[Cooker] [Bug 4876] [Installation] none of the translations works with fresh cooker installation

2003-08-31 Thread [kmashrab]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4876


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 Resolution||FIXED




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It works. 
 
Thanks. 

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[Cooker] installation report beta2

2003-08-24 Thread Helge Hielscher
Hello,

although a bit late, here's my installation report:
-there was no minimal limit when resizing NTFS (but when using disdrake
there is), so I got unmontable_boot_volume when I started winxp 
-even if you dont select any server software you get prompted: You have
selected the following servers: webmin, and no further explaination; how
should the user know what webmin is?
-the installer asks for graphical autologin before the X-Server is
configured
-when doing the network (lan) autoconfiguration it states: We are going
to configure your lan connection. Press forward to continue. but the
button is labelled next
-when configuring the bootloader you have the option to select ACPI and
APIC, but there's no help about what ACPI and APIC is

at my first installation I had some problems I couldnt reproduce:
-the XServer was not installed and when I tried to configure X I got:
server is not available (should be in /mnt/usr/X11R6/XFree86

first boot 
-setprofile: setnetprofile failed

after first installation I tried to update to cooker and got
GPG#70771ff3 not ok

other points:
-K3B asks for eMovie at configuration, but there's no eMovie.rpm
-rpmdrake offers zope, but it requires phyton 2.2 (mandrake ships 2.3)

Thats all,
Regards,
Helge




Re: [Cooker] installation report beta2

2003-08-24 Thread Szakacsits Szabolcs

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Helge Hielscher wrote:

 although a bit late, here's my installation report:
 -there was no minimal limit when resizing NTFS (but when using disdrake
 there is), so I got unmontable_boot_volume when I started winxp

This one is supposed to be fixed in current cooker.

Szaka




[Cooker] [Bug 4876] [Installation] New: none of the translations works with fresh cooker installation

2003-08-24 Thread [kmashrab]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4876

   Product: Installation
 Component: i18n
   Summary: none of the translations works with fresh cooker
installation
   Product: Installation
   Version: 1.822
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: i18n
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Whatever language one chooses the second stage of installation comes only in 
English. No 
/usr/share/locale_special/??/LC_MESSAGES/libDrakX.mo is created.

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[Cooker] [installation] packages selection

2003-08-20 Thread stephlub
selection of eggdrop make freeze runinstall2



[Cooker] [installation] package selection

2003-08-20 Thread stephlub
If click is too fast when confirm add dependancies, the window remains and if 
click again OK or cancel,drives to previous stage (quick selection)



Re: [Cooker] installation: what are the file labels

2003-08-18 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi
 
 I have a question for how the file labels under the installation are
 being determined. I had a problem with an error I made when installing
 cooker - which I have done recently say 10 times because of other
 problems. I may describe this in another mail.

We don't use partition labels (AFAIK) because they are not
available for all filesystems (AFAIK). During install, suggested
mountpoints are done according to:

 '/' = 'etc/fstab',
 '/boot' = 'vmlinuz',
 '/tmp'  = '.X11-unix',
 '/usr'  = 'X11R6',
 '/var'  = 'catman',

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Re: [Cooker] Cooker installation report

2003-08-18 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Frederic Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 2) Printer Configuration (Epson Stylus Photo 870, USB)
I tried to print a test page bit got nothing at all
The following command was issued (Ctrl-Alt-F3)
 
 * running: /usr/bin/foomatic-printjob -s cups -P ep870_cooker_
 /usr/share/printer-testpages/testprint.ps with root /mnt
 
 After that (although nothing was printed) the installer GUI started to
 be very unresponsive... Also my connected USB hard drive had the red
 light on (like it was accessed) and this did not stop even when I was
 rebooting... I had to switch the USB HD off and back on again.
 
 Could it be there is a bad interaction between the USB HD and the USB
 printer or something?

do you use an usb hub by any chance? seems there are some kernel
problems with them when it goes to usb-keyboards, that may be
related.

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[Cooker] Cooker installation report (not good)

2003-08-16 Thread Frederic Soulier
Hi 

1) Installing with Grub on a dedicated /boot partition does not work
   (cannot boot)
   Installing with Lilo (graphical) on the same dedicated /boot works
   perfectly fine


2) Supermount is sloo.
   plus every ~5s it feels the need to access the floppy drive...
   also only root has access to the floppy...

   I wish supermount was dropped from the distro. It's never been
   working properly on any machines I've installed Mandrake (and this
   goes back several distro releases). Anyway that's always the 1st
   thing I get rid of after installing Mandrake...


3) Missing KDE programs (eg Konsole)


4) From the MDK login manager, I cannot reboot... only halt the machine
   I'm not gonna start again with the login manager and it has been
   discussed before I believe but why not use a properly themed GDM or
   KDM?!?!


5) In KDE, starting Kate for the 1st time shows only a small window and
   the show terminal is ticked by default. Why? It's an editor.


6) Mandrake
   from lilo prompt to MDK login manager  (110 seconds)
   from MDK login manager to KDE (fully logged)   ( 20 seconds)  

   Gentoo
   from Grub prompt to GDM login manager  ( 63 seconds)
   from GDM login manager to KDE (fully logged)   ( 16 seconds)

   Measured on the same box (dual P3 733MHz, 512Mb Ram, HDs with
   similar perf according to hdparm)


7) Trying to format my USB HD (6Gb) using:
  mkfs.vfat -v -c -F 32 /dev/sda
   I get:
Aug 16 11:04:50 wallaby kernel: MSDOS FS: Using codepage 850
Aug 16 11:04:50 wallaby kernel: MSDOS FS: IO charset iso8859-15
Aug 16 11:04:50 wallaby kernel: FAT: bogus logical sector size 41488
Aug 16 11:04:50 wallaby kernel: VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem
on dev 08:01.
Aug 16 11:04:50 wallaby kernel: FAT: freeing iocharset=iso8859-15
Aug 16 11:05:00 wallaby CROND[3295]: (mail) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S
/var/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news)
Aug 16 11:10:00 wallaby CROND[3316]: (mail) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S
/var/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news)
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 3, frame#
654
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429615
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429616
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429617
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429618
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429619
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429620
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel: SCSI disk error : host 3 channel 0 id 0
lun 0 return code = 7
Aug 16 11:10:57 wallaby kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 429621

(about 28Mb of this crap...)

8) My USB HD is correctly recognized as /dev/sda1 but when I switched on
my firewire HD enclosure I get:

Aug 16 10:50:01 wallaby kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-2 device
Aug 16 10:50:01 wallaby kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: Node 0-00:1023: Max
speed [S400] - Max payload [2048]
Aug 16 10:50:01 wallaby /etc/hotplug/ieee1394.agent: Setup sbp2 for
IEEE1394 product 0x00/0x00609e/0x010483

but cat /proc/scsi/scsi does show anything and ls -la /dev/sd* still
shows only sda1 (I expect sdb1 and sdb2 as I have 2 partitions on the HD
in the firewire enclosure).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lspcidrake
agpgart : Intel Corporation|82840 840 (Carmel) Chipset Host
Bridge (Hub A) [BRIDGE_HOST]
unknown : Intel Corporation|82840 840 (Carmel) Chipset AGP
Bridge [BRIDGE_PCI]
unknown : Intel Corporation|82840 840 (Carmel) Chipset PCI
Bridge (Hub B) [BRIDGE_PCI]
i810_rng: Intel Corporation|82801AA 810 Chipset Hub to PCI
Bridge [BRIDGE_PCI]
i810-tco: Intel Corporation|82801AA 810 Chipset LPC Interface
Bridge [BRIDGE_ISA]
unknown : Intel Corporation|82801AA 810 Chipset IDE Controller
[STORAGE_IDE]
usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|82801AA 810 Chipset USB Controller
[SERIAL_USB]
unknown : Intel Corporation|82801AA 810 Chipset SMBus Controller
[SERIAL_SMBUS]
Card:NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic): NVidia|GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
[DISPLAY_VGA]
unknown : Intel Corporation|82806AA PCI64 Hub PCI Bridge
[BRIDGE_PCI]
unknown : Intel Corporation|82806AA PCI64 Hub Advanced
Programmable Interrupt Controller [SYSTEM_PIC]
aic7xxx : Adaptec|7892A [STORAGE_SCSI]
unknown : Texas Instruments|PCI2250 PCI-to-PCI 

Re: [Cooker] Cooker installation report (not good)

2003-08-16 Thread Duncan
On Sat 16 Aug 2003 05:23, Frederic Soulier posted as excerpted below:
 3) Missing KDE programs (eg Konsole)

Konsole was just split off of kdebase.  It's now a separate package, 
kdebase-konsole, or some such.  I think it should still be installed by 
default, but either it isn't tweaked to do so when selecting KDE yet, due the 
the newness of the split, or others think otherwise, it would seem

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temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin




Re: [Cooker] Cooker installation report (not good)

2003-08-16 Thread guran
On Saturday 16 August 2003 22.38, Duncan wrote:
 On Sat 16 Aug 2003 05:23, Frederic Soulier posted as excerpted below:
  3) Missing KDE programs (eg Konsole)

 Konsole was just split off of kdebase.  It's now a separate package,
 kdebase-konsole, or some such.  I think it should still be installed by
 default, but either it isn't tweaked to do so when selecting KDE yet, due
 the the newness of the split, or others think otherwise, it would seem
This has happened for me a couple of times now, and I am afraid that someone 
might be trying to do the same mistake as RedHat has been doing, forcing the 
user away from KDE. to the slower and rigid Gnome.
Pathetic, if this is the case.
guran
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Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk

Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth
can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.




Re: [Cooker] Cooker installation report (not good)

2003-08-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 22:21, guran wrote:
 On Saturday 16 August 2003 22.38, Duncan wrote:
  On Sat 16 Aug 2003 05:23, Frederic Soulier posted as excerpted below:
   3) Missing KDE programs (eg Konsole)
 
  Konsole was just split off of kdebase.  It's now a separate package,
  kdebase-konsole, or some such.  I think it should still be installed by
  default, but either it isn't tweaked to do so when selecting KDE yet, due
  the the newness of the split, or others think otherwise, it would seem
 This has happened for me a couple of times now, and I am afraid that someone 
 might be trying to do the same mistake as RedHat has been doing, forcing the 
 user away from KDE. to the slower and rigid Gnome.
 Pathetic, if this is the case.
 guran

However, you're being paranoid and unhelpful. KDE is being split up
because it makes perfect sense to split KDE up, and what you're seeing
is teething troubles, and the reason you're seeing them is because this
is Cooker, where teething troubles happen. Don't like 'em, go elsewhere.
See, no need to panic.
-- 
adamw




[Cooker] Cooker installation report

2003-08-15 Thread Frederic Soulier
Hi

1) There was an error installing packages
gatos-0.0.6-2001016-11mdk
   Isn't this one in contrib normally?

2) Printer Configuration (Epson Stylus Photo 870, USB)
   I tried to print a test page bit got nothing at all
   The following command was issued (Ctrl-Alt-F3)

* running: /usr/bin/foomatic-printjob -s cups -P ep870_cooker_
/usr/share/printer-testpages/testprint.ps with root /mnt

After that (although nothing was printed) the installer GUI started to
be very unresponsive... Also my connected USB hard drive had the red
light on (like it was accessed) and this did not stop even when I was
rebooting... I had to switch the USB HD off and back on again.

Could it be there is a bad interaction between the USB HD and the USB
printer or something?

3) I installed cooker on a dedicated HD (hde) using the following
partitioning:

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hde1   * 1   101 50872+  83  Linux
/dev/hde2   102 79780  401582165  Extended
/dev/hde5   102  2181   1048288+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hde6  2182 79780  39109864+  8e  Linux LVM

Inside the LVM I have:
/dev/vg1/rootlv
/dev/vg1/usrlv
/dev/vg1/usrlocallv
/dev/vg1/homelv
/dev/vg1/optlv
/dev/vg1/varlv
/dev/vg1/tmplv
/dev/vg1/vmwarelv

I chose to install Grub on /dev/hde1.
On my primary HD (hda) I have XOSL (www.xosl.org) installed on a small
FAT16 partition (/dev/hda1) I then created a Linux Mandrake 9.2 entry
pointing at /dev/hde1 to boot LM9.2
note: this is a setup I've been using for the last 2 years and has been
working well.
   
