Re: [SH-Discuss] meeting minutes
I thought it had been announced last week at the meeting? On Jun 26, 2014 5:03 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: Proposals: Key Proposal - Steve Radonich IV Reason: To help with open hours when Becca can’t make it. To more able to perform duties as champion. Mike - Will you rob us blind? No Jimmy - Are you lying? No All vote for it. This is not how proposals work. We've had this discussion before. Proposals, -including- proposals to admit new members, proposals to issue keys, and any other proposal requires announcement 7 days prior to the meeting at which it will be decided. This protocol is -not- optional just because it is inconvenient. It does not matter when paperwork is handed in. It does not matter if it has been discussed with the board, or with most of the membership. The ENTIRE membership must be notified 7 days prior to any decision. Any member in good standing may make a proposal. The continued disregard for well established protocols is troubling. regards, Andrew L On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:52 PM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone, Before Tue meeting I did hand off the $4040 left over from the Akron Civic Hackathon to Devin. I'm assuming the budget includes that as well. If not, well, add that amount somewhere as well. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:25 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It was brought up a couple months back that the board would send out the discussion agenda for it's meetings. What is listed in the minutes seems a little sparse, If I recall correctly there was a mention of the intent to discuss ways to increase income as well as a request for comment from the membership/community. Is a more specific Agenda going to be sent out so people can comment or plan to attend? Could we get a breakdown of recurring monthly costs? I don't think we need one every financial report unless fees/services change. As far as I know it's something along the lines of : $500 - rent $200 - internet hosting, though other options are being considered $x00 - insurance $xxx - utlities(garbage~$75?, electric, water) Perhaps I'm being unrealistic but do we really envision spending $166/mo on paper towel, glue, and filament? Previously we had a budget less than half that and there seemed to be plenty of each. regards, Andrew L On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Devin Wolfe de...@midnight30products.com wrote: Didnt see these go through. Meeting Minutes 6/24/2014 Moderator: Devin Wolfe Note Taker: Steve Radonich IV Introductions: Angelo - human power technician G - charity pins Alex - condensated on Jimmy - student computer science, no classes this summer Dave - radio/TV production Andrew - working on a lot of python stuff Andy - Goto all the pony parties Philip - working on the wall giving us all cancer Dennis - Brought to SynHak by G, carpenter Becca - makes cookie brownies Steve - Take notes Devin - mods Mike - put peas in stew Craig - drives really fast cars today Linda - trying to relax after very hard da Announcements: Philip - Submitted a paragraph to downtown akron partnership that describes synhak and invites people to come down for the downtown art walk Mike - Ordered a USB Radio tuner that can bring in various signals Becca - LAN/Retro Game party is the 2nd Saturday of every month, so now it’s July 12th Becca - Wednesday the 16th at 8PM will have a jewlery class Andrew - little bit ago sent out another email about CWG, it needs two co-sponsors to go with it, please look over it and make any corrections as needed Andy - Dance pads were a big hit at the pony conventions, next thing going is the detroit maker faire if you want to volunteer we can setup a synhak table. July 26/27th Alex - B-Sides Cleveland July 19th Saturday Steve - Brought an iMac G5 fully updated for 10.4 with Diablo II G - Third Akron techpint July 30th Wednesday at 10PM Devin - Board Meeting Monday at 7PM, we are going to on a board level start using Robert’s Rules of order, looking at restructuring the way the board is ran. * Becca - Point is to make us be more presentable as an organization and proficient. When you come to someone and say I’m a champion of SynHak you get blank stares. * Devin - moving towards more traditional board rules, because it’s proven, and implementing a budget forecast 2014 SYN/HAK budget forecast from 6/1/2014 to 6/1/2015 Funds as of 6/10/2014 Checking $2,933.80 Savings $11,805.00 Register $267.68 Total Funds: 15,006.48 Current expenses $1200 per month Current income $630 per month (Assuming 20 members with Basic membership and paying three months ahead and getting the 10% discount) -- Allocations: $7000 To cover the $570 a month ($6840) (for 12 months) not covered by members dues plus $160 for deposit on any new utilities. $3800 Project fund. Expenses associated with Space improvement,
Re: [SH-Discuss] meeting minutes
Everyone, Before Tue meeting I did hand off the $4040 left over from the Akron Civic Hackathon to Devin. I'm assuming the budget includes that as well. If not, well, add that amount somewhere as well. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:25 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It was brought up a couple months back that the board would send out the discussion agenda for it's meetings. What is listed in the minutes seems a little sparse, If I recall correctly there was a mention of the intent to discuss ways to increase income as well as a request for comment from the membership/community. Is a more specific Agenda going to be sent out so people can comment or plan to attend? Could we get a breakdown of recurring monthly costs? I don't think we need one every financial report unless fees/services change. As far as I know it's something along the lines of : $500 - rent $200 - internet hosting, though other options are being considered $x00 - insurance $xxx - utlities(garbage~$75?, electric, water) Perhaps I'm being unrealistic but do we really envision spending $166/mo on paper towel, glue, and filament? Previously we had a budget less than half that and there seemed to be plenty of each. regards, Andrew L On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Devin Wolfe de...@midnight30products.com wrote: Didnt see these go through. Meeting Minutes 6/24/2014 Moderator: Devin Wolfe Note Taker: Steve Radonich IV Introductions: Angelo - human power technician G - charity pins Alex - condensated on Jimmy - student computer science, no classes this summer Dave - radio/TV production Andrew - working on a lot of python stuff Andy - Goto all the pony parties Philip - working on the wall giving us all cancer Dennis - Brought to SynHak by G, carpenter Becca - makes cookie brownies Steve - Take notes Devin - mods Mike - put peas in stew Craig - drives really fast cars today Linda - trying to relax after very hard da Announcements: Philip - Submitted a paragraph to downtown akron partnership that describes synhak and invites people to come down for the downtown art walk Mike - Ordered a USB Radio tuner that can bring in various signals Becca - LAN/Retro Game party is the 2nd Saturday of every month, so now it's July 12th Becca - Wednesday the 16th at 8PM will have a jewlery class Andrew - little bit ago sent out another email about CWG, it needs two co-sponsors to go with it, please look over it and make any corrections as needed Andy - Dance pads were a big hit at the pony conventions, next thing going is the detroit maker faire if you want to volunteer we can setup a synhak table. July 26/27th Alex - B-Sides Cleveland July 19th Saturday Steve - Brought an iMac G5 fully updated for 10.4 with Diablo II G - Third Akron techpint July 30th Wednesday at 10PM Devin - Board Meeting Monday at 7PM, we are going to on a board level start using Robert's Rules of order, looking at restructuring the way the board is ran. * Becca - Point is to make us be more presentable as an organization and proficient. When you come to someone and say I'm a champion of SynHak you get blank stares. * Devin - moving towards more traditional board rules, because it's proven, and implementing a budget forecast 2014 SYN/HAK budget forecast from 6/1/2014 to 6/1/2015 Funds as of 6/10/2014 Checking $2,933.80 Savings $11,805.00 Register $267.68 Total Funds: 15,006.48 Current expenses $1200 per month Current income $630 per month (Assuming 20 members with Basic membership and paying three months ahead and getting the 10% discount) -- Allocations: $7000 To cover the $570 a month ($6840) (for 12 months) not covered by members dues plus $160 for deposit on any new utilities. $3800 Project fund. Expenses associated with Space improvement, machine or tool replace/repair, walls, light fixtures, outlets, benches, shelving, storage, ect. Non-consumables. $2000 General fund. Allocation for consumables and replacement items for the space. Glue, tape, paper towels, rags, oil, cleaner, light bulbs, printer ink, 3d printer filament, paper, ect. General operating expenses. $1200 Rainy day fund, incase SYN/HAK loses all income for one month. Can also be used for emergency repairs or deposit on a new location in the event we find a new building. $600 Advertisement. Flyers, ads, swag, signage, any form of digital or physical advertisments. $400 Booth space for conventions. Financial: Membership: Linda Angelo Becca - How do you feel SynHak can benefit you? L: A lot of experience here that I can get help when I have trouble on a project. A: Looking at the sense if I have a project with things I want down that is outside my area of expertise I could get some help. Mike- What are you most interested in learning here: L: Started with carpentry and there are tools I would like to learn how to use
Re: [SH-Discuss] meeting minutes
That $4040 has been put into savings as an emergency fund of sorts. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] meeting minutes
Proposals: Key Proposal - Steve Radonich IV Reason: To help with open hours when Becca can’t make it. To more able to perform duties as champion. Mike - Will you rob us blind? No Jimmy - Are you lying? No All vote for it. This is not how proposals work. We've had this discussion before. Proposals, -including- proposals to admit new members, proposals to issue keys, and any other proposal requires announcement 7 days prior to the meeting at which it will be decided. This protocol is -not- optional just because it is inconvenient. It does not matter when paperwork is handed in. It does not matter if it has been discussed with the board, or with most of the membership. The ENTIRE membership must be notified 7 days prior to any decision. Any member in good standing may make a proposal. The continued disregard for well established protocols is troubling. regards, Andrew L On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:52 PM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone, Before Tue meeting I did hand off the $4040 left over from the Akron Civic Hackathon to Devin. I'm assuming the budget includes that as well. If not, well, add that amount somewhere as well. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:25 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It was brought up a couple months back that the board would send out the discussion agenda for it's meetings. What is listed in the minutes seems a little sparse, If I recall correctly there was a mention of the intent to discuss ways to increase income as well as a request for comment from the membership/community. Is a more specific Agenda going to be sent out so people can comment or plan to attend? Could we get a breakdown of recurring monthly costs? I don't think we need one every financial report unless fees/services change. As far as I know it's something along the lines of : $500 - rent $200 - internet hosting, though other options are being considered $x00 - insurance $xxx - utlities(garbage~$75?, electric, water) Perhaps I'm being unrealistic but do we really envision spending $166/mo on paper towel, glue, and filament? Previously we had a budget less than half that and there seemed to be plenty of each. regards, Andrew L On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Devin Wolfe de...@midnight30products.com wrote: Didnt see these go through. Meeting Minutes 6/24/2014 Moderator: Devin Wolfe Note Taker: Steve Radonich IV Introductions: Angelo - human power technician G - charity pins Alex - condensated on Jimmy - student computer science, no classes this summer Dave - radio/TV production Andrew - working on a lot of python stuff Andy - Goto all the pony parties Philip - working on the wall giving us all cancer Dennis - Brought to SynHak by G, carpenter Becca - makes cookie brownies Steve - Take notes Devin - mods Mike - put peas in stew Craig - drives really fast cars today Linda - trying to relax after very hard da Announcements: Philip - Submitted a paragraph to downtown akron partnership that describes synhak and invites people to come down for the downtown art walk Mike - Ordered a USB Radio tuner that can bring in various signals Becca - LAN/Retro Game party is the 2nd Saturday of every month, so now it’s July 12th Becca - Wednesday the 16th at 8PM will have a jewlery class Andrew - little bit ago sent out another email about CWG, it needs two co-sponsors to go with it, please look over it and make any corrections as needed Andy - Dance pads were a big hit at the pony conventions, next thing going is the detroit maker faire if you want to volunteer we can setup a synhak table. July 26/27th Alex - B-Sides Cleveland July 19th Saturday Steve - Brought an iMac G5 fully updated for 10.4 with Diablo II G - Third Akron techpint July 30th Wednesday at 10PM Devin - Board Meeting Monday at 7PM, we are going to on a board level start using Robert’s Rules of order, looking at restructuring the way the board is ran. * Becca - Point is to make us be more presentable as an organization and proficient. When you come to someone and say I’m a champion of SynHak you get blank stares. * Devin - moving towards more traditional board rules, because it’s proven, and implementing a budget forecast 2014 SYN/HAK budget forecast from 6/1/2014 to 6/1/2015 Funds as of 6/10/2014 Checking $2,933.80 Savings $11,805.00 Register $267.68 Total Funds: 15,006.48 Current expenses $1200 per month Current income $630 per month (Assuming 20 members with Basic membership and paying three months ahead and getting the 10% discount) -- Allocations: $7000 To cover the $570 a month ($6840) (for 12 months) not covered by members dues plus $160 for deposit on any new utilities. $3800 Project fund. Expenses associated with Space improvement, machine or tool replace/repair, walls, light fixtures, outlets, benches, shelving, storage, ect. Non-consumables. $2000
[SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 17JUN14
All, Here is the link for the meeting minutes for tonight's meeting. They are in the Google Drive for Synhak as well. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qKdFvc7lEuqgtpHxuv9v_1PW3IfHnMc_3YJvVR2jOSs/edit Thanks! -- Very Respectfully, William G. Schaffer 330-752-3328 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes
Dear all Please email the meeting minutes to the discuss list. One, it would be nice to show the world SYN/HAK is still operating and open for business. Two, I am excited to know how Philip's great bike shop proposal was received. I hope it gets approval because Robert W and I have bike projects on our todo list. Thank you all Rob Sent from my iPhone ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes
Rob, The minutes of the recent board meeting and the minutes of last night's weekly meeting will be posted soon. About the Bike Shop - there seems to be strong support among the members for the proposal, in spite of the page length and time required to read it thoroughly. There are sufficient funds available to make it happen very soon. It will be up for a vote next Tuesday. If you are not going to be able to bring Robert to the meeting, let me know and I will send you details on how to name me in a proxy vote statement that will allow me to submit Robert's vote at the meeting. And, thanks for your support! Philip On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Robert Rybicki rob...@robertrybicki.com wrote: Dear all Please email the meeting minutes to the discuss list. One, it would be nice to show the world SYN/HAK is still operating and open for business. Two, I am excited to know how Philip's great bike shop proposal was received. I hope it gets approval because Robert W and I have bike projects on our todo list. Thank you all Rob Sent from my iPhone ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/27
= Agenda = * '''Note Taker:''' Andrew L * '''Moderator:''' Becca == Introduction and Names == * Andy – Killed mother nature to build fancy DDR pads * Philip – Bicycles, photography, and ocassionally computers * Gene – first time here, wants to see what we’re about ** Heard about us…somehow, has a flier. Oddmall probably * Angelo – Akrons foremost cycle-mumbles-. Intrested in all things pedal powered *Andrew - crutches about * Dave – does TV production * Martha – comes for the lively conversation * Devin – Builds vibrating devices. Family appropriate *Steve – Sits up all night playing watchdogs. * Becca – has 3 days off *David - == Announcements == * Andy built some DDR pads with Nick and assorted other folk * Devin- brought out a vibrating table to remove bubbles from molds ** 10lb max *Akron Civic hacking 5/31-6/1 co-sponsored with OSC techlab * Philip 5/31 12-1pm free lunch at Unitarian Universalist Church in Fairlawn. Groceries(canned goods, etc) to go after the meal, no religious affiliation required. *Lathe is up and running, Devin will do training with +3 People ** +3 people applies for welding classes too * Andrew brought in some metal casting books for people to peruse. These are not donations to the library ** We do have a library if anyone has books to donate * Andy swapped the 3D printer filament, it works better now ** also brought out a bigger 3D printer gantry he built out of conduit *** Becca pushes for a pancake printer *Board meeting 6/1 agenda to follow == Membership == * No new memberships == Financial Report == * Funds in bank: Awaiting online credentials from the credit union == Proposals == *Eliminate AWS and host SynHak.org locally or offsite ** We’ve had offers to use other people’s servers for free ** suggested to discuss with noc@ ** perhaps look at old logs to see if we can just cut processes? *Eliminate 1 trashcan current costs is ~$50/month ** One can will be ~$35 * Steve will edit and repost proposal to remove Torrie from SynHak * Proposal to revert to voting on things as worded in the bylaws ** Super majority may be used in certain cases but by default seems burdensome *** Such as changing membership rights **Simple majority for basic purchases ** Concern about members present vs total membership *** Most issues would be 50/50 but it could have unintended outcomes, it’s easy for a small group of people to work the system ***Recently we’ve had many proposals and we need to adapt ***The people who regularly participate and attend meetings should be able to prevent most attempts to work the system. Currently one person can stop all progress or discussion on a proposal *** Generally understood that if you don’t attend or have a proxy you had no issues with the proposals. Proxy votes must be viewable by all members prior to the meeting **Philip- I want a comprehensive set of rules for voting. What circumstances would merit a closed/secret ballot ***closed ballots could be called for by any member in good standing. Results would not be tied to a name. *** Doesn’t it run contrary to our transparency? There are some things that are less transparent than others: members behind on dues, personal information, etc. ***Devin- Voting works, but +50% might be too low. We can adjust that later. **Concern about rushing through wording that isn’t the best it can be *** We need a spokesperson for the proposal. The vote will be announced beforehand any changes to wording will still require the full maturity time. ** Concern about not fitting well with collaboration **Concerns noted but No Blocks *PASSED == Discussion Items == * There was talk last week about eliminating the 10% discount ** We do have income issues, we need to make savings somewhere, Having more cash now does help sometimes ** Philip- if I pay in advance it doesn’t matter if I’m here or not ** Devin- It’s easy to figure out the minimum cashflow applying all discounts, anything else is bonus * Steve is working on equipment to liquidate to help bring in cash. *In light of voting being consented please record the outcome Ie 6/10 *Polite request to voice proxies by 6:45pm before the meeting. * CWG stuff? ** Some emails were supposed to be sent out. As of today no changes to the standing proposal *Garage sale ** We need to have a complete inventory ** If you have free time Please help by organizing in the basement ** Steve will send an email to discuss/announce so the community can have the chance to review our inventory ** Possible request for donations to sell? = End of Meeting = ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes 5-20-2014
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= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Andrew L
* '''Moderator:''' Devin
== Introduction and Names ==
* Philip - Does bicycles, and various other things
* Craig - works
* Will - Needs a job
* Justin - Fixes security
* AJ9 - Speaks out of order
* Mike - Found a 200MB zipdrive
* Alex - Doesn't break security :winkyface:
* Becca - Is a Tardis
* Steve - Feels wierd not note taking
* Mila - Breaks scroll saw blades
* Matt - Does electronics
** Heard about us through an old Beacon-Journal article
* Andrew - burns hands on glass
* Devin - fixes things
* Andy - nuttin'
* Tim - Teaches, hides in the palm room
* Bill - Presidents CHANPS
** Runs Insta-tech. Heard about SynHak while he was searching for
MakerAlliance
* Tom - Cuts trees.
** Heard about us through CHANP
* Chris -
== Announcements ==
* Becca met the Canton hacker/Maker Place (CHANP)
** Run out of a computer shop
** They want some pointers
** 6pm Thursday SynHakers will trek to visit their space
* Steve inventoried computers and things in the basement
** Things will be liquidated for space and funds
* May 31-June 1 Civic Hack-a-thon 9am-5pm
** Hosted at OSC techlab
** Meetup has a link through SynHak's page
** 5k grant from the Knight foundation
*** Helps provide food and technical materials
** Aim to solve software problems for The City Of Akron
*** Some database fixes are planned for now
*** No coding experience needed
** G Also has a blog post from last year
* June 7 Hack-a-thon at SynHak 12pm - ???(12am)
** Wireless mesh stuff
*** presentations and help building things
** Net Neutrality
** Local ISP
* Akron Artwalk June 7 5pm-10pm
* G met with some Knight foundation representatives for breakfast
** Program admins for the Knight foundation
** Philip was afternoon ambassador 3:15-3:30
*** General positive impression
*** Suggestions on improvements, basically presentation and beautification
*** Clarification for Treasurer was made, funding use is very general on
purpose
** New contacts were gained
* Philip announces Garage door decoration contest for 48 S. Summit
** Should represent SynHak in some way
** Does SynHak want to sponsor
** $30 gift certificate to Urban Eats Cafe
*** 51 Market street
** $5 per entry
*** Every entrant gets a vote
** SynHak members vote
** Most votes wins
* Andy sent a list of proposals to read through on Discuss
== Membership ==
* AJ9 Previous discussion last meeting.
** Dismissed
* Philip, Becca, Devin voice positive anecdotes
* No blocks or proxy blocks present
** Approved
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank: To be updated.
** 4 Square deposits, waiting for them to do their thing
** issues surrounding acting treasurer and admin rights to the square
account
* ~$320 petty cash
* Still need access to previous accounting books
* At current records more than $400 than we bring in
* Interest in reducing internet/hosting costs
== Proposals ==
* Family membership
** A family is defined as those living in the same household
** first adult pays normal dues
*** $15 for additional adults
*** $5 for minors
** Becca - Concerns about funds and sustainability
** Justin - Counter of lower dues bring in more money, starving hacker
status exists
** Mike - slightly less but more money is better than none
** Devin - agrees some is better than none. Wants more concrete definition
of 'starving hacker'
** PASSED
* Membership Senior discount
** $20
** +62 Proof of age required
*** Mike - in favor
*** Dissent about the 3 month 10% discount
People want to remove the 3-month advance 10% discount across the board
** PASSED
* Key policy in relation to minors
** old proposal brought up confusion about whether it had been
consented/voted discussed
** left alone for the time being
* Minors under the age of 18 are not permitted to visit SynHak without a
legal guardian
** Justin - that limits cub scouts from visiting
** Mike can we reword this to cover us but not limit access to cub scouts
and school groups
*** Andrew - should we talk to the Insurance Co. Likes Mikes thought process
** Philip - Key Holder has the right to ask people to leave if they refuse
or are not legally able to sign a waiver and use tools. Age has no bearing,
the keyholder must protect SynHak's liability
** Tim - if cubscouts/school groups have some institutional representative
present to supervise this might solve concerns.
** AJ9 - do we vote/consent on this?
** General agreement that it needs fleshed out.
* Discussion of SynHak following the bylaws as written and using voting
rather than consent
** 51% passes
** open thread on Discuss@
** Philip - suggest supermajority of 75% particularly when $ is concerned
** Justin - discusses thoughts on simple vs super majority, preference to
simple
** Andrew - preference for consensus or at least super majority.
*** We shouldn't have a ton of proposals to vote/consent on
*** We have the time to discuss and hash things
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes 5-20-2014
note taker: My what do you do was meant as a joke. Thank you anyway if
the intent was sparing me the embarrassment under the assumption I wasn't
joking or half asleep or something. I'll work on my deadpan. :)
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:22 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:
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= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Andrew L
* '''Moderator:''' Devin
== Introduction and Names ==
* Philip - Does bicycles, and various other things
* Craig - works
* Will - Needs a job
* Justin - Fixes security
* AJ9 - Speaks out of order
* Mike - Found a 200MB zipdrive
* Alex - Doesn't break security :winkyface:
* Becca - Is a Tardis
* Steve - Feels wierd not note taking
* Mila - Breaks scroll saw blades
* Matt - Does electronics
** Heard about us through an old Beacon-Journal article
* Andrew - burns hands on glass
* Devin - fixes things
* Andy - nuttin'
* Tim - Teaches, hides in the palm room
* Bill - Presidents CHANPS
** Runs Insta-tech. Heard about SynHak while he was searching for
MakerAlliance
* Tom - Cuts trees.
** Heard about us through CHANP
* Chris -
== Announcements ==
* Becca met the Canton hacker/Maker Place (CHANP)
** Run out of a computer shop
** They want some pointers
** 6pm Thursday SynHakers will trek to visit their space
* Steve inventoried computers and things in the basement
** Things will be liquidated for space and funds
* May 31-June 1 Civic Hack-a-thon 9am-5pm
** Hosted at OSC techlab
** Meetup has a link through SynHak's page
** 5k grant from the Knight foundation
*** Helps provide food and technical materials
** Aim to solve software problems for The City Of Akron
*** Some database fixes are planned for now
*** No coding experience needed
** G Also has a blog post from last year
* June 7 Hack-a-thon at SynHak 12pm - ???(12am)
** Wireless mesh stuff
*** presentations and help building things
** Net Neutrality
** Local ISP
* Akron Artwalk June 7 5pm-10pm
* G met with some Knight foundation representatives for breakfast
** Program admins for the Knight foundation
** Philip was afternoon ambassador 3:15-3:30
*** General positive impression
*** Suggestions on improvements, basically presentation and beautification
*** Clarification for Treasurer was made, funding use is very general on
purpose
** New contacts were gained
* Philip announces Garage door decoration contest for 48 S. Summit
** Should represent SynHak in some way
** Does SynHak want to sponsor
** $30 gift certificate to Urban Eats Cafe
*** 51 Market street
** $5 per entry
*** Every entrant gets a vote
** SynHak members vote
** Most votes wins
* Andy sent a list of proposals to read through on Discuss
== Membership ==
* AJ9 Previous discussion last meeting.
** Dismissed
* Philip, Becca, Devin voice positive anecdotes
* No blocks or proxy blocks present
** Approved
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank: To be updated.
** 4 Square deposits, waiting for them to do their thing
** issues surrounding acting treasurer and admin rights to the square
account
* ~$320 petty cash
* Still need access to previous accounting books
* At current records more than $400 than we bring in
* Interest in reducing internet/hosting costs
== Proposals ==
* Family membership
** A family is defined as those living in the same household
** first adult pays normal dues
*** $15 for additional adults
*** $5 for minors
** Becca - Concerns about funds and sustainability
** Justin - Counter of lower dues bring in more money, starving hacker
status exists
** Mike - slightly less but more money is better than none
** Devin - agrees some is better than none. Wants more concrete definition
of 'starving hacker'
** PASSED
* Membership Senior discount
** $20
** +62 Proof of age required
*** Mike - in favor
*** Dissent about the 3 month 10% discount
People want to remove the 3-month advance 10% discount across the
board
** PASSED
* Key policy in relation to minors
** old proposal brought up confusion about whether it had been
consented/voted discussed
** left alone for the time being
* Minors under the age of 18 are not permitted to visit SynHak without a
legal guardian
** Justin - that limits cub scouts from visiting
** Mike can we reword this to cover us but not limit access to cub scouts
and school groups
*** Andrew - should we talk to the Insurance Co. Likes Mikes thought
process
** Philip - Key Holder has the right to ask people to leave if they refuse
or are not legally able to sign a waiver and use tools. Age has no bearing,
the keyholder must protect SynHak's liability
** Tim - if cubscouts/school groups have some institutional representative
present to supervise this might solve concerns.
** AJ9 - do we vote/consent on this?
** General agreement that it needs fleshed out.
* Discussion of SynHak following the bylaws as
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
Andrew, the questions where out of line and uncalled for.
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Alex kot ak47...@gmail.com wrote:
Fiona,
Shoot an email to discuss-unsubscr...@synhak.org this will send an email
back letting you know you where unsubscribe.
Thanks,
Alex Kot
--
From: Fiona Casida fcas...@gmail.com
Sent: 5/15/2014 9:29 PM
To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
Good evening,
Would you please remove me from the list? Thank you.
I wish you all the best.
Fiona Casida
Sent from my iPhone
On May 15, 2014, at 9:05 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:
Becca,
I figured the minutes didn't accurately capture the moment. I agree that
interviews have been lax and even rushed in the past. It's obvious that
there are differing views on how we run and how we should run. Members new
and old should have some, at least casual, knowledge of how we govern and
what our mission and community goals are.
Everyone,
Sure we hack and do-ocracy things but what does that mean? How do you
balance do-ocracy with not crushing people's toes. In the past we were
operating fairly smoothly. Part of that is due to the small size but a
bigger part of that was a clearer sense of who we were as a community. It
would be simple if we could pile all of our faults onto the actions of a
few, or single person, over the past few months. The current state is a
symptom of a general failure of us as a community.
As Becca touched on these events are the culmination of a long history of
banal interviews and little clear direction. We say our mission at the
beginning of every meeting but do we really do what we tell everyone we do.
We've got the infrastructure but our community doesn't follow a coherent
set of values. Some people want voting, some want consensus, others just
want to throw money at a cool idea so they can use the tools once a month
and help out with expenses. Others still are confused as to why we
collectively need to provide educational outlets to the public. We as a
community have lost our way, maybe we never really had it.
We've had a couple classes this year and a few talks that no one went to.
Apart from GARC the community isn't using us. They haven't been since well
before the interpersonal disputes boiled over. If we want to fulfill our
mission we need to step up our game.
So while the questions asked were directed at AJ9, like you suggest, we
should all reflect on them.
regards,
Andrew L
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Steve Radonich IV
nesfr...@outlook.comwrote:
If that is the case Andrew then my reworded proposal meets the
qualifications to be consented on Tuesday. Because that is what I remember
as well
--- Original Message ---
From: a l leit...@gmail.com
Sent: May 15, 2014 7:49 PM
To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
My understanding, and how we've been operating, is that proposals
need to be discussed either on discuss@ or brought up at a meeting and
recorded in the minutes. Once those present have a wording they feel
represents the solution they are looking for it is sent to proposals@ or
brought up at a meeting and recorded in the precise wording to be
consented.
At least week after it has been proposed it is consented on at the
meeting and forever enshrined in the 'approved proposals' list.
The important step here are that the exact wording of the proposal is
sent to a mailing list accessible by the community so that any dissenting
views may be addressed. I believe proposals@ was spun off of discuss@ so
people were aware that mail from that list was the 'finalized' wording.
I wasn't aware I was having trouble seeing proposals?
regards,
Andrew L
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Andrew Buczko
a4s...@dsprototyping.comwrote:
Hey Andrew,
On https://synhak.org/wiki/Unified_SYNHAK_Code
it says that:
6. Proposals must be sent in full to discuss@synhak.org
But, on:
https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
it says:
2. A summary of the discussion is sent to propos...@synhak.org along
with the actual proposal.
Witch is it? One of these statements is wrong and needs to be changed.
Also,
Maybe this is why you are having trouble seeing the proposals ?
Andy
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:34 AM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry for the double post. I didn't want my comments to get
mistaken as meeting minutes. I tried to put headings on things in case
people didn't want to read a lengthy email
1) Apparently I wasn't clear with my wording regarding Wills membership.
