wrote in message
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 I'm in the middle of buying CCIE Lab Equipment to prepare for CCIE lab, my
 question is, do I still have to buy cisco routers with Token Ring
interface
 to practise DLSW since it is going to be in the lab after Token Ring is
 completely out

 thanks in advance




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help with vpn and pix [7:46487]

2002-06-13 Thread GEORGE

Hi you all , imp trying to use this config from Cisco web site  
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/pix3000.htmland I has some
questions.
Suppose if my network has for inside address 10.254.2.1 255.255.255.248
Those the vpn ip pool have to be in the same network as the inside
address, because I only have one ip address left to use and would like
tohave other users use the vpn tunnel
Can I use another network like?
10.0.1.0
Which not use internally?
 
This is a diagram of my network
 (10.254.2.2)  (10.254.2.1)/27
 
7513pix--outside
 |
LAN   |
 Network
10.200.0.0 
 
 
 
Now be looking at Cisco example  they have a permit access-list which
includes the inside network and they specify another network with a /24 
mine is /27 do I have to re subnet?
Imp kind of confused.
Help..




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RE: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]

2002-06-13 Thread Moffett, Ryan

DLSW can still be configured and tested without Token Ring.   

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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]


I'm in the middle of buying CCIE Lab Equipment to prepare for CCIE lab, my
question is, do I still have to buy cisco routers with Token Ring interface
to practise DLSW since it is going to be in the lab after Token Ring is
completely out

thanks in advance




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Re: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]

2002-06-13 Thread Khalsa Singh

How is that possible,  do you have a link to a url that explains how to do
it,  if that's possible then I can exclude all the routers that have token
ring interface, I really wanted  to know, since I have made a commitment to
somebody to buy the whole CCIE Lab this saturday

thanks in advance


Khalsa Singh  wrote in message
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 I'm in the middle of buying CCIE Lab Equipment to prepare for CCIE lab, my
 question is, do I still have to buy cisco routers with Token Ring
interface
 to practise DLSW since it is going to be in the lab after Token Ring is
 completely out

 thanks in advance




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Re: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]

2002-06-13 Thread Khalsa Singh

How is that possible,  do you have a link to a url that explains how to do
it,  if that's possible then I can exclude all the routers that have token
ring interface, I really wanted  to know, since I have made a commitment to
somebody to buy the whole CCIE Lab this saturday

thanks in advance


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 DLSW can still be configured and tested without Token Ring.

 -Original Message-
 From: Khalsa Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]


 I'm in the middle of buying CCIE Lab Equipment to prepare for CCIE lab, my
 question is, do I still have to buy cisco routers with Token Ring
interface
 to practise DLSW since it is going to be in the lab after Token Ring is
 completely out

 thanks in advance




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Re: Difference between cat 6000 6500 and 3550 [7:46478]

2002-06-13 Thread JohnZ

As has been mentioned here else where in this group that Cat6000s are in
place in some labsites but also that the new CCIE lab format in October
replaces cat5000s with Cat3550s.
Michael L. Williams  wrote in message
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 Are they using 6x00 switches in the lab?  I thought they were still using
 Cat5000s and therefore the CatOS and Set/Show/Clear commands.  If that is
 still the case, you wouldn't want to use a 3550 as it uses IOS (config t,
 etc).  I know the 6000s and 6500s you can use in Hybrid (CatOS) or Native
 (IOS) mode... I believe if you don't specify when you order, you'll
get
 Hybrid by default..  Just be sure that you're in hybrid and it should
be
 very much like being on a Cat5000.  If the 6000 happens to be in Native,
you
 can convert to Hybrid by following these instructions:

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/80.shtml

 HTH,
 Mike W.

 JohnZ  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I have a cat 6000 at work available for testing. Is there any major
  difference (other then backplane capacity) as compared to 3550 or 6500.
I
  guess I just wanted to know that performance aside, are rest of the IOS
  features supported same accross all three platforms. I plan to use it
for
  CCIE studies.
  Thx,
  JZ




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QA Cisco 3550 Series [7:46492]

2002-06-13 Thread Khalsa Singh




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QA Cisco 3550 Series [7:46493]

2002-06-13 Thread Khalsa Singh

Here is the url, i don't why the url didn't show in my previous post I'm
going to try again

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/cc/pd/si/casi/ca3550/prodlit/c3550_qp.htm




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Not a Tech question (Looking for Charles Riley) [7:46494]

2002-06-13 Thread Mark Lawler

Looking for a guy by the name of CHarles Riley, sometime on this group


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CCIE BETA results???? ANYONE? [7:46495]

2002-06-13 Thread Clark Jason

All,


Has anyone received their results from the BETA exam??? I took the exam
months ago.no results yetjust wondering if anyone had gotten
anything back from cisco yet


Curious,


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Re: Fw: CCIE home lab [7:46395]

2002-06-13 Thread Cisco Nuts

One important question though:

Will Cisco continue to focus on the Cat 5 for the CCNP switching or will 
they do away with it and focus on the CAT3550?