Unfortunately when I reboot and select Linuxc Mandrake 9.2 in XOSL I
get GRUB displayed on the screen and then nothing else...

This is what I have in /boot (/dev/hde1):
-
[ 13:21:18 ::root#wallaby ::/mnt/_tmp_ ] ls -la
total 5999
drwxr-xr-x3 root root 1024 Aug 14 13:21 .
drwxr-xr-x   15 root root  368 Jul 31 17:57 ..
-rw-r--r--1 root root   619362 Aug 14 00:46
System.map-2.4.22-0.4mdk
-rw-r--r--1 root root   614569 Aug 13 22:32
System.map-2.4.22-0.4mdksmp
-rw-r--r--1 root root50360 Aug 14 00:46
config-2.4.22-0.4mdk
-rw-r--r--1 root root49896 Aug 13 22:32
config-2.4.22-0.4mdksmp
-rw-r--r--1 root root 5032 Aug 11 12:08 diag1.img
-rw-r--r--1 root root16796 Aug 11 12:08 diag2.img
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 1024 Aug 14  2003 grub
-rw-r--r--1 root root   981420 Aug 14  2003
initrd-2.4.22-0.4mdk.img
-rw-r--r--1 root root   982148 Aug 14  2003
initrd-2.4.22-0.4mdksmp.img
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   27 Aug 14  2003 initrd-smp.img
- initrd-2.4.22-0.4mdksmp.img
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   24 Aug 14  2003 initrd.img -
initrd-2.4.22-0.4mdk.img
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   30 Aug 14  2003 kernel.h -
/boot/kernel.h-2.4.21-6mdkBOOT
-rw-r--r--1 root root  441 Aug 10 18:30
kernel.h-2.4.21-6mdkBOOT
-rw-r--r--1 root root6 Aug 12 12:59 kernel.h-2.4.22
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   15 Aug 14  2003 message -
message-graphic
-rw-r--r--1 root root96382 Aug 14  2003 message-graphic
-rw-r--r--1 root root  132 Aug 14  2003 message-text
-rw-r--r--1 root root  256 Aug 10 18:59 uk.klt
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   21 Aug 14  2003 vmlinuz -
vmlinuz-2.4.22-0.4mdk
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1334593 Aug 14 00:46
vmlinuz-2.4.22-0.4mdk
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1342047 Aug 13 22:32
vmlinuz-2.4.22-0.4mdksmp
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   24 Aug 14  2003 vmlinuz-smp -
vmlinuz-2.4.22-0.4mdksmp

And grub/menu.lst is:
-
timeout 10
color black/cyan yellow/cyan
i18n (hd2,0)/grub/messages
keytable (hd2,0)/uk.klt
altconfigfile (hd2,0)/grub/menu.once
default 2

title linux
kernel (hd2,0)/vmlinuz root=/dev/vg1/rootlv devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi
acpi=off splash=silent vga=788
initrd (hd2,0)/initrd.img

title linux-nonfb
kernel (hd2,0)/vmlinuz root=/dev/vg1/rootlv devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi
acpi=off vga=794
initrd (hd2,0)/initrd.img

title linux-smp
kernel (hd2,0)/vmlinuz-smp root=/dev/vg1/rootlv devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi
acpi=off vga=794
initrd (hd2,0)/initrd-smp.img

title windows
root (hd1,0)
map (0x81) (0x80)
map (0x80) (0x81)
makeactive
chainloader +1

title floppy
root (fd0)
chainloader +1

title failsafe
kernel (hd2,0)/vmlinuz root=/dev/vg1/rootlv failsafe devfs=nomount
hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off vga=794
initrd (hd2,0)/initrd.img
-- 
Frederic Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED]




[Cooker] installation: what are the file labels

2003-08-15 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
Hi

I have a question for how the file labels under the installation are
being determined. I had a problem with an error I made when installing
cooker - which I have done recently say 10 times because of other
problems. I may describe this in another mail.

One of the times I forgot to deselect my /var partition from mdk 9.1,
that is, because there was a /var label on that partition, the
installation partitioning suggested that I mounted that partition on
/var - and yes, then my rpm database for MDK 9.1 was gone... :-(

I then tried to figure our how to change the file system labels,
but till now to no avail. I tried e2label and  reiserfstune -l
but these did not change the labels that are used in drakx,
and mount -l did not show these labels. When using e2label, the new
labels did not show up in drakx either.

Can somebody tell me how to set these mounting point labels?

I like to use them. I have something like 30 partitions on different
harddisks on my development system, and file system labelling looks
a good way to keep track of them and it is also a good way of saving
time for setting up partitioning for installing different systems, and
even avoid errors like the above (and other similar or even more
disastrous errors:-(

If you make any changes, then please make something that would work also
for RedHat, Suse etc. My take is that it would  be better to use both
labelling schemes, (the one available with e2label reiserfstune etc, and
the apparant other scheme), with a preference to one of them. 
I also note that the labels seem to be restricted to 16 characters, which
is somewhat short, if this is a mount path. 

Best regards
Keld



Re: [Cooker] installation: what are the file labels

2003-08-15 Thread Duncan
On Fri 15 Aug 2003 09:39, Keld Jørn Simonsen posted as excerpted below:
 I have a question for how the file labels under the installation are
 being determined.

 One of the times I forgot to deselect my /var partition from mdk 9.1,
 that is, because there was a /var label on that partition, the
 installation partitioning suggested that I mounted that partition on
 /var - and yes, then my rpm database for MDK 9.1 was gone... :-(

 I then tried to figure our how to change the file system labels,
 but till now to no avail. I tried e2label and  reiserfstune -l

I'm guessing it's simply following the path from the boot loader to root, and 
reading /etc/fstab to see what you currently have mounted where, then 
suggesting that.  Unless I somehow missed something or read your post wrong, 
you should be able to change the labels (mount points) by changing the 
mount points for the various partitions either there, or by using diskdrake.

-- 
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin




Re: [Cooker] installation: what are the file labels

2003-08-15 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:09:00AM -0700, Duncan wrote:
 On Fri 15 Aug 2003 09:39, Keld Jørn Simonsen posted as excerpted below:
  I have a question for how the file labels under the installation are
  being determined.
 
  One of the times I forgot to deselect my /var partition from mdk 9.1,
  that is, because there was a /var label on that partition, the
  installation partitioning suggested that I mounted that partition on
  /var - and yes, then my rpm database for MDK 9.1 was gone... :-(
 
  I then tried to figure our how to change the file system labels,
  but till now to no avail. I tried e2label and  reiserfstune -l
 
 I'm guessing it's simply following the path from the boot loader to root, and 
 reading /etc/fstab to see what you currently have mounted where, then 
 suggesting that.  Unless I somehow missed something or read your post wrong, 
 you should be able to change the labels (mount points) by changing the 
 mount points for the various partitions either there, or by using diskdrake.

Nah, that is not it. diskdrake does not even show labels set with
e2label. I think to would be nice if it would, and then possibly both
the labels available, if any. 

And at initial installation time there is no fstab to read, so it cannot
take it from there. 
I think some of these labels come form some oldish redhat installation
of mine.

Best regards
keld



Re: [Cooker] [Bug 4239] [drakxtools] Cooker installation: LVMproblem when partitioning the disk

2003-08-14 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 16:19, Pixel wrote:
 [frederic] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/lvcreate:
running: lvdisplay  ARRAY(0x81cb8cc) -D -c /dev/vg1/
  
  If I then try to click on the created partition and try to delete I get
  lvremove failed. Changing to Ctrl-Alt-F2 and doing the lvremove manually on
  rootlv works which tells me that the lvcreate does work fine but somehow the
  lvdisplay creates this mess...
  
  In the case above shouldn't the lvdisplay line be more like:
running: lvdisplay  ARRAY(0x81cb8cc) -D -c /dev/vg1/rootlv
  (?)
  
  Just guessing...
 
 you guessed right. fixed in CVS
 
 thanks! (and sorry for the time it took to have a look)

No worries ;) I'm sure you've got plenty on your plate :)

 @resolution=fixed
-- 
Frederic Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED]




[Cooker] Cooker Installation Report (hd.img)

2003-08-14 Thread Frederic Soulier
Hi

Installing Grub on dedicated boot partition /dev/hde1 (I have xosl on a
dedicated FAT16 partition on /dev/hda1 which I use to choose which OS to
boot). I'm then presented with a screen asking me from which drive I'm
booting. I don't understand the purpose of this screen... I've already
indicated to the installer I want Grub on /dev/hde1

Also several packages were missing during the installation (wrong
hdlist?)
   linuxconf-lib-1.29r3-4mdk
   linuxconf-1.29r3-4mdk
   libgucharmap3-0.8.0-3mdk
   tcptraceroute-1.5-0.beta3-2mdk
   gatos-0.0.6-0.20010216-11mdk
   gnome-network-1.99.0-6mdk
   gucharmap-0.8.0-3mdk
   openuniverse-1.0.0.beta3-11mdk

Also something quite weird and annoying... I have 3 HDs: hda, hde  hdg
hde  hdg are connected to a Promise Ultra100 TX2 Ultra/ATA controller.
On hdg I have a LVM volume group vg2 where Gentoo is setup. On hde I'm
installing cooker with LVM (not straightforward, bug#4239) using volume
group vg1. I've tried twice to do a complete cooker installation and
twice my gentoo had pbm rebooting because of /etc/modules.conf being
completely screwed...
Considering I name my volumes under LVM as etclv, homelv, varlv etc...
Could it be possible that the installer messed up something having
access to /dev/vg1/etclv and /dev/vg2/etclv ?
This is really weird but this has happened only after attempting to
install cooker!

-- 
Frederic Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED]




[Cooker] Installation problem#2 - shadow password not used on install

2003-08-14 Thread Jason Straight
When installing my non root user during install he didn't land in /etc/shadow, 
it used /etc/passwd to store the password, and there was no mention of the 
username in /etc/shadow.

root - however, was in shadow fine.

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[Cooker] Installation problem - external USB used to boot, bootloader install failed

2003-08-14 Thread Jason Straight
As of this morning w/ updated cooker mirror:

Installed from hd, used usb external floppy to boot my sony grx, when 
installing bootloader get:
Installation of bootloader failed. The following error occured:
:part_nowrite:read:: input/output error

I noticed every time I did that it tried to access my floppy, so I unplugged 
it and lilo went right on.

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Re: [Cooker] [Bug 4239] [drakxtools] Cooker installation: LVM problem when partitioning the disk

2003-08-14 Thread Pixel
[frederic] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/lvcreate:
   running: lvdisplay  ARRAY(0x81cb8cc) -D -c /dev/vg1/
 
 If I then try to click on the created partition and try to delete I get
 lvremove failed. Changing to Ctrl-Alt-F2 and doing the lvremove manually on
 rootlv works which tells me that the lvcreate does work fine but somehow the
 lvdisplay creates this mess...
 
 In the case above shouldn't the lvdisplay line be more like:
   running: lvdisplay  ARRAY(0x81cb8cc) -D -c /dev/vg1/rootlv
 (?)
 
 Just guessing...

you guessed right. fixed in CVS

thanks! (and sorry for the time it took to have a look)

@resolution=fixed



Re: [Cooker] [installation] printer-utills not found

2003-08-14 Thread stephlub
 Known, fixed, most over-reported bug for beta2.
sorry

 Buchan
thanks




Re: [Cooker] Installation of Bootloader failed.

2003-08-14 Thread Joe Baker

Mandrake 9.2 beta2 is the OS.
I recently tried booting into rescue mode on the laptop
to see if I could salvage the installation of Mandrake9.2 beta 2.
When I try to execute lilo, I get this error in dmesg:

  attempt to access beyond end of device
  03:01: rw=0, want=4, (=0x4), limit=1


I'm guessing this is a problem with lilo or the kernel?

-Joe Baker

On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 10:39, Joe Baker wrote:
 This was on a Sony VAIO PCG-Z505SX
 
 Performing a network install (FTP) 
 USB Floppy.
 This was next step after Add a user.
 I chose MBR.
 For some reason, the floppy disk spun up 
 when it went to write the MBR to the hard drive
 then this  message appeared
 
 :p part_nowrite: read:: Input/output error
 
 Next Clicking OK takes me back to the 
 Where do you want to install the bootloader? prompt.
 
 If I keep selecting MBR the same cycle repeats.
 
