Static routes in CCIE LAB (definietion) [7:8515]
When doing the CCIE LAB, one of the first statements is not to use any static routes if they don't specifically ask for it. Now is a static route only commands starting with "ip route .." or does this include commands like: "ip default-network" "ip default-gateway" "default-information originate" Thanks Jacques Allison CCNP + Security, CCDP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8515&t=8515 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE lab? [7:8440]
Anyone got any advice on equipment that should go into CCIE lab. What has worked for you. I know that the Cisco web site has the lab equipment list but what I want to know is LITERALLY what equipment do you have in your lab or do you know of that has worked for others. Thanks. . this site is awesome? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8440&t=8440 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab prep. Is there a syllabus? [7:8385]
check out i.p. experts ccie workbook. i just got a copy of it and it lays out each section for you covering every topic that can possibly be on the lab. there is also an advanced section with 5 simulated labs - (one of them is very close to a lab my friend had!) he actually said that the advanced labs in the workbook are probably harder than the real ccie lab. (my opinion is that it's better material than ccbootcamp with cheaper racktime!) JD CCNA, CNE, (CCIE Written) Telesys, Inc. - Springfield, IL ""Chris Rock"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I just passed the CCIE R&S written, and prepared for this exam using the > road map posted on the Cisco web site. > > Is there a similar document for the lab? > > I asked one of the CCIE's here at work, and he told me to study > "Everything". Needless to say, this was not helpful. > > Is there something that will place some specific boundaries on what you need > to study? > > I have seen info that EXCLUDES certain topics (X.25, Decnet, Vines...), but > nothing that INCLUDES anything. > > thanks > > Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8422&t=8385 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE lab prep. Is there a syllabus? [7:8385]
I just passed the CCIE R&S written, and prepared for this exam using the road map posted on the Cisco web site. Is there a similar document for the lab? I asked one of the CCIE's here at work, and he told me to study "Everything". Needless to say, this was not helpful. Is there something that will place some specific boundaries on what you need to study? I have seen info that EXCLUDES certain topics (X.25, Decnet, Vines...), but nothing that INCLUDES anything. thanks Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8385&t=8385 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FYI: CCIE Lab Scheduling [7:8342]
There are that many people taking the lab. I'm sure Cisco is doing whatever they can to ease this backload. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 6/13/2001 at 10:54 AM Andrew Shappell wrote: >Greetings, > I just scheduled my CCIE R&S Lab and found it rather interesting that the >first available dates in RTP are either in two weeks, 6/26/01, or the >middle >of February 2002. San Jose was not much better. Either today, 6/13/01, or >the middle of the January 2002. I chose the February date because I needed >the time to make travel arrangements and to do a little more studying. I >was >hoping to take the Lab some time this fall, but I guess that is not going >to >happen. I can't believe there is a six to eight month wait to take the >Lab. > I passed the written Exam in late March 2001. If I would have waited much >longer to schedule the Lab I may have had to take the Written Exam again. >I >think it is time that Cisco looks at adding some additional testing >facilities or additional seats the existing sites. Any ideas why there is >a >6 to 8 month wait for Lab Exams??? Are there that many people taking the >Lab Exam??? > >Andrew E. Shappell >CCNP & CCDP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8357&t=8342 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FYI: CCIE Lab Scheduling [7:8342]
Greetings, I just scheduled my CCIE R&S Lab and found it rather interesting that the first available dates in RTP are either in two weeks, 6/26/01, or the middle of February 2002. San Jose was not much better. Either today, 6/13/01, or the middle of the January 2002. I chose the February date because I needed the time to make travel arrangements and to do a little more studying. I was hoping to take the Lab some time this fall, but I guess that is not going to happen. I can't believe there is a six to eight month wait to take the Lab. I passed the written Exam in late March 2001. If I would have waited much longer to schedule the Lab I may have had to take the Written Exam again. I think it is time that Cisco looks at adding some additional testing facilities or additional seats the existing sites. Any ideas why there is a 6 to 8 month wait for Lab Exams??? Are there that many people taking the Lab Exam??? Andrew E. Shappell CCNP & CCDP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8342&t=8342 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Time for CCIE LAB?? [7:7931]
BJ, Your documentation approach will probably earn you many points in the lab. But IMHO put it on paper. The lab elves will mess with whatever they can. - susan > From: Bradley J. Wilson > One thing I'm curious about, and this is because I've found > this to be an invaluable tool to use while studying various lab scenarios - > are the PCs in the lab full Windows 9x/2k installations, including Notepad? > I've found that making a consolidated list of interfaces and associated > IP addresses, as well as a list of all networks w/ subnets being used, I can > avoid potential problems and look up what an address is supposed to be very > quickly by having it all in one (electronic) spot. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8175&t=7931 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time for CCIE LAB?? [7:7931]
Check the CCIELab archives. This was discussed in detal about two weeks ago. Paul - Original Message - From: "Bradley J. Wilson" To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Time for CCIE LAB?? [7:7931] > One thing I'm curious about, and this is because I've found this to be an > invaluable tool to use while studying various lab scenarios - are the PCs in > the lab full Windows 9x/2k installations, including Notepad? I've found > that making a consolidated list of interfaces and associated IP addresses, > as well as a list of all networks w/ subnets being used, I can avoid > potential problems and look up what an address is supposed to be very > quickly by having it all in one (electronic) spot. > > If someone can comment about this within the NDA specifications, I'd be > grateful. > > BJ > > > - Original Message - > From: McClendon Susan Contr AEDC/ACS > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM > Subject: RE: Time for CCIE LAB?? [7:7931] > > > Faisal, > This is my understanding of CCIE lab scheduling: >You get scheduled for the 1st slot available. >If you have to take it again, must wait 30 days between attempts. >If you break the code of conduct, must wait a year before next attempt. > > >CCIE LAB Code of Conduct > > > >The following rules apply to the conduct of the 2-day CCIE lab exam. > >Please be prepared to follow these rules. > > > >1.) DO NOT bring any notes or documentation into the lab. All the Cisco > >documentation you > > require to complete the lab tests is provided in the lab in hardcopy > >and CD-Rom media. > > The lab engineer is a resource: you are free to ask for assistance in > > >locating material > > inside the lab. > > > >2.) DO NOT confer or consult with anyone but the lab engineer about the > >tests for the duration > > of the 2-day exam or after the examination. > > > >3.) No Pagers or mobile phones allowed within the lab. > > Urgent messages can be left with our main telephone number. > > > >These rules are important to the integrity of the CCIE program. The lab > >engineer will disqualify > >anyone who violates these rules and that person will not be admitted to the > > >lab again > >for at least one year. > > > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > >General Information > > > >1. Students are not allowed to bring anything into the exam room or take > >anything out. > >This includes laptops. > > > >2. Each workstation has its own PC with CD ROM and we provide the Cisco > >Documentation > >CD's during the exam. We also have command reference manuals for your use. > > > >3. Candidates will be asked to provide photo id. > > > >4. Please know your CCO UserID when you arrive for your lab examination. > > > >5. If you have any disabilities or special needs, please advise us ahead > >of time. > > > >6. Dress is casual. Wearing layered clothes is recommended so you can > >adjust to either > >cool or warm lab temperatures. > > > >7. If you arrive after 11:00 the morning of your exam, you will not be > >allowed to start. > >If you arrive between 9:00 and 11:00 we will allow you to start but you > >must finish with > >the rest of the group. > > > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=> Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8091&t=7931 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time for CCIE LAB?? [7:7931]
One thing I'm curious about, and this is because I've found this to be an invaluable tool to use while studying various lab scenarios - are the PCs in the lab full Windows 9x/2k installations, including Notepad? I've found that making a consolidated list of interfaces and associated IP addresses, as well as a list of all networks w/ subnets being used, I can avoid potential problems and look up what an address is supposed to be very quickly by having it all in one (electronic) spot. If someone can comment about this within the NDA specifications, I'd be grateful. BJ - Original Message - From: McClendon Susan Contr AEDC/ACS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM Subject: RE: Time for CCIE LAB?? [7:7931] Faisal, This is my understanding of CCIE lab scheduling: You get scheduled for the 1st slot available. If you have to take it again, must wait 30 days between attempts. If you break the code of conduct, must wait a year before next attempt. >CCIE LAB Code of Conduct > >The following rules apply to the conduct of the 2-day CCIE lab exam. >Please be prepared to follow these rules. > >1.) DO NOT bring any notes or documentation into the lab. All the Cisco >documentation you > require to complete the lab tests is provided in the lab in hardcopy >and CD-Rom media. > The lab engineer is a resource: you are free to ask for assistance in >locating material > inside the lab. > >2.) DO NOT confer or consult with anyone but the lab engineer about the >tests for the duration > of the 2-day exam or after the examination. > >3.) No Pagers or mobile phones allowed within the lab. > Urgent messages can be left with our main telephone number. > >These rules are important to the integrity of the CCIE program. The lab >engineer will disqualify >anyone who violates these rules and that person will not be admitted to the >lab again >for at least one year. > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > >General Information > >1. Students are not allowed to bring anything into the exam room or take >anything out. >This includes laptops. > >2. Each workstation has its own PC with CD ROM and we provide the Cisco >Documentation >CD's during the exam. We also have command reference manuals for your use. > >3. Candidates will be asked to provide photo id. > >4. Please know your CCO UserID when you arrive for your lab examination. > >5. If you have any disabilities or special needs, please advise us ahead >of time. > >6. Dress is casual. Wearing layered clothes is recommended so you can >adjust to either >cool or warm lab temperatures. > >7. If you arrive after 11:00 the morning of your exam, you will not be >allowed to start. >If you arrive between 9:00 and 11:00 we will allow you to start but you >must finish with >the rest of the group. > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=> Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8083&t=7931 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Time for CCIE LAB?? [7:7931]
Faisal, This is my understanding of CCIE lab scheduling: You get scheduled for the 1st slot available. If you have to take it again, must wait 30 days between attempts. If you break the code of conduct, must wait a year before next attempt. >CCIE LAB Code of Conduct > >The following rules apply to the conduct of the 2-day CCIE lab exam. >Please be prepared to follow these rules. > >1.) DO NOT bring any notes or documentation into the lab. All the Cisco >documentation you > require to complete the lab tests is provided in the lab in hardcopy >and CD-Rom media. > The lab engineer is a resource: you are free to ask for assistance in >locating material > inside the lab. > >2.) DO NOT confer or consult with anyone but the lab engineer about the >tests for the duration > of the 2-day exam or after the examination. > >3.) No Pagers or mobile phones allowed within the lab. > Urgent messages can be left with our main telephone number. > >These rules are important to the integrity of the CCIE program. The lab >engineer will disqualify >anyone who violates these rules and that person will not be admitted to the >lab again >for at least one year. > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > >General Information > >1. Students are not allowed to bring anything into the exam room or take >anything out. >This includes laptops. > >2. Each workstation has its own PC with CD ROM and we provide the Cisco >Documentation >CD's during the exam. We also have command reference manuals for your use. > >3. Candidates will be asked to provide photo id. > >4. Please know your CCO UserID when you arrive for your lab examination. > >5. If you have any disabilities or special needs, please advise us ahead >of time. > >6. Dress is casual. Wearing layered clothes is recommended so you can >adjust to either >cool or warm lab temperatures. > >7. If you arrive after 11:00 the morning of your exam, you will not be >allowed to start. >If you arrive between 9:00 and 11:00 we will allow you to start but you >must finish with >the rest of the group. > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=> Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7968&t=7931 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Time for CCIE LAB?? [7:7931]
