Re: [expert] apache help needed!!!

2000-04-17 Thread Jean-Michel Dault


I have these permissions for bash:
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root  9 Mar 16 10:17 /bin/sh -> /bin/bash*  

And nobody has these settings:
nobody:x:99:99:Nobody:/: 

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On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Vincent Danen wrote:

> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:23:00 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jean-Michel Dault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Linux Mandrake Expert Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [expert] apache help needed!!!
> 
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
> 
> > Vincent, can you send me your httpd.conf and the files that you are having
> > problem with? It's really a strange bug, it must be such a small minor
> > detail...
> 
> I think I found the problem, but I'm unsure of how to fix it.  Maybe you
> can help me with it...
> 
> When I try to su nobody, I get /bin/sh permission denied.  I think that's
> the source of my problem.  On this machine I can su to nobody just fine,
> but not on the server.  I don't even know where to begin looking for
> permissions for user nobody and why it can't use /bin/sh or
> /bin/bash.  Permissions on directories and files between both computers
> are identical.
> 
> Any ideas on how I can fix this?  I don't think it's a problem with apache
> anymore... I'm sure it's the user that is the problem, but for the life of
> me I can't figure out why it was working yesterday and it isn't today
> (unless installing ircd had something to do with it...)
> 
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Re: [expert] apache help needed!!!

2000-04-17 Thread Jean-Michel Dault


Vincent, can you send me your httpd.conf and the files that you are having
problem with? It's really a strange bug, it must be such a small minor
detail...

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On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Vincent Danen wrote:

> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:42:30 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Linux Mandrake Expert Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [expert] apache help needed!!!
> 
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
> 
> > It looks like a SuExec problem. Either remove apache-suexec or chown
> > nobody.nobody these files.
> 
> Tried chowning them, didn't work.  Same error.  Tried removing
> apache-suexec and I get the same thing.  Even restarted apache, same
> deal.  I did notice in my /var/log/httpd/suexec_log the following:
> 
> [2000-04-17 08:22:25]: too few arguments
> 
> listed twice (different timestamps tho).  Any idea if that might be
> linked?  Mind you, with apache-suexec gone now, it shouldn't matter...
> 
> > Give me some news!
> 
> As of right now, still doesn't work.  Can't run CGI scripts or SSI exec
> commands (have a perl-based banner rotation program that won't run).
> 
> > > In a SSI file (banner.shtml).  It won't run any of my other CGI scripts
> > > either, nor will PHP include statements work either.  Does anyone know
> > > what might be going on here?  It was all working yesterday and now it
> > > isn't and I haven't touched anything.  I'm extremely confused as to why
> > > this won't work!
> > > 
> > > For the PHP3 includes, if it's a local file
> > > (ie. include("/home/httpd/html/text/footer.txt");) it works fine, but if
> > > it's something like include("http://bla.bla/whatever.php3"); it doesn't
> > > work anymore.  I'm seriously confused here.  I think it's a permission
> > > problem, but I don't understand why it hasn't happened before
> > > then.  Everything is owned by root.root and the pages come up ok if I view
> > > them by themselves, but as includes they don't work anymore.
> > > 
> > > I'm using the latest AES RPMs.  Help!
> 
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Re: [expert] RPC-program not registered

2000-04-17 Thread Charles Curley

On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 02:30:18PM +0200, Hans Schneidhofer wrote:
-> hi Ron
-> and the mandrake-linux-community,
-> 
-> have resolved the problem : rpc:program not registered
-> 
-> portmap, nfs-utils and nfs-utils-clients was succesfully installed during
-> update and/or install-process. But one of the bad bags, which has happend, was
-> : nfs have been deactivated during installation/updateprocess. 

Odd, I have the same problem, though not caused by an upgrade but a crash
on power fail. I restarted nfs on both boxes, and no joy.


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RE: [expert] Intel Chip Types (was) Mandrake sub-optimized for i6 86?

2000-04-17 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> OK... so the 786 is the PII and the 886 is the PIII. If the 586 is the
> original Pentium, where does the 686 come in? Is that the MMX-enabled
> series? I am getting ready to compile some kernels and I am curious.
> 
686 == Pentium Pro.
John



Re: [expert] Network card causes modem to disappear

2000-04-17 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> 
> As I understand it, the modem gets configured to IRQ 10 during power-on by 
> the PCI gubbins, so there's no way to control that.
>
It's a PCI modem???  Do this...go look and make SURE you
don't have to add any extra software for it to work under
Windows. Have you tried dialing out from a plain, F8 boot?
(i.e. at the boot prompt, hit your F8 key to NOT load *any*
drivers.) I'm not sure how you'd do this with LILO. Maybe
just have a generic Dos / Windows boot floppy with
command.com on it and boot off that? 
Anyway, once you've gotten to a no-drivers-loaded boot,
type "echo atdt[some-phone] >comX" (where X=com port of
your alleged modem.)
AFAIK, there is ALMOST no such thing as a PCI modem which
is NOT a WinModem. I think you got ripped.
>
> And it really does work perfectly without the
> network card in there; my  > understanding is that a
> WinModem wouldn't be accessible at all, since there  >
> wouldn't be a driver for it anywhere in the system. > 
> Yes? No?
> 
That's the theory anyway...
John



Re: [expert] apache help needed!!!

2000-04-17 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:

> It looks like a SuExec problem. Either remove apache-suexec or chown
> nobody.nobody these files.

Tried chowning them, didn't work.  Same error.  Tried removing
apache-suexec and I get the same thing.  Even restarted apache, same
deal.  I did notice in my /var/log/httpd/suexec_log the following:

[2000-04-17 08:22:25]: too few arguments

listed twice (different timestamps tho).  Any idea if that might be
linked?  Mind you, with apache-suexec gone now, it shouldn't matter...

> Give me some news!

As of right now, still doesn't work.  Can't run CGI scripts or SSI exec
commands (have a perl-based banner rotation program that won't run).

> > In a SSI file (banner.shtml).  It won't run any of my other CGI scripts
> > either, nor will PHP include statements work either.  Does anyone know
> > what might be going on here?  It was all working yesterday and now it
> > isn't and I haven't touched anything.  I'm extremely confused as to why
> > this won't work!
> > 
> > For the PHP3 includes, if it's a local file
> > (ie. include("/home/httpd/html/text/footer.txt");) it works fine, but if
> > it's something like include("http://bla.bla/whatever.php3"); it doesn't
> > work anymore.  I'm seriously confused here.  I think it's a permission
> > problem, but I don't understand why it hasn't happened before
> > then.  Everything is owned by root.root and the pages come up ok if I view
> > them by themselves, but as includes they don't work anymore.
> > 
> > I'm using the latest AES RPMs.  Help!

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Re: [expert] Re: The right way to do a private network

2000-04-17 Thread Charles Curley

On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 10:37:04AM -0600, Daniel Woods wrote:
-> 
-> > Assuming your ISP is providing you with only a single IP address, you want
-> > something along these lines:
-> > 
-> > ++
-> > | Comp B |---\+---+
-> > ++\---| H |  ++ +---+
-> >   | u |--| Comp A |-| Modem |
-> > ++/---| b |  ++ +---+
-> > | Comp C |---/+---+
-> > ++ 
-> > 
-> > Comp A is your Linux box. The network card in A connected to your
-> > cable/xDSL modem is assigned the external address supplied by your ISP
-> > (static or DHCP).  You'll need to use ipchains on this box so that it acts
-> > as a gateway for the LAN.
-> > 
-> > Comp B and Comp C are you Windows or ther Linux boxes.
-> 
-> I have not set this up yet, however I don't have a "Comp A" (yet).
-> Right now Comp B (mdk6.1 - development machine) and Comp C (win98 - kids
-> machine) will be hooked up to my new 100 Mps *switch*, and the modem
-> downloads at up to 7 Mps (2 Mps upload - so they say).
-> 
-> What is the recommended minimum speed/memory for Comp A ?
-> Is a P75/90 with 64 MB enough ?  Will this affect the speed noticed
-> by Comp B and C when using the internet ?  Does any of this not matter
-> as long as Comp A's network card is at least 10 Mps ?

Overkill, actually. I use a 486/dx66 with 16 MB of physical memory. You
might be able to get away with a 386/25, I haven't tried it.



-> 
-> If I wanted to have a web server running (or ftp, mail, news), can
-> it be on Comp B instead of Comp A ?  I know the ISPs don't like this.
-> I take it that Comp A would have to have some kind of proxy server
-> to forward the request to the private web server on Comp B.
-> If I started to get many web hits, would the speed and memory of
-> Comp A affect users, or is it affected by the speed of Comp B ?
-> Does opening up Comp B's port 80 (web) create a security risk 
-> (or is it if you use a proxy server - recommendations) ?

