[Cooker] [OT] Mandrake rules OfB poll
Just so you all know that you're doing a Good Thing here in the cooker, the Open for Business website poll has attracted over 750 votes, and nearly a quarter of them side with Mandrake http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=Surveys&op=results&pollID=53 -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] Compiling kernels with latest gcc
While we're on the topic of cooker kernels, why _do_ we set the kernel versions switch to ON? The tux.org kernel docs recommend off. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] Compiling kernels with older gcc also broken
>>>>> "G" == Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: G> cs46xx.c:950: error: long, short, signed or unsigned used G> invalidly for `off' cs46xx.c:951: error: long, short, signed or G> unsigned used invalidly for `val' Since the cooker archives contain no match for "cs64xx.c u32" it seems likely the fix is not yet recorded. The fix is to replace "u32 long" with "u32" on lines 950 and 951. [ How the heck could you have a u32 _long_?? 32 bits is 32 bits no matter how you look at it. ] -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] Compiling kernels with latest gcc
>>>>> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> http://www.google.com/search?&q=mandrake%20cooker%20gcc-3.3.1%20kernel You will get far less noise with a site-focussed search query of site:archives.mandrakelinux.com gcc-3.3.1 kernel but that query won't explain the cs46xx.c bug ;) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] Compiling kernels with older gcc also broken
>>>>> "D" == Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: D> Really does any kernel work with 3.3.1? I thought kernel compiling was the whole reason we still ship gcc-2.96 ... although I think other distros call it the "kernel-gcc" or somesuch. There is also no mention in either the /usr/share/doc/kernel-sources or the gcc-2.96 rpm documents to say we /must/ compile the kernel using gcc2 Not that it matters: gcc2 doesn't make it past cs46xx.c either :( cs46xx.c:950: error: long, short, signed or unsigned used invalidly for `off' cs46xx.c:951: error: long, short, signed or unsigned used invalidly for `val' so basically, even if you just need to add some 3rd-party source module to 9.1+, you're screwed. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] installation and errata
>>>>> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> Maybe the syslinux boot screen should tell the user to read the B> docs if anything goes wrong? Or is it wrong to expect a user to B> read instructions nowadays? It's likely sufficient to mention where the docs are located and would be good ettiquette to note which of the core install docs have changed since the previous release. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
[Cooker] gcc-3.3.1-0.3 still fails to compile linux-2.4.21-0.18
It was reported as a bug with the earlier gcc-3.1 and it's still there in 3.3.1: Compiling the 2.4.21-0.18 kernel is still failing for me on include/linux/sched.h:6: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype the workaround is to remove the ftape-compress module; I also had to remove the ambassador ATM module, but this only gets as far as a failure in adi.c include/asm/delay.h:13:13: invalid suffix "d6bd0" on floating constant these errors all share in common "extern unsigned long" declarations so somewhere long is being defined as a value, and the closest match I can find is include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:#define __ver___udelay \ _ver_str(9e7d6bd0) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: dealing with bug reports from stable releases (was Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?)
>>>>> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> Maybe now I can go back to spending my limited time fixing B> *real* bugs in samba? I suppose -- people /still/ use Windows? Amazing ;) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?
>>>>> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> That's why we have snapshots, betas, and pre-releases. So you're saying once it's cut, it's perfect? That's a bit much to believe. Let's just agree to disagree: I want Mandrake's distros to be maximally consistent and bug-free, and that means addressing overlooked bugs just as much as the one's a few dozen people might find. IBM reports that they find two orders of magnitude more bugs in an OS release within 30 days of a public release than in the /entire/ development QA period. That observation doesn't really fit your snapshot/beta/pre model. B> But it could also mean it was fixed upstream before 6.1 was B> released, and it may take too much effort for someone else to B> replicate the problem, only to discover it is fixed. No one says it has to be checked. If only one person reports it, the maintainer might keep an eye on the situation, if two people report it, it's almost certainly at least a documentation bug. Every bug report is an opportunity, but we're volunteers here, we are under no obligation to open the door -- but I don't think we should shoo them away. B> There is an issue with drakboot automatically setting ACPI on B> *after* installation, if the user doesn't watch closely. I am B> not sure if this is fixed in cooker .. Ah ... so it _is_ a cooker question after all :) B> And the current determination is that it was not a bug. Didn't you contradict that determination one paragraph back when you asked me to file a bug report if the problem known to be in the cooker is still there? B> No, the correct answer is "don't use binary rpms from cooker on B> a stable release". Doing so is asking for trouble. Don't agree. If I agreed, I'd use RH -- cooker is /transparent/ technology, it just has to be repeated (and has been repeated) that "if you mix your versions, you take your chances" But it's still good testing -- we've caught many RPMs where the dependency message was to the exact lib instead of the actual package, so when people come in asking for the lib by name, we know the RPM had a bug. B> It may work just after a stable release, but if it doesn't B> work, please don't waste the maintainers time filing a bug B> report, until you have either rebuilt the source package, or B> tried full cooker. You you don't want anyone but experienced developers debugging the distro? Ok ... -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?
>>>>> "A" == Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: A> Well, you've reported two essentially invalid bugs, which isn't A> helping anyone much :) You'd be surprised -- I get technical questions solved all the time by finding false positives. Diskspace for archives is cheap, especially compared to the alternative (long OT discussions like this ;) Second to "not a bug" answers, the next-best good sign of a non-bug is "question is posted, but never answered" which implies only one person found the trouble, thus likely a cruft conflict solveable by a re-install or delete of something. A> Associating prism2 cards with orinoco_cs by default is correct A> behaviour given the qualities of orinoco_cs vs. wlan-ng, and A> besides, merely comes from the stock pcmcia-cs config file. -- Which, again, is good to have in the archives for future reference. Mailing lists like cooker are not transient things, they accummulate a searchable knowledge base, so it's to our advantage to have every possible variation of every question asked to trap the queries that come through the search engine. My opinion of course, but having been here in the cooker for 500+ messages a day since Mdk 6.0, in all that volume, I've never once seen a stupid question that shouldn't have been asked. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] split lists?
>>>>> "w" == warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: w> - I agree that some people have various interests and are not w> interested in such or such topics. They can always filter on the [topic] strings to downgrade messages they don't want to see. As for the bandwidth issue, if you ask me, I'd say someone on 56k dialup who's participating in a project which requires the routine download of 2.5Gb of ISO images probably knows how to manage their bandwidth ;) w> - I agree that multiple list will favor crosspost of people not w> knowing where to ask. It's always a fuzzy question with free software: Is the product broken, or am I just misunderstanding something? This is especially true for something as leading-edge addicted as Mandrake ;) -- every new release contains revolutionary components (eg zeroconf) that are not expected and not well documented online (ie, unknown to google) so there's going to be confusion, even from old unix-hacks (like me) who just missed the discussion. But _we_ are supposed to be the experts: If we invite messages into the cooker and someone posts an obvious installation/configuration issue or an issue more appropriate to another list, maybe what we need is a process to forward the message from here in the kitchen to where-ever. I'm not at all sure how that could work without twenty of us forwarding the same email to the KDE team or whatever here's a really crazy idea; maybe teams could appoint someone as their cooker-watcher (keeping in mind that Watts' pots never Boyle'd) and we parallel-distributed watchers could adopt a convention that when you see a message belonging elsewhere, to post an empty followup with the target group name as a [topic] in the subject line, for example, if we see a message Subject: Re: [Cooker] split lists? the cooker community can 'vote' it elsewhere by followups editing the subject line (remember that the References: header keeps messages threaded if your email software is suitably intelligent ;) so most readers would create a thread that looked like Subject: Re: [Cooker] split lists? Subject: [cooker.list.admin] Subject: [cooker.kde] If you see someone has already 'tagged' an issue, you don't bother, so we don't get long lists of "this belongs elsewhere" messages. Using their normal email filtering, people interested in those taxonomy terms would immediately see the empty followup, so all they have to do is fetch the messages above that point in the thread. of course, this would be _much_ easier if the cooker was a newsgroup :) w> I think that the bugs comments are part of the general w> discussion on the developement, and should be considered as w> equivalent to cooker thread. Totally agreed. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?
>>>>> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> FYI, my Thinkpad 600X runs either acpi or apm just fine on B> 2.4.21.0.13mdk (sorry, can't give definitive answers for other B> kernels, as I have so many installed on it now for other B> reasons). Good -- that's what I needed to know ;) B> Of course it is all valid, but the points you are missing out B> are: 1)What relevance is a bug in the previous ditro to the B> next one if it's already fixed in cooker? ah, yes, but, that assumes it _is_ 'fixed' in the cooker. If we only depend on cooker-members to test the cooker, we're doomed, we've reduced our quality control to the same inadequate model used by proprietary software and we will fail to find most bugs. This gets back to Warly's comments about the bug-reports --- even if it's a bug being reported on 6.0 ... if we've been overlooking it for a dozen releases, that doesn't mean we shouldn't fix it, it means that someone finally found it. B> 2)Cooker can't support people running a mix of a stable release B> and cooker True; my question was if an option was off (which it could because it's an old technology) and you confirmed by your experience that it is not. _Now_ it becomes an installation issue ;) B> ... If you are absolutely sure (ie it's a config file, and you B> have checked Mandrake's latest package in cvs) it's still B> applicable in cooker, then file a bug in bugzilla. I disagree; that model always leads to such bug-bloat, no one ever goes in because they have to wade through so much garbage. If someone reports an issue, our first responsibility is to ensure it's not a design problem with the cooker we'd just released as "stable"; if someone can confirm that it's not a flaw, then it becomes an install issue, an issue of educating the customer in how to properly configure an otherwise essentially correct distribution component. If these (volunteer) "customer service reps" cannot resolve the issue _then_ it's a bug and needs to be logged so it's not forgotten. if you reverse that process, dump everything in the bug-jar by default, the bug-jar becomes so muddied, you might as well be working on Mozilla ;) B> Sorry, but it's just too difficult to debug cross-release B> stuff, for instance there was someone who complained that B> libsmbclient packages were wrong (since it wanted him to B> install samba-common-2.2.7a-8mdk and uninstall B> libsmbclient0). But 2.2.7a-8mdk *is* only in 9.1, and in 9.1 B> there *is* no libsmbclient package. Having to track this down B> only to find what the user has done is simply a waste of time Disagree with you there -- in this case, the proper customer education is not to throw their report away, but to have told them when they downloaded cooker RPMs that there may be problems; it is extremely useful for many people to have the option to pick from the cooker, I have clients who only use Mandrake because the cooker saved their skin _but_ as you point out, _our_ response to missing packages is so cryptic, it confuses those who have not been following the discussions. What the pre-install scripts of the samba-common needed to do was to _tell_ them what it "wanted" (fyi, Dykstra would fail anyone who used anthropomorphisms about computers such as "feeding" a computer data) The error was not with the user, but with the package, so his reporting the glitch to the cooker is a Good Thing -- you're under no obligation to help him, but as you illustrate above, the /story/ of the situation is generally instructive and belongs in the archives. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] PCMCIA Linksys WPC11 should be a prism2_cs
>>>>> "A" == Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: A> prism2_cs and orinoco_cs are essentially competitors The docs say they apply to different chipsets. Orinoco describes itself as a driver for the hermes chipset, prism2_cs is for Intersil Prism2. I have no idea what that means (maybe Hermes _is_ Prism2?) but I do know that these wireless modules have been in the cooker since at least 8.0 and they have never worked with my Prism2 linksys cards. According to the google results, the orinoco_cs module crashes everyone else's machines too -- mine locks so hard I have to remove the battery to reboot. A> - they support the same cards. I think we favour putting A> orinoco_cs as the default, as it complies with the kernel A> wireless standards, whereas linux-wlan-ng doesn't. Curious and interesting -- again, the google usenet search results end in replies recommending "remove the Mandrake modules and install linux-wlan-ng from the sources" ... which is not really an option for many enterprise and non-technical users. If anyone /has/ successfully run the orinoco_cs drivers on a Prism2.5 card, we should get them to post a testimony somewhere to balance out google's picture ;) -- it's certainly never worked for me. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?