The answers to all your questions are available at: http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/625/ccie/ccie_program/policies.html I hope this helps. Feargal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Faisal Athar Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 8:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Time for CCIE LAB?? [7:7931] Hi, Any body knows after passing written(R&S) ,How much max time we have to go for First Lab attempt?? AFter first attmept??How much time we get more for 2nd atttempt.?? Please solve the confusion. Thanks. Faisal. Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7934&t=7931 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time for CCIE LAB?? [7:7931]
After a couple of minutes of searching on CCO I found the following: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/policies.html Written Exam Expiry Candidates must attempt the CCIE Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. As long as a candidate attempts the CCIE Lab at least once every 12 months, the candidate may take up to three years to pass the Lab Exam. However, if a candidate has not passed the CCIE Lab exam within three years of passing the written exam, he or she must retake the CCIE Qualification exam before the candidate will be allowed to schedule the Lab exam again. HTH, John | Hi, | | Any body knows after passing written(R&S) ,How much max time we have to go | for | First Lab attempt?? | | AFter first attmept??How much time we get more for 2nd atttempt.?? | | Please solve the confusion. | | | Thanks. | | Faisal. | | | Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 | | | | ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7936&t=7931 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE LAB - Help me please [7:7875]
Iyuri, What I would suggest is that you design a rack consisting of a frame relay cloud (one router w/ multiple serial ints) with 3 routers attached. You will need this to accomplish the various Frame Relay / OSPF combos. You're also going to want (at least) one router hanging from your frame attached router via Enet or TR. I would also (if your budget allows) purchase a 3920 TR switch, a Cat 5000 and an ISDN simulator. (Obviously you're going to want two of your routers to have ISDN BRI interfaces.) If you wanted a very complete lab you can then also purchase an ATM switch and (if you've got modular routers) ATM & voice modules. This gets very costly, but if you shop around you may be able to find some deals. There are always great deals on EBAY - you may also want to check with some of the used HW vendors (http://www.networkhardware.com just to mention a one.) If your budget doesn't allow you to purchase such a large amount of HW you may just consider reserving time on some of the on-line racks that are available. Good Luck! Wayne Lawson CCIE # 5244, Cisco CCNA & CCDA, Nortel NCSE, MCSE, CNE, CNX Ethernet, CBE President - IPexpert, Inc. (http://www.IPexpert.NET) Toll Free: (866) 225 - 8064 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Iyuri Yagami"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello Everybody, > > I want to build my own CCIE lab at my home. > I dont know exactly that how many routers I may need for the lab purpose. > I have 1 Cisco 4000 series router (4 serial + 2 Ethernet), 1 Cisco 2503 and 1 > Cisco 2509 router. I dont know exactly that how many routers I may need to > complete all scenarios. > > Please guide me ... and send me a list of router which I may need to > complete all scenarios. > > Thanks > > Iyuri Yagami > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7930&t=7875 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Time for CCIE LAB?? [7:7931]
Hi, Any body knows after passing written(R&S) ,How much max time we have to go for First Lab attempt?? AFter first attmept??How much time we get more for 2nd atttempt.?? Please solve the confusion. Thanks. Faisal. Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7931&t=7931 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE LAB - Help me please [7:7875]
Hello Everybody, I want to build my own CCIE lab at my home. I dont know exactly that how many routers I may need for the lab purpose. I have 1 Cisco 4000 series router (4 serial + 2 Ethernet), 1 Cisco 2503 and 1 Cisco 2509 router. I dont know exactly that how many routers I may need to complete all scenarios. Please guide me ... and send me a list of router which I may need to complete all scenarios. Thanks Iyuri Yagami Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7875&t=7875 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want to build CCIE lab in my home [7:7853]
Iyuri, On top of what you already have, you will also need: A router with one FE (10/100) Ethernet port for ISL/dot1q vlan trunking 2 x Routers with voice capabilities for the VOIP bits a Cat 5002 would be nice for pracising VLAN's etc. A router with 4 serial WAN ports to try out Frame Relay etc. 2 routers with ISDN capability with either an ISDN simulator or a real line. I don't know about the ATM side of things A LAN Analyzer Software on a PC would be useful to decipher packets etc. I think you should be set. btw I never did get FTP working on your server. Rashid Lohiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] 020 8509 2990 07785 362626 www.pioneer-computers.com London UK "Iyuri Yagami" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello Everybody, > > I want to build my own CCIE lab at my home. > I dont know exactly that how many routers I may need for the lab purpose. > I have 1 Cisco 4000 series router (4 serial + 2 Ethernet), 1 Cisco 2503 and 1 > Cisco 2509 router. I dont know exactly that how many routers I may need to > complete all scenarios. > > Please guide me ... > > Thanks > > Iyuri Yagami > > > > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7860&t=7853 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want to build CCIE lab in my home [7:7853]
Many people use the CCbootcamp lab scenarios to prepare for the CCIE lab. At http://www.ccbootcamp.com/ there are diagrams of the hardware they rent out that will be able to accomodate all their lab exercises. If you look at their hardware layout it will give you a good feel for what is in a well equipped lab. You may not be able to afford all the items they have (Like ATM and an ISDN simulator) but most people that i see that are serious about preparing for the CCIE spring for 7-8 routers and a CAT5000 switch. Some get by with less some have more. It depends on your situation. There is some real good info on the CCbootcamp site on what equipment you will need what books and preperation strategies. I am not at that level yet but it gave me a good idea of what i should purchase now for my professional certs that will scale well into a CCIE lab. HTH. Ed Dombrowski ""Iyuri Yagami"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello Everybody, > > I want to build my own CCIE lab at my home. > I dont know exactly that how many routers I may need for the lab purpose. > I have 1 Cisco 4000 series router (4 serial + 2 Ethernet), 1 Cisco 2503 and 1 > Cisco 2509 router. I dont know exactly that how many routers I may need to > complete all scenarios. > > Please guide me ... > > Thanks > > Iyuri Yagami > > > > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7858&t=7853 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I want to build CCIE lab in my home [7:7853]
Hello Everybody, I want to build my own CCIE lab at my home. I dont know exactly that how many routers I may need for the lab purpose. I have 1 Cisco 4000 series router (4 serial + 2 Ethernet), 1 Cisco 2503 and 1 Cisco 2509 router. I dont know exactly that how many routers I may need to complete all scenarios. Please guide me ... Thanks Iyuri Yagami Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7853&t=7853 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab [7:7828]
Hello Everybody ! Can anybody tell me that how many routers and switches I may need for CCIE Lab. Please give me correct lab configuration. I am going to buy some routers for my home lab. I will appreciate if you can let me know no and model of router to complete all scenarios. Thanks Iyuri Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7828&t=7828 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab [7:7827]
Hello Everybody ! Can anybody tell me that how many routers and switches I may need for CCIE Lab. Please give me correct lab configuration. I am going to buy some routers for my home lab. I will appreciate if you can let me know no and model of router to complete all scenarios. Thanks Iyuri Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7827&t=7827 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab [7:7826]
Hello Everybody ! Can anybody tell me that how many routers and switches I may need for CCIE Lab. Please give me correct lab configuration. I am going to buy some routers for my home lab. I will appreciate if you can let me know no and model of router to complete all scenarios. Thanks Iyuri Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7826&t=7826 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab date swap [7:7582]
Michael - try posting on the CCIE Lab list, too - you'll have to subscribe to it first, I believe see http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html -e- - Original Message - From: "Michael Lea" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: CCIE Lab date swap [7:7582] > I currently have a date of Aug 12, 13 for RTP and I would like trade for a > date in October for Canada or RTP. Please send me a email if you are > interested in trading dates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7587&t=7582 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: IPexperts CCIE LAB Workbook [7:6516]
Oops..forget to cc group... thanks, rahul, - Original Message - From: "Rahul Kachalia" To: "Bill Heaton" Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: Re: IPexperts CCIE LAB Workbook [7:6516] > Hi Bill, > > I just start reviewing looks great to me..it has different scenario's > with detail configs..I am still reviewing but so it looks its great.. > > thanks, > rahul. > cisco systems. > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Heaton" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:55 PM > Subject: IPexperts CCIE LAB Workbook [7:6516] > > > > Has anyone used the IPexperts CCIE Routing and Switching lab preparation > > workbook? The site I found it at was www.ipexpert.net. I reviewed the > free > > sample IPX lab and it looks great. I liked the technical depth of each > > task, the technical tips, and the instructors notes provided at the end. > > Can anyone provide me any information on their experience with this > workbook > > before I purchase it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bill Heaton > > Network Analyst > > CCNP, CCNA, CBE > > > > > > _ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=6530&t=6516 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPexperts CCIE LAB Workbook [7:6516]
Has anyone used the IPexperts CCIE Routing and Switching lab preparation workbook? The site I found it at was www.ipexpert.net. I reviewed the free sample IPX lab and it looks great. I liked the technical depth of each task, the technical tips, and the instructors notes provided at the end. Can anyone provide me any information on their experience with this workbook before I purchase it? Thanks, Bill Heaton Network Analyst CCNP, CCNA, CBE _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=6516&t=6516 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab dates for RTP [7:6281]
I was wondering if anyone is wanting to change a lab date in the near future for the RTP Routing and Switching Lab. I have a lab date for the 1/24/02 and don't want to wait that long. I was also wondering if anyone has figured out how to put your name on the waiting list via the web. I have called Cisco, but I not heard anything back yet. Thanks for any responses Aaron Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=6281&t=6281 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab setup [7:4872]
