Re: [Elecraft] [N1MM+] K4 Transmitter Alignment

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

wrong reflector

73, Pete N4ZR

On 5/24/2024 12:41 PM, n5xz via groups.io wrote:
My new K4D does not put out 100W when power is set that way. How do I 
align the transmitter output? I don't see it in the manual.


Allen N5XZ
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[Elecraft] N1MM and K3

[Josep via Elecraft]

Hi all,
I have been able to recover my stuck K3 at MCU LD with an old Serial to USB 
cable.I want to use it with my N1MM but find the transmmiting is not clean and 
sure it is due to the quality of that cable. Which one would you recommend to 
buy so my TXing will be clear and clean.? I know Elecraft has one, could 
someone send me the link so I can order the right one.?
Thnak you guys.



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[Elecraft] N1MM + winkeyer + K2

[Tom Ewing via Elecraft]

Is anyone in the group using this combination? I have a couple of config 
questions. 

Thanks in advance!

Tommy 
W0XXX


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Re: [Elecraft] [N1MM+] Code to Command DVK

[Jim McDonald]

Hi Pete,

It's in the N1MM documentation.

F1 CQ,{CATA1ASC SWT21;}
F2 Exch,{CATA1ASC SWT31;}
F3 TU,{CATA1ASC SWT35;}
F4 {MYCALL},{CATA1ASC SWT39:}

73,  Jim N7US

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Subject: [N1MM+] Code to Command DVK

I'm looking for some code that I can write into an N1MM macro that will trigger 
playing one of the 4 memories in a K3S.  I've looked in the programmer 
reference manual but I'm not finding any command to do that.

Any suggestions?


Pete Chamalian, W1RM
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[Elecraft] N1MM+ Logger CW reader and the K3S

[NJMike]

I'm considering trying the CW Reader available in N1MM+ Logger, even though
the K3S has that functionality.  My laptop is currently connected to the USB
port on the rig.  According to the K3S manual, that should handle all the
necessary communications between the laptop and the rig (I think).  

The N1MM documentation does not make reference to a USB connection, only to
using a line out port from the rig to an audio input on the laptop, in my
case that would be a combined microphone/headset jack.

Between the three CW reader engine options discussed in the N1MM
documentation, I think I would go with Fldigi.

I would appreciate any ideas/tips/comments, especially from anyone who has
specifically set up this Logger/rig combination.

As always, thanks in advance!
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM & KX2

[Brian Hunt]

Since there is no RTS or DTR line into the KX2 you can't send CW or PTT that 
way. If you use a WinKeyer or similar you should be set. You can also send CW 
using the KEY macro command but you have to edit the NIMM+ .mc files to do so. 
GL&73, 
Brian, K0DTJ

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> ANY ISSUES using them together
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[Elecraft] N1MM & KX2

[Robert 'RC' Conley]

ANY ISSUES using them together

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM+ logger

[Ted Bryant]

Try this:

<http://n1mmplus.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Supported+Radios=
N1MM+Logger+Documentation#K3_and_K3S>

73, Ted W4NZ


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Chandler
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:06 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM+ logger

Somewhere I read a "cheat sheet" page for setting up my K3S with N1MM+
Logger.  I'm installing N1MM+ on a new PC and can't find the cheat sheet
anymore.

Does this ring a bell with anyone?  Would anyone have a copy or a link they
could share?

73 de Chuck, WS1L

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[Elecraft] N1MM+ logger

[Chuck Chandler]

Somewhere I read a "cheat sheet" page for setting up my K3S with N1MM+
Logger.  I'm installing N1MM+ on a new PC and can't find the cheat sheet
anymore.

Does this ring a bell with anyone?  Would anyone have a copy or a link they
could share?

73 de Chuck, WS1L

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM+ & K3/K3s & Diversity

[Gary Smith]

Al, Dan & Rich,

Thanks guys, that indeed is the cause of 
the problem. I have an old hand injury 
that makes using the little finger on the 
left hand a challenge in the typing 
position. I started N1MM+, put the K3s in 
diversity and tapped the key and that 
dis-engaged it. Problem found so thank 
you.

I now have a further problem in that I do 
have SO1R checked off in N1MM and when I 
look at Config > Sub Receiver Always On, 
the line is greyed out and I can't select 
it.

Now that I know where the problem resides, 
I'll see if the N1MM reflector has an 
answer. If not, I'll find what the code is 
for the "`" and find what to write to 
create a scancode map for the keyboard in 
Win 10 to block that function. 

I have done that for years now with the 
caps lock key, I type an entry in the 
registry to only allow caps while the key 
is constantly depressed. That prevents me 
from looking up after typing an opus only 
to find it's mostly in caps & I had 
accidentally hit the caps lock key and now 
I have to re-type everything...

Thank you & 73,

Gary
KA1J



> From the N1MM+ documentation (Supported Radios page, K3/K3S section):
> 
> . The stereo (grave accent - ` key, at the left end of the number keys
> row on many keyboards) toggles Sub on and off. It is identical to
> pressing the SUB radio button. To leave SUB on all the time, select
> Config > Sub Receiver Always On
> 
> ..I f you have selected Diversity mode on the radio, toggling Sub off
> and on via ` or Alt+F12 will turn Diversity mode off
> 
> .. Logger preserves diversity reception on the K3 unless RX Focus
> changes to vfoB at which time the subRX will switch to vfoB (note that
> in diversity reception mode, both receivers are using VFO A, so full
> SO2V functionality is not available without leaving diversity mode)
> 
> To expand on this last point, if N1MM+ is in SO2V mode rather than
> SO1V, then any time the focus moves to the VFO B Entry window
> (including inadvertent mouse clicks, or pressing the Pause, backslash,
> Ctrl+right arrow or Alt+F10 keys), Diversity will be turned off. This
> might even be caused by RFI in some cases.
> 
> 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM+ & K3/K3s & Diversity

[Richard Ferch]

>From the N1MM+ documentation (Supported Radios page, K3/K3S section):

. The stereo (grave accent - ` key, at the left end of the number keys row
on many keyboards) toggles Sub on and off. It is identical to pressing the
SUB radio button. To leave SUB on all the time, select Config > Sub
Receiver Always On

..I f you have selected Diversity mode on the radio, toggling Sub off and
on via ` or Alt+F12 will turn Diversity mode off

.. Logger preserves diversity reception on the K3 unless RX Focus changes
to vfoB at which time the subRX will switch to vfoB (note that in diversity
reception mode, both receivers are using VFO A, so full SO2V functionality
is not available without leaving diversity mode)

To expand on this last point, if N1MM+ is in SO2V mode rather than SO1V,
then any time the focus moves to the VFO B Entry window (including
inadvertent mouse clicks, or pressing the Pause, backslash, Ctrl+right
arrow or Alt+F10 keys), Diversity will be turned off. This might even be
caused by RFI in some cases.

73,
Rich VE3KI
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[Elecraft] N1MM+ & K3/K3s & Diversity

[Dan Atchison via Elecraft]

I am willing to bet that while trying to hit the ESC key in N1MM+, you 
accidentally or also hit the ~ key immediately below the escape key.  
That will cause the symptom you described.


73,
Dan

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM+ & K3/K3s & Diversity

[Al Lorona]

That is purely an N1MM problem, Gary. The same thing happened to me a few 
times. It was annoying. I bet I could tell you exactly what button pushes 
caused it to do that, but I'd have to go think about it some.

By the way, the 3 dB loss at that frequency that you incur from the diversity 
receive setup is totally inconsequential. You do not give up any sensitivity 
whatsoever. In fact, it's probably desirable to have the ATT on all the time on 
160 anyway, in addition to any splitter loss. See a previous post I made 
concerning this very question: 
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/When-do-I-need-atten-or-preamp-td7616174.html#a7616249
 

R,

Al W6LX




From: Gary Smith <g...@ka1j.com>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:10 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM+ & K3/K3s & Diversity



I worked the ARRL 160 this last weekend, 

ran QRP. I had a couple technical problems 

that came up, one relates to the K3s. I'm 

asking here first if someone has  

experienced this.


I prefer running the K3s in Diversity in 

the contests. I find it is more helpful to 

take the -3 dB loss (or whatever it is) 

when using diversity than to hear louder 

when only using the one Rx. Diversity 

helps in the tough times to allow me to 

hear almost undecipherable details when 

the band condition collapses.


During the contest the K3s would slip out 

of diversity and leave the Rx at a 

previous point and I would also hear the 

VFO A frequency. It got confusing when 

this happened and no, I didn't bump the 

diversity button accidentally. I was using 

the Marker A & encoder on the P3 to 

navigate me through the signals, not the 

VFO A knob.


I never saw it happening, it would be a 

discovery when I would hearing a call I'd 

worked earlier while onto a new station to 

listen to and I'd see the diversity light 

was not flashing but the sub RX was still 

engaged. I never looked to see if it was 

the last station I worked or back farther.


The one possible time I might have noticed 

something happening was when I heard the 

the effect of listening to the VFO B knob 

turning on the crowded band while 

listening to a fixed signal on VFO A. I 

noticed the effect, looked at the K3s and 

sure enough the diversity had somehow 

unlocked. (What I have no idea of is if 

that sound was someone QSYing or my radio 

QSYing) This happened 5-6 times in the 

contest. It never has happened before that 

I remember.


Also using Win4K3Suite (good program) & 

K1EL's USB winkey at the same time with 

N1MM.


Any idea what might be happening and how 

to prevent it from doing this again?


Thanks & 73,


Gary

KA1J

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[Elecraft] N1MM+ & K3/K3s & Diversity

[Gary Smith]

I worked the ARRL 160 this last weekend, 
ran QRP. I had a couple technical problems 
that came up, one relates to the K3s. I'm 
asking here first if someone has  
experienced this.

I prefer running the K3s in Diversity in 
the contests. I find it is more helpful to 
take the -3 dB loss (or whatever it is) 
when using diversity than to hear louder 
when only using the one Rx. Diversity 
helps in the tough times to allow me to 
hear almost undecipherable details when 
the band condition collapses.

During the contest the K3s would slip out 
of diversity and leave the Rx at a 
previous point and I would also hear the 
VFO A frequency. It got confusing when 
this happened and no, I didn't bump the 
diversity button accidentally. I was using 
the Marker A & encoder on the P3 to 
navigate me through the signals, not the 
VFO A knob.

I never saw it happening, it would be a 
discovery when I would hearing a call I'd 
worked earlier while onto a new station to 
listen to and I'd see the diversity light 
was not flashing but the sub RX was still 
engaged. I never looked to see if it was 
the last station I worked or back farther.

The one possible time I might have noticed 
something happening was when I heard the 
the effect of listening to the VFO B knob 
turning on the crowded band while 
listening to a fixed signal on VFO A. I 
noticed the effect, looked at the K3s and 
sure enough the diversity had somehow 
unlocked. (What I have no idea of is if 
that sound was someone QSYing or my radio 
QSYing) This happened 5-6 times in the 
contest. It never has happened before that 
I remember.

Also using Win4K3Suite (good program) & 
K1EL's USB winkey at the same time with 
N1MM.

Any idea what might be happening and how 
to prevent it from doing this again?

Thanks & 73,

Gary
KA1J
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM KX2 and KX3 Issues

[Jim GM]

No I have it set to SO1V. I would really like to know what’s going on with N1MM 
program with the KX2 and 3 with this program.

Jim K9TF

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM KX2 and KX3 Issues

[Richard Ferch]

Your problem is obviously with N1MM+, not with your elecraft rigs. It would
have been more appropriate to post your message to the N1MMLoggerPlus
reflector.

Be that as it may, my guess would be that you are using an inappropriate
N1MM Logger.ini (configuration) file, namely one that has been configured
for a dual-receiver K3.

In the N1MM+ Config menu, make sure the Sub Receiver Always On menu item is
not checked. It appears as if you may have this option selected; if so,
that would be what is causing Dual RX to be turned on when you change bands.

In the Configurer, make sure the SO1V radio button is selected; I suspect
you may have SO2V selected; SO2V is not really appropriate for a KX2 or
KX3. Also, make sure that the selected radio type is Elecraft KX3, not
Elecraft K3.

N1MM+ does not send ATU commands to the radio as far as I am aware. I can
only guess that your configuration is such that K3 commands for the second
receiver are being sent, and that these are having some kind of side
effects on the KX2/KX3, possibly because the second receiver's Entry window
is starting up on a different band. Using an ini file that is configured
for the correct radio in SO1V mode should resolve this.

If you wish to use N1MM+ with more than one radio (not SO2R, just different
radios at different times), you should not try to use the same ini file for
all. N1MM+ has a way to use multiple ini files for this kind of situation.
This is described in the on-line documentation at <
http://n1mmplus.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Program+Installation+and+Setup=N1MM+Logger+Documentation#Multiple_ini_Files
>.

73,
Rich VE3KI
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM KX2 and KX3 Issues

[Bob N3MNT]

Are you using someone's config file? If so the commands for that
configuration may have been introduced that way.




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[Elecraft] N1MM KX2 and KX3 Issues

[Jim GM]

When I open N1MM when it opens it is in the S mode and when I switch to RUN 
mode the Dual RX propagates its self to all the bands. This is Annoying.

The ATU settings on all bands are completely changed when N1MM was opened. So 
this junk was also generated by N1MM. 

Both of these issue occur on the KX2 and KX3 when N1MM is opened.

I am guessing that what ever N1MM is generating is K3 commands from N1MM but I 
am not sure.


Jim K9TF

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[k.alexander]

Hopefully it will get nipped in the bud before it degenerates into another 
Linux vs Windows debate...
73,
Ken Alexander VE3HLS 


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: 
Mike va3mw <va...@portcredit.net> Date: 2016-07-10  08:21  (GMT-05:00) To: Guy 
Olinger K2AV <k2av@gmail.com> Cc: "Dauer, Edward" <eda...@law.du.edu>, 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net, a45wg <-unkno...@sy-edm.com> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 
N1MM Logger + 
Why is this discussion on the Elecraft reflector and not the N1MM reflector?  