>>>>> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: >> I'm hoping I missed something, but the apm-tools (apmd) tell me >> the 9.1 distro kernel B> Of course, this is the wrong list for this question ... Even if we're building cooker with options incompatible with laptops? Maybe I'm mistaken. I thought the purpose of cooker was to ensure a consistent and robust distribution through massively parallel debugging under wide user circumstances -- unless there's good reason to believe this subsystem has changed, aren't the lessons of installing the just-prior release in unusual circumstance suitable topics for discussion? For example, does the cooker list not care if the pcmcia_cs *.conf files mistakenly assign prism2 wireless cards to hermes chipsets or that the prism2_cs module, according to Google search results on "mandrake prism2_cs" has _never_ been successfully configured? If you ask me, we'll never get a distro 'perfect', but it still makes us look bad if we include dysfunctional parts Maybe no one can do anything about it (esp the prism2 issue), but if it's mentioned in the cooker, then at least the next random user who slams into the bug and asks Google, maybe they will find the cooker alert and realize it's an 'issue' -- 99% of the issues we see here every day never make it into the official 'errata' ;) Is it inappropriate to the future release to ensure we distribute packages compatible with the kernel we're including? In my case here, if APM _is_ disabled in the kernel, that's ok, but then the apmd kit being shipped with the cooker should be dropped because it's incompatible: If people can recompile their own kernel to gain APM support, you can be pretty certain they know how to download the apmd software; if APM _is_ included in the kernel, then maybe this issue points to an essential incompatibility with the kernel settings. The thing is, unless someone reports it, how will we know? Just my opinion of course ;) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] auto-login paints me into an IceWM corner
The fix is to hand-edit ~/.desktop to set the desk to GNOME, but I think it's still a bug if people can't do this through the normal admin tools. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] PCMCIA Linksys WPC11 should be a prism2_cs
Even with the change to set that signature to prism2_cs and adding alias wlan0 prism2_cs to /etc/modules.conf, the prism2_cs module will load, but stays inactive and does not create the wlan0 interface. Also, swapping the card out and re-inserting it does not trigger cardmgr to re-load. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
[Cooker] auto-login paints me into an IceWM corner
I selected autologin (since it's a personal laptop) and I selected IceWM, but this seems to have painted me into a corner -- DrakConf lets me select autologin to Gnome, but the configuration change has no effect, autologin still goes into IceWM. A possible oversight in the config? How do I switch back to Gnome? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
[Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?
I'm hoping I missed something, but the apm-tools (apmd) tell me the 9.1 distro kernel does not include APM support -- is this correct? If so, does it mean I _must_ build a custom kernel for a laptop? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
[Cooker] PCMCIA Linksys WPC11 should be a prism2_cs
I've embarked on the adventure of 9.1 replacing 8.2 on my laptop and one of the first problems is in the pcmcia *.conf files where the Linksys WPC11 is assigned (by config) to orinoco_cs -- shouldn't it be assigned to the prism2_cs? The extra wlan-ng.conf file from the linux-wlan project lists this card as .. card "Linksys WPC11 11Mbps 802.11b WLAN Card" version "Instant Wireless ", " Network PC CARD", "Version 01.02" bind "prism2_cs" -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] PHP config error in Mandrake 9.1 RPM?
>>>>> "J" == Jean-Michel Dault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
J> Otherwise, as far as I can tell, this code has a problem. Try:
J> $nid=1;
J> $cache[$nid]= 0;
J> if (empty($cache[$nid]))
J>{ echo "Is Empty!"; }
J> You will see that a value of 0 means empty. That's
J> known behavior of this function.
ACK! That's exactly right :] -- Thanks for pointing it out, because
you're right on: in the zero-comments case, which is the most common,
the 'empty' fails to provide caching. The people who had tested the
code for me must have had comments in all their front page stories.
I'll bet the intended code was
if (defined(cache[$nid])) ...
this is how many eyes make all bugs shallow.
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Re: [Cooker] still (Re: Fatal crash of X server with i810)
>>>>> "G" == Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: G> I have switched to the xfree86 binary release for the server G> and re-enabled DRI for comparison. Now half-way through the second day and /still/ stable -- this is using the same XFConfig-4 file as was crashing under Mandrake 9.1; the mandrake version never lasted more than 14 hours between crashes so it looks promising that there's some subtle problem which has been introduced into the Mandrake Xserver i810 support. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
[Cooker] still (Re: Fatal crash of X server with i810)
>>>>> "D" == Danny Tholen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: D> On Thursday 03 April 2003 23:19, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: >> >>>>> "G" == Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> G> .. in all 4 cases, I found the following in the syslog just 9 G> seconds before the crash >> G> kernel: [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 65520 wanted 65528 >> D> well, the error seems to come from the i810 drm module. What if D> you disable dri? What if you disable drm? I disabled dri, and the problem remained, same failure, same point only this time, there is no drm errors just before, it ends with Apr 4 20:20:08 maya gconfd (garym-22186): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly Apr 4 20:20:10 maya gconfd (garym-22186): Exiting I have switched to the xfree86 binary release for the server and re-enabled DRI for comparison. Could the problem be in the Mandrake Linux kernel? That drm message /is/ a kernel message ... -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] Re: Fatal crash of X server with i810
>>>>> "D" == Danny Tholen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: G> kernel: [drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 65520 wanted 65528 D> well, the error seems to come from the i810 drm module. What if D> you disable dri? What if you disable drm? Curiously, the "Load 'dri'" line was _missing_ but it did exist in the config of the other machine (which is being more stable) so I've just /added/ it to my own, and added the missing Section "DRI" Unfortunately, these crashes are about 10-12 hours apart so it takes about a day to find out if the most recent fix did anything :( I also notice that the current glibc 2.3 binary at xfree86.org is a different size from the mandrake release, so if I have another crash, my next guess will be to swap in the official xfree86 release. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
[Cooker] core dump back trace for XFree86 4.3.0 crash on Mandrake 9.1
Hmmm ... seems like gdm was set to save core files all along: found the lot of them in /var/lib/gdm. Now ... is it possible to determine where the X server is failing from these core files? The bt on the latest reads as follows: Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted. #0 0x4008f481 in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0x4008f481 in ?? () #1 0x4009076b in ?? () #2 0x0806e42e in ?? () #3 0x080e358f in ?? () #4 0x08083709 in ?? () #5 0x4008f3b8 in ?? () #6 0x080d3b01 in ?? () #7 0x080d273e in ?? () #8 0x080d3848 in ?? () #9 0x080b837f in ?? () #10 0x080b8112 in ?? () #11 0x080cab70 in ?? () #12 0x4007c7f7 in ?? () probably not much use, but just in case :( the previous was the same last 5 steps (the exit code?) but began from a different location: #6 0x080cd13b in ?? () #7 0x080be4ef in ?? () #8 0x080be65c in ?? () #9 0x080b80a6 in ?? () #10 0x080cab70 in ?? () #11 0x4007c7f7 in ?? () -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
[Cooker] How to enable X debug modes?