Think security. Stuff the outside world will see should be on the firewall
only. The fewer open ports on the firewall, the more secure it it. And if
the outside world can see a service, someone will try to crack it.

Also why route data across your internal network if you don't need
to?

Unless you are on a T1, any old Pentium class computer should do it.


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Re: [expert] Troubles With Partitions

2000-04-17 Thread Charles Curley

On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 11:24:29AM -0400, Stephen F. Bosch wrote:
-> Charles Curley wrote:
-> > 
-> > -> The NTFS driver works fine in Linux.  The _read_ driver, that is.  I
-> > -> haven't tried the 2.3 writeable driver.  It's marked *DANGEROUS* in the
-> > -> kernel config, though, so don't use it on any volume containing anything
-> > -> you can't afford to lose.
-> > ->
-> > -> NTFS has advantages over FAT, too: it's journaled (no filesystem checks
-> > -> after a crash), it can handle volume sizes up to 4GB, it's faster, and...
-> > -> hmm, well, I guess that's about it.
-> > 
-> 
-> > It is, however, proprietary and undocumented,
-> 
-> That's for extra *security*
-> 
-> *laughs*
-> 
-> -Stephen-

Yes. Microsoft's.

And that of certain programmers at Microsoft.

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Re: [expert] vmware and cable modem IP assignment

2000-04-17 Thread Bug Hunter


  You only have one ip address through your cable modem.  Therefore, you
can't use 2 ip addresses on your machine that are in the same ip
addressing scheme as the cable modem ip address.

 Enable masquerading, and give yourself a 10.0.0.x or a 172.16.1.x or a
192.168.1.x address pool.  Then enable IPV4 forwarding and IP
masquerading. You will be using your linux box as a firewall/NAT
translator, and it should allow you to surf the net from both vmware and
linux simultaneously.

bug

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Daniel Woods wrote:

> 
> I am not getting much help on this from vmware folks. Although
> someone here might have run into the same problem given all this
> talk with private network and IP Masq.
> 
> I have VMware working fine at work such that I can open up a
> linux or win9x guest OS and either of them *and* the host can
> access network functions (telnet, browser).  This is most likely
> because DHCP allows me to have more than one IP assigned.
> 
> However at home with my cable modem ISP only allowing *one* IP,
> it seems that when I use a guest OS, the host is frozen out
> of any network ability... and vice versa.  The cable modem is
> currently hooked up directly to my PC with no IP masquing.
> The guest does appear to receive a new DHCP generated IP from
> the ISP which is different than that of the host.
> 
> Is the problem indeed because of the ISP's DHCP allocation.
> Is there not a way for me to make the guest OS be given private
> IP numbers ?  Once I were to setup IP masquing, would this then
> allow VMware to generate private IPs for the guest OS as well ?
> 
> Thanks... Dan.
> 




[expert] boot error

2000-04-17 Thread Fabio Rossi

Dear all,
every time I boot my linux I've got this error message and I do not know
where it cames from:

Checking for new hardware
/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S05kudzu: line 46 : 156 Segmentation fault
/usr/sbin/kudzu -t 30

Does anybody has anxplanation ???
Thanks in advance
Fabio





Re: [expert] Dependency Help!!

2000-04-17 Thread Jean-Michel Dault


libcrypto comes from openssl, and libstdc++ comes from libstdc++, of
course =)

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On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Orlando Lewis wrote:

> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:33:50 -0400
> From: Orlando Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [expert] Dependency Help!!
> 
> Where can I find the following dependencies and/or what packages do they 
> come with?  I am using RH 6.1
> 
> libstdc++_libc6.1-2.so.0
> libcrypto.so.0
> 
> TIA
> 




Re: [expert] apache help needed!!!

2000-04-17 Thread Jean-Michel Dault


It looks like a SuExec problem. Either remove apache-suexec or chown
nobody.nobody these files.

Give me some news!

Jean-Michel Dault
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Vincent Danen wrote:

> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:13:09 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Linux Mandrake Expert Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [expert] apache help needed!!!
> 
> I'm having some serious problems with apache and they just started
> today...
> 
> In my error_log file I keep getting:
> 
> httpd: exec of /bin/sh failed, reason: Permission denied (errno = 13)
> 
> In a SSI file (banner.shtml).  It won't run any of my other CGI scripts
> either, nor will PHP include statements work either.  Does anyone know
> what might be going on here?  It was all working yesterday and now it
> isn't and I haven't touched anything.  I'm extremely confused as to why
> this won't work!
> 
> For the PHP3 includes, if it's a local file
> (ie. include("/home/httpd/html/text/footer.txt");) it works fine, but if
> it's something like include("http://bla.bla/whatever.php3"); it doesn't
> work anymore.  I'm seriously confused here.  I think it's a permission
> problem, but I don't understand why it hasn't happened before
> then.  Everything is owned by root.root and the pages come up ok if I view
> them by themselves, but as includes they don't work anymore.
> 
> I'm using the latest AES RPMs.  Help!
> 
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[expert] vmware and cable modem IP assignment

2000-04-17 Thread Daniel Woods


I am not getting much help on this from vmware folks. Although
someone here might have run into the same problem given all this
talk with private network and IP Masq.

I have VMware working fine at work such that I can open up a
linux or win9x guest OS and either of them *and* the host can
access network functions (telnet, browser).  This is most likely
because DHCP allows me to have more than one IP assigned.

However at home with my cable modem ISP only allowing *one* IP,
it seems that when I use a guest OS, the host is frozen out
of any network ability... and vice versa.  The cable modem is
currently hooked up directly to my PC with no IP masquing.
The guest does appear to receive a new DHCP generated IP from
the ISP which is different than that of the host.

Is the problem indeed because of the ISP's DHCP allocation.
Is there not a way for me to make the guest OS be given private
IP numbers ?  Once I were to setup IP masquing, would this then
allow VMware to generate private IPs for the guest OS as well ?

Thanks... Dan.



Re: [expert] OT: Perfect operating system

2000-04-17 Thread Vic

I used to use an old version of unix that
ran on ( if I remember correctly) a "century 2100"
or something like that, it loaded the os
with a cassette, hehehe and the 
disc cartridges were 15-20 inches
in diameter, whew!

You had to press 'halt' then 'run' then 'load'.
proprietary buttons on the mainframe, then
when it booted, you still had to type
loados at the terminal before
getting a login prompt.



On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Deryk Barker mewed:
> Thus spake Brian T. Schellenberger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > 
> > Sorry, I know it's off-topic *and* it's dead, but it's not all *that*
> > off-topic.
> > 
> > As I said, I rather liked AmigaDOS; it's connection with Unix is that it
> > was based on the BCPL language, which was a sibling of the C language on
> > which Unix was based, both being decendents of B.
> 
> At the risk of going further off topic:
> 
> BCPL was created c1965 by Martin Richards as an implementable subset
> of Strachey's CPL.
> 
> B was essentially BCPL with {} for the block delimiters instead of $(
> and $) (ASCII was fairly uncommon in 1965).
> 
> C was derived from B by Dennis Ritchie for the reimplementation of
> Unix c1971.
> [...]
> > Multics inspired Unix with a combination of admiration and revulsion by
> > Kernighan and Pike (?);
> 
> The original Unix (spelled Unics BTW) was developed by Ken
> Thompson. I'm not sure who this Pike is.
> 
> BTW Thompson and Ritchie had both worked on the Multics project at
> Bell Labs.
> 
> > admiration for the consistency and elegance and
> > revulsion at the size, complexity, and resource requirements.
> > 
> > The first Unix system I used supported 16 simultaneous users on a single
> > CPU with 128K (which was the largest machine on which Unix ran at the
> > time--a PDD 11/70 with split I&D).  Of course even *vi* had been
> > disabled as being too resource intensive . . .
> 
> And I can recall a benchmark of a dual CPU Multics system with c1MB
> supporting 200 users. Compare to today's Unices Multics was a resource
> miser.
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Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Corbeil

Stephen F. Bosch wrote:

> Mike Corbeil wrote:
> >
> > Stephen F. Bosch wrote:
> >
> > > Matt Stegman wrote:
> > >
> > > > No, startx does not start kdm.  startx will start X, and load kde by
> > > > default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to
> > > > change this.
> > >
> > > Qué? In Mandrake, startx gives you kdm.
> > >
> > > -Stephen-
> >
> > The relationship is indirect.  startx will give you what ever it's  been
> > instructed to give you.  One or the principal file for this is
> > $HOME/.Xclients, or ~/.Xclients (~/ = $HOME/).
>
> Maybe people are confused about what kdm is? It's the login manager, not
> the window manager (that's KDE).
>
> -Stephen-