If so, then keeping my CAT5 does not make sense. But then who would buy 
itpaid millions for it :-(

Regards.




From: Dennis Laganiere 
Reply-To: Dennis Laganiere 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fw: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:40:44 -0400

I put together a free document with accumulated list wisdom on starting lab
preparation on www.laganiere.net, but just off the top of my head -

1) You only need one terminal server, and the 2511's sell well on ebay, so
I'd keep the better one, and sell the other to raise cash to buy some of 
the
other things you'll need.

2) If you're planning to take the exam before October, keep the 5k,
otherwise sell it and get an IOS-based switch (as of today).

3) Unless you're planning to take the exam before October, forget the TR
stuff (as of today).

4) You definitly want something with more then four serial ports so you can
do frame

5)  It's great that you have the 2503's, but get an ISDN sim (remember that
you might need NT1's)

6) Max the memory out on the routers and load up the most feature-rich
current IOS you can find.

Voice and ATM can be done on-line cheaply enough.  At that point, you've 
got
a great pod, and can do most anything.  I'd only suppliment it as you start
doing labs and see that you need specific things.

I hope that helps...

--- Dennis




 
  - Original Message -
  From: Hunt Lee
  To:
  Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:01 PM
  Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
 
 
   Hi,
  
   I know that this may have come up many times.  But since I'm about to
  start
   preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me
some
   suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab.
  
   Currently, I have the following:
  
   2 x 1603R
  
   3 x 2501
  
   2 x 2503
  
   2 x 2511
  
   1 x Cat 5000
  
   I'm thinking whether I should get the below:-
  
   2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for
Token??
  I
   really don't know what else I need...
  
   1 x Frame switch - 
  
   1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?)
  
   And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most
of
   them only had 4MB Flash on the moment...
  
   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
  
   Thanks
  
   --
  
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   WebCentral
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RE: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]

2002-06-13 Thread Moffett, Ryan

The following links deal with DLSw and Ethernet, and DLSw topics in general


http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/697/3.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/697/3.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/697/index.shtml
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/697/index.shtml


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From: Khalsa Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]


How is that possible,  do you have a link to a url that explains how to do
it,  if that's possible then I can exclude all the routers that have token
ring interface, I really wanted  to know, since I have made a commitment to
somebody to buy the whole CCIE Lab this saturday

thanks in advance


Khalsa Singh  wrote in message
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 I'm in the middle of buying CCIE Lab Equipment to prepare for CCIE 
 lab, my question is, do I still have to buy cisco routers with Token 
 Ring
interface
 to practise DLSW since it is going to be in the lab after Token Ring 
 is completely out

 thanks in advance




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Re: difference between a Catalyst 2950 and a 3550? [7:46468]

2002-06-13 Thread MADMAN

The 3550 support layer 3 with EMI software and the 3550's are more
powerful higher end switches just beneath the chassis systems.

  Dave

Sandra Carr wrote:
 
 Does anybody know what the difference is between a Catalyst 2950 and a
 Catalyst 3550?  I read the product literature but couldn't really pinpoint
 what the differences are.  Cisco wouldn't sell them as two different
 products if they do the same thing, right???
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Sr. Network Engineer
CCIE# 2016
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RE: End of CCIE Written [7:46445]

2002-06-13 Thread Clark Jason

Hi,

Does you guys have a copy of that official announcement from Cisco? I'd like
to see that. I'm in preparation to take the current one..guess I wanna know
if that is indeed the official word so I can cough up that $300 bux.





