RE: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
I guess I had better stop lurking -- For what it's worth -- I just turned 56 last month -- and have been an attorney/law professor for almost 27 years. I've wanted to get in this field since I saw my first PC in the early 80s -- but first I had to raise my kids and get them started in life. Tomorrow 2/27/01 (or rather today) I'm taking the Support 2.0 exam to complete my CCNP and then onward to the CCIE. During the past 18 months I've obtained the MCSE (nothing to brag about) along with the A+, Network+ certs (also nothing to brag about). I also went out andd purchased 2 2501s and a 2514 and played with "my toys" until I understood everything! However, last summer -- right after the CLSC exam, -- and almost ready for the BCRAN exam -- I got really sick (They told me later that I would not have lasted another month without the surgery!) and had to undergo open heart surgery to replace my aortic valve. So, after recuperating sufficiently, I was determined to pick up and finish my dream. Now, in between cardiac rehab, and my medicine regimen, hopefully I will complete the CCNP in a few hours. As for age, I don't know exactly what the job market is going to hold out for me -- but I'll tell you my transformation from the law to being a "techie" (albeit a newbie of sorts) has been a labor of love. I heartily recommend to any of you out there -- who may be thinking of a second (or third) career -- to follow your dream. You only get one shot at this life -- and if you want something bad enough -- you've got to be willing to sacrifice and work for it. Well enough said . . . . for now!!! Greg Macaulay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff? You contacted the AppleTalk Address Resolution Protocol? Did you get a MAC address back? &;-) Or perhaps you were doing this to guarantee that your own network-layer address is unique. (AARP has that additional purpose that IP ARP doesn't have.) Priscilla At 05:26 PM 2/26/01, Tom Lisa wrote: >Jess: > >Not to worry, I contacted AARP and was assured we can get a "senior >discount" on >blueberries and no-doze so we can compete with these young >whipper-snappers! :) > >Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI >Community College of Southern Nevada >Cisco Regional Networking Academy > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Tom: > > > > You are not alone; I just turned 50 on Thursday and am working on my > CCNA and > > hope to test in June, then go on for my CCNP. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jess > > MCP > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCO practice questions
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/colt/ColtLogin.pl?MODULEID=2467&SUBMIT=Take+Te Check this site out. It's called COLT -- For Cisco OnLine Testing. As you note, you do need CCO access for entry. I used the testing assessment for CIT/Support -- which was very good. Every question was drawn from the Cisco Official Materials -- verbatim. Good luck! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fred Danson Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 2:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCO practice questions Hi, Could anyone give me the directions to get to the practice question section on the Cisco website? I have CCO access, but I can't seem to find the questions. Also, please include directions instead of just a link, I would like to be able to see what else is offered in the section. Thanks in advance, Fred _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Agreement
Oops, finished the CCNp last w/e and haven't yet confirmed the updated agreement. For those dolts among us (I count myself as Primo DOLT!) where do we go to confirm the agreement -- sans flames if you please. Thanks. Greg Macaulay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J Roysdon Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Agreement You'll need to do the latest agreement. You don't have to do it after each test, but if there is a new agreement since the last time, you'll have to. I think there have been two updates in the last year, so I've had to do it 3 times. -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ Cisco resources: http://r2cisco.artoo.net/ ""Circusnuts"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 008601c0a295$0317eba0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:008601c0a295$0317eba0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'm half way through the CCNP test & I wondering about the online = > agreement... do I need to confirm the agreement after each exam ??? I = > show that I accepted the agreement almost 2 years ago when I first took = > the CCNA. > > Thanks > Phil > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Halabi's Internet Routing Architecture 1st/2d eds- Differences?
Hi all, Anyone have any knowledge/opinions as to the substantive differences between Halabi's 1st and 2d editions to his BGP book (Internet Routing Architecture)?? I have the 1st edition and really don't want to waste money -- if the two volumes are fundamentally the same. Any and all opinions welcomed -- including flamers -- if you need to!! Greg Macaulay AARP (lifetime member) certs not listed other professional qualifications also not listed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Halabi's Internet Routing Architecture 1st/2d eds- Differences?
Thanks to all for the input. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lance Hubbard Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Halabi's Internet Routing Architecture 1st/2d eds- Differences? I just finished reading 1st edition. A couple of weeks ago, glossed through the 2nd edition in the bookstore and noticed no major differences except the diagrams were more up to date in terms of the internet backbone bandwidth allocations and NAP placements Cheers, Lance >From: "Greg Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Greg Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Halabi's Internet Routing Architecture 1st/2d eds- Differences? >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:36:06 -0500 > >Hi all, > >Anyone have any knowledge/opinions as to the substantive differences >between >Halabi's 1st and 2d editions to his BGP book (Internet Routing >Architecture)?? I have the 1st edition and really don't want to waste >money -- if the two volumes are fundamentally the same. Any and all >opinions welcomed -- including flamers -- if you need to!! > >Greg Macaulay >AARP (lifetime member) >certs not listed >other professional qualifications also not listed > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Syngress CCDA book (off topic?) [1:2745]
If I were you -- I'd buy the DCN book (Cisco Press) and read it carefully. Also, if you have CCO access, take the COLT tests -- and take them over and over again -- and research any answers you get wrong. I studied for the CCDA for 14 days and took the COLT tests every morning and every night -- and three times yesterday when I took the exam (944). Lastly, review your CCNA material -- at least a day or two. That should do it. Greg Macaulay, MCSE, CCNP, CCDA (newly minted!) (other certs and degrees not listed!) The oldest CCNP/CCDA in the world!!! Lifetime member of AARP Don't mind my bout of bragging -- I'm still euphoric over passing the CCDA in 14 days! I'll be back to normal by tomorrow!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott Robbins Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Syngress CCDA book (off topic?) [1:2745] I know this list is primarily for CCNA, so hope people will excuse my asking the question here. At any rate, looking at various books in the bookstore, the Syngress book seems a little more meaty than the Sybex one by Mr. Lammle. I'm wondering if anyone has used the Syngress book for the CCDA and if so, how did they find it. I figure I'll use that one as the "light reading" and the Cisco Press one as the in depth book. Again, I'm not sure if this is considered off-topic for this list--if it is, then please accept my apologies. TIA Scott Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=1&i=2745&t=2745 -- You are reading GroupStudy's Associate Mailing List. To unsubscribe follow the directions on http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE lab scenarios to trade
Yeah, it's gotta be an April fools departure from reality Something like the November Election in Florida!!! Betcha Mike J. doesn't repeat this missive after April 1st Oh well, into every certification life a little levity should fall!! Greg Macaulay Lifetime member of AARP Oldest CCNP, CCDA in existence!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of mike johnson Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 9:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE lab scenarios to trade hello, Wondering if anyone has any real CCIE lab scenarios to trade? I am scheduled for the CCIE lab in July. I am not too concern with Cisco NDA because I know that most people don't. I am willing to trade with anyone. Mojo. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply
"certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become more knowledgeable. Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous! I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for physicians, accountants, architects, etc. I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry ticket into this career. Individuals who possess these certs should be respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying for and obtaining a cert. But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a mischaracterization. As I put forth above, every academic or professional degree is indeed initially a paper cert -- but with potential. IT folks who obtain these certs by and large have the potential to succeed. Just as there are bright, average and incompetent lawyers, doctors and others, the same would hold true in our field. Some individuals in inately intuitive, without certs, and others -- the majority -- will become the average IT Joe/Jane who work day-to-day in this field. Certainly there will always be the small numbers who are totally incompetent. But it is not because the certs are merely paper. That's my 2 cents. Greg Macaulay, CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Attorney/Law Professor (Retired) Lifetime member of AARP Oldest CCNP/CCDP in existence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The.Rock Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say your 8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean you certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim". _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab Candidate???? [Formerly no subject]
Perhaps I'm missing something (but I am in a bad mood this AM -- and this is my first Flame) -- or maybe you are?? But did you somehow get a waiver from John Chambers personally so you don't have to sit for and pass the CCIE written??? As for being a CCNP, CCDP, it would seem that by this time you would have at least some of the answers to your questions!! Normally, these questions are asked by newbies like CCNA Candidates, or those working towards the CCNP. But by the time one reaches the NP/DP level one would expect at least some familiarization with the process. Have you ever heard of the CCIE Blueprint?? But then again, this is just MY opinion!!!! Greg Macaulay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ravert Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gentlemen: I am a CCDP,CCNP ready to begin study for the R&S lab. Can anyone give us some practical direction as to : 1.) recommendations for formal study ( for ex. CCIE bootcamp) 2.) Is it advisable to have a home lab ? URL to an equipment list ? Insights as to ballpark costs? 3.) Advise from some veterans ? Thanks Brian Ravert _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab Candidate???? [Formerly no subject]
Like I said -- I'm having a bad morning--apologies to all!! GM -Original Message- From: Drew Simonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:34 AM To: Greg Macaulay Cc: Brian Ravert; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Candidate [Formerly no subject] Greg Macaulay wrote: > > Perhaps I'm missing something (but I am in a bad mood this AM -- and this > is my first Flame) -- or maybe you are?? But did you somehow get a waiver > from John Chambers personally so you don't have to sit for and pass the CCIE > written??? I didn't see anywhere where the OP implied that he was exempt from the written exam. I would imagine that study for the lab would also be good preparation for the written exam, wouldn't you? > As for being a CCNP, CCDP, it would seem that by this time you would have at > least some of the answers to your questions!! He only asked 3 questions, and one was a plea for sage advice. I don't think that having a CCNP/DP gives someone insight about the quality of formal lab preparation programs, nor does having such certifications imply knowlege of the benefit of a home lab. On this list it seems to be common knowlege, but this poster seems to be new to the list. Lets put on our friendly faces. >Normally, these questions are > asked by newbies like CCNA Candidates, or those working towards the CCNP. > But by the time one reaches the NP/DP level one would expect at least some > familiarization with the process. > > Have you ever heard of the CCIE Blueprint?? What implies that he hasn't seen the blueprint? His questions aren't answered on the blueprint. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Venting about another employee [was Re: Cisco Certs [7:904]
Bob-- Sorry I missed your reply -- but Baseball season has started -- minor league (commuting between Frederick (MD) Keys and Potomac (Prince William County VA) Cannons -- and my checking on "copyright" and "trademark" issues has to be subordinated to "stats" like RBI, HR ERA etc. and peanuts and soft drinks -- at least till my wife says I can't go to the games anymore!!! In any event, I will try and get to the law library to verify your assertions as to "content" and "Old Guy" references -- i.e. Age Discrimination etc. Now back to paper cert. studying - - - -. . . . Have a great day -- oops, gotta go and get my old age pills so I can stay awake to configure my routers -- and listen to the game. see ya' Greg Macaulay, CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Attorney/Law Professor (Retired) Lifetime member of AARP STILL the Oldest CCNP/CCDP in existence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Vance Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 8:13 AM To: CISCO_GroupStudy List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Venting about another employee [was Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply] What he said. :) I was about to fire off a missive, when I noticed that everything that I wanted to say was contained herein(after, as well :), hereinafter referred to as "content", said content solely the property of Greg, hereinafter referred to, both on and off the "list" (see section 6.2.1, subsection 3.b, paragraph 1) as "Old Guy", said content being wholly derived, thunk up, and maintained by Old Guy. All rights to content remain with Old Guy, with no liability incurred by Old Guy for any misuse, misunderstanding, or misrepresentation of said content. - Tks| BV | Sr. Technical Consultant, SBM, A Gates/Arrow Co. Vox 770-623-3430 11455 Lakefield Dr. Fax 770-623-3429 Duluth, GA 30097-1511 ===== > -Original Message- > From: Greg Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:30 AM > To: The.Rock; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply > > > "certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that > statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject > matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become > more knowledgeable. > > Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually > (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness > to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a > foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a > passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I > assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon > that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but > steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my > certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be > dangerous! > > I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional > degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but > they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, > may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on > the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing > a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the > individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an > expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for > physicians, accountants, architects, etc. > > I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. > Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry > ticket into this career. Individuals who possess these certs should be > respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying for > and obtaining a cert. But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a > mischaracterization. As I put forth above, every academic or professional > degree is indeed initially a paper cert -- but with potential. IT folks who > obtain these certs by and large have the potential to succeed. Just as > there are bright, average and incompetent lawyers, doctors and others, the > same would hold true in our field. Some individuals in inately intuitive, > without certs, and others -- the majority -- will become the average IT > Joe/Jane who work day-to-day in this field. Certainly there will always be > the small numbers who are total
OFF TOPIC -Job Offer without Interview?? [7:2375]
Gd' Day Everyone, I need some input (comments, criticisms, enlightenment, suggestions, etc.) rather quickly. I'm in the DC metro area. Someone grabbed my resume off Monster and called me two weeks ago -- asked NO technical questions -- and basically gave me a brief synopsis of his company -- confirmed my salary requirements -- and said he would "circulate my resume to others in his company" and "if there was interest, he'd get back to me." Last nite -- Friday 4/27 at about 8:00 p.m., he calls again -- asks only if I'm available -- and then says I can report to work on Tuesday 5/1. Again, no technical questions -- simply confirmed my salary requirements -- and simply wanted me to FAX a copy of my certs to him. Nothing else. Then I slowed him down. Asked about benefits, including training, etc. and then asked about the "job" Turns out he has a contract with a Freddie-something? Agency and needs a NP/DP as he put it (CCNP/CCDP) to show up on Tuesday for about 3 mos. Althought he assured me that I would be a PERMANENT employee and he had other projects to put me on after this job was complete. When I pushed questions about the benefits, he offered to have his benefits person call me Monday -- until I suggested that I come to his company offices Monday to "SEE" his site. Now I have to decide whether this is really a suitable position to want to put on my resume, and whether it's really legit. I have serious doubts about someone who would hire an employee over the phone, sight unseen (I could be picking my toes, drinking beer, a fat old redneck! -- I'm not!). If he's willing to hire in such a fashion -- isn't he doing a disservice to his client -- and won't he be just as likely to fire me -- on a whim. Is this a safe job -- am I really going to get paid? What do I say to the client if asked?? I''ve got very bad vibes about this -- but I don't know if my suspicions are justified!!! All replies will be appreciated! Greg Macaulay Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2375&t=2375 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OFF TOPIC -Job Offer without Interview?? [7:2369]
Gd' Day Everyone, I need some input (comments, criticisms, enlightenment, suggestions, etc.) rather quickly. I'm in the DC metro area. Someone grabbed my resume off Monster and called me two weeks ago -- asked NO technical questions -- and basically gave me a brief synopsis of his company -- confirmed my salary requirements -- and said he would "circulate my resume to others in his company" and "if there was interest, he'd get back to me." Last nite -- Friday 4/27 at about 8:00 p.m., he calls again -- asks only if I'm available -- and then says I can report to work on Tuesday 5/1. Again, no technical questions -- simply confirmed my salary requirements -- and simply wanted me to FAX a copy of my certs to him. Nothing else. Then I slowed him down. Asked about benefits, including training, etc. and then asked about the "job" Turns out he has a contract with a Freddie-something? Agency and needs a NP/DP as he put it (CCNP/CCDP) to show up on Tuesday for about 3 mos. Althought he assured me that I would be a PERMANENT employee and he had other projects to put me on after this job was complete. When I pushed questions about the benefits, he offered to have his benefits person call me Monday -- until I suggested that I come to his company offices Monday to "SEE" his site. Now I have to decide whether this is really a suitable position to want to put on my resume, and whether it's really legit. I have serious doubts about someone who would hire an employee over the phone, sight unseen (I could be picking my toes, drinking beer, a fat old redneck! -- I'm not!). If he's willing to hire in such a fashion -- isn't he doing a disservice to his client -- and won't he be just as likely to fire me -- on a whim. Is this a safe job -- am I really going to get paid? What do I say to the client if asked?? I''ve got very bad vibes about this -- but I don't know if my suspicions are justified!!! All replies will be appreciated! Greg Macaulay Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2369&t=2369 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFF TOPIC -Job Offer without Interview?? [7:2369]
