Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org 3.1.1 - delivery deadline for l10n bug fixes - June 12th, 2009

[Rafaella Braconi]

On 06/12/09 11:33, Bruno GALLART wrote:

Occitan-lengadocian 's leader

Hi all,

I have loaded the file oc-090612-ui-diff.sdf for occitan. I did  " 
./gsicheck -c oc-090612-ui-diff.sdf "   and I have not a output file.  
Is it the proof that it is good ?


Best regards,
Bruno

Yes, Bruno. The files delivered are all gsichecked.

Rafaella


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[l10n-dev] Re: [l10n-tools] Re: [l10n-dev] Updates on the processes we discussed previously ?

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sophie,

- on the possibility to get the strings in Pootle updated more 
frequently and so to be able to provide more tests on our localization?
yes, this is possible. I would like to wait till the 3.1.1 is release 
and then we can start updating Pootle more frequently. Would once a 
month be ok?


I think so, but may be others can give their opinion too

yes, sure! Go ahead if you have other preferences.
- on the next version of TCM and the resolution of the issues that 
were pointed, or there won't be a next version but it is under QASTe 
further development?
I need to look into the issues and the status once more. Can you 
point me to the TCM issues?


The link for TCM wishes is here 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/TCM_wishes

Ok. I'll let you know.


- Have you made other attempts to extract files from the wiki and 
process them to be able for l10n teams to use with their tools. Do 
you have a conlusion on this process?
The wiki content can be extracted and uploaded to Pootle. We worked 
to get another machine to set up another Pootle dedicated to the wiki 
doc localization. Now, with Aijin's great support  we have a Pootle 
server set up. http://pootle3.sunvirtuallab.com/ There is some 
content in the Basic Guide project but I am not happy the way the 
content is displayed.


Thanks to Aijin too so, it looks very interesting :) and yes, I just 
have a quick look, it seems that Pootle does not like wiki templates 
or links used in the page.
BTW: Friedel is providing a patch to Aijin for this next week. So it 
seems we are doing good progress :-) .


Thanks for forwarding the answer to this list!
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Updates on the processes we discussed previously ?

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sophie,

On 06/05/09 19:49, Sophie wrote:

Hi Rafaella, all

I would like to ask for updates on several points we discussed 
previously. There is no emergency on these updates, its only my 
curiosity that pinged me :-)

yes, sure. Please see my answers below:


- on the possibility to get the strings in Pootle updated more 
frequently and so to be able to provide more tests on our localization?
yes, this is possible. I would like to wait till the 3.1.1 is release 
and then we can start updating Pootle more frequently. Would once a 
month be ok?
- on the next version of TCM and the resolution of the issues that 
were pointed, or there won't be a next version but it is under QASTe 
further development?
I need to look into the issues and the status once more. Can you point 
me to the TCM issues?
- Have you made other attempts to extract files from the wiki and 
process them to be able for l10n teams to use with their tools. Do you 
have a conlusion on this process?
The wiki content can be extracted and uploaded to Pootle. We worked to 
get another machine to set up another Pootle dedicated to the wiki doc 
localization. Now, with Aijin's great support  we have a Pootle server 
set up. http://pootle3.sunvirtuallab.com/ There is some content in the 
Basic Guide project but I am not happy the way the content is displayed.


We can talk more on this in the to...@l10n list if you like.

Thanks,
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org 3.1.1 - delivery deadline for l10n bug fixes - June 12th, 2009

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Andre,

On 06/04/09 15:50, Andre Schnabel wrote:

Hi,

 Original-Nachricht 
  

Von: Rafaella Braconi 



  
Pootle users need to carry out the fixes in Pootle. Aijin will submit 
diff files containing the fixes to release engineering on June 12th.




will the diff be done for UI only or also for HC2?

I'm done with the fixes for UI and don't want to change hlep for 3.1.1 . But I 
have some issues open with help content and juast want to know, if it is safe 
to work on this before June 12th.
  

good question: We should limit the bug fixes to UI only for this release.

Thanks,
rafaella

[l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org 3.1.1 - delivery deadline for l10n bug fixes - June 12th, 2009

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

this is a reminder that the OOo 3.1.1 is approaching and in case you 
have some important l10n fixes that you would like to see fixed in the 
3.1.1 micro release, you have the possibility to submit them by June 
12th http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease311.


Pootle users need to carry out the fixes in Pootle. Aijin will submit 
diff files containing the fixes to release engineering on June 12th.


For all others, please follow the instructions below:

*  provide sdf  diff files that contain only the fixed strings (please 
remove non translated strings or strings which have not been modified 
since 3.1 release from the sdf file)


 * the sdf file should be intact containing both the corrected  
translated strings and the corresponding en-US source strings. Remove 
untranslated or unchanged strings from the sdf file. Please note that 
the en-US strings have to be the same milestone like your translation.


   * please make sure that the GSI / SDF file format is not violated 
(format errors like wrong amount of tabs, shifted columns, ... ) by 
using "gsicheck". Please use the latest version at: 
http://ooo.services.openoffice.org/gsicheck/ usage: gsicheck -c 
myfile.sdf. In case of errors please use the log file to fix them.


   * file an issuezilla bug to "v...@openoffice.org", assign the issue to 
"v...@openoffice.org", Target milestone to "OOo 3.1.1" , Component "l10n" 
, Subcomponent "code" , Issue type "ENHANCEMENT". Please don't attach 
your file directly to the issue, but provide an URL / link pointing to 
your file. Please do attach only if you don't have any other web space 
available (http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html)


If any questions, just let me know,

Rafaella





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Re: [l10n-dev] Occitan-lengadocian 's project

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Bruno,

On 05/07/09 10:33, Bruno GALLART wrote:

Bruno
Occitan-lengadocian's co-leader

Hi all,

Normally, with the OpenOffice.org's version 3.1 it should be possible 
to have it in occitan-lengadocian (if I don't do a mistake) and I 
should like know, how the occitan's locutors will able to load it ?
Can you please read the following message and let me know if this answer 
your question?

http://l10n.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=10877

Thanks,
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] On the Back button in the Options dialog

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Petr,

On 05/07/09 23:30, Per Eriksson wrote:

Hello,

Is there any idea behind why the Reset button is called Back in the 
Options dialog?


It's called Reset in all other dialogs on the Tools menu.
To me this sounds a question for the user experience team,  cc:ed here. 
So let's move the discussion there.


Thanks for pointing this out.

Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Strings and the ~ character

[Rafaella Braconi]

Per,

On 06.05.09 16:50, Per Eriksson wrote:

Hi Rafaella,

I will address this problem as a new issue under ui (Bugs where code 
references are not avail.) and post the id of the issue here for 
tracking.


P.S In case you wonder why the Swedish string hasn't got the ~ sign in 
it, this is because it is a mistranslation from ancient times. Planned 
to be fixed for 3.2. D.S
are you talking of tilde sign that appears in the UI or the fact that 
there is no such a sign in the file translated like in Pootle? In the 
second case this is not an issue at all. I thought you wwere saying that 
you saw the tilde sign in the UI...


Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Strings and the ~ character

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Per,

On 06.05.09 16:15, Per Eriksson wrote:

Hello,

The Swedish team has a translation looking like this:

Original string:
~Save

Swedish translation:
Spara

But the underline is present in the OOo. So the displayed string IS 
"~Spara".


Why is the tilde added to the Swedish translation even if it is not in 
the string?
It sound like a bug. Can you please submit an issue for this? It would 
be helpful if could could add a screenshot  to the issue.


Thanks,
rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Translation fixes for 3.1.1?

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sophie,


I've asked during the RE meeting today if we are allowed to provide
important fixes on UI (mostly Calc functions) through a .sdf file on IZ
for 3.1.1 and it has been accepted :)
  

great news.

Rafaella, how do you want we organize the .sdf collection?
  
All changes done in Pootle will be delivered via issue. All Pootle users 
will need to make sure the critical issues are fixed by the deadline 
(which I suppose will need to be set in the next days).
All other localizers will need to deliver the major fixes as .sdf file 
to Vladimir or Ivo as usual via issue.


Once we have the l10n deadline for GUI fixes on the roadmap we can work 
on an l10n plan.


Kind Regards,
Rafaella

[l10n-dev] [Fwd: [qa-dev] New: OpenOffice.org 3.1.0 release candidate 2 (build OOO310_m11) available]

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

I am forwarding this email to you to make sure you know that a RC2 build 
is now available.
I am sure that all the ones who have worked on the translation of OOo 
are looking forward to see their builds distributed over the OOo mirrors.


Here a friendly reminder of what needs to be done to distribute the l10n 
builds:


1) run sanity check on RC l10n builds
2) update the test status on QATrack
3) set the status as APPROVED in qatrack
4) get an approved build distributed to the mirror network

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Testing_my_translation
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Release_Action_List_for_QA


 Original Message 
Subject: 	[qa-dev] New: OpenOffice.org 3.1.0 release candidate 2 (build 
OOO310_m11) available

Date:   Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:40:11 +0200
From:   Joost Andrae 
Reply-To:   d...@qa.openoffice.org
To: d...@qa.openoffice.org



Hello QA team,

OpenOffice.org 3.1.0 release candidate 2 (build OOO310_m11) which 
installs as OpenOffice.org 3.1 has been uploaded to the mirror network.


If you find severe issues within this build please file them to 
OpenOffice.org's bug tracking system IssueTracker and if you feel the 
issue is a show stopper then please notify the releases mailing list 
relea...@ooo.


Please take the following link
http://download.openoffice.org/next/index.html

If the Bouncer links that I placed within the download page do not work 
for you or if you like to download localized builds then take one of the 
mirror servers marked with an [E}) and listed at 
http://distribution.openoffice.org/mirrors/#mirrors

and take the files from the ../extended/3.1.0rc2 directory.

MD5SUMS:
http://download.openoffice.org/next/md5sums/3.1.0rc2_md5sums.txt

Kind regards, Joost

===

Regards,
rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org in Bulgarian translated at 100%

[Rafaella Braconi]

On 04/28/09 07:00, Hristo Hristov wrote:

Hello people,
I'm proud to announce that after four year of hard and continuous work, now 
the OpenOffice.org suite are 100% translated in Bulgarian :)
Now on we can concentrate on clearing of mistakes in the translation as syntax 
or translation errors and long truncated strings. Also we can turn ours 
attention to other stuff for translating as User Guides and wiki pages.
I'm happy that we can bring this great product to the ordinary Bulgarians who 
do not know English or other foreign language and can use OOo in their native 
language. Translation of the Help is a big step of a long way to spread OOo 
not only to home users but also to public services as schools, municipalities, 
administration and etc. I really hope to have some success on this field :) 


Best regards,
  
Congratulations to you and the Team! So now that the GUI is 100% 
translated you need to make sure the Bulgarian OOo verison officially 
distributed over the OOo Project mirror network.