I ('the secretary') did not say that 'Everything is ok, and last weeks vote
is upheld.. What I said was Last week was a fairly involved interview,
you don't need to do that again. Be sure his(and AJ9's) memberships get
brought up. Meaning his membership needs voted/consented on properly
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
have legitamate concerns but no one has replied. No one has told me why I should as Treasurer be forced to deal with extra concerns. These are not valid. Becca - Is that pretty much a summation? Torrie - Yes. Becca - Anyone want to address direct comment? AJ9 - Justin - I can put this to bed. Steve - You should have to deal with it because it was your job. Paul - If I was Torrie I'd feel attacked. I'm not hearing this is what happneded and this is what I want to do. If you have unresolved issues it's your fault. The majority of comments have been bad or covertly bad but not moving forward. Nothing positive will hapopoen untill all parties aggree. Principles before personalities. I'm lacking that this evening. Why would anyone show up if people are going to get put in that meeting. Everyone's got hurt feelings: action as opposed to words. Torrie:If you aren't happy with me I'm going to bail. I havent seen any positive tonight. Steve - This is about removal of Torrie proposal. She's got out and attacked people repeatedly. Paul - No one here are social butterflies. When Philip was talking about the young boy: is Torrie a law-breaker? No. yes, Torrie may have attacked people but that's between that person in Torrie. For God's sake, have a vote for or against a person. Steve - Public attacks are not something people should have to deal with. Torrie - Steve I'm sorry can we talk about this? Xander - des[pite unexcellence in the past, be excellent in the future. Torrie - How can we be productive? Xander - Make a proposal or have discussion in private. Steve - I get the whole 1-1 thing but it occured in a group and needs to be addressed in a group. Torrie - Has there been any call for mediation? Obviously I don't know what i've done wrong. Steve - Yes you do. How can you say it's not offensive when I'm not a transphobe? I have nothing against LGBT. Steve leaves. Justin - Summary: Steve is upset because he feels the other party isnt listening and isnt usuing sense. Phillip - I'd like to as a group sit down with binding arbitration. I want to see people contribute. I dont want people to leave. SO do something! Paul - As a nonmember, I'd volunteer my services over hiring a real mediator. Cause this is group therapy. I've got not no dog in this fight. Torrie - I will not be back until the 22. Justin - I want discuss problems with the website. Devin - There were also signs hung on the door and website graffitti. Justin - It is from a residential account. It points to a TDFisher web account. Torrie - What evidence do you have? Devin - *reads sign about 24/7 surveillance* Torrie - Have you considered others are upset? - We want to make sure whoever is doing that knows it is bad. Xander - If you're doing that please stop. Meeting is adhurned by Xander On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 1:01 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.comwrote: I think someone said said something about the WIFI was loading slow. I suggested that he mail it to the list so at least it's here. On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote: I can load it on my phone but not my computers --- Original Message --- From: Robert Rybicki rob...@robertrybicki.com Sent: May 13, 2014 11:22 PM To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14 What is the status of the website? I have heard from some that it is down but it has been working for me and G said it worked for him. Is this a selective DOS attack? Rob Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 7:53 PM, William Schaffer wschaff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, here are the meeting minutes for today's meeting 5/13/14. I was not able to upload them to the website because of its status, so I've attached them to this email as I was instructed. Please note that Steve took notes for the first part of the meeting, and that I took notes for the last part of the meeting. If you have any questions, please let me know! Thanks, -Will -- Very Respectfully, William G. Schaffer 330-752-3328 The University of Akron minutes ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
Fiona,
Shoot an email to discuss-unsubscr...@synhak.org this will send an email back
letting you know you where unsubscribe.
Thanks,
Alex Kot
-Original Message-
From: Fiona Casida fcas...@gmail.com
Sent: 5/15/2014 9:29 PM
To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
Good evening,
Would you please remove me from the list? Thank you.
I wish you all the best.
Fiona Casida
Sent from my iPhone
On May 15, 2014, at 9:05 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:
Becca,
I figured the minutes didn't accurately capture the moment. I agree that
interviews have been lax and even rushed in the past. It's obvious that there
are differing views on how we run and how we should run. Members new and old
should have some, at least casual, knowledge of how we govern and what our
mission and community goals are.
Everyone,
Sure we hack and do-ocracy things but what does that mean? How do you balance
do-ocracy with not crushing people's toes. In the past we were operating fairly
smoothly. Part of that is due to the small size but a bigger part of that was a
clearer sense of who we were as a community. It would be simple if we could
pile all of our faults onto the actions of a few, or single person, over the
past few months. The current state is a symptom of a general failure of us as a
community.
As Becca touched on these events are the culmination of a long history of banal
interviews and little clear direction. We say our mission at the beginning of
every meeting but do we really do what we tell everyone we do. We've got the
infrastructure but our community doesn't follow a coherent set of values. Some
people want voting, some want consensus, others just want to throw money at a
cool idea so they can use the tools once a month and help out with expenses.
Others still are confused as to why we collectively need to provide educational
outlets to the public. We as a community have lost our way, maybe we never
really had it.
We've had a couple classes this year and a few talks that no one went to. Apart
from GARC the community isn't using us. They haven't been since well before
the interpersonal disputes boiled over. If we want to fulfill our mission we
need to step up our game.
So while the questions asked were directed at AJ9, like you suggest, we should
all reflect on them.
regards,
Andrew L
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote:
If that is the case Andrew then my reworded proposal meets the qualifications
to be consented on Tuesday. Because that is what I remember as well
--- Original Message ---
From: a l leit...@gmail.com
Sent: May 15, 2014 7:49 PM
To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
My understanding, and how we've been operating, is that proposals need to be
discussed either on discuss@ or brought up at a meeting and recorded in the
minutes. Once those present have a wording they feel represents the solution
they are looking for it is sent to proposals@ or brought up at a meeting and
recorded in the precise wording to be consented.
At least week after it has been proposed it is consented on at the meeting and
forever enshrined in the 'approved proposals' list.
The important step here are that the exact wording of the proposal is sent to a
mailing list accessible by the community so that any dissenting views may be
addressed. I believe proposals@ was spun off of discuss@ so people were aware
that mail from that list was the 'finalized' wording.
I wasn't aware I was having trouble seeing proposals?
regards,
Andrew L
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote:
Hey Andrew,
On https://synhak.org/wiki/Unified_SYNHAK_Code
it says that:
6. Proposals must be sent in full to discuss@synhak.org
But, on:
https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
it says:
2. A summary of the discussion is sent to propos...@synhak.org along with the
actual proposal.
Witch is it? One of these statements is wrong and needs to be changed.
Also,
Maybe this is why you are having trouble seeing the proposals ?
Andy
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:34 AM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry for the double post. I didn't want my comments to get mistaken as meeting
minutes. I tried to put headings on things in case people didn't want to read a
lengthy email
1) Apparently I wasn't clear with my wording regarding Wills membership. I
('the secretary') did not say that 'Everything is ok, and last weeks vote is
upheld.. What I said was Last week was a fairly involved interview, you don't
need to do that again. Be sure his(and AJ9's) memberships get brought up.
Meaning his membership needs voted/consented on properly at this meeting.
That said: no one expressed any desire to block his joining and no one
protested at the meeting.
2) While AJ9's interview was a bit hostile
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
why I should as Treasurer be forced to deal with extra concerns. These are not valid. Becca - Is that pretty much a summation? Torrie - Yes. Becca - Anyone want to address direct comment? AJ9 - Justin - I can put this to bed. Steve - You should have to deal with it because it was your job. Paul - If I was Torrie I'd feel attacked. I'm not hearing this is what happneded and this is what I want to do. If you have unresolved issues it's your fault. The majority of comments have been bad or covertly bad but not moving forward. Nothing positive will hapopoen untill all parties aggree. Principles before personalities. I'm lacking that this evening. Why would anyone show up if people are going to get put in that meeting. Everyone's got hurt feelings: action as opposed to words. Torrie:If you aren't happy with me I'm going to bail. I havent seen any positive tonight. Steve - This is about removal of Torrie proposal. She's got out and attacked people repeatedly. Paul - No one here are social butterflies. When Philip was talking about the young boy: is Torrie a law-breaker? No. yes, Torrie may have attacked people but that's between that person in Torrie. For God's sake, have a vote for or against a person. Steve - Public attacks are not something people should have to deal with. Torrie - Steve I'm sorry can we talk about this? Xander - des[pite unexcellence in the past, be excellent in the future. Torrie - How can we be productive? Xander - Make a proposal or have discussion in private. Steve - I get the whole 1-1 thing but it occured in a group and needs to be addressed in a group. Torrie - Has there been any call for mediation? Obviously I don't know what i've done wrong. Steve - Yes you do. How can you say it's not offensive when I'm not a transphobe? I have nothing against LGBT. Steve leaves. Justin - Summary: Steve is upset because he feels the other party isnt listening and isnt usuing sense. Phillip - I'd like to as a group sit down with binding arbitration. I want to see people contribute. I dont want people to leave. SO do something! Paul - As a nonmember, I'd volunteer my services over hiring a real mediator. Cause this is group therapy. I've got not no dog in this fight. Torrie - I will not be back until the 22. Justin - I want discuss problems with the website. Devin - There were also signs hung on the door and website graffitti. Justin - It is from a residential account. It points to a TDFisher web account. Torrie - What evidence do you have? Devin - *reads sign about 24/7 surveillance* Torrie - Have you considered others are upset? - We want to make sure whoever is doing that knows it is bad. Xander - If you're doing that please stop. Meeting is adhurned by Xander On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 1:01 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.comwrote: I think someone said said something about the WIFI was loading slow. I suggested that he mail it to the list so at least it's here. On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote: I can load it on my phone but not my computers --- Original Message --- From: Robert Rybicki rob...@robertrybicki.com Sent: May 13, 2014 11:22 PM To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14 What is the status of the website? I have heard from some that it is down but it has been working for me and G said it worked for him. Is this a selective DOS attack? Rob Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 7:53 PM, William Schaffer wschaff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, here are the meeting minutes for today's meeting 5/13/14. I was not able to upload them to the website because of its status, so I've attached them to this email as I was instructed. Please note that Steve took notes for the first part of the meeting, and that I took notes for the last part of the meeting. If you have any questions, please let me know! Thanks, -Will -- Very Respectfully, William G. Schaffer 330-752-3328 The University of Akron minutes ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
Andrew,
To address a few points in your email:
Your point 2:
The interview was not a bit hostile but was blatantly hostile toward AJ9 in a
way that gave the impression that Torrie was looking for some sort of
confrontation. I actually applaud AJ9's composure throughout the ordeal and
find Torrie attitude, not questions, despicable.
Your point 3:
I actually agree with this, I feel it is too important of a group to just be
done without some sort of proposal and approval by the membership as a whole.
Your point 5:
I believe Justin gave evidence to support the claim of the webpage.
I don't disagree with you on issues to disagree, just wanted to provide some
light on things and give my experience of the situations.
-Steve
--- Original Message ---
From: a l leit...@gmail.com
Sent: May 15, 2014 12:34 AM
To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
Sorry for the double post. I didn't want my comments to get mistaken as
meeting minutes. I tried to put headings on things in case people didn't
want to read a lengthy email
1) Apparently I wasn't clear with my wording regarding Wills membership. I
('the secretary') did not say that 'Everything is ok, and last weeks vote
is upheld.. What I said was Last week was a fairly involved interview,
you don't need to do that again. Be sure his(and AJ9's) memberships get
brought up. Meaning his membership needs voted/consented on properly at
this meeting.
That said: no one expressed any desire to block his joining and no one
protested at the meeting.
2) While AJ9's interview was a bit hostile those are important questions
that need asked more frequently by more people. If someone has no idea how
or why we govern the way we do how can we expect them to follow the rules
and help build a better community? Perhaps you could respond to the some of
the questions via email? Particularly consensus and do-ocracy. Feel free
disagree with them! We're an organic collaboration(or at least bill
ourselves as such), we won't grow if we don't get new ideas. On that note,
I'm going to add a question of my own: You mention you're interested in
non-profit work and need a cause to work with right now. What draws you to
SynHak compared to the other non-profits in the area?
3)Regarding the Community Working Group. There is already a proposal that a
few people have contributed ideas to. I feel that since this changes the
way we govern ourselves that it does warrant a full blown proposal. If we
want the suggestions to carry any weight when they are made it needs to be
part of the operating procedures. Xander brought up the idea of formalizing
the face to face mediation style and incorporating it into the proposal.
Having a few mediation templates is a great idea. My only concern is that
we not require them to be used. Getting the disputing parties to
communicate is goal 1A. How they do it is less important so long as they
both agree to it and it occurs in a timely manner.
I'm not convinced that using fractal groups will help. We are(were?) a
community, intentionally dividing us further seems counter productive and
bureaucratic. By having more mailing lists to subscribe to it makes it far
easier for a member to be out of the loop on things that may affect them.
People are lazy.
4) The front door. The landlord has told us not to modify it. Would we be
able to convince him to change his mind if we(or a mutually approved
price-quoted-prior-to-work contractor) replaced it in such a manner that
did not prevent the easy re-installation of the original door? We need to
balance our members physical safety with their perception of safety. By
installing a door with a push bar we could still 'lock' the door so outside
entry was not possible during the odd hours but in the event of a fire you
could get out.
5) If we're going to assign blame and distribute penalties to someone for
various signs, graffiti and other unexcellent behavior I want verified
proof.
6) Last one I promise. Will's key application. You're a new member and a
new face to the community. I like your enthusiasm and apologize that this
is going to come off as an attack, it is not. You want the keys to the
castle but a couple meetings back you were concerned with not knowing
anyone. 24/7 is a lot of trust. Not only that our key holders won't strip
the warehouse for machines and copper but that they'll lock up when they
leave and be excellent hosts to visitors from the public. I don't expect
everyone to know every other member as best friends but I find it hard to
put faith in someone we've just met.
Admittedly my recent and future attendance is lackluster so I welcome
people's anecdotes to instill faith in me about this.
One last time: None of the above are meant to be personal attacks. If any
wording can be construed as such I would appreciate it if you attribute to
poor proofreading, failure to appreciate the situation, and hasty word
choice.
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed
[SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
Hi all, here are the meeting minutes for today's meeting 5/13/14. I was not able to upload them to the website because of its status, so I've attached them to this email as I was instructed. Please note that Steve took notes for the first part of the meeting, and that I took notes for the last part of the meeting. If you have any questions, please let me know! Thanks, -Will -- Very Respectfully, William G. Schaffer 330-752-3328 The University of Akron minutes Description: Binary data ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014
with
the proposal. There was however overwhelming support for some time period
of suspension of membership, though I don't think it affects much because I
feel that Torrie won't be showing up much at all anymore.
-Steve
--
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 00:36:12 -0400
From: leit...@gmail.com
To: discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014
A few things:
1) When you copy the template copy it from the page for that date. If
you must copy the meeting template from the template page be sure to remove
ALL of the formatting otherwise it is not only ugly to read but I'm sure
it's a pain to get onto the website.
2) When did Will submit his application? It was not announced to the
discuss list. Membership is a proposal you, cannot pass a membership
application or any other proposal without announcing it on the discuss
list.
3) I appreciate that many people have long winded talks but please if
you must paraphrase or summarize include their main talking points in the
minutes. Though we try to have a relaxed atmosphere and avoid being
official, taking accurate minutes not only helps us remember who said what
and why but these are legal documents required to be kept as part of our
incorporation. Something like why a person wishes to join SynHak is a very
important fact about them.
4) Banning, removing, suspending, or otherwise disenfranchising ANY
member without at least attempting to utilize the already proposed
community working group is beyond disappointing. These past few months have
been tense and have seen lots of unexcellent behavior out of more than a
few people who know how to conduct themselves in a civilized manner.
Removing a person or persons does not solve the problem when the issues
have spilled over so completely into meetings and mailing lists as they
have here. There are some deep-seated issues that need addressing.
Once again please read and provide input on the community working group
proposal if you note any deficiencies.
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com
wrote:
The meeting minutes were posted to the wiki but isn't showing up on the
page. Can be found at: https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-5-6
This page is used by [[User:Phong]] to generate meeting pages. The
structure of our meetings is defined by this template. For help, check out
[[User:Phong/Meetings]].
Anyone is welcome to edit this template to produce a new meeting
structure for future meetings. Phong creates the next meeting page 8 hours
after each meeting.
If you do edit it, be sure you also update the [[Next Meeting]]'s page
!-- ANYTHING ABOVE THE FOLLOWING LINE IS IGNORED --
phongTemplate
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If
you would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new
people present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the
appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new
members. If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email
them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document,
as the template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior
to proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Xander Golightley
* '''Moderator:''' Steve Radonich IV
== Introduction and Names ==
Chris - Do things
Mark Howard - Systems engineer IT dept. learning 3D printing, restore
cars
Heard about us through brother in-law
Andy - Do electronics
Mike - tech support
Chris N. Aubrey - break things
Devin - fix his broken things
Steve - take notes
Will - play with numbers
Craig - play with letters
Justin - sysadmin
AJ9 - help other people express themselves
Alex - eats stew
Becca - Forgets to make bread
Matt - independent
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014
Andrew, I was told that they discussed Will's application last week so it
was on the discuss list. It just wasn't in its own email as a proposal
though.
Also, there was discussion on what should be done but absolutely no action
was taken. Many of us agree that discussing ending the membership this was
premature. Please choose to look at this as hopeful that things are getting
better.
On May 9, 2014 12:36 AM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:
A few things:
1) When you copy the template copy it from the page for that date. If you
must copy the meeting template from the template page be sure to remove ALL
of the formatting otherwise it is not only ugly to read but I'm sure it's a
pain to get onto the website.
2) When did Will submit his application? It was not announced to the
discuss list. Membership is a proposal you, cannot pass a membership
application or any other proposal without announcing it on the discuss
list.
3) I appreciate that many people have long winded talks but please if you
must paraphrase or summarize include their main talking points in the
minutes. Though we try to have a relaxed atmosphere and avoid being
official, taking accurate minutes not only helps us remember who said what
and why but these are legal documents required to be kept as part of our
incorporation. Something like why a person wishes to join SynHak is a very
important fact about them.
4) Banning, removing, suspending, or otherwise disenfranchising ANY member
without at least attempting to utilize the already proposed community
working group is beyond disappointing. These past few months have been
tense and have seen lots of unexcellent behavior out of more than a few
people who know how to conduct themselves in a civilized manner. Removing a
person or persons does not solve the problem when the issues have spilled
over so completely into meetings and mailing lists as they have here. There
are some deep-seated issues that need addressing.
Once again please read and provide input on the community working group
proposal if you note any deficiencies.
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote:
The meeting minutes were posted to the wiki but isn't showing up on the
page. Can be found at: https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-5-6
This page is used by [[User:Phong]] to generate meeting pages. The
structure of our meetings is defined by this template. For help, check out
[[User:Phong/Meetings]].
Anyone is welcome to edit this template to produce a new meeting
structure for future meetings. Phong creates the next meeting page 8 hours
after each meeting.
If you do edit it, be sure you also update the [[Next Meeting]]'s page
!-- ANYTHING ABOVE THE FOLLOWING LINE IS IGNORED --
phongTemplate
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If
you would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new
people present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the
appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new
members. If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email
them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document,
as the template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Xander Golightley
* '''Moderator:''' Steve Radonich IV
== Introduction and Names ==
Chris - Do things
Mark Howard - Systems engineer IT dept. learning 3D printing, restore cars
Heard about us through brother in-law
Andy - Do electronics
Mike - tech support
Chris N. Aubrey - break things
Devin - fix his broken things
Steve - take notes
Will - play with numbers
Craig - play with letters
Justin - sysadmin
AJ9 - help other people express themselves
Alex - eats stew
Becca - Forgets to
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014
Just a few things I have to say in response to this.
I skipped over a small section, I should have gone in and added it back but I
forgot about it as things were going by so fast in the discussion. I also try
my hardest to keep as close to verbatim notes as I can, and have had no one
complain about them before. Considering the notes I took for the board meeting
were praised by the manager at BFG as being more concise than their board
meetings I'm pretty confident in my note taking skills.
As Xander stated it was a discussion, as that really was my intent with the
proposal. There was however overwhelming support for some time period of
suspension of membership, though I don't think it affects much because I feel
that Torrie won't be showing up much at all anymore.
-Steve
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 00:36:12 -0400
From: leit...@gmail.com
To: discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014
A few things:
1) When you copy the template copy it from the page for that date. If you must
copy the meeting template from the template page be sure to remove ALL of the
formatting otherwise it is not only ugly to read but I'm sure it's a pain to
get onto the website.
2) When did Will submit his application? It was not announced to the discuss
list. Membership is a proposal you, cannot pass a membership application or any
other proposal without announcing it on the discuss list.
3) I appreciate that many people have long winded talks but please if you must
paraphrase or summarize include their main talking points in the minutes.
Though we try to have a relaxed atmosphere and avoid being official, taking
accurate minutes not only helps us remember who said what and why but these are
legal documents required to be kept as part of our incorporation. Something
like why a person wishes to join SynHak is a very important fact about them.
4) Banning, removing, suspending, or otherwise disenfranchising ANY member
without at least attempting to utilize the already proposed community working
group is beyond disappointing. These past few months have been tense and have
seen lots of unexcellent behavior out of more than a few people who know how to
conduct themselves in a civilized manner. Removing a person or persons does not
solve the problem when the issues have spilled over so completely into meetings
and mailing lists as they have here. There are some deep-seated issues that
need addressing.
Once again please read and provide input on the community working group
proposal if you note any deficiencies.
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote:
The meeting minutes were posted to the wiki but isn't showing up on the page.
Can be found at: https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-5-6
This page is used by [[User:Phong]] to generate meeting pages. The structure of
our meetings is defined by this template. For help, check out
[[User:Phong/Meetings]].
Anyone is welcome to edit this template to produce a new meeting structure for
future meetings. Phong creates the next meeting page 8 hours after each meeting.
If you do edit it, be sure you also update the [[Next Meeting]]'s page
!-- ANYTHING ABOVE THE FOLLOWING LINE IS IGNORED --
phongTemplate
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If you
would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new people
present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new members.
If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as the
template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Xander Golightley
* '''Moderator:''' Steve
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014
Just a point of reflection. I have been to MANY nonprofit and committee
meetings and NOT ONE have had as detailed notes that SynHak has.
Thank you to all the participants, moderators, and recorders. The only
place I have seen better recording has been with transcriptions
(stop/replay) and court recorders (those people are crazy good)
Remember that none of us are paid to do this. :)
Justin
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote:
Just a few things I have to say in response to this.
I skipped over a small section, I should have gone in and added it back
but I forgot about it as things were going by so fast in the discussion. I
also try my hardest to keep as close to verbatim notes as I can, and have
had no one complain about them before. Considering the notes I took for the
board meeting were praised by the manager at BFG as being more concise than
their board meetings I'm pretty confident in my note taking skills.
As Xander stated it was a discussion, as that really was my intent with
the proposal. There was however overwhelming support for some time period
of suspension of membership, though I don't think it affects much because I
feel that Torrie won't be showing up much at all anymore.
-Steve
--
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 00:36:12 -0400
From: leit...@gmail.com
To: discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014
A few things:
1) When you copy the template copy it from the page for that date. If you
must copy the meeting template from the template page be sure to remove ALL
of the formatting otherwise it is not only ugly to read but I'm sure it's a
pain to get onto the website.
2) When did Will submit his application? It was not announced to the
discuss list. Membership is a proposal you, cannot pass a membership
application or any other proposal without announcing it on the discuss
list.
3) I appreciate that many people have long winded talks but please if you
must paraphrase or summarize include their main talking points in the
minutes. Though we try to have a relaxed atmosphere and avoid being
official, taking accurate minutes not only helps us remember who said what
and why but these are legal documents required to be kept as part of our
incorporation. Something like why a person wishes to join SynHak is a very
important fact about them.
4) Banning, removing, suspending, or otherwise disenfranchising ANY member
without at least attempting to utilize the already proposed community
working group is beyond disappointing. These past few months have been
tense and have seen lots of unexcellent behavior out of more than a few
people who know how to conduct themselves in a civilized manner. Removing a
person or persons does not solve the problem when the issues have spilled
over so completely into meetings and mailing lists as they have here. There
are some deep-seated issues that need addressing.
Once again please read and provide input on the community working group
proposal if you note any deficiencies.
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote:
The meeting minutes were posted to the wiki but isn't showing up on the
page. Can be found at: https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-5-6
This page is used by [[User:Phong]] to generate meeting pages. The
structure of our meetings is defined by this template. For help, check out
[[User:Phong/Meetings]].
Anyone is welcome to edit this template to produce a new meeting structure
for future meetings. Phong creates the next meeting page 8 hours after each
meeting.
If you do edit it, be sure you also update the [[Next Meeting]]'s page
!-- ANYTHING ABOVE THE FOLLOWING LINE IS IGNORED --
phongTemplate
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If
you would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new
people present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate
time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new
members. If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email
them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014
Regardless of how other organizations conduct their business, accurate minutes are important since not everyone can attend every meeting. For the most part our minutes are excellent and thanks go out to those who volunteer to take minutes. I was just pointing out the need for an accurate summary of why Anna-Jeannine wants to join SynHak. I will edit the minutes to include her reason as stated on her application when I get a chance to see her membership application. Regarding Wills application. I looked at the minutes for last Weeks meeting and saw no mention about him applying in the membership section or the discussion section. The membership section actually states no new applications. Discussion only reflects him asking if he needed to know his sponsors and people advising him to attend a few meetings and get to know us. Everyone through direct experience should have a vague notion that there needs to be a discussion on the mailing list about any and all proposals. I have not read every piece of mail sent through the mailing list since last week, so if someone can point out the discussion that apparently happened and announcement of Wills application that would be great. If no discussion on the mailing list has taken place his approval for membership is not valid. If one did in fact occur buried in some unrelated thread, please do not repeat this in the future. Every proposal requires its own thread for clarity and on the off chance that someone wants to block it. This is not a personal attack on Will and this in no way reflects any intent to prohibit his admittance to SynHak. We have rules on how we make proposals and admit new members. I will direct everyone to the proposals page* and meeting minutes from 2013-01-22^ for clarification. The summary is: New membership applications must be announced on the list at least 3 days in advance( ie; Saturday morning). If you are unhappy with how SynHak operates feel free to submit a proposal to address the situation. We have these rules to facilitate collaboration within our community. * https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals/Approved ^ https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-01-22 regards, Andrew L On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Just a point of reflection. I have been to MANY nonprofit and committee meetings and NOT ONE have had as detailed notes that SynHak has. Thank you to all the participants, moderators, and recorders. The only place I have seen better recording has been with transcriptions (stop/replay) and court recorders (those people are crazy good) Remember that none of us are paid to do this. :) Justin On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote: Just a few things I have to say in response to this. I skipped over a small section, I should have gone in and added it back but I forgot about it as things were going by so fast in the discussion. I also try my hardest to keep as close to verbatim notes as I can, and have had no one complain about them before. Considering the notes I took for the board meeting were praised by the manager at BFG as being more concise than their board meetings I'm pretty confident in my note taking skills. As Xander stated it was a discussion, as that really was my intent with the proposal. There was however overwhelming support for some time period of suspension of membership, though I don't think it affects much because I feel that Torrie won't be showing up much at all anymore. -Steve -- Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 00:36:12 -0400 From: leit...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014 A few things: 1) When you copy the template copy it from the page for that date. If you must copy the meeting template from the template page be sure to remove ALL of the formatting otherwise it is not only ugly to read but I'm sure it's a pain to get onto the website. 2) When did Will submit his application? It was not announced to the discuss list. Membership is a proposal you, cannot pass a membership application or any other proposal without announcing it on the discuss list. 3) I appreciate that many people have long winded talks but please if you must paraphrase or summarize include their main talking points in the minutes. Though we try to have a relaxed atmosphere and avoid being official, taking accurate minutes not only helps us remember who said what and why but these are legal documents required to be kept as part of our incorporation. Something like why a person wishes to join SynHak is a very important fact about them. 4) Banning, removing, suspending, or otherwise disenfranchising ANY member without at least attempting to utilize the already proposed community working group is beyond disappointing. These past few months have been tense and have seen lots of unexcellent behavior out of more than a few people who know how
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014
I was at both meetings and can say with certainty it was brought up at the meeting properly, if it was documented properly or not I don't know. He is new to us, and came to us in a time of different people doing different things each week. I can't find anything referencing him, but this is our fault (not his) On May 9, 2014 8:42 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: Regardless of how other organizations conduct their business, accurate minutes are important since not everyone can attend every meeting. For the most part our minutes are excellent and thanks go out to those who volunteer to take minutes. I was just pointing out the need for an accurate summary of why Anna-Jeannine wants to join SynHak. I will edit the minutes to include her reason as stated on her application when I get a chance to see her membership application. Regarding Wills application. I looked at the minutes for last Weeks meeting and saw no mention about him applying in the membership section or the discussion section. The membership section actually states no new applications. Discussion only reflects him asking if he needed to know his sponsors and people advising him to attend a few meetings and get to know us. Everyone through direct experience should have a vague notion that there needs to be a discussion on the mailing list about any and all proposals. I have not read every piece of mail sent through the mailing list since last week, so if someone can point out the discussion that apparently happened and announcement of Wills application that would be great. If no discussion on the mailing list has taken place his approval for membership is not valid. If one did in fact occur buried in some unrelated thread, please do not repeat this in the future. Every proposal requires its own thread for clarity and on the off chance that someone wants to block it. This is not a personal attack on Will and this in no way reflects any intent to prohibit his admittance to SynHak. We have rules on how we make proposals and admit new members. I will direct everyone to the proposals page* and meeting minutes from 2013-01-22^ for clarification. The summary is: New membership applications must be announced on the list at least 3 days in advance( ie; Saturday morning). If you are unhappy with how SynHak operates feel free to submit a proposal to address the situation. We have these rules to facilitate collaboration within our community. * https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals/Approved ^ https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-01-22 regards, Andrew L On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Just a point of reflection. I have been to MANY nonprofit and committee meetings and NOT ONE have had as detailed notes that SynHak has. Thank you to all the participants, moderators, and recorders. The only place I have seen better recording has been with transcriptions (stop/replay) and court recorders (those people are crazy good) Remember that none of us are paid to do this. :) Justin On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote: Just a few things I have to say in response to this. I skipped over a small section, I should have gone in and added it back but I forgot about it as things were going by so fast in the discussion. I also try my hardest to keep as close to verbatim notes as I can, and have had no one complain about them before. Considering the notes I took for the board meeting were praised by the manager at BFG as being more concise than their board meetings I'm pretty confident in my note taking skills. As Xander stated it was a discussion, as that really was my intent with the proposal. There was however overwhelming support for some time period of suspension of membership, though I don't think it affects much because I feel that Torrie won't be showing up much at all anymore. -Steve -- Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 00:36:12 -0400 From: leit...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014 A few things: 1) When you copy the template copy it from the page for that date. If you must copy the meeting template from the template page be sure to remove ALL of the formatting otherwise it is not only ugly to read but I'm sure it's a pain to get onto the website. 2) When did Will submit his application? It was not announced to the discuss list. Membership is a proposal you, cannot pass a membership application or any other proposal without announcing it on the discuss list. 3) I appreciate that many people have long winded talks but please if you must paraphrase or summarize include their main talking points in the minutes. Though we try to have a relaxed atmosphere and avoid being official, taking accurate minutes not only helps us remember who said what and why but these are legal documents required to be kept as part of our incorporation
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014
A few things:
1) When you copy the template copy it from the page for that date. If you
must copy the meeting template from the template page be sure to remove ALL
of the formatting otherwise it is not only ugly to read but I'm sure it's a
pain to get onto the website.
2) When did Will submit his application? It was not announced to the
discuss list. Membership is a proposal you, cannot pass a membership
application or any other proposal without announcing it on the discuss
list.