You'll need to be able to setup the 2511 for term server/console connections to the LAB routers. Look at the Cisco CCIE Routing Webpage and click the equipment list link to see what they use in the CCIE Lab - that will probably answer some of your questions about whether to replace or not. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html It's true the modular routers will hold their value better, but so do the multiport 2500's as so kindly pointed out when I asked for help on the mailing list with my lab setup. -e- - Original Message - From: "Rashid Lohiya" To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:36 AM Subject: CCIE Lab setup [7:4872] > Hi, > > my currently lab setup at home.I need a little advice. > > I am thinking of replacing my collection of 25xx routers with modular > routers to practise lab scenarios for CCIE. > > Please can you advise whether it would be advisable to get rid of my 2511 > and buy a 2-Port Asynch NM to give my my 16 Asych RJ45 feeds. > > I am also thinking of buying a 4-Port Serial T1 Card for my 3600, to give me > 6 Serial interfaces to practise most FR scenarios, instead of buying a > 2521/2522. > > coupled with my regular 2600 with FE, 1003, and 2 x 1750's 4v's (2xFXS Cards > & Bri) . I think I should have enough routers to practise even complex > scenarios. > > I believe the modular routers will hold their value better than the 2500's. > > Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated > > Rashid Lohiya > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 020 8509 2990 > 07785 362626 > www.pioneer-computers.com > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=6091&t=4872 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab setup [7:4872]
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Rashid Lohiya wrote: > Hi, > > my currently lab setup at home.I need a little advice. > > I am thinking of replacing my collection of 25xx routers with modular > routers to practise lab scenarios for CCIE. > > Please can you advise whether it would be advisable to get rid of my 2511 > and buy a 2-Port Asynch NM to give my my 16 Asych RJ45 feeds. > > I am also thinking of buying a 4-Port Serial T1 Card for my 3600, to give me > 6 Serial interfaces to practise most FR scenarios, instead of buying a > 2521/2522. bad idea in my opinion. A NM-4T is going to cost you $1000-$2000. In contrast, an FSIP4 for a 7000 is only about $200. FSIP8 about $500. NP-4T (4000 series) $400. See my point? > > coupled with my regular 2600 with FE, 1003, and 2 x 1750's 4v's (2xFXS Cards > & Bri) . I think I should have enough routers to practise even complex > scenarios. > > I believe the modular routers will hold their value better than the 2500's. > > Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated > > Rashid Lohiya > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 020 8509 2990 > 07785 362626 > www.pioneer-computers.com > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- I'm buying / selling used CISCO gear!! email me for a quote Brian Feeny,CCDP,CCNP+VAS Scarlett Parria [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 318-213-4709 318-213-4701 Netjam, LLC http://www.netjam.net 333 Texas St. VISA/MC/AMEX/COD Suite 140130 day warranty Shreveport, LA 71101 Cisco Channel Partner toll free: 866-2NETJAM phone: 318-212-0245 fax: 318-212-0246 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=6078&t=4872 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATM switch for the CCIE Lab [7:6011]
Hi, If I were to get an ATM switch for the lab, which one should I be getting at a minimum so as to practise atm? I see a cisco LS100 model but I have heard references about a 1010 model. Would someone advise me as to what should I be getting? Thank you. Kind regards, Niraj _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=6011&t=6011 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New CCIE Lab Preparation Product - IPexpert.NET (PART 2) [7:5995]
(Whoops - I accidentally hit the "send" key...-without spellchecking -ouch-) In addition to the advanced CCIE lab preparation workbook & rack access, IPexpert.NET also offers a career center - (job searching capabilities), technical chat (for study or technical related issues), a monthly mailing list (which will be written by one of the CCIE's @ IPexpert, Inc.), a CCIE lab preparation materials section and various 3rd party certification products. Also, in the near future, we will be offering a two week CCIE lab preparation course (taught by a Certified Cisco Instructor / CCIE). Have a Great Weekend! - Wayne ""Wayne Lawson"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Cisco Enthusiasts, > > I'm pleased to announce the launch of IPexpert.NET > (http://www.IPexpert.net) I have been working side-by-side > with 4 other CCIE's to develop an exceptional CCIE Lab > preparation resource with over 90 hours of technically advanced > material. The workbook has been designed around a standard > rack topology (13 routers, an ATM switch, FR, ISDN and Voice) > and consists of 20 chapters. (See our website for a table of contents > and sample / downloadable labs.) Currently an on-line rack > can be rented at a rate of $50.00 for 12 hours. (We will be adding > racks 2 & 3 within the next month.) For more info on the CCIE > Workbook product, rack access & techincal BIOs on the developers > of this product please check out our website! > > Thanks! - Wayne > > Wayne Lawson > CCIE # 5244, Cisco CCNA & CCDA > Nortel NCSE, MCSE, CNE, CBE, CNX Ethernet > Technical Editor: Configuring Cisco AVVID, and BCRAN (Syngress Media) > President & CEO - IPexpert, Inc. > URL: http://www.IPexpert.NET > Voice (Toll Free): 866.225.8064 > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=5995&t=5995 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New CCIE Lab Preparation Product - IPexpert.NET [7:5990]
Cisco Enthusiasts, I'm pleased to announce the launch of IPexpert.NET (http://www.IPexpert.net) I have been working side-by-side with 4 other CCIE's to develope an exceptional CCIE Lab preparation resource with over 90 hours of technically advanced material. The workbook has been designed around a standard rack topology (13 routers, an ATM switch, FR, ISDN and Voice) and consists of 20 chapters. (See our website for a table of contents and sample / downloadable labs.) Currently an on-line rack can be rented at a rate of $50.00 for 12 hours. (We will be adding racks 2 & 3 within the next month.) For more info on the CCIE Workbook product, rack access & techincal BIOs on the developers of this product please check out our website! Thanks! - Wayne Wayne Lawson CCIE # 5244, Cisco CCNA & CCDA Nortel NCSE, MCSE, CNE, CBE, CNX Ethernet Technical Editor: Configuring Cisco AVVID, and BCRAN (Syngress Media) President & CEO - IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.NET Voice (Toll Free): 866.225.8064 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=5990&t=5990 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab [7:5402]
Hello, my name is Pedro and I've my Lab exam schedule to June 14/15, but unfortunately I can4t do it in that date. I wonder if someone is interested in swap with me. Thanks. Pedro Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=5402&t=5402 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE LAB EXAM Arrangement [7:5158]
If you score less than 20 points on your first day you must wait 6 months. If you fail and score more than 20 points the candidate can reschedule the lab in as little as 1 month. You must attempt the lab at least once within the first year of passing the written or the candidate must sit the written again. The candidate has a total of three years to successfully pass the lab after passing the written. -Original Message- From: Mich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 9:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE LAB EXAM Arrrangment [7:5158] If a person fial the Lab exam the first time, hhow long does he have to wait before a retry? Is ther any upper limit of retry ateempts? Mic FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=5159&t=5158 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE LAB EXAM Arrrangment [7:5158]
If a person fial the Lab exam the first time, hhow long does he have to wait before a retry? Is ther any upper limit of retry ateempts? Mic Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=5158&t=5158 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab setup [7:4872]
Rashid, > I am thinking of replacing my collection of 25xx routers with modular > routers to practise lab scenarios for CCIE. You should be able to practice the majority of lab simulations on your 2500's, unless you were thinking of purchasing some ATM gear. > Please can you advise whether it would be advisable to get rid of my 2511 > and buy a 2-Port Asynch NM to give my my 16 Asych RJ45 feeds. The async modules seem very expensive and just take up a good port on your 2600/3600, that could be used for something else. If you are only using it for reverse telnet, there is no need to spend the money to upgrade to a 2600/3600. Don't forget that the 2511 also has two serial ports that can be used in your lab, a lot of people seem to think that the 2511 is only good as an access server and nothing else. > I am also thinking of buying a 4-Port Serial T1 Card for my 3600, to give me > 6 Serial interfaces to practise most FR scenarios, instead of buying a > 2521/2522. I have a 2621 and 2611 each with 2 x WIC-2T modules, for a total of eight serial ports. You can configure the routers as a frame relay switch and tunnel PVC's between individual boxes to provide an eight-way frame relay switch. This leaves the NM slots available for voice or ATM or whatever else you wanted to install. As your router is a 3600, you could also add an NM-2E2W and 2 x WIC-2T modules so rather than just four serials to a slot, you get 4 serial and 2 ethernet interfaces. Or as an added bonus a NM-1E1R2W and 2 x WIC-2T, to give you 1 ethernet, 1 token ring and 4 x serial. > coupled with my regular 2600 with FE, 1003, and 2 x 1750's 4v's (2xFXS Cards > & Bri) . I think I should have enough routers to practise even complex > scenarios. I think you would be better served by keeping the 2511 and perhaps getting rid of a 2500 (or two) to get some modules for the 3600. Hope this helps. Adam Burgess Brisbane, Australia Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4947&t=4872 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab setup [7:4872]
Hi, my currently lab setup at home.I need a little advice. I am thinking of replacing my collection of 25xx routers with modular routers to practise lab scenarios for CCIE. Please can you advise whether it would be advisable to get rid of my 2511 and buy a 2-Port Asynch NM to give my my 16 Asych RJ45 feeds. I am also thinking of buying a 4-Port Serial T1 Card for my 3600, to give me 6 Serial interfaces to practise most FR scenarios, instead of buying a 2521/2522. coupled with my regular 2600 with FE, 1003, and 2 x 1750's 4v's (2xFXS Cards & Bri) . I think I should have enough routers to practise even complex scenarios. I believe the modular routers will hold their value better than the 2500's. Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated Rashid Lohiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] 020 8509 2990 07785 362626 www.pioneer-computers.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4872&t=4872 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586]
After spending $25k your up in arms over spending $839 more? Ha! You should have started penny pinching long before now. My guess is that you would just be throwing good money after bad. ""Kin Mak"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello All, > > After spending over $25K of my own money on Cisco training within the past > 18 months, my budget is running tight. Please let me know if it is worth it > to penny pinch and save to purchase the ccbootcamp labs ($650+shipping) or > solution lab's labs ($189). Is the Solution Lab's labs sufficient enough for > practice to cover the lab test? Any comments and recommendation will be much > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Kin > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4636&t=4586 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586]
No! $25k and I am still not ready. These are just training classes to learning the necessary Cisco requirements for the lab exam. You still have to put in practical lab hours and these labs put you a step closer in passing the exam. There are a lot of people in this group that have spent more money and have on the job experience. Unfortunately for me I only have limited on the job experience. Everybody's road to CCIE is different. For me its a long and hard road. The only way I see myself achieving CCIE is to burn the midnight oil putting in a lot rack time working on these labs. Thanks for your advice anyway. Kin ""EA Louie"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Kin, > > $25k and you still aren't ready for the exam? that's a frighteningly high > investment, but I guess the cost of the Lab exam will be a relative > drop-in-the-bucket after that. > > I haven't taken either of the labs you mention, but if you haven't worked on > ATM and Voice configurations, make sure that those are included in one or > both of those labs. > > -e- > > - Original Message - > From: "Kin Mak" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:05 PM > Subject: CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586] > > > > Hello All, > > > > After spending over $25K of my own money on Cisco training within the past > > 18 months, my budget is running tight. Please let me know if it is worth > it > > to penny pinch and save to purchase the ccbootcamp labs ($650+shipping) or > > solution lab's labs ($189). Is the Solution Lab's labs sufficient enough > for > > practice to cover the lab test? Any comments and recommendation will be > much > > appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kin > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4627&t=4586 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586]