Next l10n release is 3.2. Watch for the translation deadlines!

Kind Regards,
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] translate the Developer's Guide

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Taka,

On 04/16/09 14:23, KUBOTA, Takaya wrote:

Dear Rafaella-san and Cornell-san,

2009/4/16, Rafaella Braconi :

  

Basic Guide. Based on the results we can decide if it's worth while sharing
previous TMs. Just give me 1-2 days to look into that.
just a short update that I haven't forgot about the Developer's Guide 
you would like to translate into Japanese :-) .


Currently, we are looking into the possibility to set up a documentation 
project in Pootle and use Pootle to carry out translations and bug 
fixes. The project would be an xliff project since this is the file 
format that can be easily extracted from and published back to the wiki 
system. The advantage of this method is that previous translations won't 
be lost and it would be relatively easy to detect form version to 
version what has been changed.


I'll keep you posted as soon as we have some news.

Rafaella


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Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org's Occitan-lengadocian

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Bruno,

On 04/23/09 10:48, Bruno GALLART wrote:

Occitan-lengadocian's project

Hi all,

We have did 99% of the translation of OpenOffice's GUI in pootle. I 
should like know if it would be possible to integrate this translation 
for OpenOffice.org 3.1 ?
This is really great news. However, for 3.1 is far too late.  Next 
target is 3.2 or - if approved in the release meeting we can try to 
integrate the localization into 3.1.1


Kind Regards,
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Needs and restrictions for provideing full install sets

[Rafaella Braconi]

Btw I couldn't find the policy mentioning the 80% rule(s) in the 
archive or webpages. I know it has been referenced recently, but where...

Anybody with an URL?


This one:
http://l10n.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=7255

Rafaella


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Re: [l10n-dev] translate the Developer's Guide

[Rafaella Braconi]

Taka, Tora,

at that time the Developer's Guide was not open sourced and was authored 
in another file format. Now, it is in MediaWiki and when changing the 
format it#s very difficult to get any good results with TM leverage from 
previous versions. This is at least what I saw when we translated the 
Admin and the Basic Guide. If you want I could process the Developer's 
Guide with our internal Tools by using previous TMs as well as the TMs 
from the Admin and Basic Guide. Based on the results we can decide if 
it's worth while sharing previous TMs. Just give me 1-2 days to look 
into that.


Regards,
Rafaella

On 04/16/09 04:34, tora - Takamichi Akiyama wrote:

I wonder if we could avoid duplicated efforts.

The similar document has been already translated and available at
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/prod/so8?l=ja&a=view

 + StarOffice 8 Collection - Japanese
StarOffice 8 開発ガイド
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-1324?l=ja - January 22, 2007
  http://dlc.sun.com/pdf/819-1324/819-1324.pdf

Tora

Maho NAKATA wrote:

From: "KUBOTA, Takaya" 
Subject: [l10n-dev] translate the Developer's Guide
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:51:57 +0900


Hi all,

We, Japanese translation project, will translate
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/OpenOffice.org_Developers_Guide 


into Japanese.

Sincerely,
--
KUBOTA, Takaya



Good luck! Kubota-san!



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Re: [l10n-dev] Needs and restrictions for provideing full install sets

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Andre,

really thank you for initiating this thread to gather the requirements.
Please see my commetns below:

On 04/14/09 21:19, André Schnabel wrote:

Hi,

(please send replys to d...@l10n only)

within the last days, we had a discussion the request for providing more
ful installation packages.

The need was raised by the serbian team [1] but is valid for almost all
languages. Rafaella did forward the request to the OOo Community Council
[2].

For the Council (and I think for all of us) it's important to understand
the real needs ("we need all the builds on all platforms in all
languages" is no good answer to this ;) ) and the problems we have. So
I'd ask you to answer these questions (at least those of you who can
provide good input).

- What are the requirements of the native lang teams?
E.g. do we really need full installation sets on each platform (even
several installation sets  for some platforms). Do we need all the
packages at the same time? Do we need the files on the mirror network
... (these are just some items that come tomy mind).
I think that the requirements  should be defined based on the purpose. I 
can identify 3 major milestones:
- l10n testing: this usually happens after the translated files are 
delivered to verify the quality of the product form the l10n perspective 
before the translations get integrated into the master. For this 
purpose, CWS builds are used
- Verification of translation progress and l10n testing: some teams 
would like to see their translation efforts before the translation is 
100% completed. For this purpose, I would recommend to use developer builds
- Releasing localized builds: in order to release the builds, the 
language teams need to approve a RC build. For this purpose full 
installation sets are needed.




- What are the restrictions we have to face?
Restricted resources for distribution were mentioned - I'd lik to see
concrete numbers here. Esp. the question if these limited resources are
under our control or not is important.
Problems with limited build resources were also mentioned - I hope,
someone can provide details.


I asked some people to (temporarly) join this list, so we hopefully have
all people here to discuss the topic. And I hope, we can get to a
compromise how to improve the situation afterwards.


Best,

André


[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@l10n.openoffice.org/msg05885.html
[2] 
http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=1986



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[l10n-dev] [Fwd: [discuss] Proposal]

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Belayneh,

I am forwarding your initial message to both the l10n and 
native-language mailing lists.

Let me welcome you to the OOo Localization project!
I saw you already registered to the l10n project and requested Oromo to 
be added to Pootle and it seems you and the team are ready to start :-) .
Would you mind adding the native-language project information at: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Languages?


Thanks a lot and do not hesitate to ask questions! We are all here to 
help and support each other.


Kind Regards,
Rafaella
--

Proposal of translating Openoffice to Oromo Language

   This proposal is about creating NLC project for Oromo Language. It addresses 
3 isues.About the target language, the project goal, and Our team.
   
 The target language

   Oromo Language(called Afaan Oromoo by the native speakers) is the first most 
spoken language in Ehiopia(more than 50%) and the horn of africa.Within Africa, 
it is
the language with the fourth most speakers(more than 40 million), after
Arabic, Swahili, Hausa. In addition to Ethiopia, it is spoken in Kenya, 
Somalia, Djibuti, Tanzania and many countries in the rest of the world. It is 
written with modified latin alphabet called Qubee.
  
Although spoken widely, this language is used by people who live in the

poor part of the world(daily income of less than $2 per person). So the
translation of Openoffice to this language is very significant for this
people.

   The Project Goal
   Our team

needs the openoffice Writer to be translated to Afaan Oromoo, Inside
the Native Language Confederation.We wish to register a level two
project. We have also already established a team of contributors for
this project.
   
   The team

   The Project initiators are from Ethiopia.All team members use Oromo Language 
as
their first language. Our team comprizes:Dawit ..(the cordinator of
this project) - Bsc. degree in Linguistics and Litrature. Has done lots
of thesis on Afaan Oromoo.He is committed to act as a responsible
entrepreneur and inspired many Afaan Oromo speaking people to
participate in this project. Belayneh Melka, Bsc. degree in Electrical 
Engineering. Has developed some Applications and Database Systems in Afaan 
Oromoo.In addtion, some students and teachers of Addis Ababa University 
Department of Oromo Language will participate on this project.

About the project:

   Information for setting up the project:

   Username: barreessaa
   Project Name: om
   ISO code: om


 



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Re: [l10n-dev] Serbian OOo install sets for 3.1

[Rafaella Braconi]

On 04/07/09 19:46, sophie wrote:

Hi Rafaella,
Rafaella Braconi wrote:
  

I perfectly agree that the current situation is not satisfactory at
all. As
for the space issue, I've sent out a message to the Council to
describe the
current situation:
http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=1986
Unfortunately, I did not receive any answer to that posting.



See
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council_Log_20090326
and read messages between 17:17:00 and 17:19:40.
They are trying :)  I hope you get answer soon.
  
  

Really thank you for finding and providing this information in this
jungle of mails and meetings :-) !



Sorry for not reporting here that your point was not discussed during
the last meeting (time is so rare...). But I'll take care that we begin
by this on the next meeting.
  

Thank you Sophie. Great to know you're monitoring this.

Rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] Serbian OOo install sets for 3.1

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Goran,

On 04/06/09 17:26, Goran Rakic wrote:

У пон, 06. 04 2009. у 19:38 +0200, Ivo Hinkelmann пише:
  

Hi,

how far is the translation status of sr / sh in helpcontent2?

Cheers,
Ivo



0% committed, about 16% in local SVN repository.
UI is at 100% so installation is fully localized.

Not providing localized installation sets will require from users to
install software on English before applying language packs or to use our
custom build version without all features.

Now there is enough space on bouncer mirrors I don't see why we can't
make install sets for every language with UI > 80%.

We can provide space for hosting a mirror if necessary.
  
I perfectly agree that the current situation is not satisfactory at all. 
As for the space issue, I've sent out a message to the Council to 
describe the current situation:

http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=1986
Unfortunately, I did not receive any answer to that posting.

Best Regards,
Rafaella

[l10n-dev] Developers, Basic and Administration Guides

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

based on a request from the Japanese team :-) , I am writing you some 
information about the Developer's, Basic and Administration Guides.


They are available at:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/BASIC_Guide
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/OpenOffice.org_Developers_Guide

Whereas the Developer's Guide is available in Simplified Chinese (great 
work from the Chinese Team!), The Admin and Basic Guide are available in 
Simplified Chinese, Japanese and French.
The Japanese Team has asked if they could start reviewing the Basic 
Guide and what would be the best procedure.


I am opening the relative  information to you all, so that in 
case of interest you can follow up and contribute to the discussion.


For the above guides if you wish you can contribute to linguistic 
review, content review and to update the content to reflect the latest 
updates.
There is no translation work going on and - as I have been told - there 
have been a few changes in the Admin Guide. In case of interest, what you need to do is to 
talk to your native-language team to make sure to coordinate the work 
with the other team members.


In case some team would like to start translating one of the guide the 
basics are:


1. Let the doc community know that a translation is starting -
especially if it's a new language being translated to.
2. Follow the wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/XX/Documentation/
structure when creating new translated pages of the English original
content. If translating TO English from another source language, we
will have to manage that separately.
3. Add the IntraWiki links for translated pages - this process can be
handled/explained when a new translation is announced.
4. The associated templates will need to be translated along with the
main document text (particularly any TOC templates - the Master TOC
template is translated once per language and the book specific template
is translated per book).

Other than that, you should be able to do the translations in whatever
process you prefer... as long as the pages posted back to the Wiki
match the structure of the English one for consistency.


If any questions, please do not hesitate to ask!

Kind Regards,
Rafaella



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Re: [l10n-dev] For Italian group : issue 92615

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Stefan,



Andrea, within issue 92615, please not my comment about "Controllo 
on/off" and such - That looks like "British Italian" to me :-)

that's correct and not strange to Italians :-) .