There's an option in the gdm.conf file to turn on debugging, but it doesn't appear to have done anything. I also found several places where I see what seems to be the Xserver command options, but adding -core to all of these didn't put -core on the command line when I do a "ps ax" ... How do I enable debug tracing of XFree86 in the Mandrake 9.1? I also get a /lot/ of GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 108000 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1152 hbeg: 1216 hend: 1344 httl: 1600 vdsp: 864 vbeg: 865 vend: 868 vttl: 900 flags: 5 Why? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
[Cooker] Re: crash of X server with Mandrake 9.1 upgrade
The advice from XFree86 to avoid the xfs unix:/ flag and OpenGL have not solved the problem. This is like playing Russian Roulette with your work, very annoying. Again, this is producing no diagnostics except the following log messages: Apr 2 10:00:17 maya gconfd (garym-28434): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly Apr 2 10:00:17 maya gconfd (garym-28434): Exiting Apr 2 10:00:17 maya gdm[28245]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
[Cooker] [Mark Vojkovich ] Re: [XFree86] Fatal crash of X server with Mandrake 9.1 upgrade
this may be a Mandrake 9.1 issue; I wasn't using any OpenGL software at the time, I was using only Mozilla, XEmacs, and Gabber and Gnome-terminal. --- Begin Message --- I don't know much about the i810 driver, but the server appears to have sefaulted. Also, the output from the vidmode extension implies that you were either running a game that used it (like Quake) or running xscreensaver, so the crash may have been related to OpenGL or the modeswitches they cause. That's the only input I have. Mark. On 1 Apr 2003, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > > Any ideas how I can gather more diagnostics on this? It's on a > Dell L700cxe that had been running an up-to-date Mandrake 9.0, but > moments ago threw me out with > > maya gdm[1196]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 > > --- End Message --- -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] [mozilla] Can't select search popup on location input
I have a related focus issue: Under Gnome 2.2, we are unable to use the drop-down search menu item when entering in a URL in the location window -- normally, if you enter a query in the location window, a button drops down below it to initiate the google search, and the button is there, but it will not accept a mouse click. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
[Cooker] Fatal crash of X server with Mandrake 9.1 upgrade
Any ideas how I can gather more diagnostics on this? It's on a Dell L700cxe that had been running an up-to-date Mandrake 9.0, but moments ago threw me out with maya gdm[1196]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 XFree86.0.log.crash.gz Description: X Server Log -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
Re: [Cooker] Bamboo fails to update Dolphin: Failure in swap.pm
mkswap on the errant partition solves the problem --- how she lasted so long with a corrupt swap partition is beyond me, but what this does show is that the install program perhaps needs an exit strategy when the given swap partition turns up invalid. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
[Cooker] Bamboo fails to update Dolphin: Failure in swap.pm
Everything went well until it tried to mount the disks for an update: this is on a Dell Dimension cx700 Failure in line 130 of the perl-install/swap.pm file, cannot mount swap and it won't go past this error. The error consoles say unable to mount swapon(/dev/hda2) and F4 says "unable to find swapspace signature". I'm going to re mkswap that partition and try again ... -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] updated the OCN download for RC2
Just a heads up for those who fetch their ISO's using the Open Content Network: I've updated http://www.teledyn.com/ocn.php with links to the ISO images for RC2 -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 over the Open Content Network
Sorry I was late off the mark on this -- you went and released beta-3 during the Groundhog Day timeframe when I'm distracted! Anyway, here goes again, this time for sure: I've updated my OCN download page to point to the three ISO images for the Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 disks. To join the OCN, all you need is Java 1.4.1 (with Java Webstart) once you have your disk images, please leave your browser online and running -- your bandwidth will assist others in fetching the disks. With Beta 2, I cut the 9 hour download of disk one down to just over 6 hours for disk two. It's worth the bother of downloading Java to do it and besides, you should go grab Java if only to stick to to MS ;) http://www.teledyn.com/ocn.php If you already have the ISOs but still want to try it out, we've put a couple of Ogg files up there too (or you might want to listen to those while you download the ISOs) Enjoy -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] Kernel SCSI errors writing audio CD?
Would the recent kernel patches explain the following errors that I get when trying to create an audio CD from a list of wav files? Using xcdroast, the first track writes and the CD gets a table of contents, but then the process just stalls, and if you attempt to play the resulting CD, it hangs the system :( I've attached 3 example cdrecord logs, using two different fresh media from two different manufacturers, and using TAO mode... cdrecord.out Description: CDRecord log cdrecord2.out Description: CDRecord log cdrecord3.out Description: CDRecord log -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advantage through Community Software - http://teledyn.com "what I need is a job that doesn't interfere with my work" -gary murphy
[Cooker] Re: ["pam jacpbs" ]
>>>>> "p" == Pam Jacobs writes: p> gary I have pictures on a disc (not cd) I would like to send p> them to my sister. how do I do this? A very good question ... because (a) it's not obvious and (b) it's one of the things that Mandrake broke with 9.0. I had to turn the "Supermount" feature off on your machine because it was causing lock-ups, and until there's a replacement, you're left with doing the mount/unmount manually. IIRC what _should_ happen is when you put the disc into the drive, an icon for it appears on your desktop screen. Since this is broken, you have to open a terminal window and enter "mount /mnt/floppy" and now your disc is just like any other file folder, except that it is based at /mnt/floppy instead of /home/pam. Before you _remove_ the floppy, you _must_ do "unmount /mnt/floppy" or very bad things can happen. So that gets the machine able to read the floppy disk. What happens after _that_ I don't really know. I've copied your email to the Mandrake developers because it's probably something someone is already thinking about, or at least they should. I'd like to say "you drag it from the Nautilus window to the Mozilla email window, Mozilla will not accept this. I just tried opening the Mozilla mail composer and dragging an image over, but it does nothing. I opened the Mozilla "attach" screen and I could drag a Nautilus image over to it, but it ended up with the absurd (and invalid) location of /home/garym/file:///home/garym/archive/photos/Kodak/2002-12-05/2002 (probably would work if you corrected the URL to remove the 'file://') probably what you're left with is to open the Mozilla mail compose window, select attach, in the "Look in:" selections roll it all the way to "/", and then pick your way through to the /mnt and then /mnt/floppy and then to the file you want. There may be a better way, but this one will work. You can still contact May or myself when you run into annoying stuff like this, but you might want to also search on the Mandrake Users site at http://www.mandrakeuser.org/ just in case it's a common problem; also, when you post your question there, someone answering you will also be helping other newcomers who go to mandrakeuser and search for their own questions. Open source works best when we all, even the newcomers, work together to help out each other :) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] Mdk 9.0, ppp and the modem-lights scripts?
Ran into some issues with the Mandrake 9.0 configuring it for a dialup account. This is on a fresh install (not an upgrade). The gnome modem-lights applet (which is a really handy way to control manual or on-demand dialup connections) is preset to switch the ppp on and off using two scripts pppon and pppoff ... do these scripts exist anywhere? IMHO, Mandrake should standardize on diald as the preferred dial-up method as it's far more frugal than plain pppd on-demand mode and a breeze to set up. Also on the topic of using dialup and ppp, the installation process leads to a form to enter your dialup connection, but there is no way to actually /use/ that connection (this is for someone else's machine) The means to connect given in the menus (twice) leads to gnome-ppp where you must enter all the connection information in again. How should we use the sysconfig/network-scripts/drakconnect_conf information? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
SOLVED Re: [Cooker] Correct fix for gnome-ppp permission problem?
AHA: gnome-ppp accout/PPP add default route is not checked by default. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] Correct fix for gnome-ppp permission problem?
next problem: gnome-ppp sets the ifconfig for ppp0 but the default route is not added to the new interface! Any ideas what's wrong? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] Correct fix for gnome-ppp permission problem?
I tried to post the file, but a message came back that it was being held in quarantine because of the virus inside the tarball :( If someone wants to look at it, let me know and I'll send it direct. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] Correct fix for gnome-ppp permission problem?
>>>>> "G" == Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: G> A partial fix for this issue: My wife went over to see if she G> could suid or whatever to fix it, and we discovered that the G> fresh install of Mandrake 9.0 had omitted ppp! G> Someone needs to check the RPMs: If Gnome-ppp is installed, G> does it make any sense to put it on the menu but then /not/ to G> install ppp? It gets worse: using rpmdrake to install pppd, it still failed because the modem is not configured. We quickly discovered they hadn't installed linuxconf, so modemconf was not installed, but after installing modemconf and running it to config the modem, the modem was set correctly on ttyS0 (tts/0) but with read-only permissions. manually fixed the permissions on tts/0, still could not connect with gnome-ppp --- manually created a pap-secrets file and we could then connect, but it would not use the DNS servers listed in the gnome-ppp account record! That's where we sit now; I'm sending someone over there to do some detail debugging, but it's not a good advertisement for Linux when it requires a house-call from networking tech just to connect to an ISP ;) I know they had installed without including the network tools, probably just as a bare workstation, so what /should/ we have done to migrate the bare install to a dialup-networking station? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] Correct fix for gnome-ppp permission problem?
A partial fix for this issue: My wife went over to see if she could suid or whatever to fix it, and we discovered that the fresh install of Mandrake 9.0 had omitted ppp! Someone needs to check the RPMs: If Gnome-ppp is installed, does it make any sense to put it on the menu but then /not/ to install ppp? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] Correct fix for gnome-ppp permission problem?
Just had a call from a neighbour who bought Mandrake 9.0; the good news is that they got it installed ok, but on trying to connect to the internet, they selected the menu item for PPP (Gnome desktop) and were greeted with the message saying they did not have permission to connect. This is probably because pppd is not suid, so one potential fix is to guide them through su and setting that one file, but is this the recommended fix? At the very least, this requiring a su intervention seems a bug in Mdk 9.0. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
solved (Re: [Cooker] SMB Printer is skewed)
Turned out /etc/alternatives items for lp* were still pointing to lp*-lpd instead of the lp*-cups versions; manually fixing that and restarting cups and smb fixed the problem. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] SMB Printer is skewed
Has anyone seen a situation where smb gives garbage for the name of the printer? This is using the RPMs directly with cups and smb and doing nothing to the default configuration (which looks fine for my purposes), but what I get with smbclient from any remote machine is $ smbclient -U garym -L kato added interface ip=192.168.70.1 bcast=192.168.70.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 Password: Domain=[MDKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 2.2.1a] Sharename Type Comment - --- IPC$ IPC IPC Service (Samba Server 2.2.1a) ADMIN$ Disk IPC Service (Samba Server 2.2.1a) the remote ho Printer - cannot open Printer allPrinter I can't find reference to "the remote ho" in any Samba docs. The relevement smb.conf lines appear to be correctly setting the printer as a cups system, and I can print to that printer using the cups service from a remote linux machine. What's missing in the smb config? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] Compact Flash USB 1.0 Reader (Datafab) probs - ANyone?