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Re: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]

2002-06-13 Thread Khalsa Singh

Thanks Ryan,

I'm confused, so when cisco says, no token ring in the CCIE lab from oct
2002 but DLSW will be there, what does that mean. Should we expect to
configure  DLSW on TR-to-TR network or Eth-to-Eth network or  WAN or both in
the Lab




Khalsa Singh  wrote in message
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 I'm in the middle of buying CCIE Lab Equipment to prepare for CCIE lab, my
 question is, do I still have to buy cisco routers with Token Ring
interface
 to practise DLSW since it is going to be in the lab after Token Ring is
 completely out

 thanks in advance




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RIF? [7:46503]

2002-06-13 Thread Mark Godfrey

I am currently studying how to determine how many switches are in the path
by looking at the RIF field. I know that RCF stand for Route Control Field
and RDF is Route Descriptor Field but what is RIF? Route Information Field?
Sorry for the lame question it's just bugging me. :-0

MG




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RE: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]

2002-06-13 Thread Moffett, Ryan

My take is that while Token Ring will not be there, Ethernet will. And as
such, DLSw is still a subject that can be tested.  If they are removing
Token Ring, then the SRB facets of DLSw are going to be dropped.   


-Original Message-
From: Khalsa Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]


Thanks Ryan,

I'm confused, so when cisco says, no token ring in the CCIE lab from oct
2002 but DLSW will be there, what does that mean. Should we expect to
configure  DLSW on TR-to-TR network or Eth-to-Eth network or  WAN or both in
the Lab




Khalsa Singh  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I'm in the middle of buying CCIE Lab Equipment to prepare for CCIE 
 lab, my question is, do I still have to buy cisco routers with Token 
 Ring
interface
 to practise DLSW since it is going to be in the lab after Token Ring 
 is completely out

 thanks in advance




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RE: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]

2002-06-13 Thread Brian Backer

How about over a WAN link?!?!

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Khalsa Singh
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]

Thanks Ryan,

I'm confused, so when cisco says, no token ring in the CCIE lab from oct
2002 but DLSW will be there, what does that mean. Should we expect to
configure  DLSW on TR-to-TR network or Eth-to-Eth network or  WAN or
both in
the Lab




Khalsa Singh  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I'm in the middle of buying CCIE Lab Equipment to prepare for CCIE
lab, my
 question is, do I still have to buy cisco routers with Token Ring
interface
 to practise DLSW since it is going to be in the lab after Token Ring
is
 completely out

 thanks in advance




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RE: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]

2002-06-13 Thread jeff sicuranza

I recall reading somewhere, maybe this board, that you can create virtual
Token-Ring interfaces. On my 2500/2600 and 4500 series routers I can do the
following:

ROUTER1(config)#int virtual-TokenRing ?
Virtual-TokenRing interface number


Here is an example:

ROUTER4(config)#int virtual-To
ROUTER4(config)#int virtual-TokenRing 1
ROUTER4(config-if)#end
ROUTER4#sh int v
00:10:16: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by consoleir
ROUTER4#sh int virtual-TokenRing 1
Virtual-TokenRing1 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is Virtual-TokenRing, address is 4000..0008 (bia
4000..0008)
  MTU 8136 bytes, BW 16000 Kbit, DLY 5000 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation SNAP, loopback not set
  ARP type: SNAP, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input never, output never, output hang never
  Last clearing of show interface counters never
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue :0/0 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 0 transitions
ROUTER4#

I forgot which IOS version this featured first appeared in. 

But it works in 12.1


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RE: Fw: CCIE home lab [7:46395]

2002-06-13 Thread Mark Odette II

... Because of the fact that the 600 series exam just came out, and the
3550 has only been out roughly since March of this year (don't quote me
on this), I doubt you will see the 3550 even mentioned on the new
switching exam.

Just my .0010 cents

Mark

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Cisco Nuts
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fw: CCIE home lab [7:46395]

One important question though:

Will Cisco continue to focus on the Cat 5 for the CCNP switching or will

they do away with it and focus on the CAT3550?

If so, then keeping my CAT5 does not make sense. But then who would buy 
itpaid millions for it :-(

Regards.




From: Dennis Laganiere 
Reply-To: Dennis Laganiere 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fw: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:40:44 -0400

I put together a free document with accumulated list wisdom on starting
lab
preparation on www.laganiere.net, but just off the top of my head -

1) You only need one terminal server, and the 2511's sell well on ebay,
so
I'd keep the better one, and sell the other to raise cash to buy some
of 
the
other things you'll need.

2) If you're planning to take the exam before October, keep the 5k,
otherwise sell it and get an IOS-based switch (as of today).

3) Unless you're planning to take the exam before October, forget the
TR
stuff (as of today).