I'm not sure that kdm is a login manager.  I've seen it compared to gpm, but gpm
is not a login manager either, because neither needs to run to login, as far as
I'm aware.  The only thing I recall about gpm is that it allows the use of the
mouse in non X login, but doesn't prevent a person from logging in if neither is
present.  kdm is what was said to be used if using kde, which is a window manager
and desktop.

mike





Re: [expert] Re: The right way to do a private network

2000-04-17 Thread Daniel Woods


> Jean-Louis Debert wrote:
> > "Eric L. Brine" wrote:>
> > > > One comment here. You should be using an "experimental" network per RFC
> > > > 1597, not just any old network. There is a legal Class A network, one or
> > > > more legal Class B networks, and there are several legal Class C
> > > > networks. I don't recall offhand the legal class A network, but I don't
> > > > think it is 90.0.0.0. One of the legal class C networks is 192.168.1.0,
> > > > which is what I use.
> > >
> > > I don't know for what reasons, but 90.0.0.x is guaranteed not to be
> > > routed, so it's not "just any old network". At least, that's what some old
> > > tool told me, and it happened to be the one to which I was introduced
> > > before 192.168.1.*.
> > 
> > 90.0.0.x is just _unassigned_ currently (it's reserved to IANA).
> > It is _not_ "guaranteed" to stay that way or "not to be routed".
> > 
> > The reference for networks "guaranteed" not to be routed (the
> > correct naming is "private networks"), is RFC 1918
> > (which obsoletes RFC 1597).
> > 
> > See http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/rfc/
> > 
> > For class A networks, the legal private network address is 10.x.y.z,
> > not 90 ...
> 
> *CHEERS*
> 
> Sense prevails!

And to clarify further, my linux network admin book states that the
Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the following
network numbers...

Class  |  Networks
  A|  10.0.0.0
  B|  172.16.0.0  through 172.31.0.0
  C|  192.168.0.0 through 192.168.255.0

This is stated as being in the older RFC 1597 specs.  According to RFC 1918
(feb 1996), this still appears to be correct.

Thanks... Dan.



[expert] nfs problem

2000-04-17 Thread Matthew Singer

I'm running 7.0 on several systems.  I've got a Pentium III 700 with an
Intel 82558
ethernet controller.  The EEPRO100 driver comes up with it fine and
ftp/telnet
etc are all ok.  But when I nfs mount a volume on this system from a
server and
then copy a file from the nfs server to the system, I get the following
error.

Anyone else seen this?


Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0: Transmit timed out: status 0050  0070
at 937/949 command 000c. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0: Tx ring dump,  Tx queue 949 / 937: 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   0 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   1 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   2 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   3 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   4 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   5 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   6 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   7 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   8 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0: * 9 000c. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   10 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   11 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   12 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   13 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   14 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   15 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   16 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   17 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   18 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   19 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   20 400ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:  =21 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   22 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   23 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   24 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   25 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   26 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   27 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   28 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   29 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   30 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:   31 000ca000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0:Printing Rx ring (next to receive into
34706). 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 0  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 1  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 2  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 3  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 4  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 5  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 6  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 7  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 8  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 9  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 10  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 11  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 12  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 13  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 14  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 15  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 16  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 17  c001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 18  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 19  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 20  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 21  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 22  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 23  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 24  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 25  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 26  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 27  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 28  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 29  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 30  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   Rx ring entry 31  0001. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   PHY index 1 register 0 is 3000. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   PHY index 1 register 1 is 7829. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   PHY index 1 register 2 is 02a8. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   PHY index 1 register 3 is 0150. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   PHY index 1 register 4 is 05e1. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   PHY index 1 register 5 is 41e1. 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel:   PHY index 1 register 21 is . 
Apr 17 15:28:34 cfl kernel: eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter... 
Apr 17 15:28:41 cfl kernel: nfs: server scorpio35 not responding, still
trying 
Apr 17 15:28:41 cfl last message repeated 2 times

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RE: [expert] Intel Chip Types (was) Mandrake sub-optimized for i686?

2000-04-17 Thread james.fogg

OK... so the 786 is the PII and the 886 is the PIII. If the 586 is the
original Pentium, where does the 686 come in? Is that the MMX-enabled
series? I am getting ready to compile some kernels and I am curious.

BTW.. I have two machines that identify as -S model CPU-s (P133-S and
P166-S). I think they are pre-MMX. Is there any significance to the S
designation?


-Original Message-
From: Linda Walsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake sub-optimized for i686?


"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote:
> 
> Linda Walsh wrote:
> >
> > Found this interesting bit of trivia in the glibc library source:
> >
> > i686> more Implies
> > # Due to the reordering and the oher nifty extensions in the i686 it is
> > # not really good to use heavily i586 optimized code on a i686.  It's
> > # better to use i486/i386 code.
> >
> > Under i786 I found the comment that the Pentium II core was almost the
> > same as the Pentium Pro.  Maybe Mandrake should optimize for i686, else
> > it means for anyone with a Pentium-Pro or higher is probably better off
> > running on a 386/486 based distro.  :-(
> 
> But can't you compile from Mandrake kernel source and set the CPU type
> at i686/PPro? That's what I did...
> 
> -Stephen-
---
That's great for us developer types -- but for the end user who
just is interested in an 'off-the-shelf' distro ready to go for them,
optimizing for the 'pentium' (at the expense of 3/4/6/7)86 seems 
sub-optimal.  At least with 686 optimization, you would have 786 (PII) 
and 886 (PIII) compatible optimization as well.

-l
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]  | Voice: (650) 933-5338



Re: [expert] Network card causes modem to disappear

2000-04-17 Thread D. R. Evans

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> On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> > The modem is on IRQ 10, and the network card is on IRQ5. The I/O
> > addresses are also nicely different.
> > 
> IRQ10 would seem to indicate a WinModem. Are you SURE it's
> not a WinModem? If it is, you will ALWAYS have trouble
> accessing it, even if it *appears* to be working.
>  John

Yes, it's not a Winmodem -- although if anyone has a cast-iron way for me 
to tell for 100% sure, that would be nice. I specifically changed the order 
from the default (which is, of course, a Win-pseudo-modem) and they charged 
me for a real modem; the documentation (such as it is) also looks like it 
belongs to a real USRobotics/3COM modem.

As I understand it, the modem gets configured to IRQ 10 during power-on by 
the PCI gubbins, so there's no way to control that.

And it really does work perfectly without the network card in there; my 
understanding is that a WinModem wouldn't be accessible at all, since there 
wouldn't be a driver for it anywhere in the system.

Yes? No?

  Doc Evans




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RE: [expert] TV Cards

2000-04-17 Thread Christopher Quale

I switched to xawtv (from kwintv) as it is a bit more
stable than kwintv, almost everything has a keyboard
shortcut and true fullscreen works quite well (Ctl -
alt - - to get to a lower resolution, then the F key
in xawtv switches to fullscreen mode). I'm using a
plain vanilla Hauppauge WinTV card. 

Chris

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Klar Brian D Contr
> MSG/SWS
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 5:49 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [expert] TV Cards
>
>
> I have a Hauppaggue Win TV w/radio.
> I use KDE and I like KwinTV real well.
> Wish I could get "Real" full screen though.
>
> Brian D. Klar - CVE
> OTS
> WPAFB
> (937)257-5773
> 937-973-3125 (Pager)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wayne Petherick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 12:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [expert] TV Cards
>
>
> I know that many people on these lists are using TV tuner cards
> for TVunder
> Linux and was wondering what cards work and what software you are
> using to run
> them?  Any help would be appreciated as I am thinking of
> investing in a card
> for my Linux box.  Yet again, looking for one more thing I don't
> have to rely
> on Wind'ohs for...
>
> Wayne
>




Re: [expert] Samba Printing

2000-04-17 Thread Chunnuan Chen

By default (i.e., you don't choose any filter for the samba printer),  printtool
will use /usr/lib/rhs/rhs-printfilters/smbprint, which uses smbclient to connect
to the remote samba printer.  You may need to debug this file a little bit to see
if it does communicate  well with the windows printer.   Moreover, if you want to
print ps file to the windows printer (which usually cannot print ps files), you
also need to add some gs command before you send the file to the samba printer.
On the other hand,  if you choose your own filter, you need to add the smbclient
command to the filter file (usually, ps-to-printer.fpi). For example,  following
is the modification I made to my ps-to-printer.fpi ( under
/usr/lib/rhs/rhs-printfilters/)  file in order to print to my Epson Stylus  860
attached to Windown NT:
.
elif [ "$GSDEVICE" = "uniprint" ]; then
 echo "enter upp">>/tmp/print.log
#  Set default *.upp driver (your default printer upp driver here)
   if [ "$COLOR" = "" ]; then
  COLOR="stcany"
  echo "No filename for parameters given.  Assume $COLOR."
   fi
# the smbclient command is what I added to print to my windows NT printer
   eval "$mpage_cmd | gs -q @$COLOR.upp -r$RESOLUTION \
  -sPAPERSIZE=$PAPERSIZE \
  $EXTRA_GS_OPTIONS \
  -sOutputFile=- - |/usr/bin/smbclient chep26\\epson -U
yourusername%yourpasswd -c \
  'printmode graphics;print -' >>/tmp/print.log; echo "done">>/tmp/print.log
...
Hope this can help.
Chunnuan


