[Cooker] Gimp + contribs

2003-06-27 Thread Dave Cotton
Latest Gimp 1.2.5-1mdk has a contribs dependency perl-File-Slurp.
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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] gtetrinet-0.7.3-1mdk

2003-06-27 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2003, 18:15:23 Uhr MET, schrieb Frederic Crozat:
  %post
  %{update_menus}
 +GCONF_CONFIG_SOURCE=`gconftool-2 --get-default-source` gconftool-2 
 --makefile-install-rule %{_sysconfdir}/gconf/schemas/gtetrinet.schemas  /dev/null
 +
 +%preun
 +GCONF_CONFIG_SOURCE=`gconftool-2 --get-default-source` gconftool-2 
 --makefile-uninstall-rule %{_sysconfdir}/gconf/schemas/gtetrinet.schemas  /dev/null

Wouldn't it be better if the schema deinstallation would only happen
on deinstallation and not on upgrades, just like with info dir entries? 
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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-27 Thread Eric Fernandez
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

Good idea was rather refering to showing installed software in
searches, not specifically to providing a checkbox option for it.
And I said I think best solution would be to do it by default.
 

Why not doing a browse packages interface, independent from any
install/uninstall consideration, with all information we can find in the
install rpmdrake. And then depending on the fact the package is already
installed or not, there would be an install/remove button. You may even add
   

Yes, why not having rpmdrake-1 back? :))

:)
But actually the solution to make rpmdrake installer search in installed 
by default is, finally, exactly what rpmdrake 1 was doing !! You will 
have both installed and to-be-installed packages in the same search list !
The point was : why would newbies be confused by an interface that makes 
the package browsing, and then offers install/uninstall options ? Don't 
you think that make the installed packages appear in the rpmdrake 
installer even more confusing ?

Eric




Re: [Cooker] winex3.1 and point2play

2003-06-27 Thread Buchan Milne
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John Drouhard wrote:
 If this is a bug, I can report it to bugzilla. But, Point2Play cannot
 start Medal of Honor Allied Assault or Jedi Knight 2. They both just
 exit when they are about to start. I'm not sure if this a gcc problem or
 what, but If anyone has any advice, it would be appreciated.

 I am running an updated cooker as of 6/26/03.

But that doesn't mean that proprietary software issues belong here. File
a bug with whoever you got the software from.

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread Buchan Milne
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Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Thursday 26 June 2003 02:42 pm, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:


Anyway I am not interesed in mimicking what MS does, but in something
that is useful and convenient to the average MDK user.


 I personally don't find this useful.  When I delete a file, I want it
to be
 deleted.  That, in combination with incremental rotating backups I do
every
 four hours with rsync give good production and online availability of
a file
 if deleted by accident.

Anyway, one point here is that it is useless implementing something like
this if there is not a really good consistent UI for it.

One thing users hate about Windows is it hiding what it does, and at
present we aren't any better.

Maybe before adding new incomprehensible features (ie ones without a
good UI), we should have UIs for the incomprehensible features we
already have.

ACL support in Konqueror/Nautilus would get my vote.

When rollback is available in at least one filesystem (probably Reiser4
some time after kernel 2.6.1 is out) it may be worthwhile adding a UI
for it. In the meantime, let's get ACL support back in ext2/3, and have
a UI for it.

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:04:15PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
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 Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Thursday 26 June 2003 02:42 pm, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
 
 
 Anyway I am not interesed in mimicking what MS does, but in something
 that is useful and convenient to the average MDK user.
 
 
  I personally don't find this useful.  When I delete a file, I want it
 to be
  deleted.  That, in combination with incremental rotating backups I do
 every
  four hours with rsync give good production and online availability of
 a file
  if deleted by accident.

I think the function should be optional. If a user wants it it should be
easy to aquire, and quite visible, as when you select the functionality
for your machine under installation. For me the key is that it is easy
to configure so that the chance that it will be used is good. To me it
is a basic operating system functionality.

 Anyway, one point here is that it is useless implementing something like
 this if there is not a really good consistent UI for it.

Hmm, maybe the user interface already in drakbackup to restore files is
OK. At least it is a beginning. And there is a need to see how things
would be functioning, and users' experience with the facilities.

Key for me is also whether/how it would be integrated into the MDK
system and installation procedure. This is of cause a MandakeSoft
decision. It would thus be nice to hear what MandarakeSoft's thoughts
are about such facilities.
 
 One thing users hate about Windows is it hiding what it does, and at
 present we aren't any better.

I think what is in drakbackup is pretty obvious, and a kind of
per-filesystem .trash directory with file node linking and garbage
collection should also be pretty straightforward.

Best regards
Keld



Re: [Cooker] Re: wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Fri Jun 27  3:58 +0200, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
 With this feature, it is necessary to survey how full is the room devoted to
 shadow functionality. This involves a strategy to delete oldest files or the
 greatest files (case of video). 

Best hash is probably something along the lines of size in bytes plus
age in seconds...

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[Cooker] ezpublish-3.1-2mdk

2003-06-27 Thread Oden Eriksson
Hi.

How come ezpublish-3.1-*mdk won't make it into the web archive at: 
http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/changelog/2003-06/

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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-27 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le jeu 26/06/2003 à 10:09, Eric Fernandez a écrit :
 But actually the solution to make rpmdrake installer search in installed 
 by default is, finally, exactly what rpmdrake 1 was doing !! You will 
 have both installed and to-be-installed packages in the same search list !
 The point was : why would newbies be confused by an interface that makes 
 the package browsing, and then offers install/uninstall options ? Don't 
 you think that make the installed packages appear in the rpmdrake 
 installer even more confusing ?

True.
On top of that we can think a little bit about rpmdrake and linux
system. With linux user can't easily install an app if the app is :
 1°/ a package that requires others libs
 2°/ not a rpm provide by mdk ( as others rpms may not work well because
of provides/requires/etc ... pb )

To my mind rpmdrake should move to something like Red Carpert/Click'n
Run but free. it means that rpmdrake should be like a repository package
administration tools. For configured sources it show what is available
and precise if it's installed or not, show information, where they came
from (source, or unknow for external rpms ).

What about a foreign/not mdk package ? ... urpmi/gurpmi. Why ? because :

1°/ It will try to install this package and the required dependencies if
possible. If it failed ... sorry it's linux, not windows.
2°/ it simple

We try to imitate windows but it's impossible with linux.
On windows you have a file that normally have all that it need inside it
( dll or static ) and put them in his directory or use standard windows
lib. If you miss something ( seldom ), just grab the right file, most of
the time it's just the new DirectX.
The nightmare with windows was the fact that some apps override some
windows systems dll and of course the registry ( what a mess ). But
besides that install an app was easy. Want a game ? put the CD,
setup.exe and during install process if it need new directX it provide
it for u or u can simply install it.

On linux ? take the rpm/sh. arf need libGL.x.y-z and your sys have
libGL.x.t-u and several libs depends on it. upgrade ? sometimes some
apps requires specific version of a lib - no way. The solution ? the
game should provide everything, put this in his own directory or in
/usr/local or in /opt . Linux libs change quickly and often break
compatibility somewhere ( API, ABI for C++, behaviour) because most of
them are not mature yet.

We have to cope with this. A distribution should provide an integrated
solution with normally everything that the user will need. If newer
version of prog are available, the user buy new CD set ( or dl iso ) and
upgrade, or if possible the user launch is repository package
administration tools and grab needed package.
Normally the user should not pick rpm outside of what the distro
provides, or pick tar.gz. If the user did it he will have to assume and
cope with this.

To sum up it's more freedom and openess ( Opensource, free software, ...
) for less freedom ( use only what your distro provide you if you're a
newbies or else you will have to dig inside things more complicated )




[Cooker] Re: [move] cooker contrib changes

2003-06-27 Thread Frej Rasmussen
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:44:39 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:

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 mandrake wrote:
 needed by cups

 these packages has been moved from cooker contrib to cooker main:

 - openslp-1.0.11-1mdk.src.rpm (alpha) - openslp-1.0.11-1mdk.alpha.rpm
 (alpha) - libopenslp1-devel-1.0.11-1mdk.alpha.rpm (alpha) -
 openslp-1.0.11-1mdk.ppc.rpm (ppc)
 - libopenslp1-devel-1.0.11-1mdk.ppc.rpm (ppc) -
 openslp-1.0.11-1mdk.i586.rpm (i586) -
 libopenslp1-devel-1.0.11-1mdk.i586.rpm (i586)
 
 Uhhh, according to cups doc, openslp is a less efficient browsing model
 than the cups native browsing. But if we're going to have it in, then
 surely we should build KDE with slp support (and get it working
 out-the-box)?

Ofcourse a specialiased protocol (ipp is printing only?) is more effecient
than slp, however slp is designed as a service locater, hence slp ~
service location protocol. In fact it's an integral part of
zeroconf/rendezvouz. It's because of SLP that iChat can automaticly
discover other iChat's on the local subnet. Lets keep it in main,
developers might actually learn about it ;).

You probably already know that, and I agree that it sucks to have yet
another daemon.

I wonder why there is so few gconfd like daemons. Starts when needed - and
shuts down after 30 seconds of inactivity.


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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-27 Thread Buchan Milne
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FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
 Le jeu 26/06/2003 à 10:09, Eric Fernandez a écrit :

 True.
 On top of that we can think a little bit about rpmdrake and linux
 system. With linux user can't easily install an app if the app is :
  1°/ a package that requires others libs
  2°/ not a rpm provide by mdk ( as others rpms may not work well because
 of provides/requires/etc ... pb )

???

If a package has all it's provides provided by packages available to
urpmi, double click on the downloaded rpm, and gurpmi will install
everything for you.


 To my mind rpmdrake should move to something like Red Carpert/Click'n
 Run but free. it means that rpmdrake should be like a repository package
 administration tools. For configured sources it show what is available
 and precise if it's installed or not, show information, where they came
 from (source, or unknow for external rpms ).


It does, but at present, either installed, or not installed packages
(not both).

 What about a foreign/not mdk package ? ... urpmi/gurpmi. Why ? because :

 1°/ It will try to install this package and the required dependencies if
 possible. If it failed ... sorry it's linux, not windows.
 2°/ it simple


???

 We try to imitate windows but it's impossible with linux.
 On windows you have a file that normally have all that it need inside it
 ( dll or static ) and put them in his directory or use standard windows
 lib. If you miss something ( seldom ), just grab the right file, most of
 the time it's just the new DirectX.
 The nightmare with windows was the fact that some apps override some
 windows systems dll and of course the registry ( what a mess ). But
 besides that install an app was easy. Want a game ? put the CD,
 setup.exe and during install process if it need new directX it provide
 it for u or u can simply install it.


You're not clear, but yes, dll hell is one reason we don't like windows.

 On linux ? take the rpm/sh. arf need libGL.x.y-z and your sys have
 libGL.x.t-u and several libs depends on it. upgrade ? sometimes some
 apps requires specific version of a lib - no way. The solution ? the
 game should provide everything, put this in his own directory or in
 /usr/local or in /opt . Linux libs change quickly and often break
 compatibility somewhere ( API, ABI for C++, behaviour) because most of
 them are not mature yet.