4) You definitly want something with more then four serial ports so you
can
do frame

5)  It's great that you have the 2503's, but get an ISDN sim (remember
that
you might need NT1's)

6) Max the memory out on the routers and load up the most feature-rich
current IOS you can find.

Voice and ATM can be done on-line cheaply enough.  At that point,
you've 
got
a great pod, and can do most anything.  I'd only suppliment it as you
start
doing labs and see that you need specific things.

I hope that helps...

--- Dennis




 
  - Original Message -
  From: Hunt Lee
  To:
  Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:01 PM
  Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
 
 
   Hi,
  
   I know that this may have come up many times.  But since I'm about
to
  start
   preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give
me
some
   suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab.
  
   Currently, I have the following:
  
   2 x 1603R
  
   3 x 2501
  
   2 x 2503
  
   2 x 2511
  
   1 x Cat 5000
  
   I'm thinking whether I should get the below:-
  
   2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for
Token??
  I
   really don't know what else I need...
  
   1 x Frame switch - 
  
   1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?)
  
   And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since
most
of
   them only had 4MB Flash on the moment...
  
   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
  
   Thanks
  
   --
  
   Hunt Lee
  
   WebCentral
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OT: The end of Token Ring etc [7:46497]

2002-06-13 Thread Michael Graham

It's just occured to me that with that one announcement Cisco has made all
the
Token Ring stuff sold on Ebay, for various home labs, worthless.and saved
me a pretty penny.

Mike Graham
CCNP, CCDP




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ISDN -- challenge! [7:46496]

2002-06-13 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

Router A and Router B are connected to an Atlas 550 via BRI interfaces

Router A  ATLAS --- ROUTER B

Both router are configured with DDR Dialer maps so that Router A can call
router B or vice-versa (basic stuff).

When Router A is called by Router B, Router A answers normally and the link
goes up, but then (surprisingly), Router A attempts to initiate a connection
to Router B . This connection fails because I only configured the phone
number for one channel (Isdn error 17: User is busy).

Is this calling of Router A a normal behavior? (I don't think so!)

I fixed the problem by simpling removing the phone number from the map
statement of Router A. I am posting here the debug before and after I
removed the phone number on A. The debug where captured on Router A.

I have spent the day on the apparently trivial question: why is Router A
calling Router B when I have no call back of any sort.
Still no light ...  Want to step up to the challenge? :)

Before:

00:32:45: ISDN BR0/0: RX  on B1 at 64 Kb/s
00:32:45: ISDN BR0/0: Event: Accepting the call id 0xD
00:32:193273528320: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0/0:1, changed state to up
01:51:113824615516: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0:1, changed state to up
00:32:45: ISDN BR0/0: TX - CALL_PROC pd = 8  callref = 0x84
00:32:45: Channel ID i = 0x89
00:32:45: ISDN BR0/0: TX - CONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0x84
00:32:45: Channel ID i = 0x89
00:32:45: ISDN BR0/0: RX  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x09
00:32:47: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
00:32:47: Channel ID i = 0x83
00:32:47: Keypad Facility i = '555'
00:32:47: ISDN BR0/0: RX  RELEASE pd = 8  callref = 0x09
00:32:47: ISDN BR0/0: RX  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x0A
00:32:49: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
00:32:49: Channel ID i = 0x83
00:32:49: Keypad Facility i = '555'
00:32:49: ISDN BR0/0: RX  RELEASE pd = 8  callref = 0x0A
00:32:49: ISDN BR0/0: RX  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x0B
00:32:51: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
00:32:51: Channel ID i = 0x83
00:32:51: Keypad Facility i = '555'
00:32:51: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0/0:1 is now connected to  isdn3
00:32:51: ISDN BR0/0: RX  RELEASE pd = 8  callref = 0x0B
00:32:51: ISDN BR0/0: RX  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x0C
00:32:53: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
00:32:53: Channel ID i = 0x83
00:32:53: Keypad Facility i = '555'
00:32:53: ISDN BR0/0: RX  RELEASE pd = 8  callref = 0x0C
00:32:53: ISDN BR0/0: RX  on B1 at 64 Kb/s
00:41:53: ISDN BR0/0: Event: Accepting the call id 0x10
00:41:227633266688: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0/0:1, changed state to up
02:00:14602128: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0:1 is now connected to
5551234
00:41:53: ISDN BR0/0: TX - CALL_PROC pd = 8  callref = 0x85
00:41:53: Channel ID i = 0x89
00:41:53: ISDN BR0/0: TX - CONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0x85
00:41:53: Channel ID i = 0x89
00:41:53: ISDN BR0/0: RX - CONNECT_ACK pd = 8  callref = 0x05..
02:00:37: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BRI0:1, changed
state to up
00:41:56: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BRI0/0:1, changed
state to
up.
02:00:40: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0:1 is now connected to 5551234 isdn1
00:41:59: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0/0:1 is now connected to  isdn3..