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Progress!!
>
> This worked for a text file - it did not eject the page, but hey, no big deal.
> Fix that later.
>
> So, now what?  Still won't print from programs if I tell it to use lp0 (what
> printtool calls the printer.
>
> Ty
>
> > I'm sure there is a general HowTo on this but I use a similar configuration
> > both at work and at home.
> >
> > First make sure that the Windows Networking is working correctly.
> > >From the command line, run "smbclient //host/printer_share  -P" - this
> > should give a ftp like connection where you can give a command to print a
> > local UNIX file.
> > E.g.
> > smbclient //ela/HP693C -P
> > Password: xx
> > smb: > print /etc/hosts
> > smb: > quit
> >
> > This will halve the problem -  whether it is on the UNIX or Windows side.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 7:38 PM
> > Subject: [expert] Samba Printing
> >
> >
> > > I'm having a problem with samba/smb printing.  Namely that I can't.
> > >
> > > I have an Epson 740 connected via usb to a windows machine.  Windows
> > prints
> > > great.  I have it set to share as epson on machine magnolia.  I have a
> > password
> > > on the printer.
> > >
> > > In printtool I've told it that it's on file://magnolia/epson.  I've got
> > the right
> > > filter installed for it (prints fine when directly connected to linux box
> > via
> > > lp0).  I have the password in.  I told it the ip of the windows box.  It
> > DOES
> > > send some info via the network when I tell it to print.  But windows
> > doesn't
> > > even appear to blink.
> > >
> > > I've been working on this for about 4 days, looking all over the net and
> > > nothing seems to get it to work.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Thankee!
> > >
> > > Ty C. Mixon
> > > F.T.C. Enterprises
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ICQ 26147713
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> Ty C. Mixon
> F.T.C. Enterprises
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ 26147713




Re: [expert] RPC-program not registered

2000-04-17 Thread Hans Schneidhofer

hi Ron
and the mandrake-linux-community,

have resolved the problem : rpc:program not registered

portmap, nfs-utils and nfs-utils-clients was succesfully installed during
update and/or install-process. But one of the bad bags, which has happend, was
: nfs have been deactivated during installation/updateprocess. 

Sometimes the world is soo simpel - isn't it ?

So the only thing I had to do after trying of about 2 or 3 times to reinstall 
portmap, nfs-utils and nfs-utils-clients with no success.

Anyway, thanks to all for helping me and don't give away your joy on linux. 
By the way : there is nothing, which cannot be  resolved with our great linux.

Do you have the same experience with your winboxes ?

bye
Hans Schneidhofer

Am Son, 16 Apr 2000 schrieben Sie:
> Hans,
> 
> Mandrake 7.0-2 (custom, development) omits installation of the
> following essential networking RPMs:
> 
> portmap
> nfs-utils
> nfs-utils-clients
> 
> Use kpackage as root to install them from your CD.
> 
> It also neglects to start the nfs deamon (nfsd).  Use ksysv as root
> to include it in runlevels 3 and 5 after netfs, then reboot.
> 
> Check with the task manager that you now have rpc.mountd, etc.
> running.
> 
> You and I must be the only people using this stuff - certainly and
> obviously the Mandrake developers or QA people (yes, they exist!)
> never tried to use it before (or after) release.
> 
> 
> Hans Schneidhofer wrote:
>  
> > got a problem with RPC and mounting NFS-filesystems after updating from
> > mandrake 6.1 to mandrake 7
> > 
> > can ping, ssh-login, but trying to do a mount -a some exported NFS-filesystems
> > from my 2nd linuxbox (also mandrake 7.0) results in mount: RPC: Program not
> > registered.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.



[expert] problems in loading libneswt.so.50

2000-04-17 Thread Hans Schneidhofer

hi
have trouble in loading libnewt.so.50 during startup.
But libnewt.so.50 IS installed.
The results of this circumstances is, after calling DrakConf I only see the old
fashions of linuxcond, or only some masks appear.

Is anybody there, who could explain me, how I can solve that bug ?
The message I get is :
error in loading shared library. could not open libnewt.so.50 : no such file or
directory.

Alsu kudzu cannot be opened.

Thanks in advance again for your help

hans schneidhofer



Re: [expert] LILO problem

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Corbeil

Kirk McElhearn wrote:

> On 16/04/00 23:11, Andrew George [EMAIL PROTECTED] is reported to
> have said:
>
> >/boot/vmlinuz is a symlink to the real kernel file, I noticed both your linux
> >distributons in LILO.conf pointed to it so I was wondering if the symlink had
> >been removed somehow so lilo didn't know where to find the real Kernel
>
> Isn't it checking for this symlink in the HD that is specified for each
> boot setup?
>
> In any case, it still tells me No images have been defined
>
> Kirk

If the /boot/vmlinuz symlink doesn't work with Lilo, then simply enter the full
name of the kernel to boot with, e.g., /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.2-x

Besides, even if the plain, general, vmlinuz, symlink worked, it'ld still be
better to specify the entire kernel image name, because, then, when you work on
reconfiguring the lilo.conf file using some tool, or even directly, you
explicitly know what you're dealing with.  Hence, regardless of whether a symlink
like this did work, it shouldn't be used for this purpose, imo.

mike





Re: [expert] LILO problem

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Corbeil

Kirk McElhearn wrote:

> I'm really getting fed up with this problem.  So many people said it was
> so easy to use a big HD and boot more than one distribution, I wish there
> were some way to figure out why it won't work for me
>
> I just tried something - I have a Mandrake boot floppy, and I figured
> that maybe I could just copy it and change some config in the floppy to
> get the other distro to boot.  But when trying to access the floppy, I
> get a message Could not list directory contents.  Is this floppy some
> format that cannot be read by Mandrake?

I don't think that Mandrake should have any problems listing the contents of
the disk.

Have you tried listing the contents from a dos boot, like into Win9x or NT?
If you can list the contents there, then you can definitely list the contents
with Linux, but the mount definition may need to be changed to specify the
correct filesystem type.

To check the latter, you can try mounting the floppy to ext2 and to vfat, if
ext2 fails.  If both of these fail, then haven't a clue.

mount -vt vfat /dev/fd0H1440 /mnt/floppy

mount -vt ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

mount -vt vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

You could use /mnt/a:, instead of /mnt/floppy.  Doesn't matter, as long as
the /mnt mount point isn't already mounted.  The only time this can otherwise
matter is if you try to mount without specifying the  -t option and argument.

If none of these mounts works, then haven't a clue.

If any of these mounts works and you can't list the contents of the floppy
disk, then haven't a clue.

On the other hand, the above is based on the assumption that you're trying to
list the contents of a Linux boot floppy, which should be listable.

As for large disks, you might find some useful information through the LDP

http://www.linuxdoc.org

Check through the list of HOWTOs.  You should find one on using Large Disks.
Don't know if it'll contain the answer to your problems, but you should read
the howto anyway.

mike







Re: [expert] Frontpage extensions

2000-04-17 Thread Pj

John, 

Can you lend a hand, please? Scott runs Apache under FreeBSD. I don't
understand *serverspeak*. Scott is paraplegic so physical tinkering with
the sys is not possible by him. 

I asked him if he would dump FP if there was a viable workaround. He
said in a second if the solution was compatible and secure. As far as I
understand SSI (not much) he does use CGI-bin.

Scott is a terrific guy that works very hard to give clients the best
possible service and still keep the server secure. Apparently, it is a
neverending task. 

Anything information, or anything you have time to do will be deeply
appreciated by me. Scott too. 

Thanks for your time and consideration,

Pj



Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Corbeil

Brian T. Schellenberger wrote:

> "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote:
> >
> > Matt Stegman wrote:
> >
> > > No, startx does not start kdm.  startx will start X, and load kde by
> > > default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to
> > > change this.
> >
> > Qué? In Mandrake, startx gives you kdm.
>
> No, it doesn't.

I think that what the person means is that Mandrake configured kde as the
default window manager and desktop.  This may have been through a user choice
made during the installation process, or the default the Mandrake distribution
which was installed.