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Re: [l10n-dev] Links to wiki in OLH failed localization

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sophie,

On 03/29/09 15:24, sophie wrote:

Hi all,

In OOo help, some links are pointing to wiki pages, see for example
"spellcheck;checking spelling manually" as two link at the bottom of the
page :
Wiki page: Adding more languages
Wiki page: Multiple language spellcheckin.
However they appears in English in my FR version where links are
correclty translated in the .po file

#: spellcheck_dialog.xhp#par_id9625843.help.text
msgid "http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Adding_More_Languages\";>Wiki
page: Adding more languages"
msgstr "http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FR/Ajouter_des_langues\";>Page
du Wiki: Ajouter des langues"

#: spellcheck_dialog.xhp#par_id1683706.help.text
msgid "http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Spellchecking_in_More_Languages\";>Wiki
page: Multiple language spellchecking"
msgstr "http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FR/Corrections_dans_plusieurs_langues\";>Page
du Wiki : Corrections dans plusieurs langues"

Is it because links translation is not supported ?
  
I believe that the link translation is supported, in that sense that if 
the link in the target does not correspond to the link in the source the 
format should still be considered valid by the gsi verification check. I 
am cc:ing ufi here to see if he can add anything else to what I just said.


Regards,
Rafaella


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Re: [l10n-dev] Translation fixes for 3.1.1?

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi,

On 03/24/09 20:00, Goran Rakic wrote:

У уто, 24. 03 2009. у 19:23 +0100, André Schnabel пише:
  
But if possible, it would be welcome to have a l10n bugfix cycle for 
3.1.1.

Usually, the micro releases are not translation relevant releases. The 
focus is to fix function bugs. However, if there is a need to see 
translation errors fixed in the 3.1.1 release, I'd be happy to bring 
this up during our next release meeting.


I'll keep you posted on the results.

Kind Regards,
Rafaella



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Re: [l10n-dev] New coordinator for Japanese Language Project's translation project

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hirano san,



I would like to introduce Takaya Kubota, new ja translation project
coordinator who will lead Japanese translation team.
  

[...]

really thank you for letting me know and let me congratulate Takaya 
Kubota  for taking over this new role.


Kind Regards,
Rafaella


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Re: [l10n-dev] Last l10n fixes for OOo 3.1 release

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Goran,

On 05/03/2009 01:18, Goran Rakic wrote:

У сре, 04. 03 2009. у 12:43 +0100, Rafaella Braconi пише:
  
we can accept only fixes that is to say diff files - not complete sdf 
files to be imported. Also make sure to run gsi check before

deliverying - even if the file is a small one.



Hi Rafaella,

I asked this several times already but nobody gave me an answer.
How should I prepare SDF diff files? What should be included?
  
The sdf file should include the English source and target string which 
has been modified. The format of the sdf files should not be changed.

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1#How_to_deliver_translated_files


What is the meaning of number in column 6 of SDF file and should I
ignore it while preparing diff?
  
Please do not modify the number of the columns. To make sure the foramt 
is not corrupt, please run gsicke and fix possible errors before delivering.

Is there some tool that can generate clean diff out of two full SDF
files?
  

Ivo, Aijin: any recommendation?

Thanks,
Rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] l10n fixes and integration process

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sophie,

On 04.03.09 16:58, sophie wrote:

Hi Rafaella,
Rafaella Braconi wrote:
  

Hi Sophie,


ok, I miss that part. I think that I will write a FAQ for those very
important parts that can be forgot from one localization round to
another. Do you think it could be useful ? Something like
- Do I submit a complete .sdf
- To whom do I assign the issue
- when do I open an issue
- where is gsicheck
- is it possible to gsicheck on Pootle
- etc.
  
  

well, we do have already wikis such as
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1
where you can find information on how to deliver sdf, where to find
gsicheck 

and a checklist:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/NLC:ReleaseChecklist

Instead of creating a new one, we could add the missing information or
even thinking of restructuring the current ones



Yes, you're right there is already all the needed information. I guess I
need to put some reminders on my own list ;)
  

  

Yes, sure. The current process is far from perfect and I'm thankful for
any idea that can help us simplifying it :-)
Just 3 ideas that come into my mind are:

1) the sdf file that needs to be corrected is the sdf file which results
out of the gsi check. In order not to have to fix those errors both in
pootle and in the sdf, I would encourage all teams to use the
verification checks in Pootle. And I am sure that we can ask to
customize these checks...



ok. However under the Chek option in Pootle there is a lot of check that
can be made, and some are shown as errors however it's language
dependent. What are the most important?
  
  

the important verification checks are currently reported in the Pootle
User Guide:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide#Verification_checks



Thank you, I missed also this list it seems.
  
It's me to thank you. I think that all will benefit form the good points 
you raised.


Kind Regards,
Rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] l10n fixes and integration process

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sophie,


ok, I miss that part. I think that I will write a FAQ for those very
important parts that can be forgot from one localization round to
another. Do you think it could be useful ? Something like
- Do I submit a complete .sdf
- To whom do I assign the issue
- when do I open an issue
- where is gsicheck
- is it possible to gsicheck on Pootle
- etc.
  
well, we do have already wikis such as 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1
where you can find information on how to deliver sdf, where to find 
gsicheck 


and a checklist:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/NLC:ReleaseChecklist

Instead of creating a new one, we could add the missing information or 
even thinking of restructuring the current ones
  
  

Yes, sure. The current process is far from perfect and I'm thankful for
any idea that can help us simplifying it :-)
Just 3 ideas that come into my mind are:

1) the sdf file that needs to be corrected is the sdf file which results
out of the gsi check. In order not to have to fix those errors both in
pootle and in the sdf, I would encourage all teams to use the
verification checks in Pootle. And I am sure that we can ask to
customize these checks...



ok. However under the Chek option in Pootle there is a lot of check that
can be made, and some are shown as errors however it's language
dependent. What are the most important?
  
the important verification checks are currently reported in the Pootle 
User Guide:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide#Verification_checks


Thanks,
Rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] Last l10n fixes for OOo 3.1 release

[Rafaella Braconi]

On 04.03.09 13:38, Paolo Pozzan wrote:

Scrive Rafaella Braconi :

[cut]
  

For Pootle users: we will be delivering the diffs to ihi for all
languages hosted on Pootle on sunvirtuallab.


[cut]

Just to be sure... That means we do not have to do nothing, right?
  
Correct. However, we will need you to verify the integration of the 
latest fixes in the release candidate builds


Thanks,
Rafaella

[l10n-dev] Last l10n fixes for OOo 3.1 release

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

this is a reminder that today COB is the deadline to submit the last 
l10n fixes.


If you have any please do submit an issue, category l10n and assign it 
to ihi pointing to the sdf files containing the fixes. Please note that 
we can accept only fixes that is to say diff files - not complete sdf 
files to be imported. Also make sure to run gsi check before deliverying 
- even if the file is a small one.


For Pootle users: we will be delivering the diffs to ihi for all 
languages hosted on Pootle on sunvirtuallab.


Thanks,
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Sardinian language issue sent

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Valter,

On 03/03/09 17:38, Valter Mura wrote:

Hi all,

yesterday I submitted the issue for the addition of Sardinian language in 
ln10, while today I sent the issue for the local data file.


Is it now possible to ask for the addition in Pootle? If so, may I have a link 
for the steps to follow?
  
yes, sure. Can we follow up the Pootle question on 
to...@l10n.openoffice.org?


Thanks,
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] l10n fixes and integration process

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sophie,

thank you for this email with great feedback and thoughts. Please see my 
comments below:


On 02/28/09 13:29, sophie wrote:

Hi Rafaella, Ivo, all

I would like to know how the integration of our changes on Pootle will
be done. Just to understand and try to figure if we could have a better
process.
  
The integration of translated files is the same no matter if 
translations are carried out in Pootle or in SDF files directly. As you 
know we deliver the translations to release engineerings accoring to the 
release map and translation schedule (taking into account possible 
changes to the schedule which are discussed in the release meetings).

Last time for the 3.0 changes I've done in time in the cws for the UI
were not integrated, see this issues for example:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=91864
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=91863
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=91847
  
As far as I can see in the above issues, the changes have been carries 
out in Pootle, but has Ivo or Vladimir got the strings with the changes? 
As far as I can see they did not get notified.
That means that after the translation delivery deadline  has passed and 
you want to provide some additional fixes, the changes have to be be 
integrated in the CWS. How:
submit an issue (as you did) and assign it to Aijin, and cc: fma, vg and 
ihi asking to have the fixes integrated.



And I've to wait since August 08 to see the correction in March or April
09...
  
So what would be the best for the l10n teams to make sure the

corrections are integrated and for the integration team to have less
hurdle and missing risks, considering the short time and the emergency
of our fixes:

- work only on a clean .sdf file (the complete one we have on the issue
is not clean as some corrections have been integrated after gsicheck)
and provide the corrections via a .sdf containing the corrections only

- work only on Pootle (but as seen above some corrections are left
apart) so there is may be an integration issue to solve here

- work on .po files provided through an issue (we did that at the very
begining if I remember well

- ?

Currently the process I use is to correct first the .po files, then
upload them in Pootle, then correct the .sdf file, then create a new
.sdf file, not to mention that I've not yet filled issues to track the
changes and see if they are fixed in the master. It's a lot of
duplicated work and I'm sure that we can enhance that way of work for
all teams implied in the process.
  
Yes, sure. The current process is far from perfect and I'm thankful for 
any idea that can help us simplifying it :-)

Just 3 ideas that come into my mind are:

1) the sdf file that needs to be corrected is the sdf file which results 
out of the gsi check. In order not to have to fix those errors both in 
pootle and in the sdf, I would encourage all teams to use the 
verification checks in Pootle. And I am sure that we can ask to 
customize these checks...
Advantage: by using sdf verification checks in Pootle, translators would 
avoid to fix gsi check errors in sdf files.
2) from now on we will be delivering to release engineering diffs files 
only via web interface. That means that the verification of translation 
integration both in case of major handoffs or later l10n fixes could be 
done by using these diffs without the need of submitting lots of l10n 
issues.
Advantage: sdf diff files can be used to check if latest translations or 
corrections have been delivered and integrated on CWS correctly.
3) l10n fixes will be delivered by the l10n fixes deadline without prior 
request to release engineering
Advantage: no additional request/issue need to be submitted to deliver 
l10n fixes. However, please not that anything after the last l10n fixes 
delivery will not be included and that for anything that needs our 
attention an issue still needs to be submitted.


Would the 3 above points help reducing duplication?

Thanks,
Rafaella


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Re: [l10n-dev] New cws localisation35 builds are uploading

[Rafaella Braconi]

Ivo,

On 02/25/09 17:37, Goran Rakic wrote:

У сре, 25. 02 2009. у 16:05 +0100, Ivo Hinkelmann - Sun Germany - пише:
  

i98446 a new fix for some Serbian Latin (sh) Localization strings. The
new fix came in too late thus I wasn't able to integrate it in time



i98445 for Serbian Cyrillic (sr) is not integrated either.