3) I appreciate that many people have long winded talks but please if you
must paraphrase or summarize include their main talking points in the
minutes. Though we try to have a relaxed atmosphere and avoid being
official, taking accurate minutes not only helps us remember who said what
and why but these are legal documents required to be kept as part of our
incorporation. Something like why a person wishes to join SynHak is a very
important fact about them.
4) Banning, removing, suspending, or otherwise disenfranchising ANY member
without at least attempting to utilize the already proposed community
working group is beyond disappointing. These past few months have been
tense and have seen lots of unexcellent behavior out of more than a few
people who know how to conduct themselves in a civilized manner. Removing a
person or persons does not solve the problem when the issues have spilled
over so completely into meetings and mailing lists as they have here. There
are some deep-seated issues that need addressing.
Once again please read and provide input on the community working group
proposal if you note any deficiencies.
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote:
The meeting minutes were posted to the wiki but isn't showing up on the
page. Can be found at: https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-5-6
This page is used by [[User:Phong]] to generate meeting pages. The
structure of our meetings is defined by this template. For help, check out
[[User:Phong/Meetings]].
Anyone is welcome to edit this template to produce a new meeting structure
for future meetings. Phong creates the next meeting page 8 hours after each
meeting.
If you do edit it, be sure you also update the [[Next Meeting]]'s page
!-- ANYTHING ABOVE THE FOLLOWING LINE IS IGNORED --
phongTemplate
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If
you would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new
people present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate
time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new
members. If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email
them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as
the template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Xander Golightley
* '''Moderator:''' Steve Radonich IV
== Introduction and Names ==
Chris - Do things
Mark Howard - Systems engineer IT dept. learning 3D printing, restore cars
Heard about us through brother in-law
Andy - Do electronics
Mike - tech support
Chris N. Aubrey - break things
Devin - fix his broken things
Steve - take notes
Will - play with numbers
Craig - play with letters
Justin - sysadmin
AJ9 - help other people express themselves
Alex - eats stew
Becca - Forgets to make bread
Matt - independent IT consultant, curry hacker
Xander - dissappear
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
Chris - Yesterday I resigned as champion so don't come to me with problems
anymore
Craig - Oddmall 10 May
Alex - Derbycon, already got tickets
Devin - I am now interim treasurer, and have help from the group
Matt - Apartment across the hall from
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes
Will someone please post the meeting minutes from last night on the wiki and discuss list? Thank you Rob Sent from my iPhone ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes
They're on the wiki and phony should have posted it to discuss. I'm not home right now but can check it when I get there --- Original Message --- From: Robert Rybicki rob...@robertrybicki.com Sent: May 7, 2014 2:39 PM To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Subject: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes Will someone please post the meeting minutes from last night on the wiki and discuss list? Thank you Rob Sent from my iPhone ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes from 5/6/2014
The meeting minutes were posted to the wiki but isn't showing up on the page.
Can be found at: https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-5-6
This page is used by [[User:Phong]] to generate meeting pages. The structure of
our meetings is defined by this template. For help, check out
[[User:Phong/Meetings]].
Anyone is welcome to edit this template to produce a new meeting structure for
future meetings. Phong creates the next meeting page 8 hours after each meeting.
If you do edit it, be sure you also update the [[Next Meeting]]'s page
!-- ANYTHING ABOVE THE FOLLOWING LINE IS IGNORED --
phongTemplate
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If you
would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new people
present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new members.
If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as the
template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Xander Golightley
* '''Moderator:''' Steve Radonich IV
== Introduction and Names ==
Chris - Do things
Mark Howard - Systems engineer IT dept. learning 3D printing, restore cars
Heard about us through brother in-law
Andy - Do electronics
Mike - tech support
Chris N. Aubrey - break things
Devin - fix his broken things
Steve - take notes
Will - play with numbers
Craig - play with letters
Justin - sysadmin
AJ9 - help other people express themselves
Alex - eats stew
Becca - Forgets to make bread
Matt - independent IT consultant, curry hacker
Xander - dissappear
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
Chris - Yesterday I resigned as champion so don't come to me with problems
anymore
Craig - Oddmall 10 May
Alex - Derbycon, already got tickets
Devin - I am now interim treasurer, and have help from the group
Matt - Apartment across the hall from me is available
Becca - Still collecting old t-shirts, they will be destroyed and made into
something new
Alex - Sundown rundown is May 15, I'm actually going to do a talk there
G - National day of civic hacking, not planned for Akron yet but
gsvolt.wordpress.com call for help, May 31 - June 1 Knight Foundation wants to
know if SYNHAK has something we'd want to do.
G - Next akron linux user group meeting is an important one, maintainer of bash
is going to be there giving a speech, I'm commiting to schedule language
meetings, for those who want to learn or share information. June 5th
Justin - Cleveland B-sides July 19th
== Membership ==
Anna-Jeannine Herman
Why: REALLY, REALLY LONG
Sponsors: Rebecca Salchak
Andy Buczko
Craig - About Time
Devin - Mention Torchbearer's?
AJ9 - I'm a torchbearer :D Created to attract and retain young professionals in
Akron
Name: Will Schaffer
Why: Have a voice and be a tangible part of SYNHAK's future, also be eligible
to hold a key.
Sponsors: Becca Salchak
Omar Rassi
Becca - What makes you happy?
Will - Summer, excited to be done with school. Playing with computers, need to
be around people that actually know about computers.
Craig - Dog or Cat?
Will - Cat in the winter, dog summer
Mike - are you of drinking age?
Will - No.
Alex - What do you want synhak to do for you?
Will - Mostly the infrastructure, and a knowledge resource
Chris - What's your favorite beer?
Will - rootbeer
Becca - Whats your favorite dessert?
Will - Ice cream
Justin - What do you think you could help teach us?
Will - Taking digital logic design, so I know a lot. Would love to teach stuff
about that
Mike - Interested in applying for a key, whats the biggest thing that would
facilitate for you?
Will - Closed a lot,
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-29
Guten Tag, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-29 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-29. I've also included them in this
mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-29
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-5-6
|previous=Meetings/2014-4-22
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If you
would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new people
present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new members.
If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as the
template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
* '''Moderator:''' Becca
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
Robert R's Grampa, REtired Study of Law.
Jen, Stay at home mom
Robert, likes to invent
Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
Mike, pressed the button
STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
Matt, updates software
Matt, Deathray enthusiast
Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from Clev Pub Library
Joe, retired mechanic
Craig, flips cars
G, restores bycicles, for kiks
Andy, computer tomography machines
Chris, untapps
Will, gots a new phone
Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service, with MAtt, G, and
Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
== Announcements ==
Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
informal annoucnement Akron Minimaker fair October 18th 11-4pm Akron Bublic
Library, main branch
Names Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes working mini trains, in
Michigan
Shop Saftey tomorrow 8pm
--close toed shoes
-long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
-long pants
-stick with cottons
Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
== Membership ==
Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't skype into a
meeting, or join via proxy
G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a non-tuesday enabled person?
Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting to address a new
member app.
* Read off any names open for application-
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
none reported
== Proposals ==
no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions proposal
open: proposals -see proposal page https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
hACKER GRANT
Becca- would like to see a proposal that focusses on the greatest good with the
grant money, instead of whittling down until we come up with a great idea that
we don't have money for any more.
-Matt, Mozilla is broke from funding women programmers
Robert's Gpaw- that's the Govt's governance that put a hole in the bottom of
that boat.
Steve-before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what we want to
do with this, before we start spending it.
Andy, machine shop walls, still getting quotes for materials, Carter Lumber was
not so helpful as of yet
-wants to make a trip to Restore for steel firedoors
Chris, do we have a plan of where doors/walls, windows, -will there be pet
doors?
Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
Roberts Key proposal:
will not be here without an adult
where to keep key so it's not lost? maybe get a key lanyard and hang it up
where other keys are kept at home.
Robert's key
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-29
Can someone please post the minutes to discuss@ then so I can get them
onto the wiki? I'm not sure what happened here with the minutes.
Thanks,
Chris
On 4/30/2014 8:43 AM, Michael Griesacker wrote:
these are last weeks notes, Steve was the note taker, Alex moderated
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org
mailto:ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Guten Tag, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-29 and that the
minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-29. I've also included
them in this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-29
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-5-6
|previous=Meetings/2014-4-22
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how
meetings future perform, please make any modifications to
[[Meetings/Template]]. If you would like to propose something at
the meeting, send it to propos...@synhak.org
mailto:propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there
are new people present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the
appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org mailto:treasu...@synhak.org and
secret...@synhak.org mailto:secret...@synhak.org if there are
new members. If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no
need to email them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this
document, as the template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members
prior to proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
* '''Moderator:''' Becca
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
Robert R's Grampa, REtired Study of Law.
Jen, Stay at home mom
Robert, likes to invent
Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
Mike, pressed the button
STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
Matt, updates software
Matt, Deathray enthusiast
Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from Clev
Pub Library
Joe, retired mechanic
Craig, flips cars
G, restores bycicles, for kiks
Andy, computer tomography machines
Chris, untapps
Will, gots a new phone
Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service, with
MAtt, G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
== Announcements ==
Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
informal annoucnement Akron Minimaker fair October 18th 11-4pm
Akron Bublic Library, main branch
Names Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes working
mini trains, in Michigan
Shop Saftey tomorrow 8pm
--close toed shoes
-long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
-long pants
-stick with cottons
Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
== Membership ==
Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't skype
into a meeting, or join via proxy
G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a non-tuesday
enabled person?
Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting to
address a new member app.
* Read off any names open for application-
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
none reported
== Proposals ==
no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
open: proposals -see proposal page https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
hACKER GRANT
Becca- would like to see a proposal that focusses on the greatest
good with the grant
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-22
ok
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Michael Griesacker
mgriesac...@gmail.comwrote:
Andy, first time note taker was being silly. Chris didn't ask about
windows or pet doors either, just doors.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Andrew Buczko
a4s...@dsprototyping.comwrote:
* Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
^ I did not say that. I said Yes, the plans are in my car, I can get
them if you want. I don't remember anything about a pet door.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote:
On 4/23/2014 2:43 PM, a l wrote:
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
It is unclear if this was consented and if so what the wording of the
proposal is/was. Could someone who remembers the conversation update the
minutes?
At last night's meeting, this was discussed, not consented to. At last
week's meeting (04-15-2014), this was brought up as a discussion item, not
a proposal. As such, last night's discussion (04-22-2014) was, technically
speaking, the first meeting it was discussed as a proposal.
The proposal in question is available to view here:
https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-April/008175.html
No changes to the wording of this proposal was discussed or agreed to
last night. As such, this proposal will undergo the consensus process at
next week's meeting.
Regarding Hacker grants: Since Torrie proposed this and will not be at
meetings in the near future could someone who understands her vision please
answer a few questions I have? The following is the current wording:
*I'm proposing that we allocate $5400 of our recent $15k knight
foundation grant to, each month, give $150 to a hacker with great ideas who
applies for it *
* $5,400 is a lot of money to ear mark for one project with uncertain
terms. It is in fact 3 years worth(at the proposed 150/mo) of hacker grants
as well as over 1/3 of our total grant monies. Could we lower this dollar
amount? perhaps to $1,800 offering 1 years worth of mini-grants instead. We
can always revisit the idea after one year.
* What exactly is the application process and constitutes 'great
ideas'. If two people apply in the same month how do we decide between
them? Two in the same hour? If only one person applies does that guarantee
them the money? What's the application deadline?
* Do we hand people a check for $150 or refund reciepts?
* It sounds like this is open to the public, how do we best promote
this?
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.comwrote:
Regarding the hacker grants proposal, I have a question for Steve.
Steve said, before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what
we want to do with this, before we start spending it.
Isn't that what we're doing with the proposed expenditure on funding
mini-hacker grants? By discussing spending money on hacker grants, we are
in fact discussing how we're going to spend money. What sort of discussion
were you looking to have on this?
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Chris Egeland
ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote:
The link has been properly updated.
Here are the minutes:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
* '''Moderator:''' Becca
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Ed, Robert R's Grampa, Retired Study of Law.
* Jen, Stay at home mom
* Robert, likes to invent
* Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
* Mike, pressed the button
* STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
* Matt, updates software
* Matt, Deathray enthusiast
* Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from Clev Pub
Library
* Joe, retired mechanic
* Craig, flips cars
* G, restores bycicles, for kiks
* Andy, computer tomography machines
* Chris, untapps
* Will, gots a new phone
* Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service, with
MAtt, G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
== Announcements ==
* Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
* Informal announcement Akron Mini Maker Faire October 18th 11-4pm
Akron Bublic Library, main branch
* NAMES Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes working mini
trains, in Michigan
* Shop Safety tomorrow 8pm
** Closed toed shoes
** Long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
** long pants
** stick with cottons
* Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
== Membership ==
* Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't skype
into a meeting, or join via proxy
** G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a non-tuesday
enabled person?
** Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
** Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting to
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-22
* Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
^ I did not say that. I said Yes, the plans are in my car, I can get them
if you want. I don't remember anything about a pet door.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote:
On 4/23/2014 2:43 PM, a l wrote:
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
It is unclear if this was consented and if so what the wording of the
proposal is/was. Could someone who remembers the conversation update the
minutes?
At last night's meeting, this was discussed, not consented to. At last
week's meeting (04-15-2014), this was brought up as a discussion item, not
a proposal. As such, last night's discussion (04-22-2014) was, technically
speaking, the first meeting it was discussed as a proposal.
The proposal in question is available to view here:
https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-April/008175.html
No changes to the wording of this proposal was discussed or agreed to last
night. As such, this proposal will undergo the consensus process at next
week's meeting.
Regarding Hacker grants: Since Torrie proposed this and will not be at
meetings in the near future could someone who understands her vision please
answer a few questions I have? The following is the current wording:
*I'm proposing that we allocate $5400 of our recent $15k knight
foundation grant to, each month, give $150 to a hacker with great ideas who
applies for it *
* $5,400 is a lot of money to ear mark for one project with uncertain
terms. It is in fact 3 years worth(at the proposed 150/mo) of hacker grants
as well as over 1/3 of our total grant monies. Could we lower this dollar
amount? perhaps to $1,800 offering 1 years worth of mini-grants instead. We
can always revisit the idea after one year.
* What exactly is the application process and constitutes 'great ideas'.
If two people apply in the same month how do we decide between them? Two in
the same hour? If only one person applies does that guarantee them the
money? What's the application deadline?
* Do we hand people a check for $150 or refund reciepts?
* It sounds like this is open to the public, how do we best promote this?
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding the hacker grants proposal, I have a question for Steve.
Steve said, before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what
we want to do with this, before we start spending it.
Isn't that what we're doing with the proposed expenditure on funding
mini-hacker grants? By discussing spending money on hacker grants, we are
in fact discussing how we're going to spend money. What sort of discussion
were you looking to have on this?
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote:
The link has been properly updated.
Here are the minutes:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
* '''Moderator:''' Becca
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Ed, Robert R's Grampa, Retired Study of Law.
* Jen, Stay at home mom
* Robert, likes to invent
* Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
* Mike, pressed the button
* STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
* Matt, updates software
* Matt, Deathray enthusiast
* Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from Clev Pub
Library
* Joe, retired mechanic
* Craig, flips cars
* G, restores bycicles, for kiks
* Andy, computer tomography machines
* Chris, untapps
* Will, gots a new phone
* Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service, with MAtt,
G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
== Announcements ==
* Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
* Informal announcement Akron Mini Maker Faire October 18th 11-4pm
Akron Bublic Library, main branch
* NAMES Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes working mini
trains, in Michigan
* Shop Safety tomorrow 8pm
** Closed toed shoes
** Long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
** long pants
** stick with cottons
* Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
== Membership ==
* Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't skype into
a meeting, or join via proxy
** G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a non-tuesday enabled
person?
** Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
** Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting to
address a new member app.
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
none reported
== Proposals ==
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
open: proposals -see proposal page https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
* Hacker Grants
**
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-22
Andy, first time note taker was being silly. Chris didn't ask about
windows or pet doors either, just doors.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.comwrote:
* Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
^ I did not say that. I said Yes, the plans are in my car, I can get them
if you want. I don't remember anything about a pet door.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote:
On 4/23/2014 2:43 PM, a l wrote:
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
It is unclear if this was consented and if so what the wording of the
proposal is/was. Could someone who remembers the conversation update the
minutes?
At last night's meeting, this was discussed, not consented to. At last
week's meeting (04-15-2014), this was brought up as a discussion item, not
a proposal. As such, last night's discussion (04-22-2014) was, technically
speaking, the first meeting it was discussed as a proposal.
The proposal in question is available to view here:
https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-April/008175.html
No changes to the wording of this proposal was discussed or agreed to
last night. As such, this proposal will undergo the consensus process at
next week's meeting.
Regarding Hacker grants: Since Torrie proposed this and will not be at
meetings in the near future could someone who understands her vision please
answer a few questions I have? The following is the current wording:
*I'm proposing that we allocate $5400 of our recent $15k knight
foundation grant to, each month, give $150 to a hacker with great ideas who
applies for it *
* $5,400 is a lot of money to ear mark for one project with uncertain
terms. It is in fact 3 years worth(at the proposed 150/mo) of hacker grants
as well as over 1/3 of our total grant monies. Could we lower this dollar
amount? perhaps to $1,800 offering 1 years worth of mini-grants instead. We
can always revisit the idea after one year.
* What exactly is the application process and constitutes 'great ideas'.
If two people apply in the same month how do we decide between them? Two in
the same hour? If only one person applies does that guarantee them the
money? What's the application deadline?
* Do we hand people a check for $150 or refund reciepts?
* It sounds like this is open to the public, how do we best promote this?
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.comwrote:
Regarding the hacker grants proposal, I have a question for Steve.
Steve said, before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what
we want to do with this, before we start spending it.
Isn't that what we're doing with the proposed expenditure on funding
mini-hacker grants? By discussing spending money on hacker grants, we are
in fact discussing how we're going to spend money. What sort of discussion
were you looking to have on this?
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Chris Egeland
ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote:
The link has been properly updated.
Here are the minutes:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
* '''Moderator:''' Becca
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Ed, Robert R's Grampa, Retired Study of Law.
* Jen, Stay at home mom
* Robert, likes to invent
* Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
* Mike, pressed the button
* STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
* Matt, updates software
* Matt, Deathray enthusiast
* Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from Clev Pub
Library
* Joe, retired mechanic
* Craig, flips cars
* G, restores bycicles, for kiks
* Andy, computer tomography machines
* Chris, untapps
* Will, gots a new phone
* Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service, with
MAtt, G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
== Announcements ==
* Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
* Informal announcement Akron Mini Maker Faire October 18th 11-4pm
Akron Bublic Library, main branch
* NAMES Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes working mini
trains, in Michigan
* Shop Safety tomorrow 8pm
** Closed toed shoes
** Long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
** long pants
** stick with cottons
* Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
== Membership ==
* Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't skype
into a meeting, or join via proxy
** G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a non-tuesday enabled
person?
** Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
** Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting to
address a new member app.
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
none reported
==
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-22
こんにちは, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-22 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-22. I've also included them in this
mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-22
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-29
|previous=Meetings/2014-4-15
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If you
would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new people
present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new members.
If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as the
template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' FIXME
* '''Moderator:''' FIXME
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if anyone new
is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to make
things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help others learn
new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and depends on
membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals such as ourselves.
Our code of conduct is Be excellent to each other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
== Proposals ==
* Check the page at [[Proposals/Open]].
== Discussion Items ==
If an item of discussion drags on too long, further discussion may be postponed
until after the meeting ends.
During discussion, it is not necessary to write down exactly what each person
says. Record the topics of discussion, and any items of consensus or
controversy here. Detailed descriptions of the conversation should go on the
discuss page for this meeting.
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* Delete the Instructions section at the top of this page.
* Post the notes to the wiki
* Notify treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org about new members
(unless they are present at the meeting)
* Discuss any items for which there was not enough time during the meeting
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-22
Where are the minutes?
-Andrew L
On Apr 23, 2014 8:34 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
こんにちは, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-22 and that the minutes
are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-22. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-22
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-29
|previous=Meetings/2014-4-15
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If
you would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new
people present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate
time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new
members. If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email
them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as
the template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' FIXME
* '''Moderator:''' FIXME
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if anyone
new is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to
make things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help
others learn new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and
depends on membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals
such as ourselves. Our code of conduct is Be excellent to each
other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
== Proposals ==
* Check the page at [[Proposals/Open]].
== Discussion Items ==
If an item of discussion drags on too long, further discussion may be
postponed until after the meeting ends.
During discussion, it is not necessary to write down exactly what each
person says. Record the topics of discussion, and any items of consensus or
controversy here. Detailed descriptions of the conversation should go on
the discuss page for this meeting.
= End of Meeting =
* Delete the Instructions section at the top of this page.
* Post the notes to the wiki
* Notify treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org about new members
(unless they are present at the meeting)
* Discuss any items for which there was not enough time during the meeting
* Delete this bit of magical text, which lets [[User:Phong]] know that the
minutes are ready for distribution to de...@synhak.org:
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-22
They were accidentally posted to Meetings/Template instead of the
correct page. I'm fixing the formatting then posting them on the
correct page. Give it about 10-20 minutes.
Chris
On 4/23/2014 8:51 AM, a l wrote:
Where are the minutes?
-Andrew L
On Apr 23, 2014 8:34 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org
mailto:ph...@synhak.org wrote:
ã?ã,ã?«ã?¡ã?¯, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-22 and that the
minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-22. I've also included
them in this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-22
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-29
|previous=Meetings/2014-4-15
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how
meetings future perform, please make any modifications to
[[Meetings/Template]]. If you would like to propose something at
the meeting, send it to propos...@synhak.org
mailto:propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there
are new people present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the
appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org mailto:treasu...@synhak.org and
secret...@synhak.org mailto:secret...@synhak.org if there are
new members. If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no
need to email them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this
document, as the template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members
prior to proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' FIXME
* '''Moderator:''' FIXME
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about,
if anyone new is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who
want to make things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and
infrastructure to help others learn new skills and create cool
things. SYNHAK exists through and depends on membership dues,
donations, and the hard work of individuals such as ourselves. Our
code of conduct is Be excellent to each other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
== Proposals ==
* Check the page at [[Proposals/Open]].
== Discussion Items ==
If an item of discussion drags on too long, further discussion may
be postponed until after the meeting ends.
During discussion, it is not necessary to write down exactly what
each person says. Record the topics of discussion, and any items
of consensus or controversy here. Detailed descriptions of the
conversation should go on the discuss page for this meeting.
= End of Meeting =
* Delete the Instructions section at the top of this page.
* Post the notes to the wiki
* Notify treasu...@synhak.org mailto:treasu...@synhak.org and
secret...@synhak.org mailto:secret...@synhak.org about new
members (unless they are present at the meeting)
* Discuss any items for which there was not enough time during the
meeting
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that the minutes are ready for distribution to de...@synhak.org
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-22
The link has been properly updated.
Here are the minutes:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
* '''Moderator:''' Becca
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Ed, Robert R's Grampa, Retired Study of Law.
* Jen, Stay at home mom
* Robert, likes to invent
* Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
* Mike, pressed the button
* STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
* Matt, updates software
* Matt, Deathray enthusiast
* Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from Clev Pub
Library
* Joe, retired mechanic
* Craig, flips cars
* G, restores bycicles, for kiks
* Andy, computer tomography machines
* Chris, untapps
* Will, gots a new phone
* Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service, with MAtt,
G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
== Announcements ==
* Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
* Informal announcement Akron Mini Maker Faire October 18th 11-4pm
Akron Bublic Library, main branch
* NAMES Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes working mini
trains, in Michigan
* Shop Safety tomorrow 8pm
** Closed toed shoes
** Long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
** long pants
** stick with cottons
* Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
== Membership ==
* Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't skype into
a meeting, or join via proxy
** G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a non-tuesday enabled
person?
** Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
** Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting to
address a new member app.
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
none reported
== Proposals ==
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
open: proposals -see proposal page https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
* Hacker Grants
** Becca- would like to see a proposal that focusses on the greatest
good with the grant money, instead of whittling down until we come up
with a great idea that we don't have money for any more.
** Matt, Mozilla is broke from funding women programmers
** Robert's Gpaw- that's the Govt's governance that put a hole in the
bottom of that boat.
** Steve-before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what
we want to do with this, before we start spending it.
* Andy, machine shop walls, still getting quotes for materials, Carter
Lumber was not so helpful as of yet
** wants to make a trip to Restore for steel firedoors
** Chris, do we have a plan of where doors/walls, windows, -will there
be pet doors?
** Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
* Roberts Key proposal:
** will not be here without an adult
** where to keep key so it's not lost? maybe get a key lanyard and hang
it up where other keys are kept at home.
** Robert's key proposal-approved! money accepted by Chris/champion
== Discussion Items ==
* Jen -freespace for finding doors?
* mailing address for Synhak:
nowikiSynHak
12 East Exchange St
2nd Floor
Akron, OH 44308/nowiki
On 4/23/2014 9:44 AM, Chris Egeland wrote:
They were accidentally posted to Meetings/Template instead of the
correct page. I'm fixing the formatting then posting them on the
correct page. Give it about 10-20 minutes.
Chris
On 4/23/2014 8:51 AM, a l wrote:
Where are the minutes?
-Andrew L
On Apr 23, 2014 8:34 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org
mailto:ph...@synhak.org wrote:
ã?ã,ã?«ã?¡ã?¯, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-22 and that the
minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-22. I've also included
them in this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-22
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-29
|previous=Meetings/2014-4-15
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how
meetings future perform, please make any modifications to
[[Meetings/Template]]. If you would like to propose something at
the meeting, send it to propos...@synhak.org
mailto:propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there
are new people present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the
appropriate time.
* Tell
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-22
Regarding the hacker grants proposal, I have a question for Steve. Steve
said, before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what we
want to do with this, before we start spending it.
Isn't that what we're doing with the proposed expenditure on funding
mini-hacker grants? By discussing spending money on hacker grants, we are
in fact discussing how we're going to spend money. What sort of discussion
were you looking to have on this?
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote:
The link has been properly updated.
Here are the minutes:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
* '''Moderator:''' Becca
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Ed, Robert R's Grampa, Retired Study of Law.
* Jen, Stay at home mom
* Robert, likes to invent
* Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
* Mike, pressed the button
* STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
* Matt, updates software
* Matt, Deathray enthusiast
* Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from Clev Pub
Library
* Joe, retired mechanic
* Craig, flips cars
* G, restores bycicles, for kiks
* Andy, computer tomography machines
* Chris, untapps
* Will, gots a new phone
* Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service, with MAtt,
G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
== Announcements ==
* Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
* Informal announcement Akron Mini Maker Faire October 18th 11-4pm Akron
Bublic Library, main branch
* NAMES Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes working mini
trains, in Michigan
* Shop Safety tomorrow 8pm
** Closed toed shoes
** Long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
** long pants
** stick with cottons
* Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
== Membership ==
* Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't skype into a
meeting, or join via proxy
** G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a non-tuesday enabled
person?
** Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
** Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting to address
a new member app.
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
none reported
== Proposals ==
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
open: proposals -see proposal page https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
* Hacker Grants
** Becca- would like to see a proposal that focusses on the greatest good
with the grant money, instead of whittling down until we come up with a
great idea that we don't have money for any more.
** Matt, Mozilla is broke from funding women programmers
** Robert's Gpaw- that's the Govt's governance that put a hole in the
bottom of that boat.
** Steve-before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what we
want to do with this, before we start spending it.
* Andy, machine shop walls, still getting quotes for materials, Carter
Lumber was not so helpful as of yet
** wants to make a trip to Restore for steel firedoors
** Chris, do we have a plan of where doors/walls, windows, -will there be
pet doors?
** Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
* Roberts Key proposal:
** will not be here without an adult
** where to keep key so it's not lost? maybe get a key lanyard and hang
it up where other keys are kept at home.
** Robert's key proposal-approved! money accepted by Chris/champion
== Discussion Items ==
* Jen -freespace for finding doors?
* mailing address for Synhak:
nowikiSynHak
12 East Exchange St
2nd Floor
Akron, OH 44308/nowiki
On 4/23/2014 9:44 AM, Chris Egeland wrote:
They were accidentally posted to Meetings/Template instead of the correct
page. I'm fixing the formatting then posting them on the correct page.
Give it about 10-20 minutes.
Chris
On 4/23/2014 8:51 AM, a l wrote:
Where are the minutes?
-Andrew L
On Apr 23, 2014 8:34 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
ã“ã‚“ã«ã¡ã¯, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-22 and that the minutes
are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-22. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-22
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-29
|previous=Meetings/2014-4-15
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If
you would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-22
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
It is unclear if this was consented and if so what the wording of the
proposal is/was. Could someone who remembers the conversation update the
minutes?
Regarding Hacker grants: Since Torrie proposed this and will not be at
meetings in the near future could someone who understands her vision please
answer a few questions I have? The following is the current wording:
*I'm proposing that we allocate $5400 of our recent $15k knight foundation
grant to, each month, give $150 to a hacker with great ideas who applies
for it *
* $5,400 is a lot of money to ear mark for one project with uncertain
terms. It is in fact 3 years worth(at the proposed 150/mo) of hacker grants
as well as over 1/3 of our total grant monies. Could we lower this dollar
amount? perhaps to $1,800 offering 1 years worth of mini-grants instead. We
can always revisit the idea after one year.
* What exactly is the application process and constitutes 'great ideas'. If
two people apply in the same month how do we decide between them? Two in
the same hour? If only one person applies does that guarantee them the
money? What's the application deadline?
* Do we hand people a check for $150 or refund reciepts?
* It sounds like this is open to the public, how do we best promote this?
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding the hacker grants proposal, I have a question for Steve. Steve
said, before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what we
want to do with this, before we start spending it.
Isn't that what we're doing with the proposed expenditure on funding
mini-hacker grants? By discussing spending money on hacker grants, we are
in fact discussing how we're going to spend money. What sort of discussion
were you looking to have on this?
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote:
The link has been properly updated.
Here are the minutes:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
* '''Moderator:''' Becca
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Ed, Robert R's Grampa, Retired Study of Law.
* Jen, Stay at home mom
* Robert, likes to invent
* Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
* Mike, pressed the button
* STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
* Matt, updates software
* Matt, Deathray enthusiast
* Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from Clev Pub
Library
* Joe, retired mechanic
* Craig, flips cars
* G, restores bycicles, for kiks
* Andy, computer tomography machines
* Chris, untapps
* Will, gots a new phone
* Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service, with MAtt,
G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
== Announcements ==
* Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
* Informal announcement Akron Mini Maker Faire October 18th 11-4pm
Akron Bublic Library, main branch
* NAMES Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes working mini
trains, in Michigan
* Shop Safety tomorrow 8pm
** Closed toed shoes
** Long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
** long pants
** stick with cottons
* Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
== Membership ==
* Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't skype into
a meeting, or join via proxy
** G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a non-tuesday enabled
person?
** Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
** Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting to address
a new member app.