To an unknowing user, this could cause startx to look like it gives kdm or kde
as the default.  Only by reading documentation on this does a person realize
that startx only gives or brings up what it's instructed to do so, through
configuration files, e.g. ~/.Xclients.  Without reading the documentation on
this process, many newbies to X and the wm's can easily think that startx is to
"blame".

startx is a "front-end" and depends on configuration files, to know what to do.

To learn about startx and configuring which wm's to use or have a choice of,
people need to read the documentation on this, or wait until someone repeats
it.

True, startx doesn't decide what wm is to be used, but it can seem like it does
for people who don't know what's actually going on.

mike





Re: [expert] Dependency Help!!

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Corbeil

Orlando Lewis wrote:

> Where can I find the following dependencies and/or what packages do they
> come with?  I am using RH 6.1
>
> libstdc++_libc6.1-2.so.0
> libcrypto.so.0
>
> TIA

That's a good question as far I'm concerned, because I'm also getting
problems due to these as well as others, like libc.so.6.  I have a symbolic
link libc.so.6 to some libc.so.2.0.7 file, or something like that, but
either this file isn't the correct version, although it looks like it
should be, because the libc.so.6 messages always say either "(GLIBC_2.0)"
or "(GLIBC_2.1)", and 2.0.7 is greater than 2.0.

However, I read something yesterday saying that libc* packages should be
removed, only leaving glibc* packages, but the  documentation I've found on
this, so far, doesn't cover this much more than this, and I'm a little
concerned about removing the libc.5.4.* package until more thorough
documentation is found, or someone can answer the question based on real
experience.

I'm also getting problems with libm, libl, and others, as well as
libstdc++-libc6* and libcrypto*.

I've searched considerably for the answer, but haven't found anything more
than removing libc* and something very vague about symbolic links being
wrong and needing redefinition, or the files being copied to the correct
directory, and resinstalling some package(s).  Haven't found any clear
documentation on this and if I do anything of what I've found so far, then
it'ld be by using very vague guidelines, so vague it leaves me wondering if
who ever wrote the documentation is sure of what he or she is saying, or
maybe it's just that they don't like to write, or can't translate
experience or knowledge into writing, or don't want to because they
wouldn't be getting paid.

What ever the  reason, I haven't found any documentation leaving me feeling
reasonably confident; only leaving me feeling like I'm going by some
person's ideas, while it being really, only trial and error kind of
testing.

However, one piece of documentation I came across yesterday said that this
kind of problem is easier to avoid by avoiding RPMS and instead using
.tar.gz downloads, and then running configure, make and install.  Actually,
this is the same piece of documentation first referred to, above.  It said
that RPMs are supposedly, considerably unreliable in this way, whereas
downloading .tar.gz archives is considerably  more reliable.

Of course, one could always try these guidelines, or installing RPMs using
the --nodeps (skip dependency checking) option, but I wouldn't do this
without first backing up the system.  On the other hand, it may not be
necessary to backup the system, because if the --nodeps allows package
installation and then apps don't work, then the package(s) can probably be
removed without any problems.  I don't know installation of RPMs well
enough to be able to say this for sure, though.

That's what I've found on this kind of topic, so far.

The first referenced piece of documentation is in the Software Building
HOWTO, which can be found through the LDP.  I found it in the html HOWTOs,
there.

http://www.linuxdoc.org

mike








Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

Mike Corbeil wrote:
> 
> Stephen F. Bosch wrote:
> 
> > Matt Stegman wrote:
> >
> > > No, startx does not start kdm.  startx will start X, and load kde by
> > > default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to
> > > change this.
> >
> > Qué? In Mandrake, startx gives you kdm.
> >
> > -Stephen-
> 
> The relationship is indirect.  startx will give you what ever it's  been
> instructed to give you.  One or the principal file for this is
> $HOME/.Xclients, or ~/.Xclients (~/ = $HOME/).

Maybe people are confused about what kdm is? It's the login manager, not
the window manager (that's KDE).

-Stephen-



Re: [expert] Troubles With Partitions

2000-04-17 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

Charles Curley wrote:
> 
> -> The NTFS driver works fine in Linux.  The _read_ driver, that is.  I
> -> haven't tried the 2.3 writeable driver.  It's marked *DANGEROUS* in the
> -> kernel config, though, so don't use it on any volume containing anything
> -> you can't afford to lose.
> ->
> -> NTFS has advantages over FAT, too: it's journaled (no filesystem checks
> -> after a crash), it can handle volume sizes up to 4GB, it's faster, and...
> -> hmm, well, I guess that's about it.
> 

> It is, however, proprietary and undocumented,

That's for extra *security*

*laughs*

-Stephen-



Re: [expert] Re: The right way to do a private network

2000-04-17 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

Jean-Louis Debert wrote:
> 
> "Eric L. Brine" wrote:>
> > > One comment here. You should be using an "experimental" network per RFC
> > > 1597, not just any old network. There is a legal Class A network, one or
> > > more legal Class B networks, and there are several legal Class C
> > > networks. I don't recall offhand the legal class A network, but I don't
> > > think it is 90.0.0.0. One of the legal class C networks is 192.168.1.0,
> > > which is what I use.
> >
> > I don't know for what reasons, but 90.0.0.x is guaranteed not to be
> > routed, so it's not "just any old network". At least, that's what some old
> > tool told me, and it happened to be the one to which I was introduced
> > before 192.168.1.*.
> 
> 90.0.0.x is just _unassigned_ currently (it's reserved to IANA).
> It is _not_ "guaranteed" to stay that way or "not to be routed".
> 
> The reference for networks "guaranteed" not to be routed (the
> correct naming is "private networks"), is RFC 1918
> (which obsoletes RFC 1597).
> 
> See http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/rfc/
> 
> For class A networks, the legal private network address is 10.x.y.z,
> not 90 ...

*CHEERS*

Sense prevails!

Merci, Jean-Louis =)

-Stephen-



[expert] Dependency Help!!

2000-04-17 Thread Orlando Lewis

Where can I find the following dependencies and/or what packages do they 
come with?  I am using RH 6.1

libstdc++_libc6.1-2.so.0
libcrypto.so.0

TIA




Re: [expert] Network card causes modem to disappear

2000-04-17 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> The modem is on IRQ 10, and the network card is on IRQ5. The I/O addresses are also 
> nicely different.
> 
IRQ10 would seem to indicate a WinModem. Are you SURE it's
not a WinModem? If it is, you will ALWAYS have trouble
accessing it, even if it *appears* to be working.
John



Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger

"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote:
> 
> Matt Stegman wrote:
> 
> > No, startx does not start kdm.  startx will start X, and load kde by
> > default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to
> > change this.
> 
> Qué? In Mandrake, startx gives you kdm.

No, it doesn't.

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RE: [expert] setting eth1 to 10mb

2000-04-17 Thread james.fogg

I haven't followed all your thread, but check the following

Cable length: no segment over 300 feet (for UTP 10/100baseT cabling) or over
600 feet for 10base2 cabling (coax or thinnet).

Remember the 543 Ethernet rule (max 5 segments, max 4 repeaters (hubs and
media converters are repeaters too), max 3 populated segments).

If you still have collisions you must suspect a bum hub (cheap hubs are
notorious for collisions and other timing problems, I throw out about 20
cheap hubs a year). Only a packet analyzer will reveal the cause if this is
the case. If you use one of the packet analyzers for Linux, be aware that
only certain NIC cards support true promiscuous mode.

You can also suspect a bum NIC card. It is common for a NIC to have a weak
transceiver. Again, a packet analyzer would help.


-Original Message-
From: Ronald J. Yacketta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 8:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] setting eth1 to 10mb


just noticd something

I olny get collisions we I transfer files between my win2k and LM7 boxes
I don't get it if I am browising the net etc.. won my win2k box

- Original Message -
From: "Ronald J. Yacketta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] setting eth1 to 10mb


> its an non-routed ip weather I use a class A/B/C does not matter :) as
long
> as it works
> I could use the Class C non-routed but heck 10.100.100.??? is faster and
> easier to remeber *snicker*
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stephen F. Bosch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [expert] setting eth1 to 10mb
>
>
> > "Ronald J. Yacketta" wrote:
> > >
> > > okay
> > > its like this :)
> > > eth0 10.100.100.1
> > > win2k 10.100.100.13
> > > I think thats unique correct???
> >
> > Can I ask you why you're using a Class A address for a home network?
> >
> > -Stephen-
>



Re: [expert] IP Masquerading, The ABCs of

2000-04-17 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

Charles Curley wrote:
> 
> -> Ultimately the ISP has to block these packets at their routers, or they
> -> get into trouble, so it's not a huge problem -- but all you need is for
> -> two people on the same subnet to make the same mistake, and you've got
> -> trouble.
> 
> No, read the extract from the RFC elsewhere in this thread. If the ISP
> sees any packets addressed on the private network, then the RFC has been
> violated.