 To get out of the cycle I choose skip.
 Then went to the Bootloader main options screen.
 
 From here also, I get the same message when trying 
 to install the MBR to /dev/hda.
 -Joe Baker
 





Re: [Cooker] Cooker Installation Report (hd.img)

2003-08-14 Thread Daouda LO
Frederic Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi
 
 Installing Grub on dedicated boot partition /dev/hde1 (I have xosl on a
 dedicated FAT16 partition on /dev/hda1 which I use to choose which OS to
 boot). I'm then presented with a screen asking me from which drive I'm
 booting. I don't understand the purpose of this screen... I've already
 indicated to the installer I want Grub on /dev/hde1
 
 Also several packages were missing during the installation (wrong
 hdlist?)
linuxconf-lib-1.29r3-4mdk
linuxconf-1.29r3-4mdk

Moved to contribs. Warly is fixing ...

[...]



Re: [Cooker] Installation problem#2 - shadow password not used on install

2003-08-14 Thread Pixel
Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When installing my non root user during install he didn't land in /etc/shadow, 
 it used /etc/passwd to store the password, and there was no mention of the 
 username in /etc/shadow.

oops. my fault.

fixing!



Re: [Cooker] Installation of Bootloader failed.

2003-08-14 Thread Joe Baker
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 12:29, Joe Baker wrote:
 Mandrake 9.2 beta2 is the OS.
 I recently tried booting into rescue mode on the laptop
 to see if I could salvage the installation of Mandrake9.2 beta 2.
 When I try to execute lilo, I get this error in dmesg:
 
   attempt to access beyond end of device
   03:01: rw=0, want=4, (=0x4), limit=1
 
 
 I'm guessing this is a problem with lilo or the kernel?
 
 -Joe Baker
 
 On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 10:39, Joe Baker wrote:
  This was on a Sony VAIO PCG-Z505SX
  
  Performing a network install (FTP) 
  USB Floppy.
  This was next step after Add a user.
  I chose MBR.
  For some reason, the floppy disk spun up 
  when it went to write the MBR to the hard drive
  then this  message appeared
  
  :p part_nowrite: read:: Input/output error
  
  Next Clicking OK takes me back to the 
  Where do you want to install the bootloader? prompt.
  
  If I keep selecting MBR the same cycle repeats.
  
  To get out of the cycle I choose skip.
  Then went to the Bootloader main options screen.
  
  From here also, I get the same message when trying 
  to install the MBR to /dev/hda.
  -Joe Baker

I managed to get the GRUB boot loader installed!

This problem may well have been a problem with the Sony Vaio's built
in Memory Stick Reader interface.  I had this device turned on
and it was showing up ad a corrupted partition on hdc (when I had
no hdc drive).   Ideally, it would be great to get support for the
memory stick on the Vaio, but I know they havn't always been 
so cooperative with Open Source developers.  For now I will just
disable the memory stick reader.

I'm thinking that this issue can be closed.

-Joe Baker




[Cooker] [installation] printer-utills not found

2003-08-14 Thread stephlub
I 've no printer connected yet but tried to configure printer at end of 
installation

tty7
An error occured
printer-utils rpm not found

tty1
...
cannot read printrc file!

tty3
...
selecting packages foomatic-db-engine foomatic-filters foomatic-db 
printer-utils printer-testpages nmap scli
opened rpm database for examining existing packages
unknow package `printer-utils'
warning: printer-utils rpm not found at /usr/bin/perl-install/install_steps.pm 
line 348.




Re: [Cooker] [installation] printer-utills not found

2003-08-14 Thread Buchan Milne
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stephlub wrote:
 I 've no printer connected yet but tried to configure printer at end of
 installation
 ...
 selecting packages foomatic-db-engine foomatic-filters foomatic-db
 printer-utils printer-testpages nmap scli
 opened rpm database for examining existing packages
 unknow package `printer-utils'
 warning: printer-utils rpm not found at
/usr/bin/perl-install/install_steps.pm
 line 348.


Known, fixed, most over-reported bug for beta2.

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] Installation of Bootloader failed.

2003-08-14 Thread Joe Baker

This was on a Sony VAIO PCG-Z505SX

Performing a network install (FTP) 
USB Floppy.
This was next step after Add a user.
I chose MBR.
For some reason, the floppy disk spun up 
when it went to write the MBR to the hard drive
then this  message appeared

:p part_nowrite: read:: Input/output error

Next Clicking OK takes me back to the 
Where do you want to install the bootloader? prompt.

If I keep selecting MBR the same cycle repeats.

To get out of the cycle I choose skip.
Then went to the Bootloader main options screen.

From here also, I get the same message when trying 
to install the MBR to /dev/hda.
-Joe Baker






[Cooker] [Bug 4239] [drakxtools] Cooker installation: LVM problem when partitioning the disk

2003-08-14 Thread [frederic]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4239





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-06-08 23:47 ---
I've tried again today doing more research...

  running: lvcreate -size 358400k -n rootlv vg1
  remove_bigseldom_used
  getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/lvcreate:
  running: lvdisplay  ARRAY(0x81cb8cc) -D -c /dev/vg1/

If I then try to click on the created partition and try to delete I get
lvremove failed. Changing to Ctrl-Alt-F2 and doing the lvremove manually on
rootlv works which tells me that the lvcreate does work fine but somehow the
lvdisplay creates this mess...

In the case above shouldn't the lvdisplay line be more like:
  running: lvdisplay  ARRAY(0x81cb8cc) -D -c /dev/vg1/rootlv
(?)

Just guessing...


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Ultra100-TX2 controller). vg1 is empty.
Note: (before running the MDK installer). On /dev/hde using fdisk I
created an extended partition in /dev/hde4, a 1024Mb swap partition in
/dev/hde5 and the rest of the disk is /dev/hde6 as LVM (0x8e)

I toggle to expert mode.
I try to create a new logical volume:
 Size in MB: 350
Filesystem Type: Jounalised FS: ReiserFS
Mount Point: /
Logical Volume Name: rootlv

Switching to Ctrl-Alt-F3 I can see:
---
  running: lvcreate -size 358400k -n rootlv vg1
  remove_bigseldom_used
  getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/lvcreate:
  running: lvdisplay  ARRAY(0x81cb8cc) -D -c /dev/vg1/

Switching back to Ctrl-Alt-F7:
--
if I click on the partition just created I see the following details:
   Mount Point: /
   Device: vg1/
   Type: Journalised FS: ReiserFS (0x183)
   Start: sector 0
   Size: 0(0%), sectors
   Cylinder: 0 to 0
   Not Formatted


It seems odd the Device is vg1/ when I specify rootlv as the name
(basically I'm expecting /vg1/rootlv as the device name). Also why is
the size 0, it should 350Mb...

If I carry on and try to create a 2nd logical volume for /usr for
example with a size of 5000 then eventhough I give usrlv as the name
of the logical volume I end up having vg1/

There seems to be something quite wrong here with LVM...



Re: [Cooker] Installation of Bootloader failed.

2003-08-11 Thread Joe Baker

On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 11:12, Buchan Milne wrote:
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 Joe Baker wrote:
  This was on a Sony VAIO PCG-Z505SX
 
  Performing a network install (FTP)
  USB Floppy.
  This was next step after Add a user.
  I chose MBR.
  For some reason, the floppy disk spun up
  when it went to write the MBR to the hard drive
  then this  message appeared
 
  :p part_nowrite: read:: Input/output error
 
  Next Clicking OK takes me back to the
  Where do you want to install the bootloader? prompt.
 
  If I keep selecting MBR the same cycle repeats.
 
  To get out of the cycle I choose skip.
  Then went to the Bootloader main options screen.
 
 From here also, I get the same message when trying
  to install the MBR to /dev/hda.
  -Joe Baker
 
 
 
 
 Would you mind telling us which version you are using ??? Beta1? Beta2?
 Cooker? 9.1?
 
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Oh, so sorry.

Version is: Mandrake 9.2.beta2

Thanks





Re: [Cooker] Installation of Bootloader failed.

2003-08-09 Thread Buchan Milne
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Joe Baker wrote:
 This was on a Sony VAIO PCG-Z505SX

 Performing a network install (FTP)
 USB Floppy.
 This was next step after Add a user.
 I chose MBR.
 For some reason, the floppy disk spun up
 when it went to write the MBR to the hard drive
 then this  message appeared

 :p part_nowrite: read:: Input/output error

 Next Clicking OK takes me back to the
 Where do you want to install the bootloader? prompt.

 If I keep selecting MBR the same cycle repeats.

 To get out of the cycle I choose skip.
 Then went to the Bootloader main options screen.

From here also, I get the same message when trying
 to install the MBR to /dev/hda.
 -Joe Baker




Would you mind telling us which version you are using ??? Beta1? Beta2?
Cooker? 9.1?

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[Cooker] [Bug 4239] [drakxtools] Cooker installation: LVM problem when partitioning the disk

2003-08-05 Thread [frederic]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4239


[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|major   |critical
Summary|Cooker FTP install: LVM |Cooker installation: LVM
   |problem when partitioning   |problem when partitioning
   |the disk|the disk




--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-05-08 12:44 ---
It also happens using a HD installtion with hd.img
This bugs prevents me from installing cooker as I want my installation to use
LVM. I may be able to use a different way to install cooker on LVM but I want to
make sure it works from the installer.

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Note: (before running the MDK installer). On /dev/hde using fdisk I
created an extended partition in /dev/hde4, a 1024Mb swap partition in
/dev/hde5 and the rest of the disk is /dev/hde6 as LVM (0x8e)

I toggle to expert mode.
I try to create a new logical volume:
 Size in MB: 350
Filesystem Type: Jounalised FS: ReiserFS
Mount Point: /
Logical Volume Name: rootlv

Switching to Ctrl-Alt-F3 I can see:
---
  running: lvcreate -size 358400k -n rootlv vg1
  remove_bigseldom_used
  getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/lvcreate:
  running: lvdisplay  ARRAY(0x81cb8cc) -D -c /dev/vg1/

Switching back to Ctrl-Alt-F7:
--
if I click on the partition just created I see the following details:
   Mount Point: /
   Device: vg1/
   Type: Journalised FS: ReiserFS (0x183)
   Start: sector 0
   Size: 0(0%), sectors
   Cylinder: 0 to 0
   Not Formatted


It seems odd the Device is vg1/ when I specify rootlv as the name
(basically I'm expecting /vg1/rootlv as the device name). Also why is
the size 0, it should 350Mb...

If I carry on and try to create a 2nd logical volume for /usr for
example with a size of 5000 then eventhough I give usrlv as the name
of the logical volume I end up having vg1/

There seems to be something quite wrong here with LVM...



[Cooker] Installation failure and reboot failure

2003-07-31 Thread guran
Hi

After a rsync at uninett I did an installation.
Version:
Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030731 18:37

I asked for everything to the left plus firewall = 1843 MB
After asking for individual packages and pressing next it wanted to install 
1305 MB.
I went back and rechecked the individual packages and let it install.
Printer was identified as HP 710C, but wanted to give me 712C. The paper was 
set to USletter although I asked for added swedish language and zone c.

Rebooted and gave startx, got into a blue screen with a bad window of 
inst.wizard. Exited X and installed Xtart = only the Microsoft-Gnome and 
IceWM was there.

Could not reboot the box, last sentence:
open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
had to use a hard reset. 
After that I tried to reboot my other test Cooker that was updated prior to 
this installation, and KDE was gone there to.

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Re: [Cooker] installation and errata

2003-07-20 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 12:58:07AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
 On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Olivier Blin wrote:
 
  Hi
  
  Would it be possible to show the errata url at the beginning of the 
  installation ?
  
  It would have been useful for Mandrake 9.1 users with more than 1GB of 
  memory.
  Today, I've helped a new user that didn't know why the installation 
  hanged. The errata url is showed at the end of Mandrake 9.1 
  installation, 
  so he couldn't know that the problem was the big amount of memory.
  If the errata url was showed at the beginning of the installation, he 
  could have found it himself ...