I have the CCIE Boot Camps workbook & I think it's great. Phil - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:21 PM Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586] > Kin, > > $25k and you still aren't ready for the exam? that's a frighteningly high > investment, but I guess the cost of the Lab exam will be a relative > drop-in-the-bucket after that. > > I haven't taken either of the labs you mention, but if you haven't worked on > ATM and Voice configurations, make sure that those are included in one or > both of those labs. > > -e- > > - Original Message - > From: "Kin Mak" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:05 PM > Subject: CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586] > > > > Hello All, > > > > After spending over $25K of my own money on Cisco training within the past > > 18 months, my budget is running tight. Please let me know if it is worth > it > > to penny pinch and save to purchase the ccbootcamp labs ($650+shipping) or > > solution lab's labs ($189). Is the Solution Lab's labs sufficient enough > for > > practice to cover the lab test? Any comments and recommendation will be > much > > appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kin > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4608&t=4586 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586]
You may also want to check out the labs from nantech ... www.nantech.com cheers Nnanna --- EA Louie wrote: > Kin, > > $25k and you still aren't ready for the exam? that's a frighteningly > high > investment, but I guess the cost of the Lab exam will be a relative > drop-in-the-bucket after that. > > I haven't taken either of the labs you mention, but if you haven't > worked on > ATM and Voice configurations, make sure that those are included in > one or > both of those labs. > > -e- > > - Original Message - > From: "Kin Mak" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:05 PM > Subject: CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586] > > > > Hello All, > > > > After spending over $25K of my own money on Cisco training within > the past > > 18 months, my budget is running tight. Please let me know if it is > worth > it > > to penny pinch and save to purchase the ccbootcamp labs > ($650+shipping) or > > solution lab's labs ($189). Is the Solution Lab's labs sufficient > enough > for > > practice to cover the lab test? Any comments and recommendation > will be > much > > appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kin > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Nnanna Obuba CCIE # 6586 www.nantech.com Online lab for CCIE preparation __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4605&t=4586 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586]
Kin, $25k and you still aren't ready for the exam? that's a frighteningly high investment, but I guess the cost of the Lab exam will be a relative drop-in-the-bucket after that. I haven't taken either of the labs you mention, but if you haven't worked on ATM and Voice configurations, make sure that those are included in one or both of those labs. -e- - Original Message - From: "Kin Mak" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:05 PM Subject: CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586] > Hello All, > > After spending over $25K of my own money on Cisco training within the past > 18 months, my budget is running tight. Please let me know if it is worth it > to penny pinch and save to purchase the ccbootcamp labs ($650+shipping) or > solution lab's labs ($189). Is the Solution Lab's labs sufficient enough for > practice to cover the lab test? Any comments and recommendation will be much > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Kin > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4596&t=4586 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586]
Gotta love the ccbootcamp labs... --- Dennis -Original Message- From: Kin Mak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586] Hello All, After spending over $25K of my own money on Cisco training within the past 18 months, my budget is running tight. Please let me know if it is worth it to penny pinch and save to purchase the ccbootcamp labs ($650+shipping) or solution lab's labs ($189). Is the Solution Lab's labs sufficient enough for practice to cover the lab test? Any comments and recommendation will be much appreciated. Thanks, Kin FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4595&t=4586 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab Scenarios - CCBootcamp Or Solution Lab [7:4586]
Hello All, After spending over $25K of my own money on Cisco training within the past 18 months, my budget is running tight. Please let me know if it is worth it to penny pinch and save to purchase the ccbootcamp labs ($650+shipping) or solution lab's labs ($189). Is the Solution Lab's labs sufficient enough for practice to cover the lab test? Any comments and recommendation will be much appreciated. Thanks, Kin Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4586&t=4586 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Omaha CCIE Lab Study Group [7:4428]
The Omaha Cisco User Group is putting together a CCIE Lab Study Group in the Omaha, Nebraska area. A lab will be available with some 10 routers, Catalyst 5000 switch, and ISDN Simulator. (Missing ATM and Token-Ring Switching). If you are in the area, please contact me. Ed Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://omaha.ciscousers.org Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4428&t=4428 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Practice [7:4395]
Joe some people on this list have said the CCIE Lab Practice Kit contains too many errors. Have you had the same experience? I just bought the book on the advice of a couple of my friends who strongly recommended it. That is why I was surprised to hear these complaints. Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Joe Wong"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > CCIE lab practice kit. > > ""Lupi, Guy"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Does anyone know of a book that has some realistic CCIE lab scenarios? I > > have a lab with most of the equipment necessary but I don't want to waste > my > > time with lab scenarios that I won't see in the real lab exam. Any help > is > > appreciated. > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4408&t=4395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Practice [7:4395]
CCIE lab practice kit. ""Lupi, Guy"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Does anyone know of a book that has some realistic CCIE lab scenarios? I > have a lab with most of the equipment necessary but I don't want to waste my > time with lab scenarios that I won't see in the real lab exam. Any help is > appreciated. > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4407&t=4395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab Practice [7:4395]
Does anyone know of a book that has some realistic CCIE lab scenarios? I have a lab with most of the equipment necessary but I don't want to waste my time with lab scenarios that I won't see in the real lab exam. Any help is appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4395&t=4395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE LAB Study Partner -San Diego/Mission Viejo Area [7:4339]
I'm looking for a Study partner in the San Diego area. I live in Vista/Oceanside so Mission Viejo or Irvine would probably work too. I took the written in March and will hopefully be taking the Lab in July. I would like to study with someone else who is going to be taking the Lab in the next couple of months. I would like to do some serious studying with someone who is at about the same stage of the game. I have a decent sized Lab with ISDN that we can use. Please respond to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Nathan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4339&t=4339 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Study Partner in Modesto, California area [7:4291]
Have you taked your written yet? I'd be interested in teaming up with you, as I have a full rack of gear to work with. Drop me a line: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best Regards, Scott M. Trieste ""Jason Roysdon"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Ok, it's come down to this: > I need to find me a Cisco study partner. I find myself not always as > motivated as I should be to study, especially after a long day of work. I > find that often if I'm teach or working with others and going over things I > know or learning new things together that I learn it better and also keep at > it longer. > > Anyway, I've got a lab full of gear > ( http://r2cisco.artoo.net/routers.html ), just thinking that two heads are > better than one in preparation at this point. > > -- > Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4323&t=4291 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE LAB [7:4320]
Hi all, Well I have cleared the CCIE written a few days back and now I am preparing for the LAB. I would like to know where should I go for the LAB I have thought of going to Brussels, Belgium or Johannesburg, South Africa. Thanks for any input. Mansoor Khan _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4320&t=4320 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISO: CCIE Lab Study Partner in Modesto, California area [7:4291]
Ok, it's come down to this: I need to find me a Cisco study partner. I find myself not always as motivated as I should be to study, especially after a long day of work. I find that often if I'm teach or working with others and going over things I know or learning new things together that I learn it better and also keep at it longer. Anyway, I've got a lab full of gear ( http://r2cisco.artoo.net/routers.html ), just thinking that two heads are better than one in preparation at this point. -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4291&t=4291 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VOIP on CCIE Lab [7:3899]
I say if your on a budget and building a CCIE lab, go with a 262x minimum. Why? Because you pick up FastEthernet (ISL, dot1q, etc) at the same time. 3620 used price is like $1200-$1500 a NM-1FE for a 3600 is like $800 yet a 2620 is only about $1200 used The 1750's FE cannot do ISL or dot1q. In fact, i would say sell the 3620 and get a 2620 or 2621, you lose nothing, and gain FastEthernet. Brian On Wed, 9 May 2001, Rashid Lohiya wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Can anyone suggest the minimum hardware requirements to practise the VOIP > bits on the CCIE labs. > > I am thinking of buying the cards, but there is so much out there and I am > truly confused. > > My friend has suggested I buy myself 2 x 1750's with DSP and FXS cards and I > should be able to configure and test end-to-end voice connectivity. He said > this was the cheapest option for me. I am just looking for a 2nd opinion. > > I have a 1000, 4 x 2500's and a 3620 router. > > Any other ideas, I am on a pretty tight budget. > > Rashid Lohiya > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 020 8509 2990 > 07785 362626 > www.pioneer-computers.com > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- We have MOVED!! Make note of our new address!!! I'm buying / selling used CISCO gear!! email me for a quote Brian Feeny,CCDP,CCNP+VAS Scarlett Parria [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 318-213-4709 318-213-4701 Netjam, LLC http://www.netjam.net 333 Texas St. VISA/MC/AMEX/COD Suite 140130 day warranty Shreveport, LA 71101 Cisco Channel Partner p: 318-212-0245 f: 318-212-0246 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3940&t=3899 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VOIP on CCIE Lab [7:3899]
Hi Guys, Can anyone suggest the minimum hardware requirements to practise the VOIP bits on the CCIE labs. I am thinking of buying the cards, but there is so much out there and I am truly confused. My friend has suggested I buy myself 2 x 1750's with DSP and FXS cards and I should be able to configure and test end-to-end voice connectivity. He said this was the cheapest option for me. I am just looking for a 2nd opinion. I have a 1000, 4 x 2500's and a 3620 router. Any other ideas, I am on a pretty tight budget. Rashid Lohiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] 020 8509 2990 07785 362626 www.pioneer-computers.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3899&t=3899 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab Material [7:3437]
Hi; In the market, there are so many lab preparation material. 1) Bootcamp for CCIE 2) Solutions Lab 3) CCPrep Lab Fast track. 4) Mentor lab 5)Networkstudyguide 6)Fatkids Any opinion in those material are welcome. Thanks Vincent Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3437&t=3437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE LAB TEST [7:3333]
Campbell, CA Where are you? jp ""Jason"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > No. You only need to know RIP . But don't take my word for it !! Check it > out at http://www.microsoft.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ > > ;-) > > > > > ""Jeongwoo Park"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hi all > > Are ATM and VOIP a part of CCIE routing and switching lab test? > > > > JP > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3397&t= -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE LAB TEST [7:3333]
Version 1 @ that... - Original Message - From: Jason To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 3:48 AM Subject: Re: CCIE LAB TEST [7:] > No. You only need to know RIP . But don't take my word for it !! Check it > out at http://www.microsoft.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ > > ;-) > > > > > ""Jeongwoo Park"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hi all > > Are ATM and VOIP a part of CCIE routing and switching lab test? > > > > JP > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3361&t= -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE LAB TEST [7:3333]