*some* libs change rapidly, most that anyone would want to put in
proprietary app don't. And such a package should

1)Provide the libs they compiled against
2)Specifically prevent rpm dependencies on these libraries
3)In the %post, check for the required versions, if not, ensure they
will be preloaded via LD_LIBRARY_PATH when starting up the app.

 We have to cope with this. A distribution should provide an integrated
 solution with normally everything that the user will need. If newer
 version of prog are available, the user buy new CD set ( or dl iso ) and
 upgrade, or if possible the user launch is repository package
 administration tools and grab needed package.
 Normally the user should not pick rpm outside of what the distro
 provides, or pick tar.gz. If the user did it he will have to assume and
 cope with this.

 To sum up it's more freedom and openess ( Opensource, free software, ...
 ) for less freedom ( use only what your distro provide you if you're a
 newbies or else you will have to dig inside things more complicated )


IMHO, these issues are only of relevance to proprietary apps, and the
packages for those apps should know what they are doing. If they don't,
that's their problem, not ours.

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Jeudi 26 Juin 2003 20:42, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit :

  If I had not thought to press them on their file shadowing, I might
  also have left the seminar thinking that this was tool worked at the file
  level.)

 Well, the MS people gave a live demonstration of the feature, which was
 done on a specific file, so maybe the backups are done as something like
 tarballs but they were able to pick out individual files.

 Anyway I am not interesed in mimicking what MS does, but in something
 that is useful and convenient to the average MDK user.

I suggest another way : the clever trash ! (not yet patented ;-)

The trash already does exist. My idea is to improve it.
- Add a configuration file for the trash with :
a max size
select a strategy.
- If the max size is exceeded, apply the strategy :
change the icon : color, animated
play a sound
erase definitively a percentage (10% to 100%) of old/biggest files

This is not too much difficult to do and, more important, it is easily 
understandable by everybody. 
For a newbie, this can be seen as a great improvement.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21-0.0.1mdk-1-1mdk

2003-06-27 Thread Oden Eriksson
torsdagen den 26 juni 2003 14.51 skrev Tom Brinkman:
 On Thursday June 26 2003 12:12 am, Quel Qun wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:49, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
   This (enterprise-) kernel doesn't want to boot on my box (Asus
   NForce2, AMD althonXP, 1.5Gb). It panics before init message is
   shown on the screen.
  
   Anybody else?
 
  Yep, the up kernel panics here too. It looks like it is when it
  tries to initialise the file systems (reiserfs, and NTFS here).

 I had the problem with the UP kernel. Even worse, when I then
 tried to boot the kernel I've been usin (mm-18mdk), it panic'd too
 with the same 'init' error. No way to boot the system. Had to
 install 9.1 and re-update to cooker. 1.5g Athlon (oc'd), VIA kt133a
 chipset, 512mb sdram.

I compiled this one yesterday but got kernel panic as well (on 9.1).

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Re: [Cooker] Postfix sasl

2003-06-27 Thread Pierre BETOUIN
It seems that postfix (package 9.1) is broken for sasl support.
I'll try to make a bug report (bugzilla) as soon as possible.
Postfix uses libsasl2-* but plugins are threated with libsasl7-plug*...
Cooker package doesn't work : same problem.

Regards.

Pierre BETOUIN

Le jeu 26/06/2003 à 12:19, Florin a écrit :
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])[~]- /RPMS/*sasl*
 /RPMS/cyrus-sasl-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm   
 /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-plain-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm
 /RPMS/cyrus-sasl-debug-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm 
 /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-sasldb-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm
 /RPMS/libsasl2-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm 
 /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-srp-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm
 /RPMS/libsasl2-devel-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm   
 /RPMS/libsasl7-1.5.28-6mdk.i586.rpm
 /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-anonymous-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm  
 /RPMS/libsasl7-plug-anonymous-1.5.28-6mdk.i586.rpm
 /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-crammd5-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm
 /RPMS/libsasl7-plug-crammd5-1.5.28-6mdk.i586.rpm
 /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-digestmd5-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm  
 /RPMS/libsasl7-plug-digestmd5-1.5.28-6mdk.i586.rpm
 /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-gssapi-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm 
 /RPMS/libsasl7-plug-gssapi-1.5.28-6mdk.i586.rpm
 /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-login-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm  
 /RPMS/libsasl7-plug-login-1.5.28-6mdk.i586.rpm
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[Cooker] [Bug 4098] [GConf2] no configuration management for default gconf database

2003-06-27 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4098





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to 1.: maybe the schemas should only be deinstalled on package removal and not
on upgrades.

to 2. : I don't know if schemas will have to be reinstalled, I think we should
test this.

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The default gconf database (/etc/gconf) is altered by severl package post
install scripts. It is easily possible to overwrite the settings of already
installed packages (e.g. totem and nautilus-media video thumbnailer do this). 

It also seems to be impossible to undo some changes once made by the post
install scripts leaving dead/unworking stuff in there breaking things (see Bug
4097 for an example).

So we end up having race conditions between packages again: the last one
overwrites the configuration of the previous ones and never undoes them when
uninstalled.



[Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: full duplex sound drivers

2003-06-27 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
Hi!

A wish for MDK 9.2: full duplex sound drivers.

Full duplex sound drivers are a must if you want to use teleconferencing
like gnomemeeting. Some of the audio drivers delivered today in MDK 9.1
is only half duplex, eg. the one for my intel 810 sound device. 

I understand that ALSA drivers are always full duplex, while some other
drivers that are standard with the kernel is only half duplex.
I do not care whether the sound drivers are ALS or not, as long as they
are full duplex and can work with eg gnomemeeting.

I see IP telepones/teleconferencing as a major application for most
users, this is probably the new telephone, and it would be very
convenient if MDK had good support for IP telephones.

Best regards
Keld



[Cooker] [Bug 4117] [kernel-source] New: Cannot compile with module support disabled

2003-06-27 Thread [rrowan]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4117

   Product: kernel-source
 Component: kernel-source
   Summary: Cannot compile with module support disabled
   Product: kernel-source
   Version: 2.4.21-1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: major
  Priority: P2
 Component: kernel-source
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ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


2.4.21-pre2.1mdk is not on any mirror I know of, but since I haven't seen this bug 
reported, I doubt it fixes the problem.
If I configure without loadable module support, the kernel will not compile.  I can't 
remember the error, but it comes early on.  Something about MODULE.H.  I can add the 
message here, but since it only takes a few seconds to reproduce...

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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-27 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Eric Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yes, why not having rpmdrake-1 back? :))
 
 :)
 But actually the solution to make rpmdrake installer search in
 installed by default is, finally, exactly what rpmdrake 1 was
 doing !! You will have both installed and to-be-installed

exactly, I don't believe so, no. have a look again at rpmdrake1
and rpmdrake2 initial GUI appearance.

 packages in the same search list !
 The point was : why would newbies be confused by an interface
 that makes the package browsing, and then offers
 install/uninstall options ? Don't you think that make the
 installed packages appear in the rpmdrake installer even more
 confusing ?

i don't think so (though once implemented, it can be removed if
it really sux).

PS : please, no one, no offense, but I'm becoming rather tired to
 discuss that point again and again. I think points are
 clear, enough time has been lost on that, and we now have
 other interesting subjects to discuss.

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Re: [Cooker] Postfix sasl

2003-06-27 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre BETOUIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It seems that postfix (package 9.1) is broken for sasl support.

so, you talk about 9.1

 I'll try to make a bug report (bugzilla) as soon as possible.
 Postfix uses libsasl2-* but plugins are threated with libsasl7-plug*...

ah, no, now you talk about cooker? (postfix of 9.1 uses
libsasl7).

 Cooker package doesn't work : same problem.

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Re: [Cooker] poptop alias pptpd-server

2003-06-27 Thread Pascal Cavy
Le Mardi 24 Juin 2003 15:54, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit :
 On Tuesday 24 June 2003 11:50, Pascal Cavy wrote:
  Hello
 
  can pptpd-server alias poptop rpm be upgraded to version 1.1.4 please. It
  fixed problems regarding connexion of win2k client on my cooker machine.
 
  thanks

 uploaded, have fun:)

works fine, thank you  :)

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Re: [Cooker] Postfix sasl

2003-06-27 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre BETOUIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Hello,
 
 Why can't we find the directory /usr/lib/sasl when cyrus-sasl and
 postfix are both installed ?

Because you need to install the correct sasl plugins?

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Re: [Cooker] Postfix sasl

2003-06-27 Thread Florin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pierre BETOUIN) writes:
 
 It seems that postfix (package 9.1) is broken for sasl support.
 I'll try to make a bug report (bugzilla) as soon as possible.
 Postfix uses libsasl2-* but plugins are threated with libsasl7-plug*...
 Cooker package doesn't work : same problem.
 
 Regards.

so what would you recommend ?

 
   Pierre BETOUIN
 
 Le jeu 26/06/2003 =E0 12:19, Florin a =E9crit :
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])[~]- /RPMS/*sasl*=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=
 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
  /RPMS/cyrus-sasl-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm   /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-p=
 lain-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm
  /RPMS/cyrus-sasl-debug-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-s=
 asldb-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm
  /RPMS/libsasl2-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-s=
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  /RPMS/libsasl2-devel-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm   /RPMS/libsasl7-1.5.28=
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  /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-anonymous-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm  /RPMS/libsasl7-plug-a=
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  /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-crammd5-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm/RPMS/libsasl7-plug-c=
 rammd5-1.5.28-6mdk.i586.rpm
  /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-digestmd5-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm  /RPMS/libsasl7-plug-d=
 igestmd5-1.5.28-6mdk.i586.rpm
  /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-gssapi-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm /RPMS/libsasl7-plug-g=
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  /RPMS/libsasl2-plug-login-2.1.13-2mdk.i586.rpm  /RPMS/libsasl7-plug-l=
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Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: full duplex sound drivers

2003-06-27 Thread Dave Cotton
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 16:44, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:

 I do not care whether the sound drivers are ALS or not, as long as they
 are full duplex and can work with eg gnomemeeting.
 
Seconded

 I see IP telepones/teleconferencing as a major application for most
 users, this is probably the new telephone, and it would be very
 convenient if MDK had good support for IP telephones.

And again.

I've got VPNs working, now I need a convincing IP phone.

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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-27 Thread Eric Fernandez
 
 PS : please, no one, no offense, but I'm becoming rather tired to
  discuss that point again and again. I think points are
  clear, enough time has been lost on that, and we now have
  other interesting subjects to discuss.

No offense taken, fair answer :)
Do the changes, and we will discuss when we can test the new rpmdrake then.
Keep the good work.

Eric




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21-0.0.1mdk-1-1mdk

2003-06-27 Thread Eric Fernandez

- Original Message -
From: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21-0.0.1mdk-1-1mdk


 torsdagen den 26 juni 2003 14.51 skrev Tom Brinkman:
  On Thursday June 26 2003 12:12 am, Quel Qun wrote:
   On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:49, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
This (enterprise-) kernel doesn't want to boot on my box (Asus
NForce2, AMD althonXP, 1.5Gb). It panics before init message is
shown on the screen.
   