Another way of doing things was to early on in the install process to
ask whether errata should be installed, that is, before installing all
the packages. That would mean that errors in the distribution could be
remedied. I had an error with the drakx install script that it was in
the wrong charset, this was highly annoying - if the script could go out
and ask if errata should be applied very early then errors like these
could be avoided. And it would save quite some time in a network install
if you do not  need to first download the erroneous packages and then
the coorections.

best regards
Keld



Re: [Cooker] installation and errata

2003-07-20 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote:

 Another way of doing things was to early on in the install process to
 ask whether errata should be installed, that is, before installing all
 the packages. That would mean that errors in the distribution could be
 remedied. I had an error with the drakx install script that it was in
 the wrong charset, this was highly annoying - if the script could go out
 and ask if errata should be applied very early then errors like these
 could be avoided.

Aren't these usually addressed by patch floppy images? You image a 
floppy, boot the installation disk, type 'patch' at the syslinux prompt, 
and put the floppy in later.

 And it would save quite some time in a network install
 if you do not  need to first download the erroneous packages and then
 the coorections.

Of course, it would also be useful if you could specify the updates mirror 
to use, or if it would also check the mirror you are installing from for 
the standard updates location (since that is probably the nearest/fastest 
mirror anyway).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] installation and errata

2003-07-20 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 12:40:31PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
 On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote:
 
  Another way of doing things was to early on in the install process to
  ask whether errata should be installed, that is, before installing all
  the packages. That would mean that errors in the distribution could be
  remedied. I had an error with the drakx install script that it was in
  the wrong charset, this was highly annoying - if the script could go out
  and ask if errata should be applied very early then errors like these
  could be avoided.
 
 Aren't these usually addressed by patch floppy images? You image a 
 floppy, boot the installation disk, type 'patch' at the syslinux prompt, 
 and put the floppy in later.

Yes, that is true, but it would be more convenient if there was a
possibility to also use the network for this. I do not think the patch
possibility is well known, at least not for newbies, and it is
cumbersome to make the patch floppy, and even to disseminate the
information that a patch is available. 

  And it would save quite some time in a network install
  if you do not  need to first download the erroneous packages and then
  the coorections.
 
 Of course, it would also be useful if you could specify the updates mirror 
 to use, or if it would also check the mirror you are installing from for 
 the standard updates location (since that is probably the nearest/fastest 
 mirror anyway).

Yes, it would be nice to have the information on updates be pushed to
the users. I am advocating for a secure system that is easy to install
even for newbies, and automatic updating to fix security patches and
such is important. Having the current install site as the default would
be fine, or some mirror dependent on the languagei chosen would also be good.

best regards
keld



Re: [Cooker] installation and errata

2003-07-20 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 20 July 2003 09:15 am, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 12:40:31PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
 
  Aren't these usually addressed by patch floppy images? You image a
  floppy, boot the installation disk, type 'patch' at the syslinux prompt,
  and put the floppy in later.

 Yes, that is true, but it would be more convenient if there was a
 possibility to also use the network for this. I do not think the patch
 possibility is well known, at least not for newbies, and it is
 cumbersome to make the patch floppy, and even to disseminate the
 information that a patch is available.

I have had a machine that needed three of the errata patches at once.  I never 
did figure out how to apply more than one per install when all the patch 
files are named patch.pl.
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Re: [Cooker] installation and errata

2003-07-19 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
 B == Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

B Maybe the syslinux boot screen should tell the user to read the
B docs if anything goes wrong? Or is it wrong to expect a user to
B read instructions nowadays?

It's likely sufficient to mention where the docs are located and would
be good ettiquette to note which of the core install docs have changed
since the previous release.

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Re: [Cooker] installation and errata

2003-07-18 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Olivier Blin wrote:

 Hi
 
 Would it be possible to show the errata url at the beginning of the 
 installation ?
 
 It would have been useful for Mandrake 9.1 users with more than 1GB of 
 memory.
 Today, I've helped a new user that didn't know why the installation 
 hanged. The errata url is showed at the end of Mandrake 9.1 
 installation, 
 so he couldn't know that the problem was the big amount of memory.
 If the errata url was showed at the beginning of the installation, he 
 could have found it himself ...


This would have to be on the syslinux splash screen? AFAIK, with the 1GB 
bug, you don't really seen anything but that?

Of course, the errata site *is* listed in the installation instructions, 
easily accessible on the CD, but who would think to look there ;-).

Maybe the syslinux boot screen should tell the user to read the docs if 
anything goes wrong? Or is it wrong to expect a user to read instructions 
nowadays?

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] installation and errata

2003-07-18 Thread Olivier Blin
Hi

Would it be possible to show the errata url at the beginning of the installation ?

It would have been useful for Mandrake 9.1 users with more than 1GB of memory.
Today, I've helped a new user that didn't know why the installation hanged. The errata 
url is showed at the end of Mandrake 9.1 installation, so he couldn't know that the 
problem was the big amount of memory.
If the errata url was showed at the beginning of the installation, he could have found 
it himself ...

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Re: [Cooker] Installation failed: guile

2003-06-09 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
Bjørn wrote:

One of the following packages is needed:
1- libguile10-devel-1.4.1-4mdk.i586
2- libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk.i586
What is your choice? (1-2) 2
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (6 
MB):
libguile10-1.4.1-4mdk.i586
libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk.i586
libltdl3-devel-1.4.3-2mdk.i586
Is this OK? (Y/n)
   
ftp.uninett.no::Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/libltdl3-devel-1.4.3-2mdk.i586.rpm
installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libguile10-1.4.1-4mdk.i586.rpm 
rsync://ftp.uninett.no::Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/libltdl3-devel-1.4.3-2mdk.i586.rpm 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk.i586.rpm

unable to install package 
rsync://ftp.uninett.no::Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/libltdl3-devel-1.4.3-2mdk.i586.rpm
Installation failed:
   libltdl.so is needed by libguile10-1.4.1-4mdk

This one shouldn't be there... I'll fix.

   libltdl-devel is needed by libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk
   libltdl.so is needed by libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk
Bjørn Jørgensen

 

Only the signature of libltdl3-devel seems to be screwed...

# urpmi libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk.i586
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be 
installed (16 
MB  
):
guile-1.6.0-4mdk.i586
libgpm1-devel-1.20.1-5mdk.i586
libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk.i586
libltdl3-devel-1.4.3-2mdk.i586
libncurses5-devel-5.3-1.20030215.2mdk.i586
readline-devel-4.3-5mdk.i586
Is this OK? (Y/n)
The following packages have bad signatures:
/mirrors/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/libltdl3-devel-1.4.3-2mdk.i586.rpm
Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y
installing 
/mirrors/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/readline-devel-4.3-5mdk.i586.rpm 
/mirrors/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/libncurses5-devel-5.3-1.20030215.2mdk.i586.rpm 
/mirrors/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/libgpm1-devel-1.20.1-5mdk.i586.rpm 
/mirrors/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/guile-1.6.0-4mdk.i586.rpm 
/mirrors/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/libltdl3-devel-1.4.3-2mdk.i586.rpm 
/mirrors/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk.i586.rpm

Preparing...
##
  1:libltdl3-devel 
##
  2:guile  
##
  3:readline-devel 
##
  4:libgpm1-devel  
##
  5:libncurses5-devel  
##
  6:libguile12-devel   
##

Can you try again, perhaps --nodeps the packages and do a rpm -Va | 
grep dep afterwards. rpm is showing some strange behaviour lately...

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[Cooker] Installation failed: guile

2003-06-08 Thread Bjørn
One of the following packages is needed:
 1- libguile10-devel-1.4.1-4mdk.i586
 2- libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk.i586
What is your choice? (1-2) 2
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (6 
MB):
libguile10-1.4.1-4mdk.i586
libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk.i586
libltdl3-devel-1.4.3-2mdk.i586
Is this OK? (Y/n)

ftp.uninett.no::Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/libltdl3-devel-1.4.3-2mdk.i586.rpm
installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libguile10-1.4.1-4mdk.i586.rpm 
rsync://ftp.uninett.no::Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/libltdl3-devel-1.4.3-2mdk.i586.rpm
 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk.i586.rpm

unable to install package 
rsync://ftp.uninett.no::Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/libltdl3-devel-1.4.3-2mdk.i586.rpm
Installation failed:
libltdl.so is needed by libguile10-1.4.1-4mdk
libltdl-devel is needed by libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk
libltdl.so is needed by libguile12-devel-1.6.0-4mdk


Bjørn Jørgensen




[Cooker] [Installation] problems

2003-03-31 Thread Edward Cherlin
I upgraded a 9.0 to 9.1, and now the KDE toolbar and menu and 
drakconf (especially menudrake and keyboarddrake) are broken. 

Toolbar: all buttons munged. Cannot find preferences, command, 
icon.

Menu: Some of my apps are on this menu, but a lot are missing, 
and a lot of other stuff has appeared.

menudrake: Finds my old menu and lets me edit it. Saving has no 
effect on the displayed toolbar menu.

keyboarddrake: Random failures and crashes. Sometimes will not 
run. Sometimes runs but will not change keyboard. (I got stuck 
in Hindi, and had to use kcharmap to enter logout command so I 
could reboot. That didn't fix it. I had to reinstall the 
keyboards.) Sometimes acts as if it is changing the keyboard, 
but doesn't. Sometimes locks up keyboard. 

It appears that some packages were inconsistently upgraded, and 
that different parts of the system are looking at different 
config files.

I think a clean install is in order.

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Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem

2003-03-20 Thread Enrico Galli
I have the following PC configuration
Processor AMD Athlon 1800
HD Samsung SP 600 3H 60 GB
videoSIS 650_651_M650_740
DVD 52x BDV 316C
CD RW LG 48x12x48 HL-DT-ST GCE 8400B
Net device   SIS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
Modem  HSP56 MR
Controller open host sis 7001 da PCI a USBSIS 7002 USB 2.0 Enhanced host 
controller
Controller PCI IDE SIS

When I try to install Mandrake 9.0 it stop it when it check HD partition.

Is this problem occur because Samsung HD is not developed by Mandrake 
drivers?

Thank In advance

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Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem

2003-03-20 Thread Duncan
On Thu 20 Mar 2003 07:10, Enrico Galli posted as excerpted below:
 I have the following PC configuration
 Processor AMD Athlon 1800
 HD Samsung SP 600 3H 60 GB
[]
 When I try to install Mandrake 9.0 it stop it when it check HD partition.

 Is this problem occur because Samsung HD is not developed by Mandrake
 drivers?

Hard drives are pretty much standardized, now.  They are either EIDE or SCSI, 
and take fairly generic drivers, unless you have some sort of hardware RAID, 
which can be an issue, but that's not the hard drive, it's the RAID 
controller that's the issue.

It may be an issue with an error on your current partitions, however.   I'd 
suggest either erasing them and starting clean, if you don't have a Windows 
or other partition you want to keep, or running scandisk and defrag (assuming 
Windows) to make sure what you have is as error free as possible before going 
further.  You may also wish to try something like the proprietary-ware 
Partition Magic.  I had good experiences with them, b4 I switched off of 
proprietary-ware and onto software libre such as Mandrake.  I'd bought 
another product, Partition It, which basically screwed things up, but 
Partition Magic was able to fix the problem without me having to know exactly 
what it was and get into the details.

That said, this is the Cooker list, for betas, not the install help or 
Mandrake Expert forum.  Mandrake 9.1 just came out, so cooker would be going 
on 9.2 now, and you are asking here about 9.0?  I'd help you if I could, but 
I'm on this list and not the install list for a reason -- I don't know that 
much about install problems.  Therefore, the guess above about it being an 
error on the current partition, with the suggestions following it,  is about 
the best I can do.

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Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem

2003-03-20 Thread Quel Qun
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:15, Duncan wrote:
 On Thu 20 Mar 2003 07:10, Enrico Galli posted as excerpted below:
  I have the following PC configuration
  Processor AMD Athlon 1800
  HD Samsung SP 600 3H 60 GB
 []
  When I try to install Mandrake 9.0 it stop it when it check HD partition.
 
  Is this problem occur because Samsung HD is not developed by Mandrake
  drivers?
 
 Hard drives are pretty much standardized, now.  They are either EIDE or SCSI, 
 and take fairly generic drivers, unless you have some sort of hardware RAID, 
 which can be an issue, but that's not the hard drive, it's the RAID 
 controller that's the issue.
 
 It may be an issue with an error on your current partitions, however.   I'd 
 suggest either erasing them and starting clean, if you don't have a Windows 
 or other partition you want to keep, or running scandisk and defrag (assuming 
 Windows) to make sure what you have is as error free as possible before going 
 further.  You may also wish to try something like the proprietary-ware 
 Partition Magic.  I had good experiences with them, b4 I switched off of 
 proprietary-ware and onto software libre such as Mandrake.  I'd bought 
 another product, Partition It, which basically screwed things up, but 
 Partition Magic was able to fix the problem without me having to know exactly 
 what it was and get into the details.
 