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
none reported
== Proposals ==
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
open: proposals -see proposal page https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
* Hacker Grants
** Becca- would like to see a proposal that focusses on the greatest good
with the grant money, instead of whittling down until we come up with a
great idea that we don't have money for any more.
** Matt, Mozilla is broke from funding women programmers
** Robert's Gpaw- that's the Govt's governance that put a hole in the
bottom of that boat.
** Steve-before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what
we want to do with this, before we start spending it.
* Andy, machine shop walls, still getting quotes for materials, Carter
Lumber was not so helpful as of yet
** wants to make a trip to Restore for steel firedoors
** Chris, do we have a plan of where doors/walls, windows, -will there
be pet doors?
** Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
* Roberts Key proposal:
** will not be here without an adult
** where to keep key so it's not lost? maybe get a key lanyard and
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-22
On 4/23/2014 2:43 PM, a l wrote:
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
It is unclear if this was consented and if so what the wording of the
proposal is/was. Could someone who remembers the conversation update
the minutes?
At last night's meeting, this was discussed, not consented to. At last
week's meeting (04-15-2014), this was brought up as a discussion item,
not a proposal. As such, last night's discussion (04-22-2014) was,
technically speaking, the first meeting it was discussed as a proposal.
The proposal in question is available to view here:
https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-April/008175.html
No changes to the wording of this proposal was discussed or agreed to
last night. As such, this proposal will undergo the consensus process
at next week's meeting.
Regarding Hacker grants: Since Torrie proposed this and will not be at
meetings in the near future could someone who understands her vision
please answer a few questions I have? The following is the current
wording:
/I'm proposing that we allocate $5400 of our recent $15k knight
foundation grant to, each month, give $150 to a hacker with great
ideas who applies for it /
* $5,400 is a lot of money to ear mark for one project with uncertain
terms. It is in fact 3 years worth(at the proposed 150/mo) of hacker
grants as well as over 1/3 of our total grant monies. Could we lower
this dollar amount? perhaps to $1,800 offering 1 years worth of
mini-grants instead. We can always revisit the idea after one year.
* What exactly is the application process and constitutes 'great
ideas'. If two people apply in the same month how do we decide between
them? Two in the same hour? If only one person applies does that
guarantee them the money? What's the application deadline?
* Do we hand people a check for $150 or refund reciepts?
* It sounds like this is open to the public, how do we best promote this?
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com
mailto:omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding the hacker grants proposal, I have a question for Steve.
Steve said, before we spend any money, we should have a
discussion of what we want to do with this, before we start
spending it.
Isn't that what we're doing with the proposed expenditure on
funding mini-hacker grants? By discussing spending money on hacker
grants, we are in fact discussing how we're going to spend money.
What sort of discussion were you looking to have on this?
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Chris Egeland
ch...@chrisegeland.com mailto:ch...@chrisegeland.com wrote:
The link has been properly updated.
Here are the minutes:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
* '''Moderator:''' Becca
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Ed, Robert R's Grampa, Retired Study of Law.
* Jen, Stay at home mom
* Robert, likes to invent
* Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
* Mike, pressed the button
* STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
* Matt, updates software
* Matt, Deathray enthusiast
* Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from
Clev Pub Library
* Joe, retired mechanic
* Craig, flips cars
* G, restores bycicles, for kiks
* Andy, computer tomography machines
* Chris, untapps
* Will, gots a new phone
* Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service,
with MAtt, G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
== Announcements ==
* Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
* Informal announcement Akron Mini Maker Faire October 18th
11-4pm Akron Bublic Library, main branch
* NAMES Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes
working mini trains, in Michigan
* Shop Safety tomorrow 8pm
** Closed toed shoes
** Long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
** long pants
** stick with cottons
* Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
== Membership ==
* Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't
skype into a meeting, or join via proxy
** G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a
non-tuesday enabled person?
** Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
** Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting
to address a new member app.
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
none
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-15
Bonjour, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-15 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-15. I've also included them in this
mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-15
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-22
|previous=Meetings/2014-4-8
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Andrew L and Torrie Fischer
* '''Moderator:''' Alex and Becca
== Introduction and Names ==
* Robert - invents, fried something before the meeting
* Jason - graphic designer at a Toy company
** Met G at Tech pint
* Laurie - works with lawyers
* Jen - Stay-at-home-Mom
* Craig - auto-mechanic
* Devin - purchases far more tools
* Joe - retired machine repairman
** Heard about us at ALUG
* Steve - does what he wants
* Becca - creeped out. Converts yarn to t-shirts
* Torrie - brings raspberry pi(e)s
* Chris - Goes through a lot of email
* Andrew L- I don't like being cold
* Omar - ADD is in full swing
* Mike - Looks for a squirrel cage
* Andy - Ninja
* Andrew - chemical engineer
** Referred by Ken burns
* Paul - enjoys unemployment
* Angelo - Akron's foremost cyclepath. Runs a non-profit for repairing
bicycles. In the process of merging locations.
** Heard about us from G
== Announcements ==
* Chris - Champions will no longer preform conflict resolution
** CWG needs to be a priority
* Robert brought everyone pizza!
** payed with his own money
*** Everyone appreciates it
* Torrie - LAN party was last Saturday.
** Noisebridge wants to lose to SynHak in LAN games next month
* Weds April 23
** Shop safety class
* We have a pipe bender now, bender of steels
** 1 1/4 max
** NO SOLID ROUNDS, it will break
*** Stock benders are the proper tool for that
== Membership ==
* None
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank: 19,071.62
** Liabilities 1,783.54
* Expenses account
** Another checking account has been set up for champions to use
*** Maintanence
*** Emergency expenditure
*** If the space needs things, pester the Champions and Treasurer
** Concerns brought up about spending $ on things people don't agree on
*** Torrie: there's a limited amount we can 'afford to lose' and if champions
spend irresponsibly it will be dealt with
*** Omar: what sort of purchases are approved?
Consumables(wood
Don't pay bills unless it's the 3rd notice
*** alex: There should be a threshold
*** Becca: This is group money. If I find a piece of equipment that costs the
balance of the acocunt I can get a champion to buy it?
Torrie: Large purchases should go through the membership. This is intended
to be for maintanence or mid-project purchases
*** Mike: I assume bigger future projects would be approved? A working budget
seems more fiscally responsible.
Torrie: this bleeds into discussions
Devin and Alex agree
Torrie: If champions aren't being responsible I can cancel the champions
cards
*** Alex: If they spend it , it's gone
*** Steve: Should our grant money be spent like that at all? Is it fitting out
mission and 501(c)(3) guidelines?
*** Craig - I don't think the champions are going to be irresponsible
*** Omar: Part of what I wanted clarified was what purchase requests were. Like
spending grant money. If all the wood screws are gone, replacing them for
community use seems within our mission. Emailing Champions@ seems like a
reasonable solution?
*** Torrie: The cards have not been issued. The champions don't have acces
-yet-. Paper work will take time
*** Alex: can I put through a proposal about this?
*** Steve: I know getting supplies is part of the purchases but we should spend
the grant money in a way that makes a big impact
Torrie: Building out the hackerspace to improve the space and make it more
useable should be a goal.
*** Andy: Walls were going to be a proposal with a BoM it shouldn't need a
whole checking account.
*** Andrew L: How do -big- companies do it?
Chris: BFG doesn't do that, and we're not big enough.
Torrie: Yeah, UA and other big corps. have more options due to scale.
There are a few private companies that manage an expenditure service but it
seemed sketchy.
Becca: Visa gift cards
* Torrie: it is an option but not very convenient.
Andy: some companies put limits on spending
* Torrie: we have that but it can be raised
Omar: some companies to approval via internal memo
** there is no Overdraft on this card
== Proposals ==
* Steve has a pdf on Discuss@ about consensus vs voting and historical
operation of SynHak
** Concern with blocking
** the proposal is read out by Steve
** Steve - There was a concern that a minority of people would feel steamrolled
if something got passed through a majority vote
*** If you can convince 25% or more, the proposal wouldn't go through, but
wouldn't get such a small minority that the majority feels stuck with a block
** Chris - I don't think it is too farfetched of a statement to say that
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-08
* G: Canton Mini Maker Faire April 24 Noon to 4PM KSU Main Library
Correction: The Mini Maker Faire is in Kent, not Canton. Main library's
address: 1125 Risman Drive, Kent, OH 44242
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
Hey, all.
Minutes are now up. Here's a copy:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-08
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-15
|previous=Meetings/2014-4-1
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if anyone
new
is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to
make
things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help others
learn
new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and depends on
membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals such as
ourselves. Our code of conduct is Be excellent to each
other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Jon - Returns
* James - Just here to hopefully engage in a conversation, professional ISP
and lots of hobbies and interests that are tech related
* Will - UA EE Student, in the Navy
** Found the website, and that guy (points at Chris E)
* Matt - Builds software
* Craig - Spills stuff on laptops
* Steve - Doesn't spill stuff on laptops
* Becca - Transposes frost from bread to cakes. Is a wizard
* Mike - Respects mushroom haters
* Monique - Doesn't have anything clever to say today
* Torrie - Builds prototyping labs
* Chris - Takes notes
* G - Makes 100 children happy at Cleveland Mini Maker Faire
* Devin - Purchases Subarus
* Andrew - Has to leave early again
* Omar - Loves his job
* Laurie - Anything her law office of an employer pays her to do
** Heard about us through Robert
* Robert - Likes inventing, makes inventions
** His dad brought him here
* Jen - Does everything as a stay-at-home mom
** Heard about SYN/HAK through her husband and son.
* Mike - Accountant
** Heard about us through Scott
* Scott - Works for Akron U in the IT/Parking department
** Article in the paper
* Paul - Working hard at staying unemployed
* Andy - Eating spaghetti
* Adam - Computer science major at UA.
** Heard about us from a poster at a bulletin board on UA Campus
* Nick - Fixes computers at UA
** Heard about us through Adam
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
* Windows XP is dead
* Becca is taking a collection of old t-shirts to be hacked and destroyed
into
something new
* Omar is making network cables as an impromptu class tonight
* Monique says the Akron Mini Maker Faire on October 18 for real.
** Omar says 3d printer is on wheels, let's bring it
** G says project space and activity space would be useful
* G: Canton Mini Maker Faire April 24 Noon to 4PM KSU Main Library
* Alex is giving his talk on Wireless Mesh Protocols tomorrow at SYN/HAK,
then
the next day at Notacon.
* Chris: Heartbleed SSL vulnerability, keep an eye out for suspicious
emails.
* Omar: Anything that you thought was secure, probably not secure.
* G: April 11-13, Cleveland Startup Weekend,
http://cleveland.startupweekend.org
*
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
* Robert Rybicki - Because I like to take stuff apart and rebuild them
differently. Sponsors are Becca and Torrie.
** I'm Robert and I invent a lot. Most of the time my inventions don't
work.
*** Welcome to the club.
** Becca: What makes you happy? Inventions
** Becca: What grade are you in? First
** Becca: What is your favorite thing about cub scouts? They build stuff
like
roads.
** Andrew: Do you like inventing with computers or mechanical things?
Computers.
** Omar: What's your favorite kind of invention? I like to take computers
apart and make inventions out of them.
** Craig: Dog or cat person? The same.
** Mike: Would you rather make something from scratch or repurpose
something
to make it do what you want? That's a hard question to answer. Yes.
** G: Do you like a boat or an airplane? Airplane.
** Chris: How does it make you feel to be the youngest applicant to
SYN/HAK?
Good
** Becca: XBox One or PS4? Neither, no videogames.
* Discussion with mom about excellence.
* Consensed.
* Matt Wenger
* Matt Stevic
** Neither are reachable, if you're reading this, please contact
secret...@synhak.org
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
** Assets: $18,729.62
** AR: $2550.20
** Liabilities: $2866.26
== Proposals ==
* Walls
** Andy: Stopped at Habitat
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-08
Hey, all.
Minutes are now up. Here's a copy:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-08
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-15
|previous=Meetings/2014-4-1
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if anyone new
is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to make
things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help others learn
new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and depends on
membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals such as
ourselves. Our code of conduct is Be excellent to each other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Jon - Returns
* James - Just here to hopefully engage in a conversation, professional ISP
and lots of hobbies and interests that are tech related
* Will - UA EE Student, in the Navy
** Found the website, and that guy (points at Chris E)
* Matt - Builds software
* Craig - Spills stuff on laptops
* Steve - Doesn't spill stuff on laptops
* Becca - Transposes frost from bread to cakes. Is a wizard
* Mike - Respects mushroom haters
* Monique - Doesn't have anything clever to say today
* Torrie - Builds prototyping labs
* Chris - Takes notes
* G - Makes 100 children happy at Cleveland Mini Maker Faire
* Devin - Purchases Subarus
* Andrew - Has to leave early again
* Omar - Loves his job
* Laurie - Anything her law office of an employer pays her to do
** Heard about us through Robert
* Robert - Likes inventing, makes inventions
** His dad brought him here
* Jen - Does everything as a stay-at-home mom
** Heard about SYN/HAK through her husband and son.
* Mike - Accountant
** Heard about us through Scott
* Scott - Works for Akron U in the IT/Parking department
** Article in the paper
* Paul - Working hard at staying unemployed
* Andy - Eating spaghetti
* Adam - Computer science major at UA.
** Heard about us from a poster at a bulletin board on UA Campus
* Nick - Fixes computers at UA
** Heard about us through Adam
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
* Windows XP is dead
* Becca is taking a collection of old t-shirts to be hacked and destroyed into
something new
* Omar is making network cables as an impromptu class tonight
* Monique says the Akron Mini Maker Faire on October 18 for real.
** Omar says 3d printer is on wheels, let's bring it
** G says project space and activity space would be useful
* G: Canton Mini Maker Faire April 24 Noon to 4PM KSU Main Library
* Alex is giving his talk on Wireless Mesh Protocols tomorrow at SYN/HAK, then
the next day at Notacon.
* Chris: Heartbleed SSL vulnerability, keep an eye out for suspicious emails.
* Omar: Anything that you thought was secure, probably not secure.
* G: April 11-13, Cleveland Startup Weekend,
http://cleveland.startupweekend.org
*
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
* Robert Rybicki - Because I like to take stuff apart and rebuild them
differently. Sponsors are Becca and Torrie.
** I'm Robert and I invent a lot. Most of the time my inventions don't work.
*** Welcome to the club.
** Becca: What makes you happy? Inventions
** Becca: What grade are you in? First
** Becca: What is your favorite thing about cub scouts? They build stuff like
roads.
** Andrew: Do you like inventing with computers or mechanical things?
Computers.
** Omar: What's your favorite kind of invention? I like to take computers
apart and make inventions out of them.
** Craig: Dog or cat person? The same.
** Mike: Would you rather make something from scratch or repurpose something
to make it do what you want? That's a hard question to answer. Yes.
** G: Do you like a boat or an airplane? Airplane.
** Chris: How does it make you feel to be the youngest applicant to SYN/HAK?
Good
** Becca: XBox One or PS4? Neither, no videogames.
* Discussion with mom about excellence.
* Consensed.
* Matt Wenger
* Matt Stevic
** Neither are reachable, if you're reading this, please contact
secret...@synhak.org
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
** Assets: $18,729.62
** AR: $2550.20
** Liabilities: $2866.26
== Proposals ==
* Walls
** Andy: Stopped at Habitat for Humanity, limited supply, it's get what you
can get. Wants to check pricing at Carter Lumber.
** Paul: West Hill Hardware, lots of architectural salvage. Doors aren't fire
rated, but $20-25 for solid doors.
** Omar: Carpentry/masonry school has built rooms out of caging.
*** Becca: No dust containment
** Mike: Soundproof? Omar: No.
** Andy: Price? Omar: No
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-08
Namaste, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-08 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-8. I've also included them in this mail
for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-08
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-15
|previous=Meetings/2014-4-1
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If you
would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new people
present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new members.
If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email them.
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* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as the
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== Participants ==
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* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' FIXME
* '''Moderator:''' FIXME
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if anyone new
is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to make
things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help others learn
new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and depends on
membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals such as ourselves.
Our code of conduct is Be excellent to each other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
== Proposals ==
* Check the page at [[Proposals/Open]].
== Discussion Items ==
If an item of discussion drags on too long, further discussion may be postponed
until after the meeting ends.
During discussion, it is not necessary to write down exactly what each person
says. Record the topics of discussion, and any items of consensus or
controversy here. Detailed descriptions of the conversation should go on the
discuss page for this meeting.
= End of Meeting =
* Delete the Instructions section at the top of this page.
* Post the notes to the wiki
* Notify treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org about new members
(unless they are present at the meeting)
* Discuss any items for which there was not enough time during the meeting
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-08
Rob,
Due to the OpenSSL Heartbleed bug that we were vulnerable to, the wiki
was down on Tuesday, and as such, the meeting minutes were not posted to
the wiki in time for the scheduled job that automatically posts the
meeting minutes.
The meeting minutes were safely saved onto the desktop of the Lenovo
ThinkPad in the back half of the space on the desk by the projector
screen in a .txt file named something along the lines of
minutes04-08-2014.txt. If I make it to the space within a day or two,
I'll try to get them posted.
Thanks for the heads up.
Chris
On 4/10/2014 3:04 PM, Robert Rybicki wrote:
The meeting minutes did not go through correctly. I thought I remember this
happening before and someone mentioned something needed to be fixed. I am just
bringing it up if that is the case here. If that is not the case here then I am
sorry for the bandwidth and everyone's time that I wasted pointing out nothing.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 10, 2014, at 7:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Namaste, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-08 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-8. I've also included them in this mail
for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-08
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-15
|previous=Meetings/2014-4-1
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If you
would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new people
present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new members.
If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as the
template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' FIXME
* '''Moderator:''' FIXME
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if anyone new
is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to make things. SYNHAK
provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help others learn new skills and create cool things.
SYNHAK exists through and depends on membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals
such as ourselves. Our code of conduct is Be excellent to each other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
== Proposals ==
* Check the page at [[Proposals/Open]].
== Discussion Items ==
If an item of discussion drags on too long, further discussion may be postponed
until after the meeting ends.
During discussion, it is not necessary to write down exactly what each person
says. Record the topics of discussion, and any items of consensus or
controversy here. Detailed descriptions of the conversation should go on the
discuss page for this meeting.
= End of Meeting =
* Delete the Instructions section at the top of this page.
* Post the notes to the wiki
* Notify treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org about new members
(unless they are present at the meeting)
* Discuss any items for which there was not enough time during the meeting
* Delete this bit of magical text, which lets [[User:Phong]] know that the minutes
are ready for distribution to de...@synhak.org: phongMinutesNotReady/
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[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-01
Howdy, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-01 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-1. I've also included them in this mail
for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-04-01
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-8
|previous=Meetings/2014-3-25
}}
* '''Note Taker:''' Craig
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie
== Introduction and Names ==
*Chris – Swipe swipieees
*Andrew – Send emails to people who want to be members
*Phillip – Just came for the root beer
*Chris – acquired a new battery pack
*Martha – wants a workbench
*Alex – Found out getting a new mattress is completely overrated
*Matt – Fix legacy code
*Dave – videographer
*Craig –Takes pills to promote note-taking
*Torrie – Prototype circuits
*Devin – is NOT a beer fairy
*Mike – Fixes cielings
== Announcements ==
*Phillip – another makerfaire in Kent on the 24th (Thursday 12-4) at the KSU
Library, Is looking for support
*Alex –
**Notacon happening in two weeks,
**April 9th at 8pm is the mesh networking talk here at SynHak
**April 23rd – Shop safety with Devin
*Mike - No longer gaping hole in the ceiling of the craft room
*Torrie – Cleveland minimakerfaire was last weekend, learned we need better
planning,
*Also that weekend, space cleanup, documented on te build list
*Chris – Champions now have official mailing list, for anyone to sent items to:
champi...@synhak.org
*Chris – Electric moped!, still need spokes
== Membership ==
*Robert Rybicki
*Matt Winger
*Matthew Stevic
None are present tonight, They will be contacted
== Financial Report ==
Dues are Due, only 4 or 5 have paid for April
*Assets: 18729.62
*Liabilities: 2866.26
*Rent is paid for the month
*Devin – automated billing emails?
*Torrie - There on the way, but currently down
== Proposals ==
*Phillip wants a key:
**Why? To open the building and monitor Friday nights/ never stand out in the
cold again / Access to a bathroom in Akron
***Alex – Give him a key
***Mike – Are you going to rob us?
No I will not take the furnace
***Alex – you want Friday’s as open hours?
6pm to 10pm Phillip will be here to open the space Fridays from now on (for the
foreseeable future)
'''Consensed'''
*Devin – about requiring a 2nd/2nd for proposals
attatch copy of formal wording
'''Consensed'''
*You now require two members in good standing to 2nd your proposal before
bringing to the floor.
*Dave – Can we make this start today?
**It is effective immediately, and not retroactive.
*Mike - How do we address a proposal on the floor that may not have enough
support?
'''De-consensed'''
*Andrew – Dangerous to start retroactively changing things
*Mike – If we put that barrier back to make things more reasonable, or a
proposal to be able to cancel proposals
*Devin – agrees with 2nd, proposal to redact, until then we can always just
block it
*Alex – agrees, no retroactivity, If we want to add on to this in the future we
can bring up a new proposal.
*Devin – Likes it as is, doesn't want to drag this on another week.
*Mike – Should we make another proposal for next week to add to an additive
proposal making things retroactive
*Mike – agrees to step aside and come back to it in another meeting
'''re-consensed'''
*Alex – Are the proposals from last week still valid/open?
**Yes
*Chris – Associate membership? Can this be removed from the proposals page?
**Torrie – I will do
'''Funding Building walls:'''
Needs consensed floor plan a BOM
*Andy – The $3k to make the walls proposal, where did those numbers come from?
*Torrie – home depots website and estimating
*Andy – My estimate is around $4,600
*Andrew – What’s relevant fire code?
*Dave - The Ohio building code states fire suppression drywall is needed.
**citation requested
*Becca – even if not required don’t we want it anyway?
*Andy – The person at home depot suggested these (fireproof doors), and there
is possibility of getting parts cheaper via contractors. *Habitat for Humanity
is another possibility
*Andrew – Worried about when the insurance inspector come by / can we make our
own door to save cost?
*Mike – Used doors would considerably reduce that cost
*Andy – These are 20-min fire resistant doors specifically certified for this,
we would have to look up about other materials involved.
*Andy – we need more prices and options to get a plan
*Andrew – if we want strips instead of outlets?
*Devin dislikes, from a build quality and safety standpoint
*Andy – electrical to code, can always plug a strip in if you dare
*Extending the machine shop space
**Devin – Not being able to work with a 4x8 sheet in that room sucks, can we
move the furnace to the machine shop to solve both issues?
**Andy – we could put a closet around the furnace
*Needs consensed floor plan/BOM
**Devin – It would give us the room needed for 4x8 sheets, safely, quickly, and
alone.
**Andrew – can we solve this by re-arranging?
**Phillip –Vertical
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-03-25
Minutes are up again as of last night. Here's a copy:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-03-25
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-1
|previous=Meetings/2014-3-18
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chrystin
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if
anyone new is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to
make things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help
others learn new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and
depends on membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals
such as ourselves. Our code of conduct is Be excellent to each
other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Dave - amateur historian, videographer
Jimmy - UA student, CS major, making an MPD client for jukebox
Tim - design control systems for packaging machines
Mike - makes stew
Martha - walks and trains dogs
Becca - makes bread
Steve - likes Mike's stew, plays old school video games
Philip - old, lots of time, tinkerer
Frank - retired from polymer industry
G - software engineer
Chris - making the other half of a bicycle tag-along/tow behind
Rich - electronics, computers
Chris - asst admin/IT guy
Devon - machinist, makes swords
Don - writer, learned about Synhak from ABJ
Andy - builds pinball machines
Jeff- healthcare, technology, computers
Alex - IT specialist
Andrew - sponsors Jimmy
Robert - first timer, works at Akron water supply, biology,
programming/electronics
Chrystin - ESL teacher, invited by Andy
Torrie - facilitates
Paul - recently not attending
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
Maker faire, Saturday, 10-5, Cleveland, 100 exhibitors, make and take
activities, lots of kids, carpool?
Notacon, April 10-13, starts on a Thursday (=free day), main talks start
on Friday, Friday and Saturday are presentation days
April 19th, Greater Akron Robotics Club, next mtg - a good time!
Cool retro air gauge will be changed into a pneumatic speedometer
Speaker's Bureau here tomorrow, Amazon web services/synhak.org, see how
to build it and all the things that run on the servers - 8pm
April 9, Alex's pre-pre-talk, wireless networks
Startup dinner, starts at 6
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
Jimmy - to develop software at Synhak and to be able to use the network
for testing. Improve Synhak website.
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
What makes you happy? Socializing, working on things
How can you benefit Synhak? Make a client for the Jukebox/touchscreen
interface
How can Synhak benefit you (in Soviet Russia...lol)? Allows me to test
things that I can't do otherwise; learned about welding from the class
the other day
What year are you in school? sophomore
Favorite class? CS
Unusual talents outside of computers? No, not exactly. More jack than a
master.
Favorite part of Synhak? The class that was done before, things like that
Favorite language? The one with all the clicking
How do you get a key? Go on the wiki, learn how to do it, and follow the
instructions
Nintendo or Sega? Nintendo
What kind of car do you drive? Toyota Camry, 1996
Preferred OS? Linux
In the short-term, what project do you wish to complete here? The touch
interface for the jukebox
Cookies or cupcakes? Cookies
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank: $18,936.27
Accts receivable: $2,515.20
Liabilities: $2,866.26
Total Liabilities and Equity: $15,610.27
Budget, about $30 left in general operating budget for the month
== Proposals ==
* Check the page at [[Proposals/Open]].
Andy - wood to finish shelves in basement, release funds for this
comments: donate tarps for temporary walls on both ends?
solution for walls? do measurements to determine how much material is
actually needed, probably get it delivered here b/c it will be large qty
needed
fire-proof drywall behind welding area?
roll around tarps to square off welding areas?
fire-resistant drywall to meet code
will walls be built all the way to the ceiling?
steel studs
definition of a wall? wall vs dividers, w/purpose of enclosing dust, etc.
does it make sense to have it closed off? yes, electronics and dust don't
mix, concern about breathing, hearing, etc.
Andy should come up with a quick price list and bring it up to membership
Build a room w/2 doors, enclosed room for the shop, consider building a
10 foot room, use loft area as storage
concern about loft storage: this significantly increases the cost and
work, must do load analysis, figure out how many lbs/sq ft you want to
have, very expensive
how fast would walls get put up? 2
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-03-25
Namaste, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-03-25 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-3-25. I've also included them in this
mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-03-25
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-4-1
|previous=Meetings/2014-3-18
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If you
would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new people
present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new members.
If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as the
template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' FIXME
* '''Moderator:''' FIXME
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if anyone new
is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to make
things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help others learn
new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and depends on
membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals such as ourselves.
Our code of conduct is Be excellent to each other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
== Proposals ==
* Check the page at [[Proposals/Open]].
== Discussion Items ==
If an item of discussion drags on too long, further discussion may be postponed
until after the meeting ends.
During discussion, it is not necessary to write down exactly what each person
says. Record the topics of discussion, and any items of consensus or
controversy here. Detailed descriptions of the conversation should go on the
discuss page for this meeting.
= End of Meeting =
* Delete the Instructions section at the top of this page.
* Post the notes to the wiki
* Notify treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org about new members
(unless they are present at the meeting)
* Discuss any items for which there was not enough time during the meeting
* Delete this bit of magical text, which lets [[User:Phong]] know that the
minutes are ready for distribution to de...@synhak.org: phongMinutesNotReady/
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-03-18
Andrew,
As long as you are on a roll, please clarify the following for me =
jeb sheets - laundry for Jeb?
Kobol - variation of Cobol?
wild rover - a computer game?
Did I miss out on some free burritos or did Torrie just allude to their
existence in a faraway kitchen?
Thanks!
Philip
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:33 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all,
It's been brought to my attention that what was intended as a lighthearted
expression of jealousy for a cool toy didn't get recorded that way in the
minutes.
* Alex - It's, he does it
* Jeff - does 2 meetings in a row
* Andy - builds pinball machines
* Justin - Brings cookies
* Omar - writes how-to guides for the lowest common denomenator
* Mike - Has a laser keyboard, sucks
* Philip - heard about cookies
* Tim - Enjoys robotics
* Becca - writes jeb sheets
* Dave - Helps to repair the canal
* Steve - Shows up late, but on time
* Matt - Avoids Kobol, so say we all
* Mila - Also a second meeting attender
* Craig - is fine
* Torrie - makes burritos
* Andrew - attends entire meetings today
* Devin - moderates today
* Anthony - Developes software
* Jessie - Fiance to Anthony, comes for the amusement value
* Martin - still roving, plays the wild rover
* Victor - Attends KSU, works in the tech-center library
** Found out about us through our website
To clarify, neither Mike nor his laser keyboard suck. The comment has been
removed from the archived version of the minutes but without complicated
techromancy it is not possible to change the minutes as displayed in this
thread.
Apologies for the poor recording and confusion it caused.
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Bonjour, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-03-18 and that the minutes
are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-3-18. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-03-18
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-3-25
|previous=Meetings/2014-3-11
}}
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the
appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new
members. If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email
them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document,
as the template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Andrew L
* '''Moderator:''' Devin
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if
anyone new is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to
make things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help
others learn new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and
depends on membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals
such as ourselves. Our code of conduct is Be excellent to each
other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Alex - It's, he does it
* Jeff - does 2 meetings in a row
* Andy - builds pinball machines
* Justin - Brings cookies
* Omar - writes how-to guides for the lowest common denomenator
* Mike - Has a laser keyboard, sucks
* Philip - heard about cookies
* Tim - Enjoys robotics
* Becca - writes jeb sheets
* Dave - Helps to repair the canal
* Steve - Shows up late, but on time
* Matt - Avoids Kobol, so say we all
* Mila - Also a second meeting attender
* Craig - is fine
* Torrie - makes burritos
* Andrew - attends entire meetings today
* Devin - moderates today
* Anthony - Developes software
* Jessie - Fiance to Anthony, comes for the amusement value
* Martin - still roving, plays the wild rover
* Victor - Attends KSU, works in the tech-center library
** Found out about us through our website
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
* Computers have multiplied
** 4 laptops for use
*** There's one on the desk in the back labeled -Do Not Hack-
Don't hack it.
*** if you have OS preferences let omar know, or install yourself
Don't ruin the
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-03-18
A
OK, now I know.
Too bad about the burritos.
P
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:45 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll clarify what I can:
jeb sheets - laundry for Jeb?
I'm not sure. There was a brief side discussion and my understanding was
they are some sort of work related spreadsheet to help monitor project
progress
Kobol - variation of Cobol?
Yes Cobol the programming language, whereas Kobol is a mythical planet in
the rebooted Battlestar Galactica Universe.
wild rover - a computer game?
It's an irish folk song.