Anybody else?
  
   Yep, the up kernel panics here too. It looks like it is when it
   tries to initialise the file systems (reiserfs, and NTFS here).
 
  I had the problem with the UP kernel. Even worse, when I then
  tried to boot the kernel I've been usin (mm-18mdk), it panic'd too
  with the same 'init' error. No way to boot the system. Had to
  install 9.1 and re-update to cooker. 1.5g Athlon (oc'd), VIA kt133a
  chipset, 512mb sdram.

 I compiled this one yesterday but got kernel panic as well (on 9.1).

Hi
I was going to report it too : kernel panic with the new 0.0.1mdk kernel, I
use reiserfs.
I still boot with the previous rc1 kernel.
Eric




Re: [Cooker] Can anybody print pdf files in kde?

2003-06-27 Thread John van Spaandonk
Hi Till,

You made my day!
I can print .pdf files from the 
command line both using lp and lpr.
It was too simple for me to figure it out on my own :-(

I managed to capture some output of kghostview (which
does not work, as described earlier) by running it from
the command line (I only copied the output starting with kprint:)

kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0xbfffec14, number of objects = 1
kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x81f50f4, number of objects = 2
kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x81e4440, number of objects = 3
kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x81e4478, number of objects = 4
kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x820437c, number of objects = 5
kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x820b848, number of objects = 6
kdeprint: Checking for update possible
kdeprint: Starting async connect
kdeprint: Connection success, trying to send a request...
kdeprint: kdeprint: unregistering 0x81f50f4, number of objects = 5
kdeprint: kdeprint: unregistering 0x820b848, number of objects = 4
kdeprint: kdeprint: unregistering 0x820437c, number of objects = 3
kdeprint: 
kdeprint: PrintoutMode = High
kdeprint: _kde-filters =
kdeprint: copies = 1
kdeprint: kde-collate = Collate
kdeprint: kde-copies = 1
kdeprint: kde-current = 1
kdeprint: kde-currentpage = 1
kdeprint: kde-isspecial = 0
kdeprint: kde-maxpage = 38
kdeprint: kde-minpage = 1
kdeprint: kde-orientation = Portrait
kdeprint: kde-outputtofile = 0
kdeprint: kde-pageorder = Forward
kdeprint: kde-pageset = 0
kdeprint: kde-pagesize = 0
kdeprint: kde-preview = 0
kdeprint: kde-printcommand =
kdeprint: kde-range =
kdeprint: kde-special-command =
kdeprint: number-up = 2
kdeprint: orientation-requested = 3
kdeprint: kdeprint: status message: Sending print data to printer: HP_parallel
kdeprint: kdeprint: print command: cupsdoprint -P 'HP_parallel' -J '' -H 
'localhost:631' -U 'john' -o ' PrintoutMode=High copies=1 number-up=2 
orientation-requested=3' '/tmp/kde-john/kghostviewM9PkTb.ps'
kdeprint: kdeprint: status message:
kdeprint: kdeprint: unregistering 0xbfffec14, number of objects = 2

Hope this is of some use...

As to your questions:
Using the print function of kpdf does not work (As described earlier)
Using the print function of gs (print command: lpr) also does not work.
I did not try to install acrobat reader under wine so I cannot comment
on that.

Thx a bundle, because now my wife can keep using Linux instead of XP :-)

But can you shed any light on what is going on?
If necessary I will start bugging the kde developers!

Thx

John


On Thursday 26 June 2003 17:52, Till Kamppeter wrote:
 John van Spaandonk wrote:
  Hi,
 
  It's been months since I've been able to print pfd files
  from xpdf, kghostview or ghostview using cooker.
  I seem to remember that it worked in 9.1.
 
  Print job just disappears after a while, after job state
  in kjobviewer went to processing.
  I cannot see anything relevant in cups log.
  Switching to lpr/lpd does not help.
 
  It is possible to print to file, and this produces a
  ps file that I can view with the mentioned programs.
  Printing this file with lp however does not work.
 
  Before I file a bug report, does anybody else have this
  problem? There are no relevant cooker bug reports but
  you never know...
 
  Is this Mandrake related?
  Or kde-related? (I do not have gnome installed atm)

 Can you print PDFs directly on the command line:

 lpr file.pdf

 or with the printing functions of gv, xpdf, or acroread?

 Till




Re: [Cooker] Can anybody print pdf files in kde?

2003-06-27 Thread Dave Cotton
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 17:52, Till Kamppeter wrote:

 
 or with the printing functions of gv, xpdf, or acroread?

Just did it today.  

Mozilla - Acroread - Kprinter got the output perfectly on a Canon
LBP-4!
Got a message from kdeprinter? but everything worked after clicking OK.

Just tried to print a pdf file from a directory  Acroread - Kprinter
Got the same long message box clicked OK, just saw another window flash
on/off which said cancelled and then nothing. 

Hope this helps.

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Re: [Cooker] new userdrake

2003-06-27 Thread Buchan Milne
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Pixel wrote:
 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How much work would it be to split the gui bits from DrakX to allow
standalone use?

 not much work, at leas the GUI part. For the backend part, one must
 check that it works after install (since it may rely on things being
 untouched)

Which is why I would want to be able to use libconf if possible. Will it
be available to DrakX and drakxtools for 9.2?

Also, it can bring more possibilities (having both ldap and winbind, or
one service by ldap, another by winbind etc).

Regards,
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Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread Buchan Milne
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Rob Snow wrote:

 I believe this is currently available with LVM but I am unsure of it's
 status.


LVM snapshots are intended to be temporary (AFAIK), such as doing a
backup of a live db or similar while it is running. AFAIK, differences
get kept in memory (possibly in another volume??). It is not (AFAIK)
intended for long-term snapshots from where you would retreive files.

But we haven't needed LVM snapshots yet, although we run LVM on all our
critical servers.

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: Enterprise mail server (was Re: [Cooker] Cooker development -how do things happen?)

2003-06-27 Thread Buchan Milne
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Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Personally, I think we should not move too much away from default
 configuration. However, this is a great idea, either to put as a
 ready-to-uncomment option in the config file, or put an example
 ready-to-work config file in the docdir, for example.


IMHO, better (commented) in config file if tested. Ultimate would be GUI
tools (no, webmin isn't good enough IMHO ... Mandrake can do better ;-)).


While on the subject of postfix, there is a small change that should be
made to the cyrus transport to work out-the-box (gc?):

This is the current default transport for cyrus:
cyrus unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
  user=cyrus argv=/cyrus/bin/deliver -e -r ${sender} -m ${extension}
${user}

Where it should be:
cyrus unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
  user=cyrus argv=/usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver -e -r ${sender} -m
${extension} ${user}


 changing argv=, right? well yes, though urpmf
 /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver returns nothing (doesn't sound
 normal?).


[EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]$ urpmf /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver
cyrus-imapd:/usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]$ urpmq --sources cyrus-imapd
ftp://ftp.cae.co.za/pub/mandrake/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/cyrus-imapd-2.1.13-1mdk.i586.rpm

Who sucks? ;-)

(yes, even though it is in contrib, doesn't mean it's config entry in
postfix should be wrong).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Postfix sasl

2003-06-27 Thread Pierre BETOUIN
Le ven 27/06/2003 à 18:06, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
 Pierre BETOUIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Le ven 27/06/2003 à 16:33, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
   Pierre BETOUIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
It seems that postfix (package 9.1) is broken for sasl support.
   
   so, you talk about 9.1
  I talk about both 9.1 and cooker : they have the same problem :
  sasl support doesn't work.
 
 You can't talk about both at the same time. First, because this
 list is not a support channel for 9.1. Second, because packages
 do change, 9.1 an cooker are two different distributions.
OK, have i to explain you how are my boxes ? OK, so :
- For the 9.1. It's my server : i want a clean distro (astonishing?!),
and sure, i won't put a cooker one on it !!
- I'm running cooker (on my other boxes).

Did you really believe that i subscribed this ML, and didn't know what
was cooker ? funny.
I'm posting since more than 2 years !

I'll try to make a bug report (bugzilla) as soon as possible.
Postfix uses libsasl2-* but plugins are threated with libsasl7-plug*...
   
   ah, no, now you talk about cooker? (postfix of 9.1 uses
   libsasl7).
  The problem in 9.1 is that postfix uses libsasl7 but plugins which are
  seen are only plugins of libsasl2 (libsasl2-plug-md5cram, etc...).
 
 Are you sure of that? I think other people have successfully used
 postfix+sasl in 9.1. Though, I don't know sasl at all :/.
Yes, i am. Tested on both !! If i were not, i wouldn't post this !

  I've done tests with both plugins, and only those from libsasl2 are seen
  (making a 'helo localhost' on port 25 running postfix, by example)
  
  I don't know if it's a postfix problem or a sasl problem, but one thing
  is sure : it's broken.

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[Cooker] wavbreaker uploaded to incoming

2003-06-27 Thread David Walser
I have uploaded wavbreaker-0.3-1mdk.src.rpm to ftp.linux-mandrake.com/incoming

The application lives here: http://huli.org/wavbreaker/

It appears to pretty useful.  Enjoy!




Re: [Cooker] apache and php stuff

2003-06-27 Thread Oden Eriksson
torsdagen den 26 juni 2003 22.15 skrev David Walser:
 I was urpmi'ing a php module (that I didn't have
 installed yet) and my Cooker is a bit out of date, so
 it had to update all of the php and apache2 stuff, but
 after the urpmi command it said I had to choose either
 apache2-mod_php or php-cgi to satisfy a dependency,
 the reason being, both provide php432.  That can't
 be right.

 The other thing is, isn't apache2 the preferred apache
 now?  If so, could the apache2-suexec manpage be
 renamed back to just suexec (what it's supposed to
 be).  I'm guessing the apache1 one has that name now,
 it could be renamed to apache-suexec to stay out of
 the way.

It appears to be a RPM bug.

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Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread Rob Snow
The half-assed way MS is doing it is a hack.  What you probably really want 
is true snapshots which are done at the FS level. Check out NetApp for an 
example...snapshots are VERY handy and VERY fast way to save yourself from 
having to go to tape. (ie. 1sec to snapshot a 0.5TB filesystem)  The 
snapshots also take no space to speak of (couple megs) until you have a 
delta from the snapshot filesystem contents and the current contents since 
they refer to the same files until it changes/moves/gets deleted/etc.

Snapshots do not protect against device failures due to their nature, but 
they are great ways to do incremental backups in a very short amount of 
time.  They also allow you to rollback to some previous state in about 
1sec.  To overly simplify it: they snap a picture of the filesystem layout 
at a given time and make it static.  All changes after that to existing 
files go to a new place on the disk, leaving the old as it was until you 
free it.  As far as a nice UI, I'd be 100% against that...someone can build 
one but I want file-system level availability:

cd ~
ls
your current files
cd .snapshot-062503-1500
ls
your files as they were on 6/25/03 @ 15:00
cp accidentlly deleted file ~

You just recovered your accidentially deleted file from a snapshot back to 
your home directory.  It's not quite that simple as snapshots are done on 
the filesystem level and not (normally) on the directory level...you might 
have to cd /home/.snapshot-xyz/username, but it gets the point across.