Hey Group, Thanks for all the input -- I really do appreciate it. Just to add a few facts to this -- the company that called me -- is a Cisco SILVER partner -- not simply a pure unadulterated head-hunter -- sort of a hybrid (like EIGRP!! ). Of course it goes without saying that -- as one person said -- it's an on-the-job-interview. If I -- or any of the others who report on day 1 aren't acceptable -- then we simply are not there on Day 2. But what does it say about the Silver Partner?? Is this guy honest?? If he fails to properly screen the people he sends to the client -- isn't he -- at the very least -- intellectually dishonest?? And if that's true -- how would he treat his employees?? Would he promise the moon (e.g. oh yeah, paychecks every two weeks) and then not come through?? Who is our loyalty to go towars?? The client -- who we know is being given less than bargained for -- or the guy who's paying for our salary?? I already know the practical answer -- but somewhere in those Cisco books we all study -- I'm sure it also says that we are to have honesty and integrity in our dealings with clients. Doesn't it?? Oh well. . . . Thanks again to all of you for your time in answering. Gerg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth (really!!!) Lifetime member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC -Job Offer without Interview?? [7:2369] I think it would be a mistake to take a job without an in-person interview. I did it once. My boss turned out to be an (expletive deleted). Priscilla At 04:58 AM 4/28/01, you wrote: >Gd' Day Everyone, > >I need some input (comments, criticisms, enlightenment, suggestions, etc.) >rather quickly. I'm in the DC metro area. Someone grabbed my resume off >Monster and called me two weeks ago -- asked NO technical questions -- and >basically gave me a brief synopsis of his company -- cnfirmed my salary >requirements -- and said he would "circulate my resume to others in his >company" and "if there was interest, he'd get back to me." > >Last nite -- Friday 4/27 at about 8:00 p.m., he calls again -- asks only if >I'm available -- and then says I can report to work on Tuesday 5/1. Again, >no technical questions -- simply confirmed my salary requirements -- and >simply wanted me to FAX a copy of my certs to him. Nothing else. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2458&t=2369 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE written and BOSON tests [7:2840]
Scott, You mention the following: >I suggest the new CCIE TCP/IP volume II book by >Cisco Press, and Volume II caslow book. Read and remember! Doyle's CCIE TCP/IP Volume II (Cisco Press) was just released about a week or so ago (Volume I has been around awhile), while the Caslow book doesn't have a Volume II, but does have a 2d edition. Could you clarify which books you are referring to. Thanks. Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth Lifetime member of AARP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2908&t=2840 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDP Book Info request [7:1475]
Rashid, Sorry to differ, but I thought the CCDA -- as well as the CID -- were reasonably fair tests. I know you and others have complained -- but everything that was on my test was contained in the DCN materials -- whether one used the CD version or the book version -- which were 99% verbatim of each other. As for the CID exam -- again everything was in the Cisco Press book -- except StrataCom -- of which there was information contain in the Sybex book. DOn't get blown away by others. Just sit down and read the materials -- twice -- or even three times if necessary -- then go and sit for the exam. Actually, the CID exam for the most part builds on the knowledge you should have been accumulating throughout the CCNA/NP study/exam process -- with questions worded just a bit different. Good luck. Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth Lifetime member of AARP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cisco Kid Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 4:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDP Book Info request [7:1475] I have passed the CCNA/DA and NP exams, to avoid having to re-certify for CCDA, (which was a nightmare), I wish to do the CCDP certification. Anyone got any recommendations on which would be a good book to read for CCDP exam. Thanks Rashid Lohiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] 020 8509 2990 07956 267170 www.pioneer-computers.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2910&t=1475 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Specializations MCNS-Response from Cisco [7:1959]
No -- the security specialization (with one exam) ended in January sometime. Now it's four exams. There are other CCNP specializations like VOIP, and ATM that require only one exam that are still obtainable until May 14. Good luck. Greg Macaulay oldest CCNP/DP on earth lifetime member of AARP retired attorney/law professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Zoltan Nagy Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 5:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Specializations MCNS-Response from Cisco [7:1959] I also got this "template" answer twice when I contacted Cisco through the Certification Tracking System. They ignored my specific question and sent me the same prewritten answer. So I still do not know CCNP+MCNS before May 14th is CCNP+Security or what? > So what exactly are they saying? > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2980&t=1959 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA [7:2971]
Kevin, I'm not sure that you're not still sleepin' -- so to speak I just checked the CCDA and CCDP requirements. You are correct that the CCNA is NOT a prerequisite for the CCDA (I'm too old to recall whether the CCNA WAS ONCE a requirement!!-- but I don't think so!). However, in order to obtain the CCDP designation, you must have the CCNA (not to mention the other reqs.) So, IMHO I don't think that a watering down has occurred. Regards Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Wigle Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDA [7:2971] Dear Group, I guess I've been sleeping again.. It used to be the case that getting CCDA meant that you have passed CCNA and DCN. However looking at CCO, it seems that CCDA is now a one exam cert also - although: CCDA Prerequisites Knowledge and skills to install, configure, and operate small networks. CCNA certification is highly recommended.<- But not required!! Making it easier to get the junior certs I guess. Whether that is a good thing Kevin Wigle FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3216&t=2971 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA [7:2971]
A young 56 and counting!! Will probably be a 57 year-old CCIE!!! They tell me that my Social Security Check will increase substantially if I have a CCIE!! -Original Message- From: Traceroute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:06 PM To: Greg Macaulay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971] how old, just curious??? - Original Message - From: "Greg Macaulay" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:34 AM Subject: RE: CCDA [7:2971] > Kevin, > > I'm not sure that you're not still sleepin' -- so to speak > > I just checked the CCDA and CCDP requirements. You are correct that the > CCNA is NOT a prerequisite for the CCDA (I'm too old to recall whether the > CCNA WAS ONCE a requirement!!-- but I don't think so!). However, in order > to obtain the CCDP designation, you must have the CCNA (not to mention the > other reqs.) > > So, IMHO I don't think that a watering down has occurred. > > Regards > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Kevin Wigle > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCDA [7:2971] > > > Dear Group, > > I guess I've been sleeping again.. > > It used to be the case that getting CCDA meant that you have passed CCNA and > DCN. > > However looking at CCO, it seems that CCDA is now a one exam cert also - > although: > > CCDA Prerequisites > > Knowledge and skills to install, configure, and operate small networks. CCNA > certification is highly recommended. > Making it easier to get the junior certs I guess. Whether that is a good > thing > > > Kevin Wigle > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3261&t=2971 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA [7:2971]
Kevin, I checked the ICRC (Cisco Press Book) and all the Sybex series for (CCNP 1.0) and the CCDA (Cisco Press Book) They all note that the CCNA is required for the CCDP. But they also do not cite any CCNA req. for CCDA. Despite that, I still may be wrong -- which would be a rarity as I am a retired attorney/law professor and we are never wrong. Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken!! (Corny -- and probably not true!) As for your challenge re: my age -- I am certain that the FEderal Age Discrimination Laws must apply on this list However, at 56 -- I strongly suspect that my claim to being the oldest CCNP/DP will survive (What I really would have enjoyed, however, is a claim that I was the YOUNGEST such person -- but that passed me by during the American Civil War or thereabouts!!! I do think I am older than Howard B. -- and he does not have these certs. Altho' the claim is a bit technical, and empty, as Howard, whom I've personally met -- and whose books I've read -- and messages I've reviewed -- is about 10,000 levels smarter than I (or any of us in this field) would ever hope to be!!! But still, even if he's older -- he doesn't have the certs -- so I can legally make the claim to my five minutes of fame!! The only drawback here is that one of my grandsons has passed his CCNA -- at 16 yrs old (yipes). Anyway enuf (I always liked to spell it that way -- to spite the nuns who used to beat me for that) about me and my age. Let's get back to studying and helping each other. Regards Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 2:23 PM To: Greg Macaulay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971] Greg, to my recollection - yes, CCNA was once required to get CCDA. That's what I did "in the beginning". But the easiest way to check is probably to look at the front of many of the older CCxx books - they all had a chapter on certification and what was required. Unfortunately, I don't have one here on site but I own just about all of them. So I'll check later unless someone else has one handy and looks. I just posted that because to me one-exam certs can't really be accepted as anything more than an absolute beginning and I thought that CCNA was good for that. Design is generally considered a more "experienced" occupation and therefore to me CCDA was also ok at needing 2 exams. To me, lowering the CCDA to an one exam cert takes some of the "shine" off of it. Of course since I hold CCNP/CCDP the point for me is moot but back at the "beginning" I thought that CCDA was a "higher" cert than CCNA. Now they're somewhat equal. (again in my opinion) Kevin Wigle p.s. - I can't remember reading you providing any proof of "Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth" care to elaborate??? :-) - Original Message - From: Greg Macaulay To: Kevin Wigle ; Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: RE: CCDA [7:2971] > Kevin, > > I'm not sure that you're not still sleepin' -- so to speak > > I just checked the CCDA and CCDP requirements. You are correct that the > CCNA is NOT a prerequisite for the CCDA (I'm too old to recall whether the > CCNA WAS ONCE a requirement!!-- but I don't think so!). However, in order > to obtain the CCDP designation, you must have the CCNA (not to mention the > other reqs.) > > So, IMHO I don't think that a watering down has occurred. > > Regards > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Kevin Wigle > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCDA [7:2971] > > > Dear Group, > > I guess I've been sleeping again.. > > It used to be the case that getting CCDA meant that you have passed CCNA and > DCN. > > However looking at CCO, it seems that CCDA is now a one exam cert also - > although: > > CCDA Prerequisites > > Knowledge and skills to install, configure, and operate small networks. CCNA > certification is highly recommended. > Making it easier to get the junior certs I guess. Whether that is a good > thing > > > Kevin Wigle > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3262&t=2971 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA [7:2971]
Kevin, Despite your relative youth -- did it ever occur to you that the Syngres/Osborne materials might be WRONG!!! Especially since Priscilla -- as my aging brain recalls -- was once of the authors of the versions of the CCDA exam. Who would know better -- the author (who was then employed by Cisco [I believe] -- or the publisher of IT books?? As this thread takes its last gasp of breath -- I implore you to reconsider whether your statement that a change indeed took place (about a year ago) or whether its more likely that the publisher was in error. gasp . . .gasp . . .gasp Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Wigle Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 10:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971] granted! This thread got started because I thought I was reporting something "new" to the group about certification. At one time Priscilla and the oldest NP/DP had me doubting my own memory about what was required to get CCDA a while back. And now CCO and "newer" books had me wondering also. It seems though that the change probably happened probably a year or so ago. Anyway, I'm happy this thread can die anytime now (as the group heaps applause...) Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "William E. Gragido" To: Sent: Sunday, 06 May, 2001 21:27 Subject: RE: CCDA [7:2971] > I think that most people just take the exams in that order: CCNA first then > the CCDA. I know thats what I did when I took them, it didn't cross my mind > to do it in an other way. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Kevin Wigle > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971] > > > Hey! > > So I'm not loosing it - I was sure that was the case!! > > I can remember answering questions on this list about what you needed to get > CCDA. > > And since Jenny has given me faith again - I have found another book: > > Global Knowledge Certification Press > Syngress/Osborne - CCNP, Cisco Internetwork Troubleshooting 4.0 > Copyright 1999 > ISBN 0-07-211912-8 > > which has a blurb on certification. Right there on page XXIX, table i-2 > > CCDA requires CCNA 1.0 (640-407) and CDS 1.0 (9E0-004) > > yes! > > just like the scene in STNG - "how many lights".. yes - it was 2 exams > not 1 > > > ummm, sorry about that - I got my composure back now - I think. > > But just a minute. there was this old DP/NP who was never > mistaken... > > thanks Jenny! > > Kevin Wigle > > > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, 06 May, 2001 19:42 > Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971] > > > > It takes me by surprise, as I have a brochure from Geotrain (dating from > > about 1998 I think - yeah, I'm a bit of a packrat - I think I can throw it > > out now :-) that states that CCNA certification is a prerequisite for > CCDA. > > At the time, test requirements for the CCDA were CCNA certification and > CDS > > exam #9E0-004. > > CCDP required CCDA certification, ACRC, CLSC, CMTD and CID (or CCDA, > > foundation and CID). > > JMcL > > -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 07/05/2001 > > 09:13 am --- > > > > > > "Priscilla Oppenheimer" @groupstudy.com on 05/05/2001 > > 04:47:53 am > > > > Please respond to "Priscilla Oppenheimer" > > > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > cc: > > > > > > Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971] > > > > > > CCDA never required CCNA. CCDP always has and still does. That takes a lot > > of people by surprise. > > > > I may be one of the older CCDPs!? I used to tell my age in hex, but it has > > letters in it now, so it's not a joke that normal people get. > > > > Priscilla > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3859&t=2971 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDA [7:2971]
Priscilla, Are you throwing the towel in?? I have always held you in extremely high esteem as the CCDA/DP guru -- who knows all about Cisco Design. Now, just because a published -- and only one at that -- at one time made an allegation that the CCNA was a DA prerequisite, you are doubting your own personal knowledge!! Shame, Shame . Stick to your guns. The real question is: What did Cisco say, and when did they say it?? [Not what Syngres said it!!!] Now, I've got to get back to my studies -- before my nap time. Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth Lifetime member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971] At 07:42 PM 5/6/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >It takes me by surprise, as I have a brochure from Geotrain (dating from >about 1998 I think - yeah, I'm a bit of a packrat A packrat or a packet? ;-) I stand corrected. I should have said that for as long as I remember CCDA has not required CCNA. I didn't really start following it until after my book came out in January 1999. (One of the reasons my book is not a cert book!?) Also, my aging memory isn't what it used to be, eh? Priscilla >- I think I can throw it >out now :-) that states that CCNA certification is a prerequisite for CCDA. >At the time, test requirements for the CCDA were CCNA certification and CDS >exam #9E0-004. >CCDP required CCDA certification, ACRC, CLSC, CMTD and CID (or CCDA, >foundation and CID). >JMcL >-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 07/05/2001 >09:13 am --- > > >"Priscilla Oppenheimer" @groupstudy.com on 05/05/2001 >04:47:53 am > >Please respond to "Priscilla Oppenheimer" > >Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >cc: > > >Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971] > > >CCDA never required CCNA. CCDP always has and still does. That takes a lot >of people by surprise. > >I may be one of the older CCDPs!? I used to tell my age in hex, but it has >letters in it now, so it's not a joke that normal people get. > >Priscilla > >At 02:37 PM 5/4/01, Kevin Wigle wrote: > >not sure if you're asking how old the oldest CCNP/CCDP is... (hey Greg!!!) > > > >or how long ago CCDA required CCNA > > > >or how old I am... > > > >I'll assume the second. > > > >I did CCNA/CCDA around Dec 1999/Jan 2000 and I thought CCDA required it > >then. > > > >As for Greg.... > > > >Kevin Wigle > > > >- Original Message - > >From: Traceroute > >To: > >Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:14 PM > >Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971] > > > > > > > how old, just curious??? > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Greg Macaulay" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:34 AM > > > Subject: RE: CCDA [7:2971] > > > > > > > > > > Kevin, > > > > > > > > I'm not sure that you're not still sleepin' -- so to speak > > > > > > > > I just checked the CCDA and CCDP requirements. You are correct that >the > > > > CCNA is NOT a prerequisite for the CCDA (I'm too old to recall >whether > >the > > > > CCNA WAS ONCE a requirement!!-- but I don't think so!). However, in > >order > > > > to obtain the CCDP designation, you must have the CCNA (not to >mention > >the > > > > other reqs.) > > > > > > > > So, IMHO I don't think that a watering down has occurred. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Greg Macaulay > > > > Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth > > > > Lifetime Member of AARP > > > > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf >Of > > > > Kevin Wigle > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:31 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: CCDA [7:2971] > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > I guess I've been sleeping again.. > > > > > > > > It used to be the case that getting CCDA meant that you have passed >CCNA > > > and > > > > DCN. > > > > > > > > How
RE: CCDA [7:2971]
Priscilla-- I know it doesn't matter anymore -- as I just said to Kevin W. I was simply taking time out from CCIe studies to "play" a bit. I certainly didn't intend for any of my words to be taken seriously. I am not an authority on anything! Just ask my grandchildren -- all 7 of them Again -- apologies if my words came across other than with pure humor!!! I'll try and be more careful in the future. Greg Macaulay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA [7:2971] At 02:18 PM 5/9/01, Greg Macaulay wrote: >Kevin, > >Despite your relative youth -- did it ever occur to you that the >Syngres/Osborne materials might be WRONG!!! Especially since Priscilla -- as >my aging brain recalls -- was once of the authors of the versions of the >CCDA exam. Who would know better -- the author (who was then employed by >Cisco [I believe] -- or the publisher of IT books?? I didn't write any version of the CCDA exam. Testing design with multiple-choice questions and oversimplified case studies wasn't my idea! ;-) I wrote the Designing Cisco Networks Version 1.0 class. (I called it Designing Scalable Networks, actually.) It was an HTML-based class for internal Cisco Systems Engineers. It was simplified because the prerequisites to becoming a Cisco SE were already really high and the class didn't need to spell out the details. A lot of the materials were job aids -- charts that SEs could print and carry around in their pocket protectors -- not something that should EVER be asked in a "closed book" multiple-choice test. Somebody else turned my class into the certification program and it took on a life of its own, one that makes me cringe to be honest. Kids are like that. I thought CCDA never required CCNA but really I have no idea whether that's right. It doesn't matter anymore. Priscilla >As this thread takes its last gasp of breath -- I implore you to reconsider >whether your statement that a change indeed took place (about a year ago) or >whether its more likely that the publisher was in error. gasp . . .gasp . . >.gasp > >Greg Macaulay >Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth >Lifetime Member of AARP >Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Kevin Wigle >Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 10:10 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971] > > >granted! > >This thread got started because I thought I was reporting something "new" to >the group about certification. > >At one time Priscilla and the oldest NP/DP had me doubting my own memory >about what was required to get CCDA a while back. And now CCO and "newer" >books had me wondering also. > >It seems though that the change probably happened probably a year or so ago. > >Anyway, I'm happy this thread can die anytime now (as the group >heaps applause...) > >Kevin Wigle > >- Original Message - >From: "William E. Gragido" >To: >Sent: Sunday, 06 May, 2001 21:27 >Subject: RE: CCDA [7:2971] > > > > I think that most people just take the exams in that order: CCNA first >then > > the CCDA. I know thats what I did when I took them, it didn't cross my >mind > > to do it in an other way. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Kevin Wigle > > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:09 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971] > > > > > > Hey! > > > > So I'm not loosing it - I was sure that was the case!! > > > > I can remember answering questions on this list about what you needed to >get > > CCDA. > > > > And since Jenny has given me faith again - I have found another book: > > > > Global Knowledge Certification Press > > Syngress/Osborne - CCNP, Cisco Internetwork Troubleshooting 4.0 > > Copyright 1999 > > ISBN 0-07-211912-8 > > > > which has a blurb on certification. Right there on page XXIX, table i-2 > > > > CCDA requires CCNA 1.0 (640-407) and CDS 1.0 (9E0-004) > > > > yes! > > > > just like the scene in STNG - "how many lights".. yes - it was 2 exams > > not 1 > > > > > > ummm, sorry about that - I got my composure back now - I think. > > > > But just a minute. there was this old DP/NP who was never > > mistaken... > > > > thanks Jenny! > > > > Kevin Wigle > > > > > > > > - Ori