Do I have to prepare and send diffs like Rafaella wrote in another
thread or SDF file in i98445 and i98446 is good enough?
  

can you please look into this and let Goran know what needs to be done?

Thanks,
rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice Translation in Songhay (Mali)

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Abdoul Cisse,

On 02/25/09 16:23, Abdoul Cisse wrote:

Hello again,

I would also like to add to my previous message, that I have created an
account on : http://pootle.sunvirtuallab.com/

And also that we  do have some translation memory files .tmx made from
OmegaT of our previous translations as well as a glossary file compiled from
those translations, that we would hope to be able to use in the current
project.
Any help would be highly appreciated.

While awaiting the instructions/suggestions , I would like thank you again
in advance.
  

thank you for your interest in using Pootle.
Please subscribe the to...@l10n.openoffice.org mailing list to follow up 
on what needs to be done.


Thanks,
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] changed strings in 310_m2

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Goran,

On 02/24/09 10:37, Goran Rakic wrote:
У уто, 24. 02 2009. у 10:22 +0100, Rafaella Braconi пише: 
  

Hi Goran and all Localizers,

during yersterday's release meeting it was decided that the new string 
detected on m2 will be removed as masterfix for m3 .
That means that you don't need to update your translations with the new 
strings that came in with the m2.



Hi,

Can we still fix errors in our translation? It would be great if new SDF
files can be integrated into next localization CWS.
  
yes. Since the testing deadline has been extended to March 5th we will 
accept l10n fixed until then.  However, the sooner the better.
Also, please deliver only diffs: SDF files containng the fixes only and 
comment in the issues that you're providing l10n fixes.


Thanks,
Rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] changed strings in 310_m2

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Goran and all Localizers,

during yersterday's release meeting it was decided that the new string 
detected on m2 will be removed as masterfix for m3 .
That means that you don't need to update your translations with the new 
strings that came in with the m2.


New l10n CWS builds will be ready by tomorrow. Next testing deadline is 
March 5th.


The minutes of the release status meeting can be found at:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ReleaseStatus_Minutes#2009-02-23

Kind Regards,
Rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] MacOSX INTEL/PPC aqua version of DEV300_m40+localization35 have been uploaded

[Rafaella Braconi]

Really thank you for your support!

Rafaella

On 02/19/09 02:23, Maho NAKATA wrote:

Hi,

I have just uploaded MacOSX version of DEV300_m40+localization35 of
INTEL/PPC at good-day.


ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/Dev_DEV300_m40_localization35/
http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/Dev_DEV300_m40_localization35/
http://mirror.unlogisch.ch/ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/
ftp://mirror.unlogisch.ch/ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/


http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/cws.ShowCWS?Path=DEV300%2Flocalization35


Genreal: #i98513# : readlicense_oo: unmatched " build error
 #i98550# : parallel build breaks in dictionaries/hu_HU
Intel  : -
PowerPC: -


PPC (2.3GHz G5 dual two parallel build) 22.2h
Intel (1.83GHz Core Duo parallel build) 14.5h


I noticed the number of localized packages are growing.
   Original DEV300_m40: 93
DEV300_m40+localization35: 103
Great translation efforts!


http://qa.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=11816
http://qa.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=11817


http://qa.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=11818
http://qa.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=11821
http://qa.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=11828


MD5 (BrOo_Dev_DEV300_m40_localization35_MacOSXIntel_install_pt-BR.dmg) = 
e93a90a86f01be1beb77de1cd751d64b
MD5 (OOo_Dev_DEV300_m40_localization35_MacOSXIntel_SDK_install_en-US.dmg) = 
0d99f796a8be90cab246a46db28a7ab7
MD5 (OOo_Dev_DEV300_m40_localization35_MacOSXIntel_install.dmg) = 
c30ffd74e9a778f568acc3d1ae429ad2
MD5 (OOo_Dev_DEV300_m40_localization35_MacOSXIntel_install_af.dmg) = 
74938069820b9cbfb6861663704e4bf3
MD5 (OOo_Dev_DEV300_m40_localization35_MacOSXIntel_install_ar.dmg) = 
42d88eabfa9463dc6bac3018f69967fc
MD5 (OOo_Dev_DEV300_m40_localization35_MacOSXIntel_install_as-IN.dmg) = 
149de9fb628bf7e0e8a4de1d01bc32d2
MD5 (OOo_Dev_DEV300_m40_localization35_MacOSXIntel_install_be-BY.dmg) = 
b17060bd29e225c5d314bf814e639e07
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e9747f9f5cf26054d856f4782fdd4ce4
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cb95e171c340b8b46df36792961646c5
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MD5 (OOo_Dev_DEV300_m40_localization35_MacOSXIntel_inst

Re: [l10n-dev] L10n CWS35 builds available to test

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Goran,

Goran Rakic ha scritto:

У уто, 17. 02 2009. у 10:06 +0100, Rafaella Braconi пише:
  
In case of other issues, please do shout ... as others have already 
started do to so :-) . All issue reported via mailing list (d...@l10n)

or via issue - category l10n -  are being monitored and verified.



I am shouting! :)

#99313: localization35: "sh" Installation Preparation is not localized
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=99313

Serbian Latin (sh) Installation Preparation is not localized in cws 
localization35 but translation is present in integrated SDF. Native

OpenOffice.org MSI installer is localized.


#99316: localization35: Serbian (sr and sh) unistallation wrong codepage
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=99316

Serbian Cyrillic (sr) and Serbian Latin (sh) unistallations uses wrong
codepage and text is not readable. As unistall can finish without user
input, and most users won't see it anyway ;) I don't see this one as
blocker but it will be nice if we can solve it in the future.

  

thank you for reporting the above issues.

Question: Where should I mark these localization35 cws builds as
APPROVED after doing Sanity check? I can not find them in QATrack.
  
In QA Track you should approve Release Candidate builds after sanity 
check. As for l10n builds it's important to provide feedback and to tell 
us simply GO that we can go ahead.


Thanks,
Rafaella


Regards,
Goran Rakic
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Re: [l10n-dev] Integration error : remove property

[Rafaella Braconi]

Thank you, Andras.

I'll keep you posted on what happened.

Rafaella

On 17/02/09 12:58, Andras Timar wrote:

2009.02.17. 12:31 keltezéssel, Rafaella Braconi írta:

Hi Andras,

On 17/02/09 12:19, Andras Timar wrote:

2009.02.17. 11:49 keltezéssel, sophie írta:

Hi,

Another string not integrated :


I found 160 differences between Hungarian localization35 CWS and the
delivered SDF file. :( l10n developers, please check your tools.

it would be great to have the diff to see what happened.


http://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/loc35-hu-diff.html

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Re: [l10n-dev] Integration error : remove property

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Andras,

On 17/02/09 12:19, Andras Timar wrote:

2009.02.17. 11:49 keltezéssel, sophie írta:

Hi,

Another string not integrated :


I found 160 differences between Hungarian localization35 CWS and the 
delivered SDF file. :( l10n developers, please check your tools.

it would be great to have the diff to see what happened.

Rafaella


Thanks,
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[l10n-dev] Re: [qa-dev] Re: [l10n-dev] L10n CWS35 builds available to test

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Naoyuki,

do you have machines to test Mac platform?

Rafaella

On 17/02/09 10:57, Naoyuki Ishimura wrote:

Hi Rafaella,

Can I ask MacOS X (Intel) version?

Thanks,
Naoyuki

Rafaella Braconi wrote:

Sorry for got the link where to find the l10n builds :-)

http://ooo.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/cws/upload/localization/localization35/ 



On 17/02/09 10:06, Rafaella Braconi wrote:

Hi,

with some delay over the schedule, you can find l10n CWS builds 
containing the translations you delivered within the February 9th 
deadline, either via issue or via Pootle.


Please do verify if there are any major issues with the l10n builds 
before we integrate the CWS into the master.


In TCM there is a test scenario called "OpenOffice.org - Office 
Suites(3.1)" which contains test cases specific for 3.1 new features.
Remember that based on the people who can test and the time that you 
can spend on testing, you can decide whether to go through all test 
cases (which would take approx. 1 week for ! person testing all day) 
or to test only a few scenarios or even only Sanity testing. A 
sanity check is the minimum requirement to give the go or no go to 
your build.


Please provide l10n fixes (in case any) by February 26th (the 
earlier the better) by delivering .sdf files with the changed 
strings ONLY and the correspondent English strings or indicating if 
you have corrected the translations in Pootle.


In case of other issues, please do shout ... as others have already 
started do to so :-) . All issue reported via mailing list 
(d...@l10n) or via issue - category l10n -  are being monitored and 
verified.


Detailed information on Sanity check can be found at: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Sanity_Check_Of_L10n_Builds


Please remember that in oder to see your l10n build officially 
distributed over the OpenOffice.org project mirrors, you need to 
complete the following 4 steps:


1) run sanity check on RC l10n builds
2) update the test status on QATrack
3) set the status as APPROVED in qatrack
4) get an approved build distributed to the mirror network

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Testing_my_translation
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Release_Action_List_for_QA

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Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] L10n CWS35 builds available to test

[Rafaella Braconi]

Sorry for got the link where to find the l10n builds :-)

http://ooo.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/cws/upload/localization/localization35/

On 17/02/09 10:06, Rafaella Braconi wrote:

Hi,

with some delay over the schedule, you can find l10n CWS builds 
containing the translations you delivered within the February 9th 
deadline, either via issue or via Pootle.


Please do verify if there are any major issues with the l10n builds 
before we integrate the CWS into the master.


In TCM there is a test scenario called "OpenOffice.org - Office 
Suites(3.1)" which contains test cases specific for 3.1 new features.
Remember that based on the people who can test and the time that you 
can spend on testing, you can decide whether to go through all test 
cases (which would take approx. 1 week for ! person testing all day) 
or to test only a few scenarios or even only Sanity testing. A sanity 
check is the minimum requirement to give the go or no go to your build.


Please provide l10n fixes (in case any) by February 26th (the earlier 
the better) by delivering .sdf files with the changed strings ONLY and 
the correspondent English strings or indicating if you have corrected 
the translations in Pootle.


In case of other issues, please do shout ... as others have already 
started do to so :-) . All issue reported via mailing list (d...@l10n) 
or via issue - category l10n -  are being monitored and verified.


Detailed information on Sanity check can be found at: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Sanity_Check_Of_L10n_Builds


Please remember that in oder to see your l10n build officially 
distributed over the OpenOffice.org project mirrors, you need to 
complete the following 4 steps:


1) run sanity check on RC l10n builds
2) update the test status on QATrack
3) set the status as APPROVED in qatrack
4) get an approved build distributed to the mirror network

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Testing_my_translation
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Release_Action_List_for_QA

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Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] changed strings in 310_m1

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Andras,

On 17/02/09 09:14, Andras Timar wrote:

2009.02.16. 21:31 keltezéssel, André Schnabel írta:


The new string is in pootle and also in the sdf file that has been
delivered. So - seems like an error during integration. How should we
exactly report this?
And more important to me - do we have to test each string if it has been
integrated correctly?