I believe this is currently available with LVM but I am unsure of it's 
status.

Of course, another option is to use a versioned filesystem, but thats 
something else from snapshots entirely.

-Rob


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 Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Thursday 26 June 2003 02:42 pm, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
 
 
 Anyway I am not interesed in mimicking what MS does, but in something
 that is useful and convenient to the average MDK user.
 
 
  I personally don't find this useful.  When I delete a file, I want it
 to be
  deleted.  That, in combination with incremental rotating backups I do
 every
  four hours with rsync give good production and online availability of
 a file
  if deleted by accident.
 
 Anyway, one point here is that it is useless implementing something like
 this if there is not a really good consistent UI for it.
 
 One thing users hate about Windows is it hiding what it does, and at
 present we aren't any better.
 
 Maybe before adding new incomprehensible features (ie ones without a
 good UI), we should have UIs for the incomprehensible features we
 already have.
 
 ACL support in Konqueror/Nautilus would get my vote.
 
 When rollback is available in at least one filesystem (probably Reiser4
 some time after kernel 2.6.1 is out) it may be worthwhile adding a UI
 for it. In the meantime, let's get ACL support back in ext2/3, and have
 a UI for it.
 
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Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: full duplex sound drivers

2003-06-27 Thread Michael Scherer
On Friday 27 June 2003 16:44, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
 Hi!

 A wish for MDK 9.2: full duplex sound drivers.

 Full duplex sound drivers are a must if you want to use
 teleconferencing like gnomemeeting. Some of the audio drivers
 delivered today in MDK 9.1 is only half duplex, eg. the one for my
 intel 810 sound device.

 I understand that ALSA drivers are always full duplex, while some
 other drivers that are standard with the kernel is only half duplex.
 I do not care whether the sound drivers are ALS or not, as long as
 they are full duplex and can work with eg gnomemeeting.

well, mdk already ship alsa, by default.
i don't really see what they can do to have more support ,except having 
20 kernel alsa hacker on the problem.

they do what they can, but this is not mandrake responsabilty.

I would like to have a fully working acpi implementation, and a support 
for my 3d card, but I know that mdk work as hard as they can, that they 
cannot do much and I don't ask them to do this, this is not their 
business. 
A distibution integrates the technology, and something, they develop it, 
but, not for everything.

So, please, think before posting if mdk can really change something.


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[Cooker] Re: Can anybody print pdf files in kde?

2003-06-27 Thread David Walser
John van Spaandonk wrote:
 I did not try to install acrobat reader under wine so I cannot comment
 on that.

There is a Linux version.




Re: Enterprise mail server (was Re: [Cooker] Cooker development -how do things happen?)

2003-06-27 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Buchan Milne ha escrit:

Where it should be:
cyrus unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
user=cyrus argv=/usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver -e -r ${sender} -m
${extension} ${user}


changing argv=, right? well yes, though urpmf
/usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver returns nothing (doesn't sound
normal?).


[EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]$ urpmf /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver
cyrus-imapd:/usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]$ urpmq --sources cyrus-imapd
ftp://ftp.cae.co.za/pub/mandrake/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/cyrus-imapd-2.1.13-1mdk.i586.rpm
Didn't you get my 2.1.13-2mdk? You'll need it for your test setup with 
db4.1:

* Tue Jun 10 2003 Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.1.13-2mdk
- default location for ssl certificates moved to /etc/ssl/cyrus-imapd/
- added patch 11 to fix problems with berkeley db 4.1
Anyway, I made the change from /usr/lib/cyrus to /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd in 
2.1.13-1mdk, but the cvs is still at 2.1.12-7mdk

http://cvs.mandrakesoft.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/contrib-SPECS/cyrus-imapd/cyrus-imapd.spec

Who sucks? ;-)

(yes, even though it is in contrib, doesn't mean it's config entry in
postfix should be wrong).
Well, that config line refers to cyrus-imapd 1, so it's pretty safe to 
ignore it (or completely remove it).

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Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread andre
On Friday 27 June 2003 15:04, Michael Scherer wrote:
  I suggest another way : the clever trash ! (not yet patented ;-)
 
  The trash already does exist. My idea is to improve it.
  - Add a configuration file for the trash with :
  a max size
  select a strategy.
  - If the max size is exceeded, apply the strategy :
  change the icon : color, animated
  play a sound
  erase definitively a percentage (10% to 100%) of old/biggest files
 
  This is not too much difficult to do and, more important, it is
  easily understandable by everybody.
  For a newbie, this can be seen as a great improvement.

 this is more a request for kde or gnome, you should file a bug report in
 their bugzilla, this sound like a good idea.
This is not a gnome or kde issue. This should be done on a very low level so 
ALL programs will use the trash.




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21-0.0.1mdk-1-1mdk

2003-06-27 Thread Rob Snow
I can verify this behaviour (panic on boot) on:

K7N2
NForce2
512MB
120GB Maxtor
ReiserFS on /

I actually hope there is a fix fairly soon, I just accidentially removed my 
running kernel due to the versioning mix up of April/May.  Anyone have the 
previous kernel .rpm laying around?


On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:51:19 -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote
 On Thursday June 26 2003 12:12 am, Quel Qun wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:49, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
   This (enterprise-) kernel doesn't want to boot on my box (Asus
   NForce2, AMD althonXP, 1.5Gb). It panics before init message is
   shown on the screen.
  
   Anybody else?
 
  Yep, the up kernel panics here too. It looks like it is when it
  tries to initialise the file systems (reiserfs, and NTFS here).
 
 I had the problem with the UP kernel. Even worse, when I then 
 tried to boot the kernel I've been usin (mm-18mdk), it panic'd too 
 with the same 'init' error. No way to boot the system. Had to 
 install 9.1 and re-update to cooker. 1.5g Athlon (oc'd), VIA kt133a 
 chipset, 512mb sdram.
 -- 
 Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas




Re: [Cooker] new userdrake

2003-06-27 Thread Pixel
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Also, we had mentioned trying to get auth config available after
 installation.
 
 How much work would it be to split the gui bits from DrakX to allow
 standalone use?

not much work, at leas the GUI part. For the backend part, one must
check that it works after install (since it may rely on things being
untouched)



[Cooker] Kdevelop package errors?

2003-06-27 Thread Crispin Boylan
Hi

when i try to do urpmi --auto-select now i get the following errors:

The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded:
kdevelop-2.1.5-6mdk.i586 (due to missing libkdevelopqextmdi.so.2, due to 
missing libkdevelopgfxview.so.2, due to missing automake-1.4, due to 
missing libkdevelopkpp.so.2, due to missing libkdevelopdbg.so.2, due to 
missing libkdevelopkwrite.so.2, due to missing libkdevelopvc.so.2, due 
to missing autoconf-2.13, due to missing libkdevelopsetup.so.2) (y/N)

this despite the above libraries actually being part of kdevelops 
package and autoconf-2.13 and automake-1.4 actually being installed.  
This has happened ever since I installed it by hand (where it also 
complained about the lack of autoconf-2.13 and automake-1.4, even though 
they were installed then too.

I've tried removing and reinstalling the packages but no success.

Cheers
Cris.




[Cooker] [Bug 4118] [kdebase] New: Connected device icons cover desktop icons

2003-06-27 Thread [101355.471]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4118

   Product: kdebase
 Component: kdebase
   Summary: Connected device icons cover desktop icons
   Product: kdebase
   Version: 3.1.2-3mdk
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P3
 Component: kdebase
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Not sure if this is an MDK or a KDE issue. Also, due to limited bandwidth I am 
not using the latest KDE. 
 
When USB or any other removable media / devices are connected their icons cover 
desktop icons. The media / device icons appear to be placed from the bottom 
left and go up the screen as more are connected. Eventually the left hand edge 
of the screen becomes a complete mess and the icons become difficult to see and 
click on (depending on how many desktop icons were already there).

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[Cooker] [Bug 4119] [gtkam] New: file already exist pop-up

2003-06-27 Thread [didier.herisson]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4119

   Product: gtkam
 Component: program
   Summary: file already exist pop-up
   Product: gtkam
   Version: 0.1.11-0.dev1.1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


When downloading pictures from my EOS 10D using gtkam in an empty directory, for each 
picture, a pop-up windows appears files already exist after the download. The file 
is saved 
properly in the directory, but all the windows should be closed manually... 
I downloaded gphoto2, gtkam... from cooker to have support for my camera, but I'm 
still running 
LM 9.1

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[Cooker] Usability issues

2003-06-27 Thread OS
Hello,

Don't know how many saw this - `Linux: it's the Desktop, Stupid!' 
(http://theregister.co.uk/content/53/31435.html)

Food for thought maybe, given recent threads about ease of use issues ? Maybe 
we are all so used to using Linux as it is that we have lost sight of what is 
required to attract new users, especially those who simply `use' computers 
and are not interested in the slightest in `goto a consol and start up 
vi.' !!!

If I didn't have such a happy outlook I might feel that we are being got at ! 
If Linux / OSS survives being made illegal and massive lawsuits for patent / 
copyright infingements then they are goiing to get us on usability studies 
!!! :-) 

Maybe it's about time that IBM received a little dig along the lines `you put 
1 Billion $ into Linux, now how about doing the same for Linux on the Desktop 
!'. 

Owen




Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread Michael Scherer
  this is more a request for kde or gnome, you should file a bug
  report in their bugzilla, this sound like a good idea.

 This is not a gnome or kde issue. This should be done on a very low
 level so ALL programs will use the trash.

mhh, as i stated before, there is libtrash.
done at glibc level.

please google to see what i mean :)

i will post a spec tomorow if i finish it.

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Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread andre
On Friday 27 June 2003 01:45, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Thursday 26 June 2003 02:42 pm, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
  Anyway I am not interesed in mimicking what MS does, but in something
  that is useful and convenient to the average MDK user.

 I personally don't find this useful.  When I delete a file, I want it to be
 deleted.  That, in combination with incremental rotating backups I do every
 four hours with rsync give good production and online availability of a
 file if deleted by accident.

Your stating that it is completely useless but have implemented a hack which 
does exactly the same.




[Cooker] [Bug 4119] [gtkam] file already exist pop-up

2003-06-27 Thread [till]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4119





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I have forwarded this report to the GPhoto2/GTKam developers mailing list.

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When downloading pictures from my EOS 10D using gtkam in an empty directory, for each 
picture, a pop-up windows appears files already exist after the download. The file 
is saved 
properly in the directory, but all the windows should be closed manually... 
I downloaded gphoto2, gtkam... from cooker to have support for my camera, but I'm 
still running 
LM 9.1



Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 17:03, Alex Perry wrote:
 oops, I accidentally sent a blank message. anyway, I think the file
 shadow idea is a really good idea, It could be integrated into
 drakbackup,, and set to run automatically.
  