 That said, this is the Cooker list, for betas, not the install help or 
 Mandrake Expert forum.  Mandrake 9.1 just came out, so cooker would be going 
 on 9.2 now, and you are asking here about 9.0?  I'd help you if I could, but 
 I'm on this list and not the install list for a reason -- I don't know that 
 much about install problems.  Therefore, the guess above about it being an 
 error on the current partition, with the suggestions following it,  is about 
 the best I can do.

However, I have the same problem with a laptop where 2.4.19 boots fine
and there is no file system corruption (reiserfs partitions).
2.4.21 refuses to boot further than the HD check.

This is a real problem since the install floppy uses the same kernel and
does not boot either.

There is no way I can update this machine.

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3388
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Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem

2003-03-20 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
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On Thursday 20 March 2003 19:02, Quel Qun wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:15, Duncan wrote:
  On Thu 20 Mar 2003 07:10, Enrico Galli posted as excerpted below:
   I have the following PC configuration
   Processor AMD Athlon 1800
   HD Samsung SP 600 3H 60 GB
 
  []
 
   When I try to install Mandrake 9.0 it stop it when it check HD
   partition.
  
   Is this problem occur because Samsung HD is not developed by Mandrake
   drivers?
 
  Hard drives are pretty much standardized, now.  They are either EIDE or
  SCSI, and take fairly generic drivers, unless you have some sort of
  hardware RAID, which can be an issue, but that's not the hard drive, it's
  the RAID controller that's the issue.
 
  It may be an issue with an error on your current partitions, however.  
  I'd suggest either erasing them and starting clean, if you don't have a
  Windows or other partition you want to keep, or running scandisk and
  defrag (assuming Windows) to make sure what you have is as error free as
  possible before going further.  You may also wish to try something like
  the proprietary-ware Partition Magic.  I had good experiences with them,
  b4 I switched off of proprietary-ware and onto software libre such as
  Mandrake.  I'd bought another product, Partition It, which basically
  screwed things up, but Partition Magic was able to fix the problem
  without me having to know exactly what it was and get into the details.
 
  That said, this is the Cooker list, for betas, not the install help or
  Mandrake Expert forum.  Mandrake 9.1 just came out, so cooker would be
  going on 9.2 now, and you are asking here about 9.0?  I'd help you if I
  could, but I'm on this list and not the install list for a reason -- I
  don't know that much about install problems.  Therefore, the guess above
  about it being an error on the current partition, with the suggestions
  following it,  is about the best I can do.

 However, I have the same problem with a laptop where 2.4.19 boots fine
 and there is no file system corruption (reiserfs partitions).
 2.4.21 refuses to boot further than the HD check.

 This is a real problem since the install floppy uses the same kernel and
 does not boot either.

 There is no way I can update this machine.

 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3388
try to disable dma, this worked for me
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Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem

2003-03-20 Thread Duncan
On Thu 20 Mar 2003 11:02, Quel Qun posted as excerpted below:
 However, I have the same problem with a laptop where 2.4.19 boots fine
 and there is no file system corruption (reiserfs partitions).
 2.4.21 refuses to boot further than the HD check.

 This is a real problem since the install floppy uses the same kernel and
 does not boot either.

That's a bit interesting.  I filter subjects with kernel in them as I use the 
stock kernel, not Mdk's, compiled myself with some stuff directly compiled, 
not modularized, and don't do pre's, only full releases of stable.  Thus, I'm 
still on 2.4.20, and with all the stuff I've seen flying around about 
21-pre-whatever, I'm beginning to thing that's a wise decision.

As for ReiserFS, have you always used the no-tail option?  Here, I dumped 
no-tail and initrd some time ago, with no problems so far direct booting 
ReiserFS on all partitions, from LILO directly to a boot partition with 
Reiser on it, without the no-tail option either.  Of course, as I'm using 
Reiser native, I compiled it directly into the kernel, rather than as a 
module, as well.  Perhaps that's it?  As I said, tho, no problems whatsoever 
with it, here.  However, it's possible that .21preX has problems, perhaps 
with initrd and module loading for that, perhaps related to no-tail or the 
lack of it, perhaps something else.  I suppose that's why they call it pre, 
altho it could be a Mdk kernel patch conflict, rather than something in the 
main kernel.

Has anyone looked into whether they have the same problems with the kernel.org 
mainline kernel, and if so, at what official pre patch level it triggers?

(As mentioned, I normally filter subject lines w/ kernel in them, so don't 
change the subject to include that if you want me to continue following the 
thread.  Otherwise, whatever.)

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Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem

2003-03-20 Thread Quel Qun
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 11:07, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
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 On Thursday 20 March 2003 19:02, Quel Qun wrote:
  On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:15, Duncan wrote:
   On Thu 20 Mar 2003 07:10, Enrico Galli posted as excerpted below:
I have the following PC configuration
Processor AMD Athlon 1800
HD Samsung SP 600 3H 60 GB
  
   []
  
When I try to install Mandrake 9.0 it stop it when it check HD
partition.
   
 
  However, I have the same problem with a laptop where 2.4.19 boots fine
  and there is no file system corruption (reiserfs partitions).
  2.4.21 refuses to boot further than the HD check.
 
  This is a real problem since the install floppy uses the same kernel and
  does not boot either.
 
  There is no way I can update this machine.
 
  http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3388
 try to disable dma, this worked for me

As I wrote in the bug report, I tried booting with ide0=nodma (I also
tried ide0=notune), but it did not change anything.
I don't have access to any dma setting in the BIOS.
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Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem

2003-03-20 Thread Bruno Prior
Quel Qun wrote:
As I wrote in the bug report, I tried booting with ide0=nodma (I also
tried ide0=notune), but it did not change anything.
I don't have access to any dma setting in the BIOS.
Don't know if it's supposed to be this way, but when I was having 
trouble with installing from an old CD-ROM drive and wanted to disable 
DMA on that IDE channel, ide0=nodma had no effect, but ide=nodma worked. 
Maybe nodma can only be applied across the board to all IDE channels. 
You could try it.

Cheers,

Bruno Prior




Re: [Cooker] Installation Problem

2003-03-20 Thread Quel Qun
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 16:08, Bruno Prior wrote:
 Quel Qun wrote:
  
  As I wrote in the bug report, I tried booting with ide0=nodma (I also
  tried ide0=notune), but it did not change anything.
  I don't have access to any dma setting in the BIOS.
 
 Don't know if it's supposed to be this way, but when I was having 
 trouble with installing from an old CD-ROM drive and wanted to disable 
 DMA on that IDE channel, ide0=nodma had no effect, but ide=nodma worked. 
 Maybe nodma can only be applied across the board to all IDE channels. 
 You could try it.
 
yep, yep, yep,
That fixed it, thanks a lot.
The kernel documentation is misleading because it says:

  ide?=   [HW] (E)IDE subsystem : config (iomem/irq), tuning or
  debugging (serialize,reset,no{dma,tune,probe}) or
  chipset specific parameters.

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[Cooker] Installation

2003-03-17 Thread Dennis D Courtney
Whenever I try to install cooker from cd I get the error that there was
a problem installing filesystem-2.1.3-8mdk

Any clue as to what the problem is?  Do I need to do something else?  I
have tried from 2 different sets of cds.



Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-03-17 Thread Buchan Milne
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Dennis D Courtney wrote:

 Whenever I try to install cooker from cd I get the error that there was
 a problem installing filesystem-2.1.3-8mdk
 
 Any clue as to what the problem is?  Do I need to do something else?  I
 have tried from 2 different sets of cds.
 

rpm -K path/to/filesystem*.rpm 
?

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Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-03-17 Thread Dennis D Courtney
I tried it and this is what I got:

filesystem-2.1.3-8mdk.noarch.rpm: md5 gpg OK


On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 15:23, Buchan Milne wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Dennis D Courtney wrote:
 
  Whenever I try to install cooker from cd I get the error that there was
  a problem installing filesystem-2.1.3-8mdk
  
  Any clue as to what the problem is?  Do I need to do something else?  I
  have tried from 2 different sets of cds.
  
 
 rpm -K path/to/filesystem*.rpm 
 ?



Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-03-17 Thread Dennis D Courtney
I tried it and this is what I got:

filesystem-2.1.3-8mdk.noarch.rpm: md5 gpg OK

Could it have something to do with my upgrading 9.1rc2 rather than a
full install?

On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 15:23, Buchan Milne wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Dennis D Courtney wrote:
 
  Whenever I try to install cooker from cd I get the error that there was
  a problem installing filesystem-2.1.3-8mdk
  
  Any clue as to what the problem is?  Do I need to do something else?  I
  have tried from 2 different sets of cds.
  
 
 rpm -K path/to/filesystem*.rpm 
 ?



[Cooker] Installation

2003-03-16 Thread Dennis D Courtney
I tried a fresh install of cooker, everything installed perceftly,
except filesystem  It told me that there was a problem with the file. 
So I tried another copy I had made a few days before and received the
same error.  Please help!  I reinstalled rc1 to get this far.



Re: [Cooker] installation report RC1

2003-03-04 Thread Buchan Milne
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Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 Helge Hielscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


-rpmdrake:
*proxy configuration is not easy and is not explained in the help
file (how to use a ftp and an http proxy?)


 Well I don't know myself very much on how to use both types of
 proxies :).



Surely florin has a test setup you can use with squid?

For us, when necessary (this method does not allow exclusing lists, and
we don't want updates going through our ISPs external proxy back into
the local FTP server when they would charge us for it ...) we use

http_proxy=http://proxy.domain.com:3128
ftp_proxy=http://proxy.domain.com:3128

I forget if DrakX allows using an http proxy server for ftp proxy, and I
do not know if it is possible to proxy ftp via ftp ...

This was an issue before ... (DrakX not allowing http in the ftp proxy
field).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] installation report RC1

2003-03-04 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   *the UI is sometimes very slow
   *difficult to add a cooker source (there need to be some help
   with synthesis/hdlist)
  
  The list of cooker sources has been deliberately removed because
  people used to use cooker for updating their packages, that
  leading with broken systems.
 
 Two questions here.
 
  1. Doesn't this violate the GPL

Nothing to do with the licensing!??

First, it's not code. Second, we're talking about a feature I
don't provide, this is totally disconnected to the license.

  2. Don't try to protect people from themselves, it only causes ill
 will.

Well, for your information, doing a Linux distribution involves
protecting people from themselves in a vast number of places.

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Re: [Cooker] installation report RC1

2003-03-03 Thread Reinout van Schouwen
Hallo Helge,

On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Helge Hielscher wrote:

 layer does in detail. There was no explanation of the security admin field.
 - often (e.g. choose how many CDs, Internet config) it sais Wählen Sie
 O.K.(choose OK), but the button label is Weiter

...

Die Deutsche übersetzungen sind noch nicht fertig. Auch die übersetzungen
sind abhängig von freiwilliger Arbeit. Also geh mal nach
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/l10n/de.php3 und lese
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=446

Vielleicht kannst du mithelfen?

freundliche gruesse,

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Re: [Cooker] installation report RC1

2003-03-03 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Montag,  3. März 2003, 13:07:20 Uhr MET, schrieb Reinout van Schouwen:
 Die Deutsche übersetzungen sind noch nicht fertig. Auch die übersetzungen
 sind abhängig von freiwilliger Arbeit. Also geh mal nach
 http://www.linux-mandrake.com/l10n/de.php3 und lese
 http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=446

Ich werde mich mal schnell um drakcronat kümmern, OK?

I'll take care of the german translation of drakcronat.

CU
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Re: [Cooker] installation report RC1

2003-03-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Helge Hielscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 -rpmdrake:
 *proxy configuration is not easy and is not explained in the help
 file (how to use a ftp and an http proxy?)

Well I don't know myself very much on how to use both types of
proxies :).

I guess this feature is, first, for experts and second, I need
suggestions and tests by users to ameliorate it.

 *the UI is sometimes very slow
 *difficult to add a cooker source (there need to be some help
 with synthesis/hdlist)

The list of cooker sources has been deliberately removed because
people used to use cooker for updating their packages, that
leading with broken systems.