All I can say is that switching to the tux.org kernel worked for me. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.19-17 is definitely broken
>>>>> "I" == Ian Mcleod writes: I> uuurrrggghhh I am yet to successfully compile anything let I> alone a kernel.. I have been using Linux for years and I still I> don't understand this really basic stuff.. Quite shameful I I> know.. Not at all: Compiling the kernel is not for the squeamish -- if you go to kernelbook.sourceforge.net, you can download my old guide for compiling the 2.2 kernel -- for all it's advances, the 2.4 kernel is pretty much the exact same process, only now there are hundreds of options. Basically, if an option doesn't make sense, make it a module ;) There is one very important difference, and others may correct me on this, but here's my brute-force sequence for actually installing a new kernel under Mandrake 9.0: - get the kernel tarball from ftp.tux.org and unpack in /usr/src - symlink linux-2.4.19 to /usr/src/linux - take my .config from that previous message and put it into linux - "make oldconfig" - "make xconfig" and check every form for any obvious errors or omissions, especially for filesystem and network support - "make bzImage modules dep clean" - create a temp dir "mkdir ~/tmpboot" - "INSTALL_PATH=~/tmpboot INSTALL_MODULE_PATH=/lib/modules make bzlilo modules_install" - go have a nice dinner, a bath, watch some TV... - "mv ~/tmpboot/System.map /boot/System.map-2.4.19" - "mv ~/tmpboot/vmlinuz /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19" - run "drakboot" and add the new vmlinux-2.4.19 to the bootloader reboot, and if it's better, go back to drakboot and set it as the default kernel; if it's worse, try to figure out from the dmesg listings what was missing or reconfigured and go through it all again. it's less painful than a root canal, and more fun than detention. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.19-17 is definately broken
>>>>> "I" == Ian Mcleod writes: I> I am using the stock standard Mandrake 9.0 kernel - I have lost I> XMMS sound (could be unrelated though) - are we advised to I> upgarde our kernel? I tried to upgrade, but it didn't help. I had to use the tux.org kernel. I> BTW - when will the wlan-ng (as opposed to wlan_cs) wireless I> kernel drivers be included by default? Good point. There again, I go fetch the sources, and since building them requires you to build your kernel as well (and build pcmcia from new sources) you might as well do it all in one tedious batch. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] kernel-2.4.19-17 is definately broken
Just to confirm what someone else posted, using the stock tux.org kernel has corrected our problems with mpg123, ogg123 and xmms dropping files mid-song; we can now run /multiple/ OpenOffice documents and mozilla at the same time in 256M, and the whole system just seems a lot faster. I haven't tested exhaustively (I need to fill the flash with some images ;) but with a few images, the flash-card USB problem is also solved. All in all, it appears that for our Dell L700CXE computers, the kernel shipped with 9.0 and the #17mdk update contain VM-poison. If it helps debug this, I am appending my .config .config Description: working .config for Mandrake 9.0 -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] GDM Sessions
On the topic of GDM sessions, why can I no longer login on the ALT-Fn consoles? If I do, GDM takes over and restarts throwing me back into console-7 and scraping my previous session. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] I've lost all sound on my system under KDE...
>>>>> "G" == Gary Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: G> The 2.4.19-17mdk kernel IS to blame for the loss of sound. I'm G> currently running the vanilla 2.4.19 from kernel.org and have G> my mp3s playing once again. I'd misunderstood the problem ... and yes, with my on-board sound I get the same behaviour with the Mdk kernel --- oggs and mp3s spontaneously exit. I wonder if the stock kernel is better at USB too ... -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] I've lost all sound on my system under KDE...
>>>>> "G" == Gary Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: G> As the title says, I've lost all so9und under KDE with the new G> kernel. My sound card is a SB AWE64. It was working fine until G> recently. This happened to both our machines with 9.0: We had to run sndconfig and I still have to kill esd when my session starts. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] 9.0 USB lockups with Flash reader
: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 428 Oct 25 21:26:47 maya kernel: SCSI disk error : host 1 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 return code = 7 Oct 25 21:26:47 maya kernel: I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 7751 Oct 25 21:26:47 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 332 Oct 25 21:26:47 maya ntpd[1275]: time reset -0.465056 s Oct 25 21:26:47 maya ntpd[1275]: synchronisation lost Oct 25 21:26:52 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 236 Oct 25 21:26:58 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 148 Oct 25 21:27:04 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 52 Oct 25 21:27:11 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 2012 Oct 25 21:27:17 maya kernel: SCSI disk error : host 1 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 return code = 7 -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] Problems updating kernel
Just to follow this, /boot/initrd-2.4.19-16mdk.img did exist with the symlink to it. After the kernel-2.4.19.17 update, /boot is only half-installed: -rw-r--r--1 root root 512 Apr 13 2001 boot.0300 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 19 Oct 13 20:06 config -> config-2.4.19-16mdk -rw-r--r--1 root root44145 Sep 20 12:52 config-2.4.19-16mdk -rw-r--r--1 root root44512 Oct 24 16:03 config-2.4.19-17mdk drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Sep 6 15:01 grub/ -rw-r--r--1 root root52404 Sep 27 20:42 initrd-2.4.19-16mdk.img lrwxr-xr-x1 root root 23 Sep 28 18:35 initrd.img -> initrd-2.4.19-16mdk.img lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 27 Oct 25 20:24 kernel.h -> /boot/kernel.h-2.4.19-16mdk -rw-r--r--1 root root 441 Sep 27 20:46 kernel.h-2.4.19-16mdk -rw---1 root root 198144 Oct 25 20:23 map lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 15 Oct 11 14:09 message -> message-graphic -rw-r--r--1 root root 147089 Sep 27 20:42 message-graphic -rw-r--r--1 root root 147089 Oct 11 14:09 message-text lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 23 Sep 27 20:44 System.map -> System.map-2.4.19-16mdk -rw-r--r--1 root root 490852 Sep 20 12:52 System.map-2.4.19-16mdk -rw-r--r--1 root root 526408 Oct 24 16:03 System.map-2.4.19-17mdk -rw-r--r--1 root root 256 Sep 6 18:37 us.klt lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Oct 25 20:27 vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.4.19-17mdk -rw-r--r--1 root root 880346 Sep 20 12:52 vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk -rw-r--r--1 root root 956704 Oct 24 16:03 vmlinuz-2.4.19-17mdk dare I fix the symlinks by hand? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] Problems updating kernel
In my quest to use my flash-card reader again, I downloaded the 2.4.19-17 kernel, but doing the upgrade I get the cryptic warning: look like there was a problem, the default vmlinuz version is not the same of the initrd which mean you have a mdk kernel and not a mdk initrd you may go in trouble 1) what does this mean really? 2) how do I fix it? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] A server side webservices script for a cooker mirror
>>>>> "G" == Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: G> Seems interesting, but could you explain a bit more usefulness G> of such a RDF file ? And what advantages over rpmsearch ? Certainly: Convenience. I use RDFs on my desktop to tell me in a flash of all the websites that have updates, and then I can at my leisure decide to go after them. Using rpmsearch, I get more information but I must do a specific call for specific packages and I have to go through the bother of loading the page. G> BTW, i'm more and more intrested in creating an open-source G> project for all this kind of stuff used by different peoples G> (plf, jpackage, mandrake, you) to maintain and manage a RPM G> project. Would you been intested in such a project ? -- Interested? Yes. I can't promise to have a lot of time to put towards it as work is either feast or famine, but I'm sure that's true of everyone ;) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] [UPDATE] webservices script for a cooker mirror
Here's an update: - more RPM metadata - package home URL is in the taxo list - found some packages that had invalid markup in other fields - removed debug flag before generating test example since-rdf.rdf Description: example RDF output since-rdf.cgi Description: since-rdf.cgi version 0.1.1 bugfix release -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] A server side webservices script for a cooker mirror
oops, sorry about the debug info in the top of the sample rdf -- you have to trim everything up to the HTTP headers I'm doing double-duty as the preschoolers caregiver here today, and got a bit distracted (but we built a /great/ zoid in the basement ;) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] A server side webservices script for a cooker mirror
I don't know if anyone is interested in running this, but if you are, I'm so interested in /using/ it that I've written the CGI script to do it: since-rdf.cgi is a simple perl script to generate an RDF file giving the RPM metadata for all packages in a given directory, listing only those packages that have been updated or added since some user-specified cutoff date. This is useful for both cooker RPMs and contribs where I don't want to mirror the whole thing, but I want to know what has been added because I may be eagerly waiting for some critical update or just curious to follow a few packages. The script takes either a GET pathinfo parameter or uses the usual RDF If-Modified-Since/Etag request header method. A simple shell script could just dump the date to a timestamp file when it's done and then call this script with lynx: lynx -source http://host/since-rdf.cgi/`cat .last_access` \ > updates.rdf && date +"%s" > .last_access there's probably even a way to specify the If-Modified-Since header in lynx or wget -- I'm just too lazy to look it up. the output is RDF 1.0 (see attached example), so Amphetadesk users (or peerkat) could generate a local copy of the RDF to be included into their monitor software. since-rdf.rdf Description: example RDF output Anyway, apologies for the bandwidth to those who could care less, and again, if anyone /does/ deploy this, please let me know so I can subscribe ;) since-rdf.cgi Description: since-rdf script -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.teledyn.com/mt/ - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] Why ext3fs is a default fs, not ReiserFS?
>>>>> "B" == Biagio Lucini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> Seriously, you have given a partial view of what ext3 is. There B> are serious reasons to choose it in my view This is a naive question and my first-guess is that it is not possible, but is there any way to 'upgrade' a live file-system to ext3? I have some older machines that could benefit, but it's not worth doing a complete re-install of all software. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] supermount?