Mike va3mw

> On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:33 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Visual Basic .NET and SQLite are the essentials.
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>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016, a45wg <-unkno...@sy-edm.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Guy,
>> Out of interest from a SW Developer point of View what is N1MM written in ?
>> 
>> Tim - A45WG
>> 
>> 
>> On 9 Jul 2016, at 18:38, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','k2av@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> They have stated that to create a parallel product for Mac platforms is
>> beyond their intentions and resources. Having had a few conversations, that
>> really does seem a fair and intelligent decision. For them, to keep from
>> wasting precious volunteer resources on keeping up with OS perturbations
>> not related to the product, their development platform and single chosen OS
>> need to be as stable as possibly can be. They do seem open to a tweak here
>> and there for problems served up **completely analyzed and solved** in the
>> run-it-on-a-windows-emulator world.
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Mike va3mw]

Why is this discussion on the Elecraft reflector and not the N1MM reflector?  

Mike va3mw

> On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:33 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV  wrote:
> 
> Visual Basic .NET and SQLite are the essentials.
> 
> 73, Guy K2AV
> 
>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016, a45wg <-unkno...@sy-edm.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Guy,
>> Out of interest from a SW Developer point of View what is N1MM written in ?
>> 
>> Tim - A45WG
>> 
>> 
>> On 9 Jul 2016, at 18:38, Guy Olinger K2AV > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> They have stated that to create a parallel product for Mac platforms is
>> beyond their intentions and resources. Having had a few conversations, that
>> really does seem a fair and intelligent decision. For them, to keep from
>> wasting precious volunteer resources on keeping up with OS perturbations
>> not related to the product, their development platform and single chosen OS
>> need to be as stable as possibly can be. They do seem open to a tweak here
>> and there for problems served up **completely analyzed and solved** in the
>> run-it-on-a-windows-emulator world.
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Bob Nielsen]

I disagree somewhat.  Whenever I have connected new hardware to my Macs, 
the drivers were already there and I didn't need to find and install 
them as I often have needed to to on Windows.  I realize this won't 
always be the case but it is nice when things work this way.


The difficulties with Linux can vary considerably depending on the 
distribution used and it takes some degree of experience to solve these 
difficulties when they are encountered but at least you can often see 
where things are failing, something which is often hidden from Windows 
users.


I retired when Windows was at the 3.1 stage and Linux was pre-1.0, so my 
computing these days is more of a hobby than actual work, but it's a 
good way to keep the brain cells engaged.  I still haven't fully 
transitioned from the command line do a lot using the Terminal app.


Bob, N7XY

On 7/10/16 1:02 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

On Sat,7/9/2016 9:40 PM, Ken K6MR wrote:

“I think the amateur radio community would benefit tremendously from
transitioning to *n*x at some point in the future.”

Until the Linux folks make the installation of new hardware as easy 
as it is on Windows I don’t think it will ever happen.


I'm VERY strongly in Ken's camp on this one. I started with computers 
in the early '80s with a measurement system running in CP/M, which I 
took the time to learn. I also took the time to learn DOS, and to do 
relatively simple programming in SBASIC and BASIC. A few years down 
the road, I transitioned to Windoze, because that's where the 
engineering applications I needed ran. Later, I tried to make OS/2 
work for me, but I spent more time getting those specialty Windoze 
apps to run in OS/2 than I did productive, billable work.


That's how I feel about the desire to make ham stuff run in *nix. I'm 
an engineer, a ham, a technical writer. I do NOT want to spend my time 
doing IT. I have paid those dues, and lost on the deal big time. OSs 
are not religious to me, they are practical for what I want to do on a 
computer.


A year or two ago, I went through the exercise of getting Linux and 
VBox to work on a couple of machines. It was a struggle, and I don't 
want to get into the reasons. I did that to try to run an ancient 
version Quattro Pro that happens to do engineering graphs better than 
anything I can find in current software -- it's what I use for all my 
published graphs. I got VBox running, but I've failed at installing a 
version of Windoze old enough to let me load QPW from floppies!


*nix may be wonderful if you're a programmer, but I'm not. :) As Ken 
has observed, there's way too much IT overhead involved.


73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Jim Brown]

On Sat,7/9/2016 9:40 PM, Ken K6MR wrote:

“I think the amateur radio community would benefit tremendously from
transitioning to *n*x at some point in the future.”

Until the Linux folks make the installation of new hardware as easy as it is on 
Windows I don’t think it will ever happen.


I'm VERY strongly in Ken's camp on this one. I started with computers in 
the early '80s with a measurement system running in CP/M, which I took 
the time to learn. I also took the time to learn DOS, and to do 
relatively simple programming in SBASIC and BASIC. A few years down the 
road, I transitioned to Windoze, because that's where the engineering 
applications I needed ran. Later, I tried to make OS/2 work for me, but 
I spent more time getting those specialty Windoze apps to run in OS/2 
than I did productive, billable work.


That's how I feel about the desire to make ham stuff run in *nix. I'm an 
engineer, a ham, a technical writer. I do NOT want to spend my time 
doing IT. I have paid those dues, and lost on the deal big time. OSs are 
not religious to me, they are practical for what I want to do on a 
computer.


A year or two ago, I went through the exercise of getting Linux and VBox 
to work on a couple of machines. It was a struggle, and I don't want to 
get into the reasons. I did that to try to run an ancient version 
Quattro Pro that happens to do engineering graphs better than anything I 
can find in current software -- it's what I use for all my published 
graphs. I got VBox running, but I've failed at installing a version of 
Windoze old enough to let me load QPW from floppies!


*nix may be wonderful if you're a programmer, but I'm not. :) As Ken has 
observed, there's way too much IT overhead involved.


73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Matt Murphy]

> I know people like to bad mouth Windows but the vast majority of stations
out there are running it very successfully. I just don’t see any advantages
to changing at the moment.

It is true, and Windows continues to improve. I installed Windows 10 and
have been very pleased with it. There is not currently a good reason for
most hams to leave Windows.

Fortunately, Windows 10 will soon offer Linux as an optional module, so
many of the benefits of Linux may soon be available to Windows users.

73,
Matt NQ6N



On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 11:40 PM, Ken K6MR <k...@outlook.com> wrote:

> “I think the amateur radio community would benefit tremendously from
> transitioning to *n*x at some point in the future.”
>
> Until the Linux folks make the installation of new hardware as easy as it
> is on Windows I don’t think it will ever happen.
>
> I tried to build the drivers for my serial card, network USB device, and
> network serial server, and after spending a couple of days trying to figure
> it out I gave up.  I don’t have an extensive software background, but I do
> have some programming experience with *nix systems.  If you have a simple
> hardware setup it might be ok but throw in anything unusual and it’s
> hopeless.  And then add in things like rotator controls (Windows only) and
> there is little chance it will ever work.
>
> The next major release of the logger I use (DXLog.net) is going to support
> Linux (and probably OSX) but without the third party hardware support I
> won’t be changing.
>
> I know people like to bad mouth Windows but the vast majority of stations
> out there are running it very successfully. I just don’t see any advantages
> to changing at the moment.
>
> Ken K6MR
>
>
> From: Matt Murphy<mailto:m...@nq6n.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 21:09
> To: a45wg<mailto:-unkno...@sy-edm.com>
> Cc: Dauer, Edward<mailto:eda...@law.du.edu>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +
>
> I'll chime in because this is something I've wondered about...
>
> N1MM+ is written in Microsoft's .NET framework.  Recently this became a
> cross-platform framework, and so theoretically the core functionality of
> N1MM could be made to run natively on Linux or OSX.
>
> However, N1MM uses a variety of libraries and integrations that are not
> cross-platform, and so if the N1MM team were to attempt to support Linux or
> OSX there would be a ton of additional work simply dealing with the
> confusion about what aspects would only work in Windows vs on other
> platforms.
>
> For anyone trying to use N1MM on Linux or OSX, I highly recommend the
> program called VirtualBox, which is a free alternative to Parallels and
> VMWare.  It is now owned/maintained by Oracle, and is very high quality.
> You simply install windows in VirtualBox and N1MM and any other programs
> work flawlessly.  Microsoft makes free versions of Windows available to the
> public that work for 90 days, and can easily be installed in VirtualBox.
>
> Linux and OSX both offer some tremendous advantages over Windows, and I
> think the amateur radio community would benefit tremendously from
> transitioning to *n*x at some point in the future.  In the meantime, I have
> my computers set up with VirtualBox or as a dual-boot.
>
> N1MM+ is superb software, and we are lucky to have such a skilled team of
> people maintaining it.  I'm continually impressed by the attention to
> detail and small quality improvements that arrive with each new release.
>
> VirtualBox download link here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
>
> 73,
> Matt NQ6N
>
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:11 PM, a45wg <-unkno...@sy-edm.com> wrote:
>
> > Guy,
> > Out of interest from a SW Developer point of View what is N1MM
> > written in ?
> >
> > Tim - A45WG
> >
> >
> > > On 9 Jul 2016, at 18:38, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > They have stated that to create a parallel product for Mac platforms is
> > > beyond their intentions and resources. Having had a few conversations,
> > that
> > > really does seem a fair and intelligent decision. For them, to keep
> from
> > > wasting precious volunteer resources on keeping up with OS
> perturbations
> > > not related to the product, their development platform and single
> chosen
> > OS
> > > need to be as stable as possibly can be. They do seem open to a tweak
> > here
> > > and there for problems served up **completely analyzed and solved** in
> > the
> > > run-it-on-a-win

Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Ken K6MR]

“I think the amateur radio community would benefit tremendously from
transitioning to *n*x at some point in the future.”

Until the Linux folks make the installation of new hardware as easy as it is on 
Windows I don’t think it will ever happen.

I tried to build the drivers for my serial card, network USB device, and 
network serial server, and after spending a couple of days trying to figure it 
out I gave up.  I don’t have an extensive software background, but I do have 
some programming experience with *nix systems.  If you have a simple hardware 
setup it might be ok but throw in anything unusual and it’s hopeless.  And then 
add in things like rotator controls (Windows only) and there is little chance 
it will ever work.

The next major release of the logger I use (DXLog.net) is going to support 
Linux (and probably OSX) but without the third party hardware support I won’t 
be changing.

I know people like to bad mouth Windows but the vast majority of stations out 
there are running it very successfully. I just don’t see any advantages to 
changing at the moment.

Ken K6MR


From: Matt Murphy<mailto:m...@nq6n.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 21:09
To: a45wg<mailto:-unkno...@sy-edm.com>
Cc: Dauer, Edward<mailto:eda...@law.du.edu>; 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

I'll chime in because this is something I've wondered about...

N1MM+ is written in Microsoft's .NET framework.  Recently this became a
cross-platform framework, and so theoretically the core functionality of
N1MM could be made to run natively on Linux or OSX.

However, N1MM uses a variety of libraries and integrations that are not
cross-platform, and so if the N1MM team were to attempt to support Linux or
OSX there would be a ton of additional work simply dealing with the
confusion about what aspects would only work in Windows vs on other
platforms.

For anyone trying to use N1MM on Linux or OSX, I highly recommend the
program called VirtualBox, which is a free alternative to Parallels and
VMWare.  It is now owned/maintained by Oracle, and is very high quality.
You simply install windows in VirtualBox and N1MM and any other programs
work flawlessly.  Microsoft makes free versions of Windows available to the
public that work for 90 days, and can easily be installed in VirtualBox.

Linux and OSX both offer some tremendous advantages over Windows, and I
think the amateur radio community would benefit tremendously from
transitioning to *n*x at some point in the future.  In the meantime, I have
my computers set up with VirtualBox or as a dual-boot.

N1MM+ is superb software, and we are lucky to have such a skilled team of
people maintaining it.  I'm continually impressed by the attention to
detail and small quality improvements that arrive with each new release.

VirtualBox download link here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

73,
Matt NQ6N

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:11 PM, a45wg <-unkno...@sy-edm.com> wrote:

> Guy,
> Out of interest from a SW Developer point of View what is N1MM
> written in ?
>
> Tim - A45WG
>
>
> > On 9 Jul 2016, at 18:38, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > They have stated that to create a parallel product for Mac platforms is
> > beyond their intentions and resources. Having had a few conversations,
> that
> > really does seem a fair and intelligent decision. For them, to keep from
> > wasting precious volunteer resources on keeping up with OS perturbations
> > not related to the product, their development platform and single chosen
> OS
> > need to be as stable as possibly can be. They do seem open to a tweak
> here
> > and there for problems served up **completely analyzed and solved** in
> the
> > run-it-on-a-windows-emulator world.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

Visual Basic .NET and SQLite are the essentials.

73, Guy K2AV

On Saturday, July 9, 2016, a45wg <-unkno...@sy-edm.com> wrote:

> Guy,
> Out of interest from a SW Developer point of View what is N1MM written in ?
>
> Tim - A45WG
>
>
> On 9 Jul 2016, at 18:38, Guy Olinger K2AV  > wrote:
>
>
> They have stated that to create a parallel product for Mac platforms is
> beyond their intentions and resources. Having had a few conversations, that
> really does seem a fair and intelligent decision. For them, to keep from
> wasting precious volunteer resources on keeping up with OS perturbations
> not related to the product, their development platform and single chosen OS
> need to be as stable as possibly can be. They do seem open to a tweak here
> and there for problems served up **completely analyzed and solved** in the
> run-it-on-a-windows-emulator world.
>
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Matt Murphy]

I'll chime in because this is something I've wondered about...

N1MM+ is written in Microsoft's .NET framework.  Recently this became a
cross-platform framework, and so theoretically the core functionality of
N1MM could be made to run natively on Linux or OSX.