Did I miss out on some Free Burritos
I think Torrie was just discussing her dinner. Not released for public
consumption.
regards,
Andrew L
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote:
Andrew,
As long as you are on a roll, please clarify the following for me =
jeb sheets - laundry for Jeb?
Kobol - variation of Cobol?
wild rover - a computer game?
Did I miss out on some free burritos or did Torrie just allude to their
existence in a faraway kitchen?
Thanks!
Philip
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:33 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all,
It's been brought to my attention that what was intended as a
lighthearted expression of jealousy for a cool toy didn't get recorded
that way in the minutes.
* Alex - It's, he does it
* Jeff - does 2 meetings in a row
* Andy - builds pinball machines
* Justin - Brings cookies
* Omar - writes how-to guides for the lowest common denomenator
* Mike - Has a laser keyboard, sucks
* Philip - heard about cookies
* Tim - Enjoys robotics
* Becca - writes jeb sheets
* Dave - Helps to repair the canal
* Steve - Shows up late, but on time
* Matt - Avoids Kobol, so say we all
* Mila - Also a second meeting attender
* Craig - is fine
* Torrie - makes burritos
* Andrew - attends entire meetings today
* Devin - moderates today
* Anthony - Developes software
* Jessie - Fiance to Anthony, comes for the amusement value
* Martin - still roving, plays the wild rover
* Victor - Attends KSU, works in the tech-center library
** Found out about us through our website
To clarify, neither Mike nor his laser keyboard suck. The comment has
been removed from the archived version of the minutes but without
complicated techromancy it is not possible to change the minutes as
displayed in this thread.
Apologies for the poor recording and confusion it caused.
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Bonjour, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-03-18 and that the
minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-3-18. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-03-18
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-3-25
|previous=Meetings/2014-3-11
}}
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the
appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new
members. If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email
them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document,
as the template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior
to proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Andrew L
* '''Moderator:''' Devin
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if
anyone new is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to
make things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help
others learn new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and
depends on membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals
such as ourselves. Our code of conduct is Be excellent to each
other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Alex - It's, he does it
* Jeff - does 2 meetings in a row
* Andy - builds pinball machines
* Justin - Brings cookies
* Omar - writes how-to guides for the lowest common denomenator
* Mike - Has a laser keyboard, sucks
* Philip - heard about cookies
* Tim - Enjoys robotics
* Becca - writes jeb sheets
* Dave - Helps to repair the canal
* Steve - Shows up late, but on time
* Matt - Avoids
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-03-18
Bonjour, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-03-18 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-3-18. I've also included them in this
mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-03-18
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-3-25
|previous=Meetings/2014-3-11
}}
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new members.
If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as the
template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Andrew L
* '''Moderator:''' Devin
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if anyone new
is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to make
things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help others learn
new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and depends on
membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals such as ourselves.
Our code of conduct is Be excellent to each other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Alex - It's, he does it
* Jeff - does 2 meetings in a row
* Andy - builds pinball machines
* Justin - Brings cookies
* Omar - writes how-to guides for the lowest common denomenator
* Mike - Has a laser keyboard, sucks
* Philip - heard about cookies
* Tim - Enjoys robotics
* Becca - writes jeb sheets
* Dave - Helps to repair the canal
* Steve - Shows up late, but on time
* Matt - Avoids Kobol, so say we all
* Mila - Also a second meeting attender
* Craig - is fine
* Torrie - makes burritos
* Andrew - attends entire meetings today
* Devin - moderates today
* Anthony - Developes software
* Jessie - Fiance to Anthony, comes for the amusement value
* Martin - still roving, plays the wild rover
* Victor - Attends KSU, works in the tech-center library
** Found out about us through our website
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
* Computers have multiplied
** 4 laptops for use
*** There's one on the desk in the back labeled -Do Not Hack-
Don't hack it.
*** if you have OS preferences let omar know, or install yourself
Don't ruin the windows partition
*** 3 in Palm room,
** Lenovo for all sorts of hacking, no holds barred
*** Located in the Palm room
** Keep an eye on Announce@ for laptop sales and pricing
* Martin brought his rover
** build in progress, working boom and camera platform
*** demo after meeting
* G brought in paint
** all manner of paint
** painting materials included
* Andy found the LCD for the jukebox
** Tom was doing things and stuff with it, detailed on NOC@
* Switches stopped switching on the network
** Craig to build things in the basement to keep things dry and safe
** If you know of a source of cheap(free?) pallets(12-15) so we can rig up a
raised floor
* All machines using SDRAM or older to be in the mainspace
** likely to be placed in the hack pile so they get used or otherwise disappear
** give them a purpose
* This Saturday at 12pm The Greater Akron Robotics Club(GARC) at SynHak
** First meeting :)
** Highschool and Junior high students
** Willing Chaperones and knowledgeable folk encouraged to attend
* Notacon 4/10-15/14
* Akron Mini-Makerfaire 10/18
** get ideas together
* Akron Public library wants help to get a learn-to-solder class up and running
** Learn basic electronics too
* Cleveland Makerfaire 3/29 12-6pm
** Cleveland public Library
* Bay area makerfaire 5/17-18
** Tiny circuits attending
* 3/26 Torrie talks about SynHak infrastructure
** 8pm
** AWS, Synhak.org
* 4/09 Alex talks about Mesh networking
* 4/23 Shop Safety
** another welding class being scheduled, time TBA
* Dave wants to do some local history
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Philip
** Been visiting us since the old space, sponsored by Devin, Justin
** Wants to join to: meet people, learn things, make things to sell on etsy,
fix things to sell on ebay
*** Lists a
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-03-11
Howdy, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-03-11 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-3-11. I've also included them in this
mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-03-11
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-3-18
|previous=Meetings/2014-3-4
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If you
would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new people
present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new members.
If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as the
template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Craig
* '''Moderator:''' Alex
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if anyone new
is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want to make
things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help others learn
new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and depends on
membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals such as ourselves.
Our code of conduct is Be excellent to each other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
*That Devin guy.
*Jeff: first meeting, came to open house, here to see what we're all about.
Fix-it guy (EE, cars, kids)
*Mike: Here because someone left the front door open
*Chris: Finds things
*Becca: Does not take notes
*Tim: Highschool robotics coach
*Andrew: Still has to leave early
*Matt:Makes software and breaks home
*Andy – Prints in 3rd dimension
*Steve – Finds great deals for computers on CL
*Dave – deconstructs things and cant get htem put back together
*Chris E – Chills
*Torrie – Underestimate the spicyness of jalepenions
*Craig – is typing, see monitor
*Alex - Moderate
–
*Tom: Computer engineer, likes to hack on robots and bikes/ebikes
== Announcements ==
Andrew: has frame for Philip's pictures, it's on the pinball machine
Torrie: Ingenuityfest is this September, call for makers, grants available
($500 to a few thousand). Injunitycleveland.com (#) I plans to do something
with a graffiti laser and possibly fire. G also a point of contact
Devin: Welding class tomorrow – free and open to the public 8pm. 22 signed up
already, wear cotton clothes/ jeans/ long sleeve shirts/closed shoes
Devin: There was a board meeting yesterday, minutes were sent to discuss
Alex: Notacon is still April 10th to 13th, I'll be giving a talk, a few members
will be there
Haha, the time machine works!!! Oh, wait theres a ripple...
== Membership ==
== Financial Report ==
* Assets: $20,646.34
** Current assets: $16482.63
** A/R: $2910.50
* Liabilities: $2361.26
** A/P: $1736.26
Budgets have unreliable totals at the moment, in the works, we have money,
please payyour dies, nobody has paid for March. Electric bill was paid today,
including $70 deposit. Total for last month ~$80, Gas was ~$80-100 last month
Devin: water bill is in the process of transferring to 12 w
Chris: We are behind on TWCBC, due to them not agreeing that we had a new
billing address. We are a few months behind. Called today to request an ebill
/ a new bill be sent to OSC
Torrie: ~$330 + $7 late fee that will be fought tomorrow
== Proposals ==
Becca wants a key. She is a board member and would like to participate in open
hours
Torrie has been updating the proposals page
Chris is proposing a bylaw amendment posted to the discuss list today “I am
hereby proposing the following amendment to the Bylaws:
Begin Bylaw Amendment
Amend Section 6.4.2 of the SYN/HAK Bylaws to read as follows:
The Board of Directors shall meet not less than once per year for the purposes
of organization,
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-03-04
Guten Tag, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-03-04 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-3-4. I've also included them in this mail
for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-03-04
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-3-11
|previous=Meetings/2014-2-25
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If you
would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new members.
If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as the
template may occasionally change without warning.
** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior to
proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
== Participants ==
* Say your name the first time you speak
* Remain on-topic
* Remain respectful of other participants
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' G
* '''Moderator:''' Devin
== Introduction and Names ==
* Justin - wears a hat
* Frank - Found synhak through paper article
* Andy - Still working a lot
* Martha - Taught computer maintenance for 2 years
* Alex - Wears pants finally
* Mike - Found space from friend in Minnesota makerspace
* Neela - Came for opening day and came back; Part timer at Don Drumms
* Craig - Smells
* Becca - Allergic reactions to Giant Eagle (asthma)
* G - Software Engineer, Board member
* Chris - Sysadmin, Champion
* Bob - here on opening day; renews civil engg license; found us from newspaper
article
* Torrie - Builds robots; treasurer
* John - Invited by G last week at SunDownRunDown - Buckminster Fuller advocate
(triangles); juggles with rubber city jugglers at St. Pauls Church
* Dave - Found us from newspaper; came to open house; radio and TV productions
* Andrew - Learns SQL by numbers
* Devin - Machinist and Champion at Synhak
* Jimmy - arrives late
== Announcements ==
* Dave: history project for springfield township of trolley car line that will
be converted to bike and hike trail from US224 to Springfield high school
* Alex: Will speak on Linux at Akron Linux User Group on 3/6/2014
* Andy: Thanks to Doug for helping with 3D printer. Andy has great prints of
train wheels and other objects
* Torrie: Open house last sat., heard it was fun - 130-150 visitors showed up.
We got 1000 hits on that day - usually 120 hits per day; lot of member
applications taken; pretty cool; floor plan committe has expired
* Andrew: Sent email to Jimmy hearing from him this week; Know Matt Wenger? or
Matthew Stevic? Please contact Andrew Leitholf regarding membership
application. Application needs to be processed. 2) At some point lock was
broken for desk that contains member information - the clasp specifically.
Contact information might have leaked. related to that.. if you notice locks
anywhere, please notify existing members of the space for immediate action.
* Torrie: Speakers Bureau: 8pm: March 12th Welding Session - bring closed
shoes, long pants, long sleeves, face protection provided. Please wear cotton,
denim, cloth tennis -- 3/26: Talk on how to run Synhak's Infrastructure -
ansible etc. Alex speaks on Wireless Mesh Protocols on 4/9.
* G: Cleveland Mini Maker Faire 3/29 - 100 makers, in two buildings at
Cleveland Public Library.
* Torrie: TechPint 3/6 at 6pm Jillys Music Room - small tech conference in bar
with beer $15 entry fees, come and talk about startups - Eric Wise (Akron
Software Development Guild) Ron Seide (Laird Technologies) are keynoting the
event
* BoardMeeting: 3/9 7pm; all members are invited to discuss - board members and
champions get to vote on issues. Agenda: Board Member training basically. All
discussions fair game.
* Bob: Announces: This yr is the 100th year of Civil enggg - student chapter
will be hosting a steel bridge contest. Week of 5/22-28. They have a choice of
materials to build a bridge. For those interested, civil engineers will be
coming over from all over USA. It will be held at Knight Center.
== Membership ==
* None
== Financial Report ==
* $19580.76 Assets
* $2910.5 A/r
* $2110 Liabilities
* $1525 A/c payable
* $435 util budget
* $50 in general operations
* $100 in summit build out
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
*tuesday night* From: degerov...@yahoo.com degerov...@yahoo.com To: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing? D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your "implied authority" argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
* Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a game plan for it. Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation. - That's from the minutes On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing? D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
Also: ** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant. ** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions? *** They use the words charitable use. Which carries more meaning than may appear at the surface. On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a game plan for it. Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation. - That's from the minutes On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing? D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
My understanding of the working group was that they would come up with plans to suggest to the board and members as to hope to allocate funds. This doesn't require a proposal since each disbursement would be a proposal or board action. Perhaps I misunderstood the intent though. Regards, Andrew L On Feb 27, 2014 6:31 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: Also: ** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant. ** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions? *** They use the words charitable use. Which carries more meaning than may appear at the surface. On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a game plan for it. Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation. - That's from the minutes On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing? D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 18:30:54 Michael Griesacker wrote: Also: ** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant. ** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions? *** They use the words charitable use. Which carries more meaning than may appear at the surface. If thats a proposal, perhaps Justin would like to send it to discuss@ so we can discuss how it would work. You can't just bring up during a meeting I propose FOO and never follow up on it. What good is a proposal if the proponent doesn't work to push it through and achieve consensus? On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a game plan for it. Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation. - That's from the minutes On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing? D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 21:58:00 a l wrote: My understanding of the working group was that they would come up with plans to suggest to the board and members as to hope to allocate funds. This doesn't require a proposal since each disbursement would be a proposal or board action. Sounds reasonable. Perhaps I misunderstood the intent though. Regards, Andrew L On Feb 27, 2014 6:31 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: Also: ** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant. ** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions? *** They use the words charitable use. Which carries more meaning than may appear at the surface. On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a game plan for it. Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation. - That's from the minutes On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing? D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 08:26:10 Phong wrote: ** Torrie: I have no problem with champions and CWG coexisting or even Champions being on the CWG. CWG’s only purpose is for community health. This is entirely wrong. I do have significant problems with champions being on the CWG. As I stated multiple times in the discussion, members of the CWG should *not* have any other position within the governance structure. To do so otherwise would instill resentment towards them from anti-authoritarians. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
As note taker, I would like to apologize for misrepresenting what was said in the meeting. Please feel free to edit the notes to more accurately reflect your thoughts and what was said in last night's meeting. Chris On 2/26/2014 8:56 AM, Torrie Fischer wrote: On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 08:26:10 Phong wrote: ** Torrie: I have no problem with champions and CWG coexisting or even Champions being on the CWG. CWG’s only purpose is for community health. This is entirely wrong. I do have significant problems with champions being on the CWG. As I stated multiple times in the discussion, members of the CWG should *not* have any other position within the governance structure. To do so otherwise would instill resentment towards them from anti-authoritarians. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
Seems odd to me that we vote members into positions, then act like they cannot be trusted. The 3 Champions act as the checks to oversee the operations and act as the voice of the members and non-members. I feel like the champions have (in the past) been VERY understanding of the complex nature of conflict resolution. We elect not 1 but up to 3 for a reason. This allows a person multiple channels of communication. In the past, concerns have remained candid and have been handled with tact. When has our current system broke down? I know that people have had disagreements about the direction of the space but that is expected and encouraged. Without it we stagnate. Issues arise when we cannot respect each other and resort to yelling, name calling, or other tactics. Maybe instead of a working group, outside of the elected board, we have a talk about Roberts Rules of Order, conflict resolution, and softskills? It could help everyone work together more fluidly. If this is of interest to anyone else I can talk to the speakers I know and have them lead all interested in a workshop/talk. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:17 AM, degerov...@yahoo.com degerov...@yahoo.comwrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Androidhttps://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android -- * From: * Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net; * To: * SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org; * Subject: * Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 * Sent: * Wed, Feb 26, 2014 1:56:04 PM On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 08:26:10 Phong wrote: ** Torrie: I have no problem with champions and CWG coexisting or even Champions being on the CWG. CWG's only purpose is for community health. This is entirely wrong. I do have significant problems with champions being on the CWG. As I stated multiple times in the discussion, members of the CWG should *not* have any other position within the governance structure. To do so otherwise would instill resentment towards them from anti-authoritarians. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 09:40:04 Justin Herman wrote: When has our current system broke down? my sides ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
Would it be possible to have a speaker/workshop on the topic of conflict resolution here? Do we know any group theripist that would do it for free? On the website it could be a trained skill line item like bandsaw, conflict resolution, 3d printer, ... :) On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:50 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Thanks, Devin Wolfe -- *From:* Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net *To:* SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM *Subject:* Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-18
Namaste, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-02-18 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-2-18. I've also included them in this
mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-02-18
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-25
|previous=Meetings/2014-2-11
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Torrie Fischer/Steve/Omar
* '''Moderator:''' Chris Egeland
== Introduction and Names ==
* Chris - Admins systems, runs elections
* Andy - Gets more paint on himself than the walls
* Also Chris - Helps paint Andy
* Justin - Moves things to and fro
* Anna-jeannine - A great speller
* Devin - Doesn't answer questions
* Jimmy - Applies for membership
* Craig - Clicks cookies
* Torrie - Finds people to run bakeries
* Alex - Does IT
* Steve - Failing porting chrome to powerpc
* Becca - Makes vanilla cupcakes with Gnutella icing
* Omar - Prints diplomas
* Patnode - Consumes sweets
== Announcements ==
* Chris sez: Elections are next week
** A bunch of people currently nominated
** Elections are immediately following next weeks' meeting, Feb 25th
** Midnight tonight is when nominations close
** (Chris gives an overview of the various positions in the bylaws)
** There is a wiki page, [[2014 Election]]
** Andy accepts his nomination on the spot
* Torrie sez: Spiff and ansible were updated
* Justin sez: There are a bunch of black end tables for the taking
* Becca has brought companion cube coookies!
* Devin sez: Walls in the back half are painted!
** More plumbing and drainage repairs
** We've got a week and a half 'till opening day
** It'd be super nice to get it done before the 2pm soft opening this Saturday
** More painting, more lights, more organizing
* Patnode sez: Front bathroom is 90% finished, back bathroom will be finished
before the weekend. Mike is handling the sink, Patnode is handling the painting
* Craig sez: Palm room has electrical! And networking! All that is left is a
stove outlet and sink plumbing
* Alex sez: Go to vote.notacon.org to vote for his presentation proposal
== Membership ==
* None, but Jimmy is waiting for Andrew to get in touch
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
** Liabilities: $2318.92
** Assets: $5360.34
** A/Receivable: $1522.32
** A/Payable: $1927.36
** Operations budget: $56.56
** Buildout budget: $100
== Proposals ==
* Omar's proposal to sell stuff was accepted. Check discuss@ for the full
proposal.
== Discussion Items ==
* Devin brings up the $156 expense budget
** Craig has a wiki page up
** Agreement that we need the whiter bulbs
* Torrie says that proposals should be sent to the list in their final text
before being agreed upon
** if you want to be active, 2 points, be on the discuss list, and come to
meetings
** the reason for a week to wait, something comes up during the meeting that
those on the list who may have missed can still discuss and contribute despite
a lack of physical presence.
** Justin: Concerned that the week wait can hold proposals from being acted on.
** Steve: One word changes can hold up proposals
** Torrie: Whats the alternative? Is it acceptable to have changes one minute
before the meeting?
** Justin: Membership can be smarter than the average slider
** Torrie: Concern is that too much flexibility can detract from the intent of
the proposal systems
** Chris: How much change warrants waiting a week?
*** While the waiting period can be restrictive but imagine if a change occurs
that people not present don't actually want.
** Devin: What this eliminates is miscommunication, if you don't have the
wording ready to go then you don't have a proper proposal.
** Chris: If you make a minor change then it's ok to pass it, but if it's a
major change then it should be waited on
** Torrie: No one is explaining what a little change is, should have the whole
full text of what is agreed upon.
** Justin: Sees the point of subjectivity, but it is part of the duty of the
membership that it need to remain true to what the topic is. Intention of this
rule is to allow members not present at a previous meeting that certain
proposals are coming up to vote/discussion.
** Omar: Gets that idea of self regulations, probably some way to allow it to
happen while still moving forward. i.e. proposal in discussion for some weeks,
majority are on board, down to 90% wording, just minor changes that can hold it
up for a while. What if a minimum of 3-4 weeks each weeks it's been changed,
once limit is reached it can be decided if it can be voted on as it, but at
same time proposal to change it later.
** Ajnine: A lot seem to want to move forward with a proposal thats been in
discussion for several weeks, approved the version that is unquestionably able
to be voted, over the next 7 days it can be worked as written, until a change
is voted upon.
** Torrie: Already passed a proposal that is going to be changed, no reason
can't pass a proposal and
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-18
Phong keeps doing this due to some misconfiguration on my part when the
servers were rebuilt. Sorry!
On Friday, February 21, 2014 08:26:20 Phong wrote:
Namaste, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-02-18 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-2-18. I've also included them in this
mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-02-18
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-25
|previous=Meetings/2014-2-11
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Torrie Fischer/Steve/Omar
* '''Moderator:''' Chris Egeland
== Introduction and Names ==
* Chris - Admins systems, runs elections
* Andy - Gets more paint on himself than the walls
* Also Chris - Helps paint Andy
* Justin - Moves things to and fro
* Anna-jeannine - A great speller
* Devin - Doesn't answer questions
* Jimmy - Applies for membership
* Craig - Clicks cookies
* Torrie - Finds people to run bakeries
* Alex - Does IT
* Steve - Failing porting chrome to powerpc
* Becca - Makes vanilla cupcakes with Gnutella icing
* Omar - Prints diplomas
* Patnode - Consumes sweets
== Announcements ==
* Chris sez: Elections are next week
** A bunch of people currently nominated
** Elections are immediately following next weeks' meeting, Feb 25th
** Midnight tonight is when nominations close
** (Chris gives an overview of the various positions in the bylaws)
** There is a wiki page, [[2014 Election]]
** Andy accepts his nomination on the spot
* Torrie sez: Spiff and ansible were updated
* Justin sez: There are a bunch of black end tables for the taking
* Becca has brought companion cube coookies!
* Devin sez: Walls in the back half are painted!
** More plumbing and drainage repairs
** We've got a week and a half 'till opening day
** It'd be super nice to get it done before the 2pm soft opening this
Saturday ** More painting, more lights, more organizing
* Patnode sez: Front bathroom is 90% finished, back bathroom will be
finished before the weekend. Mike is handling the sink, Patnode is handling
the painting * Craig sez: Palm room has electrical! And networking! All
that is left is a stove outlet and sink plumbing * Alex sez: Go to
vote.notacon.org to vote for his presentation proposal
== Membership ==
* None, but Jimmy is waiting for Andrew to get in touch
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
** Liabilities: $2318.92
** Assets: $5360.34
** A/Receivable: $1522.32
** A/Payable: $1927.36
** Operations budget: $56.56
** Buildout budget: $100
== Proposals ==
* Omar's proposal to sell stuff was accepted. Check discuss@ for the full
proposal.
== Discussion Items ==
* Devin brings up the $156 expense budget
** Craig has a wiki page up
** Agreement that we need the whiter bulbs
* Torrie says that proposals should be sent to the list in their final text
before being agreed upon ** if you want to be active, 2 points, be on the
discuss list, and come to meetings ** the reason for a week to wait,
something comes up during the meeting that those on the list who may have
missed can still discuss and contribute despite a lack of physical
presence. ** Justin: Concerned that the week wait can hold proposals from
being acted on. ** Steve: One word changes can hold up proposals
** Torrie: Whats the alternative? Is it acceptable to have changes one
minute before the meeting? ** Justin: Membership can be smarter than the
average slider
** Torrie: Concern is that too much flexibility can detract from the intent
of the proposal systems ** Chris: How much change warrants waiting a week?
*** While the waiting period can be restrictive but imagine if a change
occurs that people not present don't actually want. ** Devin: What this
eliminates is miscommunication, if you don't have the wording ready to go
then you don't have a proper proposal. ** Chris: If you make a minor change
then it's ok to pass it, but if it's a major change then it should be
waited on ** Torrie: No one is explaining what a little change is, should
have the whole full text of what is agreed upon. ** Justin: Sees the point
of subjectivity, but it is part of the duty of the membership that it need
to remain true to what the topic is. Intention of this rule is to allow
members not present at a previous meeting that certain proposals are coming
up to vote/discussion. ** Omar: Gets that idea of self regulations,
probably some way to allow it to happen while still moving forward. i.e.
proposal in discussion for some weeks, majority are on board, down to 90%
wording, just minor changes that can hold it up for a while. What if a
minimum of 3-4 weeks each weeks it's been changed, once limit is reached it
can be decided if it can be voted on as it, but at same time proposal to
change it later. ** Ajnine: A lot seem to want to move forward with a
proposal thats been in discussion for several weeks, approved
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-11
こんにちは, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-02-11 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-2-11. I've also included them in this
mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-02-11
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-18
|previous=Meetings/2014-2-4
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Alex Kot
== Introduction and Names ==
* Andrew - Doesn't get enough sleep
* Joel - Designs lenses
* Chris Neer - Hunts for jobs
* Devin - Internally hemmorhages
* Philip - Makin' sawdust
* G - Is here for photography
* Matt - Makes software better than the tools
* Torrie - Designs circuit boards
* Steve - Plays with android4 intel based systems
* Andy - Works a lot
* Mike - Yes.
* Becca - Makes better minecraft cakes than her coworkers
* Chris - Takes notes and doesn't talk
* Alex - Points fingers
* Craig - Hides and engages in ninja-related activities
* Omar - Poops computers
* John - Sadly cleans up after him
== Announcements ==
* Torrie - So, friendly reminder, Grand Open House March 1.
** Committee met last night and made a floor plan
* SparkAK was over the weekend, couple of startups became things
* Sundown Rundown Feb 20 at OSC Tech Lab
* Devin - We have a new awesome contractor table saw. Easy to dis-limb
yourself. Bench grinder stand, a few other awesome things.
* Mike - We have hot water now
* Andy - Notacon 11 in April, call for presenters, papers due February 21
* G - TechPint at Jilly's Music Room, March 6
* G - Meeting Thursday, February 13 at 6PM to discuss Knight Foundation things,
spraypaint is coming that day too. Lisa Stayer is the person who will be
handing SYN/HAK Knight Foundation things.
* Torrie - We have a mural of our logo in the front room. If you have ideas,
let Torrie know like, now.
* G is giving a talk at Software Craftsmanship Guild tomorrow night, so go and
heckle him
* Tuesdays at 7AM, Tuesday Tech Breakfast at Akron Family Restaurant, Wednesday
at 7AM, Cleveland Tech Breakfast at Grumpy's in Tremont.
* OSC Tech Lab has an event on Thursday at 7-9PM. 12 E. Exchange 2nd Floor
Get your startup legalfy
* G announces that he is done with announcements.
* G announces that he is not done with announcements.
* Cleveland Mini Maker Faire March 29
** 6 PM on February 18th, at Cleveland Public Library Tech Central Basement
thing. Open to public.
* G announces that he is, for now, done with announcements. For realz.
== Membership ==
* Nothing new
== Financial Report ==
* Rent check for feb sent yesterday, also paid for january gas bill, still
waiting on electrical and water
* Spiff for collecting dues and donations is coming on Thursday
* Funds in bank: Same as last week, no change
== Proposals ==
* Omar's proposal from last week
** Alex things raise prices
** Craig likes current pricing matrix
** Devin: Money's money.
** Andrew: Likes members being able to veto, but wants changes made to the idea.
** Torrie: First come, first serve
** Devin: Members get first grab, up for sale for x amount of days, then it's
open grabs
** Omar: Can only veto things that haven't been claimed. 2 weeks unsold will
go on craigslist.
** Craig: Timeframe to get this underway? Omar: After opening day.
** Andrew: Could you have something ready for opening day? Omar: Maybe three.
** Omar: Also, we could possibly donate some of the excess to neighboring
hackerspaces such as CanHax.
* Need to officially reword the proposal, and we will reissue for next week to
vote.
== Discussion Items ==
* G: We've contacted ABJ in the past, are we doing anything for opening day?
Torrie: DO IT
** Todo for G: Get in touch with Paula Schleis of ABJ
* Torrie: Will send out announce mail, twitter, G+, Chris will handle Facebook.
G will do Meetup.com
* Torrie: Please use the announce list. If you want to announce something like
TechPint or whatnot, send it to annou...@synhak.org
* Andy: Ken Burns suggested rather than using to use the money from grants for
purchasing the building, instead use it to buy machines.
* Omar: Of the computers he has pooped, one is a tablet with a digitzer pen,
possibly to be reserved for craft purposes?
** Torrie: Put it somewhere, it's a portable computer, it will be moved.
* Torrie: Next goal is start cleaning up the back of the space.
* '''Let's make'''
= End of Meeting =
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[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-04
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-02-04 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-2-4. I've also included them in this mail
for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-02-04
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-11
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-28
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Torrie Fischer
* '''Moderator:''' Alex Kot
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Chuck - Builds and has been trying to develop prototypical exercise equipment
** Found out about SYNHAK through the Akron Beacon Journal online
* Andrew - Gets behind on responsibilities
* Andy - Fixes CT machines
* Becca - Makes cakes
* Chris N. - Fixes everyone else's broken crap
* Torrie - Paints
* John - Organizes charity heavy metal shows for mental illness
* Omar - Passes fitness tests
* Mike - Resets passwords
* Martin - Becoming PIfrustrated
* Craig - Plugs in things
* Alex - Mooderates
* Mike - Makes inflatables
** Found out about SYNHAK from Larry and G
* Rae - Accountant
** Found out about SYNHAK from Mike
* Chris - Admins systems
* Larry - Works at summit racing as a website designer
** Heard about SYNHAK through G
* Philip - Chases raccoons
== Announcements ==
* Internet is back
* Andy made a new flyer for us. It is on the entry table
* Martin brought another dialysis machine, needs help unloading
** Possibly more if we need more dialysis or dialysis machines
* Omar has a joerb[[Special:Contributions/98.27.159.38|98.27.159.38]]!!!11one
* Andy has the lights working again. It is connected to a big relay so expect a
popping noise when you operate it
* Alex was at CanHAX last weekend for their first meeting.
** The Stark County Library director is exceedingly interested in the open
source concept
* Buil report
** Light are up
** Craig Omar and others are working on a server cabinet
** paint is almost ready to be applied in some rooms
*** We still need a lot of help scraping for painting the walls in the back 40
** Chris is garbage czar for the near future talk to him about things garbage
related
** gas bill will be coming in shortly, expect sticker shock
*** don't adjust the thermostat above 70 under penalty of death
** First aid station is mounted by the rear bathroom
*** Minimally stocked, we need to equip it very soon
*** Don't use the contents for ''anything except medical purposes''
** Still no hot water tank
* SparkAK
** http://osctechlab.com/
== Membership ==
* Jimmy B. still waiting on interview date
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank
** Checking: $1998.25
** Savings: $400.37
** Assets/Liabilities: Same as last week
== Proposals ==
* Omar: http://lists.synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-February/003003.html
** A proposal to setup a protocol for selling equipment
** Will be moved to a wiki for editing and general approval
*** Patnode asks: roughly how many laptops might be available?
Omar sez: No idea yet, haven't been through the piles yet.