 *tree with applications is not complete (e.g. foobilliard is not
 under games)

foobillard is correctly displayed under Games/Sports in All
packages, by groups sort.

If you talk about Mandrake choices, as the name implies, it's a
limited choices of packages considered better. Even the
documentation explains it:

-=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=--
Mandrake choices

This sort order will present you the packages in the four groups
you've already seen during the installation of your Mandrake
Linux. This is the easier sort order because it focuses on a
selected part of the available packages, which are considered to
be the most useful of the distribution.
-=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=--

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] installation report RC1

2003-03-03 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 09:10, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 Helge Hielscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  -rpmdrake:
  *proxy configuration is not easy and is not explained in the help
  file (how to use a ftp and an http proxy?)
 
 Well I don't know myself very much on how to use both types of
 proxies :).
 
 I guess this feature is, first, for experts and second, I need
 suggestions and tests by users to ameliorate it.
 
  *the UI is sometimes very slow
  *difficult to add a cooker source (there need to be some help
  with synthesis/hdlist)
 
 The list of cooker sources has been deliberately removed because
 people used to use cooker for updating their packages, that
 leading with broken systems.

Two questions here.

 1. Doesn't this violate the GPL
 2. Don't try to protect people from themselves, it only causes ill
will.

One statement.

  Ultimately it's your show so ignore me if you'd like.

 
  *tree with applications is not complete (e.g. foobilliard is not
  under games)
 
 foobillard is correctly displayed under Games/Sports in All
 packages, by groups sort.
 
 If you talk about Mandrake choices, as the name implies, it's a
 limited choices of packages considered better. Even the
 documentation explains it:
 
 -=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=--
 Mandrake choices
 
 This sort order will present you the packages in the four groups
 you've already seen during the installation of your Mandrake
 Linux. This is the easier sort order because it focuses on a
 selected part of the available packages, which are considered to
 be the most useful of the distribution.
 -=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=--




Re: [Cooker] installation report RC1

2003-03-03 Thread Vox

This time James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
becomes daring and writes:

 On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 09:10, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 Helge Hielscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  -rpmdrake:
  *proxy configuration is not easy and is not explained in the help
  file (how to use a ftp and an http proxy?)
 
 Well I don't know myself very much on how to use both types of
 proxies :).
 
 I guess this feature is, first, for experts and second, I need
 suggestions and tests by users to ameliorate it.
 
  *the UI is sometimes very slow
  *difficult to add a cooker source (there need to be some help
  with synthesis/hdlist)
 
 The list of cooker sources has been deliberately removed because
 people used to use cooker for updating their packages, that
 leading with broken systems.

 Two questions here.

  1. Doesn't this violate the GPL

   No

  2. Don't try to protect people from themselves, it only causes ill
 will.

  Uhm...when I noticed they had done this, I didn't think they were
  protecting people from themselves...I thought smart guys, they are
  protecting whoever has to deal with tech support...try to deal with
  a user that broke his box by using cooker as an update media
  without knowing what cooker really is.

  Vox

-- 
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of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_
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Re: [Cooker] installation report RC1

2003-03-03 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 22:00, Vox wrote:
 This time James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 becomes daring and writes:
 
  On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 09:10, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
  Helge Hielscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   -rpmdrake:
   *proxy configuration is not easy and is not explained in the help
   file (how to use a ftp and an http proxy?)
  
  Well I don't know myself very much on how to use both types of
  proxies :).
  
  I guess this feature is, first, for experts and second, I need
  suggestions and tests by users to ameliorate it.
  
   *the UI is sometimes very slow
   *difficult to add a cooker source (there need to be some help
   with synthesis/hdlist)
  
  The list of cooker sources has been deliberately removed because
  people used to use cooker for updating their packages, that
  leading with broken systems.
 
  Two questions here.
 
   1. Doesn't this violate the GPL
 
No

Now I know.
 
   2. Don't try to protect people from themselves, it only causes ill
  will.
 
   Uhm...when I noticed they had done this, I didn't think they were
   protecting people from themselves...I thought smart guys, they are
   protecting whoever has to deal with tech support...try to deal with
   a user that broke his box by using cooker as an update media
   without knowing what cooker really is.
 

Which is why I said... Ultimately it's their distro Downside... it
makes it darn difficult for me to find out if my problem is a bug per se
or a conflict with my hardware etc.  For example:  the new QT3 libs in
cooker stop kde from working on my laptop... but if I move back to the
ones in RC1... it works fine.  But since no one else is reporting this
I'd love to know why it's happening for me.  Without the data ... it's
hard to do.


   Vox




[Cooker] installation report RC1

2003-03-02 Thread Helge Hielscher
Hello,

this weekend I've found some time to give 9.1RC1 a try. Here is a list 
of points that can be improved:

Installing RC1:
- when you choose the Sicherheitsebene(security layer), the help field 
could use a hint about where to find aditional information what each 
layer does in detail. There was no explanation of the security admin field.
- often (e.g. choose how many CDs, Internet config) it sais Whlen Sie 
O.K.(choose OK), but the button label is Weiter
- Do you really want to install these servers is irritating if you do 
a default expert workstation installation. There should rather be an 
explaination why these servers are installed by default.
-The Window where you are asked to change the CDs is to small, you have 
to scroll to see all the (German) text.
-when you add a user, the Weiter(next) button is not visible, I had to 
use the tab key and guess that there is a next button somewher to proceed
-the step where you do other things, like the installation of the 
printer drivers and firewall config, shouldnt be called 
Zusammenfassung(summary). Better might be Einstellungen(configurations).
-you can't activate the Firewall for all ports (no open ports)
-you should be able to test if the internet works right after the 
configuration, to make sure that the auto update works later on

Running Cooker:
-mcc
*some windows have no names (e.g. please wait ...) and are displayed 
as namenloses Fenster in the taskbar (gnome2)
-rpmdrake:
*proxy configuration is not easy and is not explained in the help file 
(how to use a ftp and an http proxy?)
*the UI is sometimes very slow
*difficult to add a cooker source (there need to be some help with 
synthesis/hdlist)
*tree with applications is not complete (e.g. foobilliard is not under 
games)
-menus
*sometimes application do not show up (e.g. foobilliard)
*sodipodi is under Graphics not under Vectorgraphics (BTW why is 
vectorgraphics under Office Programms?)
*KTuberling is under amusement/card games not under amusement/misc
-some packages had signature errors
-gnome2:
*the is no rpm of the quick-lounge-applet 
(http://quick-lounge.sourceforge.net)
*Strg-Alt shortcuts do not work (e.g. Strg-Alt-F1 or Strg-Alt-+)
*if you dont use GKB, AltGr+letter do not give special characters (,; 
I use locales=de_DE.UTF8)
*the font which is used by default in the console cant display cyrillic 
characters
-other
*reboot doesnt work smoothly (maybe ACPI related?)

Hope that my test helps a bit.

Regards,
Helge Hielcher



[Cooker] Installation problems

2003-02-22 Thread marcos colome
 
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[Cooker] Installation problems

2003-02-22 Thread marcos colome
I have tried to install Mandrake Linux 9.1 beta 3 in three differents types of computers with differents Via chipsets, but I am getting more than 20 errors
after the installation of the first disk, and specially when the second cd start
to install the office programs, I have 'yes' to continue with the installation, I did not
have that kind of problem with beta 1, and 2. The other problem that I have is
that it look that it has configured the video card, but when it reboot again the
computer freeze and then I am forced to reset the computer and then I am able
to login, and then it does not want to configure the Lan card, in my main computer
I have an on board Brodcam 10/100 it detected as eth0 but then I am unable to
go in the internet, I installed a second Realtek Lan Card but it does not detect this
one that I know that the drivers are more popular than Broadcam. After all I would
like to tell that it is the most beatiful and colorfull distro that Mandrake has designed
it can be used by itself for my application, there is not need to have MS Windows
dual boot, with all the defects it looks very nice. I had also problem with the
installation of the printer, at the beginning I get a red circle and it won boot, I did
reinstalled again without printer, but when I try to detect the printer,it freeze the
computer. Have you tried to resolve these bugs for the final version or Beta 4?
The times when I have been able to go in the internet the connection is fast and
it works faster than prior versions. I would like to know why the second disk is
making so many errors when it is installing the open office packages. Another
problem is that sometimes it does not want to recognize the third Cd, it is asking
for an international disk, I had to insert the cd several times in the cd rom and 
then it start to install the packages. I think it is important to have more drivers
for the Viewsonic monitors since they are becoming very populars, I could not
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Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-19 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
R. Dale Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   There are no errors indicated in console 4 (or 3).
 Console 2 shows (with ps) that the install2 process is still
 running.  But it never gets to the point of scanning serial
 ports, tho'.  I looked at the install2 perl script, but I'm
 not a perl programmer  couldn't make much of it.  I thought
 of adding echo lines to try to determine where it was, but
 realized I'd have to a) change the perl, b) make a new .rdz,
 c) burn another cdr of the result.  Seemed a long way around.
 Is there a shorter way?

Well there are, but it's rather long/complicated to deploy.

What are the last messages you can see on consoles 1 and 3?

   More info.  I only hangs in 'expert', I did a full
 install with the default (not hitting F1  typing expert).
   I see rc1 is here.  I shall be burning a set of cdr's
 shortly and check it.

PS : can you quote the messages the right way, a.k.a putting your comments
 after my sentences? it would be easier to follow the thread

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-18 Thread R. Dale Thomas
	There are no errors indicated in console 4 (or 3).
Console 2 shows (with ps) that the install2 process is still
running.  But it never gets to the point of scanning serial
ports, tho'.  I looked at the install2 perl script, but I'm
not a perl programmer  couldn't make much of it.  I thought
of adding echo lines to try to determine where it was, but
realized I'd have to a) change the perl, b) make a new .rdz,
c) burn another cdr of the result.  Seemed a long way around.
Is there a shorter way?
	More info.  I only hangs in 'expert', I did a full
install with the default (not hitting F1  typing expert).
	I see rc1 is here.  I shall be burning a set of cdr's
shortly and check it.

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

R. Dale Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



	I have a box that I have previously installed 9.0 from DVD.
I have made major changes in disk drives  DVD reader.  However, now
attempting an install, with the 9.0 DVD or the CD's from 9.1b3 (which
I have used to install on another box, so they are OK), everything
seems to go alright untill the loading of second stage, and after
clearing the screen and issuing the message loading second stage
it just hangs.  Nothing happens at all.  Any ideas what I should
change?



Some people seem to experience this problem. They can see I/O
errors in console #4 (Ctrl Alt F4), is it your case as well? If
so, I still don't know what kernel parameter you should try to
workaround this problem (if any). Maybe there are trouble with
your bios or with acpi/apic in our kernel :/. You may also want
to try to boot off the 2.2 kernel (F1 then alt1) and tell us if
that makes any difference.








[Cooker] Installation (RC1): Missing module ataraid !?

2003-02-18 Thread Alexander Rayborn
Hmmm... In digging deeper to my installation problems, (see bug 1802
that I posted earlier tonight) - I now see that after I select ataraid
as a module to load for my SCSI interface (which is really a PDC20276
MBFastTrak133), I see in ctrl-alt-f3 that it is complaining:

Missing module ataraid

After this, it dumps me back to the module selection screen and never
finds my hard disk.

Did this module get left out of the distribution!?

--Alexander




Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sunday February 16 2003 01:00 pm, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
  I have the same experience, ie, loading second stage hangs,
   both b2 and b3, but only if I press F1 and type 'expert'.  If I
   just hit Enter and let it do a regular install it all proceeds
   with no hesitation or problems. I don't remember if I also tried
   'expert text'. I didn't think to report it as a bug. I just
   assumed it was peculiar to my system since no else seemed to be
   complaining.
 
  What can you see on console #4? Any I/O error?
 
   This probly won't help, sorry ;(  I booted with the b3 1st CD and, 
 F1, typed in 'expert'. it hung again. Altho the cursor is blinkin 
 on the screen, the system will not respond to ctl-alt-F4, or 
 anything else  -F* for that matter (gave it 10 mins).

If it doesn't respond to Ctrl Alt F4 it means the kernel is
totally frozen :(.

What if you switch to console #4 right before the freeze? (at the
time it will start to load the ramdisk) Any interesting last
kernel messages?

On my test machine, I can see no problem booting on the CD#1 with
expert option..