However, N1MM uses a variety of libraries and integrations that are not
cross-platform, and so if the N1MM team were to attempt to support Linux or
OSX there would be a ton of additional work simply dealing with the
confusion about what aspects would only work in Windows vs on other
platforms.

For anyone trying to use N1MM on Linux or OSX, I highly recommend the
program called VirtualBox, which is a free alternative to Parallels and
VMWare.  It is now owned/maintained by Oracle, and is very high quality.
You simply install windows in VirtualBox and N1MM and any other programs
work flawlessly.  Microsoft makes free versions of Windows available to the
public that work for 90 days, and can easily be installed in VirtualBox.

Linux and OSX both offer some tremendous advantages over Windows, and I
think the amateur radio community would benefit tremendously from
transitioning to *n*x at some point in the future.  In the meantime, I have
my computers set up with VirtualBox or as a dual-boot.

N1MM+ is superb software, and we are lucky to have such a skilled team of
people maintaining it.  I'm continually impressed by the attention to
detail and small quality improvements that arrive with each new release.

VirtualBox download link here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

73,
Matt NQ6N

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:11 PM, a45wg <-unkno...@sy-edm.com> wrote:

> Guy,
> Out of interest from a SW Developer point of View what is N1MM
> written in ?
>
> Tim - A45WG
>
>
> > On 9 Jul 2016, at 18:38, Guy Olinger K2AV  wrote:
> >
> >
> > They have stated that to create a parallel product for Mac platforms is
> > beyond their intentions and resources. Having had a few conversations,
> that
> > really does seem a fair and intelligent decision. For them, to keep from
> > wasting precious volunteer resources on keeping up with OS perturbations
> > not related to the product, their development platform and single chosen
> OS
> > need to be as stable as possibly can be. They do seem open to a tweak
> here
> > and there for problems served up **completely analyzed and solved** in
> the
> > run-it-on-a-windows-emulator world.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[a45wg]

Guy,
Out of interest from a SW Developer point of View what is N1MM written 
in ?

Tim - A45WG


> On 9 Jul 2016, at 18:38, Guy Olinger K2AV  wrote:
> 
> 
> They have stated that to create a parallel product for Mac platforms is
> beyond their intentions and resources. Having had a few conversations, that
> really does seem a fair and intelligent decision. For them, to keep from
> wasting precious volunteer resources on keeping up with OS perturbations
> not related to the product, their development platform and single chosen OS
> need to be as stable as possibly can be. They do seem open to a tweak here
> and there for problems served up **completely analyzed and solved** in the
> run-it-on-a-windows-emulator world.

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Jim Larson]

I’ve been using N1MM+ via a Windows 10 Virtual Box VM on my iMac.  Works pretty 
well, but as Bob, N7XY said, RUMlogNG works great as a native app.  That is my 
preferred contesting app, especially on CW.  Uses the K3S internal keyer 
instead of computer generated CW characters.  Sounds much cleaner.

Anyway, options to  try.  RUMlogNG is a free download via the App Store.


Jim - KK7A


On July 9, 2016 at 3:47:00 PM, Bob Nielsen (n...@n7xy.net) wrote:

While probably lacking some of the features of N!MM+, RUMlogNG does a  
great job on contests as well as general logging, so we Mac users can  
avoid going to the dark side :^). Tom (DL2RUM) is continually adding  
new contests to the list, so one should check frequently for an updated  
version.  

Bob, N7XY  

On 7/9/16 7:11 AM, Fred Moore wrote:  
> I don't have any problem running under on my Mac, running winblows 7  
> under parallels, have been doing this for a couple of years.. for  
> normal logging I use RumlogNG.. Regards.. Fred  
>  
>  
> On 7/9/16 8:11 AM, Neil Martinsen-Burrell wrote:  
>> On Jul 9, 2016 5:43 AM, "Dauer, Edward"  wrote:  
>>> Unfortunately it is still not available for Mac, and the developers seem  
>> hesitant about using a Windows emulator on an Apple computer. Below is a  
>> clip taken from the N1MM + website today. Does anyone have any more  
>> current info?  
>>  
>> That is still the most current info. I would love to hear if anyone has  
>> made the new version of N1MM+ work under WINE, but as far as I know, no one  
>> has succeeded at that. The closest that anyone has come is using a full  
>> Windows virtual machine to run N1MM+. Dale Putnam WC7S is one person who  
>> has reported success with that setup.  
>>  
>> -Neil N0FN  
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Bob Nielsen]

While probably lacking some of the features of N!MM+, RUMlogNG does a 
great job on contests as well as general logging, so we Mac users can 
avoid going to the dark side :^).  Tom (DL2RUM) is continually adding 
new contests to the list, so one should check frequently for an updated 
version.


Bob, N7XY

On 7/9/16 7:11 AM, Fred Moore wrote:

I don't have any problem running under on my Mac, running winblows 7
under parallels, have been doing this for a couple of years..  for
normal logging I use RumlogNG..  Regards.. Fred


On 7/9/16 8:11 AM, Neil Martinsen-Burrell wrote:

On Jul 9, 2016 5:43 AM, "Dauer, Edward"  wrote:

Unfortunately it is still not available for Mac, and the developers seem

hesitant about using a Windows emulator on an Apple computer.  Below is a
clip taken from the N1MM + website today.  Does anyone have any more
current info?

That is still the most current info. I would love to hear if anyone has
made the new version of N1MM+ work under WINE, but as far as I know, no one
has succeeded at that. The closest that anyone has come is using a full
Windows virtual machine to run N1MM+. Dale Putnam WC7S is one person who
has reported success with that setup.

-Neil N0FN
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Nr4c]

I use BOOTCAMP to run Win8.1 for portable use with my MacBook Pro. Works great. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jul 9, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately it is still not available for Mac, and the developers seem 
> hesitant about using a Windows emulator on an Apple computer.  Below is a 
> clip taken from the N1MM + website today.  Does anyone have any more current 
> info?
> 
> ---
> 12. Is there any chance of a cross-platform version for Linux or Mac users?
> 
> No. Some users have reported varying degrees of success running N1MM Logger 
> on top of Windows emulators on Mac (Dave, K6WDE/KH6) and Linux clients. 
> Although we wish them the best of luck in their endeavors, this is not a 
> configuration that the Dev Team can support
> 
> 
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 16:39:37 -0400
> From: "Chester Alderman" 
> To: "'Jim GM'" , "'Elecraft'"
>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys
> Message-ID: <01d1d958$d8763530$89629f90$@windstream.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> N1MM is not even supported anymore! If that is what you are using, you are
> making a mistake? N1MM Plus, which was released in early 2014 is the current
> supported contest program and it has thousands of very happy users, all with
> various PC's and rigs, and the program has been acclaimed as being one of
> the best contest programs. I have been using N1MM + for many years with both
> of my K3's and the ONLY problem I have had with it has always been
> self-induced user issues. If you enjoy contesting with Elecraft (and most
> any other manufacturer's equipment) you would find extremely good support
> from the authors of N1MM Plus. Just bad-mouthing a good product produces a
> dim view of the writer.
> 
> 73,
> Tom - W4BQF
> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

Responding to some number of comments in this and closely related threads,
not just this particular poster.

1) A reminder that PLAIN N1MM is NO LONGER SUPPORTED, for two years now.
Shouting intended.

N1MM+ is the current and supported version. Any problem you have with the
old MM, the first step is to upgrade to the latest N1MM+. Plus you will
open yourself up to a small pile of neat new features. Any problem with
MM+, the first step is to upgrade to the latest MM+. Still problems? Go to
their excellent support reflector, where there are many patient and
informed members who have zero problems helping steer a newby or an
unfortunate victim to a successful launch. With a little practice and
reading, the MM+ doc will become your best friend. Many, many, many hours
have been spent to create that excellent doc. If someone does not answer
your reflector post in ten minutes, remember that everything is volunteer,
no paid staff. Leave yourself generous run up time before a contest to
allow conversations to run a cycle per evening. If not, those who will
finally answer you are most likely not reading email at that particular
instant, most likely already making contacts in the contest you are trying
to start late and unprepared.

2) AGAIN, N1MM+ is FREE, NOT COMMERCIAL. Shouting intended.

The team of developers et al putting out MM+ **donate** their time and
effort, and have managed to create a stellar **non-commercial** product.
They have stated that to create a parallel product for Mac platforms is
beyond their intentions and resources. Having had a few conversations, that
really does seem a fair and intelligent decision. For them, to keep from
wasting precious volunteer resources on keeping up with OS perturbations
not related to the product, their development platform and single chosen OS
need to be as stable as possibly can be. They do seem open to a tweak here
and there for problems served up **completely analyzed and solved** in the
run-it-on-a-windows-emulator world.

I worked for SAS Institute for 20 years, where SAS' various products
simultaneously supported IBM mainframes, traditional UNIX platforms, PC
operating systems, Windows, for a while OS-2, and various PC versions of
UNIX. For those two decades, I worked in the mainframe section of that
effort. Maintaining that dozen OS parallelism was an **enormous** task,
**grotesquely** complicated, never-endingly rocked by perturbations,
revisions and screw-ups from OS and driver programmers, soaking up hundreds
of employees (really, hundreds), some thirty-odd of them requiring a
peculiar necessarily company-grown skill set that was impossible to hire
for off the open programmer market. Never allow yourself to perceive
difficulty or delay on, or refusal of, multi-platform support as some
dereliction. There, especially for free volunteer efforts, until you have
worked a mile in their shoes, you are simply not qualified to give
criticism.

3) Even compared to many commercial products, N1MM+ is remarkably
responsive in general, particularly in keeping up with changes in the
contesting arena. They even developed a way for the USER to create a
contest script which the logger will run, allowing many tiny contests, like
our annual rules-revised-yet-again PVRC on-the-air reunion, to roll their
own.

4) DO JOIN THE MM REFLECTOR. It is a great bunch over there. Many of us
there have worked through all the same newby confusions. We get it, we
understand, we have ourselves suffered total confusion, and we will help
ease you into the RTFM :>) What is politely tolerated and supported OT on
Elecraft (thank you Eric) is the main drag on MM. There are **many**
Elecraft owners on the MM reflector. You will find call signs common to
both Elecraft and the MM reflector.

ALSO, it might just be that you are the first to separate out a bug, and if
you do not post there, it remains hidden to the only group who **can** and
**do want** to actually fix it. They are **not** scanning the Elecraft
reflector for MM+ bugs.

73, Guy K2AV

On Saturday, July 9, 2016, Dauer, Edward  wrote:

> Unfortunately it is still not available for Mac, and the developers seem
> hesitant about using a Windows emulator on an Apple computer.  Below is a
> clip taken from the N1MM + website today.  Does anyone have any more
> current info?
>
> ---
> 12. Is there any chance of a cross-platform version for Linux or Mac users?
>
> No. Some users have reported varying degrees of success running N1MM
> Logger on top of Windows emulators on Mac (Dave, K6WDE/KH6) and Linux
> clients. Although we wish them the best of luck in their endeavors, this is
> not a configuration that the Dev Team can support
>
> 
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
>
>
>
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 16:39:37 -0400
> From: "Chester Alderman" 
> To: "'Jim GM'" , "'Elecraft'"
> 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys
> 

Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Fred Moore]

I don't have any problem running under on my Mac, running winblows 7
under parallels, have been doing this for a couple of years..  for
normal logging I use RumlogNG..  Regards.. Fred


On 7/9/16 8:11 AM, Neil Martinsen-Burrell wrote:
> On Jul 9, 2016 5:43 AM, "Dauer, Edward"  wrote:
>> Unfortunately it is still not available for Mac, and the developers seem
> hesitant about using a Windows emulator on an Apple computer.  Below is a
> clip taken from the N1MM + website today.  Does anyone have any more
> current info?
>
> That is still the most current info. I would love to hear if anyone has
> made the new version of N1MM+ work under WINE, but as far as I know, no one
> has succeeded at that. The closest that anyone has come is using a full
> Windows virtual machine to run N1MM+. Dale Putnam WC7S is one person who
> has reported success with that setup.
>
> -Neil N0FN
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Neil Martinsen-Burrell]

On Jul 9, 2016 5:43 AM, "Dauer, Edward"  wrote:
>
> Unfortunately it is still not available for Mac, and the developers seem
hesitant about using a Windows emulator on an Apple computer.  Below is a
clip taken from the N1MM + website today.  Does anyone have any more
current info?

That is still the most current info. I would love to hear if anyone has
made the new version of N1MM+ work under WINE, but as far as I know, no one
has succeeded at that. The closest that anyone has come is using a full
Windows virtual machine to run N1MM+. Dale Putnam WC7S is one person who
has reported success with that setup.

-Neil N0FN
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[Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

[Dauer, Edward]

Unfortunately it is still not available for Mac, and the developers seem 
hesitant about using a Windows emulator on an Apple computer.  Below is a clip 
taken from the N1MM + website today.  Does anyone have any more current info?

---
12. Is there any chance of a cross-platform version for Linux or Mac users?

No. Some users have reported varying degrees of success running N1MM Logger on 
top of Windows emulators on Mac (Dave, K6WDE/KH6) and Linux clients. Although 
we wish them the best of luck in their endeavors, this is not a configuration 
that the Dev Team can support



Ted, KN1CBR




Message: 3
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 16:39:37 -0400
From: "Chester Alderman" 
To: "'Jim GM'" , "'Elecraft'"

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys
Message-ID: <01d1d958$d8763530$89629f90$@windstream.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

Hi Jim,

N1MM is not even supported anymore! If that is what you are using, you are
making a mistake? N1MM Plus, which was released in early 2014 is the current
supported contest program and it has thousands of very happy users, all with
various PC's and rigs, and the program has been acclaimed as being one of
the best contest programs. I have been using N1MM + for many years with both
of my K3's and the ONLY problem I have had with it has always been
self-induced user issues. If you enjoy contesting with Elecraft (and most
any other manufacturer's equipment) you would find extremely good support
from the authors of N1MM Plus. Just bad-mouthing a good product produces a
dim view of the writer.