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ISDN ....Challenging Problem! [7:46500]

2002-06-13 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

Posted to Cisco Newsgroup at 3:30 on June 13, 2002

Router A and Router B are connected to an Atlas 550 via BRI interfaces

Router A  ATLAS --- ROUTER B

Both router are configured with DDR Dialer maps so that Router A can call
router B or vice-versa (basic stuff).

When Router A is called by Router B, Router A answers normally and the link
goes up, but then (surprisingly), Router A attempts to initiate a connection
to Router B . This connection fails because I only configured the phone
number for one channel (Isdn error 17: User is busy).

Is this calling of Router A a normal behavior? (I don't think so!)

I fixed the problem by simpling removing the phone number from the map
statement of Router A. I am posting here the debug before and after I
removed the phone number on A. The debug where captured on Router A.

I have spent the day on the apparently trivial question: why is Router A
calling Router B when I have no call back of any sort.
Still no light ...  Want to step up to the challenge? :)

Before:

00:32:45: ISDN BR0/0: RX  on B1 at 64 Kb/s
00:32:45: ISDN BR0/0: Event: Accepting the call id 0xD
00:32:193273528320: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0/0:1, changed state to up
01:51:113824615516: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0:1, changed state to up
00:32:45: ISDN BR0/0: TX - CALL_PROC pd = 8  callref = 0x84
00:32:45: Channel ID i = 0x89
00:32:45: ISDN BR0/0: TX - CONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0x84
00:32:45: Channel ID i = 0x89
00:32:45: ISDN BR0/0: RX  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x09
00:32:47: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
00:32:47: Channel ID i = 0x83
00:32:47: Keypad Facility i = '555'
00:32:47: ISDN BR0/0: RX  RELEASE pd = 8  callref = 0x09
00:32:47: ISDN BR0/0: RX  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x0A
00:32:49: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
00:32:49: Channel ID i = 0x83
00:32:49: Keypad Facility i = '555'
00:32:49: ISDN BR0/0: RX  RELEASE pd = 8  callref = 0x0A
00:32:49: ISDN BR0/0: RX  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x0B
00:32:51: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
00:32:51: Channel ID i = 0x83
00:32:51: Keypad Facility i = '555'
00:32:51: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0/0:1 is now connected to  isdn3
00:32:51: ISDN BR0/0: RX  RELEASE pd = 8  callref = 0x0B
00:32:51: ISDN BR0/0: RX  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x0C
00:32:53: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
00:32:53: Channel ID i = 0x83
00:32:53: Keypad Facility i = '555'
00:32:53: ISDN BR0/0: RX  RELEASE pd = 8  callref = 0x0C
00:32:53: ISDN BR0/0: RX  on B1 at 64 Kb/s
00:41:53: ISDN BR0/0: Event: Accepting the call id 0x10
00:41:227633266688: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0/0:1, changed state to up
02:00:14602128: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0:1 is now connected to
5551234
00:41:53: ISDN BR0/0: TX - CALL_PROC pd = 8  callref = 0x85
00:41:53: Channel ID i = 0x89
00:41:53: ISDN BR0/0: TX - CONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0x85
00:41:53: Channel ID i = 0x89
00:41:53: ISDN BR0/0: RX - CONNECT_ACK pd = 8  callref = 0x05..
02:00:37: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BRI0:1, changed
state to up
00:41:56: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BRI0/0:1, changed
state to
up.
02:00:40: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0:1 is now connected to 5551234 isdn1
00:41:59: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0/0:1 is now connected to  isdn3..





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Re: CCIE Lab Exam Changes - Token Ring [7:46481]

2002-06-13 Thread John Kaberna

It will be Ethernet only.  No TR interfaces at al will be in the lab.