I posted that extract -- and I wasn't saying you're not violating the
RFC if your private packets go out onto the local subnet... it's just
that the damage that can be done is limited if the ISP's routers are
properly configured (that is, to discard packets with private address
ranges).

-Stephen-



Re: [expert] Re: The right way to do a private network

2000-04-17 Thread Daniel Woods


> Assuming your ISP is providing you with only a single IP address, you want
> something along these lines:
> 
> ++
> | Comp B |---\+---+
> ++\---| H |  ++ +---+
>   | u |--| Comp A |-| Modem |
> ++/---| b |  ++ +---+
> | Comp C |---/+---+
> ++ 
> 
> Comp A is your Linux box. The network card in A connected to your
> cable/xDSL modem is assigned the external address supplied by your ISP
> (static or DHCP).  You'll need to use ipchains on this box so that it acts
> as a gateway for the LAN.
> 
> Comp B and Comp C are you Windows or ther Linux boxes.

I have not set this up yet, however I don't have a "Comp A" (yet).
Right now Comp B (mdk6.1 - development machine) and Comp C (win98 - kids
machine) will be hooked up to my new 100 Mps *switch*, and the modem
downloads at up to 7 Mps (2 Mps upload - so they say).

What is the recommended minimum speed/memory for Comp A ?
Is a P75/90 with 64 MB enough ?  Will this affect the speed noticed
by Comp B and C when using the internet ?  Does any of this not matter
as long as Comp A's network card is at least 10 Mps ?

If I wanted to have a web server running (or ftp, mail, news), can
it be on Comp B instead of Comp A ?  I know the ISPs don't like this.
I take it that Comp A would have to have some kind of proxy server
to forward the request to the private web server on Comp B.
If I started to get many web hits, would the speed and memory of
Comp A affect users, or is it affected by the speed of Comp B ?
Does opening up Comp B's port 80 (web) create a security risk 
(or is it if you use a proxy server - recommendations) ?

Any other pointers are greatly appreciated.

I've been learning a lot about Linux from this list, even though
I have over 10 years of Unix experience.

Thanks... Dan.




Re: [expert] Frontpage extensions

2000-04-17 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> Not sure I understand, John. M$ (plain vanilla) HTML worked okay before
> FP. I think I probably wrote what Scott said wrong. He said that SSI's,
> like counters, won't display properly in an FP page without the FP stuff
> in his server too. He runs Apache. FWIW, I noticed when I ftp'd to the
> new server it had 6-8 FP files in my account, which I happily deleted.
> FP is just one more reason to embrace Tux, imho. 
> 
Ahh...more M$ stuff. Tell him to switch to CGI counters.
:-) As far as SSL (Secure Socket Layer), using SSL to
upload a web page will NOT work with plain Apache. It
*does* require FP. However, we get by just fine by letting
users design in FP, and either use FP's built-in FTP client
to upload  or upload via a standalone FTP client. :-)
John



[expert] apache help needed!!!

2000-04-17 Thread Vincent Danen

I'm having some serious problems with apache and they just started
today...

In my error_log file I keep getting:

httpd: exec of /bin/sh failed, reason: Permission denied (errno = 13)

In a SSI file (banner.shtml).  It won't run any of my other CGI scripts
either, nor will PHP include statements work either.  Does anyone know
what might be going on here?  It was all working yesterday and now it
isn't and I haven't touched anything.  I'm extremely confused as to why
this won't work!

For the PHP3 includes, if it's a local file
(ie. include("/home/httpd/html/text/footer.txt");) it works fine, but if
it's something like include("http://bla.bla/whatever.php3"); it doesn't
work anymore.  I'm seriously confused here.  I think it's a permission
problem, but I don't understand why it hasn't happened before
then.  Everything is owned by root.root and the pages come up ok if I view
them by themselves, but as includes they don't work anymore.

I'm using the latest AES RPMs.  Help!

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Re: [expert] OT: Perfect operating system

2000-04-17 Thread Deryk Barker

Thus spake Brian T. Schellenberger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> 
> Sorry, I know it's off-topic *and* it's dead, but it's not all *that*
> off-topic.
> 
> As I said, I rather liked AmigaDOS; it's connection with Unix is that it
> was based on the BCPL language, which was a sibling of the C language on
> which Unix was based, both being decendents of B.

At the risk of going further off topic:

BCPL was created c1965 by Martin Richards as an implementable subset
of Strachey's CPL.

B was essentially BCPL with {} for the block delimiters instead of $(
and $) (ASCII was fairly uncommon in 1965).

C was derived from B by Dennis Ritchie for the reimplementation of
Unix c1971.
[...]
> Multics inspired Unix with a combination of admiration and revulsion by
> Kernighan and Pike (?);

The original Unix (spelled Unics BTW) was developed by Ken
Thompson. I'm not sure who this Pike is.

BTW Thompson and Ritchie had both worked on the Multics project at
Bell Labs.

> admiration for the consistency and elegance and
> revulsion at the size, complexity, and resource requirements.
> 
> The first Unix system I used supported 16 simultaneous users on a single
> CPU with 128K (which was the largest machine on which Unix ran at the
> time--a PDD 11/70 with split I&D).  Of course even *vi* had been
> disabled as being too resource intensive . . .

And I can recall a benchmark of a dual CPU Multics system with c1MB
supporting 200 users. Compare to today's Unices Multics was a resource
miser.

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Re: [expert] Mandrake sub-optimized for i686?

2000-04-17 Thread Linda Walsh

"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote:
> 
> Linda Walsh wrote:
> >
> > Found this interesting bit of trivia in the glibc library source:
> >
> > i686> more Implies
> > # Due to the reordering and the oher nifty extensions in the i686 it is
> > # not really good to use heavily i586 optimized code on a i686.  It's
> > # better to use i486/i386 code.
> >
> > Under i786 I found the comment that the Pentium II core was almost the
> > same as the Pentium Pro.  Maybe Mandrake should optimize for i686, else
> > it means for anyone with a Pentium-Pro or higher is probably better off
> > running on a 386/486 based distro.  :-(
> 
> But can't you compile from Mandrake kernel source and set the CPU type
> at i686/PPro? That's what I did...
> 
> -Stephen-
---
That's great for us developer types -- but for the end user who
just is interested in an 'off-the-shelf' distro ready to go for them,
optimizing for the 'pentium' (at the expense of 3/4/6/7)86 seems 
sub-optimal.  At least with 686 optimization, you would have 786 (PII) 
and 886 (PIII) compatible optimization as well.

-l
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Re: [expert] setting eth1 to 10mb

2000-04-17 Thread Bug Hunter



  could you possibly be plugged into the uplink port?  I've seen much the
same symptoms.

On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Ronald J. Yacketta wrote:

> True,
> but I am getting a but load of collisions on my hub between my win2k and
> linux box
> for some reason it appears not to be autodetecting.
> 
> the network/broadcast addys are the same and they are in the same class
> (10.100.100.???)
> 




Re: [expert] LILO problem

2000-04-17 Thread Kirk McElhearn

I'm really getting fed up with this problem.  So many people said it was 
so easy to use a big HD and boot more than one distribution, I wish there 
were some way to figure out why it won't work for me

I just tried something - I have a Mandrake boot floppy, and I figured 
that maybe I could just copy it and change some config in the floppy to 
get the other distro to boot.  But when trying to access the floppy, I 
get a message Could not list directory contents.  Is this floppy some 
format that cannot be read by Mandrake?

Kirk



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Re: [expert] LILO problem

2000-04-17 Thread Kirk McElhearn

On 16/04/00 23:11, Andrew George [EMAIL PROTECTED] is reported to 
have said:

>/boot/vmlinuz is a symlink to the real kernel file, I noticed both your linux
>distributons in LILO.conf pointed to it so I was wondering if the symlink had
>been removed somehow so lilo didn't know where to find the real Kernel 

Isn't it checking for this symlink in the HD that is specified for each 
boot setup?

In any case, it still tells me No images have been defined

Kirk



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[expert] Evil FP file

2000-04-17 Thread Pj

Someone at M$ engineered a hidden back door in FP that allows access to
net servers. This story lists the specific file to remove. 

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article/0,2171,3_341451,00.html

Pj



Re: [expert] Frontpage extensions

2000-04-17 Thread Pj

Not sure I understand, John. M$ (plain vanilla) HTML worked okay before
FP. I think I probably wrote what Scott said wrong. He said that SSI's,
like counters, won't display properly in an FP page without the FP stuff
in his server too. He runs Apache. FWIW, I noticed when I ftp'd to the
new server it had 6-8 FP files in my account, which I happily deleted.
FP is just one more reason to embrace Tux, imho. 