This would be wasting of community resources, i.e. if all language 
teams checked the whole UI.

I fully agree that this is not the right approach.
I think there should be an extra checking step after integration: 
extract SDF file from the sources and compare to the one that has been 
delivered. I'll probably do this for Hungarian, but it would be 
better, if it could be done by engineers, because they could fix right 
away, if there were differences.
Actually, if there are differences between the sdf files you delivered 
and the one you extract out of the l10n CWS35, it means  - to me - that 
the merge or integration process has not worked correctly and that the 
merge/integration issues should be fixed by release engineering.


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Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] changed strings in 310_m1

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi André,

On 16/02/09 21:31, André Schnabel wrote:

Hi,

Rafaella Braconi schrieb:


L10n builds should be available any moment.


Found it on the servers (and could not help downloading it).

I did just a few very quick tests and already found an error.  In 
Tools - Extras, OOo  - Fonts  the string under the  list box  should read
"Schrifteinstellungen für HTML-, Basic- und SQL-Quelltexte" (Font 
settings for HTML, Basic and SQL sources).


German UI still shows the old string "Schrifteinstellungen für HTML- 
und Basic-Quelltexte".


The new string is in pootle and also in the sdf file that has been 
delivered. So - seems like an error during integration. How should we 
exactly report this?
thank you for reporting via mailing list. Verification of what happend 
is in progress.
And more important to me - do we have to test each string if it has 
been integrated correctly?

No. That's not very effective

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Rafaella

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[l10n-dev] L10n CWS35 builds available to test

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi,

with some delay over the schedule, you can find l10n CWS builds 
containing the translations you delivered within the February 9th 
deadline, either via issue or via Pootle.


Please do verify if there are any major issues with the l10n builds 
before we integrate the CWS into the master.


In TCM there is a test scenario called "OpenOffice.org - Office 
Suites(3.1)" which contains test cases specific for 3.1 new features.
Remember that based on the people who can test and the time that you can 
spend on testing, you can decide whether to go through all test cases 
(which would take approx. 1 week for ! person testing all day) or to 
test only a few scenarios or even only Sanity testing. A sanity check is 
the minimum requirement to give the go or no go to your build.


Please provide l10n fixes (in case any) by February 26th (the earlier 
the better) by delivering .sdf files with the changed strings ONLY and 
the correspondent English strings or indicating if you have corrected 
the translations in Pootle.


In case of other issues, please do shout ... as others have already 
started do to so :-) . All issue reported via mailing list (d...@l10n) or 
via issue - category l10n -  are being monitored and verified.


Detailed information on Sanity check can be found at: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Sanity_Check_Of_L10n_Builds


Please remember that in oder to see your l10n build officially 
distributed over the OpenOffice.org project mirrors, you need to 
complete the following 4 steps:


1) run sanity check on RC l10n builds
2) update the test status on QATrack
3) set the status as APPROVED in qatrack
4) get an approved build distributed to the mirror network

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Testing_my_translation
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Release_Action_List_for_QA

Thanks,
Rafaella

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Re: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Adding new language in openoffice pootle

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Tenzin,

On 16/02/09 05:11, Tenzin Dendup wrote:

Hi Aijin,

I am still waiting for a reply from you regarding upload/addition of
Dzongkha translations to OO pootle.
  

you're language has already been uploaded:
Dzongkha http://pootle2.sunvirtuallab.com/dz/
For further details, please follow up in the to...@l10n list.

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Re: [l10n-dev] Re:[l10n-dev] Suggestion for Sardinian Localization Project

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Valter,

looking forward to see the Sardinian OOo version :-) . I hope all your 
questions have been answered so far.


Please let me know if you need any further support.

Thanks,
Rafaella

On 14/02/09 11:45, charles-h.schulz wrote:

Valter,

Please feel free to propose a NL project when you'll feel ready. The guidelines 
are explained here http://native-lang.openoffice.org and in more details here: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main/NLC

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Re: [l10n-dev] changed strings in 310_m1

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sophie,
Yes, it seems that we are still waiting for Arabic localization. 
Actually, there will be a new CWS to integrate the remaining Arabic 
localization to minimize the impact on the l0n build testing.


L10n builds should be available any moment.

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Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Entire Vietnamese translation cross review

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Nguyen Vu Hung,

On 02/12/09 06:23, Nguyen Vu Hung wrote:

Hello all,

12 of our Vietnamese team members will do a cross review against
the entire Vietnamese translation which is available on pootle.

The target is 3.1 so we have one month until the deadline.
  
Not really. The last date for l10n fixes is actually February 26th. What 
you can fix by then will be integrated into the 3.1 release - which is 
the content that is available on Pootle. All other improvements will be 
for 3.2.
The review process is a very long task ... so the earlier you start the 
better :-) .


There are many ways of approaching review. So depending on the time and 
resources you have at your disposal you may want to review in one way or 
the other. Of course it also depends on the current language quality of 
the translation.


Going through one strings after the other in Pootle may be very good 
from the translation perspective, but it is very time consuming
If I may suggest something  I would first of all review the GUI and 
define the GUI terminology. Once the GUI terminology is well defined, I 
would go and fix it first in the GUI and then in the Help.


How can this be done?
With the testtool there is the possibility of automatically creating 
screen shots of all GUI dialogs. Once the screen shots are generated, 
you/your team can start reviewing them. What needs to be changed should 
then be reported in table in a wiki. Once you/the team agrees on the 
changes and on the terminology, you can then go ahead and carry out the 
changes in Pootle.
IMHO, the advantage of starting with this approach is that you fix the 
errors in the context and to fix the major issues that a user would see 
at first. Also you get screeshots of dialogs which you would not usually 
sere if you are not familiar which a particular OOo function.


Just let me know if this approach would work for you.

Kind Regards,
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] cws readme31 and b and c = last minute edits

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Frank,

really thank you for the detailed explanation.

Sophie,

changes in the Readme are very difficult to plan. They  come in very 
late in the release schedule, if at all.
In the Release Map for 3.1, I made sure to clearly have a deadline for 
last l10n bug fixes delivery: February 26th, 2009.
This is the door I wanted to have opened for l10n fixes which may come 
as result out of l10n testing or some very latest and minimal changes, 
for example in the Readme.


If you have any concerns about this procedure just let me know.

Kind Regards,
rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Register Latvian lokalization project at Pottle

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Viesturs,

On 02/09/09 15:36, Viesturs Zarins wrote:

Hello Aijin and others,

I'm Viesturs Zarins, the new lead for OpenOffice localization project 
for Latvian language.
welcome on board :-) . Can you may be tell us when the lead change 
happened? Also, would you reflect such changes in our wiki page at: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Languages

It is really important to have those information updated.


I'm currently taking over the project. The previous effort was all but 
dead for about 3 yeas and much has changed since then.
Currently I have successfully merged the old translations with the new 
R40 pot files. We have completed all Writer files (SW folder) and 
would like to test the result.
Current PO files are available from Latvian project CVS: 
http://lv.openoffice.org/source/browse/lv/src/po/ .


The old process seems very cumbersome and I would like to move the 
project over to Pootle.

yes. Sure. Aijin will take care of this.
Also I would like to know how much do we need to translate before some 
initial builds can be made?

Usually, we start providing language packs with 80% GUI translation.

Kind Regards,
rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org - Translation schedule for 3.1

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

I've updated the translation schedule 3.1 with the Monday (February 9th) 
deadline for all the teams who need to submit the last translation 
update based on the m40.


http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1#Translation_Schedule
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1#Translation_Schedule_for_Pootle_Users

Kind Regards,
rafaella

On 12/10/08 15:11, Rafaella Braconi wrote:

Dear Translators/Localizers,

we are approaching the 3.1 release and we start having enough changes 
and untranslated content to work on :-) .


As usual, I have prepared a translation schedule with deadlines and 
estimated wordcounts at:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1

Here some highlights:

Schedule:
===
* February 2nd - last translation delivery date to release engineering

Total Estimated Translation Volume:
==
GUI approx. 80,000 words
Help approx. 425,000 words

New/Changed Estimated Translation Volume since 3.0:
===
GUI approx. 9,000 words
Help approx. 18,000 words

If any question, just let me know

Kind Regards,
Rafaella


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Re: [l10n-dev] Deadline for m40?

[Rafaella Braconi]

Perfect! Thank you!

Rafaella

On 02/06/09 12:54, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hi: pt-BR Done!
Have a nice week-end!
Regards
Olivier

Rafaella Braconi escreveu:

Hi Sophie, All,

On 02/06/09 07:51, sophie wrote:

Hi Rafaella,

what is the deadline for m40 translation?
  
thank you for asking. I was actually waiting for the update to be 
done to make a decision based on the wordcount and as it is very 
very small, it would really be great if you could complete the 
translation of the few strings by Monday noon CET. We will then 
integrate only the latest translated strings.


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Re: [l10n-dev] Confusing string in new M40

[Rafaella Braconi]

Please tell me what to do with this string in the new M40  POOTLE:

may be throw it into the garbage bin?

I look into that :-( .

Rafaella


in the file:


 OO.o PO UI 
 ] instsetoo_native
 
 


 / inc_openoffice
 
 


 / windows
 
 


 / msi_languages.po
 
 



Control.ulf#OOO_CONTROL_206.LngText.text

error text goes here error text goes here error text goes here error 
text goes here error text goes here error text goes here error text 
goes here error text goes here error text goes here error text goes here


Currently translated as a FUZZY:

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Re: [l10n-dev] translation delivery deadline: February 2nd for OOO3.1

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi,

the issue is assigned to Vladimir who is taking care of all delivered 
translations. As soon as we finish with the integration, he will start 
creating l10n CWS builds. Once they are available I'll announce it. If 
your translated files are then missing in the CWS l10n builds please do 
shout :-) .


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rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Deadline for m40?

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Andre,

is all in the issue:

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=98835

Rafaella


On 02/06/09 09:45, Andre Schnabel wrote:

Hi,

 Original-Nachricht 
  

Von: Rafaella Braconi 



  

Hi Sophie, All,

On 02/06/09 07:51, sophie wrote:


Hi Rafaella,

what is the deadline for m40 translation?
  
  
thank you for asking. I was actually waiting for the update to be done 
to make a decision based on the wordcount and as it is very very 
small, it would really be great if you could complete the translation of 
the few strings by Monday noon CET. We will then integrate only the 
latest translated strings.



should be possible. 


@Aijin: can you point us to the sdf file you used to create the new content in 
pootle?

I did not yet apply the corrections I did on the last sdf .. I'll do this 
during the weekend. But it was good to have the sdf you used, so that I can run 
gsichek on my new translations.