== Discussion Items ==
* Torrie talks about her family discount package plans and prepaid month
discount plans
** More discussion on the list, will be proposed next week
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I think we have enough time to do it since Bethany apparently has lesson plans and activities made up. I'm under the impression all we have to do is get volunteers trained and advertise. Torrie has done done outreach to local schools so we might be able to get them involved to avoid certifications for SynHak regards, Andrew L On Jan 30, 2014 10:41 AM, Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinon wec should put it off till next summer On Jan 30, 2014 10:40 AM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: On the subject of the young aristotles program. We would probably finalize the dates that it will occur and begin actively promoting it. Additionally people who will be mentors/counselors should begin meeting and going over the curriculum so that we can make sure we have all of the materials we need. A concern i had was i don't know I'd we need any sort of certification to run a summer camp type activity, if we do it might be easier this year to piggy back on an Eestablished summer camp in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 29, 2014 2:17 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.com wrote: Allow me, as last night's note taker to apologize for my improper wording. I suppose a more accurate line item for the meeting's notes would be as follows: * Matt has offered to step up and help run the Young Aristotles program should the current program maintainer need or want the assistance. He has stated an interest in renaming the program to Lil' Archimedes. The way I worded it in the minutes does not accurately reflect the announcement or conversation that followed thereafter. I apologize for the inaccurate wording causing drama. The above line item more accurately reflects what happened last night. Beth, Matt's announcement was not that he is tearing the program out from under you, throwing away the work you've done, torching the concept, and creating his own kids' program. He simply offered to help run it. I would recommend that Beth and Matt contact each other outside of the list to resolve any communications issues that aren't being solved here. To clarify on the use of the word office, I apologize for that. I misused a word that has a defined meaning within SYN/HAK's governmental structure, apparently implying to some people that the person running the program in question held some sort of elected, official position within SYN/HAK. This is not the case. The proper term to use to describe the person running the program would be maintainer, since we have a definition for that word which more accurately matches the role Beth holds in regards to Little Aristotles. If anyone has any questions regarding last night's minutes, please ask soon, while the meeting is still somewhat fresh in my head. Chris On 1/29/2014 1:49 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 13:20:54 Bethany Munyan wrote: You are contradicting yourself. The position that I was in was not an office. What you just sent was for offices. I was asking why isn't this being done for any other positions, such as who is coordinating other big events that are taking place at SYN/HAK. Sorry, I must've misinterpreted your question. I assumed it was about officers: every office -- O. Rassi The way backup positions work in do-ocracies is simple and was demonstrated last night: When someone says they're stepping down, out of bandwidth, or otherwise dead to the world, someone else with the drive and motivation steps up and grabs the reins. Another examle of this is the Speaker's Bureau. When SYNHAK was just getting started, the Bureau was the first project I put together. After a while, I got too busy and totally neglected it so someone else stepped up and ran it for a bit. They too abandoned it, so I jumped in again, though this time I'm trying to run it like a real project by piecing out the work to whoever steps up. My hope is that there will no longer be one point of failure. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:29:22 Bethany Munyan wrote: Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any other position? Why just this one? 7.7. Responsibilities of the Officers 7.7.1. Champion The Champions of this Corporation shall be the general managers of the corporation and shall supervise, direct, and control the Corporation's activities, affairs, and lesser officers. Additionally, Champions shall supervise and direct each other in a manner consistent with this corporation's purpose. Each Champion shall receive a full vote on the board of directors. -- http://static.synhak.org/documents/bylaws.pdf According to precident, this section says that champions are the alternates for all the offices. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: But what was the discussion? It says in the minutes,
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
If that's what everyone wants to do but we still need background checks for all gathered volunteers . Beth can we see your lesson plans and the planning you have put into the camp so we can get an idea of where we are at On Jan 30, 2014 10:46 AM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: I think we have enough time to do it since Bethany apparently has lesson plans and activities made up. I'm under the impression all we have to do is get volunteers trained and advertise. Torrie has done done outreach to local schools so we might be able to get them involved to avoid certifications for SynHak regards, Andrew L On Jan 30, 2014 10:41 AM, Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinon wec should put it off till next summer On Jan 30, 2014 10:40 AM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: On the subject of the young aristotles program. We would probably finalize the dates that it will occur and begin actively promoting it. Additionally people who will be mentors/counselors should begin meeting and going over the curriculum so that we can make sure we have all of the materials we need. A concern i had was i don't know I'd we need any sort of certification to run a summer camp type activity, if we do it might be easier this year to piggy back on an Eestablished summer camp in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 29, 2014 2:17 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.com wrote: Allow me, as last night's note taker to apologize for my improper wording. I suppose a more accurate line item for the meeting's notes would be as follows: * Matt has offered to step up and help run the Young Aristotles program should the current program maintainer need or want the assistance. He has stated an interest in renaming the program to Lil' Archimedes. The way I worded it in the minutes does not accurately reflect the announcement or conversation that followed thereafter. I apologize for the inaccurate wording causing drama. The above line item more accurately reflects what happened last night. Beth, Matt's announcement was not that he is tearing the program out from under you, throwing away the work you've done, torching the concept, and creating his own kids' program. He simply offered to help run it. I would recommend that Beth and Matt contact each other outside of the list to resolve any communications issues that aren't being solved here. To clarify on the use of the word office, I apologize for that. I misused a word that has a defined meaning within SYN/HAK's governmental structure, apparently implying to some people that the person running the program in question held some sort of elected, official position within SYN/HAK. This is not the case. The proper term to use to describe the person running the program would be maintainer, since we have a definition for that word which more accurately matches the role Beth holds in regards to Little Aristotles. If anyone has any questions regarding last night's minutes, please ask soon, while the meeting is still somewhat fresh in my head. Chris On 1/29/2014 1:49 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 13:20:54 Bethany Munyan wrote: You are contradicting yourself. The position that I was in was not an office. What you just sent was for offices. I was asking why isn't this being done for any other positions, such as who is coordinating other big events that are taking place at SYN/HAK. Sorry, I must've misinterpreted your question. I assumed it was about officers: every office -- O. Rassi The way backup positions work in do-ocracies is simple and was demonstrated last night: When someone says they're stepping down, out of bandwidth, or otherwise dead to the world, someone else with the drive and motivation steps up and grabs the reins. Another examle of this is the Speaker's Bureau. When SYNHAK was just getting started, the Bureau was the first project I put together. After a while, I got too busy and totally neglected it so someone else stepped up and ran it for a bit. They too abandoned it, so I jumped in again, though this time I'm trying to run it like a real project by piecing out the work to whoever steps up. My hope is that there will no longer be one point of failure. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:29:22 Bethany Munyan wrote: Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any other position? Why just this one? 7.7. Responsibilities of the Officers 7.7.1. Champion The Champions of this Corporation shall be the general managers of the corporation and shall supervise, direct, and control the Corporation's activities, affairs, and lesser officers. Additionally, Champions shall supervise and direct each other in a manner consistent with this corporation's purpose. Each Champion shall receive a full vote on the board of directors.
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
I would HIGHLY recommend NOT self catering food for a fundraiser. Getting a
donation/charity discount is a MUCH safer option.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the minutes
are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-01-28
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-4
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
* Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
* Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
* Andrew - Gets snow days
* Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have their
computers fixed
* Andy - Leads
* Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
* Alex - Is rude and crude
* Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
* Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
* Mike - Shut no shut
* John - Folds paper
** Heard about us online with reddit
== Announcements ==
* Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace. 30' racecar trailer
filled with machines. Laser cutter, 2 3d printers, etc.
* BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction. Needs
committee members. Not a traditional committee, interweb committee. I
like the word committee. Needs 4-6 months to gather donations and whatnot.
Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid more. Need
to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS. Need an email list.
* Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it Lil'
Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
* Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around March
* FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78 deposit
* Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here. $125. Not
scheduled yet.
* Gas through Dominion is in our name. Needed a $238 deposit.
* Water, we need to do that. Chris will handle on Friday if he takes the
day off.
* Buildout update: Not much has happened. Need to clean, pressure wash,
paint, etc. Waiting on primer to show up.
* Paint has showed up.
* Back bathroom has a sink, not hooked up yet.
* Discussion about floorplan of a 4000 sqft bikeshed
* Back lights need bulbs. We'll buy them next month.
* March 1, open house. We need to get this done soon.
* We NEED to go to 21 and rip out electrical.
** Friday is our deadline.
* Keyholders of the old space need to turn in keys bu Thursday. If you
don't, you'll get a stern talking to.
* Torrie got the go-ahead from her daytime employer to start working
part-time on her robotics company Phong Robotics. Talk to her if you know
robotics, sensor networks, python, etc.
== Membership ==
* Becca Salchak - reasons, oh cupcakes. BRIBERY!
** Chris - What makes you happy?
*** Other than spending time with her ridiculously geeky family,
crafting, baking, anything Tolkien related. Or Shakespeare related
** Devin - What is the poison in the cupcakes?
*** Hemlock
** Andrew - Cupcakes you're the most proud of?
*** I like anything I put my peanut butter cream on. I'm working on a
mountain dew recipe.
** Andy: Ever put fireworks into cupcake concoctions?
*** Not yet.
** Mike: What speech would you give for speakers bureau?
*** Probably something to do with baking because that's what I do my
entire life.
** Matt: WHo makes good curry?
*** You, pompous asshole.
** Alex: Favorite ice cream?
*** Ben and Jerry's Late NIght Snack
** Devin: How can you benefit the snack?
*** I'm planning a silent auction to bring money to the space
** Alex: How can the space benefit you?
*** Unexcellence redacted. It gives me a space to work on that I don't
have room to work on at home.
** Craig: Dog or cat?
*** Cat. I was a dog person, but I despise my own dogs.
** '''APPROVED'''
* Chris Neer has applied for a key.
** SYN/HAK is not always open during the time I have available. I am
sure this is the case for many others. So I would like a key so that
SYN/HAK could be open more often.
** '''APPROVED'''
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
** $2543.25 in checking
** $400.37 in savings
** $158.60 in cash
** Current estimates are still on track for us to have a $300 loss this
month. Polar vortex sucks.
** $5801.04 assets
** $2746.71 in liabilities
** Electrician deal: We paid $1000, we owe $1000. He gave us a $265
discount as a charitable donation.
*** Donating a NEC2013 book.
== Proposals ==
* None
== Discussion Items ==
* Chris is ordering trash service tomorrow.
** Torrie is trying to get in touch with the Akron
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the minutes
are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-01-28
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-4
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
* Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
* Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
* Andrew - Gets snow days
* Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have their
computers fixed
* Andy - Leads
* Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
* Alex - Is rude and crude
* Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
* Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
* Mike - Shut no shut
* John - Folds paper
** Heard about us online with reddit
== Announcements ==
* Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace. 30' racecar trailer
filled with machines. Laser cutter, 2 3d printers, etc.
* BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction. Needs
committee members. Not a traditional committee, interweb committee. I
like the word committee. Needs 4-6 months to gather donations and whatnot.
Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid more. Need
to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS. Need an email list.
* Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it Lil'
Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
* Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around March
* FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78 deposit
* Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here. $125. Not
scheduled yet.
* Gas through Dominion is in our name. Needed a $238 deposit.
* Water, we need to do that. Chris will handle on Friday if he takes the
day off.
* Buildout update: Not much has happened. Need to clean, pressure wash,
paint, etc. Waiting on primer to show up.
* Paint has showed up.
* Back bathroom has a sink, not hooked up yet.
* Discussion about floorplan of a 4000 sqft bikeshed
* Back lights need bulbs. We'll buy them next month.
* March 1, open house. We need to get this done soon.
* We NEED to go to 21 and rip out electrical.
** Friday is our deadline.
* Keyholders of the old space need to turn in keys bu Thursday. If you
don't, you'll get a stern talking to.
* Torrie got the go-ahead from her daytime employer to start working
part-time on her robotics company Phong Robotics. Talk to her if you know
robotics, sensor networks, python, etc.
== Membership ==
* Becca Salchak - reasons, oh cupcakes. BRIBERY!
** Chris - What makes you happy?
*** Other than spending time with her ridiculously geeky family, crafting,
baking, anything Tolkien related. Or Shakespeare related
** Devin - What is the poison in the cupcakes?
*** Hemlock
** Andrew - Cupcakes you're the most proud of?
*** I like anything I put my peanut butter cream on. I'm working on a
mountain dew recipe.
** Andy: Ever put fireworks into cupcake concoctions?
*** Not yet.
** Mike: What speech would you give for speakers bureau?
*** Probably something to do with baking because that's what I do my
entire life.
** Matt: WHo makes good curry?
*** You, pompous asshole.
** Alex: Favorite ice cream?
*** Ben and Jerry's Late NIght Snack
** Devin: How can you benefit the snack?
*** I'm planning a silent auction to bring money to the space
** Alex: How can the space benefit you?
*** Unexcellence redacted. It gives me a space to work on that I don't
have room to work on at home.
** Craig: Dog or cat?
*** Cat. I was a dog person, but I despise my own dogs.
** '''APPROVED'''
* Chris Neer has applied for a key.
** SYN/HAK is not always open during the time I have available. I am
sure this is the case for many others. So I would like a key so that
SYN/HAK could be open more often.
** '''APPROVED'''
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
** $2543.25 in checking
** $400.37 in savings
** $158.60 in cash
** Current estimates are still on track for us to have a $300 loss this
month. Polar vortex sucks.
** $5801.04 assets
** $2746.71 in liabilities
** Electrician deal: We paid $1000, we owe $1000. He gave us a $265
discount as a charitable donation.
*** Donating a NEC2013 book.
== Proposals ==
* None
== Discussion Items ==
* Chris is ordering trash service tomorrow.
** Torrie is trying to get in touch with the Akron Bar Association.
* Omar? Where can people send physical things?
** 12 E. Exchange St., Akron OH 44308 c/o SYN/HAK
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
I wasn't there at the time this came up so I don't know all the specific
details. If another member who was there could elaborate for Bethany as
this has been her project from the beginning, that would be great.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bethany Munyan beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
So if someone does take over it, they will be completely disregarding all
the work I put into it? Do they know how long it took to come up with that
name? Do they know we already have some lesson plans written out? Along
with a syllabus?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
I arrived late so I didn't hear that part of the discussion but it seems
as if Matt would either be an alternate point of contact or take the reigns
should you become unable to work actively on it. No one is taking it over
at this time but after having the office of treasurer changeover it has
been suggested that alternates for important areas be identified. This is
most likely a response to the accident totalling out your car, without
transportation its hard to stay involved, unfortunately. Just sharing a car
for me makes it hard to stay involved. Again, no one is actively taking
over the project from you currently, I think this is just in case.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the
minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-01-28
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-4
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
* Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
* Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
* Andrew - Gets snow days
* Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have their
computers fixed
* Andy - Leads
* Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
* Alex - Is rude and crude
* Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
* Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
* Mike - Shut no shut
* John - Folds paper
** Heard about us online with reddit
== Announcements ==
* Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace. 30' racecar trailer
filled with machines. Laser cutter, 2 3d printers, etc.
* BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction. Needs
committee members. Not a traditional committee, interweb committee. I
like the word committee. Needs 4-6 months to gather donations and whatnot.
Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid more. Need
to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS. Need an email list.
* Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it Lil'
Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
* Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around March
* FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78 deposit
* Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here. $125. Not
scheduled yet.
* Gas through Dominion is in our name. Needed a $238 deposit.
* Water, we need to do that. Chris will handle on Friday if he takes
the day off.
* Buildout update: Not much has happened. Need to clean, pressure
wash, paint, etc. Waiting on primer to show up.
* Paint has showed up.
* Back bathroom has a sink, not hooked up yet.
* Discussion about floorplan of a 4000 sqft bikeshed
* Back lights need bulbs. We'll buy them next month.
* March 1, open house. We need to get this done soon.
* We NEED to go to 21 and rip out electrical.
** Friday is our deadline.
* Keyholders of the old space need to turn in keys bu Thursday. If you
don't, you'll get a stern talking to.
* Torrie got the go-ahead from her daytime employer to start working
part-time on her robotics company Phong Robotics. Talk to her if you know
robotics, sensor networks, python, etc.
== Membership ==
* Becca Salchak - reasons, oh cupcakes. BRIBERY!
** Chris - What makes you happy?
*** Other than spending time with her ridiculously geeky family,
crafting, baking, anything Tolkien related. Or Shakespeare related
** Devin - What is the poison in the cupcakes?
*** Hemlock
** Andrew - Cupcakes you're the most proud of?
*** I like anything I put my peanut butter cream on. I'm working on a
mountain dew recipe.
** Andy: Ever put fireworks into cupcake concoctions?
*** Not yet.
** Mike: What speech would you give for speakers bureau?
*** Probably something to do with baking because that's what I do my
entire life.
** Matt: WHo makes good curry?
*** You, pompous asshole.
** Alex: Favorite ice cream?
*** Ben and
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
It seems very heavy handed to take a project someone has been working on
and remove it from them. ESP since Bethany HAS remained in contact, unlike
the treasury position.
Actions like this can make people who wish to contribute, feel like what
they do is not valued. NOT COOL
This NEEDS to be rectified.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bethany Munyan beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
So if someone does take over it, they will be completely disregarding all
the work I put into it? Do they know how long it took to come up with that
name? Do they know we already have some lesson plans written out? Along
with a syllabus?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
I arrived late so I didn't hear that part of the discussion but it seems
as if Matt would either be an alternate point of contact or take the reigns
should you become unable to work actively on it. No one is taking it over
at this time but after having the office of treasurer changeover it has
been suggested that alternates for important areas be identified. This is
most likely a response to the accident totalling out your car, without
transportation its hard to stay involved, unfortunately. Just sharing a car
for me makes it hard to stay involved. Again, no one is actively taking
over the project from you currently, I think this is just in case.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the
minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-01-28
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-4
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
* Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
* Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
* Andrew - Gets snow days
* Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have their
computers fixed
* Andy - Leads
* Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
* Alex - Is rude and crude
* Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
* Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
* Mike - Shut no shut
* John - Folds paper
** Heard about us online with reddit
== Announcements ==
* Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace. 30' racecar trailer
filled with machines. Laser cutter, 2 3d printers, etc.
* BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction. Needs
committee members. Not a traditional committee, interweb committee. I
like the word committee. Needs 4-6 months to gather donations and whatnot.
Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid more. Need
to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS. Need an email list.
* Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it Lil'
Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
* Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around March
* FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78 deposit
* Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here. $125. Not
scheduled yet.
* Gas through Dominion is in our name. Needed a $238 deposit.
* Water, we need to do that. Chris will handle on Friday if he takes
the day off.
* Buildout update: Not much has happened. Need to clean, pressure
wash, paint, etc. Waiting on primer to show up.
* Paint has showed up.
* Back bathroom has a sink, not hooked up yet.
* Discussion about floorplan of a 4000 sqft bikeshed
* Back lights need bulbs. We'll buy them next month.
* March 1, open house. We need to get this done soon.
* We NEED to go to 21 and rip out electrical.
** Friday is our deadline.
* Keyholders of the old space need to turn in keys bu Thursday. If you
don't, you'll get a stern talking to.
* Torrie got the go-ahead from her daytime employer to start working
part-time on her robotics company Phong Robotics. Talk to her if you know
robotics, sensor networks, python, etc.
== Membership ==
* Becca Salchak - reasons, oh cupcakes. BRIBERY!
** Chris - What makes you happy?
*** Other than spending time with her ridiculously geeky family,
crafting, baking, anything Tolkien related. Or Shakespeare related
** Devin - What is the poison in the cupcakes?
*** Hemlock
** Andrew - Cupcakes you're the most proud of?
*** I like anything I put my peanut butter cream on. I'm working on a
mountain dew recipe.
** Andy: Ever put fireworks into cupcake concoctions?
*** Not yet.
** Mike: What speech would you give for speakers bureau?
*** Probably something to do with baking because that's what I do my
entire life.
** Matt: WHo
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
But what was the discussion? It says in the minutes, should a vacancy in
that office occur. Currently there is no vacancy nor is one expected. From
my perspective, every office should identify an alternate person in the
event that the primary can no longer fulfill the required function, whether
its temporary or permanent.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems very heavy handed to take a project someone has been working on
and remove it from them. ESP since Bethany HAS remained in contact, unlike
the treasury position.
Actions like this can make people who wish to contribute, feel like what
they do is not valued. NOT COOL
This NEEDS to be rectified.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bethany Munyan beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
So if someone does take over it, they will be completely disregarding all
the work I put into it? Do they know how long it took to come up with that
name? Do they know we already have some lesson plans written out? Along
with a syllabus?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
I arrived late so I didn't hear that part of the discussion but it seems
as if Matt would either be an alternate point of contact or take the reigns
should you become unable to work actively on it. No one is taking it over
at this time but after having the office of treasurer changeover it has
been suggested that alternates for important areas be identified. This is
most likely a response to the accident totalling out your car, without
transportation its hard to stay involved, unfortunately. Just sharing a car
for me makes it hard to stay involved. Again, no one is actively taking
over the project from you currently, I think this is just in case.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan
beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the
minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included them
in this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-01-28
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-4
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
* Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
* Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
* Andrew - Gets snow days
* Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have their
computers fixed
* Andy - Leads
* Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
* Alex - Is rude and crude
* Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
* Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
* Mike - Shut no shut
* John - Folds paper
** Heard about us online with reddit
== Announcements ==
* Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace. 30' racecar trailer
filled with machines. Laser cutter, 2 3d printers, etc.
* BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction. Needs
committee members. Not a traditional committee, interweb committee. I
like the word committee. Needs 4-6 months to gather donations and
whatnot.
Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid more. Need
to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS. Need an email list.
* Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it Lil'
Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
* Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around March
* FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78 deposit
* Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here. $125. Not
scheduled yet.
* Gas through Dominion is in our name. Needed a $238 deposit.
* Water, we need to do that. Chris will handle on Friday if he takes
the day off.
* Buildout update: Not much has happened. Need to clean, pressure
wash, paint, etc. Waiting on primer to show up.
* Paint has showed up.
* Back bathroom has a sink, not hooked up yet.
* Discussion about floorplan of a 4000 sqft bikeshed
* Back lights need bulbs. We'll buy them next month.
* March 1, open house. We need to get this done soon.
* We NEED to go to 21 and rip out electrical.
** Friday is our deadline.
* Keyholders of the old space need to turn in keys bu Thursday. If
you don't, you'll get a stern talking to.
* Torrie got the go-ahead from her daytime employer to start working
part-time on her robotics company Phong Robotics. Talk to her if you know
robotics, sensor networks, python, etc.
== Membership ==
* Becca Salchak - reasons, oh cupcakes. BRIBERY!
** Chris - What makes you happy?
*** Other than spending time with her ridiculously geeky family,
crafting, baking, anything Tolkien related. Or Shakespeare related
** Devin - What
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any other
position? Why just this one?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
But what was the discussion? It says in the minutes, should a vacancy in
that office occur. Currently there is no vacancy nor is one expected. From
my perspective, every office should identify an alternate person in the
event that the primary can no longer fulfill the required function, whether
its temporary or permanent.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems very heavy handed to take a project someone has been working on
and remove it from them. ESP since Bethany HAS remained in contact, unlike
the treasury position.
Actions like this can make people who wish to contribute, feel like what
they do is not valued. NOT COOL
This NEEDS to be rectified.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bethany Munyan
beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
So if someone does take over it, they will be completely disregarding
all the work I put into it? Do they know how long it took to come up with
that name? Do they know we already have some lesson plans written out?
Along with a syllabus?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.comwrote:
I arrived late so I didn't hear that part of the discussion but it
seems as if Matt would either be an alternate point of contact or take the
reigns should you become unable to work actively on it. No one is taking it
over at this time but after having the office of treasurer changeover it
has been suggested that alternates for important areas be identified. This
is most likely a response to the accident totalling out your car, without
transportation its hard to stay involved, unfortunately. Just sharing a car
for me makes it hard to stay involved. Again, no one is actively taking
over the project from you currently, I think this is just in case.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan
beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the
minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included them
in this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-01-28
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-4
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
* Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
* Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
* Andrew - Gets snow days
* Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have their
computers fixed
* Andy - Leads
* Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
* Alex - Is rude and crude
* Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
* Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
* Mike - Shut no shut
* John - Folds paper
** Heard about us online with reddit
== Announcements ==
* Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace. 30' racecar
trailer filled with machines. Laser cutter, 2 3d printers, etc.
* BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction. Needs
committee members. Not a traditional committee, interweb committee. I
like the word committee. Needs 4-6 months to gather donations and
whatnot.
Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid more. Need
to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS. Need an email list.
* Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it Lil'
Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
* Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around March
* FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78 deposit
* Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here. $125. Not
scheduled yet.
* Gas through Dominion is in our name. Needed a $238 deposit.
* Water, we need to do that. Chris will handle on Friday if he takes
the day off.
* Buildout update: Not much has happened. Need to clean, pressure
wash, paint, etc. Waiting on primer to show up.
* Paint has showed up.
* Back bathroom has a sink, not hooked up yet.
* Discussion about floorplan of a 4000 sqft bikeshed
* Back lights need bulbs. We'll buy them next month.
* March 1, open house. We need to get this done soon.
* We NEED to go to 21 and rip out electrical.
** Friday is our deadline.
* Keyholders of the old space need to turn in keys bu Thursday. If
you don't, you'll get a stern talking to.
* Torrie got the go-ahead from her daytime employer to start working
part-time on her robotics company Phong Robotics. Talk to her if you
know
robotics, sensor networks, python, etc.
== Membership ==
* Becca Salchak - reasons, oh cupcakes. BRIBERY!
**
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 09:46:45 Bethany Munyan wrote:
Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
They said that the person who was doing it had stepped away from SYNHAK, or
was otherwise giving up responsibility for it.
Its not really taking over, its more picking up where it left off.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the minutes
are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-01-28
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-4
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
* Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
* Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
* Andrew - Gets snow days
* Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have their
computers fixed
* Andy - Leads
* Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
* Alex - Is rude and crude
* Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
* Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
* Mike - Shut no shut
* John - Folds paper
** Heard about us online with reddit
== Announcements ==
* Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace. 30' racecar trailer
filled with machines. Laser cutter, 2 3d printers, etc.
* BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction. Needs
committee members. Not a traditional committee, interweb committee. I
like the word committee. Needs 4-6 months to gather donations and
whatnot.
Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid more. Need
to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS. Need an email list.
* Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it Lil'
Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
* Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around March
* FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78 deposit
* Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here. $125. Not
scheduled yet.
* Gas through Dominion is in our name. Needed a $238 deposit.
* Water, we need to do that. Chris will handle on Friday if he takes the
day off.
* Buildout update: Not much has happened. Need to clean, pressure wash,
paint, etc. Waiting on primer to show up.
* Paint has showed up.
* Back bathroom has a sink, not hooked up yet.
* Discussion about floorplan of a 4000 sqft bikeshed
* Back lights need bulbs. We'll buy them next month.
* March 1, open house. We need to get this done soon.
* We NEED to go to 21 and rip out electrical.
** Friday is our deadline.
* Keyholders of the old space need to turn in keys bu Thursday. If you
don't, you'll get a stern talking to.
* Torrie got the go-ahead from her daytime employer to start working
part-time on her robotics company Phong Robotics. Talk to her if you know
robotics, sensor networks, python, etc.
== Membership ==
* Becca Salchak - reasons, oh cupcakes. BRIBERY!
** Chris - What makes you happy?
*** Other than spending time with her ridiculously geeky family, crafting,
baking, anything Tolkien related. Or Shakespeare related
** Devin - What is the poison in the cupcakes?
*** Hemlock
** Andrew - Cupcakes you're the most proud of?
*** I like anything I put my peanut butter cream on. I'm working on a
mountain dew recipe.
** Andy: Ever put fireworks into cupcake concoctions?
*** Not yet.
** Mike: What speech would you give for speakers bureau?
*** Probably something to do with baking because that's what I do my
entire life.
** Matt: WHo makes good curry?
*** You, pompous asshole.
** Alex: Favorite ice cream?
*** Ben and Jerry's Late NIght Snack
** Devin: How can you benefit the snack?
*** I'm planning a silent auction to bring money to the space
** Alex: How can the space benefit you?
*** Unexcellence redacted. It gives me a space to work on that I don't
have room to work on at home.
** Craig: Dog or cat?
*** Cat. I was a dog person, but I despise my own dogs.
** '''APPROVED'''
* Chris Neer has applied for a key.
** SYN/HAK is not always open during the time I have available. I am
sure this is the case for many others. So I would like a key so that
SYN/HAK could be open more often.
** '''APPROVED'''
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
** $2543.25 in checking
** $400.37 in savings
** $158.60 in cash
** Current estimates are still on track for us to have a $300 loss this
month. Polar vortex sucks.
** $5801.04 assets
** $2746.71 in liabilities
** Electrician deal: We paid $1000, we owe $1000. He gave us a $265
discount as a
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:25:45 Omar Rassi wrote:
But what was the discussion? It says in the minutes, should a vacancy in
that office occur. Currently there is no vacancy nor is one expected. From
my perspective, every office should identify an alternate person in the
event that the primary can no longer fulfill the required function, whether
its temporary or permanent.
We've only got six offices, and Person Who Does Little Aristotles isn't one of
them.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems very heavy handed to take a project someone has been working on
and remove it from them. ESP since Bethany HAS remained in contact, unlike
the treasury position.
Actions like this can make people who wish to contribute, feel like what
they do is not valued. NOT COOL
This NEEDS to be rectified.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bethany Munyan
beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
So if someone does take over it, they will be completely disregarding all
the work I put into it? Do they know how long it took to come up with
that
name? Do they know we already have some lesson plans written out? Along
with a syllabus?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
I arrived late so I didn't hear that part of the discussion but it seems
as if Matt would either be an alternate point of contact or take the
reigns
should you become unable to work actively on it. No one is taking it
over
at this time but after having the office of treasurer changeover it has
been suggested that alternates for important areas be identified. This
is
most likely a response to the accident totalling out your car, without
transportation its hard to stay involved, unfortunately. Just sharing a
car
for me makes it hard to stay involved. Again, no one is actively taking
over the project from you currently, I think this is just in case.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan
beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the
minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included them
in this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-01-28
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-4
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
* Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
* Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
* Andrew - Gets snow days
* Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have their
computers fixed
* Andy - Leads
* Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
* Alex - Is rude and crude
* Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
* Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
* Mike - Shut no shut
* John - Folds paper
** Heard about us online with reddit
== Announcements ==
* Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace. 30' racecar trailer
filled with machines. Laser cutter, 2 3d printers, etc.
* BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction. Needs
committee members. Not a traditional committee, interweb committee.
I
like the word committee. Needs 4-6 months to gather donations and
whatnot.
Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid more.
Need
to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS. Need an email list.
* Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it Lil'
Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
* Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around March
* FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78 deposit
* Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here. $125. Not
scheduled yet.
* Gas through Dominion is in our name. Needed a $238 deposit.
* Water, we need to do that. Chris will handle on Friday if he takes
the day off.