Pj

John Aldrich wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> > I asked my ISP why he added the FP to hhe server?
> >
> > Apparently the FP pages will look fine but with the extensions in the 
> > server, SSI's don't work.
> >
> Ummyeah...but you can always use OTHER "secure"
> connections ANY M$-specific stuff won't work without
> FP. You can use an Apache Secure Server with a certificate
> to get secure connections, though...
> John



[expert] Network card causes modem to disappear

2000-04-17 Thread D. R. Evans

I've tried to post this several times already over the course of the past few days, 
but I have seen nothing appear on the reflector. Haven't received any bounce 
messages either, so I don't know where the messages think they've been going.

Anyway, apologies if you've seen this before.

-

A nasty problem

1. Running Mandrake 7.0 without any fancy modifications on a 733 MHz Micron box.

2. I can access the modem just fine (e.g. for PPP, etc.) The modem is on
ttyS4 (COM5). [ Don't ask me, that's the way it came in WinDo$e, so I put it on 
ttyS4 for Linux. ] I have /dev/modem soft linked to /dev/ttyS4.

3. I add a Linksys Ether PCI II card (no other NICs in the box).

4. Suddenly I can no longer access the modem. At all. In any program. kppp, for 
example, says "searching for modem" and then "modem is busy". Even statserial 
doesn't work (complains about TIOCMGET not being supported, although of course it 
works fine when the network card is not in the box).

5. If I take the card out, I can access the modem again.

6. Even if I tell Kudzu not to configure the network card at boot time
(i.e. the third option of the three that are presented), I STILL can't get
to the modem if the network card is phsically inserted in a slot.

7. The really bad news is that everything works fine under WinDo$e. 
Actually, I suppose that's not really so bad, because it at least
indicates that there's no fundamental hardware problem.

So, any ideas as to how I might be able to have a network and a modem at
the same time would be most welcome. Or even how to diagnose the problem.

Oh, some extra info:

The modem is on IRQ 10, and the network card is on IRQ5. The I/O addresses are also 
nicely different.

And the network card appears to work OK (although I haven't "torture-tested" it, 
having been too busy trying to figure out why I don't have a modem any more).

I have a separate serial port on COM1 (on the motherboard). It works fine regardless 
of whether the network card is in place.

  Doc Evans


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Re: [expert] Re: The right way to do a private network

2000-04-17 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

"Eric L. Brine" wrote:> 
> > One comment here. You should be using an "experimental" network per RFC
> > 1597, not just any old network. There is a legal Class A network, one or
> > more legal Class B networks, and there are several legal Class C
> > networks. I don't recall offhand the legal class A network, but I don't
> > think it is 90.0.0.0. One of the legal class C networks is 192.168.1.0,
> > which is what I use.
> 
> I don't know for what reasons, but 90.0.0.x is guaranteed not to be
> routed, so it's not "just any old network". At least, that's what some old
> tool told me, and it happened to be the one to which I was introduced
> before 192.168.1.*.


90.0.0.x is just _unassigned_ currently (it's reserved to IANA).
It is _not_ "guaranteed" to stay that way or "not to be routed".

The reference for networks "guaranteed" not to be routed (the
correct naming is "private networks"), is RFC 1918 
(which obsoletes RFC 1597).

See http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/rfc/

For class A networks, the legal private network address is 10.x.y.z,
not 90 ...


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Re: [expert] Frontpage extensions

2000-04-17 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> I asked my ISP why he added the FP to hhe server? 
> 
> Apparently the FP pages will look fine but with the extensions in the
> server, SSI's don't work. 
> 
Ummyeah...but you can always use OTHER "secure"
connections ANY M$-specific stuff won't work without
FP. You can use an Apache Secure Server with a certificate
to get secure connections, though...
John



RE: [expert] TV Cards

2000-04-17 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS

I have a Hauppaggue Win TV w/radio.
I use KDE and I like KwinTV real well.
Wish I could get "Real" full screen though.

Brian D. Klar - CVE
OTS
WPAFB
(937)257-5773
937-973-3125 (Pager)


-Original Message-
From: Wayne Petherick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 12:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] TV Cards


I know that many people on these lists are using TV tuner cards for TVunder
Linux and was wondering what cards work and what software you are using to run
them?  Any help would be appreciated as I am thinking of investing in a card
for my Linux box.  Yet again, looking for one more thing I don't have to rely
on Wind'ohs for...

Wayne



Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Corbeil

Ken Archer wrote:

> When I installed 7.0 I set it up to go directly to X using "kdm".  On a single
> user machine, however, I prefer to use "guichooser" to choose my window manager.
> Question is how do I stop it from using kdm and go to a console?  If I set it to
> go to init3 and then use startx, it will still go to kdm if I am not mistaken.

Once you're logged in and in kde, bring up kde help and search for how to disable
kde.  There's some command  like

kde on/off

but have forgotten exactly what it is.

This should replace the .Xclients file with one which doesn't invoke startkde.

Then, I'ld suggest reading  up on the window managers and the tool you mentioned.
There may be a man page or documentation under /usr/doc for this tool.

mike






Re: [expert] Troubles With Partitions

2000-04-17 Thread Charles Curley

On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 08:10:50PM -0500, Matt Stegman wrote:
-> On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Charles Curley wrote:
-> > Mess-DOS uses FAT-16, not FAT-32, so it is limited to a partition of 2
-> > GB. NT 4 with no SPs also has this problem for FAT partitions. As far as I
-> > know, there is no SP for NT 4 that supports FAT-32, so you may be out of
-> > luck there.
-> 
-> That's correct.  However, System Internals
-> (http://www.sysinternals.com) produces a product that will let NT 4 read
-> from (and write to, if you purchase the full version) FAT32
-> filesystems.  You still can't use one as a boot partition, so you'll need
-> at least one FAT16/NTFS filesystem.

Ah, thank you.

-> 
-> > Then install DOS on the DOS partition. Get that running. Then install NT
-> > on the NT partitions. DO NOT USE NTFS. You will not be able to read NTFS
-> > partitions from Linux except with an experimental driver, which may not be
-> > reliable (I don't know, I haven't tried it lately). Installing NT will
-> > modify the DOS partition and change its boot sequence to allow you to boot
-> > to DOS or to the NT partition.
-> 
-> The NTFS driver works fine in Linux.  The _read_ driver, that is.  I
-> haven't tried the 2.3 writeable driver.  It's marked *DANGEROUS* in the
-> kernel config, though, so don't use it on any volume containing anything
-> you can't afford to lose.
-> 
-> NTFS has advantages over FAT, too: it's journaled (no filesystem checks
-> after a crash), it can handle volume sizes up to 4GB, it's faster, and...
-> hmm, well, I guess that's about it.

It is, however, proprietary and undocumented, where FAT16 is proprietary
but very well publicly documented.



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Re: [expert] HTML help suggestions

2000-04-17 Thread Charles Curley

On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 08:44:40PM -0400, David M. Kufta wrote:
-> Hello list,
->  I know this is off topic for this list, however with the wealth of
-> knowledge available I thought I might inquire as to where I could
-> possibly get some help to upgrade some old web pages to html 4.0
-> standards. I know very little about html and would appreciate any help

The starting point: http://www.w3.org/


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Re: [expert] Re: The right way to do a private network

2000-04-17 Thread Eric L. Brine


> One comment here. You should be using an "experimental" network per RFC
> 1597, not just any old network. There is a legal Class A network, one or
> more legal Class B networks, and there are several legal Class C
> networks. I don't recall offhand the legal class A network, but I don't
> think it is 90.0.0.0. One of the legal class C networks is 192.168.1.0,
> which is what I use.

I don't know for what reasons, but 90.0.0.x is guaranteed not to be
routed, so it's not "just any old network". At least, that's what some old
tool told me, and it happened to be the one to which I was introduced
before 192.168.1.*.

Like I said in my original post: "I don't remember what is usually used",
meaning that it's not the one usually recommended. So everyone, use
192.168.1.*, not 90.0.0.* to be on the safe side!

> Eric: I'm not trying to publicly toast you, I just want to make it clear
> for other folks' benefit.

I eavesdrop here to learn about linux 'cause I don't know much about it. I
definitely don't know everything. Criticism always welcome.

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Re: [expert] Re: The right way to do a private network

2000-04-17 Thread Charles Curley

On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 12:51:54AM -0400, Eric L. Brine wrote:
-> 
-> > Thank you as well from me..I just joined the list two days a go and 
-> > missed some of the postings.  I just bought the hub last week, got the 
-> > linux machine working, and had no idea of the implications.
-> 
-> Check the archives of the list, available on the mandrake site where you
-> subscribed to the list.
-> 

-> 
-> The three network cards connected to the hub are assigned internal IP
-> addresses. I don't remember what is usually used, but I use 90.0.0.1, .2,
-> .3, etc.