Khalsa Singh  wrote in message
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 Thanks Ryan,

 I'm confused, so when cisco says, no token ring in the CCIE lab from oct
 2002 but DLSW will be there, what does that mean. Should we expect to
 configure  DLSW on TR-to-TR network or Eth-to-Eth network or  WAN or both
in
 the Lab




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  I'm in the middle of buying CCIE Lab Equipment to prepare for CCIE lab,
my
  question is, do I still have to buy cisco routers with Token Ring
 interface
  to practise DLSW since it is going to be in the lab after Token Ring is
  completely out
 
  thanks in advance




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3550 alternatives? [7:46510]

2002-06-13 Thread Jeff Barr

Ok with the new news, are there any alternatives to the 3550 switch that
have the same functionality  ie. layer 3, etc. just at a cheaper price?


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Re: Not only is TR going... [7:46391]

2002-06-13 Thread nrf

Thomas Larus  wrote in message
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 I don't think Cisco is primarily concerned with the cost of outfitting
 their own labs with 6500s.  After all, their cost is MUCH lower than the
 list prices. I think Cisco is being considerate of OUR wallets.  This is
the
 same reason they don't have 7200 routers and 7500 routers on the equipment
 list.  These are used widely in the real world, but Cisco wants us to be
 able to learn the material without having access to a $50,000 lab (used
 prices).


Well, I don't know if the concept of real-world should really be invoked
when you're talking about the CCIE.   Even the biggest fans of the program
have to concede that some of the lab-questions are just weird and obscure -
nothing you would ever want to do in the 'real-world'.  .  When you're
talking about throwing 3-4 routing protocols all redistributing amongst each
other, and multiple layer-2 networks, all within only a 6-router setup, to
use the phrase real-world seems a bit inappropriate.




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Re: 3550 alternatives? [7:46510]

2002-06-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

2950 is close.  You can get a 3550 EMI on e-bay for $2750.00, but it's
probably hot, as that's lower than what a gold partner can get one for.

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 Ok with the new news, are there any alternatives to the 3550 switch that
 have the same functionality  ie. layer 3, etc. just at a cheaper price?




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Re: So not one person here knows how to post... [7:46381]

2002-06-13 Thread Gaz

You're just messin' with our minds Kris.

You posted your 4 Cisco items to it yesterday.

How did you do it anyway? I couldn't see how to do it either.
In fact I didn't know it existed until you brought it to light.

Was it just a clever publicity stunt?   :-)

Gaz



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 On For Sale? intresting.




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Re: PIX 6.2 [7:46454]

2002-06-13 Thread Gaz

We put it straight on our production Pix's along with the new PDM (VIPs,
groups etc).
We decided that if we didn't have any faith why should any of our customers,
and we really wanted to play with the Groups anyway.
No problems so far. Must be a month or so now.

Gaz

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 Howdy,
 Dows anyone know if the PIX 6.2 software is available yet?


 Clayton Dukes
 Cisco Info Center SE
 CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, NCC




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RE: 3550 alternatives? [7:46510]

2002-06-13 Thread Brunner Joseph

I dont think so. this can do anything the 2948G_L3 (wire speed layer 3, etc)
and it has the killer layer 2 stuff we all love !

For the price, this thing rocks!


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Re: RIF? [7:46503]

2002-06-13 Thread Clayton Dukes

Routing information field...


Clayton Dukes
CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, NCC


- Original Message -
From: Mark Godfrey 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:41 PM
Subject: RIF? [7:46503]


 I am currently studying how to determine how many switches are in the path
 by looking at the RIF field. I know that RCF stand for Route Control Field
 and RDF is Route Descriptor Field but what is RIF? Route Information
Field?
 Sorry for the lame question it's just bugging me. :-0

 MG




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Re: CCIE BETA results???? ANYONE? [7:46495]

2002-06-13 Thread Michael L. Williams

I haven't heard anything yet either

Mike W.

Clark Jason  wrote in message
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 All,


 Has anyone received their results from the BETA exam??? I took the exam
 months ago.no results yetjust wondering if anyone had gotten
 anything back from cisco yet


 Curious,


 Jason Clark, CCNP
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Re: The end of Token Ring etc [7:46497]

2002-06-13 Thread nrf

Michael Graham  wrote in message
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 It's just occured to me that with that one announcement Cisco has made all
 the
 Token Ring stuff sold on Ebay, for various home labs, worthless.and
saved
 me a pretty penny.