RE: CCDA [7:2971]
Kevin-- My reply was intended to be with humor -- totally!!! If my words did not convey that == I really do apologize I'm no authority on any of this -- I was simply taking time out from my studying to "play" a bit. Again, no harm was intended. I'll try and be more careful with my words in the future. Greg Macaulay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Wigle Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971] Gee, I don't what kind of backlog you have in reading this list but I thought it was agreed that yes it has changed. Another poster confirmed as much in her posting (I'll let you find it in the archives) with information from a different source. Actually that post is farther down this very same email that you forwarded to the list. And I think I can remember that Priscilla commented that that change was before her CCDA time, I could be wrong on that. So, why are you picking on me? I thought things were going along great with just the right amount of humour. Of course if you didn't recognize the humour I apologize. So I guess you're saying that she is wrong also (the other poster of course) .. well so be it if that makes you happy. At least I'm not alone. In retrospect it is becoming far too easy to get into spats on this list. And thank-you for your compliment on my age.. Kevin Wigle ----- Original Message - From: Greg Macaulay To: Kevin Wigle ; Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: RE: CCDA [7:2971] > Kevin, > > Despite your relative youth -- did it ever occur to you that the > Syngres/Osborne materials might be WRONG!!! Especially since Priscilla -- as > my aging brain recalls -- was once of the authors of the versions of the > CCDA exam. Who would know better -- the author (who was then employed by > Cisco [I believe] -- or the publisher of IT books?? > > As this thread takes its last gasp of breath -- I implore you to reconsider > whether your statement that a change indeed took place (about a year ago) or > whether its more likely that the publisher was in error. gasp . . .gasp . FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3889&t=2971 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Books for WAN Switching? [7:4072]
A little late in answering mail -- but here goes anyhow!! I d/l'd a manual from the CCO -- Cisco WAN Switching System Overview. The intro to this manual states: "This publication provides an overview of the operation of the BPX Service Node, IGX, IPX, and associated equipment." I haven't gotten to it yet -- but just scanning it -- and the Cisco Press book mentioned earlier -- I got the impression that it was by and large the same book. In any case, I think it is worth a read! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth Lifetime member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Books for WAN Switching? [7:4072] Check out the Cisco Wan Switch (I think it's called Quick Start). This is one of the better Cisco books I've read. The book is pretty much dedicated to the Telco side of things. I worked for a long hall DSL company, that used MGX's, BPX's, & ATM. This book was perfect for explaining what I knew in practice, but did not understand in theory. All the best Phil PS- Found the ISBN 157870104x - Original Message - From: JP To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: Books for WAN Switching? [7:4072] > Hi, > > Could any of you folks suggest some good books on cisco wan switching (BPX, > GX)? > > Thanks > > JP > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=5607&t=4072 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
Hi, I reluctantly abdicate my claim to being the "oldest" on this list -- but actually my claim was that I was the oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth -- which I hope that I still hold the rights to -- unless of course you get certified!! But it's nice to show these young 'uns a thing or two about older folks being able to (and interested enough to master this area. Keep on truckin' Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] ON age NO, I don't mind, unlike a woman I will reveal that I am 59 years young and still ride a motorcycle, fly my own airplane and water ski. Unfortunately, age is a factor in reflexes, and memory on hesitates to memorize long lists of trivia such as exact router capabilities, number of ports and which ones have a BRI with a "U" interface, "S/T" or both etc. Experience tells us better to know where to look it up, than to rely on rote memory etc. I have several other certifications such as in flying: flight instructor - CFII and Airline Transport Pilot ATP which if flying for a commercial airline retirement is mandatory at age 60. I don't see age as a hindrance when doing Network design or service, a young man may have quicker recall an ability to memorize data for sure - I obtained an FCC radio telephone license in 1960 and still have the formulas burnt in my mind X of L equal 2 pi FL etc. I am working for a large corporation which is now migrating our "hub and spoke" global network towards an IP MPLS mesh. Worked with cisco AGS routers from day one but no certifications were required. May be oldest student on list? Ray Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8097&t=6735 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FW: Number of people passing CCIE [7:35341]
I respectfully must enter my dissent regarding "every lawyer passes the Bar Exam." Actually, each state has different "pass rates" and even individual law schools monitor their graduates "pass rates," both for "bragging rights" as well as a recruitment tool. Moreover, "passing the Bar Exam" has often little to do with the knowledge gained in law school. It DOES have a relationship to learning how to think and analyze -- but not specific knowledge. There are sometimes stories (perhaps "tales") about legal secretaries who took a Bar Review course -- without attending law school -- and "passed" the Bar Exam -- but while not implausible -- I don't have personal knowledge of such a feat! In any event, it would seem that "networking" requires a certain "mindset" accompanied by "logical thinking" (You can't go to step 4 without going through steps 1, 2, and 3). The CCIE lab exam IMHO can be successfully accomplished with enough practice with the IOS and a reasonable understanding of routing theory. However, that being said, without more, even the coveted CCIE is not a guarantee that the holder of the certification is an accomplished internetworking "EXPERT"!!! It merely suggests that the holder of the certification (1) has some fundamental knowledge of theory and practice of networking, and (2) has through discipline and determination successfully undertaken a course of studies in networking. While, I understand the "flames of wrath" will be forthcoming, I would suggest to everyone that the CCIE is merely an apprentice certification -- akin to an intern or resident just out of medical school. Certainly the CCIE holder has a great deal of potential, and based on their success in their studies will be a good candidate for a company to rely on. But absent the knowledge attained by experience in the field to supplement the certification, it is -- by itself -- just an entry ticket into a profession. When I graduated law school and passed the Bar Exam (back during the American Civil War) the rules of my profession permitted me to hand out my business card to any survivors of a plane crash in my back yard. But "permission" is not the same as "competency." Surely, if I had attempted to represent someone in such a situation, I would have been promptly disbarred for incompetency. Similarly, a newly minted CCIE should not seek to undertake major networking tasks without a mentor or someone else to guide them in their initial post-CCIE days. In other words, being a CCIE -- without more -- does not make someone "competent" in all aspects of networking! Caveat: This, of course, is only MHO!!! Take care, Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth (57 on 1/15/02) Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: Number of people passing CCIE [7:35341] Vaguely fitting this thread, I was once giving a protocols seminar at NASA's Kennedy Space Center. During one of my breaks, I eavesdropped at one of the classrooms, where a frustrated lecturer on the Space Shuttle burst out, "this is rocket science, it isn't BGP!" >Hmm... That actually sounds like an LSAT question; Every lawyer passes the >bar exam and every CCIE passes the CCIE lab! > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Jason Graun >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:58 PM >To: 'Michael C. Popovich'; 'McCallum, Robert'; ''Ccielab' (E-mail)' >Subject: RE: Number of people passing CCIE > > >I totally agree. People compare the CCIE lab exam to the Bar Exam but >very lawyer passes the bar exam. Only the cream-of-the-crop pass the >CCIE exam. > >Jason C. Graun CCNP CCDA MCSE >Network Engineering > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of >Michael C. Popovich >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:51 PM >To: McCallum, Robert; 'Ccielab' (E-mail) >Subject: RE: Number of people passing CCIE > >I would say that average is not consistent for an entire month or year. >I would rather be doing this than competing at being a lawyer. :):) > >MP > >-Original Message- >From: McCallum, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:01 PM >To: 'Ccielab' (E-mail) >Subject: Number of people passing CCIE > >I see that, from Saturday, that judging by Chucks number there has been >21 people pass sinc
RE: FW: Number of people passing CCIE [7:35341]
Well, assuming I live long enough (at least until 12/31/02) I plan to claim the title of "newly minted CCIE" and a "newbie" without experience! (although I've got about 28 years as an attorney/law professor) -- and a 8 router lab at home!! Seriously though, I wasn't talking about "experienced" new CCIEs. Rather, I was talking about those who are either like myself -- or have "some experience." Just imagine if you had a surgeon who operated on you just out of med school -- and had "some training," rather than his/her teacher/mentor who had many years of experience!!! Again, tho' it's only MHO!!! Take care, Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth (57 on 1/15/02) Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven A. Ridder Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: Number of people passing CCIE [7:35341] In some circumstances I can agree with you in that a new CCIE can be an apprentice, but I disagree with you in that every newly minted CCIE is just a apprentice. I've seen plenty of old networking people who have been doing it for so long, that they don't learn a ton from getting the CCIE. They already know a lot and the CCIE is more of a badge than a learning experience. I really can't find that many CCIE's with little or no experience, but there are some. I could pass my CCIE and there are some guys I work with who still know stuff that I have no chance of knowing just because they have been working with telecommunications for 30+ years, and they're not even CCNA's. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. ""Greg Macaulay"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I respectfully must enter my dissent regarding "every lawyer passes the Bar > Exam." Actually, each state has different "pass rates" and even individual > law schools monitor their graduates "pass rates," both for "bragging rights" > as well as a recruitment tool. > > Moreover, "passing the Bar Exam" has often little to do with the knowledge > gained in law school. It DOES have a relationship to learning how to think > and analyze -- but not specific knowledge. There are sometimes stories > (perhaps "tales") about legal secretaries who took a Bar Review course -- > without attending law school -- and "passed" the Bar Exam -- but while not > implausible -- I don't have personal knowledge of such a feat! > > In any event, it would seem that "networking" requires a certain "mindset" > accompanied by "logical thinking" (You can't go to step 4 without going > through steps 1, 2, and 3). The CCIE lab exam IMHO can be successfully > accomplished with enough practice with the IOS and a reasonable > understanding of routing theory. > > However, that being said, without more, even the coveted CCIE is not a > guarantee that the holder of the certification is an accomplished > internetworking "EXPERT"!!! It merely suggests that the holder of the > certification (1) has some fundamental knowledge of theory and practice of > networking, and (2) has through discipline and determination successfully > undertaken a course of studies in networking. > > While, I understand the "flames of wrath" will be forthcoming, I would > suggest to everyone that the CCIE is merely an apprentice certification -- > akin to an intern or resident just out of medical school. Certainly the > CCIE holder has a great deal of potential, and based on their success in > their studies will be a good candidate for a company to rely on. But absent > the knowledge attained by experience in the field to supplement the > certification, it is -- by itself -- just an entry ticket into a profession. > > When I graduated law school and passed the Bar Exam (back during the > American Civil War) the rules of my profession permitted me to hand out my > business card to any survivors of a plane crash in my back yard. But > "permission" is not the same as "competency." Surely, if I had attempted to > represent someone in such a situation, I would have been promptly disbarred > for incompetency. > > Similarly, a newly minted CCIE should not seek to undertake major networking > tasks without a mentor or someone else to guide them in their initial > post-CCIE days. In other words, being a CCIE -- without more -- does not > make someone "competent" in all aspects of networking! > > Caveat: This, of course, is only MHO!!! > > Take care, > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime AARP member
AGS+ parts needed! [7:39921]
Hi all, I recently purchased an AGS+ on eBay and unfortunately it was damaged in shipment. Please don't waste BW telling me the shortcomings of the AGS+ over the 2520 series -- I already know that -- but cost was a major factor! Anyway, the area that was damaged was the on/off switch. Also the metal guard around the switch and the back plate. Very simply, the seller did not package the router correctly and left a space between the rear of the router and the side of the box. During shipment, the router probably constantly slid back and forth, with the switch each time hitting against the side of the box and whatever solid object was on the outside. The plates probably can be reshaped with some careful "banging" and "tapping." But the main item is the on/off switch! It has a neck which broke off from the main part of the switch with each part having a part that the other needs for the whole to function. In any event, I have searched the CCO to no avail!! Does anyone have any idea as to how/where I can obtain a replacement switch?? Any and all suggestions will be quite welcome. Thanks to all in advance. Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39921&t=39921 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AGS+ parts needed!+ some advice to others [7:40410]
Paul -- Thanks for the tip. And to the rest of the Group -- don't ignore using an AGS+ for Frame Relay in your home lab. It is a cheap alternative to the 2520 series. Admittedly, I was looking for a money saving option and although it's a bit noisy -- it works. It would be nice if all of us had lotto winnings so we could buy the top of the line. But remember the object here is to get some hands on experience -- it doesn't necessarily mean that we have to go bnakrupt in the process. For me, so far I have nine routers (7-2500 series [incl 2511] and 2-AGS+) + 1 1201 Catalyst. I've spent about $2500-3000. While that's a large sum for many -- take it a piece or two at a time and you'll get there. $200/$300 mo. is a whole lot easier to absrob than all in one chunk. Also it can help to sell the spouse (whether it be husband or wife!!). Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth (57 on 1/15/02) Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Lalonde Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 1:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AGS+ parts needed! [7:39921] Greg, Radio Shack has a handful of ON / OFF toggle switches that will do the job nicely. You may need to shore up the diameter gap between the Radio Shack on/off switch and the hole in the AGS chassis with washers, but it's a nice quick fix. Paul ""Greg Macaulay"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi all, > > I recently purchased an AGS+ on eBay and unfortunately it was damaged in > shipment. Please don't waste BW telling me the shortcomings of the AGS+ > over the 2520 series -- I already know that -- but cost was a major factor! > > Anyway, the area that was damaged was the on/off switch. Also the metal > guard around the switch and the back plate. Very simply, the seller did not > package the router correctly and left a space between the rear of the router > and the side of the box. During shipment, the router probably constantly > slid back and forth, with the switch each time hitting against the side of > the box and whatever solid object was on the outside. The plates probably > can be reshaped with some careful "banging" and "tapping." But the main > item is the on/off switch! > > It has a neck which broke off from the main part of the switch with each > part having a part that the other needs for the whole to function. > > In any event, I have searched the CCO to no avail!! Does anyone have any > idea as to how/where I can obtain a replacement switch?? Any and all > suggestions will be quite welcome. > > Thanks to all in advance. > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime AARP member > Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=40410&t=40410 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: COLT [7:10963]
Hey Phil -- I gotta tell ya' -- I heartily disagree with your in depthy assessment of the COLT exams. (1) They were free! (2) They were from Cisco! (3) Some of the questions appeared on the actual exams (thus from the same database)! Every study aid helps! Take care -- and have a good day (before you flame me!) Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: COLT [7:10963] Am I the only one who does not miss the Colt exams !!! I thought they sucked ??? Phil - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 5:48 AM Subject: COLT [7:10963] > Please can somebody help? > S.O.S > THANKS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=11129&t=10963 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713]
Heads Up!! Cisco just announced that they are going to a one-day lab effective October 1, 2001. Anyone who is already scheduled for the two-day lab keeps their date. All others get a one-day lab. Thus, the scheduling dates for the lab should open up! Hopefully! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Bailey Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] I think it's hit or miss on anything sooner than March 2002. Basically, I think you can 'luck out' if you happen to search for dates at the same time someone may be cancelling and re-scheduling or trying to swap a date. I scheduled mine last week and came up with an available date during this month. Needless to say, I took a date from next March instead :) ""Jaspreet Bhatia"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Guys, > Does anyone know what is the current wait time for the R/S > lab in San Jose . > > Jaspreet Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=12741&t=12713 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713]
Chuck --- Do you really think the CCIE is finished?? I hope you are wrong! We've all invested so many hundreds of hours of blood, sweat, tears and Money to get to this point!! I read Cisco's explanation today -- and hopefully their new lab will simply economize on time -- not on expertise. Say a prayer! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] I'm willing to part with my December 3 date for a nominal fee. Chuck betting that once the one day lab takes effect, the value of the CCIE will plummet ;-> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of EA Louie Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:12 PM Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > I just scheduled the lab today and the earliest date available was > 3/8/2002. But I took that spot. :-) not true, the earliest date was today ;-) then one on 8/7 and another on 8/17 (heheheheh) > > John > > >>> "Jaspreet Bhatia" 7/17/01 2:40:18 PM >>> > Guys, > Does anyone know what is the current wait time for the > R/S > lab in San Jose . > > Jaspreet _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=12743&t=12713 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab Remote (was RE: Current Wait time on the lab) [7:12747]