>>>>> "L" == Lonnie Borntreger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: L> On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 14:16, Mario Vazquez wrote: >> There is a fix for supermount on cooker mirrors? L> Yes. It's called autofs. Please explain: "Autofs can also be used to manage file systems on removable media, but Anvin considers this to be more "abuse than use," since autofs is not designed for that purpose. http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/expo/lw-wednesday-autofs.html -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] Gnome2 permanent lock-out (again)
Now it's happened on our second 9.0 machine: The session was exited for a reboot, but on coming back up, if you login, you get the big Gnome footprint, but no status messages appear on the bottom and it is /hung/. there are no messages in .xsession-errors, XFree86.log or syslog /nothing/ has been changed on this machine since the last successful login, no new hardware, no new software, no configuration changes. there is one quirk: The machine needed to be rebooted because msec's hourly process was hung and chewing up CPU cycles; kill -9 would not kill it, so I advised a reboot. using a different account on the same machine can login to a Gnome desktop without incident. a login under this account but using sawfish will login without incident (that's what they are using until I find a fix) I had /thought/ that I'd fixed this situation on my own machine by clearing out the .gconf .gconfd .gnome and .gnome2 directories but this has /no/ effect on this second machine, the login hangs at the same place. any guesses are /greatly/ appreciated. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] 9.0: Garbled text in gnome
The attached window show shows the effect: every time I scroll up, the line at the bottom of the window gets garbled; this /seems/ to happen only in mozilla, but it could just be that I use mozilla most often (it never happens in XEmacs) moz1.png Description: font garbling in mozilla -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0RC1 Xscreensaver cannot load images
Ok, confirmed --- this one works on all my screen resolutions. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] supermount and usb-uhci
Could this supermount error be related to the problems I am having with supermount and the usb-uhci/sr_mod loaded Flash memory-card reader? When I try to use the Flash card with supermount none /mnt/flash supermount dev=/dev/sda1,fs=vfat,user,noauto 0 0 it reads a few files and then hangs. It may also be an issue with interrupts -- the drive will lock up if I use non-supermount fstab user-mount statements -- to use the Flash card with LM9.0, I must disable (rmmod) my CD-RW drive support and vice-versa, to use my CDRW, I must rmmod the usb-uhci and sr_mod (which kills the mouse until a reboot) ... the two devices will not co-exist. There were no problems with either device under LM8.2 If it helps, here's what I get in my log. The interrupt status messages continue until I pop the Flash card, resetting the device. Sep 22 13:30:23 maya kernel: usb.c: USB device 5 (vend/prod 0x5dc/0x2) is not claimed by any active driver. Sep 22 13:30:28 maya /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup usb-storage for USB product 5dc/2/1 Sep 22 13:30:28 maya kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage Sep 22 13:30:30 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1753 Sep 22 13:30:33 maya kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Sep 22 13:31:04 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1524 Sep 22 13:31:10 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1436 Sep 22 13:31:16 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1340 ... Sep 22 13:31:22 maya kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 5 Sep 22 13:31:22 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1221 Sep 22 13:31:29 maya /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup usb-storage for USB product 5dc/2/1 Sep 22 13:34:14 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 692 Sep 22 13:34:20 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 596 Sep 22 13:34:26 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 500 ... Sep 22 13:35:04 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 07:51:45 Aug 30 2002 Sep 22 13:35:04 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled Sep 22 13:35:04 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xef80, IRQ 9 Sep 22 13:35:04 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports Sep 22 13:35:04 maya kernel: usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 Sep 22 13:35:04 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver Sep 22 13:35:04 maya usb: Loading USB interface0 (usb-uhci usb-uhci) succeeded Sep 22 13:35:06 maya kernel: input0: USB HID v1.00 Mouse [Logitech USB-PS/2 Trackball] on usb1:3.0 Sep 22 13:35:06 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1756 Sep 22 13:35:06 maya kernel: usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=4 (error=-110) Sep 22 13:35:10 maya /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no modules for USB product 0/0/0 Sep 22 13:35:10 maya /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no modules for USB product 4cc/1122/110 Sep 22 13:35:11 maya /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup usbmouse hid for USB product 46d/c402/210 Sep 22 13:35:11 maya /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup mousedev for USB product 46d/c402/210 Sep 22 13:35:12 maya /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup se401 for USB product 471/30b/2036 Sep 22 13:35:12 maya /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup usb-storage for USB product 5dc/2/1 Sep 22 13:35:43 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1818 Sep 22 13:35:46 maya kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Sep 22 13:35:50 maya kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Sep 22 13:35:50 maya kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 942 Sep 22 13:35:53 maya kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Sep 22 13:38:41 maya kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs Sep 22 13:38:41 maya kernel: usb.c: registered new driver hub -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0RC1 Xscreensaver cannot load images
>>>>> "F" == Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: F> The package is in unsupported/9.0 and should appear on mirror F> soon.. (Cooker is still frozen).. unsupported/9.0? That's a new one on me -- Is that in the Mandrake-devel tree? All the mirrors are too busy at the moment for checking. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0RC1 Xscreensaver cannot load images
>>>>> "F" == Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: F> Ok.. Would it be ok for you to test a "fixed" package to F> confirm this issue is closed ? Then, I'll try to push an F> official update for Mdk 9.0 xscreensaver. A fixed RPM? No problem, I'd be honoured. Besides, if it fails, I know now how to fix it ;) Let me know when the package is in the cooker and I'll give it a spin. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0RC1 Xscreensaver cannot load images
>>>>> "F" == Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: F> I'm wondering if you are not trigerring a bug in F> gdk_pixbuf_xlib with your X server.. Have you tried using F> different resolution or color depth ? I thought of this, especially since the 1152x864 is a bit odd (in RC1 it was not even included in the XFree config mode lines. I tried modes "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" and "640x480". All these popular modes produced this same failure, so I stopped hunting. I didn't try changing the color depth; I use 16 which seems pretty tame. F> Does adding g_type_init fixes your problem ? Yes, by introducing that one call, the problem has vanished; after nearly 3 weeks of excruciating black-and-grey checkboards, we are once again happily watching our jpegs get cut up and scattered in our screensavers. This is /important/ because, as owners of a digital camera, we take /two/ /orders/ /of/ /magnitude/ more pictures than before, and while 90% of those pictures are junk, we're still left with ten times more photos than we were generating with film cameras. This poses the extreme dilemma: How do we /show/ that many photographs? The only reasonable solution is to dump them all into one archive and have every computer in the house pick through them randomly as screensavers. :) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0RC1 Xscreensaver cannot load images
I don't know if this is an absolute fix, but it is a fix.
It's still a mystery why xscreensaver's JPG loading works for /most/
users of Mandrake 9.0 but not for /any/ of my machines -- according to
gdb, the problem was the GType system not being initialized, so how could it be
initialized for some installations and not for others?
There was also a benign bug where the xlib_rgb_init is called twice
(according to the docs, gdk_pixbuf_xlib_init also calls xlib_rgb_init)
here's the patch of my changes:
--- xscreensaver-4.05/driver/xscreensaver-getimage.c2002-05-29 16:49:34.0
-0400
+++ xscreensaver-4.05a/driver/xscreensaver-getimage.c 2002-09-29 17:20:02.0
+-0400
@@ -437,6 +437,9 @@
GdkPixbuf *pb;
Display *dpy = DisplayOfScreen (screen);
char *filename = get_filename (dpy, ac, av);
+#ifdef HAVE_GTK2
+ GError *gerr = NULL;
+#endif /* HAVE_GTK2 */
if (!filename)
{
@@ -448,11 +451,15 @@
fprintf (stderr, "%s: loading \"%s\"\n", progname, filename);
gdk_pixbuf_xlib_init (dpy, screen_number (screen));
+#ifndef HAVE_GTK2
xlib_rgb_init (dpy, screen);
+#else
+ g_type_init();
+#endif
pb = gdk_pixbuf_new_from_file (filename
#ifdef HAVE_GTK2
-, NULL
+, &gerr
#endif /* HAVE_GTK2 */
);
@@ -526,6 +533,10 @@
else if (filename)
{
fprintf (stderr, "%s: unable to load %s\n", progname, filename);
+#ifdef HAVE_GTK2
+ fprintf (stderr, "%s: reason %s\n", progname, gerr->message);
+#endif /* HAVE_GTK2 */
+
goto FAIL;
}
else
--
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"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0: How do I force a re-install?
>>>>> "H" == Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: H> The best thing to do is to back up and to reinstall. But nobody H> ever listens to that advice. And glad I didn't! All it took was deleting the .mozilla directory as there was something inside the Mozilla config that was causing that particular explosion. Similarly, many apps are a lot more stable after deleting all the user .gnome* .gtk* and .sawfish directories. Xscreensaver still can't read any jpg files, but blitspin /will/ now read it's default image, and that's progress. G> Besides, I thought only Windows resorted to "reformat and G> reinstall everything" as a solution ;) And I still believe this. It seems part of my problems is not so much a Mandrake issue as an issue of various software authors not caring about backward compatibility in their config files, so perhaps a caveat to delete and re-instate user accounts should go into the upgrade troubleshooting guide. As a distro, Mandrake takes the brunt the heat, but in reality, LM9.0 is about 95% "third-party" software ;) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0: How do I force a re-install?
>>>>> "H" == Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Is there any other cleaner way to induce the installation >> process to run rpm -Uvh --force to do complete updates of /all/ >> installed distro packages? H> Most definitely. upgrading like that won't work at all. You have H> to use the upgrade via the instalation process. I was afraid of that. H> But then again, it still is a tedious process that can easily H> fail. The install has already failed, so there's very little to lose in trying. H> The best thing to do is to back up and to reinstall. But nobody H> ever listens to that advice. mostly because it would be tremendously tedious and still not foolproof. I would need to sift all of /etc, /var and /home to backup all user and locally changed config files, and I would still run the risk that re-instating one of these changes would put me right back where I am now. Besides, I thought only Windows resorted to "reformat and reinstall everything" as a solution ;) On the plus side, if I must do this, I will have the opportunity to convert my usr partition to ext3, but on the downside, out of two machines in our lab running Mandrake, /both/ were hopelessly corrupted upgrading to 9.0. I could excuse my own machine's woes because it has years of cruft and impatient hacks in it, but the other was a clean 8.2 install yet it exhibits all the same upgrade failure symptoms. That does not bode well for 9.0. At the very least, it would be nice to know what conditions caused the failure so it can be anticipated in 9.1 -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] 9.0: How do I force a re-install?