One comment here. You should be using an "experimental" network per RFC
1597, not just any old network. There is a legal Class A network, one or
more legal Class B networks, and there are several legal Class C
networks. I don't recall offhand the legal class A network, but I don't
think it is 90.0.0.0. One of the legal class C networks is 192.168.1.0,
which is what I use.

Aside from the general niceness of complying with the traffic rules of the
Internet, there is another reason to use one of the experimental
networks. Suppose for a moment you used 15.0.0.0, which happens also to be
HP's Class A network. Packets from your network addressed to any of HP's
machines would never leave your network. This would make it difficult for
you to send email to someone at HP.

It would also leave you open to violating a fundamental rule of the
Internet: no two machines may ever have the same IP address. Violating
this rule will 1) have one or more sysadmins elsewhere on the net very
annoyed at you, and 2) give both you and those sysadmins fits trying to
diagnose various mysterious problems.

Eric: I'm not trying to publicly toast you, I just want to make it clear
for other folks' benefit.

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Re: [expert] IP Masquerading, The ABCs of

2000-04-17 Thread Charles Curley

On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 05:13:38PM -0400, Stephen F. Bosch wrote:
-> "Eric L. Brine" wrote:
-> > 
-> > > Even if masquerading works in this situation, you STILL have packets
-> > > with 192.168.0 headers going out onto the local subnet, and if your ISP
-> > > notices this, you're going to get your wrists slapped.
-> > 
-> > I don't believe that's the problem. The problems are security/privacy and
-> > bandwidth usage.
-> 
-> Ultimately the ISP has to block these packets at their routers, or they
-> get into trouble, so it's not a huge problem -- but all you need is for
-> two people on the same subnet to make the same mistake, and you've got
-> trouble.

No, read the extract from the RFC elsewhere in this thread. If the ISP
sees any packets addressed on the private network, then the RFC has been
violated.

->  
-> > Security: The ISP and possibly other clients can see your internal
-> > packets, and possibly even gain access to your private network.
-> 
-> Exactly.

Agreed. And that is both a necessary and sufficient reason to multi-home
the firewall and keep the private net traffic off the ISP's net.



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Re: [expert] Unzipping a file

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Corbeil

Brian T. Schellenberger wrote:

> Mike Corbeil wrote:
> >
> > Brian T. Schellenberger wrote:
> >
> > > In the vain hope of forestalling a number of "you moron" followups, I
> > > will point out that I saw the recent posting explaining that there's a
> > > "y" option that does exactly this.  In my defense, it's not in the "man"
> > > page.
> >
> > man or documentation page bug.
> >
> > y option for what?  I just checked the man pages for tar and bzip2 and also
> > didn't see any mention of a y option.
>
> Yes, exactly.
>
> tar xvyf foo.tar.bz2
>
> extracts and unzips in a single step.
>
> Cool, eh?  Undocumented, alas.

I found some documentation yesterday which gave such examples and I believe that was
in the LDP web site.  This means that it's documented, except not locally.  However,
people can mirror the LDP, or download it, or  copy it, to have it accessible
locally, instead of always needing to hook  up to the internet to get to the LDP.

Wasn't sure how much I'ld use the documentation, but copied it to my local /usr/doc
directory, organized the documentation by categorizing into directories to speed up
searches, and it's been useful.  Now, I just bring up kfm, as long as I'm using kde,
and browse, locally.

The only potential problem with that is needing to check once in a while to see if
documentation has been added or changed, but most of the documentation is dated,
which helps to make the checking fairly quick to do.

I agree that it's quicker to use the extra  option  with tar, and that it may be
more useful the way you described.  I just haven't had the need to bother, and also
wonder if the  option is also available with tar on Unix, like Sun, ...  One can
always try and if it doesn't work, then read the man  page, but what if it works,
but does something different?  Am not sure and I don't have a Unix system available
to check.  Just some thoughts; although, I don't think they'ld change the meaning or
effect of an option for a Unix command, for this reason.

The other aspect of copying the LDP and such documentation locally is (besides
making sure not to infringe upon copyrights) creating a script or tool to provide
one fairly consistent user interface and which searches man pages, info, and all
other local documentation files, to locate documentation.  This would create one
integrated documentation search  and display user interface, albeit the various
types of documentation would  be presented according to what ever tool or type of
tool is otherwise used to view the documentation when it's accessed more directly,
or directly.  I have most of such a script already completed, but presently have
higher priorities and need to create a gui front end, before this tool is finished.
Also, maybe there already is such a tool, but I'm not aware of one; therefore, this
tool is agenda'd, among other things which are also deferred due to higher or more
urgent priorities.

Without a tool like this, a user must  try man, info, and if these fail, then bring
up a browser, or use rgrep, to search through the many HOWTOs, FAQs, and other
copied documentation.  One integrated u.i. seems like a nicer approach.  Then,
whether  people copy documentation from the internet or not, is up to each to
choose.

Documentation is definitely nice to have, especially up to date documentation, and
free documentation puts icing on the cake.

mike







Re: [expert] Apache 1.3.12.tar.gz so what next

2000-04-17 Thread Orlando Lewis


Thanks,

I heard that there are some security concerns with the Frontpage extensions.
Does anyone know what they are and if so, have they been fixed?


>
>Go to http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3, you will find
>Apache 1.3.12 fully optimized with the SGI patches, as well as the new
>php3 and mod_perl.
>
>Jean-Michel Dault
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>
>
>On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Orlando Lewis wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:04:31 -0400
>> From: Orlando Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [expert] Apache 1.3.12.tar.gz so what next
>>
>> I just compiled & installed Apache 1.3.12 on my MDK 6.1 system using the
tar.gz.  What do I need to configure to optimize the server?  I know that
there are a bunch additional modules or add-ons that can be downloaded and
installed to enhance it's capabilities.  What do you recommend to increase
Apache's performance and security?  I know that with MDK 6.1 it has some
options that are compiled in the apache-1.3.9-7mdk.i586.rpm.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>




Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Corbeil

Stephen F. Bosch wrote:

> Matt Stegman wrote:
>
> > No, startx does not start kdm.  startx will start X, and load kde by
> > default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to
> > change this.
>
> Qué? In Mandrake, startx gives you kdm.
>
> -Stephen-

The relationship is indirect.  startx will give you what ever it's  been
instructed to give you.  One or the principal file for this is
$HOME/.Xclients, or ~/.Xclients (~/ = $HOME/).

mike





Re: [expert] Mandrake sub-optimized for i686?

2000-04-17 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

Linda Walsh wrote:
> 
> Found this interesting bit of trivia in the glibc library source:
> 
> i686> more Implies
> # Due to the reordering and the oher nifty extensions in the i686 it is
> # not really good to use heavily i586 optimized code on a i686.  It's
> # better to use i486/i386 code.
> 
> Under i786 I found the comment that the Pentium II core was almost the
> same as the Pentium Pro.  Maybe Mandrake should optimize for i686, else
> it means for anyone with a Pentium-Pro or higher is probably better off
> running on a 386/486 based distro.  :-(

But can't you compile from Mandrake kernel source and set the CPU type
at i686/PPro? That's what I did...

-Stephen-



Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

Matt Stegman wrote:
 
> No, startx does not start kdm.  startx will start X, and load kde by
> default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to
> change this.

Qué? In Mandrake, startx gives you kdm.

-Stephen-



Re: [expert] setting eth1 to 10mb

2000-04-17 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

"Ronald J. Yacketta" wrote:
> 
> its an non-routed ip weather I use a class A/B/C does not matter :) as long
> as it works

It's not working, is it?

Class A networks are not worth the misery they inevitably cause.

> I could use the Class C non-routed but heck 10.100.100.??? is faster and
> easier to remeber *snicker*

I'll give you that, I suppose

-Stephen-



Re: [expert] CD-RW UDF?

2000-04-17 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger


I have been very happy with scdbackup, FWIW.

vern wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I just spent the afternoon hunting up all the infos,
> HOWTO's and man pages that weren't  installed
> on my initial installation.  Spent quite a time with
> the CDROM,CD-R HOWTO's.  That left me with
> another question or two.  I can read CD's CD-R's,
> but no CD-RW's does that mean that they are
> automatically in the UDF format??  Or are they
> merely not finished tracks?  My ultimate goal is
> to use the CD-RW as a big floppy to archive
> data to.  I hope "dump" and "restore" will use
> the CD-RW someday, if I can figure out all the
> ins and outs.
> Thanks for any help!
> Vern
> 
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