73,
Tom - W4BQF





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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

[Bill Frantz]

For me, Field Day is how I cut my eye teeth on contesting, so I 
consider it a contest. But it is also so much more: Public 
outreach, Party, Camping trip, Emergency preparedness drill, 
etc. etc. etc.


On the other hand, I generally don't enter contests to try to 
have a big score. I enter them to have fun. (But big scores are 
fun too.) For example, to test my digital station for Field Day, 
I entered the Ukrainian RTTY contest. Working in that contest 
got all the bugs worked out of my setup, and reminded me how to 
get around the bugs in the computer software I used. The big 
bonus was two ATNOs.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 6/27/16 at 10:28 AM, rodenkirch_...@msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) wrote:


I see you're a "FD isn't a contest" devote.you've sipped the ARRL
'non-contest' kool-aidyeah, surethat's why the arrl scores entries,
'cuz it's not a contesthi hi


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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

[Jim Rodenkirch]

My query was answered, Doug...that's good 'cuz now we know the contesting s/w
limits.

I understand and appreciate your sideways focus on "short and sweet" for
most conteststhat doesn't work well, necessarily, during, for instance,
a stew perry 160 event where us qrp ops are coveted"more sending" is,
often, a requirement.

I see you're a "FD isn't a contest" devote.you've sipped the ARRL
'non-contest' kool-aidyeah, surethat's why the arrl scores entries,
'cuz it's not a contesthi hi

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

[Doug Ellmore]

Jim,

I know this may be sideways to your technical issue, but for those who do
S in a contest or FD (which is an operating event), waiting for long CQs
can be frustrating.  Keeping it short can increase your QSO rate and the
QSO rate of those doing S

Here are the scenarios:

CONTESTING

   Calling station: CQ Test  k [pause 3-5 sec before sending CQ
again]

   S station:  

   Calling station  

   S station:  

   Calling station TU QRZ  k


DXING

   For DXing I use the following:

   Calling station:

   Calling station: CQ DX  k [pause 3-5 sec before sending CQ
again]
 or
CQ DX  UP [pause 3-5 sec before
sending CQ again]

   S station: 

   Calling station:  

   S station: TU  

   Calling station: TU QRZ 
  or
   TU QRZ  UP



Both scenario allow as many operators to work each other in the least
amount of time.

Also, for the faster interface with less lag, I use a WinKeyer or Winkeyer
Lite.  There is essentially no delay so you can have instant function key
or typing from N1MM+.

The Win4K3 suite software also support the WinKeyer, too.  So you can
program function keys and buttons in the terminal window just like N1MM+.

73

Doug
NA1DX



K9JWV wrote:

Here is my F1 macro for CW contests:

F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;}

If I enter two "cqs"   {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not
sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM
and the KX3?

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

[James Rodenkirch]

Why didn't you just purchase the USB interconnect cable, Bill? Add two 
interconnect audio cables for mic and headphone and you're wired for 
quadrasonic multiplexwell as far as utilizing your computer for contest 
logging and operating CW as well as JT9/65, PSK-31, etc. 


What am I missing??

71.5 de Jim R. K9JWV  

From: Nr4c <n...@widomaker.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 5:59 PM
To: Jim Rodenkirch
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

When I got my KX3, I built a pair of transistor switches that fit in a DE-9 
shell. Added cables for RX/TX, PTT and CW KEYING and now it works just like a 
K3 with CAT, PTT and CW using DTR, and RTS from n1mm all from a standard KUSB 
that works with the K3.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jun 26, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Jim Rodenkirch <rodenkirch_...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Here is my F1 macro for CW contests:
>
> F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;}
>
> If I enter two "cqs"   {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not
> sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM
> and the KX3?
>
> Just tryin' to unnerstandtnx, in advance, for your reply -- Jim
> R K9JWV
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

[Nr4c]

When I got my KX3, I built a pair of transistor switches that fit in a DE-9 
shell. Added cables for RX/TX, PTT and CW KEYING and now it works just like a 
K3 with CAT, PTT and CW using DTR, and RTS from n1mm all from a standard KUSB 
that works with the K3. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jun 26, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Jim Rodenkirch  wrote:
> 
> Here is my F1 macro for CW contests:
> 
> F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;} 
> 
> If I enter two "cqs"   {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not
> sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM
> and the KX3?
> 
> Just tryin' to unnerstandtnx, in advance, for your reply -- Jim
> R K9JWV
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

[Jim Rodenkirch]

Bingo.mucho gracias.."problem" solved..tnx, Rich.I sure
hope they expand that "buffer" some in a later firmware update/upgrade 



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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

[James Rodenkirch]

Well, FredI coulda listed it as F1 CQ, {CATA1ASC KY cq TEST * * test;}

Regardless, either "version" produces the same..adding the 2nd cq (for 
either 'version') results in nothing out of the KX3


From: Cady, Fred <fc...@montana.edu>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 1:58 PM
To: Jim Rodenkirch; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

isn't it {cat1asc...} ?



From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Jim Rodenkirch 
<rodenkirch_...@msn.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 1:34 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

Here is my F1 macro for CW contests:

F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;}

If I enter two "cqs"   {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not
sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM
and the KX3?

Just tryin' to unnerstandtnx, in advance, for your reply -- Jim
R K9JWV



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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

[Richard Ferch]

The limit is in the KX3 firmware. According to the K3 Programmer's
Manual, the upper limit on the length of a text message that can be sent
using the KY command is 24 characters. Your original message already
comprises 24 characters after the * macros are expanded, so the added "cq "
pushed it over the limit.

73,
Rich VE3KI


K9JWV wrote:

Here is my F1 macro for CW contests:

F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;}

If I enter two "cqs"   {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not
sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM
and the KX3?
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

[Cady, Fred]

isn't it {cat1asc...} ?



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Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

Here is my F1 macro for CW contests:

F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;}

If I enter two "cqs"   {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not
sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM
and the KX3?

Just tryin' to unnerstandtnx, in advance, for your reply -- Jim
R K9JWV



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[Elecraft] N1MM and KX3

[Jim Rodenkirch]

Here is my F1 macro for CW contests:

F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;} 

If I enter two "cqs"   {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not
sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM
and the KX3?

Just tryin' to unnerstandtnx, in advance, for your reply -- Jim
R K9JWV



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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM, KX3, and KXPA100

[Ryan Noguchi via Elecraft]

I use N1MM Logger+ with my KX3 and KXPA100. Never had the issue you describe 
with my equipment. 
My first suggestion would be to make sure you're using the latest firmware, 
especially on the KXPA100. The firmware on my club's KX3 and KXPA100 were 
horrendously out of date, resulting in all kinds of trouble with the tuner and 
PA until I updated the firmware, including a similar issue to what you 
described independent of N1MM Logger+. 

73, Ryan AI6DO

  From: Michael Dinkelman via Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
 To: "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 9:27 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM, KX3, and KXPA100
   
I've borrowed a KX3 and KXPA100 for the 7QP, going mobile.
I plan to use N1MM for logging, keying, and frequency control.

I can get N1MM to talk to the KX3.
I can get N1MM to talk to the KX3 through the KXPA100 daisy chained
serial connection.

However, whenever I talk through to the KX3 through the KXPA100,
the PA gets turned off. If I turn it back on, it gets turned back off.

I can't find any clues in the manuals and I can't find any clues on a search
of the net.

Someone must be using N1MM to talk to the KX3/KXPA100 combo.
Can someone give me any ideas of what I am doing wrong?

cheers
dink, n7wa



  
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM, KX3, and KXPA100

[Bob N3MNT]

I use N1MM+ through the KXPA100 weekly and have no issues.  Check the baud
rate.  Should be 38,400.  Make sure KX3 is selected as radio.



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[Elecraft] N1MM, KX3, and KXPA100

[Michael Dinkelman via Elecraft]

I've borrowed a KX3 and KXPA100 for the 7QP, going mobile.
I plan to use N1MM for logging, keying, and frequency control.

I can get N1MM to talk to the KX3.
I can get N1MM to talk to the KX3 through the KXPA100 daisy chained
serial connection.

However, whenever I talk through to the KX3 through the KXPA100,
the PA gets turned off. If I turn it back on, it gets turned back off.

I can't find any clues in the manuals and I can't find any clues on a search
of the net.

Someone must be using N1MM to talk to the KX3/KXPA100 combo.
Can someone give me any ideas of what I am doing wrong?

cheers
dink, n7wa
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[Elecraft] N1MM CW issue

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

Hi, Al

I have a long list of things that will clip dits, and only one of them
involved the K3, and that went away nicely with the new synthesizers.

El Numero Uno contest QSK problem, with nothing in second place, is QSK
dealing with amplifiers that will not do T/R turn-around (including the
relay points *settling*) in less time than the space between dits  :>)  The
manufacturers do not want to deal with it because it's either expensive and
tricky with relays, or it's pin diodes that get whacked at full QRO from
transmitting into an open, static on the antenna, lightning induced pulses,
etc. Some hams do fine with the pin diodes and others have nothing but
trouble with them, depends on a lot of things.

Some transceiver manufacturers simply clip the keyed input if the delay is
too long, a defensive solution resulting in short dits but *not* burning
amp relays or carbon-arcing amplifier bandswitches.

Myself, I have given up on contest QSK, and let my microHam u2R handle
providing PTT to the amp and delay to the u2R generated code. Since the u2R
(not the K3) converts both ascii data via a serial cable from the PC and my
paddle input to keyed line, and it uses the WinKey chip to do most of that,
it is also in a position to slightly delay the onset of morse output just a
little behind a PTT output. That delay can be set to match the most
atrocious T/R relay, including an old unmodified AL1200, with never a
clipped dit.

That is separate from the ancient problem of a computer not quite having
enough processing power to handle the operating system AND generate
pristine on/off morse code key output. Again some do OK generating code
this way and others have awful problems with it. The reasons why or why not
are often not clear at all.

These issues have gigabytes of postings on the subject in the various
ham archives, rehashed ad nauseum as the subject comes up over and over
again over the last two decades. It certainly is anything but an
recently emergent problem.

With my settings, the Alpha drops at the end of each letter, which is good
enough to hear if someone already started sending under me and I can stop
paddling or hit escape. I gave up on contest QSK not because of the K3, but
because of the general issues that touch everything, and I am tired of
replacing relays in amplifiers and finding out I have clicks when the
contacts go bad.

When there is a transistor full QRO amp using battleship grade pin diodes,
where the entire amp is as reliable as the KPA500 or my tube Alpha, **and
that does not exceed the rest of my station in purchase price**, I'll
switch. But I *continue* to hear stories about pin diodes and transistor
amps blowing finals, even if some insist that theirs have always been fine
(God bless them, I envy their good luck).

Last night in the ARRL 160 contest there was a K0 station that could not
send "IA" for his section. Before dit-dropping occurred to me, he was
sending "EA" for section and I was asking for a fill.

73, Guy K2AV

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Al Lorona > wrote:

> Right after the CW SS I composed a message for the list, then trashed it
> after sleeping on it which I always do before posting. Now that the issue
> has come up on its own I wish to make an observation.
>
> During the contest I heard many stations with shortened dits. They sounded
> pretty bad and I reckon they weren't listening to themselves else they'd
> have done something about it.
>
> Presuming that some of these signals were coming out of K3's [because some
> of these were well-known contesters] I actually got nervous and checked my
> own signal which, like Tom's, is generated by N1MM+ keying the K3 through
> DTR, but was relieved to find that my dits were okay.
>
> So there's something going on out there, and I don't know what it is, but
> what I do know is that keying through the USB-to-Serial is proven to work
> well as Tom has verified. He should know; he is a very QRQ CW op.
>
> Al W6LX
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM CW issue

[w5sum]

I also use the WinKey USB with my K3 and it works flawlessly!

Ronnie W5SUM

-Original Message- 
From: Scott via Elecraft

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 8:27 PM
To: kevin.sto...@mediacombb.net ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N1MM CW issue


I did the same thing after having the same problem and have to agree  the
WInkey USB is (so far) flawless.

But I really would like to know how Tom avoids the issue directly keying
the radio, especially for portable ops.

Operating under W8.1 with direct keying I had about everything that could
be shutdown, shutdown, and still hit the 30 WPM wall without the  WInkeyer.

Scott ka9p



In a message dated 12/4/2015 7:01:22 P.M. Central Standard Time,
kevin.sto...@mediacombb.net writes:

I've  used a Winkey USB for about four years now. Perfect code. I don't
have to  worry about the PC getting busy and screwing up the CW sent with
serial  lines.

On 12/4/2015 11:44 AM, Al Lorona wrote:

Right after the  CW SS I composed a message for the list, then trashed it

after sleeping on it  which I always do before posting. Now that the issue
has come up on its own I  wish to make an observation.


During the contest I heard many  stations with shortened dits. They
sounded pretty bad and I reckon they  weren't listening to themselves else 
they'd

have done something about  it.


Presuming that some of these signals were coming out of  K3's [because
some of these were well-known contesters] I actually got nervous  and 
checked

my own signal which, like Tom's, is generated by N1MM+ keying the  K3
through DTR, but was relieved to find that my dits were  okay.


So there's something going on out there, and I don't  know what it is,
but what I do know is that keying through the USB-to-Serial  is proven to 
work

well as Tom has verified. He should know; he is a very QRQ  CW op.