* Buildout update: Not much has happened. Need to clean, pressure
wash, paint, etc. Waiting on primer to show up.
* Paint has showed up.
* Back bathroom has a sink, not hooked up yet.
* Discussion about floorplan of a 4000 sqft bikeshed
* Back lights need bulbs. We'll buy them next month.
* March 1, open house. We need to get this done soon.
* We NEED to go to 21 and rip out electrical.
** Friday is our deadline.
* Keyholders of the old space need to turn in keys bu Thursday. If
you don't, you'll get a stern talking to.
* Torrie got the go-ahead from her daytime employer to start working
part-time on her robotics company Phong Robotics. Talk to her if you
know
robotics,
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:29:22 Bethany Munyan wrote:
Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any other
position? Why just this one?
7.7. Responsibilities of the Officers
7.7.1. Champion
The Champions of this Corporation shall be the general managers of the
corporation and shall supervise, direct, and control the Corporation's
activities, affairs, and lesser officers. Additionally, Champions shall
supervise and direct each other in a manner consistent with this corporation's
purpose. Each Champion shall receive a full vote on the board of directors.
-- http://static.synhak.org/documents/bylaws.pdf
According to precident, this section says that champions are the alternates
for all the offices.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
But what was the discussion? It says in the minutes, should a vacancy in
that office occur. Currently there is no vacancy nor is one expected.
From
my perspective, every office should identify an alternate person in the
event that the primary can no longer fulfill the required function,
whether
its temporary or permanent.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems very heavy handed to take a project someone has been working on
and remove it from them. ESP since Bethany HAS remained in contact,
unlike
the treasury position.
Actions like this can make people who wish to contribute, feel like what
they do is not valued. NOT COOL
This NEEDS to be rectified.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bethany Munyan
beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
So if someone does take over it, they will be completely disregarding
all the work I put into it? Do they know how long it took to come up
with
that name? Do they know we already have some lesson plans written out?
Along with a syllabus?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.comwrote:
I arrived late so I didn't hear that part of the discussion but it
seems as if Matt would either be an alternate point of contact or take
the
reigns should you become unable to work actively on it. No one is
taking it
over at this time but after having the office of treasurer changeover
it
has been suggested that alternates for important areas be identified.
This
is most likely a response to the accident totalling out your car,
without
transportation its hard to stay involved, unfortunately. Just sharing a
car
for me makes it hard to stay involved. Again, no one is actively taking
over the project from you currently, I think this is just in case.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan
beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the
minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included them
in this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-01-28
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-4
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
* Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
* Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
* Andrew - Gets snow days
* Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have their
computers fixed
* Andy - Leads
* Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
* Alex - Is rude and crude
* Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
* Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
* Mike - Shut no shut
* John - Folds paper
** Heard about us online with reddit
== Announcements ==
* Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace. 30' racecar
trailer filled with machines. Laser cutter, 2 3d printers, etc.
* BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction. Needs
committee members. Not a traditional committee, interweb committee.
I
like the word committee. Needs 4-6 months to gather donations and
whatnot.
Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid more.
Need
to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS. Need an email list.
* Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it Lil'
Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
* Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around March
* FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78 deposit
* Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here. $125. Not
scheduled yet.
* Gas through Dominion is in our name. Needed a $238 deposit.
* Water, we need to do that. Chris will handle on Friday if he takes
the day off.
* Buildout update: Not much
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
You are contradicting yourself. The position that I was in was not an
office. What you just sent was for offices. I was asking why isn't this
being done for any other positions, such as who is coordinating other big
events that are taking place at SYN/HAK.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Torrie Fischer
tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:29:22 Bethany Munyan wrote:
Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any other
position? Why just this one?
7.7. Responsibilities of the Officers
7.7.1. Champion
The Champions of this Corporation shall be the general managers of the
corporation and shall supervise, direct, and control the Corporation's
activities, affairs, and lesser officers. Additionally, Champions shall
supervise and direct each other in a manner consistent with this
corporation's
purpose. Each Champion shall receive a full vote on the board of directors.
-- http://static.synhak.org/documents/bylaws.pdf
According to precident, this section says that champions are the alternates
for all the offices.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com
wrote:
But what was the discussion? It says in the minutes, should a vacancy
in
that office occur. Currently there is no vacancy nor is one expected.
From
my perspective, every office should identify an alternate person in the
event that the primary can no longer fulfill the required function,
whether
its temporary or permanent.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com
wrote:
It seems very heavy handed to take a project someone has been working
on
and remove it from them. ESP since Bethany HAS remained in contact,
unlike
the treasury position.
Actions like this can make people who wish to contribute, feel like
what
they do is not valued. NOT COOL
This NEEDS to be rectified.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bethany Munyan
beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
So if someone does take over it, they will be completely disregarding
all the work I put into it? Do they know how long it took to come up
with
that name? Do they know we already have some lesson plans written
out?
Along with a syllabus?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com
wrote:
I arrived late so I didn't hear that part of the discussion but it
seems as if Matt would either be an alternate point of contact or
take
the
reigns should you become unable to work actively on it. No one is
taking it
over at this time but after having the office of treasurer
changeover
it
has been suggested that alternates for important areas be
identified.
This
is most likely a response to the accident totalling out your car,
without
transportation its hard to stay involved, unfortunately. Just
sharing a
car
for me makes it hard to stay involved. Again, no one is actively
taking
over the project from you currently, I think this is just in case.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan
beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the
minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included
them
in this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-01-28
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-4
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
* Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
* Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
* Andrew - Gets snow days
* Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have their
computers fixed
* Andy - Leads
* Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
* Alex - Is rude and crude
* Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
* Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
* Mike - Shut no shut
* John - Folds paper
** Heard about us online with reddit
== Announcements ==
* Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace. 30' racecar
trailer filled with machines. Laser cutter, 2 3d printers, etc.
* BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction. Needs
committee members. Not a traditional committee, interweb
committee.
I
like the word committee. Needs 4-6 months to gather donations and
whatnot.
Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid
more.
Need
to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS. Need an email list.
* Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it Lil'
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 13:20:54 Bethany Munyan wrote:
You are contradicting yourself. The position that I was in was not an
office. What you just sent was for offices. I was asking why isn't this
being done for any other positions, such as who is coordinating other big
events that are taking place at SYN/HAK.
Sorry, I must've misinterpreted your question. I assumed it was about
officers:
every office
-- O. Rassi
The way backup positions work in do-ocracies is simple and was demonstrated
last night: When someone says they're stepping down, out of bandwidth, or
otherwise dead to the world, someone else with the drive and motivation steps
up and grabs the reins.
Another examle of this is the Speaker's Bureau. When SYNHAK was just getting
started, the Bureau was the first project I put together. After a while, I got
too busy and totally neglected it so someone else stepped up and ran it for a
bit. They too abandoned it, so I jumped in again, though this time I'm trying
to run it like a real project by piecing out the work to whoever steps up. My
hope is that there will no longer be one point of failure.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Torrie Fischer
tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:29:22 Bethany Munyan wrote:
Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any other
position? Why just this one?
7.7. Responsibilities of the Officers
7.7.1. Champion
The Champions of this Corporation shall be the general managers of the
corporation and shall supervise, direct, and control the Corporation's
activities, affairs, and lesser officers. Additionally, Champions shall
supervise and direct each other in a manner consistent with this
corporation's
purpose. Each Champion shall receive a full vote on the board of
directors.
-- http://static.synhak.org/documents/bylaws.pdf
According to precident, this section says that champions are the
alternates
for all the offices.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com
wrote:
But what was the discussion? It says in the minutes, should a vacancy
in
that office occur. Currently there is no vacancy nor is one expected.
From
my perspective, every office should identify an alternate person in
the
event that the primary can no longer fulfill the required function,
whether
its temporary or permanent.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com
wrote:
It seems very heavy handed to take a project someone has been working
on
and remove it from them. ESP since Bethany HAS remained in contact,
unlike
the treasury position.
Actions like this can make people who wish to contribute, feel like
what
they do is not valued. NOT COOL
This NEEDS to be rectified.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bethany Munyan
beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
So if someone does take over it, they will be completely
disregarding
all the work I put into it? Do they know how long it took to come
up
with
that name? Do they know we already have some lesson plans written
out?
Along with a syllabus?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com
wrote:
I arrived late so I didn't hear that part of the discussion but it
seems as if Matt would either be an alternate point of contact or
take
the
reigns should you become unable to work actively on it. No one is
taking it
over at this time but after having the office of treasurer
changeover
it
has been suggested that alternates for important areas be
identified.
This
is most likely a response to the accident totalling out your car,
without
transportation its hard to stay involved, unfortunately. Just
sharing a
car
for me makes it hard to stay involved. Again, no one is actively
taking
over the project from you currently, I think this is just in case.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan
beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the
minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included
them
in this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-01-28
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-4
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
* Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
I agree Justin less of a liability on our end
On Jan 29, 2014 9:50 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote:
I would HIGHLY recommend NOT self catering food for a fundraiser. Getting
a donation/charity discount is a MUCH safer option.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote:
Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the minutes
are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-01-28
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=Meetings/2014-2-4
|previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
* Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
* Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
* Andrew - Gets snow days
* Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have their
computers fixed
* Andy - Leads
* Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
* Alex - Is rude and crude
* Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
* Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
* Mike - Shut no shut
* John - Folds paper
** Heard about us online with reddit
== Announcements ==
* Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace. 30' racecar trailer
filled with machines. Laser cutter, 2 3d printers, etc.
* BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction. Needs
committee members. Not a traditional committee, interweb committee. I
like the word committee. Needs 4-6 months to gather donations and whatnot.
Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid more. Need
to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS. Need an email list.
* Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it Lil'
Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
* Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around March
* FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78 deposit
* Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here. $125. Not
scheduled yet.
* Gas through Dominion is in our name. Needed a $238 deposit.
* Water, we need to do that. Chris will handle on Friday if he takes
the day off.
* Buildout update: Not much has happened. Need to clean, pressure wash,
paint, etc. Waiting on primer to show up.
* Paint has showed up.
* Back bathroom has a sink, not hooked up yet.
* Discussion about floorplan of a 4000 sqft bikeshed
* Back lights need bulbs. We'll buy them next month.
* March 1, open house. We need to get this done soon.
* We NEED to go to 21 and rip out electrical.
** Friday is our deadline.
* Keyholders of the old space need to turn in keys bu Thursday. If you
don't, you'll get a stern talking to.
* Torrie got the go-ahead from her daytime employer to start working
part-time on her robotics company Phong Robotics. Talk to her if you know
robotics, sensor networks, python, etc.
== Membership ==
* Becca Salchak - reasons, oh cupcakes. BRIBERY!
** Chris - What makes you happy?
*** Other than spending time with her ridiculously geeky family,
crafting, baking, anything Tolkien related. Or Shakespeare related
** Devin - What is the poison in the cupcakes?
*** Hemlock
** Andrew - Cupcakes you're the most proud of?
*** I like anything I put my peanut butter cream on. I'm working on a
mountain dew recipe.
** Andy: Ever put fireworks into cupcake concoctions?
*** Not yet.
** Mike: What speech would you give for speakers bureau?
*** Probably something to do with baking because that's what I do my
entire life.
** Matt: WHo makes good curry?
*** You, pompous asshole.
** Alex: Favorite ice cream?
*** Ben and Jerry's Late NIght Snack
** Devin: How can you benefit the snack?
*** I'm planning a silent auction to bring money to the space
** Alex: How can the space benefit you?
*** Unexcellence redacted. It gives me a space to work on that I don't
have room to work on at home.
** Craig: Dog or cat?
*** Cat. I was a dog person, but I despise my own dogs.
** '''APPROVED'''
* Chris Neer has applied for a key.
** SYN/HAK is not always open during the time I have available. I am
sure this is the case for many others. So I would like a key so that
SYN/HAK could be open more often.
** '''APPROVED'''
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
** $2543.25 in checking
** $400.37 in savings
** $158.60 in cash
** Current estimates are still on track for us to have a $300 loss this
month. Polar vortex sucks.
** $5801.04 assets
** $2746.71 in liabilities
** Electrician deal: We paid $1000, we owe $1000. He gave us a $265
discount as a charitable donation.
*** Donating a NEC2013 book.
== Proposals ==
* None
==
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-07
Bonjour, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-07 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-7. I've also included them in this mail
for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-1-7
|venue=21 West North
|next=Meetings/2014-1-14
|previous=Meetings/2013-12-31
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Andrew
* '''Moderator:''' Omar
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Dennis Onderak
** Electrical engineer
** President of USA Robotics
*** Met us at mini-Makerfaire, made a new years resolution to come to a meeting
and eventually become a member
* Andy - Does the cold
* Mike - Physicist
* Driel - Hair dresser
** Refered to us by her brother Chris
* Matt - attempts to superconduct
* Chris - Still an auto-mechanic and came to get voted in
* Alex - Stands on foam to keep toes movable
* Andrew - type things, and yeah
* Torrie - visits hackerspaces and gets on Hackaday.com for writing python
g-code key cutting script
* Omar - smooth moderater moderating correctly
* Jimmy - Hides in the back and gets forgotten :(
** Personal software projects
== Announcements ==
* February Elections for officers and champions will commence. Nominations are
open
* Officially moving to 48 S. Summit between Akron Art space and Quakersquare
** don't just walk in, the sign is lying.
** Things are being done and you may get dusty or painty
** The space has a lot of potential, but still needs TLC
** Move in day 01/18/14
*** projected 5hr hackerspace migration from 21 W. North to 48 S. Summit
* Some treasurer issues have been resolved
** financial report sent to mailing list
** important paperwork in Torrie's possesion
** Reports of our demise are greatly exxagerated
* Chris shot boiling water from a super-soaker
** turned to snow last night
* Torrie was at Office space co-working
** OSC tech-lab above house of hunan has just opened and you are encouraged to
stop buy
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
* Chris Neer - Because I enjoy making things and helping others and I can do
both here in good company
** Has a honda civic hybrid motor and wants to put it in a bike/kart
*** Hoping to get help on the ESC 144V
** Generally is mechanically inclined and studying computer science and
engineering
* Why'd you choose that field
** I don't want to work as an automechanic anymore , return to my roots with
computers.
* What makes you happy
** OMar gets mad his question is stolen
** Different things, helping people, doing good deeds, solving problems
* Do you have a favorite 3D program autocad, sketch-up, blender?
** I know autocad but it could be fun to expand my knowledge
* What could you contribute to the Synhak community
** time, mechanical knowledge
* Favorite project that your found rewarding?
** Building my last computer
* what'd you put in it[the computer]
**...parts
* What do you most want to learn?
** software and programming
*** what's your end goal in programming
I don't have one yet, just explore
* voting commences and airing of grievences
* Torrie: Chris has been here for a number of weeks(months?)
** Gets stuff done, overlaps skills with Devin.
* Questions about whether discussion is s'posed to be here
* Alex give positive feedback
Chris's membership status: Approved
SynHak membership: 21, 2 pending
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank: 2785.95 in combined accounts
** Less than 1029 in uncollected dues
*** The Dues Fairy will be visiting you
* 8259.99 in $, things,
* 2785 in Liabilities
* More details available in financial report compiled by the acting treasurer
* March information missing, BFG will clarify
== Proposals ==
* Beth Munyan - wants a key to: assist in open hours, and work on young
aristotles, aid in maintaining donations
** Motion carries
** on receipt of $25 keys will be dispensed
* Torrie wants to raise base member dues to $40/month to increase funds to
SynHak
** Really up to board but community input can sway votes
** More $$ == more tools and better looking space
** Potential for funding personal projects or subsidize improvements to the
space
*** Other communities do this and it'd be cool
** Torrie will produce a budget to describe her vision and justify the added
expense
== Discussion Items ==
* If member dues could be increased even by $5/month our income greatly
increases
** Spiff dues payment has been made a bit more friendly.
** Auto-payment implemented
** Will be deployed by opening day
___
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[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-07
こんにちは, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-07 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-7. I've also included them in this mail
for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2014-1-7
|venue=21 West North
|next=Meetings/2014-1-14
|previous=Meetings/2013-12-31
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Andrew
* '''Moderator:''' Omar
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Dennis Onderak
** Electrical engineer
** President of USA Robotics
*** Met us at mini-Makerfaire, made a new years resolution to come to a meeting
and eventually become a member
* Andy - Does the cold
* Mike - Physicist
* Driel - Hair dresser
** Refered to us by her brother Chris
* Matt - attempts to superconduct
* Chris - Still an auto-mechanic and came to get voted in
* Alex - Stands on foam to keep toes movable
* Andrew - type things, and yeah
* Torrie - visits hackerspaces and gets on Hackaday.com for writing python
g-code key cutting script
* Omar - smooth moderater moderating correctly
* Jimmy - Hides in the back and gets forgotten :(
** Personal software projects
== Announcements ==
* February Elections for officers and champions will commence. Nominations are
open
* Officially moving to 48 S. Summit between Akron Art space and Quakersquare
** don't just walk in, the sign is lying.
** Things are being done and you may get dusty or painty
** The space has a lot of potential, but still needs TLC
** Move in day 01/18/14
*** projected 5hr hackerspace migration from 21 W. North to 48 S. Summit
* Some treasurer issues have been resolved
** financial report sent to mailing list
** important paperwork in Torrie's possesion
** Reports of our demise are greatly exxagerated
* Chris shot boiling water from a super-soaker
** turned to snow last night
* Torrie was at Office space co-working
** OSC tech-lab above house of hunan has just opened and you are encouraged to
stop buy
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
* Chris Neer - Because I enjoy making things and helping others and I can do
both here in good company
** Has a honda civic hybrid motor and wants to put it in a bike/kart
*** Hoping to get help on the ESC 144V
** Generally is mechanically inclined and studying computer science and
engineering
* Why'd you choose that field
** I don't want to work as an automechanic anymore , return to my roots with
computers.
* What makes you happy
** OMar gets mad his question is stolen
** Different things, helping people, doing good deeds, solving problems
* Do you have a favorite 3D program autocad, sketch-up, blender?
** I know autocad but it could be fun to expand my knowledge
* What could you contribute to the Synhak community
** time, mechanical knowledge
* Favorite project that your found rewarding?
** Building my last computer
* what'd you put in it[the computer]
**...parts
* What do you most want to learn?
** software and programming
*** what's your end goal in programming
I don't have one yet, just explore
* voting commences and airing of grievences
* Torrie: Chris has been here for a number of weeks(months?)
** Gets stuff done, overlaps skills with Devin.
* Questions about whether discussion is s'posed to be here
* Alex give positive feedback
Chris's membership status: Approved
SynHak membership: 21, 2 pending
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank: 2785.95 in combined accounts
** Less than 1029 in uncollected dues
*** The Dues Fairy will be visiting you
* 8259.99 in $, things,
* 2785 in Liabilities
* More details available in financial report compiled by the acting treasurer
* March information missing, BFG will clarify
== Proposals ==
* Beth Munyan - wants a key to: assist in open hours, and work on young
aristotles, aid in maintaining donations
** Motion carries
** on receipt of $25 keys will be dispensed
* Torrie wants to raise base member dues to $40/month to increase funds to
SynHak
** Really up to board but community input can sway votes
** More $$ == more tools and better looking space
** Potential for funding personal projects or subsidize improvements to the
space
*** Other communities do this and it'd be cool
** Torrie will produce a budget to describe her vision and justify the added
expense
== Discussion Items ==
* If member dues could be increased even by $5/month our income greatly
increases
** Spiff dues payment has been made a bit more friendly.
** Auto-payment implemented
** Will be deployed by opening day
___
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Discuss@synhak.org
https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-12-24
Guten Tag, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2013-12-24 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-12-24. I've also included them in this
mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2013-12-24
|venue=21 West North
|next=Meetings/2013-12-31
|previous=Meetings/2013-12-17
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Torrie Fischer
* '''Moderator:''' Andrew Leitholf
== Introduction and Names ==
* Torrie - Turns a quarter of a century old
* Devin - Don't builds things
* Chris - The Mechanic
* Andrew - Dresses to impress
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
* Devin has lease in hand finally
** Board will look over it and sign by the 1st
** Torrie confers Devin with her power of proxy for signing
* Most Treasurer stuff is back in our hands
** includes: Dwolla, Stripe, Square, Google Checkout
** Transferred $1330.00 into Torrie's checking for paying rent, and TWC bill
** Rent was paid today for december and january
** TWC bill was also paid
** We also owe $1k for insurance, Torrie owes $1k, she'll make it happen
** Still don't have the cash box
** Almost everything in gnucash is up to date
** Bank statements from January 2013 to November 2013, she'll reconcile all
that stuff in SF
** treasu...@synhak.org was redirected to sysad...@synhak.org for recovery
purposes until an interim treasurer is set
* Devin sez: Its Torrie's Birthday (aka christmas eve)
== Membership ==
* Andrew sez: Matt Wenger and Mathew Stevic have their forms in, but they still
need an interview date. Please email secret...@synhak.org.
** James Brosnohan(sp?) has applied for membership
*** Needs one more sponsorship, please let secretary know
*** Current sponsor is Torrie Fischer
** Chris Neer has applied for membership
*** Sponsors are Torrie Fischer and Devin Wolfe
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank: $1991.56
** Prior to transfer: $3321.56
== Proposals ==
* None because holidays.
== Discussion Items ==
Nope. Happy freakin' holidays.
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[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-12-17
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2013-12-17 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-12-17. I've also included them in this
mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2013-12-17
|venue=21 West North
|next=Meetings/2013-12-24
|previous=Meetings/2013-12-10
}}
This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
[[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If you
would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
propos...@synhak.org, or bring it up at a meeting.
= Instructions =
* Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are new people
present.
* '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
* Pick a moderator and note-taker
== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
* Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
* Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate time.
* Tell treasu...@synhak.org and secret...@synhak.org if there are new members.
If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to email them.
== Moderator ==
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* Speak minimally yourself
* Keep the meeting moving
* Handle the membership voting process
* Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as the
template may occasionally change without warning.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-12-10
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 05:59:34 Andrew Buczko wrote: It would be nice to if Synhak could sell the processor out of the water damaged IBM (provided it works) for $30, BAM! Thats a new roll of filament for the 3D printer Ok, but you will be working for free (just keep that in perspective), also I think a roll of filament is $45, The supplies for SYNHAK are supposed to come from the membership fees. Well, the member ship fees should sustain the space and all it's expenses. hehe should, Yes members are pulling cash out of their own pockets to help sustain the space until it really gets off it's feet. Eh, not really. We haven't figured out what to do with our extra money beyond monthly expenses. That is changing soon though... In general, I've just asked people to kick back a few bucks or something for any filament they've used on the printer. I might be wrong, but I think I'm the largest consumer of PLA for the prusa. Selling excess stuff from the space is a great idea I just don't want it to become a second job for those doing it. Everyone should meet up at the space, we can go over ways of selling and selling tips, plus we can work with the donations policy (if it's ready by then). There is defiantly allot of experience to go around. I'm sure we can find a selling solution thats easy On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Joshua Csepegi joshcsep...@gmail.comwrote: Ok I will wait On Dec 11, 2013 2:58 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote: Some of them meet those specs. I want to pick one up for use but have been holding off until so!e consensus is formed about what to do with them --- Original Message --- From: Joshua Csepegi joshcsep...@gmail.com Sent: December 11, 2013 2:53 PM To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-12-10 I'm looking to make a media server something i may be able to ftp into to store some videos of other Mechanical proJects I'm worKing on. like a how to server. I need a pc laptop or otherwise that is 2ghz dual core or core duo i have a 2.5 sata hdd . These laptops i have been hearing so much about do they meet these specs? Sorry if this it's the wrong place just responding to e mail On Dec 11, 2013 1:57 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Having one or two people have to vote on what to do with donations... I wouldn't call it a vote, its more of a sorting task than a decision task. For example, someone donates a broken welder. Devin pokes at it with a stick until he magically finds that the piece to fix the other broken welder we've had. Welder gets fixed, the donated piece is then placed back in the donations pile. Result is: Welder access is restored to everyone (who has gone through proper safety training) and the broken donated piece is still available to those who want to use it in a project. It arrived broken, was recycled to repair the infrastructure, its still broken and now available to anyone that can hack it. A bunch of 4 year old cisco switches arrives, Craig and Chris go through them, half are working. Synhak Inc. only needs one to complete the networking infrastructure for the PBX project, another is kept as a spare, the rest are placed back in the hack pile. One gets fixed and then is placed on craigslist for sale to fund replacements for the consumables used to make a new workbench in someone else's project. There's a big picture here that can be circular. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:43 AM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree with this though we would need more maintainers. Having one or two people have to vote on what to do with donations is kind of limited. In all honesty when something gets dropped off we should take a picture of it and email it to memb...@synhak.org to discuss what to do with it. We should get a proposal together for the next meeting. On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:30 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: I 2nd the idea Omar has presented. It seems fair and allows the space to meet its needs so it can complete its mission. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.comwrote: I couldn't be at the meeting due to a school event with my daughter, my thoughts on a donation process: A quick self-help form for donations should be filled out when dropping off materials. It should ask things like * Would you like a receipt for tax purposes? ** If yes, send email to treasurer/secretary/appropriate maintainer with contact info * Is there an intended purpose for this donation or is it a free for all? * Would you like more info about Synhak and what we do? * *Legal Disclaimer about what donating means, i.e. you lose property rights to the materials donated, it becomes property of Synhak Inc
[SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-12-10
Howdy, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2013-12-10 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-12-10. I've also included them in this
mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2013-12-10
|venue=21 West North
|next=Meetings/2013-12-17
|previous=Meetings/2013-12-3
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Steve R.
* '''Moderator:''' Devin Wolfe
== Introduction and Names ==
* Mike - Tech support
* Lee - Got EE from UofA
* Becca - Makes cakes
* Jimmy - Not a member, brother and dad told him about SYNHAK
* Garrett - make steam punk stuff
* Philip - Starting second project, a rear wheel bike rack
* Andy - Mine bitcoins
* Craig - Make phones
* Torrie - Start selling robots
* Steve - taking notes
* Devin - build toy boxes/bench combo
== Announcements ==
* Andy - Made a new fundraising box
** Devin - Add labels for sepcific donations
* Torrie - Longest time talking about making robots, talked to some ** people
at office space co-working about selling 3 RGB LED's if
** enough were made for ambient lighting in architecture
** Mike - Self contained? Torrie - No, requires power supply
* Andy bought tables, and sewing room has a nice table, Torrie added **
adhesive tape measure
* Devin - 1000' CAT5e cable, and a bunch of shrink tubing
* Lee - this summer purchade a nice miller tig welder, willing to put ** on a
class, but need to purchase own consumables. Aluminum is not ** hard to learn
if never done before
* Philip - May have access to 10 -14 fully functioning Desktop ** computers
with keyboards and mouse, with Windows XP 32bit. If ** SYNHAK can use them we
get first shot otherwise will be donated to ** other non-profits, Dell or HP.
Devin/Torrie - Specs will be a ** deciding factor. Philip - get back when more
info is avaliable,
** though have legitimate COA for Windows XP 32bit
* Devin - for those interested in Power wheels racing series 10 ** batteries
and a smoke machine in the space now
* Craig - have a phone system in the works, should be up an running in ** a
week. New phone number and will be getting phones to spread ** around the
space, will have 911 which is registered to the site, ** and voice mail. Server
room redone to support it. Devin - can call ** to see how long someone will be
at the space if you wanted to come ** in outside open hours if not a member.
* Torrie - Added last week thursday maybe, new mailing lists for the ** space.
created them for specific channels of discussion, 3 new
** lists.
*
** noc - network operations center, to discuss IT issues in the space, ** ie
problems with internet or linux system admin.
*
** speaks-beureau - for speakers beureau information and discussion. ** Whole
bunch of documentation
*
** frag - talking about monthly lan party and gaming discussion, more ** social
*
** email noc to add mailing lists, and someone will get to it, and it ** is
updated on the wiki page
* Devin - starting a collection of tools that are surplus to give to ** CANHAX
or hartville hackerspace. If anyone has any extra tools to ** donate please do,
to help them get started.
* Beth - Becca and Beth started an Etsy to sell products.
== Membership ==
* Mike Griesacker
**Sponsors: Omar and Devin
** Reason: Want to learn, make stuff, and collaborate. Interests are
**Arduino, Raspberry Pi, 3d printing
* Devin - favorite beer? Yuengling
* Torrie - What projects do you want to work on? Make either remote **
arduino's or raspberry pi sensors to communicate via e-mail
* Torrie - What can SYN/HAK do for you? Provide a forum to build and **
develope.
* Devin - What can you do for SYN/HAK? Education classes maybe, not ** sure yet
* Andy - What industry do you work in? Telecomunications. Andy - Ever ** heard
of electrodata? Not sure maybe tested a meter
* Garrett - was it through the NAVY? No.
* Lee - Are you a serial murderer? No.
* Steve - Do you like chinese food? Yes.
* Lee - Are you a US Citizen? Yes.
*
* Has been approved for membership. YAY!!
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank: $3,127.55
* Savings: $400.32
* Cash: $233.43
* Money from element 14 will soon be transfered to bank.
== Proposals ==
* NONE
== Discussion Items ==
* Devin - Philip brought it up. No specific donation policy. The way ** it has
been is maintainers grab it first to sort. Can always use **more stuff.
*
** Torrie - Understanding is a guest went to the pile, grabbed a **recent
donation laptop, a member grabbed it from said person and **took the laptop for
SYNHAK with the intent of turning it into a **working laptop for the space.
Problem - person found it in community ** resource for personal project.
Concept of things in pile have ** priority for SYNHAK.
** If you see something in the pile it should be used for anything and **by
anyone member or not.
*
* Devin - differs, if donated to SYNHAK, should go to SYNHAK first to **
improve the space. Was just laid there
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-12-10
Any process proposed should include the line, As per Synhak Inc's Mission
Statement, no donation shall be earmarked 'member use only' as this would
not be excellent to non-members.
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:43 AM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote:
I agree with this though we would need more maintainers. Having one or
two people have to vote on what to do with donations is kind of limited.
In all honesty when something gets dropped off we should take a picture of
it and email it to memb...@synhak.org to discuss what to do with it. We
should get a proposal together for the next meeting.
On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:30 AM, Justin Herman
just...@gmail.com wrote:
I 2nd the idea Omar has presented. It seems fair and allows the space to
meet its needs so it can complete its mission.
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
I couldn't be at the meeting due to a school event with my daughter, my
thoughts on a donation process:
A quick self-help form for donations should be filled out when dropping
off materials. It should ask things like
* Would you like a receipt for tax purposes?
** If yes, send email to treasurer/secretary/appropriate maintainer with
contact info
* Is there an intended purpose for this donation or is it a free for all?
* Would you like more info about Synhak and what we do?