No. You only need to know RIP . But don't take my word for it !! Check it out at http://www.microsoft.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ ;-) ""Jeongwoo Park"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi all > Are ATM and VOIP a part of CCIE routing and switching lab test? > > JP > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3353&t= -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE LAB TEST [7:3333]
Hi all Are ATM and VOIP a part of CCIE routing and switching lab test? JP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=&t= -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab in TOKYO [7:2489]
""Brian"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Brian "Sonic" Whalen > Success = Preparation + Opportunity Your sig is very similar to a line I came up with one time in response to a question about why I do not believe in 'luck.' My response was, "Luck is the convergence of opportunity and preparation." ---JRE--- Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3110&t=2489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab in TOKYO [7:2489]
damn good excuse for international travel.. Brian "Sonic" Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Ingack Hwang wrote: > 1. the proctor is Japanese. He can speak in English. > > 2. The question is written in English. > > The nearest hotel is Keio plaza intercontinental hotel. > > > > ""Tom York"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Has anyone taken lab exam in Tokyo? I'm going to take lab exam in Tokyo in > > August, so I just want to know the lab exam situation in Japan. Is the > > question written in Japanese? I guess at least the proctor is Japanese, > > right? I appreciate for any information. > > Tomohiro > > > > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail > > account at http://www.eudoramail.com > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2768&t=2489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question .. CCIE lab and scheduling! [7:2461]
Guess it's nice to be called "stupid" by someone who asked for advises. Teach all of us not to response in future to stupid questions in the first place. Why did you bother to take the written in the first place, why not be prepared for the lab and then take the written ? Sure as hell save all your headaches !! Between waiting 6 months and doing the lab at the nearest possible time, I'm sure there are enough people "smart enough" to tell you that it might just be worth it. ""Tony"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > For all that responded with the "go to an international test site" ... come > on guys .. get real .. Pay thousands for travel or take another $200 (or now > 300) test. Anyone smart enough to be pursuing their CCIE knows the answer > to that question! > > > Thanks, > > Tony > > > > "Tony" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I've got a question that someone here will know the answer to. > > > > I took my CCIE written last August and due to a busy work schedule and > lots > > of other certification requirements (AVVID, WLAN and other vendors) I have > > not been able to schedule my lab. Now I'm getting ready to change jobs > and > > will immediately be looking to > > schedule my lab at the new company. If the written test is only good for > a > > year ... when does this expiration kick in ? Is it based on > > the day you TAKE the lab or when you sign up to take the lab? With the > long > > wait to get into the lab will I be required to spend another $200 if my > lab > > can't happen before August? I'm sure someone who has taken the lab has > been > > through this same scenario > > already. > > > > Thanks for your input .. > > > > > > Tony > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2522&t=2461 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question .. CCIE lab and scheduling! [7:2461]
I was pretty sure that was the case ... With the long lead times to get into the lab I just figured by now Cisco would have wised up and realized that the standard process would be to pass the written THEN work on lab prep for at least 6 months before FORKING up $1250 to schedule a lab rather then pass the written then sign up for the lab knowing good and well that you will not pass it with paper preparation only!! I'd rather feel good about the lab FIRST then schedule it and owe Cisco the money whether I am ready or not in 6 months. For all that responded with the "go to an international test site" ... come on guys .. get real .. Pay thousands for travel or take another $200 (or now 300) test. Anyone smart enough to be pursuing their CCIE knows the answer to that question! Thanks, Tony "Tony" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I've got a question that someone here will know the answer to. > > I took my CCIE written last August and due to a busy work schedule and lots > of other certification requirements (AVVID, WLAN and other vendors) I have > not been able to schedule my lab. Now I'm getting ready to change jobs and > will immediately be looking to > schedule my lab at the new company. If the written test is only good for a > year ... when does this expiration kick in ? Is it based on > the day you TAKE the lab or when you sign up to take the lab? With the long > wait to get into the lab will I be required to spend another $200 if my lab > can't happen before August? I'm sure someone who has taken the lab has been > through this same scenario > already. > > Thanks for your input .. > > > Tony > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2519&t=2461 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab in TOKYO [7:2489]
1. the proctor is Japanese. He can speak in English. 2. The question is written in English. The nearest hotel is Keio plaza intercontinental hotel. ""Tom York"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Has anyone taken lab exam in Tokyo? I'm going to take lab exam in Tokyo in > August, so I just want to know the lab exam situation in Japan. Is the > question written in Japanese? I guess at least the proctor is Japanese, > right? I appreciate for any information. > Tomohiro > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail > account at http://www.eudoramail.com > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2504&t=2489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab in TOKYO [7:2489]
Has anyone taken lab exam in Tokyo? I'm going to take lab exam in Tokyo in August, so I just want to know the lab exam situation in Japan. Is the question written in Japanese? I guess at least the proctor is Japanese, right? I appreciate for any information. Tomohiro Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2489&t=2489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question .. CCIE lab and scheduling! [7:2461]
If you make a booking for Singapore, you still can make it !! ""Tony"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I've got a question that someone here will know the answer to. > > I took my CCIE written last August and due to a busy work schedule and lots > of other certification requirements (AVVID, WLAN and other vendors) I have > not been able to schedule my lab. Now I'm getting ready to change jobs and > will immediately be looking to > schedule my lab at the new company. If the written test is only good for a > year ... when does this expiration kick in ? Is it based on > the day you TAKE the lab or when you sign up to take the lab? With the long > wait to get into the lab will I be required to spend another $200 if my lab > can't happen before August? I'm sure someone who has taken the lab has been > through this same scenario > already. > > Thanks for your input .. > > > Tony > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2475&t=2461 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question .. CCIE lab and scheduling! [7:2461]
If by the East Coast you are talking about Halifax you are still looking at a 6 month wait! - Original Message - From: "John Hardman" To: Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Question .. CCIE lab and scheduling! [7:2461] > Hi > > You have one year from the day you passed the written to make your first > attpemt at the lab. You then have a total of three years from the time you > passed the written to pass the lab. You might want to schedule the lab on > the east coast as their wait times seem to be less. Also write > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask them for advice/help. > > BTW, the written has a $300 price now... > > HTH > -- > John Hardman CCNP MCSE > > > ""Tony"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I've got a question that someone here will know the answer to. > > > > I took my CCIE written last August and due to a busy work schedule and > lots > > of other certification requirements (AVVID, WLAN and other vendors) I have > > not been able to schedule my lab. Now I'm getting ready to change jobs > and > > will immediately be looking to > > schedule my lab at the new company. If the written test is only good for > a > > year ... when does this expiration kick in ? Is it based on > > the day you TAKE the lab or when you sign up to take the lab? With the > long > > wait to get into the lab will I be required to spend another $200 if my > lab > > can't happen before August? I'm sure someone who has taken the lab has > been > > through this same scenario > > already. > > > > Thanks for your input .. > > > > > > Tony > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2474&t=2461 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question .. CCIE lab and scheduling! [7:2461]
Hi You have one year from the day you passed the written to make your first attpemt at the lab. You then have a total of three years from the time you passed the written to pass the lab. You might want to schedule the lab on the east coast as their wait times seem to be less. Also write [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask them for advice/help. BTW, the written has a $300 price now... HTH -- John Hardman CCNP MCSE ""Tony"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I've got a question that someone here will know the answer to. > > I took my CCIE written last August and due to a busy work schedule and lots > of other certification requirements (AVVID, WLAN and other vendors) I have > not been able to schedule my lab. Now I'm getting ready to change jobs and > will immediately be looking to > schedule my lab at the new company. If the written test is only good for a > year ... when does this expiration kick in ? Is it based on > the day you TAKE the lab or when you sign up to take the lab? With the long > wait to get into the lab will I be required to spend another $200 if my lab > can't happen before August? I'm sure someone who has taken the lab has been > through this same scenario > already. > > Thanks for your input .. > > > Tony > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2469&t=2461 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question .. CCIE lab and scheduling! [7:2461]
I've got a question that someone here will know the answer to. I took my CCIE written last August and due to a busy work schedule and lots of other certification requirements (AVVID, WLAN and other vendors) I have not been able to schedule my lab. Now I'm getting ready to change jobs and will immediately be looking to schedule my lab at the new company. If the written test is only good for a year ... when does this expiration kick in ? Is it based on the day you TAKE the lab or when you sign up to take the lab? With the long wait to get into the lab will I be required to spend another $200 if my lab can't happen before August? I'm sure someone who has taken the lab has been through this same scenario already. Thanks for your input .. Tony Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2461&t=2461 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: best location for ccie lab - rtp [7:2149]
what hotel would you recommend ? thanks ""Urooj's Hi-speed Internet"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I have only been to the Halifax site. It has cheap hotels (if you are > spending in US $$), five-minute walk to the CCIE lab, very fair and friendly > Proctors, plus a historical city to see (for which one may not have the > time). > > And if you manage to pass, you can celebrate with a feast of fine lobsters. > > Aziz S. Islam > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Rob > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 2:13 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: best location for ccie lab - rtp [7:2149] > > > what's the best location to take the CCIE lab exam? I realize that the > exams are standardized worldwide but I'm looking for the overall picture, > the friendlieness, good cheap hotels, easy commute to the lab facility etc.. > I'm considering NC, halifax and maybe CA.. thanks > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2291&t=2149 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: best location for ccie lab - rtp [7:2149]
I have only been to the Halifax site. It has cheap hotels (if you are spending in US $$), five-minute walk to the CCIE lab, very fair and friendly Proctors, plus a historical city to see (for which one may not have the time). And if you manage to pass, you can celebrate with a feast of fine lobsters. Aziz S. Islam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rob Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 2:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: best location for ccie lab - rtp [7:2149] what's the best location to take the CCIE lab exam? I realize that the exams are standardized worldwide but I'm looking for the overall picture, the friendlieness, good cheap hotels, easy commute to the lab facility etc.. I'm considering NC, halifax and maybe CA.. thanks FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2188&t=2149 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