 - Alex
  
 Please ignore the MSN email address, i'm a Linux user, I swear -- i
 have to mount partitions, build kernels, and fight through version
 dependancies just like everyone else! :)

Eh? We're Mandrake users. I don't have to do any of that. =)
-- 
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[Cooker] Problems with perl dependecies...

2003-06-27 Thread J.A. Magallon
Hi all...

Latest uprmi can't auto-select the packages that contain perl modules:

werewolf:~/in# urpmi perl-libxml-enno
Some package requested cannot be installed:
perl-libxml-enno-1.02-7mdk.noarch (due to unsatisfied perl(XML::Handler::DOM)) (Y/n) 
Everything already installed

This is after installing manually some perl- packages that were required
but not installed automagically, like perl-Encoding and others.
They were required by the gimp-perl and sodipodi updates.

BTW, where is 'perl(XML::Handler::DOM)' ? urpmf is silent like dead...

TIA

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Re: Enterprise mail server (was Re: [Cooker] Cooker development - how do things happen?)

2003-06-27 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  changing argv=, right? well yes, though urpmf
  /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver returns nothing (doesn't sound
  normal?).
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]$ urpmf /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver
 cyrus-imapd:/usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]$ urpmq --sources cyrus-imapd
 ftp://ftp.cae.co.za/pub/mandrake/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/cyrus-imapd-2.1.13-1mdk.i586.rpm
 
 Who sucks? ;-)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/rpm] cat /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg 
cooker file://mnt/BIG/distrib/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS {
  hdlist: hdlist.cooker.cz
  with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
  list: list.cooker
}

:(

(e.g. urpmf on our compilation cluster won't print contrib stuff)
 
 (yes, even though it is in contrib, doesn't mean it's config entry in
 postfix should be wrong).

yes of course :).

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Re: [Cooker] problem with rpmdrake

2003-06-27 Thread andre
On Thursday 26 June 2003 22:36, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 it'll be tomorrow. I've had trouble fixing a nasty
 translation/utf8 bug i've only tracked down minutes before going
 out to my japanese language yearly exam. sorry for the delay.
I could install rpms with rpmdrake today but after some time using it i got 
this error

Cannot make temp dir /tmp/rpmdrake.AKjRIp
Could not create temporary directory at /usr/sbin/rpmdrake line 244





Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread andre
On Friday 27 June 2003 21:04, Michael Scherer wrote:
   this is more a request for kde or gnome, you should file a bug
   report in their bugzilla, this sound like a good idea.
 
  This is not a gnome or kde issue. This should be done on a very low
  level so ALL programs will use the trash.

 mhh, as i stated before, there is libtrash.
 done at glibc level.

 please google to see what i mean :)

 i will post a spec tomorow if i finish it.
But even glibc may not be low level enough and what does it do with files that 
are overwriten.




Re: [Cooker] Postfix sasl

2003-06-27 Thread Michael Scherer
 Did you really believe that i subscribed this ML, and didn't know
 what was cooker ? funny.

well, don't laugh, some time, it happens.
we cannot know every poster, since the dailly mail number  is pretty 
high

  Are you sure of that? I think other people have successfully used
  postfix+sasl in 9.1. Though, I don't know sasl at all :/.

 Yes, i am. Tested on both !! If i were not, i wouldn't post this !

well, the problem is that, when nothing work, you cannot be sure to have 
configurated right.

are you sure that your sasl setup is right ?
and so on ?

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Re: [Cooker] Can anybody print pdf files in kde?

2003-06-27 Thread Dave Cotton
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 18:06, John van Spaandonk wrote:

 I can print .pdf files from the 
 command line both using lp and lpr.

Just the same, but how did we end up with lp -d printer_name and lpr -P
printer_name, I've got two printers attached.


 kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0xbfffec14, number of objects = 1
 kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x81f50f4, number of objects = 2
 kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x81e4440, number of objects = 3
 kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x81e4478, number of objects = 4
 kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x820437c, number of objects = 5
 kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x820b848, number of objects = 6

That looks about the same as mine.

 Using the print function of kpdf does not work (As described earlier)

Xpdf did work, KGhostView works

Does anyone know a good paper recycler?


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Re: [Cooker] problem with rpmdrake

2003-06-27 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thursday 26 June 2003 22:36, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
  it'll be tomorrow. I've had trouble fixing a nasty
  translation/utf8 bug i've only tracked down minutes before going
  out to my japanese language yearly exam. sorry for the delay.
 I could install rpms with rpmdrake today but after some time using it i got 
 this error
 
 Cannot make temp dir /tmp/rpmdrake.AKjRIp
 Could not create temporary directory at /usr/sbin/rpmdrake line 244

 wow!!

is it reproducible?

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Re: [Cooker] problem with rpmdrake

2003-06-27 Thread andre
On Friday 27 June 2003 22:21, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I could install rpms with rpmdrake today but after some time using it i
  got this error
 
  Cannot make temp dir /tmp/rpmdrake.AKjRIp
  Could not create temporary directory at /usr/sbin/rpmdrake line 244

  wow!!

 is it reproducible?
Try to install devfs




Re: [Cooker] apt for mandrake

2003-06-27 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:35:05PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
 
  Christiaan Welvaart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 util-linux: Depends: shadow-utils (= 2902-5) but 1:4.0.3-5mdk is
   installed
 
  apt bug: 1:1 is greater than 0:
 
 Of course, but assuming epoch=0 when epoch is missing from version does
 not work. For example gimp requires libgimp1.2 = 1.2.3-21mdk, but
 libgimp1.2 has version 1:1.2.3-21mdk. You can see all of these as warnings
 in the output ofrpm -Vav --nofiles
 
   I looked a bit at the version compare code but it seems ok to me,
   handling epochs and even using rpmlib to compare versions.
 
  however, it really is buggy
 
 I believe rpmdsCompare doesn't work very well and apt didn't work around
 it. That should be fixed now.
 
 The sources.list is a bit different than regular apt-rpm, the supplied
 default sources.list reflects that.
 
 i586:
 http://www.time4t.net/~cjw/mdk-cooker/RPMS/apt-0.5.5cnc6-2mdk.i586.rpm
 http://www.time4t.net/~cjw/mdk-cooker/RPMS/libapt0.5-0.5.5cnc6-2mdk.i586.rpm
 http://www.time4t.net/~cjw/mdk-cooker/RPMS/libapt0.5-devel-0.5.5cnc6-2mdk.i586.rpm
 http://www.time4t.net/~cjw/mdk-cooker/RPMS/synaptic-0.37-1mdk.i586.rpm
 
 ppc:
 http://www.time4t.net/~cjw/mdk-cooker-ppc/RPMS/apt-0.5.5cnc6-2mdk.ppc.rpm
 http://www.time4t.net/~cjw/mdk-cooker-ppc/RPMS/libapt0.5-0.5.5cnc6-2mdk.ppc.rpm
 http://www.time4t.net/~cjw/mdk-cooker-ppc/RPMS/libapt0.5-devel-0.5.5cnc6-2mdk.ppc.rpm
 http://www.time4t.net/~cjw/mdk-cooker-ppc/RPMS/synaptic-0.37-1mdk.ppc.rpm
 
 src:
 http://www.time4t.net/~cjw/mdk-cooker/SRPMS/apt-0.5.5cnc6-2mdk.src.rpm
 http://www.time4t.net/~cjw/mdk-cooker/SRPMS/synaptic-0.37-1mdk.src.rpm

Hmm, tried to install things on my mdk 9.1 system, but i did not have
librpm4.2 only librpm4.0.4 Would it be possible for you to build it
with a dependency on librpm4.0 ?

best regards
keld



Re: [Cooker] problem with rpmdrake

2003-06-27 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Friday 27 June 2003 22:21, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
  andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   I could install rpms with rpmdrake today but after some time using it i
   got this error
  
   Cannot make temp dir /tmp/rpmdrake.AKjRIp
   Could not create temporary directory at /usr/sbin/rpmdrake line 244
 
   wow!!
 
  is it reproducible?
 Try to install devfs

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# mount | grep devfs
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)
none on /dev type devfs (rw)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ps auxww | grep devfsd
root   650  0.0  0.1  2060  424 ?S18:13   0:00 /sbin/devfsd /dev

I've seen no problem.. (but didn't use rpmdrake for a long time
in a row).

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Re: [Cooker] problem with rpmdrake

2003-06-27 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Has nothing to do with installing devfsd.
 A cron job was accessing the rpm database and when i wanted to select or just 
 read the summary of a rpm it would crash

Should not be *that* violent even if you're doing something more
or less wrong.. is there anything prior to the mkstemp failure?

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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software

2003-06-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 14:16, FACORAT Fabrice wrote:

 True.
 On top of that we can think a little bit about rpmdrake and linux
 system. With linux user can't easily install an app if the app is :
  1°/ a package that requires others libs

? That's exactly what rpmdrake is for.

  2°/ not a rpm provide by mdk ( as others rpms may not work well because
 of provides/requires/etc ... pb )

This is not something we should fix. Instead, users need to understand
why it is not in fact a problem.

 What about a foreign/not mdk package ? ... urpmi/gurpmi. Why ? because :

No. Making it easier to install non-mdk packages is simply making it
easier to screw up the system, so make it as hard as possible.

 1°/ It will try to install this package and the required dependencies if
 possible. If it failed ... sorry it's linux, not windows.

dependencies are not a sufficient safeguard for foreign packages,
because of such things as overly fuzzy dependencies (say a Red Hat
package just says it needs libxyz, because there's only one version of
libxyz in Red Hat, so it installs happily on Mandrake, where there's a
completely different version of libxyz, then crashes on run).

 2°/ it simple

No. See above.

 We try to imitate windows but it's impossible with linux.
 On windows you have a file that normally have all that it need inside it
 ( dll or static ) and put them in his directory or use standard windows
 lib. If you miss something ( seldom ), just grab the right file, most of
 the time it's just the new DirectX.
 The nightmare with windows was the fact that some apps override some
 windows systems dll and of course the registry ( what a mess ). But
 besides that install an app was easy. Want a game ? put the CD,
 setup.exe and during install process if it need new directX it provide
 it for u or u can simply install it.
 
 On linux ? take the rpm/sh. arf need libGL.x.y-z and your sys have
 libGL.x.t-u and several libs depends on it. upgrade ? sometimes some
 apps requires specific version of a lib - no way. The solution ? the
 game should provide everything, put this in his own directory or in
 /usr/local or in /opt . Linux libs change quickly and often break
 compatibility somewhere ( API, ABI for C++, behaviour) because most of
 them are not mature yet.

You're simply talking about static compilation, which is exactly what
commercially distributed, closed-source games for Linux do. It's really
far less of a problem than it's made out to be. Quake 3 works perfectly
well on Linux, for instance - it just has all the stuff it needs
statically compiled into it, you drop a copy on any remotely modern
distribution with sufficient hardware and it will run perfectly.