* *Legal Disclaimer about what donating means, i.e. you lose property
rights to the materials donated, it becomes property of Synhak Inc. or
public domain. It may be reduced reused recycled blown up for laughs, etc.*
*IF* the donation is being given specifically to Synhak Inc. then it
should be off-limits to everyone (member and non-member alike) for a finite
reasonable period of time, (48 hours? 1 Week?) until the appropriate
maintainer (i.e. Devin for workshop related materials, Alex or Craig for
computers, Chris or Craig for server/networking) can look at it and
determine if its salvageable, can be integrated in the infrastructure
available to everyone, or if there is just too much excess of that type be
sold to help close gaps in the budget. Once the time period elapses or the
maintainer has sorted through the donation, its released for everyone
(member and non-member alike). If we just leave everything that makes its
way to space in an open bin, it will quickly become a free for all mad dash
to see who can get to it first.
This doesn't require a change in powers (the maintainer is doing what they
said they would do, maintain), its a fair process that doesn't single any
one group out. It addresses the needs of both the infrastructure and the
general public. Too many times I've seen people pull money out their own
pockets to pay for heating fuel at the space, a trunk line for the PBX
system, consumable materials, etc. There is enough stuff that makes its way
to Synhak now that we can both get raw material for projects and give
Synhak Inc. extra petty cash to use things that benefit everybody. It would
be nice to if Synhak could sell the processor out of the water damaged IBM
(provided it works) for $30, BAM! Thats a new roll of filament for the 3D
printer, or take half of the working notebooks and BAM! $300 for heating
fuel, wood, fixing the welder, PBX trunk line or a used managed switch so
we can create VLANs, half of the remaining can replace old infrastructure
like the 12 year old computers still chugging along trying to keep up, or
the 7 year old 3D printer computer trying to keep up with 3D slicing and
design. Things that benefit everyone. Or maybe, just maybe, put that into a
moving fund for getting into a larger space like we've been talking about
doing. Space is cluttered and we need money for a bigger place? Why not
craigslist some stuff instead of junking it away! I wanted to do that, I
was trying to make that happen for us as part of the do-acracy, it seems as
though I just ended up pissing off everyone around me with good intentions.
Those are my two cents, I don't really care if anyone reads this or not or
takes it seriously. You guys know where to find me if I'm needed.
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Howdy, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2013-12-10 and that the minutes
are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-12-10. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2013-12-10
|venue=21 West North
|next=Meetings/2013-12-17
|previous=Meetings/2013-12-3
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Steve R.
* '''Moderator:''' Devin Wolfe
== Introduction and Names ==
* Mike - Tech support
* Lee - Got EE from UofA
* Becca - Makes cakes
* Jimmy - Not a member, brother and dad told him about SYNHAK
* Garrett - make steam punk stuff
* Philip - Starting second project, a rear wheel bike rack
* Andy - Mine bitcoins
* Craig - Make phones
*
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-12-10
Any process proposed should include the line, As per Synhak Inc's Mission
Statement, no donation shall be earmarked 'member use only' as this would
not be excellent to non-members.
~Agreed
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
Any process proposed should include the line, As per Synhak Inc's Mission
Statement, no donation shall be earmarked 'member use only' as this would
not be excellent to non-members.
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:43 AM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote:
I agree with this though we would need more maintainers. Having one or
two people have to vote on what to do with donations is kind of limited.
In all honesty when something gets dropped off we should take a picture of
it and email it to memb...@synhak.org to discuss what to do with it. We
should get a proposal together for the next meeting.
On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:30 AM, Justin Herman
just...@gmail.com wrote:
I 2nd the idea Omar has presented. It seems fair and allows the space
to meet its needs so it can complete its mission.
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
I couldn't be at the meeting due to a school event with my daughter, my
thoughts on a donation process:
A quick self-help form for donations should be filled out when dropping
off materials. It should ask things like
* Would you like a receipt for tax purposes?
** If yes, send email to treasurer/secretary/appropriate maintainer with
contact info
* Is there an intended purpose for this donation or is it a free for all?
* Would you like more info about Synhak and what we do?
* *Legal Disclaimer about what donating means, i.e. you lose property
rights to the materials donated, it becomes property of Synhak Inc. or
public domain. It may be reduced reused recycled blown up for laughs, etc.*
*IF* the donation is being given specifically to Synhak Inc. then it
should be off-limits to everyone (member and non-member alike) for a finite
reasonable period of time, (48 hours? 1 Week?) until the appropriate
maintainer (i.e. Devin for workshop related materials, Alex or Craig for
computers, Chris or Craig for server/networking) can look at it and
determine if its salvageable, can be integrated in the infrastructure
available to everyone, or if there is just too much excess of that type be
sold to help close gaps in the budget. Once the time period elapses or the
maintainer has sorted through the donation, its released for everyone
(member and non-member alike). If we just leave everything that makes its
way to space in an open bin, it will quickly become a free for all mad dash
to see who can get to it first.
This doesn't require a change in powers (the maintainer is doing what
they said they would do, maintain), its a fair process that doesn't single
any one group out. It addresses the needs of both the infrastructure and
the general public. Too many times I've seen people pull money out their
own pockets to pay for heating fuel at the space, a trunk line for the PBX
system, consumable materials, etc. There is enough stuff that makes its way
to Synhak now that we can both get raw material for projects and give
Synhak Inc. extra petty cash to use things that benefit everybody. It would
be nice to if Synhak could sell the processor out of the water damaged IBM
(provided it works) for $30, BAM! Thats a new roll of filament for the 3D
printer, or take half of the working notebooks and BAM! $300 for heating
fuel, wood, fixing the welder, PBX trunk line or a used managed switch so
we can create VLANs, half of the remaining can replace old infrastructure
like the 12 year old computers still chugging along trying to keep up, or
the 7 year old 3D printer computer trying to keep up with 3D slicing and
design. Things that benefit everyone. Or maybe, just maybe, put that into a
moving fund for getting into a larger space like we've been talking about
doing. Space is cluttered and we need money for a bigger place? Why not
craigslist some stuff instead of junking it away! I wanted to do that, I
was trying to make that happen for us as part of the do-acracy, it seems as
though I just ended up pissing off everyone around me with good intentions.
Those are my two cents, I don't really care if anyone reads this or not or
takes it seriously. You guys know where to find me if I'm needed.
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Howdy, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2013-12-10 and that the minutes
are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-12-10. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2013-12-10
|venue=21 West North
|next=Meetings/2013-12-17
|previous=Meetings/2013-12-3
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Steve R.
* '''Moderator:''' Devin Wolfe
== Introduction and Names ==
* Mike -
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-12-10
Having one or two people have to vote on what to do with donations... I wouldn't call it a vote, its more of a sorting task than a decision task. For example, someone donates a broken welder. Devin pokes at it with a stick until he magically finds that the piece to fix the other broken welder we've had. Welder gets fixed, the donated piece is then placed back in the donations pile. Result is: Welder access is restored to everyone (who has gone through proper safety training) and the broken donated piece is still available to those who want to use it in a project. It arrived broken, was recycled to repair the infrastructure, its still broken and now available to anyone that can hack it. A bunch of 4 year old cisco switches arrives, Craig and Chris go through them, half are working. Synhak Inc. only needs one to complete the networking infrastructure for the PBX project, another is kept as a spare, the rest are placed back in the hack pile. One gets fixed and then is placed on craigslist for sale to fund replacements for the consumables used to make a new workbench in someone else's project. There's a big picture here that can be circular. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:43 AM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree with this though we would need more maintainers. Having one or two people have to vote on what to do with donations is kind of limited. In all honesty when something gets dropped off we should take a picture of it and email it to memb...@synhak.org to discuss what to do with it. We should get a proposal together for the next meeting. On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:30 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: I 2nd the idea Omar has presented. It seems fair and allows the space to meet its needs so it can complete its mission. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I couldn't be at the meeting due to a school event with my daughter, my thoughts on a donation process: A quick self-help form for donations should be filled out when dropping off materials. It should ask things like * Would you like a receipt for tax purposes? ** If yes, send email to treasurer/secretary/appropriate maintainer with contact info * Is there an intended purpose for this donation or is it a free for all? * Would you like more info about Synhak and what we do? * *Legal Disclaimer about what donating means, i.e. you lose property rights to the materials donated, it becomes property of Synhak Inc. or public domain. It may be reduced reused recycled blown up for laughs, etc.* *IF* the donation is being given specifically to Synhak Inc. then it should be off-limits to everyone (member and non-member alike) for a finite reasonable period of time, (48 hours? 1 Week?) until the appropriate maintainer (i.e. Devin for workshop related materials, Alex or Craig for computers, Chris or Craig for server/networking) can look at it and determine if its salvageable, can be integrated in the infrastructure available to everyone, or if there is just too much excess of that type be sold to help close gaps in the budget. Once the time period elapses or the maintainer has sorted through the donation, its released for everyone (member and non-member alike). If we just leave everything that makes its way to space in an open bin, it will quickly become a free for all mad dash to see who can get to it first. This doesn't require a change in powers (the maintainer is doing what they said they would do, maintain), its a fair process that doesn't single any one group out. It addresses the needs of both the infrastructure and the general public. Too many times I've seen people pull money out their own pockets to pay for heating fuel at the space, a trunk line for the PBX system, consumable materials, etc. There is enough stuff that makes its way to Synhak now that we can both get raw material for projects and give Synhak Inc. extra petty cash to use things that benefit everybody. It would be nice to if Synhak could sell the processor out of the water damaged IBM (provided it works) for $30, BAM! Thats a new roll of filament for the 3D printer, or take half of the working notebooks and BAM! $300 for heating fuel, wood, fixing the welder, PBX trunk line or a used managed switch so we can create VLANs, half of the remaining can replace old infrastructure like the 12 year old computers still chugging along trying to keep up, or the 7 year old 3D printer computer trying to keep up with 3D slicing and design. Things that benefit everyone. Or maybe, just maybe, put that into a moving fund for getting into a larger space like we've been talking about doing. Space is cluttered and we need money for a bigger place? Why not craigslist some stuff instead of junking it away! I wanted to do that, I was trying to make that happen for us as part of the do-acracy, it seems as though I just ended up pissing off everyone around me with good intentions.
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-12-10
I'm looking to make a media server something i may be able to ftp into to store some videos of other Mechanical proJects I'm worKing on. like a how to server. I need a pc laptop or otherwise that is 2ghz dual core or core duo i have a 2.5 sata hdd . These laptops i have been hearing so much about do they meet these specs? Sorry if this it's the wrong place just responding to e mail On Dec 11, 2013 1:57 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Having one or two people have to vote on what to do with donations... I wouldn't call it a vote, its more of a sorting task than a decision task. For example, someone donates a broken welder. Devin pokes at it with a stick until he magically finds that the piece to fix the other broken welder we've had. Welder gets fixed, the donated piece is then placed back in the donations pile. Result is: Welder access is restored to everyone (who has gone through proper safety training) and the broken donated piece is still available to those who want to use it in a project. It arrived broken, was recycled to repair the infrastructure, its still broken and now available to anyone that can hack it. A bunch of 4 year old cisco switches arrives, Craig and Chris go through them, half are working. Synhak Inc. only needs one to complete the networking infrastructure for the PBX project, another is kept as a spare, the rest are placed back in the hack pile. One gets fixed and then is placed on craigslist for sale to fund replacements for the consumables used to make a new workbench in someone else's project. There's a big picture here that can be circular. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:43 AM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree with this though we would need more maintainers. Having one or two people have to vote on what to do with donations is kind of limited. In all honesty when something gets dropped off we should take a picture of it and email it to memb...@synhak.org to discuss what to do with it. We should get a proposal together for the next meeting. On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:30 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: I 2nd the idea Omar has presented. It seems fair and allows the space to meet its needs so it can complete its mission. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I couldn't be at the meeting due to a school event with my daughter, my thoughts on a donation process: A quick self-help form for donations should be filled out when dropping off materials. It should ask things like * Would you like a receipt for tax purposes? ** If yes, send email to treasurer/secretary/appropriate maintainer with contact info * Is there an intended purpose for this donation or is it a free for all? * Would you like more info about Synhak and what we do? * *Legal Disclaimer about what donating means, i.e. you lose property rights to the materials donated, it becomes property of Synhak Inc. or public domain. It may be reduced reused recycled blown up for laughs, etc.* *IF* the donation is being given specifically to Synhak Inc. then it should be off-limits to everyone (member and non-member alike) for a finite reasonable period of time, (48 hours? 1 Week?) until the appropriate maintainer (i.e. Devin for workshop related materials, Alex or Craig for computers, Chris or Craig for server/networking) can look at it and determine if its salvageable, can be integrated in the infrastructure available to everyone, or if there is just too much excess of that type be sold to help close gaps in the budget. Once the time period elapses or the maintainer has sorted through the donation, its released for everyone (member and non-member alike). If we just leave everything that makes its way to space in an open bin, it will quickly become a free for all mad dash to see who can get to it first. This doesn't require a change in powers (the maintainer is doing what they said they would do, maintain), its a fair process that doesn't single any one group out. It addresses the needs of both the infrastructure and the general public. Too many times I've seen people pull money out their own pockets to pay for heating fuel at the space, a trunk line for the PBX system, consumable materials, etc. There is enough stuff that makes its way to Synhak now that we can both get raw material for projects and give Synhak Inc. extra petty cash to use things that benefit everybody. It would be nice to if Synhak could sell the processor out of the water damaged IBM (provided it works) for $30, BAM! Thats a new roll of filament for the 3D printer, or take half of the working notebooks and BAM! $300 for heating fuel, wood, fixing the welder, PBX trunk line or a used managed switch so we can create VLANs, half of the remaining can replace old infrastructure like the 12 year old computers still chugging along trying to keep up, or the 7 year old 3D printer computer trying to keep up with 3D
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-12-10
Some of them meet those specs. I want to pick one up for use but have been holding off until so!e consensus is formed about what to do with them --- Original Message --- From: Joshua Csepegi joshcsep...@gmail.com Sent: December 11, 2013 2:53 PM To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-12-10 I'm looking to make a media server something i may be able to ftp into to store some videos of other Mechanical proJects I'm worKing on. like a how to server. I need a pc laptop or otherwise that is 2ghz dual core or core duo i have a 2.5 sata hdd . These laptops i have been hearing so much about do they meet these specs? Sorry if this it's the wrong place just responding to e mail On Dec 11, 2013 1:57 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Having one or two people have to vote on what to do with donations... I wouldn't call it a vote, its more of a sorting task than a decision task. For example, someone donates a broken welder. Devin pokes at it with a stick until he magically finds that the piece to fix the other broken welder we've had. Welder gets fixed, the donated piece is then placed back in the donations pile. Result is: Welder access is restored to everyone (who has gone through proper safety training) and the broken donated piece is still available to those who want to use it in a project. It arrived broken, was recycled to repair the infrastructure, its still broken and now available to anyone that can hack it. A bunch of 4 year old cisco switches arrives, Craig and Chris go through them, half are working. Synhak Inc. only needs one to complete the networking infrastructure for the PBX project, another is kept as a spare, the rest are placed back in the hack pile. One gets fixed and then is placed on craigslist for sale to fund replacements for the consumables used to make a new workbench in someone else's project. There's a big picture here that can be circular. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:43 AM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree with this though we would need more maintainers. Having one or two people have to vote on what to do with donations is kind of limited. In all honesty when something gets dropped off we should take a picture of it and email it to memb...@synhak.org to discuss what to do with it. We should get a proposal together for the next meeting. On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:30 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: I 2nd the idea Omar has presented. It seems fair and allows the space to meet its needs so it can complete its mission. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I couldn't be at the meeting due to a school event with my daughter, my thoughts on a donation process: A quick self-help form for donations should be filled out when dropping off materials. It should ask things like * Would you like a receipt for tax purposes? ** If yes, send email to treasurer/secretary/appropriate maintainer with contact info * Is there an intended purpose for this donation or is it a free for all? * Would you like more info about Synhak and what we do? * *Legal Disclaimer about what donating means, i.e. you lose property rights to the materials donated, it becomes property of Synhak Inc. or public domain. It may be reduced reused recycled blown up for laughs, etc.* *IF* the donation is being given specifically to Synhak Inc. then it should be off-limits to everyone (member and non-member alike) for a finite reasonable period of time, (48 hours? 1 Week?) until the appropriate maintainer (i.e. Devin for workshop related materials, Alex or Craig for computers, Chris or Craig for server/networking) can look at it and determine if its salvageable, can be integrated in the infrastructure available to everyone, or if there is just too much excess of that type be sold to help close gaps in the budget. Once the time period elapses or the maintainer has sorted through the donation, its released for everyone (member and non-member alike). If we just leave everything that makes its way to space in an open bin, it will quickly become a free for all mad dash to see who can get to it first. This doesn't require a change in powers (the maintainer is doing what they said they would do, maintain), its a fair process that doesn't single any one group out. It addresses the needs of both the infrastructure and the general public. Too many times I've seen people pull money out their own pockets to pay for heating fuel at the space, a trunk line for the PBX system, consumable materials, etc. There is enough stuff that makes its way to Synhak now that we can both get raw material for projects and give Synhak Inc. extra petty cash to use things that benefit everybody. It would be nice to if Synhak could sell the processor out of the water damaged IBM (provided it works) for $30, BAM! Thats a new roll of filament for the 3D
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-11-26
That and who sponsored who. I believe Chris and Torrie sponsored me lol.
-Steve
--- Original Message ---
From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net
Sent: November 30, 2013 2:20 AM
To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-11-26
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 08:26:08 Phong wrote:
Namaste, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2013-11-26 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-11-26. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2013-11-26
|venue=21 West North
|next=Meetings/2013-12-3
|previous=Meetings/2013-11-19
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' G
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if
anyone new is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want
to make things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to
help others learn new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists
through and depends on membership dues, donations, and the hard work
of individuals such as ourselves. Our code of conduct is Be excellent
to each other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Torrie - Gets pierced
* Andrew - Tired of cleaning snow of his car
* Chris - Never gets tired of cleaning snow off his car
* Tim Seely - Coach robotics
* Mike - Likes to Ski
* Becca - Make santa cakes for christmas
* Bethany - Plays with fire
* Steve - Play old skool video games
* Lea - Knits scarf - first time - heared about synhak in newspaper
* David - Fiddle around with Software
* Andy - Works on electronics
* Andy - Tinkers with everything; mom told him about synhak!
* Justin - Plays with robots and automation
* Ben - Likes to learn; learned about us from Drew
* Alex - Does IT support
* David - Invited by Tim Seely; physician assistant - sees nuts and
bolts
* Devin - Machinist
* Philip - Sells stuff online; interests in technology; wants to
convert nook to something; read about synhak in his email
* G - Write a software for a living
* Omar - Thinks wishfully
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
* Devin - Power wheels racing:
** Tig load of aluminum
** Meeting after the frame is constructed
* Andy - Mythbusters are coming in town
** wants to get a booth
** Andrew - protolab - approached the organizers and missed their
boat?
* Torrie - protolab wants to use spiff. good luck!
* Devin - Hartville hackerspace - We can potentially benefit them
** They are talking about it
** Wishes we were like Hartville .. at their price!
* G - Geauga county makerspace (homestead style). Have a meetup.com
account to plan the makerspace. Damon Ramsey.
* Devin - property available around Summit street - a little high in
price - vacant for 2 years.. agent is owner 3000sq ft ground floor
* G - Receives call from Kevin. 12/3 6pm we meet at floor 8 in his
office to see the space he has.
* Omar - CompTIA partner -
*benefits
** able to get student discounts on testing
** instructors get free testing - can become CompTIA+ testing
** have to be able to buy $500 vouchers in one year (not required,
only for instructor testing and promo materials)
** 6 weeks is plenty time to get familiarised
* Phil brought us:
** ultrasonic cleaner
** commercial soldering machine
* Someone below got us:
** video equipment - cameras, video mixer, tripod and video stuff
* G got us (from Steve Smith at Sherwin Williams):
** 4 feet level
** Black and Decker non-functional miter saw
* Torrie - Stereo system replaces the turntable
** has better audio quality
** smaller uses less electrons
* Torrie - OpenSCAD class last week
** People enjoyed it
** Next week (Wed) is Devins class on shop safety; can get safety
trained! G will video tape as well
** Social media class at Office Space Coworking
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
* Steve
** Works with computers and stuff
** working on a game; plays them, builds them
** Beth: Who makes you happy?
*** Fresh installs of linux; Losing a game of Super Metroid
*** Looking forward to python class - Torrie
*** Chris: What can you add to synhak?
** Beth: fav beer; Yuengling
** Beth: fav takeout place: South plaza House of Hunan - its near
Marcs
** Andy: Profession?: IT field - getting CDL license.
** Torrie: Prog languages?: Assembly, Qbasic,
** Alex: Fav game of all time?: Megaman2
** Torrie: what are you
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-11-26
Suggestion -
Next time, use a conference mic and document the meeting.
The note taker can refer to the recording to make sure the minutes are
accurate and complete before posting them in an email or on the website.
PPP
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote:
That and who sponsored who. I believe Chris and Torrie sponsored me lol.
-Steve
--- Original Message ---
From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net
Sent: November 30, 2013 2:20 AM
To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-11-26
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 08:26:08 Phong wrote:
Namaste, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2013-11-26 and that the minutes
are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-11-26. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2013-11-26
|venue=21 West North
|next=Meetings/2013-12-3
|previous=Meetings/2013-11-19
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' G
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if
anyone new is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want
to make things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to
help others learn new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists
through and depends on membership dues, donations, and the hard work
of individuals such as ourselves. Our code of conduct is Be excellent
to each other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Torrie - Gets pierced
* Andrew - Tired of cleaning snow of his car
* Chris - Never gets tired of cleaning snow off his car
* Tim Seely - Coach robotics
* Mike - Likes to Ski
* Becca - Make santa cakes for christmas
* Bethany - Plays with fire
* Steve - Play old skool video games
* Lea - Knits scarf - first time - heared about synhak in newspaper
* David - Fiddle around with Software
* Andy - Works on electronics
* Andy - Tinkers with everything; mom told him about synhak!
* Justin - Plays with robots and automation
* Ben - Likes to learn; learned about us from Drew
* Alex - Does IT support
* David - Invited by Tim Seely; physician assistant - sees nuts and
bolts
* Devin - Machinist
* Philip - Sells stuff online; interests in technology; wants to
convert nook to something; read about synhak in his email
* G - Write a software for a living
* Omar - Thinks wishfully
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
* Devin - Power wheels racing:
** Tig load of aluminum
** Meeting after the frame is constructed
* Andy - Mythbusters are coming in town
** wants to get a booth
** Andrew - protolab - approached the organizers and missed their
boat?
* Torrie - protolab wants to use spiff. good luck!
* Devin - Hartville hackerspace - We can potentially benefit them
** They are talking about it
** Wishes we were like Hartville .. at their price!
* G - Geauga county makerspace (homestead style). Have a meetup.com
account to plan the makerspace. Damon Ramsey.
* Devin - property available around Summit street - a little high in
price - vacant for 2 years.. agent is owner 3000sq ft ground floor
* G - Receives call from Kevin. 12/3 6pm we meet at floor 8 in his
office to see the space he has.
* Omar - CompTIA partner -
*benefits
** able to get student discounts on testing
** instructors get free testing - can become CompTIA+ testing
** have to be able to buy $500 vouchers in one year (not required,
only for instructor testing and promo materials)
** 6 weeks is plenty time to get familiarised
* Phil brought us:
** ultrasonic cleaner
** commercial soldering machine
* Someone below got us:
** video equipment - cameras, video mixer, tripod and video stuff
* G got us (from Steve Smith at Sherwin Williams):
** 4 feet level
** Black and Decker non-functional miter saw
* Torrie - Stereo system replaces the turntable
** has better audio quality
** smaller uses less electrons
* Torrie - OpenSCAD class last week
** People enjoyed it
** Next week (Wed) is Devins class on shop safety; can get safety
trained! G will video tape as well
** Social media class at Office Space Coworking
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
* Steve
** Works with computers and stuff
** working on a game; plays them, builds
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-11-26
According to this link...
https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
Student fees are $15 a month, not $25 as we discussed in the meeting.
-Beth
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote:
Suggestion -
Next time, use a conference mic and document the meeting.
The note taker can refer to the recording to make sure the minutes are
accurate and complete before posting them in an email or on the website.
PPP
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Steve Radonich IV
nesfr...@outlook.comwrote:
That and who sponsored who. I believe Chris and Torrie sponsored me lol.
-Steve
--- Original Message ---
From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net
Sent: November 30, 2013 2:20 AM
To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-11-26
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 08:26:08 Phong wrote:
Namaste, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2013-11-26 and that the
minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-11-26. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2013-11-26
|venue=21 West North
|next=Meetings/2013-12-3
|previous=Meetings/2013-11-19
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' G
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if
anyone new is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want
to make things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to
help others learn new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists
through and depends on membership dues, donations, and the hard work
of individuals such as ourselves. Our code of conduct is Be excellent
to each other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Torrie - Gets pierced
* Andrew - Tired of cleaning snow of his car
* Chris - Never gets tired of cleaning snow off his car
* Tim Seely - Coach robotics
* Mike - Likes to Ski
* Becca - Make santa cakes for christmas
* Bethany - Plays with fire
* Steve - Play old skool video games
* Lea - Knits scarf - first time - heared about synhak in newspaper
* David - Fiddle around with Software
* Andy - Works on electronics
* Andy - Tinkers with everything; mom told him about synhak!
* Justin - Plays with robots and automation
* Ben - Likes to learn; learned about us from Drew
* Alex - Does IT support
* David - Invited by Tim Seely; physician assistant - sees nuts and
bolts
* Devin - Machinist
* Philip - Sells stuff online; interests in technology; wants to
convert nook to something; read about synhak in his email
* G - Write a software for a living
* Omar - Thinks wishfully
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
* Devin - Power wheels racing:
** Tig load of aluminum
** Meeting after the frame is constructed
* Andy - Mythbusters are coming in town
** wants to get a booth
** Andrew - protolab - approached the organizers and missed their
boat?
* Torrie - protolab wants to use spiff. good luck!
* Devin - Hartville hackerspace - We can potentially benefit them
** They are talking about it
** Wishes we were like Hartville .. at their price!
* G - Geauga county makerspace (homestead style). Have a meetup.com
account to plan the makerspace. Damon Ramsey.
* Devin - property available around Summit street - a little high in
price - vacant for 2 years.. agent is owner 3000sq ft ground floor
* G - Receives call from Kevin. 12/3 6pm we meet at floor 8 in his
office to see the space he has.
* Omar - CompTIA partner -
*benefits
** able to get student discounts on testing
** instructors get free testing - can become CompTIA+ testing
** have to be able to buy $500 vouchers in one year (not required,
only for instructor testing and promo materials)
** 6 weeks is plenty time to get familiarised
* Phil brought us:
** ultrasonic cleaner
** commercial soldering machine
* Someone below got us:
** video equipment - cameras, video mixer, tripod and video stuff
* G got us (from Steve Smith at Sherwin Williams):
** 4 feet level
** Black and Decker non-functional miter saw
* Torrie - Stereo system replaces the turntable
** has better audio quality
** smaller uses less electrons
* Torrie - OpenSCAD class last week
** People enjoyed it
** Next week (Wed) is Devins class on shop safety; can get safety
trained! G will video tape as well
** Social media class at Office Space Coworking
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-11-26
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 08:26:08 Phong wrote:
Namaste, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2013-11-26 and that the minutes are
posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-11-26. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2013-11-26
|venue=21 West North
|next=Meetings/2013-12-3
|previous=Meetings/2013-11-19
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' G
* '''Moderator:''' Torrie
== Introduction and Names ==
* Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if
anyone new is present:
blockquoteSYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want
to make things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to
help others learn new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists
through and depends on membership dues, donations, and the hard work
of individuals such as ourselves. Our code of conduct is Be excellent
to each other./blockquote
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Torrie - Gets pierced
* Andrew - Tired of cleaning snow of his car
* Chris - Never gets tired of cleaning snow off his car
* Tim Seely - Coach robotics
* Mike - Likes to Ski
* Becca - Make santa cakes for christmas
* Bethany - Plays with fire
* Steve - Play old skool video games
* Lea - Knits scarf - first time - heared about synhak in newspaper
* David - Fiddle around with Software
* Andy - Works on electronics
* Andy - Tinkers with everything; mom told him about synhak!
* Justin - Plays with robots and automation
* Ben - Likes to learn; learned about us from Drew
* Alex - Does IT support
* David - Invited by Tim Seely; physician assistant - sees nuts and
bolts
* Devin - Machinist
* Philip - Sells stuff online; interests in technology; wants to
convert nook to something; read about synhak in his email
* G - Write a software for a living
* Omar - Thinks wishfully
== Announcements ==
* Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
* Any happenings that people should be aware of?
* Devin - Power wheels racing:
** Tig load of aluminum
** Meeting after the frame is constructed
* Andy - Mythbusters are coming in town
** wants to get a booth
** Andrew - protolab - approached the organizers and missed their
boat?
* Torrie - protolab wants to use spiff. good luck!
* Devin - Hartville hackerspace - We can potentially benefit them
** They are talking about it
** Wishes we were like Hartville .. at their price!
* G - Geauga county makerspace (homestead style). Have a meetup.com
account to plan the makerspace. Damon Ramsey.
* Devin - property available around Summit street - a little high in
price - vacant for 2 years.. agent is owner 3000sq ft ground floor
* G - Receives call from Kevin. 12/3 6pm we meet at floor 8 in his
office to see the space he has.
* Omar - CompTIA partner -
*benefits
** able to get student discounts on testing
** instructors get free testing - can become CompTIA+ testing
** have to be able to buy $500 vouchers in one year (not required,
only for instructor testing and promo materials)
** 6 weeks is plenty time to get familiarised
* Phil brought us:
** ultrasonic cleaner
** commercial soldering machine
* Someone below got us:
** video equipment - cameras, video mixer, tripod and video stuff
* G got us (from Steve Smith at Sherwin Williams):
** 4 feet level
** Black and Decker non-functional miter saw
* Torrie - Stereo system replaces the turntable
** has better audio quality
** smaller uses less electrons
* Torrie - OpenSCAD class last week
** People enjoyed it
** Next week (Wed) is Devins class on shop safety; can get safety
trained! G will video tape as well
** Social media class at Office Space Coworking
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
* Steve
** Works with computers and stuff
** working on a game; plays them, builds them
** Beth: Who makes you happy?
*** Fresh installs of linux; Losing a game of Super Metroid
*** Looking forward to python class - Torrie
*** Chris: What can you add to synhak?
** Beth: fav beer; Yuengling
** Beth: fav takeout place: South plaza House of Hunan - its near
Marcs
** Andy: Profession?: IT field - getting CDL license.
** Torrie: Prog languages?: Assembly, Qbasic,
** Alex: Fav game of all time?: Megaman2
** Torrie: what are you working on?: Working on a SNES based game that
is made in YCHR
**sponsored by omar and Andy B.
* David
** wants to be part of space because, i am a hacker from long time ago
** 1969 operated computer for Army!
** read cards
** It had