   I mentioned in my previous post that it was 512 ram at cas2. It was 
 also set to 4-bank interleaving, ie, aggresive timings.  I tried 
 again with cas3, interleaving disabled, even tried underclocked to 30 
 mhz (pci) ...same deal ... hung on 'expert' loading second stage.
 Regular install option has no problems.

What if you choose default bios settings?
 
   FWIW, Soyo k7vta pro, 1.4 Tbird, sdram, kt133a-rev03 chipset. Ram is 
 old but it's a quality Crucial Micron - Mosel Vitelic 8  7.5ns CL2 
 mix, runnin at IOv 3.4. Never been a problem or presented any test 
 errors. The install CDr was in my Plextor 8-4-32t burner, a better 
 reader than my old BCD CDrom.  PSU is a Sparkle 300w, always rock 
 steady spec+ voltages.  IOW's, ram ain't the problem ;

If it's a recent machine - we're having trouble with acpi, did
you try to boot with expert acpi=off?

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-17 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday February 17 2003 07:18 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This probly won't help, sorry ;(  I booted with the b3 1st CD
  and, F1, typed in 'expert'. it hung again. Altho the cursor is
  blinkin on the screen, the system will not respond to
  ctl-alt-F4, or anything else  -F* for that matter (gave it 10
  mins).

 If it doesn't respond to Ctrl Alt F4 it means the kernel is
 totally frozen :(.

 Doesn't seem to be. If I let it sit on Loading 2nd Stage for 
several minutes and do a reboot, my cpu temps are still fairly 
normal.  And as I said, the cursor is still blinking the whole time 
the system just sits there going nowhere.

 What if you switch to console #4 right before the freeze? (at the
 time it will start to load the ramdisk) Any interesting last
 kernel messages?

 On my test machine, I can see no problem booting on the CD#1 with
 expert option..

 'alt-F4', 'crtl-alt-F4', neither works. I did as you suggested 
and tried F4 while the 1st stage was loading. It's like the keyboard 
is lost as soon as 1st stage begins to load.

I mentioned in my previous post that it was 512 ram at cas2. It
  was also set to 4-bank interleaving, ie, aggresive timings.  I
  tried again with cas3, interleaving disabled, even tried
  underclocked to 30 mhz (pci) ...same deal ... hung on 'expert'
  loading second stage. Regular install option has no problems.

 What if you choose default bios settings?

   Default is cas3 with bank-interleaving disabled, so yes, I tried 
with bios defaults, tho the ram is fully capable of more aggressive 
timings.  Has been so in several systems.

 If it's a recent machine - we're having trouble with acpi, did
 you try to boot with expert acpi=off?

   I tried 'expert acpi=off', 'expert acpi=off no apic', and 'expert 
acpi=off no apic mem=nopentium', all with the same result, the 
systems just sits doing nothing after the 2nd stage starts.

 BTW, after the system is booted normally, crtl-alt-F* does work. The 
system is almost two years old, ie, not recent.

-- 
Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas




[Cooker] Installation provides no choice for DHCP client. (I need to use dhcpcd)

2003-02-17 Thread John Allen
Also I need to use PEERYP, so the network config needs to ask about that as 
well.

Thanks.

-- 
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MandrakeClub Silver Member.





Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Monday February 17 2003 07:18 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
  Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 This probly won't help, sorry ;(  I booted with the b3 1st CD
   and, F1, typed in 'expert'. it hung again. Altho the cursor is
   blinkin on the screen, the system will not respond to
   ctl-alt-F4, or anything else  -F* for that matter (gave it 10
   mins).
 
  If it doesn't respond to Ctrl Alt F4 it means the kernel is
  totally frozen :(.
 
  Doesn't seem to be. If I let it sit on Loading 2nd Stage for 
 several minutes and do a reboot, my cpu temps are still fairly 
 normal.  And as I said, the cursor is still blinking the whole time 
 the system just sits there going nowhere.

Cursor and temperature are independant of the kernel being
frozen, AFAIK. The Ctrl Alt Fn and Num Lock and generally
better indicators (though I'm not really sure for Num Lock).
 
  What if you switch to console #4 right before the freeze? (at the
  time it will start to load the ramdisk) Any interesting last
  kernel messages?
 
  On my test machine, I can see no problem booting on the CD#1 with
  expert option..
 
  'alt-F4', 'crtl-alt-F4', neither works. I did as you suggested 
 and tried F4 while the 1st stage was loading. It's like the keyboard 
 is lost as soon as 1st stage begins to load.

Oh, do you have an USB keyboard? Then it's normal - well, not
normal, it's a kernel bug (destroying the bios PS2 keyboard
compatibility), but it's a known feature :).

The USB keyboard will be unresponsive until the usb drivers are
loaded :(.

What's strange, is that in expert mode, before the first dialog
the usb drivers should be loaded, bringing your usb keyboard back
to life. I don't understand why that's not the case, especially
since in stage2 you have access to it, that means that we do have
your usb adapter listed in our pci listings :/.
 
 I mentioned in my previous post that it was 512 ram at cas2. It
   was also set to 4-bank interleaving, ie, aggresive timings.  I
   tried again with cas3, interleaving disabled, even tried
   underclocked to 30 mhz (pci) ...same deal ... hung on 'expert'
   loading second stage. Regular install option has no problems.
 
  What if you choose default bios settings?
 
Default is cas3 with bank-interleaving disabled, so yes, I tried 
 with bios defaults, tho the ram is fully capable of more aggressive 
 timings.  Has been so in several systems.
 
  If it's a recent machine - we're having trouble with acpi, did
  you try to boot with expert acpi=off?
 
I tried 'expert acpi=off', 'expert acpi=off no apic', and 'expert 
 acpi=off no apic mem=nopentium', all with the same result, the 
 systems just sits doing nothing after the 2nd stage starts.
 
  BTW, after the system is booted normally, crtl-alt-F* does work. The 
 system is almost two years old, ie, not recent.

Sorry, I can't figure out more..

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-17 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday February 17 2003 12:39 pm, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 Oh, do you have an USB keyboard? Then it's normal - well, not
 normal, it's a kernel bug (destroying the bios PS2 keyboard
 compatibility), but it's a known feature :).

No it's a standard USA ps2 keyboard

 Sorry, I can't figure out more..

   Don't fret 'bout me :)  Only reason I spoke up at all is cause a 
few others on this list reported the same situation.  I sent beta3 
CD's to 6 others, and they're not havin the stall with 'expert' 2nd 
stage problem.  I just as soon do a recommended install anyhow ;)
-- 
Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas




Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, R. Dale Thomas wrote:

   I have a box that I have previously installed 9.0 from DVD.
 I have made major changes in disk drives  DVD reader.  However, now
 attempting an install, with the 9.0 DVD or the CD's from 9.1b3 (which
 I have used to install on another box, so they are OK), everything
 seems to go alright untill the loading of second stage, and after
 clearing the screen and issuing the message loading second stage
 it just hangs.  Nothing happens at all.  Any ideas what I should
 change?

Did you change ram? Have you tested your ram recently?
http://www.memtest86.com

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Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread R. Dale Thomas
Buchan Milne wrote:

On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, R. Dale Thomas wrote:



	I have a box that I have previously installed 9.0 from DVD.
I have made major changes in disk drives  DVD reader.  However, now
attempting an install, with the 9.0 DVD or the CD's from 9.1b3 (which
I have used to install on another box, so they are OK), everything
seems to go alright untill the loading of second stage, and after
clearing the screen and issuing the message loading second stage
it just hangs.  Nothing happens at all.  Any ideas what I should
change?



Did you change ram? Have you tested your ram recently?
http://www.memtest86.com


	Same 2Gig as the 9.0 installation was.  Only 896M recognized,
although.





Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread Chuck Burns
On Sunday 16 February 2003 4:42 am, R. Dale Thomas wrote:
*snip*
   Same 2Gig as the 9.0 installation was.  Only 896M recognized,
 although.
Forest.Gump=impersonation
I might not be a smart man, but even I know that when ya dont have all yuh 
memory showin up, it might mean yuh done got some bad ones
/Forest.Gump
-- 
Chuck Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread Buchan Milne
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Chuck Burns wrote:

 On Sunday 16 February 2003 4:42 am, R. Dale Thomas wrote:
 *snip*
  Same 2Gig as the 9.0 installation was.  Only 896M recognized,
  although.
 Forest.Gump=impersonation
 I might not be a smart man, but even I know that when ya dont have all yuh
 memory showin up, it might mean yuh done got some bad ones
 /Forest.Gump


Except maybe if it's in the region of just under 1GB, you may want to try
the enterprise kernel first ...

But I have never had so much ram to play with, most we have on a single
box is 768, my cooker box has 128 :-(

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread et
On Sunday 16 February 2003 04:07 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
 On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, R. Dale Thomas wrote:
  I have a box that I have previously installed 9.0 from DVD.
  I have made major changes in disk drives  DVD reader.  However, now
  attempting an install, with the 9.0 DVD or the CD's from 9.1b3 (which
  I have used to install on another box, so they are OK), everything
  seems to go alright untill the loading of second stage, and after
  clearing the screen and issuing the message loading second stage
  it just hangs.  Nothing happens at all.  Any ideas what I should
  change?

 Did you change ram? Have you tested your ram recently?
 http://www.memtest86.com
there are a number of possible reasons, but may i suggest that at least here 
on Cooker we try and steer each of this type of question to a more 
appropreate list like expert or newbie, in as a polite manner as is 
possible? or even ask the poster to contact us personally ratehr than risk 
this list turning into the gab-fest that the newbie list is. and lso let's 
ask if the question has been asked in other forums, since this was asked in 
the club with in the last 24 hours also, (aand was answered, maybe not as 
quickly as the poster would have liked, but thern again, a search of the 
archives would have given as many differnet answers to try as this list and 
would have been even quicker.




Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 10:42, R. Dale Thomas wrote:
 Buchan Milne wrote:
  On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, R. Dale Thomas wrote:
  
  
 I have a box that I have previously installed 9.0 from DVD.
 I have made major changes in disk drives  DVD reader.  However, now
 attempting an install, with the 9.0 DVD or the CD's from 9.1b3 (which
 I have used to install on another box, so they are OK), everything
 seems to go alright untill the loading of second stage, and after
 clearing the screen and issuing the message loading second stage
 it just hangs.  Nothing happens at all.  Any ideas what I should
 change?
  
  
  Did you change ram? Have you tested your ram recently?
  http://www.memtest86.com
  
   Same 2Gig as the 9.0 installation was.  Only 896M recognized,
 although.

Memory's like any other mechanical thing ever...it works for a while,
then breaks. Buchan was wondering if yours had broken. :). The standard
kernel doesn't support over 1G of memory, you need to use the enterprise
kernel.
-- 
adamw





Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 14:06, et wrote:
 On Sunday 16 February 2003 04:07 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
  On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, R. Dale Thomas wrote:
 I have a box that I have previously installed 9.0 from DVD.
   I have made major changes in disk drives  DVD reader.  However, now
   attempting an install, with the 9.0 DVD or the CD's from 9.1b3 (which
   I have used to install on another box, so they are OK), everything
   seems to go alright untill the loading of second stage, and after
   clearing the screen and issuing the message loading second stage
   it just hangs.  Nothing happens at all.  Any ideas what I should
   change?
 
  Did you change ram? Have you tested your ram recently?
  http://www.memtest86.com
 there are a number of possible reasons, but may i suggest that at least here 
 on Cooker we try and steer each of this type of question to a more 
 appropreate list like expert or newbie, in as a polite manner as is 
 possible? or even ask the poster to contact us personally ratehr than risk 
 this list turning into the gab-fest that the newbie list is. and lso let's 
 ask if the question has been asked in other forums, since this was asked in 
 the club with in the last 24 hours also, (aand was answered, maybe not as 
 quickly as the poster would have liked, but thern again, a search of the 
 archives would have given as many differnet answers to try as this list and 
 would have been even quicker.

The fact that it seems to happen to so many people suggests to me that
at least some of them are experiencing Mandrake bugs, which makes
discussing it legitimate on this list.
-- 
adamw





Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:56:45 -0500
et [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Heck _I_ am one of the biggest reasons the newbie list is such a
 gab-fest, 

I'll agree with that (-;


Charles

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Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday February 16 2003 08:43 am, Adam Williamson wrote:
 The fact that it seems to happen to so many people suggests to me
 that at least some of them are experiencing Mandrake bugs, which
 makes discussing it legitimate on this list.