Certainly not! Altho' the title is a bit catchy "Sylvan CCIE" I recall many years ago when there were advertisements for a law school in Chicgo (I think) on match book covers!! And one could self-study! Instead of picking that EASY route -- I subjected myself to 3 years of drudgery, hard-work and the Bar Exam (not to mention my later graduate law degrees). Just think I couldda' been a "match cover lawyer." Actually, my moaning and groaning was directed more at the wave of pessimism that is now sweeping over thie list becuase of these changes. Chuck L's message is simply a sample of what many of feeling. However, I really don't think all is lost -- yet! Hopefully, someone will think of a solution -- but in the meantime -- it is hard enough for all of us to sit down night after night and plow through these books and manuals -- and type obscure commands -- when we could be sitting in front of our large-screen TVs watching summer reruns and drinking iced tea (or whatever). Motivation, determination and discipline are what has kept me going -- and I assume many others are in the same frame of mind. Pessimism simply robs us of some of the strength and resolve that we need to keep on learning (or is it truckin'???)!!! Many of us get our strength and resolve from others on this list that are working as hard as we all are. We need to keep a positive attitude. OK -- that's my .02 and my final answer!!! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: Brian Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 9:35 PM To: Greg Macaulay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Lab Remote (was RE: Current Wait time on the lab) Greg, It won't matter if there isn't a waiting list if the CCIE certification has lost it's value. The one-day lab is the first step to start running the lab remote from testing centers like Sylvan. I don't think that you want to be known as a "Sylvan CCIE" do you? Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640 5G Networks, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is an excert from an e-mail I sent on the ccielab mailing list today: I think that we all know that someone could make an extremely hard one day lab that fails 99% of the candidates but that isn't the issue. There are a couple issues with remote labs and the shortening of the waiting list. One issue is that with the short waiting list people are going to be able to take the lab over and over again enabling the CCIE lab exams to become common knowledge just like the CCIE written is today. It'll be simpler for someone to just take the lab over and over again then it would to actually study. Cisco needs to put safeguards in that don't allow people take the test to often to solve this problem and I don't mean a weak solution like the 20 points on day one. I bet the average CCNP could get 20 points on day one. Having a long waiting list enables candidates to prepare and study for the lab and is part of the becoming a CCIE. Becoming a CCIE isn't something that you do overnight and should not be able to attempt every 30 days. Another issue is the problem with Sylvan testing centers that don't enforce Sylvan's policies and Sylvan centers that aren't on the up-and-up. This problem speaks for itself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg Macaulay Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] Chuck --- Do you really think the CCIE is finished?? I hope you are wrong! We've all invested so many hundreds of hours of blood, sweat, tears and Money to get to this point!! I read Cisco's explanation today -- and hopefully their new lab will simply economize on time -- not on expertise. Say a prayer! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] I'm willing to part with my December 3 date for a nominal fee. Chuck betting that once the one day lab takes effect, the value of the CCIE will plummet ;-> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of EA Louie Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:12 PM Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > I just scheduled the lab today and the earliest date available was > 3/8/2002. But I took that spot. :-) not true, the earliest date was today ;-) then one on 8/7 and a
RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12988]
Perhaps -- you may be correct -- however, it is also possible that there are other justifiable reasons for the change and that the restructuring will be as arduous and thorough as the original lab. My read on what they are saying -- is that many of the fundamental tasks (static routes etc) we should have mastered (or at least familiarized ourselves with) during the CCNA/CCNP. However, I would be that while those tasks will no longer be graded -- you would still need a mastery of those basics to be able to proceed with the tasks required of a one-day lab (Hopefully!!!). Certainly the complexities of the more advanced tasks will assume a strong understanding of the basics. But we'll see!!! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ciaron Gogarty Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12975] I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's actually taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the format... Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for seperating the weed from the chaff?? In the end, the market will get swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world experience and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE went.. thats my two cents -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12943] thanks I read this after an all night work session - half asleep -Original Message- From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] I think u should read the article more closely ;-) -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] This is what I received from a colleague. Is this true? http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=12988&t=12988 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New format for CCIE exams (written qualificati [7:12364]
Has anyone got an opinion on the ccbootcamp notes for the written? How comprehensive are they?? How many pages? etc. ANy feedback would be appreciated. Actually I have a friend (now a CCIE) who said he used on these notes (and nothing else) and passed on the first try. I wonder if this actually might be true -- especially for those who have just completed the CCNP -- a lot of the suggested books and resources I used on my journey through the CCNP -- thus - perhaps such reading is simply a review?? Of course those who are going straight to the CCIE (without the CCNP) or who have been away from their studies for awhile -- probably would do good to review Halabi, Doyle and their compatriots! Anyway -- still awaiting -- with bated breath -- comments, criticisms etc. on ccbootcamp written notes. Thanks in advance. Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Laganiere Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 6:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New format for CCIE exams (written qualification) [7:12364] Here is my advice to anyone who is even considering the CCIE track in the near future: The current exam is fairly well document; there are books, papers, websites, and of course, the boson exams. The new exam is just that, a new exam full of unknowns. I'm sure it too will become well researched, but for the first six months everyone is going to be in uncharted waters with no map to get to shore. As someone who took the CCNP exams when they were first offered, I know what it's like to sail without a map, trust me. In its statement Cisco says that those who pass the existing exam will not be required to redo the written. If I were even planning to jump on the written in the next year, my recommendation would be to take advantage of this time window to cram my brain full and take the current exam while you can. There should be plenty of time to take a hack at this before the beta exam period finished on the new test. If you need help finding the right materials to study; just look in the archives. Grab a couple of the study guides, buy the notes from ccbootcamp, download the bosons, and absolutely analyze the archives of this group like it's the Rosetta stone. Just my $.02 -Original Message- From: Ray Lovett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New format for CCIE exams (written qualification) [7:12364] Hi Group, Reading about the changes in store for the CCIE program I have a question. The following sentence suggests that the CCIE written exam will change as well, that much is clear but what I don't understand is how and when the written will change. Will the exam still be 100 multiple choice questions with a two-hour time limit or will you now have to cable some gear and produce an addressing plan/diagram? Also, does the new qualification exam begin on October 1 as well? " The new CCIE format will move these basic tasks into an extended qualification exam and Cisco's other certifications, thus freeing the candidate's time for the more advanced CCIE skills." Maybe I'm missing something but I could use a little clarity on this one. Thanks, Ray -- Ray Lovett Network Engineer The Richards Group Dallas . Texas . 75231 === p : 214 . 891 . 5841 f : 214 . 891 . 3556 e : [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=12985&t=12364 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
Hi all, I need some assistance with setting up my 2501 with my cable modem. I know I'm missing something very obvious -- but attribute my oversight to my age! (1) I configured the e0 port with ip address dhcp. (2) I connected the cat5 cable from the cable modem to the e0 port. (3) Now I know I need to connect the router to my hub -- but how?? -- since there is only (1) ethernet port on a 2501?? Do I need a 2514 (or some other router that has more than one ethernet port? Again -- I know I'm missing the obvious -- but any help (with or without flaming would be appreciated! -- Besides we old folks don't "burn" well!) Thanks to all, Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13626&t=13626 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
Allen -- Perhaps I was not clear -- I have a 10 Base T Transceiver for the AUI port. That's how I connected the cable modem to the port with the cat5 cable (RJ45). The question remains -- how do I connect from the router to the hub? Thanks, Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:53 PM To: Greg Macaulay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] Get a 10 Base T Transceiver for the AUI port ;) I think someone was selling 5 of them on here the other day for like $5-15...not sure how much but it was cheap. Allen - Original Message - From: "Greg Macaulay" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 4:49 PM Subject: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > Hi all, > > I need some assistance with setting up my 2501 with my cable modem. I know > I'm missing something very obvious -- but attribute my oversight to my age! > > (1) I configured the e0 port with ip address dhcp. > > (2) I connected the cat5 cable from the cable modem to the e0 port. > > (3) Now I know I need to connect the router to my hub -- but how?? -- since > there is only (1) ethernet port on a 2501?? Do I need a 2514 (or some other > router that has more than one ethernet port? > > Again -- I know I'm missing the obvious -- but any help (with or without > flaming would be appreciated! -- Besides we old folks don't "burn" well!) > > Thanks to all, > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13637&t=13626 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
Darren -- I don't think that will work -- but I think about it -- and let you know tomorrow in the a.m. Thanks. Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: Darren S. Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:17 PM To: Greg Macaulay Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] Why not connect the cable modem and the router to the hub? D. At 06:16 PM 7/24/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Allen -- > >Perhaps I was not clear -- > >I have a 10 Base T Transceiver for the AUI port. That's how I connected the >cable modem to the port with the cat5 cable (RJ45). > >The question remains -- how do I connect from the router to the hub? > >Thanks, > >Greg Macaulay >Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth >Lifetime Member of AARP >Retired Attorney/Law Professor > >-Original Message- >From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:53 PM >To: Greg Macaulay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > >Get a 10 Base T Transceiver for the AUI port ;) > >I think someone was selling 5 of them on here the other day for like >$5-15...not sure how much but it was cheap. > >Allen > >- Original Message - >From: "Greg Macaulay" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 4:49 PM >Subject: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > >> Hi all, >> >> I need some assistance with setting up my 2501 with my cable modem. I >know >> I'm missing something very obvious -- but attribute my oversight to my >age! >> >> (1) I configured the e0 port with ip address dhcp. >> >> (2) I connected the cat5 cable from the cable modem to the e0 port. >> >> (3) Now I know I need to connect the router to my hub -- but how?? -- >since >> there is only (1) ethernet port on a 2501?? Do I need a 2514 (or some >other >> router that has more than one ethernet port? >> >> Again -- I know I'm missing the obvious -- but any help (with or without >> flaming would be appreciated! -- Besides we old folks don't "burn" well!) >> >> Thanks to all, >> >> Greg Macaulay >> Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth >> Lifetime Member of AARP >> Retired Attorney/Law Professor x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx Darren S. Crawford Network Systems Consultant Lucent Technologies - Sacramento email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] page via email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pager: 800-467-1467 "You always have time for things you put first" - Tucker Resources x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13654&t=13626 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
Jason -- Thanks -- but I already have a transceiver on the eithernet port -- that's how I connected the cable modem to the router (cat5 -- rj45). Thanks for trying tho' Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: Jason Kinney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:05 PM To: 'Greg Macaulay' Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] You can use a 10 BaseT transceiver (MAU) on the AUI port to add an additional Ethernet port. The last time I purchased one it cost about $25. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg Macaulay Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] Hi all, I need some assistance with setting up my 2501 with my cable modem. I know I'm missing something very obvious -- but attribute my oversight to my age! (1) I configured the e0 port with ip address dhcp. (2) I connected the cat5 cable from the cable modem to the e0 port. (3) Now I know I need to connect the router to my hub -- but how?? -- since there is only (1) ethernet port on a 2501?? Do I need a 2514 (or some other router that has more than one ethernet port? Again -- I know I'm missing the obvious -- but any help (with or without flaming would be appreciated! -- Besides we old folks don't "burn" well!) Thanks to all, Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13655&t=13626 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
Curtis -- Thanks -- I assumed that I would need the 2514 -- (2 ethernet ports) -- which I have! As far as configuring DHCP on the router -- I noticed that the PC that I have attached to the cablemodem at present -- is configured to have a DHCP server provide an ip address -- which is renewed with a different address every three days (Road Runner). So I would think that since the Road Runner cablemodem will be attached to the e0 port -- that it will need to have an address assigned to it from Road Runner -- thus why I would set it up with as a dhcp client. I would also need to configure NAT for the PCs in my network -- I think! Does this make sense?? Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: Curtis Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:07 PM To: Greg Macaulay Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] Greg, You definitely need a router that has tow ethernet ports as the cable modem interfaces to ethernet and you will need ethernet to go to either a hub or switch (if you have more than one system) or to your system. You shouldn;t need to configure DHCP on the Cisco router as the cable modem should be functioning as a DHCP client if your ISP uses dynamic client config. You may want to configure the Cisco router to function as a DHCP server though.. (check IOS versions that may support this). Good Luck, Curtis - Original Message - From: "Greg Macaulay" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:49 PM Subject: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > Hi all, > > I need some assistance with setting up my 2501 with my cable modem. I know > I'm missing something very obvious -- but attribute my oversight to my age! > > (1) I configured the e0 port with ip address dhcp. > > (2) I connected the cat5 cable from the cable modem to the e0 port. > > (3) Now I know I need to connect the router to my hub -- but how?? -- since > there is only (1) ethernet port on a 2501?? Do I need a 2514 (or some other > router that has more than one ethernet port? > > Again -- I know I'm missing the obvious -- but any help (with or without > flaming would be appreciated! -- Besides we old folks don't "burn" well!) > > Thanks to all, > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13671&t=13626 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
Phil -- I think you are correct as to the model of router I need. I have (as I noted in my first message) a 2514 -- so I'll have to make the switch. The only problem I have right now is that I only have 4mb RAM and 8 mb Flash on the 2514. I need to upgrade that to be able to use the IOS 12.2 which has the DHCP commands. Query: My 2501 has 16mb RAM and 16 Mb flash. Can I pop the boxes open and switch with the 2514?? Thanks for your input. Greg -Original Message- From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:28 PM To: Greg Macaulay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] Greg- you need a dual Ethernet router. Your 2501 is great for a T-1 or Frame-Relay, but what you need here is multiple LAN interfaces. I would suggest either the 25xx version, 1605R (if I remember my models correctly), or the 3101 (of the 3000 series routers). All have dual Ethernet & IP versions beyond 11.3(T) have PAT (or NAT overload functions). DHCP "out" started somewhere in 12.1 All the best Phil - Original Message ----- From: "Greg Macaulay" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > Allen -- > > Perhaps I was not clear -- > > I have a 10 Base T Transceiver for the AUI port. That's how I connected the > cable modem to the port with the cat5 cable (RJ45). > > The question remains -- how do I connect from the router to the hub? > > Thanks, > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > -Original Message----- > From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:53 PM > To: Greg Macaulay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > > Get a 10 Base T Transceiver for the AUI port ;) > > I think someone was selling 5 of them on here the other day for like > $5-15...not sure how much but it was cheap. > > Allen > > - Original Message - > From: "Greg Macaulay" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 4:49 PM > Subject: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > > > Hi all, > > > > I need some assistance with setting up my 2501 with my cable modem. I > know > > I'm missing something very obvious -- but attribute my oversight to my > age! > > > > (1) I configured the e0 port with ip address dhcp. > > > > (2) I connected the cat5 cable from the cable modem to the e0 port. > > > > (3) Now I know I need to connect the router to my hub -- but how?? -- > since > > there is only (1) ethernet port on a 2501?? Do I need a 2514 (or some > other > > router that has more than one ethernet port? > > > > Again -- I know I'm missing the obvious -- but any help (with or without > > flaming would be appreciated! -- Besides we old folks don't "burn" well!) > > > > Thanks to all, > > > > Greg Macaulay > > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > > Lifetime Member of AARP > > Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13673&t=13626 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
Thanks Michael -- I needed that -- now where do I go to get certified by Linksys??? Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ayers, Michael Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] Linksys makes a way cool option for this :) -Original Message- From: Jason Kinney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] Can't you use a 10BaseT Transceiver in the AUI port? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Allen May Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] Ya know whatnever mind...just looked up 2501 and it's 2 serial ports & and AUI. My bad. - Original Message - From: "Greg Macaulay" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 4:49 PM Subject: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > Hi all, > > I need some assistance with setting up my 2501 with my cable modem. I know > I'm missing something very obvious -- but attribute my oversight to my age! > > (1) I configured the e0 port with ip address dhcp. > > (2) I connected the cat5 cable from the cable modem to the e0 port. > > (3) Now I know I need to connect the router to my hub -- but how?? -- since > there is only (1) ethernet port on a 2501?? Do I need a 2514 (or some other > router that has more than one ethernet port? > > Again -- I know I'm missing the obvious -- but any help (with or without > flaming would be appreciated! -- Besides we old folks don't "burn" well!) > > Thanks to all, > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13674&t=13626 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
Thanks Leigh Anne. I'm going to give your suggestion some thought. Right
now, I'm simply trying to see if I actually can set this up -- rather than
simply theorize about it. I guess it's the difference between studying and
hands on ("THE LAB"). Once I convince my self that I can actually setup this
config. Then I'll progress to other scenarios.