Well, as far as it saving you money, the answer is (as always in the Cisco
world)...it depends.   In particular, it depends on what exactly they are
going to replace all those TR questions with, and we won't know until the
first guinea-pigs try the new lab out in October.  For example, what if the
new lab is really really heavy into voice?  Then everybody with a home-lab
would have to buy voice stuff, which is a hell of a lot more expensive than
TR gear.



 Mike Graham
 CCNP, CCDP




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PIX 501 Upgrade [7:46519]

2002-06-13 Thread Rick

Has anyone upgraded a PIX 501. All of the current 6.x
files all say they require 32meg DRAM and this 501 only has
16meg. The problem I have is I need to upgrade to a 3DES
license and it requires that I load a new image and I don't
want to take a chance with not being able to get the current
releases to work. The funny thing is this came with 6.12 on it.
Rick




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RE: CCIE BETA results???? ANYONE? [7:46495]

2002-06-13 Thread Frank Merrill

Clark Jason wrote:
 
 All,
 
 
 Has anyone received their results from the BETA exam??? I took
 the exam months ago.no results yetjust wondering if
 anyone had gotten anything back from cisco yet
 

Well... as it only ran for three weeks total between April 15 and May 6 it's
just barely two months right now since the start of the Beta.

I got an email from the CCIE program today letting me know that the
information that Pormetric is giving out concerning Pass/Fail is not
accurate as the results have not been analyzed yet, and the 'cut' has not
yet been determined.  It is also stated that the results should be mailed
around the end of this month.

Good Luck!


 
 Curious,
 
 
 Jason Clark, CCNP
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 




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RE: Not only is TR going... [7:46391]

2002-06-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Okay, like I said, it is good for the test taker.Your point is 
accepted.

Theo






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Theo,

By no means is the 3550 replacing the 6500 in a real world scenario. The
3550 is an IDF non-chassis switch. The most density you can get is 48
10/100 ports. However, the IOS structure and layer 3 capabilities allow 
you
to mimic a lot of the new functionality that you have in the 6500. This 
will
allow the CCIE lab to contain new technologies such as Private VLANS, QoS,
STP enhancements, Voice VLANS, etc... This also gives way to the future of
the 6500 running native IOS. So, if you are an expert on the 3550, chance
are that you will know your way around a 6500 pretty well.

Tim
CCIE 9015

p.s. Think of the cost of outfitting the 9 CCIE labs with new 6506's. With
RTP having something like 14 racks, I will use 10 as an average since I 
have
no idea what the other labs have. A simple config on a 6506 with a
Sup2-MSFC2, a WS-X6348-RJ45V, the necessary software and memory comes to
$71,000 list price * 90 units = $6,390,000.00! They could throw in a
WS-C3550-24-EMI for a list price of $4,990.00 and come out with a total of
$449,100 with a similar feature set.


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My bewilderment comes from my previous belief that Cisco, your company,
was promoting the 6000 and 6500 series switches as the replacement to the
5xxx series.  I have recommeded since last August to use the 65xx because
of this.  Of course I thought this switch would be on the test!  It is a
good machine and I like it.  Of course I like Foundry's ServerIrons too
but for a Cisco Switch, I really do like the 65xx.

IDS is only part of the problem.  The 65xx uses modules.  I thought for
sure Cisco would want engineers to know about how to configure the modules
not only because it increases the value of the engineer but more
importantly, it is useful in marketing and sales.  Don't you want to
promote the modules on the 65xxx  They are really expensive and Cisco
must make some good money off of them.

The 3550 is what?  Perhaps we can all buy one, I just saw 4 on e-bay, each
for under $3000, but doesn't Cisco want to test us off of what many
enterprises are using?  I was at a Cisco Gold Partner company last year
and they only recommended the 5xxx and then the 65xx.  Of course many
customers bought the 29xx but on the test there was the 5xxx-a modular
switch.  It just doesn't make sense.  It looks too easy.

But hey!  It's your company!  Of course it will be beneficial to me as a
test-taker to have the 3550.  I am just at a loss as to why Cisco is not
putting the replacement switch on the test.  Your commments

Theo






Larry Letterman
06/13/2002 02:33 PM


To: ,
cc:
Subject:RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


and why are you so distraught about no IDS..?
other than the fact we all know your big on security.