Best,

André

  

Re: [l10n-dev] Deadline for m40?

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sophie, All,

On 02/06/09 07:51, sophie wrote:

Hi Rafaella,

what is the deadline for m40 translation?
  
thank you for asking. I was actually waiting for the update to be done 
to make a decision based on the wordcount and as it is very very 
small, it would really be great if you could complete the translation of 
the few strings by Monday noon CET. We will then integrate only the 
latest translated strings.


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Re: [l10n-dev] SCA - Sun Contributor Agreement

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sophie,

thank you for the clarifications, please see my comments below:

From what I remember of the SCA discussions, it is now mandatory for all
the l10n contributors. But I thought only for translators, not for
reviewers.
  
It really depends on what the reviewer exactly does.. If the revier only 
provided feedabck on does not change anything in the files 
himself/herself, he/she is only recommended to submit the SCA. If a 
reviewer does carry out terminology changes, makes corrections to the 
files, I see his/her work not very different from a translator who 
contributes back to the code.

See point 3 of the FAQ
-
   3.  Do I have to fill out a SCA?

  Yes, if you intend to contribute source code or other materials
which are intended to be compiled or otherwise integrated with the
OpenOffice.org product, regardless of the size of the contribution
(e.g., including contributions of 10 lines or less). However we
encourage all contributors to the OpenOffice.org website domain,
including the wiki, to fill out the SCA, as it streamlines the process
for all.
--

So now, only documentation and extensions (may be also templates) are
not covered by the SCA.
  

Kind Regards,
rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] SCA - Sun Contributor Agreement

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi André

On 01/28/09 15:57, Andre Schnabel wrote:

Hi Rafaella,

 Original-Nachricht 
  

Von: Rafaella Braconi 



  
I recently received some questions regarding the process to follow to 
sign and submit the SCA. Here below in summary, all you need to do, in 
case you haven't :-)




Who is "you" in this caes - or who has to sign the SCA?
  

very good questions :-)

Is it
a) people who are responsible for a given translation (normally the l10n 
contacts for a language)
- or - 
b) everyone who is going to translate at least one segment?
  
Everyone who is contributing to the OOo localization with translation 
(independently from volume) , review + corrections or l10n fixes.


Regards,
rafaella

[l10n-dev] SCA - Sun Contributor Agreement

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

I recently received some questions regarding the process to follow to 
sign and submit the SCA. Here below in summary, all you need to do, in 
case you haven't :-)


===

Submit a signed and filled-out copy of the Sun Microsystems Inc. 
Contributor Agreement (SCA)  
. It is a pdf and you must print it out and send it to:

Fax: +1-408-549-9923
- or -
Mail a signed original to:

Eric Renaud
OpenOffice.org/Sun Microsystems
4120 Network Circle, USCA12-105

Santa Clara, CA 95054 USA

- or -
Scan a signed original and email to copyright...@sun.com

There is also a  wiki page where we try to track the pending approvals:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Pending_JCAs
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Sun_Contributor_Agreement

Don't hesitate to contact me in case you have further questions.

Rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] To contributing upstream OpenOffice telugu [te] translations... need guidance.

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Krishna,

On 01/28/09 14:54, krishna k wrote:

Hi,

   This is Krishnababu K. Currently i am contributing for upstream projects
[ GNOME, KDE, MOZILLA, FEDORA] as a
telugu Translator. I would like to contribute for OpenOffice telugu [te]
translations as well.
  

very good!

I already gone through the site www.l10n.openoffice.org and register myself
over there. Now where can i get the
translation files and where i have to submit them.

So please provide the guidance over here.
  
There is a quite extensive checklist with all steps that need to be 
carried out in order to see OOo release in your language at:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/NLC:ReleaseChecklist

And a wiki page with translation deadlines, process and tool information 
at: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1


If you want to translate OOo into Telugu using Pootle at: 
http://pootle.sunvirtuallab.com/ or http://pootle2.sunvirtuallab.com/, 
we can add your language as well. In this case please subscribe and send 
a short email to the to...@l10n.openoffice.org list.


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Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] ES project finished cycle

[Rafaella Braconi]

Just to let the leads and managers that the spanish localization has 
finalized the 2nd cycle of localization on the Pootle server.



This is really great news! Thanks for letting us know!

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Re: [l10n-dev] OO Schedule & Tasks!

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi,

In OOo terminology this is "UI and Feature freeze". If new strings need to be 
included after this date, this would nee special approval.
  

exactly.

I can only once agian ask the l10n project leads to request clarification about 
the new strings in m40.
  

done in the relea...@openoffice.org list.


...
  

One more doubt I had was, can the translators or language maintainers
submit their translations till "last l10n bug fixes delivery: February 26th,
2009"? OR is the date "translation delivery deadline: February 2nd, 2009"
fixed till when translators can submit translations?



Feb. 2nd is the date for regular translation submission. Feb 26th should only 
be used for very urgend l10n/translation bugfixes that would be considered as 
showstopper.
  
exactly. Translations should be delivered on February 2nd. February 26th 
is really to be targeted for critical issues only.


Thanks,
rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] Deadline for OOo 3.0 final translations

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi,

On 01/27/09 12:17, Ain Vagula wrote:

m40 contains tasks for 3.1 and as there is no branch for 3.1 still,
I'd assume that m40 is targeted for 3.1.
http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/cws.rss.CWSAnnounceNewsFeed/mws?guid=7116
  
yes, I am afraid that m40 will be the target. I'll work on the 
translation schedule to reflect this.


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Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org - Translation schedule for 3.1 - Pootle has been update with DEV300_m39

[Rafaella Braconi]

Thank you, Aijin!

Dear All,

we have 3 weeks from now to complete translation for the 3.1 base on the 
m39. Let's make the most out of it!


Rafaella

On 12.01.09 15:58, Aijin Kim wrote:

Hi Pootle users,

Pootle has been update with DEV300_m39:
http://pootle.sunvirtuallab.com
http://pootle2.sunvirtuallab.com

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[l10n-dev] REMINDER: IRC Meeting on Quality assurance of l10n builds

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

this is a reminder that tomorrow we will be having our scheduled meeting 
on quality assurance of l10n builds.


Please feel free to join:

Date/Time: Tuesday, January 13th at 5:00 pm UTC
Channel: IRC network FreeNode, #ooonlc

I hope Nakata Maho will be able to join to present us what the JA team 
is doing in this respect:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/JA/QA/Release/2.4.2

Kind Regards,
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Occitan-lengadocian - 80% of OpenOffice.org translated

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi bruno,

On 01/09/09 11:25, Bruno GALLART wrote:

Bruno GALLART
leader of occitan-lengadocian 's translators

Hi,

First, Good year and good health for everyone !

My question :
We have translated 80% of OpenOffice.org (OO.o PO UI).

This is really great news! This is really a very important step.

We should like to know if it is possible to test this translation with 
an OpenOffice.org  beta for  lengadocian.  If yes, where  can we have 
some informations to begin this process.
You can find detailed information on the current translation schedule 
at: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1#Translation_Schedule_for_Pootle_Users
You can continue to work on files till February 2nd. After that l10n CWS 
builds will be created with all content translated so far as reported 
at: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease31

TCM testing is planned on February 10-26th
Last l10n fixes should be delivered by February 26th
And in order to make sure the Occitan-Lengadocian OpenOffice.org version 
is distributed over the OOo you'll need to perform a couple of more steps:

1) run sanity check on RC l10n builds
2) update the test status on QATrack
3) set the status as APPROVED in qatrack
4) get an approved build distributed to the mirror network

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Testing_my_translation
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Release_Action_List_for_QA

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Rafaella

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[l10n-dev] Re: [l10n-tools] OpenOffice.org - Translation schedule for 3.1 - Pootle update DELAYED

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

we will proceed with the Pootle content update (target m39) on Monday, 
January 12th. Therefore I would ask you to upload all translated files 
to Pootle by Sunday, January 11th at 10:00 pm CET.


Thanks,
Rafaella

On 01/07/09 13:06, Rafaella Braconi wrote:

Dear All,

this is to inform you that the m39 that we were targeting as the 
*translation* milestone for the 3.1 is not yet ready.
I know that many of you are waiting for the latest milestone to start 
translation. However, I would encourage you to translate or continue 
to translate (if you haven't done so already) using the available 
content in Pootle (currently m37).


We will let you know when the content will be updated.

I've updated the wiki at: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1#Translation_Schedule_for_Pootle_Users 



If any questions, just let me know.

Thanks,
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Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org - Translation schedule for 3.1

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi André

On 01/07/09 13:10, Andre Schnabel wrote:

Hi,

 Original-Nachricht 

  
For Pootle Users: please continue to work on translation (unless you are 
already done :-) ). We will let you know when the content will be updated.




just to be able to choose which file we are going to translate - any idea when 
the content will be updated (days, weeks ..?)
  

Just got the information that it's approx. 1 week delay.

Thanks,
Rafaella

We have some files left, where we would need more than a week of turn-around 
time. WOuold be unfortunate, if we pick these and the update happens within the 
next few3 days.

Thanks, 


André
  

Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org - Translation schedule for 3.1

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

this is to inform you that the m39 that we were targeting as the 
*translation* milestone for the 3.1 is not yet ready.
I know that many of you are waiting for the latest milestone to start 
translation. However, I would encourage you to translate using the m38 
and update the rest of your translations with the milestone which will 
include all features (m39/m40?).


For Pootle Users: please continue to work on translation (unless you are 
already done :-) ). We will let you know when the content will be updated.


Thanks,
Rafaella

On 12/10/08 15:11, Rafaella Braconi wrote:

Dear Translators/Localizers,

we are approaching the 3.1 release and we start having enough changes 
and untranslated content to work on :-) .


As usual, I have prepared a translation schedule with deadlines and 
estimated wordcounts at:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1

Here some highlights:

Schedule:
===
* February 2nd - last translation delivery date to release engineering

Total Estimated Translation Volume:
==
GUI approx. 80,000 words
Help approx. 425,000 words

New/Changed Estimated Translation Volume since 3.0:
===
GUI approx. 9,000 words
Help approx. 18,000 words

If any question, just let me know

Kind Regards,
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Finalized localization for Spanish

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Alexandro,

On 04.01.09 23:13, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
Hi the "ES" project just finalized the localization at 
http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:32300/es/


The wiki has been down so I havent been able to verify the second 
cycle of localization.


great job! Thank you to you and the ES team for this great effort and 
let me extend a big THANK YOU to all other teams who have tirelessly 
been translating to meet the deadlines :-)


The second cycle of localization is planned to start on Thursday, 
January 8th. I'll send out a short announcement as soon as the m39 is 
available in and outside Pootle ;-) .


Rafaella

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[l10n-dev] Happy New Year 2009!

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

Happy New Year to all of you for a wonderful, prosperous and peaceful 2009!

Let's work together to release and distribute as many OpenOffice.org 
localized builds and language packs as possible :-) .