best location for ccie lab - rtp [7:2149]
what's the best location to take the CCIE lab exam? I realize that the exams are standardized worldwide but I'm looking for the overall picture, the friendlieness, good cheap hotels, easy commute to the lab facility etc.. I'm considering NC, halifax and maybe CA.. thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2149&t=2149 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]
What protocol would you have in Enterprise that you need for a CCIE and is not avial in the Desktop ? NOT that I would recommend the 1700 either ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Phil, > > 1700's wont run enterprise IOS. I really dont recommend them for a lab > router. > > FYI > -Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 > cisco gear: www.optsys.net > > ""Circusnuts"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Don't forget the 3600's do Voice, ATM, & Fast Ethernet. You may find the > > 4500 Fast Ethernet modules cost more than anything for 3600 router. We > > replaced a lot of Government 45's & 4700's with 3600 routers, when pricing > > modules. If you have the 4500's already, I would think the 1700's would > be > > the best Voice router for the money. I would assume- with a reasonable > > discount, you could outfit 2 complete Voice 1700's for around 3,000. > > > > Phil > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Michael Bambic > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:02 PM > > Subject: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614] > > > > > > > I am putting together a document for my company to purchase 5 CCIE labs > > and > > > I need help with the VOIP equip part. > > > I plan on using > > > 3 2501's > > > 1 25011 > > > 3 4000M > > > 2 4500's > > > 1 Catalyst 5000 > > > 1 Catalyst 3920 tr switch > > > 1 Lightstream 100 ATM switch > > > > > > The 2 of the 4500's will have ATM interfaces and 1 of those 2 will have > an > > 4 > > > port serial and the other a FastEthernet interface to support trunking > for > > > the 5000 switch which will have a Sup II module and the 12 port 10/100 > > > module. This leaves one open slot per 4500, could I implement voice on > > these > > > routers and what card would I need? Any other outside equipment > required? > > > What memory requirements? > > > Thanks for helping my laziness as I'm tired of pouring over the CCO cd. > > > :) > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Mike Bambic > > > Lead Mentor > > > Phoenix Branch > > > 602-955-5888 > > > Cisco Regional Business Development Manager > > > TechSkills > > > www.techskills.com > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which > > had > > > a name of winmail.dat] > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2154&t=1614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1774]
Oh, and the 1700 line has an ADSL WIC available. -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""Vincent Chong"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > 1750 with enough memory and flash if you wan to play voice over ip > 1720 series ( no support for voice) > > > > ""Jon"" Might look at the 827-4v router, as well. It's an Alcatel-DSL > modem, with > > an ethernet interface and four FXS interfaces. Should be able to buy two > > of them for what a single 1700 and voice modules cost, and connect them > > over your existing lab to perform WAN QoS stuff. > > > > -jon- > > > > ""Circusnuts"" wrote: > > > Don't forget the 3600's do Voice, ATM, & Fast Ethernet. You may find > > the > > > 4500 Fast Ethernet modules cost more than anything for 3600 router. We > > > replaced a lot of Government 45's & 4700's with 3600 routers, when > > > pricing modules. If you have the 4500's already, I would think the > > > 1700's would be the best Voice router for the money. I would assume- > > > with a reasonable discount, you could outfit 2 complete Voice 1700's for > > > > > around 3,000. > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1973&t=1774 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab eBay [7:1967]
I'm not the seller, but I saw this on eBay and thought it might interest those of you with a bunch of cash to spare (or company money), and wanting a great CCIE level lab of equipment (currently at $2K, and reserve is not yet met): http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1232735202 "I have finally attained my CCIE so it time to get this equipment out of my house!! This is perfect for getting your Cisco Certifications! Everything is in A+ condition with extra accessories included. This lab consists of 7 routers, 1 Cisco CS-500 terminal server for reverse telnet, 1 Cisco 2501 1 eth 2 serial , 1 Cisco 2514 dual Ethernet router w 2 serial, 2 Cisco 2502 token ring routers w 2 serial, 1 2521 for a Frame Relay switch 4 serial w 1 toekn ring and 1 isdn, 1 1601 Ethernet router with 2 serial and 1 ethernet port., 1 1005 Ethernet router with 1 serial and 1 ethernet port, 1 token ring MAU for the token ring routers, 1 Cat 5000 with Supervisor I module, 48 Port 10BT Desktop Ethernet Switching Module with Telco cables and 48 port patch panel! 4 Catalyst 5000 CDDI Switching Module . Rack mount kits are included for the 2500 series routers and the catalyst. Also all terminal cables for the CS-500 and power cords for all routers are included. All Ethernet and token ring transceivers are included.5 DTE-DCE back to back cables.5 CAT5 eth cables. This is a great deal to get your CCNA, CCNP, and CCIE. Feel free to email any questions you have. Pay pal preferred for payment. I will throw in the 19inch rack pictured for $100 if the high bidder wants it." -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1967&t=1967 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1774]
Buy a 6400 ;-p http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/as/6400/ Cheaper to order ADSL if you can get it. However, it's pretty much pointless for real ATM practice (just read a sample config for an 827), as you can't change the ISP side of things. -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > On Sep 14, 11:18am, "Jon" wrote: > } > } Might look at the 827-4v router, as well. It's an Alcatel-DSL modem, with > } an ethernet interface and four FXS interfaces. Should be able to buy two > > Not to mention the DSL port. I've been wondering how one could do > DSL in a lab? > > }-- End of excerpt from "Jon" > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1972&t=1774 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1774]
To do DSL entirely within the lab would require having the provider gear (DSLAM etc.) in the lab. Same as ISDN, ATM, X.25, or Frame-Relay -- except the last two can be emulated by a Cisco Router. To do ATM switching, you need an ATM switch, and an ISDN switch to do ISDN switching. The DSL "modem" is just the circuit endpoint/CPE. Fortunately, if you have to know how to provision DSL provider equipment, your employer will likely send you to some telco schools. The bits you should know how to do (user-end ISDN or DSL configs) can be done with a live DSL or ISDN line, easy enough to get, if you're within range of the telco. I was not suggesting that you have to have DSL to do VoIP with this router, you can connect it to the network over the ethernet interface, and run VoIP over that circuit. The 1750-4v is a good suggestion for a VoIP router, but it's around $2k -- the 827-4v has less memory and a slower processor, but is around $1k. For a production network, it's a kludge, because it only has the DSL WAN port -- you'd need another router to connect the 827-4v to your WAN. However, for a practice lab, I'd rather get two routers than one, for the same money. Then you can play with QoS and LAN/WAN traffic engineering, and watch the circuit suffer without that QoS. -jon- John Nemeth wrote: > Not to mention the DSL port. I've been wondering how one could do > DSL in a lab? > On Sep 14, 11:18am, "Jon" wrote: > } Might look at the 827-4v router, as well. It's an Alcatel-DSL modem, > with > } an ethernet interface and four FXS interfaces. Should be able to buy > two __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1951&t=1774 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1774]
1750 with enough memory and flash if you wan to play voice over ip 1720 series ( no support for voice) ""Jon"" Might look at the 827-4v router, as well. It's an Alcatel-DSL modem, with > an ethernet interface and four FXS interfaces. Should be able to buy two > of them for what a single 1700 and voice modules cost, and connect them > over your existing lab to perform WAN QoS stuff. > > -jon- > > ""Circusnuts"" wrote: > > Don't forget the 3600's do Voice, ATM, & Fast Ethernet. You may find > the > > 4500 Fast Ethernet modules cost more than anything for 3600 router. We > > replaced a lot of Government 45's & 4700's with 3600 routers, when > > pricing modules. If you have the 4500's already, I would think the > > 1700's would be the best Voice router for the money. I would assume- > > with a reasonable discount, you could outfit 2 complete Voice 1700's for > > > around 3,000. > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1843&t=1774 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1774]
On Sep 14, 11:18am, "Jon" wrote: } } Might look at the 827-4v router, as well. It's an Alcatel-DSL modem, with } an ethernet interface and four FXS interfaces. Should be able to buy two Not to mention the DSL port. I've been wondering how one could do DSL in a lab? }-- End of excerpt from "Jon" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1839&t=1774 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1774]
Might look at the 827-4v router, as well. It's an Alcatel-DSL modem, with an ethernet interface and four FXS interfaces. Should be able to buy two of them for what a single 1700 and voice modules cost, and connect them over your existing lab to perform WAN QoS stuff. -jon- ""Circusnuts"" wrote: > Don't forget the 3600's do Voice, ATM, & Fast Ethernet. You may find the > 4500 Fast Ethernet modules cost more than anything for 3600 router. We > replaced a lot of Government 45's & 4700's with 3600 routers, when > pricing modules. If you have the 4500's already, I would think the > 1700's would be the best Voice router for the money. I would assume- > with a reasonable discount, you could outfit 2 complete Voice 1700's for > around 3,000. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1774&t=1774 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]
What would enterprise give you that you need. Wouldn't that be a low cost solution for voice. You could learn the enterprise feature set on another router. - Original Message - From: "Brad Ellis" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614] > Phil, > > 1700's wont run enterprise IOS. I really dont recommend them for a lab > router. > > FYI > -Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 > cisco gear: www.optsys.net > > ""Circusnuts"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Don't forget the 3600's do Voice, ATM, & Fast Ethernet. You may find the > > 4500 Fast Ethernet modules cost more than anything for 3600 router. We > > replaced a lot of Government 45's & 4700's with 3600 routers, when pricing > > modules. If you have the 4500's already, I would think the 1700's would > be > > the best Voice router for the money. I would assume- with a reasonable > > discount, you could outfit 2 complete Voice 1700's for around 3,000. > > > > Phil > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Michael Bambic > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:02 PM > > Subject: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614] > > > > > > > I am putting together a document for my company to purchase 5 CCIE labs > > and > > > I need help with the VOIP equip part. > > > I plan on using > > > 3 2501's > > > 1 25011 > > > 3 4000M > > > 2 4500's > > > 1 Catalyst 5000 > > > 1 Catalyst 3920 tr switch > > > 1 Lightstream 100 ATM switch > > > > > > The 2 of the 4500's will have ATM interfaces and 1 of those 2 will have > an > > 4 > > > port serial and the other a FastEthernet interface to support trunking > for > > > the 5000 switch which will have a Sup II module and the 12 port 10/100 > > > module. This leaves one open slot per 4500, could I implement voice on > > these > > > routers and what card would I need? Any other outside equipment > required? > > > What memory requirements? > > > Thanks for helping my laziness as I'm tired of pouring over the CCO cd. > > > :) > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Mike Bambic > > > Lead Mentor > > > Phoenix Branch > > > 602-955-5888 > > > Cisco Regional Business Development Manager > > > TechSkills > > > www.techskills.com > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which > > had > > > a name of winmail.dat] > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1745&t=1614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]