   I've only tried installing from the last two betas (2  3). My ram, 
512mb cas2, passes all memtest86, mprime, and cpuburn tests.

  On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, R. Dale Thomas wrote:
   seems to go alright untill the loading of second stage, and 
after
   clearing the screen and issuing the message loading second 
stage
   it just hangs.  Nothing happens at all.  Any ideas what I should
   change?

   I have the same experience, ie, loading second stage hangs, both 
b2 and b3, but only if I press F1 and type 'expert'.  If I just hit 
Enter and let it do a regular install it all proceeds with no 
hesitation or problems. I don't remember if I also tried 'expert 
text'. I didn't think to report it as a bug. I just assumed it was 
peculiar to my system since no else seemed to be complaining.
-- 
Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas




Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread R. Dale Thomas
	It would have been handy to have also pointed to the places
where it was discussed as not all of us know everything even tho'
we might be experienced!

et wrote:

On Sunday 16 February 2003 04:07 am, Buchan Milne wrote:


On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, R. Dale Thomas wrote:


	I have a box that I have previously installed 9.0 from DVD.
I have made major changes in disk drives  DVD reader.  However, now
attempting an install, with the 9.0 DVD or the CD's from 9.1b3 (which
I have used to install on another box, so they are OK), everything
seems to go alright untill the loading of second stage, and after
clearing the screen and issuing the message loading second stage
it just hangs.  Nothing happens at all.  Any ideas what I should
change?


Did you change ram? Have you tested your ram recently?
http://www.memtest86.com


there are a number of possible reasons, but may i suggest that at least here 
on Cooker we try and steer each of this type of question to a more 
appropreate list like expert or newbie, in as a polite manner as is 
possible? or even ask the poster to contact us personally ratehr than risk 
this list turning into the gab-fest that the newbie list is. and lso let's 
ask if the question has been asked in other forums, since this was asked in 
the club with in the last 24 hours also, (aand was answered, maybe not as 
quickly as the poster would have liked, but thern again, a search of the 
archives would have given as many differnet answers to try as this list and 
would have been even quicker.









Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sunday February 16 2003 08:43 am, Adam Williamson wrote:
  The fact that it seems to happen to so many people suggests to me
  that at least some of them are experiencing Mandrake bugs, which
  makes discussing it legitimate on this list.
 
I've only tried installing from the last two betas (2  3). My ram, 
 512mb cas2, passes all memtest86, mprime, and cpuburn tests.
 
   On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, R. Dale Thomas wrote:
seems to go alright untill the loading of second stage, and 
 after
clearing the screen and issuing the message loading second 
 stage
it just hangs.  Nothing happens at all.  Any ideas what I should
change?
 
I have the same experience, ie, loading second stage hangs, both 
 b2 and b3, but only if I press F1 and type 'expert'.  If I just hit 
 Enter and let it do a regular install it all proceeds with no 
 hesitation or problems. I don't remember if I also tried 'expert 
 text'. I didn't think to report it as a bug. I just assumed it was 
 peculiar to my system since no else seemed to be complaining.

What can you see on console #4? Any I/O error?

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
R. Dale Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I have a box that I have previously installed 9.0 from DVD.
 I have made major changes in disk drives  DVD reader.  However, now
 attempting an install, with the 9.0 DVD or the CD's from 9.1b3 (which
 I have used to install on another box, so they are OK), everything
 seems to go alright untill the loading of second stage, and after
 clearing the screen and issuing the message loading second stage
 it just hangs.  Nothing happens at all.  Any ideas what I should
 change?

Some people seem to experience this problem. They can see I/O
errors in console #4 (Ctrl Alt F4), is it your case as well? If
so, I still don't know what kernel parameter you should try to
workaround this problem (if any). Maybe there are trouble with
your bios or with acpi/apic in our kernel :/. You may also want
to try to boot off the 2.2 kernel (F1 then alt1) and tell us if
that makes any difference.

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread R. Dale Thomas
	More info.  It hangs in 'expert' mode, but not by default.
Where do I find out about this?

R. Dale Thomas wrote:

I have a box that I have previously installed 9.0 from DVD.
I have made major changes in disk drives  DVD reader.  However, now
attempting an install, with the 9.0 DVD or the CD's from 9.1b3 (which
I have used to install on another box, so they are OK), everything
seems to go alright untill the loading of second stage, and after
clearing the screen and issuing the message loading second stage
it just hangs.  Nothing happens at all.  Any ideas what I should
change?
Dale











Re: [Cooker] Installation

2003-02-16 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday February 16 2003 01:00 pm, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 I have the same experience, ie, loading second stage hangs,
  both b2 and b3, but only if I press F1 and type 'expert'.  If I
  just hit Enter and let it do a regular install it all proceeds
  with no hesitation or problems. I don't remember if I also tried
  'expert text'. I didn't think to report it as a bug. I just
  assumed it was peculiar to my system since no else seemed to be
  complaining.

 What can you see on console #4? Any I/O error?

  This probly won't help, sorry ;(  I booted with the b3 1st CD and, 
F1, typed in 'expert'. it hung again. Altho the cursor is blinkin 
on the screen, the system will not respond to ctl-alt-F4, or 
anything else  -F* for that matter (gave it 10 mins).

  I mentioned in my previous post that it was 512 ram at cas2. It was 
also set to 4-bank interleaving, ie, aggresive timings.  I tried 
again with cas3, interleaving disabled, even tried underclocked to 30 
mhz (pci) ...same deal ... hung on 'expert' loading second stage.
Regular install option has no problems.

  FWIW, Soyo k7vta pro, 1.4 Tbird, sdram, kt133a-rev03 chipset. Ram is 
old but it's a quality Crucial Micron - Mosel Vitelic 8  7.5ns CL2 
mix, runnin at IOv 3.4. Never been a problem or presented any test 
errors. The install CDr was in my Plextor 8-4-32t burner, a better 
reader than my old BCD CDrom.  PSU is a Sparkle 300w, always rock 
steady spec+ voltages.  IOW's, ram ain't the problem ;
-- 
Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas




[Cooker] Installation

2003-02-15 Thread R. Dale Thomas
	I have a box that I have previously installed 9.0 from DVD.
I have made major changes in disk drives  DVD reader.  However, now
attempting an install, with the 9.0 DVD or the CD's from 9.1b3 (which
I have used to install on another box, so they are OK), everything
seems to go alright untill the loading of second stage, and after
clearing the screen and issuing the message loading second stage
it just hangs.  Nothing happens at all.  Any ideas what I should
change?
	Dale





[Cooker] Installation beta 3 - Servers installed

2003-02-02 Thread Brad Chamberlin
I know this was brought up before as to if we really need this
screen...and I am not sure that we do...but if we are going to keep it I
have a suggestion:

instead of listing them like cups, proftp, ..., etc I think it would
be more useful to actually list them and give a brief description of
what they are used for and what packages they selected to get them
installed...something like:

--
You are about to install the following servers 
and will be turned on by default

Deselect the ones you do not want installed:

(x) Cups:
  Printer stuff blah, blah, required for printing setup

(x) ProFtp:
   Ftp server blah, blah,


| Back || Next |

or something along those lines.  At the very least I think we should
list them and describe what they are for and what packages use them.

--Brad







Re: [Cooker] Installation beta 3 - Servers installed

2003-02-02 Thread HoytDuff
On Sunday 02 February 2003 03:41 pm, Pixel scribbled in crayon on a yellow 
legal pad:
 Brad Chamberlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  instead of listing them like cups, proftp, ..., etc I think it would
  be more useful to actually list them and give a brief description of
  what they are used for and what packages they selected to get them
  installed...something like:

 what you propose is alike services configuration. Isn't services
 configuration enough?

I think he raise a valid point. At this jucture, you are being asked to make a 
decision without being told (to the newbie, at least) what you must make the 
dicision about. (What is proftp? cups? What do they do?)

Is the discussion of the different servers and what they do available in the 
manual? If so, then perhaps just a reference to the manual, or even its 
inclusion as a Help item would suffice.

If not, then this is an area that needs further examination from a usability 
standpoint.

-- 
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http://www.maximumhoyt.com

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Re: [Cooker] Installation beta 3 - Servers installed

2003-02-02 Thread Pixel
Brad Chamberlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 instead of listing them like cups, proftp, ..., etc I think it would
 be more useful to actually list them and give a brief description of
 what they are used for and what packages they selected to get them
 installed...something like:

what you propose is alike services configuration. Isn't services
configuration enough?




[Cooker] Failed Cooker installation report

2003-01-27 Thread David Walser
If any of this should be filed in Bugzilla, let me
know.  Also I ran 'bug' and have that floppy, if
that's useful at all.

1) Font face in the active part of the installation
program is pretty inconsistent.  It's spotty and very
faded in spots.

2) License Agreement, Refuse is selected by default
o_O

3) The install program seems slower than before

4) On the package selection screen, after toggling to
flat mode and hitting the Floppy button I noticed a
few things.  First the screen is a mess.  It looks
like the header part of the window is too short,
there's some image in the top left that looks like
it's being cut off, and the text up there is being
overlapped with some text about insert a floppy. 
Actually it seems text is just kinda being written in
random locations.  The next button has a narrower and
taller Install button overlayed on top of it.  The
Floppy button once pressed doesn't ask Load from or
Save to, it immediatly pops up the box that says
Updating Package Selection, then doesn't do anything
(doesn't appear to access the floppy drive) and the
GUI installation program is totally frozen.  I can
still go to the virtual consoles.

End of story :o(

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Re: [Cooker] Installation - swap partition now a requirement

2003-01-13 Thread Pixel
Elliott Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I decided to do a clean install of 9.1b1 and have discovered that a swap
 partition is now a requirement even if you do an expert install. Could the
 installer be made to ignore the presence of a swap partition during an
 expert installation as it was before?

fixed: in all installs, you now get 

  You don't have a swap partition. Continue anyway?




[Cooker] Installation - swap partition now a requirement

2003-01-12 Thread Elliott Martin
Hello,
I decided to do a clean install of 9.1b1 and have discovered that a swap
partition is now a requirement even if you do an expert install. Could the
installer be made to ignore the presence of a swap partition during an
expert installation as it was before? I'd hate to have the installer push
me off mandrake linux :P
-Elliott






Re: [Cooker] Installation - swap partition now a requirement

2003-01-12 Thread J. Greenlees


Elliott Martin wrote:

Hello,
I decided to do a clean install of 9.1b1 and have discovered that a swap
partition is now a requirement even if you do an expert install. Could the
installer be made to ignore the presence of a swap partition during an
expert installation as it was before? I'd hate to have the installer push
me off mandrake linux :P
-Elliott


and with a journalised file system the swap partition is actually 
extremely useful, it helps avoid data loss when writing to hard drive.
from my quick looks at other ditro's they all require a swap partition 
as well, no way around it with journalised file systems.





Re: [Cooker] Installation - swap partition now a requirement

2003-01-12 Thread roger
On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 22:00, J. Greenlees wrote:
 
 
 Elliott Martin wrote:
  Hello,
  I decided to do a clean install of 9.1b1 and have discovered that a swap
  partition is now a requirement even if you do an expert install. Could the
  installer be made to ignore the presence of a swap partition during an
  expert installation as it was before? I'd hate to have the installer push
  me off mandrake linux :P
  -Elliott
 
 and with a journalised file system the swap partition is actually 
 extremely useful, it helps avoid data loss when writing to hard drive.
 from my quick looks at other ditro's they all require a swap partition 
 as well, no way around it with journalised file systems.

odd. well with  1GB of Ram systems, I thought swap wasn't really
needed.

matter of fact, my system rarely touches swap with 1GB of ram...if it
even has!  Yea, don't think i've ever used swap on a 1GB ram system.

Basically, I try to avoid using swap at all costs.  I even hate how the
kernel uses up the remaining about of ram on this laptop that has 512MB
ram and uses it as cache.  Having to end up using swap on a laptop is
somewhat power consuming!

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Re: [Cooker] installation of 9.0 beta3 fails

2002-08-26 Thread Pixel

Gabriel Zachmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 At the setup file systems stage, I get the error message
 I can't read your partition table, it's too corrupted ...!

can you give the output of fdisk -l /dev/hda ? 
and also cat /proc/partitions ?




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