How? By following the below 4 steps:

1) run sanity check on RC l10n builds
2) update the test status on QATrack
3) set the status as APPROVED in qatrack
4) get an approved build distributed to the mirror network

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Testing_my_translation
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Release_Action_List_for_QA

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Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] RE: work-in-progress (or What to do with items concerning changed images ??)

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Dirk,

On 12/22/08 15:48, Dick Groskamp wrote:

Rafaella,

could you please enlighten us about the strings with
{ENTER ALTERNATE DESCRIPTION HERE}
as mentioned by Olivier and Pavel ? (see below)
Please ignore them for the moment ... I am also still waiting for an 
answer. There are quite a few people already on holiday.

Did you file an issue for this?

Rafaella


I noticed that there are quiet a lot of them and they mostly concern 
changes in the dimensions of the images also (from "mm" to "cm"

and from "inches" to "cm" as well)

At this time I think we cannot enter a description for the images, as 
we don't know the actual images ;-)



Hi,

On 15.12.2008, at 13:24, Olivier Hallot wrote:


id="alt_id3152980">{ENTER ALTERNATE DESCRIPTION HERE}


I was just about to write the same question. The string was "Icon"  
before and I used Emacs amcro to translate all of them by one  
keyboard shortcut. The question is what to do with them now.


Frank, Uwe?
--
Pavel Janík




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[l10n-dev] The 4 Steps to distribute a Localized OOo Build

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

during our last IRC meeting, it came out that not all project members 
are well aware of process to follow to have the OpenOffice.org 
Localization builds released and distributed over the OOo mirrors.


With this mail, I just want to start a campaign to promote this process.
-

1) run sanity check on RC l10n builds
2) update the test status on QATrack
3) set the status as APPROVED in qatrack
4) get an approved build distributed to the mirror network

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Testing_my_translation
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Release_Action_List_for_QA

-

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Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Proposal for issue http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=96791

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi All,

first of all, really thank you for your prompt feedback and for your ideas!

I would like to give you a short update on this issue.

- move the label strings to an extension project does not seem to be a 
solution since the extension will need to be bundled to the office anyway.
- we are looking into  a way to include non-[en-US} strings in in 
xcu-files http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=96791
- since it will still take some time to provide a fix to this issue, as 
an interim solution, with the m38 we are setting the labels back as not 
to translate - to avoid that teams waste time in translating these 
strings while the final solution is still not in place.


For all Pootle users: we will be removing the 
http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:32300/it/openoffice_org/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po 
file from Pootle. We will back up this file with all the translations 
done so far for this file, so that once the solution is in place and for 
your language you want to provide localization for this file 
translations done previously can be restored.


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Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Starting a new Asturian Localization Project

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Marquinos,

On 12/22/08 10:13, marquinos wrote:

Hi all and person incharge of the project,

I wish to start a new Localization project on "Asturian" Language for Open
Office.org. Below I've give some details regarding my language.

ISO 639-2 Language Code -  ast
http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/langcodes-keyword.php?SearchTerm=asturian&SearchType=ALL&Submit=Go
http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/langcodes-keyword.php?SearchTerm=asturian&SearchType=ALL&Submit=Go   
English name of Language: Asturian

Country: Spain "ES"


I'm working in the asturian translation team.
We organize in www.softastur.org
I'm a member of asturian team in Launchpad:
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ast
I'm: https://launchpad.net/~marcos.alvarez.costales

You can put me as team leader if you like, some people like it.
You can use my email, or the list of asturian team Launchpad:
ubuntu-l10n-...@lists.ubuntu.com
  

welcome to the OpenOffice.org L10n project!

At http://l10n.openoffice.org/ you can get an overview of the projects 
and the areas where you can contribute.
We are targeting now the OpenOffice.org 3.1 release. Latest schedule 
information can be found at: 
p://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1


Kind Regards,

Rafaella Braconi
OpenOffice.org Localization Project lead

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Re: [l10n-dev] Funny messages in Help

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Olivier, all,

I see that some mistake - more or less funny ;-)  - have been spotted 
during translation.


I would encourage you to file an issue for the errors you found. That's 
the only way to really track them.


My suggestion would be to add to the subject line:

[Source Error in UI]
[Source Error in OLH]

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Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [qa-dev] IRC Meeting on Quality assurance of l10n builds

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Maho,

We JA team has a concrete process.
Let me explain in the next IRC.
khirano-san
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/JA/QA/Release/2.4.2
must be translated in English.
  
It would be really great to have you sharing your successful process 
with the others.

Let's have this as agenda item for next meeting.

Thanks,
rafaella

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[l10n-dev] Re: [qa-dev] IRC Meeting on Quality assurance of l10n builds

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

first of all, really thank you for attending yesterday's meeting, 
especially to those who attended at really challenging times!


For the fast readers, here some highlights:

- 3 test cases which were added (recently?) to the Sanity Check Scenario 
in TCM will be removed.
- there are many open questions on how to set up and work with the 
TestTool environment. A specific wiki should capture those Q&A.
- the process how to release and distribute OpenOffice.org localized 
versions is still not clear to all the N-L teams
- quaste (http://quaste.services.openoffice.org/) is still unknown to 
most of the teams.


next Meeting is scheduled on January 13th, 2009

You can read the complete log at:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings#Agenda

Kind Regards,
Rafaella

On 12/ 9/08 05:34 PM, Rafaella Braconi wrote:

Dear All,

I would like to invite you to an l10n/QA meeting on IRC to discuss in 
more detail the topic:

Quality assurance of l10n builds.

Date/Time: Tuesday, December 16th at 5:00 pm UTC
Channel: IRC network FreeNode, #ooonlc

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings#Logistics

See you on IRC next Tuesday,

Rafaella



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Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org - Translation schedule for 3.1 - translation milestone

[Rafaella Braconi]

Buona sera, Philippe, all,


Which milestone will be ready for translation ?
a short update on the translation milestone question. We are targetting 
the m39 as the milestone to use for the 3.1 release.


Hope this helps organizing the translation work.

Rafaella


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[l10n-dev] Re: [l10n-tools] How to translate Accelerator-keys in Office.po on Pootle

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Dirk,

On 12/15/08 12:43, Dick Groskamp wrote:
Would like to know how the Accelerator-keys in Office.po are to be 
translated.


Source (for instance)  is:  .uno:SelectAll

Translation could be:

A   .unoAllesselecteren
B   Alles selecteren
C  .unoAlles selecteren

I'm in the dark about the visible use of these keys and, if done 
wrong, would it break functionality ?


If the source is to be used as the visible use of the key I would 
translate this example as:  Alles selecteren.
Since I'm not sure if that breaks functionality since it is a 
Command.value I would like someone to shine some light on this.


So, please enlighten me
Generally, if the string you are translating is not a menu entry or a 
button, you can leave it out since a script will automatically assign 
the accelerator to the letters available in the dialogs avoiding double 
mnemonics as much as possible.


You can find more detailed information on this topic at: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mnemonics_Localisation


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Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org - Translation schedule for 3.1

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Philippe,

On 12/13/08 12:38, An Drouizig wrote:

Buongiorno Rafaella,

From what I can see there seems to be many label strings that are 
still in German,

(in DEV300_m37_2008-12-03_20-01-58.sdf.bz2 )
these labels will remain in German in the source because these are 
proper names. It seems that most teams would like to move the Labels.xcu 
into an extension which I think is a very good idea because it gives the 
flexibility to localize the labels or not - 
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=96791

Which milestone will be ready for translation ?
Well, you can start updating your translation using m37 especially if 
you wan to translate the Help because all changes for 3.1 have already 
been integrated. If you don't want to localize the labels (in the UI), 
just ignore the Labels.xcu. Since feature freeze is scheduled for 
December 18th, it's only between January 5th and 8th that we will have a 
better idea on which will be the milestone to use to complete 
translation for 3.1.
Our team still uses the en-US.sdf file as a translation base and we 
don't plan to switch to pootle in the near term,
That's fine. Whatever for you and your team works best. And if you want 
to test the tool just let us know.


Thanks,
Rafaella


Thanks,
Philippe

Skrivet eo bet gant Rafaella Braconi:

Dear Translators/Localizers,

we are approaching the 3.1 release and we start having enough changes 
and untranslated content to work on :-) .


As usual, I have prepared a translation schedule with deadlines and 
estimated wordcounts at:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1

Here some highlights:

Schedule:
===
* February 2nd - last translation delivery date to release engineering

Total Estimated Translation Volume:
==
GUI approx. 80,000 words
Help approx. 425,000 words

New/Changed Estimated Translation Volume since 3.0:
===
GUI approx. 9,000 words
Help approx. 18,000 words

If any question, just let me know

Kind Regards,
Rafaella


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Re: [l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org - Translation schedule for 3.1

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Andre,

On 12/10/08 15:49, Andre Schnabel wrote:

Hi Rafaella,

 Original-Nachricht 
  

Von: Rafaella Braconi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here some highlights:


New/Changed Estimated Translation Volume since 3.0:
===
GUI approx. 9,000 words




does this count include the label strings (that are currently discussed)? Labels 
are ~ 6500 words, making >70% (just to estimate the total effort).
  
Yes, unfortunately the label string impact the wordcount and the 
translation efforts of all teams.


Rafaella

André
  

[l10n-dev] OpenOffice.org - Translation schedule for 3.1

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear Translators/Localizers,

we are approaching the 3.1 release and we start having enough changes 
and untranslated content to work on :-) .


As usual, I have prepared a translation schedule with deadlines and 
estimated wordcounts at:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.1

Here some highlights:

Schedule:
===
* February 2nd - last translation delivery date to release engineering

Total Estimated Translation Volume:
==
GUI approx. 80,000 words
Help approx. 425,000 words

New/Changed Estimated Translation Volume since 3.0:
===
GUI approx. 9,000 words
Help approx. 18,000 words

If any question, just let me know

Kind Regards,
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] IRC Meeting on Quality assurance of l10n builds

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sankarshan,

On 12/10/08 01:24, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Rafaella Braconi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings#Logistics



Is there a place where one can read up about what is being done on the
issues mentioned currently ? A sort of state-of-the-nation summary ...

And, I had a separate question - what is the scope/extent of Quality
Assurance when it comes to l10n builds ?

I apologize if the questions are naive, but I would like to read about
what the boundaries of a discussion are.
  
the questions are not naive and I would encourage you to addend the 
meeting so that they can be discussed as well. If you cannot I'll add 
the 2 questions you have to the agenda.


Thanks,
Rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [qa-dev] IRC Meeting on Quality assurance of l10n builds

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi,

On 12/10/08 01:19, Maho NAKATA wrote:

Hi Rafaella,
Forwarded to JA qa list.

Note that 
I don't expect an attendance from JA as 12/16 5:00pm UTC = 12/17 2:00am JST...
  