Al W6LX




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[Elecraft] N1MM CW issue

[Fausto Coletti]

Hi all, 

I noticed a problem with N1MM + in CW.  
When I select a speed higher than 28-30wpm, the weighing between points and 
lines changes and, 
at 40wpm the transmitted message becomes incomprehensible. 
Any suggestions? 

73, Fausto IK4NMF 
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM CW issue

[Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO]

If you have a K3 with the old synthesizer, then you will have this 
problem with a paddle or with N1MM, or indeed with any source of CW. One 
solution is to activate QRQ mode (CONFIG CW QRQ = ON). There are some 
limitations, such as not being able to use it with SPLIT or RIT/XIT. The 
better solution is to buy the new synthesizer and replace it. In that 
case, if you have the second receiver, you need two synthesizers, which 
unfortunately will be expensive (especially in Europe).


The K3S comes with the new synthesizer.

I suggest you try sending with a paddle at the speed you want to use to 
determine if this is the cause.


There is also a problem with any computer-generated CW that it can be 
affected by other processes in the computer, especially if you are 
accessing the Internet for spots at the same time. The best solution for 
this is to get a Winkey device which will interface with N1MM+ and 
generate the CW.


Both of these issues could contribute to the problem.

73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
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On 4 Dec 2015 10:14, Fausto Coletti wrote:

Hi all,

I noticed a problem with N1MM + in CW.
When I select a speed higher than 28-30wpm, the weighing between points and 
lines changes and,
at 40wpm the transmitted message becomes incomprehensible.
Any suggestions?

73, Fausto IK4NMF

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM CW issue

[Brian Hunt]

I think the dits that N1MM makes are too short, at least to my ear. I set the 
CW weighting in N1MM 10-20% heavier and that seems to help. I never get much 
above 32 won but it seems fine there. The CW weight setting in the K3 menu only 
affects paddle input. 

73,
Brian, K0DTJ

> When I select a speed higher than 28-30wpm, the weighing between points and 
> lines changes and, 
> at 40wpm the transmitted message becomes incomprehensible. 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM CW issue

[Chester Alderman]

What you both neglect to mention is how you are keying with NL+? It makes a
difference.
For keying my K3, I use the DTR line. I have tested sending CW, with the
default weight setting, up to about 115 wpm and from 20 wpm up to the max of
my K3, in my opinion, the NL+ weight maintains perfect weight/spacing up to
that speed.

So what do you use for keying NL+ and what rig are you using?

73,
Tom - W4BQF


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian
Hunt
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 10:34 AM
To: Fausto Coletti
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N1MM CW issue

I think the dits that N1MM makes are too short, at least to my ear. I set
the CW weighting in N1MM 10-20% heavier and that seems to help. I never get
much above 32 won but it seems fine there. The CW weight setting in the K3
menu only affects paddle input. 

73,
Brian, K0DTJ

> When I select a speed higher than 28-30wpm, the weighing between 
> points and lines changes and, at 40wpm the transmitted message becomes
incomprehensible.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM CW issue

[Al Lorona]

Right after the CW SS I composed a message for the list, then trashed it after 
sleeping on it which I always do before posting. Now that the issue has come up 
on its own I wish to make an observation.

During the contest I heard many stations with shortened dits. They sounded 
pretty bad and I reckon they weren't listening to themselves else they'd have 
done something about it.

Presuming that some of these signals were coming out of K3's [because some of 
these were well-known contesters] I actually got nervous and checked my own 
signal which, like Tom's, is generated by N1MM+ keying the K3 through DTR, but 
was relieved to find that my dits were okay.

So there's something going on out there, and I don't know what it is, but what 
I do know is that keying through the USB-to-Serial is proven to work well as 
Tom has verified. He should know; he is a very QRQ CW op.


Al W6LX



>>>For keying my K3, I use the DTR line. I have tested sending CW, with the
>>>default weight setting, up to about 115 wpm and from 20 wpm up to the max of
>>>my K3, in my opinion, the NL+ weight maintains perfect weight/spacing up to

>>>that speed.
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM CW issue

[Kevin Stover]

I've used a Winkey USB for about four years now. Perfect code. I don't 
have to worry about the PC getting busy and screwing up the CW sent with 
serial lines.


On 12/4/2015 11:44 AM, Al Lorona wrote:

Right after the CW SS I composed a message for the list, then trashed it after 
sleeping on it which I always do before posting. Now that the issue has come up 
on its own I wish to make an observation.

During the contest I heard many stations with shortened dits. They sounded 
pretty bad and I reckon they weren't listening to themselves else they'd have 
done something about it.

Presuming that some of these signals were coming out of K3's [because some of 
these were well-known contesters] I actually got nervous and checked my own 
signal which, like Tom's, is generated by N1MM+ keying the K3 through DTR, but 
was relieved to find that my dits were okay.

So there's something going on out there, and I don't know what it is, but what 
I do know is that keying through the USB-to-Serial is proven to work well as 
Tom has verified. He should know; he is a very QRQ CW op.


Al W6LX




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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM CW issue

[Scott via Elecraft]

 
I did the same thing after having the same problem and have to agree  the 
WInkey USB is (so far) flawless.
 
But I really would like to know how Tom avoids the issue directly keying  
the radio, especially for portable ops.
 
Operating under W8.1 with direct keying I had about everything that could  
be shutdown, shutdown, and still hit the 30 WPM wall without the  WInkeyer. 
 
Scott ka9p

 
 
In a message dated 12/4/2015 7:01:22 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
kevin.sto...@mediacombb.net writes:

I've  used a Winkey USB for about four years now. Perfect code. I don't 
have to  worry about the PC getting busy and screwing up the CW sent with 
serial  lines.

On 12/4/2015 11:44 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
> Right after the  CW SS I composed a message for the list, then trashed it 
after sleeping on it  which I always do before posting. Now that the issue 
has come up on its own I  wish to make an observation.
>
> During the contest I heard many  stations with shortened dits. They 
sounded pretty bad and I reckon they  weren't listening to themselves else 
they'd 
have done something about  it.
>
> Presuming that some of these signals were coming out of  K3's [because 
some of these were well-known contesters] I actually got nervous  and checked 
my own signal which, like Tom's, is generated by N1MM+ keying the  K3 
through DTR, but was relieved to find that my dits were  okay.
>
> So there's something going on out there, and I don't  know what it is, 
but what I do know is that keying through the USB-to-Serial  is proven to work 
well as Tom has verified. He should know; he is a very QRQ  CW op.
>
>
> Al W6LX
>


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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Classic, MH MK2R+ and K3

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Check the audio switching tab in Router and make sure the correct
sound card (Audio Codec) is selected.  Then make sure you have selected
Speaker (USB Audio CODEC) as the output device in N1MM Logger.

Example configurations for both N1MM Logger (classic) and N1MM Logger+
are available in the MK2R+ section of www.microHAM-USA.com/support.html.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-10-24 10:28 PM, Milt -- N5IA wrote:

This is late, but perhaps someone can provide me with a clue.

I loaded a new log for the CQWWSSB and started doing check outs on my
station.  Everything is FB with the exception of the voice playback.

All settings are the same, and have not changed since last using this
combo of N1MM Classic and the MicroHam MK 2R++.  I am using the same
.wav files I used last year for this event.

When the F keys are selected, the transmit works OK and runs for the
length of time of the audio files, whichever one is selected.

However, there is no audio.  The microphone audio is OK through the MK 2R+.

Anyone have any idea of why the audio would not be present from the .wav
files even though the files are being selected and the TX keys for the
length of each file?

Any ideas of what to look for would be appreciated.

Thanks, Milt, N5IA, operator of N7GP


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[Elecraft] N1MM Classic, MH MK2R+ and K3

[Milt -- N5IA]

This is late, but perhaps someone can provide me with a clue.

I loaded a new log for the CQWWSSB and started doing check outs on my 
station.  Everything is FB with the exception of the voice playback.


All settings are the same, and have not changed since last using this combo 
of N1MM Classic and the MicroHam MK 2R++.  I am using the same .wav files I 
used last year for this event.


When the F keys are selected, the transmit works OK and runs for the length 
of time of the audio files, whichever one is selected.


However, there is no audio.  The microphone audio is OK through the MK 2R+.

Anyone have any idea of why the audio would not be present from the .wav 
files even though the files are being selected and the TX keys for the 
length of each file?


Any ideas of what to look for would be appreciated.

Thanks, Milt, N5IA, operator of N7GP 




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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM lack of instructions

[Bill W4ZV]

N1MM is probably the MOST popular contest logger.  There are 4,580 current
members on the list below and you'll probably get answers there faster than
here.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/N1MMLogger/info

73,  Bill  W4ZV



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[Elecraft] N1MM setup help

[Kevin]

I am using my IBM Thinkpad with an older K1EL keyer.  The keyer is 
plugged into the back of the K3 in the keyer socket.  The USB connection 
from the K1EL keyer is hooked to the Thinkpad.  The laptop is hooked 
directly to the K3 via its serial port; yes, a true serial port with a 
DB9 connector.


Now comes the problem: Setting the com ports correctly.

It has been years since I last hooked this together and I just today 
installed N1MM onto the recently installed OS.  I know I need to set the 
com ports to get it running correctly.  One for the serial connection 
and one for the USB connection.  Reading the installation notes for N1MM 
just buries me in information when all I really need is a picture of 
which com ports to use.  The last time I did this I just worked my way 
through all combinations until one magically worked.  Currently I don't 
have that kind of patience :)  Could anyone direct me to the short form 
of the instructions or give me a little hint as to which ports may 
work?  By the way, the OS I am using on the Thinkpad is the last version 
of XP.


73,
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[Elecraft] N1MM and K1EL Winkey

[Kevin]

Thus far I have found a few of the problems.  I needed an FT232R 
driver.  Now the Winkey can drive the K3 just fine.  N1MM on the other 
hand cannot seem to run the K3 at all.  While the USB connection is on 
COM 4 the serial port between the keyer and the laptop does not work on 
COM 1.  I am not sure what changed since I last had this all working.  
Any suggestions for getting N1MM to drive my K3?  I may need to reboot a 
few more times; this is a windows machine after all :)


==

My previous email 

I am using my IBM Thinkpad with an older K1EL keyer.  The keyer is 
plugged into the back of the K3 in the keyer socket.  The USB connection 
from the K1EL keyer is hooked to the Thinkpad.  The laptop is hooked 
directly to the K3 via its serial port; yes, a true serial port with a 
DB9 connector.


Now comes the problem: Setting the com ports correctly.

It has been years since I last hooked this together and I just today 
installed N1MM onto the recently installed OS.  I know I need to set the 
com ports to get it running correctly.  One for the serial connection 
and one for the USB connection.  Reading the installation notes for N1MM 
just buries me in information when all I really need is a picture of 
which com ports to use.  The last time I did this I just worked my way 
through all combinations until one magically worked.  Currently I don't 
have that kind of patience   Could anyone direct me to the short form of 
the instructions or give me a little hint as to which ports may work?  
By the way, the OS I am using on the Thinkpad is the last version of XP.




73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and K1EL Winkey

[Don Wilhelm]

Kevin,

If you have moved the USB connection from connector to connector, check 
your USB port assignment in Control Panel.  Sometimes a different com 
port is assigned to USB to serial adapters unless the same USB port is used.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/27/2014 7:46 PM, Kevin wrote:
Thus far I have found a few of the problems.  I needed an FT232R 
driver.  Now the Winkey can drive the K3 just fine.  N1MM on the other 
hand cannot seem to run the K3 at all.  While the USB connection is on 
COM 4 the serial port between the keyer and the laptop does not work 
on COM 1.  I am not sure what changed since I last had this all 
working.  Any suggestions for getting N1MM to drive my K3?  I may need 
to reboot a few more times; this is a windows machine after all :)


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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM setup help

[Charles Tropp via Elecraft]

Hi Kevin,

Setting up the K3 and the Winkeyer is actually pretty simple. Lets 
assume that you have connected your K3 to your laptop on your serial 
port. Let's also assume that you have connected your Winkeyer and that 
it has passed the communication test. Now your serial port is probably 
Com1. So open N1MM make sure you have the information and entry windows 
open. Now click on Config at the top of the entry window. Then select 
the very first line on the drop down menu called configure ports, mode 
control, ports, other. This will open the rather intimidating 
configurer window. Make sure the Hardware tab has been selected. Look 
at the first column, do you see Com1 on the left? Now click the little 
down arrow on that line and select the Elecraft K3 from the list that 
opens. Now push the set button on the right hand side. All the 
suggested Elecraft K3 settings have already been set for you. Just press 
OK down at the bottom. Now select the Winkey tab. Again, the settings 
have already been selected for you. Click OK at the bottom. When you do 
you will see the Winkey version appear on the Information window. Voila! 
You should be in business.


Good Luck, Charles N2SO

On 6/27/2014 7:04 PM, Kevin wrote:
I am using my IBM Thinkpad with an older K1EL keyer.  The keyer is 
plugged into the back of the K3 in the keyer socket.  The USB 
connection from the K1EL keyer is hooked to the Thinkpad.  The laptop 
is hooked directly to the K3 via its serial port; yes, a true serial 
port with a DB9 connector.


Now comes the problem: Setting the com ports correctly.

It has been years since I last hooked this together and I just today 
installed N1MM onto the recently installed OS.  I know I need to set 
the com ports to get it running correctly.  One for the serial 
connection and one for the USB connection.  Reading the installation 
notes for N1MM just buries me in information when all I really need is 
a picture of which com ports to use.  The last time I did this I just 
worked my way through all combinations until one magically worked.  
Currently I don't have that kind of patience :)  Could anyone direct 
me to the short form of the instructions or give me a little hint as 
to which ports may work? By the way, the OS I am using on the Thinkpad 
is the last version of XP.


73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM setup help

[Bob N3MNT]

You can also use the USB port to the radio interface to key the radio
directly and set up 10 user memories that will not require the K1EL keyer at
all unless you want to hand key .