Thanks again for your input.
Greg Macaulay
Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
Lifetime Member of AARP
Retired Attorney/Law Professor
-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:57 PM
To: Greg Macaulay; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
Why not scrounge an older computer (even a 386 will do) and plunk 2 nic's in
it. Set it up as your firewall between the internet and you. Then connect
the external network nic of the linux box connecting to the cable modem, the
internal network nic and router to a hub? Security, and connectivity!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Greg Macaulay
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
Hi all,
I need some assistance with setting up my 2501 with my cable modem. I know
I'm missing something very obvious -- but attribute my oversight to my age!
(1) I configured the e0 port with ip address dhcp.
(2) I connected the cat5 cable from the cable modem to the e0 port.
(3) Now I know I need to connect the router to my hub -- but how?? -- since
there is only (1) ethernet port on a 2501?? Do I need a 2514 (or some other
router that has more than one ethernet port?
Again -- I know I'm missing the obvious -- but any help (with or without
flaming would be appreciated! -- Besides we old folks don't "burn" well!)
Thanks to all,
Greg Macaulay
Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
Lifetime Member of AARP
Retired Attorney/Law Professor
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RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
No -- your observations are valuable. I actually have three routers (2 2501s and 1 2514). I started with the 2501 in question simply because it had the correct amount of RAM and Flash for the 12.2 IOS. I've checked the Bootstrap Software and have the correct version for 12.2 -- so I'm going to swap the RAM/Flash between the 2501 and 2514. Then I'll try the many suggestions put forth here. The Rube Goldberg solution you proposed (to get the benefit of the 2d ethernet port) probably also works (I plan to try it -- just to see if it actaully does work), but first I'm gonna' stick with the 2514 solution. I guess I'm finally getting into some lab/hands on work -- now that I have absorbed all that theory in obtaining the CCNP/CCDP -- which is what it's all about anyway. Thanks for your input. I've been an admirer (of your knowledge) of yours since I first undertook this new career some two years ago! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] If your router only has one Ethernet port and you already used that one Ethernet port to connect back-to-back to your cable modem, then you can't also connect your router to an Ethernet hub. You could connect the router and the cable modem to a hub instead of connecting them back-to-back, but I have the sense that that doesn't accomplish what you want to accomplish. You could get yourself another 2501 router and connect the two routers using a WAN cross-over cable and the serial ports and then use the Ethernet port of the second router. Now we're really getting into some Rube Goldberg solutions though. Probably the best bet is replace the router with a router that has two Ethernet ports. If your network design calls for two Ethernet LANs, then you need a router with two Ethernet ports. Sorry if I'm stating the obvious!? Priscilla At 06:16 PM 7/24/01, you wrote: >Allen -- > >Perhaps I was not clear -- > >I have a 10 Base T Transceiver for the AUI port. That's how I connected the >cable modem to the port with the cat5 cable (RJ45). > >The question remains -- how do I connect from the router to the hub? > >Thanks, > >Greg Macaulay >Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth >Lifetime Member of AARP >Retired Attorney/Law Professor > >-Original Message- >From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:53 PM >To: Greg Macaulay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > >Get a 10 Base T Transceiver for the AUI port ;) > >I think someone was selling 5 of them on here the other day for like >$5-15...not sure how much but it was cheap. > >Allen > >- Original Message - >From: "Greg Macaulay" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 4:49 PM >Subject: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > > > Hi all, > > > > I need some assistance with setting up my 2501 with my cable modem. I >know > > I'm missing something very obvious -- but attribute my oversight to my >age! > > > > (1) I configured the e0 port with ip address dhcp. > > > > (2) I connected the cat5 cable from the cable modem to the e0 port. > > > > (3) Now I know I need to connect the router to my hub -- but how?? -- >since > > there is only (1) ethernet port on a 2501?? Do I need a 2514 (or some >other > > router that has more than one ethernet port? > > > > Again -- I know I'm missing the obvious -- but any help (with or without > > flaming would be appreciated! -- Besides we old folks don't "burn" well!) > > > > Thanks to all, > > > > Greg Macaulay > > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > > Lifetime Member of AARP > > Retired Attorney/Law Professor Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13680&t=13626 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
No I've got 12.2(1b) Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Wigle Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] replying to my own post I meant to say as far as 12.1.(2)T - is don't pick that one... Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Kevin Wigle" To: Sent: Tuesday, 24 July, 2001 19:24 Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > Well, I don't know. a little imagination could suggest that putting > the hub between the cable modem and the router and then using a secondary > address on e0 might do the trick and then with policy routing - who knows! > > A list member posted something a while ago about a similar setup but I can't > remember the details. > > I "rent" 3 IP addresses on my cable modem, all in different subnets and I > connect to the single cable modem with a hub. However in my case I use a > Linksys appliance from the hub to each of the devices using the cable modem. > > There was a bug with 12.1(2)T that the secondary address was deleting on > rebooting the router (complaining about a negotiated address) so pick that > one. > > Kevin Wigle > > - Original Message - > From: "Ayers, Michael" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, 24 July, 2001 18:27 > Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > > > The answer was, YOU CAN'T. The 2501 has but 1 Ethernet. You nee a > 2514! > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Greg Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:16 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > > > Allen -- > > > > Perhaps I was not clear -- > > > > I have a 10 Base T Transceiver for the AUI port. That's how I connected > the > > cable modem to the port with the cat5 cable (RJ45). > > > > The question remains -- how do I connect from the router to the hub? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Greg Macaulay > > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > > Lifetime Member of AARP > > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:53 PM > > To: Greg Macaulay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > > > > > Get a 10 Base T Transceiver for the AUI port ;) > > > > I think someone was selling 5 of them on here the other day for like > > $5-15...not sure how much but it was cheap. > > > > Allen > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Greg Macaulay" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 4:49 PM > > Subject: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I need some assistance with setting up my 2501 with my cable modem. I > > know > > > I'm missing something very obvious -- but attribute my oversight to my > > age! > > > > > > (1) I configured the e0 port with ip address dhcp. > > > > > > (2) I connected the cat5 cable from the cable modem to the e0 port. > > > > > > (3) Now I know I need to connect the router to my hub -- but how?? -- > > since > > > there is only (1) ethernet port on a 2501?? Do I need a 2514 (or some > > other > > > router that has more than one ethernet port? > > > > > > Again -- I know I'm missing the obvious -- but any help (with or without > > > flaming would be appreciated! -- Besides we old folks don't "burn" > well!) > > > > > > Thanks to all, > > > > > > Greg Macaulay > > > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > > > Lifetime Member of AARP > > > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or > > attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do > > not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, > > conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to > the > > official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor > > endorsed by it. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13681&t=13626 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
Hey Curtis, Pardon my preaching for a moment -- and don't flame me!!! Money (saving it or spending it) is not the primary object here! Learning how to solve a problem is! -- at least for me! I've spent the best part of two years learning MS and Cisco -- and much of the discourse on this list -- is about HANDS-ON -- and not simply theory. Getting to that Lab in Halifax or wherever means that we all have to work as much as possible on these Cisco products. It's like in law school -- I spent three years (many, many years ago) studying theoretical law -- then when I graduated and passed the Bar Exam -- I was told I had to go out and try a case. I almost s*** in my pants -- I knew absolutely nothing about how to apply the law -- but lots about the theory. This time I'm gonna' get my hands dirty as much as possible. Besides it's fun! I'm having the time of my life learning and applying all this new stuff. So the solution must be a Cisco one -- and I might add it is blasphemy to mention the name of Linksys on this list (As an attorney I can make up rules if I want to!!!) In any case, thanks for the input. I really do apprecicate it. Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: Curtis Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] Greg, You are right about the Cisco nedding to be a DHCP client unless you can get a static IP address from your ISP. This may be possible but they may ask you for additional $. You will have to run run DHCP services on the ethernet facing your internal pc(s) as well as a NAT service. I saw someon mention Linksys. That is what I use and it works great. It has NAT and DHCP integrated as well as ports for th ecablemodem and multiple ethernet connections. Of course this is assuming you are only after the functionality an dnot worried about the experience of configuring this on Cisco routers. I think the Linksys routers are around $100-150 new. Curtis ----- Original Message - From: "Greg Macaulay" To: "Cisco GroupStudy" ; "Curtis Phillips" Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > Curtis -- > > Thanks -- > > I assumed that I would need the 2514 -- (2 ethernet ports) -- which I have! > > As far as configuring DHCP on the router -- I noticed that the PC that I > have attached to the cablemodem at present -- is configured to have a DHCP > server provide an ip address -- which is renewed with a different address > every three days (Road Runner). So I would think that since the Road Runner > cablemodem will be attached to the e0 port -- that it will need to have an > address assigned to it from Road Runner -- thus why I would set it up with > as a dhcp client. > I would also need to configure NAT for the PCs in my network -- I think! > > Does this make sense?? > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > -Original Message- > From: Curtis Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:07 PM > To: Greg Macaulay > Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > > Greg, > > You definitely need a router that has tow ethernet ports as the cable mode m > interfaces to ethernet and you will need ethernet to go to either a hub or > switch (if you have more than one system) or to your system. > > You shouldn;t need to configure DHCP on the Cisco router as the cable modem > should be functioning as a DHCP client if your ISP uses dynamic client > config. > > You may want to configure the Cisco router to function as a DHCP server > though.. (check IOS versions that may support this). > > Good Luck, > > Curtis > - Original Message - > From: "Greg Macaulay" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:49 PM > Subject: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > > > Hi all, > > > > I need some assistance with setting up my 2501 with my cable modem. I > know > > I'm missing something very obvious -- but attribute my oversight to my > age! > > > > (1) I configured the e0 port with ip address dhcp. > > > > (2) I connected the cat5 cable from the cable modem to the e0 port. > > > > (3) Now I know I need to connect the router to my hub -- but how?? -- > since > > there is only (1) ethernet port on a 2501?? Do I need a 2514 (or some > other > > router that has more than one ethernet port? > > > > Again -- I know I'm missing the obvious -- but any help (with or without > > flaming would be appreciated! -- B
RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
Hey Curtis I want to apologize for the rantings of an old man last nite. We each have our own method of approaching this stuff -- and I for one have alwasy believed that I shouldn't preach to others. Lecturing/Preaching or whatever has been my forte for many years -- teaching both goggle-eyed law students, weary lawyers, or newly-appointed judges. So it's hard for me to break the mold. I'm trying desparately to get out of my lawyer suit (Like Clark Kent) and get properly fitted for my techie suit!! So again pardon me for any offensive words or thoughts I might have inadvertantly conveyed last nite. Thanks for the input -- I really do appreciate it. Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: Curtis Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] No problem. Good luck wih your project. - Original Message - From: "Greg Macaulay" To: "Cisco GroupStudy" ; "Curtis Phillips" Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:31 PM Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > Hey Curtis, > > Pardon my preaching for a moment -- and don't flame me!!! > > Money (saving it or spending it) is not the primary object here! Learning > how to solve a problem is! -- at least for me! I've spent the best part of > two years learning MS and Cisco -- and much of the discourse on this list -- > is about HANDS-ON -- and not simply theory. Getting to that Lab in Halifax > or wherever means that we all have to work as much as possible on these > Cisco products. > > It's like in law school -- I spent three years (many, many years ago) > studying theoretical law -- then when I graduated and passed the Bar Exam -- > I was told I had to go out and try a case. I almost s*** in my pants -- I > knew absolutely nothing about how to apply the law -- but lots about the > theory. > > This time I'm gonna' get my hands dirty as much as possible. Besides it's > fun! I'm having the time of my life learning and applying all this new > stuff. > > So the solution must be a Cisco one -- and I might add it is blasphemy to > mention the name of Linksys on this list (As an attorney I can make up rules > if I want to!!!) > > In any case, thanks for the input. I really do apprecicate it. > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > > -Original Message- > From: Curtis Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > > Greg, > > You are right about the Cisco nedding to be a DHCP client unless you can get > a static IP address from your ISP. This may be possible but they may ask you > for additional $. You will have to run run DHCP services on the ethernet > facing your internal pc(s) as well as a NAT > service. > I saw someon mention Linksys. That is what I use and it works great. It has > NAT and DHCP integrated as well as ports for th ecablemodem and multiple > ethernet connections. Of course this is assuming you are only after the > functionality an dnot worried about the experience of configuring this on > Cisco routers. I think the Linksys routers are around $100-150 new. > > Curtis > > - Original Message - > From: "Greg Macaulay" > To: "Cisco GroupStudy" ; "Curtis Phillips" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:50 PM > Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626] > > > > Curtis -- > > > > Thanks -- > > > > I assumed that I would need the 2514 -- (2 ethernet ports) -- which I > have! > > > > As far as configuring DHCP on the router -- I noticed that the PC that I > > have attached to the cablemodem at present -- is configured to have a DHCP > > server provide an ip address -- which is renewed with a different address > > every three days (Road Runner). So I would think that since the Road > Runner > > cablemodem will be attached to the e0 port -- that it will need to have an > > address assigned to it from Road Runner -- thus why I would set it up with > > as a dhcp client. > > I would also need to configure NAT for the PCs in my network -- I think! > > > > Does this make sense?? > > > > Greg Macaulay > > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > > Lifetime Member of AARP > > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Curtis Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:0
For those studying VoIP/CVoice! [7:14061]
FYI I discovered this page on CCO by accident. Hope it helps those who are preparing for CVoice http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voip/voip.shtml Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14061&t=14061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - CCIE Written class - we are on [7:14062]
Not to seem ignorant -- but "geographically" where is this class to be held?? Hopefully (or is it "selfishly"), it will be in the D.C. area or is it Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Laganiere Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT - CCIE Written class - we are on [7:14062] It looks like we've got things pretty much figured out. The fine folks at CCBootcamp have offered to host the class in early September. We'll use a combination of their and my notes; and we'll plan on two days of intense lecture, a half-day mock exam and review period, and the afternoon of the third day everyone takes the actual test. They are planning to have six to ten seats, and the cost is still to be determined. I'm going to hang out the afternoon of the third day to either congratulate or mentor people as they exit the exam room. If everybody passes, the beers are on me (or Brad, if I can talk him into it). Keep an eye on CCBootcamps website for more details... --- Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT - CCIE Written class [7:13666] Dennis, et. al. Appropriate for me now and sounds good to me - you have my vote. Ray CCNP/CCDP >Here's an idea I haven't seen floated about. How about a prep class for the >CCIE Written? I could put something together if enough people were >interested; it kind of sounds like fun... > >--- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14064&t=14062 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167]
I need proof -- date of birth, place of birth, whether you are left-or right-handed or ambidextrous, etc. Without that -- I still claim the title. In fact, I am taking on the Republicans spin in Florida on this. My age has been broadcast over this list for months and no one "successfully" came forth and refuted my claim to the title. Thus, there has been an age count, and an age recount and even a recount on the age recount -- and there has not been anyone who can prove BRD (lawyers shorthand for Beyond a Reasonable Doubt!) that I am not the duly "self-appointed" and "self-anointed" oldest (albeit I concede not the wisest) CCNP/CCDP on this earth!! If necessary, I will call upon Ms. Katherine Harris (from Florida) to mediate this issue!!! See, we old folks have nothing on our plates so we can engage in this nonsensical, time-wasting behavior (at least while I'm having my first cuppa' tea this a.m. Then its on to work!!! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth (pending recount!) Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: For those studying VoIP/CVoice! [7:14061] Greg, Good post on a reference URL for VoIP. I will be taking Cisco IP Voice class next week and will refer to some of these links. TNX Note: However, you'll have to revise your signature as I think for the moment I am most likely the Oldest and Bald CCIE wannabe ;-) at age 59 3/4 Ray Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth FYI I discovered this page on CCO by accident. Hope it helps those who are preparing for CVoice http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voip/voip.shtml Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14167&t=14167 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167]