I know and I am sorry for that but it's difficult to accommodate all 
time zones at once. We can do some kind of rotation of time zones and 
schedule next meeting so that it works for you as well. If there is any 
particular aspect of Qa/l10n testing you would like to be discussed 
during the meeting, please do let me know and I'll add it to the agenda.


Kind Regards,
Rafaella

Just our point of view.
We have been compiling wikis for l10n releases. (written in Japanese)
  
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/JA/QA/Release/2.4.2

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/JA/QA/Release/3.0.1
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/JA/QA/OOo3.0.0_QA_and_release_project
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOo2.4.1ja_QA_and_release_project
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOo2.4.0ja_QA_and_release_project
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOo2.3.1ja_QA_and_release_project
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOo2.3.0ja_QA_and_release_project
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOo_2.2.1%E3%81%AE%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E%E7%89%88QA%E3%81%A8%E3%83%AA%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9

Best,

From: Rafaella Braconi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [qa-dev] IRC Meeting on Quality assurance of l10n builds
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:34:42 +0100

  

Dear All,

I would like to invite you to an l10n/QA meeting on IRC to discuss in more 
detail the topic:
Quality assurance of l10n builds.

Date/Time: Tuesday, December 16th at 5:00 pm UTC
Channel: IRC network FreeNode, #ooonlc

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings#Logistics

See you on IRC next Tuesday,

Rafaella





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Re: [l10n-dev] When will the localization will launch

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Alexandro,


On 12/09/08 17:45, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
What's the current schedule for the localization period. So far I 
havent heard the go from Aijin but I hope I just miss it.  We are seen 
some strings already there but not sure if more will come.



very good question!

With m37 most of Help Content changes have been integrated (CWS 
hcshared19). Ive already asked Aijin to update Pootle content based on 
the m37 (update will be announced separately).
L10n key deadlines have been added to the release map at: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease31


A more detailed translation schedule is on progress.

Thanks,
Rafaella


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[l10n-dev] IRC Meeting on Quality assurance of l10n builds

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

I would like to invite you to an l10n/QA meeting on IRC to discuss in 
more detail the topic:

Quality assurance of l10n builds.

Date/Time: Tuesday, December 16th at 5:00 pm UTC
Channel: IRC network FreeNode, #ooonlc

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings#Logistics

See you on IRC next Tuesday,

Rafaella




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Re: [l10n-dev] Proposal for issue http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=96791

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Ain,

On 12/09/08 14:46, Ain Vagula wrote:

Option 3 - move all products with not-english name to an extension
(and out of translation). This makes also possible for different
countries with their own label producers to create their own
extensions. How many translators can handle source strings in German?
Maybe a lot (suspicious anyway). And in Chinese? Maybe a bit less...
;)
  
this is a very valid point. However, we need someone from release 
engineering to comment if this is doable.


Thanks,
Rafaella

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[l10n-dev] Proposal for issue http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=96791

[Rafaella Braconi]

Dear All,

with issue http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=96791 a 
number of strings which mainly include German *product names* in the 
source have been introduced as to be translated. Honestly, I don't think 
that it make much sense to consider this file as to be translated, but 
this is my opinion and would like your help to look into this issue and 
find a solution.


Option 1)
close this issue and set the file as not to translate

Option 2)
translate and maintain the translation of the product names in all 
languages going forward.


Please start voting on one of the above options or ... provide 
additional feedback that may help coming to a solution.


Thanks,
Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Help for German strings

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sophie,

sophie ha scritto:

Hi Tora,
tora - Takamichi Akiyama wrote:
  

Hi Sophie,

The texts seem to be found by the following steps:

 1. Start Writer of OpenOffice.org 3.0 or developer build.
 2. File - New - Labels
 3. In the tab "Label" choose "Avery Zweckform" from "Brand.'
 4. Browse items listed in the combobox "Type."

Source file:
 
http://svn.services.openoffice.org/ooo/tags/DEV300_m36/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Labels.xcu



Thank you, I know where to find the source and have installed DEV300m36 also
  

Installed file:
 
/opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0/share/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Labels.xcu


It seems that the texts are names of products delivered by Avery.
  Brand "Avery" seems to list products available in the U.S.
  Brand "Avery Zweckform" seems to list ones available in Germany.

Do we really need to translate them?



If you want to have them in your language in the UI you need to
translate them and labels are often used by companies.
But what is incorrect is to have German strings as source for our
translation. I don't know who has approved this but it's a mistake for me.
  

that's definitively a mistake.

I am forwarding this...

Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Open Hebrew in Pootle

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Haim and Nadav,

some time ago we set up the following list to discuss tool topics. You 
may want to subscribe to the list as well and follow up with details there.


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Rafaella

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dev@l10n.openoffice.org

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Sankarshan ,

On 11/27/08 06:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Aijin Kim wrote:

  

There are 16 new languages added to Pootle.  See below page to check
those new languages:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_Integration_Roadmap



I note that there is a bn_IN request in the Pootle Roadmap. I don't
recall being asked for it since there is already bn on Pootle and
bn.openoffice.org exists.
  
I think that Ankit explained the situation. When we get requests for 
langauges to be added to Poolte, I do ask to submit the request through 
the mailing lists. It seems that this did not happen this time. 
Therefore apologies for the inconvenience.


As I said just in a previous posting, if you wish to get admin rights to 
Pootle on the sunvirtuallab, you'll be the only one who will be able to 
assign the translation tasks to your team members. If you don not want 
to have your language available in Pootle, just let us know and we we'll 
remove it.


Thanks,
Rafaella

dev@l10n.openoffice.org

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi,

On 11/26/08 15:09, A S Alam wrote:

On Wednesday 26 Nov 2008 5:38:08 ਸ਼ਾਮ Aijin Kim wrote:
  

Hi,

Pootle upgrade/update has been completed and Pootle is now back.

There are 16 new languages added to Pootle.  See below page to check
those new languages:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_Integration_Roadmap



hi Aijim,
My Language is listed on portal, but as for I know, I have not
send any request from my community (Punjabi) to add to Pootle.
(page is saying " to Pootle by community's requests.)

Is there any mistake you did with Punjabi?
  
it seems that there has been some misconnects with the Leads of the 
languages uploaded to Poolte. If you wish to get admin rights, you'll be 
the only one who will be able to assign the translation tasks to your 
team members. If you don not want to have you language available in 
Pootle we will remove it.


Just let us know what works for you.

Thanks,
Rafaella

dev@l10n.openoffice.org

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hello,

I support Mr. Nguyen's request and hope also that Clytie will come 
back soon.


Best,
Charles-H. Schulz,
Lead, Native-Language Confederation,
OpenOffice.org .


The rights have been granted.

If anything else missing or unclear just let me know.
Any yes  I also hope Clytie will come back soon!

Rafaella

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Re: [l10n-dev] Pootle on steroids and new deadlines

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi Olivier,

On 11/26/08 13:37, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hi,

First, thanks to the Pootle team for the new Pootle 1.2. It has now a 
much better response time at least for navigation.

great to see positive feedback on this!


Some new strings were loaded as announced (update content with 
DEV300_m35). So, do we have a deadline?

Give me a couple of few more days to work on the translation schedule.
For the moment here the release map  for the next release: 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease31


I think that the final delivery date for translation will be around mid 
of February ... but let me come back to you all on this. We will try to 
update the content in a more regular basis to have the possibility to 
see the translation integrated much earlier and to better distribute the 
translation workload over various weeks.so that not all work


Thank you,
Rafaella


Also, some new strings (hundreds of them in officecfg/) refers to 
commercial products, some of them not distributed in all countries. Is 
there a rule-of-thumb for this specific translations?


Thank you.



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Re: [l10n-dev] L10n QA and TCM

[Rafaella Braconi]

On 11/24/08 20:52, sophie wrote:

Hi all,

On my way to try to bring a better documentation for QA of l10n builds,
I find a page that seems to be complete to my eyes :
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/NLC/localizedQA

Please don't hesitate to tell what is missing to your eyes or add it
directly to the wiki.

Concerning TCM, may be we can add a wish list on this page
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Test_Case_Management
  

Thank you, Sophie, that sounds really good.
BTW, there is a newer version of TCM available, still need to find out 
the differences between the current and the new to see if we would 
benefit to switch to a newer version. Having a wishlist would help 
comparing the current TCM and the TCM2.


Rafaella

and further the discussion here about our concerns (or on l10n-tools@
for Pavels concerns ;-). Once we are ok, I'll open an issue in IZ, may
be we will be able to get a better tool :-)

Kind regards
Sophie


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[l10n-dev] Re: [project leads] Change of Project Lead for en_GB

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi David,

On 10/27/08 19:33, David Bartlett wrote:

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After a spell of inactivity, we would like to get the en_GB version of  
OOo up and running again. Stuart Swales (copied in this email) has  
agreed to take over as project lead because work commitments have  
prevented me from doing this recently. We also have gathered together  
a few more volunteers to help Stuart.


Please let me and Stuart know if there is anything else we need to do  
in order to effect this change.
  
really thank you for letting us know. A big thank you for all the work 
you have done so far. I know it's not easy.

Stuart, congratulations to your new role.

You have my full support to make this happen!

Rafaella Braconi
OpenOffice.org L10n Project lead

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Re: [l10n-dev] 3.1.0 translation

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi,

On 10/29/08 14:23, Nguyen Vu Hung wrote:

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Rafaella Braconi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Hi,


Is there any way to "import" DEV300_m34 into pootle so I can translate
with browser?
  

Pootle will be updated soon so that all teams can start working on
translation for 3.1.
We will notify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list about the Pootle translation schedule.


Thanks!

And please keep a copy of current 3.0 po files on pootle so ( just in case)
translation team can fix or update their work if needed.
# I am not sure if this is necessary.
  
our updates are incremental, that is to say: all what has not changed in 
the source is kept as is, all what has been modified or new in the 
source gets flagged as fuzzy or new in the target.


Kind Regards,
rafaella

Re: [l10n-dev] 3.1.0 translation

[Rafaella Braconi]

Hi,

On 10/29/08 12:19, Nguyen Vu Hung wrote:

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:26 PM, sophie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Hi,
Nguyen Vu Hung wrote:


1. What are the po files in http://pootle.sunvirtuallab.com
  

There is UI and help files


2.  Are they set to 3.0.0 or 3.0.1 or 3.1.0?
  

Currently they are based on the OOO300_m28.
3.0.1 should not need any localization because there is only bug fixes
in it.
3.1.0 is currently DEV300_m34 and is ready since the 23rd of October.


pootle is the only place I know.

Is there any way to "import" DEV300_m34 into pootle so I can translate
with browser?

Or I have to download DEV300_m34's string files and translate offline?
Please let me know if is there any help available( an URL would be nice).
  
Pootle will be updated soon so that all teams can start working on 
translation for 3.1.

We will notify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list about the Pootle translation schedule.

Thanks,
Rafaella