 To sum up it's more freedom and openess ( Opensource, free software, ...
 ) for less freedom ( use only what your distro provide you if you're a
 newbies or else you will have to dig inside things more complicated )

Which is correct for now. Until it's less dangerous to install non-mdk
packages, we should not make it easier to do so. Of course, it would be
very nice to work towards *making* it less dangerous, but get the two in
the right order. :)
-- 
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Re: [Cooker] gettext and libiconv.so.2

2003-06-27 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:59:59 +0800
R.I.P. Deaddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Yes, the stock libtool 1.5 has just partially fixed the DESTDIR issue.
 Now at least stuff can build successfully even if no preinstalled
 libraries were present, but if you have preinstalled older libraries,
 then these old libraries in system library path will be picked up
 during relinking stage. Nasty.
 

Not sure what you mean.
Are you speaking of the build or the performance of the resulting rpms?

Using libtool-1.5, built from a mdkized rh spec, I do not have any
problem building gettext-1.2 with all other libs and apps being
current cooker.

BTW why is there not a mdk pkg for libtool-1.5? 
It been the stable release since April.
Don't tell me we are planning to release 9.2 still with 1.4.3.


Charles

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Re: [Cooker] problem with rpmdrake

2003-06-27 Thread andre
Has nothing to do with installing devfsd.
A cron job was accessing the rpm database and when i wanted to select or just 
read the summary of a rpm it would crash




[Cooker] 2.4.21-1mdk kernel source doesn't build?

2003-06-27 Thread Rob Snow
I've tried a couple of times to build a kernel from the latest kernel-
sources with the defconfig file in arch/i386 and it craps out in the 
ambassador.c file in the atm section.  Is the defconfig not the .config that 
the packaged RPM is made with?  If not, where is the RPM .config file?  If 
so, shouldn't I be able to reproduce the RPM kernel?



Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 27 June 2003 02:26 pm, andre wrote:
 On Friday 27 June 2003 01:45, Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Thursday 26 June 2003 02:42 pm, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
   Anyway I am not interesed in mimicking what MS does, but in something
   that is useful and convenient to the average MDK user.
 
  I personally don't find this useful.  When I delete a file, I want it to
  be deleted.  That, in combination with incremental rotating backups I do
  every four hours with rsync give good production and online availability
  of a file if deleted by accident.

 Your stating that it is completely useless but have implemented a hack
 which does exactly the same.

No, I think the difference is that I completely control when something gets 
deleted for good, and within two days, if I don't need the deleted files 
because of a mistake, they are gone.  The system I see you all raving about 
could potentially leave files that were intended to be deleted hanging around 
for a very long time without the user being aware of it.

I really don't see the benefits.  I haven't really seen any compelling 
arguments for this other than people saying they like the idea.  Why?
-- 
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[Cooker] [Bug 3452] [ifplugd] Drakconnect fails Internet connection - Internal Network Access Available

2003-06-27 Thread [robert.p.goldman]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3452





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I can confirm this behavior, having also see it on a Mandrake 9.1 machine  Here
are relevant lines from the logs:

Jun 26 22:19:56 jukebox ifplugd[661]: Warning: Could not get interface address. 
Jun 26 22:19:56 jukebox ifplugd[661]: Using interface eth0/00:C0:4F:B2:93:FD
with driver 3c59x LK1.1.18-ac 
Jun 26 22:19:56 jukebox ifplugd[661]: ETHTOOL_GLINK failed: Operation not supported 
Jun 26 22:19:56 jukebox ifplugd[661]: ifplugd 0.13 successfully initialized,
link beat not detected. 
Jun 26 22:19:56 jukebox network: Bringing up interface eth0:  failed 

For me, the solution was to add 

MII_NOT_SUPPORTED=yes

to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

Let me suggest three things that might be done to help this:

1.  Improve the documentation.  The documentation for ifcfg does not mention
MII_NOT_SUPPORTED.  This should change.

2.  /etc/rc.d/init.d/network currently greps
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-devicename for the above flag.  This
means that we're violating the announced structure of that file, since we're
just looking for a key, instead of loading the file and evaluating the
variables.  This is probably not a good thing.  Can we change how the network
script checks for this feature?  I realize that loading the ifcfg file might be
inconvenient, since the network file maps over all interfaces, but still this
approach is no good.  Perhaps have a command that will load the file and check
the value of this variable (a la is_wireless_interface)?

3.  Add something to drakconnect to verify that ifplugd will work on an
interface and deactivate it if not.

As an aside, I was a little nonplussed to find that removing eth0 from
ifplugd.conf had no effect on this problem.  I.e., /etc/rc.d/init.d/network and
ifplugd can actually be in a state where they disagree about whether or not
ifplugd is responsible for a given interface.  That's probably not a good thing.

This may be more than just a normal severity bug, since you have to be
relatively familiar with the networking scripts to work around it.

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This bug is similar to bug 2088 and 2932.  With two different computers, I can ping 
and access other computers on the network, but cannot connect to the Internet.  The 
appropriate tool for correction is drakconnect.  Mandrake Control Center-Network  
Internet-Connection.  

In /var/log/syslog, when trying to run drakconnect, the log file shows:
network:  Shutting down loopback interface:  succeeded
network: Setting network parameters: succeeded
ifup: RTNETLINK answers: no such device
network: Bringing up loopback interface: succeeded
ifplugd [9073] Warning: Could not get interface address
ifplugd [9073] Using interface eth0/00:01:03:8C:E0:D9 with driver 3c59x LK1.1.18-ac
ifplugd [9073] ETHTOOL_GLINK failed: Operation not supported
ifplugd [9073] Executing '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action eth0 up'.
CROND [9114] (mail) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /var/lib/mailman/cron/grunner)
CROND [9114] (mail) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /var/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news)
dhclient DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
dhclient DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1
dhclient bout to 192.168.1.101 -- renewal in 32953 seconds
ifplugd [9073] client: Determining IP information for eth0 ... done.
ifplugd [9073] Program executed successfully.
network: Bringing up interface eth0: succeeded
CROND[9216] (mail) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /var/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner)
CROND[9231] (mail) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /var/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner)
ifplugd [9073] Link beat lost
ifplugd [9073] Executing '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action eth0 down'.
ifplugd [9073] Program executed successfully.


Does it establish a connection at all?  - I have two computers, a laptop and a desktop 
both running Mandrake 9.1rc2.  Yesterday, and for a few weeks, the Compaq Presario 
desktop was connected to the Internet using Mandrake 9.1rc2.  Today the desktop will 
no longer connect to the Internet.  Yesterday, I loaded the laptop running Mandrake 
9.0, with Mandrake 9.1rc2, and the Dell C600 laptop can no longer connect to the 
Internet, although both computers can access, and ping other computers running on an 
internal network.  I was able to connect and use a VNC with the Dell C600 laptop 
running Mandrake 9.1rc2.  This bug is limited to establishing an Internet connection.

In which situation does it fail?  - Currently both my Dell C600 Laptop and on the 
Compaq Presario 5423 desktop systems fail on every occasion in trying to connect to 
the Internet.  I have tried at least 10 times on both machines, with a variety of 

[Cooker] Re: Kaffeine RPM

2003-06-27 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Sébastien Prud'homme :
 Hi,

 I've made a RPM/SRPM for Kaffeine application (a Xine KDE frontend, see
 http://members.chello.at/kaffeine). I'd like to know if it's possible to
 include it in the PLF repository (or maybe the Mandrake Contrib
 repository?)
I don't see anything preventing inclusion in official contrib from their web 
site. Just give me an url for the SRPM, i'll upload it.
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-- Murphy's Computer Laws n°3




Re: [Cooker] Can anybody print pdf files in kde?

2003-06-27 Thread John van Spaandonk
On Friday 27 June 2003 20:21, Dave Cotton wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 18:06, John van Spaandonk wrote:
  I can print .pdf files from the
  command line both using lp and lpr.

 Just the same, but how did we end up with lp -d printer_name and lpr -P
 printer_name, I've got two printers attached.

? Here I don't understand you, but I'm not a native English speaker :-\

  kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0xbfffec14, number of objects = 1
  kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x81f50f4, number of objects = 2
  kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x81e4440, number of objects = 3
  kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x81e4478, number of objects = 4
  kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x820437c, number of objects = 5
  kdeprint: kdeprint: registering 0x820b848, number of objects = 6

 That looks about the same as mine.

  Using the print function of kpdf does not work (As described earlier)

 Xpdf did work, KGhostView works

I switch on the printer...
xpdf does nothing with print commands lp or lpr.
lpq reports two print jobs, first one stays at processing, second queued.
Nothing happens at the printer.
Now I think about switching off and on my printer and lo and behold,
the first print job comes out.
And then the second.
I can now print from an application! (ok, the humble xpdf).

kghostview still does not work.
Printjobs disappear mysteriously from the queue after having been
processing for a short while.

Wow, I did not even know there were so many pdf viewing applications!


 Does anyone know a good paper recycler?
LOL
I know how you feel. 
Check out http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3138. 
Cost me about half a cartridge and several hundred pages of paper.

John




Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
Greg Meyer wrote:

On Friday 27 June 2003 02:26 pm, andre wrote:
 

On Friday 27 June 2003 01:45, Greg Meyer wrote:
   

On Thursday 26 June 2003 02:42 pm, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
 

Anyway I am not interesed in mimicking what MS does, but in something
that is useful and convenient to the average MDK user.
   

I personally don't find this useful.  When I delete a file, I want it to
be deleted.  That, in combination with incremental rotating backups I do
every four hours with rsync give good production and online availability
of a file if deleted by accident.
 

Your stating that it is completely useless but have implemented a hack
which does exactly the same.
   

No, I think the difference is that I completely control when something gets 
deleted for good, and within two days, if I don't need the deleted files 
because of a mistake, they are gone.  The system I see you all raving about 
could potentially leave files that were intended to be deleted hanging around 
for a very long time without the user being aware of it.

That would all depend on the policy you define for it. As a matter of 
fact: why not use the disk close to 100% all the time? The usage by the 
operational system may be _much_ lower, but the spare space can still be 
used for snapshots, deleted files, etc. etc. You just need a smart 
filesystem to do it.

I really don't see the benefits.  I haven't really seen any compelling 
arguments for this other than people saying they like the idea.  Why?
 

Hmmm... IMHO: I really love the way Network Appliance has implemented 
their snapshot and data recovery features in their (filer) products. 
It's what makes them rock.

Back in 1999 I managed storage for a 700 person company on a Sun E3000. 
At that time managing it was a total nightmare. Solaris didn't support 
group quota's (linux did at that time) and keeping projects (groups) 
from using too much space meant keeping them on a seperate partitions 
(or disks). With a fully loaded E3000, 3 storage arrays, some disks 
raided it still all added up to _many_ filesystems. Backups were a 
nightmare, and recovering files took a lot of time. Oh yeah, we were 
serving files out to the unix people with automounted NFS and to the 
windows people with SMB (Totalnet Advanced Server).

I would have _loved_ to loose the E3K and use a netapp filer instead. 
The netapp WAFL filesystem rules. A few years later the company did 
retire the E3K and moved to a netapp filer.