Phil, 1700's wont run enterprise IOS. I really dont recommend them for a lab router. FYI -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 cisco gear: www.optsys.net ""Circusnuts"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Don't forget the 3600's do Voice, ATM, & Fast Ethernet. You may find the > 4500 Fast Ethernet modules cost more than anything for 3600 router. We > replaced a lot of Government 45's & 4700's with 3600 routers, when pricing > modules. If you have the 4500's already, I would think the 1700's would be > the best Voice router for the money. I would assume- with a reasonable > discount, you could outfit 2 complete Voice 1700's for around 3,000. > > Phil > > ----- Original Message - > From: Michael Bambic > To: > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:02 PM > Subject: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614] > > > > I am putting together a document for my company to purchase 5 CCIE labs > and > > I need help with the VOIP equip part. > > I plan on using > > 3 2501's > > 1 25011 > > 3 4000M > > 2 4500's > > 1 Catalyst 5000 > > 1 Catalyst 3920 tr switch > > 1 Lightstream 100 ATM switch > > > > The 2 of the 4500's will have ATM interfaces and 1 of those 2 will have an > 4 > > port serial and the other a FastEthernet interface to support trunking for > > the 5000 switch which will have a Sup II module and the 12 port 10/100 > > module. This leaves one open slot per 4500, could I implement voice on > these > > routers and what card would I need? Any other outside equipment required? > > What memory requirements? > > Thanks for helping my laziness as I'm tired of pouring over the CCO cd. > > :) > > Thanks! > > > > Mike Bambic > > Lead Mentor > > Phoenix Branch > > 602-955-5888 > > Cisco Regional Business Development Manager > > TechSkills > > www.techskills.com > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which > had > > a name of winmail.dat] > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1732&t=1614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Revised question on CCIE lab equipment [7:1628]
Looks like this guy wants you to do his job. Call your local cisco sales engineer he will be happy to assist. Don - Original Message - From: "Kevin Wigle" To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:07 PM Subject: Re: Revised question on CCIE lab equipment [7:1628] > now you gotta love that title.. - "Lead Mentor" > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Bambic" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:51 PM > Subject: Revised question on CCIE lab equipment [7:1628] > > > > I'm hoping somebody out there has created a document that lists all the > part > > #'s to achieve a complete CCIE level lab. I need to support all of the > CCIE > > topics including: > > VOIP > > ATM > > Token Ring > > etc. > > If anybody has taken the lab and knows what was used and it doesn't void > any > > confidentiality agreements I would be very interested as I need to build 5 > > racks in different locations to support CCIE's. > > Thanks > > > > Mike Bambic > > Lead Mentor > > Phoenix Branch > > 602-955-5888 > > Cisco Regional Business Development Manager > > TechSkills > > www.techskills.com > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which > had > > a name of winmail.dat] > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1704&t=1628 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Revised question on CCIE lab equipment [7:1628]
now you gotta love that title.. - "Lead Mentor" - Original Message - From: "Michael Bambic" To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:51 PM Subject: Revised question on CCIE lab equipment [7:1628] > I'm hoping somebody out there has created a document that lists all the part > #'s to achieve a complete CCIE level lab. I need to support all of the CCIE > topics including: > VOIP > ATM > Token Ring > etc. > If anybody has taken the lab and knows what was used and it doesn't void any > confidentiality agreements I would be very interested as I need to build 5 > racks in different locations to support CCIE's. > Thanks > > Mike Bambic > Lead Mentor > Phoenix Branch > 602-955-5888 > Cisco Regional Business Development Manager > TechSkills > www.techskills.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had > a name of winmail.dat] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1641&t=1628 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]
Don't forget the 3600's do Voice, ATM, & Fast Ethernet. You may find the 4500 Fast Ethernet modules cost more than anything for 3600 router. We replaced a lot of Government 45's & 4700's with 3600 routers, when pricing modules. If you have the 4500's already, I would think the 1700's would be the best Voice router for the money. I would assume- with a reasonable discount, you could outfit 2 complete Voice 1700's for around 3,000. Phil - Original Message - From: Michael Bambic To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:02 PM Subject: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614] > I am putting together a document for my company to purchase 5 CCIE labs and > I need help with the VOIP equip part. > I plan on using > 3 2501's > 1 25011 > 3 4000M > 2 4500's > 1 Catalyst 5000 > 1 Catalyst 3920 tr switch > 1 Lightstream 100 ATM switch > > The 2 of the 4500's will have ATM interfaces and 1 of those 2 will have an 4 > port serial and the other a FastEthernet interface to support trunking for > the 5000 switch which will have a Sup II module and the 12 port 10/100 > module. This leaves one open slot per 4500, could I implement voice on these > routers and what card would I need? Any other outside equipment required? > What memory requirements? > Thanks for helping my laziness as I'm tired of pouring over the CCO cd. > :) > Thanks! > > Mike Bambic > Lead Mentor > Phoenix Branch > 602-955-5888 > Cisco Regional Business Development Manager > TechSkills > www.techskills.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had > a name of winmail.dat] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1635&t=1614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Revised question on CCIE lab equipment [7:1628]
I'm hoping somebody out there has created a document that lists all the part #'s to achieve a complete CCIE level lab. I need to support all of the CCIE topics including: VOIP ATM Token Ring etc. If anybody has taken the lab and knows what was used and it doesn't void any confidentiality agreements I would be very interested as I need to build 5 racks in different locations to support CCIE's. Thanks Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1628&t=1628 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]
Michael, Hi! I'd recommend getting a couple of 2513s in addition to the gear you have listed. I'd also recommend a couple of 2503s or 04s and an ISDN simulator (unless you were planning to put the BRI modules in the 4xxx routers). The hardware you are going to purchase should really be focused around the labs you are going to practice with (or teach). Let me know if you need anymore info. -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Optimized Systems Inc used cisco hardware: www.optsys.net ""Michael Bambic"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I am putting together a document for my company to purchase 5 CCIE labs and > I need help with the VOIP equip part. > I plan on using > 3 2501's > 1 25011 > 3 4000M > 2 4500's > 1 Catalyst 5000 > 1 Catalyst 3920 tr switch > 1 Lightstream 100 ATM switch > > The 2 of the 4500's will have ATM interfaces and 1 of those 2 will have an 4 > port serial and the other a FastEthernet interface to support trunking for > the 5000 switch which will have a Sup II module and the 12 port 10/100 > module. This leaves one open slot per 4500, could I implement voice on these > routers and what card would I need? Any other outside equipment required? > What memory requirements? > Thanks for helping my laziness as I'm tired of pouring over the CCO cd. > :) > Thanks! > > Mike Bambic > Lead Mentor > Phoenix Branch > 602-955-5888 > Cisco Regional Business Development Manager > TechSkills > www.techskills.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had > a name of winmail.dat] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1627&t=1614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]
I am putting together a document for my company to purchase 5 CCIE labs and I need help with the VOIP equip part. I plan on using 3 2501's 1 25011 3 4000M 2 4500's 1 Catalyst 5000 1 Catalyst 3920 tr switch 1 Lightstream 100 ATM switch The 2 of the 4500's will have ATM interfaces and 1 of those 2 will have an 4 port serial and the other a FastEthernet interface to support trunking for the 5000 switch which will have a Sup II module and the 12 port 10/100 module. This leaves one open slot per 4500, could I implement voice on these routers and what card would I need? Any other outside equipment required? What memory requirements? Thanks for helping my laziness as I'm tired of pouring over the CCO cd. :) Thanks! Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1614&t=1614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching on the CCIE Lab Exam [7:1296]
Don't bother with the RSM, save the $ for a 3920 switch. ""Lupi, Guy"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I asked this question before, and someone sent some helpful info, but I am > looking for something more specific. I know the 5000 series is the switch > used in the lab, but is the focus more on layer 2 or layer 3? I am going to > get a 5000 series switch but I wanted to know if I should save myself the > cost of the RSM, or if I absolutely need it. Any help would be appreciated. > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1356&t=1296 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching on the CCIE Lab Exam [7:1296]
In the lab an outboard router will handle the VLAN routing. I don't think you need it. Darren At 05:15 PM 04/19/2001 -0400, Lupi, Guy wrote: >I asked this question before, and someone sent some helpful info, but I am >looking for something more specific. I know the 5000 series is the switch >used in the lab, but is the focus more on layer 2 or layer 3? I am going to >get a 5000 series switch but I wanted to know if I should save myself the >cost of the RSM, or if I absolutely need it. Any help would be appreciated. >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Darren S. Crawford Lucent Technologies Worldwide Services 2377 Gold Meadow WayPhone: (916) 859-5200 x310 Suite 230 Fax: (916) 859-5201 Sacramento, CA 95670Pager: (800) 467-1467 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Epager: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucent.com Network Systems Consultant - CCNA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1312&t=1296 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Switching on the CCIE Lab Exam [7:1296]
I asked this question before, and someone sent some helpful info, but I am looking for something more specific. I know the 5000 series is the switch used in the lab, but is the focus more on layer 2 or layer 3? I am going to get a 5000 series switch but I wanted to know if I should save myself the cost of the RSM, or if I absolutely need it. Any help would be appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1296&t=1296 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab Prep Courses [7:716]
I am trying to get various opinions of several CCIE Lab Prep courses. I already know about MentorTech's ECP1. I am already registered for that class in August. I want to know if anyone has opinions on these courses. BNetsys CCIE Courses Global Knowledge ANEW Bruce Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=716&t=716 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab book recommendation [7:223]
cheers Circusnuts wrote: > > If I'm not mistaken, the book was about $500 > > http://www.ccbootcamp.com/ > > Phil > > > - Original Message - > From: > To: Circusnuts > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: Re: CCIE Lab book recommendation [7:223] > > >> Can you post the ISBN number? >> >> Circusnuts wrote: >> >>> CCIE BootCamps comes highly recommended & had been kicking my but for >> > the > >> past 8 months :-) >> >> Phil >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Kent Hawkins >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 10:59 AM >> Subject: CCIE Lab book recommendation [7:223] >> >> >>> Guys, >>> >>> Can anyone recommend a really good CCIE practice lab book??? >>> >>> regards >>> >>> Kent >>> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >> >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >> >>> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=244&t=223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: CCIE Lab book recommendation [7:223]
> If I'm not mistaken, the book was about $500 http://www.ccbootcamp.com/ Phil - Original Message - From: To: Circusnuts Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Re: CCIE Lab book recommendation [7:223] > Can you post the ISBN number? > > Circusnuts wrote: > > CCIE BootCamps comes highly recommended & had been kicking my but for the > past 8 months :-) > > Phil > > - Original Message - > From: Kent Hawkins > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 10:59 AM > Subject: CCIE Lab book recommendation [7:223] > > > > Guys, > > > > Can anyone recommend a really good CCIE practice lab book??? > > > > regards > > > > Kent > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=234&t=223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab book recommendation [7:223]
CCIE BootCamps comes highly recommended & had been kicking my but for the past 8 months :-) Phil - Original Message - From: Kent Hawkins To: Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 10:59 AM Subject: CCIE Lab book recommendation [7:223] > Guys, > > Can anyone recommend a really good CCIE practice lab book??? > > regards > > Kent > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=225&t=223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab book recommendation [7:223]
Guys, Can anyone recommend a really good CCIE practice lab book??? regards Kent Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=223&t=223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE lab ? [7:21]