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[Elecraft] N1MM lack of instructions

[Kevin]

I finally guessed the correct setup.  No searching of N1MM's 
documentation helped at all.  It was simply guessing which made the 
setup work.


Since COM1 is used by the Elecraft K3 and the Winkeyer uses COM4 I 
thought COM1 should be set as the CW port.  No, this is incorrect. It is 
solely the control port and not the CW port.  What is necessary is to go 
into setup from the Configure panel and check one box.  That box says 
Winkey.  I have yet to find this explained anywhere or by anyone.  It 
was just random chance that lead me to the dialog box I needed.  I 
picked COM4 and setup to get there. Once I checked the Winkey box I was 
able to use CW from the N1MM application.


Now how many more hours will it take before I discover how to load a 
Field Day template?  Does anyone use N1MM for a contest logger?


Kevin.  KD5ONS


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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM setup help

[Kevin]

Thank you.  After I finally found this by a chance discovery you have 
reaffirmed my effort.  Could you please tell me which template to choose 
for Field Day?

73,
 Kevin.   KD5ONS


On 6/27/2014 5:48 PM, Charles Tropp wrote:

Hi Kevin,

Setting up the K3 and the Winkeyer is actually pretty simple. Lets 
assume that you have connected your K3 to your laptop on your serial 
port. Let's also assume that you have connected your Winkeyer and that 
it has passed the communication test. Now your serial port is probably 
Com1. So open N1MM make sure you have the information and entry 
windows open. Now click on Config at the top of the entry window. Then 
select the very first line on the drop down menu called configure 
ports, mode control, ports, other. This will open the rather 
intimidating configurer window. Make sure the Hardware tab has been 
selected. Look at the first column, do you see Com1 on the left? Now 
click the little down arrow on that line and select the Elecraft K3 
from the list that opens. Now push the set button on the right hand 
side. All the suggested Elecraft K3 settings have already been set for 
you. Just press OK down at the bottom. Now select the Winkey tab. 
Again, the settings have already been selected for you. Click OK at 
the bottom. When you do you will see the Winkey version appear on the 
Information window. Voila! You should be in business.


Good Luck, Charles N2SO

On 6/27/2014 7:04 PM, Kevin wrote:
I am using my IBM Thinkpad with an older K1EL keyer.  The keyer is 
plugged into the back of the K3 in the keyer socket.  The USB 
connection from the K1EL keyer is hooked to the Thinkpad.  The laptop 
is hooked directly to the K3 via its serial port; yes, a true serial 
port with a DB9 connector.


Now comes the problem: Setting the com ports correctly.

It has been years since I last hooked this together and I just today 
installed N1MM onto the recently installed OS.  I know I need to set 
the com ports to get it running correctly.  One for the serial 
connection and one for the USB connection.  Reading the installation 
notes for N1MM just buries me in information when all I really need 
is a picture of which com ports to use. The last time I did this I 
just worked my way through all combinations until one magically 
worked.  Currently I don't have that kind of patience :)  Could 
anyone direct me to the short form of the instructions or give me a 
little hint as to which ports may work? By the way, the OS I am using 
on the Thinkpad is the last version of XP.


73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM setup help

[Nr4c]

Try FD. 

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 On Jun 27, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Kevin kev...@coho.net wrote:
 
 Thank you.  After I finally found this by a chance discovery you have 
 reaffirmed my effort.  Could you please tell me which template to choose for 
 Field Day?
73,
 Kevin.   KD5ONS
 
 
 On 6/27/2014 5:48 PM, Charles Tropp wrote:
 Hi Kevin,
 
 Setting up the K3 and the Winkeyer is actually pretty simple. Lets assume 
 that you have connected your K3 to your laptop on your serial port. Let's 
 also assume that you have connected your Winkeyer and that it has passed the 
 communication test. Now your serial port is probably Com1. So open N1MM make 
 sure you have the information and entry windows open. Now click on Config at 
 the top of the entry window. Then select the very first line on the drop 
 down menu called configure ports, mode control, ports, other. This will 
 open the rather intimidating configurer window. Make sure the Hardware tab 
 has been selected. Look at the first column, do you see Com1 on the left? 
 Now click the little down arrow on that line and select the Elecraft K3 from 
 the list that opens. Now push the set button on the right hand side. All 
 the suggested Elecraft K3 settings have already been set for you. Just press 
 OK down at the bottom. Now select the Winkey tab. Again, the settings have 
 alre
 ady been selected for you. Click OK at the bottom. When you do you will see 
the Winkey version appear on the Information window. Voila! You should be in 
business.
 
 Good Luck, Charles N2SO
 
 On 6/27/2014 7:04 PM, Kevin wrote:
 I am using my IBM Thinkpad with an older K1EL keyer.  The keyer is plugged 
 into the back of the K3 in the keyer socket.  The USB connection from the 
 K1EL keyer is hooked to the Thinkpad.  The laptop is hooked directly to the 
 K3 via its serial port; yes, a true serial port with a DB9 connector.
 
 Now comes the problem: Setting the com ports correctly.
 
 It has been years since I last hooked this together and I just today 
 installed N1MM onto the recently installed OS.  I know I need to set the 
 com ports to get it running correctly.  One for the serial connection and 
 one for the USB connection.  Reading the installation notes for N1MM just 
 buries me in information when all I really need is a picture of which com 
 ports to use. The last time I did this I just worked my way through all 
 combinations until one magically worked.  Currently I don't have that kind 
 of patience :)  Could anyone direct me to the short form of the 
 instructions or give me a little hint as to which ports may work? By the 
 way, the OS I am using on the Thinkpad is the last version of XP.
 
 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM setup help

[Charles Tropp via Elecraft]

Yes, sometimes, trial and error works the best Kevin. Setting up for 
field day is also very simple. First open N1MM and make sure you are at 
the entry window. Now click File at the top. Click on new database 
on the menu that opens. For a file name I would suggest ARRL Field 
Day. Now click save. Go back to File and in the menu that opens select 
the first line new log in data base. In the window that opens, up at 
the top push down on the little down arrow and scroll through the 
alphabetical list until you see FD. Click on that entry. Now in the 
contest tab below look at all the pre-filled entries to see if they 
match your proposed operation. You can explore each by clicking on the 
little drop down arrow. My entries in the order listed are: Single-Op, 
All, Low, CW, (N/A overlay), Fixed, Assisted, One. You may wish to 
consult the rules to see what applies to you. Just press the button to 
the right labeled Show Rules. Now your sent exchange should be filled 
in according to the class of station that you have and your ARRL 
section. The example already filled in may already have your section but 
not your class. Now click on the tab called Associated Files. The 
first line refers to the Master.DTA Filename. It should be Master.DTA. 
Make sure you have the latest version installed on your computer. To 
check, close out the open window by clicking on OK at the bottom. Now to 
to the tab Tools on the entry window and select download latest check 
partial file. Follow the instructions on the website to download and 
install the latest file. While you're at it also _download_ and _import_ 
the latest Country File in the Tools menu. One last thing and we're 
done. Open the N1MM website and click on the Files Tab. On the menu 
that opens select sample function key files. Then click on the CW keys.

On 6/27/2014 9:01 PM, Kevin wrote:
Thank you.  After I finally found this by a chance discovery you have 
reaffirmed my effort.  Could you please tell me which template to 
choose for Field Day?

73,
 Kevin.   KD5ONS


On 6/27/2014 5:48 PM, Charles Tropp wrote:

Hi Kevin,

Setting up the K3 and the Winkeyer is actually pretty simple. Lets 
assume that you have connected your K3 to your laptop on your serial 
port. Let's also assume that you have connected your Winkeyer and 
that it has passed the communication test. Now your serial port is 
probably Com1. So open N1MM make sure you have the information and 
entry windows open. Now click on Config at the top of the entry 
window. Then select the very first line on the drop down menu called 
configure ports, mode control, ports, other. This will open the 
rather intimidating configurer window. Make sure the Hardware tab 
has been selected. Look at the first column, do you see Com1 on the 
left? Now click the little down arrow on that line and select the 
Elecraft K3 from the list that opens. Now push the set button on 
the right hand side. All the suggested Elecraft K3 settings have 
already been set for you. Just press OK down at the bottom. Now 
select the Winkey tab. Again, the settings have already been 
selected for you. Click OK at the bottom. When you do you will see 
the Winkey version appear on the Information window. Voila! You 
should be in business.


Good Luck, Charles N2SO

On 6/27/2014 7:04 PM, Kevin wrote:
I am using my IBM Thinkpad with an older K1EL keyer.  The keyer is 
plugged into the back of the K3 in the keyer socket.  The USB 
connection from the K1EL keyer is hooked to the Thinkpad.  The 
laptop is hooked directly to the K3 via its serial port; yes, a true 
serial port with a DB9 connector.


Now comes the problem: Setting the com ports correctly.

It has been years since I last hooked this together and I just today 
installed N1MM onto the recently installed OS.  I know I need to set 
the com ports to get it running correctly.  One for the serial 
connection and one for the USB connection. Reading the installation 
notes for N1MM just buries me in information when all I really need 
is a picture of which com ports to use. The last time I did this I 
just worked my way through all combinations until one magically 
worked. Currently I don't have that kind of patience :)  Could 
anyone direct me to the short form of the instructions or give me a 
little hint as to which ports may work? By the way, the OS I am 
using on the Thinkpad is the last version of XP.


73,
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[Charles Tropp via Elecraft]

Sorry Kevin, I pressed send before I was quite done. In the CW keys 
right click on the one that reads FD-CW.mc. Download that file and save 
it to your N1MM directory. Now go back to the entry window, select file, 
open log in database, associated files, and in the CW function key 
filename line, click Change in the far right and find the sample 
function key file that you just downloaded. Click open when you find it. 
Then OK to close out the open window. Take a look at your entry window, 
see if the function keys are to your liking. If now they can be edited 
by going to Configure, change CW function key definitions. An editor 
will open and you can make the changes directly. Save the file and you 
are in business. I am sorry this took so long to explain, but it is much 
easier done than written about. With experience you will become a pro. 
If you have specific questions, do not hesitate to contact me. I am 
about done for the night but I'll be back early tomorrow. Hope to wrk 
you in FD. CUL.


73, Charles N2SO.


On 6/27/2014 9:01 PM, Kevin wrote:
Thank you.  After I finally found this by a chance discovery you have 
reaffirmed my effort.  Could you please tell me which template to 
choose for Field Day?

73,
 Kevin.   KD5ONS


On 6/27/2014 5:48 PM, Charles Tropp wrote:

Hi Kevin,

Setting up the K3 and the Winkeyer is actually pretty simple. Lets 
assume that you have connected your K3 to your laptop on your serial 
port. Let's also assume that you have connected your Winkeyer and 
that it has passed the communication test. Now your serial port is 
probably Com1. So open N1MM make sure you have the information and 
entry windows open. Now click on Config at the top of the entry 
window. Then select the very first line on the drop down menu called 
configure ports, mode control, ports, other. This will open the 
rather intimidating configurer window. Make sure the Hardware tab 
has been selected. Look at the first column, do you see Com1 on the 
left? Now click the little down arrow on that line and select the 
Elecraft K3 from the list that opens. Now push the set button on 
the right hand side. All the suggested Elecraft K3 settings have 
already been set for you. Just press OK down at the bottom. Now 
select the Winkey tab. Again, the settings have already been 
selected for you. Click OK at the bottom. When you do you will see 
the Winkey version appear on the Information window. Voila! You 
should be in business.


Good Luck, Charles N2SO

On 6/27/2014 7:04 PM, Kevin wrote:
I am using my IBM Thinkpad with an older K1EL keyer.  The keyer is 
plugged into the back of the K3 in the keyer socket.  The USB 
connection from the K1EL keyer is hooked to the Thinkpad.  The 
laptop is hooked directly to the K3 via its serial port; yes, a true 
serial port with a DB9 connector.


Now comes the problem: Setting the com ports correctly.

It has been years since I last hooked this together and I just today 
installed N1MM onto the recently installed OS.  I know I need to set 
the com ports to get it running correctly.  One for the serial 
connection and one for the USB connection. Reading the installation 
notes for N1MM just buries me in information when all I really need 
is a picture of which com ports to use. The last time I did this I 
just worked my way through all combinations until one magically 
worked. Currently I don't have that kind of patience :)  Could 
anyone direct me to the short form of the instructions or give me a 
little hint as to which ports may work? By the way, the OS I am 
using on the Thinkpad is the last version of XP.


73,
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM lack of instructions

[Gary K9GS]

Kevin,

Did you look at the Getting Started documentation at:

http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=N1MM+Logger+Documentation

It's pretty foolproof.  For specific information on interfacing with a 
K3 see:


http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Supported+Radios#K3 
http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Supported+Radios#K3



On 6/27/2014 7:59 PM, Kevin wrote:
I finally guessed the correct setup.  No searching of N1MM's 
documentation helped at all.  It was simply guessing which made the 
setup work.


Since COM1 is used by the Elecraft K3 and the Winkeyer uses COM4 I 
thought COM1 should be set as the CW port.  No, this is incorrect. It 
is solely the control port and not the CW port.  What is necessary is 
to go into setup from the Configure panel and check one box.  That box 
says Winkey.  I have yet to find this explained anywhere or by 
anyone.  It was just random chance that lead me to the dialog box I 
needed.  I picked COM4 and setup to get there. Once I checked the 
Winkey box I was able to use CW from the N1MM application.


Now how many more hours will it take before I discover how to load a 
Field Day template?  Does anyone use N1MM for a contest logger?