I must say, Microsoft is listening to their customers when it comes to 
this kind of functionality. I hope linux can provide the same kind of 
functionality one day, in the filesystem and without any sysadmin 
hacks... Perhaps with reiser v3,4,5 ?

regards,

Stefan


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[Cooker] Re: apache and php stuff

2003-06-27 Thread David Walser
Oden Eriksson wrote:
 torsdagen den 26 juni 2003 22.15 skrev David Walser:
 I was urpmi'ing a php module (that I didn't have
 installed yet) and my Cooker is a bit out of date, so
 it had to update all of the php and apache2 stuff, but
 after the urpmi command it said I had to choose either
 apache2-mod_php or php-cgi to satisfy a dependency,
 the reason being, both provide php432.  That can't
 be right.

 The other thing is, isn't apache2 the preferred apache
 now?  If so, could the apache2-suexec manpage be
 renamed back to just suexec (what it's supposed to
 be).  I'm guessing the apache1 one has that name now,
 it could be renamed to apache-suexec to stay out of
 the way.
 
 It appears to be a RPM bug.

Which one?

For the php432, this line appears in both the apache2-mod_php and php (php-cgi 
section) spec files.  It gives them that provides:
Provides:   php%{libversion}

The php-dba_bundle spec file has:
Requires:   php%{libversion}

So, that appears to be a packaging error.  Or is it true that you can have either 
apache2-mod_php or php-cgi, not have the other, and have enough for php-dba_bundle to 
work?  If so, then I guess it's OK, though it was a bit unexpected.

If you were referring to the suexec thing, the apache2-mod_suexec spec file contains 
the following lines:
install -m4711 suexec %{buildroot}%{_sbindir}/%{ap_name}-suexec
install suexec.8 %{buildroot}%{_mandir}/man8/%{ap_name}-suexec.8

so that's a packaging problem (if you want to call it a problem).  I was just saying 
that if apache2 is the preferred apache now, those should be installed with their 
normal names, and apache1 should work around it.




[Cooker] - written in working dir when urpmi is invoked?

2003-06-27 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
Q: Why is a file named - (minus) written to the current directory when 
urpmi is invoked?

To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be 
installed (2 MB):
libaa1-1.4.0-0.rc5.4mdk.x86_64
libaa1-devel-1.4.0-0.rc5.4mdk.x86_64
libslang1-1.4.5-2mdk.x86_64
libslang1-devel-1.4.5-2mdk.x86_64
Is this OK? (Y/n)

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Re: [Cooker] Can anybody print pdf files in kde?

2003-06-27 Thread Dave Cotton
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 00:25, John van Spaandonk wrote:
   I can print .pdf files from the
   command line both using lp and lpr.

Then I commented
  Just the same, but how did we end up with lp -d printer_name and lpr -P
  printer_name, I've got two printers attached.

To which John wrote:

 ? Here I don't understand you, but I'm not a native English speaker :-

Don't worry, I don't think even native speakers understood it.

What happened was that I thought I had the problem with lp and lpr. I
did lp xxx.pdf nothing happened. Then I did 'lpr xxx.pdf' and got a
message to say the job was queued for the Epson printer but that was not
connected, my son has 'borrowed' it. So now I had to direct the output
to the Canon, so I typed 'lp -p canon xxx.pdf', quick error message, OK
'man lp', 'man lpr', lp needs -d printer_name, lpr needs -P printer_name
as the argument

But I may have stumbled on something, the Epson and Canon are both on
the same parallel port, there is a manual switch. So really the Canon
should have swallowed a load of Epson codes and printed pages of
garbage. Is it the drivers? What is your printer?

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Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-27 Thread andre
On Friday 27 June 2003 23:52, Greg Meyer wrote:
 No, I think the difference is that I completely control when something gets
 deleted for good, and within two days, if I don't need the deleted files
 because of a mistake, they are gone.  The system I see you all raving about
 could potentially leave files that were intended to be deleted hanging
 around for a very long time without the user being aware of it.

But you know they are not deleted. they are removed. The change that you can 
retrieve the file is 100%(expect in the case you need the file, than it is 
0%). Why else does kde have a program to shred a file and is there a ext2 
undelete. If you have versioning or snapshot the system is just more pleasant 
to work in and you still know what you deleted


 I really don't see the benefits.  I haven't really seen any compelling
 arguments for this other than people saying they like the idea.  Why?


ps. read chapter 2
http://research.microsoft.com/~daniel/unix-haters.html




Re: [Cooker] problem with rpmdrake

2003-06-27 Thread andre
On Friday 27 June 2003 22:43, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Friday 27 June 2003 22:21, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
   andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I could install rpms with rpmdrake today but after some time using it
i got this error
   
Cannot make temp dir /tmp/rpmdrake.AKjRIp
Could not create temporary directory at /usr/sbin/rpmdrake line 244
  
    wow!!
  
   is it reproducible?
 
  Try to install devfs

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# mount | grep devfs
 none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)
 none on /dev type devfs (rw)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ps auxww | grep devfsd
 root   650  0.0  0.1  2060  424 ?S18:13   0:00 /sbin/devfsd
 /dev

 I've seen no problem.. (but didn't use rpmdrake for a long time
 in a row).

It was not this. it was a rpm cron job




[Cooker] Re: Problems with perl dependecies...

2003-06-27 Thread Frej Rasmussen
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:04:00 +0200, J.A. Magallon wrote:

 Hi all...
 
 Latest uprmi can't auto-select the packages that contain perl modules:
 
 werewolf:~/in# urpmi perl-libxml-enno Some package requested cannot be
 installed: perl-libxml-enno-1.02-7mdk.noarch (due to unsatisfied
 perl(XML::Handler::DOM)) (Y/n) Everything already installed
 
 This is after installing manually some perl- packages that were
 required but not installed automagically, like perl-Encoding and others.
 They were required by the gimp-perl and sodipodi updates.
 
 BTW, where is 'perl(XML::Handler::DOM)' ? urpmf is silent like dead...
 
 TIA

Check bug http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4109

Bug in some compatability code. Which actually doesnt work. So it's not of
much use at all.

This actually blocks sodipodi.

Frej Rasmussen




[Cooker] [Bug 4090] [gnome-vfs2] [PATCH] Clicking on URL causes hang/crash

2003-06-27 Thread [dcotton]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4090





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It's still there 27/6, I'd forgotten my Bugzilla password to had to copy/paste
lots of times.

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[Cooker] [Bug 3740] [ifplugd] eth1 doesn't come up automatically

2003-06-27 Thread [robert.p.goldman]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3740


[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  BugsThisDependsOn||3452




--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-27-06 19:10 ---
Added dependency on 3452 --- seems closely related since that's another problem
with ifplugd causing network startup to fail.  In general what's needed seems to
be some facility to recover from ifplugd's failure to commission an interface. 
It would be nice if drakconnect would notice such problems.  It might also be
nice to have some kind of network debugging wizard that would help fix such
problems.

Also, note that if you put MII_NOT_SUPPORTED=0 in the file (or for that matter,
ANY value for this flag), /etc/rc.d/init.d/network will treat it the same.  See
my comments in bug 3452.

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I have a Xircom Symphony wireless card (unsupported by Mandrake) for eth1. The kernel 
module gets loaded during the boot (ifconfig eth1 show the interface, but without an 
IP 
address), but the network doesn't come up until I enter ifup eth1 at a shell. 
 
 /var/log/messages shows 
 
Apr 12 08:13:24 axon ifplugd[925]: Warning: Could not get interface address. 
Apr 12 08:13:24 axon ifplugd[925]: Using interface eth1/00:20:A6:36:98:E4 
Apr 12 08:13:24 axon ifplugd[925]: ETHTOOL_GLINK failed: Operation not supported 
Apr 12 08:13:24 axon ifplugd[925]: SIOCGMIIPHY failed: Operation not supported 
Apr 12 08:13:24 axon ifplugd[925]: ifplugd 0.13 successfully initialized, link beat 
not 
detected.



[Cooker] [Bug 4088] [drakxtools] ADSL connection

2003-06-27 Thread [rohitkaul]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4088





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I opened a new report wrt latest version, because I was afraid that bug 4050
with reference to an older version (9.1) might go ignored (and also given the
scope of the bug, it seemed important to get it noticed).

Seems like I was right, the 4050 has still not been looked at.

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* Also, it might be important to get it into errata for 9.1 so that adsl users
can connect to internet.
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Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: full duplex sound drivers

2003-06-27 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
On Friday 27 June 2003 11:13 am, Dave Cotton wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 16:44, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
  I do not care whether the sound drivers are ALS or not, as long as they
  are full duplex and can work with eg gnomemeeting.

 Seconded
Re-seconded. (Thirded?  )

  I see IP telepones/teleconferencing as a major application for most
  users, this is probably the new telephone, and it would be very
  convenient if MDK had good support for IP telephones.

 And again.

 I've got VPNs working, now I need a convincing IP phone.
V.




Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: full duplex sound drivers

2003-06-27 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
Oops.. saw the reply later in the thread.. never mind. 
V.

On Friday 27 June 2003 08:53 pm, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote:
 On Friday 27 June 2003 11:13 am, Dave Cotton wrote:
  On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 16:44, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
   I do not care whether the sound drivers are ALS or not, as long as they
   are full duplex and can work with eg gnomemeeting.
 
  Seconded

 Re-seconded. (Thirded?  )

   I see IP telepones/teleconferencing as a major application for most
   users, this is probably the new telephone, and it would be very
   convenient if MDK had good support for IP telephones.
 
  And again.
 
  I've got VPNs working, now I need a convincing IP phone.

 V.




[Cooker] rpmdrake

2003-06-27 Thread Bernard Varaine
get this error after upgrading as of cooker last night

Can't call method signal_connect on an undefined value at
/usr/lib/libDrakX/ugtk2.pm line 1282.


BErnard




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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] postfix-2.0.12-1mdk

2003-06-27 Thread Luca Berra
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 11:14:13AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
But, I still haven't managed to get postfix to auth against LDAP via
saslauthd on our new 9.1 box, with all related bits compiled against
db4.1, sasl2, openldap-2.1. Cyrus auth's fine against LDAP via
saslauthd, so I am not sure where the problem is. I am not using the
cooker postfix SRPM, since I didn't feel like tracking down the TLS
patch for openssl-0.9.7a.
do you have any hint in logfiles?

L.

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Re: Enterprise mail server (was Re: [Cooker] Cooker development - how do things happen?)

2003-06-27 Thread Luca Berra
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 06:29:45PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
Personally, I think we should not move too much away from default
configuration. However, this is a great idea, either to put as a
ready-to-uncomment option in the config file, or put an example
ready-to-work config file in the docdir, for example.
well, so we would need to push changes upstream :)

changing argv=, right? well yes, though urpmf
/usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver returns nothing (doesn't sound
normal?).
i'd still prefer to see the lines using lmtp i posted previously

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[Cooker] [Bug 4120] [nautilus] New: No default handler for .ZIP files

2003-06-27 Thread [fgriffin]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4120

   Product: nautilus
 Component: program
   Summary: No default handler for .ZIP files
   Product: nautilus
   Version: 2.3.4-2mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: program
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The Nautilus in the May 18 Cooker uses File Roller as the default viewer for
.jar files, but if you double-click on a .zip file, it tells you there is no
viewer associated with the file type.