Hey Rick, Not to get defensive -- but would you like my D.C. Bar number?? -- and then you can check it out directly with the D.C. Bar! Greg M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 4:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167] this is what I warn my kids aboutyou can be whatever you want to be on the NET and no one is the wiser!! Rick In a message dated 7/30/01 12:37:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Give up Ray. the guys a lawyer even if he was 12 and 1/2 he would > win. > > > -Original Message- > > From:Greg Macaulay [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent:30 July 2001 15:33 > > To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167] > > > > I need proof -- date of birth, place of birth, whether you are left-or > > right-handed or ambidextrous, etc. Without that -- I still claim the > > title. > > In fact, I am taking on the Republicans spin in Florida on this. My age > > has > > been broadcast over this list for months and no one "successfully" came > > forth and refuted my claim to the title. Thus, there has been an age > > count, > > and an age recount and even a recount on the age recount -- and there has > > not been anyone who can prove BRD (lawyers shorthand for Beyond a > > Reasonable > > Doubt!) that I am not the duly "self-appointed" and "self-anointed" oldest > > (albeit I concede not the wisest) CCNP/CCDP on this earth!! > > > > If necessary, I will call upon Ms. Katherine Harris (from Florida) to > > mediate this issue!!! > > > > See, we old folks have nothing on our plates so we can engage in this > > nonsensical, time-wasting behavior (at least while I'm having my first > > cuppa' tea this a.m. Then its on to work!!! > > > > Greg Macaulay > > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth (pending recount!) > > Lifetime Member of AARP > > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:57 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: For those studying VoIP/CVoice! [7:14061] > > > > > > Greg, > > > > Good post on a reference URL for VoIP. I will be taking Cisco IP Voice > > class next week and will refer to some of these links. > > > > TNX > > > > Note: However, you'll have to revise your signature as I think for the > > moment > > I am > > most likely the Oldest and Bald CCIE wannabe ;-) at age 59 3/4 > > > > Ray > > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14264&t=14167 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167]
-Original Message- From: Greg Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 4:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167] 56 -- and I can prove it -- 8 grandchildren -- can't recall their b-dates -- and I have white hair!!! Gosh, I really didn't think that many folks on the list had so much time on their hands to contribute to this nonsense (and fun!). Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth (recount in progress) Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: William Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 4:10 PM To: 'Greg Macaulay'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167] I can't resist, how old are you? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg Macaulay Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167] I need proof -- date of birth, place of birth, whether you are left-or right-handed or ambidextrous, etc. Without that -- I still claim the title. In fact, I am taking on the Republicans spin in Florida on this. My age has been broadcast over this list for months and no one "successfully" came forth and refuted my claim to the title. Thus, there has been an age count, and an age recount and even a recount on the age recount -- and there has not been anyone who can prove BRD (lawyers shorthand for Beyond a Reasonable Doubt!) that I am not the duly "self-appointed" and "self-anointed" oldest (albeit I concede not the wisest) CCNP/CCDP on this earth!! If necessary, I will call upon Ms. Katherine Harris (from Florida) to mediate this issue!!! See, we old folks have nothing on our plates so we can engage in this nonsensical, time-wasting behavior (at least while I'm having my first cuppa' tea this a.m. Then its on to work!!! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth (pending recount!) Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: For those studying VoIP/CVoice! [7:14061] Greg, Good post on a reference URL for VoIP. I will be taking Cisco IP Voice class next week and will refer to some of these links. TNX Note: However, you'll have to revise your signature as I think for the moment I am most likely the Oldest and Bald CCIE wannabe ;-) at age 59 3/4 Ray Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth FYI I discovered this page on CCO by accident. Hope it helps those who are preparing for CVoice http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voip/voip.shtml Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14265&t=14167 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167]
56 and counting!! -- and as "still" a member of the D.C. Bar -- being that I am in D.C. -- politics is the name of the game here! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Allen May Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 4:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167] Lawyer? Sounds more like a politician ;) 3 paragraphs & still didn't state his age..rofl. Just having fun with ya ;) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Greg Macaulay > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:33 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167] > > > I need proof -- date of birth, place of birth, whether you are left-or > right-handed or ambidextrous, etc. Without that -- I still claim the title. > In fact, I am taking on the Republicans spin in Florida on this. My age has > been broadcast over this list for months and no one "successfully" came > forth and refuted my claim to the title. Thus, there has been an age count, > and an age recount and even a recount on the age recount -- and there has > not been anyone who can prove BRD (lawyers shorthand for Beyond a Reasonable > Doubt!) that I am not the duly "self-appointed" and "self-anointed" oldest > (albeit I concede not the wisest) CCNP/CCDP on this earth!! > > If necessary, I will call upon Ms. Katherine Harris (from Florida) to > mediate this issue!!! > > See, we old folks have nothing on our plates so we can engage in this > nonsensical, time-wasting behavior (at least while I'm having my first > cuppa' tea this a.m. Then its on to work!!! > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth (pending recount!) > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: For those studying VoIP/CVoice! [7:14061] > > > Greg, > > Good post on a reference URL for VoIP. I will be taking Cisco IP Voice > class next week and will refer to some of these links. > > TNX > > Note: However, you'll have to revise your signature as I think for the > moment > I am > most likely the Oldest and Bald CCIE wannabe ;-) at age 59 3/4 > > Ray > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > > > > > FYI > > I discovered this page on CCO by accident. Hope it helps those who are > preparing for CVoice > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voip/voip.shtml > > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14267&t=14167 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14270]
Ray -- Point of (Nonsensical) Order -- Are you also a CCDP or "simply" a CCNP?? Such information bears on your challenge to my title -- and whether I should really start sweating (boy I could really lose the weight with a bit of sweating!.). Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth (recount in progress) Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message-- --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: For those studying VoIP/CVoice! [7:14061] Greg, Good post on a reference URL for VoIP. I will be taking Cisco IP Voice class next week and will refer to some of these links. TNX Note: However, you'll have to revise your signature as I think for the moment I am most likely the Oldest and Bald CCIE wannabe ;-) at age 59 3/4 Ray Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth FYI I discovered this page on CCO by accident. Hope it helps those who are preparing for CVoice http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voip/voip.shtml Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14270&t=14270 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PEC CIMs [7:14291]
I opened a case with the PECsupport folks and they told me that there are evidently an "old" "outdated version" of the CIMs and a "new" version. The old version of (all) the CIMs is what is causing problems. So go to edit your progress and delete all the CIMs you signed up for. Then on the PEC page -- click on SEARCH and put in CIM. You should get a page with the 5 CIMs which you can sign up for today. As far as what happens at midnight tomorrow -- whether Cinderella's carriage turns into a pumkin or not, etc. I don't know the answer. I (hope) and suspect that if you are already signed up for the CIM, then it will still be available -- but I don't know that for sure! Good luck. Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth (recount in progress) Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: PEC CIMs [7:14291] I have been trying to use the CIMs that are currently available for free at Partner E-learning Connection, but I've only been able to successfully complete "Router Basics". All the other CIMs are littered with "403" errors (HTTP error code for page not found). I've opened a case (#4109082) with PECsupport, but so far they haven't been much help, and CIMs are only available until the end of the month, which would be tomorrow. Have any of the other Partners here tried them and experienced the same problem? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14302&t=14291 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: not cisco but interesting... [7:14547]
Oh well . . . . you are probably correct. I'll take a lesson from myself and keep my age and OT topics to myself from now on! Greg Macaulay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 6:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: not cisco but interesting... [7:14547] Greg, hellva lot better use of bandwidth than your oldest fart alive contest with Ray :0) thanks again Jennifer Rick > Jennifer -- > > Being a Nam Vet myself -- I have strong personal feelings about many an > issue related to that War. I therefore express no opinion pro or con on > what you have distributed to list members here. However, time marches on, > and many of us have moved on from that situation. > > Moreover, this list IS NOT the place to be dealing with these issues. > Bandwidth is precious -- as we all know from our studies! Also, while I > cannot definitely speak for others -- I am sure that most of us are here to > learn configurations, theory, troubleshooting etc. as it relates to our > studies. > > So, for me at least, respectfully, please take your discussions of these > non-cisco issues to a more relevant forum where they will get proper time > and attention and a full airing of both sides of the argument. > > Thanks, > > Greg Macaulay > Almost the Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14872&t=14547 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: not cisco but interesting... [7:14547]
Jennifer -- Being a Nam Vet myself -- I have strong personal feelings about many an issue related to that War. I therefore express no opinion pro or con on what you have distributed to list members here. However, time marches on, and many of us have moved on from that situation. Moreover, this list IS NOT the place to be dealing with these issues. Bandwidth is precious -- as we all know from our studies! Also, while I cannot definitely speak for others -- I am sure that most of us are here to learn configurations, theory, troubleshooting etc. as it relates to our studies. So, for me at least, respectfully, please take your discussions of these non-cisco issues to a more relevant forum where they will get proper time and attention and a full airing of both sides of the argument. Thanks, Greg Macaulay Almost the Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Cribbs Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: not cisco but interesting... [7:14547] This is not cisco, but alot of things aren't. I received this from my brother-n-law. Any vietnam vets out there in cisco land? It is entitled: "Who is doing the honoring?" = Who is doing the honoring? Whether or not you believed in the war, this is the story of an American's reprehensible actions towards other Americans who were ordered to serve and did serve. McCain has "forgiven" her, more in the spirit of making peace with another human being. He would probably not support this award. Pass it on if you agree. Has THAT much time past? Have Americans forgotten? Read this (its signed at the bottom): REMEMBER, SHE WAS KNOWN TO US ALL AS - "HANOI JANE. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the ''100 Great Women of the Century.'' Unfortunately many have forgotten, and still countless others have never known, how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. Part of my conviction comes from personal exposure to those who suffered her attentions. The first part of this is from a McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantom pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison (the ''Hanoi Hilton.''). Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American ''Peace Activist'' the ''lenient and humane treatment'' he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the ''Hilton'' -- the first three of which he was ''missing in action.'' His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned / fed / clothed routine in preparation for a ''peace delegation'' visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: ''Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?'' and ''Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?'' Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge, and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a black box in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's ''war
RE: not cisco but interesting... [7:14547]
If I offended anyone, I sincerely apologize! However, my intent in my initial replay was NOT to offend. I thought I was careful with my wording. Evidently, I failed in that attempt. So please accept my apology in this. Gregory B. Macaulay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Cribbs Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 12:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: not cisco but interesting... [7:14547] Thank you. Jenn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Holloway Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 5:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: not cisco but interesting... [7:14547] ditto Jenn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 5:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: not cisco but interesting... [7:14547] Greg, hellva lot better use of bandwidth than your oldest fart alive contest with Ray :0) thanks again Jennifer Rick > Jennifer -- > > Being a Nam Vet myself -- I have strong personal feelings about many an > issue related to that War. I therefore express no opinion pro or con on > what you have distributed to list members here. However, time marches on, > and many of us have moved on from that situation. > > Moreover, this list IS NOT the place to be dealing with these issues. > Bandwidth is precious -- as we all know from our studies! Also, while I > cannot definitely speak for others -- I am sure that most of us are here to > learn configurations, theory, troubleshooting etc. as it relates to our > studies. > > So, for me at least, respectfully, please take your discussions of these > non-cisco issues to a more relevant forum where they will get proper time > and attention and a full airing of both sides of the argument. > > Thanks, > > Greg Macaulay > Almost the Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14916&t=14547 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: GroupStudy we have a problem.... [7:28901]
I'll also be happy to contribute $$ to the list to keep it going. Greg Macaulay (Almost) Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth Lifetime AARP Member Retired Attorney/Law Professor > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Stull, Cory > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: GroupStudy we have a problem [7:28901] > > > Me too. > > -Original Message- > From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: GroupStudy we have a problem [7:28901] > > > Thanks Paul, > > Please provide me with your address, and I will send you a contribution in > form of a check towards better equipment. Your list has helped me to get > where I am, and I would like to thank you for that. > > Merry Christmas, > > Ole > > ~~~ > Ole Drews Jensen > Systems Network Manager > CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~~~ > http://www.RouterChief.com > ~~~ > NEED A JOB ??? > http://www.oledrews.com/job > ~~~ > > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: GroupStudy we have a problem [7:28901] > > > Hey gang, > > Servers database became corrupt thus preventing messages from being sent > out. It has been fixed so if you do not see your posting, please > resend. I > have shipped more memory to InFlow. Lon has agreed to install it for us. > This should help. So by the way, the server will be down for a little > while tomorrow :-) > > The truth is we desperately need some better equipment. Currently we are > using a server I built for $500 dollars two years ago. I purchased a used > Dell Server but need to upgrade the RAID array and a few other > things before > putting it online. > > Take care, > > Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=28963&t=28901 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: GroupStudy we have a problem.... [7:28901]
Feargal Be careful about dispensing "legal" advice -- unless of course, you are a member of the Bar, or a CPA or even an H&R Block Graduate . Whether there is any "tax" due depends on a number of factors -- and quite frankly we don't have enough information to make any determination about this -- at this time. But -- "assuming" Paul runs this as a business, taxes are only due to George W. if there are "profits." Hence, if all the "donations" are actually used to support "GroupStudy," there probably is no tax liability. However, once again, I caution -- this is simply a "hypothetical" based on an "assumption." (Of course, Paul COULD take the "donations" and treat himself to a relaxing trip to the "Cisco Islands!!" It is NOT INTENDED to be legal advice of any type. Greg Macaulay (Almost) Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime AARP Member Retired Attorney/Law Professor > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Feargal Ledwidge > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: GroupStudy we have a problem [7:28901] > > > Just dont forget that if money is paid directly to Paul - he > becomes liable > for tax on it. > > Feargal > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Symon Thurlow > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: GroupStudy we have a problem [7:28901] > > > Paul, why don't you let us know what or how much is required, then > people who are feeling generous could sponsor parts, perhaps even buy > them through ebay etc and get them shipped to you. > > Symon > > > --- > > Thanks Paul, > > > > Please provide me with your address, and I will send you a > contribution in > > form of a check towards better equipment. Your list has helped me to > get > > where I am, and I would like to thank you for that. > > > > Merry Christmas, > > > > Ole > > > > ~~~ > > Ole Drews Jensen > > Systems Network Manager > > CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I > > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~~~ > > http://www.RouterChief.com > > ~~~ > > NEED A JOB ??? > > http://www.oledrews.com/job > > ~~~ > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: GroupStudy we have a problem [7:28901] > > > > > > Hey gang, > > > > Servers database became corrupt thus preventing messages from being > sent > > out. It has been fixed so if you do not see your posting, please > resend. I > > have shipped more memory to InFlow. Lon has agreed to install it > for us. > > This should help. So by the way, the server will be down for a > little > > while tomorrow :-) > > > > The truth is we desperately need some better equipment. Currently > we are > > using a server I built for $500 dollars two years ago. I purchased > a used > > Dell Server but need to upgrade the RAID array and a few other > things before > > putting it online. > > > > Take care, > > > > Paul > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Cheers, > > Symon > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29049&t=28901 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco academy's routing skills final ,tough!!! [7:29212]