It seems my update to 9.0 has pretty much fried my machine; there are no obvious clues anywhere as to what is tripping over or where, things just fail without warning or messages, and all over the place. This machine has gone from being the flagship workstation to being less stable than the windows box. Xscreensaver and Mozilla were just the tip of the iceberg. Latest example: I can no longer use any consoles in runlevel 5 because (a) alt-shift-Fn will close the F7-based X session (but leave all the apps alive) and (b) after the gdm daemon timeout, the chosen console shell will be overridden by a return to X in console 7, so there's not enough time to do any serious work in the console. I have run binstats and rpm -Va, and nothing appears amiss, but I have found a few stray libs not belonging to any known package and who knows what cruft is in my /etc/ -- at the very least, all of gdm, XFree86, gnome, gtk-pixbuf and libgcc have /very/ serious problems after the 9.0 upgrade. If I run the install program, choose "Update" and then jump into the shell and wipe /lib /usr/lib /usr/X11R6/lib and /usr/local/lib, will the installation realize the installed packages are invalid and re-install them? I want to avoid losing everything on this disk but I'm running out of alternatives. Is there any other cleaner way to induce the installation process to run rpm -Uvh --force to do complete updates of /all/ installed distro packages? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0 - Mozilla 1.1 menu failures
This is turning into one of those upgrades where you get a big knot in your stomache and say to yourself, "my god, what have I done" Mozilla is not useable in my current state of LM 9.0: Saving links to disk is one thing, but even just selecting a menu item causes mozilla to close with no diagnostics. I have an strace output if anyone is interested; it appears to show difficulty allocating memory, although there's lots to be had: [garym@maya news]$ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:255752 238280 17472 0 9484 107748 -/+ buffers/cache: 121048 134704 Swap: 603776 0 603776 [garym@maya news]$ rpm -qf /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 libgcc1-3.2-1mdk strace ends with ... old_mmap(NULL, 1625337856, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = -1 ENOMEM (Cannot allocate memory) brk(0x698d6000) = 0x8acb000 old_mmap(NULL, 1625337856, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = -1 ENOMEM (Cannot allocate memory) old_mmap(NULL, 1625337856, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = -1 ENOMEM (Cannot allocate memory) ... old_mmap(NULL, 32464, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 27, 0) = 0x414e9000 mprotect(0x414f, 3792, PROT_NONE) = 0 old_mmap(0x414f, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 27, 0x7000) = 0x414f close(27) = 0 munmap(0x414d4000, 82054) = 0 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- In the strace, all I do is load mozilla and click Edit/Preferences -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] 9.0 - Mozilla 1.1 shift-click failures
This one is repeatable with LM9.0 and Mozilla 1.1: Go to http://elisp.info/package/xml-rpc/ and shift-click on the elisp file, select a location to save the file, hit OK and kaboom, no more mozilla, no core, no segfault messages, nothing. This worked fine with RC1 -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] LM9.0: Emulate3Buttons not kept
>>>>> "W" == Wouter Lagerweij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: W> On Sat, 2002-09-28 at 16:25, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: >> Are there such things as /real/ 3-button Linux mice? W> I not sure what you mean. As far as my experience goes, _all_ W> three button mice work fine with X/linux. Interesting; I have tried 3button mice from PC Concepts, RadioShack, those bundled with IBM and Compaqs, and others and have always been left with one dud button. I have a similar problem with other hardware, everything from sound cards (I have the /only/ model of Turtle Beach that doesn't work) to digital cameras; maybe I just have a 6th Sense when it comes to selecting incompatible hardware. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] LM9.0: Emulate3Buttons not kept
This is a minor bug, but a bug nonetheless: The 9.0 install process failed to retain Emulate3Button in the XFConfig-4 usbmouse setting. In all my years, I have never encountered a 3-button mouse that actually works with Linux. The closest I ever found was a mouse that you had to hold down the button during X initialization, which is hardly practical (I believe someone later released code to hack this test) Are there such things as /real/ 3-button Linux mice? I figure there must be, but have never seen any brands recommended. Are there any 3-button trackballs? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0 Xscreensaver still cannot load images
>>>>> "F" == Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: F> And it works here.. The common threads here are that both machines are identical Dell L700CXE's and both were first upgraded to 9.0RC1; the jump to RC1 is where these background images first broke, and so far as we can tell, xscreensaver is the /only/ application affected. Recompiling from sources does not affect the outcome. F> Could you try with other jpg files as the one shipped in F> /usr/share/mdk/background/ ? -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft Same outcome: xscreensaver-getimage: grabVideoFrames:False xscreensaver-getimage: chooseRandomImages: True xscreensaver-getimage: imageDirectory: /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds xscreensaver-getimage: loading random image file xscreensaver-getimage: executing "xscreensaver-getimage-file --verbose --name /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds" xscreensaver-getimage: loading "/usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default.png" (process:31966): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:1806: initialization assertion failed, use g_type_init() prior to this function (process:31966): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 585 (g_object_new): assertion `G_TYPE_IS_OBJECT (object_type)' failed -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0 Xscreensaver still cannot load images
If this helps, here's a list of every lib on my machine that seems like it might be involved in gnome pixbufs; are there any suspicious packages in this list? Anything known to conflict? If there's anyone who also upgraded from 8.2 to 9.0 and for whom xscreensaver's jpg-image functions /works/, can you send me your list of gdk/gnome/gtk library packages so I can compare? libgdkcardimage0-2.0.3-2mdk libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0-2.0.6-8mdk libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0-devel-2.0.6-8mdk libgdk-pixbuf2-0.18.0-3mdk libgdk-pixbuf2-devel-0.18.0-3mdk libgdk-pixbuf-gnomecanvas1-0.18.0-3mdk libgdk-pixbuf-xlib2-0.18.0-3mdk libgimp1.2_1-1.2.3-17mdk libgimp1.2-1.2.3-17mdk libgimp1.2_1-devel-1.2.3-17mdk libglade0-0.17-6mdk libglade0-devel-0.17-6mdk libglade2.0_0-2.0.0-2mdk libglade2.0_0-devel-2.0.0-2mdk libglade-bonobo0-0.17-6mdk libglade-gnome0-0.17-6mdk libglade-gnome-db0-0.17-6mdk libglame0-0.5.2-1mdk libglib1.2-1.2.10-6mdk libglib1.2-devel-1.2.10-6mdk libglib2.0_0-2.0.6-2mdk libglib2.0_0-devel-2.0.6-2mdk libgnome2_0-2.0.2-4mdk libgnome2_0-devel-2.0.2-4mdk libgnome2-2.0.2-4mdk libgnome32-1.4.2-1mdk libgnome32-devel-1.4.2-1mdk libgnomecanvas2_0-2.0.2-1mdk libgnomecanvas2_0-devel-2.0.2-1mdk libgnome-db0-0.2.96-5mdk libgnome-desktop-2_0-2.0.6-4mdk libgnome-desktop-2_0-devel-2.0.6-4mdk libgnomemm-1.2_9-1.2.3-1mdk libgnomeui2_0-2.0.3-2mdk libgnomeui2_0-devel-2.0.3-2mdk libgnomeui2-2.0.3-2mdk libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-29mdk libgtk+1.2-devel-1.2.10-29mdk libgtk+2.0_0-2.0.6-8mdk libgtk+2.0_0-devel-2.0.6-8mdk libgtk+mdk0.1_6-0.1.6-12mdk libgtkmm1.2-1.2.9-3mdk libgtkmm1.2-devel-1.2.9-3mdk libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.0.6-8mdk libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-devel-2.0.6-8mdk -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] 9.0 Xscreensaver still cannot load images
Upgraded to the new release of 9.0 and I still get the identical problem on /both/ machines; the common thread in both machines is that they were both Mandrake 8.2 upgraded to 9.0RC1 and from there to 9.0-release. Unfortunately I do not have a spare machine to determin if this is due to an upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0, or if some faulty RPM install scripts in 9.0RC1 had corrupted just this very specific part of gnome and the official release has not corrected it. xscreensaver-getimage fails on loading the jpegs with the following error: xscreensaver-getimage: loading "/mnt/disk2/pub/photos/Kodak/2002-06-13/dcp_0001.jpg" (process:15335): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:1806: initialization assertion failed, use g_type_init() prior to this function (process:15335): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 585 (g_object_new): assertion `G_TYPE_IS_OBJECT (object_type)' failed I get the same error regardless of the -visual setting; all data is identical to what I had reported before for 9.0RC1 the core file still backtraces the same failure point: #0 0x4003e8de in gdk_pixbuf_new_from_data () from /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (gdb) bt #0 0x4003e8de in gdk_pixbuf_new_from_data () from /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 #1 0x4003cb04 in gdk_pixbuf_new () from /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 #2 0x40022583 in _init () from /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.0.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-jpeg.so #3 0x4003f3ba in gdk_pixbuf_new_from_file () from /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 #4 0x0804af0a in load_image_internal (screen=0x806a160, window=33554434, win_width=600, win_height=480, verbose_p=1, ac=4, av=0xb1f0) at xscreensaver-getimage.c:453 #5 0x0804abe1 in get_image (screen=0x806a160, window=33554434, verbose_p=1) at xscreensaver-getimage.c:342 #6 0x0804b60f in main (argc=2, argv=0xb424) at xscreensaver-getimage.c:672 #7 0x402a5082 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0 and next
>>>>> "B" == Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> - A MandrakeUpdate-like ability to incrementally or selectively >> upgrade a cooker installation B> It already exists. urpmi --auto-select. How do you think we B> update our boxes? You learn something new every day! Thanks for the tip. Maybe we need a Cooker FAQ... -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0 and next
I second the idea to acknowledge bug reports posted to the cooker list, or how about this: We open a new public-postable mailing list called cooker-bugs where you get an acknowledgement of the submission, but you're told not to expect a response; this lets us keep a record of every novice contribution that may become valuable when we later discover more information through other sources -- sometimes the addition info submitted by a novice can shed critical light. If I were in the development/QA crew, I wouldn't want the bug tracker filled up with bad reports, I'd want to control what gets tracked by assigning someone to sift cooker-bugs for repeated reports that can perhaps be put together into a proper bug report worth tracking. Then, like Mozilla, we put the names of the original submitters on the ticket so they are informed of the progress on their bug. it's extra work, but I think it would pay off in the long run. Further to this, it would be nice if the cooker had two new cooker-only utilities: - A 'gripe' button that will compose a message to send to cooker-bugs while also capturing essential system information (kind of like the old windows dr watson. - A MandrakeUpdate-like ability to incrementally or selectively upgrade a cooker installation so you can first ensure you are using the very latest software before you submit the bug. More or less I'd like to open up Cooker QA testing to include more people; the size and complexity of the Mandrake distro is ever-increasing and it's becoming difficult for the core workers to test every possible combination. It's /nice/ to get bug reports from experienced developers, but sometimes by knowing too much, I think developers can forgive a bug that was "too easy to fix" only because they were actively monitoring the lists, irc and all, or just because they have a lot of mandrake experience. More novice users, but those still willing to take a chance on the cooker, could be useful, but I think they might get a little discouraged if the process is too complex (like the Universe, it should be simple, but not too simple ;) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] Unresolved symbols with ov511 in kernel 2.4.19-7
don't know what happened to the v4l devices, but unplugging the camera and plugging it back in reset them and created the right device files. another false-alarm :( ov511.o is still broken though. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] Many warnings/errors reported by harddrake2
lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 674. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 675. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 675. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 675. Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 673. Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 674. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 675. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 675. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 675. Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/lib/libDrakX/harddrake/data.pm line 15. Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/lib/libDrakX/harddrake/data.pm line 15. Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/lib/libDrakX/harddrake/data.pm line 15. Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/lib/libDrakX/harddrake/data.pm line 15. Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/lib/libDrakX/harddrake/data.pm line 15. Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/lib/libDrakX/harddrake/data.pm line 15. Probing BRIDGE class Probing UNKNOWN class Probing PRINTER class rmmod: module parport_probe is not loaded Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/lib/libDrakX/modules.pm line 39. modprobe: Can't locate module parport_probe modprobe: Can't locate module parport_probe Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/lib/libDrakX/modules.pm line 343. Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/lib/libDrakX/modules.pm line 348. Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 639. rmmod: module parport_probe is not loaded Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/scanner.pm line 32. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/scanner.pm line 33. Probing SCANNER class Use of uninitialized value in split at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 111. Use of uninitialized value in split at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 111. Use of uninitialized value in split at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 111. Use of uninitialized value in numeric ne (!=) at /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm line 686. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/mouse.pm line 274. Probing MOUSE class Probing JOYSTICK class Probing ATA_STORAGE class Probing SCSI_CONTROLLER class Probing USB_CONTROLLER class Probing SMB_CONTROLLER class Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/lib/libDrakX/harddrake/ui.pm line 223. Tue Sep 17 11:58:57 2002 Gtk-LOG **: file gtkstatusbar.c: line 233 (gtk_statusbar_pop): assertion `context_id > 0' failed. at /usr/lib/libDrakX/harddrake/ui.pm line 223. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] Unresolved symbols with ov511 in kernel 2.4.19-7
kernel-2.4.19.7mdk-1-1mdk is still giving unresolved symbols in ov511 webcam driver, and the se401 driver is not creating the /dev/v4l devices. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] 9.0RC1 XScreensaver failures
This is probably a Gnome2 issue: I'm using Sawfish on the Gnome desktop and the latest xscreensaver --- I get pretty much the same trace with /all/ xscreensaver modules which access my jpg images ... $ /usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/slidescreen xscreensaver-getimage: grabDesktopImages: False xscreensaver-getimage: grabVideoFrames:True xscreensaver-getimage: chooseRandomImages: True xscreensaver-getimage: imageDirectory: /mnt/disk2/pub/photos xscreensaver-getimage: loading random image file xscreensaver-getimage: executing "xscreensaver-getimage-file --verbose --name /mnt/disk2/pub/photos" xscreensaver-getimage: loading "/mnt/disk2/pub/photos/Kodak/2002-07-28/2002-07-28-0051.jpg" (process:11467): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:1806: initialization assertion failed, use g_type_init() prior to this function (process:11467): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 585 (g_object_new): assertion `G_TYPE_IS_OBJECT (object_type)' failed -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] function definition is void: mime-charset-to-coding-system
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to comp.emacs.xemacs as well.
I cleared out all prior versions (and I'm praying I didn't lose any
clever hacks ;) and re-installed xemacs-21.4.9-3mdk.i586.rpm fresh
from today's cooker, then used the package tools to update to the
latest kit and add liece (no MULE), and I _still_ get this error
trying to run liece:
function definition is void: mime-charset-to-coding-system
Google only has one reference to this error, which seems to suggest
that it's not a common thing, and that it might have something to
do with liece compatibility between GNU Emacs and XEmacs?
The full backtrace:
Signaling: (void-function mime-charset-to-coding-system)
(mime-charset-to-coding-system (quote iso-2022-jp-2))
(if (mime-charset-to-coding-system (quote iso-2022-jp-2)) (quote iso-2022-jp-2)
default-mime-charset-for-write)
eval((if (mime-charset-to-coding-system (quote iso-2022-jp-2)) (quote iso-2022-jp-2)
default-mime-charset-for-write))
custom-initialize-reset(liece-mime-charset-for-write (if
(mime-charset-to-coding-system (quote iso-2022-jp-2)) (quote iso-2022-jp-2)
default-mime-charset-for-write))
custom-declare-variable(liece-mime-charset-for-write (if
(mime-charset-to-coding-system (quote iso-2022-jp-2)) (quote iso-2022-jp-2)
default-mime-charset-for-write) "Charset used in any transferred messages." :type
mime-charset :group liece-coding)
load-internal("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-coding.elc"
nil t t binary)
efs-real-load("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-coding.elc"
nil t t)
load("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-coding.elc" nil t
nil)
efs-real-require(liece-coding
"//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-coding.elc")
si:require(liece-coding nil)
require(liece-coding)
byte-code("..." [require invisible liece-inlines liece-coding] 2)
load-internal("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-misc.elc"
nil t t binary)
efs-real-load("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-misc.elc"
nil t t)
load("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-misc.elc" nil t
nil)
efs-real-require(liece-misc
"//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-misc.elc")
si:require(liece-misc nil)
require(liece-misc)
byte-code("..." [liece-current-function current-load-list require liece-inlines
liece-misc liece-intl liece-handler boundp nil] 2)
load-internal("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-filter.elc"
nil t t binary)
efs-real-load("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-filter.elc"
nil t t)
load("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-filter.elc" nil t
nil)
efs-real-require(liece-filter
"//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-filter.elc")
si:require(liece-filter nil)
require(liece-filter)
byte-code("..." [require liece-message liece-filter liece-handler] 2)
load-internal("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-handle.elc"
nil t t binary)
efs-real-load("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-handle.elc"
nil t t)
load("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-handle.elc" nil t
nil)
efs-real-require(liece-handle
"//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece-handle.elc")
si:require(liece-handle nil)
require(liece-handle)
byte-code("..." [require liece-inlines liece-handle liece-filter liece-hilit
liece-intl liece-menu liece-window liece-tcp featurep xemacs liece-xemacs liece-emacs
liece-commands autoload mule-caesar-region "mule-caesar" nil t
liece-command-browse-url "liece-url" liece-command-dcc-send "liece-dcc"
liece-command-dcc-receive liece-command-dcc-list liece-command-dcc-chat-listen
liece-command-dcc-chat-connect liece-command-dcc-accept liece-command-mail-compose
"liece-mail" liece-command-submit-bug-report] 5)
load-internal("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece.elc" nil
t t binary)
efs-real-load("//usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/lisp/liece/liece.elc" nil
t t)
load("liece" nil nil nil)
command-execute(liece t)
execute-extended-command(nil)
call-interactively(execute-extended-command)
Any known quick fixes?
--
Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications
- blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ -
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9RC1: XEmacs ps-print is broken
>>>>> "w" == warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Is it /wise/ to fork Xemacs incompatibly with it's own package >> manager? w> I guess it must not and it must be fixed, but it seems that on w> some point xemacs ignore the configure option giving the w> datadir as /usr/share and still use /usr/lib/ Symlinks seem to work fine as a temporary measure; I merged the Mandrake i386 tree with the /usr/lib/xemacs tree and then moved xemacs-packages to become i386-Mandrake-linux and symlinked that as /usr/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages ... yes it violates your architecture rule, but if at such time we get XEmacs to agree to that rule, the groundwork is ready for the switch. Is there /really/ architecture-dependent code in those files? I hadn't though that possible with elisp, but I suppose it's probably true. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9RC1: XEmacs ps-print is broken
>>>>> "w" == warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: w> On this point there is a XEmacs faq, you can add the -u option I eventually found this, and then found that I'd set it some long time ago on my own machine which is probably why I forgot about it. As an ardent advocate of "Emacs is for Everyone" (no, I'm not off my rocker) I'm always in favour of initiatives that make it easier for people to get started in Emacs ... w> I may try to add this option as default as it seems that most w> servers do not understand this AUTH command. If you're taking votes, I'd rather a new Emacs user not be confronted with esoteric trivialities like ftp -u -n until they are hooked ;) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9RC1: XEmacs ps-print is broken
I notice that Mandrake is locating things in /usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/ while the built-in update process for Xemacs places them in /usr/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc This leads to a situation where my harddrive now contains: # ls /usr/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc auctex/ frame-icon/ idlwave/ mew/ ps-print/ time/ bbdb/gnats/ ilisp/mine/ reftex/vm/ e/ gnus/jde/ mule/ slider/w3/ ediff/ gnusrefcard/ lisp/ mule-doc/ smilies/ xslt-process/ eicq/hm--html-menus/ message/ psgml/ sounds/zenirc/ # ls /usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/etc/ enriched.doc liece/ mule/ mule-doc/ mule-ucs/ psgml/ ps-print/ reftex/ The former appears to be left over from long-since upgraded Xemacs releases now leaving me with the issue of figuring out which are duplicates and which are updates. Is the i386-mandrake-linux dir is more correct? Is it safe to symlink xemacs-packages to i386-mandrake-linux ? Do I have a real mess or what? Is it /wise/ to fork Xemacs incompatibly with it's own package manager? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TeleDynamics Communications - blog: http://www.auracom.com/~teledyn - biz: http://teledyn.com/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." (Picasso)
[Cooker] Looks Greek to me: ps-print cannot find iso-8859-7
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to comp.emacs.xemacs as well.
This may be an xemacs issue of packages, or it may be part of the
Linux Mandrake 9RC1 issues with the ps-print package ...
After upgrading packages (after adding -u to efs-ftp-program-args) and
correcting the ps-print's code path to the Mandrake customized
/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.9/i386-mandrake-linux/etc/ps-print, I am still
unable to print through /any/ ps-print functions -- printing fails
because of some missing coding:
no such coding: iso-8859-7
Signaling: (error "No such coding system" iso-8859-7)
define-coding-system-alias(greek-iso-8bit iso-8859-7)
byte-code("..." [define-coding-system-alias greek-iso-8bit iso-8859-7
hebrew-iso-8bit iso-8859-8 cyrillic-iso-8bit iso-8859-5 vietnamese-viscii viscii
chinese-big5 big5 thai-tis620 tis-620] 3)
load-internal("/usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ps-print/ps-mule.elc" nil t t
binary)
efs-real-load("/usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ps-print/ps-mule.elc" nil t t)
load("ps-mule" nil nil nil)
ps-mule-initialize()
ps-generate(# 1 198 ps-generate-postscript-with-faces)
ps-spool-with-faces(1 198 nil)
ps-print-with-faces(1 198 nil)
#(nil)
call-interactively(ps-print-buffer-with-faces)
I know I have Greek fonts, and I have the locale, so what else could I
be missing?