Kevin.  KD5ONS


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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and keying KX3. What happens to the slashes // Solved

[Don Wilhelm]

A way to simultaneously interface a paddle and computer to the KX3 --

The KX3 has two paddle inputs - one in the front for the KXPD3 and the 
other on the left end.
They can independently be set to either Hand or Paddles.  Yes, if you 
want to use the front one with anything other than the KXPD3, you will 
have to create an adapter.  Several suggestions on how to accomplish 
that can be found in the archives.
So you can end up with one input for the computer generated code and 
another for paddles.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2014 4:29 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

On 5/22/2014 12:51 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
I understand that the KX3 does not have the K-3's built in CW and PTT 
interfaces on the RS-232 port, but it is really trivial to take off 
the DTR and RTS lines from the RS-232 cable and through a couple of 
one-transistor, one-resistor interfaces to the appropriate ports


Yes, I've built several of them.  The tricky part, though, is 
simultaneously interfacing a paddle to send fills.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and keying KX3. What happens to the slashes // Solved

[Hans J Rasmusen OZ7BQ]

Thanks for the response. The solution is simple. N1MM appears no to support the 
KX3 (K2 and K3) Command Set in full.
If you want to avoid the double slashes // in callsigns, you have to use the 
standard N1MM key commands and a Keying interface like WinKeyer USB. More to 
carry if you go portable, but may be easier if you participate in a CW contest.

73 and enjoy the forthcoming WPX CW contest.
OZ7BQ Hans Jørgen (Joe).
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and keying KX3. What happens to the slashes // Solved

[Jim Brown]

On 5/22/2014 8:50 AM, Hans J Rasmusen OZ7BQ wrote:

If you want to avoid the double slashes // in callsigns, you have to use the 
standard N1MM key commands and a Keying interface like WinKeyer USB.


Does the KX3 not support CW via DTR?

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and keying KX3. What happens to the slashes // Solved

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

I understand that the KX3 does not have the K-3's built in CW and PTT 
interfaces on the RS-232 port, but it is really trivial to take off the 
DTR and RTS lines from the RS-232 cable and through a couple of 
one-transistor, one-resistor interfaces to the appropriate ports


73, Pete N4ZR
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On 5/22/2014 11:50 AM, Hans J Rasmusen OZ7BQ wrote:

Thanks for the response. The solution is simple. N1MM appears no to support the 
KX3 (K2 and K3) Command Set in full.
If you want to avoid the double slashes // in callsigns, you have to use the 
standard N1MM key commands and a Keying interface like WinKeyer USB. More to 
carry if you go portable, but may be easier if you participate in a CW contest.

73 and enjoy the forthcoming WPX CW contest.
OZ7BQ Hans Jørgen (Joe).
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and keying KX3. What happens to the slashes // Solved

[Jim Brown]

On 5/22/2014 12:51 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
I understand that the KX3 does not have the K-3's built in CW and PTT 
interfaces on the RS-232 port, but it is really trivial to take off 
the DTR and RTS lines from the RS-232 cable and through a couple of 
one-transistor, one-resistor interfaces to the appropriate ports


Yes, I've built several of them.  The tricky part, though, is 
simultaneously interfacing a paddle to send fills.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and keying KX3. What happens to the slashes // Solved

[Ross Primrose N4RP]

All it takes is a Y-adapter

73, Ross N4RP

On 5/22/2014 4:29 PM, Jim Brown wrote:


Yes, I've built several of them. The tricky part, though, is 
simultaneously interfacing a paddle to send fills.




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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and keying KX3. What happens to the slashes // Solved

[Nr4c]

Simple two by two tenth inch plugs wired to a 3.5mm inline jack for front 
paddle plug. Pinout on Fred's book. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


 On May 22, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:
 
 On 5/22/2014 12:51 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
 I understand that the KX3 does not have the K-3's built in CW and PTT 
 interfaces on the RS-232 port, but it is really trivial to take off the DTR 
 and RTS lines from the RS-232 cable and through a couple of one-transistor, 
 one-resistor interfaces to the appropriate ports
 
 Yes, I've built several of them.  The tricky part, though, is simultaneously 
 interfacing a paddle to send fills.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] N1MM and keying KX3. What happens to the slashes //

[Hans J Rasmusen OZ7BQ]

Group,

Have been using the KXUSB cable to key my KX3 from the N1MM logger with the KY 
commands. That setup works fine, however during a recent trip as OZ7BQ/P, I 
discovered, that my call was send as OZ7BQP. Same thing happens when I logged a 
station like W1AW/0, it was logged as W1AW0.
The problem can be solved by typing 2 slashes e.g. OZ7BQ//P, but the final log 
must then be filtered before use and uploading. But what is the significance of 
the slash? and is there as way around the problem?
73 de OZ7BQ, Hans Joergen (Joe).
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and keying KX3. What happens to the slashes //

[Don Wilhelm]

Joe,

Since the call is both sent and logged without the /, I would believe 
it is some condition in N1MM causing that behavior, and has nothing to 
do with the KX3.
Check the N1MM documentation (or ask on the N1MM forum) to see if the 
/ character is used as an escape character.  If it is, then entering 
two of them would be necessary to actually send and log the '/'.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/21/2014 3:05 PM, Hans J Rasmusen OZ7BQ wrote:

Group,

Have been using the KXUSB cable to key my KX3 from the N1MM logger with the KY 
commands. That setup works fine, however during a recent trip as OZ7BQ/P, I 
discovered, that my call was send as OZ7BQP. Same thing happens when I logged a 
station like W1AW/0, it was logged as W1AW0.
The problem can be solved by typing 2 slashes e.g. OZ7BQ//P, but the final log 
must then be filtered before use and uploading. But what is the significance of 
the slash? and is there as way around the problem?
73 de OZ7BQ, Hans Joergen (Joe).



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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM/K3/KX3 Programming

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Doug Ellmore Sr. d...@ellmore.net wrote:
 Through N1MM and K3 software commands, I am able to send keying messages of
 specific text from n1mm to the K3.  In order to pass variables, such as the
 other station and serial number, I need help to figure that out.

 winkeyer command example to send cq from N1MM:

 F1 RUN CQ,*cq {CQ MYCALL} {MYCALL} TEST*
 K3 Command sent to K3 on com1 from N1MM:

 F1 Run CQ,* {CATA1ASC ky cq na1dx na1dx test;}*
 What I need to do is send the variable {TX} which is the station to work

(in addition to Rich's comments:)

{TX} is not a variable, and has nothing to do with the station you're
working - rather it is a macro symbol that asserts PTT to the
transceiver. It is not necessary to assert PTT to the K3 utilise the
KY command.

http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Macrosstructure=N1MM+Logger+Documentation

73,

~iain / N6ML
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[Elecraft] N1MM/K3/KX3 Programming

[Doug Ellmore Sr.]

Through N1MM and K3 software commands, I am able to send keying messages of
specific text from n1mm to the K3.  In order to pass variables, such as the
other station and serial number, I need help to figure that out.

winkeyer command example to send cq from N1MM:

F1 RUN CQ,*cq {CQ MYCALL} {MYCALL} TEST*
K3 Command sent to K3 on com1 from N1MM:

F1 Run CQ,* {CATA1ASC ky cq na1dx na1dx test;}*
What I need to do is send the variable {TX} which is the station to work

WinKeyer Example:

F5 His Call,*{TX} ! de {MYCALL} {SENTRST} {EXCH} {EXCH} {MYCALL} TU k {RX}*

F5 His Call,* {CATA1ASC KY **{TX} ! **de {MYCALL} {SENTRST} {EXCH} {EXCH}
{MYCALL} TU k {RX};*


Is there a way you can escape from literal text to allow N1MM to pass text
from the variable {TX} and {EXCHANGE} as an example?

In my prior life doing programming with some weird languages, I remember
putting like an  or other special character to say don't use the following
text literally but capture the values out of a variable.

If you could, then you would not need a winkeyer or PSK/FSK/AFSK RTTY
sending device ever connected to the KX3/K3 for those modes.

You could use a sound card to assist in decoding or do like NaP3 does and
capture the output of the built in decoder.

73,
-- 
Doug Ellmore, Sr.
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM/K3/KX3 Programming

[Richard Ferch]

This question would more properly have been sent to the N1MM Logger user 
group.


Be that as it may, the answer is yes, at least in CW mode, provided you 
use the correct N1MM Logger command syntax (see the online documentation).


With a Winkeyer or serial or parallel port CW keying, or (in the case of 
the K3) with CW keying on DTR of the radio control port (this is not 
available with the KX3), the function key command to send the other 
station's call sign followed by 5NN, the rest of the contest exchange 
and your own call sign would be:


F2 Ex,{CALL} 5NN {EXCH} {MYCALL}

If you want to do this using the K3/KX3's internal keyer, the 
corresponding function key command would be:


F2 Ex,{CAT1ASC KY {CALL} 5NN {EXCH} {MYCALL};}

The space between the KY and the first character in the actual message 
is required by the K3/KX3 command syntax, as is the semicolon at the end 
of the message.


There are several limitations to this method:

1. Once the function key containing one of these messages has been 
pressed, you cannot interrupt the message from N1MM Logger, i.e. 
pressing the Esc key will have no effect. You can only interrupt a 
message in progress by pressing the XMIT button on the radio's front panel.


2. The CW speed using this method is controlled from the radio's front 
panel SPEED control, not from N1MM Logger. N1MM Logger's CW speed 
control macros and the PgUp/PgDn keys will not work with this method.


3. If you like to use auto CQ repeat in N1MM Logger, the repeat interval 
has to be longer than the duration of your CQ message at the slowest CW 
speed you use. If you change CW speeds, a repeat interval that is 
appropriate for the slowest CW speed will likely be longer than you 
would like at higher speeds.


4. The maximum number of characters that can be sent in such a message 
is 24. Note that this is the number of Morse code characters the message 
is converted to, not a count of the number of characters in the N1MM 
Logger command. Therefore you need to design your messages so that they 
will take no more than 24 characters with the longest call sign and 
exchange you are likely to need during the contest.


5. You can only put one of these CAT1ASC macro commands in each function 
key message.


6. You cannot send ad lib Morse code this way, i.e. the Ctrl+K command 
to send keyboard CW does not work with this method.


There may be other limitations; these are the ones that occur to me 
offhand. I have tested this in CW and verified that it works. It will 
not work in AFSK A; I am not sure whether it will work in FSK D.


73,
Rich VE3KI


NA1DX wrote:


Through N1MM and K3 software commands, I am able to send keying messages of
specific text from n1mm to the K3.  In order to pass variables, such as the
other station and serial number, I need help to figure that out.


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[Elecraft] n1mm k2

[Robert 'RC' Conley]

In trying to set up my K2 using N1MM I keep getting port config errors
and nothing seems to help. Any suggestions?

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Re: [Elecraft] n1mm k2

[Ian Kahn]

Robert,

What port do you have N1MM and your radio talking to?  Is any other
software (rig control, logging, etc.) using that same port when you try to
configure N1MM?

Thank you and 73.

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Robert 'RC' Conley rc.kc...@gmail.comwrote:

 In trying to set up my K2 using N1MM I keep getting port config errors
 and nothing seems to help. Any suggestions?

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[Elecraft] N1MM Macro's for the KX3 Digital Voice Recorder.

[KD3TB]

With the Announcement of the new KX3 Firmware that activates the DVK. I have
listed below an example of N1MM Macro's that I am using. In this example, F1
will key Memory 1 and F2 will key Memory 2. F3 will Tune the KX3 and F4 turn
VOX on and off. 


F1 CQ,{CATA1ASC SWT11;} {CATA1ASC SWT19;}
F2 Exch,{CATA1ASC SWT11;} {CATA1ASC SWT27;}
F3 ATU, {CATA1ASC SWT44;} 
F4 VOX, {CATA1ASC SWT29;}

Additional code can be found in the K3/KX3 Programmers reference manual
(http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3KX3%20Pgmrs%20Ref,%20E2.pdf) , Table # 8
- Page 23.  

These macros can be entered in N1MM under Config/Change CW/SSB/Digital
Function Key Definitions - Change SSB Function Key Definitions.

This is a great addition to the KX3 for both Dx'ing and Contesting. Our
thanks to the Elecraft Team.

Regards, Irwin KD3TB

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 8:14 PM
To: k...@yahoogroups.com; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 BETA firmware release (rev 1.34) -- Digital Voice
Recorder (DVR)

KX3 beta firmware rev 1.34 (with DSP rev 1.04) is now available. This
release includes the new DVR feature, with two transmit messages of up to 15
seconds each. See full instructions in the release notes below.

(By the way, I'd like to thank Lyle, KK7P, for his efforts in getting the
KX3's DSP to access flash memory efficiently for DVR purposes. He had to
rewrite a lot of the DSP manufacturer's own access routines. I think he
achieved some of this while on vacation...don't tell his XYL.)

You'll need the KX3 Utility application to download and install firmware.
For full instructions, refer to our KX3 software page:

http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/KX3_software.htm

Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 1.34 / DSP 1.04, 12-31-2012

* DVR (DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER) ADDED: There are two transmit messages of up
to 15 seconds each. Message chaining and other message-length options will
be added in a future release.

Setup: Make sure you're in a voice mode, and that the voice MONitor level is
not zero. Typical MON level is 5-10. Message record and play will work with
either VOX or PTT selected.

To record, hold REC, then tap #1 or #2. ERASING will appear for 4 seconds,
followed by TAP XMT. Tap XMIT, then start speaking. To end recording, tap
XMIT again.

To play, tap MSG followed by a tap of #1 or #2.

To play with auto-repeat (e.g., a repeating CQ message), *hold* rather than
tap the #1 or #2 switch. Use MENU:MSG RPT to set the repeat interval.






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[Elecraft] N1MM Setup

[Tony McClenny]

Although I have used it before, cannot seem to setup my K3 with N1MM so that
it keys the rig - annoying - help would be appreciated.  Thank you in
advance.

 

The program indicates No CW port is setup in config.