Its a basic l2/l3 switch for the lan switching part of
the R/S lab, not the security lab...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


I don't know about this thing.
What is the real throughput I wonder.
It says 24Gbbs switching fabric but I can't find a place where is says  X
Gbbs throughput
Has anyone really ever tested one of these puppies?  I would like to know
if it can really take a beating without losing packets.
And this thing can't do IDS!  Why O why did they choose this thing?  How
about the Content Swiching Module?  Does it have anything like this?  I am
looking at the page now and can't see anything promising.  Man was someone
sniffing acid when they suggested the switch and it wasn't IDS???

I would like to know if anyone has any experience with this with like 10
1-gig copper connections, all intensive traffic flows between various
servers.  I know the 6509 can take the pain without too much trouble.  Can
the 3550 really perform

Theo






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The 3550 running the Enhanced image of IOS is a layer 3 switch with 24
or 48 ports- No need for a Route Module add-on.  You can put an IP on
every single port too from what I understand.

  It more or less can do the same thing as a 6500 - minus any Tel-Co
blades that might be able to be put in the 6500.  Of 

RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]

2002-06-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yo Mark!  Look at my retort to Larry.  I was talking not only about the 
IDS module but the Content Switching Module as well!

It wasn't as if I was talking about the PIX and VPNs dude.  I was talking 
about modules and the replacement to the 5xxx switch.

Got the point?  I wasn't worried about PIX 506 commands vs PIX 535s but 
rather 65xx commands vs the 3550.

Theo






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...if I know vlans and switching, I can setup a 6500 as easy
as a 3500...

This right here is what I think one of the biggest points are with this
change in the LAB.  Cisco doesn't have to waste money on their own LAB
by putting in the 6500, if the same objectives can be proven by the test
taker on the 3550.  After all, it's a Routing and SWITCHING LAB Exam,
not a SECURITY LAB Exam!

Like I said, it's obvious... Cisco is trying to be smarter with their
dollar, just as much as all those companies they try to sell their
high-end equipment to.


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Larry Letterman
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:16 AM
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you have some good points
However we have 35 + buildings in our campus and I have
almost as many 3500xls as I do 6509's in my IDF/BDF/Labs.

6500 switches will only prepare you for enterprise work, and
we sell alot of small systems as well to medium business's. My
opinion is if I know vlans and switching, I can setup a 6500 as easy
as a 3500...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


My bewilderment comes from my previous belief that Cisco, your company,
was promoting the 6000 and 6500 series switches as the replacement to
the
5xxx series.  I have recommeded since last August to use the 65xx
because
of this.  Of course I thought this switch would be on the test!  It is a
good machine and I like it.  Of course I like Foundry's ServerIrons too
but for a Cisco Switch, I really do like the 65xx.

IDS is only part of the problem.  The 65xx uses modules.  I thought for
sure Cisco would want engineers to know about how to configure the
modules
not only because it increases the value of the engineer but more
importantly, it is useful in marketing and sales.  Don't you want to
promote the modules on the 65xxx  They are really expensive and
Cisco
must make some good money off of them.

The 3550 is what?  Perhaps we can all buy one, I just saw 4 on e-bay,
each
for under $3000, but doesn't Cisco want to test us off of what many
enterprises are using?  I was at a Cisco Gold Partner company last year
and they only recommended the 5xxx and then the 65xx.  Of course many
customers bought the 29xx but on the test there was the 5xxx-a modular
switch.  It just doesn't make sense.  It looks too easy.

But hey!  It's your company!  Of course it will be beneficial to me as a
test-taker to have the 3550.  I am just at a loss as to why Cisco is not
putting the replacement switch on the test.  Your commments

Theo






Larry Letterman
06/13/2002 02:33 PM


To: ,
cc:
Subject:RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


and why are you so distraught about no IDS..?
other than the fact we all know your big on security.

Its a basic l2/l3 switch for the lan switching part of
the R/S lab, not the security lab...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391]


I don't know about this thing.
What is the real throughput I wonder.
It says 24Gbbs switching fabric but I can't find a place where is says
X
Gbbs throughput
Has anyone really ever tested one of these puppies?  I would like to
know
if it can really take a beating without losing packets.
And this thing can't do IDS!  Why O why did they choose this thing?  How
about the Content Swiching Module?  Does it have anything like this?  I
am
looking at the page now and can't see anything promising.  Man was
someone
sniffing acid when they suggested the switch and it wasn't IDS???

I would like to know if anyone has any experience with this with like 10
1-gig copper connections, all intensive traffic flows between various
servers.  I know the 6509 can take the pain without too much trouble.
Can
the 3550 really perform

Theo






Mark Odette II
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