You can access the documentation CD online at: http://www.cisco.com/univercd Favio Tavarez wrote: > > What can u use for reference on the CCIE lab The CCO CD ? ( > Where Exactly > can I get that? > Thanks all. is that the online material at Cisco.com > just want to be sure can you give the the right url please? > Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=47&t=21 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE lab ? [7:21]
What can u use for reference on the CCIE lab The CCO CD ? ( Where Exactly can I get that? Thanks all. is that the online material at Cisco.com just want to be sure can you give the the right url please? Thanks Favio Tavarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=21&t=21 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab Report - unsuccesful
Hey at least you had the guts to try Chuck. That says a lot. Hang in there. There is no doubt you will not be a soon to be CCIE much longer. Thanks for all your input also. Steve -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 8:34 PM To: Cisco Mail List Subject: CCIE Lab Report - unsuccesful Hey, everyone, how you all been? The short story is I did not make it to day 2. The rest of this is a bit long winded, and easily skipped. First of all, I was quite pleased to find upon reading through my Day 1 scenario that there was nothing I couldn't do, given time. There are plenty of practice labs from several different sources which cover all the core topics, so there were no surprises for me. Secondly, I was quite pleased when during my review of Day 1 results with the proctor, he told me they were going to change the written instruction on a particular section because of the solution I used. I'm actually quite surprised it hasn't been done before. I was grudgingly given points, although I was told my solution was definitely not what they had in mind. However, in the end, it was a few simple omissions that cost me the points I would have needed to squeak into Day 2. Only one of the six of us who began together was invited to the second day. Things I learned: 1) having the core topics down cold is CRUCIAL. No kidding! 2) Time is crucial, but not, I believe, in the way I have seen it discussed in many places. I highly doubt that typing 80 words a minute versus my 20 WPM was the difference. Not when I spent as much time as I did contemplating. You can't think it. You have to know it. By 2:00 p.m. I knew I didn't have a prayer of hitting all the requirements. At that point I started counting points, putting myself in a defensive mode. By quitting time, if I got full credit for everything I thought I deserved, I would have had 31 points. As I found out in my review, I missed a few simple things, and blew myself out of the water. This leads back to the internalization of the core topics. You can't be thinking about how to configure anything. You have to just bang them out, the same way you bang out shaving or washing your hands or eating your lunch. 3) Methodology is crucial. You have to have a good methodology that is internalized and is habitual. You can't be thinking "what's next?" I don't believe it matters what your methodology is, so long as you are consistent and quick. My own methodology failed me because I was constantly adjusting, rather than banging it out. 4) I spent a good two hours last night in my hotel room debriefing myself. I have six pages of notes regarding my day one experience. This will form the basis of my study plan for my second attempt. I know that it is highly unlikely I will have a scenario like the one I just worked on next time through. But I will focus on methodology and speed. 5) Good rapport with the proctor is helpful. I was able to get the information I needed by carefully wording my questions and making sure that my desired result was understood. The proctor is under a bit of stress himself, with so many folks vying for his attention. He may think you are asking something you are not. I made sure that if I was not getting an answer that made sense that I clarified my request, so that the answer was one that helped me understand. I will say also that the test I saw was reasonably clear. The questions I had tended to be the result of outputs from various show and debug commands, to clarify what the expectation was. A few other comments: I was far too aggressive in scheduling my lab date. Should have pushed it out 60 days. Don't be in a hurry. Those without a lot of hands on need to spend several months of several hours a day practicing. No two ways about it. There has been a lot of discussion about the patch panels used in the lab. All I can say is that the panels are clearly labeled. IMHO you have nothing to worry about. That said, I did have to revisit the rack twice, in order to make a cabling change. This was purely the result of a chicken or egg situation, and not due to any difficulty with the rack itself. People with home labs know well the issue with hooking up routers back to back. I sat next to a guy this morning ( a day 1 candidate ) who was getting up every few minutes and going to the back of the rack to move cables around. Completely unnecessary and driving the proctor nuts. There is no need for any candidate to touch the back of the rack. You can't let little stuff stop you. Those with extensive hands on experience know that sometimes routers do funny things like boot into rommon> or behave as if there is an extensive paste going on in the configuration dialogue. I have a router here at home that boots into rommon once in a while. A reload has always done the trick ( knock on wood ) sometimes leaning on control-
Re: CCIE Lab Report - unsuccesful
John Hardman wrote: > > I sniped most of your report below with the exception of point #5. I have > been trying to form a picture of the lab, trying to make it a part of me > that I visit on a regular basis. When I was in Taekwon-Do I found that the > more time I spent in visualization the better I got. It goes beyond just > "seeing it", but a total emersion in the expeirence. And this is what I have > been trying to do with the lab, so a little more detail will help me fill > out my vision... NDA permiting, what can be asked of the proctor? > For a little visualization, point your browser to http://www.tara.ca/ourlabs/ccie.html and peak at Halifax. They're redesigned their site -- they used to have a Quicktime 360 degree "movie" of the lab. Back when I was still teaching CCIE prep classes I used to show it to people. It helped take the edge off of the unknown. Marty Adkins Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mentor Technologies Phone: 240-568-6526 133 National Business Pkwy WWW: http://www.mentortech.com Annapolis Junction, MD 20701Cisco CCIE #1289 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Report - unsuccesful
Chuck, I am surprised that you didn't pass on the first attempt (you're scaring me). But I also think that it is an important part of the process. My first attempt will be in August. Failing the Lab makes us see the value and difficulty of the lab; appreciate the level of expertise required to pass; and the only way this certification can hold its value in the future. You said that you could do everything in the lab, but overlooked some simple things that kept you out of Day 2. It might be something completely different for me, but the Lab is where we find these things out, so we will be detail oriented, and at a consistent level of expertise when passing the lab. Study hard and good luck, Tim - Original Message - From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cisco Mail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 6:34 PM Subject: CCIE Lab Report - unsuccesful > Hey, everyone, how you all been? > > The short story is I did not make it to day 2. The rest of this is a bit > long winded, and easily skipped. > > First of all, I was quite pleased to find upon reading through my Day 1 > scenario that there was nothing I couldn't do, given time. There are plenty > of practice labs from several different sources which cover all the core > topics, so there were no surprises for me. > > Secondly, I was quite pleased when during my review of Day 1 results with > the proctor, he told me they were going to change the written instruction > on a particular section because of the solution I used. I'm actually quite > surprised it hasn't been done before. I was grudgingly given points, > although I was told my solution was definitely not what they had in mind. > > However, in the end, it was a few simple omissions that cost me the points > I would have needed to squeak into Day 2. > > Only one of the six of us who began together was invited to the second day. > > Things I learned: > > 1) having the core topics down cold is CRUCIAL. No kidding! > > 2) Time is crucial, but not, I believe, in the way I have seen it discussed > in many places. I highly doubt that typing 80 words a minute versus my 20 > WPM was the difference. Not when I spent as much time as I did > contemplating. You can't think it. You have to know it. > > By 2:00 p.m. I knew I didn't have a prayer of hitting all the requirements. > At that point I started counting points, putting myself in a defensive mode. > By quitting time, if I got full credit for everything I thought I deserved, > I would have had 31 points. As I found out in my review, I missed a few > simple things, and blew myself out of the water. This leads back to the > internalization of the core topics. You can't be thinking about how to > configure anything. You have to just bang them out, the same way you bang > out shaving or washing your hands or eating your lunch. > > 3) Methodology is crucial. You have to have a good methodology that is > internalized and is habitual. You can't be thinking "what's next?" I don't > believe it matters what your methodology is, so long as you are consistent > and quick. My own methodology failed me because I was constantly adjusting, > rather than banging it out. > > 4) I spent a good two hours last night in my hotel room debriefing myself. I > have six pages of notes regarding my day one experience. This will form the > basis of my study plan for my second attempt. I know that it is highly > unlikely I will have a scenario like the one I just worked on next time > through. But I will focus on methodology and speed. > > 5) Good rapport with the proctor is helpful. I was able to get the > information I needed by carefully wording my questions and making sure that > my desired result was understood. The proctor is under a bit of stress > himself, with so many folks vying for his attention. He may think you are > asking something you are not. I made sure that if I was not getting an > answer that made sense that I clarified my request, so that the answer was > one that helped me understand. I will say also that the test I saw was > reasonably clear. The questions I had tended to be the result of outputs > from various show and debug commands, to clarify what the expectation was. > > A few other comments: > > I was far too aggressive in scheduling my lab date. Should have pushed it > out 60 days. Don't be in a hurry. Those without a lot of hands on need to > spend several months of several hours a day practicing. No two ways about > it. > > There has been a lot of discussion about the patch panels used in the lab. > All I can say is that the panels are clearly labeled. IMHO you have nothing > to worry about. That said
Re: CCIE Lab Report - unsuccesful
; home labs know well the issue with hooking up routers back to back. > > I sat next to a guy this morning ( a day 1 candidate ) who was getting up > every few minutes and going to the back of the rack to move cables around. > Completely unnecessary and driving the proctor nuts. There is no need for > any candidate to touch the back of the rack. > > You can't let little stuff stop you. Those with extensive hands on > experience know that sometimes routers do funny things like boot into > rommon> or behave as if there is an extensive paste going on in the > configuration dialogue. I have a router here at home that boots into rommon > once in a while. A reload has always done the trick ( knock on wood ) > sometimes leaning on control-C will stop a misbehaving configuration > dialogue. No this is not NDA because I did not go to troubleshooting. I > experienced one of these things as I got into the routers at the very start > of my lab. Stuff happens now and again. Rule number one is "don't panic" > > With a six to seven month backlog, I have plenty of time to follow up on the > action plan I developed for myself as part of my debriefing session. That > plan includes extensive reading and practice using the configuration guides > from CCO. Highly recommended, as one of my proctors told me. > > One more little thing. I was permitted to bring in a small clock, and a > picture of my wife. The clock to help me keep to my schedule. There is a > clock in the lab, but I prefer having something in my face. Whenever I was > discouraged I looked at my wife, who seemed to be saying "you'd better pass, > honey, because I've already spent your raise" ;-> > > Lastly, I had the pleasure of meeting several people who frequent this list. > It was quite a thrill, and a definite pleasure to put faces to the names. > The socializing helped me relax, or helped me deal with my disappointment, > depending on when we met. It was indeed a privilege, Jason, Drew, Dale, Rob, > David, not to mention my fellow test takers Todd and Wendy, and couple more > whose names I am unable to remember. Proctors, too. I enjoyed the > opportunity to work with you. > > Well, I'm back here at base camp. 11,000 feet to go still. See you all along > the way. > > Chuck > -- > I am Locutus, a CCIE Lab Proctor. Xx_Brain_dumps_xX are futile. Your life as > it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you will > study US! And I ain't kidding, neither! _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