I'd like to inject my own .02 here -- for what it's worth. I am a retired law professor -- having taught law students, lawyers and even judges over the years! One of my pet peeves during my career was the inability of students (on whatever level) to effectively communicate both orally and with the written word. For a number of years I taught in Ireland, England and Australia where there was only one examination per year in each subject. This meant that a student's entire grade for an entire year rested on their performance in a single written examination. Since I had come from an American academic background, where there are finals each semester (rather than annually) and mid-terms, term papers, class performance, etc. I was a bit shocked at this different academic system. So, in an effort to both deal with my "pet peeve," and ensure that my students would be able to effectively communicate their knowledge on a final examination, I instituted a process whereby I gave students, short papers to write every two weeks and reviewed them individually with each student. Also, I gave continuous mock examinations to teach students to communicate under pressure. None of this admittedly was for "credit." Everything still depended on a student's performance on their final examination. However, by aggressively pushing students to master written communications during the academic year, I hopefully ensured that they maximized their chances of passing -- and with a good grade. In fact, though I never -- never mentioned it to any student -- I never failed any student who showed up for my final examination. I knew that their efforts in dealing with the persistent intense pressure to write during the year, and answer my searching cross-examinations of their substantive knowledge far surpassed anything they might produce during a 3 or 4 hour written examination in June. However, this only became an issue with border-line examination scores, as most students passed with sufficiently high-grades. In those instances where a few students who had undergone the year-long writing process performed badly or inadequately on the final examination, I was always able to give them the benefit of the doubt -- as I knew their true abilities from observing their efforts during the academic year. Oftentimes, too many external factors, such as a suddent loss of memory, physical ailments, fear, stress or other similar factors negatively effect a student's performance on a final examination. My process was a stopgap to ensure that those factors were either minimized or negated entirely. Only those few who failed to attend class, either at all or sporadically during the year were not given the benefit of the doubt in borderline cases. Everyone else was given this benefit. I mention this -- long-windedly (as I am an attorney) -- because it seems that there may have been a breakdown in the testing process here. A teacher's responsibility -- especially in a hands-on environment as here -- is to drum this information into students' heads -- during the acadmeic year -- to the point that student's know and understand the information without any effort. The lab hands-on should not be a means of eliminating students, but to ratify that the teacher has effectively communicated the information to students during the academic year. If ALL or MOST students fail such an examination, it is a strong sign that the teacher has failed his/her responsbilities to the students. I guess I could go on, but I'll wait and see what flames this message brings! To all, Have a Happy and Joyous Holiday! Greg Macaulay (Almost) Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor - Original Message - From: "Tom Lisa" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:59 PM Subject: Re: cisco academy's routing skills final ,tough!!! [7:29212] > Although I would prefer that all my students passed on the first try, you > are correct in your assessment. Unfortunately, having passed the CCNA > exam does not guarantee success at the CCNP level. I have stated > before that I like to compare the Cisco certs to the Crafts skills > designators. > I consider the CCNA an apprentice, the CCNP journeyman, and > CCIE master craftsman level of expertise. Not all apprentices make it > to the journeyman level and very few journeymen ascend to the Master > craftsman level. > > Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI > Community College of Southern Nevada > Cisco Regional Networking Academy > > > Brian Whalen wrote: > > > I really don't agree that everyone should pass, tho perhaps that was a > > wisecrack I didn't see. Inevitably in any class some students try and > > some don't. If everyone fails then yes perhaps that is a problem, but > > given the material difficulty, I would expect a su
Re: cisco academy's routing skills final ,tough!!! [7:29212]
Hello Tom -- and "et al" Now that the crush of the holidays are ebbing I can try and focus on some email responses which are past due. Tom, I didn't intend by my original response to negate any specific professor/trainer/teacher. I simply cited my own personal experience that I found successful in teaching. Perhaps it was because I was trained in a "rigid" catholic elementary school. But I have found that "reps" and "continued reps" tend to reinforce tasks to the brain that a "one-time only" exhibition (which is usually undertaken "once" because of time constraints) fails to ensure a student truly understands. For myself, I learned the multiplication tables standing in the aisles with my classmates and loudly reciting (and re-reciting) many times 1x1=1, 1x2=2, etc. until it was permanently stamped on my brain. I have transferred (for better or worse) those teaching traits to my own teaching along with personal -- one-on-one sessions. The personal sessions I have utilized to give a student confidence and to allow for each student to ask questions that he/she would otherwise be reluctant to raise in front of their peers -- for whatever reason. Also, these sessions allow me to drive home the various concepts I have been teaching and to ensure -- as much as humanly possible -- that each of my students has a firm grasp on these concepts. I have always believed that it was my responsibility as a teacher to ensure that my methods were successful for each of my students. On the other hand, I don't sugggest that a teacher is shirking their duties by not doing this. Rather, I consider it my personal responsibility. Anyway, enuf ( I always wanted to spell it that way -- God Bless you Sr. Victoria!!! ) preaching. Just, a further explanation of my own .02!! Have a great New Year to you Tom (and your family) and to everyone else who may want to waste time reading this thread Greg Macaulay (Almost) Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor - Original Message - From: "Tom Lisa" To: Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:45 AM Subject: Re: cisco academy's routing skills final ,tough!!! [7:29212] > Greg, > > You may not be aware, but many, if not all, academies allow the student a > retake if they fail the Skills Based Assessment (practical exam in plain > english -- just put that in since you're a lawyer) the first time. Every > area > tasked in the practical is covered at least once in a lab experiment > during the semester. > > The 60% failure rate I had indicated was for the first try. Final pass rate > was 90%. I don't think this is an unacceptable failure rate for CCNP > level students. BTW, I am reminded, from my days as a consultant for > law office management systems, that there isn't anything brief about a > legal brief. > > Happy Holidays All, > > Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI > Community College of Southern Nevada > Cisco Regional Networking Academy > (Still Pres., Groupstudy Old Geezers Club) > > Greg Macaulay wrote: > > > I'd like to inject my own .02 here -- for what it's worth. I am a retired > > law professor -- having taught law students, lawyers and even judges over > > the years! One of my pet peeves during my career was the inability of > > students (on whatever level) to effectively communicate both orally and > with > > the written word. > > > > For a number of years I taught in Ireland, England and Australia where > there > > was only one examination per year in each subject. This meant that a > > student's entire grade for an entire year rested on their performance in a > > single written examination. Since I had come from an American academic > > background, where there are finals each semester (rather than annually) and > > mid-terms, term papers, class performance, etc. I was a bit shocked at this > > different academic system. > > > > So, in an effort to both deal with my "pet peeve," and ensure that my > > students would be able to effectively communicate their knowledge on a > final > > examination, I instituted a process whereby I gave students, short papers > to > > write every two weeks and reviewed them individually with each student. > > Also, I gave continuous mock examinations to teach students to communicate > > under pressure. > > > > None of this admittedly was for "credit." Everything still depended on a > > student's performance on their final examination. However, by aggressively > > pushing students to master written communications during the academic year, > > I hopefully ensured that they maximized their chances of passing -- and > with >
Re: OBTAIN A UNIVERSITY DEGREE...EASILY!! [7:30781]
Hmmm, and I spent maaannnyyy years obtaining all my degrees -- five years for my D.Phil. Which reminds me -- we used to have a silly little joke in our residence hall which goes something like this: What does B.S., M.S. and Ph.d. stand for??? Bull @!#$, more @!#$, and piled high and deep!!! Simple -- and factually quite true -- as I can attest to! Now I have to think if I should try and "obtain" another degree, instead of these cisco certs! I wonder . . . . Greg Macaulay (Almost) Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor Budding Techie! - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:58 AM Subject: OBTAIN A UNIVERSITY DEGREE...EASILY!! [7:30781] > UNIVERSITY DIPLOMAS > > Obtain a prosperous future, money earning power, > and the admiration of all. > > Diplomas from prestigious non-accredited > universities based on your present knowledge > and life experience. > > No required tests, classes, books, or interviews. > > Bachelors, masters, MBA, and doctorate (PhD) > diplomas available in the field of your choice. > > No one is turned down. > > Confidentiality assured. > > CALL NOW to receive your diploma > within days!!! > > 1-305-460-3152 > > Call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, including > Sundays and holidays. > > > > If you no longer wish to be on our list send a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30811&t=30781 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62367]
I'm not sure I agree about losing tax breaks -- with the exception of having to pay the "employers share" of FICA. There was a time over the past 28 years where -- when I wasn't a professor -- I ran a small law practice. I had 1099s -- and simply expensed everyting on a Schedule C. I believe that you can do the same -- without difficulty -- as long as you keep adequate records. You do not need to have an employer, or headhunter -- unless they are going to underwrite your expenses etc. Lastly, DO NOT consider this as legal advice! I'm not practicing law anymore -- and if I was you would be getting my bill for $300/hr -- regardless of a 1099!! Greg Macaulay Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Sam Sneed > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62367] > > > The 1099 is an easy way to go but you lose out on a lot of tax > breaks. I'm a > 1099 now and am kicking myself in the ass for not setting up as small > business. > I'm working in NYC now. $6 just to take the bridge into NYC from > jersey and > $25 day parking. Never mind 40 minutes each way traffic to > commute 10 miles. > If you're set up as a small business you have more flexiblity in > writing off > expenses like these. > > ""Chuck Church"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Yes. Money will depend on your skill level with both Cisco and other > > products as well, such as Unix, NW, MS, etc. It could be > $30/hour, could > be > > $100. Location is probably almost as important. NYC pays pretty well, > but > > it cost's $50 to park a car for 4 hours! The thing about > consulting like > > this is you need be a salesperson at times. Personally, I hate > salespeople, > > and therefore don't make a good one myself. There's also more > > responsibility, as far as finding your own insurance, paying taxes, etc. > If > > you can find a headhunter who will place you as a 1099 employee, that's > > usually pretty good, but I haven't heard from my headhunter in months > > :(I was on an indefinite project for a year, but that ended > when they > > outsourced. Since then it's all been small projects, mostly complicated > > installs involving layer 3 switching. It's a tough market, and > getting a > > name for yourself can be difficult. Personally, I'm looking for a full > time > > position now. > > > > Chuck Church > > CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jay Greenberg" > > To: ; > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM > > Subject: CCIE Self-Employment > > > > > > > Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves? What's the money > > > like, what sort of companies do you work for? Do you do short-term or > > > long term contracts? Hourly work? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -- > > > Jason Greenberg, CCIE #11021 > > > > > > . Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=62444&t=62367 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccie 351-001 [7:41655]
I just checked the Cisco Website and it makes no mention of getting credit for the CCIE Communication and Services Lab Requirement by passing the beta CCIE written. In fact, what it does say, and I quote: If candidates pass the beta version, full credit will be given toward the written exam requirement for the CCIE Routing and Switching lab exam. Let's try and not misstate info which can only mislead the group. Misstating and misleading is usually relegated to politicians on Capitol Hill!! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ccie 351-001 [7:41655] on the cisco site it states that if you pass the beta R&S written you get credit for the CCIE Communication and Services Lab Requirement, which makes no sense except they don't want you taking the cheap written for the most popular CCIE. --T Wallace Lee wrote: > > I have go through the announcement from Cisco Web. I wonder if > I can use this writen > test 351-001 to apply the LAB Test which is still 350-001. > Anyone have info about this ? > > rgds > > > khalid ameen wrote: > > > is there any news about the beta CCIE new exam 351-001 > > ? > > any news, > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=41790&t=41655 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: VERY Inexpensive DRAM for 2500 Series Routers! [7:19185]
OK -- Now that I've got your attention -- let me note one thing before I continue -- I passed this subject by the Paul B., the List Moderator & Chuck L. (Sr. List Guru!) before posting this and have their OK to go forward. So don't waste BW by flaming me! I have discovered a Memory vendor local to where I reside (Northern Virginia) who appears hot to relieve himself of 16mb FPM Parity sticks (which are compatible in the 2500 series)! I met him at one of our weekly computer shows. He offered to sell me sticks for $7.50 and I counter-offered $5.00 which he accepted and then went on to explain that he has a whole lot of these sticks and nowhere to sell them. I did a quick survey of the other Memory vendors at the show and the prices range from $5.00 to 10.00 per 16mb stick. I am not involved in this in any manner -- and am only passing this info on for the possible benefit of Groupstudy list members. So, if you have any doubts -- then simply ignore this message. However, if you want to investigate this -- be my guest! The vendor is: Erik Spencer Memory Plus 2893 P.S. Business Center Woodbridge, VA 22192 (703) 730-9662 (703) 730-9728 http://www.upgradeplanet.com Greg Macaulay (Almost the )Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19185&t=19185 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VERY Inexpensive DRAM for 2500 Series Routers! [7:19185]
I referrred to Chuck "Senior" because of his "elder" knowledge and because I've learned that he is a closet AARP member!! Greg M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of EA Louie Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VERY Inexpensive DRAM for 2500 Series Routers! [7:19185] > I passed this subject by the Paul B., the List Moderator & Chuck L. (Sr. > List Guru!) before posting this and have their OK to go forward. So don't > waste BW by flaming me! geez, Chuck... how Sr. ARE you??? ;-) and Greg, thanks for the info re: 2500 memory _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19257&t=19185 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619]
Hi all -- I'm suffering thru a terrible newbies type problem and cannot seem to identify the error of my ways. I know it's something very basic -- and it brings back memories of high school geometry homework where I stared at objects for hours on end trying to understand!!! The thrust of my pitiful situation is: I cannot "ping" from hyperterminal -- altho' I can readily "ping" from a DOS prompt on the same PC. I have the parameters set properly 8-N-1-None -- and I have tried with the TFTP server setup on the same PC and on another in my home network (I have 10 pcs in my home network -- most old -- but they still work!). Neither works. Any suggestions. And please don't waste time flaming me -- I know I should be able to figure this out -- but even after researching the archives and CCO, I am no closer to a solution than I am to passing the LAB on the first try! So any and all helpful suggestions would be welcome. Thanks to all -- in advance!! Greg Macaulay Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=56619&t=56619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619]