 

Configurer shows port 8 with checkmark in CW box - perhaps my settings in
the COM8 box are wrong?

 

Using RS-232 cable from computer with virtual software on port 8 - other
programs work on this port.  

 

Sound cables from computer to radio work for all modes using other software.

 

OE for certain.

 

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Setup

[Gary K9GS]

Hello Tony,

Last night I changed over from a true RS232 CAT interface to a USB to 
Serial port converter.  I had all kinds of problems with N1MM and 
Logger32 not recognizing the new set-up.  Then I re-booted the computer 
and all worked great.

You didn't say what you're using for a CW interface...I use WinKey. You 
can also use a single cable for CAT and CW keying.  I used this once for 
a contest and it worked well.  Here's how:

***
At Dayton I heard rumors that the K3 (and the KX3) could send CW in N1MM 
Contesting program with no need for a second control line (RS-232 or 
Interface to key through the key jack). I searched the K3 mailing list 
and found this from Joe, W4TV:

You can use a standard USB to serial adapter to do PTT and CW with the
K3 with no other interface. Set the K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY menu item to
rtS-dtr, check CW/Other on the Radio port in N1MM, set DTR = CW, set
RTS=PTT and *UNCHECK* all of the PTT via Radio Command options.

The degree to which CW operates cleanly depends on other processes in
your computer. You may or may not be happy with the results... 

This weekend for the CQ WPX CW I tried it and it worked flawlessly!

I have done a screen capture of the configuration screen in N1MM and 
posted it at:
http://www.k8zt.com/K3_Keying_CW_with_N1MM.jpg

***

I don't know if this will help but it's worth a shot.


On 10/31/2012 8:26 PM, Tony McClenny wrote:
 Although I have used it before, cannot seem to setup my K3 with N1MM so that
 it keys the rig - annoying - help would be appreciated.  Thank you in
 advance.

   

 The program indicates No CW port is setup in config.

   

 Configurer shows port 8 with checkmark in CW box - perhaps my settings in
 the COM8 box are wrong?

   

 Using RS-232 cable from computer with virtual software on port 8 - other
 programs work on this port.

   

 Sound cables from computer to radio work for all modes using other software.

   

 OE for certain.

   

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[Elecraft] N1MM with K-3

[Jim McCook]

On a recent post I discussed the need to use a memory to return to the 
bottom of a CW band without changing the SUB frequency.  While using 
N1MM the best answer seems to be to use a zero in the entry window or 
clicking on band bottom with the bandmap.  However, this changes the CW 
REV to CW (using LSB tuning).  For me this requires a hold of the ALT to 
return to what I think is normal (USB tuning).  I've never understood 
the desire to use LSB tuning, but I guess some folks like that method.  
I'm trying to figure out how to NOT change the CW REV by this method, or 
by changing the K-3 so normal CW mode is USB tuning like I think it 
should be.

Any ideas?

I still hope for an option for a memory to only affect the MAIN receiver 
and NOT THE SUB.  I also wish for the amplifier key line to be disabled 
when PTT is not activated.  This remains a huge flaw with me and with 
all my friends, especially those who use the lockout feature when 
running M/S.

73, Jim
W6YA
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM with K-3

[K4ia]

I have found in SP that I like the pitch to start high and come down as I tune 
closer. It makes it easier to hear the signal coming.   Thus, the need to be 
on a different side depending on if I am tuning up or down.  

Craig Buck

On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Jim McCook w...@cox.net wrote:

 On a recent post I discussed the need to use a memory to return to the 
 bottom of a CW band without changing the SUB frequency.  While using 
 N1MM the best answer seems to be to use a zero in the entry window or 
 clicking on band bottom with the bandmap.  However, this changes the CW 
 REV to CW (using LSB tuning).  For me this requires a hold of the ALT to 
 return to what I think is normal (USB tuning).  I've never understood 
 the desire to use LSB tuning, but I guess some folks like that method.  
 I'm trying to figure out how to NOT change the CW REV by this method, or 
 by changing the K-3 so normal CW mode is USB tuning like I think it 
 should be.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 I still hope for an option for a memory to only affect the MAIN receiver 
 and NOT THE SUB.  I also wish for the amplifier key line to be disabled 
 when PTT is not activated.  This remains a huge flaw with me and with 
 all my friends, especially those who use the lockout feature when 
 running M/S.
 
 73, Jim
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM with K-3

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 While using N1MM the best answer seems to be to use a zero in the
 entry window or clicking on band bottom with the bandmap. However,
 this changes the CW REV to CW (using LSB tuning).

In N1MM ... Configurer - Other check user Reverse CW Radio 1.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 12/11/2011 2:08 PM, Jim McCook wrote:
 On a recent post I discussed the need to use a memory to return to the
 bottom of a CW band without changing the SUB frequency.  While using
 N1MM the best answer seems to be to use a zero in the entry window or
 clicking on band bottom with the bandmap.  However, this changes the CW
 REV to CW (using LSB tuning).  For me this requires a hold of the ALT to
 return to what I think is normal (USB tuning).  I've never understood
 the desire to use LSB tuning, but I guess some folks like that method.
 I'm trying to figure out how to NOT change the CW REV by this method, or
 by changing the K-3 so normal CW mode is USB tuning like I think it
 should be.

 Any ideas?

 I still hope for an option for a memory to only affect the MAIN receiver
 and NOT THE SUB.  I also wish for the amplifier key line to be disabled
 when PTT is not activated.  This remains a huge flaw with me and with
 all my friends, especially those who use the lockout feature when
 running M/S.

 73, Jim
 W6YA
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM with K-3

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

Jim, in N1MM (this is an N1MM logger setting and has nothing to do with the
K3), on the entry window, click config tab, click configure ports, then
in the configurer window, click other tab, put a check mark in box for
Use Reverse CW Radio 1.   N1MM sets CW or CW REV based on what is in this
check box whenever it issues a direct frequency command of any kind, like
direct entry in call window, or going to spots, etc.

Why is it we are so bent on assuming all issues require a change to the K3?
 Is it because Wayne is responsive?  Actually N1MM guys are remarkably
responsive considering they do the whole thing for ZERO pay.

73, Guy.

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Jim McCook w...@cox.net wrote:

 On a recent post I discussed the need to use a memory to return to the
 bottom of a CW band without changing the SUB frequency.  While using
 N1MM the best answer seems to be to use a zero in the entry window or
 clicking on band bottom with the bandmap.  However, this changes the CW
 REV to CW (using LSB tuning).  For me this requires a hold of the ALT to
 return to what I think is normal (USB tuning).  I've never understood
 the desire to use LSB tuning, but I guess some folks like that method.
 I'm trying to figure out how to NOT change the CW REV by this method, or
 by changing the K-3 so normal CW mode is USB tuning like I think it
 should be.

 Any ideas?

 I still hope for an option for a memory to only affect the MAIN receiver
 and NOT THE SUB.  I also wish for the amplifier key line to be disabled
 when PTT is not activated.  This remains a huge flaw with me and with
 all my friends, especially those who use the lockout feature when
 running M/S.

 73, Jim
 W6YA
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM with K-3

[Jim McCook]

Joe, Guy,

Thanks for the answer.  That's what I was looking for in N1MM, but 
missed it.



Guy, there are things that some of us still feel would be an improvement 
for the K-3:

1. No amp keying until PTT is activated
2. Have at least the _option_ to have memories only affect the MAIN, not 
the SUB.

My original search _was_ to find the solution in N1MM.  I just 
overlooked it.

Thanks again,

Jim
W6YA
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Re: [Elecraft] [N1MM] Re: [K3] K3 N1MM Problem

[Pete Smith]

Chyeck to make sure that you have enabled only one PTT method.  This is 
a known problem when more than one is selected.  I use Winkey PTT, and 
never have to worry about it.

73, Pete N4ZR

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On 11/7/2011 12:07 PM, gdaug...@stanford.edu wrote:
 John wrote...

 While doing Sweep Stakes this weekend, I ran into a K3/N1MM problem:
 When I interrupted a running CW message (like a CQ) with either an
 Escape or a keyboard entry, the K3 would stay in Transmit (Red TX led
 illuminated, no receiver). I had to push the Transmit button to return
 to Receive. I don't recall having this occur in the past.

 Has anyone seen this and know how to fix it?
 It happens to me frequently, exactly as you describe it.  I don't know if 
 it's a K3
 glitch, or an N1MMLogger glitch.  It's the ONLY problem I have with the
 combination.

 Do I know how to fix it?  Nope.

 73,

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Re: [Elecraft] [N1MM] Re: [microHAM] Re: K3/ Microkeyer/N1MM lockup at FD

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 N1MM Logger only sets Winkey PTT for SSB. For CW, the Winkey PTT is
 set automatically by the Winkey chip, based on data in the buffer,
 not by any N1MM Logger command.

Interesting ... then there is still another source of PTT being set -
perhaps RTS on a separate serial port.  In any case, with both the
K3 and CW Keyer showing PTT independently (no hardware PTT cable
between the two) it appears that the logger is not releasing PTT.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 6/28/2011 10:56 AM, Steve London wrote:
 On 06/28/2011 08:37 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


 I'm concerned because you indicated that the CW Keyer PTT LED was
 lit. Even though you did not have a PTT line connected between the
 CW Keyer and K3, that tells me that N1MM had sent the WinKey PTT On
 command (and the K3 TX1; command) and did not send the PTT OFF
 commands when you hit the key. The fact that *BOTH* (potential)
 sources of PTT were engaged would point to an N1MM timing issue -
 I can't see both devices missing the PTT Off commands.

 N1MM Logger only sets Winkey PTT for SSB. For CW, the Winkey PTT is set
 automatically by the Winkey chip, based on data in the buffer, not by
 any N1MM Logger command.

 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] [N1MM] Re: [microHAM] Re: K3/ Microkeyer/N1MM lockup at FD

[Buck - k4ia]

That confuses me - how does the Winkey chip send PTT based on data in 
the buffer?  Is there a setting I am missing?

Buck
k4ia


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 lit.  Even though you did not have a PTT line connected between the
 CW Keyer and K3, that tells me that N1MM had sent the WinKey PTT On
 command (and the K3 TX1; command) and did not send the PTT OFF
 commands when you hit the key.  The fact that *BOTH* (potential)
 sources of PTT were engaged would point to an N1MM timing issue -
 I can't see both devices missing the PTT Off commands.
 N1MM Logger only sets Winkey PTT for SSB. For CW, the Winkey PTT is set
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and K3 always on transmit problem

[nr4c]

Yes. You have PTT or KEY(CW) configured wrong. maybe try to start N1MM  
without the K3 on. Find these settings and verify the configuration.  
Also check your cabling. Might try unplugging all cables and  
re-connecting one by one.


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Quoting dbellw...@aol.com:

 I switched computers and now, just getting N1MM on screen causes the K3 to
 transmit. The K3 works as usual with N1MM off and vice versa. Phone or
 CW, VOX on or off, no matter. When N1MM and the K3 are on together, the K3
 is in transmit.

 Any help?

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[Elecraft] N1MM and K3 always on transmit problem

[DBellW6AQ]

I switched computers and now, just getting N1MM on screen causes the K3 to  
transmit.  The K3 works as usual with N1MM off and vice versa.  Phone  or 
CW, VOX on or off, no matter.  When N1MM and the K3 are on together, the  K3 
is in transmit.
 
Any help?
 
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and K3 always on transmit problem

[Iain MacDonnell - N6ML]

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 5:21 AM,  dbellw...@aol.com wrote:
 I switched computers and now, just getting N1MM on screen causes the K3 to
 transmit.  The K3 works as usual with N1MM off and vice versa.  Phone  or
 CW, VOX on or off, no matter.  When N1MM and the K3 are on together, the  K3
 is in transmit.

Two ways to fix this (pick one).

* In N1MM Logger, Config -Configure Ports - Hardware , click the
Set button next to the K3's COM port and change DTR and RTS to
Always Off.

* On the K3, set CONFIG:ptt-key to off-off

Alternatively, you can actually use the RTS and DTR lines on the COM
port for PTT and CW keying, if you want, by configuring them to match.

~Iain / N6ML
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[Elecraft] N1MM macros for KDVR

[Dick Frey]

In last year's SSB SS, when my K3 was a month old, I used function key
macros from N1MM to
'hit' the message memory buttons on the panel.

Each was in the form of:

F1 CQ,{cat1asc swt39;}
F2 Exch,{cat1asc swt35;}

Now they do not work. Has something changed?
Using N1MM V10.10.1  on Com 1. nothing fancy.
k3 #3471
(read from K3 Util)
22:53:43 K3 Utility Version 1.2.12.28
22:53:43 OS Version 5.1 Build 2600 Windows XP
22:53:43 Serial Port COM1 is open
22:53:43 Polling K3
22:53:44 K3 MCU version 04.05. COM1 RS-232 speed 9600 bps

Any ideas?


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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM macros for KDVR

[Iain MacDonnell - N6ML]

Dick,

See http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3

Let me know if it still doesn't work for you ...

~Iain / N6ML


On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Dick Frey k4xu.1...@gmail.com wrote:
 In last year's SSB SS, when my K3 was a month old, I used function key
 macros from N1MM to
 'hit' the message memory buttons on the panel.

 Each was in the form of:

 F1 CQ,{cat1asc swt39;}
 F2 Exch,{cat1asc swt35;}

 Now they do not work. Has something changed?
 Using N1MM V10.10.1  on Com 1. nothing fancy.
 k3 #3471
 (read from K3 Util)
 22:53:43 K3 Utility Version 1.2.12.28
 22:53:43 OS Version 5.1 Build 2600 Windows XP
 22:53:43 Serial Port COM1 is open
 22:53:43 Polling K3
 22:53:44 K3 MCU version 04.05. COM1 RS-232 speed 9600 bps

 Any ideas?


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