--
Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc
Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
[Cooker] 9RC1: XEmacs ps-print is broken
This could be an upgrade issue confounded by legacy config files, but on one machine ps-print's directory is unknown and on the heavily used machine, the directory is known but does not contain the right file... printing from GNUS invokes the ps-print module which looks for /usr/lib/xemacs/packages/etc/ps-print/ps-prin0.ps There is only /usr/lib/xemacs/packages/etc/ps-print/ps-prin2.ps Also, /most/ of the xemacs mirror sites listed in the Tools/Packages/AddDownload won't work with the default installation as those servers do not support the 500 AUTH command. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] sound troubles with RC1
>>>>> "T" == Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: T> Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> An interesting problem with es1371 in RC1: If I use sndconfig, >> it correctly identifies and activates the sound, but the >> initscripts do not automatically enable the sound system. T> send the output of the commands "lspcidrake -v", "fgrep T> snd-slot /etc/modules.conf", "/sbin/lsmod", "/sbin/chkconfig T> --list sound", "/sbin/chkconfig --list alsa", "aumix -q", T> "/sbin/fuser -v /dev/dsp" The culprit appears to be that snd-slot is missing from modules.conf Installation scripts need to add alias snd-slot-0 snd-card-0 -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0 RC1 near-catastrophic failure in installation
>>>>> "p" == pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> What went wrong? Disk space. The installation does not >> properly estimate the required diskspace (it was out by over a >> gigabyte) and when it runs out, ka-bam. p> could you give the list of package you installed so that i can p> reproduce exactly? Sorry, you're right, it's an upgrade of 8.2; there were over 400 packages in my list. >> - XFConfig86 set my max resolution to 1024 when the prior >> config was clearly 1152. Should be an easy fix. p> yeah, easy to divinate your hardware ;p Curious that the modelines for 1152 were all missing from XFConfig-4; I added them and got my resolution back. p> would you mind giving more information? (well if you want it p> fixed of course) The fix is really quite simple to state, but probably very difficult to effect: the install program needs to check diskspace as it adds each package, or have an exit strategy for when writing to the rpmdb fails to ensure that the installation just stops adding packages or pauses to alert the operator that the installation is in trouble. more information is difficult since it's difficult to roll-back and re-create the scenario. This suggests a new feature: Could we have a utility in the pre-release distros that keeps a detailed log and/or uses an optional network connection to spool the install log to some other location? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
[Cooker] 9.0 RC1 near-catastrophic failure in installation
"Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun The frumious Bandersnatch!" Mandrake 9.0rc1 killed my big machine. Not totally toast: After a few hours of intensive care it was up and running good as new, but it was not an adventure for the squeemish and /really/ needs to be addressed before this gets into the hands of people who may not have years of Linux experience. It may be a rare situation, but it is a real situation. What went wrong? Disk space. The installation does not properly estimate the required diskspace (it was out by over a gigabyte) and when it runs out, ka-bam. In my case, I get to the summary screen (keyboard, mouse, printer confirmation) and if you answer OK, you get the error that RPM failed, in tty3 you can see it unable to open headers for the final packages, and the /real/ truth is that if RPM is writing to the disk when the disk fills up, the resulting database is corrupt. In fact, a lot of things get corrupt, and even the shutdown command won't work. The cure: I can't believe people still write software that assumes infinite resources. Memory is /finite/, and so is disk space. The install process should _verify_ it has sufficient space _before_ it paints itself into a corner. I know, that's easy for /me/ to say, but it's still true: My partition shortage comes from an 8.2 install's default partitions, so it's my guess that 9.0 needs a significantly larger root partition. The fix (or rather, _my_ fix) is to restart the install but scoot to tty2 and run lilo to fix the boot table, then reboot the machine on its own disk, move at least a gig of stuff to some other partition, then do the rpmdb --rebuilddb and reboot to retry the upgrade. Other issues: - because I had to upgrade twice in a row, RPMs that store the previous config as configfile.rpmsave bumped the real original into never-never land. - Mason was not removed so it had to be removed by hand from the http configs, and although Apache launches, all attempts to access it return Segmentation faults (similar to when you have module mismatches ... so it could be I have some legacy modules that are frustrating the upgrade) - both a USB and a PS2 mouse are installed in the XFConfig86, but only one of them gets Emulate3Buttons, and wouldn't you know, its the wrong one in my case. Easy fix. Why are there no 3-button trackballs? - ALT = Meta keybinding is gone again. What was the fix for that? - XFConfig86 set my max resolution to 1024 when the prior config was clearly 1152. Should be an easy fix. - Gnome desktop upgrades lose all previous panel config info; my guess is that there's great hoards of programmers working on this, but to be frank, my panels needed a good scrubbing anyway. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] Other stuff to be fixed
We haven't yet extensively tested, but using RC1 the biggest problem so far appears to be the loss of Emulate3Buttons support in the Gnome desktop. It's set in XFConfig86-4, but does not work. Any ideas for ways to debug this? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 9rc1: Gnome will not show: Cannot find file for gnome-vfs
>>>>> "F" == Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: F> I think your install was somehow screwed.. Indubitably ;) ... if it helps, this was an install over top of an 8.0 install. F> try running rpm -V gnome-vfs2 Unsatisfied dependencies for gnome-vfs2-2.0.2-5mdk: libfam.so.0 F> and check libfam0 too I'd love to ... if I can find it! A google search turns up this: RPM resource libfam.so.0 Provided by fam-2.6.4-11.i386 yet rpm -ql of fam-2.6.9-3mdk contains no such library file; checking the cooker and sure enough there is a libfam and no, it is not installed. a quick urpmi et voila! My marriage is saved! :) or almost ... turns out Emulate3Buttons works in Enlightenment but not in Gnome. Any ideas how to fix that? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
[Cooker] urpmi fails
attempting to work-around the gnome bug by installing enlightenment, urpmi fails: unable to correctly parse [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Mandrake Linux 9.0 download rc1 International CD (x86) (cdrom3)] on value "removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS3//c41d-lt-" which is true: the list file ends at precisely that point. Can someone send me the complete file? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
[Cooker] 9rc1: Gnome will not show: Cannot find file for gnome-vfs
Oh boy, am I in trouble now... Just installed RC1 on the wife's computer and I've killed her login. Any advice to fix this is urgently welcomed ;) I've appended the .xsession-error file, but the problem appears to be quite nebulous: The missing file does indeed exist and it is readable. sh: line 1: /lib/cpp: No such file or directory localhost being added to access control list /etc/X11/Xsession: line 128: type: drakfw: not found which: no galeon in (/opt/jdk/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/games) SESSION_MANAGER=local/luna.dyndns.org:/tmp/.ICE-unix/9467 Loaded background '0x808ad00 (gnome-panel:9604): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Cannot load module `/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libfile.so' (libfam.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) [ last message repeated hundreds of times ] gnome-vfs-modules-ERROR **: Could not find 'file' method for gnome-vfs aborting... -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] [Fwd: Re: MP3 Licensing Question]
It's not over until it's over ... >>>>> "n" == newslett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: n> I forward this to the cooker list. I wrote to Frauenhofer and n> their response is below... n> Steve Syatt SSA Public Relations for Thomson multimedia n> Statement from Thomson Multimedia, mp3 Licensing n> To clarify, since the beginning of our mp3 licensing program in n> 1995, Thomson has never charged a per unit royalty for freely n> distributed software decoders. This is not what is explicitly stated at http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html which specifically states "PC software applications" and says nothing at all about only applying to applications in the $200 range. Someone, either Steve or the webmaster, is not telling the whole truth here, and until there is a sworn or otherwise accountable statement one way or the other, the only credible document we have to go on is their website. btw, Emmett wrote a beautiful Thank-You letter: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/openletter.html -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-1.1-1mdk for mdk-8.2
>>>>> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: >> This same issue came up for Mozilla 1.0 B> How so? There are RPMs un unsupported, and I also had some up B> pretty early at http://ranger.dnslias.com/mandrake/mandrake8.2 According to the Cooker archives, the request came first, then your files were announced and I'm not certain when the unsupported files appeared but it was some time after that. I'd checked unsupported and noticed there were only the 1.0 (rc3?) files so I just wondered if there were plans to update those. >> -- is there an archive anywhere with Mozilla 1.1 compiled as an >> upgrade for Mandrake 8.2 systems? B> But, Mozilla will break galeon, and probably nautilus also B> ... so give us some time. I wouldn't miss either, but I understand your dilemma -- I was just curious if a mozilla upgrade for 8.2 was on anyone's todo list. B> Now that I have Gnome2 (thanks to the Mandrake Club who rebuilt B> Fred's RPMs for 8.2 in /opt/gnome2), I might consider keeping B> my 8.2 install (as it has KDE3.0.3, KDE2.2.2, Gnome1.4 and B> Gnome2.0!) I know the feeling; 8.2 is so near to perfect for my purposes that I'm frightened of any jump to an X.zero edition. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
>>>>> "D" == David Walser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: D> The frauenhofer page I've seen doesn't say, all it does is give D> different royalty rates for decoders depending on whether or D> not they're based on frauenhoffer code. The only mention of this I can find on DayPop is a 1999 article on mp3.com: Only two prominent MP3 encoders for UNIX remained: Fraunhofer IIS' own MP3Enc and the freely available BladeEnc. How did BladeEnc survive the royalties crunch? The answer lies in geography. Tord Jansson has been developing BladeEnc in Sweden, where the government does not honor patents on algorithms. The MP3 standard is an algorithm for encoding audio, and therefore, Jansson is not required to pay royalties for his encoder. http://www.mp3.com/news/264.html What has changed? Why do we not just continue to use the BladeEnc? For that matter, why don't we all just move to Sweden! -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