I do understand the basics -- but I'm not able to ping anything from hyperterminal -- (1) the router, (2) the PC -- but I am able to ping the router from DOS. My problem arose when I was unable to "copy flash tftp" I tried by process of elimination to id the problem -- and it seemed to be hyperterminal. However, in the past few moments, someone else wrote to me and inquired about my hub (10/100 or 100!) -- mine is 100 only. Thus, the routers (at 10) would not communicate. I'm going to try and swap out the hub and see if this helps. I'm not a 100% certain that this will fix the problem -- but I'm going to try it and see. One never knows. Be back in a few . . . . Greg Macaulay Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor > -Original Message- > From: Harold Monroe [mailto:HMonroe@;DTCCORP.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:07 PM > To: 'Greg Macaulay'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619] > > > When you ping from the DOS prompt you are pinging from your > computer to the > router , when you ping in hyperterminal you are pinging from the router to > your PC (or whatever other devices you have on your network). > > DOS Prompt (your PC) ---Ping--> router > Hyperterminal (router) --- Ping ---> PC > > If this wasn't what you were referring to, in hyperterminal are > you able to > ping the router, if not something is wrong on the router setup? > > Are you able to ping the PC from hyperterminal (i.e. the router)? > > Are you able to ping the router from DOS? > -Original Message- > From: Greg Macaulay [mailto:gmac115@;cox.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619] > > Hi all -- > > I'm suffering thru a terrible newbies type problem and > cannot seem to > identify the error of my ways. I know it's something very > basic -- and it > brings back memories of high school geometry homework where > I stared at > objects for hours on end trying to understand!!! > > The thrust of my pitiful situation is: I cannot "ping" from > hyperterminal -- > altho' I can readily "ping" from a DOS prompt on the same > PC. > > I have the parameters set properly 8-N-1-None -- and I have > tried with the > TFTP server setup on the same PC and on another in my home > network (I have > 10 pcs in my home network -- most old -- but they still > work!). Neither > works. > > Any suggestions. And please don't waste time flaming me -- > I know I should > be able to figure this out -- but even after researching the > archives and > CCO, I am no closer to a solution than I am to passing the > LAB on the first > try! > > So any and all helpful suggestions would be welcome. > > Thanks to all -- in advance!! > Greg Macaulay > Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab > Lifetime AARP member > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=56626&t=56619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619]
It's not nice to "flame" an "active" member of the Bar who is still in "good standing" Alzheimer's (Cisco type) may indeed be overtaking me here, but my "legal" brain cells are still quite sharp. So "flame" me at your own risk! Perhaps I can obtain "enuf" from a lawsuit to purchase an ISDN simulator Don't anybody take the above para in the wrong vein! I was simply having a bad day (and then I had to take my grandchildren "trick or treating" for hours -- while I searched through my Alzheimer-ridden brain cells to identify a solution to my problem. Now back to my problem. Greg Macaulay Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of > Tom Lisa > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619] > > > Priscilla, > > The real reason not to flame him is because he may come out of retirement > and sue all of us! :) > > Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI > Community College of Southern Nevada > Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy > "Cunctando restituit rem" > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > I wouldn't flame the oldest CCDP on the planet ;-), but, what do you > mean > you can't ping from HyperTerminal? HyperTerminal just gets you serial > access > to the console port. > > Priscilla > > Greg Macaulay wrote: > > > > Hi all -- > > > > I'm suffering thru a terrible newbies type problem and cannot > > seem to > > identify the error of my ways. I know it's something very > > basic -- and it > > brings back memories of high school geometry homework where I > > stared at > > objects for hours on end trying to understand!!! > > > > The thrust of my pitiful situation is: I cannot "ping" from > > hyperterminal -- > > altho' I can readily "ping" from a DOS prompt on the same PC. > > > > I have the parameters set properly 8-N-1-None -- and I have > > tried with the > > TFTP server setup on the same PC and on another in my home > > network (I have > > 10 pcs in my home network -- most old -- but they still > > work!). Neither > > works. > > > > Any suggestions. And please don't waste time flaming me -- I > > know I should > > be able to figure this out -- but even after researching the > > archives and > > CCO, I am no closer to a solution than I am to passing the LAB > > on the first > > try! > > > > So any and all helpful suggestions would be welcome. > > > > Thanks to all -- in advance!! > > Greg Macaulay > > Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab > > Lifetime AARP member > > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=56696&t=56619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619]
> I had a new theory about what would cause his symptoms, or at least what I > think his symptoms are: > > PC can ping router. > PC can Telnet to router?? (we're not sure if he's Telnetting or not) > Router can't ping PC. > Router can't TFTP a file to the PC. > > Possible explanation: the PC is running a firewall! From my > knowledge of the default behavior of many personal firewalls, this seems rather likely. > > There could be an access list on the router too that could cause this. Sorry about not replying last nite -- I ran out of time and had to take my grandchildren "trick or treatin'" -- but I appreciate all the input. First -- I am not running an access list. I just got this router (2511) and wanted to configure it, including upgrading the IOS (existing IOS 10.2(4)). Thus, I first wanted to copy the flash to the tftp server. Apparently, this is where I have gone wrong!! With my advanced age as an "excuse" -- from hyperterminal I merely typed in "copy flash tftp" and was unsucessful: TermServer>enable Password: TermServer#copy flash tftp System flash directory: File Length Name/status 1 4404136 ij10240 [4404200 bytes used, 12373016 available, 16777216 total] Address or name of remote host [GREG]? Source file name? ij10240 Destination file name [ij10240]? Verifying checksum for 'ij10240' (file # 1)... OK Copy 'ij10240' from Flash to server as 'ij10240'? [yes/no]y . Copy aborted - TFTP timeout TermServer# This procedure has worked flawlessly for the past couple of years. The sole difference in my network now is that I have installed a Linksys cable modem and hub (100). That being said -- I wonder if Priscilla's last theory might be the culprit. My cable-modem router runs NAT. SO I'll do some exploring and investigating and get back to all of you later today. ' Thanks again for the assistance. I know my question (at least at my level of training) may seem dumb, but as a professor I used to tell my students, "The only dumb question is the one that is NOT asked!!!" So be patient and forgive me for my apparent lack of ability to resolve this issue myself! Greg Macaulay Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=56698&t=56619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619]
Stop the presses -- I solved the problem (1) I needed to have connectivity between the router and my LAN. So I connected the E0 interface to the Cable-Modem Router (10/100). (2) Then I configured the E0 interface to be on the same subnet as my LAN. And much to my "aged" amazement (and relief!) -- it worked. BTW -- one can ping in hyperterminal -- from the router to the PCs on the LAN. Cork>ping 192.168.1.101 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.1.101, timeout is 2 seconds: ! Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/2/4 ms Cork>ping 192.168.1.103 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.1.103, timeout is 2 seconds: ! Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/2/4 ms Cork> Lastly, thanks for your offers of assistance. I do feel a bit stupid in bothering everyone. But it's been a few months since I fired up these routers and I overlooked some basics!! Oh well . . . . Thanks again -- and I owe you one. Greg Macaulay Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:00 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619] > > > Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote: > > > > > How can you ping from a DOS prompt if the destination is > > crossing a repeater > > with a speed mismatch? A FastEthernet-only hub won't allow > > comms between > > 10Mb/s devices, so if you wouldn't have any visibility to that > > device, > > whether from a DOS prompt, Hyperterminal, or anything... > > > Good point. If a station can send a packet, such as a ping, it's unlikely > that there are any physical or data-link-layer problems. If it > can't receive > a packet, it makes sense to look above those layers. There are some > unidirectional problems, but they are pretty rare. Some > protocols, including > STP, deal with the infamous "one-way connectivity" problem, but I bet it > happens pretty rarely. > > I had a new theory about what would cause his symptoms, or at least what I > think his symptoms are: > > PC can ping router. > PC can Telnet to router?? (we're not sure if he's Telnetting or not) > Router can't ping PC. > Router can't TFTP a file to the PC. > > Possible explanation: the PC is running a firewall! From my > knowledge of the > default behavior of many personal firewalls, this seems rather likely. > > There could be an access list on the router too that could cause this. > > Gotta run. I promise no more messages on this topic! ;-) > > ___ > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > www.troubleshootingnetworks.com > www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=56713&t=56619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619]
Yep -- that was mean!! Fortunately I have a thick "litigator" skin!!! To be honest, I don't pretend to be a "know-it-all" in this field -- simply an ardent career-changer (after 27 years as a professor/attorney) and am enjoying the intellectual challenge of learning new subject matter. As for your remarks -- while it doesn't bother me personally -- think about the "chilling effect" of caustic criticism on other newbies and persons who have temporarily lost their way and need to reach out for help. I thought that's what this list was all about. We are here to help one another to learn and hopefully master this subject matter. While some members are at more advanced stages than others, it doesn't help to rub it in, when someone makes a faux pas. Otherwise, we're going to have more lurkers and fewer active participants!!! I know that I am somewhat intimidated to ask for help -- when I've seen the extraneous unnecessary remarks directed towards the seekers of help! Instead of laying out my questions more frequently, I tend to do the research myself -- which is both good and bad. This list is a learning tool -- for everyone! I think if someone possesses the knowledge to help others and they are willing to offer such advice and info -- they should limit themselves to the giving of the advice and restrain their instincts to rip someone to shreds for asking a "stupid question" -- or -- asking it in a stupid manner!!! Just my .02 cents!! -- as I'm putting on my asbestos suit in preparation of being flamed! Have a great weekend! Greg Macaulay Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com] > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 5:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619] > > > OK, sorry, that was mean. :-] > > I'll spell it out instead. > > When you use HyperTerminal, you are essentially turning your PC into a > keyboard with a CRT, or what used to be called a Dumb Terminal. > The paradigm > for Cisco router management comes from the days before personal computers. > Teletype typewriter-like devices attached to the console port of > a mainframe > or minicomputer. Then, an advancement occurred and terminals got > Cathode Ray > Tubes (CRTs!) But they were essentially still just typewriters > with a video > display. That's what your PC becomes when you use HyperTerminal. > > There's some good history at this site which talks about the DEC VT100 > terminal: > > http://www.cs.utk.edu/~shuford/terminal/dec.html > > Whether you use HyperTerminal in serial COM1 or Telnet TCP/IP > Winsock mode, > you are esentially still just typing on a typewriter that > controls the router. > > When you type ping, it works because the Cisco IOS has a ping > command. It's > no different that what happens when you type "show run" or those other > commands I mentioned. > > Priscilla > > > Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote: > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > > > >You can "erase startup" and "reload" in HyperTerminal too. > > >I highly recommend you try it. Let us know what happens. > > > > > > > April Fools Day come early or late this year?? ;) > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com] > > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:56 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619] > > > > > > Greg Macaulay wrote: > > > > > > Stop the presses -- > > > > > > I solved the problem > > > > Great! > > > > > > > > (1) I needed to have connectivity between the router and my > > LAN. So I > > > connected the E0 interface to the Cable-Modem Router (10/100). > > > (2) Then I configured the E0 interface to be on the same > > subnet > > > as my LAN. > > > > > > And much to my "aged" amazement (and relief!) -- it worked. > > > > > > BTW -- one can ping in hyperterminal -- from the router to > > the PCs on > > > the LAN. > > > > > > Cork>ping 192.168.1.101 > > > > How can you be a lawyer and be OK with using such imprecise > > language as > > "ping in HyperTerminal." Please assure me that you understand > > what you're > > really doing when you type characters in HyperTerminal. > > > > You can "erase startup" and "reload" in HyperTerminal too. I &g
List of Security Refernces in MCNS Book [7:60363]
Hi all, Call me lazy (but not OLD!) but has anyone extracted a typed list of the Chapter References in the Cisco PRess MCNS book? If so, could you forward the list to me. I'm compiling a list of security references -- for use in my security studies -- and am hoping to use this as a jumping off point (I do realize that some of these references are outdated -- but it's only a starting point -- not an ending point!) I simply do not have enough time left in this life to individually type all these references. I am hoping to compile a fairly comprehensive list and then share it with everyone (probably on a web site.) Nope -- this is NOT aimed at certification -- rather it will be a byproduct to help us get some grounding and more than passing familiarity in the security field. Also, I'm certain that there are numerous web sites containg such lists already published -- but as a senior citizen, I'm not aware of all of them. So feel free to contribute listings and suggestions -- !! Greg Macaulay Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60363&t=60363 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 640-442 MCNS [7:60517]
Hi Shawn -- The 1/17/03 deadline for the MCNS -- does that apply to the other three security exams also?? Do you have a CCO page where this info is avaiable?? Thanks in advance. Greg Macaulay Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Kaminski, Shawn G > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: 640-442 MCNS [7:60517] > > > You probably already know this, but the last day you can register for this > exam is 1/17/03 and the last day you can take it is 2/28/03. > After that, the > MCNS 640-442 exam is replaced with the new MCNS 640-100. Just wanted to > mention it in so you don't study 640-442 materials and get surprised with > the 640-100 exam! > > Shawn K. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Joseph R. Taylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:43 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:640-442 MCNS [7:60517] > > > > Can anyone recommend quality practice tests for the 640-442 MCNS > > certification? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=61118&t=60517 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Online rack rental for PIX / CSS1-recommendation [7:61271]
Hi all -- Does anyone have a recommendation for online lab rental for the PIX and VPN courses for the CSS1. Today is the last day to register for the old exams and I'm considering making the effort to take the exams. Thanks in advance. Greg Macaulay Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=61271&t=61271 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written changed ? [7:48730]
There's a message from earlier this week from Cisco that says July 31/August 1. But who knows ... it could be anytime. I'm actually on my way to take the 350-001 in about 30 minutes. SO it had better not be changed yet!!!!!!! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth (57 on 1/15/02) Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 1:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCIE Written changed ? [7:48730] > > > I know that they had a beta out for the CCIE written, and that it isn't in > beta any more. Can someone tell me if they have actually changed the > written yet, or a date when they are planning to? > > Thanks, > > Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=48736&t=48730 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what to put ???? [7:51574]
Chuck -- Another thought on this -- A section entitled "Certifications and Examinations." First list the certifications, then skipping a line -- list the successful examinations. e.g. CVoice (Cisco Voice over IP Examination) CCIE Qualification Examination (Written) This accomplished two objectives. First to inform the reader that the applicant is pursuing additional certifications, and second to clearly delineate the Examinations from the Certifications so that there is no question as to the honesty of the applicant. Just my thoughts -- but remember there are many ways to "legally" and "honestly" skin a cat!!! Greg Macaulay Oldest Preparing CCIE Lab Examinee on Earth Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Chuck's Long Road > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 5:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: what to put [7:51574] > > > for those wrestling with the question of certification notations > on resumes, > how about this for a thought. > > In a section separate from experience, and separate from fully achieved > certifications, a section titled something like: > > Certifications in progress: > > CCNP - BCRAN > CIPT - Cvoice, DQoS > etc etc > > that way it is clear that these have not been achieved, but are actively > being pursued. > > > Personally, I'm from the school of thought that says that one > does not claim > to be an MBA until one has finished the program, and one is not a CCIE / > written or a CCNP / Routing Test completed > > My resume is probably thinner than I could make it if I didn't hold this > belief. But that's just me. > > > > ""Juan Blanco"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Team, > > What do you put on your resume when you pass any one test of > the Security > > Specialization or the Voice Track. > > > > For example: > > If you pass the MCNS test you should put the following: > > Cisco Certified Network Professional - Security Specialization (MCNS) > > > > If you pass the CVOICE test you should put the following: > > Cisco Certified Network Professional - Voice Specialization (CVOICE) > > > > > > I have seem some people that they have on their resume CSS1 (how do you > > translate this symbol) - Does it means a person > > that took the four security test. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Juan Blanco > > > > The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, > > but in rising every time we fall ." > > -- Nelson Mandela > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=52370&t=51574 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCSP-PIX Exam & Hello Computers [7:74743]
Hi all, I'm trying to prepare for the PIX/MCNS/VPN exams as a break in my preparing for the R&S lab (1st try!!!). However, I do not have the necessary equipment and my boss (my dear wife!!) will not permit me to even look at ebay, let alone buy anything else. Oh well!! The only Rack Rental site that seems to have a PIX is Hello Computers. There may be more, but this old mind has yet to uncover them. Any help/assistance in that regard would be greatly appreciated (Remember helping the old and infirm gets you brownie points when its time to decide whether you go UP or DOWN on the afterlife elevator!!!). As for Hello Computers, it seems that they have NOT updated their CSS1 package for the CCSP (either for the tests being retired or the new ones about to make their debut!) For example, they don't have anything mentioned about the PDM. That being said, keeping the NDA in the forefront of everyone's mind -- has anyone had any experience -- good or bad -- with Hello Computers regarding the CCSP?? Does anyone have any reliable info on rack rentals for the CCSP? (See similar question above! ) Thanks in advance to all who may reach out to help the old and inform!!! Greg Macaulay Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab Lifetime AARP member Retired Attorney/Law Professor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=74743&t=74743 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