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[Cooker] [Bug 4121] [kernel] New: No /dev/rtc or CDROM with latest cooker kernel

2003-06-27 Thread [paul]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4121

   Product: kernel
 Component: enterprise
   Summary: No /dev/rtc or CDROM with latest cooker kernel
   Product: kernel
   Version: 2.4.21-pre2.1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: enterprise
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I installed kernel-enterprise-2.4.21-0.0.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm yesterday.  I 
have several issues with it. 
 
1. No /dev/rtc is present on boot.  This means software like vmware that some 
of us use for running essential tools under that other operating system don't 
work well.  In fact they barely work at all. 
 
2. Another name collision.  This version of the kernel replaced the last 
version, which worked very well for me.  I can restore it, at least I think I 
have the RPM, but this is the second time we have had a name collision in the 
2.4.21 kernel releases.  This really shouldn't happen. 
 
3. CDROM access is terrible.  I haven't been able to get it to mount since the 
kernel upgrade.  The message is 
 
mount /mnt/cdrom 
/dev/hdc: Input/output error 
mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified 
 or 
mount /mnt/cdrom 
mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist 
 
depending on how I try to set up my fstab.  This seems to mean that ide-scsi 
is not working.

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[Cooker] [Bug 4121] [kernel] No /dev/rtc or CDROM with latest cooker kernel

2003-06-27 Thread [cory.meisch]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4121





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Cannnot access cdrom drive either.

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I installed kernel-enterprise-2.4.21-0.0.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm yesterday.  I 
have several issues with it. 
 
1. No /dev/rtc is present on boot.  This means software like vmware that some 
of us use for running essential tools under that other operating system don't 
work well.  In fact they barely work at all. 
 
2. Another name collision.  This version of the kernel replaced the last 
version, which worked very well for me.  I can restore it, at least I think I 
have the RPM, but this is the second time we have had a name collision in the 
2.4.21 kernel releases.  This really shouldn't happen. 
 
3. CDROM access is terrible.  I haven't been able to get it to mount since the 
kernel upgrade.  The message is 
 
mount /mnt/cdrom 
/dev/hdc: Input/output error 
mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified 
 or 
mount /mnt/cdrom 
mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist 
 
depending on how I try to set up my fstab.  This seems to mean that ide-scsi 
is not working.



Boot Problems on Powerbook G4

2003-06-27 Thread John G. Cole
I could not get Mandrake 9.1 PPC to install on my 12 Powerbook G4 
(NVIDIA GeForce4) using any of the gui setups.  When I went to 
install-text the installation failed with a keyboard ioctl error (early 
in the installation).  When I installed with install-gui-benh text the 
installation seemed to go fine. (Allocated all remaining free space in 
the installation ~ 15G)

When I choose linux on the bootloader and boot linux the boot fails with 
errors starting with

mount: error 6 mounting ext3 flags (null)
well, retrying read-only without any flag
mount: error 6 mounting ext3
pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot,/sysroot/initrd) failed: 2
Remounting devfs at correct place if necessary
Mounted devfs on /dev
Freeing unused kernel memory: 160k init 4k chrp 8k prep
Kernel panic: No init found.  Try passing init= option to kernel
I don't know what init= option to pass to the kernel -- by the way at 
the top of the screen (above the logo) the kernel is listed as Linux 
2.4.21-0.13mdk  -- is it possible that the benh kernel was not installed 
somehow?

Any help would be appreciated




Frozen G3 PB up wake up

2003-06-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi All,

I am hoping someone has some info on what I am seeing on my G3 PB 
(Pismo). Occationally (say once every 50 sleep/wake-up cycles) the PB 
freezes upon wake up. Here's what I observe:

   * PB goes to sleep normally up closing the lid (or appears to)
   * Lifting the lid initiates wake-up,
 o The screen appears
 o The backlight comes on
 o The hard drive spins up
   * However the computer is frozen, no mouse, no activity on the
 screen, the PB will not return pings from another computer
I have examined /var/log/messages for any clues. All I see is the PB 
going to sleep (PMUD entries), and then a restart is the next line. I 
haven't been able to correlate it to any application (for a while I 
thought it was ethereal, but I can't reliably recreate it)

I am running the stock Mandrake 9.1 kernel

[EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# uname -a

Linux pikake.hoomaha.net 2.4.21-0.13mdk #1 Wed Mar 19 02:24:56 EST 2003 ppc unknown unknown GNU/Linux

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Craig...







Re: Boot Problems on Powerbook G4

2003-06-27 Thread Isaac
On Friday 27 June 2003 07:57 am, John G. Cole wrote:
 I don't know what init= option to pass to the kernel -- by the way at
 the top of the screen (above the logo) the kernel is listed as Linux
 2.4.21-0.13mdk  -- is it possible that the benh kernel was not installed
 somehow?

hi, i'm not sure what kernel opts you need, but the 9.1 text install does not 
apply any custom package selections you make. so the benh kernel was not 
installed even though you installed using it.

the trick is going to be to somehow get it installed, but i'll defer to the 
more expert experts on that one. Stew?

 Any help would be appreciated




Re: Boot Problems on Powerbook G4

2003-06-27 Thread Stew Benedict

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, John G. Cole wrote:

 I could not get Mandrake 9.1 PPC to install on my 12 Powerbook G4 
 (NVIDIA GeForce4) using any of the gui setups.  When I went to 
 install-text the installation failed with a keyboard ioctl error (early 
 in the installation).  When I installed with install-gui-benh text the 
 installation seemed to go fine. (Allocated all remaining free space in 
 the installation ~ 15G)
 
 When I choose linux on the bootloader and boot linux the boot fails with 
 errors starting with
 
 mount: error 6 mounting ext3 flags (null)
 well, retrying read-only without any flag
 mount: error 6 mounting ext3
 pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot,/sysroot/initrd) failed: 2
 Remounting devfs at correct place if necessary
 Mounted devfs on /dev
 Freeing unused kernel memory: 160k init 4k chrp 8k prep
 Kernel panic: No init found.  Try passing init= option to kernel
 

/ isn't getting mounted, although it looks like the initrd loaded

 I don't know what init= option to pass to the kernel -- by the way at 
 the top of the screen (above the logo) the kernel is listed as Linux 
 2.4.21-0.13mdk  -- is it possible that the benh kernel was not installed 
 somehow?
 

Quite possible.  It doesn't install automatically, and in text mode, even 
if you explicitily select a package, it doesn't install.  If you check the 
list archives, there are various workarounds.  If I understand the 
situation correctly, rescue won't work either, as the Mandrake kernel 
doesn't see the hard drive.

Archives:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcr=1w=2

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Re: Frozen G3 PB up wake up

2003-06-27 Thread danny
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I am hoping someone has some info on what I am seeing on my G3 PB 
 (Pismo). Occationally (say once every 50 sleep/wake-up cycles) the PB 
 freezes upon wake up. Here's what I observe:
 
 * PB goes to sleep normally up closing the lid (or appears to)
 * Lifting the lid initiates wake-up,
   o The screen appears
   o The backlight comes on
   o The hard drive spins up
 * However the computer is frozen, no mouse, no activity on the
   screen, the PB will not return pings from another computer
 
 I have examined /var/log/messages for any clues. All I see is the PB 
 going to sleep (PMUD entries), and then a restart is the next line. I 
 haven't been able to correlate it to any application (for a while I 
 thought it was ethereal, but I can't reliably recreate it)
 
 I am running the stock Mandrake 9.1 kernel
^^ this could be part of the problem.

But it can also be that apm emulation is not loaded. You have to load a 
module, i forget the name, apm something. Check if /var/log/XFree.0.log 
complains about apm not being found. If so, put that module in 
/etc/modules so it gets loaded at boot.

For me apm emulation was not sufficient to get it working perfectly with
mdk kernel, also the benh kernel in 9.1 was not good enough, it worked
reliable using a newer benh kernel and vide=radeonfb in yaboot.conf.
2.4.20-benh10 is on the club site in testing (including some mdk patches
like supermount).  Planning to put 2.4.21-benh1 in cooker contrib soon
(I'm finishing up lowlatency kernel for i586 first).


d.





Re: Frozen G3 PB up wake up - apm_emu now loaded

2003-06-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

Hi All,

I am hoping someone has some info on what I am seeing on my G3 PB 
(Pismo). Occationally (say once every 50 sleep/wake-up cycles) the PB 
freezes upon wake up. Here's what I observe:

   * PB goes to sleep normally up closing the lid (or appears to)
   * Lifting the lid initiates wake-up,
 o The screen appears
 o The backlight comes on
 o The hard drive spins up
   * However the computer is frozen, no mouse, no activity on the
 screen, the PB will not return pings from another computer
I have examined /var/log/messages for any clues. All I see is the PB 
going to sleep (PMUD entries), and then a restart is the next line. I 
haven't been able to correlate it to any application (for a while I 
thought it was ethereal, but I can't reliably recreate it)

I am running the stock Mandrake 9.1 kernel
   

^^ this could be part of the problem.

But it can also be that apm emulation is not loaded. You have to load a 
module, i forget the name, apm something. Check if /var/log/XFree.0.log 
complains about apm not being found. If so, put that module in 
/etc/modules so it gets loaded at boot.

For me apm emulation was not sufficient to get it working perfectly with
mdk kernel, also the benh kernel in 9.1 was not good enough, it worked
reliable using a newer benh kernel and vide=radeonfb in yaboot.conf.
2.4.20-benh10 is on the club site in testing (including some mdk patches
like supermount).  Planning to put 2.4.21-benh1 in cooker contrib soon
(I'm finishing up lowlatency kernel for i586 first).
d.
 

Danny,

I did find that the apm_emu wasn't loading (and XFree.0.log was 
reporting it). I have loaded the module, restarted X, and now I get a 
nice message (in the XFree.0.log) that Open APM sucessful.

I do see a change on the screen at wake up now, where the screen looks 
like it is way zoomed in (pixelated) and black and white, but after X 
does its refresh upon waking up, my screen is back to normal. I assume 
this is part of the APM emulation thing.

I don't know if this will fix it (hopefully it will). I'll run this way 
and see if I don't get any more freezes.

Thanks for the help,

Craig...





Re: Frozen G3 PB up wake up

2003-06-27 Thread Ben Reser
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 09:06:24AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am hoping someone has some info on what I am seeing on my G3 PB 
 (Pismo). Occationally (say once every 50 sleep/wake-up cycles) the PB 
 freezes upon wake up. Here's what I observe:
 
* PB goes to sleep normally up closing the lid (or appears to)
* Lifting the lid initiates wake-up,
  o The screen appears
  o The backlight comes on
  o The hard drive spins up
* However the computer is frozen, no mouse, no activity on the
  screen, the PB will not return pings from another computer
 
 I have examined /var/log/messages for any clues. All I see is the PB 
 going to sleep (PMUD entries), and then a restart is the next line. I 
 haven't been able to correlate it to any application (for a while I 
 thought it was ethereal, but I can't reliably recreate it)

In the past things like this have been bugs in the XFree86 code.  If you
switch to a VT before putting the PB to sleep and then switch back to X
after and it works then it is a XFree86 bug.

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